But hey, I already say I'm dook at this game but you all seem to think auric mael is a totally good place for me to be in.
#psyker-class
deft stump
zinc phoenix
Auric mael is not particularly hard
That’s why it got used as a small level skip for havoc
analog agate
Still find histg harder than most maels. Only the maels with 5 modifiers are tough
radiant frigate
But hey, I already say I'm dook at this game but you all seem to think auric mae...
yeah, wanna go there again tomorrow?
we'll make it a weekly thing
Torture Karien Tuesdays
radiant frigate
monstrous specialists?
zinc phoenix
imo the best way to get good at the game is to go for the penance that requires you to take zero health damage in a mission… with pugs
upper sun
i tried to loop the BoN when another one spwaned
deft stump
yeah, wanna go there again tomorrow?
we'll make it a weekly thing
Torture Karie...
I see you are friends with Vet mains.
zinc phoenix
Auric mael has nothing on the sheer agony of staying untouched for 40m with people who get 1v1’d by pox walkers
deft stump
Ever since Havoc broke, 2 of them asked me if I wanted to go auric damnation or auric mael.
radiant frigate
I see you are friends with Vet mains.
just one i think
deft stump
just one i think
deft stump
Damnation too easy
You guys make me want to make use of a martyrdom build again.
zinc phoenix
It’s better to learn to not be hit than crutch on ways to make yourself unkillable
deft stump
It’s better to learn to not be hit than crutch on ways to make yourself unkillab...
You play with 300 ping and come back to me on that.
zinc phoenix
You play with 300 ping and come back to me on that.
Meh pay for Starlink
deft stump
Meh pay for Starlink
Starlink?
hearty wolf
You guys make me want to make use of a martyrdom build again.
What's wrong with that
deft stump
What's wrong with that
Stigma.
hearty wolf
Stigma balls?
I dunno, you opened yourself up for that I'm afraid
Gotta work on that positioning 😭
haughty star
Still find histg harder than most maels. Only the maels with 5 modifiers are tou...
I legit find the condition less regular ass damnations pretty challenging lol. Some of em the ai director just loses its shit on lol. Saw a casual ass pack of 15 crushers in one yesterday lol
deft stump
Stigma balls?
.-. Is just when you see 6 wounds, you usually expect them to well... you know.
deft stump
I legit find the condition less regular ass damnations pretty challenging lol. S...
Crushers and maulers mixed. So many, just so many.
hearty wolf
.-. Is just when you see 6 wounds, you usually expect them to well... you know.
@bold cape you just got called out so hard
deft stump
<@868290881726328884> you just got called out so hard
Well, it's the general view. I had people just leave when they saw such. Even when I'm either close, or left behind to deal with everything.
spice oar
hearty wolf
Well, it's the general view. I had people just leave when they saw such. Even wh...
People are just bad in general so. It's no worries
zinc phoenix
Well, it's the general view. I had people just leave when they saw such. Even wh...
Leavers are part of why auric is so bad
deft stump
People are just bad in general so. It's no worries
And you know I'm bad.
zinc phoenix
Like it’s routine for me to go thru multiple teams in the first ten minutes of an auric
deft stump
Leavers are part of why auric is so bad
I mean, assuming it gets that far.
zinc phoenix
It’s a big part of why I am 100% havoc these days and only doing aurics again because it is broken
But it’s so boring and suck I’m gonna skull hunt instead
deft stump
Ppl leave in havoc even.
zinc phoenix
Much rarer
deft stump
I had a vet drop, a zealot drop.
zinc phoenix
And the poo players get filtered out
deft stump
One cos too many zealots.
Other was just. "I'm sorry I'm not doing much." then leaves.
To be fair, when a revolver zealot is sniping more specials and elites than you...
patent mango
Other was just. "I'm sorry I'm not doing much." then leaves.
not doing much
decides to do less
zinc phoenix
I mean I’ve had maybe 3 or 4 havocs where I’ve had someone leave and it wasn’t a crash
In aurics I have twice that many leave in the first ten minutes as a routine event
deft stump
Funny thing is, the zealot one was an easy win, did not get credit since that person was the host.
zinc phoenix
The frequency is massively different
deft stump
It's like, havoc 4.
4 zealots with chorus would just cheese the entire thing.
Minigame?
Holy symbol.
zinc phoenix
Ok I don’t really play a lot of single digit havoc 🤷♀️
deft stump
Holdout? chain holy symbols.
zinc phoenix
I’m pretty sure if you’re moderately competent you can do it with just bots
upper sun
I’m pretty sure if you’re moderately competent you can do it with just bots
do what?
deft stump
Is more, we (3 man) PF'd for 18.
upper sun
yeah
zinc phoenix
Ok well you can just decline
deft stump
They left in the lobby.
upper sun
isnt havoc 10 and below just malice?
deft stump
COs 4 zealots.
deft stump
We just strolled through it with 3 zealots.
zinc phoenix
Which is necessary because there are a lot of idiots
zinc phoenix
I think you’ve told this same story two dozen times
It’s like talking to a tape recorder at this point
deft stump
I think I did mention it yesterday.
But yeah, it's a problem.I do repeat things without knowing till I think about it or someone mentions.
Usually why I normally just stick to a small group, it's less aggravating to people who understand it.
dense flume
Do people on PC mostly run inferno vfx off? Had someone whining about it being hard to see, which... i can understand lol
hearty wolf
Do people on PC mostly run inferno vfx off? Had someone whining about it being h...
Just open eyes more
dense flume
I'll say that next time definitely
haughty star
Don't have to see when you're killing everything for them
Plus if they can't get out of a inferno psykers radius idk that's just a skill issue lol
upbeat kestrel
infernal staff perks would be what?
marble crater
isnt havoc 10 and below just malice?
You are malice
upper sun
You are malice
ur sedition
marble crater
dense flume
infernal staff perks would be what?
Flak and crit I think?
upper sun
ye flak is mandatory and your second perk can be crit chance/elite/unyielding/maniac
marble crater
Unyielding for bosses and bullshitwarks
stiff schooner
ehh
upbeat kestrel
aye thanks
stiff schooner
I’d do crit chance tbh but ig that’s dependent on your talents as well
stiff schooner
Do people on PC mostly run inferno vfx off? Had someone whining about it being h...
People say this but I can’t imagine a scenario where you’d need to see what you’re shooting at with inferno staff
If you’re shooting at it you’re already close enough to see it’s there and being lit up
dense flume
Oh no I meant the other players
stiff schooner
oh idk I’d just ping something and get the outline through the fire if it was that important
dense flume
But for context, it was the mission with the uh, tree at the end where you hold and wait for the purge
stiff schooner
zealot flamer is probably harder to see through tbh
upbeat kestrel
and full perks+ blessings for electric staff
dense flume
And I was just "weeeeeee fire for everyone"
deft stump
zealot flamer is probably harder to see through tbh
Just throw in a scab flamer, it's totally ezy. Bonus fire grenade from bomber.
stiff schooner
my favorite darktide moments are when my teammates coincidentally blow up a fire barrel in a choke point and leave me on the other side of it
deft stump
my favorite darktide moments are when my teammates coincidentally blow up a fire...
