psyker-class

[fringe garden]

I can handle 3 or 4 crushers with just the push attack poke and a little dodging without much issue

The special attack can be useful, but the stars have to align

[small fable]

I wish there were more people like you in the queues 🙏

[broken carbon]

do you want a melee psyker build?

[small fable]

I'm seeing people going up against a crusher

[broken carbon]

are you playing normal board? or auric?

[small fable]

Dodging early and then tanking the hit

[small fable]

I've done both, seen so much stupid people

[acoustic swallow]

average darktide experience

[broken carbon]

eh pubs are stupid in general

[small fable]

I mean, no offense, I was also bad at some point

[broken carbon]

no i mean full offense

[blissful solar]

we were all babies once

[broken carbon]

ur average player is not great

[small fable]

But at some point you gotta learn how to dodge and deal with the big bads 😭

[upper sun]

not me im still bad

[blissful solar]

babies probably cant even use a keyboard. those fuggin noobs

[acoustic swallow]

into the corpsestarch they go

[small fable]

I still see people in auric mael getting done in by poxbusters

And I don't mean in cases where there are overwhelming amounts of enemies

Just randomly in an open space

[blissful solar]

some people struggle to turn around sadly

[jovial juniper]

Yeah, pick smite so you have access to Malefic Momentum and Psy Aura and never use smite

[analog agate]

Controller players

[small fable]

They just want a hug...

[blissful solar]

i think controller players basically have no choice but to play at high camera sensitivity because if they dont they cant turn around well

not that i'd know, im not one of those

[analog agate]

Can ask @marble crater Do you play with high sens?

[small fable]

I've done some experimenting and I'm quite liking one I made with Warp Siphon

[broken carbon]

ur missing out on a ton of damage then

[small fable]

I know DD is most probably the best option against single targets

[broken carbon]

warp siphon stinky

[broken carbon]

it’s best for any melee build

[small fable]

Really?

Isn't it RNG with the marks?

[broken carbon]

the damage you get from DD is more than warp siphon

[broken carbon]

technically yes, but any enemy aside from poxwalkers, groaners, specials, and ogryns can be marked

and enemies get marked very quickly

[marble crater]

Not really, I can check where mine is at in a bit.
I'm not young enough for high sens anymore

[analog agate]

Congrats on the red. You can now post images

[broken carbon]

complaints with DD marking are mostly from old DD, post rework it’s so much better

[small fable]

It says they have a "chance" to be marked but it doesn't specify so I assumed it would be a bit more rare

[broken carbon]

no it’s like instant

[small fable]

I'll defo try it out then

[analog agate]

We were just wondering how easy it is for you to 180 to push a poxburster

[small fable]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/989908333643333682/1332426222952513650/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2025.01.24_-_21.05.37.01.mp4?ex=6795361e&is=6793e49e&hm=7e984692baea168eb82c400b26aa34793ce6191cf1804968c5bc888fadcd24ca&

Yippie!

[analog agate]

Unfortunately, my work internet sucks and I can’t view videos 😕

[small fable]

That's so fair

[acoustic swallow]

BRO IS CALLED LUIGI :DDD

[small fable]

I had a workplace where internet was like 5 Mbps

[small fable]

My friend has an Ogryn named Mario

We tried to convince a third into making Princess Peach...

[deft stump]

That's just motion sickness the game though.

[analog agate]

The VA used to have baller wifi/ethernet hook up. I was watching 1080p YouTube videos. And now… I can maybe get 144-360p going

[blissful solar]

and never hitting precise shots again-itis

[broken carbon]

my SG DD build

either run with a gun of choice or voidstrike staff

[deft stump]

Why do you think i like the EK at times.

Strike is fun, but EK doesn't need aiming.

[broken carbon]

you can swap flak to unyielding i believe

i can’t be certain

i don’t remember which perks i have on my GS rn

i’ll check when i’m home though

[analog agate]

Fgs doesn’t need flak in regular

So yeah, can go to unyielding

[broken carbon]

yeah then it might be cara unyielding

[deft stump]

Also, Gremlin vet just throws frags anyway.

[small fable]

I don't think anything flak armored can survive a hit anyway

So yeah defo switch that out

[broken carbon]

it probably is cara unyielding

[analog agate]

I haven’t tested out the fgs on DD side since release. I don’t think it can 1 shot hs a bruiser unbuffed on my EK build. I have to test it again when I get home

So… maybe flak does matter. I now am doubting myself

Then again, you are almost never unbuffed in gameplay

[marble crater]

Pretty easy, imo. Even without really high sensitivity. I'm on 3/10
Usually a little higher sensitivity wouldn't be much of a problem, controller gets aim assist and magnetism to help with the aiming, but the problem, that I found, is that darktide has simply way too many enemies, so your aim gets dragged around against your will very frequently. So I turned those things down and it's better.
I wonder how many players on console are worse because the default settings are simply bad

[deft stump]

You want the light ver of it.

Not full.

[marble crater]

Yep, full is awful

[blissful solar]

[deft stump]

It's only there if you use the press A to try and dodge and hope you don't jump thing.

Cos you can't aim when trying to dodge then.

[marble crater]

That's another thing, for how important dodging is, why the hell is it on A/X by default and the same button as jump?
Absolutely awful

[deft stump]

You can't even change it in VT2.

Nobody believed me when I said I literally cannot dodge.

[marble crater]

I could, but only because of the software my controller came with

[deft stump]

Because in VT2, if you lag too much, dodging and jumping is ALSO delayed.

Like, you press A, 0.6 secs later, your char starts to jump.

Might be longer.

[marble crater]

Ew

[deft stump]

And now you are gambling between dodging and jumping.

FUN.

[analog agate]

I did scuf/elite and can’t go back to regular controllers

[deft stump]

If I had $500 to spend on a controller every month, I would have upgraded my PC already.

[marble crater]

Gamesir controller

[clear heath]

waiting for the g7 pro to release in spring

[deft stump]

Need more paddles.

[marble crater]

[blissful solar]

i got an 8bitdo ultimate for 60 dollars after tax and i swear it's just as good if not better than my $200 xbox elite. only downside is that it has 2 buttons on the very back instead of 4

which, by the way, my xbox elite controller fucking broke for some reason

or at least it doesnt press a single button properly/consistently so it's basically useless

[clear heath]

currently using an xbox controller that i added back buttons to with an extremerate kit

oh and added hair triggers to it too

[deft stump]

T4 Kaleid.

They no longer sell it though.

[blissful solar]

i swear if a controller is transparent it's about to be the biggest piece of shit or the best thing ever made

[deft stump]

ALL the 'cheat' features MS said no to gone.

[analog agate]

I have heard 8bit is really good. I got a flydigi but will have to mod it with paddles. I can’t do buttons on the back

[deft stump]

Hair trigger is the best thing.

[marble crater]

They are infamous for breaking, shame for that price. That's why I bought a Gamesir G7 SE and I'm very happy with it. Stick drift who?

[deft stump]

Why the $500 a month joke.

[sudden willow]

kinky

[clear heath]

I had an Xbox elite 1 for a very long time
The rubber grips started peeling after a year

i tried elite 2 but the A button was inconsistent
I returned it twice

[deft stump]

Go back to Zealot mains.

