psyker-class

[marble crater]

Staff is Nexus and Flurry
Sword is wrath + shred/riposte/deflector/momentum if you are not amazing in melee yet

[sullen whale]

Man I'd recommend Surge + Nexus cuz LMB go crazy on electro (with a mouse)

[plucky flax]

Wot

It's veri cool.

[vernal temple]

every gyker I've ever seen only used the recon lasgun

[plucky flax]

They are not me.

[native juniper]

Recon lasgun is ass

I hate it

Lobotomy gun

[strong gulch]

It's not ass but I support you hating it.

[compact cargo]

It's great for veterans

Not that bad for gunker

But there's a better option

[strong gulch]

Yeah. It's pretty good on psyker.

[native juniper]

Its ass cause its braindead

[plucky flax]

It shoots fast.

Brrrrzzz.

[late sapphire]

this sucks

[native juniper]

what the fuck

i have 4 mastery points

but everything is max?

[vernal temple]

yeah, the EK staff has 4 extra mastery points

[native juniper]

oh

[vernal temple]

because "fuck you, now you gonna have this Mastery notification until we fix it"

Veterans have 1 (ONE) mastery point for plasma gun that can't be used on anything

psyker has 4 on EK staff

iirc Ogryn is the only one who has no loose mastery points

[plucky flax]

It's secret OP blessing.

Only top 1% can access it.

[compact cargo]

Double lighting blessing

We miss you

Come back!

[plucky flax]

[vernal temple]

so if I complete havoc 40 every week I'll get this amount of stuff every time, right?

[clear heath]

Sometimes it's funny going through scriers footage and seeing how many buffs I end up with

[strong gulch]

yes

[strong gulch]

I'd drop the DD icon too if I had to keep track of all that.

[vernal temple]

I like how there's a bazillion buffs and among them casually sits Crystalline Will

[clear heath]

wait what even is that?

i don't have crystalline will

[vernal temple]

the one where you pop but don't go down

[clear heath]

I don't even understand how that could be a buff

no but like i don't take that talent

[vernal temple]

but somehow you have the icon of it lol

[clear heath]

OH

it's crack of bone

crack of bone uses the wrong icon lmao

[vernal temple]

lmao

[marble crater]

[strong gulch]

Thank you for solving a mystery. I'd see that from time to time and not understand what was happening.

[native juniper]

these good perks?

electro staff

[wind spruce]

It's too bad you can't showcase it

[strong gulch]

Flak is the anchor perk. You'd be better served by maniac or unyielding instead of crit chance.

Crit chance isn't bad but the 25% increase in damage offers more.

[marble crater]

I also enjoyed flak + elites for a time

[clear heath]

I used to run flak elites until havoc

started taking too long to kill specials so i switched to maniac

[marble crater]

Maniac + specials

[summer prairie]

buffing your SB damage in havoc also makes sense

[plucky flax]

Why do I always have higher damage than the burga guy as rending trauma? Xd

[summer prairie]

flurry does some work

[plucky flax]

Aye but blaze away is still op.

[cosmic sigil]

You could report it

[strong gulch]

A lot of the time same. Maybe trauma just kills a lot of things before burga can do all of it's cooking. Kill stealing.

Idk you you have shriek or not.

[plucky flax]

Me blasting horde instead of elites to kill steal

[marble crater]

You also had more damage than me the other day

[plucky flax]

Nah both bubbles.

For safety. I am just pugging with lfg tool.

So I just want to win for assists.

[strong gulch]

Then no SB theft and blaze away gatekeeping.

[plucky flax]

The lvl 26 guy was on burga so I had to switch.

[summer prairie]

I wonder if rending flurry shriek is higher dps than blazing nexus in havoc, you get SB stacks up anyway

[plucky flax]

Yeah but you are just bad.

[plucky flax]

If you want dps might as well go flurry nexus.

[summer prairie]

true

[marble crater]

[summer prairie]

rending isn't bad though

[plucky flax]

But it's about team support.

Look at me I bubble and rend.

Support player.

[clear heath]

rending not selfish enough

[strong gulch]

Rending trauma + pen flames purg has been interesting.

[clear heath]

gotta greed for scoreboard

can't be greedy for scoreboard numbers if you're buffing your teammate's damage

[summer prairie]

bubble is too boring now that people know how to play havoc a bit

[plucky flax]

60% brittleness?

[marble crater]

How to turn carapace into paper

[plucky flax]

Bubble is boring but pugs still expect it.

And it's still safer to win with it.

[clear heath]

Does it even stack like that or do they hit stack caps?

[plucky flax]

Playing with random using ping communication and >yes >no

[plucky flax]

I don't know I'm wondering too. But even stil pen flame is so bad just go nexus for damage and let the rending trauma guy be support.

[summer prairie]

penetrating flames should stack with other sources of rending

[clear heath]

but would it share stack caps like dots do?

[strong gulch]

Pen flames does stack on top.

[summer prairie]

it's a different debuff

[clear heath]

cause debuff indicator just considers them the same debuff i think

[strong gulch]

And yeah 60% iirc.

[plucky flax]

Woah the vet was actually 2nd damage. I thought it would be the burga guy.

Man was eating ammo.

[marble crater]

Rending trauma, zealot flamer with pen flame and then blaze away nexus purgatus psyker

[clear heath]

yeah he better if he's grabbing 30 ammo pickups

[summer prairie]

purg had higher ranged than sb damage even though no one else really had warpfire

[plucky flax]

Yet I killed 150 smol shooters to his 29. He did get all the specials though so good vet.

Cos rending trauma so bad at it. Xd

[strong gulch]

Direct damage purg and a good bit of melee.

[clear heath]

brain burst maybe?

[strong gulch]

Oh yeah maybe.

[summer prairie]

probably, no way you do that low damage in general with purg otherwise

the vet rending on crit debuff should also stack with burn rending and other sources

[strong gulch]

Deadvoid has explained it before and I forgot.

Something something pen flames stack on top and ignores some cap. IDK which one.

[summer prairie]

there are three different caps

[plucky flax]

Oh the vet had shattering impact too + my rending.

So yeah crushers were melting.

[summer prairie]

and the multipliers are additive, so 40+20+20

[plucky flax]

Vet onslaught for another 40%.

120% brittleness

It's ogrer now.

[summer prairie]

Onslaught probably uses the same debuff as trauma

[plucky flax]

You ruined it bro.

[summer prairie]

np

[plucky flax]

Source or it didn't happen.

[summer prairie]

I think Exploit weakness is the only rending_debuff_medium talent

onslaught is 2.5% and stacks up to 16 times, which is the same 40 cap

[tidal steppe]

waht skill tree is there for inferno staff smite bubble?

[plucky flax]

Any reason for smite with that staff tho?

[tidal steppe]

idk i like it

[plucky flax]

But it'd just be the standard build.

Perfect timing, psykenetic aura, cdr aura, bubble, then go left for warp charges.

[tidal steppe]

why not seers presence?