That's just normal.
haughty star
But for context, it was the mission with the uh, tree at the end where you hold ...
I love that one but people are so ass in that lol
9/10 i end up on obj while tje ogryn or twbs zealot on my team runs around like a chicken with a cut off head
analog agate
The beginning and end event of that map can be brutal
haughty star
Like chastium gloriana or whatever it is
Once you get past 2nd phase you pretty much got er licked
analog agate
Yep
Most of my fails in this game are probably the drop down from the bridge in Hab and now, closing in, is the battery event in Gloriana.
Hardest map is still Logistratum though
dense flume
I'm complete ass at that snow one. I really need to learn these names
zinc phoenix
9/10 i end up on obj while tje ogryn or twbs zealot on my team runs around like ...
“I am a professional tree molester”
You irl
dense flume
Too many wide open areas and I haven't gotten good yet
clear heath
Do people on PC mostly run inferno vfx off? Had someone whining about it being h...
I decided to start using the mod to hide them because i got into a team with 3 flamethrowers
i couldn't see shit
haughty star
which mark of FSG do y'all like?
8 if you prefer more of a illisi experience, 6 for deimosesque
shrewd comet
8 if you prefer more of a illisi experience, 6 for deimosesque
but which one do YOU like using more?
dense flume
Sounds like "sometimes", then. Some people use it but by no means is it the default
haughty star
8 is better light spam horde clear and the overhands deliver much faster than the 6, 6 is better single target heavies. I prefer the 8 cuz I usually push attack crushers anyway
cold ivy
my favorite darktide moments are when my teammates coincidentally blow up a fire...
if you bunny hop across fire (specifically fire from barrels) you don't take damage, iirc (or you take very very little if you mess it up)
but don't try it with fire from enemy flamers because those will still hurt you
stiff schooner
Ik but sometimes you’re busy fighting stuff
cold ivy
yeah if your team has detonated a barrel and also leaves you to fight stuff on the other side while whatever you're fighting is easily within shooting distance, you have bigger problems than just the barrel
dense flume
I also like mk8 fgs for the same reason lol. When I need a poke I'm usually gonna force push
Or maybe ive got it backwards and I've been conditioned by it to force push on things that I want to poke... 🤔
deft stump
which mark of FSG do y'all like?
Taste. I prefer the Illisi, but the Mark 6 of the FGS.
cold trellis
What are the standard perks to run on ds4 for psyker?
upper sun
carapace and unyielding/maniac
cold trellis
Thx 👍🏻
cold ivy
you mostly use it for stabbing 1) crushers 2) mutants 3) bosses because generally staves don't do too well against those, so two out of those three are probably the way to go! (some staves are pretty good against crusher mutant though)
dense flume
Like chastium gloriana or whatever it is
Wait is that the snowy one with the ice breaking to release the gears and all that?
deft stump
By that, it's the VoidStrike. Funny BOOM BOOM staff on crusher heds is funni.
deft stump
Wait is that the snowy one with the ice breaking to release the gears and all th...
Yes, the map where you can die right after the first drop down because barrel and bloody boomers.
haughty star
By that, it's the VoidStrike. Funny BOOM BOOM staff on crusher heds is funni.
Ek is pretty baller for crushers too
nocturne dust
No?
cold ivy
pen flames takes really long to kill crushers still... but maybe with uncanny stacked on the melee weapon it'll be faster
nocturne dust
Yeah
Pen Flame alone isn't great for crusher murder, you'd want additional brittleness because Pen Flame stacks
sand furnace
What's the skinny on Psyker. Hard to learn/play?
cold ivy
can be a bit fragile but is really great at dealing with extreme enemy density (psykinetic's aura and perilous combustion both scale with the number of elites/specialists you fight, and some of the staves have infinite cleave and are thus limited only by the number of targets that can fit in their range)
sand furnace
Interesting. That should keep me entertained for the next week
haughty star
Creeping flames etc
thorn cedar
Psyker has kept me entertained for almost four months now
cold ivy
oh yeah creeping flames is another "kill everything that isn't taggable in this 25m cone" ability
sand furnace
So with psyker I can live out my fantasy of being a "fuck you" machine and make things drop dead
Interesting, is there a pamphlet I can read on this
haughty star
So with psyker I can live out my fantasy of being a "fuck you" machine and make ...
Funny you should ask
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959
sand furnace
Funny you should ask
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=291...
This pleases me greatly
haughty star
You'll find eventually alot of stuff is player preference but most of the stuff in there is pretty accurate and explains why
haughty star
This pleases me greatly
Also stay away from youtube builds and posted ones on games lanterns, if you want a base building block for a specific build just ask here for advice
sand furnace
Also stay away from youtube builds and posted ones on games lanterns, if you wan...
Games lantern?
haughty star
Games lantern?
Pretty much all of the posted ones on the suggested section or top rated are really bad despite being upvoted lol
sand furnace
Sounds like overframe
Now seems good as time as any to ask what's a good psyker build for doing the fun stuff like auric and the sort
haughty star
Depends on what stave you wanna use or if you wanna go gunker/melleker/assailker
sand furnace
These words mean nothing to me
But for simplicity sake I'll say a build for keeping the hordes down
haughty star
They all pretty good at that. I recommend Electrokinetic stave with some variant of a warp charges build for beginners
deft stump
Gunker is pewpew build, Meleeker is BEEG SWORD and Assilker is just spamming assail.
sand furnace
Is the big sword that force blaze sword
deft stump
The MOONLIGHT GREATSWORD.
Or Sword of Judgement, based on someone mentioning it's to be more accurate.
deft stump
The Force greatsword.
sand furnace
Okay then
haughty star
But for simplicity sake I'll say a build for keeping the hordes down
Something like this
sand furnace
Something like this
Oh neat, it's got the tickle fingers
deft stump
I'll jut be blunt and say I'll take most things being said as is, if you aren't insanely blatantly about it being sarcasm or a joke.
haughty star
Something like this
Or like this
sand furnace
Brain burst seems tricky to use. Does it speed up as the tree grows?
haughty star
Will be good for electro with warp nexus and warp flurry
haughty star
Brain burst seems tricky to use. Does it speed up as the tree grows?
You don't actually use it in the former, it's grabbed for kinetic flayer
In the first build smite is just used as a tool to get res of in sticky spots or do objs
They're basically the same but kinetic flayer blows off a free brain burst on anything specialist elite or monstrosity every 15 seconds
sand furnace
free brain burst you say? Do say more
nocturne dust
Brain burst seems tricky to use. Does it speed up as the tree grows?
not unless you take specific off-meta choices
Like Kinetic Resonance and Empowered Psionics
haughty star
And even then it's not great
nocturne dust
Brainburst in general is bad 😔 Fatshark buff plz 🙏
sand furnace
Oh it's bad? That blows. I liked the idea of making heads pop with thoughts and a hand squeeze
Guess I have no alternative but to be a meta slave to not be vote kicked
haughty star
It can be done but it's far from easy or the greatest
sand furnace
So out of those two builds which do you think is the most begineer friendly if any at all
nocturne dust
Guess I have no alternative but to be a meta slave to not be vote kicked
I mean, outside of Havoc nobody will care what you run
patent mango
Guess I have no alternative but to be a meta slave to not be vote kicked
you can use brainburst just fine if you want to
haughty star
So out of those two builds which do you think is the most begineer friendly if a...