[sudden willow]

some of those like off brand weird gamecube/ps2 era controllers

[analog agate]

My elite is still going strong 3 years later. Scuf ps5 pro strong after 2 years

[blissful solar]

yep

[deft stump]

Eh, it's gaudy looking, but it performs better than the normal Xbox controller.

[dapper garden]

hey guys what mod lets me have more laodouts?

[sudden willow]

[clear heath]

I had this issue with the elite 2 where pressing A at some angles just didn't register the input so i gave up on it

[deft stump]

Only complain is that it's smaller.

[marble crater]

You must be one of the lucky ones

[deft stump]

I like bigger mouses and controllers.

[blissful solar]

"more characters and loadouts"

[deft stump]

Leprechaun maybe. Xbox X/S controllers kill themselves in like a month for me.

[clear heath]

tbf my elite 1 went through a lot of use before it started having issues.
probably went through 3000 hours of gaming with it

[deft stump]

Massive stick drift.

[patent mango]

emulate stick drift on keyboard by just spazzing out randomly

[marble crater]

Hall effect sticks or I'm not buying it anymore

[clear heath]

controller companies have been slacking for so long.
I'm glad hall effect stuff is starting to get more mainstream in the 3rd party space

maybe soon we'll get first party hall effect and it will truly be a mainstream feature

[marble crater]

[deft stump]

More like, press WASD in any random order and hold it all the time.

You'll auto walk yourself off edges and such.

[patent mango]

dont even have to do that manually thank god

[deft stump]

Naw, PROFITZ. Potentiometers are way cheaper.

[steel flame]

aight here is my finished Zazy Special FGS melee build in all its glory

[deft stump]

And if it breaks, you can buy another at $90.

[maiden oracle]

I don’t know you well enough to go off on your ass so I’m just gonna say that’s a cool build

Very interesting very innovative

[steel flame]

it fucks so hard

[maiden oracle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/618168220116975718/808374064585769020/cat_gets_splash_stupid_idot2.gif

[vernal frost]

would probably hit a mil with a proper melee build

[steel flame]

i just need to not blow myself up with warp slashes by accident

[jovial juniper]

No keystone is wild

[steel flame]

ikr?

only thing it cant really delete is bosses but im too stubborn to put laspistol on this one

so thats only reason the fire staff is there, to toast bosses

[dapper garden]

thanks, thos isnt working for me T_T

[lone wing]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/509583225576882189/1009743472330276874/image0.gif

[steel flame]

the warp slash is actually just so crazy, its ability to infinitely cleave and stagger everything thats not a ogyrn is insane

it doesnt even need to kill shit every time, i can just cock block every gunner on the map at the same time im killing a horde cause the constant warp slashs stun lock them even through cover

it even launches poxbursters

but the best part is is doesnt knock specials or gunners down just stuns them so they turn into easy targets for the ranged party memebers

[patent mango]

so called shotgunner death squads when i press the funny shotgunner deletion button

[fringe garden]

lol, gotta love seeing people falling in love with the FGS

It truly is a great weapon. I mean, it's not overwhelmingly good, but it's so versatile and strong. Mobility being it's big weakness does suck, but it's nothing talent can't compensate for

[patent mango]

i'd rate ds like a 5/10 force swords a 6,5/10 or 7/10 and fgs 9/10 tbh

i have very few complaints with fgs

[fringe garden]

I just love it

It is love, it is life. I knew the moment we saw that first gif that you spammed all over the discord for a few days

[patent mango]

funnuy gif

[fringe garden]

The first time we saw the warp slash and we all collectively filled an ocean with drool

[patent mango]

there were so many ways they coulda fricked warp slash up

but they made it so jolly

[patent mango]

worst case it'd have been warp slash spam never using the melee part

[deft stump]

Free Evis from 4 target only.

[patent mango]

make evis 3 targets

[deft stump]

[patent mango]

i checked evis and its not really gs sized

so its truly not a heavy evis

[deft stump]

I told you it was bastardsword sized.

[cerulean pollen]

Does Zealot flamethrower have any advantages over flamethrower staff?

[jovial juniper]

Higher damage but at the cost of ammo

[cerulean pollen]

I see. Im just not a fan of the reload 😐

[fringe garden]

Gotta pay the piper one way or the other

quelling and charging the staff takes time

I do think flamethrower is a little redundant for the zealot, though. They need something to help them engage at range more than a horde clear weapon like the thrower

[weary crane]

It has higher dmg and range but everything else is better on purga

Stagger, equip time, quell cancelling, suppression, synergy with talents, blaze away is better on purga

And ofc no ammo consumption which is huge on havoc

[marble crater]

Higher range

Psyker > zealot, once again

[vernal temple]

~12,000 enemies till 1 mil
89 bulwarks till 1,500
72 reapers till 1,000

if what order do you think I'll get these penances done?

[blissful solar]

bulwark, reaper, enemies. unless you dont do any brute missions, then it's probably bulwark, enemies, reaper

[jovial juniper]

The average damnation is like 2000 enemies killed according to the whatever at the end of the mission

So you're 6 games away from the 1mil

[blissful solar]

the kills are...shared?

cuz getting 2k kills individually is a gigachad attainment iirc

[jovial juniper]

Hmmm
Now that's a good question

[deft stump]

Are you thinking they are going solo?

[vernal temple]

I'm mostly doing the ogryn event missions or if the modifiers are shit (like vent purge or lights out) I stick to hi-shock aurics

[jovial juniper]

Nope

If the penances track only your kills

[vernal temple]

they're not

[jovial juniper]

Then you have more than 6 games

[deft stump]

Cos I'm pretty sure they aren't shared,

[jovial juniper]

[buoyant maple]

No, the penance tracks personal kills

[blissful solar]

i think a good kill count is like 500+, usually less than 800

[vernal temple]

Purge the Heretic only counts your own kills, not the shared ones

[buoyant maple]

U actually need to personally kill 12,000

[jovial juniper]

So I guess the ogryn ones are going first

[marble crater]

No way will he get the reaper and bulwark penances before the 1 million

[jovial juniper]

Unless we assume that from those 2000 everyone would kill at least 500

Hmmmm

[blissful solar]

12000 kills is like 20 games (600 kills per game), with the brute modifier he could probably do the ogryns first. might be really close tbh

well let's be honest with the brute modifiers he could easily kill like 15+ bulwarks per game

probably like 5 reapers minimally

[vernal temple]

well I'm a trauma bubble build

[blissful solar]

well then

[vernal temple]

rending trauma

[jovial juniper]

You get like 3-4 (?) waves of ogryns with the event

[marble crater]

But they also count towards the million and not every 11th or 12th enemy he kills will be a reaper or bulwark, not going to happen

Oh nevermind

I read that as 89/1500

[blissful solar]

lol yeah nah, just 89 left

[marble crater]

Yeah okay, then the ogryns first yes

[jovial juniper]

Kuli did not update his mutator guide to include brutes yet huh

Sad

[blissful solar]

someone should make a powerDI analysis tool and we get like dozens of us to send in all our games and then we can analyze it and know THE TRUTH

[marble crater]

I blame the game I just had, I turned up my sensitivity and also switched my sticks to raw input which also increases sensitivity. Shit was wild

[deft stump]

Raw. Lul.

[marble crater]

What?

[blissful solar]

raw input is usually always better

at least that's what my gamer brain thinks

[sudden willow]

I'm biting my tongue so bad right now...

[deft stump]

You duh goofed lul. Raw usually means you need to adjust the ingame sensitivity to compensate, not straight increase lul.

