psyker-class

[nocturne dust]

Unarmored for what reason? What is unarmored and can survive revolver? Just for reference

[fickle nacelle]

aight thats what i was thinking

[thorn cedar]

waking up early and tying their shoelaces before the fight starts

[buoyant maple]

Dreg gunner

[hearty wolf]

I'm just

killing stuff

smacksmacksmack

[fickle nacelle]

cuz when i get cliffhanger done its also gonna complete 3 other penances and probably more

[fiery stratus]

Happens

[marble crater]

I think I will wait for the Vet guide to have example builds and then just use those

[buoyant maple]

I just sent 2

And I’m basically done updating the word version

I’m just working on steam version

[restive nymph]

anyone got a freaky psyker build? and by freaky i mean braindead.

[marble crater]

The ones with weapon specialist? I am looking for Plasma, Revolver, Reconlas and Vraks builds, would they work with that? I have some, but they can probably be better

[buoyant maple]

yea

they work with that

plasma is the only one that benefits from a different build (focus target) for base game

but on the left side build

u can cope with the red nodes for its breakpoints

so it's maybe 90~955% consistent breakpoint instead of 100%

[marble crater]

Okay, and what should I drop for Onslaught and Deadshot for example? Or should I just not take them in the first place

[marble crater]

Braindead as in really easy to play?

[buoyant maple]

onslaught is not worth 95+% the time

deadshot is not worth 90+% the time

[near wyvern]

Electro LMB Smite in Atheneum

Can't get more brain dead than that

[restive nymph]

as in i dont need to do anything special just shoot and stab

[near wyvern]

Spam LMB with staff and then smite RMB on horde, melee is only for movement

[patent mango]

probably like infantry autogun and uhh ds or force swor

then scriers disrupt destiny

[marble crater]

Sadge, I always picked both for Vraks and Reconlas because I thought they are mandatory

[near wyvern]

Can watch Netflix while playing Auric maels

https://youtu.be/yrOmLUfNMw4

[marble crater]

What Pygex and Warudo suggested, or EP smite with vent, it's braindead and also cause braindead

[patent mango]

vraks infantry autogun or reconlas work

[buoyant maple]

nah it's not needed if u have good melee weapons

[patent mango]

heavy laspistol is also nice

[marble crater]

So Rashad or DS4 then

[buoyant maple]

The thought process goes like this

Do you have a strong anti-armor melee weapon?
Yes -> no onslaught
No -> Do you want to use a strong anti-armor melee weapon but it costs talent points to be optimal?
Yes -> spend those points on melee, don’t run onslaught
No -> Do you really want to magdump crushers with your gun?
Yes, with Vraks V / Recon XII -> run onslaught
Yes, but no specific ranged weapon in mind -> Boltgun + executioner’s stance
No -> what are you doing?

[near wyvern]

I have seen this chat turn into a Zealot chat but is the 2025 the year of the Veterans?

[buoyant maple]

I was summoned here against my will

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/812451078221463632.gif?size=64

[near wyvern]

I am not racist just curious

[cold ivy]

psyker is exactly the same as veteran, except for all the ways in which they're different

[patent mango]

hmmm i feel like power fist might be peak for vet

[marble crater]

Guess I will change some builds, thank you

[buoyant maple]

I don’t like duelling sword (because it’s cringe)

[hearty wolf]

rashad

rise up

[marble crater]

What do I replace my stam curio with now that I don't need it for deadshot

[marble crater]

Still early, could also become ogryn. Abhumans unite

[buoyant maple]

2 toughness, 1 health (havoc)
2 health, 1 toughness (base game)

[marble crater]

And then health, toughness and cdr perks?

[wispy bay]

2 toughness 1hp is my standard.

[upper sun]

no

vet bad

zealot and psyker are the only real classes in the game

[wispy bay]

I don't really run cdr on vet because of Tactical Awareness.

Well, actually, never run cdr perk on curio because of Tactical Awareness.

Maybe Infiltrate 2 stacks build? but that one is a very unconventional build.

[buoyant maple]

Nah, CDR on veteran is fine (especially for havoc)

[wispy bay]

There are enough specialists that the flat cdr works well enough for me. Nevertheless, if you say that it is fine, then it is.

[buoyant maple]

It’s -3.6s for VoC / exe

It’s alr

With a psyker in team (CDR aura) it goes down to 23.4s CD

[deft stump]

You mean 0 sec.

Psykinetics on 3 psykers is some wild drug.

[buoyant maple]

Nah

Tac awareness is far better at cutting CD than psykinetic’s aura

[clear heath]

Doesn't work on elites

[buoyant maple]

But it’s essentially permanent gold toughness coverage

[deft stump]

It's more of a joke.

[clear heath]

I like killing a pack of shotgunners and watching the cooldown go zoom

Look at that cooldown reduction
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1315875922703941663/fgs_havoc_shotgunners.mp4?ex=6777fbb3&is=6776aa33&hm=8bc0377799e08e3949225546e2243908a36891776a7104cf3fa89ff02767d35a&

[buoyant maple]

4 elites with psykinetic’s aura is as good as 1 specialist with Tac awareness

[clear heath]

nothing brings me more joy than mowing down shotgunner packs

vengeance against pre-nerf shotgunners with their 300 damage

[patent mango]

theres so many different bars in ur screen

[clear heath]

more bars = more damage

[patent mango]

big if true

[deft stump]

You mean boxes?

[restive nymph]

what perk/bless for voidblast force staff?

[verbal thistle]

crit or non crit build

[restive nymph]

crit

[verbal thistle]

nexus, blazing

flak/maniac

some do flak/crit chance

[restive nymph]

thanks boss

[nocturne dust]

I tried to keep us safe by blowing up barrels

Apparently the rest of the team had other ideas

[fathom dust]

Alright, just gotta ask cuz this video intrigues me. How can I get that information on how many dodges I have left? Is that a mod?

[clear heath]

yeah

I'm using the Show Remaining Dodges mod for that

[fathom dust]

thanks

[upper sun]

@nocturne dust@hearty wolf you guys doing a duo or what?

i need to repent for my failings

are you guys gonna do more?

sec i think sparky is dying

stu is at 3/4

i think he might need a join

ok i cant join him

BACKUP INC

they failed

@hearty wolf no they died

[marble crater]

Not our fault really

[deft stump]

We had constantly switching nubs.

IDK how to babysit with enough lag.

[upper sun]

i was trying to join for 4 minutes

@marble crater@deft stump

[marble crater]

4 minutes ago you could have saved us

Also, why does it say highest havoc this week is 0 when I did a 40?

[deft stump]

Is just boss happened.

[wispy bay]

I did 5 times Havoc 40 and it is still 0 as well.

I did many other Havoc and it doesn't update at.

[analog agate]

All do flak/crit for blaze trauma. Well, 99%

[upper sun]

@marble crater@deft stump im out you two can join them

[strong gulch]

@hearty wolf https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxcH5gI3aGAykTzJyKRUf8v9xiQSaKcDMB?si=ZNHdL1be7T11UBbe

[hearty wolf]

:(

[strong gulch]

It's my favorite part.

[marble crater]

Join who?

[deft stump]

Who?

[hearty wolf]

Us

[marble crater]

Whatcha doing?

