psyker-class

[upper sun]

I NEED AMMOO

[sturdy reef]

medicae!

[orchid cedar]

When you I need Healing! When you really want to Thanks!

📍 Look there!

📍

📍

📍

👁️

👁️

👁️

[fiery wigeon]

i use the "enemy there" ping when I want randoms to actually notice

[upper sun]

they wont

[fiery wigeon]

yeahhh...

[deft stump]

I kinda thought the same... Also, trailers kinda said it.

[upper sun]

🚬 he just did the intro 8 times

[fiery wigeon]

the idea that you can spoil this game is boggling

there is no plot to spoil

[upper sun]

nah dude

[deft stump]

We mean Cyberpunk 2077.

[upper sun]

the endings are peak

[fiery wigeon]

oh cyberpunk

[upper sun]

a lot of the quests are amazing

[deft stump]

Also, why is it that everyone goes down halfway across the map from each other on smelter...

I know I have a knoife but...

[upper sun]

@marble crater you have 168 hours in a week the game should have 140 hours content if you dont drag your ass too much
next week i expect a 200 page report so we can talk about it

[orchid cedar]

Or doesn't take the underground entrance in the beginning

[twin hound]

hello

[patent mango]

swagger hecking dies

[upper sun]

hi

[deft stump]

Naw, the finale. Both other vets went down like... Opposites ends of the map.

And the zealot was just chasing after me trying to rescue them.

[marble crater]

No

[deft stump]

Normal heresy btw. Babysitter vet mode.

[orchid cedar]

Sometimes I find myself separated from the group because I become sidetracked and deal with a trash horde or a stray specialist that walks off

Then I turn around and there all gone

[deft stump]

I think they wanted to solo the valves or something.

[fiery wigeon]

wanna get button pressing done asap

[deft stump]

Even when it's safer to just 4 tank through considering their track record.

[fiery wigeon]

i feel that

[deft stump]

More so when one can't even go the kill corruptor solo but went off to try.

.-.

[fiery wigeon]

i love onetapping the corruption eye with fgs stab

[deft stump]

It's not even that.

it's killing the 3 tentacles.

[fiery wigeon]

i know

just sayin things

[granite saddle]

I usually just book it to one of the markers and hope my teammates are also moving their asses

50/50 someone actually follows or everyone stays at a corner killing and not doing the objective

[deft stump]

Can I please go back to being the worst player?

Herding cats gets tiring.

More so when I get on my psyker... i can't herd cats on my psyker...

[fiery wigeon]

the one where you have to travel through the pipelines

[granite saddle]

Did have a round where I did break off alone and managed to break all 3 tentacles and the corruptor by myself because I had VoC

Was playing with a friend and I lured an entire army to them

I gave them a 5 second heads up

[fiery wigeon]

Just kill the army smh

[deft stump]

I would just double frag and be like, wut hordes?

[granite saddle]

I had krak

So

[fiery wigeon]

yeah

oh

L

[deft stump]

Then replace frags with kraks.

Will still thin it down.

But then again, I run lethal prox Boltpistol.

[fiery wigeon]

kraks with their aoe of 3 centimetres:

[granite saddle]

Nah but the reason I lured the army to them was just because I needed to reunite

And all of them were across the room

Once I caught up I turned around and started killing with my friends assistance

[deft stump]

Actually, it's like.... 6-7cm radius.

With bolt pistol shenanigans.

[granite saddle]

Remember my friend panicking a bit when we turned out fine, even got the clip

We got out of this with basically no health damage and they thought we were not in a good spot

[deft stump]

Gotta trust in themselves, I guess.

[granite saddle]

The amount of sudden collatorals I got then

[deft stump]

Does not trust myself.

[granite saddle]

Ngl when I can't tell what the fucks going on I just pray I dont die

[deft stump]

That's a double grenade at my feet story.

If lucky, they get twinned and everything dies.

Except bloody crushers.

[hearty wolf]

Yeah this is a nice funnel, anything is possible here

Plus smite

so

[fallen pier]

does the great force sword need a heavy attack when using the Active skill? or can I just activate and swing

[hearty wolf]

nade and voc was great there tho

[hearty wolf]

can do a light

[fallen pier]

same effects?

[hearty wolf]

Yeah but the swing of the blade has infinite cleave so if you're planning on actually hitting enemies with the blade, it's worth to heavy

it takes 2 nano seconds anyway

ofc if you're at risk of losing your charge, then ye

fire away

[fallen pier]

ahh but it doesnt affect the wave

dmg

[hearty wolf]

nop

[fallen pier]

if i light or heavy?

[hearty wolf]

correct

[fallen pier]

alright cool

thanks

[hearty wolf]

np

[granite saddle]

the voc was just reflex when i saw the pox burster right in my face

[strong gulch]

Next non-havoc mission.
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9df217de-945b-45d8-977d-86e8c4109d4e/purple-sg-fire-trauma-voidblast-lol

[deft stump]

I mean, isn't that what VoC is for? >_>

<_< I totally can push boomers otherwise when playing with anything higher than 30 ping.

[granite saddle]

i normally use it to boost my teams survival a bit when i expect shit to hit the fan

and to try to negate corruption damage

[deft stump]

I'm basically joking btw.

[granite saddle]

but in that moment though it was 100% just a reflex activate and im honestly surprised i didnt get hit by the Burster anyway

[deft stump]

But if you play with over 250 ping, it's the only thing that guarantees a boomer push.

[granite saddle]

my ping is usually 20-40 thankfully

[deft stump]

Is more, it's 5:37AM.

Nobody plays at this hour.

[granite saddle]

4:40PM here

i been up since 10PM yesterday

shit

i been up 18 hours

and i dont feel exhausted yet

[deft stump]

What even is sleep anyway?

[granite saddle]

anyway got better at not killing myself with Peril

[wind spruce]

Why would you? 18 hours is only 2 hours past the average bed time.

[sturdy reef]

Im fucking around with this rn

[wind spruce]

Make that one hour

[sturdy reef]

its not bad

on inferno staff

I almost made it a keystoneless build

[strong gulch]

@wind spruce Play my purple build. #psyker-class message

It's not purple weapons.

[hearty wolf]

Anyone for Auric while potato recovers?

