psyker-class

[plucky flax]

Bro started meleeing instead of doing bb for penance.

Built different

[native juniper]

[plucky flax]

[slim acorn]

do you have to use empowered psionics to get pick n mix?

[wind spruce]

No

[slim acorn]

really? i can see kinetic resonance helping, but i'm not sure it's enough with the peril accumulation

[native juniper]

i dont have that

i just got it by chance

[wicked hornet]

what's a good SG staff build? heard that's a thing. I guess you use Voidstrike staff though

[strong gulch]

Here's @nocturne dust's SG voidstrike build.

[wicked hornet]

I need more loadout slots lol

[strong gulch]

Idk if you mod or not, but mods help

[wicked hornet]

I do and I'm looking right now lol

[strong gulch]

iirc it's crit chance + maniac and surge + nexus

edit: Had flak but it was supposed to be maniac for better partial charge special killing.

[strong gulch]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/209

[wicked hornet]

just got it lol

[nocturne dust]

I use maniac to half charge more specials over flak

But a lot of the normal perks will work for the build

[strong gulch]

Got it and updated where I said flak.

[plucky flax]

This is fine

Okay they only wanted chinese players.

[strong gulch]

Not the "correct type" or amount of Asian. Felt

[plucky flax]

What kind of asian are you?

[strong gulch]

Japanese white. So yes no depending who you ask.

[split lance]

Like. Ur mixed?

Or just a very light Japanese person

[strong gulch]

yeah I'm biracial

[split lance]

Idk if that sounded rude or not but it kinda does in my head my apologies if so

[strong gulch]

It wasn't to me at the very least.

It's funny

[split lance]

im also mixed

[strong gulch]

But also yeah. I am very pale.

[split lance]

but im basically just 2 different types of latino

lmao

[sour frost]

hey yall, quick question

does precognition work with warp unbound

like

can i kill an enemy in the weakspot and then gain the effect of not overloading

[plucky flax]

Que?

[split lance]

mexican/salvadorian

[wicked hornet]

bueno

[plucky flax]

How legal are you?

[split lance]

was born in USA

so legal

[plucky flax]

You speak any spanish?

[split lance]

si

[plucky flax]

Pog

[split lance]

como estas

te quiero mucho

te voy a tochar

[plucky flax]

@patent mango are you proud daddy?

[strong gulch]

No. Precognition is active durring scrier's gaze (SG). When SG ends, the damage buffs lasts 10s and is no longer "active". Warp Unbound (WU) is active when SG ends/

[strong gulch]

death kidney

[sturdy reef]

warp rider/warp unbound my beloved

[sour frost]

interesting thank you

[plucky flax]

Looks about right.

[elfin roost]

Whats going on in this picture?

[sturdy reef]

so many hp bars

[plucky flax]

That force slash special killed about 30 enemies.

My kill tracker jumped to 40+

[sturdy reef]

deimos my beloved

[strong gulch]

It's a head flying through Agent's head.

[elfin roost]

oh

[strong gulch]

Yeah it did. It was juicy.

[plucky flax]

It's warp magic don't worry about it.

Just normal dt thing.

[sturdy reef]

a pox hound got killed by getting flung off the map from a burster I pushed

literally flew past my face as it got flung

[plucky flax]

Big sword is not as good as ds4 but damn is it just so fun to play.

[sturdy reef]

so cathartic

voidblast/inferno I run deimos

everything else I run fgs

[nocturne dust]

I run FGS with voidblast/inferno anyway

[strong gulch]

FGS is good enough for enerything.

[sturdy reef]

exactly

while not being as OP as poop knife and the pointy stick

so its still fun

[strong gulch]

I haven't used it a lot yet, so I am bad with it.

But even I can kill a pack of crushers with it.

[sturdy reef]

the mk6 overheads into stab

so fun

that stab range

[plucky flax]

Just outrange all the elites.

Big sword is indeed big.

