#psyker-class

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upper sun
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if you dont feel safe staying around 80 peril any amount you keep helps

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like i usually try to hover around 50-70% its comfy and i never blow up

surreal magnet
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got it

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thanks everyone for the insight

marble crater
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Any more questions while clad is here to answer them?

left basin
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what are you clad in

upper sun
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clothes

left basin
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normie

strong gulch
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Goosebumps

radiant frigate
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boosegumps

upper sun
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i saw a thread on the forum its not wrong tbh

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people kinda stopped reviving after havoc released

radiant frigate
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true and real?

upbeat kestrel
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Why would you stop reviving

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Whats the point

radiant frigate
upper sun
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i mean you cant alwways revive but sometimes even if someone goes back a bit and dies to 2 poxies

upbeat kestrel
lone wing
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inside of havok makes sense if you're mid horde, going down is basically a death sentence
any lower no, res people
and if someone gets trapped DONT KILL THINGS FIRST IT TAKES NO TIME TO RELEASE

upper sun
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they full on die

upbeat kestrel
upper sun
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you dont have nukes in havoc

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they dont work

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and its a waste

upbeat kestrel
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Im refering to second part of his message

lone wing
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inside of havok idk how it would work but in auric damn i usually toss a greatsword special in that direction and go in

radiant frigate
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for havoc just stay in the designated play area (stacked bubbles)

lone wing
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not played psyker inside of havok yet and im not sure i want to

radiant frigate
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victory

lone wing
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i would like to start running duos at some point though

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that could be fun

vernal frost
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what's the point in going down in havoc
might as well restart as you're not getting true survivor.....

radiant frigate
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havoc would be much cooler if it didn't have such a laserfocus on making ranged enemies as lethal as they were on release

vernal frost
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reviving is truly pointless

lone wing
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beating the fucking mode

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the goal is to not go down but sometimes the game bullshits you

lone wing
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like the 3 damage run i had earlier where i got grabbed by a mutant and took 3 damage before getting released

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im still pissed about that

vernal frost
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we need more modifiers focusing on making different things lethal

lone wing
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nah i fucked the dodge

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cannot expect to get freed from mutants every time

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or at all really

radiant frigate
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havoc be like
we give you less ammo so you will melee nore
havoc also be like
random shooters will kill you in 2 salvos

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make it make sense

upbeat kestrel
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But at double the rate

lone wing
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that is by far the least thought out part of havok

upper sun
vernal frost
lone wing
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i would rather 2x the melee horde spawns over gunner spam

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fuck it

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5x the melee horde spawns

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just tone down the gunners PLEASE

radiant frigate
upper sun
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fading light needs to be removed idc

radiant frigate
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we thinks it's disgusting and vile

vernal frost
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fading light is meta defining.....

upper sun
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fading light is glorpshit

lone wing
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i like the name of fading light, but the fact it makes gunners the single most dangerous enemy in the game

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reapers being the only ones more dangerous

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and basic pleb shooters somewhere in the 3rd or 4th slot

vernal frost
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rotate it out please fatshark....

summer prairie
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There's that unused havoc monster specialists modifier that's like the regular but with 50% shorter (max) timer between spawns

lone wing
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fading light can stay as a perma mod if they make the gunner buff it's own seperate modifier

summer prairie
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would be pretty much constant monster spawns

lone wing
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i can handle boss spawns out the ass

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unless im alone and there's 3 of them compressing my throat in a hydraulic press

wet token
marble crater
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If there is something psyker chat is good at then it's telling people how to make their builds better KEKW_ogryn

wet token
upbeat kestrel
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Its good imo

lone wing
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FGS - riposte yes, idk about wrath someone else more knowledgeable answer that, i personally use precog
recon lasgun - dont know enough to decide, but i use the vraks infantry autogun (previously the columnus)
3 curios are good, replace combat ability regen though it's useless
talents is where you fucked up a bit, give me a bit though ill explain why

upper sun
summer prairie
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no perfect timing

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with a weapon that's all crits

upper sun
summer prairie
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oh

upbeat kestrel
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Recon lasguns are really good

summer prairie
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but he would want it with assail anyway

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if he drops smite

upper sun
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yeah i would just go assail

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otherwise its good

deft stump
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I wonder the smite is just for Psykinetics.

upbeat kestrel
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I like the green one most

upper sun
deft stump
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Oh, then why even go smite?

wet token
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The Smite is entirely just to cover base in case of worse case scenarios where a second needs to be bought.

That said, will take the advice to grab assail

upper sun
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yeah but just freezing stuff with smite wont help much you would need creeping flames to at least clear a hoard

lone wing
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battle med is alright but not needed, i'd replace it with perfect timing if you swap to an infantry autogun but for now you're good
replace smite with assail, everyone will hate you less and you can use it to keep peril up
good all the way down to aura, again if you swap to an autogun change that to prescience (crit chance is king with autogun)
one with the warp is aight but i would grab warp unbound on scriers instead
then you can forego quietude or warp expenditure for warp speed (scier mod) which does come in handy but it's required at all

upper sun
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itll only buff assail

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its kinda not worth it for gunbuilds

lone wing
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assail buffs react_chefskiss_cc

upper sun
lone wing
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true

upper sun
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and MM

lone wing
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fuck you right i need to drop that talent NOW

upper sun
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Male momentum is a far better buff to assail

summer prairie
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you still have to path through something and battle meditation isn't doing much either

lone wing
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though the FGS special gets buffs

upper sun
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yes

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male momentum chadgryn

lone wing
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but yeah all in all for the love of god drop somethign and take warp unbound and thank me later

upper sun
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warp unbound doesnt even work correctly yet

lone wing
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30 scrier stacks, full charged sword special is too good

lone wing
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i know that for a fact

upper sun
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it works but it can still bug out

lone wing
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not had that happen yet

wet token
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Thinking of what to replace the regen with on the curios.