[strong gulch]

Not the yellow aura. It's a blue talent node.

Not confusing at all.

[plucky flax]

Both auras.

[tidal steppe]

oh that

[plucky flax]

Veri cool veri op.

Mfs dropping 5 bubbles in 1 fight.

[tidal steppe]

what curios do u want for a psyker

[plucky flax]

You can do whatever you want.

3 wounds crystalline will.

[upper sun]

stamina toughness hp

any combination is fine

[plucky flax]

You have op blaze away burga staff.

[late sapphire]

is it even an aura?

[strong gulch]

Very personal pref. In high havoc, HP is nice because of corruption modifiers.

On non havoc, the general rec is 200 or 201 HP and 1 sniper resist. That lets you eat a sniper shot and tank multiple bursters. After that do what you want.

But also just do what you want them.

[late sapphire]

Pretty sure it isn't

[plucky flax]

Well the person with that node has to deal the finishing blow. But it reduce cd for the whole team.

That's why stacking psykers in havoc is op.

When all guys run it.

[upper sun]

they should make auras stack

[strong gulch]

If you have no idea what to do or don't want to think about curios, do what Clad said.

One of each: stam, toughness, HP

[upper sun]

i wanna run 4 cdr psykers or 4 benediction zealots or 4 heavy attack aura ogryns

[tidal steppe]

ill just run what i normally use

[strong gulch]

Something I would suggest is not to run stam regen on psyker because with already have a short delay.

[tidal steppe]

got it ty

[upper sun]

one of each is comfy

[tidal steppe]

yea

i dont use health anymore tho

[plucky flax]

150hp gaming?

[upper sun]

hp perks

[strong gulch]

I'm looking at the footage from when we played and I ate multiple crusher overheads. I'm pro gamer. 🫡

Oh yeah, Clad was there too. Yellow toughness fir the win.

[marble crater]

Not the crusher overheads

[strong gulch]

Family sized portion. Not just a single serving.

[bronze storm]

Any general advice for builds in havoc? Planning to run a few games of it soon and would appreciate any help

[strong gulch]

Bubble and purg/ infero with hp curios is the meta right now.

[plucky flax]

It's chill up to lvl 30. Then it's burga or trauma with bubble.

[strong gulch]

Fire trauma/ voiblast also does well.

[marble crater]

I remember a week or two ago just walking around a corner right into a crusher overhead, died died right away, no going down first because of havoc modifier
So I can relate

[deft stump]

No 4 vets stacking survivalist and brrrrrrrr everything?

[upper sun]

thats just prenerf survivalist

[strong gulch]

Love that for you. Crusher delete.

[bronze storm]

Is this with brain rupture as well?

I would assume so, just making sure

[marble crater]

Yes

[strong gulch]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9dbe5e55-6d6f-4455-87ca-0ae9de736cd3/havoc-40-purg-infero-bubble-or-close-enough-to-it

[bronze storm]

Created by beans, brilliant

[strong gulch]

🫘

[plucky flax]

I used the exact same but I had wildfire instead of battery.

[marble crater]

My two high havoc builds are infero with BB and shield
and rending voidblast with smite and shield for the time there already is an inferno psyker

[plucky flax]

Because multiple psykers hard.

[summer prairie]

I want to do 4x surge shriek havoc

[plucky flax]

Tbh earlier today I played burga as solo psyker I could had taken wildfire off.

[strong gulch]

If you get bubble up before 6 warp charges then def take wildfire.

[plucky flax]

Into pus skin.

[strong gulch]

If you need bubble up ASAP take warp charges.

[summer prairie]

that and 4x bigsword only

some bistol usage for ranged specialists acceptable

[plucky flax]

I saw melee scab only earlier and I brought out the big sword meme.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1320616762487869511/Desktop_2024.12.23_-_11.57.29.04.mp4?ex=676a3fb4&is=6768ee34&hm=4b2ef01f0705ac0b6aff068120b34028c47baa724d36ec0eecfd7ccf92fdffae&

[strong gulch]

If you want to see that done badly (not all FGS) time stamp at 48:21.
https://youtu.be/h4AQRa-vnEc?si=WaTP4YCNSRN6XPcM&t=2901

[summer prairie]

4x bigsword but we spam charge level 0 special

[upper sun]

damn this unsanctioned guy is pretty smooth with the combo

[plucky flax]

30+ kills with the special force slash

That hit different.

[summer prairie]

if someone was inferno bubble, it's not what I was thinking

[ripe obsidian]

Big chop.

[strong gulch]

No it's at the end. 4 surge and shriek.

[summer prairie]

oh that

[plucky flax]

Unsanctioned swordmanship.

Don't try it at home.

[strong gulch]

But I lose all of my senses and forget how to play even sedition

[plucky flax]

Bring bubble and choir to sedition.

[strong gulch]

WTF

Staff bonk can't proc blazing spirit.

Well, there goes sedition memes with SG, blazing spirit, and warp splitting.

I'm actually upset.

[upper sun]

new staff specials when???????

[vernal temple]

a new staff would be nice, but what would it do?

[bronze storm]

Put a blade on the butt part so I can be crazy staff man

[upper sun]

surge = short aoe stagger for very high peril cost
purge = release flame trail (channel)
void = rapid fire mode
trauma = swap to melee mode

[true cairn]

Anyone able to quickly remind me what optimal trauma perks / blessings are?

[bronze storm]

Or, let me jump into the other pysker’s arm and let them use me like a staff, Shrimple

[clear heath]

Make it autopistol to make sure it's truely impossible to deal damage to anything other than a trapper or bomber with the gun

inspiring barrage autopistol to restore toughness

[upper sun]

blazing spirit nexus flak crit chance or flak carapace rending flurry

[strong gulch]

monster killer staff or actual single target, beam staff, levitation staff, staff that pulls or pushes to a certain location.

Staff that's a shotgun

[vernal temple]

beam staff sounds fun

[strong gulch]

Parry shotgun staff

[hearty wolf]

Monster killer staff would just become brain burst staff 🤔

Brain burst with 10s charge up but it deals 100k

[strong gulch]

but make it good

parry shotgun staff sounds pretty cool.

Now I want to play with that.

[vernal temple]

beam staff be like

[deft stump]

The charge up into a tunnel is...

[bronze storm]

A staff that I can throw like a spear and pull back to me(would be cool but alas )

[strong gulch]

360 bayblade gaming

Like elf javelin from VT2 but without the friendly fire. Getting domed with those is ouchie. lol

[bronze storm]

Let me sit on a big boy’s shoulders and use that lmao

[deft stump]

If there's even one, lul.

[bronze storm]

I’ll spawn one from the depths

[strong gulch]

Give ogryn back basket. Let psyker ride in it and the duo can rain down the pain.

[bronze storm]

Let the ogryn throw the basket like hulk does wolverine in rivals lmao

“FLY SPARKIE”

[strong gulch]

Psyker overload grenade

[bronze storm]

That’d be so funny to witness

[deft stump]

If psyker overloads, Oggy gets 4 secs to toss the basket.

