psyker-class

[sharp pike]

you tryna hop on?

[strong gulch]

like #psyker-class message

[hearty wolf]

Psyker levelling

is dog shit

which is why

Like it's way worse than any other class

by a huge margin

also

[sharp pike]

it feels so bad

[hearty wolf]

I wonder howmuch better thammer is st than relic blade

for bosses

[sharp pike]

force greatsword only thing keeping me going

[hearty wolf]

Once you hit 30 and have your masteries

Psyker gets kind of silly broken at times

[sharp pike]

i see that in havoc and in maelstroms

[hearty wolf]

yup, it likes higher density mobs

so low havoc can be kinda painful

[strong gulch]

Yeah. A lot of psyker weapons and talents scale with density.

BUT a lot of psyker weapons are also doodoo until high stats and investment.

[nocturne dust]

and psyker is more reliant on their weapons for peak performance than other classes as well

[hearty wolf]

On the weekend, guess I'll test ttks for relic blade and t hammer

[last shore]

Ngl that didn’t make sense

[hearty wolf]

and maybe some other weps

[last shore]

All classes are reliant on their weapons

[hearty wolf]

That's

Not what he said

He said psyker is MORE reliant

[last shore]

Like min maxing stats?

[hearty wolf]

Not just that but blessings and perks

[calm sapphire]

Smyker moment

[hearty wolf]

Your talents on psyker tend to have a snowball effect rather than straight up stat bonuses.

So to kill targets, you're relying more on your weapon cos your talent tree isn't giving you as much

Vet for example just has +30% weakspot damage cooked in

Zealot has duelist

and fury of the faithful

etc etc

[last shore]

Yeah you don’t need to explain it anymore

Just worded funny to me is all

[nocturne dust]

technically, blitzes are class-exclusive weapons

or rather, practically

[analog agate]

I’ll make a plasma and recon lasgun build for vet

[hearty wolf]

sounds good

I think recon lasgun mayb works better with my playstyle since you'll be more ammo efficient and I'm using thammer atm for armour

But idk

Not using book is weird

I have less time to shoot things than I usually would

The pause game button has been disabled

Maybe I need to run shroudfield instead...

[uneven gull]

What blessings do I want on the flame staff thing

[analog agate]

Blaze away/nexus

[uneven gull]

Kinda what I figured. Thanks

[vagrant onyx]

Nexus goes crazy with mettle at the top of the tree

[unborn iron]

Are all of the staffs on the same level or are some just better than others? Ive been leveling my psyker and have been enjoying the voidblast staff for the cc it gives to crushers and heavier units as such but am unsure which is best/worth invest at first

[analog agate]

For regular gameplay they are all good. Voidstrike lags behind. The other 3 all are on equal terms

[unborn iron]

Sweet, thank you, been having fun with psyker a lot

[wet charm]

squeak (in rat's opinion, the trauma staff is by far the best followed by purgatus)

squeak (although it is hard to master for the trauma staff to be better than purgatus)

[nocturne dust]

Purgatus is the highest damage, Trauma is the safest, EK is the most consistent.

At least for auric. In Havoc, EK can fall behind.

[strong gulch]

Purg and trauma are pretty strong on their own compared to EK too.

[nocturne dust]

Purgatus does have problems in auric tho if the players are skilled enough to prevent targets from getting close

[strong gulch]

ye

[analog agate]

I only use EK and VB in aurics. Aye

[wispy bay]

EK doesn't have enough multi target hit for havoc.

[wet charm]

squeak (yus, that is the main problem with EK)

squeak (but the stagger is what makes trauma the best staff across all difficulties)

[analog agate]

Using EK in havoc is acting as the anti-shooter with some horde clear

And it can work quite well

[wet charm]

squeak (often you must rely on your team quite with the purgatus, but with trauma, you can strike out on your own and hold your ground against anything) 😄

[wispy bay]

Inferno also stuns if you hit them enough.

[nocturne dust]

?

Inferno is fine solo

in fact, it prefers solo in Auric

[wispy bay]

You can quell cancel on M1 and stun close to everything.

[nocturne dust]

It still stuns most enemies and even if it doesn't, you still have dodges and other shenanigans. Definitely less safe, but higher damage.

[wanton iron]

dump stat for relic sword?

[nocturne dust]

warp res

[wet charm]

squeak (it is a bit difficult to explain, but the best way rat internalises it is how much space it can create, especially against heavier elites)

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, that's safety

[wispy bay]

Relic or FGS?

[nocturne dust]

through stagger

[last shore]

Is no one weirded out by how he’s role playing a rat or is this normal in this server

[nocturne dust]

wait

relic

[wanton iron]

dump stat for surge staff?

[nocturne dust]

This is the internet

[wet charm]

squeak :3

[wispy bay]

Relic sword has warp res now? /S

[nocturne dust]

I saw someone who once typed out a scottish accent

[last shore]

True. I can tell it’s gonna get old. Easy block 💀

[last shore]

How did that go

[wispy bay]

Too tired to care.

[analog agate]

A lot of guys in ogryn chat (and ogryn players in general) role play as ogryn 🤷‍♂️

[nocturne dust]

They were very.... lacking in communication skills

[last shore]

I see

[sturdy reef]

scot'ish

idfk

lol

[analog agate]

Michael caine’s accent saying michael caine. My cocaine

[nocturne dust]

They pretended like it was something they'd learned/picked up

[strong gulch]

EK with shriek (always shriek bc ofc) is strong even in havoc, but I would taking it as the only psyker.

[wanton iron]

electrokinetic dump stat*

[strong gulch]

WR

[clear heath]

Did you guys get that true survivor?

[strong gulch]

warp resist

[wanton iron]

k

[strong gulch]

no

[analog agate]

So close

[nocturne dust]

[analog agate]

Twice

[nocturne dust]

I true survived

[wispy bay]

My auric build for EK and Inferno is the same, just change the staff.

[wanton iron]

does warp resistance do anything for staffs?

[last shore]

I run assail/DD build with EK and GS

Goes nutty

[strong gulch]

I goofed one time but the others something always happened. Like sword captain doing his T-pose unblockable thing, lag spikes, silent burster, etc.

[sturdy reef]

I have a chasm logistratum if you wanna try on that

[strong gulch]

It mitigates peril generation but scales poorly, plus there are peril mitigation nodes through the talent tree.