[sturdy reef]

legit

[plucky flax]

Mauler can't overhead you but you can overhead it.

[strong gulch]

Yeah. FGS is like the other side of the coin in terms of knife. Both can tackle everything but one is big and slow and the other is smol and fast.

[sturdy reef]

great for wall cheesing

[strong gulch]

The real strat

[sturdy reef]

fgs is my fav to use for hunting grounds

[nocturne dust]

big and fast when

[strong gulch]

Please. 🙏

[plucky flax]

I think the best strat for me to play havoc here is just to not type anything.

Pretend I'm chinese.

[kindred ivy]

is this alloewed?

auto clicker?

[hollow current]

I mean, you won't get banned for it.

[fathom adder]

tfw you enjoy the Mk6 FGS stab so much you have more overkill than actual damage

[nocturne dust]

yes

[kindred ivy]

thatas actualyl cheating

[nocturne dust]

no

not by Fatshark's rules it's not

[hollow current]

Have you seen the surge staff macros?

[nocturne dust]

Bro would explode if they knew the depths of modding

[plucky flax]

No.

[strong gulch]

Yes. It's known. It's annoying.

[kindred ivy]

iutis cheatingh

[strong gulch]

You can do it that fast without a macro,

It destoys hands tho.

[kindred ivy]

just add a mode

that lets u hold left click

for on firerate click

wihtout this shti

warframe did it

[sturdy reef]

macro is way more consistent and less straining. Is it bannable? Up to FS. Right now, no.

[nocturne dust]

That mod exists

[kindred ivy]

and the code to do so is surprisingly easy

[strong gulch]

There's also mods / macro that is just primary or left click spam with out any cancels.

[kindred ivy]

actually cheating lamo

[nocturne dust]

It literally isn't

Fatshark does not consider it cheating, and they set the rules

It's a PvE game anyway 🤷‍♂️

[strong gulch]

Accessibility.

[sturdy reef]

ehhhh

[strong gulch]

I am not talking about the quell cancel speed macro. Just the click if you smash the button.

[sturdy reef]

oh

[strong gulch]

Like recon vs laspistol.

[sturdy reef]

I get ya

[kindred ivy]

cheating

[strong gulch]

Yup a ramp vs stairs is cheating.

[tender lynx]

Lol, I just joined to ask if there was a method to automate clicking beccause my RSI is acting up

[kindred ivy]

what is that comparison?

[nocturne dust]

KeepSwinging mod + the auto fire one

[kindred ivy]

keep the auto dodge

auto play

auto run

auto cancel

auto hacking minigame

auto headshots too

cause my doctor said i have a skill issue

[strong gulch]

A regular speed clicker (the the machine gun quell cancel macro) is accessibility.

Being able to just hold the button down for recon lasgun vs needing to constantly click for laspistol.

[strong gulch]

I said that is accessibility and you said cheating.

I admittingly now am questioning if that second cheating comment was in response to my explanation.

But that is why I made the ramp vs stairs comparison.

[nocturne dust]

I literally don't even care if people turn the game off with mods. They could literally have an autoplay mod and I would not mind others using it. It's PvE.

[strong gulch]

Pretty much.

[sturdy reef]

nah I wanna play with people for better or worse

thats a bit much

[nocturne dust]

I mean I want others to be present

but like

if they were just watching that'd be fine to me

[strong gulch]

Being present vs ability to play the game.

[nocturne dust]

Especially in randoms

Like maybe there's an argument for when you actually go through the trouble of finding a team or playing with friends, but in randoms I really don't need others to be doing anything other than participate in any sense of the word.

[subtle harbor]

So im trying to test out precognition but i have no idea when its actually procced because no icon shows up. Or if it does, its not the same as the icon in the talent tree

[jovial juniper]

It's Scriers

[subtle harbor]

Yeah then it must not be proccing

Cause i’m getting weakspot kill markers (red with 2 layered x’s) but nothing is showing up

What am i doing wrong?

