psyker-class

[wind spruce]

It's fun for a couple of games

And definitely broken af

[analog agate]

I’m getting tired of bubble

[thick venture]

Is being Thor Meta?

[wind spruce]

That's because it's fun for zero games

[wind spruce]

No

[analog agate]

Lol

[thick venture]

Haters gonna Hate

Me and my hammer will go over here

[analog agate]

Do you mean shock maul?

Or smite guy

[thick venture]

I was jokingly talking about Electric everything

Mual, Smite that one node that makes heavies have electricity

[analog agate]

It won’t have the best time in high havoc for sure

[thick venture]

Imma head out guys take care thank you all

[plucky flax]

Np

[wind spruce]

Psyker chat

Do some discussing

Silly americans sleeping at the wrong time SMDH head

We could talk about how bad precog is again

[nocturne dust]

Sleeping?

[compact cargo]

Ok hear me out

shock maul, bio lighting

[nocturne dust]

would be cool if it synergized

Fatshark would never

😔

[upbeat kestrel]

thor psyker when

[tranquil sluice]

perk for greatsword?

[deft stump]

Maul what dodge so you ded randomly.

[compact cargo]

50/50 chance you drop dead after you "dodge"

[deft stump]

Shush you. 300 ping lag issues.

Not even double ws knoife can do anything.

[tranquil sluice]

is that for damnation breakpoints?

[upbeat kestrel]

yeah

[tranquil sluice]

i use my gun against carapace

unyielding is that berserkers?

[upbeat kestrel]

greatsowrd shits on carapace

[torn kernel]

Unyielding is for monstrosities & bulwarks

[upbeat kestrel]

no bosses and ogryns that are not crushers

[torn kernel]

Oh reapers too

[upbeat kestrel]

maniac is for ragers

and most specials

[tranquil sluice]

most specials you say

[wind spruce]

Unless you're using revolver you shouldn't be

[tranquil sluice]

bolt gun with bleed :]

[torn kernel]

1-2tapping crushers as a melee psyker will never not be satisfying

[wind spruce]

Is bad against carapace tbh

[upbeat kestrel]

boltpistol is not that good at killing crushers

you will be better of with sword

[tranquil sluice]

no, i'm not at all good enough at dodging them

[wind spruce]

That's more reason to do it

[upbeat kestrel]

then learn

[wind spruce]

Practice.

[tranquil sluice]

but why can't i fight crushers in the meat grinder?

[wind spruce]

You can if you're on pc

[upbeat kestrel]

because fuck you theyre only standing around without mods

[tranquil sluice]

i'm not seeing how greatsword special is supposed to be great, i do the same damage with one heavy swing or 2 normals. am i missing some talents?

[torn kernel]

It's mostly for horde clear

You can literally bisect an entire mixed horde lol

[tranquil sluice]

it just does 30% of their healthbar, 100 dmg. outside meele range

[torn kernel]

Charge it lmao

[tranquil sluice]

yeah did

[wind spruce]

You know it can charge up, right?

[torn kernel]

Kill 10 for around 400, 20 for big damage

[tranquil sluice]

wait now it did more

even without charge

[torn kernel]

It does have dmg dropoff

[tranquil sluice]

it seems so inconsistent, 0 charge did 300 dmg oneshot all 5 test dummies, outside meele. but i can't replicate it

[torn kernel]

Crit probably

[tranquil sluice]

oh yeah. so it's just 130 outside meele

[deft stump]

Min 7 headshots so yeah. And this is Vet with ws.

[upbeat kestrel]

i kill hordes with force greatsword special

[tranquil sluice]

charge does the same dmg

[wind spruce]

No it doesn't

[torn kernel]

By charge do you mean holding m1

[broken carbon]

get kills

it empowers it

[torn kernel]

Kill stuff until it makes a noise lol

[broken carbon]

then the special consumes the charge

[tranquil sluice]

ah

[broken carbon]

and then use it

it kills everything except maulers and ogryns

[tranquil sluice]

oh that is what the 2 bars are

and it lasts very long.

[upbeat kestrel]

also for the future get your terminology right

[tranquil sluice]

charge = charge attack usually 😄

[upbeat kestrel]

no

[plucky flax]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1320616762487869511/Desktop_2024.12.23_-_11.57.29.04.mp4?ex=678740b4&is=6785ef34&hm=1f8c51810611c1b5fbb51244bba19384e81fa9d7b56147a64d69a1201c6792f3&

[upbeat kestrel]

its heavy attack

[tranquil sluice]

thanks, i understand the charges now 😄

does it matter how i swing once i have 1 or 2 charges and activate it?

heavy or light swing any different?

[wind spruce]

How do you know they didn't mean holding down m1 like you do with thrust

[summer prairie]

you should shorten your buff names

[nocturne dust]

debuff

and no, you shouldn't

[tranquil sluice]

what is this special attack called? for refference's sake? runic strike ?

[torn kernel]

playing with music off?

[tranquil sluice]

Warpshock slash?

[upbeat kestrel]

yes heavy attack

[deft stump]

We just don't question what Chaos does.

[wind spruce]

That's not just a heavy attack

[torn kernel]

lmfao

[tranquil sluice]

i loved greatsword before all this, now i'm thinking it's OP

[wind spruce]

It is

[tranquil sluice]

is it a recent addition or a recent buff?

[deft stump]

Just accept the yes no spam.

[wind spruce]

Addition

[tranquil sluice]

i guess if it's a psyker only weapon you'd need to ask if psyker becomes the strongest class by using greatsword. if not then it's no issue

[deft stump]

It can be, but then you are watching the top players with it, lul.

The avg player will potato faster since paper class with slow weapon.

[tranquil sluice]

i assume all classes have comparable abilities, i've seen ogryn oneshot some random enemies, seemingly with some shotgun or grenade launcher, and pickaxe.

[deft stump]

Oggys have high base numbers as well.

[tranquil sluice]

is it ever possible to block an overhead?

[upbeat kestrel]

yes

[tranquil sluice]

shield?

[upbeat kestrel]

yeah

[tranquil sluice]

but never with swords

[deft stump]

Slab oggy or special Dclaw parry.

[wind spruce]

No, because a weapon can also be too strong relative to other weapons in a psyker vacuum, and more than one class can be overpowered

[tranquil sluice]

greatsword reminds me of that DLC weapon in v2.

[deft stump]

It probs is.

[tranquil sluice]

and the fact it was a dlc weapon pissed me off and i quit mostly because of it 😄

[deft stump]

They have been reusing patterns from VT2.

[tranquil sluice]

but it was a fun 100 hours anyway.

[deft stump]

GF mentions a lot about it cos she played too much VT2.

[tranquil sluice]

yeah, i'd like all weapons to be viable

[wind spruce]

They are all viable

[tranquil sluice]

isn't greatsword far above the rest?

[upbeat kestrel]

no

[tranquil sluice]

what other psyker meele weapons are great?

[wind spruce]

That's not relevant to them all being viable

Maybe you mean competitive

[wind spruce]

Duelling sword, deimos, illisi

[deft stump]

I mean, the og mark for the fs is pretty good now if you can deal with the clunk. At least some say.