[sturdy reef]

sure

[hearty wolf]

I need dockets for void strike

Okay I baited you

I'm gonna watch this yt video first

[sturdy reef]

wow

[wind spruce]

Hahaha ok

[hearty wolf]

I had nothing good to watch but I just tabbed back in

And there was a good one

So

[strong gulch]

I ate bread. I can try more game.

Gotta feed the critters first.

[hearty wolf]

Kk

I'll be a little

[wind spruce]

Lmk if you need someone for havoc

I have to rest today. Got into a car accident yesterday morning and threw out my neck.

[deft stump]

I just turned off game like 10 mins ago... >_> All of you want kraks.

Mostly cos got tired of herding cats.

It kinda feels better to be the worst player, can slack off more, yes.

[silk reef]

Anyone know why my shield looks like this?

[strong gulch]

OMG. I hope you recover quickly.

Also probably

[strong gulch]

I've seen others have this issue. Everything I see a response, it's always some saying something about the graphics card iirc. I hope that's not the case I am I just misremembering.

[deft stump]

Usually AMD.

[strong gulch]

@hearty wolf I'm back.

@nocturne dust You want to play?

[nocturne dust]

sure

[upper sun]

play what

[strong gulch]

Probably a mael. Sin needs ordos (so do I)

[upper sun]

same tbh

[strong gulch]

[upper sun]

i spent 1 mil on docket slop

[strong gulch]

or aurics

[upper sun]

im running the game rn

ill go pee real quick

[zinc phoenix]

Understandable, it’s difficult to play this game with a hurt neck as you’ll be in overwhelming pain with the whole team on your shoulders

[hearty wolf]

So we're doing true survivor

[split drift]

Did they ever fix the bug with seers gaze?

[sturdy reef]

lol

[hearty wolf]

"The bug"

[zinc phoenix]

You’ll still boom yourself sometimes

[hearty wolf]

Warp unbound is a feature

[split drift]

I'm talking with the charged electric staff

[zinc phoenix]

It does feel less common but that’s maybe because I’m totally unwilling to trust it now 😂

[sturdy reef]

I joined into a lobby thru party finder and this dude is playing tranquility music through an xbox mic

peak

[split drift]

I'm talking with the electric staff charged

[zinc phoenix]

You’ve repeated yourself twice

I’ve given you an answer, don’t like it go test for yourself

[split drift]

Didn't mean to

[sturdy reef]

SG booms you sometimes on specific frames

just stop firing when you get to 97

Ive also never had it happen to me on inferno staff

just the others

and mostly the LMB

[strong gulch]

That is fixed yes. There is still the issue of WU not kicking in right away. So you can explode in a small window between SG ending and WU beginning.

@nocturne dust @upper sun @hearty wolf https://discord.gg/kvjpPs2D

[hearty wolf]

Bzzt

BZZT!!

[vernal temple]

Can you guess how many times I had to clutch? this was a heresy level maelstrom with scab melee only

[upper sun]

2

[vernal temple]

yeah

[nocturne dust]

@hearty wolf shriek

like a little girl

[vernal temple]

shieldring was using light attack all the time

and putting shield down after taunt lol

[vernal temple]

jackpot

[hearty wolf]

No

I want hp >:(

[vernal temple]

AI director said "no"

[maiden oracle]

Should I run flak unyielding or flak carapace on flame staff

For havoc

[modest patrol]

Unironically love those melee-only levels

[sturdy reef]

flak

[deft stump]

kraks.

[analog agate]

Flak unyielding

[split drift]

Ok thankyou

[silk reef]

Yeah. I just hoped that there is a setting I could flip, if it's a known issue.

It only just started happening as well, it didn't look like this yesterday.

[modest patrol]

Inferno go brrrr

[wispy bay]

Krak is fire and forget.

[sturdy reef]

inferno sucks against carapace

[deft stump]

Watch as everyone else rees.

[sturdy reef]

well

just crushers

lol

[wispy bay]

Inferno you need to focus on them.

[sturdy reef]

I flame the crusher to get everyone behind them

[modest patrol]

Tbh I haven’t played much vet

[sturdy reef]

not to damage them in particular

although it helps

[modest patrol]

I get out a big ol inferno blast, then whip out duelling sword on anyone left standing

Then dodge and weave

[wispy bay]

Every now and then, the hobos throw in the flamer.

[deft stump]

Is more, most ppl play it to srsly go melee bonks.

[modest patrol]

If I wanna bonk I go zealot

[wispy bay]

Turn out, the shock maul is super fun to bonk in auric scab melee.

[modest patrol]

Oh man

[wispy bay]

I have Zealot big bonk build and quick bonk build.

[modest patrol]

Thammer and…?

[wispy bay]

Shock maul

Chain axe can go in both of those.

[modest patrol]

I oughta give shock maul some love

I usually run relic blade

It’s just so good

[wispy bay]

Shock maul mk3, keep using heavy

It is why too funny.

[modest patrol]

Takin notes over here

I love Thammer but it is painfully slow, and since I run martyr 99% of the time…

[sturdy reef]

chainaxe sucks ass at horde clear

chainsword is pretty good at it

any melee that doesnt have good horde clear I kinda ignore on any class that isnt psyker

[wispy bay]

Heavy is mostly overhead strike down, quick and decent damage, with falter, you stun almost anything with it.

[sturdy reef]

chainsword sucks at everything else tho

axe can delete bosses

[wispy bay]

Chain axe mk12 is decent at horde clear. The lights have very good arc and it doesn't stuck on target like the mk4.

It can cleave 4-5 enemies.

[modest patrol]

Makin me wanna run with some different weapons for once

[wispy bay]

My main sweaty build for zealot is still relic blade... so strong that it is boring.

