psyker-class

[lapis violet]

the majority of the game is experienced after level 30

[icy breach]

Thats the point; your psiker is lv 7 mah lil dumpling ;p Compare when You get lv 30, then you’ll see

[broken carbon]

“mah lil dumpling”

lmfao

[lapis violet]

my personal motto is that you don't know a class until you've reached level 30 and done all possible playstyles

[marble crater]

Spam assail to win, you are lvl 7 and Assail will be OP

[lapis violet]

i'm expecting a lot of shit for this but i mean like

[buoyant maple]

You don’t know a class until you’ve done thorough testing with all tools available to that class with at least 500+ hours of experience not one tricking a few specific play styles on said class

[lapis violet]

gun, invis, voc veteran, mark, weapon specialist, that other keystone for vet

[marble crater]

Well I don't know psyker then

[haughty star]

Yee just grab a gun, assail, and a illisi and start whackin

[lapis violet]

gunker don't count kekw

[haughty star]

Staves suck not leveled

[lapis violet]

meh, surge and purg are still decent

[icy breach]

Unless we talk about Ogryn

[haughty star]

Not really. Especially not to someone new to the char

[broken carbon]

no you don’t know a class until you’ve got like

300 hours on it

at the very least

[lapis violet]

path was joking but this is delusional levels of incorrect

[quartz barn]

If youre a slow learner i guess

[broken carbon]

well tbf when i say “know a class”

i meant like

mastered

[lapis violet]

yeah that's not know

[broken carbon]

yeah that’s why i clarified what i meant

[haughty star]

Psykee is the bestest. I've got like 10 or 15 builds for soyker that are all fairly different and still crazy in their own regard

[lapis violet]

that's like comparing a student of a subject knowing things about the subject to somebody who's dedicated their past 15 years to it

[broken carbon]

that’s why i clarified what i meant!!!! i recognized that we had different interpretations and then clarified it!!!!!!!!!!!

[quartz barn]

Cant really express it in hours either because mastering basically requires knowledge of the skill nodes + gameplay skill

[broken carbon]

yeah

that’s also why i said at least

[lapis violet]

that previous sticker was you writing an incorrect message

[quartz barn]

Like playstyle etc

[haughty star]

Death by Carcharodontosaurus to yee

[broken carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-growl-snarl-girlwolf-shewolf-gif-9942770988235712676

[jovial juniper]

You don't really know ogryn until you went punch only 🗣️ 🔥

[quartz barn]

Nah but some people just dont go that deep regardless of time spent

[marble crater]

How about you know a class when you can make multiple good builds by yourself without the need to ask others

[lapis violet]

so real

[quartz barn]

Sedition only gamers

[broken carbon]

seditionslvt

[lapis violet]

flashback to my previous match where i got a zealot playing an infantry las like a shotgun, holding down a corridor and not sniping gunners which had us locked tf down

[broken carbon]

that’s my goat right there

[lapis violet]

where i had to brave opening myself up to 5 gunners at once with a plasma gun while fending off hordes of walkers and groaners

https://tenor.com/view/far-cry-release-me-joseph-seed-gif-12887358985963630884

[marble crater]

Zealots are nearsighted

[icy breach]

What difficulty?

[lapis violet]

is that the reason their class chat had to be punished?

[lapis violet]

auric mael

[icy breach]

Ok youre trolling

[quartz barn]

Me freeing a teammate from a dog by shooting the fgs special through the wall, but dont get recognition because they cant comprehend what happened

[lapis violet]

by playing plasma?

[marble crater]

Their chat got punished?

[jovial juniper]

The feeling that your team stalled and someone has to breakthrough is pretty good
Because you either succeed at breaking through or get shot immediately

[lapis violet]

30s time restriction and no embeds

[icy breach]

No the zealot doing that in that difficulty

[quartz barn]

Apparently funni gifs got people upset, so mods locked the chat down

[vernal frost]

funni gifs (memes with slurs)

[marble crater]

[lapis violet]

"funny gifs" like the chat hasn't been a cesspit of brainrot and quite frankly idiocy for the past couple of months

[dreamy quiver]

hi

[marble crater]

Hi

[dreamy quiver]

what luck eh?

only cost me 15k

[icy breach]

IH

[lapis violet]

it felt bad asking things about the actual class in the class' chat

[marble crater]

Can always ask here, this is pyker and sometimes also zealot chat

[quartz barn]

Tbf people would help out all the same

[lapis violet]

the refugees have found a place where it isn't as serious as vet chat

[lapis violet]

like 40% of the time

[quartz barn]

But whatever else got posted scared people off

[lapis violet]

which is depressing, considering that veteran chat gives me success 100% of the time, ogryn also had a 100% success rate when i was playing that class and psyker also had a pretty good percentage

[quartz barn]

Ngl its been a long time since ive been in vet chat

[deft stump]

Look, I'm lvl 30+60+ and Assail still OP when eepy gaming.

[quartz barn]

Mostly because people used to debate that any aura other than surv is actually good

[lapis violet]

good roll, and for 15 k it's good to have

[jovial juniper]

[lapis violet]

but dockets really aren't the most important thing to save on. you get so many of them that whether you spend 15k or 30k for a revolver like that, it makes no difference

assail is a crutch, prove me otherwise

[icy breach]

Its about getting that perfect roll

[marble crater]

Makes a big difference for new players, to be fair

[lapis violet]

buy a good white revolver, roll 4 times and get the right perks and blessings

[quartz barn]

Psyker blitzs are only for skill tree pathing

[deft stump]

Try aiming anything when you are micronapping.

[lapis violet]

don't play when you're micronapping

just hit bedge?

[lapis violet]

i disagree. i can't imagine not having at least one longer range option on a purg staff

and if it were true, every psyker would be running smite kekw

[deft stump]

Nu. I wanna play like a malice gamer and then panic awake when things happen.

[buoyant maple]

Ogryn has more depth than most people are willing to give credit for

Their weapons in general are rly bad tho so I can get that sentiment

[quartz barn]

Well yes you have the passive bb node

[lapis violet]

🤮

[icy breach]

Grandma; its time for a proper sleepytime :3

[lapis violet]

never in my life

[vernal frost]

i run my bb w/ no nodes

[deft stump]

You are getting 108 kraks to the face.

[icy breach]

Can’t you tell i was memeing around?

[lapis violet]

after seeing that one video where a guy was shooting purg staff at a crusher and a bruiser and kinetic flayer killed the bruiser

NEVER will i ever pick that node up again

[quartz barn]

Dont tell me youre one of those people you see in havoc with purg, only to do 500k dmg because you rarely use it

[icy breach]

What an explosive finish; i like

[lapis violet]

and this is valid. i just thought about whether i really need it, especially since this is my havoc build

[quartz barn]

So yes

Nice

[buoyant maple]

A lot of people think that way unironically

[lapis violet]

??????

[marble crater]

The node in your screenshot is not kinetic flayer though

[lapis violet]

the node that i don't have is flayer

[deft stump]

[buoyant maple]

Kinetic flayer can’t proc on horde enemies anymore

Strictly specialist/elite/boss

[lapis violet]

because i rarely use purg or because i rarely use bb due to not having flayer?

