psyker-class

[sullen whale]

Chat, is this cap or fr?!

[strong gulch]

Yeah it's mostly been under the radar.

Some have mentioned it being good, but I think we hard forgot about it because of the FGS.

[deft stump]

Is true hybird.

[autumn smelt]

im being serious
it now has actual combos for both single target and group clear

[strong gulch]

Which cap?

[autumn smelt]

and has higher ttks on important things like crushers than things like the fgs

like STUPIDLY fast

blink and youll miss it

[deft stump]

But is boring compared to big sword.

[sullen whale]

Do you dump warp res on it now or?

[strong gulch]

This might make me remember to actually try the worked obscurus.

[autumn smelt]

which is why people will keep overlooking it for quite a while longer

[deft stump]

Think, tiny magic man with big frigging sword.

[autumn smelt]

you always did for FS

[deft stump]

Bonk.

[sullen whale]

funny cuz i check store and top of list is a warp res dumped obsuris

[strong gulch]

Oh lmao sry.

Dump warp resist for real sword.

[deft stump]

Game telling you to do it.

[sullen whale]

It is the coolest looking mark

[deft stump]

So go do it.

[autumn smelt]

its also worth noting that it has these ttks while also having really high mobility

[sullen whale]

but I know nothing about the weapon, what's the special on it even

[autumn smelt]

the sticky fs special

[deft stump]

Stroke to win.

[autumn smelt]

like deimos

[deft stump]

Stroke and hed go boom.

[sullen whale]

HUH? ima just enter psykanium

stroke in private ig

[maiden oracle]

Are we talking about obscurus fs

[deft stump]

Yes.

[autumn smelt]

yeah

[maiden oracle]

I been using deimos so far since it has this heavy light X slash combo that I really liked

[autumn smelt]

ive not played much with it either since it dropped cuz ive also been heehee big sword

[maiden oracle]

The special attack also looked cool but it didn’t feel like it did anything worthwhile besides getting me killed in a horde

[autumn smelt]

but during playtest the obscurus changes were already viewed as "this thing is now really strong"

[autumn lark]

Small reminder

[maiden oracle]

Good at horde clear or st or just generally cracked

[autumn lark]

Disrupt destiny stacks degrade

You dont lose them all when the time for the stacks run out

[deft stump]

Big bonk go unless srs game, then Illisi my old friend.

[radiant frigate]

but what if crusher or bulwark

[strong gulch]

I know arco likes the change

[radiant frigate]

new obscurus so good unfortunately it came out at the same time as big sword

[maiden oracle]

Aight I’m gonna be using obscurus

[radiant frigate]

back into obscurity

[maiden oracle]

What’s the build for it

[autumn smelt]

that was just on my havoc build

it works on anything tbh

such is the nature of psyker melees

[maiden oracle]

Amazing

[sullen whale]

ok but what if instead i slice 4 crushers in half with greatsword special instead

[maiden oracle]

What perks and blessings

[autumn smelt]

i had slaught and uncanny on it cuz BALANCE !!!!

[potent echo]

Did obscurus get changed?

[maiden oracle]

Flak unyielding too?

[autumn smelt]

yes lmao

[deft stump]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Just die already!!!! Stroke slashing in a panic.

[maiden oracle]

What’s the horde and st combo

[potent echo]

I know it got changed once with a little extra h1 dmg

Is there other stuff other than enhanced dodge

[deft stump]

So, no different from normal.

[radiant frigate]

yes it has another light after the sweepy heavy so you have an actual horde clear combo
and the uppercut light got juiced up too

[weary idol]

when

[potent echo]

Uppercut light lul

[autumn smelt]

h2 OR slide light OR push then light > light > heavy > light

for horde

[potent echo]

I guess H>L>L loop

[autumn smelt]

and single target is h1>l2>l3

[potent echo]

Yea

[maiden oracle]

For the horde I loop all the attacks after the first one right

[radiant frigate]

down up poke repeat

[maiden oracle]

Or do I restart with heavy/push

It’s specifically push and not push attack right

[autumn smelt]

grim protocols

[weary idol]

they buffed a force sword

at the same time they released the cool new force greatswords

[autumn smelt]

@potent echo @weary idol

[maiden oracle]

How do I choose between which of the 3 moves to start with

Or does it not really matter much

[autumn smelt]

i do not have an answer for you cuz ive not used it outside of the psyk lmao

[maiden oracle]

Ah ok lol

[autumn smelt]

but those are just the entrypoints into the combo

[deft stump]

I just want Illisi lights and Deimos heavies.

[autumn lark]

(Force greatsword is superior)

[maiden oracle]

Alright thanks

When should I use the special

[autumn smelt]

sure

[maiden oracle]

I vaguely recall obscurus being the fgs you spam special on

Or was that illisi

[autumn smelt]

illisi

[autumn lark]

Mk8 has a oneshot or 2shot

[maiden oracle]

Whoops

[deft stump]

Illisi.

[autumn lark]

Depending on push stab or heavy chain

[maiden oracle]

So just like Deimos I don’t bother using special?

[deft stump]

Stroke heavy, stroke heavy.

[autumn smelt]

i just 2 shot it with scriers

[maiden oracle]

Does the push stab one shot need scriers active

Oh also would you run riposte precog or unstable precog

I tried asking para and he ripped out all of my teeth and then disemboweled me with my jaw

[autumn lark]

Force mettle procs with riposte

[autumn smelt]

i still see people on the forums whining and complaining that the fgs is just not good

and i really wonder if we're playing the same game

[autumn lark]

Those people should be shot

[sullen whale]

with scrier it deletes triple digit hordes lmoa

and DD

[autumn smelt]

the major issues the sword has stem not from the weapon but the class/talent tree

and the lack of melee sustain they have

you just simply arent allowed to fuck up or the game curbstomps you

[autumn lark]

You take this cute little talent called warp splitting to force cleave

[deft stump]

Is also slow on a paper class.

But funni.

[autumn smelt]

see thats the thing

psyker typically uses high mobility weapons to circumvent the fact that they have fuck all in terms of cushioning in melee

[deft stump]

You get bonked once and you go down.

More or less.

[autumn smelt]

the higher your mobility, the less likely you are to get hit

which getting hit is typically a death sentence

oops you got melee staggered once, die

[deft stump]

So is good, but way riskier than Obsc or Deimos.

[upper sun]

but gunner stagger is gone ::333333333333333333333

[autumn smelt]

shotgunner stagger isnt

[upper sun]

it fucking should be

[autumn smelt]

their pushback is

[deft stump]

Get blasted by shots.

[upper sun]

😠

[deft stump]

Bye bye toughness and then hp bar.

Since dodge on said big sword is also not exactly super.