[wanton iron]

I see, and best blessings for relic sword?

[wispy bay]

I did a few no down run h40. Then the other day, I got insanr lag and got called "fake survivor"...

[strong gulch]

Thanks for the offer. I am about to eat dinner.

[analog agate]

Cranial grounding and either heatsink or wrath depending on havoc

[sturdy reef]

I do rampage

[wanton iron]

non havoc?

[analog agate]

Or rampage

[sturdy reef]

for the strength

same

[wispy bay]

Logistrtum is one of the worst havoc map.

[analog agate]

Cranial grounding and rampage/heatsink for auric. Don’t really need wrath

[strong gulch]

wrath, unstable, and either crit blessings are to most popular for FGS

force great sword

[wanton iron]

force greatsword blessings?

[wispy bay]

FGS blessings suck hard except for these 2.

[analog agate]

What Potato just said

[strong gulch]

wrath, unstable, and either crit blessings are to most popular for FGS

[wispy bay]

Relic blade has a few options.

[wanton iron]

was checking for rampage but, thats a zealot blessing right?

[prime elk]

FGS doesn't get it

[wispy bay]

Weapon blessing is not limited by classes.

[nocturne dust]

blessings are weapon-specific, not class-specific

[shadow wigeon]

is Kinetic Flayer proccing on push a new thing? I keep popping bursters with it on push, and I can't recall it being like this before...

[wispy bay]

Yes

Pushing does 1 damage

[nocturne dust]

no

it doesn't proc on push

[analog agate]

Tbf… KF procced on everything. So it wasn’t as noticeable

[nocturne dust]

it procs on the force push attack

which does 1 damage

and is not new

[strong gulch]

force melee weapon push attack can proc KF because it does damage. Not just pushing

[nocturne dust]

if you just do a push with a force weapon, you're safe

if you do a push attack, you are not safe (but you shouldn't be doing a push attack anyway)

(cuz if that push attack doesn't register or hits the wrong target, you're stuck in the animation and screwed)

[vagrant onyx]

Yeah just don't spam the push, the follow up that causes peril can proc your flayer

[nocturne dust]

Do spam push, don't hold push

[vagrant onyx]

Yeah that

[shadow wigeon]

Don't have that issue, about missing target, I use fpush attack a lot out of habit making room. I must not use KF very often... although I know that's not true, I'm surprised how often it's proccing on bursters now.
But I am using it on Surge (for the first time), which has fewer attacks, so I am putting the odds against me

[nocturne dust]

The push attack is single target

Even if you are always dead on, at some point something is going to happen to move in the way despite your best efforts

Or Fatshark's servers will simply deny you

[minor wedge]

Is there a good build to get the "kinetic thingamabop" effect penance done?

[vagrant onyx]

What's it called

[shadow wigeon]

It rarely goes wrong, and it's just fun to knock people over. I just rarely match that play style with KF, if I ever have

[nocturne dust]

🤷‍♂️ do what you want, just saying it's a bad idea for effectiveness

[potent echo]

Push attack is good for crushers and bulwarks and maybe ragers

[shadow wigeon]

2500 hours on psyker more here for the memes now

yeah very fun to knock over crushers etc.

[nocturne dust]

yes

[potent echo]

Play the new modifier

10billion ogryns

[nocturne dust]

lmao pulling out the hours card

[potent echo]

Gets crazy

[nocturne dust]

I was only referring to bursters in particular 🤷‍♂️

[potent echo]

Bursters I enjoy the extra push from the PA

[shadow wigeon]

I was just giving you context for how I play

that's all

[potent echo]

Sometimes it makes the difference

[nocturne dust]

[vagrant onyx]

What do you find yourself using now

[minor wedge]

The very left aura on psyker

Kinetic something something

[covert umbra]

Howdy fellas, Lingering Influence or Perfectionism?

[nocturne dust]

Lingering

[jovial juniper]

L influence

[thorn cedar]

learn with lingering

[covert umbra]

Kinetic Presence

[minor wedge]

^that one

[covert umbra]

Looking at it now in build

[nocturne dust]

Prescience?

[minor wedge]

I need to get 2500 kills under the effect of kinetic presence

then my psyker is done

Elite kills even wtf

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah necessary to change what im doing for bursters

[minor wedge]

XD

ooooh

i know

I just adjust my shield psyker

flame staff and directional shield should be a good measure for this

[nocturne dust]

Eh

dunno why you would take wall over bubble

[minor wedge]

Because bubble doesnt make chargers bonk its head

*muties

[nocturne dust]

I dunno how that changes anything

Personally, I would just run whatever and just add KP in

[minor wedge]

Cause it stuns ALL specialists

So bursters, hounds, muties

[nocturne dust]

I dunno how that changes anything

[last shore]

Dang. I only have 170 hours in this game.

[nocturne dust]

Inferno stuns most specialists as well

[last shore]

Started a month and half ago

[analog agate]

Game has been out for over 2 years

[nocturne dust]

The only one that's really a threat is muties

[minor wedge]

I dunno. I think its fun

Also bursters get ridiculously far thrown back by it

[nocturne dust]

🤷‍♂️ Then do it

[minor wedge]

They touch it and stagger backwards for half an hour

quite hillarious

[nocturne dust]

Just sounded like you had a particular strategy in mind is all

[covert umbra]

It also hurts the shield.
So be careful about that

[last shore]

Can’t you just primary fire and back dodge pox bursters with flame staff

[minor wedge]

I mean yeah

But in buzy situations its sometimes easier to throw down a wall

and be safe from at least that one direction

[last shore]

I mean

This is flame staff gameplay

[minor wedge]

I use flamestaff WITH it

[last shore]

https://tenor.com/view/spin-record-cat-gif-21749933

[minor wedge]

^^

Also, nothing brings me more joy than when I do maelstroms

with the hordes of muties mod

and pop down a wall

and they all bonk their head

hillarious

[wispy bay]

Shield wall is much stronger in auric vs havoc.

[last shore]

I just run assail and EK staff and just dodge primary fire muties with that modifier

[minor wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/excited-dance-warriors-war-battle-gif-13209293

[wispy bay]

It can kill the busters, which is a nice fire and forget for me.