[lapis violet]

in which case it's decent but like... i don't think it's saving me

[quartz barn]

Purg

[icy breach]

Yeah… I like showing them how great Oggy is

[lapis violet]

a false accusation then

[buoyant maple]

It’s not horrible for 1 point on psyker, and it’s fully passive with not much thinking

[marble crater]

Kinetic Flayer is great and I love it, I even use it on EK staff

[vernal frost]

i might pick it up someday tbh feels like i'd get big value on meleeker from it

[quartz barn]

Also you run flayer because it constantly procs due to purg high dmg tic uptime and warp charge gain

[buoyant maple]

Kinetic flayer also benefits from ur in-hand weapon’s perks and blessings that apply globally

So it’s usually more damage than using brain rupture on its own

[jovial juniper]

Funny Uncanny Flayer

[buoyant maple]

Ya that’s a thing

[lapis violet]

honestly i have no clue what i'd put it into so i'll do flayer and tell y'all how it feels

[icy breach]

It can proc on your DoT’s btw

[marble crater]

Can Brain Rupture trigger Kinetic Flayer? I could test later, but maybe someone knows already

[icy breach]

Cause its you who deals dmg

[vernal frost]

pretty sure it can

[buoyant maple]

I don’t think so? It can proc on inferno’s direct damage ticks but not soulblaze

[buoyant maple]

Yes
It’s exceedingly rare tho

[deft stump]

Sometimes I see a double strike.

[icy breach]

Yes it can; go to psikarium and apply soulblaze/burn/bleed on a crusher

You’ll see

[lapis violet]

bleed with psyker 💔

[jovial juniper]

With EP it'll "1 shot" crushers

[lapis violet]

another ep enjoyer YES

[buoyant maple]

Can it proc from “just soulblaze”

As in, u get high enough peril and vent to apply soulblaze, without applying damage to target first

[icy breach]

I just listed a DoT it okay my manly mamooth

[marble crater]

I should try KF with EP, but I just really love my warp charges and I really don't use my BB enough to justify taking EP

[lapis violet]

i can't use ep on havoc personally

bubble is also a crutch and i am crippled without it

[icy breach]

Yes, any DoT

[buoyant maple]

I’ll check when I’m home
If I feel like it

[icy breach]

I’ll hold ya to it

[vernal frost]

just use empathic evasion smh

[lapis violet]

i need a build that would have both BB and shriek which i don't feel like making

too bad

[buoyant maple]

-14 Celsius here I might as well not feel anything

[icy breach]

The definition of OP

[lapis violet]

it's for havoc idc

stalkers can suck my toes

[deft stump]

Move to equator. Our cold is 27 dec cel.

[icy breach]

For any game really

By the God Emperor how dreadful

[deft stump]

Perfect free aircon cold.

Since the best price to cool for aircon settings is 27 deg cel.

Lul.

[dreamy quiver]

this is what i use

1.5+ mil dmg on havoc 40

[lapis violet]

no bubble in havoc would be the death of me and my teammates

mostly my teammates

[dreamy quiver]

i only run that when i alr have a bubble psyker

[lapis violet]

ah fair

more bubble! said to the tune of more cowbell

[dreamy quiver]

this is the alternative pathing, and i get rid of kinetic resonance on bb

otherwise everything else is the same

[lapis violet]

what's the rest of this? i don't see a way to get everything i feel is necessary for psyker with this sort of bottom part of the tree

because that's 3 more perks and i can only free up 1

[icy breach]

Had games without bubble; manageable

[lapis violet]

ah dropped one from siphon

[dreamy quiver]

ah yeah sorry

[lapis violet]

i just really like getting lower peril gen

[dreamy quiver]

essence harvest is kinda useless when you have 100% bubble uptime

[lapis violet]

i run inner tranquility actually

[dreamy quiver]

that looks good for purge bubble

[icy breach]

Btw did they fix the rending above 75 peril for some staffs?

[patent mango]

i dont think so

[lapis violet]

what do you run for purg on havoc?

[dreamy quiver]

dump warp res stat if you can

[lapis violet]

like tree

[dreamy quiver]

same build

and these curios

[lapis violet]

how is it broken?

or how was it broken?

or for which was it broken?

[dreamy quiver]

for who was it broken

[marble crater]

It doesn't work

[lapis violet]

like you get nothing?

[marble crater]

Yea

[lapis violet]

so getting nothing is still better than the other option which i kind of like actually?

[marble crater]

ER is better than nothing and probably also better than the rendin, when it works

[haughty star]

It doesn't do that anymore

[lapis violet]

read up. got explained already and i've changed my stance on it

[fringe garden]

ER is great, but it is so me what build defining

[icy breach]

No; some shmucks will say that reducing peril gen makes you worse cause highier peril = more dmg and toughness dmg resist not to forget less toughness gain by 30%

[fringe garden]

It changes how important blessings ngs and talents that scale with peril are to you

[icy breach]

it is true but ER makes you cast more and control your peril better

[fringe garden]

If you can edge and maintain the peril without letting it bleed away it isn't that big of a deal. The toughness gen reduction is something you need to compensate for

[lapis violet]

less peril gen also means more time spent at high peril (due to being able to cast more things at above 75% for maximum nexus usage) means more damage and tdr if you have one with warp

[fringe garden]

Because not only does it outright reduce toughness gen, one of our best methods of doing so requires peril gen

[lapis violet]

and also means less time spent quelling in any way shapre or form

2 kinds of people in this chat lol

[fringe garden]

This is true, but it also requires you to either keep your peril from bleeding away constantly while also slowing your ramp up time if it does bleed away

[icy breach]

The negative toughness gain is really nothing for psiker when warp kills and crits give you plenty + your teammates exist with their shout or book or bubble

[fringe garden]

It is definitively not nothing

It can be overcame and compensated for, but it is definitely something you need to consider

[icy breach]

You generate soo much toughness as psiker it is barely noticable if at all you get that -30% mah boi

No matter the staff

[fringe garden]

I personally love ER and use it in a lot of builds. But it is something that dramatically affects how builds work. So you have to take it in consideration when designing one

I'm a level 430 psyker, I understand how much toughness we gen, mah boi

[icy breach]

Purg deletes everything very quickly, trauma and voidblast too; even surge when it crits gives you quite a boost

[quartz barn]

Just dont get hit, toughness = dump

[latent hill]

Er?

Euh… I need to be here longer

[fringe garden]

I mean, that's what I do. Just not get hit. But most people don't have that option lol

[latent hill]

Clearly I don’t know Jack shit about these abbreviations

[fringe garden]

Empathic Resolve

-40% Peril Gen and -30% Toughness Gen

[gaunt slate]

empyric

[marble crater]

Empyric 🤓

[fringe garden]

Errr yeah

My phone doesn't know that word lol

[icy breach]

430lv on psiker btw

[latent hill]

Oh

That I don’t use.

[icy breach]

Jk we gud vibing here

[quartz barn]

Ngl i only use it on purg

[fringe garden]

It's well balanced give and take

[quartz barn]

Why bother on other staves when you can also just attack twice and vent

[gaunt slate]

i feel like purge builds peril so slowly relatively though

[quartz barn]

Only exception i guess would be rending trauma

[fringe garden]

The sheer sustained pressure it lets you maintain is awesome

[icy breach]

Makes you spam surge staff and not have this minigame of overdoing youself too much

[quartz barn]

But mostly because i actively avoid all soulblaze as to not cuck the purg user

[fringe garden]

I use it with a Voidstrike DD setup

[quartz barn]

Hmm i guess i can trade some stuff around to be able to use it on void

But tbh void feels so bad now...

[gaunt slate]

i guess there’s an argument for voidstrike and electro

[last shore]

Watching my friend discord stream and host havoc 40, the amount of smite psykers applying is hilarious

[icy breach]

The balls are good my friend

[gaunt slate]

i really don’t like ER on purge or trauma

[icy breach]

Do not underestimate the ballstaff

[quartz barn]

It used to be the best staff, but dots are way more useful atm

[fringe garden]

As long as you run DD and get headshots Voidstrike is gnarly as hell. I do it with Flurry and Surge and just spam endless balls. All the balls.