[upper sun]

bruh

we get worse the more we play

[nocturne dust]

🤷‍♂️

[upper sun]

no

hungie

[strong gulch]

Clad I'm crying

[nocturne dust]

Nah, just me playing a terrible build and doing nothing

[upper sun]

same

[hearty wolf]

1 person with hand

[strong gulch]

@wind spruce havoc time

[upper sun]

fuck my instant recording didnt take

[modest patrol]

Sometimes gotta mix it up

[nocturne dust]

I'm going to finish my penances and never touch Havoc ever again

[upper sun]

@strong gulch two people wanted you dead big dawg

[marble crater]

Asking for a bit much

[hearty wolf]

Whoever put that skull down

that was the real traitor

[upper sun]

man

[nocturne dust]

it's fine, it was retribution for Potato bursting me earlier

[upper sun]

i was so close to getting that revive 😭

[nocturne dust]

:)

[hearty wolf]

you would have got it if facing the right direction :P

[nocturne dust]

Whenever I type, my hotkey for skull still works

[upper sun]

i dont believe u

[hearty wolf]

is true

[nocturne dust]

uh not true

[vernal temple]

Yeah, melee-only is my fav maelstrom to do as a staff psyker. I also unironically enjoy having weaker teammates, I see it as an additional difficulty modifier

[hearty wolf]

@wind spruce

[nocturne dust]

block is 360 degrees

[hearty wolf]

yes but staminer

[nocturne dust]

flamer

[hearty wolf]

flamer came in later

[nocturne dust]

don't give a crap about your stamina

[upper sun]

i was trying to slide revive to combo more iframes into the revive

[strong gulch]

@upper sun

[nocturne dust]

not true, was already there

[strong gulch]

lmao

[hearty wolf]

should have killed it then

target priority

[nocturne dust]

snipers should be way slower with how their beam follows

[hearty wolf]

nob

[upper sun]

im uploading my pov

[upper sun]

i had no stam

[hearty wolf]

you should get some

is good

10 curios

[upper sun]

😭

chat kill this guy

im a marty i cant afford stamina

[modest patrol]

Yes to both of these. Also, I sometimes enjoy going down to lower difficulties and “babysitting” lower-level players through missions (it’s also like a lil holiday from the madness of higher difficulties)

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/weakness-disgusts-me-madara-uchiha-madara-naruto-weakness-disgust-me-gif-17219305

[upper sun]

if i hadnt fucked up like 5 times tho i would have gotten it

[hearty wolf]

we need

1

1

[modest patrol]

Get that +1 stamina mode sibling

[deft stump]

I dunno man, hearding cats can be tiring.

[upper sun]

no room either

[modest patrol]

RIP

[upper sun]

its ok

zealot tree rework and curio rework will save me

[modest patrol]

It can, but we were all those cats once upon a time

[upper sun]

BELIEVE

[deft stump]

[upper sun]

AFFIRM

[vernal temple]

Yeah, stepping down to normal heresy or even malice if I'm feeling extra lazy

[modest patrol]

What I do whenever I test drive a new build — a brief holiday to Malice

[strong gulch]

@plucky flax You awake?

[upper sun]

wait

WAIT

wait

[patent mango]

zealot tree rework:

• added faithful assault, gives up to 50% swap speed based on Faith

[upper sun]

would bolt pistol special have pushed it?

[modest patrol]

Like my gremlin knife psyker

[deft stump]

But when one of those cats are not a cat but some high ego 40 failure, you just geh...

[upper sun]

im gonna kms

[vernal temple]

pls don't 🫂

[deft stump]

You mean gremlin knoife vet.

[modest patrol]

I do not. Psyker w/knoife

[deft stump]

Well, knoife gremlin anyway.

[strong gulch]

YES

[modest patrol]

I shall 🫡

One day I’ll level my vet

[wind spruce]

You havocing? I'm just about to eat will be free in a tick

[silver mantle]

at least you guys made it to the obsacura den

[deft stump]

GRENADES GO BOOM!

[silver mantle]

[hearty wolf]

We do a run first then

[patent mango]

is light spam on mk6 epic gaming for any enemies? idk if its jolly for anything

[silver mantle]

3/4 of mine didnt make it

[modest patrol]

[patent mango]

i've just been mostly ignoring l4 tbh

[hearty wolf]

ye is correct

lllh

[deft stump]

It kinda works? But only if big enough area to shuffle dodge around.

[patent mango]

l4 buff when

[strong gulch]

@upper sun

[deft stump]

Wait, you mean knoife or?

[patent mango]

fgs

idk whar combos knoife has

[sturdy reef]

none

just spam light or heavies

[deft stump]

Then IDK, light spam knoife always works.

[sturdy reef]

sometimes punch and PA

[patent mango]

its over

[sturdy reef]

[deft stump]

PA gud.

Make sure it hits the hed and ehehe at things.

[patent mango]

i also keep forgetting to figure out best combo for shield damig

uh scab captain shields

[hearty wolf]

H spam

[patent mango]

zam

[maiden oracle]

How does psykinetic aura work

Does it only count my kills or the entire team in coherency

[patent mango]

funny cdr when things die in coherency

[maiden oracle]

So it doesn’t matter who gets the kill only as long as I’m near?

[patent mango]

yea i think so

[wind spruce]

No lol

[maiden oracle]

And the cdr is given to everyone?

[wind spruce]

You have to get the kill

[maiden oracle]

Damn

[deft stump]

You let psykers get kills.

INF chorus.

It mostly works cos I suck at killing things since I roll dice to hit every time I attack, lul.

[patent mango]

actually i think its overhead chaining?

stab does same damage to shield as l4

i have no idea how their shield works tbh

[upper sun]

jeez that took forever to compress down

[wind spruce]

Nice

[upper sun]

this info would have been very useful 30 minutes ago

[wind spruce]

Also you gotta dodge more

[upper sun]

im spamming the dodge button all that time

[patent mango]

yeah idk how their shield works im just gonna overhead chain it tbh

🔥

[lean mural]

sup

anyone got video recs on assail weave?

[wind spruce]

https://outplayed.tv/media/eQO85k

[lean mural]

got damb.

i was insufficiently specific, tho, i actually meant including fgs

[wind spruce]

Are you hoping to learn from such a video or just be entertained?

[analog agate]

https://tenor.com/view/are-you-not-entertained-gladiator-gif-5740471

[maiden oracle]

Literally just swing a bunch and throw out 2-3 assail when you feel like it before swapping back

It really doesn’t matter what weapon you’re using that’s how assail weave works

[lean mural]

learn, ideally.

[lean mural]

isn't there also some hyper-l33t quell cancel tech involved

[maiden oracle]

Not necessary it works just fine without it

[lean mural]

[analog agate]

You don’t qq for assail weave

[modest patrol]

Knoife gremlin

[wind spruce]

Assail weaving is just hitting the button to switch to assail, pressing left click twice and then hitting the button to go back to your other weapon

That's all there is to it

[deft stump]

Don't make me boot the game to counter knoife gremlin you... reeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[lean mural]

qq != quell canceling though?