[minor wedge]

^what it feels like to stand behind the wall and stab things outside of it

^^

THANKYOU Deino. Exactly

[sharp pike]

whats the blaze force gs blessings to run?

[nocturne dust]

wrath, unstable power, shred, riposte

pick 2

[sharp pike]

riposte is a given

shit is op

uhh

[nocturne dust]

To each their own

[sharp pike]

unstable power seems good

[analog agate]

I do wrath and unstable. But I use it in havoc

[nocturne dust]

I use wrath and unstable or wrath and shred

[analog agate]

And need wrath cause I don’t go right side

[sharp pike]

ill prolly go wrath

good

whats the best staff to pair w it?

i was thinking blast or ek

[last shore]

EK aye

[analog agate]

I use it with ek

[last shore]

Any staff that doesn’t have horde clear

So that would be EK

[sharp pike]

whats its dump?

[last shore]

Warp

[sharp pike]

gotcha

[last shore]

Basically what your primary weapon doesn’t do, you take the melee that compensates for it

[sharp pike]

alr

psykers the last char im doing so im still learning him

[last shore]

First char for me and only one atm

[nocturne dust]

It's a general enough weapon that you can run it with any staff

but yes, EK probably appreciates it most

[nocturne dust]

🤓 Staves are secondary weapons

[last shore]

For me, since I’m staff 90% of the time, I consider it a primary

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, I get that

[sharp pike]

still thinking what build I wanna use

[last shore]

Play them all

Psyker is a fun one

[sharp pike]

ik but

what to run generally

[potent echo]

FGS bistol assail

[sharp pike]

i wanna use smite but dont have a build

[sharp pike]

okay~

!

[last shore]

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-monkey-puppet-meme-awkward-gif-7127558666087764733

[sharp pike]

tilde jumpscare!

[nocturne dust]

KD-lacking son-of-a-

[analog agate]

You know me 😎

[last shore]

KD kinda needed for FGS

[analog agate]

Nah

[last shore]

But for like DS, not needed

[analog agate]

I also gave him a smite build. KD won’t ever be needed

[clever summit]

Wow running heresy is a lot more easier as a Psyker

Crowd Control: The Class

[analog agate]

He can put KD on instead of wild fire or maybe empyric resolve though

[clever summit]

Assail is BUSTED

[sharp pike]

last question what curios should I run? 2 toughness 1 health or?

[nocturne dust]

wat no

[last shore]

I run 2 toughness and +3 stam

[nocturne dust]

Battle Meditation is right there

[sharp pike]

alr

[analog agate]

Oh yeah. I forgot I had it in that lmao

[nocturne dust]

Assail is stronger at lower levels (because it doesn't scale down)

[wind spruce]

Not really

[nocturne dust]

KD is never needed

but nothing is really needed sooooooo

KD is incredibly useful tho

[wind spruce]

Just dodge, scrubs

[wispy bay]

Once assails needs 2 to 3 hit to kill special, it is nerfed hard.

[sharp pike]

whats kd?

[analog agate]

It is a clutch revive talent

[wind spruce]

You are correct

[last shore]

I mean it’s what clutched it for me vs a full HP plague ogryn boss and a horde with 3 dead teammates on EK staff with assail and FGS 🤷‍♂️

[nocturne dust]

Kinetic Deflection

The block with peril node

[wind spruce]

Plague ogryns are the easiest to dodge lmao

[sharp pike]

oh i see

[last shore]

Maybe should read what I said fully

[wind spruce]

Nah I'm good

[last shore]

👍

[minor wedge]

mk4 is the DS that you want, right?

[nocturne dust]

yes

[minor wedge]

Funny... i got a mk10 from the armory

XD

[wind spruce]

Mk4 is the DS your bf/gf tells you not to worry about

[wind spruce]

No you didn't

[minor wedge]

Uh mk2

level 10

is what I meant

LOL

[wind spruce]

[minor wedge]

Pretty ok blessings too I would argue

Just need to swap the mark and then upgrade

https://tenor.com/view/chris-pratt-ohh-excited-gif-14391094

I love these

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/very-very-critical-critical-very-serious-crucial-extreme-gif-15308237

[minor wedge]

woah

what

I just onetapped a bulwark with that thing

usualy even the deimos cant do that

hmm

this warants testing in the meatgrinder

[vagrant onyx]

Did someone say BOOM

Imagine it was Gloriana

[minor wedge]

Now I want that

jeezus 😮

That is so much damage

[deft stump]

It trades mobility for damage, what did you expect?

[minor wedge]

The DS trades mobility?

I feel super agile with that thing

[strong gulch]

A properly built DS has some of psyker's higher boss damage.

[minor wedge]

Is there a way to make the bullwark in testing put his shield away?

[strong gulch]

Boss meaning unyielding. Which that's what bulwarks are.

[minor wedge]

Okay, nevermind

I stand corrected

Deimos can do it too

just needs longer for it

[strong gulch]

Away? No but you can use the DS special to the head (even through a shield) to open the bulwark (knock shield away from body). You can also use a different weapon that does this.

[deft stump]

Wait, I thought you mean FGS?

I'm going back to bed.

[minor wedge]

Hmm

I spam the special but it doesnt break its shield

am i doing something wrong?

[strong gulch]

Aim at the head.

You can also just do it from the side.

[deft stump]

I clearly just need more sleep after that incident.

[strong gulch]

Where the shiekd isn't in the way

[minor wedge]

Okay but through the shield should work you say?

[deft stump]

If it's DS4, not even increased impact on Zealot makes that work.

Just need to dodge shuffle to the left twice and poke or wait, dodge and poke.

[deft stump]

GL if there's multiple.

[strong gulch]

DS special to the head goes through shield.

If you hit the head, the bulwark will be staggered.

It's not the most realisitic or easy thing to do tho.

[deft stump]

It's harder to hit when you have 4 of them on you.

[strong gulch]

We are talking about doing it in the meat grinder as a quick opener. Not combat.

[nocturne dust]

You can pierce the shield due to weapon length sometimes

[strong gulch]

Aim higher

[deft stump]

I guess, but it isn't really realistic in situations tbh.

[minor wedge]

Nevermind, just had to get RIGHT up in its face

[strong gulch]

yes

[strong gulch]

Yes it is. Again, quick opener in the meatgrinder.