[muted grove]

@marble crater whats your fav build? ** replied to the wrong message a min ago

[marble crater]

Well yeah, it was awful. I double increased my sensitivity and couldn't hit shit turned regular sensitivity back down again

[tepid python]

how do scrier assail builds look

[deft stump]

Thus, I lul at you for it.

[marble crater]

For psyker my two favorites are Blaze Voidblast and EK, hang on

The only difference is that for EK I use the 4% chance for warp charges and use an illisi instead of the DS4 with Voidblast

[muted grove]

Oh hell yeah

I haven’t tried that yet

[marble crater]

Like this maybe? I don't really play sciers. But someone will pick apart the build now and you will get your answer

[deft stump]

I remember why they readded raw. it used to run with it but some games hated it.

Even at max sens, you either gets flung around or... slug movement.

[marble crater]

Darktide doesn't hate it

[deft stump]

Crime Boss used to.

Dunno now.

Cos I updated the controller after awhile and it played fine/better after. ppl hated the update so... Another update to add raw.

[jovial juniper]

Here's the funny part
Because of Warp Splitting you don't really need Ethereal Shards

So that point could go for

Crack if you melee a lot

Or worse, another Scriers mod

[marble crater]

Crack it is

[deft stump]

Have both, toss into hordes, giggle.

[jovial juniper]

It's only real giggle if you double down and get EP

Or in this case

Triple down

[deft stump]

Ehm, Should I boot the game just for a giggle pic?

Or I'll just remake it in you know.

Can go soulstealer or Empathic evasion.

[broken carbon]

frown

[deft stump]

I already stared.

[broken carbon]

twice the range, combo of blaze away and overpressure for more raw damage

[marble crater]

Why BM?

[vagrant onyx]

What in tarnation are these builds

[deft stump]

Half asleep throwing too much dook, yes.

To be fair, it originally had bubble, so heh.

[marble crater]

Except for one or two talents they are regular builds

[deft stump]

I mean, can totally just switch it to soulstealer or empathic evasion.

Or psychic leeching.

XD

[vagrant onyx]

The strength of 2 points though 👀

[deft stump]

Wat? You really want me to take that 5% ranged damage boost?

[tepid python]

🤔 so "by crack of bone," i also dipped all of scrier but "reality anchor"

[deft stump]

That better? I'll fix it when I get back on. The eepy throw funny things build, yes.

[proper osprey]

The carry

[deft stump]

Nu,

[marble crater]

Yes better

[proper osprey]

Havoc solo build

[deft stump]

Now to think of which staff to drag along, heh.

[deft stump]

1-10, funny enough, it is.

[marble crater]

All of them would work

[deft stump]

EK and Strike will make you commit DS5 though.

[stark crown]

This shit with KF will never not be funny

wrong clip

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/jyABFirqwgWNOTcQV?invite=cr-MSxwblIsMTA3NDAxNTczLA

this one

[prime elk]

yeah honestly KF is a lot of fun

haven't had it pop a burster yet, but that might be funny too

[marble crater]

It is funny, for you. Not the person standing too close

[prime elk]

well KF popping bursters is a real risk to the KF user usually

like when you're pushing it or something

[marble crater]

No, only pushing is never a risk, push attacking is the risk

[prime elk]

yes yes thank you for correction captain nuance

[marble crater]

It's an important difference

[prime elk]

sorry i'm not on top of my DT terminology 100% of the time 24/7

i'll report to the nearest commisar for summary execution

[thorn cedar]

good

[marble crater]

[deft stump]

For the force push. Roll to not die.

[inland ice]

I have never set off a poxburster like that before 💀

and i always run kf

[vernal temple]

not so funny if that happens when pushing away a poxburster that's in your face

[stark crown]

https://tenor.com/view/the-friend-who-like-anything-gif-17239045688991704977

[vernal temple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1270659857795776585/JMYS0W5RDOL7U41RPH-1.gif

I stole this from Zealot chat

[near gale]

sounds about right

[patent mango]

who pringled me

[near gale]

https://tenor.com/view/pringles-potato-chips-can-of-pringles-chips-pringles-chips-gif-12791516684474364273

[vernal temple]

https://tenor.com/view/low-intelligence-specimen-aarav-cat-gato-not-perro-gif-25462194

[patent mango]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/991176836874776629/1155196801645813892/caption.gif

[near gale]

https://tenor.com/view/plague-ogryn-ogryn-reaction-live-reaction-plague-ogryn-live-reaction-gif-1395788199602766548

[vernal temple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/721815815422476411/855069207674093588/image0-1.gif

now I'm hungry

[patent mango]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/958418404769943572/1102446680302956564/unknown.gif

[muted grove]

is there a link explaning a little more on how this should work? i havent tried this before 😮

[marble crater]

Which version of it, voidblast or EK?

[muted grove]

Vb

[marble crater]

You voidblast everything, for lone crushers you can use your DS4, mutants also DS4 to the head, Brain Burst for specials and snipers or gunners you can't hit with lmb for some reason. Shriek when you have at least 85% peril.
You can use shriek very liberally really, mostly damage but also to stagger or save your team from dogs, or something. No reason to save it

If you get surrounded in melee, spam voidblast at your feet

[jovial juniper]

Big mustache

[marble crater]

Knock over all the maulers, crushers, bulwarks, ragers, spam shriek, win

[muted grove]

Don’t bother trying to make crushers fall over?

Is it just that ds4 can kill them that quickly?

Lmfao nvm I see your next msg

[marble crater]

If there are multiple crushers then knock them over, if just one then DS4 would be quicker

[muted grove]

Thank you very much that’s exactly the kind of advice I was looking for, voidblast is so much more fun than I thought it would be

Are there suggested blessings that are considered best for voidblast?

[marble crater]

For this build Blazing Spirit, Nexus and Flak, Crit Chance as perks

Uncanny, Riposte, Maniac and Carapace for the Dueling Sword

[prime elk]

just be careful about using trauma on stuff that the zealot is already killing

same with bursters and barrels

you don't want to be the guy setting them off in your teammate's face

[analog agate]

Funny thing about VB staff. I actually have to hold back (being patient) and just try and cover backs or small stragglers. I get annoyed waiting for melee having to kill a horde. Gotta practice meditation

[marble crater]

Nah, just kill everything

[strong gulch]

If the team is just waiting to clear the horde and no one needs to refill toughness, I'm blasting that horde.

[marble crater]

Nobody needs to worry about toughness if everything is dead. Simple as.

[analog agate]

It’s just funny. You always hear “don’t blast at zealots/ogryns feet”… and yet. I just want to kill the horde and move on

I can just be a dick I guess

[marble crater]

That's why I blast in front of their feet

[prime elk]

I don't rez psykers that do that when I'm playing zealot

[marble crater]

[analog agate]

No point in rezzing if everything is dead

[prime elk]

trust me, the staffker will find some way to go down anyway

usually after they've set off a barrel or burster against me though

[analog agate]

Well, I’m just talking about me. Not collectively psykers

[prime elk]

well if you know what you're doing then i don't care

[strong gulch]

I will say tho, I try to not always blast every crusher and rager. If it turns out that my team can actually fight them, then I focus on some of them.

It's like a trust fall. lmao

[prime elk]

if i see a crusher/rager horde, i'm def blasting them lol

if it's just one or two, the team can prob handle it

any more than that, nah, i'm not betting

[strong gulch]

That's IF a team can handle them.