[quartz barn]

But nexus surge crit setup

[fringe garden]

I'm aware. I'd rather send more balls

You get guaranteed crits constantly

So eh

[icy breach]

Go back to your corner you nutty nut nut

[quartz barn]

Still underperforms compared to the other staffs tho

You mean garden

[fringe garden]

For some, maybe, for me it really is the best

[quartz barn]

Currently theres a rain modi however, so less sunflower uptime

[buoyant maple]

Psyker chat out of context

[fringe garden]

Lol

[marble crater]

Slowmode and embed ban incoming

[icy breach]

Psiker chat do be a vibecheck

[quartz barn]

Imagine being anti balls

[fringe garden]

They do have their downsides. It's a lot of wasted effort if you can't get the headshot.

[icy breach]

Remember; apply directly to the forehead

[fringe garden]

Gotta watch for the AOE so I always aim a little high as well

[deft stump]

Are you telling us to move?

[marble crater]

To that awful place? Nah

[deft stump]

See.

[quartz barn]

Simply transfer zealot chat to here

We are zealot chat 2.0 after all

[patent mango]

go away

[quartz barn]

Inhale

[deft stump]

Nu. Have 216 kraks.

[marble crater]

I don't need this chat to get punished as well

[icy breach]

For what really? We gud here

No rules are being broken; only heretics

[fringe garden]

Strictly speaking everything we said is 100% true about voidstrike

So

[marble crater]

I mean if we transfer the chat to here

[icy breach]

Nah shoutie too stoopid to change channels

Not like ogryn

[deft stump]

And I mean, stroking the sword (illisi) and (peril) edging is what all psykers do anyway.

[fringe garden]

It's certainly not our fault the innuendos exist. It is what it is.

[haughty star]

Void strike is really based facing down a long channeled area

Areas where you have flak coming from all sides it suffers heavily

[fringe garden]

Also warp splitting with Voidstrike makes the cleave outrageous

Can pick out mixed elites and specialists effortlessly

It does require more aiming than the other staves, minus Voidblast. That one is a unique beast all its own.

[haughty star]

I feel like they could speed up the charge on void about 50 percent and it wouldn't really hurt the balance of anything lol

[upper sun]

bruh there are already people modding dlss4 into darktide and vt2

all im gonna say is if you already have a 5090 FUCK YOU

[buoyant maple]

Huh

[upper sun]

dlss 4 is out kinda but its only for 50s series cards

[buoyant maple]

On nexus?

[upper sun]

not exactly

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/dlss-4-310-1-0-0/104692

[buoyant maple]

Do u mean the DLSS4 upscaling method (all RTX cards supported) or the DLSS MFG tech (50-series exclusive)

[upper sun]

i have no idea

[analog agate]

Dlss4 is for all cards

[upper sun]

r u sure?

[analog agate]

Well, at least 40 and 30

Yeah

Multiframe gen is 50

[upper sun]

ok but i still hate people with 50s 😠

[analog agate]

I am getting one 🤷‍♂️

I hope

[upper sun]

yeah if you can find one

[buoyant maple]

Ya they said DLSS4 and Reflex2 will have backwards compatibility with all RTX cards

[analog agate]

I didn’t read the article. But pretty sure I saw a pic actually advertising darktide on non 50 series cards getting a 10 fps boost with dlss 4

[deft stump]

Don't think it'll help the 1% where it just jump skips ahead stutter.

[analog agate]

I haven’t experienced that 🤷‍♂️

[buoyant maple]

The stutters are just DT having bad frame stability

That’s my conclusion after 3 weeks of benchmarking

[deft stump]

Not even putting ragdolls to 1 helps, lul.

[buoyant maple]

Maybe 4 weeks not sure

[deft stump]

It's funny watching dead bodies go poof constantly.

I don't really mind since I modded PD2 to basically do that so yeah.

[vernal frost]

y'all can already run dlss4 in darktide if you have the dll

which you can get from cyberpunk

[buoyant maple]

Can anyone send it

[upper sun]

lmao

[vernal frost]

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/1i82rp6/dlss_4_dlls_from_cyberpunk_patch_221/

[analog agate]

I’ll just say. Dlss is why I would never think of getting an amd card

[vernal frost]

yeah even if dlss didnt exist i would never get amd

esp how their drivers particularly suck at darktide

dlss is just the final nail in the coffin

and dlss 4 being backwards compatible to 2000 series...

[lone wing]

if dlss 4 works well on my gpu i might be able to play darktide on 100 fps

[autumn lark]

bladewolf can you explain to me in dms how to download the files and how to make them work

this mumbo jumbo is confusingh

[analog agate]

You can also just wait one week

[upper sun]

copy it then paste it

[autumn lark]

🤫

[upper sun]

you're not that guy lil bro

[vernal frost]

i did not do jack and im playing marvel rivals rn

[autumn lark]

https://tenor.com/view/stalker-game-mercenaries-stalker-game-stalker-gif-11586070399648579192

[vernal frost]

you're better off asking @blissful solar they did it earlier today

[autumn lark]

@blissful solar

https://tenor.com/view/gogeta-angry-stare-scary-serious-gif-9595046672430067305

[haughty star]

Typical nvidia L

[autumn lark]

It will be available for 4k cards

[haughty star]

Its only for 50 series lol. And dlss and fsr3 are pretty close as someone that owns both. 7900xt was pretty much the best bang for your buck for last generation. Also don't know where you get the idea that the drivers for amd suck lol I've never had one single issue with DT on my amd card

[lone wing]

amd has literally fried itself on most people that i know's pcs

[haughty star]

Nvidia is overpriced and generation gating junk

[blissful solar]

https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/662669-dlss-4-dlls/page/5/

vbazillio's post has the instructions

[vernal frost]

its for all rtx cards

[haughty star]

Unfounded

[lone wing]

no

[haughty star]

Source?

[lone wing]

it it founded

[vernal frost]

nvidia is the source

[haughty star]

Frame gen still only for 40 and 50 series

[analog agate]

Too much work for me for a one week wait haha.

[autumn lark]

my brain is too brainy to figure out how to make it work

but ive seen good things from people so i wonder if my 4060 will be able to hit a consistent 60fps playing path traced cyberpunk

[blissful solar]

smooth brainy

[left basin]

framegen feels ass

[last shore]

Gonna wait and see how the reviews are for 5090 before upgrading my 4090

[buoyant maple]

Nah DLSS4 is backwards compatible with RTX cards

They market MTG (which is 50-series exclusive) as part of DLSS4 but it really isn’t, DLSS4 is just the upscaling algorithm update

[autumn lark]

nvidia cant upgrade cards to have more raw performance anymore because it would mean making bigger components for the cards

[lone wing]

do not upgrade from a 40 series card, if you do that you are wasting money

[analog agate]

Unless you want multi frame gen. And/or play at 4k

[haughty star]

Still tho. I doubt it's any massive improvement over dlss3.5 and in side by sides fsr3.5 and dlss are pretty much directly comparable

[left basin]

just tried dlss4 on cybiepunk

[autumn lark]

theyve hit the point where people can still fit their graphics cards in their pc cases and ai seems to be the logical step to performance seeing as how much of a generational leap nvidia has made with it

[lone wing]

if you have a 40 series card currently, that means you are future proofed for the time being unless you bought a 4060 like a dumbass

[autumn lark]

fuck you

[blissful solar]

it is a massive improvement, go watch le digital foundry video about it

[lone wing]

why did you buy that waste of silicon

[autumn lark]

i wanted a 4k card

[patent mango]

who pringled me

[lone wing]

60 series cards haven't been viable since the 3060

[autumn lark]

and it works pretty well for me

[lone wing]

low vram

[haughty star]

Until amd releases fsr4 i could care less lol

[patent mango]

ohhh slopshark new slop

[deft stump]

Doesn't matter if capped by CPU. XD

[left basin]

less motion blur

[blissful solar]

Sadly only usable on the 9000 series but yeah fsr4 is better than fsr3 by a lot

[lone wing]

true
amd X3D cpus are THE best cpus on the market

[left basin]

this feels grate

[last shore]

Is it worth if I want more fps on 4K though?