Though I have used it in combat because I was impatient.

[minor wedge]

Okay yeah

about the same ttk as deimos

Just hits a LOT faster

for a little less as the powered demios hit

So less commitment to be stuck

beautiful

[strong gulch]

What do you mean to be stuck?? Are you regularly using the deimos special instead of the heavy 2?

[minor wedge]

Yes?

[strong gulch]

Try the H2. The L1H2 loop.

[deft stump]

Why are you even stroking the Deimos???

[nocturne dust]

[strong gulch]

Most people rarely use the deimos special.

[nocturne dust]

Deimos never wants to use its special outside of very specific, safe circumstances

[deft stump]

Only sword stroking is done to Illisi reeeeeeeeeeee and the great swords.

[strong gulch]

It does have a time and place or if you just wanna, but it's the least strokable of the force swords (including great swords).

[strong gulch]

😭

[clear heath]

imagine using the force part of the force sword

[deft stump]

You still force push.

[nocturne dust]

the special is lower dps than spamming heavies

[strong gulch]

True

[deft stump]

And pray you don't KF the boomer.

[nocturne dust]

well maybe don't force push the boomer

[strong gulch]

also true lamo

wait

lmao

nailed it

[deft stump]

Maybe you should push it then, hrm?

[nocturne dust]

No, I'll let you get exploded

[strong gulch]

Just force push it on cool down

because I accidentally PA a lot. 😭

[deft stump]

Another person to never play with. Hrm.

[deft stump]

That requires luck. My KF are usually on the worst targets.

The nearly dead main target of my EK? Yep. That totally near death whatever my EK jumped on to? Yep. The smallest thing my Strike boom booms into?

[minor wedge]

I wonder if I could run that DS on my gunker

[strong gulch]

A lot of people do.

Especially before FGS.

[minor wedge]

FGS with scriers is insanely fun though

[deft stump]

I just don't dare bring that cancer of a build into a live game lul.

[minor wedge]

why?

[deft stump]

I made a hilariously silly build.

SG with Warp Syphon with the lowered peril gain node.

Well, it kinda works, but that build mean 0 toughness regen.

It's like a worse ver of my first vent ek build.

[fathom adder]

The pox burster you merely pushed

[deft stump]

Look, we already knew about that one.

[fathom adder]

It bears repeating, I stopped taking KF entirely until that gets fixed

[minor wedge]

Okay

bad habit from forcesword use

Because all my forceswords have deflect

I just sprinted at a gunner with my DS4 in hand

blocking

XD

i proceeded to eat a good mouthfull of ground immediately

[deft stump]

Oh right, that bit.

I suggest weird angle crabshuffle with dodge.

Just hope you can poke heds with agile on the way to keep doing it.

Or use staff, I guess.

[strong gulch]

Sprint slide then special

[wispy bay]

I like mk2. It is the most versatile ds.

It can do both thrust reset and sweep.

[deft stump]

Fine, that also works.

[strong gulch]

I see some players always do the H1 S loop on DS4, and idk why they just don't switch to the DS2.

[wispy bay]

Because Youtube tells them to use it I guess...

[lavish glade]

if i recal mk2 lights also do slightly more dmg

[strong gulch]

They are at the very least faster, broader, and you get more of them through the light spam move set.

[wispy bay]

Mk4 is just easier to play with.

[deft stump]

No think, just heavy big guys.

[nocturne dust]

mk4 has better single target

you don't use ds lights anyway

[wispy bay]

If you do H1 S on mk2, then they are about the same.

[nocturne dust]

close, but it's still worse

[deft stump]

Yes, but that's one extra button to press.

[shadow wigeon]

Surge (Electro) has always been top pick for me since launch, although I had to take a long break from just playing too much, and then a lot of fire trauma. For havoc 35+ it's trauma/bubble, and for fun scrier's void or just scrier's + anything, although I've never kept any of the memiest builds for that long in the end.

[wispy bay]

Do you guys run Perfect Timing often?

[strong gulch]

Nearly always.

I think it's on all of my builds, but I remember skipping it one time.

[potent echo]

True

I only skip perfect timing on smite brainrot builds

[hearty wolf]

I can't put my finger on what perfect timing is

[strong gulch]

crits make warp attacks stronger

[deft stump]

Omg, brute and stg only???

[deft stump]

No bloody blindness???

[hearty wolf]

Ah yes

Bzzt

[wind spruce]

Back to back melee maelstroms

[hearty wolf]

Love to see it

Where's my melee only havocs though

That'd be lit

[onyx sentinel]

how long does it take to reach 40 from 20

I haven't played much at all

[deft stump]

If you are very good, 1 game.

[onyx sentinel]

do you still get levels from joining people's party?

[strong gulch]

If you grind from 20 to 40, it can take like a week.

If you get someone to host a 40 and you win, then yeah one game.

[hearty wolf]

Yeah you skip to completed assignment rank

Also will depend on your win rate ofc if you manually grind

[strong gulch]

Your rank will increase at reset on sunday if you're not hosting.

[hearty wolf]

Edited and still wrong 😭

Go to sleep

[strong gulch]

Soon™️

[deft stump]

Nu, go potato in bed.

[onyx sentinel]

party finder is just dead on OCE hey

[deft stump]

Try at dinner time.

[onyx sentinel]

it is dinner time

[deft stump]

7-9pm gmt+8.

[onyx sentinel]

imagine not immediately grinding an hour after work

[deft stump]

Or you won't find many.

[onyx sentinel]

I haven't found any

[deft stump]

Also, as for how good they are. Throw a dice.

I have seen more oggys refusing to pick up teammates today.

[onyx sentinel]

also tf do you demote if you're inactive

[deft stump]

Even when someone else had all the aggro.

[deft stump]

1 lvl a week. Or you demote to whatever you played that week if it's lower than your current.

Only assignment btw

The number next to name is always highest.

[wind spruce]

When you win murder barrel (but also lose)

[strong gulch]

You should get the barrel plug in for scoreboard.

[wind spruce]

WHAT

What's it called?@

!*

[strong gulch]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/113

You even get a who ignited and exploded something feed.

[wind spruce]

Incredible

[strong gulch]

Truly underrated.