Either or is fine. Smite helps beginners out alot tho
patent mango
brainburst is just kinda niche
haughty star
Just use Assail then.
No. Psy aura and no flayer
nocturne dust
No Wildfire either
haughty star
Not everything has to be blitz spam lol
patent mango
oh yeah i forgor flayer exists
deft stump
oh yeah i forgor flayer exists
It needs a lower CD.
patent mango
yea
sand furnace
What's the ideal weapon choice
deft stump
But we are talking for a newbie.
nocturne dust
But for simplicity sake I'll say a build for keeping the hordes down
with what weapons
nocturne dust
What's the ideal weapon choice
depends on what you want
sand furnace
with what weapons
That's the question now ain't it
nocturne dust
Left side is generally for staves
But the tree itself deals with hordes
So any staff would work for horde clear
sand furnace
The staves do interest me so I'd say that would be a good start
nocturne dust
You charge to 85% peril and then shriek and it wipes the whole horde
sand furnace
I believe I've gotten the answers I need
prime elk
i use smite for hordeclear 
nocturne dust
i use smite for hordeclear <:uwugryn:1062882479310110720>
begone foul demon
prime elk
just to spite zealots
prime elk
we do some light trolling
patent mango
scary
jovial juniper
we do some light trolling
*Lightning
prime elk
ty
strange jewel
When you use electro staff what melee you use for hordes?
prime elk
smite
strange jewel
Ew
cold ivy
i like electrokinetic with nexus + surge and shriek + warp siphon, it handles basically everything well - shriek for hordes, primary fire kills everything except crushers/bulwarks/bosses which you use secondary fire for
upper galleon
cold ivy
you can run illisi/force greatsword for additional horde clear, plus force sword push attack has crazy stagger and can get you out of some really fucked situations
strange jewel
i like electrokinetic with nexus + surge and shriek + warp siphon, it handles ba...
Oh allright so electro is pretty much an all rounder got it, got it
Thanks
cold ivy
electro sucks at horde clear
haughty star
It needs a lower CD.
Its fine for what it is. It's basically a guaranteed one tap on any stray mutie and a decent improvement on bossing damage
cold ivy
but shriek is great at it
prime elk
you def want shriek with EK
deft stump
just to spite zealots
Immune. Thanks for making my life easier.
prime elk
shriek is doing most of the work against hordes
strange jewel
Im trying to use this new big sword but the movement penalty is a fuck ton so no
haughty star
i like electrokinetic with nexus + surge and shriek + warp siphon, it handles ba...
Agreed. Ek is so newbie friendly. Just sideline and zap and yell to your hearts content
deft stump
Im trying to use this new big sword but the movement penalty is a fuck ton so no
@radiant frigate Someone hates the beeg sword.
bitter pelican
Im trying to use this new big sword but the movement penalty is a fuck ton so no
Both big swords actually have a surprising amount of stam to compensate
prime elk
yeah though fgs is quite slow without right side
jovial juniper
When you use electro staff what melee you use for hordes?
Chainsword
cold ivy
electrokinetic also handles specialists extremely well - charged RMB has autoaim and will instantly kill a trapper or scab bomber so you just point it in their general direction to delete specials for your team
prime elk
if you want a sidearm for EK, obscurus or illisi
strange jewel
At least big sword is good for fashion
deft stump
Both big swords actually have a surprising amount of stam to compensate
Makes blocking DH even easier.
dense flume
Apparently DH will just give up after a while?
strange jewel
if you want a sidearm for EK, obscurus or illisi
I used deimos for a while never changed to illisi even thought pretty much everyone talk about it
Will give it a try
dense flume
Apparently DH will just give up after a while?
Idk. Just happened to me. Kept blocking and my team left me to die and then it eventually f'd off
cold ivy
it used to be that EK + illisi meant killing mutants was kind of a pain, but with surge available as a EK blessing now you can also delete mutants with LMB spam
prime elk
I used deimos for a while never changed to illisi even thought pretty much every...
obscurus is also a very good all-rounder now. much more well-rounded than illisi, if you want to give it a try
deft stump
Idk. Just happened to me. Kept blocking and my team left me to die and then it e...
Did someone get downed?
strange jewel
OMG
I didn´t know I had this
"mortis operative skin"
Aig will defo use illisis then
Blessings for it?
strange jewel
Ye, upgraded just for the premiun currency cz got disscount xd
deft stump
Since that's forced Deimos skin
strange jewel
Masterys in general are jusrt xmas skins, awfull
dense flume
Did someone get downed?
Yeah, but not by DH, pretty sure
patent mango
imperial edition skin for fgs......
nocturne dust
it used to be that EK + illisi meant killing mutants was kind of a pain, but wit...
ew
deft stump
Yeah, but not by DH, pretty sure
They dook off if anyone gets killed or downed.
patent mango
i think only killed counts
dense flume
Ohhh alright, good to know
nocturne dust
Taking surge just for mutants is 💀
deft stump
I know cos somehow someone got pox to death when I was tanking one.
cold ivy
you don't take surge just for mutants! surge on EK deletes everything non-carapace
cold ivy
it's insane how fast that thing kills even without any quell cancel
nocturne dust
and it deletes carapace too
so just
invest in RMB and don't be a filthy LMB spammer
cold ivy
with quell cancel, LMB is completely over the top
haughty star
imperial edition skin for fgs......
Wait is this a thing?
haughty star
Blessings for it?
Slaughterer+whatever
deft stump
Not for FGS.
haughty star
I like shred cuz it procs mettle and empathetic if you take empathetic on surge
Ek*
nocturne dust
Blessings for it?
Slaughterer + Uncanny is the meta
but also Uncanny only matters for certain targets and if you have EK you can just use the staff for those targets soooooo
patent mango
Wait is this a thing?
nah just want it
haughty star
Was boutta say
nocturne dust
I want bigger sword
patent mango
wait for mark 4
nocturne dust
Give me ogryn greatsword
patent mango
just wielding it costs peril
haughty star
Ogryn bumper sword
strange jewel
Thanks, trying Illisis rn its better than expected, sooo the way to use it like the power sword on the vet?
strange jewel
Special, shin shin, special shin shin
deft stump
It's like, better than PS in the, normal attacks aren't dook.
I would love the Illisi on my vet.
_>
patent mango
they just gotta give vet ps heat bar
nocturne dust
the uncharged attacks are also good
*okay
Illisi without meleeker isn't that great. If you want to really horde clear with it you'll be forced into specials.
strange jewel
Dont want to use devil sword doesnt feel psiker enough
haughty star
I dig illisi. Especially with shred. The specials are on deck in a fraction of a second and the dodge buff feels nice on it
nocturne dust
Dont want to use devil sword doesnt feel psiker enough
Devil's Claw is basically just for parry memes
deft stump
Stroke heavy stroke heavy.
haughty star
I been running fgs8 tho with my ek and it's alright. I just love the reactions of people when you flatten a entire horde a ogryn or zelly was just starting to munch lol
With the special
analog agate
I still like unstable + slaughterer for illisi. Since I usually just zap (slowly) crushers
dense flume
I dig illisi. Especially with shred. The specials are on deck in a fraction of a...