[autumn lark]

bro typed that long just to say low motion blur

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

[left basin]

give dlss4 on dorktide now

[blissful solar]

u can force it

[vernal frost]

just force it................

[left basin]

how

[vernal frost]

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/1i82rp6/dlss_4_dlls_from_cyberpunk_patch_221/

something something

[autumn lark]

if you dont have a smooth brain like me you can install and make it work

[blissful solar]

depends on the game. darktide won't see like any benefit at all cuz it's cpu heavy

[deft stump]

I still have an old i7-9700. The 3060TI is already too much for it.

[left basin]

ok me try

[vernal frost]

next week is nvidia driver update which will let you swap out dlss

[lone wing]

oof, that's rough

[vernal frost]

you telel us how when you do

[last shore]

I play a lot more than darktide so

Is it worth

[deft stump]

Would cost too much to upgrade, since will probs also need a new motherboard.

[blissful solar]

only like 20-40% better. might depend on how much you can sell your 4090 for and how much you can actually get a 5090 for.

[last shore]

Won’t sell the 4090. Will just build my GF a new PC instead. She deserves it with med school and all.

[lone wing]

what mobo do you have rn

[last shore]

Especially with inzoi coming out for her 💀

[blissful solar]

yknow i wouldn't upgrade like that but if it's basically just a way to get your gf a new pc then it's probably fine

[deft stump]

And Old MSI thing they nolonger even show on their webside last I checked? Let me see if i can find the box.

[left basin]

on cybiepunk it feels very nice. way less motion problems that i feel as of right now

[last shore]

Yeah I’ll wait for reviews to see if it’s worth. I’m not the type to buy into hype before it drops

[deft stump]

Z390-A pro.

[blissful solar]

there are some reviews out now, yesterday was the day a bunch dropped

[last shore]

Yeah meant more so the general population

Sometimes they’re paid advertising

[buoyant maple]

Me wait for nvidia app update

Maybe I’ll tinker with the dll when I’m home today

[deft stump]

Z390-A pro. Is old though.

[last shore]

Money isn’t an issue for me. But just recently got my PC so wanna see if it’s worth updating so soon after

[deft stump]

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/Z390-A-PRO/Specification

[lone wing]

yeah uhhh
you can only have 8th and 9th gen intel cpus
pentium gold and celeron
amd just doesn't fucking work for that mobo LOL

[vernal frost]

intel ewwwwww

[deft stump]

Did say I can't upgrade unless I get a new one. Just don't have the budget to bother. It's like getting a new PC except GPU.

[lone wing]

at that point you'd be better off getting a new pc in general
genuinely you have parts that old

fact it works still is good though

dont need to upgrade yet

[deft stump]

Joke is, the GPU is the thing that's dying.

[lone wing]

LOL

sounds about right

[deft stump]

Why else is everything ancient but the GPU.

_>

Well, it's ancient now, but you get the idea.

I guess the ram as well is new.

[analog agate]

This is what I am doing. I have a new PC for myself (hopefully with a 5090) and my wife gets my old one.

[haughty star]

Wth is a 9000 series

[last shore]

https://tenor.com/view/awesome-bicep-muscles-arnold-schwarzenegger-gif-10817666

[deft stump]

Since I upgraded to 48GB because Thanks Firefox, you are totally becoming Chrome but mini now.

[blissful solar]

the new amd series

[deft stump]

16GB RAM, Firefox only.

[prime elk]

5090 is overkill for the vast majority of gamers

stop buying jensen huang new jackets

[blissful solar]

AMD GPU and CPU naming is fucking abysmal, though it's slightly better this time.

there quite literally exists a 7900x and a 7900xt and they are NOT the same type of product

[vernal frost]

considering majority of gamers are still on 1080p......

[deft stump]

Because cost of monitors.

[vernal frost]

not really

2k is cheap

[deft stump]

144hz min?

[vernal frost]

ye

[deft stump]

During COVID time?

[blissful solar]

remember Karien, singapore is expensive. we can get 1440p144hz monitors for like 250 dollars

though they're probably not that great of monitors

[deft stump]

Because, yes... My old monitor died during covid.

I basically sold half my dota inv to pay for this.

[last shore]

I have ultrawide 34 4K monitor

So would probably be worth, who knows

[deft stump]

I mean, it's about that price if I didn't dook up the conversion maths. FOr this 1080p 144hz AOC.

Well, abit more.

Like $280 USD.

And yes, it's the cheapest.

[blissful solar]

on Amazon rn a

AOC Q27G3XMN 27" Mini LED Gaming Monitor, 2K QHD 2560x1440, 180Hz 1ms,

costs $250
their 180hz 1080p display costs $100

[deft stump]

I mean, it was COVID time.

[blissful solar]

yeah back then everything expensive as heck, perhaps even worse out there

[last shore]

Rate my setup

[deft stump]

I would basically DS5 myself without my PC so...

[last shore]

Use it for both work and gaming

[deft stump]

Also, i can't buy online unless someone helps me.

Offline, you pay more for everything it seems.

[marble crater]

Too clean, 1/10

[left basin]

gimme ur job

i rate it can i have it all pretty please

[last shore]

There’s definitely pros and cons to my job for sure

Pays super well, can be fun and I have a good team. But it’s high stress at times

[left basin]

i'm down being the most stressed, but i'll just whine and do nothing

[last shore]

Can’t do nothing 💀

[left basin]

https://tenor.com/view/cody-winklederp-chihuahua-blinking-stare-dazed-and-confused-gif-16643037621002923276

[haughty star]

Where did you find a uw 4k?

Because if it's 3440x1440 it's not 4k. That's still 2k

Rate my setup

[blissful solar]

holy gaming...

[near gale]

Hey, I remember monitors that were like that... only they were bigger :/

[last shore]

Nah my bad. Meant OLED 34” HD

[haughty star]

Scored these puppies for 20 bucks a piece. Both factory reset and work like a charm. They're worth over 300dollars without the peripherals lol

[near gale]

nice

[haughty star]

I rock a 3440x1440 34" msi meg qdoled. Will literally never switch back from oled with dimmable zones

Going to oled is kinda like switching from 1080 to 2k. There's no going back

[clear heath]

i know it's common enough at this point for people to understand, but people calling 1440p 2k still bothers me

[near gale]

I call it as I see it lol

[deft stump]

Look, I can see 30 and 60 FPS now.

[near gale]

1440 is 1440/1.4k, 2000 is 2000/2k

[deft stump]

They annoy me.

FOAMS.

[clear heath]

the closest resolution to 2k is 1080p

[deft stump]

I can see dips in anything below 120FPS.

[clear heath]

if anything, 1440p should be like 2.5k or 2.6k

because 4k refers to the horizontal resolution

[haughty star]

No, no it's not lol

[near gale]

I am not talking resolution, I am talking numbers >.>

[haughty star]

2k is what 1440 is called lol

[blissful solar]

even 4k is only 3840 heh

[haughty star]

Or "QHD"

[haughty star]

In 2ks case

[quartz barn]

Meanwhile me in 144p

[near gale]

[haughty star]

A simple Google would save you some stress lol.