[inland ice]

epic clipping moment

[strong gulch]

Oh yeah. That leg plate just doesn't care. It'll clip thru so many things.

Ok. Going to bed.

[inland ice]

sigma bedtimer

[quartz barn]

"Nut barrellaunched 3 players off the map"

[summer prairie]

looks like a mess though, can clean it up a bit

no one else had any player damage, scrubs

[dusty girder]

I got a god roll dueling sword

All 80s except cleave which is 60

That's a god roll right?

[deft stump]

Yes.

[vernal temple]

if blocking and pushing is 360, does blocking with deflector + kinetic deflection also 360?

[deft stump]

Just pray Hadron doesn't Hadron.

[deft stump]

From what I know, deflection is only the direction you face. I get shot from the side/back often enough.

[vernal temple]

ah, understood

[marble crater]

Test it out, you will get very quick results

[deft stump]

You potato instantly if the shotgunner gets to your side.

[dusty girder]

Good cause I found more god rolls in the shop lol . Only thing that sucks is it's level 170

I mean the max stats are 80s

The stats on it rn suck

[marble crater]

A problem easily solved with resources

[deft stump]

It'll get to 500 soontm.

[dusty girder]

Yeah

[dusty girder]

I'm broke😭

[marble crater]

That problem is solved by playing the game

[dusty girder]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-laptop-drake-gif-21716481

Bro😭

[marble crater]

Unlucky, your name turned red right after sending the gif

[deft stump]

I thought you use trauma and not purga? Wait, nvm. You just traumatised him.

[marble crater]

I only use purg in havoc, it's too boring to play in aurics

[deft stump]

Thus, you mainly trauma.

[vernal temple]

is it a bug that you sometimes still explode even during warp unbound?

[marble crater]

I mainly elektro

[vernal temple]

or is it caused by something?

[marble crater]

Maybe caused by not being in warp unbound anymore

[wispy bay]

It is a bug. To be honest though, it is not easy to code that.

[deft stump]

Sure...

[quartz barn]

If you overcharge as you proc wu you still explode

[vernal temple]

so like, if I see that I'm amost at 100% I need to stop attacking for a brief second, then resume attacking when it hits 100%?

[quartz barn]

Yes

[vernal temple]

because I've just popped twice in a row in the psykarium when the timer just started

[quartz barn]

Cant overcharge and enter wu at the same time

From what i remember theres a mod that fixes this

[vernal temple]

that's nice to know

[quartz barn]

Also gives you a sound notif when its about to run out

[vernal temple]

I'm just using the Warp Unbound mod that has a big ass countdown at the centre ofthe screen

[quartz barn]

Dont know what the mod is called tho because i dont really use wu nor have i tried the elektro lmb build

[vernal temple]

I rarely use the elektro lmb buid, mostly for funsies on regular mission, not for aurics and havoc

[marble crater]

How does the mod prevent this?

Stop you from casting anything during that short window

[summer prairie]

not sure if it even works, but when I looked at it, it just disabled your lmb when you are at 100 peril

but the mod isn't available anymore even

[marble crater]

[cold geode]

It's on git hub lol

[radiant frigate]

the "warp god" thingy?

[dusty girder]

Is there a limit to the amount you can upgrade something

[marble crater]

You can upgrade things until they are maxed out and then change perks and blessings as many times as you want/can afford

If you would roll a weapon with all stats at 1% you can still upgrade until they reached their max potential

[dusty girder]

Ah thanks

[austere cypress]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9dac1284-6cea-44d8-bc5f-ff3e32905f8f/dirty-psyker-melee

[jovial juniper]

Honestly

I'd get middle aura

Hmmm
But you'd miss on the 5% ranged subnode

Hmmm

[lone wing]

step one

replace smite with shards

you do not need psykinetic's aura

take warpsplitting

replace your ranged weapon with an autogun (the vraks, used to be the columnus autogun)
just makes it easier to deal with if you need that ranged option

true aim is useless here you already have almost 70% crit rate

[quartz barn]

Dont pick stam curio and kd on fgs pls

[lone wing]

one stam curio is aight for psyker

[quartz barn]

You already get more than enough stam

Yes but not on fgs, default is 5 or 6 already

[jovial juniper]

Oh yeah
What's the base stamina on the gsword

[deft stump]

14 with +9.

So do maths.

[quartz barn]

Its valid on ds because you only get 2

[jovial juniper]

Why do you have 14 😭

Ok I'm getting side tracked

ahem

[deft stump]

I want to AFK tank DH for other ppl's MM.

No more no less.

[jovial juniper]

Valid

[deft stump]

I have +9 stam curious. Because funni... Also because game hates me and tells me you get +3 stam or +1 wound.

[dense flume]

Still probably don't need that much lol

[deft stump]

So either funny crazy stam or Martyrdom Psyker.

[dense flume]

With um, that deflecting talent

[deft stump]

It works with it.

DH barely hits for 3% peril every combo or something.

[quartz barn]

If you get kd you barely use your stam

[deft stump]

But I do have a stupid build on it as well.

[quartz barn]

Vice versa why get kd when you already have enough stam anyway

[deft stump]

AFK tank DH.

[dense flume]

Yeah but... That's a lot of extra Stam. Im not sure I ever ran out with just 1 Stam curio , but I guess I'm only havoc 15 so...

[deft stump]

If Clad isn't on and nobody else want to help.

[quartz barn]

Get triple hp for havoc

[lone wing]

ew

what the fuck

no

[thorn cedar]

maybe at like havoc 25 or 30

[quartz barn]

Teams run book anyway and you get to have more hp than an ogryn

[lone wing]

toughness % over hp EVERY TIME

[dense flume]

Maybe higher, right?

[thorn cedar]

at 15 you dont need triple hp

[dense flume]

Yeah

[lone wing]

you dont need triple hp ever

[thorn cedar]

try to be over 123hp at least thats about it

[quartz barn]

Ye ok fair havoc 15 is like auric heresy?

[lone wing]

auric malice

[thorn cedar]

mah heresy

[lone wing]

not even

[thorn cedar]

0 10 is malice

[deft stump]

Is heresy.

1-10 is malice.

[lone wing]

more or less

[deft stump]

You have 2 wounds at 11.