But, but.... No poke 😦
prime elk
yes, use obscurus instead
haughty star
Nah obsucurus still just kinda worst of both worlds imo
Especially now that force greatsword is around and both marks are competent at both roles.
haughty star
But, but.... No poke 😦
You don't need poke with ek
dense flume
Oh we still on ek. Whoops
prime elk
Nah obsucurus still just kinda worst of both worlds imo
wdym, horde clear is similar to illisi
still deletes crushers
doesn't have the terrible mobility of fgs, while still being a force weapon
radiant frigate
<@272731082594713614> Someone hates the beeg sword.
Death
nocturne dust
doesn't have the terrible mobility of fgs, while still being a force weapon
Barely a force weapon
Call me when they fix the charged attack
prime elk
they have charge attacks? 
tender lynx
Sometimes when I hit 100% peril I can just press 'r' and be fine. Other times I can't interact and pressing 'r' does nothing and I die. I tried seeing if it was like if I'm at 99% and do a big move it kills me, but I can't find anything consistent
nocturne dust
Sometimes when I hit 100% peril I can just press 'r' and be fine. Other times I ...
If you can't quell, that means you've already perilled too much and are going to die
marble crater
What does R do?
tender lynx
quell
nocturne dust
If you can quell, you're fine
prime elk
i certainly wouldn't mind implementing a warp slice on 1h force swords
buoyant maple
Sword is cringe
Greatsword is tolerable
tender lynx
More trying to understand what would make it so I can quell some times and not others
nocturne dust
Like, if you hit 100% you won't necessarily explode and can be completely fine
marble crater
So reaching 100% peril doesn't kill you
marble crater
Straight into the warp
fringe basin
Do you follow any particular build weapon/blessing wise? I have not really played since release and never touched endgame. I am the fellow smite enjoyer from the other day.
nocturne dust
but there a (scant) few attacks that have 0 protection and will kill you, like the force sword push attack, if they hit over 100% from below 100%
tender lynx
Ok appreciate it, might just not be watching it enough
upper sun
so
rancid latch
Do you follow any particular build weapon/blessing wise? I have not really playe...
Not really for Psyker, I use duelling sword to murder elites that my team will not (or cannot) deal with for me while I stun using smite. For the ranged weapon, I use voidstrike staff to clear garbage if we don't need the crowd control.
upper sun
video games anyone?
fringe basin
video games anyone?
I'm something of a gamer myself.
hearty wolf
Isn't peril also rounded so your true peril is actually slightly off
Same with heat for vets plasma gun
hearty wolf
cheater >:(
nocturne dust
Yes
hearty wolf
can you get a mod that stops you from dc'ing tho
nocturne dust
upper sun
I'm something of a gamer myself.
my game refuses to run
nocturne dust
can you get a mod that stops you from dc'ing tho
No
hearty wolf
F
nocturne dust
bold cape
<@868290881726328884> you just got called out so hard
huh wha happen
i didnt even touch marty up until like 3 weeks ago
can’t a girl have some build variety around here
bold cape
idek there was a stigma around it
upper sun
there isnt
bold cape
yea i thought so lmao
upper sun
people pretend its a crutch because haha wounds
but in reality your team will NOT pick you up
nocturne dust
The stigma is wounds without marty 💀
bold cape
i dont even utilize the wounds aspect lmao
it’s just nice to have that atk speed on relic blade when not using fotf + tdr when im so often at low hp in havoc
upper sun
yeah
hearty dagger
Hey psyker chat, anything worth picking up from steam winter sale?
upper sun
people act like the wounds are for people to pick you up but in reality you cant rely on your team for that
upper sun
Hey psyker chat, anything worth picking up from steam winter sale?
have you played control?
hearty dagger
have you played control?
Played it on Epic
bold cape
Hey psyker chat, anything worth picking up from steam winter sale?
signalis
bold cape
uhh
upper sun
prototype 2
bold cape
i picked up stellaris for like $4
and rogue trader
hearty dagger
prototype 2
Played it to hell back in the day
Honestly, the 3 options i'm at least semi interested in is the Dead Space remake, EDF 6 and despite my hatred for it, Space Marine 2
bold cape
tactical breach wizards is good
tender lynx
Echo Point Nova is a great FPS with awesome movement tech, sliding/surfing like old Tribes. Grappling hooks, etc
bold cape
roboquest good fps indie roguelike
bold cape
Honestly, the 3 options i'm at least semi interested in is the Dead Space remake...
out of those 3 dead space all the way
bold cape
sm2 is pretty good
but doesn’t have the skill ceiling or replayability dt has
nocturne dust
(very personal anti-horror game opinion)
bold cape
i like horror games, but i cannot play them
hearty dagger
Honestly, my biggest gripe with SM2 is Saber is comically incompetent
They either have THE worst update testers alive or they have the strategy of "SHIP IT, MONZO!"
hearty dagger
WWZ is not too horrible
At least it's not overtly offensive to look at from the outside like SM2 is
nocturne dust
Honestly, my biggest gripe with SM2 is Saber is comically incompetent
That reminds me of some dev 
bold cape
i like horror games, but i cannot play them
i scream at literally everything and my anxiety just doesn’t let me play anything scarier than resident evil
nocturne dust
Lol I have the opposite problem
I'm never scared
Horror games are just boring to me
hearty dagger
That reminds me of some dev <:loregryn:1036580674741731379>
Honestly, Fartshark does have some moments but at least the bugs here are usually so fucking weird that you can get away with the explanation of "they just couldn't replicate it"
bold cape
let’s swap brains
nocturne dust
No, I like my brain
hearty dagger
Meanwhile, SM2 adjusted parry timings, shipped it, and completely broke parrying.
hearty wolf
Horror games are just boring to me
gree
I play them for the resource management
not the horror section
feral gazelle
Sm2 also decided that ammo wasn't very important at launch so there was just no ammo in a game with just OK melee combat
nocturne dust
Lmao, I hate on survival games because of the stupid resource management
"Yes I'd like to manually drink water and control my throat muscles for the 10,000th time, how did you know?"
bold cape
sm2 is also just
easy
which isn’t inherently a bad thing but it leaves much to be desired
hearty dagger
From what i've seen
hearty dagger
SM2 also has the problem of thinking ridiculously long finishers is actually something people like
bold cape
(im one of them)
bold cape
it’s a casual game to me
it’s something i play when i want to destress and relax, and kill things
hearty dagger
Then it's just a chore to see BATTLE BROTHER DECIMUS WITH HIS TRUSTY COMBAT KNIFE stab a nid to death
feral gazelle
For the first 2 times
After that it's the equivalent of watching paint dry while getting electrocuted by a car battery
nocturne dust
(im one of them)
ew
nocturne dust
Ew, ew, ew
hearty dagger
Also, one thing i'm mad at
Arguably, SM2's store page has blatant false advertising
nocturne dust
Also, you can have the evisceration without the locking down of literally anything you can do
bold cape
Ew, ew, ew
going to fuckign kill you
hearty dagger
"Make and play your own space marine" doesn't exactly imply named ultramarines you can have larp as other chapters
nocturne dust
Like, I don't need a cutscene in my videogame every time I want to kill something
bold cape
"Make and play your own space marine" doesn't exactly imply named ultramarines y...