[modest patrol]

KNOIFE

[wind spruce]

But I'll record my next game for so you can see it, cfk

[analog agate]

No. Quell canceling is just a name for a type of animation canceling

[lean mural]

boss

[languid furnace]

Do it

[wind spruce]

You can quell cancel assails tho

[deft stump]

_> You all need 6 kraks to face.

[languid furnace]

Yes

[analog agate]

I didn’t say you couldn’t. He edited his message after I replied

[modest patrol]

heck yes

I just got on a rolling steel so this won't take long

[deft stump]

knoife boot as well yes.

[half turtle]

qq canceling is weapon swap canceling, where the most common way is to hit Q twice to switch to your other weapon and then back (hence QQ)

[lean mural]

yeah i know

which is why it confused me that i said quell cancel and someone said "you don't qq" as if in response

[half turtle]

quell canceling is tapping R (or whatever button you have bound to quell) at the end of an animation to shorten the backswing

it basically works for any psyker ranged weapon that supports quelling

[analog agate]

Ah I see what you mean. Yeah, I meant qc and accidentally typed qq. MB

[wind spruce]

Yeah that was a confusing comment

[half turtle]

also you can quell cancel really easily by just binding reload to the same key as shoot

[wind spruce]

But it happens

[lean mural]

please tell me nobody does that lmao

[analog agate]

Only works on specific hardware

[lean mural]

can't decide if that's worse than binding tag to shoot

[half turtle]

im using the extra keybinds mod and i have a separate key bound to both shoot and reload

[analog agate]

I assume you were the person who I talked with this about months ago? If so, you really need to say it doesn’t work sometimes too…

[half turtle]

oh idk ive never talked about this here

[lean mural]

peril sweet spot for weave is like ~80% i'm guessing?

[half turtle]

you want 83% on shriek to get max stagger + 6 stacks of fire

[analog agate]

Gotcha. Well someone did. Two of us did testing and it didn’t work for us. But the person provided a video and it did work for them. It is hardware/peripheral dependent it seems.

[upper sun]

nah buinding stuff to the same key works

[lean mural]

oh i thought that was 85 tbh

[half turtle]

oh that's kinda interesting

[upper sun]

if you bind sprint to w it makes sprint cancelling a breeze

[half turtle]

yeah all i've got is "works on my machine" LOL

[analog agate]

We tried figuring it out. But too many variables

It can work though. I agree

[half turtle]

that's fascinating spaghetti actually

thanks fatshark

[half turtle]

i think it's actually 83.33333 because that's 5/6*100, you get 1 stack at 0, 1 stack at 16.6667, etc

[upper sun]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_rollover
prolly more to do with this

[lean mural]

as much as i enjoy dunking on bad coding decisions by the chonky carcharodont, i don't think this is actually likely their fault lmao

[analog agate]

I tried it with my mouse and keyboard. Couldn’t work like the video was showing

[half turtle]

i dunno this kind of "bind macro" is pretty common in other games and i've never seen someone be like "btw binding two things to the same key doesn't work depending on hardware" outside of just now

[lean mural]

[half turtle]

like it's probably at the engine level and not the game logic level but actually fatshark wrote their own engine iirc

[modest patrol]

aaand yup that's over

[upper sun]

do you have a mechanical keyboard or no?

[deft stump]

Is train. Also, need moar knoifes.

[wind spruce]

It's 83.33% to be exact.

[modest patrol]

the #1 problem with the mission

[deft stump]

Ppl not pushing.

[half turtle]

i love train now

the only thing i wish is that venting shriek would stop randomly not doing anything because of z-levels

[wind spruce]

There's no sweet spot for weaving. It's just throwing out assails while doing other stuff. You can do that at 0 peril or at 100 peril (with warp unbound).

[modest patrol]

I got hit with two dogs in a row then trapped

[half turtle]

sounds like a tuesday

[deft stump]

Ah, dunno. Checked mission board, then was like, I'm too lazy to herd cats again.

[modest patrol]

Correct, classic day for a reject

[half turtle]

nothing more classic except maybe net > bursters

[modest patrol]

perhaps there are other knoife wielders who will run with us

[deft stump]

I'm even questioning myself if I just wanna do 4x sedationsedition missions to be done with my psyker.

[analog agate]

No. Analog. Wooting 60HE

[half turtle]

psyker 2 hard

[deft stump]

And yes, the joke is I'm abit eepy atm.

[half turtle]

un petit eep

[upper sun]

if you press 6 keys at once does your computer beep?

[modest patrol]

When I'm sleepy I play zealot

OR when I had covid a couple weeks back, I got REAL good at zealot

[half turtle]

dash zealot is very soothing actually

[deft stump]

Are you trying to make me fall asleep?

[analog agate]

No

[upper sun]

eh the beep its prolly disabled but my theory is it relates to how many key presses your keyboard can handle at once

[analog agate]

Does that translate to mouse too though? Cause when I tested it I also tried binding both to mouse buttons.

[upper sun]

no

[modest patrol]

Y'know what

[upper sun]

theyre handled differently

essentially key presses are multiplexed in a matrix

[deft stump]

Wat?

[analog agate]

This was for lmb EK spam btw. He provided a video showing it allowed him to do it without creating a complex macro

[upper sun]

if you press too many keys too quickly or at once you run the risk of ghosting

🤔

[lean mural]

i thought that aside from creeping flames the point was to keep peril high for stuff like warp rider and one with the warp

[modest patrol]

Taking knoife gremlin psyker to this Malice Dark Communion. Holiday time

[lean mural]

unstable power etc

[upper sun]

if you dont use other keys other than quellshoot it should work better

[deft stump]

I can run as well. Just IDK how much lag.

[modest patrol]

heck yeah friend

[wind spruce]

Well it certainly works for keeping peril high but the main reason is to shoot assails with minimal time investment

[lean mural]

see i wouldn't have expected that because aside from hordes (which fgs is already fantastic at), assail doesn't do a huge amount for me unless i either spam it or use RMB

[analog agate]

I suspect they are doing more for you than you think

[wind spruce]

It will massively increase the speed at which you kill hordes with FGS. It's also extremely good when you're killing elites

[lean mural]

hmb

they automatically target heads when you're looking at things right

even if you swap away from the blitz

[wind spruce]

They automatically target but not necessarily heads

[analog agate]

Wherever your cursor is near

Crosshair*

[lean mural]

that's usually heads. more so if i know i have to aim high to not lose assails in scab ragers' shiny new carapace torsos

i'm gonna fuck with this in the psykhanium a bit thanks siblings

[patent mango]

meta psyker build

[sturdy reef]

nice veteran

[wind spruce]

249 gross

Do you have a 16% toughness curio in there?