[lone wing]

there is no difficulty in havok until 20

even then it's still pretty easy until 30

[quartz barn]

To you ye

Or to me i guess

[thorn cedar]

theres no difficulty until emps fading light

[quartz barn]

But boi is at havoc 15

[deft stump]

Guy just wants to stroke his sword in public.

[deft stump]

That's 16.

[dense flume]

That tracks. I can handle auric heresy. Damnation auric is a bit more team dependant, haven't struggled yet in havoc so... Heresy auric sounds right

Subjectively lol

[deft stump]

Honestly, auric Damnation starts at 20+.

[lone wing]

auric damn is more or less the same as damnation, usually easier because most people in auric aren't braindamaged

some still are don't get me wrong

but less

[deft stump]

It gets spicy at 25+.

[lone wing]

35+ is where the real fun begins (gunners instant shredding your toughness)

[thorn cedar]

almost all the mods are active at 33+

[upper sun]

PLEASE PLEASE

ive been wait since yesterday

[thorn cedar]

and honestly emp light II is the last big jump

[lone wing]

bet

[thorn cedar]

i dont find 31 vs 40 to be that dramatically different

compared to 21 vs 30

if youre already at H31 or so you're really good and shouldn't stress

its all just a grind for the sake of grinding

[deft stump]

31+ is where fading light 2 happens.

[lone wing]

i just broke all of my mods

FUCK

[quartz barn]

31 is only hard because you get a ton of -25 pubs

Once you get to 35 itll get easier because people are used to whatever modifier you get + know what to do when monsters spawn

[vernal temple]

but... power supply is fine, no?

[patent mango]

have you found the modifier u want yet

lmao

[upper sun]

NO

[upper sun]

i found high shock heresy

game was such a shitstomp

[patent mango]

heresy in auric moment

[upper sun]

16 minutes double grims no one got downed

[vernal temple]

thankfully I'm done with the event, but maybe 70% of the missions I did were all with vent purge / lights out / doggies

[upper sun]

one fucking psyker killed everything with gaze purge

i was just sniping dogs with knives all mission

[dusty girder]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9da41b68-77bc-4765-8cf7-e29c9be738ab/voidblast-psyker-jeficus

Ist his build good

[thorn cedar]

pretty standard with a few errors

dont precog on the Dueling Sword, put Uncanny instead. Penetration of the Soul (above warp charges) is bugged and doesn't currently do anything so there's no reason to take that talent unless you really hate Empyric Resolve

uncanny provides the rending that im guessing PotS was intended to provide

except like, way more lul

and global

[deft stump]

To be fair, some builds would rather avoid ER.

Mostly related to loss of toughness regen.

[thorn cedar]

ive been using it lately and i dont totally detest it as much as i did before

you do have to play a bit slower/safer and its deffo not good for anyone doing gunker but its fine

in high havocs i find it doesnt really matter since your toughness is already so little and the gain is already prenerfed too

youre already committed to managing toughness being a pain in the ass or relying on gold toughness

but yeah if pots worked id take pots instead

its just very stinky to justify taking an entirely dead node into havocs

[elfin mortar]

best map to do this penance on?

[jovial juniper]

Gloriana if you know how to flick

Vigil Station Oblivium but not that fast

[elfin mortar]

wdym?

[ornate hamlet]

MAGIC MAGIC!!! THE UNIVERSE IS MINE TO BEND!! YOU COULD NOT POSSIBLY IMAGINE THE POWER I HOLD!!

[jovial juniper]

If you smite then let go you'll throw stuff in their ass
But if you flick your camera to whatever side as you let go you'll throw them in the same direction or something along those lines

So basically you could like flick hordes out of ledges on the first half of Gloriana

[thorn cedar]

https://youtu.be/OT1xC1bzDJs?si=_JVHybn-uNrR0rUD

3:30 in this video

[ornate hamlet]

san andreas torrent has finished downloading

[broken carbon]

that’s when u run ahead

[upper sun]

there was another psyker with voidstrike and a chorus zealot

everything was gone 😭

[broken carbon]

clad doesn’t know how to run ahead confirmed

[elfin mortar]

What about smelter complex and throwing them into the molten steel?

[jovial juniper]

It should work but it's also pretty far away no?

[elfin mortar]

Well I don't have any gloriana missions available 😅

[mental rock]

I think there is a chasm logistratum map that has a couple good spots at the start

[lone wing]

holy shit the smykers are out in force rn

[thorn cedar]

yea reddit said mean things about them so now they have to prove a point

[patent mango]

500 million unnamed smykers randomly deciding to open darktide

[deft stump]

No bubble, so nub. they die to sniper shooting them.

[jovial juniper]

Good

FS sees it and either buffs smite or rework it
I'll win

[deft stump]

Not kidding, I watched 3 die due to walking out of cover without bubble and proceeding to eat a railgun.

[patent mango]

if every smyker just grouped up and formed the smyking squad it'd all work out

[jovial juniper]

[deft stump]

There's at least 5 snipers shooting.

[patent mango]

if they at least buffed the hec out of charged strike it'd be peak

[hearty wolf]

If only they hit ctrl :(

[lone wing]

nerf it

remove it

[deft stump]

Eh?

[elfin mortar]

I swear to god this feels impossible with randoms

[celest valve]

nerfing it would literally make smykers more intolerable as people would still run it

[hearty wolf]

Slide

[elfin mortar]

the explode yourself (int) to kill a elite aswell

[lone wing]

let them die

keep nerfing it until it's useless to run

it already is

[hearty wolf]

Just make smite a point tax

[lone wing]

but the infinite stun is the issue

[hearty wolf]

5 points to take it

[patent mango]

move assail to middle

[celest valve]

bold choice to run with 1-3 less players a game but

[lone wing]

i'll live

[deft stump]

Still, they would just slide into more snipers.

There was like 15 beams.

[hearty wolf]

That's fine

Slide again

Snipers hate it

[celest valve]

just keep sliding

slide into the victory screen

[dense flume]

Snipers hate that weird trick

[patent mango]

pro darktide players have 100% slide uptime

[dense flume]

Couldn't help it

[celest valve]

snipers also hate teammates that are actually responsive, and zero in on sniper noises to ensure they never fire more than one shot

they love teammates that just stare at the ogryn with a ripper expecting them to do anything about the snipers while the ogryn is hiding behind a shield

[patent mango]

ripper ogryns arent real

[deft stump]

Is vent purge, nobody can see shit.