this is true
nocturne dust
In fact, cutscenes in general are bad and dumb
Lemme have freedom
Lemme get up to shenanigans
bold cape
most cosmetics are just recolored ultramarines
nocturne dust
Lemme inch closer while the boss is monologuing
bold cape
until they added the dark angels stuff at least
ashen schooner
salamander skin being a sniper is a god dam shame
bold cape
idk i just want beaky helmet and lightning claws, then i will be satisfied
bold cape
salamander skin being a sniper is a god dam shame
wait what?
hearty dagger
You've gotta be fucking kidding
bold cape
huuuuh
ashen schooner
yep next champion pack is for salamanders and it's for the sniper class
ashen schooner
it's looks really cool....but I don't think of snipers for them
"Everyone loves Salamanders, us included, and we really wanted to give them a Champion. Heavy and Tactical would have been good candidates, but Heavy was already taken, and we have a different idea for Tactical."
bold cape
surely this means we get a raven guard assault with lightning claws though 
ashen schooner
I'm guessing fist or hand for heavy then
"An obvious choice for the Sniper Champion would have been to be a Raven Guard, but we have different plans for them."
so probably getting the beakies and claws at some point
bold cape
literally all i ever wanted
though not having the raven guard on the class that literally goes invisible is quite the choice i wont lie
but if they cook i dont mind
ashen schooner
I guess it's early so they don't want to double dip classes yet, but with only 6 classes there's a ton of overlap with just the base chapters
nocturne dust
literally all i ever wanted
bold cape
im a simple creature im sorry
radiant frigate
i am also a simple creature
zinc phoenix
down to four skulls to find
radiant frigate
i like big swords
radiant frigate
not too big though
zinc phoenix
skull hunting has easily been the most fun ive had in this game
bold cape
not too big though
perfect amount of big
not colossal hunk of metal big
but long thin and clean
zinc phoenix
not a girth enjoyer i see
radiant frigate
perfect amount of big
not colossal hunk of metal big
but long thin and clean
like claymore big
bold cape
yes
marble crater
bold cape
exactly
bold cape
REAL
radiant frigate
i fucking LOVE loyce greatsword
zinc phoenix
im at just shy of 5200 penance points so the really hard ones are gonna start soon
zinc phoenix
like ogryn penances 😬
marble crater
im at just shy of 5200 penance points so the really hard ones are gonna start so...
Reaper kills and dodges, never getting those done I swear
zinc phoenix
"surive boredom for 500 billion hours"
- every ogryn penance
zinc phoenix
Reaper kills and dodges, never getting those done I swear
i got reaper dodge done because i slide constantly
bold cape
the light greatswords in er dlc have resparked that magic for me though
actual peak
marble crater
I could be done if not for my break I guess, but alas
radiant frigate
like the way you held your weapon
as opposed to the upward grip on every twohander ever in all the other games?
nocturne dust
im a simple creature im sorry
https://youtu.be/tPrIt5v_KTo See and understand. These warp visions are for you.
zinc phoenix
flawless execution is tricky tho
15 missions with no downs forces you to play very weird
radiant frigate
which looks SO TIRING
radiant frigate
I feel old now
someone will start casting "bones to dust" on you any moment now
marble crater
15 missions with no downs forces you to play very weird
Just don't go down and play malice or whatever is needed, I did that very early on while I was not good enough yet to get bored in malice 
zinc phoenix
Just don't go down and play malice or whatever is needed, I did that very early ...
well i coupled it with getting untouchable so that made things a little more exciting
bold cape
i get very happy when games with bigger swords actually have you swing them like swords instead of just flailing them in front of you
zinc phoenix
and i think i played it on heresy or damn
marble crater
Untouchable is walking while blocking simulator
zinc phoenix
i got it playing normally
zinc phoenix
altho at the end event when i realized what was about to happen i started playing very defensive
zinc phoenix
flawless is not fucking doable tho
i mean... not if you mong out all the time 😂
upper sun
i mean... not if you mong out all the time 😂
i tried to do it one day i was at 13/15 all in a row
and i just killed myself by accident
no enemies near by nothing
i just barreled myself for zero reason
zinc phoenix
nice work
marble crater
Literally skill issue
upper sun
i was too tired to function 😭
zinc phoenix
im also 35k away from the 500k enemies killed cosmetic
so that'll be fun
this is the first game ive gone achievement hunting in and ive had a good time
marble crater
Can be fun yeah
zinc phoenix
also boosting stam + stam regen is well worth it
bold cape
balatro 100% is never happening
hearty wolf
balatro 100% is never happening
wdym
bold cape
as in it’d probably take hundreds of hours
it’s on the obsurdity level of like
learning how to be good at mahjong just to 100% yakuza
hearty wolf
xD
feral gazelle
as in it’d probably take hundreds of hours
it’s on the obsurdity level of like
l...
That took me like over 100 hours
Just mahjong
bold cape
so basically you have to win a gold stake (highest difficulty) run while holding every single joker at least once
there's 150 jokers and usually in a run you only hold 4-8 jokers
and you end up using a lot of the same ones between runs because most of them are either straight up bad, require perfect synergy, or are consumable cards that disappear after a number of rounds so you just have to get really lucky getting them late
it isnt much help that gold stake is legit just hard in general
hearty wolf
You can choose your deck though, which can help a lot
It's completionist ++ for a reason
bold cape
and also legendary jokers
you have to get all 5 of them in gold stake
and win with them after building around them
i dont even have all 5 of them yet
hearty wolf
completionist is a lot more relaxed
bold cape
one day the game will give me chicot
bold cape
That took me like over 100 hours
im so sorry
the older games are such a pain to 100% lmao
kiwami 1 car sequence in legend
you will never be forgotten nor forgiven
hearty dagger
So i'm thinking of picking up one of:
SM2
Outlast Trials
Dead Space Remake (eeeeeh, not too sure on it but is good game)
EDF6
patent mango
edf6 is fire
bold cape
do sm2, im totally not biased towards the genre
hearty dagger
One thing i'm sorta apprehensive about is the gameplay kinda seems like not my thing
But Fencer my beloved
patent mango
fencer sword gaming
hearty dagger
I'm not interested in swords
Give me the artillery
Explosives are the only melee weapon i need
bold cape
never been a fan of edf
but i heard a lot of negative discourse about the new one
(i dont know anything about it)
bold cape
mfw every game these days needs a separate launcher or account to play
hearty dagger
Fuck it, i'll wheel it
First to hit 3 wins
Alright, the wheel and my budget have decided on SM2 and Outlast Trials
rancid wadi
Is there a decent build for havoc that uses force blaze gs
My current meta build has kinda too low warp cap and tend to max out the percentage with just two special slashes
Or do I just gotta suck it up and start using the dueling sword
patent mango
sg dd gaming
zinc phoenix
But you can still make the cleave work
rancid wadi
Beyond that it starts to fall off
Oof
zinc phoenix
SG is kinda meh tbh
patent mango
funny dmg
zinc phoenix
At least i can’t make it work in high havoc
Not without a second guy doing bubble bitch and then it’s like why do we need a melee monster when we have a trauma/burger
patent mango
zinc phoenix
The big stuff is reaper/boss, horde clear, bubble, book
SG/DD fgs is only really horde clear and not able to crack armor well
In bulk
Also I just did a 3x psyker with me penance hunting as zealot and I s2g all of them were smite
It was a chill mission with a lot of pickup penance progress gained 😂
rancid latch
Also I just did a 3x psyker with me penance hunting as zealot and I s2g all of t...