[patent mango]

slopshark give psyker 1 more toughness 🔥

nope

[wind spruce]

Hmm weird

[lean mural]

hey here's a thing i'd like:

a mod that shows you what actually downed you. sometimes it's obvious. sometimes it really isn't.

does that exist?

[strong gulch]

gg

[hearty wolf]

We will win eventually...

Rip that smelter finale, should have called for stimms

Or maybe need to reroute

It's just if you do that area later, it's kinda sketchy to get out of

Maybe we escape going the other way

[strong gulch]

Yeah I think middle just had too many guns from multiple directions.

Getting tagged made all momentum go bye bye.

[hearty wolf]

Needed more bubble but no elites :(

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/clint-eastwood-bubbles-gif-6254052548201493847

[hearty wolf]

I'm ready for more

I am over the defeat

Irosk is here

we cannot be held down

[wind spruce]

https://outplayed.tv/warhammer-40k-darktide/d3l7Kb

some basic, low stakes assail weaving

[lean mural]

neat

i've occasionally done that thing where you quell right before peril maxes during scrier's and squeeze another lil bit out of it

i never got the impression it did a huge amount for me but you def made it work

d'you sacrifice one with the warp to be able to take warp unbound?

[wind spruce]

I don't set out to do it as a general rule, but it's become almost instinctual for me to quell a bit if there's a small lul in combat and I can "feel" that if I quell a bit I can get back to proccing crack of bone or tranquillity to keep scriers going

[wind spruce]

This is the build I was running that game

[lean mural]

neat

i had it set up very slightly differently but almost the same

[dusk void]

Hey all. I'm considering upgrading my graphics card to something better than what I have. I want to play this game in 1440p, but can't decide between between AMD or Nvidia. What do y'all reccomend?

[analog agate]

Someone can comment on fsr for their experience. I have had great experiences with dlss and frame gen on the nvidia side

[strong gulch]

@buoyant maple ☝️

[hearty wolf]

I hate frame gen

I hate it so much

FSR with dlss nukes my fame

super stutters

[buoyant maple]

It needs a stable frame pacing

I’ve now used FSR3.1 frame gen and lossless scaling frame gen

They’re ok

[hearty wolf]

It's the input lag

it's

awful

[buoyant maple]

I don’t have access to DLSS frame gen because I bought my laptop before 40-series was a thing

[buoyant maple]

What’s ur system latency

[hearty wolf]

Idk. All I know is I click on enemy when it's off, and it works

[buoyant maple]

Because mine is very weirdly like
<40ms even with FG on

[hearty wolf]

If I click on enemy when it's on

it thinks about it

then responds

It's like I'm playing in the past

[buoyant maple]

Update ur GPU driver maybe?

[hearty wolf]

is up-to-date

is fine anyway

I just won't use it

[buoyant maple]

Frame gen has only felt particularly bad if game’s frame pacing is horrendous

[hearty wolf]

Besides with the 5k series, soon you won't need any real frames at all

[buoyant maple]

Which, in Darktide’s case, is a bit frequent

More frequent than it should be anyway

Worst offenders are ascension riser (first event) and smelter complex (end event)

[paper dust]

what blessing is great on the bfg?

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-bfg-gif-27506128

BFG needs no blessings, BFG takes no blessings

[paper dust]

seriously

[hearty wolf]

Rawr xd

[nocturne dust]

no

[hearty wolf]

It takes level 4 blessings

People seriously take whatever tho

Like legit doesn't matter

[nocturne dust]

I assume you mean the greatsword, which takes whatever.

[hearty wolf]

^

[nocturne dust]

Normally, wrath.

[hearty wolf]

Well.

Usually cleave+crit

But we all use different blessings

[nocturne dust]

Nah, unstable power is a normal pick instead of crit

it's also a normal pick instead of wrath

so yeah, basically use whatever except Warp Slice and Blazing Spirit

[hearty wolf]

I'm pretty sure I use unstable shred

Think I was using assail so dropped wrath since it felt a bit unnecessary

And besides sword special SLASH

[nocturne dust]

well yeah, and?

[prime elk]

shred + recip

[hearty wolf]

Infinito cleave

[nocturne dust]

Warp Splitting + Wrath

More cleave

[prime elk]

unironically a good idea in havoc tbh

[nocturne dust]

I mean

Just take a staff

abandon sword

embrace halberd

[prime elk]

https://tenor.com/view/no-nope-no-way-noo-absolutely-not-gif-20244171

[nocturne dust]

Fatshark, plz, gib halberd

https://tenor.com/view/helbard-halberd-hellebaard-gif-9115381785007593493

[sturdy reef]

I turned off frame gen and the game defaulted me to 1080p

I just noticed it today and changed bacj to native 1440p

No performance hit for whatever reason

[sturdy reef]

U just want billihook back

[nocturne dust]

not a chance

that's not a halberd

[sturdy reef]

Close enough

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/markiplier-hitting-markiplier-gif-23574136

[sturdy reef]

But ya I want force halberd too

Lmao

Why should only the grey knights get all the cool psyker toys

[worthy wasp]

In what way?

[nocturne dust]

Voidstrike prefers Disrupt Destiny

[worthy wasp]

Makes sense

Due to weakspot multiplier shenanigans

Hmm, if I'm looking to keep up bubble that may not be the go to

The cdr from warp charges is 🤌

[nocturne dust]

Psykinetics will do most of the work

[worthy wasp]

Right

[nocturne dust]

but then you'll have to take BB or Smite

and Voidstrike also prefers Assail

[worthy wasp]

So doodoo ability recharge? Ugh

Can't imagine not having fast af recharge

[nocturne dust]

There's a reason the meta is Trauma and Inferno

for Havoc

and for Auric, it's EK

[analog agate]

EK is good in havoc too. I did just as much dmg as you yesterday

Though that required shriek

[worthy wasp]

Feel like inferno is the best staff in a vacuum, psyker abilities naturally lean themselves towards killing specials (bb, assail)

[hearty wolf]

I was using EK in havoc earlier and I was gapping by quite a margin

[worthy wasp]

EK is my fav

[nocturne dust]

Auric, no?