[prime elk]

that IF is doing a lot of work

[strong gulch]

If one crusher is bullying my teammates, then all gets blasted.

[analog agate]

Crushers are 50/50 in me putting them down. I always do on ragers. People just suck at fighting them

[strong gulch]

It's happens.

[prime elk]

yeah and ragers inevitably end up coming after me

so i'd rather just stop that from happening

[paper dust]

blud was down then complain that we are still alive and or not rez him immediatly

[weary crane]

Psykers are swishy balls to crushers

[analog agate]

I bet that dude rushes to rez people all the time. And then dies in front of them

[hearty wolf]

I haven't played darktide in a long time

Am I missing out

[fiery stratus]

yes

[strong gulch]

ogryn event

[hearty wolf]

Not the ogryn event 😭

[weary crane]

If they fix all the bugs and the shitty servers then i would say the game is near perfect

[strong gulch]

I haven't played in a couple days.

[analog agate]

Ogryn event needs more melee ogryns

[weary crane]

[hearty wolf]

Need to play Vermintide too

[weary crane]

Missing out on the shitty ogryn event

[analog agate]

Its meh for sure

[patent mango]

500 billion power supply interruptions

[weary crane]

Better than fog imo

[analog agate]

I always like no lights

[patent mango]

kill 6 billion ogryns

[paper dust]

i went to heal in the medicae

blud couldnt wait

[fiery stratus]

noo you gotta do it

gotta get that fraammee

[paper dust]

prob mad about us not rezing him

in a sniper open area

with 3or so sniper

idk why he was out there

but he was out ther

[fiery stratus]

because hes clueless and thinks he knows more than he does about the game

[weary crane]

People get mad at everything

[paper dust]

also i ran off the cliff by mistake

[fiery stratus]

[weary crane]

I hit a fatty clutch with quell cancel purga, and this russian dude got MAD saying i was cheating

[paper dust]

that one fence was not there

[fiery stratus]

bros madcuzbad

[paper dust]

handrail

[weary crane]

Devs putting a random ass gap in the handrails:

[hearty wolf]

@strong gulch I need to do my weekly havoc

we do?

[strong gulch]

Ok. Heads up, I'm feeling a bit off but should be ok tp play.

@fiery stratus Let's do it.

[hearty wolf]

@nocturne dust ^

[fiery stratus]

[nocturne dust]

wat

[fiery stratus]

[hearty wolf]

hovok

[strong gulch]

Havoc for the week

[nocturne dust]

sure

[hearty wolf]

Clandestium Rolling Steel

[fiery stratus]

https://discord.gg/zSEBwtPe

[sturdy reef]

I want the Ogrynpocalypse on rolling steel

[fiery stratus]

rite

[sturdy reef]

Max voidblast value

[modest patrol]

Played chasm logistratum with the ogryn modifier earlier and it was a wild ride

[muted grove]

is voidblast the weird staff whose dump state isnt WR?

or is that voidstrike

[analog agate]

Strike

[hearty wolf]

Not the havoc throw 😭

[strong gulch]

We're washed.

[hearty wolf]

I mean that was me at the end

I was just running around having a fun trip

[nocturne dust]

I would've been fine if the game didn't lag me

[hearty wolf]

Then a trapper hid behind a crusher and I was unable to dodge

[nocturne dust]

this is the 2nd time I've been shotgunned the moment I lag at the end of Dark Communion

[hearty wolf]

I thought I could 1 bonk the vats but ig not? Might not have had enough thrust stacks

[patent mango]

epic darktide moments

[deft stump]

I'm just gonna go nap and hope I can still get H40 done before the week ends or something.

[nocturne dust]

nope

[hearty wolf]

is ok

I accept that I trolled

[nocturne dust]

they have a minimum hit requirement or something

[hearty wolf]

ic

That makes sense

[deft stump]

I wonder if it's like captain shield.

[nocturne dust]

(I'm guessing, I don't actually know, I've just never seen them one-shot and they always seem to require about the same amount of hits)

[hearty wolf]

Will have to test at some point

[near gale]

I think I've killed them in 2 hits before, but, that might have been on malice or heresy

[hearty wolf]

Either way turns out that area in between all of the vats is pretty spooky

[patent mango]

vat dmg meta 🔥

[hearty wolf]

Think the ping might have rekt me on the trapper dodge

[patent mango]

grabs still have terrible netcode

[near gale]

Oh wait you mean the things not the cultists

[hearty wolf]

I'm surprised I was basically top damage on that since it was m21st

[near gale]

Some things do more damage to them, I think

[hearty wolf]

Boss feed is good

[patent mango]

dodging poxhounds is basically on easy mode whenever my ping is low

[hearty wolf]

ye I can 1 shot the cultists easily

[near gale]

meanwhile at 200 ping:

[patent mango]

200 ping i only push

dodging is not viable

[deft stump]

When you go from 260-380 ping to 10 ping...

[near gale]

hell even pushing isn't fully viable at that point lol

[deft stump]

You drop 100kg weights.

[patent mango]

it seems to work 4 me idk

[near gale]

Muties go through you sometimes lol

[near gale]

20-50 ping tho? Grabbed like you should be. 200+ ping? Muties run through you like you're not even there and muties that are 5m to the right or left always grab you

[nocturne dust]

Yeeeaaaahhh, I would've waited for bubble

[hearty wolf]

rescue speed curio needed

[hearty wolf]

There was 2 crushers behind that which could have been an issue anyway

[blissful solar]

the vats get clobbered by boltgun

[prime elk]

oof

[hearty wolf]

really with all the ammo we should have had, should have just stayed on that rescue point and shot them to deth

[prime elk]

brutal

[strong gulch]

It doesn't work on rescue lmao

[deft stump]

Normal. That was my EU ping. Throw in random packet loss.

[near gale]

Same for an achlys twin linked stubber

[nocturne dust]

Just dodge

[hearty wolf]

that's why i said rescue speed and not revive

[hearty wolf]

while reviving

[near gale]

I've killed all 3 vats before with the achlys stubber lol

[strong gulch]

So much time tho 😭

[near gale]

while my teammates were busy being downed

[nocturne dust]

Yep, you would've had to figure that out

[hearty wolf]

Didn't matter either way, wasn't the substantive problem

as soon as that third wall came down, I mentally tapped out

I was done with the run

activated all speed and went full bonk

Did a lil trolling

it's too easy if we're always together :/

[near gale]

I've seen the vats take omega damage before and almost no damage before on one of the more recent maps(not the one with the cultists)

I forgot the name of it

[deft stump]

Is why I think they are like capt shields.

[near gale]

Could easily be

The only time I use a ranged on that shield is when I have my gunlugger build and the achlys twin linked stubber

It's just better to melee it otherwise <.<

[deft stump]

Cos certain melees, the ones that shred shields, also shred them.

[near gale]

Well... and it takes more melee damage as well iirc

[patent mango]

john decay vs john warhammer

[patent mango]

epic havoc gameplay

[near gale]

as soon as I saw the shotgunners I knew lol

You're not surviving that without until death <_<'

[blissful solar]

havoc sows pain and depression in the populace

[near gale]

Makes me glad I don't play it, my 3 sisters struggle with depression... I don't need it, since I'm the only one of the 4 of us that doesn't <.<

[strong gulch]

ok now it's a gif

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1004447866250613048/1332525446268588082/Darktide_res_fail.gif

[near gale]

favorited

[patent mango]

powerful gifs to start your day with

[vernal temple]

I just saw some level 700+ psyker do something I haven't seen before. He was using the Deimos force sword and somehow kept spamming only the first thrusting attack over and over. How does one do that?