[hollow current]

1920x1080 is clearly 3k lol. just add the numbers lol

[blissful solar]

most people don't really call 1440p 2k though, i barely ever see that

[near gale]

All I see are numbers that are supposed to mean resolution stuff... but just look like multiplication problems to me x.x

[lone wing]

that's just how it works

idk why

[clear heath]

2k actually originally referred to 2048 × 1080
Similarly to how 4k would refer to 4096 × 2160

[haughty star]

Its called 2k or qhd by the monitor manufacturers lol

[clear heath]

it was a movie standard

[lone wing]

this is pc standard

different things

[haughty star]

[clear heath]

we just took 4k and altered it to fit pc aspect ratios
and tried to do the same to 2k but did it wrong

[lone wing]

well

because for pc aspect ratios it's completely different

[clear heath]

but 1080p is still the closest anyways

[lone wing]

cameras replaying a video vs rendering

[clear heath]

it's 2k horizontal resolution

[blissful solar]

I remember back when 16:10 monitors still existed. good times...

[idle aurora]

What's the void strike build atm? crit / flak for perks, and surge / flurry for blessings?

[haughty star]

I don't think that was ever the case lol

[quartz barn]

Its literally only because 2k is easier to market than 1920x1080p

[haughty star]

If it was I can't find any information on Google about it

[clear heath]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2K_resolution

your google is broken

[quartz barn]

Nah you just wrote a wikipedia article rq

[clear heath]

fascinating

[quartz barn]

[lone wing]

json, it's different for media producers vs pc hardware producers

[quartz barn]

No not really

[near gale]

This is all I see... it looks like multiplication problems >_<'

[haughty star]

Yeah but seeing as you're in a gaming discord and not a movie one, you are wrong

The irrefutable fact that monitor manufacturers refer to 2560x1440 as 2k is not really debatable.

[near gale]

just subtract 560 from 2560 and add it to 1440 so you have 2000x2000

[clear heath]

wow sure is weird that that it lists the monitor standard here and not qhd
must be a coincidence

[blissful solar]

they're dimensions

[near gale]

I get that, but, all I see are numbers with a multiplication sign inbetween them lol

[blissful solar]

gotta train your brain i guess

[quartz barn]

NA math

[near gale]

I know that's how resolution and dimension things work... but I also don't really talk about specifics so I have no reason to really learn them

[summer prairie]

2K is definitely not widely used to describe 2560x1140 , QHD Is much more common. Sure some manufacturers use whatever in their marketing

[blissful solar]

2 x 4

2 by 4

[near gale]

8

[blissful solar]

https://tenor.com/view/board-break-karate-regular-show-gif-20602208

[quartz barn]

No wait by your earlier logic its 3x3

So 9

[near gale]

1/2

[quartz barn]

[haughty star]

Sure is weird that if you type in 2k screen to Amazon I guarantee you you ain't gonna see some shitty movie resolution lol

Petty as hell

Its literally what the manufacturers call it

[summer prairie]

yes you get results because some people are confused

[blissful solar]

2k is a fucked up marketing term, that's all

[near gale]

I mean technically isn't it something like 1920 pixels by 1080 pixels or w/e?

[summer prairie]

it's supposed to show you results even if you don't get terms right

[haughty star]

Nah it's because that's what they're called lol

The manufacturers deem them so

[quartz barn]

Also, if enough people are confused it becomes standard

[vernal frost]

still the same discussion about hardware?

[quartz barn]

Result is this 2k shit

[clear heath]

It gets called that after the fact because people fuck it up and get confused
2k isn't an industry standard term for it

[haughty star]

Yes so companies like asus and msi surely know less than you

[near gale]

I know the larger the # x # is the more clear the image seems to get :/

[blissful solar]

I think they call it 2k cuz 1080p is obviously only 1k. but this isn't how they should've done it since the 2k should refer to horizontal resolution but 1080 is the vertical.

[haughty star]

What they call their monitors is wrong even tho their monitors are what we're talking about lol

[summer prairie]

asus and msi use QHD and WQHD

[quartz barn]

Thats super common tho

[blissful solar]

that can happen cuz of marketing

their marketers use words that aren't technically the truest and it gets normalized in the market

[vernal frost]

y'all forget that people are stupid!!!!!!!!!!

[summer prairie]

never admit you are wrong online

[near gale]

I just want a monitor that monitors... I don't need a ultra hd quality image, just a decent one x.x

[clear heath]

they call it that just because that's what people search for
And i'm pretty sure the big monitor companies actually don't do it in their spec sheets

[last shore]

Yeah it’s great. Mine is the Alienware one

[clear heath]

an amazon listing title isn't an official spec

[summer prairie]

https://www.asus.com/us/site/gaming/1440p-gaming-monitor/

[last shore]

It’s gorgeous

[summer prairie]

how many mentions of 2K there

[last shore]

Especially with games like cyberpunk or ghost of Tsushima, etc

[near gale]

the 1st pc I had... it had like windows 98 on it... any monitor better than that shit works for me pretty much

[blissful solar]

Amazon listingsmight add 2k because it's a thing noobs will search for and is meant to mean 1440p for some reason. basically a form of SEO

[haughty star]

I toggle off hdr sometimes to remind myself of how shitty everyone else has it

[near gale]

... isn't the refresh rate more important, for gaming, than the dimensions on the monitor?

[blissful solar]

depends

[haughty star]

Gemini says yall are wrong so hold the l

[near gale]

as long as it is decent, I mean, for the dimensions

[vernal frost]

ok but but but but but it goes even further........ what about 24 inch monitors and someone labels them as 23.8

and then uhhh

[clear heath]

I think taking google's ai result is already a bad sign

[near gale]

iirc my monitor has a refresh rate of 5ms

[blissful solar]

resolution, physical diagonal length, refresh rate, and display technology(ies) are the most important factors

oh and response time but all gaming monitors are fine on that

[clear heath]

we've seen google ai results telling people to jump off cliffs

[blissful solar]

Das the response time

[near gale]

Ah

[haughty star]

In some cases here i think they'd be right..

[blissful solar]

technically it just says "typically signifies" which doesn't exclude the possibility that the term 2k is used erroneously

[autumn lark]

How much does dlss 4 improve darktide?

[clear heath]

anyways i am aware that 2k is a recognized community term
It just annoys me that it's based off something that doesn't make sense

[haughty star]

Regardless of your weird arguments against it, people call 2k 2k literally all the time lol. Thus, it is a thing it is called lol. It is not factually wrong to call it that if popularity dubs a term for it

[near gale]

That's what I meant with that initial question where I used refresh rate x.x

[vernal frost]

i thought 2k was the game company??

[blissful solar]

response time is important but it's usually low enough on any self respecting gaming monitor that it isn't too relevant

[near gale]

All this talk about dimensions is making my head spin lol

[clear heath]

This is just a minor annoyance i have, similar to when people complain about "could of" even though like 100% of people would understand you

[blissful solar]

it's basically that there are 2 senses of the word, that's all.

on wiktionary if there's an entry for 2k they probably have 2 definitions/senses

[near gale]

I miss when 2k only meant 2000 lol

[autumn lark]

Publisher

[vernal frost]

publisher

[blissful solar]

they do not have a wiktionary entry for 2k (not one that says anything anyway)

2K

The resolution of display devices or content having approximately 2000 pixels in horizontal.
Usage notes
edit
In the 16:9 aspect ratio, 2K and 1080 HD are frequently interchangeable.

[clear heath]

this is basically the tech equivalent of arguing about "could care less" vs "couldn't care less"

[blissful solar]

they actually do have a wiktionary entry for it :v

[near gale]

16 blue whales x 9 humpback whales x.x

tbh, that'd be a pretty damn big monitor >.>

[blissful solar]

bigger than the las Vegas sphere by quite a lot i assume

[vernal frost]

waow........

30% faster.....

[deft stump]

You want to stream something so ppl in space can see is it?

[hollow current]

gonna sell out 30% faster too i bet

[autumn lark]

So dlss 4 is a pretty big step for nvidia?