[worthy wasp]

With EK tho bb/assail don't see a ton of usage. Its a great all around staff

[hearty wolf]

No, Havoc

Before that

When you came on I mean

Me and Potato did about 10 games before you were on

[nocturne dust]

You play too much

[hearty wolf]

bzztt

That was Auric

Havoc****

[nocturne dust]

you were running shriek weren't you

[hearty wolf]

Yes but inferno gets all my sb dmg :(

[nocturne dust]

???

No

Not a chance

It's the exact opposite, and is why it ruins Inferno damage

[hearty wolf]

I mean any stack I add onto flamed targets

II was scamming blaze away

but I thought that was cos of ek range and wildfire

[nocturne dust]

Yes, but shriek's range is much larger than Inferno, so shriek wins

[hearty wolf]

o i see

I loved scamming Potato

They swapped to rending trauma :(

[nocturne dust]

You very easily steal stacks and take away Blaze Away 😭

[hearty wolf]

I AM THE BLAZE

I AM THE INFERNO

[analog agate]

I attempted to not do that yesterday. I think I was successful

[nocturne dust]

Yeah you can definitely play in a way that you don't harm Inferno much

but that does lower your damage on the scoreboard a ton

cuz y'know

[hearty wolf]

He was mentioning it

But I insised on zaop

[nocturne dust]

you're not siphoning tons of damage away from other players

[hearty wolf]

zap

zap good

[nocturne dust]

eh

[willow hazel]

I'm noticing some games Assail only generates half peril (5% instead of 10%). Does anyone know what causes this? Can't seem to reproduce in the psykhanium

[analog agate]

I thought the zap was good. Pretty sure I had a lot of kills with it.

Well, kills that mattered

As in shooters and specials

[nocturne dust]

It's alright. Its very consistent damage though, and that makes it look deceptively better than it is

Its main purpose in Havoc is hunting shooters, yeah

[hearty wolf]

I zapped specials

bzzt

[analog agate]

I would never take it though unless I am the third psyker

Vb and inferno better

[nocturne dust]

I would prefer Inferno get the shriek and EK get the bubble, honestly

[analog agate]

Could work too

I would have to play with people I trust to attempt it

[willow hazel]

Zap staff has the best LMB, and that shit is turbo broken right now

[hearty wolf]

I hate that build tbh

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/come-down-son-trust-fall-rule-number-one-dont-trust-anybody-fall-gif-16950396

[hearty wolf]

I do rmb zap

[willow hazel]

Agreed, the LMB is really boring

[analog agate]

It is only a great build with macro

[willow hazel]

Nah it's busted without it

[nocturne dust]

not a chance

[willow hazel]

But at the cost of carpal tunnel

[analog agate]

Even with full auto mod it is just alright

[nocturne dust]

Without animation cancelling, the lmb spam is probably around Voidstrike tier, maybe even worse than Voidstrike, and I consider Voidstrike the weakest staff

[broken carbon]

voidstrike weak

never thought id see the day

i remember when ds4 voidstrike was extremely OP

[willow hazel]

You don't need a macro to animation cancel, but I 90% sure the LMB without it outdamages the staffs anyways

[prime elk]

ngl i constantly see lmb staffkers, they often do top damage, but they're usually also the first ones to go down

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/real-housewives-housewives-bravo-bravo-tv-real-housewives-out-of-context-gif-25728515

[broken carbon]

that tends to be psykers in general

[prime elk]

well yes, but i mean moreso than usual

[broken carbon]

fair

[nocturne dust]

You would be wrong (excluding Inferno because range)

[prime elk]

like the purg guy is still up, but the lmb guy is already bent over d*ggystyle

[nocturne dust]

unless we're not having them compete in the same matches

then Inferno wins provided people don't prevent enemies getting close

[sturdy reef]

Depends on wave density

[broken carbon]

i played a true duo civi with a smite electro m1 spam psyker

was the most boring game ever

[nocturne dust]

I mean I'm just looking at aurics 🤷‍♂️

[hearty wolf]

Tbh

I don't think any "true solo/duo/trios" are relavant for much

[sturdy reef]

I feel like auric wave density isnt that much

[hearty wolf]

True solos are v.cringe imo

[sturdy reef]

But h40 kinda skewed things

[nocturne dust]

[hearty wolf]

"haha look at me, I'm a zealot with a knife and can hold m1 through everthing!!"

[willow hazel]

LMB is like columnus without damage falloff or reloading, its absurd. Then you can cancel it for an extra 50% damage

[nocturne dust]

I get that Havoc released and made wave density way worse

but play a sedition match to see true 'low density'

[sturdy reef]

True

I also find electro rmb more boring than lmb

[broken carbon]

there’s a difference between true solo and speedrunning tbf

[sturdy reef]

Granted I only run the electro lmb for a few runs before I switch back to vb or inferno

[willow hazel]

The surge RMB also has cancel tech, but it's way more chill than the LMB one

[sturdy reef]

But electro lmb is so fucking cranked lmao

[hearty wolf]

That do be true. It's just, I hate not killing things

I play game to kill things

but unfortunately, that is not the objective

I loved FoW

Cos all it was, is killing things

[worthy wasp]

Def want to see beam staff from vt2

More staff variety would be good

[hoary leaf]

the trauma staff is the ground blast one yeah? whats the Voidblast do?

[nocturne dust]

Voidblast is trauma

Trauma was renamed to Voidblast

[hoary leaf]

oh, was 100% looking for a trauma staff

they should have named it rupture or something

[fiery wigeon]

fatshark doing it's best to obfuscate and confuse information

[nocturne dust]

You can thank Fatshark for the rename

[fiery wigeon]

the objectives are there to actually make you move around and adapt

[hoary leaf]

2 follow up questions, what are the blessings to aim for the 2 Hander Sword and when will they get rid of the Masteries tab telling me I have more points for my electro staff

[wind spruce]

It was actually me, I suggested it

Feed me your hate

[hoary leaf]

would unstable and shred be a good combo?

[fiery wigeon]

yes

[wind spruce]

I'm pretty firmly in the camp of you should always run wrath on FGS but if you don't want to, yes, those are fine blessings

[fiery wigeon]

I'd recommend wrath + dmg or crit blessing though

yeah wrath is really fuckin good

[wind spruce]

Yeah it's top notch

[willow hazel]

I think most people prefer Riposte to Shred

but it's mostly preference

[fiery wigeon]

i prefer riposte personally

[wind spruce]

FGS cleavers 3 bruisers at base. 6 with warp splitting. 9 with wrath. 12 with both.