[verbal thistle]

macro

[vernal temple]

ah

[verbal thistle]

or alot of muscle memory and timing

[fathom adder]

There was also a mod, don't know if it still exists

[blissful solar]

just press 1 and 2 really quickly

over and over. and attack with the sword when it's the one that's out

almost any weapon can do it, though not all benefit

[vernal temple]

I mean yeah that kinda works

[blissful solar]

deimos has a really good one cuz its L1 is a stab

[fathom adder]

Block canceling works fast too

[blissful solar]

yeah block canceling i think is easier but slower

[thorn cedar]

negative, its quell cancel

[vernal temple]

well trying it out in the psykhanium rn, just spamming lmb-rmb-lmb-rmb

pretty much the speed that psyker was going

so idk maybe that wasn't a macro

[fathom adder]

I messed around a little with QQ macros in VT2 but even when they worked perfectly in the keep they inevitably shit the bed in real games because weapon switch has always been fucked

[vernal temple]

learned something new today, nice

[deft stump]

I think if you aren't the host, ping just dooks it over.

[vernal temple]

after nearly 1400 hours lol

[strong gulch]

There's always something new to learn in this game.

I often feel like a noob becuase of "how did I know know this already"

[vernal temple]

speaking of feeling like a noob. I have to ask this. In order to push away a burster, when blocking with a force sword, is it enough to just light tap LMB or do I need to hold it down for the big push?

because I've never tried the light tapping

[thorn cedar]

just the first

[strong gulch]

Just the regular push is enough.

[stark crown]

Got a question cause im cooking up something mainly out of Curiosity

[strong gulch]

If you use KF, you can bust that burster on yourself because the PA does damage.

[stark crown]

Does Enhanced Psy effect Kinetic Flayer at all

[vernal temple]

so all this time I could have avoided going down/dying because brain rupture decides to kill the burster in my face from the 1 damage I've dealt by force pushing

[stark crown]

if it does proc that is obviously

[deft stump]

Yep.

[strong gulch]

yes

[stark crown]

Okay thats fucking hilarious

[deft stump]

Inf charges if you kill with it.

[vernal temple]

Figured that out the hard way

[stark crown]

I was thinking of doing an M2 Electro with KF and EP And seeing how that runs

[vernal temple]

rupture with EP is fun

[strong gulch]

You could fully commit and go purg/ inferno.

Or feck it single target only and take DS with ur electro

[stark crown]

I have a build like that I've hit the point of dumping so much time into the game im just making the most random ass builds and seeing if it sticks

[strong gulch]

assail trauma?

wait

[stark crown]

That sounds really fucking funny

LMAO

[strong gulch]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9dba7173-f64c-4b4f-9213-94268e99e856/no-keystone-fire-sword-now-with-crit-chance-its-bad-but-play-it-anyways

[stark crown]

Rending Trauma with a wee bit of Assail

I kid you not I threw this together cause its Electro with FGS but are abusing crit to bank on EE

Aka Warp and Shred

[stark crown]

I have no clue why the image didn't update

but I realized there's 0 point in doing 3 if im not really banking on using BR more

Actually shit now im reconsidering which one would be better-

Cause both 3 and the Blitz gives everyone toughness would be good in general

[strong gulch]

Purloin is poopoo unless ur doing memes.

3 EP stacks is really meaningful on BB unless memes again

[deft stump]

3 stacks only needed if you need to manually use it for any reason lul.

[stark crown]

I realized the what might be better

[stark crown]

Something like this instead

Cause if im running a Staff for more aggressive play I probably should run Solid to be able to quell mid combat

Admittedly trying it in the vaccum that is Psykanium and im liking how its working so far

I'll relay how this shitpost works

Im not even going to question this

[brisk galleon]

In Fire Reborn, does it apply if the soulblaze isn't applied by myself?

[thorn cedar]

yes

[lone wing]

it applies to all sources of soulblaze

[wooden sand]

Why you spark heads awalys keep talking about talent trees and builds?

[pine shore]

probably because we actually have a talent tree and builds unlike ogryn

[wooden sand]

Ouchie

That hurted

[analog agate]

Whelp. Weapon swapping makes VB even better…

[thorn cedar]

it is known

[analog agate]

I always just quell canceled.

[muted grove]

Voidblast is fun but in the practice room it feels like it doesn’t do damage very well, does it just not do great damage and it’s main advantage is the CC?

[prime elk]

trauma does both, try using a blazing spirit build

[thorn cedar]

the damage is there, you just need the density to do it

like in the psyk you are just hitting a shotgunner

but in a live environment you're doing that to six of them and everything else in the circle

i generally top for damage except for a handful of other builds coming out on top

and itll still be close

[last sleet]

They still haven't removed this??

[patent jacinth]

Just made it easier

Its pretty accomplishable with an ogryn friend and a dedicated BB setup ala double walls kinetic resonance red stim

[last sleet]

I just don't like that it's a "no, do this mostly solo" thing in a teamgame. And now with it being a private game thing it's double annoying if you don't have friends. :D

[patent jacinth]

The private game thing is intended to exist so people don't grief games trying to do certain penances

[strong gulch]

When it was 90%, I get it "needing" a private game.

But at 50% you can just do that organically.

[last sleet]

Yeah, old penances for psyker had a lot of them be basically griefing. Like "explode into enemies".

[hardy delta]

why would they

[strong gulch]

That's still one of them, but you only have to kill 1 elite that way now.

[hardy delta]

just say "yo guys help"

in the game

[strong gulch]

A lot of people ignore that or grief the person trying to do the penance tho.

[prime elk]

forcing people to get into premades is just a terrible fucking design decision

[hardy delta]

and? try another pub game or look for group here

obviously

[strong gulch]

A lot of people also didn't say that they are going for a funny penance and ended up griefing the mission.

[eager token]

im gonna miss this event and magdumping bolters into groups of ogryns

[strong gulch]

Not everyone is in this discord and someone recently had an issue with EVERY game people fecked with the penance.

[prime elk]

nah you should be forced to go into speed dating sessions to assemble a premade to complete [insert game task or mission here]

[hardy delta]

so?

[crude cape]

just got crushed meleeing a group of crushers with the force greatsword, man, dodges just fail me sometimes on it im too used to knife ds lmao trying to branch out on psyker

almost had a clutch

[hardy delta]

and what are the other options?

clown emogee

[strong gulch]

It was affecting user experience is all. WTF you want from me.

[prime elk]

fix the game potato

[hardy delta]

other options

[strong gulch]

I'm not a dev

[hardy delta]

i had to ask for a help for the flesh wound in this server

somebody helped me

im happy

[strong gulch]

ok cool

[torn kernel]

Flesh wound is honestly doable in pubs nowadays

[last sleet]

The problem is: penances seem to be designed like they encourage you to play a class a certain way. But some of them just encourage you to play wrong. Like how this might might encourage someone to not kill an elite/special because they want to get 4 in a row.