[autumn smelt]

btw fgs range is stupid

[deft stump]

I know, the thrust hits things I thought were misses at times.

[wheat seal]

this one look's good

[sullen whale]

me when full re-run from 8 months ago

[deft stump]

If that's what you mean.

[wheat seal]

and this one?

[sullen whale]

blue instead of black which is way uglier

also a pysker krieg is a bit silly

[weary idol]

enough unreleased cosmetics to serve them for years and they still do re-runs

[deft stump]

It makes money though. If only GW notices.

[sullen whale]

especially during holidays, it's laughable. they rly dont want money ig

[weary idol]

also the worse recolor of the krieg cosmetics being the anniversary celebration

like jee thanks fatshark

[sullen whale]

unless it's calculated, release fugly stuff so noobs buy it out of impatience then release better ones they also end up buying after

hard to believe tho since most won't play longer than 2 weeks

altho playstation might if you catch my drift

look how fucking cool i could look if they'd let me just throw 20 bucks at them 😤

[weary idol]

hope you like cleaning nurgle gunk out of those white clothes

[sullen whale]

blood showing on clothes would be cool, it does on weapons

[weary idol]

I've only used for the drip for recolors and adding camo to stuff because the UI is utterly miserable

[cold geode]

It is horrid

[sullen whale]

I'm only previewing actual cosmetics, I don't use for the drip

[weary idol]

oh

well uh

[sullen whale]

Might use it to REMOVE camo

[weary idol]

hm

[sullen whale]

hate how camo is on so much for no reason, so ugly

on knives, really??

[cold geode]

I wish I could actually use it. But its so bad that I don't even want to bother trying to figure it out.

[weary idol]

I gave up on trying it after I spent like

40 minutes trying to make a look for my veteran, hit the save preset button because it did that bug where it locks your mouse to the center of your monitor

I relog and the preset didn't actually fucking save

[sullen whale]

man if they'd just let people buy what they want when they want i'd be happy just encountering more people who look like this. so many cosmetics and no one will ever see them 😔

hundreds of games and i can count the number of cool looking paid cosmetic people on just one hand

[weary idol]

I usually just buy a handful of the premium cosmetics if I buy them at all

takes forever for the shop to cycle so it's rare to see something I would even consider spending money on

[sullen whale]

Yep, or see something very cool but doesn't go with anything else so no point

2 weeks is insane for at best a couple of good items (or bad new recolors)

[weary idol]

I did get this very cool psyker coat when it came out like...a whole fuckin 'year ago though

looks very nice

pretty sure it hasn't returned

[sullen whale]

I'd imagine it hasn't reran

[weary idol]

Was very annoying to see it in the cash shop to begin with though because it was datamined as a penance cosmetic

pre-class rework its internal name referenced the then unreleased biomancer psyker

[deft stump]

If they were nice, they could have given it for free.

[weary idol]

yeah

"Happy Anniversary! Pay us please."

not even a free trinket to go along with it

[deft stump]

Or as an event reward.

Play the game during the anni week and get the sets for free.

Make it buyable after the period for late comers or something.

[deft stump]

You get one with a II on it.

[cosmic sigil]

It has, but with a different color

[weary idol]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1033034004288520254/1117316081426628649/IMG_0262.gif

[hearty wolf]

I want to fold the ears

I enjoy folding cat ears

They have a certain texture

Almost bat like

[deft stump]

Naw, that's just the soft fur. Some dogs have it as well.

[unborn isle]

what blessings/perks on inferno staff?

[strong gulch]

I have a black cat who I accuse of being a bat sometimes.

[quartz barn]

elite/crit | blaze away/warp nexus

[strong gulch]

flak + maniac or unyielding

blaze away + warp nexus

flak is important because most elite enemies have flak where the soulblaze dot damages them.

Also direct damage is much more meaningful with blazw away.

crit chance is useful is and universal, but with warp nexus purg/ inferno crits a lot already

so a direct damage offers more

[unborn isle]

alright

and the meele weapon should be duelling?

[strong gulch]

Whatever you want that handles crushers/ carapace.

[unborn isle]

what dump stat is it on duelling sword for example?

[strong gulch]

Dueling swords, force great swords, knife, etc

deimos too

obscurus is also an option

[strong gulch]

For DS dump cleave damage.

for force swords and force great swords dump warp resist

[unborn isle]

oh ok

thanks

[strong gulch]

for purg/ infero dump warp resist

[marble crater]

Is anyone here named Chevelle?

[hearty wolf]

No no, not the fur. It's the actual ear skin

Like even the way it looks

You can tell it's leathery

[hearty wolf]

Do you also nom the ears

[strong gulch]

and not floppy

[strong gulch]

no but I have the urge

Oh! I still have that easy havoc 40. IDK if true survivor happened yet.

[plucky flax]

2 more for twins hard mode? (APAC )

Come beans you know you want to.

[wheat seal]

best perks for curios?

[jovial juniper]

Toughness
HP
Gunner Resist
Sniper Resist

No particular order

[upper sun]

stop lying ive seen u play you can do it with bots

[plucky flax]

No it's impossible.

Come clad carry me.

I am lagging too.

[upper sun]

lemme run the game

any role you need?

[untold niche]

Any coop games that are mechanically challenging?

[upper sun]

life 🚬

[untold niche]

You haven't found a job yet?

[hearty wolf]

O I haven't played in awhile. No one invited me 😭

[hearty wolf]

Remnant from the Ashes/ Remnant 2?

It's not really mechanically challenging. Just roll lol, but it's dark souls esque

[untold niche]

I'm in holiday and really bored.
Also clad where my reply :pepesad:

[untold niche]

Yeah I tried it, it was fun in the beginning then it became alot more like a rpg

[upper sun]

no im not looking yet

[untold niche]

I want a game as hard as those pvp games but coop

[upper sun]

🤔

vt2

[plucky flax]

No just don't suck. We got 2 pugs from lfg tool and they die in under a minute.

[untold niche]

I tried vt2, I don't know if you remember. My problem with it is I can't play the class I want. And I don't think vt2 is that hard although I never really played ot.

[marble crater]

Elden Ring coop

[untold niche]

Hey agent when you start playing could you ping me and stream on YouTube or something

I wanna watch

[marble crater]

[untold niche]

If I got ER I would play it solo.
I mean like a game made for coop.

Like I feel ER coop just makes it easier in a way and also messier because aggro

[plucky flax]

Youtube recommendation?

[hearty wolf]

That do be remnant.