[hearty wolf]

maelstrom

[deft stump]

Naw, not doing auric since chasing Auric Examplar. Got tired of being left to die.

Even if there's a shield Oggy who could easily pick up a teammate after they lured a boss to block the path.

And when the boss changed aggro, could easily pick said teammate up.

Too tilted rn.

[hearty wolf]

we would have been as 4 ;;

[nocturne dust]

we could carry you

[deft stump]

Tilted though.

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-fade-fade-away-disappear-evaporate-gif-16638726229780416323

[deft stump]

Well, after we chase bottle penance.

[strong gulch]

Do you need a 4th??

[hearty wolf]

ye

get in now

[strong gulch]

kk

[hearty wolf]

you got like 33s

hurry

omg

the chaos gods are coming

[strong gulch]

start private

[weary crane]

@naive ember

We lost this one but i average around 3k dmg per game

[strong gulch]

full lmao

[nocturne dust]

oh

I fatal errored

[strong gulch]

ummm

[nocturne dust]

Don't worry is fine

[strong gulch]

oh oops

restarting

[hearty wolf]

https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1042857623285940234

[modest patrol]

Greetings for the new year siblings

[nocturne dust]

Most boss damage on Voidstrike

[hearty wolf]

That was really fun imo

[strong gulch]

noice

[nocturne dust]

I just found it stressful

[strong gulch]

I went the wrong direction lmao

[hearty wolf]

Oh sorry 😭

[nocturne dust]

Nah it's fine

[hearty wolf]

Was that why you were always stuck in random corners LMAO

[nocturne dust]

"Let's just rush through"

Me on the slowest weapons imaginable:

https://tenor.com/view/sad-fade-fade-away-disappear-evaporate-gif-16638726229780416323

[hearty wolf]

Trust me

I know

I was using fga

fgs

and syllo and agent

were on combat knives

agent on stealth

I was on fucking bubble

literally impossible xd

[nocturne dust]

It wasn't even corners 😭

[strong gulch]

So they were mega go. We could have SG with speed boost and DD with knife and mostly kill marks for the speed. lmao

[nocturne dust]

I was literally just behind you guys

In open hallways

[strong gulch]

So you got all of the things

[nocturne dust]

trying to deal with the multitude of enemies passing me by

Half of them trying to kill me, the other half running past

[hearty wolf]

I was chucking as many grenades back as I could xd

Vet CC is just

not okay

it's so much

[nocturne dust]

Bro, I never even saw the grenades

They were nowhere near me

[hearty wolf]

they were, trust

xd

@strong gulch you were a bit closer, was it okay for you?

[strong gulch]

I had trauma, so I was fine. I could go where I wanted.

I also had DS so I could keep up.

[zinc phoenix]

I’ve been doing smite/bubble/dd with a mk8 and zap stick to get around the “you need fast bubble CDR and horde clear but are slow” issue

[strong gulch]

Though, I easily get turned around and distracted. So sometimes I need knife just to keep up with someone on illisi.

[hearty wolf]

Very cool

as long as you enjoyed i

t

[strong gulch]

yes was fun

Got em tho.

dodged that dog too

[deft stump]

Why are pugs so bad even on Damnation?

It feels like playing malice all over but harder.

[hearty wolf]

You win some, you lose some 😭

[strong gulch]

Neither the dog nor I could do our jobs. 🫡

[hearty wolf]

It's okay because in the library, we all did

they died, we survived

and now I have my penance compelte

[deft stump]

Also, when crushers take 12 shots to kill, you know you are LAGGING.

[nocturne dust]

nah, that's just me on vet

[deft stump]

I should kill on 4 shots.

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/miss-airball-air-ball-shoot-and-miss-missed-gif-11657778340703439411

I can't aim

[deft stump]

I use bolt pistol.

Mostly for big boomy.

[nocturne dust]

Sin warned the boss, boss didn't listen

[strong gulch]

Hahaha I was wondering what happened. "Were did the boss go??" oh well tra la lala

[nocturne dust]

Nah, you weren't there 😭

That was when you abandoned us

[strong gulch]

souns like me

[strong gulch]

maybe that's a good thing tho

[hearty wolf]

I was gonna do it but I was worried if I VoC'd, the person grabbed by the mutie would fall into the abyss

[nocturne dust]

VoCing a mutie grab immediately drops the person next to them

person would be safe (unless they walk the wrong direction)

[hearty wolf]

Indeed, that's why I wanted to not do that

Cos uh

I'm 99% sure I have murdered people

by chorusing a mutie

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/sacrifice-evil-bosses-shrek-lord-farquaad-some-of-you-may-die-gif-16648565

[hearty wolf]

and they just drop off a ledge and die

[nocturne dust]

I've yet to see it instantly kill someone 🤷‍♂️

and I didn't mean to, but I did only shout after the mutie threw the guy

[hearty wolf]

Either way

It was very fun

It actually engages my brain much more going at that pace but it's suspiciously easy

I just need my last curio and it's havoc time

@buoyant maple Does Rashad still have killing potential in h40? Cos it's like 3 bonks atm. 6 bonks sounds like a lot :/

[buoyant maple]

Yea it’s basically the best veteran melee

It only runs into problems with Moebian 21st if your team somehow doesn’t have a psyker that flames everything

You kind of need red nodes for it to perform as good as it can tho (for havoc)

This is for havoc

[hearty wolf]

That's uh

That's actually what I'm running

The only point difference is the one above

[buoyant maple]

With red nodes active, Rashad vs elites is:

4 hit mauler (3 if 1 crit)
4 hit crusher (3 if 1 crit + 200 team damage)
3 hit bulwark
3~4 hit dreg rager
3 hit scab rager

[hearty wolf]

Erm

The aura

I went left side instead of right

But I might be able to drop that once I have real curios

[buoyant maple]

What aura

[hearty wolf]

Survivalist

[buoyant maple]

Yea take survivalist if you’re the only veteran on the team

For havoc

[hearty wolf]

I meant the node just above survivalist. I take the one on stamina break instead of toughness when no enemies are nearby.

[hearty wolf]

4 is actually really good with how fucking fast it hits

[buoyant maple]

GBITF is not as good as catch a breath

[hearty wolf]

Does it also 3 hit reaper too then?

[strong gulch]

I am so naturally inclined to wonder in the wrong direction that I refuse to allow blame to put be put on anyone but me if that happened.

Like even in real life. I have a mobility disability and walk with a cane AND YET people couldn't keep track of me while I wondered off to look at moss. lmao

[buoyant maple]

With red nodes it does like 2427 damage per heavy atk on unyielding weakspot

So it’ll 3 hit bulwark (7200hp unyielding) and 3 hit reaper (6000hp unyielding)

Wouldn’t recommend going for melee vs reaper unless u have them staggered/suppressed

[hearty wolf]

Yeah ofc or they brr you

But good to know

Very good

[buoyant maple]

It’s higher damage than duelling sword vs unyielding

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/812451078221463632.gif?size=64

[hearty wolf]

I'm quite excited to try it. I just hope I'm outputting enough damage.