Also, when a bolt pistol is the best gun for sniping.

Errrrrrrrrr

Because BAG is well, BAG.

[lone wing]

i refuse to play vent purge

[celest valve]

if only there was a glowing red line pointing to the sniper

[jovial juniper]

But I'm
But me
I'm here 😭

[patent mango]

surgical deadly accurate pocket bistol snipah

[lone wing]

not fun

[deft stump]

Everything else though.

[patent mango]

are you sure you're real

[upper sun]

smite in the books is legit just surge staff

[jovial juniper]

(I only started playing ripper because my cleaver can't handle carapace)

[upper sun]

full ass librarians almost die smiting one target

[deft stump]

I'm on my gremlin, it's always Lethal prox and Puncture.

[upper sun]

how the hell can we smite rooms

[patent mango]

they're level 0 by that point

[lone wing]

get on
hi int shock brute

commsplex

[upper sun]

AAAAAAAAAAA

im making food

[lone wing]

LOL

[upper sun]

im gonna kms

[lone wing]

ill save it

MMT'ed for later

[upper sun]

🫡

[patent mango]

u can keep it forever?

[lone wing]

24 hours

[patent mango]

i c

i could hop on too event is funny

[lone wing]

im just happy greatsword is good against crushers

bulwarks get opened to a push attack

im chillen

[patent mango]

stab after special is so good for ogryn damig

[lone wing]

a full charged special is free damage

[patent mango]

theres so many ogryns im using half essence to stack malefic momentum dmg instead of max

[lone wing]

[patent mango]

then i can get 1 shots

[quartz barn]

I usually onetap bulwarks through their shield

Crushers are kinda weird tho, its better to miss the initial hit and prime the stab on mk6

[hearty wolf]

Don't do that

[patent mango]

crushers i just spam heavies

[hearty wolf]

Bonk them first

[lone wing]

crushers can still float across the ground

[quartz barn]

Because if you hit h1 it bounces off or smt and your second hit will just be h1 again

[patent mango]

how

?

[quartz barn]

Idk

[celest valve]

me when I mk8 and just one shot crushers with the force push stab

[patent mango]

r u doing l1 instead or smth

oh wait

u might be doing the light overhead somehow

that chains into h1

[lone wing]

me realizing i was using the 8 over the 6 this whole time

and everyone i know has said the 6 is better

[patent mango]

6 is easily more fun

[celest valve]

nah 8 better and more fun

[thorn cedar]

8 better

[celest valve]

oh god

[patent mango]

lmao

[celest valve]

you started it

why did you start it

[patent mango]

🔥

[celest valve]

why did I start it

[deft stump]

WW7 time.

Sighs.

[celest valve]

https://tenor.com/view/bye-bye-bye-goodbye-see-ya-gn-gif-4297369649887823386

[patent mango]

ermmm mk7 fgs

[deft stump]

Sus.

[broken carbon]

i have unfortunately used the mk6 in a civi and i think they’re both really equal now

i don’t think it’s an issue of one being better, it’s entirely preference

[patent mango]

mk12 fgs

[sharp pike]

how do i not get 2 shot by melee?

[broken carbon]

the PA into stab on mk8 is really nice and meets nice BPs

[sharp pike]

genuinely 2 shot by dreg

[patent mango]

psyker moment

[broken carbon]

but the h2 stab on mk6 is pretty nice too

[patent mango]

u gotta dodge lmao psyker is squishy

one with the warp can help a bit

[celest valve]

you don't. on anyone in the game. don't get hit.

[patent mango]

which is around the middle of talent tree

[hearty wolf]

Get more health

And don't die

[sharp pike]

vet zealot and ogyrn have nowhere near as harsh penalty for getting hit havoc or regular

[deft stump]

Vet depends.

[hearty wolf]

Well Psyker kinda doesn't give a shit about being hit

Just don't get hit multiple times in a row

[sharp pike]

i need KD bad

[celest valve]

usually the case on others too

get hit once happens, can recover from at a rate depending on build

get hit twice, you are now taking health damage which is bad, don't do that

[hearty wolf]

Pretty much

Psyker just has such insane regen

[celest valve]

sure ogryn and zealot can take more second hits before they go down but

[hearty wolf]

Bleed through to health is non existent

[celest valve]

yes but point is: taking two hits in a row without regenning, always a mistake. in melee

(ranged is different and you're good as long as you never have 0 toughness, and have full toughness by the time you get hit by melee again)

[hearty wolf]

If you don't die, you're alive 👍

[patent mango]

how does this game not have these 2

in vanilla

[hearty wolf]

Wtf

Delete that

That's toxic

How dare you inspect others gear

Did they give you permission???

[patent mango]

yea

everyone did forever

let me in your armory

[hearty wolf]

Uwu

[celest valve]

pls don't judge my penetration dumpstat knives

[patent mango]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/933882059880030218/1098443819378290738/1648831828374224898.gif

[plucky flax]

@strong gulch did you get tru survivor?

[hearty wolf]

No

He threw

On finale

Defeated by a box

Literal inanimate object

[plucky flax]

Just git gud smh

I can help I am home now with good internet.

[hearty wolf]

No

You can't >:(

[hasty gulch]

Where can I find info for a noob interested in the glass cannon psyker?

[narrow herald]

Prob because they don't want party finder to turn into Indeed 💀

[narrow herald]

What

[hasty gulch]

?

[narrow herald]

What is a "glass Canon psyker"

[patent mango]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[hasty gulch]

High damage high risk

[patent mango]

how is it all power supply

[narrow herald]

Define "high risk"

[patent mango]

help!!!!!!!!!!! help meeeeeeeeee

[narrow herald]

No

[prime elk]

Don't take defensive curios. Done.

[hasty gulch]

?

[narrow herald]

Just turn on the lights

[patent mango]

https://tenor.com/view/creature-kiwi-bird-paranormal-cute-gif-16764581

[hasty gulch]

Okay, gun or staves? I go for inferno or lightning staves usually

[narrow herald]

Psyker to me is one of the most broken classes in the game that can survive literally a demonhost wailing on it for 2 minutes straight

I wouldn't call it "risky"

[prime elk]

Gunker best psyker

[narrow herald]

Stop

[hasty gulch]

I’ve been there but that’s just

[patent mango]

meleeker!!!!!!!!!!! stab everyone!!!!!!!!!!