[nocturne dust]

I prefer shred

[wind spruce]

I'm coming round to shred

Just too good at CCing to have things to dodge

[willow hazel]

I like riposte until my team brings a lot of CC

[fiery wigeon]

high range sweeping attacks being given a massive cleave boost is good as it turns out

[wind spruce]

Also wrath helps you build the special faster

[fiery wigeon]

ngl i don't find myself using the special much

but it's a really good sword without it already

[wind spruce]

Because the actual condition for gaining special juice is to damage enemies within one second of them dying NOT killing them outright

[willow hazel]

the special is kinda nutty, probably worth figuring out how to use it

[wind spruce]

Ive been practising using the special wayyy more

Almost spamming it

Treat it like the illisi

[fiery wigeon]

i should probably be using the 1 bar of charge special more often

my issue is that when i get 2 bar I'm thick in a crowd and will prob get flinched out of it before i can launch it

so i just keep m1ing instead

i never used illisi ngl

i always liked deimos

[analog agate]

Agree with Irosk. Love wrath on fgs

[fringe garden]

The trick to getting the special off in a horde is good dodge spamming while charging and releasing it

[wind spruce]

It's very possible to just dodge at the right moment and not get flinched out. Gotta keep practicing

https://outplayed.tv/warhammer-40k-darktide/d3l7Kb

Like in this clip

[minor wedge]

Hello siblings!

[fiery wigeon]

oh wow

that was somethin

i don't think I'm that cool lol

[minor wedge]

As some of you may recall, I had recently discovered the wonders of assail. Let me tell you, assail and voidstrike are SUCH a wonderful combo.

[fiery wigeon]

dont they mostly perform the same job

[raven mountain]

assail ime hits crowds harder, and voidstrike hits armored elites harder.

[wind spruce]

THIS GUY GETS IT

https://outplayed.tv/media/eQO85k

Assail weave voidstrike is

[minor wedge]

Hell yeah

The amount of clear potential that has

its so satisfying

[fiery wigeon]

id rather have psykinetics and get to spam vent more for the crowd control bit

[worthy wasp]

Shred + Wrath is goated

[raven mountain]

Cool, that's an option.

[wind spruce]

Assail has better CC than vent tbh

[raven mountain]

Assail + shriek is a thing, too.

[worthy wasp]

Assail 🤮🤮🤮🤮

[minor wedge]

I love how you can hear the voidstrike staffs projectile hit through every single body

that repeat symphony of splats is beauty to my ears

[fiery wigeon]

the fuck are you on about

[worthy wasp]

Assail is only useful when there is already another psyker in the group running PA

[wind spruce]

Vent is one very brief stagger on a cooldown

Assail is a spammable high-stagger ability

[worthy wasp]

Very brief....?

[fiery wigeon]

the entirely obstacle ignoring 30 meter death blast is the best CC in the game

[raven mountain]

0.o?

That's a take.

[worthy wasp]

You think about the cooldown because you dont use PA because youre stuck using the trash assail which does fuck all vs carapace

[wind spruce]

If you think being bad against carapace makes assail bad you don't know how to use assail

[worthy wasp]

Assail isnt bad in a vacuum

Its the fact that it locks you out of PA that makes it bad

[wind spruce]

Assail, even after all the nerfs, is still a ridiculously strong option

[worthy wasp]

PA lets you use the best parts of not only your kit but everyone elses more often

[raven mountain]

That is definitely its big drawback. That being said, assail is still strong.

[worthy wasp]

What can Assail do that a staff cant

[wind spruce]

Super cringe to think assail is never worth taking because of PA, let's be honest

[wind spruce]

Clear dispersed enemies

Be weaved in amongst other attacks

Stagger groups of elites a moments notice

[worthy wasp]

Smite can be weaved too

[raven mountain]

Assail clears wide crowds and long distance.

[wind spruce]

LMAO

That's not what weaving is

[worthy wasp]

People use smite horribly wrong

[wind spruce]

Assail weaving is swapping to assail very briefly then swapping back

[worthy wasp]

Smite can be weaved in the same way

[wind spruce]

Sure, you can hit two targets and do no damage

[sturdy reef]

You need to hold smite to stun priority targets

So no

[wind spruce]

Where as assail can clear 8 enemies for the same time input

[worthy wasp]

Either way, I wouldnt recommend smite or assail

Assail locks you out of PA

[wind spruce]

Cringe

[raven mountain]

Say it more and someone might be convinced.

[sturdy reef]

PA isnt strictly needed

Gunker does just fine without it lol

[worthy wasp]

How many elites spawn in a game? How many extra ults is that per match?

[wind spruce]

Don't listen, psykers, assail is strong af and is a true contender vs PA. Is it the havoc 40 meta? No. Does that matter? Also No.

[wind spruce]

You been watching too much tanner

[sturdy reef]

Tan my ballsack

[worthy wasp]

I'd argue thats moreso due to Scriers being overtuned

[nocturne dust]

Scrier's has such an easy cooldown tho

[worthy wasp]

Scriers is a boatload of buffs

[nocturne dust]

Yes

[worthy wasp]

With absurd uptime

[sturdy reef]

For as long as you keep it

[worthy wasp]

Its prob overtuned tbh

[nocturne dust]

and that's why you don't need Psykinetics for it

[sturdy reef]

And it gets exponentially harder to keep it

[nocturne dust]

technically it eventually caps once you get max buffs

[worthy wasp]

Psykinetics does reduce the CD while its active

But not needed there

Thing is, PA benefits the whole team

[nocturne dust]

Screw the team

[worthy wasp]

More VoC, more books, more guaranteed crits, more bubbles, more VSs, etc...

[fiery wigeon]

if you're killing things it's probably staying up

[wind spruce]

Dude we all know PA is good

Extremely good

[minor wedge]

Literally or figuratively ?

[fiery wigeon]

shit spot though

[wind spruce]

It's just cringe to say I never recommended assail because of it

[raven mountain]

^

[thorn cedar]

incredibly shit spot

[wispy bay]

Team gets higher numbers than you? Can't let that happen.

[thorn cedar]

notching that -5% peril gen node is such a fucken waste of a talent point on the way to PA

also i dont care cause MM

[raven mountain]

Mmmm, MM good.