I saw some mention of uncanny with bleed nades does big damage

[buoyant maple]

Yea uncanny is broken op

Veteran is like 3rd best class for havoc

[hearty wolf]

Did Rashad even have access to it? Don't think it did :(

[buoyant maple]

His problem is that he doesn’t have big commanding pacemaker moves for his team

[buoyant maple]

Nah, wouldn’t be relevant anyway

[hearty wolf]

Yeah that's fair.

[analog agate]

Poor ogryn

[buoyant maple]

Rashad has 1 or higher ADM for everything besides carapace

[hearty wolf]

Wow

It fucks

[buoyant maple]

2 ADM vs unyielding on heavy atks

[deft stump]

But but but bullying them.

[hearty wolf]

I found between shredders and VoC that vet has some giga absurd CC. Want to see how I can put that into play on a map like Gloriana's intro where you're pressed for space

[buoyant maple]

Veteran’s crowd stagger is very temporary and doesn’t have real sustain behind it

You can’t do it like psyker or zealot

[deft stump]

You need to take advantage asap to kill or you blep.

[buoyant maple]

And the lack of pacemaking/commanding move options is pretty limiting

Doing 1M+ damage on veteran in havoc feels like you’re barely doing anything

[hearty wolf]

I wanted to branch out from being a chorus bot 😭

[fiery python]

It is very frustrating

[zinc phoenix]

What weapons does this get run with?

[fiery python]

You always feel like the weakest link in havoc especially around book zealots and bubble psykers

[zinc phoenix]

I feel very lost with vet havoc tbh

[buoyant maple]

Zealot is so so so so much more chill than veteran lol

[buoyant maple]

Plasma / laspistol / recon / Boltpistol

[nocturne dust]

We can swap

[buoyant maple]

Boltgun is playable and better than boltpistol afaik but I think it’s better if ur zealot (2nd zealot)

[deft stump]

Nu. All stress, all panic.

[nocturne dust]

You can be psyker and I can be chorus bot

[zinc phoenix]

I’ve done mid 30s with ogryn, psyker and zealot and 40 with psyker and zel but nothing with vet since I got smacked in a 28

[zinc phoenix]

How about melee? Ds/rashad/psword maybe?

[buoyant maple]

Yea cuz veteran has no pacemaking options
Psyker can dome and immediately get everyone to play accordingly
Zealot can pause the game by pressing F
Veteran actually has the play the game and fight everything at the same time

[buoyant maple]

This is for Rashad

[zinc phoenix]

Rashad is my fave vet melee

[buoyant maple]

It’s just so based

[fiery python]

Veteran is insanely reliant on his teammates to not immediately die

[zinc phoenix]

I think he’s more cover reliant

[fiery python]

It's why you won't usually see more than a single vet in a havoc lobby

[nocturne dust]

Eh, VoC is still VoC.

[zinc phoenix]

It goes a lot less far than book pulses that’s for sure

[deft stump]

Is more they need ammo and what ammo?

[nocturne dust]

Well yeah, but that's because of Book's prolonged stagger

[fiery python]

VoC is more of a get out of jail free card for the veteran, the gold toughness is just a bonus

[buoyant maple]

2 veteran + zealot + psyker is actually very strong

[zinc phoenix]

I tend to do two zel, vet psyker

[buoyant maple]

2 zealot + psyker + veteran is the safest team

[zinc phoenix]

Or swap ogryn for a zel

Ogryn is a space making king

[deft stump]

And doing that usually still means funneling all the ammo to vet.

[buoyant maple]

2 psyker + veteran + zealot is the easiest team to win/snowball into wipe

[deft stump]

Unless the vet is doing some las build.

[fiery python]

Scavenger, weapon specialist, and plasma gun is usually self sufficient enough if they only use their ammo on specialists and shooters

[zinc phoenix]

IMO vet should generally be going shocktrooper las of some kind

[buoyant maple]

If u mean self sufficient as like 13/8/5 in ammo numbers then yea

[zinc phoenix]

Plas is so thirsty it makes it hard for others to use ammo

[fiery python]

Some bullets beats no bullets

[buoyant maple]

Others don’t need to use ammo much

[hearty wolf]

In some sense, I like that it's so limited. You've got to play the game which is a wild concept

[zinc phoenix]

Flamer

[hearty wolf]

When book exists

[fiery python]

Brittleness flamer is huge

[buoyant maple]

Flamer only really comes out near the end of mixed hordes unless your team has decided that zealot gets all the ammo

[fiery python]

If you've got a boltgun guy for immediate target deletion

He need ammo

[zinc phoenix]

I tend to play bolter zel and dont burn a ton of ammo tho

It’s pretty sustainable with a survivalist even if I do some mag dumping on boss/crusher blobs and pick off some specialists/gunners/reapers

[buoyant maple]

1M+ damage on veteran feels like barely contributing
600k+ damage on zealot is a lot of dead crushers, maulers ragers
1M+ damage on psyker means they pressed 2 buttons and flamed everything

[deft stump]

I just forget I even have a flamer.

[zinc phoenix]

A lot of people struggle with remembering all their tools and default to always using the one they like best

When in a stressful situation

Even if it’s not the right tool

[deft stump]

Poke everything with toothpick while panicking.

[zinc phoenix]

I lean more and more toward “ds is bad in havoc”

[buoyant maple]

Which is why Rashad is imo best for veteran because u actually have to fight everything

[fiery python]

Literally me with the sword

I forget to throw frags so often

[zinc phoenix]

I can tell I’m rusty with a class when I forget to use tools

[hearty wolf]

I will simply have to do 2m damage

It's the only way

[strong gulch]

I need to finish leveling my smallest psyker, but I also wish I could opt into leveling and keep like a level 17 or something.

[zinc phoenix]

Like if I haven’t played psyker in a couple days it’ll take me 20m into a run to remember to smite something or that I have assail or whatever 😂

[buoyant maple]

Duelling sword is good as a budget option for chorus zealot because zealot’s tree is insanely fucked in terms of point tax

[zinc phoenix]

Relic is massively better tho

[buoyant maple]

Relic blade is literally made for havoc

I stand by that statement

[zinc phoenix]

Similar armor performance, don’t lose much mobility, awesome armor performance

I agree

[buoyant maple]

Nah relic’s mobility is a lot worse

[strong gulch]

to be fair, remembering that "I have smite" is a big ask

[deft stump]

I mostly want the inf dodge. I'm already gambling on everything with at least 260 ping.

[buoyant maple]

But relic’s scaling into density is so so so much better

[zinc phoenix]

I see people who don’t know better thinking that tryharding in havoc means DS

[buoyant maple]

Downside: relic really wants FotF for atk speed

[zinc phoenix]

So it’ll be full ds groups and then they wonder why they drown in hordes

[strong gulch]

I don't feel safe enough to bring DS,

[buoyant maple]

Actual tryharding is Rashad veteran + relic zealot absolutely mulching every elite while psyker bubbles every 6s

[strong gulch]

That's a skill issue on my part tho

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah that’s more similar to what I’ve seen succeed or psword vet

[buoyant maple]

Duelling sword does jack shit when 20 ragers rush a corridor

Relic blade can stagger up to 11 dreg ragers (break their combo) at once with its energized heavy attack

Insane scaling vs density

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah I do the heavy wides with heat on for relic and it absolutely smacks rager blobs

Plus it looks badass as hell which helps

[nocturne dust]

But that's when you pull out the bible and let psyker do their thing

[buoyant maple]

Power sword doesn’t scale as good for havoc vs combat axe imo but it’s still up there as one of the better options

[buoyant maple]

Which is why duelling sword is a good budget melee for a chorus zealot

I actually think the left side subnode for piety (give 10% crit chance to teammates) is better for zealot

Cuz chorus zealot simply is not main dps

[thorn cedar]

agreed

[deft stump]

Yes, is free crits for all.