[blissful solar]

the 5090 is more or less a glorified 4090 ti

[autumn lark]

Or is this the new 5k cards

[blissful solar]

its not even a truly new architecture

[vernal frost]

have you seen its size? its like half as big as 4090

[blissful solar]

that's an improvement I guess, though i think if they wanted to they could probably make the 4090 small too

[vernal frost]

its pretty damn impressive for a gen

[vernal frost]

5k

[prime elk]

yeah the FE card is impressive

[blissful solar]

there's probably some shit like water cooled 4090s that are smallish

[clear heath]

honestly impressed with the cooler
but nah I don't think it makes that much sense for most people to buy

[prime elk]

hope it's impressive enough to spend 2500 bucks on though

[vernal frost]

oh yeah unless you have a 240hz 4k monitor

[deft stump]

I'm pretty sure the size is just for air cooled PCs.

[vernal frost]

no reason to spend your money lol

[prime elk]

and no way you're getting it for msrp in most places

there's already shortages and the card isn't even on sale yet 😭

[autumn lark]

https://tenor.com/view/cooler-gif-21232268

[near gale]

purple

[blissful solar]

I've heard that if you have a high heat cpu the new gpu cooling strategy can contribute to overheating of your cpu. but only if you use cpu air cooling

[haughty star]

Lol 2500 for a gpu when my whole ass high end rig cost like

[prime elk]

might be a problem on smaller systems

but full sized ATX cases with proper airflow should still be fine

[blissful solar]

the gpu throws its hot air straight into the cpu cooler

[near gale]

So is this part of their face, or some sort of helmet thing? @autumn lark

[deft stump]

They already do that.

[haughty star]

Also i might be of the minority but I actually love having a huge gpu lol

[vernal frost]

i dont

[blissful solar]

https://x.com/gerulis20/status/1882438003064557892?t=gaSlfDI5gDkgCEo-CfpfjA&s=19

HiTzz (@gerulis20) on X

This is what i was afraid when i saw RTX 5090 power consumption numbers. It's not about that, but the total heat output this GPU delivers. If you want a 5090, either use it in open test bed, or go for custom loop or prepare for HEAT, Yikes.

X · Jan 23, 2025, 2:39 PM

[vernal frost]

not having to worry about it sagging is cool for me

[autumn lark]

Frieza's race has natural armor

[blissful solar]

not really, though a little bit. this one has a fan dedicated to throwing its heat upwards towards the cpu i think

[vernal frost]

how many fans i wonder

[autumn lark]

Nvidia releasing the most cost effecient heater just when spring starts

[haughty star]

73c is insane

[near gale]

Ah, just a cool temp of 163.4 degrees farenheit...

[deft stump]

It feels that way for me.

[blissful solar]

73c is very cool

I'm sure that's what you mean by insane

[haughty star]

My 7900xtx doesn't get past 62 lmfao

[vernal frost]

73 is very cool for an air cooled 7800 yeah

[blissful solar]

that's a cpu brother

[deft stump]

This seems just normal with a light game.

[vernal frost]

i would even say pretty insane numbers

[near gale]

I know for a pc that might be cool, but, not for my hands lol

[hollow current]

laptop processors are constantly at like 90+

[lone wing]

73 is actually ice cold for a cpu

[blissful solar]

definitely not. even at idle gpus and cpus are 20-40c

[haughty star]

Oh. My 7800 doesn't heat up past 70 for nothing less than benchmarks or encoding..

[blissful solar]

going from 73c, an impressive number, to overheating is not a good sign

[deft stump]

Darktide turns my tower into a drink warmer, heh.

[vernal frost]

yeah idk they didnt even list their case or the amount of fans they have

[clear heath]

wtf 95c

[haughty star]

73 is pretty awful gaming for a x3d chip

Id have to guess their cooling is mid

[vernal frost]

i dont see any info about anything

[blissful solar]

https://www.computerbase.de/artikel/grafikkarten/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5090-test.91081/seite-12#abschnitt_doubleflowthrough__575_watt_sind_ein_problem

German tho

[clear heath]

73 is the 4090
They say in the next paragraph that 95c is the 5090

[autumn lark]

Helldivers 2 was the only game that could make my card go to 90 degrees

Thank god they fixed that

[upper sun]

anyone gaming in like 10 minutes?

[vernal frost]

Measurements with more AirFlow in the case
With the Fractal Design Torrent, the additional 200 revolutions are already enough to get the heat build-up around the Ryzen 7 9800X3D working again without any problems. Even after 30 minutes, it doesn't get warmer than 84 degrees Celsius, so the CPU is almost 10 degrees Celsius cooler, although still 11 degrees warmer than with the RTX 4090 FE.

With maximum case ventilation, the processor then reaches 68 degrees Celsius – that's another 5 degrees less than with the GeForce RTX 4090 with significantly reduced case ventilation.

[blissful solar]

wat

[vernal frost]

so

[deft stump]

3060TI idle... 61 deg cel... i guess it's just living in a warm place.

[vernal frost]

they just upped the fan speed

problem solved?

[haughty star]

Idk my 7800x3d usually sits at 68 degrees gaming and my 7900xtx is usually at 62 degrees

[vernal frost]

its just gonna be louder

that's it

[upper sun]

amd stuff runs hot usually

[vernal frost]

there's no actual reason to worry.....

twitter users not even reading the full context

classic

elon musk take that guy's verification away

[upper sun]

yeah also they started using liquid metal for paste it works fine at higher temps

[autumn lark]

90 degrees is fine but im still wary when its that high

[blissful solar]

i see, so basically it is definitely hotter but it's still gonna work. just gonna have to have a louder fan i guess lol

[haughty star]

90 is not fine for a x3d lol

[blissful solar]

but to note they apparently only have a single 140mm fan on their dh15

[haughty star]

They're supposed to thermal throttle at 88 and they max out at 94

[autumn lark]

I dont use amd

[deft stump]

I can slack around if you want.

[vernal frost]

main point was comparing 4090 v 5090 so that's that

[haughty star]

L

[upper sun]

sure

[vernal frost]

twitter user took it out of context and made it look like you're gonna need an aio for your cpu

[haughty star]

Amd is where it's at for gaming cpus

[blissful solar]

im down

[upper sun]

https://tenor.com/view/sir-yes-sir-oorah-cat-emotional-gif-23930229

[blissful solar]

[vernal frost]

also another thing that's weird for me is uhh

well never mind actually

the article is fine

[haughty star]

I always recommend aio anyway. Less clutter, more cooling, only slightly more expensive these days. Moves heat out of the case rather than blowing it around

[deft stump]

Not when this PC is ancient. From a 2060 to a 2060TI and now a 3060TI...

[blissful solar]

my question for this article is...what is the cpu even doing? it doesnt seem to say they're running a cpu test?

if the cpu gets that hot with just the gpu doing stuff and the cpu being at <30% then...wtf would happen if you played a game that needed 60+% cpu and 100% gpu?

[deft stump]

It goes BOOM.

[haughty star]

I mean you're limited by socket there, otherwise I'd just recommend doing the 5800x3d

5800x3d is Bae for ddr4 applications

[clear heath]

i have a 5800x3d
it holds up well

[blissful solar]

i still wish they made a 5900x3d or a 5950x3d

[deft stump]

I mean, I guess the only upgrade is finding a i9 9900.