[prime elk]

https://tenor.com/view/no-nope-no-way-noo-absolutely-not-gif-20244171

[patent mango]

[prime elk]

Bonker*

[hasty gulch]

All I want is warp damage

[narrow herald]

High risk high reward isn't really the Psyker playstyle

It's more High reward and no risk

[hasty gulch]

Melt their brains

[fathom adder]

...so use staff instead of gun

[thorn cedar]

idk staves are a mood and are fun but gunker is playing darktide like a murderous spectre and thats hard to beat

[hasty gulch]

Which staff?

[thorn cedar]

so long as you are killing you cannot be killed

but youre a deadly hummingbird

if you ever stop

u die

[hasty gulch]

Oh?

[thorn cedar]

thats honestly, lmao

one of the hardests ive ever laughed at a pub

who asked "why do you fight like a hummingbird"

and it just floored me

man im still cracking up

[narrow herald]

I mean Ig melee psyker without Kinetic Deflection is somewhat "risky"

[hasty gulch]

Beyond floored

[fathom adder]

Whatever you want, they all have situations in which they excel. That said, as difficulty goes up, the "situations" are increasingly weighted in favor of Trauma and Inferno

[silver mantle]

Trauma knocks things on their butts

So they cant hit you

[hasty gulch]

Facts I hear that. The burns are good but trauma cc spam is fun.

[narrow herald]

Idk, when I play Psyker I feel like I'm the safest

[silver mantle]

Inferno is just a flamethrower

[narrow herald]

Because I have 20 thousands ways to cc and kill everything in front of me

[fathom adder]

Based and tryhard combo for Havocs is Inferno and Rending Trauma tag team

[patent mango]

based combo for havoc is 4 meleekers

[hasty gulch]

Do I need bubble or can I go shriek?

[narrow herald]

Bubble is really just to counter Emporer's Fading Light

[thorn cedar]

you can also do walls

which are much more fun

[prime elk]

Yeah not even

[thorn cedar]

and it forces your team to push up if they dont wanna die (;

[narrow herald]

It isn't bad, but I would argue it is overall the worst psyker ability, because why bother being "defensive" if u cna just kill everything

[fathom adder]

You don't technically need anything (somewhere out there I'm sure is a video of 4 Ogryns doing Havoc 40 with power mauls with zero downs) but Havoc is made much, much more difficult without Bubble

[narrow herald]

I cna just scream at the top of my lungs and everything dies in front of me

[hasty gulch]

Bunko the dog comes into mind

[silver mantle]

4 ogryn melee only you mean

[hasty gulch]

I will try with shriek

[silver mantle]

That had a lot of downs

[narrow herald]

4 pick axe Ogryns feel like a blending machine

[narrow herald]

I said "overall" like in all game modes

[hasty gulch]

I’m new so I just started doing auric stuff

But I’m prepping and learning for havoc

[narrow herald]

I still think Bubble is best in Havoc, but again it's because Emporer is soo cancer

[hasty gulch]

To get 500 level gear you have to empower it right? Curios, you just get lucky while you farm?

[thorn cedar]

yea curios is just whatever it drops as

really all melk coins are good for is gambling curios

[hasty gulch]

Oh, I should try that

[silver mantle]

Keep in mind psyker doesnt always want 500 gear

[thorn cedar]

rare but true

[silver mantle]

Specificslly on fg, and fs

[thorn cedar]

I wouldn't really overthink it though

[hasty gulch]

Does difficulty increase the power level of gear?

[thorn cedar]

Marks?

oh

Of drops yes

[silver mantle]

Drops are typically not the way you get gear

Ive gotten like 2 worth it gear drops in my time playing

(One was a 490 shredder pistol with 58 mobility)

[hasty gulch]

Ahh

Dang it

[prime elk]

It's good for extra resources at least

Just a small bonus

[fathom adder]

If you're still leveling up, Assail will be way better than any weapon that you can obtain

[patent mango]

man this tide is so dark and theres hammers of war in it there might even be 40k enemies

[hasty gulch]

I hit 30, and I have been trying different things, but gunners eat my toughness up. I slide and dodge when I can. I find the weapons affect the move speed - force sword vs dueling sword for example

[thorn cedar]

they do

all weapons have a sprint modifier, some are just 0

[wispy bay]

It is kind of funny that some of my fastest runs in H35-40 are the ones without psyker.

[silver mantle]

Correct

[hasty gulch]

Can you get the greatsword from drops or do you have to craft it yourself?

[prime elk]

You can buy it from the armory

Might need to be a certain level though

[silver mantle]

Hes 30

[silver mantle]

You go tl brunt, and there is a section called brunts armory

Where you can choose the weapon you want to buy

[fathom adder]

It's actually shocking how seldom I see anyone refer to this game as Left 40k Dead

[hearty wolf]

It's because left for dead is for... Boomers

[fathom adder]

35 year old boomers who remember when games had no grind (sorry, progression) but still somehow managed to attract and keep a large playerbase

[hearty wolf]

I remember the days games used to be for fun

But now it's all about number go up

[deft stump]

Modding gud. You can even change numbers and things that go on and such.

Custom bosses even exist, though most are kinda clunky.

[fathom adder]

MMORPGs and their consequences have been a disaster for the gamer race.

[wispy bay]

I don't think MMOPRG is to blame.

[deft stump]

Also, 500k+ maps.

Because years of community work.

[wispy bay]

Many people like the feel of accomplishment.

[deft stump]

More, you get to the end of stuff. 100% completion.

All the power by the end.

[wispy bay]

It is the main attraction to Dark Souls games for example. The story is so over the place, and most players only played those for the challenge.

[deft stump]

But if you delve into the story, it's really deep.

[wispy bay]

Like, they tuned it harder after people say that it is too hard, and then more people came to get its challenges.

[fathom adder]

There is a big difference between the challenge of beating a difficult stage, boss, etc. and the challenge of finishing an arbitrarily and/or randomly long grind

[silver mantle]

Nah I played for the story

And fashion

[minor wedge]

Hey guys, question. If I regularly play damnations, do you reckon I could handle an auric heresy?