smite is so good, it's gonna get nerfed probs
thorn cedar
We've been saying that for over a year and it has only ever received buffs
analog agate
Smite is incorrectly used by the majority of people. Won’t get nerfed
patent mango
We've been saying that for over a year and it has only ever received buffs
this means charged strike has hope
rancid wadi
Ok I can work with ds mkIV
The x slash light attack is kinda dookie but I can manage
split lance
Smite is incorrectly used by the majority of people. Won’t get nerfed
I’ve seen maybe 1 rando ever use smite effectively
analog agate
Yeah, truly. I can count on one hand
bold cape
Ok I can work with ds mkIV
only like
the best weapon in the entire game
rancid wadi
only like
the best weapon in the entire game
I dont like doing a meta jerk off
And the x fast slash is still mid af
bold cape
its not great but its not like it offsets the insane heavies, special, mobility etc
haughty star
I’ve seen maybe 1 rando ever use smite effectively
I like to use it on that one modifier, mostly melees with enhanced blitz or some shit
rancid wadi
its not great but its not like it offsets the insane heavies, special, mobility ...
Yeh it's good, takes some getting used to
haughty star
I just asked a dude the other day that was smiting everything while he was smiting a monstrosity if he had unequipped the rest of the kit jokingly amd he replied all mad with "I'm applying enfeeble this is a support psyker" lol
haughty star
And the x fast slash is still mid af
Yeah that's not what it's for except on zealot lol
bold cape
I just asked a dude the other day that was smiting everything while he was smiti...
surely he jests
haughty star
Nah he was like actually mad. I wish he had replied in text cuz my background recording had crashed
rancid wadi
Yeah that's not what it's for except on zealot lol
But I like using my fast attack every now and then
What's the meta swinging on it anyways
bold cape
Nah he was like actually mad. I wish he had replied in text cuz my background re...
what diff were you in lmao
haughty star
what diff were you in lmao
Auric damn
bold cape
huuuuuh
haughty star
Pubs are trash right now bro lol
haughty star
Dudes with 300 gear score tryna square up with the 2nd hardest difficulty on the game
bold cape
little jimmy wants havoc 16 when he cant handle auric mael
haughty star
theyve been oddly bad since havoc dropped
Playstation and come back kids from the before times
haughty star
little jimmy wants havoc 16 when he cant handle auric mael
Hilariously enough havoc 16 is a cake walk compared to most auric maelstrom in my experience
bold cape
Dudes with 300 gear score tryna square up with the 2nd hardest difficulty on the...
tbf i did bring a 300 gear score ogryn into it and did just fine lmao
i think its just people who're bad
bold cape
Hilariously enough havoc 16 is a cake walk compared to most auric maelstrom in m...
i jumped straight into 35ish
so idek what its like lower than that
haughty star
tbf i did bring a 300 gear score ogryn into it and did just fine lmao
i think it...
If i get the good fortune of jumping into a not in session on quick plays and I see someone with bad gear I just dip now lol
bold cape
thats fair
the only time i leave a game is if im in the first ~minute and i see a smitker who smites 4 walkers
then im out
analog agate
I have gotten to the point where if 2 people suck I don’t care. If the other person can survive. Cool
bold cape
i dont mind when people arent amazing
or bring meme loadouts
just smitkers
thats it xd
i have off days sometimes
and bring things that shouldnt really work
dense flume
As a hybrid platformer, on ps5 I turn xplay off so the others that join get a harsh reality check just how much they've likely been getting carried by PC players thus far
But it's nice finding decent thumb rats, too
rancid latch
i dont mind when people arent amazing
or bring meme loadouts
just smitkers
thats...
quit crying about smite
omg
dense flume
Quell canceling is... Tricky lol
rancid latch
you're gonna hurt the ability's feelings
bold cape
quit crying about smite
rancid latch
https://tenor.com/view/crying-mood-hamster-sad-emotional-gif-20645758
SMITE LOVES THE EMPEROR JUST AS MUCH AS YOU, OK?
bold cape
only brought it up cause zerk mentioned meeting an angy support psyker in the wild
rancid latch
ah ok, bad timing then cuz I just checked the chat lol
bold cape
and it got quite the giggle out of me
nocturne dust
SMITE LOVES THE EMPEROR JUST AS MUCH AS YOU, OK?
rancid latch
https://tenor.com/view/no-donald-glover-gif-9328128
i have it on very good authority that Smite is a devout follower of the Emperor
marble crater
What are we doing, bashing smite again?
rancid latch
no, no... I checked to make sure
alyx's megalomaniacal rants about how smite is akin to worshipping nurgle's gooch isn't happening atm
but im on overwatch, gotta protect Palpatine's livelihood
patent mango
daily smite discussion
rancid latch
daily smite inquisition*
ashen vine
There a way to make scier's gaze revolver work compared to something like bubble/disrupt revolver?
hearty wolf
I feel like the ult is a lot more impactful there than the weapon
nocturne dust
i have it on very good authority that Smite is a devout follower of the Emperor
And is that authority Nurgle?
rancid latch
And is that authority Nurgle?
im pleading the 5th
zinc phoenix
Quell canceling is... Tricky lol
It’s also 100% unnecessary at every level of play
cold trellis
Heresy
zinc phoenix
I just asked a dude the other day that was smiting everything while he was smiti...
Those guys are legit hilarious
patent mango
by that point just play ogryn to get soften them up on the boss
haughty star
What's the meta swinging on it anyways
Poke, poke, dodge, poke, dodge poke
Its just poke man
If a crusher is about to end your life, do the special poke
rancid wadi
Poke, poke, dodge, poke, dodge poke
Is the special poke morw of a stagger poke
haughty star
Yes
rancid wadi
Aight thanks, I think I'll get the hang of it eventually
haughty star
It will stagger a crusher or maulers out of overhand lol
cold trellis
So you don‘t get overheaded while trying this: you gotta headshot to get the stagger
rancid wadi
So you don‘t get overheaded while trying this: you gotta headshot to get the sta...
Lmao I was gonna get overheaded so hard
zinc phoenix
If a crusher is about to end your life, do the special poke
Even better vs rager
Special poke into big poke
Cuts them out of their combo
deft stump
you dont need the grenade perks its fine
HERESY. BOOM BOOMS GUD.
past sparrow
Can anyone give me a quick rundown of the 3 marks of Recon Lasgun ?
haughty star
12 is best for proccing crit talents, one of the other two is balanced, the strongest and slowest shooting one has better armor but is a ammo pig
dense flume
Brr, brrrr, and bbrrrrrrrrrrr?
quaint meadow
There a way to make scier's gaze revolver work compared to something like bubble...