[zinc phoenix]

If you’re trying to farm crits on zealot relic is still better IMO

Than ds

[thorn cedar]

also peity is not that hard to trigger by itself

[buoyant maple]

10% crit chance for team is huge for psyker and veteran

[zinc phoenix]

I’ve posted my 40 havoc zel, it’s all about crits and backstabs for book

[deft stump]

You go afk for 3 secs.

Is on already.

[thorn cedar]

27.5% crit chance on psyker with no active effects, yes please

[fiery python]

Gosh I wish I could get some super sweats to carry my ass through havoc instead of the brainlets that infest the party finder

[buoyant maple]

Psyker can reach like 42% crit chance on inferno just by staying 70%+ peril lol (with zealot’s piety team buff)

[deft stump]

Free crits.

Just gotta not potato.

[buoyant maple]

And veteran gets a 25% base crit chance Rashad which is a very scary thing

[hearty wolf]

Does that stack with other zealots?

[strong gulch]

Oh right. I remember a couple patch notes ago fatshark said that the fake +3 stam curios were fixed, but they are still not fixed.

Thanks to Sin for testing that.

[fiery python]

Merhaps I will master the combat axe and see if I like it more than the DSword

[buoyant maple]

Not entirely sure, but if ur second zealot and the other zealot already takes spread crit I don’t think u even need to take any subnode for piety

[nocturne dust]

some of them were

[zinc phoenix]

You will, it’s fucking awesome

[buoyant maple]

I don’t run piety subnodes on my relic blade build

[zinc phoenix]

I do, I love them crits to feed piety

[fiery python]

I didn't like it my first go around but this was like the first month or so of Darktide on xbox

[buoyant maple]

It’s simply peak veteran

[deft stump]

I literally keep saying 410+ or bust cos of the number of 400 +3 I had.

[strong gulch]

WHAT. That is even more confusing.

[nocturne dust]

just Fatshark things

[buoyant maple]

If I run relic blade for havoc I’d run smth like grievous wounds or even 2 points up top into purge the unclean

Cuz relic blade zealot is actually dps role

[fiery python]

Carapace + Flak damage still the best perks to run on an axe?

[buoyant maple]

Nah, never been

Carapace + unarmored

[fiery python]

What's the peak axe setup

[buoyant maple]

Carapace + elite has a few better breakpoints vs elites but get absolutely fucked by Moebian 21st

So for simplicity sake
Just make 2 axes

[fiery python]

If Fatshark weren't cowards they'd let me use two axes at once

[strong gulch]

"just make more" is how my inventory stays fucked up.

[buoyant maple]

I used to run carapace + elite

[strong gulch]

why look for what I need when I can craft a new one

[buoyant maple]

I’ve switched to carapace + unarmored

[deft stump]

I want dueling sword and parry knife.

[buoyant maple]

It’s more “general purpose”

[buoyant maple]

Just checked, it doesn’t stack

@zinc phoenix

[deft stump]

Is why only the support runs it.

[zinc phoenix]

sad

anyway, this is my zealot build for havoc https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9dda864a-e3a0-48d3-a3cb-7f3b4ee1145b/h40-ts-book-spam?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[buoyant maple]

Mk10 relic blade enjoyer

Based

[zinc phoenix]

hell yeah its good af

i tried the 2 and didnt love it

[nocturne dust]

I should try using relic blade

I did like the mk10 more than the 2

[buoyant maple]

Mk10 has the advantage of being able to swap combos with its PA

[deft stump]

One is annoying, the other is annoying-er.

[buoyant maple]

Big advantage imo

[nocturne dust]

but also I have too much fun playing psyker

[zinc phoenix]

The moveset is ridiculously versatile if you’re into messing with combos

All flows very nice, it’s definitely designed for the combo enjoyer

[buoyant maple]

It’s just so peak

[zinc phoenix]

Some long stabs some strikes, lotta good vs horde wide sweeps and you can flow between them all so cleanly

[plucky flax]

And suffer with 4 short dodges

[zinc phoenix]

Pfft, as if you’d need to dodge with that glorious thing in your hands 😂

[deft stump]

There there. Patpats.

[nocturne dust]

FGS:

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-suspicious-puppet-gif-2729624127692369191

[deft stump]

FGS is still more mobile for whatever reason.

[plucky flax]

It feels longer dodge than relic. I dunno if number is the same but it's more nimble

[buoyant maple]

Force greatsword doesn’t have -0.13m/s sprint bonus

[deft stump]

Or feels that way.

[zinc phoenix]

I agree but zealot compensates by being generally tougher

[patent mango]

i think psyker base dodge is longer

but idk

[buoyant maple]

Better dodge distance (-7%) compared to relic blade (-14%)

[buoyant maple]

Nah, same distance of 2.5m

[plucky flax]

Twice the dodge

[patent mango]

i c

[plucky flax]

That's op

[zinc phoenix]

Also idk about you guys but I tend to go dd for sure when fgs

[buoyant maple]

Force greatsword is 2.325m
Relic blade is 2.15m

[plucky flax]

Zealot please get better legs

[zinc phoenix]

So that certainly makes it feel more agile

[buoyant maple]

It’s more agile yes

[deft stump]

Or more faith.

[buoyant maple]

But not truly agile

[plucky flax]

More yuri contents

[deft stump]

I mean, yuri is good for faith, knowing Touhou.

[plucky flax]

I dunno I'm awake at 230. Maybe because I went to bed at 2030

This is pain

[deft stump]

Heh.

[zinc phoenix]

I think it’s probably a skill issue

Simply enhance your sleep skill with training

[plucky flax]

I think I just need a good old midnight wee

[zinc phoenix]

Also sleepmax your curios

[deft stump]

Hi. I have been up since 5-6am due to falling asleep at 11:30pm.

[zinc phoenix]

5am is when I always wake up

[deft stump]

Nu, I have EU clock normally.

For some reason.

I woke up, asked SuTv if he wanted to derp normal Damnations and penances.

And that's what we did.

[unique marlin]

so uum, eh force staffs. love them but if get carried away, not pay attention cuz getting hoarded on ... darn peril

[deft stump]

It happens.

[unique marlin]

liking the inferno flavor a bit too much

[nocturne dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1310894228339167334/Fire_Elmo_V5.gif

[unique marlin]

who needsa a heavy flamer when you got warp fire?

[dense flume]

Speaking of inferno, I have question: do you guys A) have all the barrel locations memorized and just avoid them, B) hit them all the time by accident and send teammates flying or C) Hit them all the time bc who cares, if your teammates are good they will move out of the way?

[nocturne dust]

D) See barrel, avoid barrel

[dense flume]

Cannot see with a screen full of blue/white flame!