I will swap Warp Exp for Unbound to see how I feel about it

summer prairie
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keep combat ability regen if you like it, I've it on all my curios

lone wing
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im a sucker for more stamina but combat ability is actually just not doing enough to keep

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my curios are all stamina regen, less stamina for sprinting and toughness %

wet token
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I'm not thinking of many options for it.

Feel like HP (total of +15) is an okay adjustment.

I don't think Tougness Regen Speed would be any good.

lone wing
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toughness % not toughness regen

wet token
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I already have Toughness % on it

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all 3 of them

marble crater
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Health

lone wing
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all 3 of mine are this

lone wing
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only use health on zealot and only in martyrdom builds

marble crater
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MORE health

wet token
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Well, I'll give this rendition a run and see how I feel about it afterwards.

lone wing
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not without losing mettle

deft stump
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Can survive an overhead without untill death proccing. XD

marble crater
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It's what I use in havoc

deft stump
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At least in normal aurics.

lone wing
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i have more points in scriers than i do anywhere else

wet token
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So, just finished my run with the build. Felt really nice, even when I was left alone to fend with a massive hoard with maulers in it an such. I suspect there's still a bit to tweak, and definitely more skill to be had

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That said, the help has been appreciated

lone wing
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anytime

wet token
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I should use the LFG sometime to get this penance done e-e;;

lone wing
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which penance?

upbeat kestrel
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What penance

lone wing
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assuming the 50% boss hp one

wet token
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The one that you have to pop a boss's noggin'.

lone wing
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yeah

upbeat kestrel
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Its easy

lone wing
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i can hop on for that now TohruShrug
not doing anything

wet token
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It's not hard, just inconvenient since I really have to go out of my way for it

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it's the only reason it's not done

marble crater
wet token
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The one where you knock people off the cliff?

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I did that one on accident

marble crater
lone wing
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i am god now

lone wing
wet token
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Just going to scratch up something rq so that it's easier to actually do the thing

lone wing
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exactly that lol i was putting it together now lol

wet token
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Well, grabbed it lol

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was surprised about grabbing shield vs Venting, but I suppose it's because of the two charges allow you to have longer uptime on brain burst speed increase

lone wing
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ye

marble crater
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They also stack

wet token
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Oh

lone wing
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pop both and go to town

wet token
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Nasty

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Any recommended weapon setup or does it not really matter?

lone wing
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whatever you're comfortable with

wet token
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I'll just keep the Moonlight Greatsword ™️ and the recon lasgun

lone wing
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that works

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what region are you btw not trying to give you 400 ping

wet token
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Should be U.S East

lone wing
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that works

wet token
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Here's the code: 8201502364

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... you threw up the Queue and it insta disconnected me

lone wing
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oop

upper sun
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im a bad person

quartz barn
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Not really, gtfo is kinda dead

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Better follow house of wolves instead

upper sun
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i did it for all of them

quartz barn
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Or den of wolves?

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Idk upcoming game by gtfo dev

haughty star
quartz barn
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However, you can claim that you use mods in gtfo to tilt the admins

upper sun
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tiktok wouldnt let me make an account 🤷‍♀️

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gotta do what you gotta do

haughty star
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I would also drop soulstealer for almost anything else on a scriers build

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Quietide already doing some pretty frigging wild heavy lifting

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Namely probably quick shards or unbound if anything

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This is my personal favorite way to run recon/fgs. Goal is just to maximize scriers uptime and not have to worry about assail spam breaking up your sciers time to proc mm. Just shoot or hack and slash and stay in scriers

lone wing
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that went a lot smoother than last time

wet token
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'Preciate it Vodka. I would like to say I'm not super terrible. Usually I can do fine enough on my own 🙏

haughty star
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Also try vraks v with one of the various forms of gunker sometime! I do the dum dum and raking fire and it puts pretty much all the bosses to sleep almost as well as a good gungryn

fiery wigeon
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den of wolves looks hype but maybe that's just cuz payday 3 was such a shitshow

quartz barn
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Because dow is literally just payday

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Devs are the og payday devs

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Gtfo doesnt get any more updates, but is still fun if you have a set group

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Been running rundown 5 with the bois for the past week

haughty star
quartz barn
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But dont expect activity from the discord

wet token
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I do have a better Vraks vs Lasgun...

deft stump
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Before anyone asks, I just modded due to money things.

quartz barn
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Bully her into playing gtfo instead

haughty star
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Las gun better at proccing mettle and tranquility and shit cuz of the fire rate and stability

deft stump
wet token
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Unfortunately, my Lasgun has been kindof a placeholder lasgun

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only 80 stat is damage, everything else is scattered on it lmao

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It does have nice mobility though.
-# 69.

haughty star
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It happens. I dump collateral on mine.

wet token
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I just haven't gotten around to resource dumping into it yet

haughty star
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All collateral does is stagger

fiery wigeon
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recon lasgun is such a massive damage output drop from vraks Sitgryn

wet token
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I usually dump mobility on my weapons

haughty star
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I do too but in recons case collateral is fine.

deft stump
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It's not like Crime Boss where you can still play Single player. And was "cheap".

haughty star
fiery wigeon
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ive tested that shit it is definitely that large

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especially with true aim and scriers shitting out crits

haughty star
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Applied vs potential are very different things. Everything looks great shooting at a still target in psykaneum

lone wing
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only thing you had issues at with was the open area, zero cover there are 5 gunners staring at you in end event

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though everyone has issues with some bs like that

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game really said "fuck you"

wet token
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Yeahhhhh that was rough and didn't have the 'haha immune to gunners' talent. In retrospect I shouldn't have even had a problem there because I could have put up two walls and been okay.

haughty star
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Shit is literally my favorite haha. Blitz out into a area and just start magdumping to become neo

wet token
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Btw, BAZ. Funny that a Recon with Collat as it's dump and everything else at 80 is being sold rn

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so I'll pick it up and give it a go

lone wing
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speaking of is recon lasgun the play now?