It's really the inbetweener now.

[tranquil sluice]

what is deimos and illisi?

[wind spruce]

Weapons

[deft stump]

Force sword marks.

All 3 are pretty good atm.

[upbeat kestrel]

Small force sword marks

[tranquil sluice]

i see

[upbeat kestrel]

Also experiment yourself

[deft stump]

Illisi is for hordes, Deimos for big stuff and Obscurus is a hybird that you need to learn patterns to truly make use of it.

[buoyant maple]

Illisi for pure & mixed horde clear
Deimos for single target & stagger
Obscurus for a mix of both

[tranquil sluice]

i tried deimos, the special didn't seem comparable to greatsword.

[deft stump]

You don't stroke it.

You poke heds.

Ask Chaos for funny stab hed stuff.

[upbeat kestrel]

Deimos is the penis sword

[buoyant maple]

The only force sword worth using special for is illisi

[deft stump]

But you actually want to stroke the Illussy

[upbeat kestrel]

I use illisi

Fairly often so i know

And then you have deadly toothpick

Aka dueling sword

[deft stump]

When Oggys get it?

[upbeat kestrel]

Idk

[deft stump]

It will have the lowest base numbers but crusher heds go pop anyway.

[upbeat kestrel]

1st of April maybe

[tranquil sluice]

i definitely preffer mk8 greatsword

[upbeat kestrel]

Ok

[deft stump]

Don't mention that unless you want to be burnt.

[tranquil sluice]

it's just so clean with the side to side swings

presumably mk6 is meant for armoreds

[deft stump]

Yes, but still. Most ppl here say 6 is better.

[upbeat kestrel]

I say mk2 reloc blade is better amd most people i know prefer mk10

[deft stump]

Just telling you so WW7 don't happen.

[torn kernel]

shhh i prefer mk8

for the meme

[upbeat kestrel]

I cast manual breathing

Yeah i strobgly prefer mk6 fgs

[deft stump]

Wat? I don't care either way, my Illisi is better.

[upbeat kestrel]

Fer enof

[tranquil sluice]

what is reloc blade

[deft stump]

Relic blade. Zealot 2 hander.

[tranquil sluice]

this is psyker chat, can someone ban magister

[torn kernel]

magister is psyker chat

[deft stump]

Look, sane Zealots show up here often enough.

[torn kernel]

[deft stump]

Same for the weirder vets.

[upbeat kestrel]

And remember sparkhead im your bodyguard

[upbeat kestrel]

Wait till i start speaking enuncia and altering reality

[tranquil sluice]

the dueling sword is interesting with the poke 😮

is the purpose then to build around +dmg to staggered?

[deft stump]

No, you rend armor and poke.

Uncanny is core.

[upbeat kestrel]

Fun fuct dueking sword was psyker exclusive

[tranquil sluice]

is rending effectively sunder armor?

[deft stump]

Second depends on what you want.

Agile is the defensive option.

Honestly, won't gatekeep your choice, but precog is really bad.

Rampage does dook all considering, unless you use mk2.

[tranquil sluice]

ill try mk6 greatsword since you folks seem so adamant it is best

[deft stump]

It's really just taste things. Do note you really need different blessings. Murderous tranquility and such doesn't work on 6.

[tranquil sluice]

precog?

[torn kernel]

just use whichever is more comfortable lol

[tranquil sluice]

nition?

[deft stump]

Yeah.

Just doesn't last long enough to do much.

[tranquil sluice]

talent? where

[deft stump]

No.

Dueling.

[tranquil sluice]

oh marks

dont have any of those

[deft stump]

Blessings for dueling sword.

[buoyant maple]

For force greatsword
Wrath (blessing) is good
Warp splitting (talent) is good
Riposte (blessing) and deflector (blessing) both have value too

Unstable power (blessing) is ok

[upbeat kestrel]

I use murderous tranw on mk6 become ungovernable

[tranquil sluice]

i like deflector 😄

[buoyant maple]

If ur using force greatsword in a right-side build context with scrier’s gaze, take by crack of bone and warp splitting

[deft stump]

Fine, they are just much harder to get working. Fair?

[upbeat kestrel]

If you know your hordeclear combo its easy. But yeah fair

[tranquil sluice]

wish i could search in talent tree like i can in POE

[upbeat kestrel]

Games lantern

[deft stump]

Err, those are weapon blessing.

[upbeat kestrel]

Also yes

[tranquil sluice]

where is the warp splitting talent?

[buoyant maple]

right side, above aura

[tranquil sluice]

oh yeah i saw that

seems sick

[buoyant maple]

+0~100% total cleave scaling from 0~100% peril

[tranquil sluice]

but does cleave matter so much with mk6

[buoyant maple]

force greatsword has fairly low base cleave

for hordes

[buoyant maple]

so if ur plan is not to exclusively use the sword for bigger targets

[tranquil sluice]

do you generally always swing your character side to side for hordes?

[buoyant maple]

cleave bonuses will be useful

[buoyant maple]

u can

but because the base cleave is so low

it can run out before u get to hit everything u want to hit

[tranquil sluice]

is disrupt destiny very strong?

[upbeat kestrel]

yes

[tranquil sluice]

seems like the 25 stack would just make you oneshot with mk6

nearlyu

[upbeat kestrel]

you want longer duration

[nocturne dust]

The main issue is uptime

for the 25 stack

and the uptime is incredibly deceptive because Fatshark's buff bar is broken to crap

DD will often just not show you how many stacks you have, or show the incorrect number

[tranquil sluice]

10s seems like it would effectively be permanent

[deft stump]

Depends on team. You could technically not even have a stack if you are lagging hard with a very stacked 3 others.

[nocturne dust]

Eeeeehhhhh, it's a lot better than it used to be. Try it and see.

[deft stump]

Still staring at my WS 0 stacks.

[tranquil sluice]

both of those stacking things are a whole lot of hassle for me, maybe ill just go empowered psionics with assail and go full Yondu

https://tenor.com/view/yondu-arrow-marvel-guardiansofthegalaxy2-ravagers-gif-14617100

[wind spruce]

Then you're doing them both wrong

Set and forget

Empowered psionics is the biggest hassle of the three because it impacts how your blitzes work

[upbeat kestrel]

empowered psionics is best with brain burst imo

[wind spruce]

With DD I just ignore it the whole game

[wind spruce]

It's strongest with smite

Because smite is incredibly OP

And EP makes it kill stuff gooderer

[deft stump]

The four smykers of the Warpocalypse.

[tranquil sluice]

can it stun crushers ?

[wind spruce]

Yes

[tranquil sluice]

that's unfair

[wind spruce]

Yep smite dumb

[torn kernel]

it does no dmg so you just kinda

[wind spruce]

Seriously though Alexander, stick with DD

[torn kernel]

stare at em until it runs out and they tap you

[wind spruce]

It grows on you and it's so good

The trick is not to chase the blue men

[tranquil sluice]

im lvl 16 so i've never tried the bottom stuff yet. i'll try them all though, definitely trying empowered smite.