[haughty star]

The 7900x3d sucks and the 7950 doesn't even outperform the 7800x3d in games

So miss me with that bs

[blissful solar]

true, they have the ccd problem. but i had a 5800x and couldnt justify going from a 5800x to a 5800x3d. but a 5950x3d? maybe

[clear heath]

maybe they will
amd is kinda weird and still releases am4 cpus several years after am5 release

[blissful solar]

doubt it. they did release the 5900xt within the last year but that's probably the last dying gasp

[clear heath]

i keep thinking they'll kill am4 and then they release something.
idk i could believe anything at this point

[blissful solar]

i think most of the things they released were leftover stock that couldnt make the cut for a higher unit

best they might make is a 5600x3d with this logic, from the failed 5800x3d's

[steel flame]

Alright after a full day running this build I have some adjustments Im gonna make

Im gonna move back the mk6 gs

I prefer the light combo on the 8 for the fire spread but the cost to access the push attack is too much

[deft stump]

Ah yes, Darktide... Mourningstar.. GPU already hits 73 deg cel.

[steel flame]

I'm always at 100% peril so having my nuke behind a peril requirement has proved extremely damgerous

[hollow current]

6's heavies are just too good and easy to pop out vs the 8.

[steel flame]

Same conclusion I've come back to

[deft stump]

@upper sun Which vox?

[haughty star]

I mean digital foundry found it to be on average 20 percent faster at 1080 and 15 percent faster at qhd than the 5800x

Thats a totally justifiable upgrade

[upper sun]

3?

actually make it 26

[clear heath]

this feels like a wasted point
With how low psyker's base toughness is, even taking another +15 toughness node instead is more effective toughness than 5% toughness dr
And you're in range of one right below warp rider

[steel flame]

If I wasn't always at 100% peril in melee the 8's stab would be great but risking the push attacks to get the stab and the risk of popping from it in a melee fight is just too dangerous

[haughty star]

6 to slow

8 is Bae

[steel flame]

Oh sweet didn't see that. I was more focused on pathing to what I needed so I missed a few redundant nodes appreciate it

[blissful solar]

you're probably right. i ended up getting a 5900xt and that wasnt exactly much better

[broken carbon]

both r good

it is preference

i have seen the light

unfortunately

[steel flame]

@clear heath Ive also got a 15 toughness node I can also trade out to give me 2 but I can't figure out what would be worthwhile with this 2. Kinetic deflection is pretty much a waste in this build since warp slash is keeping me at max peril. I guess I could path to the soulblaze rending

Don't really have anything I need in the keystones

[stark crown]

I have quickly learned people

cannot fucking manage A3 Maelstrom

at all

[verbal thistle]

nope

[steel flame]

Not at all

[stark crown]

I spawn in

[steel flame]

They get lost in the chaos

[stark crown]

6 Weakened bosses

and I immediately get stun locked into a corner

Idfk what the fuck they were doing but multiple Tox bombers were in play with Bulwarks and BON and CS spam was happening

[last shore]

Thunder hammer zealot makes this a joke

[hollow current]

Sounds like a party.

[upper sun]

@verbal thistle https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053823148048527440/1332328044920045630/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2025.01.24_-_13.15.05.01-00.04.19.673-00.04.31.409.mp4?ex=6794daaf&is=6793892f&hm=167ee46e1e9ce14fbe6d6678a13f0241d77b9c75a700b456c9d849c5aa0c01ed&
bulwarks....

[clear heath]

not sure what i would do with the extra two points here tbh.
Personally i'd give up more to reach DD like souldrinker and solidity but i assume souldrinker is the whole gimmick of this build since you have blazing spirit, so i doubt you'll give that up

[steel flame]

@clear heath So for the secondary. I'm kinda torn here between fire staff and laspistol. I need a boss killer, fire staff is more on theme and can melt them and is extremely safe with empathetic evasion but falls apart when there are multiple bosses, laspistol has the faster kill time and is also safe with empathetic but it needs ammo ....

[clear heath]

I'd probably stick to fire staff unless you're willing to give up things to reach DD, as laspistol would want those

the ranged crit quell, true aim, DD itself

[steel flame]

Souldrinker is mostly there for that 5% extra crit chance and low investment cost. I could take the top of dd if I drop some stuff and it would give me a big speed boost but I need to go through a bunch of stuff that does nothing for the build

[icy breach]

Shameful slow retreat... like a shouty

but ye Bulbois do be sometimes bs it is what it is

[upper sun]

I SHOULD HAVE KILLED IT REEE

I only need 2 stacks to kill it and i had 3 and chastise

it must have blocked it

REREEE

[icy breach]

You hit the shield

[steel flame]

I can reach 45% crit chance with souldrinker and riposte which is just enough to keep up empathic without gaps in a horde with the gs

[near gale]

https://tenor.com/view/rare-reeeeee-dank-meme-triggered-gif-24062717

[icy breach]

it was acually frame perfect

unlucky

...or too slow

[steel flame]

It would be better if warp slice could trigger fire but that's just a dream rn

Hmmmm

[weary crane]

Is lightning storm the only worthwhile smite perk

[steel flame]

The 10% extra damage is 10% extra damage

Empowered heavies is not worth it tho

[clear heath]

If i were to go laspistol and was trying to stay as similar to your build as possible, i'd probably do this.
If you're sticking with flame staff though you probably don't need DD as much

[weary crane]

I'm thinking of taking lightning storm just because there are so many enemies on havoc and it staggers more

[steel flame]

Mmmm still need wildfire unfortunately, ive tried without it but bs really needs that to add anything to shout

[clear heath]

lightning storm is good if you plan on smiting a lot and have a spare luxury point

[steel flame]

I will give it a shout tho

[thorn cedar]

Yes.

[weary crane]

Well i dont smite a lot but its either that or 5% ranged dmg

[clear heath]

yeah you might miss wildfire a bit. It is pretty nice for shriek

[jovial juniper]

Something something Enfeeble helps with how fast your ticks act or something

I don't remember what kuli wrote on the smite part of the guide

[thorn cedar]

enfeeble reduces mass modifier on enemies so the stun effect occurs milliseconds faster

this is only relevant for ragers and ogryns

[weary crane]

Or i could take wildfire

[clear heath]

kinda odd to take more warp charges but not any extra warp charge generation

[weary crane]

I just try to target specialists and elites, and there are plenty on havoc 40

[thorn cedar]

yea it comes down to your elite/special kill rate inbetween ult uses

[weary crane]

If I'm max stacks then I will leave them until i use my ability

[jovial juniper]

Smite easily kills bursters so that's another Stack

[weary crane]

So should I take lightning storm or wildfire?

[clear heath]

i think that will just come down to playstyle

I like wildfire with shriek builds and i don't smite enough to use lightning storm
But i think most people would notice lightning storm more

flip a coin, idk

[weary crane]

Ig lightning storm, because creeping flames already lights up the entire map lol

[hearty wolf]

Bro do you know how your weapon swings

xd

It has got to be on purpose

[weary crane]

Hehe

[hearty wolf]

That first hit clearly missed. You hit the wrong particles

[quartz barn]

bro plays at 1 fps

gamer

[upper sun]

Yes 😠

that swing should have killed it

it takes me less stacks to kill

[fresh panther]

Are you just getting hitregged repeatedly here? An activated light should at least stagger the shield out of the way

[upper sun]

the activated heavy should have killed it

the animation just freaked out and blocked the hit with the shield

[dire orbit]

Needed to hold it a bit longer - thrust only got to one stack

[upper sun]

nope i tested it

i can kill it with no thrust stacks

[dire orbit]

Huh, even on arm hit?