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i've been hard locked to that fucking autogun for months

haughty star
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Its a play for sure

lone wing
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@upper sun input NagaGun

silver mantle
upper sun
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recon is legit

haughty star
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You gotta use the 12 tho

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The others are okay in their own regard but I feel 12 plays best with psyker

wet token
lone wing
lone wing
haughty star
lone wing
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last time i tried using a recon is did not go well

haughty star
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I think it's 12

silver mantle
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been running dumdum stripped down on vet

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been funny

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in havocs it causes a bunch of disablers to spawn though

wet token
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XII iirc is the BRRRRRRRT one iirc.

upper sun
haughty star
upper sun
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its an and statement

haughty star
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But yeah generally speaking you want the brrt one

lone wing
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and it's recon, the one with the carry handle

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before i buy 30 of the wrong fucking gun

haughty star
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Yes

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Recon 12.

marble crater
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What if I want the brrrt one?

wet token
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I'm supposing the brrt one is because you get 5 shots out way quicker than the other ones

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for the talent

lone wing
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stability dump kek

haughty star
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It procs talent better and infernus

haughty star
lone wing
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collat is stagger iirc

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yeah

wet token
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If we all get the same 'shop', he's selling one with dumped collat

lone wing
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we do not

upper sun
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nah everyone has their own

wet token
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gotcha

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wasn't sure

lone wing
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i already have a collat dump

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one collat and one stab

haughty star
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I don't dump stab because it heavily effects the hip fire on it

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And that's one of the main reasons other than talent proccing to run recon for me

lone wing
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infernus dum dum im assuming being the blessings for it

haughty star
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Yessir

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Flak unyielding

upper sun
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why are we doing mk12 instead of mk13?

haughty star
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Proccing talents and infernus

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And 13 is a ammo pig

lone wing
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that's the highest damage one too

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only 30 less bullets total than the 12

haughty star
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2 bullets per shot

lone wing
haughty star
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Fatshark moment

lone wing
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and i now i go test

wet token
# haughty star Flak unyielding

Flak and unyielding, assuming not the 5% crit chance because theoretically with Gaze & every 5 hit talent you'll be critting more than often enough anyways?

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I might be stating the obvious, but this is me really just confirming my knowledge and understanding of choices

lone wing
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after some testing

haughty star
lone wing
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mk12: 2 mags take down a pogry to about 1500 hp
mk14: not even fucking close, dogshit
mk9c: kills the pogryn halfway through the 2nd mag

haughty star
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Yee the one with 2 shots per shit has rending so is more ideal for bossing specifically but if it's bossing you're looking for than vraks v is still the more clear choice I believe

lone wing
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testing on bosses because it's got a better ttk timing thing

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all of them will kills everything else pretty quick

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at this point this is just going to become a ranged armor killer

wet token
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So... sounds like the 12 is the way to go?

lone wing
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yar

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iirc infernus procs on shields right?

wet token
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On un unrelated note, the only penances I have left on my Psyker are the 'play more Psyker' ones. Feels good.

celest valve
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lol pogryn

lone wing
bitter pelican
thorn cedar
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ive been staring at my tree for twenty minutesSSSSS

hearty wolf
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Why

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Just take all the career skills

thorn cedar
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cause i already have

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idk what other combination of talents i could do lmao

lone wing
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what build are you going for

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wait this helmet goes hard

upper sun
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i just want a nice simple black or silver colored facemask

upper sun
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no 😠

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i want a simple thing

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just a facemask no gear around it

deft stump
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Just want more hoods for psyker.

thorn cedar
upper sun
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bro what is that 😭

lone wing
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the sharp left turn at the end hurts to look at

thorn cedar
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ive had warp unbound fuck me three times in one match

lone wing
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that's just not a viable build

thorn cedar
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so im just ditching it

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but at h40 what ive noticed is that i dont really need more toughness gen, and movespeed is a bit wasted since 90% of the game is being tied together at the waist with four other people

marble crater
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One of the builds of all time

thorn cedar
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just dont know where to put these two points anymore

deft stump
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So going condomless, I see.

marble crater
thorn cedar
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zero point in that

marble crater
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Yeah

lone wing
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if you have soulblaze and it looks like you do

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in fire reborn, left keystone upgrade you dont have

thorn cedar
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oh

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i clicked the wrong one there

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thats what i do use

marble crater
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Did you also click on scriers instead of bubble by mistake?

thorn cedar
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nope

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bubble can fuck off

marble crater
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Use shriek then?

lone wing
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inner tranq

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the other left keystone mod

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endurance

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top most scrier node

thorn cedar
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yea idk that might be right

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like thats boring

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which i hate

deft stump
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Or just gotta go fast, lul.

thorn cedar
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but its probably right

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well i did a couple rounds with mettle + warp speed

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and honestly it just

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sort of rarely mattered

lone wing
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anything else is a waste or straight up useless

deft stump
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6 stacks, edge to endlessness.

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Insta recast SG again.

thorn cedar
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oh yea i am basically never not in SG

deft stump
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30+up to 10 stacks.

thorn cedar
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which is why warp unbound

lone wing
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honestly

thorn cedar
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is being such a fucken bitch lately

lone wing
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not a shit build for fgs

thorn cedar
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like you can totally play around that bug but

lone wing
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bit weird but it can work

deft stump
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IDK, I did it with strike.