[bronze storm]

Hot potato with another ogryn

[deft stump]

If it resets the boom time.

[strong gulch]

That would be incredible griefing material. I'm for it. Food for content.

[deft stump]

Martyrdom psyker, bigger boom the more corrupted wounds you have.

[upper sun]

smh why cant suicide psyker be a thing

[deft stump]

Also, if down to 1 wound left, perils does not kill you on a cooldown.

1 hp suicide play.

[cold geode]

Suicsyker? An unsanctioned psyker that runs directly to the sisters of silence when they show up?

[upper sun]

were all unsanctioned here

if the sisters show up were all dead

[native juniper]

Good perks and blessings for illisi?

[deft stump]

Questionably sanctioned, I guess.

[jovial juniper]

Uncanny Slaughterer

Then Flak Maniacs or something

[native juniper]

Im using this

with electro staff

[jovial juniper]

Honestly

I'd drop battle meditation

Then use those 2 points to get Kinetic Deflection

[marble crater]

They wanted to smite a lot, that's why I suggested that but yeah can do that as well

[plucky flax]

Oh ep smite you want battle med.

For more smiting.

[jovial juniper]

Just saying

https://tenor.com/view/im-just-saying-pastor-church-idk-hey-gif-15434893

[marble crater]

No worries, good to have options

[strong gulch]

smite #psyker-class message

[compact granite]

Goddamn smyggers

[jovial juniper]

Damn bro
Hard R and everything

[strong gulch]

flaniack

flak + maniac
slaughterer is the anchor blessing

slaughter + uncanny for more DPS
slaughterer + deflector for defensive utility

[compact granite]

you mena flakiac?

[strong gulch]

Meh. (yes but I don't like it)

[deft stump]

Maniack.

[compact granite]

ack

[compact granite]

ackswound

[patent mango]

who pringled me

funny sord gaming

[marble crater]

[patent mango]

https://tenor.com/bOgPs.gif

[marble crater]

the hell

[patent mango]

help him

[marble crater]

Same energy as
Halo is a pretty cool guy, he kills aliens and doesn't afraid of anything

[hearty wolf]

Oh hey, Zelda also wears green too

[upper sun]

yard my beloved.....

[plucky flax]

Not me.

[patent mango]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/721520171365171284/1311019478313861191/caption.gif

[bronze storm]

Got the 90 kills penance with this thing I am in love

[marble crater]

Frenzied killer or whatever it's called?

[bronze storm]

Yer

Was struggling because most people I play with do their job lmao

Them got that elevator mission with great sword and got it ez

[marble crater]

Nice, Hab Dreyko after the end event works too, everyone is busy running away so you can farm the horde that's coming from behind

[bronze storm]

I need the skull in there now that I think about it

One other in throneside too then I basically have the title

[marble crater]

Haven't played Dreyko since forever, where is the skull there again

[strong gulch]

By the first med station kinda where a DH likes to spawn.

[deft stump]

231 button puzzle into a 2 person lever pull into button thing

It's like to the left when you enter the building from memory.

[marble crater]

Now I'm questioning if I even have that skull

[strong gulch]

We didn't know about the paper and just pushed random things until it worked. lmao

[sullen whale]

the real problem skull is the one on throneside assassination with the jail cells

actually need 2 people to communicate

[deft stump]

I thought it was simple enough once you find the entrance.

[strong gulch]

Oh yeah. I hope the doors got fixed. Ghost doors.

[deft stump]

Just need two people to well, coordinate pictograms.

Oh, those doors?

Never fixed.

You still walk though half opened doors.

Or mostly closed doors, actually.

I'll just assume Rejects are super starved or something.

Not sure how an Oggy fits but eh, we don't question too much for sanity reasons.

[strong gulch]

https://youtu.be/aQ_1QkooD8c?si=NgAJ_y6r5K7Erxf2

[quartz barn]

imagine not having all skulls

[marble crater]

Ah okay, yeah I have that one thanks

[deft stump]

Excise vault.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I suffered through platforming and other bs for the rest.

[quartz barn]

isnt that just the elevator one that got you stuck

[deft stump]

But that map no exists reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

No clue, never had issues playing it.

[quartz barn]

new bug xd

[marble crater]

The one where you need to jump around above the subway tracks though

[deft stump]

Just didn't have someone to really do the skull with.

But when I do... Map no exist.

THanks FS.

[quartz barn]

the only penance that really requires co-op that i still need is the fan one in the hourglass array mission

[deft stump]

I should really go do that with some ppl I know on my force gs and vent build.

[quartz barn]

somehow got the 3 cells penance with a bad team because they gave me enough time to do 2 cells on my own, dropped them next to their deposit and lucked out

[deft stump]

More push, easier.

[quartz barn]

nah oggy with shield

[deft stump]

I'm not playing Oggy.

[quartz barn]

bigger push distance

i can

[deft stump]

I think you need to do it yourself for it.

[quartz barn]

no clue

most kills ive gotten before teammates pressd the second button was 6

but penance still says 0/10

[deft stump]

Why I was planning to do it 3 man private with GF and a friend.

[quartz barn]

i know i got those kills tho because numeric ui gives an error lmao

[deft stump]

Dunno.

[plucky flax]

Is there a skull in dark communion?

[patent mango]

yea

[strong gulch]

Apparently yes

[deft stump]

It's a platformer.

[strong gulch]

Oh. Jump puzzle

[deft stump]

When you first enter the sewers.

to the right.

There's a place you can jump off onto a pipe.

It's the only one I got it first try.

_>

[ornate hamlet]

siblings, how do we feel abt the combat shotgun on psyker?

[deft stump]

Says alot when i suck at platforming.

[quartz barn]

i had more trouble with that one

but fgs is slow :/

chasm station parkour is easy

[deft stump]

Illisi gud, for platforming.

I just suck at platforming okay.

[quartz barn]

they added a ladder to chasm station

[upper sun]

u just have to keep holding jump after the jump to mantle

[quartz barn]

so you can go back up and retry

[jovial juniper]

Surety of Arms+10% reload perk
Spam special shot

[ornate hamlet]

slug or fire?

[jovial juniper]

Slug is more finesse oriented

But you can just spam whatever you want

[deft stump]

I know, already did it. The only one I'm missing is excise vault... And you know that's impossible to get.

[ornate hamlet]

i tried testing out the fire one in the psykhanum but it deals so little damage, am i missing something?

another question, is cleave something that matters on combat knives, im assuming not

[deft stump]

You hit at most 3 things, and that's if you use Mk6 from memory.