[sturdy reef]

I almost thought you mean oerilous assault

That node

Might be the worst in the gane

Game

[wind spruce]

This is why I run charged strike gunker so I can have both

[thorn cedar]

perilous assault is a pretty good node. on the wrong class.

[worthy wasp]

PA should be accessible to all Psykers, regardless of build.

[fiery wigeon]

whats perilous assault

[sturdy reef]

Imagine if vets swao speed node was 50% instead of 25

[thorn cedar]

weapon swap speed

[fiery wigeon]

oh

right

[thorn cedar]

50% would be juicy for every other class that isnt psyker

[fiery wigeon]

lmao

[sturdy reef]

I already use exe stancr as quickswap for bolter

[wind spruce]

Assail would need to be nerfed if PA was accessible to it

[sturdy reef]

Takes 2-3 business days to equip

[wind spruce]

It's already super strong

[thorn cedar]

PA already needs to be nerfed lmao

[sturdy reef]

[thorn cedar]

the strongest aura in the game isnt even an aura node

[nocturne dust]

Eeeeeehhhhhh

Hold up

[worthy wasp]

Yeah tbh PA should be nerfed as is

[fiery wigeon]

every other class gets funny massive cooldown reduction :(

[thorn cedar]

we do too

[sturdy reef]

5% is only relevant in upper difficulties

[thorn cedar]

warp charges

[fiery wigeon]

wait does ogryn have one

[wind spruce]

It's ridiculously strong man

[sturdy reef]

Hes

Yes

[thorn cedar]

this one is shared though which makes it absurd

[sturdy reef]

Ogryns is 4%

[nocturne dust]

Let's hold up

[wind spruce]

Extremely low time input for huge killing power, ridiculous stagger

Turns specials into non-threats

[nocturne dust]

Psyker's true power only really manifests inside Havoc, which is not a mode that should be balanced around

[fiery wigeon]

warp charges has the problem of not being DD though

[nocturne dust]

PA isn't that absurd in normal aurics

[thorn cedar]

it's not like Psyk Aura being strong is a recent discovery made with Havocs

it has always been the best aura in the Psyker tree and one of the best nodes

[nocturne dust]

Sure

[sturdy reef]

warp charges doesnt need to be DD

[wind spruce]

Psyk aura needs a cooldown

[sturdy reef]

PA is very strong

Could have an icd or be lowered to like

[thorn cedar]

it do, internal cooldown is all it needs

[sturdy reef]

3 or 4 percent

Also nerf duelist

[nocturne dust]

I have zero faith in Fatshark's ability to balance things tho

[sturdy reef]

[worthy wasp]

Abilities are good. Using them more is good.

Anybody that thinks Tanner discovered that is suffering from more brainrot than he is

[wind spruce]

I suggest a 30s cooldown

[thorn cedar]

im fine with the IoD treatment

longer cooldown, not a bulk effect

[wind spruce]

No one's suggesting tanner discovered it

[fiery wigeon]

[sturdy reef]

I watched Tanner for 5 seconds

[wind spruce]

It's just obvious when his fans come in here parroting all his talking points

[sturdy reef]

And stopped

[minor wedge]

Question, how do I best do that penance of 50% headburst damage on a monstro in a private heresy or above without blowing myself to the warp?

[wind spruce]

Quell between brain bursts

[sturdy reef]

Id go empowered psionics BB

Also solidity

For greater quell speed

[worthy wasp]

I disagree with a good amount of what the guy says

[raven mountain]

EP BB and shriek or double wall.

[worthy wasp]

But that is one point that I agree with

[sturdy reef]

The penance just wants BB

[wind spruce]

Nerf duellist buff precog

[sturdy reef]

Yes

No wait

[wind spruce]

Precog has suffered for too long in the F tier

[sturdy reef]

Buff warp unbound to 20 seconds

[wind spruce]

YES

[sturdy reef]

Obviously

[minor wedge]

[sturdy reef]

Remove the explosion bug

On it

Buff to 20 seconds

Remove PA

Giga brane

[wind spruce]

Keep explosion bug

Buff to 30s

[sturdy reef]

100% uptime

Holy

Gigachad

[raven mountain]

Shit, even just removing the explosion bug would make me happy.

[wind spruce]

Honestly explosion bug has happened to me 5 times out of literally thousands of scriers

Just don't worry about it siblings

[sturdy reef]

It only happens to me on lmb spam

[raven mountain]

Happens to me nearly once a game.

[wind spruce]

Laugh at the 0.01% chance when it happens

[thorn cedar]

but when it does happen oh boy

its always when youre clutching

[minor wedge]

"Explosion bug"?

[worthy wasp]

Issue is this game isn't solo, its 4 players.

So any node that benefits 4 players should not be looked at in a vacuum.

If they changed PA to only effect the Psyker, it'd still be incredibly powerful. But it benefits the whole team

[clear heath]

it happened to me once but the trauma will never go away

[minor wedge]

Can someone elaborate?

[sturdy reef]

I hate the bug

Ok

So

When you go to 97%

And have warp unbound

There are a few specific frames where if you gen peril

You go boom

[worthy wasp]

Nah, what I hate is when I push a Poxburster and I still get damaged by it

Skill issue?

[wind spruce]

Yes

[sturdy reef]

Its not a skill issue

[minor wedge]

Oh I see

[wind spruce]

Slide backwards after the push

[minor wedge]

and I know something more infuriating

[raven mountain]

It doesn't help that one of the few builds I run it with is assail, and spamming assail seems to hit those couple of frames consistently.

[minor wedge]

Placing your shield down againt a poxburster

[sturdy reef]

Its infuriating to me

[minor wedge]

only for someone to run through it and blow it up anyway

[fiery wigeon]

I've been having weird issues with bursters recently

[sturdy reef]

I can quell cancel manually pretty quickly

[fiery wigeon]

very annoying

[sturdy reef]

Ive had a game where 5 poxbursters didnt explode after I shoved them

Edgebursters

[fiery wigeon]

yeahhh

[wind spruce]

I pretty much only run gunker with assail these days and it's still rare for me

[worthy wasp]

I don't die often, but when I do its because I pushed a Poxburster and it still damaged me

[sturdy reef]

Just take the poxbursters for a walk

[wind spruce]

I did manage it once with FGS special, was not happy

[sturdy reef]

Inferno lmb with blaze away

You stagger them like 3m each time

It knocks them down