[hardy delta]

so why are you arguing with me

[torn kernel]

Holy rev go brr

[strong gulch]

Am I?

by asking what you want from me?

k

bye love

[hardy delta]

this is arguing, buddy

ffs...

internet people are unbearable

you arent even real

[strong gulch]

love u

[prime elk]

honestly i just couldn't be arsed to do braindead penances that someone with a chip on their shoulder came up with

fuck off with your shitty penance designs that force me to do backflips across chasm station

[last sleet]

Or like this one. 500 rescues??

[hardy delta]

100% ACCURACY WITH 0 AMMO ON VET

now this is dumb

[patent jacinth]

That one is actually pretty easy

You don't even have to build for it

[hardy delta]

i actually stopped trying after 1st attempt

[patent jacinth]

Or play out of your way

[prime elk]

well this one can be done just by playing normally

[verbal thistle]

friend got it playing normally for make every shot count

[prime elk]

just grindy

[patent jacinth]

Just run weapons specialist double barrel

[prime elk]

i think it's also 90% now no?

[crude cape]

anyone have like a perfect rolled trauma they could link for me?
do you dump stat anything like below 60 (thus dont fully empower it) like you should with inferno staff?
or just leave warp resistance or blast radius at 60 and its fine?

[patent jacinth]

You only ever shoot into horde normally, so just run your ammo fast as you can after the half way point

[verbal thistle]

a crit one or non crit

[wind spruce]

Dude you are the one being insufferable

And I am an expert on being insufferable

[last sleet]

I mean it can, but I'm not a fan of giving achievements where somebody needs to fail and die 500 times before you can get it, assuming you can get the rescue each time.

[verbal thistle]

@crude cape

[crude cape]

oof, was hoping to roll 1 i could just use for everything if i wanna swap blessing around etc, but i guess they each build differently?
I have unlimited resources so, i can roll 1 of each its fine i guess which one does crit want and which one does warp flurry/rending want?

[verbal thistle]

maniac can be switched

crit one would perform better overall

but I like using flurry and flurry pairs well with rending

[last sleet]

Also: I SWEAR I dodged sniper shots before.

[crude cape]

i feel like blazing spirit doesnt add a lot to TTK and having warp flurry feels so good

i feel vulnerable and sluggish without warp flurry when shit gets hot

[crude cape]

ok so either way you dump warp resist

[verbal thistle]

yup

[wind spruce]

Blazing spirit gets applied to enemies outside of the blue circle. That's why it's so strong.

[crude cape]

this ok?

[steel flame]

Blazing spirit sets the entire map on fire, it's disgusting

[wind spruce]

In the case of those enemies it takes your TTK from minutes down to seconds.

[crude cape]

i dont run wildfire tho, bc it kinda sucks

ill try it, i just never liked how slow the casting felt

[steel flame]

Then you press f and now the map dies cuz everything now has 12 stacks of fire

[verbal thistle]

looks good, I personally take only 4 charges instead of 6

and use that 1 point into KF

its funny

[crude cape]

kf?

[verbal thistle]

kinetec flayer

brain burst modifer

[crude cape]

ah ya

[steel flame]

You def want wildfire on blazing trauma

[crude cape]

just 15s cooldown so, eh

its fun tho

[verbal thistle]

it is

[steel flame]

You are dealing with less stacks and wildfire means you are reaching your cap on more things faster so shout has greater effect

Bs on staff caps at 6

[crude cape]

wildfire sucks if you look at how it works

flatout

just not worth a skillpoint

it splits up to 4 stacks

its not 4 stacks per enemy

its 4 total stacks

its awful

unless something changed from a while back

[strong gulch]

It's a key component to fire trauma. It's not bad.

[crude cape]

its just not

it adds almost nothing to it

[verbal thistle]

it helps with in fire reborn stacks

[crude cape]

the other node is 10x better maybe more than 10x, and its not worth the points to hit both. fire trauma will spread stakcs just as much

it does NOT lol

the stacks it spreads are so low im telling you lol

if you kill a shotgunner, and 4 stacks spread. and theres poxies around. 4 poxwalkers get ONE stack each

its flat out not worth a point

when you add stacks 4 at a time on everything per cast, and up to what, 12 with vent instantly?

[torn kernel]

Stacks is stacks

[crude cape]

it adds literally almost 0 value

im sorry that logic sucks lol

the talent is cool

but the way its currently balanced/works its not worth a point when psyker tree is so stacked

[torn kernel]

Also it helps me see stragglers in lights out

[crude cape]

most useful part of it mentioned so far ngl lol

[torn kernel]

In Fire Reborn also doesn't really care how many stacks are on, just needs em to be burning

[crude cape]

back in the day i ran it all the time bc it sounds awesome and i thought it was good too

its still incredibly marginal when a single cast spreads so much stacks already

and it costs a whole skillpoint

[tranquil sluice]

warp resist is greatsword's dump stat right?

[torn kernel]

Warp res is everything's dumpstat lol

Except for like voidstrike i guess

[brazen rampart]

Voidstrike is the only thing that doesn't dump warp res because you dump blast radius. One could also argue dumping mobility instead of warp res on an illisi.

[solar schooner]

Need some help explaining "dodge duration" and whether it's more worth to take or EE for a scrier's build

[torn kernel]

Extra time in dodge state, but only for manual dodges iirc

I don't really remember if it works with EE but i don't think it does

[solar schooner]

If you had to take 1 for a melee scrier build

[torn kernel]

EE imo

[brazen rampart]

Take EE always. Anticipation bad.

[torn kernel]

It's pretty much always on if you're hitting into a horde

[brazen rampart]

EE is immunity for every crit. If you're running something like a recon, you can pop scriers and become immune to ranged attacks for as long as you hold your trigger down and hit things.

[torn kernel]

FGS with EE and all the tdr nodes can be hella tanky in scrier's

[solar schooner]

Ahh ok ty!

[brazen rampart]

Oh, btw, EE procs every time a crit assail dart touches an enemy.

[torn kernel]

Oh yeah that too lol

You can straight up ignore gunners

[brazen rampart]

If you have a buff management mod you can put true aim on it to keep track of it better so you can have on demand ranged immunity.

[solar schooner]

Ahh

How about for a DD build

Is this worth at all

[torn kernel]

eh

[patent jacinth]

Not really

[brazen rampart]

No.

[solar schooner]

Doesn't work well with scrier uptime?

[brazen rampart]

If youre looking for a peril quell talent you take crack of bone or tranq through slaughter.

[torn kernel]

I'd rather take the 10s node + 3 stacks on ws kill

Battle med also works if you can spare a point

Straight up infinite scriers as long as you keep swinging

[brazen rampart]

Crack of bone is 5% quell on weakspot kill and -20% peril generation for 5s(?), tranq through slaughter is 4% quell on non warp ranged crit.

Battle meditation is iffy because you're banking on a talent proccing 10% of the time for a 10% peril quell, which isn't very likely. Both crack of bone and tranq through slaughter are far more consistent.

[solar schooner]

Gotcha

[torn kernel]

True true

[solar schooner]

Wait

[torn kernel]

It's a lot more consistent in thicker hordes

[solar schooner]

Is there anything aside from guns that proc tranq?

[brazen rampart]

Anything warp related cannot proc tranq.

[solar schooner]

Ah

[torn kernel]

Non warp, ranged, prolly not lol

[brazen rampart]

No fgs slash, no staff attacks, no blitz attacks.