[ornate hamlet]

ok i figured as much, and im using the mk3 so im guessing it matters even less

[jovial juniper]

Depends
Range for example
Aiming down sights for more damage

Then blessings

[marble crater]

Stacks

[ornate hamlet]

i need some help brainstorming

my head is starting to hurt

im making a combat knife shotgun build (mk3/slug)

what im wondering abt is the 5% ranged damage node and also warp unbound

if assail is my only way of generating peril do u guys think warp unbound is worth it? i kinda wanna take it but idk what to take off

and that 5% ranged damage node? is it worth taking? with DD and SG will the 5% be missed or does it add value to all the damage stacks

[strong gulch]

#psyker-class message

[sullen whale]

isn't that DB not combat shotgun

[zinc phoenix]

Platforming in this is pretty ass. I spent a good chunk of time doing it for skull hunting and it was uniformly awful. Worst one involves the trailer to tower solo jump puzzle imo

[radiant frigate]

knife 🤢

[zinc phoenix]

Knife is good for platforming imo

[sullen whale]

I actually enjoyed all the platforming and I was oggy lol

[zinc phoenix]

But it can screw you up some because of the increased sprint speed

[ornate hamlet]

brother what on god's green earth is this abomination you linked me

[sullen whale]

a vet build hopefully

[zinc phoenix]

I hate platforming and have since the 80s when Mario made me mald

[deft stump]

The one that requires a second player to pick you up if you fall?

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-i-am-speed-lightning-mcqueen-cars-meme-gif-14031708

[zinc phoenix]

Yep

Took me dozens of tries

[sullen whale]

https://tenor.com/view/2d-platformer-hollow-knight-metroidvania-platformer-sawblades-gif-25671187

[strong gulch]

@mossy oyster's build. Paradise is the resident shotgun user.

[zinc phoenix]

I had a very patient set of teammates in a malice mission who all did it and then cheered me through 😂

I then carried them through the mission so it all worked out

[deft stump]

I know. it's a mix of sprint jumps into standing jumps. And it's just too tight for me.

[sullen whale]

that one is always hilarious to get randoms to attempt

[strong gulch]

I wouldn't take precog on knife tho. That's zealot stuff

[ornate hamlet]

i see now

[zinc phoenix]

Well I did it and I am literally the worst platform jumper in world history

[sullen whale]

it's like 2 sprint jumps then just 5 normal jumps

the "risk" being on the 5 normals

[zinc phoenix]

I had to get a girl I liked to beat Mario’s first world on the SNES version so I could ride yoshi back in the day 😂

[deft stump]

Shush, I am. I'm worse at it than playing the actual game. And I'm already terrible. Ask anyone who though it was a good idea to drag me into damnation.

[ornate hamlet]

tbf platforming in fatshart games is kinda ass

half the time your jump input doesnt even register

[zinc phoenix]

Platforming is ass

[ornate hamlet]

[deft stump]

That was the hard part.

[sullen whale]

just press space and hold w the same exact way 5 times

[zinc phoenix]

My wife loves platformers tho, she’s even beaten nightmare king grim and the white palace in hollow knight

[deft stump]

And walk off the thin platfom because game says you didn't press jump.

[sullen whale]

erm, make it to land of storms then get back to me 💅

[zinc phoenix]

Idk what that is

Platformer nerd shit I assume

[sullen whale]

good, it's absurd what is required to get to it

[radiant frigate]

does this mean your kids will be of neutral skill in terms of platforming

[sullen whale]

no, nkg & wp was platformer nerd shit

[zinc phoenix]

Oh she did that

I looked it up

[radiant frigate]

i also have to say IRL platforming is kind of ass

you kind of succeed or fail on character creation

[marble crater]

Also no respawn, if you fail during the jump it might be game over

[radiant frigate]

bad game design

[zinc phoenix]

im honestly excited to find out

she just started the babbling phase

[deft stump]

Already failed. Also, you lose stats from things you can't control. Like being stuck living around chainsmokers ruining your lungs as you grew up.

[zinc phoenix]

so we're getting a lot of YAYAYAYAYAYA

and BABABABABA

[marble crater]

Upcoming ogryn main

[zinc phoenix]

and also a total lack of sleep because when they develop a NEW BEHAVIOR (which is ridiculously sudden) they stop sleeping because they start doing it all night

it seems to be something outside their control too, so she'll be extremely upset about it, visibly want to sleep and unable to stop babbling

same thing happened when she developed the ability to roll onto her stomach

she'd be dead asleep and then BAM rolled onto tummy

[radiant frigate]

here's the kicker: moat of character creation is pre-made for you
and then you have to make the best of the random stats you're given

[deft stump]

I mean, it's something new.

[zinc phoenix]

waking herself up in the process

[radiant frigate]

pretty hardcore tbh

[zinc phoenix]

kids are great, have em

[radiant frigate]

your sleep schedule is no longer your own

[deft stump]

I rolled low enbough to be dumped by the avg player, but not low enough to insta die on creation, I guess.

[radiant frigate]

if they're awake, so are you

[radiant frigate]

could be worse!

[blissful solar]

rolling low is just something society hopes no one gets too antsy about. just kinda hope you die in obscurity

or so it seems

[radiant frigate]

dying in obscurity is wack

[deft stump]

True. I guess.

[radiant frigate]

dying in general is wack

[zinc phoenix]

my wife is breastfeeding at night while cosleeping (which is apparently common in most places that arent the US) so we've split things up that i take the high intensity awake times and she takes the sleep times (and gets some sleep then too) and sleeps while the baby is most alert. works pretty good for the most part

[deft stump]

It will happen some day.

[zinc phoenix]

modern baby raising techniques are absolutely insane in their effectiveness btw

like we had the kid eating normal adult food at like 5months and change with her in charge of the food

back in the day you'd be spoon feeding them slop til they're over a year old

[deft stump]

I mean, they seem to learn faster and such.

[zinc phoenix]

oh yeah its nuts how fast they learn from that

her hand eye coordination is insane

you have to very carefully prep the food for them to avoid choking

[deft stump]

Wait till she stomps you in games, lul.

[zinc phoenix]

there's a ton of rules

LOL shes gonna absolutely mash me in platformers for damn sure

like it turns out traditional child rearing is ass in so many ways that make your life way harder than it needs to be

[potent echo]

how many levels of havoc do you lose if you dont do any missions for the week?

[zinc phoenix]

one

but i think you get no chest

[potent echo]

understandable

[zinc phoenix]

whether you care about the chest is your call

[potent echo]

i have way more mats then fatshark could ever make me spend

[deft stump]

Is more for the number beside your name in lobby.

I think.

[fathom adder]

Don't be so sure, they haven't implemented stats over 80% yet

[potent echo]

i'll get to that when they finally do

365 days of aurics probably gonna make me even richerer

[zinc phoenix]

i massively prefer havoc to aurics so i'm not bothered by the "do a mission" requirement

[haughty star]

These lobbies are terrible in auric rn lol

[late sapphire]

that's havoc clearance it's permanent im pretty sure

[blissful solar]

yeah your highest havoc ever is a permanent number that will never go down

and it's what others can see

[deft stump]

Ah.

[blissful solar]

it's so annoying that you derank down to your lowest havoc for the week

[blissful solar]

really? wouldnt you revert to 0 since your highest havoc for that week is 0? or do you really derank less if you play nothing than if you play a single game

[deft stump]

I mean, it's why I'm probs gonna have to find 3 people to carry my ass through the night mare that's 20 again.