[kindred ivy]

i would

it ruins the game for ppl that want to actually polkay the game

i wanna play the game

and nto ahve someone auto winnigns

becasue they have "muh disibility" mods

i DO THINK there should be more disability options on the configs

because mods are extremelyl unregulated

and can result in cheating or something close to it

the awrframe thing taht makes all weapons automatic, just hold the button that evne manual weapons will fire on time legit made the game more enjoyable

and a bunch of weapons became viable because of it

just add to this game

vigilant autoguns would SKYROCKET

in useage

also > press the main fire then quickly press quell

sounds like a bug.

or unintended

hope they patch out

[jovial juniper]

It's the Scriers icon

Like

[nocturne dust]

how?

[subtle harbor]

Thats the thing. Its not showing up. At all

[kindred ivy]

kills all enemis, boost dps with the hyperspam of fire, removes challenge.

if i wanted to instawin id play sedition

[nocturne dust]

For one, you're talking about a specific problematic build, not people playing (or not playing) how they want

[subtle harbor]

Even with scriers active it doesn’t proc anything

[nocturne dust]

For two, no build just 'kills all enemies'

[kindred ivy]

its the same issue ppl ahve with smite a bit. it removes a lot of the challenge of the game

i know, i use smite a lot

altho i usualyl play on duo or trio

[nocturne dust]

Play any auric or havoc 40 and you will always have enemies to kill no matter your build (unless you're on Inferno and getting outranged )

[kindred ivy]

yeah, ofc u have to kill enemies

i do feel like this could be handled better on fat sharks part

on specifically mods that say they are for disability

but its a very fucked up grey line

[nocturne dust]

Right, but again that's a balancing issue, not a person-playing-how-they-want issue

[kindred ivy]

auto gameplay mods

shouldnt be a thing.

[nocturne dust]

Fatshark could easily prevent quell cancellers from doing the things they do, or other such OP builds

[nocturne dust]

but why

[strong gulch]

It's this.

"psyker_overcharge_stance_finesse_damage"

[nocturne dust]

Your only point about why they shouldn't be a thing

is actually attacking something else, overpowered builds

[subtle harbor]

That the thing. It is not showing up. Which leads me to believe its not proccing

[radiant frigate]

it's just scrier's

is your peril going up without you doing things? congratulations, it's working

[kindred ivy]

winrar file and homosexual whatever

i dontlie it

:(

🐭 🧨 -> 🔥 🥢

[nocturne dust]

[radiant frigate]

what that mean

[wind spruce]

The count from precog doesn't show up until after scriers hits 100%

But it's working from as soon as you get the headshot kills

[subtle harbor]

so i need to headshot and THEN use scriers or am i misunderstanding?

[strong gulch]

It's showing up for me (in the middle of the screen). I have the precognition talent and psyker_overcharge_stance_finesse_damage selected as a priority (with a mod). Not any other scrier's buff icons. Also warp unbound is not selected.

When I unselect precognition, the buff icon doe snot show in the middle.

[wind spruce]

When it hits 100% you should notice it jump up quire a gew

[wind spruce]

You're misunderstanding.

[subtle harbor]

i see now

no i meant headshot then use scriers to see the proc

[wind spruce]

You activate scriers, and each second gives you 1 stack plus each headshot kill gives you one stack, but the latter procs don't show up in the count

[subtle harbor]

got it

so its just fuckin spaghetti then

[wind spruce]

Spaghetti in terms of the UI, but it's working as you'd expect

[strong gulch]

precognition is active during SG then has a lingering buff

You can't build stacks outside of SG.

[subtle harbor]

got it

Smite or Assail for a melee focused build?

[nocturne dust]

assail

[strong gulch]

Assail has DPS and CC/ stagger and helps works really well with weaving assail in-between melee attacks. That's the meta option. It also helps with ammo if you take a gun.