I'm just going off coop games in my most played section on steam but:

Monster Hunter World
Killing Floor 2 (especially if you do custom servers, that shit can get insane)

Dying light 2 (it's not hard per se but if you start on nightmare, you can make it really unbalanced - or at least, it used to be. There was an update that broke the game and made it harder than intended)

[plucky flax]

Outdoor boys

[marble crater]

He wants you to stream now

[untold niche]

I wanted to say twitch but you upload to YouTube so it might be easier to just stream on YouTube

[plucky flax]

No wtf I can't even play with this lag.

[marble crater]

[untold niche]

Kf2 got too repetitive for me.
I like it alot though. Waiting for 3 to drop

[untold niche]

Aren't you in SEA now, why are you lagging

Are you in Thailand? I can't remember

[plucky flax]

Because I have to use vpn to singapore to play.

Steam is blocked in vn

[untold niche]

Oh

Singapore Internet is fast tho

Vietnam

Damn

[plucky flax]

It's okay not that fast.

[untold niche]

I went to the chu chi tunnels. I forgot how to spell it.

Very cool

[plucky flax]

Not gigabit like at home for me.

[hearty wolf]

Hard and fun co-op games are a rarity tbh.

I can't think of any lmao.

[upper sun]

just hard then

[untold niche]

Ye just mechanically hard

[hearty wolf]

Even hard is a bit of a challenge

[untold niche]

Or in depth

[hearty wolf]

You have to play broken shit like 7 days to die

Good old Alpha 10 where physics didn't apply to enemies, but it definitely applied to you

[untold niche]

7 days to die feels more like a knowledge check game.

Hmm maybe no more room jn hell. I haven't tried the second one though but again I don't think it's mechanically hard, I tried the first one and I don't get how you are supposed to play

Like four people only someone gets a pistol with 7 bullets

Rest use melee

[hearty wolf]

It is a knowledge check of how much unavoidable bullshit you need to learn to avoid, that shouldn't be so hard to avoid

[untold niche]

30 zombies

[hearty wolf]

I've never heard of that :o

[untold niche]

7daystodie has that rpg book skill thing. Which one you invest in is very important and that's why I feel its a knowledge check.

[hearty wolf]

Why do games not have mechanics anymore

It's time to become Koreans

[marble crater]

How about that game where two players are connected with a chain and need to clear the mission?

[strong gulch]

Same but I've been awake for too long or asleep for too long. 😭

[untold niche]

Hey clad and sutvvoo have you tried no more room in he'll?

Hell

[stuck sinew]

Mechanics? You telling me a blip that gives you +5% damage isn't engaging enough???

[untold niche]

Is that called unchained or something where you need to climb up asset flip props

[marble crater]

No, I will play South Park later

[marble crater]

I don't know, I have only seen a few shorts of people crying

[untold niche]

Chained together

Something along those lines

And yeah it's called that I just googled

[jovial juniper]

Celeste

[untold niche]

Celeste isn't coop :v

[strong gulch]

mods

[stuck sinew]

Knuckles' Chaotix

[jovial juniper]

What's that one?
Uh
Spelunky?

[untold niche]

That's a 1995 game

I mean the knuckles

[boreal wave]

A zombie game where you run backwards faster than the zombies move forward.

It's easy just doing all melee runs

[untold niche]

Isn't that a single player game

[untold niche]

7daystodie or no more room in hell?

[zinc phoenix]

Lemmings is fun, play that

[boreal wave]

NMRIH, sorry

[stuck sinew]

7days Def has zombies that run

[untold niche]

I remember playing this game at the retail store lmao

[zinc phoenix]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemmings_(video_game)

[jovial juniper]

I mean
Spelunky 2 has multiplayer iirc

[untold niche]

Oh I did not kbow that.

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah it was a fun game 😂

[untold niche]

I tried it once with like a few online friends back when i was a kid and then I never touched it again lmao

[strong gulch]

@marble crater From baby psyker runs. "I totally didn't know trauma would blow up the burster."

[marble crater]

It's okay, you are only lvl 17, you couldn't have known

[zinc phoenix]

Elite psyker: I knew it would blow up the burster and that’s why I did it

NGL… sometimes I just want to fuck with my team 😂

[marble crater]

Same, I just want to activate barrels to see if people are paying attention

[untold niche]

I want a game where its genji execution but it's a team based coop game

[jovial juniper]

[marble crater]

Good luck, I think most coop games are not that mechanical intense, because it's coop

[jovial juniper]

League

Of

[untold niche]

That's pvp

[jovial juniper]

🤢

[stuck sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/the-grinch-evil-smile-creepy-smile-gif-7618321

[jovial juniper]

Hmmm
Maybe a musume game? Or whatever they are called

[hearty wolf]

I think it's more like, they don't exist because people suck

And you'd be appealing to a small market

[untold niche]

Like I feel those "hard game" with coop usually ruins it. E.g. monster hunter or ER because the game plays very different and not in a good way ( ad mentioned like the random aggro)

[hearty wolf]

Yeah MH coop is broken because the monsters can't even fucking stand up

[untold niche]

Either you learn how to manage aggro, but this would mean that the other person is just hitting buttons. Or you let fate do its job and then you have random aggro which isn't fun to play around

Like I'm bad at mh but it was worse playing with a friend lmao

[hearty wolf]

I dunno how I've managed with my best friend. We've played pretty much exclusively coop games the past 11 years and I'm not really sure how we've managed when the market isn't great for them

[jovial juniper]

*Musou

[untold niche]

Seems familiar but I need to Google it

Oh dynasty warriors

The one I bought only had jp translation ;-;
Online is sorta dead as well isn't it

But yeah I could prob look into how to actually play a dynasty warrior game

I know it's not:
At that time when I first tried it it just felt like kill enough people, build meter and spend meter to do cool thing

[hearty wolf]

Just gotta mod the game you want to play ig

Terraria modded or something

[strong gulch]

Hahahaha got em

[plucky flax]

Scoreboard still said I have top damage since rejoining. Must be pro.

[upper sun]

man

i was having audio problems too

[plucky flax]

I was lagging so much shotgunners just shoot right through me.

[deft stump]

I mean, that's my second hard mode game. I don't know anything just BAG into Rinda gud.

[deft stump]

This is me in EU btw. IDK, I am god till I blep.

You lag so hard, you can't hit but they can't hit you either.

Like being a ghost.

But once they actually hit you, you die.

[plucky flax]

Ye suddenly smashed by an overhead and died.

[deft stump]

Sometimes, you got smashed by something not even next to you on the screen.

Also, I missed my knoife.

Just swing wildly and ragers die.

[radiant frigate]

one might think you're talking about souls pvp with statements like that

[deft stump]

Wat?

[radiant frigate]

mostly this one

[deft stump]

Ah, that's just Peer2Peer lag, lul.

[upbeat kestrel]

delete dueling sword from zealot

it kills what this class is good at

hordeclear

[radiant frigate]

wha

zealot still has good horde clear with ds4

[strong gulch]

Imagine is that actually happened.