I mean it already does work
Just bubble easy mode
past sparrow
Whats the VLC one do
that one unlocked last at mastery 10
or should that be Mark 6c ?
dusty temple
Is damage taken by existing soulblaze stacks effected by the empyric shock debuff?
rancid latch
Whats the VLC one do
also a great video player :p
ivory cloak
is havoc mode fixed?
rancid latch
is havoc mode fixed?
not according to https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1042892129594245130
ivory cloak
oh i see, thanks
sturdy reef
is the penance screen also bugged lol
bold cape
penances working fine for me
inland ice
gang i just had a poxburster jump straight through my block push using fgs
how is this possible?
nocturne dust
Did you push attack?
past sparrow
Man just me or Assail seems really really bad?
strong gulch
Between lag, desync, and a burster getting multiple stagger sources, sometimes they just don't push. (or get pushed in the wrong direction)
Did you level with assail and how are you using it now?
past sparrow
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d413a41-b3e7-490e-a5fd-eccf038e9266/mister-es-hybrid-assail Just using this but with a Chainaxe for melee
nocturne dust
ew
patent mango
oh god mister e
past sparrow
Well it doesn't say its a havoc build ?
patent mango
no warp split its over
strong gulch
Because assail becomes what it's supposed to be in T5s. In lower difficulty it can cleanup everything. Just spam and it wipes out a horde and elite mobs in lower difficulties vs in T5 you have to be more measured. It's still spam but also focusing on those elites trying to get you. There is also way more enemy density in harder content.
Also high havoc has higher mass, density, and pus hardened skin (depending on modifier), so assail has a lot working against it there.
patent mango
wait why tranquility hes not using scriers
past sparrow
I just tried the build in Damnation, and the Assail didn't really feel like doing anything worhwhile
patent mango
I just tried the build in Damnation, and the Assail didn't really feel like doin...
warp splitting helps a lot
nocturne dust
Well it doesn't say its a havoc build ?
it looks like a Havoc build
patent mango
nocturne dust
No scriers, taking bubble
past sparrow
warp splitting helps a lot
Does it affect the Assail splinters
patent mango
it hits more targets then
past sparrow
No scriers, taking bubble
Yea imho Bubble seems better
elder glade
Yep, warp splitting boosts the amount of targets it can hit
past sparrow
Buble turns off ranged enemies
patent mango
if you need points cruel fortune from dd, that toughness node and perilous combustion could go
nocturne dust
Yes
So does sliding
Slide
Learn to slide
Don't use bubble, it's a crutch outside Havoc
It's only meta in Havoc because you have to basically avoid all ranged damage or instantly die
past sparrow
If anything when i do have Scriers i just never really use it
patent mango
yeah ranged units in havoc are so silly
proper osprey
Even then it’s not needed
strong gulch
Assail also staggers man sized targets, most shooters are that size.
proper osprey
You could do venting with 2 book zealots
nocturne dust
If anything when i do have Scriers i just never really use it
No offense, but that is literally a skill issue
Assail staggers ragers 
proper osprey
If anything when i do have Scriers i just never really use it
I love it with dclaw melee psyker
past sparrow
Assail staggers ragers <:pogryn:961977701533614130>
truly impressive
But
Chainaxe kills them
proper osprey
Chainaxe kills them
You gotta use the worst weapon on psyker
past sparrow
Dead Rager ✅
Staggered Rager ❌
past sparrow
You gotta use the worst weapon on psyker
yea i am leveing masteries
its not that bad tho
strong gulch
It's not just stagger one rager.
nocturne dust
I would be very surprised if you can kill more than a single rager before they start beating the crap out of you with Chainaxe
Assail can stagger a lot more than 1 tho
proper osprey
Dead Rager ✅
Staggered Rager ❌
Silly billy if you charge into that many ragers with the mk 4 you’re cooked
proper osprey
yea i am leveing masteries
I like it on vet and zealot but psyker is a stretch
past sparrow
I like it on vet and zealot but psyker is a stretch
it does its job
kills the enemy
strong gulch
Assail can kill ragers but it can also give you breathing room. Gunners at the back, ragers at the front. Assail to kill and give room to reposition.
proper osprey
past sparrow
nothing is going to beat the Duelling Sword anyways
nocturne dust
Mad talk for someone in FGS distance
past sparrow
including assail
big sus on that one
nocturne dust
big sus on that one
Bruh, everyone is literally telling you assail kills things
proper osprey
yea i am leveing masteries
Just buy a bunch of them and make them green then sacrifice them
strong gulch
You can just not like assail. It's not bad tho.
radiant frigate
fgs denier?
nocturne dust
All you have to do is look vaguely in enemy directions and they will die if they aren't heavily armored
radiant frigate
siblings, rupture his brain
strong gulch
assail denier
past sparrow
Bruh, everyone is literally telling you assail kills things
Sure as hell don't feel like it does more than placebo
nocturne dust
Sure as hell don't feel like it does more than placebo
Your feelings are wrong 
Everyone here is telling you this
proper osprey
Yeah assail with warp unbound and like the 3 other damage talents unnerfs assail
radiant frigate
are you using the bazillion damage buffs from psyker talents
nocturne dust
He's using shield instead of scrier's
nocturne dust
in normal mode
strong gulch
I mean assail shriek does a lot too.
bold cape
definitely recommend against taking shield in non-havoc lmao
past sparrow
Well then i've seen y'all glazing it so far, but no one has come with a build yet
patent mango
just use warp splitting
radiant frigate
for assail?
nocturne dust
Well then i've seen y'all glazing it so far, but no one has come with a build ye...
Very passive aggressive way to ask
dense flume
It’s also 100% unnecessary at every level of play
That's fair. Guess it was just at the front of my mind since I've been messing with it lately, probably should have referred any of the other more difficult things related to controller use he
nocturne dust
Here, Gunker is Assailker is Meleeker
Run recon/vraks, run a force sword (great or not), profit
Swap to assail to gen toughness and help clear scattered enemies/horde
patent mango
if you dont run assail you remove one of the subclass names from it
nocturne dust
Swap to melee to chew things up, FGS works best
past sparrow
Here, Gunker is Assailker is Meleeker
Aight
past sparrow
activate scrier's for big groups or if you're bored
Which mark of Recon Lasgun
radiant frigate
Which mark of Recon Lasgun
The Fast One™️
12 i think?
past sparrow
depends a bit on what weapons i get from drops
nocturne dust
Which mark of Recon Lasgun
Any work, I forget which one it is but the general recommendation is the one with the lowest damage (because it is the most ammo efficient and fires the fastest)
proper osprey
proper osprey
melee psyker but dclaw?
Yeah
strong gulch
Well then i've seen y'all glazing it so far, but no one has come with a build ye...
Here is a non scrier's build with a video.
https://youtu.be/DmuEgEBHzrY?si=NqPiiaZA8JIKyUQP
I personally prefer to have quietude in my builds, so I would have to make sacrifice for it.
nocturne dust
I can’t keep dd up
Anyone who says they can is a liar
proper osprey
Parry spam
proper osprey
melee psyker but dclaw?