And it's vent purge sniper gauntlet.

[late sapphire]

The whole deranking gimmick is stinky poopoo anyways

[deft stump]

I already hate it.

[late sapphire]

Stupid fucking fomo game design

[deft stump]

It was Light out before and garh.

[marble crater]

You know what else is stinky poopoo? Last week I did my 38 mission and the next one I could do was 39. Now after reset I have to finish my 38 again

[ornate hamlet]

am I hallucinating or is the 1st one actually better for a Blaze Trauma build

[deft stump]

Yep, is why I need to do another 20.

[upper sun]

one havoc a week

thats how we do it

[blissful solar]

everyone wants low warp resistance so that should be best. try not to fully empower it and keep the warp resist as low as it can be

[ornate hamlet]

what should I get it up to?

[marble crater]

First one is perfect once you level it up

[ornate hamlet]

I was just grabbing a new staff to see if my current (golden) one has a lower charge rate than average

[upper sun]

ye charge rate is big on trauma

[ornate hamlet]

I haven't even touched Heresy yet 💀

[marble crater]

Blast Radius is also only 35, by the time that is 80 your Warp Resistance will also be almost 60, so might as well max it out

[ornate hamlet]

Welp time to put my complete lack of resources to use

[blissful solar]

if you pray really hard it'll look like this.

idk how the numbers really work though so just empower slowly until everything is high enough and warp is low enough (idk)

[ornate hamlet]

Of course I roll an insane staff when my Psyker is only level 25

guys

love being new to games

thank you y'all

does one with the warp give 10% tdr at 0% peril?

[ornate hamlet]

does level actually matter that much or is just whatever makes the stats good, good?

[late sapphire]

believe it or not, this is covered in the atheneum in the pins

[ornate hamlet]

already checked 🙂

[late sapphire]

the item power is the stats

[ornate hamlet]

got it

i have that guide bookmarked

i always check it before

[late sapphire]

ok yes it is 10% at no peril

Then linear i believe

[ornate hamlet]

follow up question, for trauma is it fine if my staff's blast radius is abhorent?

[blissful solar]

technically the empowerment level doesnt mean anything, the stats do, but the stats and empowerment are 1:1 linked so...

[late sapphire]

Noooo

For voidBLAST/trauma the blast radius is the MOST important

For voidSTRIKE it is the least important

[ornate hamlet]

Yeah I dunno if this is gonna work chief

everything is good except blast radius

[blissful solar]

could just go up 1-3 times and it should go up to 60 blast radius at least

[late sapphire]

You can still bring it up to like a 30 warp res

[ornate hamlet]

lies

[marble crater]

Just keep it and level it up when you have the resources

I wouldn't keep the other stats low just to have low warp resistance

[ornate hamlet]

according to quick math the highest the blast radius will ever go is 61%

[marble crater]

If you can get the others to 80 without maxing warp res then fine, but otherwise it's not worth the tradeoff

[ornate hamlet]

so should I just trash it for now?

And actually give a shit later when I have actual resources

[marble crater]

It shows you that it will go up to 80 in the picture

[late sapphire]

You have to be able to read between the lines

[upper sun]

okie

[ornate hamlet]

it also says warp resistance will go up to 60%

[marble crater]

Yes

[ornate hamlet]

wait can I like

[upper sun]

i dont care what people say they 100% increased the spawns in high shock

[ornate hamlet]

over level

[late sapphire]

Which it will if you upgrade

The extra stat points that would go into maxed stats go into the others instead

[ornate hamlet]

ohhhhh

So yes I should upgrade it to as far as I can go

until everything but warp resist is 80

[late sapphire]

380 stats at 500 power (why???) -> 7.6 stats per upgrade

Split between 5 stats that's 1.52 each, if only one stat is lacking it gets the full 7.6 and so on

[ornate hamlet]

so just keep going until blast radius is max then stop

[late sapphire]

It used to actually be 380 power for 380 stats pre crafting update but fatshark smells

Yes

[ornate hamlet]

got it

[zinc phoenix]

If you play a game you are that game’s rank next week and you get a chest. If you don’t play a game you get no chest and go down one level

[ornate hamlet]

I'm gonna go ahead and assume better staffs do exist, where everything starts at almost max except warp resistance

[blissful solar]

that's kinda weird but such is life apparently

[marble crater]

Well sure, but then you have to pay a lot more dockets to try and get one of those. The one you have is perfect, you just need to level it up

[ornate hamlet]

understood, ty

still learning game mechanics

[upper sun]

i got trolled

[marble crater]

Good

[upper sun]

like epic trolled

i was in a 3 psyker mission as zealot and they seemed chill

so i was like someone add me ill rejoin as psyker

DECLINED

DECLINED

[patent mango]

trolled

[marble crater]

Why did you not just change character?

[late sapphire]

I hate to say it man but you got trolled epicly

[silver oxide]

Blazing spirit/soulblaze worth it on voidblast staff?

[fathom adder]

Yes

[upper sun]

i did

he added me

and declined the join requests

i queued up and got them anyways

[zinc phoenix]

Yep I didn’t make the world I’m just living in it 😂

[zinc phoenix]

You don’t have to leave to change character

[late sapphire]

blazing spirit warp nexus is meta for voidblast

there are some rending shockwave fans too but it's more situational

[strong gulch]

https://youtu.be/pxShYmKrKFg?si=Pbd6DtzNqCnR0yLq

[wanton terrace]

I played with a psyker the other day who seemed to kill everything with one hit in melee...any recommendations of the build? It was pretty amazing but we got a crash and I didn't get chance to ask them!

[blissful solar]

if you get the "inspect from social" mod and they are in your previous missions list (i think they also have to be online?) you can inspect them

[patent mango]

scriers gaze + disrupt destiny are the biggest dmg boosts for that

[blissful solar]

they could have either used dueling sword or deimos

[patent mango]

i keep typing acronyms out of habit lol

[upper sun]

how do i do it then?

[zinc phoenix]

Escape then switch operative

[upper sun]

i dont have that option in game

unless im blind

[upper sun]

you've been playing the game modded for too long 😭

[ornate hamlet]

wait I think I'm stupid nvm

[silver oxide]

still baffles me people still shoot and or dont know how to push pox bustrers on high intensity damnation

[late sapphire]

I like to shoot my poxbursters, you never know what will happen when it gets close

Vet might pop it, might get grabbed etc

[celest valve]

what weapon were they using

[wanton terrace]

Honestly not sure, a sword and I think they had the lightning staff but barely used it

[zinc phoenix]

I have never modded the game

[celest valve]

might be force greatsword iunno or the deimos like someone mentioned

[zinc phoenix]

You can’t switch operative when you are in the “readying for an operation” screen

[celest valve]

did they shoot off giant warp slashes that oneshot entire groups of enemies

[zinc phoenix]

What difficulty?