"dev note: Yeah we goofed. No more zealot dueling sword."

rioting

[plucky flax]

Give zealot psyker's big sword.

[upbeat kestrel]

then i have played with a atrocius zealot

[radiant frigate]

or wrong build

[upbeat kestrel]

possible

[radiant frigate]

but yeah you can get like 70% crit with it

[upbeat kestrel]

and a vet who of course run plasma shout ds4

[radiant frigate]

with yuge crit damage

[upbeat kestrel]

and me a psyker that tries the damnest to make the team survive

[radiant frigate]

and charge attack speed

[deft stump]

Mk3 knoife says hi.

[radiant frigate]

idk why people like knife (still)

[deft stump]

I like the 6 with lacerate.

[radiant frigate]

no control no range only zoon

zoom*

[deft stump]

IDK, I started with it lul.

Did stupid Martyrdom Zealot with knife and attacking so fast.

Press fury, ahahahahahahahaha spam.

[jovial juniper]

I would not compromise my knife with lacerate

[plucky flax]

Zealot purists won't touch ds4 (like me )

[deft stump]

See. this is why I said ppl hate lacerate.

[radiant frigate]

real zealot purists run twohanders only

(based)

[deft stump]

Why I ran Flesh Tearer.

[sullen whale]

Half of every psyker/zealot I see runs ds4

more for zealots

[radiant frigate]

cowardly choice

should use big sword

[sullen whale]

they only got 2 handed power sword tbf while we got moonlight

Evis is peak

[deft stump]

Psyker=I want to stroke my sword.

[radiant frigate]

evis also counts as a big sword

of sorts

[sullen whale]

0 draw time is epic for FGS

[radiant frigate]

plus you get to play as a diet repentia if you so choose

very based

[deft stump]

It is a big sword. I just hate how it clangs off Maulers if you fail at crits.

[sullen whale]

Finally a mission without one of the 3 "you're blind lol" modifiers

[radiant frigate]

press special to kill them in one hit

[deft stump]

I rather lights out than inf farts or SNIPERSNIPERSNIPER.

[deft stump]

Hard in a massive mixed horde.

[radiant frigate]

lights out in havoc is GUH

[sullen whale]

Everyone got tossed off a bridge by a surprise plogryn

[marble crater]

Lights out my beloved

[radiant frigate]

HATE

[deft stump]

It's technically the easiest of the three if you get specific maps.

The not mazes.

Like Dark Communion.

Just ledge bosses as well because zealots are funni.

Because fartfartfarts is painful, just like snipersnipersniper.

[radiant frigate]

pox gas is probably easily my least favorite modifier

[upper sun]

why do we have vent purge/lights out and no scab melee in normal auric rotation?

[radiant frigate]

more melee!

what if lights out scab melee..

[upper sun]

no

[radiant frigate]

worse, what if lights out dreg melee

[deft stump]

Krak, KRAK.

KRAK EVERYWHERE.

[sullen whale]

junk game had chaos spawn throw me and it tp'd me above map so i had to die in a pit

[radiant frigate]

one bazillion dreg ragers in the shadows

FEEL THE BLESSINGS

[deft stump]

6 frags later.

[sullen whale]

I have legit only been dying in the absolute dumbest ways doing auric damns

[radiant frigate]

gravity?

[deft stump]

You mean random poxwalker after big fight?

[sullen whale]

shove immune bursters, ledges, out of map chaos spawn throw

[upper sun]

MARTYR SKULL NEARBY

[radiant frigate]

barrels?

poxbursters?

trappers?

both at once?

[deft stump]

DODGING off the map?

[radiant frigate]

your honor, my client pleads "oopsie daisy"

[deft stump]

I know, cos I used to do that, lul.

[zinc phoenix]

You spam the buttons and receive funions of power

Dynasty warriors is a simple game for simple men who summon rainstorms with their magic

What of it

[upbeat kestrel]

BB is trash - ,,zealot,,

[slim acorn]

Oh so I’m not the only one that has been getting fucky busters

Last few days have had bursters that have gotten back up and tried again at least 3 times after getting shoved

My ogryn teammate was flabbergasted

[upper sun]

high everything low warp res

assail

nothing is as good as assail for low levels

pretty much unless you see a boss or an ogryn enemy

assail doesnt do much for bosses ogryns and maulers

everything is viable except like shredder pistol

just keep levelling and see what weapons/abilities you like then you can build around them

[silver mantle]

Shredder works on vet as a nonlethal taser and thats it

Source-mastery 20d it with no sacrifices

[late yew]

Which great forcesword is better?

[sullen whale]

It's preference like combat knives tbh. Just find which feels better for you.

I'm using mk8, it's definitely easier since horde clear is just light spam and if you want to hurt something you can push attack heavy poke

usually one shots mutants and other elites

[tulip kettle]

i wish they gave one of the FGS the same moveset as the MK2 relic blade

that blade feels so badass to use because of the moveset

[sullen whale]

Do you mean how FGS is weightless due to psyker powers compared to feeling weighty?

[tulip kettle]

and it ACTUALLY stabs when you charge sprint

[sullen whale]

That is true

very unfort

[tulip kettle]

no i mean the move set on MK2 relic blade is complex but perfect, and it would suit the MK8 FGS perfectly

leave the MK6 as it is for ez braindead elites killing

[sullen whale]

mk8 can be braindead since push attack knocks em to the ground for the stab to kill em

[tulip kettle]

it is braindead also

[sullen whale]

I prefer the simple mk8

[tulip kettle]

thats why i dont like it

they are both braindead for what they do

[upbeat kestrel]

mk6 fgs ftw

[sullen whale]

Well dw, obscurus is op too now

it's all braindead

[tulip kettle]

the move set on MK2 relic is literally OP for both elites and horde clearing

but i only see people using the other one and spamming lights

[sullen whale]

Yeah relic blade goes a bit too hard

[tulip kettle]

havent seen anyone use MK2 and i guess its just because the move set is garbage without the right combos

and i want a FGS like that

plus the animations are sick, the crosshand block is awesome and the stab attack from sprinting is likje made for the MK8 FGS

[patent mango]

let slide heavy be stab on both fgs

it'd look so cool

[upbeat kestrel]

gunpsyker is fun

[gloomy magnet]

always has been

[upbeat kestrel]

but i prefer by sword sc build

[haughty star]

Sc?

[gloomy magnet]

super crunch

[indigo thunder]

I haven't played since end September. Have psyker builds changed?