It’s so good
radiant frigate
feels like the distant cousin of melee psyker
proper osprey
I love parrying the curshers and maulers to death
radiant frigate
what i love more is hitting them in the head with fgs
proper osprey
It’s the only time I take kd
past sparrow
Here, Gunker is Assailker is Meleeker
So am i to understand that Warp Splitting has higher value than Ethereal Shards ?
nocturne dust
So am i to understand that Warp Splitting has higher value than Ethereal Shards ...
Yes
radiant frigate
Ye
past sparrow
wtf
strong gulch
ye
proper osprey
I take them both
past sparrow
thats weird
proper osprey
nocturne dust
It increases your assail cleave more and also increases cleave of your melee and ranged
radiant frigate
it epic
strong gulch
If you have like 20% peril you already get what ethereal shards gives you.
late sapphire
If you have like 20% peril you already get what ethereal shards gives you.
you dont even need 20%
it rounds up
nocturne dust
And assail tends to disappear before it needs the cleave ethereal shards would give on top of warp splitting
strong gulch
hahah incredible
celest kindle
Do people really play that gameslantern smite build in havoc 40?
past sparrow
Here, Gunker is Assailker is Meleeker
If anything i might swap "By Crack and Bone" for "Ethereal Shards"
late sapphire
darktide matchmaking is currently so fucked i have just been playing helldivers instead
nocturne dust
If anything i might swap "By Crack and Bone" for "Ethereal Shards"
no, don't
late sapphire
its pretty fun at difficulty 10 anything below is a walking sim though
nocturne dust
Get Quick Shards if you must, but ethereal shards is whatever with warp splitting, and By Crack of Bone while in melee lets you stay in Scrier's which is very useful
late sapphire
if you are in melee as a psyker you will always be weakspot killing
late sapphire
all of your weapons have a huge finesse bonus
past sparrow
ic
nocturne dust
Just swing at head
late sapphire
Here is a non scrier's build with a video.
https://youtu.be/DmuEgEBHzrY?si=NqPii...
if you want to drop a node you can drop Cruel Fortune (dd subnode) or Empathic Evasion (dodge on crit)
patent mango
all you do is weakspot kill
late sapphire
those are kind of extraneous
nocturne dust
if you want to drop a node you can drop Cruel Fortune (dd subnode) or Empathic E...
Don't drop Cruel Fortune
strong gulch
I miss the head A LOT and I still get enough weakspots for by crack of bone or the extra stacks on kill from DD.
patent mango
u can drop cruel fortune just fine
nocturne dust
I hate people who think stacking DD is easy and totally fine 
late sapphire
Don't drop Cruel Fortune
it stinks though
patent mango
I hate people who think stacking DD is easy and totally fine <:angymorrow:106267...
lock in?
late sapphire
idk its easy and totally fine
patent mango
nocturne dust
I have the fixed buff bar, I track DD's uptime
late sapphire
just super carry
late sapphire
i have dd stuck in the middle of my screen i cant not see it
its so fine without cruel fortune
patent mango
i have it below stam bar
thorn cedar
nocturne dust
Maybe if you're like the only one killing
and you also kill like single targets at a time
patent mango
i mean i kill a lot
patent mango
im just stabbing people and it works idk
thorn cedar
you dont need it for 15 stacks thats for sure
patent mango
oh yea for 4s i think then cruel is mandatory
thorn cedar
maybe if youre worried about stacking it back up quickly
but no you really dont need it
nocturne dust
I mean you don't need anything
patent mango
yeah you get 20s to refresh it to 15
nocturne dust
yeah you get 20s to refresh it to 15
20 seconds?
patent mango
perfectionism just seems like pure anxiety gameplay
nocturne dust
patent mango
20 seconds?
counting 14
thorn cedar
perfectionism is dope
nocturne dust
I disagree
strong gulch
I should try perfectionism on my assail trauma build if I get get good and peril management again.
haughty star
yeah i don't have any issues doing dd stacks lol. when the indicator is working and i'm in combat i always have at least 10 or 12.
patent mango
when the destiny is disrupted
haughty star
nah
nocturne dust
Everybody said mettle had great uptime too, and then I tested it and it had crap uptime
haughty star
not even gonna waste the energy on something so stupid as saying something with a 10 second stack drop is hard to keep up lol
nocturne dust
Everybody just assumes crap, smh my head
patent mango
but i have it in the middle of my screen
strong gulch
We're talking about perfectionism. not the other one
patent mango
he isnt
haughty star
nah i been looking alot after you make that bold claim and it's right next to my crosshairs lol
nocturne dust
No, I'm also talking about lingering Influence
patent mango
perfectionism can really be a massive cope lol
nocturne dust
Perfectionism is a massive cope, yes
nocturne dust
nah i been looking alot after you make that bold claim and it's right next to my...
Then it should be easy for you to prove with a video
haughty star
you prove it by not having your stacks up in a video
nocturne dust
But then you'll just say I'm not playing right
which is what everyone already says
so guess what
show me how to play right
haughty star
na
nocturne dust
Then I guess I am playing right and am correct since nobody can disprove it
haughty star
sure
patent mango
ig we'll have to keep dd for ourselves
nocturne dust
I didn't say DD is bad
patent mango
stacks all mine
haughty star
idk what hud you use but none of the ones i've tried have had the dd indicator fixed lol
patent mango
better buff hud
nocturne dust
yeh, better buff hud
celest kindle
What is a super viable psyker build for havoc 40 if you are solo psyker? Gameslantern is a little...iffy
I usually go bubble and purg staff
vagrant cedar
What is a super viable psyker build for havoc 40 if you are solo psyker? Gamesla...
feel like it would take you forever to do it solo
nocturne dust
Bubble and trauma or purg, yeah
I would go Fire Trauma
Or rending trauma if you feel like your team is at least somewhat competent (and you better hope they are on Havoc)
late sapphire
idk what hud you use but none of the ones i've tried have had the dd indicator f...
better buff management + an extra bar
wheat seal
why combat blade better than DS4? in my opinion DS4 has more damage in weak spot
deft stump
Ah yes, 3 psykers and a ogryn. Too many Spark 'eads, he says. Easiest Auric damn game for the night, lul.
magic cipher
I used rending trauma for a bit and felt like rending is great vs bosses for team damage
nocturne dust
why combat blade better than DS4? in my opinion DS4 has more damage in weak spot
This is from the Atheneum?
wheat seal
y
nocturne dust
Atheneum is sussy sometimes
Especially on the more opinionated stuff like tier lists for blessings and builds
patent mango
ds4 is just the best really
nocturne dust
The main reason to take knife would be mobility
wheat seal
don't realy like the combat blade
nocturne dust
so you could reposition more easily
magic cipher
Yeah the athenaeum had me believing quell cancelling was essential for fire trauma
patent mango
that has a quell cancel?
nocturne dust
and there's no true infinite pump build
wheat seal
2 times in a row finish Maelstrom, and got an "error code" at the end, so we got no rewards
patent mango
are slopshark servers exploding lmao
nocturne dust
you will have to quell if you play the game and happen to not have 100 enemies squished into a small location for you to kill faster than you can generate peril
wheat seal
"45k"