[torn kernel]

There's also that one blessing on fgs that quells every time you hit 3 enemies i think

[brazen rampart]

However you can get like 50% crit rate with a recon and hold down the trigger.

[solar schooner]

Hmm...LOL ok

[torn kernel]

If you really wanna swordmaxx

[solar schooner]

Last weird question

[brazen rampart]

That blessing is terrible btw.

[solar schooner]

Assuming infinite scrier situation:

[brazen rampart]

5% quell when hitting 3 enemies is nothing when you can just run crack of bone and get 3 procs off it.

[solar schooner]

Endurance or One With?

I usually run One With

[torn kernel]

Run both for quellmaxxing

[brazen rampart]

I run both.

[solar schooner]

If you had to pick one

[torn kernel]

I run em on my not-melee psykers without vent because it's kinda crutchy lol

[brazen rampart]

Actually apparently I'm insane because I don't have the points to afford both.

[vagrant onyx]

What's your tree looking like

[solar schooner]

Also, if I'm reading warp unbound correctly, I have 10 seconds to spam warp attacks at max peril without overloading?

[torn kernel]

Yeah but it's uh

[vagrant onyx]

These nodes work together to basically make turning on scriers God mode

[torn kernel]

Kinda janky

You gotta wait like half a second for warp unbound to kick in at max peril

[brazen rampart]

This is something I tweaked after looking at what Cole runs.

[torn kernel]

Otherwise you just blow up

[solar schooner]

Oh, but it's smooth sailing after that?

[torn kernel]

Yeah

[solar schooner]

Waiting the 0.5 secs so the other 9.5 I shouldn't blow up

[brazen rampart]

Warp unbound is lag based.

If you wait a second you'll never pop.

[torn kernel]

why the soulblaze nodes

[solar schooner]

Gotcha ty

One With > Endurance

Based off that tree

[brazen rampart]

BRO WHAT

DISCORD WHAT

[vagrant onyx]

Running fire staff? Interesting not taking the tough on peril gen/quell

[torn kernel]

Wtf

[brazen rampart]

I had like a bunch of text written out and it goes "heehoo sticker :)."

[vagrant onyx]

One with the warp would work better for you here like syndius said

[brazen rampart]

Anyway so, I use blaze trauma in my pocket with pc to abuse souldrinker.

[torn kernel]

Fair

[solar schooner]

Ah ok ty!

[brazen rampart]

5% toughness on all kills with a stacking 5% crit chance if I can chain kills fast enough.

If I'm not indulging in such madness I switch the soulblaze nodes to scriers tdr and tranq through slaughter.

[torn kernel]

This is what i use for melee/gunker

[torn kernel]

Scrier's tdr can be switched to move speed for a lil extra spice

[brazen rampart]

Literally exactly what I just said lmao

[torn kernel]

Lmfao

Discord loaded it late

[wind spruce]

That's not how souldrinker works

It only* procs off soulblaze killing blows

And the crit chance doesn't stack

https://outplayed.tv/warhammer-40k-darktide/XnrN8Q

[brazen rampart]

Well that's just... worthless.

[strong gulch]

Do you know if direct damage from purg procs souldrinker?

[tranquil sluice]

is there a weapon that can bless both uncanny and soulblaze on hit?

[vagrant onyx]

Regular forceswords

[raven mountain]

Killing blows on targets that have soulblaze*

[wind spruce]

That's literally incorrect lmao

[raven mountain]

Literally just tested it a dozen times in meat grinder

shout at target, heavy attack kill it. 5% higher crit chance, and the buff icon shows up

Nothing else dies to warpfire

[wind spruce]

The meat grinder is misleading

Watch the video i provided

[nocturne dust]

@hearty wolf @strong gulch I'm still upset about this

[strong gulch]

I would be too.

[nocturne dust]

Literally dodge the shot and get hit anyway

At least, that timing normally works for me. Maybe ping decided to be really good at the exact wrong moment

[strong gulch]

That's be messed up. Game continues to be rude.

[raven mountain]

Tested in a game.* Meat Grinder definitely misleading. But it's up way more than it should be for just having shriek and swinging a sword. Buggy af at best.

[nocturne dust]

Meat grinder is a solo server

or a local server

which means it behaves differently for souldrinker because souldrinker's issue is server-related

It works a bit anyways, but I think you underestimate just how much murder shriek does.

There's a reason it's the best ability on Psyker.

[raven mountain]

I mean, 6 stacks on some full health enemies will kill them, but it's up almost immediately. But it's not up instantly upon the first melee killing. It's the second one.

Might be other team mates getting something low and shriek finishing something random off.

[nocturne dust]

well, first of all, the sword isn't doing that either way

Your sword is not killing 5 poxwalkers per swing

[raven mountain]

It only needs to kill one in meat grinder.

Not sure what you're thinking I'm saying. 6 stacks is just what full shriek applies. Souldrinker itself doesn't stack or anything

[nocturne dust]

Souldrinker isn't a 50% refresh on toughness so idk wat you're on

[raven mountain]

I didn't say that either, you're literally not even responding to the things I'm saying.

One of us has wild reading comprehension problems, and I honestly don't know who it is rn.

[nocturne dust]

You said 'it's up almost immediately'

you were talking about toughness being full, yes?

[raven mountain]

Yeah, hit shriek, souldrinker procs

the buff icon

[summer prairie]

the crit buff

[raven mountain]

on my cursor that I moved there to watch it

to live test it because it's apparently super bugged

[nocturne dust]

Oh, you're just talking about the buff? Eh, that's not nearly as consistent

[raven mountain]

Yeah, like, in meat grinder. 100% consistent. That's bugged.

[summer prairie]

I'm not sure if it's bugged, the game just has many is_server checks in code so the behavior could just be different "intentionally"

[raven mountain]

In live, the crit buff is coming up inconsistently

[nocturne dust]

Yes

[raven mountain]

like not when the first melee kills something, but on the second

and 6 stacks of warpfire isn't going to be killing full health walkers in 2 ticks

[nocturne dust]

It works on all warpfire, just so you're aware, so for proper testing you need to be the only psyker around

[raven mountain]

So it's either someone randomly got one low enough to die to warpfire, or its a weird server tick delay thing.

I wasn't the only psyker, but none of them had warpfire damage on scoreboard

[nocturne dust]

Psykers without warpfire?

[raven mountain]

Yeah, 3 of us and I was the only one

idk

[nocturne dust]

It's a server tick thing, but it's not a delay

[raven mountain]

Also saw one the other day using shriek but with the non-warpfire buff.

[nocturne dust]

Pubs going to Pub

[raven mountain]

Saw it kill walkers but no fire.

Legitimately the first one I've noticed in the last few hundred hours.

Also, completely seperate, but I've been running purg+shield, and it really makes me miss purg+shriek when it comes to actually killing crushers/maulers/armor ragers.

Like, it kinda happens without shriek, but with shriek, they stop, stand still a second, then just fold over. Those 6 stacks feel like they do work.

[nocturne dust]

They do

Soulblaze damage is exponential

15 is about 120, and 21 is about 190

[wispy bay]

Inferno + combustible is quite enough to kill an ogryn horde imo.

[raven mountain]

And 21 stack soulblaze usually puts me on top monster damage unless there's a th zealot around.