[haughty star]

I've been doing columnus on my gun psukwr since I don't use the gun alot and that bitch straight up executes bosses lol

[gloomy magnet]

relic big sword yea

[upbeat kestrel]

scriers gaze

i meant sg

[upbeat kestrel]

try other ifantry autoguns

and recon lasgun

[haughty star]

I normally use recon and I've tried the other iags. None of em execute bosses like the good ol columnus (vraks 5)

[upbeat kestrel]

it has smg handling

[ornate hamlet]

does souldrinker proc whenever you kill an enemy that has warp fire on them? not when u kill an enemy with warp fire right?

also what does this icon mean?

[prime elk]

oh man i tried mk2 and it just felt so awkward

mk x is awkward too, but it has a very strong horde clear combo

[indigo thunder]

How're new twohanded swords?

[patent mango]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/721520171365171284/1311019478313861191/caption.gif

[indigo thunder]

Oh shit, it sends a forcewave?

[patent mango]

propaganda

[indigo thunder]

I can't understand from your vid if it's good or not

[patent mango]

its really strong

[quartz barn]

bulwark kinda ruins the clip

[patent mango]

bulwarks :(

[silver mantle]

It does work, but is sorta slow

[indigo thunder]

Which mark is better?

[silver mantle]

Movement wise

[patent mango]

idk

preference really

[hearty wolf]

Too hotly contested for there to be a proper answer

(Mk6 is better)

[patent mango]

maybe i should get some more funny clips later

[mossy oyster]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/jkFrtspn8jGwYrNP8?invite=cr-MSx2RzIsMzAyNTAyNTYyLA

they're aight

[indigo thunder]

double barreled shotgun? tf?

[deft stump]

6 for bonking anything bigger than walkers. 8 for hordes.

[patent mango]

god i wish this game had a style counter mod

[mossy oyster]

everyone would have Fs

[patent mango]

lol

[mossy oyster]

or to be technically correct in DMCs case

everyone would have Ds

[ornate hamlet]

does anyone know what this icon means?

[mossy oyster]

thats (the crystalline will icon in talents) outside of that im 99% sure its a placeholder for new current talents they added

because I turned on permanently show Warp Splitting in my buffs hud mod

and that same icon pops up

so

[mossy oyster]

ye

[ornate hamlet]

thanks for the answer

[thorn cedar]

its for By Crack of Bone

even though its the Crystalline Will image

[haughty star]

[thorn cedar]

so that's the reduced peril gen effect

[patent mango]

ohh

silly icon

[ornate hamlet]

oh that makes a lot more sense now. thank you

[nocturne dust]

Just Fatshark Things

[ornate hamlet]

average evil psyker activities

[prime elk]

who needs enemies with teammates like these

[marble crater]

blocked

[median sorrel]

slaps hood of psyker
this mutant can fit so many voices inside of it

[median sorrel]

please good sir, perchance could you or someone tell me
is this what the force greatswords are actually like or is this modded perchance

because thats cool as hell

[patent mango]

its real

[mellow gorge]

Nah they built like that

[median sorrel]

making a psyker asap

[prime elk]

fgs are made up

just like birds

[median sorrel]

they took everything away from me

[patent mango]

fgs unironically biggest reason to play psyker

[median sorrel]

i dont usually follow builds to the letter but is there a specific way to play with one to make the most of it

[mellow gorge]

It's just pure fun

[median sorrel]

because i could get into that

[strong gulch]

#psyker-class message

[haughty star]

Just your usual right side nonsense

Gunker/meleeker/assailker

[prime elk]

sorry, right side is based

[hearty wolf]

Wait we have a 4-4 split

Well

MK6 is winning technically cos I didn't react

[haughty star]

I like 8 because the attack speed is faster and it's better at clearing trash so you can spam heavies

[prime elk]

8 has a much better horde/mixed horde combo

6 has a slightly better single target combo

[deft stump]

But I'm lazy. And mk6 is still better due to funny bonk bosses things.

[ornate hamlet]

interesting... interesting

thank you

[haughty star]

This is not "meta" but works really well with any melee weapon (preferably with horde clear) I use this with a mk8 fgs or illisi with wrath and shred and slaughterer shred respectively. Gun can be heavy las recon las with dum dum and inferno or recently I've been using vraks mkv with dum dum and the backstab blessing. Basically the point is to stay in scriers gaze and almost never have to blitz. Loads of TDR so it's super forgiving and has most of the necessary grabs

[prime elk]

embrace full right side

none of this dilly dallying, fence-humping, left and right side bullshittery

[patent jacinth]

No?

[haughty star]

Assail weaving just feels like dog shit with scriers. I'd much rather just stay in scriers than force it off lol

[upper sun]

nah

[haughty star]

Not necessary

[upper sun]

it doesnt give you anything at max stacks

[patent jacinth]

Gonna hit you with something

[haughty star]

Stacks are easy as fuck to get these days

[prime elk]

i don't assail weave, i special weave

[haughty star]

Its not sustainable

[mellow gorge]

Is it a force greatsword?

[haughty star]

But to each their own. I just like the above build cuz i can pretty much always be in scriers or its effects

[lucid pilot]

Welcome sibling

[mellow gorge]

I don't assail weave bc it feels bad vs just swinging at stuff.

[haughty star]

And the tdr is crazy. First time I got whacked by a bruiser and didn't lose all my toughness or take chip I literally almost busted

[nocturne dust]

skill issue

[mellow gorge]

It's not like it's hard, but moon light greatswording is more fun

[haughty star]

Not really? Just choosing not to force scriers to end early lol

[nocturne dust]

That's what always happens the first time

[haughty star]

I see someone's in a mood today lol

[nocturne dust]

Well then don't use assail when it would result in that

It's not like assail makes scrier's end early

[haughty star]

It uhh

[strong gulch]

No. I will warp unbound bug myself.

[haughty star]

It literally does lol

[nocturne dust]

It literally doesn't, just use it before reaching high peril and then quell

e z

[haughty star]

Dogshit compared to just swinging the sword lol

[patent mango]

this dude quelling in scriers

[haughty star]

So much time wasted

[nocturne dust]

Yes

[haughty star]

Thats what bcob for

[nocturne dust]

I ran out of enemies because I played gunker properly

so now I quell

[nocturne dust]

[nocturne dust]

[haughty star]

Shut up. You don't even like gunker lmfao or assail for that matter. Literally just being facetious to be facetious lol

[nocturne dust]

I don't like gunker as much as staffker, numbskull

[haughty star]

[patent mango]

bolter psyker

[nocturne dust]

Is illegal

[prime elk]

warp-enhanced bolter

[haughty star]

I wanna say that would be good but in reality it would probably be comparatively bad

Force bolter when

[nocturne dust]

Yes, yes, you can't argue so you devolve into attacking people.