[upper sun]

yeah just two stacks of headhunter and sustained assault

[dire orbit]

Weird

[clear heath]

On an arm shot? wild

parts of their arm have cara i think

[fresh panther]

I feel like climb and fall animations have some fuckery where it still acts like the shield hit box is in front regardless of where the shield actually is

[clear heath]

wait i'm thinking of reapers

[dire orbit]

You’re sure your tests weren’t just lucky crits? I know this is a stupid question but like I’m tryna understand what’s stopped you

[upper sun]

yeah prolly something like that

[upper sun]

bulwarks have it too

[hearty wolf]

clad needs head

is the answer

[upper sun]

frfr

but thats not the point 😠

[clear heath]

he crit anyways here
F was used

[upper sun]

also even if it was carapace i had chastise

[dire orbit]

Fuck yeah true

[upper sun]

which should have been enough

[clear heath]

Do you need martyrdom stacks?

actually what tree do you use for this?

curious what the build is

[upper sun]

oh also

heavies 1 and 2 can not hit the arm for some reason

only heavy 3 can touch the carapace part of a bulwark

[clear heath]

weird

[hearty wolf]

I want to put Clad in a bulwark only mode

and see what weapons

[upper sun]

one more yap out of you and im stealing all your plasteel

[clear heath]

they should make that a maelstrom condition

[upper sun]

all 2k of it

[clear heath]

bulwarks instead of poxwalkers

[hearty wolf]

Jokes on you

I completed the game

I got Potato true survivor

[silver mantle]

All bombers

Imagine hearing did someone call for a boom 600 times

And hearing his loud ass flak walking over

[pale forum]

so i need some help best way to do clifhanger penence

[marble crater]

Read this #psyker-class message

[pale forum]

lmao i just was there 😄

[vernal temple]

yes please, I need like another 140 to complete my penance

[blissful solar]

@upper sun you done?

[upper sun]

ye

i typed in the chat i gotta cook

[blissful solar]

didnt show up for me, fatshark moment

[flint pawn]

dear psyker chat

[haughty star]

Be still my heart

Good looking AND they cook?

[flint pawn]

veteran chat yielded no response so I'll ask here, does anyone know if bomber resistance affects the pox gas modifier

I would assume it doesn't but after figuring out the whole Ogryn-Poxburster-Heavyweight interaction I can't be sure

[marble crater]

Wouldn't that be corruption resistance?

[upper sun]

making a stew

[flint pawn]

corruption resistance probably affects it I'm just wondering if bomber resistance does

since as far as I saw, the pox gas modifier is the exact same as the pox gas the tox bombers throw

so it got me wondering if it quite literally is the same to the point that resistance affects it

[marble crater]

I thought bomber resistance is just for the fire from scab bombers and dreg bombers were added later, and knowing fatshark...

[flint pawn]

bomber resistance does affect tox bombs

[marble crater]

[flint pawn]

I guess the fact they didn't forget to adjust that accordingly says something

[sudden willow]

not sure how accurate though

[flint pawn]

maybe I should just boot up true solo mod and test it

[marble crater]

Corruption resistance sounds more useful regardless

[flint pawn]

I mean the only characters I have resistances on is my psyker and ogryn and that's a bomber resist for former and gunner resist for the latter

[dreamy fjord]

Does anyone know how to make the psyker faster my psyker runs in slow motion and I'm always in the back can't keep up

[flint pawn]

depends on weapons

[near gale]

^

[flint pawn]

get into sliding while sprinting more

[near gale]

^

[flint pawn]

your stamina regen as a psyker starts fast enough that it will start mid slide

[upper sun]

can anyone recommend a brainrot youtube video essay? i need to listen to something for a bit

[near gale]

The regen delay of psykers is 0.5s for stamina

[dreamy fjord]

Yea I use that great blaze force sword I probably should change it but I think it's too cool

[flint pawn]

you can optimize it further with a weapon like a dueling sword or knife if you want, you can go really extreme and use stuff like Mettle or even use Scrier's Gaze at the start of missions but that's a bit excessive

[near gale]

for zealots it is 0.75 seconds, but, they regenerate stamina 50% faster as well

[flint pawn]

don't worry too much about falling behind the team at the start of the match

as long as you actually get in the fight a little later, you're fine

people just like to sprint out of the start

[marble crater]

Anything that isn't gunner or corruption resistance is not worth the slot, imo. Even those are debatable

[near gale]

yeah my oggy's slower sprint speed weapons has me fall behind a bit at the start, but, I usually don't have trouble getting to the front line

[flint pawn]

I take a bomber resist just because for whatever reason those always seem to get me killed on psyker specifically

everyone else I have no issue but the moment I play psyker all the bombers are after me

but yeah once I get over being triggered by that I'll go back to whatever perk I traded for it

I think it was a 5% toughness

[marble crater]

Not brainrot, but listen to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aq4G-7v-_xI

[upper sun]

this is education not brainrot 😭

[marble crater]

Yes, learn something

[upper sun]

no

doing "Oakburn and the Misery of 1997"

"the analogue horror that changed me..."

[marble crater]

Unlucky, play DS4 and dodge out of the fire

[flint pawn]

I do 😔

[acoustic swallow]

which of the devils claw swords to use as a psyker?

[small fable]

the one called blaze force sword

For long I thought Psykers were best suited for control and support, stunlocking waves of specialists and elites to allow the strike team to have some breathing room

But then I buildcrafted for a bit and realised I can just 2-shot damnation crushers with melee psyker

in like 3 seconds and shit

[jovial juniper]

4 or 7

Mk1 lacks some strike downs

[marble crater]

Death is the best CC

[small fable]

It's permanent :D

Also I was doing that (with like 2k damage per swing) with a sword that isn't even max rating, has 34% damage, and no perks against carapace or elites

If I can get a really good blaze greatsword and pump it up I think I will become death the destroyer of heresy

[marble crater]

[small fable]

I'd share the build but no image perms

[broken carbon]

heresy’s greatest warrior

[small fable]

I'm confident that with a greatsword that's not complete shit I can one tap a crusher

And since it's with the horizontal slash, possibly multiple crushers if they're grouped up

[broken carbon]

mk8 PA into stab can with a crit with DD and SG

[analog agate]

⬆️

[broken carbon]

oh if you mean the special

that’s much more finicky

i don’t even know if it’s possible actually

[fringe garden]

Uhhhhhh, I'm not sure that could 1 shot a crusher

The poke absolutely can

[broken carbon]

maybe with carapace, elites, warp slice, 25 DD, 30 SG stacks, full perfect timing stacks

unstable power

but that’d be a massive pain to reach

and idek if it could

[small fable]

Maybe not, but I did two tap them already

If I have a sword with 80% damage and perks against them I think it could be done

[broken carbon]

do you mean the special ?

[small fable]

Well, one hit with the special and one quick heavy

[broken carbon]

tbf ur talking about heresy

[small fable]

No I was testing it out in damnation meatgrinder

[broken carbon]

you can just one shot with a heavy

no need for the special

[small fable]

I'm trying to go for the special since it has the potential to get multiple ones

[fringe garden]

Mastering the poke is crucial for FGS gameplay

[broken carbon]

special itself one shotting crushers?

[small fable]

Mhm

[broken carbon]

that breakpoint would be so difficult to reach you’d never really see it in game

at least, in damnation

[steel flame]

@clear heath so i swapped to the mk6 and my god its like night and day, my warp slash combos into the stab and its disgusting

[small fable]

well, even if not completely one shotting, at least dealing as much damage as possible to a group of them so they're easy to pick off

[small fable]

I've had so many havoc and maelstrom missions ruined because people don't know how to handle groups of 3 crushers

[steel flame]

also i took your advice and dropped the 5 dr and put it into 15 toughness

[broken carbon]

that’s just dodging lol

[small fable]

I know 😭

[analog agate]

I still have to try mk6. I have been loving/using the mk8 only since release

[fringe garden]

Smite and Trauma are better options for coping with that scenario

Imo

[small fable]

Smite is most probably the best 'meta' for psyker

[fringe garden]

Or just spam push attack/poking

[small fable]

I just wanna do a big melee damage build for fun

And I've got it to a point where I do very big damage with an unoptimized weapon