[wind spruce]

Oh you're REALLY new

[deft stump]

You see, that's when you want 4 smykers.

[wind spruce]

Just have fun

[deft stump]

Crushers can't move if the next smyker starts chaining when you are close to 70%.

So... heh.

[torn kernel]

lmao

[nocturne dust]

You know what would be cool? If smite got nerfed so that it no longer stunned the especially crazy specialists that froth at the mouth like trapper and flamer

[lime oriole]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9df7176b-af3d-438f-929e-7821382d46b2

Been running this for farming Aurics yday, it's by no means Meta if only because it lacks the team CDR support but ow BOY is it fun to run around at match 10 and have like 2 attacks / sec on a greatsword.

Point is to stay above 50% at all times and spend as much time as possible at 100%, with WS and ES i think assail can cleave 5 targets (more on crit and it's like... 55% crit?). Shards / GS can be canceled into each other, dealing with both hordes and gunners / trappers / flamers at the same time.

Rager / Mauler packs really slow down momentum, it's fine with 2-3, you can heavy push but i'm allmost temped to run Trauma staff instead of the revolver to deal with them 🤔

[nocturne dust]

I mean

that's like

almost all the gunker meta

except endurance

and ethereal shards

[lime oriole]

dono what gunker is, new, but, cool 🙂

[nocturne dust]

Gunker is gun + psyker

and gunker is meleeker is assailker

They're all the same thing, really

which is mostly right side, with DD and SG

[lime oriole]

i prefer blendER but yeah 🤣

It's fun in pubs when people are pinned on a balcony trying to deal with like 10+ ranged mobs and i'm just like screw this turn on scryers, jump and blend away to the wooshing sound of Empathic Evasion keeping me safe 🤣

https://tenor.com/view/exeey-jumped-gif-3674642826791094427

And yes could swap endurance for combustion, expenditure or cruel fortune but 🤷 it makes me feel warm and fuzzy

ow or quick shards ofc

[nocturne dust]

yeah, people generally go for more shards over ethereal due to warp splitting affecting assail

[lime oriole]

thing is and again, new player.... i don't feel safe throwing "raw" ES. Like i pull out ES to try and deal with packs of ranged mobs and between the "casting" time the travel time and the.... 70-30% they actually hit the head, i usually end up out of dodges and shot before ES handles the gunner problem

[nocturne dust]

you mean raw assail?

[lime oriole]

Yes, raw Assail

[nocturne dust]

Completely fair to feel the way you are. A lot of the soft power in the game is about positioning, and if you don't have that you can be very vulnerable to ranged

and hey, if it works for you, you like it, and don't want to improve, that's also completely fair.

[lime oriole]

eh, over time, sure, i'm more at the "Empyric Resolve is AWSOME -> ER is HORRIBLE" stage atm 😛

I did name my vet Private-Johnson with the intention of "promoting" him to Major-Johnson if and when he does Havoc 😅

[wind spruce]

Assail is meta

[nocturne dust]

Smite:

[wind spruce]

All of the blitzes are meta

[nocturne dust]

Categorically false

BB is not meta

KF is

[wind spruce]

BB categorically is meta

It's also meta to not actually use it the whole game

[chrome geode]

best class ever

✊😒

[summer prairie]

looking at total elite spawn counts with power di, scab maps seem to usually be shotgunner maps, dreg maps gunner

[wind spruce]

I love shotgunners

Hate gunners

I can play a lot more aggressively into shotties

The heretics really need some noise cancellation for that thing

[marble crater]

Shotties are better because you can bait them into melee and disable their ranged interaction

[summer prairie]

Dreg map, kind of interesting

Mixed map

I guess this is a scab map with armored horde

[marble crater]

That's a lot of flak

[wind spruce]

Plus so easy to just dodge their shots, even when there's 5-6 of them

[marble crater]

There was that one time when I left my bubble for a split second and three of them one shot me right away, no time to dodge that

[wind spruce]

No sound cue?

[marble crater]

It was havoc, everything was a sound cue, I probably didn't hear it in the chaos

[next venture]

Anyone got any advice for "Cliffhanger"? Keep trying Venting Shriek and Force sword shove spam and enemies are barely moving

[summer prairie]

shriek has more push/stagger force if you are at high peril

[marble crater]

I recommend this video #psyker-class message

[next venture]

head tilts Why did my Smite never do that..

[summer prairie]

I got my cliffhanger during like week 1 or 2 at that location when the requirement was still 20 or whatever

with shriek

[marble crater]

At that location they kinda fall down outside of the map while trying to get on the platform, or something

[next venture]

Aaaaaaahhhhhh. So also spam off map spawns, gotcha

[summer prairie]

anything that instakills them I guess

[next venture]

I'm just achievement farming for The Blue Armor

[upbeat kestrel]

For cliffhanger get yourself a taunt ogryn

[cold geode]

or just go to the water cartel/hack the water cogitator map, at then end when you're hacking the last terminal use the bridges that connect to it as a place to blow mf's off, they come in massive waves on auric/auric mael and its easy af

Vigil Station Oblivium

[radiant frigate]

atoma's most coordinated shotgunner squad

[next venture]

Tried that, allies just ripped the guys apart before I could get any

[cold geode]

tellem what you need to do ahead of time

[next venture]

I do pubs, no way they'll listen

[cold geode]

you'd be surprised, ive gotten like 98% of all my penances done in pugs

[weary crane]

One of the things i love about greatsword, the special can go really far through walls, which allows you to trigger camped enemies in a part of the map that is difficult, so you can fight them at a good location

I used this for the shield in the cathedral too

All of the enemies inside came out, and we stay at the back and killed them

[deft stump]

Depends on server region. Some have mindsets that are very "Me, me, me." Type.

[wind spruce]

Name and shame

[deft stump]

Like, it's very very rare to find anyone going support here unless it's high havoc or someone too lazy to switch out of havoc build.

Why? Havoc forces teamwork or you plain dooking lose.

Unless you are like the 0.000000001% that can solo hard carry.

Also Asian mindsets are to be selfish and number 1 in everything.

[cold geode]

There is also the LFG https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1045597890472579075

[deft stump]

Why let someone get 7 kills when you can take them?

People will backstab you to profit and win. I'll tell you that.

They'll want to hold on to things they can prevent others from getting.

[blissful solar]

as if westerners arent the same way

[granite saddle]

Yea Westerners also have ego issues at times

[deft stump]

Difference is, you grow up being taught to be like that. It gets beaten into you by parents or otherwise. I'm literally a failure to the point I failed to even find a rich enough husband.

[next venture]

Got it

[blissful solar]

western females are often taught the same thing

[next venture]

Same spot, smite, got it quick

[blissful solar]

but yeah, asians seem to be raised their entire lives for the purpose of seeking perfection. it's probably quite harsh. westerners are just sorta forced into it by social pressures and stuff.

In a way westerners are less prepared for their cutthroat society

[deft stump]

Not number 1 in physical and mental stuff, not wealthy, not even beautiful (Standards here can be worse.).