[nocturne dust]

Warp Bolter is like regular boltor, but has a force push

[prime elk]

you shut your mouth

[haughty star]

I never attacked you? You called me names first my guy. Quit tryna pick fights lol it's a known fact you do not like gunker or assail yet here you are lol

[nocturne dust]

You know it to be true

[prime elk]

warp bolter will fire warp enhanced rounds like warp slice

with infinite cleave

and enhanced reload speed / gun handling

because warp fuckery

[haughty star]

And infinite ammo

[nocturne dust]

Well, you're attacking me literally right now, my guy

[jovial juniper]

A psycannon

🤓

[prime elk]

if they can do that to the greatswords, they can apply the same logic to force/warp bolter

[nocturne dust]

You're attacking my reasons for arguing instead of the argument

cuz you can't argue

[haughty star]

Petty af man

[strange jewel]

Yeah lmao

[nocturne dust]

See

[haughty star]

Idk what to tell ya. I don't like your stupid arguing is all

[nocturne dust]

more attack, lmao

[haughty star]

Cry about it

[nocturne dust]

Laughing about it, actually

[haughty star]

Said everyone malding ever

[upper sun]

218/250

kill me 😭

[stuck sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/komunikasi-gif-9341732642563009114

[nocturne dust]

True, I'm actually so malding and seething right now that I'm rolling on the floor laughing... see what you want to see

[haughty star]

Anywho, yeah if you haven't tried KF gunker it's fun as hell. Being in scriers or its effefts all the time is bonkers

[haughty star]

https://tenor.com/view/fd-gif-25482735

[median sorrel]

thankyou sibling

i used tracing paper to copy this post

the pen went through the paper and damaged my monitor but i have it now at least

[haughty star]

Idk why but this reminds me of my console days when I would use a dry erase to make a hip shot dot

[upper sun]

235/250.....

i am dying....

one more vet game bros....

[obsidian thistle]

When Souldrinker says "killing enemies with soulblaze" do they mean killing enemies AFFECTED by soulblaze or enemies killed BY the soulblaze damage ticks

[nocturne dust]

Yes, but no

Fatshark programming

[obsidian thistle]

PLEEZE

Teh tooltip is fucking useless

and i can't test it in the meatgrinder properly

[strong gulch]

#psyker-class message

[obsidian thistle]

same with the disrupt destiny perks

[nocturne dust]

It works on Soulblaze kills, but also deaths from targets with soulblaze sometimes

[obsidian thistle]

G U H

[nocturne dust]

Souldrinker is bad anyway tho

It's not meta in any build

[strong gulch]

What did they mean?? idk

What does it do. That chat link has the answer.

[obsidian thistle]

Well since its intended to only trigger when soulblaze gets the kill I'm not gonna take it cause soulblaze does tickle damage

[nocturne dust]

Intended is a strong word

[strong gulch]

Especially considering how In Fire Reborns works.

[obsidian thistle]

Well according to the linked post it only gives you the buff when you kill a burning enemy cause the serverside game ticks have an overlap and decide to randomly give it to you

not worf a whole perk point

[nocturne dust]

(nobody has tested that)

[obsidian thistle]

Also on the Disrupt destiny perks

[nocturne dust]

(everybody is too lazy to test that In Fire Reborn is different from souldrinker or not)

[obsidian thistle]

When it says "extends the duration of disrupt destiny" does it mean the Mark on the enemies or the Precision buff on you

Cause there is not "disrupt destiny"

There's "Marked" and "Precision"

Tooltip fail strikes again

[nocturne dust]

Precision buff is DD

[obsidian thistle]

Ok that was my assumption but the flip flopping on the wording made me doubt myself

[nocturne dust]

The mark is eternal

(well not really)

[obsidian thistle]

It lasts so long that it even lingers on dead enemies 😂

And won't fucking pick a new target

Well I only really get big stacks during a horde wave so I may as well take perfectionism, outside of hords I just use DD to have free wallhacks on gunners

[haughty star]

Guhwut

[obsidian thistle]

wut

[haughty star]

Soulblaze does a ton of damage when applied properly lol

[upbeat kestrel]

SG with vraks mk5 and speed buffs feels like playing cod

Especially on lower diffs

[obsidian thistle]

Yeah but does it do enough damage that it'll reliably get kills when you're sweeping hordes?

[nocturne dust]

Not without a soulblaze build

[obsidian thistle]

Have a hard enough time with getting my DD marks with allies sniping them (unknowingly)

[haughty star]

You shouldn't. DD is hilariously easy to keep up rn

[nocturne dust]

(it isn't)

[haughty star]

Almost Noone thinks that but you

[nocturne dust]

And nobody thinks your opinion but you

[marble crater]

Why don't you two just get a room already?

[haughty star]

The hud is bugged rn too so keep that in mind that it doesn't honestly show your stacks

[obsidian thistle]

I don't even bother trying to keep track of my DD stacks they come and go so quickly I just like it for the highlighting while I play gunpsyker (magical vet)

[haughty star]

Idk i think he just wants attention or something lol

[obsidian thistle]

oh thats cool

[nocturne dust]

I just want you to be correct once in your life, Baz

[haughty star]

Yeah it's pretty reliably easy to keep them up (to most people) lol

[stuck sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-one-at-a-time-ladies-aaron-if-he-was-a-cat-funny-cat-gif-565648516443483223

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, but people also said mettle was easy to keep up

and then I tested it

[haughty star]

[nocturne dust]

I actually pay attention to the buff bar, and uptimes 😔

[haughty star]

[nocturne dust]

I'm just a big nerd I guess 🤓

[haughty star]

[obsidian thistle]

Warp damage buffs should affect soulblaze right

[nocturne dust]

Plz, Baz, I don't need or care about your reactions. Plz stop spamming the chat.

[haughty star]

Yes

[nocturne dust]

They do, yes

[obsidian thistle]

I'm just mucking aroudn in the talents doing some weird BFGS and vigilant semi-auto build using scryers just cause it feels gucci

[nocturne dust]

Vigilant is a pretty weird choice for gunker

[haughty star]

Try the vraks mkv or the recon if you haven't yet. They proc mettle and ee really reliably

[obsidian thistle]

I just like the mid-long range headshot pops I figure its not the best choice but it just feels good

[late cypress]

Hey so I finally got around to working on the blaze greatsword a try

What does Warp Slice do and what blessings do y'all recommend

[nocturne dust]

The blessing or the ranged attack on the FGS?

[late cypress]

The blessing

[nocturne dust]

Nothing much

[haughty star]

Basically whatever you want depending on what you wanna do with it

Most recommend wrath plus some means of damage

[late cypress]

Well I'm finding it really great for crowds

[nocturne dust]

it's a pretty bad blessing. It only improves the damage of the ranged special on the FGS by making it a crit, but also that's kinda meaningless and doesn't change the BPs for the slice

[upbeat kestrel]

Try revolver or bistol.