[wanton terrace]

damnation. I didn't think it was a duelling sword but I maybe wrong

[zinc phoenix]

Most likely DS with head poking and a bunch of the right side abilities to boost damage

[marble crater]

When you are on the ship there is the option to change character in that window

[upper sun]

ah

[marble crater]

You have done it with me in the group before

[upper sun]

well

it was quickplay

and i was in the lobby

[marble crater]

Well in the lobby you can't

I thought you found them through the party finder

[bronze storm]

You could also scream in the Morningstar till you find them lmao

[upper sun]

no

i do one havoc a week

no more no less

[marble crater]

[zinc phoenix]

but its the better mode

[upper sun]

idk i dont like it much

[clear heath]

havoc doesn't give me enough ordo dockets

[upper sun]

just play it once a week like me

[haughty star]

https://tenor.com/view/eye-brows-raising-gif-23831287

Pls change deimos into heavy vertical warp slice that takes less kills to fuel thnx fatshark

[upper sun]

fatshark pls improve the base attackspeed on illisi thanks

[fathom adder]

Instructions unclear. Obscurus special damage increased by 10% and activation time increased by 30% to compensate.

[marble crater]

Fatshark pls cure cancer

[upper sun]

noooooo

stop trying to make obscurus a thing

[haughty star]

Idk i think illisi is in a outstanding spot with the dodge buff and the attack speed node added

I honestly grab it more for my meleeker than the fgs

[prime elk]

Too late it’s already a thing

[patent mango]

obscurus meta approaches

[upper sun]

patch 14

obscurus now has great sword special on heavy and old special on light
heavy 2 deals 1k carapace damage
IJ nerfed to 3 stacks
ogryn has all keystones removed except heavy hitter
plasma gun has infinite ammo

yes

[fathom adder]

FGS is fun and killy and new but I feel like the game very frequently tells me "fuck you for not having more and better dodges"

[mental rock]

rending is now uncapped and uncanny gives 200%

[upper sun]

purge has thrust now

[fathom adder]

you WILL use uncanny

[upper sun]

and fgs has brutal momentum now

[mental rock]

and brutal momentum works on ogryns again

honestly kind of sad they nerfed it that way but I understand why

[fathom adder]

brutal momentum added to FGS
4 target limit from eviscerator inexplicably imposed

[patent mango]

new heavy force gs mark

even slower and 3 dodges

[thorn cedar]

Could do with new blessings on the FGS tbh. Relic Blade got so much unique shit and all we got is an incredibly lame guaranteed crit on special every 15s

[patent mango]

let warp slice unlock level 4 warp slash

[thorn cedar]

Why not a blessing that lets it charge up on blocked attacks
Or charge up at a slower rate but it charges on all kills even when the weapon isn't wielded
Just anything really lmao

[patent mango]

ok ok

new blessing never done before

high voltage.

[thorn cedar]

Murderous Tranquility is cute but has only one niche and it's not great.

[mental rock]

no fun allowed

you will take riposte/precog and you will like it

[hoary badge]

what if

30m pa

blessing

[late sapphire]

no dodges at all

dodges replaced with force push

[patent mango]

no dodges but you become guts berk

[late sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/guts-berserk-berserk-guts-gif-305406247544797821

me when new fgs

[patent mango]

its true

[zinc phoenix]

its niche is that you can stay in SG for as long as you can find a horde to kill while immediately converting all peril you generate to toughness with quietude. is pretty good niche

and b/c you're pretty much always 0 peril, warp splitting and warp rider arent a good pick so you can toss those for perilous combustion and two other things. ive been testing out souldrinker for PC + blaze trauma or zap stick (prioritizing specials which means fire) but there's other ways to go. its honestly a lot of fun, idk why others arent exploring this route

[ornate hamlet]

goddamnit

i’m really tryna make the combat shotgun work

why is this weapon so ass

[fringe garden]

Because it's not a staff

Critical problem

[ornate hamlet]

i cast slug

[wooden sand]

Make it into a staff

[jovial juniper]

Something something
Close range finesse esque ADS weapon

That eats ammo like crazy

[maiden oracle]

As melee psyker should I use voidblast to knockdown and apply brittle or voidstrike to do something idk what voidstrike does besides throw balls

[wooden sand]

Explode heads

[maiden oracle]

Carapace and bosses or just anything I don’t want to tackle in melee

[wooden sand]

You could use the electrical staff

[maiden oracle]

I thought electric does better with left/middle pathing

[jovial juniper]

It has crit bonuses

[wooden sand]

Yes

[jovial juniper]

So right also works

[wooden sand]

More crits means more deaths!

Incredible

[maiden oracle]

Alright

[jovial juniper]

Even though people will tell you otherwise

[maiden oracle]

How well does it do against rager/carapace hordes

[wooden sand]

If you spam charge spells (and have some specific blessings) it will do well to clear rager and carapace hordes

[ornate hamlet]

im trying to use the slug one with perfect timing to have a ranged bleed applier

feels really good into reapers

feels like trash vs everything else

except beasts of nurgle

[wooden sand]

If I remember theres this new crisis of psykers only using charged electrical staff attacks for everything

[ornate hamlet]

but i can stab everything else

except for bulwarks :/

[wooden sand]

Idk if is just me

[ornate hamlet]

id recommend voidstrike bc it goes well with sg and dd and it can help u nuke ogryn type enemies

[jovial juniper]

Wouldn't the Zarona shotgun be a better bleeder?

[mossy oyster]

foolish coward

some melee soyker

[ornate hamlet]

is that the fire applying one? I tried the fire one and the slug one and the fire just doesnt deal any damage

[maiden oracle]

Mf I’m not jumping into melee range against a burgle unless I’m not the one being puked at

[jovial juniper]

No
Agripina is slug
Zarona is wide
Accatran is fire

[mossy oyster]

your loss I’m speedrunning it

[maiden oracle]

Hell

Stream your gameplay for me sometime if you don’t mind

[mossy oyster]

soyker can do it just as fast as zealot

barely

but it’s possible

[ornate hamlet]

have u used it much yourself?

jw

[mossy oyster]

esp on FGS and esp on knife

[jovial juniper]

Yeah
Basically Scattershot+Flechette

Spam special shot

[ornate hamlet]

how would u say the boss dps stacks up?

[mossy oyster]

@fresh reef someone is trying to use the inferior combat shotguns (shitguns) give them your knowledge on the inferior shotgun rain

[ornate hamlet]

i ran into a plague ogryn that kinda beat my ass

whereas with the vraks i wouldve beat his ass

or even my combat knife

(i was just limit testing my shotgun)

same for chaos spawn

[thorn cedar]

It's fun but I don't see the purpose personally when BCoB offers extremely similar and sometimes even better results. I already hit 30 stacks on Scriers pretty easily with the FGS so it's not guaranteeing much outside of extending the active effect. Wrath still feels way too necessary and while a crit engine blessing is certainly a valuable second choice, I don't see anything I'd really replace it with that's especially unique or cool.

Relic Blade got so much cool shit. Most of it is shit, of course, so don't get me wrong, but the blessings are unique and allow functionality you can't get anywhere else.