[wispy bay]

Doesn't need venting

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, even if you don't shriek at the end, it's still very strong for ramping the damage up quicker

[nocturne dust]

I mean, yeah, it's plenty strong without venting. It's just stronger still with.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1310894228339167334/Fire_Elmo_V5.gif

[raven mountain]

It does kill them, but it's a different kind of kill. Like, I have to backpedal several times while they advance and swing at me. But Shriek's stun+damage basically reduces that to like one backpedal and then I'm fine.

Capable vs efficient

[wispy bay]

But when you have a dome, you don't need to back pedal vs shooters.

[raven mountain]

Sure. But that's not what is being talked about. I'm talking bulwarks, crushers, and armor ragers.

[wispy bay]

2nd solution, stun wall.

😇

[nocturne dust]

stun wall stunning elites when

[raven mountain]

I have been giving that some attention for fun. But more for hunting grounds maelstroms when I'm in between havocs.

The most annoying part is that that wall needs another few feet of height. It doesn't look like it always protects ogryn, and any kind of vantage just gives shooters too good of an angle.

[strong gulch]

Wall being too short for ogryns offends me.

[nocturne dust]

Enemies can just easily lob things over wall too

[strong gulch]

Ye

Double walls being bugged to better than they're supposed to be is wild to me.

[nocturne dust]

They're bugged?

[strong gulch]

Apparently they stop a lot more specials than they're supposed to.

I can't remember the specifics.

[nocturne dust]

isn't that just the invulnerability period?

[summer prairie]

stopping a special should make the shield take 8 damage, but it only takes 1 now

[strong gulch]

That. That's the thing.

I could remember the number 8, but that was it. lmao

[nocturne dust]

and they're still trash 😔

[strong gulch]

yes

[nocturne dust]

wall should be as tall as bubble, and invincible

[fathom adder]

And should apply the special repel to Force Sword blocking with Deflector

[deft stump]

Just wanted to ask if anyone has an easy H40 just for straight up completion.

[strong gulch]

I don't.

It's vigil station with pus-hardened and blight spreads.

[deft stump]

Might have to skip this week then.

Have warren cranial pus hardened.

Well, I think is warren. I already forgot tbh.

But yeah, just wanted to get weekly completion done. Not even try for TS tbh.

[plucky flax]

Can do a havoc 40 now if people are up?

Carry @deft stump and I

[deft stump]

Aren't you the carry?

[plucky flax]

I haven't played dooktide this week

@summer prairie @hearty wolf

[summer prairie]

ok

[deft stump]

I haven't touched Zealot this week. Just 'nade gremlin and the worst builds you can have on psyker.

[plucky flax]

That's good play it

[latent hill]

Hmm, are you in need of one more?

[plucky flax]

Yeah bruh let's go

Oops wrong reply

[plucky flax]

Yes

Ez 1 shot

[latent hill]

Well… I suppose I can lend my aid.

[plucky flax]

Go shower (just finished run without washing btw)

[plucky flax]

Fs code?

[deft stump]

Sec, youtube murdering CPU.

[latent hill]

Shit… gimme a sec

1226815469

I’m running martyrdom zealot.

[plucky flax]

Sounds good I am just vibing

[latent hill]

Praying to the emperor that it’ll work out.

I have done a couple of high levels before, but I never know.

[plucky flax]

[deft stump]

I dunno, I just want it out of mind tbh.

[plucky flax]

We'll try for tru survivor at the same time but is okie if can't. Karen will just have to wait longer

[latent hill]

It’s an attempt nonetheless.

[marble crater]

Good luck

[deft stump]

This is cursed.

Can I just go back to horribad assail spamming?

[summer prairie]

try joining in a bit

after we load in

[plucky flax]

Just join back on us when we in game

[latent hill]

Sorry I left

I got worried karen might not be able to get in

[summer prairie]

try now

[latent hill]

Me?

I’m prohibited from starting another one until the previous one ends it says

@plucky flax @summer prairie are you two in a mission already?

[marble crater]

You should be able to join through the friend list

[summer prairie]

we are restartiung

[plucky flax]

We'll try to remake

Rip duo havoc 40 attempt

[latent hill]

This is ludicrous…

[marble crater]

You wouldn't have made it anyway

[latent hill]

Wait

[deft stump]

I think EU servers are being spicy.

[plucky flax]

Probably not

[summer prairie]

would have

[deft stump]

Do we just try loading into auric or something first?

[summer prairie]

we try your map

[deft stump]

Server died?

[summer prairie]

no

[deft stump]

Took forever to rejoin. Altf4 didn't help.

[snow bone]

For the penance "Cliffhanger" is it necessary to use Psykenetics wrath?

[maiden oracle]

No

Apparently if a enemy is “falling” after climbing something or jumping off a ledge and you kill them that also counts

[snow bone]

So PSN profiles is lying to me?

[maiden oracle]

Wdym

[snow bone]

The playstation trophy description says "with psykenetics wrath"

[maiden oracle]

Oh yea you being lied to your face lmao

[marble crater]

#psyker-class message
Read this for cliffhanger

[maiden oracle]

Dunno if that’s a psn or fatshark thing

Fatshark likes to misword/obscure/straight up lie about stuff sometimes

[snow bone]

brb gonna go kill john playstation

thank you

[maiden oracle]

Go give that message link the other guy sent a click

Apparently it’s easier than trying to do it normally

Personally I just gathered a bunch of enemies on a bridge and shrieked them off

[marble crater]

I did it like in the video, play normally, smite. Done.

Doesn't matter what your team is doing, don't need any setup, just "luck" to get a horde to spawn, which you can also force if you do it in a private game with help

[steel flame]

Yeah all you actually need to do is kill enemies while they are falling......even killing them with your sword as they fall over a box counts

Most fat shark spaghetti approach ever

[tranquil sluice]

sexy

seems super rare to find anything with sub 20% missing in all stats.

[steel flame]

Yeah brunt sells a minimum stat number once you hit max level

It took me ages to get this thing

[tranquil sluice]

for now i don't care about having ultra-low warp resist, i'm not at that level

i also just like the look of it being maxed in all

[steel flame]

Its only useful for this sword specifically anyway

[acoustic swallow]

what is the dumpstat on the FGS/BFG?

[maiden oracle]

Warp res

[steel flame]

BFG?

[maiden oracle]

Blaze force greatsword I’m assuming

[steel flame]

Yeah warp resist

[acoustic swallow]

Never played it, but won't it build up peril when I use the charged attacks?

[marble crater]

Yes, that's a good thing

[acoustic swallow]

can't I die from that? or is it like smite where it vents when you reach 100?

[maiden oracle]

As long as you just don’t use the special attack a second time when you hit 100% you won’t blow up

[steel flame]

With 22% warp resist every time I use warp slash it generates exactly 50.12% peril. It's incredible

[maiden oracle]

You use it at 99% you will hit 100% you use it again and your body will rapidly begin to simulate the structure of a collapsing star

[acoustic swallow]

But only for the flying arc slash thing right?

[steel flame]

Yep

[maiden oracle]

You want to be as high as possible without actually blowing up to benefit from warp rider which gives you more damage the higher your peril

[steel flame]

It also greatly benefits venting shriek

[maiden oracle]

I’m sure there’s some other talents that benefit off high peril but that’s all I remember

[marble crater]

One with the warp

[acoustic swallow]

But if I want to use it with scriers gaze, it will end sooner, because I reach 100% faster?!