[blissful solar]

that's how we all feel i think

we all feel like disappointments because we arent good at anything

[upbeat kestrel]

Thats why eastern europe is better

[blissful solar]

except the ones who are good at things, they love to make us know it

[deft stump]

Naw, that's what ppl say about me offline.

[blissful solar]

that's probably what people would say about me if they wanted to

[granite saddle]

I sometimes have that come to me in moments of depression

[blissful solar]

most people just ignore it

[granite saddle]

Not even due to my parents or anything

[deft stump]

Well, except her, but still, she ain't around all the time.

[blissful solar]

it's like an intrusive thought, you dont have to think that way

[granite saddle]

Yea

[blissful solar]

count yourself lucky that you have a gf

youve got that going for you

[deft stump]

Or just be, well yeah, I'm bad and be derp about it as always.

[deft stump]

If parents knew, I'm better off under the sea.

If you get what I mean.

[blissful solar]

cuz gay or what

[deft stump]

Yeah.

[upbeat kestrel]

Homophobic parents at it best

[deft stump]

I hinted about it before, best is to have them brush it off as a stupid joke than hard disowned and thrown out.

Mom just knows of her as a close friend rn. It just works out anyway.

[granite saddle]

I prefer to be support as a Psyker/Veteran though for Zealot I like to play aggressive. leveling Ogryn atm though so haven't decided how I want to play them.

[deft stump]

But yeah, best to go back to DT stuff before I murder the chat again being generally depressed, am heresy bot. Start panicking if everyone is somehow worse than me. Is good way to think about it.

[deft stump]

I run basically just support builds on everything. Sometimes, I just pull out DPS psyker, but I'm just bad at playing psyker anyway.

Unless you really, really need a DH tank for MM and Clad is offline.

[upper sun]

sorry i fell asleep afterwards it was too late 😭

[upper sun]

i hath been summoned

[deft stump]

Nu. Nobody needs one rn. Am just being a depresso kitten.

[blissful solar]

anyone can DH tank they just need to be a shieldgryn

[upper sun]

I slumber once more.....

[deft stump]

I do it on the dumbest Psyker build ever. I can't deal with Oggy tbh.

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/ogryn-darktide-ryback-gif-27166387

[deft stump]

Just the playstyle and lack of dodges that do things.

Is why, only ask me if nobody on will help you. I'll spend an afternoon trying to fish an early DH with you then.

[nocturne dust]

Just play through a dam mission

[deft stump]

We will just wipe since there's no lvl 9 Su in it.

Like I said, I'm not good with psyker to carry.

It's already gambling on my vet.

[west eagle]

The voices in the warp are getting in the head of the orange kitten. Stay strong, you are not alone on the battlefield!

[deft stump]

I'm actually a black cat. Much unlucky.

[nocturne dust]

Black cats aren't unlucky

They make others unlucky

[west eagle]

Black is pretty

[deft stump]

Naw, I take bad luck from others. It got so bad a DM asked me if I wanted to swap rolls to reverse so lower is better and just finaggle fights for me. I started rolling 20s then.

[nocturne dust]

Well that's just the dice

I once TPKed an easy oneshot team by rolling 8 20s in a row

[deft stump]

We had a ranger who pure max rolled HP live in r20 whenever I'm around.

And I am basically my psyker. Minmaxed to insanity with crazy AC, gets poked once, will be perma dead if not cursed with immortality.

Was 33 AC before it stopped.

[nocturne dust]

Psyker's AC is crap

[west eagle]

The more you play the higher the chance to roll a double 1 with advantage and then kill yourself with wild magic

[deft stump]

Yes, this is 5E.

I had pathfinder AC in 5E.

[nocturne dust]

"Roll a dex save"

[deft stump]

Funny enough, that's not an issue.

Con saves though...

[nocturne dust]

I mean, if you die if you get poked

[deft stump]

_>

[nocturne dust]

the save won't matter

[deft stump]

Yeah, cos no hp.

Why Con saves uhhh... yeah.

I had 24 Cha and 20 Dex.

16 Str, 12 Wis, 14 Int, 8 Con.

[west eagle]

Is this something you get at lvl20? insane stats

[nocturne dust]

dumping con

[deft stump]

No. That's what happens if you roll stats.

[nocturne dust]

Pitiful, 0/10 minmaxing

Lmao, when I roll stats I always get absurd numbers

[west eagle]

Than these are a pretty lucky stats to have

[nocturne dust]

I think my last char had a total of 90 to start with

[pliant rose]

What method do yall use when rolling stats

[deft stump]

Not really. That's lvl 11 btw.

[pliant rose]

My DMs always do 4d6 drop the lowest

[quartz barn]

buy grey, get good distribution, upgrade

[nocturne dust]

roll 4, drop lowest

[quartz barn]

wait wrong game

[deft stump]

More or less that.

DM did allow for 1 reroll for worst stat though if below 8.

[pliant rose]

That method has gotten me 3 characters with 16 as my lowest stat after racial bonuses, but it has also given me 13 as my highest stat

[deft stump]

Cos don't want a 4 Con caster dying on creation.

[west eagle]

So yall just choose a class depending on the god rolls? Potent staff to break the game

[nocturne dust]

My method when DMing is to do the typical 4d6 drop lowest and then everyone can pick from anyone's set of stats rolled

[deft stump]

I just used money to buy 2 +2 stat books to bump Cha to 24.

[nocturne dust]

That way good rolls are good for everyone and it helps keep the party balanced

[deft stump]

Cos uhhh, DM didn't expect my minmaxing to murder a boss too early...

[nocturne dust]

well your first mistake was dumping con

[deft stump]

And we got filthy rich.

[nocturne dust]

[west eagle]

Balanced? This seems insanely strong

[nocturne dust]

Balanced between party members, which is arguably more important

[deft stump]

127 damage on min roll is funny.

[pliant rose]

Balanced with each other no the standard enemies I'm assuming

[nocturne dust]

DM can always just sprinkle a bit of crack on the monsters

[deft stump]

Boss died in 3 turns.

Whoops.

[west eagle]

In my table such a book would cost like a city, so op

[deft stump]

We were supposed to run away.

[nocturne dust]

yeah, wat game was this where you could buy permanent stat books

[deft stump]

Problems of critting half my shots.

[nocturne dust]

Those are supposed to be very rare

[west eagle]

Our DM is so strict that i had to create a business for additional income

[deft stump]

I run the underground food supply.

Private world shenanigans.

[nocturne dust]

Okay but

[deft stump]

Offer what China does.

[nocturne dust]

no amount should be able to buy a book

like that

[deft stump]

Except actually quality to a desert world.

[nocturne dust]

Magical artifacts are literally listed as priceless

[upbeat kestrel]

Found one of those after nat20 percpeption roll

[upbeat kestrel]

Nothing wrong with strict dms

[deft stump]

We had a god as a shopkeeper so....

There is a hard limit to 2 books though.