[analog agate]

Gloriana beginning would like a word

[nocturne dust]

I mean, on Gloriana I just pop barrels early before anyone is in danger

[nocturne dust]

turn off bloom

[analog agate]

Can’t really do that with inferno

[dense flume]

Oh that's a good idea

[nocturne dust]

Knife

https://tenor.com/view/kid-knife-running-with-knives-gif-13862209

[peak kelp]

Option C

[fiery stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/twaimz-knife-slash-dance-gif-13223107

We need this knife gameplay

[livid skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-darktide-warhammer-40k-40k-warhammer-ogryn-gif-8440002666976363995

[mental grail]

E.) Pretend they don't exist, and hope I won't explode. (I will explode.)

[meager bluff]

any ballers in the chat got a good build for each of the 3 staff types ?

i want a good one for each since i have a loadout with eachone

[strong gulch]

surge / electro / EK #psyker-class message

purg/ inferno (warp charge is the main build) #psyker-class message

trauma/ voidBLAST (fire trauma) #psyker-class message

I don't have a voidstrike prepared.

[meager bluff]

and these are each viable for the staffs yes?

[strong gulch]

Look up @nocturne dust posts with images for that. The meta one is assail, shriek with creeping flames, and DD. The non-meta one is SG (scrier's gaze) with DD.

[strong gulch]

These are all meta.

[meager bluff]

ok perfect

thank you very much!

[strong gulch]

So yes. Auric meal ready.

High havoc is different.

[meager bluff]

ever since the change i havent touched psyker much so my stats got reset, had to make sure i made something worth

[wind spruce]

There's four staffs?

[strong gulch]

Typical voidstrike build #psyker-class message

Non-meta SG option #psyker-class message

On perks for voidstrike #psyker-class message

[meager bluff]

ty ty, i forgot about the voidstrike ima be honest, the first 3 that u gave me were ones i normally used

[plucky flax]

Because voidstrike is weakest

So you're safe

[meager bluff]

prob why i forgot haha

[strong gulch]

Even when it was stronger, I still didn't think about it because I don't like that staff.

[potent echo]

It's good if you can hit breakpoints

In havoc lol, lmao

[meager bluff]

i like the inferno and electro the most tbh

alrighty now i just gotta get these staff masteries up, should be an enjoyable time (i hope)

[meager bluff]

oh i forgot to ask, what should i be putting on the curious for these? toughness and health or should i be lookin for something else?

[kindred shuttle]

Is brainburst considered ranged damage for talent purposes? "ranged talent boost"

[meager bluff]

i mean its done at range and can proc off of damage if u have the right talent, could be but idk

[buoyant maple]

Yes

[kindred shuttle]

Danke

[buoyant maple]

It’s also nerfed by pus hardened skin modifier in havoc

[strong gulch]

The general rec is 200 hp and 1 sniper resist. That let's you eat a sniper a a couple bursters. After that do as you please.

[strong gulch]

Yes it counts.

[plucky flax]

This backpiece is kinda sick I might get it.

[strong gulch]

do it

3rd curio noice

[kindred shuttle]

100%. Had to grab it.

[plucky flax]

It's also animated.

Veri cool

[strong gulch]

and i got warp rider now

3 bigs and 3 big levels and then me

[plucky flax]

Why do you level another psyker?

[strong gulch]

Something to do. Also green theme.

2 of the big bois left and then we got others who where confused

I really let myself get slapped around and shot because I thought I was gonna get carried.

[stiff schooner]

melee psyker w/ assail and force greatsword just kinda trivializes auric damnation apparently

[wind spruce]

Multiple vegetables is up and I am excited bc havoc isn't fun let's be honest

[stiff schooner]

i like havoc but I don’t like being gatekept from 30+ because hosts see my max rank at 29 and think I SUCK!

[wind spruce]

I don't enjoy being pin cushioned by singular shooters

[stiff schooner]

always be spamming slide tbh

[strong gulch]

Granted these are people I either know or a freind of someone I know, but every low havoc level player I've had in havoc 40 has done well. We communitcated with them and they did fine.

When you forget about grates and trauma/ voidblast. 😭

[stiff schooner]

I just did a regular auric damn mission and we had a +1200 lvl psyker who died and immediately left 😭

you’ve been playing soo long why do that after so many hours

and it wasn’t even like we were about to wipe either

[wind spruce]

Look, it happens

Sometimes it's because I loaded in with something wrong with my build

[inland ice]

fatshark seal of approval

[wind spruce]

Or I just need to nope out because this death was a sign

[inland ice]

so real

sometimes i realize i am so not in for the rest of the 30+ minute game

[strong gulch]

Sounds like me lmap

lmao*

[inland ice]

sometimes the dogs are barking

[strong gulch]

Yeah. Sometimes I can't recognize how tired my brain is.

[inland ice]

me either

[strong gulch]

Sometimes I really just suck and need to leave.

[inland ice]

sometimes it takes a couple crusher overheads

this game really does require a certain level of focus imo

sometimes i be on a youtube video essay watching wavelength instead of a darktide wavelength

[strong gulch]

REAL

[plucky flax]

We can play 40 and get you the shiny badge.

[stiff schooner]

I love shiny badges

I got auric storm survivor just earlier yesterday

[deft stump]

Get it, still prefer having no title, ends up going no title anyway.

[plucky flax]

Just need someone to open 40 for us (I am only havoc 20)

[deft stump]

Wait, what happened?

[plucky flax]

What you mean what happened? I am noob looking for 40 people to carry me

(I need assists)

[deft stump]

Oh, so PF assists lul.

[wind spruce]

when the zealot who took 335 ammo and did 131k ranged damage is better than u at playing as a team 😭

[strong gulch]

I got a 40

[plucky flax]

Pog

Can do later for them.

[strong gulch]

kk

[plucky flax]

More sus zealot relic play from me

[strong gulch]

kk

Do as you please. I'll do the meta psyker stuff. Bubble purg or trauma

[deft stump]

Extra sus.

[fickle nacelle]

question what is "Trauma"

[strong gulch]

Old name for voidblast.

[fickle nacelle]

ah

[deft stump]

Is because that staff grants Trauma to both allies and enemies.

[strong gulch]

true

#psyker-class message

[fickle nacelle]

what makes Voidblast meta?

[upper sun]

its a staff

big damage no ammo usage

[strong gulch]

All of the staves are good in non-havoc.

Voidstrike and surge/ EK struggle because of the modifiers.

[summer prairie]

EK is amazing if it's not pus-skinned, but still decent if it is

[strong gulch]

In general tho, trauma/ voidblast has a lot of CC and can do a lot of damage. It shines especially well in mixed hordes.

Also surge/ EK benefits the most with shriek vs bubble.

I don't think we should only be allowed to play bubble tho.

I need it in havoc because of skill issue.

[upper sun]

fading light is a shit condition

if the playtesters couldnt carry the devs how can i carry the pubs

its legit too much

[strong gulch]

I am now thinking of looking in a toilet after a poo and thinking, "Uh oh, I got the fading light."

[upper sun]

seriously as it stands it just forces players to bubble hop or spam chorus

i was hoping for more enemy spesific modifiers in havoc

like trappers getting less reload time or bombers being able to throw grenades while moving

[deft stump]

Or smaller but multiple grenades.