[late cypress]

Wrath and I was looking at Momentum honestly

[haughty star]

Momentum is fine if you want the extra help

[obsidian thistle]

But I like the rifle

[late cypress]

What do y'all recommend?

Riposte was also catching my eye

[haughty star]

I run wrath riposte

[obsidian thistle]

Bang bang headshots

Mlg

[nocturne dust]

I would recommend Wrath and shred or unstable power

[upbeat kestrel]

I mean its just one of the worse weapons in game. I like the burst rifles but they are not good compared to yhe rest

[late sapphire]

buff bar? just stick it in the middle

[nocturne dust]

Riposte is fine and between it and shred is a matter of preference. Shred is more consistent if you don't miss.

[obsidian thistle]

I figured they weren't good compared to the more rapid fire rifles & pistols but damn the worst?

They're so satisfying to fire

[haughty star]

I just like riposte cuz there's no spool up

Just dodge once and boom

[nocturne dust]

Gunker really likes rapid fire, it's the meta for Gunker

[late sapphire]

shredder autopistol is worst

[upbeat kestrel]

Youre literally better of with laspistol

[late sapphire]

just because its a dogshit gun

[strong gulch]

I am liking unstable + crit chance blessing for right side of tree (assuming warp splitting), and wrath + crit chance for other builds. (non-havoc)

[nocturne dust]

but yes, shredder is the worst

[late sapphire]

vigilant autogun and infantry las gun are second worst i think

[obsidian thistle]

Well its less gunker and more swordker with a gun for headshotting gunners

[radiant frigate]

never has there been a sadder autopistol

[nocturne dust]

also Laspistol is good but also we kinda use it as rapidfire and you may want a mod to not break your fingers

[late sapphire]

shredder used to be good

[radiant frigate]

SWORD WIZARD WOOO

[haughty star]

Yes but we're telling you you still want autogun

[nocturne dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1321371717599367198/Greatsword_Elmo.gif

[haughty star]

If you want dead accurate go recon 12

[late sapphire]

for shooting gunners laspistol is peak

[haughty star]

Or laspistol ya

[late sapphire]

good mobility for use with slow swords too

and with slow swords i mean FGS BAYBEY

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1311009529894539324/unnamed.gif

[nocturne dust]

You can also dump into bosses with recon or iag

[obsidian thistle]

I will take the meta into consideration and continue to use the autogun cause its SATISFYING to go BANG BANG BANG HEADSHOT HEADSHOT HEADSHOT

[radiant frigate]

laspistol or reconlas are peak for sword wizard

[late sapphire]

the double barrel is also fun

[nocturne dust]

The peak is Vraks

[radiant frigate]

agripinaa iag?

[haughty star]

Vraks is just nutty for bosses

[nocturne dust]

Run from it, flee from it, Vraks still arrives all the same

[radiant frigate]

or a headhunter

[haughty star]

For everything else I'd prefer recon

[obsidian thistle]

Graia mkVII

[radiant frigate]

but will vraks kill bonbon from the front

[nocturne dust]

Eh, I have no issue with the recoil so I can use it better than recon on specials/elites

[radiant frigate]

graia is just a low ammo vraks

[nocturne dust]

Better than anything else on Psyker

[obsidian thistle]

I'm gonna bully fatshark into buffing my fave gun

[radiant frigate]

but vhat about mein dumdum infernus...

[nocturne dust]

Is dum

[radiant frigate]

NEIN 😭

[nocturne dust]

It turns out, you don't need DoTs

[upbeat kestrel]

Yes swordker is the best

[nocturne dust]

You just need more damage

[upbeat kestrel]

Correct

[radiant frigate]

but vhat about mein ammo efficiency

[obsidian thistle]

I am testing all these guns in the meatgrinder and am greatly dismayed by how undenyably better all these guns are but none of them feel as satisfying as the pop-pop-pop of the Graia 7

[nocturne dust]

I mean, if we're not on Havoc it's a non-issue

[radiant frigate]

or damage per time spent if i just use short bursts

like apply burn go melee

[nocturne dust]

If we are on Havoc, at least have the decency to take a staff to spare the blunts from no ammo 😭

[radiant frigate]

if we are on havoc i will suffer regardless

[upbeat kestrel]

Who needs that

[haughty star]

I use the dot on recon alot personally and the reliable recoil is peak for massive groups of gunners and proccing ee

[obsidian thistle]

I am very good at ammo conservation

I've only run out of ammo a couple of times on Auric 5

[radiant frigate]

i do because i hate having to pick up ammo

[haughty star]

Like with shooters as soon as I see orange I switch cuz by the time they ready to shoot at me they usually die from burn

[nocturne dust]

Probably still worse honestly

Vraks just has that much DPS

In the time Recon applies burn, Vraks kills

[patent mango]

in the time recon burns vraks misses at least 20 shots

[nocturne dust]

if, y'know, you can handle the recoil

[nocturne dust]

That's why I never miss by running up and dumping point-blank

[patent mango]

sword

[upbeat kestrel]

Use a staff then

[haughty star]

Kinda defeats th3 point of a gun at that point lol

[nocturne dust]

counterpoint: gun

[patent mango]

is it a gun that happens to be a sword

[obsidian thistle]

What if I always get headshots with Gaia7 with deadly accurate & headhunter & ranged crit damage and crit strike chance 🙃

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/phoenix-wright-ace-attorney-capcom-gun-no-u-gif-20820699

[obsidian thistle]

Always crit with bonus damage on head

[nocturne dust]

ranged crit damage
💀

never do that

[obsidian thistle]

oh

ok

[nocturne dust]

crit damage bad

[obsidian thistle]

[nocturne dust]

like real bad

cuz it doesn't affect the total damage of a crit

only the extra damage from a crit

[haughty star]

Yeah isn't it just additive

[obsidian thistle]

Oh

[nocturne dust]

additive doesn't make sense in this context

[obsidian thistle]

thats lame

[nocturne dust]

It's just a percentage of the extra damage from a crit, and not a percentage of the total damage of a crit

which is bad

Stupid Fatshark

can't even do math right

[obsidian thistle]

Excuuuuuuse me for trusting fatshark's game mechanics to be intuitive

[nocturne dust]

Never

Ammunition and crits being anywhere close to how gaming in general does them is a miracle

[patent mango]

fatshark is anomalous

[obsidian thistle]

What does "Salvo's first shot" mean

Just first shot after not firing for a while?

[upper sun]

your first shot in a stream

yeah

[obsidian thistle]

ty

"Critical weakspot damage" means crits on a weakspot right?

I know we just said crit damage up is bad cause it only affects the bonus damage but

Surely a 100% boost is good????