[nocturne dust]

God should raise his prices, smh my head

[upbeat kestrel]

Dms limit or is it in the item desc

[west eagle]

I manage herbs delivery from island to few cities and renting a yacht

[deft stump]

DM.

[upbeat kestrel]

Fer enof

[deft stump]

Or I would have 20 Con.

[nocturne dust]

Lmao, I'd have 30 everything

[deft stump]

I literally make like min 6 million gold a year afk.

[west eagle]

How about a magic knoife with + to initiative?

[upbeat kestrel]

So like 12 milion electrum

[upbeat kestrel]

Been playing a twilight cleric with dawnbreaker already

[nocturne dust]

See, the DM should throw a few wrenches into that

[deft stump]

Problem is, I did that by his rules.

[upbeat kestrel]

And that campaing fell apart because of scheduling

[west eagle]

Holy hell you have a dream world to play in

[deft stump]

If I am allowed full shenanigans, I could easily multiply that by 10.

[nocturne dust]

Well, yes

[deft stump]

Layered farms.

[nocturne dust]

That is how you get anything

[deft stump]

I did agriculture research to do it lmao.

[nocturne dust]

But that doesn't stop the DM from doing shenanigans

[deft stump]

I have a private dimension the size of France.

[nocturne dust]

Like, to make that much money would surely put a target on you, or on whatever could most easily shift that money making to someone else

[deft stump]

Is part of race.

[upbeat kestrel]

Variant human supremacy

[west eagle]

What race?

[deft stump]

Third party.

[nocturne dust]

Ok. How do you get supplies out of the dimension?

[deft stump]

I need to ask DM.

[nocturne dust]

Well yes

[deft stump]

I can open portals whenever.

[upbeat kestrel]

Star gate

[nocturne dust]

but logically in-world

[deft stump]

There is a semi-perma hole due to trying to give ppl access to another world's internet.

[west eagle]

You are playing with the most generous dm in the world probably

[nocturne dust]

Oh that sounds like major "I'm a free money-making machine"

[deft stump]

Is just part of the race lul.

[nocturne dust]

You would so get a target on your back if it were my campaign

[hearty wolf]

Well I'm about to become racist then

[upbeat kestrel]

Is ,,french,, the name of the race?

[nocturne dust]

Or someone else would figure out a way to infiltrate/portal in

[west eagle]

That this dm gave you, no?

[deft stump]

I mean, I'm either rich or nuking any ST boss.

[hearty wolf]

Sentenced to rolling Steel havoc 50 beta

[deft stump]

Is part of his books so...

[nocturne dust]

10,000 expendables

[upbeat kestrel]

Of were talking dnd races i got to play a succubus

Once

[deft stump]

And proceed to die horribly as the air chokes them.

[west eagle]

Then i am correct, you have the most generous dm in the world

[nocturne dust]

is robot

imagine breathing

[deft stump]

Melt, rust.

[nocturne dust]

Well, now that means you're in robot laser range

[deft stump]

I can just not be there, also cursed with immortality.

She simply just wakes up next day if killed lul.

[nocturne dust]

I mean

I've given my players immortality

[upbeat kestrel]

Yes immortality is a curse

[nocturne dust]

There are many ways to make them fear 'death'

[deft stump]

Not her type.

[nocturne dust]

My players hated it so bad

[west eagle]

This power levels are off the charts lmao

[nocturne dust]

Eeehhhhh, no, it doesn't matter the type

[deft stump]

She just goes back to the day she got cursed.

[vernal temple]

I love goofing around like this on lover difficulties

[nocturne dust]

Regardless of your immortality, all the ways I can make it painful can apply

[vernal temple]

brought the stupid battery from start to finish

[deft stump]

And due to my insanity, she totally has a self implosion thing if needs be.

[nocturne dust]

like disintegrating your equipment

or trapping you in a soul cage

[deft stump]

GL. We had crafting. DM regretted it.

37 AC tank.

33 AC mages.

[upbeat kestrel]

My dm sometimes kills characters if you as a player are stupid as fuck

[deft stump]

Funny thing is, that lasts only till next dawn.

[nocturne dust]

so you're telling me your equipment is highly valuable

[west eagle]

You disclosed so little, but it spoke so much, i hope yall still got a lot of fun

[deft stump]

More like I can make as many as I want.

Is why DM regretted it lul.

The warlock copied my stuff.

I literally gave him the sheets to minmax gear.

Best results for lowest prices.

[nocturne dust]

Oh no

It appears someone has tampered with your minds

you can no longer do that

time to go on a twelve month campaign to solve this issue

[deft stump]

Funny joke is, when we talk stupidly minmaxed team...

Only the barbarian can fall to that.

Mostly cos that's the only newbie.

[west eagle]

So, have you conquered the plane? Waht's the kill count on gods?

[deft stump]

Uhhh, does sleeping with and dating a half god counts?

[west eagle]

No, with this level of allowance. I would be disappointed if you didn't kill at least 5 gods

[deft stump]

We aren't murderhobos.

We just hate how the elves kept arable land to themselves.

[west eagle]

This is definitely not a term for a godslaying

[deft stump]

So we became China but actually good.

Cheaper food for all.

Still rich even then cos so little arable land.

[nocturne dust]

You would think so, but you are incorrect because [insert convoluted lore explanation here]

[deft stump]

As said, 2 of them wanted to become gods. I just wanted to date my other char who is an NPC basically.

The warlock is totally gay for his devil.

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/eat-the-rich-amphibia-hop-pop-gif-26556600

[deft stump]

Then we have the funni gunslinging ranger with more hp than the barbarian.

[west eagle]

I'll allow a goal to become a god in such power fantasy, it is near to killing some of them

[nocturne dust]

Your DM is either really chill or really not ok

[deft stump]

Former.

[nocturne dust]

or this is a very long campaign and sufficient efforts have been provided for this sheer level of brokenness (I doubt)

[deft stump]

If everyone is having fun, why not?

[west eagle]

Have you or your players ever kill a god?

[nocturne dust]

Yes

But they won't be broken while doing it

[deft stump]

Does 'slaying' them in bed count?

[west eagle]

NO SEX

sex is dead

[west eagle]

On what lvl's?

[deft stump]

I technically can make a god not exist once a week.

It would totally break the promise my char made to her girlfriend though unless it was a really evil god.

[nocturne dust]

Uuuuhhhh 9? 11? Somewhere around there. They did it with special ooblie boooblies, it wasn't a direct murder

[upper sun]

sex is banned in any dnd game i play

[deft stump]

T'was implied only.

[upper sun]

best you get is fade to black while i force the players to stare at a wall for 5 minutes

[nocturne dust]

now it's stated

[upper sun]

5 minutes+stamina stat

[nocturne dust]

in any dnd game i play

Dang, you force the DM too?

[upper sun]

i played 2

thats it

[west eagle]

Pretty insane, can't imagine to properly kill a god without some major dickfighting closer to max lvl's

[deft stump]

But yeah, get chill DM, get hilariously ridiculous games.