[upper sun]

yeah that too

or idk randomized enemy armor

like some enemies would have a carapace leg/torso/soulder/head in random

imagine having to adjust your aim on the go

[strong gulch]

I'd like that modifier from VT2 where you'd kill and enemy and it'd split into 2 smaller enemies. Like kill a crusher and get 2 maulers.

[upper sun]

one mauler has a carapace head and one has carapace body but a flak head and you have to fight both at once

[upper sun]

also that

[strong gulch]

dregs finally get shoes

[meager bluff]

alright perfect thanks

[upper sun]

carapace footed flamers 😨

[strong gulch]

Small bursters that don't do as much damage but there's more of them

[deft stump]

Reduced knockback as well.

[upper sun]

tox bursteres with 3x run speed

[meager bluff]

[upper sun]

they dont do damage they just make toxgas

[deft stump]

So fartbursters.

[upper sun]

yes

[meager bluff]

fartbursters is wild

[strong gulch]

Those twins mines but they chase you

[deft stump]

Naw, Twins mines is just big corruption damage.

[upper sun]

or or or

kickback crushers

[deft stump]

Do you really want buffed shotgunners?

[upper sun]

yes

[fickle nacelle]

modifer that turns the Psyker into a Chaos Spawn when they peril for some lore accurate suffering

[upper sun]

imagine a crusher running at you with a shovel

pick enabled

[deft stump]

I will be running away asap, as usual.

[upper sun]

4k damage overhead

[deft stump]

Ppl hate psykers more then.

[fickle nacelle]

but it would be funny

[deft stump]

Unless you make it something that affects every class.

[fickle nacelle]

it does effect every class, now they all have to deal with a chaos spawn where their Psyker once was

[upper sun]

then the vet has to have a QTE with the chaos spawn to turn them back using the power of friendship

[fickle nacelle]

it would be the Ogryn

[deft stump]

Bonus if you female Loose Cannon. Or Oggy.

[upper sun]

https://tenor.com/view/frieren-absolute-cinema-cinema-absolute-cine-beyond-journeys-end-gif-5191354576438169827

[fickle nacelle]

if anyone still believes in the power of friendship its the Ogryns and theyre so based for that

[deft stump]

But the players range from the best to the worst.

[strong gulch]

red name let's go

[upper sun]

ogryns are prolly treated as badly as psykers on the ship so i imagine they end up pretty friendly

[fickle nacelle]

Ogryns are too stupid to understand why people hate the Psyker

but smart enough to know its undeserved

[deft stump]

I mean, they get some hate as well. You know how humans are like.

Anyone different than them gets dooked on.

[languid cargo]

Pysker ogryns exist apparently

[upper sun]

theres literally one

and its a female ogryn models for them do not even exist

they have like 3 mentions in the lore total

[languid cargo]

Amazing

[fickle nacelle]

wait am i stupid have Pskyers always had the option for black sclera

[deft stump]

It's any if you have Vermintide.

[fickle nacelle]

ahhhh

[deft stump]

I know, cos I have it on my Vet, lul.

[fickle nacelle]

i just thought it would be psyker because ya know, mutant

[deft stump]

Is just a VT crossover thing.

[fickle nacelle]

ah man now i wish there was an option for glowy pink eyes so i can be Gambit from X-Men

[solar schooner]

It's starting to annoy the piss out of me that I can't play psyker ._.

To be more accurate, the greatsword

I want to get good with the damn thing so bad but fuck

[deft stump]

Is more cursed though. Keri gets booted out of elven society cos of said eyes cos she is cursed or summthing. Is a reason why she's with this outcast group.

[fickle nacelle]

being a Psyker is pretty much a curse

[deft stump]

A curse with benefits on certain worlds.

Being a psyker king is a thing.

[solar schooner]

I'm about to delete my psyker

Lmao

I don't know what I'm missing but this class doesn't feel worth it

[lavish glade]

destroy all psykers

[deft stump]

Go back to Zealot mains.

[weary crane]

[solar schooner]

Tf do you do

[summer prairie]

play surge, hold rmb and press lmb occasionally, press f when ability ready

[weary crane]

Bit more complicated than that

Plus I get that with my inferno too

[summer prairie]

yeah that's way more complicated, you have to wiggle the cursor a bit

[solar schooner]

Actually I should say stupid question

I'm just gonna play psyker with the duelling sword

[weary crane]

Do the same then

[solar schooner]

That shit solves all my problems

[summer prairie]

I only play psyker, just saying doing damage with surge and purg isn't exactly difficult

[weary crane]

Well yeah that was my point

Psyker is the best class for havoc

[summer prairie]

Finally messing around with Power DI a bit more, you can get it to show pretty interesting details

[fickle nacelle]

so i just discovered the combination of Disrupt Destiny and the Combat knife

[summer prairie]

p4_demolition is the voidstrike explosion maybe?

Grenade damage

[deft stump]

So Strike is just grenade staff.

[summer prairie]

no that was just real grenade damage, just neat to be able to see how much you do with them

[deft stump]

Oh.

[solar schooner]

Anybody wanna run my havoc 40 with me? I'm trying to get some actual practice in to get better with this class ._.

[summer prairie]

If we can get a full team

[wispy bay]

I might be able to do 1 or 2 games. As Ogryn this time around.

[solar schooner]

Well I got a 4th from the lfg

If y'all are down to run it

[summer prairie]

9207756629

[plucky flax]

Yes

Kick the 4th get me instead I'm veri prp

(Lie)

[deft stump]

prp. Sus.

[solar schooner]

LOL

[deft stump]

(You mean pro?)

[marble crater]

Pro at stealing warpfire

[potent echo]

Prettp

[deft stump]

Watch Syllo carry.

[summer prairie]

coming or not?

[plucky flax]

Wait why did I type prp

[wispy bay]

Braincell malfunction

After zapping too much with EK.

[plucky flax]

Is there space?

[deft stump]

You mean, unga bunga relic.

[summer prairie]

we are waiting at 3/4, not sure if this one guy is from the player finder

[radiant frigate]

total braincell zap

[plucky flax]

Okay inv the goat zealot

[strong gulch]

Y'all make that havoc 40 cry.

[marble crater]

We need more people who can host 40s, so we can pick the most insane to play each week

[strong gulch]

true

[strong gulch]

Or cope with memes.

Mael gloriana with my soulblaze illisi.

[marble crater]

[deft stump]

GL with that. I mean, I'm the hard mode modifier.

[strong gulch]

I did like 56k SB damage as the only psyker.

[marble crater]

Well since it's bugged it will be a while before more people can host 40 I guess

[deft stump]

Extra stress 3 man.

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/paul-rudd-thats-really-impressive-thats-good-thats-amazing-wow-gif-17011198

[hearty wolf]

I'm so fucking tired

I've already worked 2h but I slept like 2m I swear

This Darktide routine is tireless but I must grind

We got like 500k dockets in like 2 hours

[strong gulch]

Do you need more money??

[marble crater]

In this economy? Yea

[strong gulch]

true true

[deft stump]

I mean, unless youa re about to break cap, don't you want more ALWAYS?

[hearty wolf]

I have mastery's to get

[fickle nacelle]

Combat Blade with Warp Speed and Disrupt Destiny is really fun

[hearty wolf]

And like

I still need my last vet curio :(

[deft stump]

Knoife is always fun, but your finger suffers for it.