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Was funny.

thorn cedar
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it gets very hard to keep track of what part of sciers gaze im in when ive been gazing for 2 minutes straight

lone wing
deft stump
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Trying to keep above 60 but below 90 lul.

thorn cedar
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oh its very easy to trigger, its also not guaranteed to happen

lone wing
thorn cedar
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but next time you do warp unbound

lone wing
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had no issues on 120 ping

thorn cedar
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w/e staff you are using, or a high consuming peril effect

patent mango
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i've had it a few times with like 150 ish idk

thorn cedar
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cast when you hit 97/8%ish

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and the game wont know youre meant to be unexplodable yet

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so you explode

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with the buff sitting in your bar

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very fun

lone wing
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at 100% peril

thorn cedar
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yea do it at like 98

lone wing
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or spamming assail

thorn cedar
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if you hit 100% the buff is now applied and youre fine

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its just before you hit 100

lone wing
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that's probably why im not getting the bug

thorn cedar
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you dont have it yet

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and the game derps out so hard

lone wing
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i always wait for until scrier is over

thorn cedar
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when im using trauma to tempo crusher overheads away from the team

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i dont get to wait anymore

deft stump
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Is why edging at 30 stacks is fun but dangerous with a staff.

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You boom at wrong time? You go boom as well.

fathom adder
deft stump
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Just run without the condom and get used to it is probs safer.

thorn cedar
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oh im already used to it lol

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but i mean

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if it worked, wouldve been nice

deft stump
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Mhm.

strange spade
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Quick question. Leveling my Psyker now, using Assail. Can't quite swing both Empowered Psionics and True Aim just yet - that's gonna need a few more levels. Of the two, which is more important?

marble crater
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EP

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It's free assail, so you can throw more, for more damage and more dead enemies

strange spade
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Appreciated, thanks!

autumn lark
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Do not notice scrier stacks

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Instead focus on getting warp rider and unstable power to its max power

thorn cedar
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nah, you want all the buffs

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if youre built right you should hit 30 stacks pretty reliably and be able to stay at 30 stacks for at least a little while

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so thats 30 +10% from the scriers active

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and keep milking that crit chance

lone wing
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the best way to get full stacks is to completely ignore the counter

fringe garden
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Even if you dont get 30 stacks, any amount of attention you are paying to your stacks is attention better spent elsewhere

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Just let it happen

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Always gotta remember that attention span is a valuable and limited resource

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Be frugal with what you spend it on

haughty star
thorn cedar
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no flayer

deft stump
fringe garden
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For sure for sure

deft stump
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Not even crazy amounts of peril reduction will help, lul.

haughty star
autumn lark
deft stump
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But it gets harder the more stacks you have.

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Mistime, and you explode.

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And not even the condom will help you.

fringe garden
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And that stupid warp unbound bug

autumn lark
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ok what you do is get by crack of bone

deft stump
autumn lark
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and if you use the greatsword you should get a stack of 30 in a horde

thorn cedar
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youre actually free to use one attack at 100% when scriers ends, assuming you do it in 1.5s

fringe garden
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That sounds like a most excellent way to accidentally kill yourself, though.

thorn cedar
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kinda the opposite, its probably happened for you way more than you think

fringe garden
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If you are purposefully trying to use that 1.5 seconds it will get you killed

thorn cedar
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if you hear the "wooooph" sound for when scriers ends and youre already charging something you can just use it right then and there instead of stopping to quell

fringe garden
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It has certainly kept you from dying plenty of times, too, sure. But it's a grace period, not tech you should try to make use of

thorn cedar
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its tech you should make use of

deft stump
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Don't do it if you have 300 ping though.

fringe garden
haughty star
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Yeah the warp unbound "bug" only happens on bad ping servers for me

feral verge
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bruh

lone wing
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free damage

verbal thistle
deft stump
fringe garden
lyric burrow
verbal thistle
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beam and brain burst are my fav

lyric burrow
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when bolt staff for darktide

lone wing
vagrant onyx
fringe garden
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You're talking about Warp Unbound

deft stump
fringe garden
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Not the 1.5 second grace period at the end of SG

upper sun
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ah yes spawn of chaos not to be confused with "chaos spawn"

lone wing
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oh that

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yeah fuck that

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grace period is to keep you from dying

fringe garden
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Yeah, for sure

lone wing
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warp unbound is where you do the goofy shit

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my bad i read what you said wrong

fringe garden
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No problem

lone wing
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i thought it was another argument over warp unbound lol

verbal thistle
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they have the same moveset too

thorn cedar
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warp unbound gets its own 1.5s grace period at the end so

verbal thistle
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but different way to dodge the grab

lone wing
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command grab is a lot more dangerous in vt

upper sun
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as if theyre made by the same people 🤔

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chaos knight when?

verbal thistle
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tomorrow

upper sun
#

🫡

deft stump
upper sun
#

unironically port over all the staves

lone wing
#

would a chaos warrior make sense in dt?

upper sun
#

port over the whole game

verbal thistle
#

chaos marine

#

is what would be in DT

#

but that wont happen

lone wing
#

new boss would go hard

upper sun
#

err 🤓 well it would be a plague marine

lone wing
#

same shit

#

a plague marine is just a sect of chaos marine

verbal thistle
deft stump
#

Is more how they work.

upper sun
#

i want more bosses so we have a lower chance of BoN spawning

fringe garden
#

The Chaos Champion bosses were essentially equivalent to a Space Marine boss, that is true

lone wing
#

burgle is just boring

lone wing
deft stump
lone wing
#

the skittergate chaos lord boss i managed to kill with a few randoms before it transformed

fringe garden
#

I'd be down for a good Nurgle Sorceror boss, too

marble crater
lone wing
#

do not

#

those were annoying in vt

fringe garden
#

A flying boss, oh god, oh no

deft stump
verbal thistle
#

Chaos champions

lone wing
#

not again

verbal thistle
#

you mean this guy

#

he flys now

deft stump
#

But it's corruption circles that erupt.

lone wing
verbal thistle
#

seeing neo fly away is funny

#

end frame

vagrant onyx
vagrant onyx
#

At the very least

#

Add a weak spot in its mouth

#

Give me something to do when it's facing me

deft stump
mental grail
#

bro the modifier is pissing me off greatly

deft stump
#

Shoot the funny thing that comes out and the area there.