[ornate hamlet]

guys what do u think of my psyker's drip

[mossy oyster]

he might have epitaph

[azure rapids]

whats the spark staff called?

elektrokinetic right?

sorry what a dumb question

whats the most meta build for that staff?

[marble crater]

Secondary zap zap with flak, maniac, Nexus and Flurry

[buoyant maple]

Combat shotguns have high boss dps with no respite blessing until they need to reload

[thorn cedar]

youll never delete a BoN so fast

[ornate hamlet]

stupid question: but how does one stagger bosses exactly? is it just like zealot book and vet shout?

im using full bore and flechette on the agripna

the boss damage isnt really hitting like i thought it would

[upper galleon]

why flechette

over manstopper

near infinite cleave on crit vs, a little bit of bleed on crit

[ornate hamlet]

i have bleed on my knife and i thought it would be cool to also have bleed on my shotgun, also with perfect timing and slug shot i can apply 6 stacks of bleed at any range i want

[upper galleon]

bleed caps at 16 stacks and without manstopper, flechette is just not that good

[ornate hamlet]

but its a precision shotty, i dont think ill really get manstopper

i also just plan to pull it out to blast reapers and bosses

ill stab everything else

[upper galleon]

but flechette is also on crit

manstopper will let you oneshot entire conga lines of ranged elites/specialists

[fringe garden]

Yes, oneshotting conga lines is one of the most satisfying things in the game

It is known

[upper galleon]

like the only time i used flechette on a shotgun is on weapon spec vet cause i get guaranteed crits, so manstopper will dramatically boost flechettes value

[vernal temple]

Bruh, I've just had the craziest mission in a while.

Regular T4 difficulty, high-intensity shock troops on Aegis Station. A total of 7 different people came and left during the whole mission.

[gilded cosmos]

is Equinox Mk IV Voidstrike Force Staff a good staff ?

[buoyant maple]

Yea because you need no respite

[upper galleon]

without crit, you are better just going no respite

and if you do go crit, it's scattershot manstopper

[jovial juniper]

Yes

[ornate hamlet]

but how do i stagger bosses as psyker?

[ornate hamlet]

if i wanted to do that i can just use voidstrike :p

[vernal temple]

u don't

[ornate hamlet]

so why use no respite?

[upper galleon]

because someone else is going to stagger it

and if you have knife that is your boss killer anyways

not your shotgun

[buoyant maple]

u don't

[upper galleon]

you have precog just stab his face

[buoyant maple]

no respite just works really weirdly

[ornate hamlet]

im using uncanny

[upper galleon]

uncanny precog?

oh yea bleed,

whatevs

[ornate hamlet]

uncanny - flesh tearer

[ornate hamlet]

how?

[ornate hamlet]

ive always wondered about uncanny riposte tho

[upper galleon]

bleed is just limiting your damage potential tbh

[buoyant maple]

it counts stacks per stagger instance

not off successful stagger

[ornate hamlet]

what do u think is the highest dmg on knife

[upper galleon]

it feels good cause it's a dot but psyker can juice crits

[upper galleon]

riposte+precog

uncanny is for consistency, if you have enough crit you don't even need that since knife has crit adms and they are all above 1.0

[broken carbon]

precog. riposte/uncanny

[broken carbon]

be careful, people here think precog is dogshit

somehow

[ornate hamlet]

ive always been on the fence abt precog

[broken carbon]

if you can melee

[upper galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-gif-26460616

[broken carbon]

precog is great

[upper galleon]

especially on right side psyker

[broken carbon]

ive gotten into a good few arguments about it lmfao

[ornate hamlet]

very well

i have gained new knowledge today

time to go try it out

[broken carbon]

60% finesse damage applies to both weakspot and crit damage

so if you weakspot crit, you're getting a ton more damage

[ornate hamlet]

riposte precog or precog uncanny?

[late sapphire]

It's about 40% for weakspot crits on ds4, not sure about knife

[ornate hamlet]

im thinking maybe reposte precog bc in the 2 seconds i have precog id really wanna crit? but i think the dmg on precog uncanny would be very nice to see

[upper galleon]

prob riposte uncanny if going left/mid tree. right tree wants uncanny precog or just send it with riposte precog

[maiden oracle]

I was thinking about replacing riposte with that talent that boosts damage with peril

[ornate hamlet]

[upper galleon]

this is uhh, combat blade

we talking about, numbers

[buoyant maple]

Still only 60% finesse

[broken carbon]

unstable power

its

okay imo

[maiden oracle]

Damn

[broken carbon]

im not too big of a fan of it

you can get value out of it but

i think there are better options

[broken carbon]

on what weapon

force sword?

[upper galleon]

60% finesse on a weapon with 3.0+ finesse ratio

[maiden oracle]

Fgs

[tulip kettle]

i think any weapon that can take uncanny should take uncanny

[broken carbon]

not really

zealot knife does better with riposte precog than uncanny

[upper galleon]

duelist sword and force swords, yea, it's a great consistent blessing for players of all skill levels

[broken carbon]

ds4 doesnt need uncanny

[tulip kettle]

i disagree with both of those things but sure

[upper galleon]

for combat, blade, you don't need uncanny if you are heavily invested in crit, it has crit adms that are all above 1.0 (100%) effectiveness

[upper galleon]

true

[ornate hamlet]

wtf is crit adms

[late sapphire]

477 to 690 cara weakspot crit on a mk3 knife with precog alone

About 40%

[broken carbon]

precog, riposte, shred, deflector

are better imo

[maiden oracle]

Ghrugh

Alright

[broken carbon]

armor damage modifiers

[late sapphire]

Uncanny doubles weakspot, +50% or so with crit cause of adm

[upper galleon]

knife is a semi-unique weapon with the fact it has different armor damage modifiers when it crits

[broken carbon]

its not unique

it just has the most noticable change

[ornate hamlet]

my knife is unique

[broken carbon]

(pretty sure)

[upper galleon]

25%

[ornate hamlet]

there might by many that look like it

but mine is unique

[upper galleon]

unless something is fucky, your crit should only be getting a 25% damage boost

because that is how rending converts

[late sapphire]

Check bp calc

Knife does not do 100% damage to cara even on crit

[upper galleon]

BP calc is not being accurate in that case

[late sapphire]

P sure its accurate and you just stink

[upper galleon]

it absolutely should be, because that is why zealots skip uncanny on combat blade

[buoyant maple]

Not fully accurate

Displays first target damage fluctuations with cleave damage stat modifiers, which is not in the game

[upper galleon]

the only way it would give a 50% boost is if the adm on crit is 0.5, and the base would be even lower

[late sapphire]

Multiplicative 50%

Not additive

[ornate hamlet]

bratwurst from my experience is a serial misinformation spreader

take this guy with a grain of salt

[upper galleon]

wartide is a great calculator but it isn't infallible

unless something is not working correctly in-game (also very possible)

[marble crater]

Things in the game not working correctly?