[fickle nacelle]

it does

[radiant frigate]

knife is neither force nor greatsword

[fickle nacelle]

but anyway it has this really fun like ping pong playstyle where you just find some poor goober that gets highlighted sprint over to them, stab them in the head than do it for the next marked target

[radiant frigate]

bad weapon clearly

[deft stump]

When Force knoife.

I wanna rapidly stab things but have force deflection yes.

[fickle nacelle]

it probably isnt a good build in high difficulty but being the fastest Psyker alive is really fun

[deft stump]

What can go wrong when you can fling yourself off maps if you can't deal with dook anymore?

[radiant frigate]

de imos

[deft stump]

Is not mk6.

Also slower.

[fickle nacelle]

What ranged weapon should the zoomies psyker use tho

[hearty wolf]

The 🧹

Just fly everywhere

[unique marlin]

Paint it red to go faster

[fickle nacelle]

You're a genius

[marble crater]

More like is an ork

[deft stump]

I mean, buy the red knife in the shop.

[strong gulch]

no more fake +3s

[hearty wolf]

Ideally it's +21% hp

But I can cope with 17% toughness

[marble crater]

Gamble with milk bucks

[deft stump]

Need more of it.

[marble crater]

Get more of it, create a character, finish the quests, delete the character, create a new one for new quests, etc.

[strong gulch]

oh right 😠

I mean it's a good thing but let me meme

[plucky flax]

Still can do it with a party no?

[strong gulch]

I think so.

[wispy bay]

Playing Ogryn is kind of sad, all I did was taking agro, almost 0 damage.

[plucky flax]

Why don't you shield bash more?

Bleed stacking should be gud for horde still.

[strong gulch]

Havoc went well?

[wispy bay]

I do all the time

[plucky flax]

Maybe play pickaxe.

[wispy bay]

Almost never use light attack

Nah, it is fine. It is the role of Ogryn anyway.

[solar schooner]

So anyway, bub + voidblast man consistently hit over 1m dmg on it, so he didn't use shriek

[marble crater]

Clad was able join auric with his lvl 1 baby zealot, so should be fine

[formal harness]

ogryn press m1. ogryn kill heretic. ogryn happy.

[strong gulch]

Need frens 😭

lmao

[wispy bay]

Funny is that somehow I didn't get hit my any of the Crusher considering the hurt box is huge.

[marble crater]

Ah, rip

[plucky flax]

I feel called out.

It was lag

[wispy bay]

Im not aiming at you.

[plucky flax]

I need to find a way to put holy rev in my build.

It's too hard without when you can get 1 shot and skip down state.

[solar schooner]

I'm assuming stack full health curios too?

[wispy bay]

Anyhow, Ogryn is simple to play. If I see too many overhead, I can taunt or push them. Ogryn can push crushers away.

[solar schooner]

Just as a quick thing on that

I keep seeing ppl say stack health curios when building for h40

[plucky flax]

I run 2 toughness 1 hp for havoc.

It's still subjective and player dependant.

I dunno maybe play around.

I don't want to play with 60 toughness that's too sus

[solar schooner]

Toughness/CDR/Stam Regen?

[wispy bay]

I go with 2 toughness 1 health, or sometimes 1 stamina in place of a toughness for some build.

[plucky flax]

I run hp toughness cdr

[deft stump]

Is lag. Getting hit and not getting hit is a gamble. But when you win... heh.

[wispy bay]

I believe that some people run 3 hp because they want to get to 100% toughness quickly to tank damage.

The issue with that, most of the toughness regen nodes are %.

[deft stump]

Problem is everything is % anyway?

[wispy bay]

So I really don't understand them.

[deft stump]

Only real flats are VoC and Holy symbol.

[marble crater]

It's me, I run 3 HP because I am either at 0 toughness or 100% toughness and 90% I am sitting inside a bubble as well. So HP protects me more when fucking up

[deft stump]

50 to team and up to 120 for team?

[wispy bay]

They are only flat if your toughness is over 100%.

[deft stump]

Team.

I think holy symbol/book is flat anyway.

[wispy bay]

Chorus is 45% per pulse if your toughness is bellow 100%.

[deft stump]

Ah.

[plucky flax]

Choir boi

[deft stump]

So only real flat is VoC on ally?

[wispy bay]

Then +20 per pulse after.

[wispy bay]

I think so.

[deft stump]

Ah.

[wispy bay]

I think the VoC upgrade just does a 100% toughness then the +50 on top though.

[deft stump]

IDK man, I push button to not die, you know. Panic.

[deft stump]

Can't be on teammates. I have used it on some who are empty and it refills only half or less.

[wispy bay]

Ogryn panic button makes enemy stun for like 2 seconds then they will all attack you.

[plucky flax]

Only for the vet. It always full refill the shouter

[wispy bay]

So the allies get like 50%? I don't recall very well on that.

[deft stump]

50 flat.

[plucky flax]

I dunno the exact number but allies don't get full toughness + yellow

[wispy bay]

Oh, so it is the only really the only flat toughness then.

[marble crater]

Vet gets full and +50
Allies just get +50

[deft stump]

Oh and pre upgraded chastise.

75 flat, I think.

Is why the upgrade is a mixed bag if you don't build toughness.

Or get 2x dash.

I wish it were 75 or 50%, whichever is higher.

[wispy bay]

I should try Thammer stealth zealot sometimes. I hear they deal big damage vs bosses.

[upper sun]

idk about that

i think the default is also a flat amount

it just fills up the toughness because when you have the unupgraded one you have less toughness

[deft stump]

75/100 vs 50% of 100.

Assuming no bonus toughness.

[marble crater]

They do, I like Thammer with chastise, because I am not good enough to get close enough with stealth

[upper sun]

chastise is better for thammer

you get more utility you can kill two things instead of one

[deft stump]

Or bonk boss twice?

[upper sun]

ye

though you wont need to do it if ur not a bad thammer user like me 😭

[marble crater]

If your team is too good you don't even get a chance to use stealth one shot

[upper sun]

its been too long since i played thammer i kept fucking it up last game

[marble crater]

So today we both play Thammer

[weary crane]

Does this work properly

Doesn't seem to make much of a difference

[summer prairie]

not for purg

[marble crater]

Maelstrom with monster specials

[plucky flax]

2 noobs with big hammers

[upper sun]

lets make it 3

[strong gulch]

I have used the iron one once.

[marble crater]

[upper sun]

ironhelm is the best and easiest to use imo

[vocal spruce]

Emperor Palpatine build fun and helps team

[deft stump]

[plucky flax]

Mein Beileid zu Ihrem Verlust.

[marble crater]

It helps the team, but I don't know about fun

[vocal spruce]

Unlimited power

[strong gulch]

I was all "I'm just gonna stay up. I'm not sleepy." Now it's 7 am and I am finally feeling like bed it a good idea.

[marble crater]

Close enough

[plucky flax]

[deft stump]

What loss?

[plucky flax]

I used to play gw2 and my guild was 70% German

[plucky flax]

Your skill level

[deft stump]

Never had any.

[hearty wolf]

😭

[deft stump]

I did say I just panic.

[marble crater]

It's funny, you are chilling and a little bit bored and then someone panics a few meters away

[deft stump]

Look, I'm panicking or I'm PANICKING.