[upper sun]

🚬 one has been on pause for 15 years

[nocturne dust]

I mean, they had tons of help

[upper sun]

i was a carpet seller half orc

[nocturne dust]

It wasn't exactly alone

[upper sun]

but i guess half orcs are banned now

🚬

wizards of the cost dont support racemixing smh

[deft stump]

Get gud DMs.

I was a sun god cat once.

You get radiation from picking her up when she no rike you.

[upper sun]

aww

[west eagle]

Well it is 2025 after all

[nocturne dust]

5.5e isn't real, 5.5e can't hurt you

[upper sun]

🫂 thanks bro

tbh much like with warhammer

thanks for the game losers but well take it form here

did you guys know you werent allowed to measure distance in warhammer before making a move until 8th edition

[deft stump]

The most fun is 3 ppl playing support to a newbie.

[upper sun]

fucking lmao

[nocturne dust]

btw it also the end of a 2 year campaign in which the players ushered in the apocalypse

they got help from Satan (Off-brand from Walmart)

[deft stump]

A cat familliar, a mimic sword and a riding beast.

[west eagle]

It is nice to gang up with a local Satan once in a while

[deft stump]

We looked for a newbie to play the guy who got picked.

Hilarious power fantasy.

Since the joke was they were late and the kid is now an adult.

And instead of bonking gobbos and such, they ended up bonking a diff 17 creature or something.

[west eagle]

Interesting concept for a oneshot game

[deft stump]

More or less.

Just have those 3 be in on it and find some newer player to play the adult who wished for adventure.

Well, kid who wished for adventure.

They were very late, obviously.

[west eagle]

Holy hell, just played an auric pub with a Smite Main, exclusively smite, no matter how many enemies was in front of him, lmao

[pliant rose]

That's sounds sub optimal

[west eagle]

MAN

[pliant rose]

At least it's not my scriers gaze recon las build (MK VId iirc) pop a celerity stim and gun go brrrrr

[deft stump]

The two walkers.

[upbeat kestrel]

Smoite

I have smite on my shield build mostly because of pathing and oh shit moments

[silver mantle]

Ive had to use it once or twice basically max

[west eagle]

Smiting without a reason actively lowers group DPS, i coul
dn't activate Riposte on sword because of that guy

[radiant frigate]

hordes? smite
elites? smite
specials? smite
lone poxwalker? smite
chaos spawn? believe it or not, also smite

[west eagle]

Believe it or not he tried to smite a chaos spawn

[radiant frigate]

"i'm a support build i'm putting enfeeble on the boss so you do 10% more damage"

S M I T E

[west eagle]

5 minutes we were killing that spawn 3v1

[deft stump]

Just hit harder, is ezy, right?

[earnest sand]

Some just want to be Palpatine

[deft stump]

But they do no damage unlike Palpatine.

[agile laurel]

I like to spam Smite too...

😞

[hearty wolf]

Collecting notes for my hit list rn

Disgusting smite users

This is why Psykers end up being killed at birth

It's fear they'll grow up as smykers

[deft stump]

They just need to be taught well.

[hearty wolf]

Yes

Chop off their hands

Or leave them with two fingers

And a thumb

Then they can finger gun

They concentrate all the power into just the two fingers

Smite evolved

Soulblaze finger gun

Brain burst on every shot

Fan the hammer to instantly get max peril

You can fire as many times until you hit max peril

warp unbound lets you fire infinitely

[gaunt seal]

Shoutout to the havoc forged Psyker who joined my havoc and instantly left when he didn’t approve of our builds. Said “you need to run taunt Ogryn. Waste of my fucking time”
Well he had to wait 45 minutes in penalty purgatory while we won with a bot. What a fucking tool.

Hope he’s in here

[marble crater]

Wasn't me

[upper sun]

🤓 ummm you need taunt

taunt is fucking ass

idc

[gaunt seal]

My shield already taunts everything that can see me lmao

[silver mantle]

It has a purpose

[gaunt seal]

How many taunt ogryns have I seen clear 40… zero

[silver mantle]

But its not "better" than charge

[silver mantle]

Watched some do it

Didnt really have ogryns in my succesful 40s, but thats just by happenstance

[gaunt seal]

The craziest part is it was a havoc 20. I had to ditch my 2000 hour Xbox account to escape error 2014. New account on ps5 pro and no one lets me join havoc so I just have to do it the old fashioned way one hosted game at a time. After clearing 40 with the exact same build 20 with a bot was nothing short of a cake walk

[torn kernel]

hav20 isn't even hard

[gaunt seal]

Downright easy

[silver mantle]

Yee

[torn kernel]

25+ is where you gotta start tailoring builds a little at least

[deft stump]

Unless lights out and nobody brought flashlight.

[gaunt seal]

Was dogs and cranial. Kickback alone makes that modifier easy enough to do blackout drunk

[silver mantle]

Anyway party finder is dumb

Some wild characters there

[torn kernel]

hell i avoid lights out even on regular missions

[marble crater]

I wish I could host a lights out havoc, that sounds so fun

[silver mantle]

Level 31 havoc level 0 guy applyingbfor the havoc 40

Havoc 1-10s that kick everyone because noone wants to be the one hosting the level 1

[deft stump]

No frames and such?

[silver mantle]

No, like a fresh 30

[torn kernel]

i'm actually hav1 rn because i skipped a couple weeks lmao

[silver mantle]

Grey 200 weapons

[deft stump]

This is normal. Till party breaks.

[silver mantle]

1 curio

[torn kernel]

probably doesn't even know what havoc is tbh

[silver mantle]

Yup poor guy

[torn kernel]

"ooh new mission type unlocked"

[deft stump]

Oh. Wondered cos could just be an alt for more builds.

[silver mantle]

Yeah nah

[deft stump]

I question how he did a maelstorm.

[torn kernel]

probably waited for a malice one

i know i did when i first started lol

[deft stump]

Even then.

[patent mango]

+25% dmg to taunted enemies should be in base ability

that'd be 🔥

[radiant frigate]

what the guh

that was an interesting read

[torn kernel]

[patent mango]

evil toxic players be like "ermmm you need point blank barrage"

[upper sun]

🚬

oggie needs so much shit

it doesnt even matter anymore

[patent mango]

its truee

[deft stump]

State of pugs, you know.

[torn kernel]

lmao yeah

[upper sun]

heavy hitter is worse than sustained assault

[deft stump]

Need toothpick, ezy.

[patent mango]

heavy hitter is so boring too

coulda been like a berserk ogryn keystone or smth

[upper sun]

the upgrades for it are ass

they only work at full stacks

and theyre MID

[patent mango]

all ogryn keystones are soooo mid

[deft stump]

Oggy spams heavy already, just delete a row of heds every poke.

[deft stump]

Thus, confused.

Anyway, wanna knoife gremlin around or something?

[gaunt seal]

Dying at the fact I gaslit Psyker chat into becoming ogryn chat 2. Be careful reading bone’ead minds, you might become one

[deft stump]

Eh, all the rejects come here anyway.

[torn kernel]

i literally was just about to close the game

[patent mango]

complaining about ogryn balance is always jolly

[deft stump]

Oh, lul.