#

That's a weakspot, not as good as the back though.

hollow current
deft stump
#

Think it's like 250% vs 300% or so.

vagrant onyx
#

It's not active while it takes the 28384737273 years to approach though

haughty star
analog agate
#

I've learned inferno staff sucks as with a teamj who moves fast in havoc 40 lol. And doesn't try and hold a line ever

mental grail
fringe garden
#

Bubbling a BoN and then melee taking it to the face is a lot of fun

#

Just bop it in the head with the FGS a bunch of times

upper sun
#

@weary wave

#

bulwarks shields should be smashable

#

idc dont at me

verbal thistle
#

like

#

vermintide

vagrant onyx
lone wing
#

it's amazing how much better dt would be if there was more vt mechanics Kappa

upper sun
lone wing
#

yes

upper sun
#

what the fuck

haughty star
#

I hate vt2

lone wing
#

i love it

upper sun
#

why the fuck am i playing this shit then

deft stump
verbal thistle
#

not rot shields but infantry shield do break

lone wing
#

rot shields open fast though

verbal thistle
#

atleast rot shield have a way better stagger mechanic

hollow current
lone wing
#

shield vermin can explode

fringe garden
#

Yeah there isn't an analog for that in DT

upper sun
#

every other comment i make someone responds with "like in vt2" 😭

verbal thistle
#

yup

#

VT is just the better game

upper sun
#

😭

lone wing
#

he's out of line but he's right

hollow current
verbal thistle
#

thats it, send your StormFiend to orbit

deft stump
haughty star
#

I've tried like 10 hours of vt and it's just poopy to me

fringe garden
#

I havent played the new Sienna class

#

Looks dope, though

haughty star
#

No skill trees is garbage

verbal thistle
#

if you can play cata, DT is too easy

verbal thistle
#

have you tabbed over to the talent tree in your inventory

deft stump
#

IDK, some of them are just afk standing around clowning VT2.

verbal thistle
#

you can kill 1 of your 6 skeletons to reduce like 80% peril

fringe garden
#

Interesting

verbal thistle
#

the difficulty in VT is noncomparable to DT

summer prairie
#

I don't think base cata is even auric hi/shock level, you've to do mods/deeds/twitch in v2

lone wing
#

not played cata myself yet

#

but legend is harder than h20

verbal thistle
#

I think cata would be auric mael

#

difficulty can differ depending on director and map

lone wing
#

h20 is also a snoozefest but meh

summer prairie
#

v2 combat is harder but base intensity is low on cata

fringe garden
#

We have definitely seen a lot of power creep in DT that plays a big part in this

fathom adder
verbal thistle
#

There are still game differences, but if you can pub cata DT is easier

fringe garden
#

Duelling Sword for the masses is just the most recent egregious example of the power creep

verbal thistle
#

My experince is DT then VT

fathom adder
#

I did cata with pubs every time I played VT2 and it was a damn sight easier than Auric Maelstrom Damnation with pubs now, let alone Havoc

verbal thistle
#

even without 2k hours in DT I know DT is easier then VT

summer prairie
#

I had 2500h V2 and now around half of that in DT. I still think Cata is easier

verbal thistle
#

that makes sense though

#

having a ton of VT time makes the game easier since you understand it more

fringe garden
#

Then it also makes sense that you think DT is easier

verbal thistle
#

yup

#

baseline, without all the time in either game

summer prairie
#

well I actually played one pub game of V2 today after essentially not playing it after DT launch. It was still easy and not much happening

verbal thistle
#

asking a person with no tide experience, VT is more difficult

fringe garden
#

I would expect VT to have difficulty options that scale higher than what DT has, if only due to the game being older and more developed. I don't think it's a criticism of either game to say that.

summer prairie
#

in isolation everything in V2 is harder, but cata doesn't have enough spawns

lone wing
#

vt is hard to learn hard to master
dt is easy to learn hard to master

#

im saying this as someone who picked up dt no issue

#

then tried vt, hated it, then came back months later

fringe garden
#

Ones opinion on difficulty might have to do with how much you prefer ranged combat, too

fathom adder
#

tbf I haven't been back to VT2 since DT launch

fringe garden
#

Since there is a significant difference between the two games approach to that

verbal thistle
#

main reason for saying VT is harder is there are way less crutches

#

you dont have gold toughness

fringe garden
#

Both in how much ranged damage you ca deal and how much you can take/avoid

verbal thistle
#

or a trauma staff

hollow current
#

and there's jeff

blissful solar
#

vt also has friendly fire for some reason

verbal thistle
verbal thistle
fathom adder
deft stump
#

TO be fair, if they gave me dodge on bumper in VT2... Game wouldn't be as hard as i made it out to be.

#

Playing without dodge... YEAH.

autumn lark
fringe garden
#

You can play this game without dodge?

#

Is.. that even possible? lol

deft stump
#

VT2?

fathom adder
deft stump
#

I basically had to.

fringe garden
#

That's rough

deft stump
#

Controller dodge without any accessiblity things is next to useless.