[strong gulch]

I was panicking here.
https://youtu.be/yZkHwLv1OLI

[deft stump]

That was just me the entire 40 run, walk into side room, see 3 ogryn, backs out.

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/back-up-gif-8713338

[deft stump]

Or ehm, whatever the dook happened during the BoN fight in thight corridors with the captain.

[strong gulch]

gloriana death hallway

[deft stump]

Naw, it was the destroy tainted green stuff one.

[marble crater]

Yeah that narrows it down

[strong gulch]

I've played over 1000 hrs of this game and I have no idea what map that is.

I never know

[deft stump]

The one you gotta stab the big green glass thing.

[strong gulch]

3/4 way through a map and I'm like "oh this one"

[deft stump]

That isn't dark communion.

[strong gulch]

oh ok got it

the 2nd carnival

[marble crater]

Warren

[strong gulch]

Doesn't ring any bells.

Hab dreyko and the first carnival has bells you can ring with trauma

[upper sun]

i fucking hated the twins bell puzzle shit so much

everytime i tried to do it i ended up dying to either find the bell or died while trying to read my notes

[strong gulch]

I hope they never make something like that again.

[upper sun]

eventually someone did it for me while i was doing twins for weeklies

[deft stump]

Uprising just to unlock it.

[upper sun]

pretty sure you had to do it on damnation to unlock

[strong gulch]

I enjoy puzzles and that shot sucked.

[unique marlin]

No you can unlock on uprising

[deft stump]

Nawp. Any.

[strong gulch]

Did we??

[upper sun]

huh yeah that woulda been easier

[upper sun]

idk i got it in pubs

[deft stump]

I did it on uprising so can alttab to guide.

[unique marlin]

Did that yesterday w a group

[strong gulch]

I thought I unlocked on an easier difficulty. I don't remember tbh

[deft stump]

Once unlocked, doesn't matter diff, bell is there.

[unique marlin]

Does it unlock for all party members? We had just one ring the bells

[deft stump]

Yes. The penance anyway.

Just let one guy do it so no confusion.

[unique marlin]

Yea and rest are bodyguards for strays

[slate crane]

How does the Malleus Monstorum penance interact with the new party finder?

[marble crater]

Doesn't really, the party finder is just for finding players. You still need to manually select a private game and start that for it to count

[upper sun]

accept my invite

ur fatshark code is wrong

😭

[slate crane]

lol, how do I find the right one then?

[upper sun]

escape social then find player

your fatshark code is under your name

[deft stump]

Look at bottom right for find player.

[upper sun]

or just use mine and invite me

do you have a good build for MM?

I recommend this for the MM penance

[slate crane]

Yep, going in

Thanks!

[upper sun]

lmao we got swedish yappers

reinvite me

[slate crane]

I have literally never used the social functions before lol, thanks again.

[unique marlin]

Fairly new to the game, but I was told by a exp player that inferno staff can stun elites with rmb. Not sure how that works

Just seems to charge the staff and wait for my lmb click

[deft stump]

They might mean to spam lmb.

[upper sun]

it supresses with the charge effect and staggers with the rmb spam

[unique marlin]

Think thats the disconnect, rmb spam. At least for me it just charges and builds up peril, nothin happens til lmb is pressed

[upper sun]

nah it does do some damage on the stagger and applies some soulblaze but you need blaze away to get it going

[unique marlin]

Aah so based on a skill

[upper sun]

no

[plucky flax]

Same I am anti social

[upper sun]

just mindlessly spam it

[deft stump]

[upper sun]

can we remove this dumbass shit boss from the game

i wasnt even on the goop and the slow took effect

[plucky flax]

Stop sussing me

[upper sun]

i shouldnt have been hit by the puke and it still hit me

[slate crane]

And here I thought getting eaten was a clever ploy to help me finish my penance.

[unique marlin]

Embrace the pure fragrance of Nurgel

[deft stump]

Your own fault for being sus.

[upper sun]

nah

i was slowed for no reason

[strong gulch]

LMB/ primary is stagger and RMB / secondary (charged) is for continuously spraying soulblaze. RMB with blaze away can stagger even maulers, but it takes a fair bit of time and shouldn't be depended on for stagger. RMB is mostly for suppression in terms of CC.

LMB staggers maulers and smaller with just a puff, but you have to aim it what you want to stagger. If there's 4 mauler, puff at each individual mauler with LMB to stagger them.

[unique marlin]

Thanks, I have noticed that chaged is nuts for fodder clear ... just reminds self not to get carried away with peril monitoring

[strong gulch]

Yeah. RMB is damage and LMB is CC more or less.

[celest valve]

as long as you're not at 100% when you start firing you should be fine

[weary crane]

After playing a lot of games with empyric resolve, and going one without it, i realise it's a must-take, even with purga, you have you constantly quell and charge and it too much time

[haughty star]

I like bonbon

[marble crater]

We love ER

[haughty star]

The bonbon deletes are hilarious on gunker

Personally I only like er on ek

[indigo plank]

Does anyone know what the crit chance/damage numbers are on base Surge vs the other staves?

[haughty star]

And ep smite

[deft stump]

Is nice on strike as well though. But it means what toughness lul.

[haughty star]

Its alot of point investment for strike

Is my only qualm with it

[deft stump]

Depends on if you run with WS or DD, lul.

[haughty star]

Yeah. Strike really strongly enjoys dd. I miss the punch from it when I've tried ws

[deft stump]

They can both work, WS is the safer of the two since lag factors alot for DD.

Half my attacks don't actually hit for one, so get KSed very often.

Is very obvious on WS Vet, charge into horde to stab walkers, come out with 0 charges.

[haughty star]

Eh. Not a fan of assail with warp siphon and I won't run strike without assail

[deft stump]

I run it with headpop for psykinetic.

It is really fun if you do manage to hit decimate a group of stuff.

[weary crane]

I'm trying to work out if this does more dmg/better horde clear than rmb, bearing in mind i dont have flurry

[summer prairie]

yikes,a painful 10 minute clutch having to slowly kill gunners/reapers behind cover with BB and constant special spawn and hordes whenever I made some forward progress

pus-hardened of course

[upper sun]

stop liking things i dont like 😠

[deft stump]

Just hate everything, is ezy.

[upper sun]

HATE IS A VIRTUE

actually that reminds me to fill out my pre game shitpost channel

[zinc phoenix]

Yes

[deft stump]

Wait wat.

[zinc phoenix]

Altho you do actually have an alternative because you can use crack and tranq on a horde to zero your peril very fast

[upper sun]

sec

[zinc phoenix]

If you do tranq/wrath on a mk8 fgs with flurry rending trauma you have very good staff uptime with stuff around you

It’s a lil tricky to run tho because you’re constantly swapping between the two rather than, uh, holding right click 😂

[weary crane]

LMB spam for purga

• staggers more
• doesn't require charge up
• allows you to move more

Downsides:

• less damage?
• less burn stacks?
• less suppression?
• less cloud radius?

[upper sun]

@strong gulch hi are u on

[zinc phoenix]

LMB is for stagger

RMB is for mass murder

[upper sun]

i need to test the chat char limit

can i just join you in a strike team for a bit