[torn kernel]

i might hop back in in like an hour lol

gotta go get some food

[deft stump]

Kay, lul.

[radiant frigate]

ogryn needs to not be forced into Heavy Attack Heavy Attack Heavy Attack Heavy Attack on all weapons

[jovial juniper]

The good news is that enemies would have a harder time detecting you at first

[deft stump]

They just need some love. Not more useless nerfs.

[patent mango]

slopshark pls no more heavy attacks........

[jovial juniper]

Buff Crunch to 200%

[radiant frigate]

fatshark: makes pickaxes, cool weapons with varied movesets
also fatshark: they are on a class that does not care about varied movesets and only has heavy attack synergy

W H Y

[upper sun]

also

[patent mango]

pickaxe at least uses lights

[upper sun]

that class cant vault

[patent mango]

shield is paint dry gameplay

[upper sun]

shield is so shit

[radiant frigate]

GUGS for ogryns when?

[upper sun]

when i play it sometimes i disassociate

[patent mango]

why is point blank barrage 80s

[upper sun]

i legit forget im playing the game on shield

[patent mango]

why does ogryn not have ammo sustain and horrible ammo economy

[torn kernel]

fugs>gugs and you KNOW it

[patent mango]

why is the middle keystone literally just the eepiest thing

[radiant frigate]

excellent point actually

it is more fitting

[upper sun]

calling it now next patch
heavy hitter nerfs
fnp nerfs
lucky bullet buffs

[patent mango]

lmao

[upper sun]

SCREENCAP THIS

[deft stump]

Not even a survivalist field improv vet helps with that, even if they take my share.

[patent mango]

rumbler has like 3 shots

[radiant frigate]

point blank barrage also only useful for uhh twinlinked stubbers

with the fire

[patent mango]

tbh replace heavy hitter keystone with smth similar to warrior priest fury

let my ogryn go angy

[radiant frigate]

raaaa

[upper sun]

nah it works on other sttuff too not as well tho

[patent mango]

ogryn anger bar 🔥

[radiant frigate]

ok but it brings back the point of why the hell is it 80s

[patent mango]

isnt 80s the longest cd lmaooo

[radiant frigate]

longest goddamn cooldown in the entire game

[patent mango]

so hecking over

[upper sun]

because you HAVE to take lucky bullet with it :3333

no choices

[radiant frigate]

2nd longest being like

relic

[upper sun]

you WILL go directly down

[patent mango]

that dont even work with 80% of the ogryn ranged weps!!!!

[radiant frigate]

does it even work with the new stubbers

[torn kernel]

oggy gunshield when tbh

[radiant frigate]

or is that just like#

[patent mango]

eh????????

[radiant frigate]

pointless

[patent mango]

maybe with the fast firing one

[upper sun]

yeah

but its meh

[patent mango]

achlys snoipah not really i think

get ogryn some sniper talents somewhere for achlys stubber

[jovial juniper]

Yes with the Rending instead of fire

[patent mango]

nah we talky bout lucky boolit

[torn kernel]

i want oggy lascannon

[radiant frigate]

but if you're not bringing the fire why bother bringing pbb at all

[jovial juniper]

Fire still an option for the one with 40 bullets iirc

🤷

[patent mango]

burst limiter override should make special kills drop ammo on da floor....

[deft stump]

What do you mean? It's 30 secs.

[patent mango]

probably less

[deft stump]

If you mean book.

[patent mango]

yea

[radiant frigate]

base cd is 60

but it is on zealot

which has 200% cdr in combat

or rather, can have

[deft stump]

If you aren't constantly critting, you already failed.

[patent mango]

bullrush should give invul for the duration tbh

except to nets

cause lol

[deft stump]

If you charge into a net, I think that's your own fault.

[radiant frigate]

hot take, ogryn should not be nettable

do they even have ogryn sized nets

[patent mango]

yea

🔥

[radiant frigate]

dwarf can do this but upscaled dwarf cannot

[torn kernel]

hell, fotf already does that lol

[radiant frigate]

weird

[patent mango]

give sniper ogryn smth like dis

[radiant frigate]

this.. this is just headhunter

[patent mango]

[marble crater]

One of the staves of all time

[patent mango]

powerful

[deft stump]

QUALITY.

[hearty wolf]

Water staff

[silver mantle]

Gushing staff

[radiant frigate]

mood lighting staff

[deft stump]

OMG, FLASHLIGHT STAFF.

[hollow current]

Caramelldansen staff

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-spongebob-party-caramelldansen-anime-gif-19554678

[dire orbit]

If I remember correct warp resist is best dump stat yes?

[eager junco]

ye

[dire orbit]

Good good, glad you got bestest version

[eager junco]

i just spent 10M ordos to find that :V

[deft stump]

Look, you have a flashlight stick as well.

[untold niche]

imagine DT but:
trash deals 3x damage
Dog does 1.8x damage
side sprint gunfire now deals 0.3x damage, slide gunfire now deals 0.5x both no knockback
flamer reverted to nightmare patch with the insane fire damage.
bomber now throws two nades

[deft stump]

You are getting 100 kraks. I don't care how.

[upper sun]

mail em to him

[untold niche]

finally darktide will be intense right when you exit spawn, not when you fuck up
(barring havoc, i havent tried that yet but dont intend to, i heard meta is 2 book zealots, 1 bubble psyker, and idk the last, sounds boring as hell)

[peak kelp]

What's the point of having 15% warp res

[analog agate]

Gets you to higher peril ever so slightly faster

To do more dmg

[clear heath]

honestly i don't think there's much of a point doing that for a staff

[quartz barn]

there is on purg

[clear heath]

you get to high peril with your staff pretty quickly anyways

[quartz barn]

because you combine it with the 40% lower peril gain

so the lower warp res is to get to 80% faster

[clear heath]

or maybe just don't take lower peril gain if that's your goal

[quartz barn]

but now i can get atleast 3 full charge rmbs off between 80 - 100

[eager junco]

warp unbound, warp rider.

[deft stump]

Guy wants late havoc but doesn't want to play havoc.

[clear heath]

okay but why not just use a staff with 60 warp res if you're trying to fit more casts at high peril?
instead of boosting it with a 15 warp res staff and then nerfing it with empyric resolve

taking empyric resolve and taking a 15 wres staff accomplishes opposite things that counter each other

it makes sense for a sword cause you can use it for quick bursts of peril
But it's not really the same thing for inferno, which is just used constantly

[silver mantle]

I need at least 30ish percent for my fg I think

To be able to do 2 trunks slashes without hitting splodey range

[untold niche]

i don't want to play with 2 book zealots thats why :v

i dont even want to play with a single smite psyker

[analog agate]

Book isn’t needed

[clear heath]

Then get a group to agree not to do it

[untold niche]

too lazy, no time.
If thats the meta im assuming pubs would expect 2 book zealots / run it

[clear heath]

you'll want some coordination if you're doing it with no bubble no gold toughness

[analog agate]

I say that as a VB bubble boy who does everything book does better besides some yellow toughness

[untold niche]

whats the havoc meta?
2 book + 1 bubble + (what is the last one?)