#

You are just going to jump left or right ALL the time.

#

Good thing is you can block overheads which eats all your stam basically.

#

But yeah, compounded by playing cata at 600+ ping in VT2 is probs why the game is hard for me.

#

As said, undersea cables were ded then.

#

You could halve it by paying for a VPN but still.

agile laurel
#

i didn't know this was possible

agile laurel
#

4*80 + 61

#

but i am guessing it's no bueno ?

deft stump
#

Where pitchforks?

lone wing
#

chasm vent purge

#

i hate it here

autumn lark
#

its just a rounding error

#

the 1% doesnt exist

agile laurel
#

lol

#

fartshark...

fringe garden
#

It's an illusion!

agile laurel
#

but it's still cool to look at, truly a piece to collect

zinc phoenix
deft stump
#

Dumping finesse on DS is like... Jsut why?

agile laurel
#

i didn't buy it, i was just checking the stores

blissful solar
agile laurel
autumn lark
#

the creator of the m1 spam on staves

zinc phoenix
agile laurel
#

is there something else in this game that is fake / rounding error that i should know?

zinc phoenix
#

keep in mind, 8k hrs in two years is literally 40% of all hours during those years

deft stump
zinc phoenix
#

if you have a full time job with 40hr weeks you only spend 4k hours on it in two years

#

so he played darktide the equivalent of two full time jobs

#

thats fucking hilarious

autumn lark
zinc phoenix
#

luckily his anime waifu bodypillow is ok with it

fringe garden
#

Maaan, I love joining a game with a level 300+ zealot with a knife who just dashes ahead and immediately dies. How is that such a common meme? How are there so many people like that? lol

#

It must just be super fun

#

That's the only thing that makes sense

deft stump
#

Does running ahead but waiting at the first drop down or equiv count?

fringe garden
#

No no, thats chill

verbal thistle
#

they think they are better than what they actually are

lone wing
#

holy shit vent purge sucks

verbal thistle
#

main character syndrome

fringe garden
#

makes sense

lone wing
verbal thistle
#

he did not

hollow current
#

bro no you don't understand i can just hit shroudfield and be okay lol

deft stump
#

I mean, they also have loner, so... don't need teammates, RIGHT?

vagrant onyx
fathom adder
strange spade
#

Say what you will about being totally ineffectual - at least they're efficient about it

fringe garden
#

But that's not as fun as just joking about them

deft stump
#

Many just want to solo carry.

blissful solar
#

fotf sorta lends itself to the speed running attitude

nocturne dust
#

Clutching is satisfying. Not clutching is devastating. The calculus is easy.

autumn lark
#

not having to clutch is even more satisfying

marble crater
#

Not being in the position where you have to clutch is also satisfying KEKW_ogryn that's my favorite

fringe garden
#

It's the difference between an optimist and a pessimist lol

nocturne dust
nocturne dust
#

I don't enjoy clutching either, but it's undeniably satisfying to pull off. It's just the whole circus before it that is a problem for me KEKW_ogryn

blissful solar
#

clutching is the best. definitely can be frustrating when trapped or dogged or when your team wipes when you didn't expect it and are out of position

nocturne dust
#

the best is working as an efficient and coordinated team where everyone always picks different targets to oneshot chadgryn

marble crater
blissful solar
#

pubs can often barely even turn around properly, such a thing is expecting too much

nocturne dust
#

most clutches are very minor

#

some clutches everyone dies and then you have to sprint across twelve miles of nurgle infested sewage water

deft stump
#

Some is just making your way to the 'safe' rescue. Just don't get netted or dogged inbetween.

marble crater
#

So only two people being alive doesn't count?

nocturne dust
#

you have to be solo

#

that is what makes it a clutch

marble crater
#

I'm not good at that then staregryn

#

Unless things are manageable and I'm not trapped in a room of fire with a boss KEKW_ogryn

nocturne dust
#

Few people are. I can't do it in Havoc 40s at all, but I can do it pretty consistently in Aurics (but only once per match if it's a big clutch cuz it takes way too much concentration and I get tired KEKW_ogryn )

#

It's mostly about just playing super safe and having a plan to escape to somewhere at all times

#

and of course being alert 100% of the time so nothing gets the drop on you ever

clear heath
#

usually the situation is pretty fucked if everyone's dying in high havoc

upper sun
#

havoc is legit tiresome

clear heath
#

highest i've clutched is like low 30s i think, but that was just running circles around smelter end event with a knife

lone wing
#

clad, duo civi when? Troll

nocturne dust
#

Yeah, if everyone is dying in Havoc the clutch is 100x harder

upper sun
nocturne dust
#

because normally people are bringing their A-game and trying their best for Havoc

lone wing
autumn lark
#

solo havoc 40 clutch is nigh impossible

lone wing
#

i want this civi done

nocturne dust
#

I've seen small Havoc 40 clutches

clear heath
#

I think the easiest clutches to pull off are just the easy end events
Like i'm sure i'll pull off a few 40 clutches in archivem eventually. The last area just isn't hard

upper sun
#

lemme smoke a cig and mentally prepare

lone wing
#

aight

upper sun
#

fyi

lone wing
#

trust im not aids

#

i swear

upper sun
#

i ate like 5 cookies today

#

and a fuck ton of coffee

clear heath
#

the big open areas with just infinite hordes that you can loop around are just easy clutches

lone wing
#

so you're on crack

upper sun
#

this will either go very well or very bad

marble crater
#

You will get netted, Vodka will try to save you and die

lone wing
#

it'll be fine trust

#

just hope we dont get "oops all ragers" or "oops all dogs"

deft stump
agile laurel
#

if only there was a smite spammer to stun them all 👀 don't tell me they are immune

lone wing
#

all dogs and ragers

#

got flattened in a pub before mid event

deft stump
#

Yes, but them spawning at the same time.