[jovial juniper]

[celest valve]

which attack.

[white shard]

Hey hey, was wondering if anyone wanted to help me with the 'Malleus Monstronum' penance?

[celest valve]

lessee. 0.1 to 0.95 scaling on default armor piercing stat

[jovial juniper]

@upper sun

[celest valve]

and 0.25-0.75 boost_curve_multiplier_finesse

[jovial juniper]

With this @ I summon....

[celest valve]

huh.

both mark 3 and mark 6 push follow attacks deal literally identical damage.

that's...surprising.

has anyone timed the speeds of the pushfollow attacks for both marks?

[fiery stratus]

Anyone wanna do havoc? starting at 35 unless someone has higher

[jovial juniper]

Welcome to knife

[celest valve]

i think mk 3 might be faster

[fiery stratus]

they're good for different things

3 is a downward on heads so its not as good against things like maulers

for pushblock

[celest valve]

how so

[fiery stratus]

because mauler heads are carapace vs body being flak

[marble crater]

I can join a bit later and start 38

[celest valve]

...so?

you want to hit the head.

[fiery stratus]

carapace is more resistant than flak?

[celest valve]

doesn't matter if weak spot is the head

[fiery stratus]

so generally its better not to hit maulers in the head unless its something like mk4

yes but the carapace is still more resistant

[celest valve]

mauler 524 damage head, 178 body

[fiery stratus]

right, and if you use the 6 it stabs to the body

[celest valve]

crit is 820 head, 553 body

...no, it stabs to where you aim.

[hollow current]

uncanny?

[celest valve]

mark 6 :p

[nocturne dust]

[celest valve]

what

[nocturne dust]

Candy cane

[fiery stratus]

Idk with crits they're kinda similar

[patent mango]

what is this screenshot

[celest valve]

yes that's the mastery skin

[fiery stratus]

from my testing

[celest valve]

it's a screenshot

[patent mango]

its scary

oh is that knife

[celest valve]

looks fine to me.

[patent mango]

scary

[sturdy reef]

penetration of the soul still bugged

[ornate hamlet]

i take back what i said earlier

slug shotgun is quite good on gunker

[sturdy reef]

literally does nothing

[celest valve]

it does do something, it calculates a shitton of things before pissing it away

[ornate hamlet]

doing nothing is better than empyric resolve

[sturdy reef]

ER is not bad

[nocturne dust]

always

[sturdy reef]

10% rending is still shit

[celest valve]

would you prefer the base skin 😛

[sturdy reef]

vet just gets it for free

you gotta nearly explode for 10% rending lol

[celest valve]

for nothing, you mean

[ornate hamlet]

i see the day has finally come where the baiter is getting baited hmm

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-a-knife-crocodile-dundee-gif-10637727

[ornate hamlet]

how do you inspect?

[patent mango]

knoife

[celest valve]

hold x, knife has a rare animation too for the balance

[ornate hamlet]

thanks

[fiery stratus]

All I'm saying is a just crit back to back, hit 640 on head and 680 on body

they're pretty close though

the damage difference is in the 10s

2 different ones too, uncanny is gonna make a difference too

[celest valve]

what the fuck lame ass knife

[fiery stratus]

amount of stacks is gonna dictate more damage

[celest valve]

sorry what the actual fuck are you using for a weapon there to get those numbers

[fiery stratus]

meta knife on zealot with charge and bp

no precog trigger though

[celest valve]

...bp? what does that do again

[fiery stratus]

big crit chance and damage

[celest valve]

how the fuck

[fiery stratus]

blazing piety the bottom left keystone

[celest valve]

so like on veteran this is the knife i am using

[nocturne dust]

charge gives 100% rending

[celest valve]

which attack too

[fiery stratus]

vet wants mercy killer

[celest valve]

565 headshot, 137 body

well

[nocturne dust]

ok now crit

[celest valve]

137 body 337 head ok

[fiery stratus]

if you put on serrated blade and mercy killer it procs often

[celest valve]

521 head, 426 body :p

that's still like 20-25%

[upper sun]

hi

still need help?

im eating rn but i can help in like 30 minutes if no one helped you yet

[midnight cove]

man I know it's been said a million times but psykinetics aura is so fucking insane

I was playing book zealot in 40 dark communion and I had to run past a respawn point to the gauntlet room (which has a monstrosity at the end) all alone to res the entire team, ran past probably 100 elites, managed to res the psyker before everything caught up and holy shit the resets I got from psykinetics aura

I pressed book like 4 times in 30 seconds

[true cairn]

Anyone here uses bubble and smite? Seen a couple psykers in my higher havocs really doing a lot of work with both

[midnight cove]

smite is okay but I would much rather have a purg staff psyker absolutely melting everything

[jovial juniper]

It's probably the only place where bubble smite is " good "

[true cairn]

Yeah they seemed extremely cc focused

Left the actual killing of things to us

[sturdy reef]

its all about team comp

[midnight cove]

killing is the best cc

[true cairn]

That's well and true but sometimes having things immobilised to have more time to kill them is also good

[azure rapids]

what do you guys use on infernos taff?

[jovial juniper]

Blaze Away

Warp Nexus

Then Flak + Whatever

That whatever being Maniacs/Elites/Unyielding

[midnight cove]

you're not wrong but chorus pulls this off great aswell

[sturdy reef]

I do flak + crit

crit on inferno staff applies 2 soulblaze stacks

raises the cap to 16

[nocturne dust]

flak + unyielding

blaze away + pen flame because I'm crazy

[fathom adder]

Is Scriers Inferno a meme or is it actually on a level with (or even further beyond?) the usual Venting Shriek build

[nocturne dust]

meme

Does damage against bosses tho

[celest valve]

hmm. finessee stat from 0.9x speed to 1.05x?

[jovial juniper]

Let's just say you don't really get a lot of value from Scriers

[celest valve]

or bout 16.67% inccreased attack speed

[jovial juniper]

With the inferno that is

[nocturne dust]

They'll change reality anchor to make staff scrier's better, trust

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[jovial juniper]

Reality Anchor 🤢

[celest valve]

attack speed only scales to +14.29 tho hmm

[jovial juniper]

Hear me out
+Warp instead of -Peril for Reality Anchor

Oh but it's called Reality Anchor
Shut up
Reality is what I want

And I can do whatever with it

[nocturne dust]

+warp?

[jovial juniper]

It's my reality

Hahahahah

[nocturne dust]

+warp damage oooooorrrrrrr?

[jovial juniper]

Yeah as in extra Warp damage

[nocturne dust]

Hhhhmmmm I'd prefer something interesting over just +damage but I guess it would work

[hollow current]

another casual 20% to go with Warp Rider and Unstable power.

Just Psyker things.

[jovial juniper]

I'd like something interesting as well but I'm also settling for simple solutions

[nocturne dust]

Zealot getting +50% crit and +50% weakspot from a single node

[upper sun]

zealot, vet, ogryn trees be like : 20%

[nocturne dust]

Vet just gets the bonus