[clear heath]

doesn't matter really

[analog agate]

There isn’t a meta like that

[untold niche]

i read it somewhere im not sure

how are havoc pubs like?

build wise

[analog agate]

Combinations haven’t been made a meta

Only meta builds

[untold niche]

ok then what are the meta builds?

[clear heath]

voc vet with nade spam or just another psyker would probably be preferred, but at this point the 3 could carry the 4th guy regardless

[untold niche]

so book zealot and bubble is meta?

[analog agate]

I think bubble is more meta

[clear heath]

you generally want at least 1 of each, more the better

[untold niche]

bubble with toughnes regen? or just bubble

[clear heath]

zealot becomes more important depending on conditions though

[analog agate]

Bubble with toughness regen

[clear heath]

blighted without zealot is...

god forbid there's pox gas

[untold niche]

toughness regen bubble + book zealot + shout vet
:v
Digusting

[analog agate]

Beacon is important yeah. Book isn’t needed imo if you have a bubble (or even 2)

[clear heath]

havoc pox gas is the worst thing to exist

[analog agate]

Really, safely you just want a combo of 2. Bubble/book

[untold niche]

does the pox do like 30% of hp damage per tick

[clear heath]

keep in mind havoc doesn't give you the extra green stims pox gas normally gives you

so you can't just sustain through it

[untold niche]

ok i see why [eople said anti corruption zealot is needed on havoc now

can you choose the modifiers?

[clear heath]

well the anti corruption thing is more for the blight pools

[untold niche]

what are blight p[ools

[clear heath]

where enemies explode into pools of corruption goo

it's basically a nurgle vomit with a weaker slow

but everywhere

[summer prairie]

as psyker it barely matters

worse for melee

[clear heath]

also melee enemies deal a portion of their damage as corruption damage

crusher overhead corrupting you into death

[untold niche]

would like a normal voidstrike build work on havoc
or would i get flamed :v

Like one where i can 1 tap crushers because of surge

[clear heath]

funny

[thorn cedar]

so far as im aware the blight effect is just a carbon copy of the BoN slime

in every respect

[clear heath]

it feels like the slow is less

maybe i'm imagining it

[thorn cedar]

no secondary slow from the BoN stacking vom effects im guessing

[wispy pumice]

does BoN slime make you drop a vacuum capsule while walking through it?

[analog agate]

This was a 12? with blighted. 2 zealots. I thought one of em took beacon. Nope, they all suffered. Drag of a game

[untold niche]

Quick question is book run with critspam for better uptime

Else what is the uptime on book on meta havoc builds

[clear heath]

yeah

[untold niche]

I don't want to fight booked enemies every time there is horde music FUCK

[clear heath]

book cd is insanely long by default

[thorn cedar]

honestly not sure, i dont think ive ever encountered that interaction

[wispy pumice]

Ikr I was thinking like when tf am I running an objective when beast of nurgle is sliming his way towards me

[thorn cedar]

if i ever get the chance

ill run a vaccuum capsule into the slime and find out lmao

[summer prairie]

looks like havoc slime has higher power, I guess it does damage faster

[wispy pumice]

Yeah I’ll try that when I get the chance

[thorn cedar]

i think the havoc slime is boosted because of all the other havoc boosts

[analog agate]

I am sure there has been a bon in monster maels at end events. I have never tried

[thorn cedar]

the same way poxwalkers do more corr damage because they already did some even at base

[summer prairie]

well it has a different template

[thorn cedar]

dont actually know tho

[summer prairie]

BoN slime isn't boosted like that

[thorn cedar]

yea like is slime created by an elite boosted by elite damage boosts or what

[summer prairie]

no

[thorn cedar]

i will say though that while Bacon is super valuable you really dont NEED it

[untold niche]

Ok so I assume I can expect 1 book zealot and 1 bubble each time I play havoc?

[clear heath]

I think damage boosts in havoc are specifically melee damage

[summer prairie]

it uses "templates.cm_habs_tree_in_slime" and the power_levels are 2x BoN's "templates.beast_of_nurgle_in_slime"

[clear heath]

I don't even think bullets deal more damage per hit. They just gain insane attack speed

[thorn cedar]

is that the right template? so its the same slime from the corruptors?

[summer prairie]

pretty sure it's the right one, I followed a trail

[clear heath]

i can believe 2x

shit corrupts fast

[deft stump]

VERY fast.

[untold niche]

The goo corrupts twice as fast as bon?

[thorn cedar]

anyway just learn to hold block and jump a lot lul

[clear heath]

I don't stand in nurgle trail often enough to know how fast that is though

[untold niche]

Goddam

[untold niche]

It's not that fast but like if you keep following him behind you does stack

Ok, do you guys find havoc pubs fun? If you guys say yes then I'll prob go try :v

[analog agate]

Not really

[untold niche]

The gamemode sounds fun but I'm just really repulsed by the book zealots

[analog agate]

You actually have to depend on people unlike mael/aurics. and let me tell you… people let you down. A lot

[clear heath]

Get your havoc 40 so there's less pressure to tryhard

[deft stump]

Let's just say, if you are stupid enough to stand in it, you would massacre a field improv vet medipack.

[untold niche]

As in, I only have to hit it once?

[clear heath]

There's this feeling of "whatever, i have 40 already" that's really freeing

[untold niche]

The people in havoc aren't better than a5maels?

[clear heath]

Penance only cares about reaching 40 the first time
And you won't care about weekly rewards after a couple weeks. The mats might as well be infinite

[analog agate]

They are the same people. Meaning, most not good

[deft stump]

TRUE SURVIVOR.

[brisk rock]

correct, see respective sections: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3318538305

[untold niche]

What are the mats? Plasteel and dia?

[radiant frigate]

untrue die-er

[clear heath]

Also your weekly rank is set to the highest you've cleared that week so even if you cared about weeklies, you could win a 40 and just lose like 30 games and derank, and it'll jump back to 40 next week

[untold niche]

Is kuli one of our dataminers

Name is familiar

[summer prairie]

he does everything

[analog agate]

I will say you do usually get better people ~35. Below that, especially in the 20s. Are the people who have been carried throughout the game

[untold niche]

I saw people mention his name but never saw him type

[untold niche]

Ok then I'm not playing havoc. Everytime bad player is mentioned it brings back the memory of the +5 vet in my a5mael that had a full meta build (pc4, voc) but only knew how to shout at dogs.

[clear heath]

you will never worry about plasteel or dia again

[untold niche]

Can I reach havoc playing like say cknife zealot

[deft stump]

Just find a group of 30+ in one of the mains to jump skip there.

[untold niche]

Mains?

[clear heath]

like a fully finished weapon including a mastery is like what, 6k plasteel?

[zinc phoenix]

i think theyre adding new weapon tier

[thorn cedar]

idk what there is to stress about

[zinc phoenix]

tbh

[analog agate]

Grouping with people in this discord is 80% good though

[deft stump]

If you aren't completely incompetent, they'll usually just take you along.

I jumped from 26 to 40...