marble crater
#

Why did you not just kill the ragers and dogs? wtfgryn

agile laurel
#

i am pacifist

marble crater
#

If you don't want to kill enemies of the imperium, you must be an enemy of the imperium

upper sun
#

@lone wingready

#

btw

#

now you can change height without paying 50k

lone wing
#

oh nice

upper sun
#

yeah

#

theres like an optimal height where i can do melee KEKW_ogryn

broken carbon
upper sun
marble crater
#

What's the height staregryn

upper sun
lone wing
marble crater
upper sun
#

i have slightly above average

marble crater
#

That doesn't help throwing

upper sun
#

its free

#

change it until you find something you like

marble crater
#

No, decide for me

upper sun
#

no

marble crater
clear heath
#

just max height

tepid python
upper sun
#

i think im too hungry to function anymore tbh

lone wing
#

im also starving

#

now that you mention it

hollow current
upper sun
#

i was resing the one person with kraks and a chain weapon

sturdy reef
upper sun
sturdy reef
#

fuck em

deft stump
#

Kraks.

sturdy reef
#

I was 2 away from getting shocking stuff

#

I need more bot lobbies

radiant frigate
weary crane
#

Yeah that damn shield Sitgryn

#

I use electro to open it but its only 1 and has limited distance and time

agile laurel
#

the Emperor hates me

deft stump
#

Why brunt exists.

weary crane
#

I dump cleave on greatsword whatthefuck_heresy

agile laurel
#

i bought like 25-30 from brunt

#

i am poor af right now

deft stump
weary crane
#

The only 80 80 80 80 61 weapon i have is rumbler KEKW_ogryn

#

Oh but i do have a 62 laspistol

sturdy reef
#

I got 38 the previous game

marble crater
#

Shocking stuff is such a fun penance

cold trellis
#

If you wanna finish it asap: do a private match on mercantile (high intensity), stack up the endless hordes in the very beginning and finish it in 10sec. Same as ogryns bullrush penance

scarlet umbra
#

is it though?

scarlet umbra
#

Genius

#

Wait. I tried that. The zealot one for sure but

cold trellis
#

I did with a friend, we both got both penances (zealot stun and ogryn bullrush) in about 5-10min total time investment

scarlet umbra
#

I’m about to cry at you

slow wharf
#

a private match means I need friends though, right? eheh
I got shocking stuff on my own by doing twins mission, when both show up there's a lot of hordes that show up. so stun grenade and flamer did it

#

I don't think I even finished the mission, I think I got the penance and then died

marble crater
#

Not friends necessarily, just another person to start a private mission KEKW_ogryn

sturdy reef
#

both of those penances are such a pita

upper sun
#

i got shocking stuff by having agent go afk in chasm station middle event and letting me dance around the event for 20 minutes collecting a big hoard

sturdy reef
#

lol

upper sun
#

not kidding

scarlet umbra
#

I’d honestly go on a penance crusade with whoever if they wanna. I still need my psyker armor and a couple others

upper sun
#

theres a screenshot somewhere of a high intensity malice game with me and agent with like 6 deaths

upper sun
scarlet umbra
#

I don’t have friends (who also have this game) KEKW_ogryn

upper sun
#

we can do it now

slow wharf
#

put me in, coach!

upper sun
#

or whenever

scarlet umbra
#

I need both of the private ones but I’m not gonna suffer someone through the zealot game

#

I’m game

#

Uhh

upper sun
#

🤔

scarlet umbra
#

8813962877

upper sun
#

@slow wharf@scarlet umbra i think we can do a double

#

do you guys have builds for it?

scarlet umbra
#

Yessir

slow wharf
#

for shocking stuff, I already have it so I can just toss stun grenades and not kill anything
or play psyker and do smite?

scarlet umbra
#

Brain burst / empowered psyonics / shriek

slow wharf
#

oh wait, maybe I'm thinking of something else

upper sun
young cliff
#

what blessings i should look to get for the heavy laspistol?

upper sun
#

dumdum inferno prolly

scarlet umbra
#

Dumdum inferno does wonders

young cliff
#

its fire rate doesnt inspire me to that blessings, the gun has good crit rate but not that great fire rate, are you sure?

scarlet umbra
#

Inferno has a cap, dumdum is easy damage

upper sun
#

my curio is bugged staregryn

scarlet umbra
#

I also think desperado is silly fun but I’m not allowed into Starbucks

#

Don’t ask

upper sun
#

@slow wharfdo you need the psyker private penance?

slow wharf
#

yep, I havne't done it yet - but if I can do it solo then it's cool if we do something else

#

following yalls lead

marble crater
#

You can't do it solo

slow wharf
#

oh right - private game lol

marble crater
#

This guy

marble crater
#

Clad trying to break his record for most penances helped at the same time chadgryn

hearty wolf
scarlet umbra
#

Godspeed

slow wharf
upper sun
scarlet umbra
#

please father your cöde

slow wharf
#

err... looking up how to find it now

upper sun
#

may i have some codes...