[upper sun]

yeah

[upper sun]

are you talking about deadly accurate

[obsidian thistle]

yes

[upper sun]

its not bad if you pair it with surgical

[obsidian thistle]

yeah

[haughty star]

The only issue with running those is there's just not alot of syncrocity with psyker

[obsidian thistle]

Psyker gets lotsa crits tho

If you spec into it

[haughty star]

Yeah but all of its crit talents benefit from many crits in a short time period lol

[obsidian thistle]

I'm just mlg accurate with my hedshots ok 😎

[haughty star]

Like recon 12 for example crits so often I'm pretty sure it infinitely stacks EE until mag is gone

Same with vraks if you don't mind the horse kick or the recon 6

Or autopistol

[obsidian thistle]

[haughty star]

We don't use this stuff cuz it's meta we use it cuz it's what works lol

[obsidian thistle]

Well my stinky low ammo pop-gun works pretty good for me

[patent mango]

bistol

[wheat seal]

what you guys think of these build https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3289392945 ?

[obsidian thistle]

Mayb I'm just built different

[patent mango]

can they make shredder autopistol good pls

[haughty star]

Its not that you're better or worse or anything lol. It's that the gun is physically incapable of performing as well as any of the aforementioned on psyker lol

[haughty star]

Both trash, bottom is less trash

[radiant frigate]

trash boss damage and zero mobility

different purposes different builds

[obsidian thistle]

Yeah but thats kinda true for every class because they're just better guns right? I just wanna use the gun I'm using cause it feels super satisfying to one-shot-one-kill every enemy

[jovial juniper]

We don't really take Purloin

[radiant frigate]

it may not be the best gun but it still kills people

[patent mango]

purloin is a meme talent

[haughty star]

Vet makes better use of the single hit large damage weps

Than soyker anyway

[wheat seal]

look's like most of build in internet are shit for discord community xd

[jovial juniper]

Also Brain Burst gunker but not Flayer

[hearty wolf]

I didn't realise it was that dogshit

wut

What is base crit multiplier then

or does it depend on wep

25%?

[haughty star]

And expenditure plus no pc

[obsidian thistle]

true but vet still performs better with rapid fire high DPS weapons even then, like why take single shot las when you could go crit recon for infinite BRRRRT and clear whole maps by holding down leftclick

[patent mango]

BRRRRRRRRT i need ammo!

[haughty star]

Because it's the class to use that junk with

[obsidian thistle]

Why you take the shock trooper perk that makes you not spend ammo when you crit with las

[haughty star]

Soyker is for autoguns and funni laspistols

[late sapphire]

depends on weapon

[wind spruce]

There's also a bunch of misinfo in the descriptions

[nocturne dust]

depends on wep

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/true-feeling-gif-3513841483786200278

[late sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1291682463512268821.gif

[nocturne dust]

He pinged me, only thing I read

[analog agate]

Because most of the internet community doesn’t know the obscure mechanics and breakpoints of the game. Not their fault. But people in this community have and the info has been disseminated here

[wind spruce]

Imagine getting info wrong about three talents in a row

[thorn cedar]

the DD part is true

but it does leap to an unrelated conclusion

[haughty star]

Its so bad lol

[wind spruce]

No, it's not.

[magic cipher]

What's the dump stat on a voidstrike staff?

[nocturne dust]

I mean, the Creeping Flames description isn't that bad

[analog agate]

Blast radius

[thorn cedar]

'tis

[nocturne dust]

blast that radius

[magic cipher]

Ty 👍

[thorn cedar]

exactly when or why it rewards a stack refresh, i have no goddamn idea

[weary crane]

Does empyric shock not show on talents? It works well for surge spam right?

[thorn cedar]

but ive got enough footage of me not scoring a kill but still seeing a DD buff to know that it exists in some capacity

[haughty star]

We don't talk about this here

[wind spruce]

Except that it's not. Because whats actually happening is that sometimes the soulblaze damage occurs on the same server tick as the kill, and credits you the kill.

Emphasis on sometimes.

[nocturne dust]

wdym

Empyric shock is a debuff

[nocturne dust]

It does work well for lmb spam

[weary crane]

so it's effective for this?

[median sorrel]

anyone else stroke their force sword just a little

[nocturne dust]

si

[nocturne dust]

No

I stroke it a lot

[median sorrel]

[haughty star]

I only stroke mine when it's fully primed up

[median sorrel]

an expert i see

[haughty star]

(And than get smacked by a poxwalker and lose it all)

[thorn cedar]

That can't be exactly right, because if I'm running Slaughterer on a weapon (as an example), I'll get the DD buff but won't earn a Slaught stack

IDK about with Soulblaze tbh because that's way too much visual noise and randomness to be totally sure.

[nocturne dust]

does slaughterer care about melee kills specifically?

[thorn cedar]

But I have slapped a mfer with my Deimos and gotten no Slaught stack, nor toughness earned, or any other on-kill effect, but still gotten a DD refresh

[nocturne dust]

Maybe you're just bugged

[wind spruce]

DD refreshes occur on all damage to blue targets

[summer prairie]

Not sure what is being discussed but DD has a 1s grace period or something

in addition to the refresh

[thorn cedar]

yea like it exists

[summer prairie]

haven't tested it, just recall seeing it

[thorn cedar]

the guy just doesnt totally understand where it comes from

because honestly

none of us do either lmfao

weve just seen it, we know it's real

[nocturne dust]

I don't think there's a person on the planet who actually understands Darktide

[thorn cedar]

sometimes i earn the DD, sometimes i dont

[nocturne dust]

Are you using the mod to fix buff bar?

[wind spruce]

Bc of the server ticks

[marble crater]

I do. Kill heretics, win. Simple as.

[wind spruce]

It's the same with souldrinker

[nocturne dust]

Someone should really test In Fire Reborn

but that would be a pain

[wind spruce]

Test it in what regard

[nocturne dust]

In if it procs like souldrinker

[summer prairie]

or was it the FGS essence gain, might have confused it with that since I was looking at that code more recently

[nocturne dust]

because it apparently has the same code

[wind spruce]

FGS essence is gained from any enemy that you damaged within the last 1s with your sword

[weary crane]

Is uh, warp slice any good?

[summer prairie]

yes

[nocturne dust]

If I had a dev environment I could probably just set a breakpoint 😭

[nocturne dust]

The attack, yes. The blessing, no.

[summer prairie]

not yes to the blessing question

[wind spruce]

I know that it procs from other players killing your soulblazed targets

And it procs at approximately the rate it should (10%)

[nocturne dust]

[radiant frigate]

i'm going to perils irl

[wind spruce]

I have videos somewhere of me and an army of bots in the psykhanium