#

yeah

#

press escape social then find player

#

it should show your code there

slow wharf
#

1733686885

#

thanks 🙂

deft stump
tepid python
vernal temple
#

Can anyone please share a build for purgatus (preferably with bubble) that is suited for damnation/aurics? I never really gave the purgatus any love and would like to properly try it out

analog agate
#

You can drop points at multiple places to pick up warp stealer or warp battery if you want

vernal temple
#

seems nice, what perks/blessings are preferable on the staff?

analog agate
#

Flak and crit chance/maniac/unyielding and blaze away plus nexus

vernal temple
#

Thank you

steep loom
#

U will feel a lot better if you take venting shriek and dont take empyric resolve

#

You get so many warp charges from in fire reborn you never have to worry about blowing up and almost always have vent up

analog agate
#

ER better than a broken node thumbsup_ogryn

steep loom
#

Plus it overcaps the max soulblaze stacks so you will melt everything in front of you if you pop it after a full charge from your staff

#

No it really isnt

#

You want high peril

analog agate
#

Cool. Stay at high peril then. Not like his bubble will knock him out of it

steep loom
#

ER is so abysmally bad

analog agate
#

Lol you do you bro

marble crater
#

ER is awesome, what's with the slander? KEKW_ogryn

strong gulch
#

I take ER on inferno in havocs. I don't take it on inferno in non-havocs.

strong gulch
#

ER isn't bad, but it should work in your build.

#

Also yes, fecking broken node.

#

please fatshark.

marble crater
#

I take ER on EVERYTHING staregryn

analog agate
#

Cause ER is 👍

scarlet umbra
#

@upper sun promise I didn’t bail. Got locked at a loading screen, restarting

upper sun
#

😭

steep loom
#

You simply do not need empyric resolve if you run warp charges on purg staff and are gimping your toughness regen for no reason

upper sun
#

yeah

#

happens

#

fatshark moment

strong gulch
#

I take ER for trauma and surge. Peril gen is strong in those 2 staves.

steep loom
#

ER is justifiable on shock staff

analog agate
#

Give the guy an alt tree if you want. I will never give someone a broken node in a build

steep loom
#

ER is so bad on purg staff its better to take a broken node

deft stump
strong gulch
#

BUT I also don't take ER on purg because of a personal foible. I try to keep peril gen fairly even across my staff builds because I don't mentally adapt well to the peril changes.

marble crater
#

Yeah, not having ER after being used to it is pain

scarlet umbra
hearty wolf
upper sun
#

you missed it

scarlet umbra
#

I got sent to SPACE

marble crater
upper sun
#

we got 3 bosses in the first section

scarlet umbra
#

y’all sent me out of the airlock- no way? Did y’all get it?

slow wharf
#

yep 🙂

last shore
upper sun
#

guys?

marble crater
#

What are we doing?

deft stump
blissful solar
#

any gamers gaming

last shore
deft stump
#

Pretty sure you don't want to deal with a no damage chorus Zealot anyway.

marble crater
upper sun
#

@marble crater sorry for dragging you

#

we had trouble with shocking stuff

marble crater
#

It's okay, I forgive you

deft stump
#

And you didn't tell me you wanted to just lvl up so I just run around 'nading random things for weeklies?

marble crater
#

Shocking stuff is pain, whose idea was that penance, how are you supposed to get it naturally KEKW_ogryn

deft stump
#

Luck. Crazy luck.

marble crater
deft stump
#

Also, nobody is playing in SEA at the weird ass hour anyway.

#

Is how the two of us get games where nobody joins so we do stupid things anyway.

hearty wolf
#

gloriana

deft stump
deft stump
torn kernel
#

Hii

deft stump
#

But yeah, ypu can't play so... back to rolling around till I go nap.

quartz barn
#

sea gaming hours

#

but its like 8 am

torn kernel
#

Lmao mood

dark swift
#

Hey guys, I just got back into the game and I'm going through my inventory. When I was gone, the Lock and Loaded update lets you change weapons to any mark and was wondering if I should discard 2 of my swords while keeping one of them?

deft stump
quartz barn
#

ngl i thought the time difference was bigger

deft stump
dark swift
marble crater
quartz barn
#

yours are almost maxed out already

deft stump
deft stump
#

It can even happen at 490.

quartz barn
#

the second number is the highest it can go for that weapon

deft stump
torn kernel
#

Can confirm

#

We're all nocturnal in SEA

deft stump
#

I'm actually starting to get tired now so...

#

Only up cos AFKJ next area release in 30 mins.

#

And I just still play for the story.

hearty wolf
#

I used to play AFKA

#

Way too much

deft stump
#

I quit that though. Just got annoying tbh.

#

AFKJ is starting to be that way to get you to spend badly.

#

Good thing Lily and Odie still just wrecks anything the story throws at you anyway.

#

They become immune on hitting 0 and heal? Dunked before by poison.

deft stump
# weary idol huh

I lost 3 bolt pistols to it, my first Agri shotgun and a few melees. I'll use my shotgun as example. I found a mobility dump shotgun. I took it to hadron to max it out. It ended up as 61% mobility and 79% ammo. This is actually bad on the shotgun. that 1% is 1 ammo in clip difference.

torn kernel
#

Just reload more smh

deft stump
#

And no, it was not visual. It actually meant my ammo clip was 12. I made another, maxed it and it's 13.

deft stump
torn kernel
deft stump
#

I think I told you before.

silver mantle
#

so had my first accidental braining

#

electro staff lmb spam with a 0% warp res staff

vernal temple
#

oof

silver mantle
#

had 2 downs

#

both me braining myself

hearty wolf
#

@strong gulch kill rat?

strong gulch
hearty wolf
#

Any1 else for vermintide?

#

Is easy

#

It's like malice

strong gulch
#

@nocturne dust Do you have VT2 or have any interest in playing it?

hearty wolf
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:(

hearty wolf
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That is one half of the answer

nocturne dust
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Been a long time since I played it tho

hearty wolf
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The second is coming

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It's okay

nocturne dust
hearty wolf
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It's genuinely braindead easy

nocturne dust
hearty wolf
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if you would like to come

strong gulch
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Yesterday was the first time sin and I played VT2 in at least a year.

hearty wolf
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@nocturne dust do you have it installed rn

nocturne dust
hearty wolf
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we can wait

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come come