But some use smite well enough to push enemies where they want for melee.

Simple answer is assail.

Smite is not meta for melee but is a playstyle.

[sturdy reef]

I wish assail had quick draw like throwing knives

[strong gulch]

You mean like draw cancel?

Because assail unleashes fast.

Or do you mean not having to switch to a blitz?

[nocturne dust]

My only wish is that assail shards would just float around your head and continue existing until they hit their target cap

[ornate hamlet]

So I'm new to Darktide but have played Vermintide around a hundred hours. Currently playing through the game still, Trust Level 25, and I'm wondering which of these are better to go with. I've been trying to make Scrier's work, but I'm not sure how to apply Scrier's to the Voidblast. So I figured I'd look at Venting Shriek and Warp Siphon instead of Scrier's and Disrupt Destiny. But I just wanted to know which of these were better overall, and how I should be using Scrier's because I don't think I'm good enough at the game yet to figure it out myself. Because I'm wondering if the bonus damage from Warp Siphon, which is obviously nowhere close to the sheer amount of bonuses Scrier's gives, would make the build more generalist for not just melee
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9dca9227-ca9d-4be0-b1c4-27b41169ec73/playthrough-mk-i?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button
(one second making the second build rq)

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9dca95d4-04d2-463e-9845-e7c0bfe23414/playthrough-mk-ii?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/yondu-guardians-of-the-galaxy-marvel-raveger-gif-14581269

[ornate hamlet]

Sorry for the text wall

[ornate hamlet]

kinda like a crown or a small meteor belt around your head?

[nocturne dust]

yeh

[mental rock]

first of all dont take surge on voidblast

[nocturne dust]

Kinda a lil

[ornate hamlet]

I fw the idea of a crown made of assail shards

[ornate hamlet]

noted lmao

[nocturne dust]

The latter build is better

because it's kinda going in the direction of Blaze Trauma

buuuuuuuuut a lot of the choices are weird

like taking Inner Tranquility but skipping Empyric Resolve

[mental rock]

yeah second page looks much better, still some things to change

[radiant frigate]

xd

[ornate hamlet]

At first I just wanted to do melee psyker then I'm gradually realizing I just wanna make stuff fall over then cut hordes in half with greatsword

[nocturne dust]

I mean it depends what you want

[subtle harbor]

Y’all i discovered the push stab on the force greatsword today. Greatest accident i’ve ever made.

[radiant frigate]

i like to skip the fall over part

[nocturne dust]

Psyker has two main builds, soulblaze and scrier's/DD

[radiant frigate]

straight to greatsword

[nocturne dust]

soulblaze is largely for staves

[ornate hamlet]

real asf

[maiden oracle]

Can I get a build for rmb double ball staff

[nocturne dust]

but if you want to be switching weapons a lot and be a generalist, Scrier's/DD is better

[subtle harbor]

I just try and keep my peril at red levels and fuck shit up with my melee build

[ornate hamlet]

one sec I forgot what all these names mean I need to consult the tree

[nocturne dust]

Behold

ball spam

[maiden oracle]

Oh shit fr?

This looks more like the melee/gunker builds I run

[nocturne dust]

I mean, Voidstrike is the only staff that works very well with right side

[maiden oracle]

That’s peak

[nocturne dust]

But the build is tight

You really don't have any talent points to spare

[subtle harbor]

Should i ditch the scrier’s speed boost and go for the no down at 100% one?

[ornate hamlet]

Trauma for when elites are mixed in, otherwise I just cut them myself

[nocturne dust]

Generally, yes

but depends

[maiden oracle]

Ah that’s rough

What perks and blessings

I know I neednsurge I don’t remember what else

[nocturne dust]

crit chance, maniac, surge, nexus

[maiden oracle]

Surge nexus?

Got it

[strong gulch]

People do play lmb/ primary on staf with SG (scrier's gaze) but they do it with Electrokinetic (aka surge or EK) staff. It has a higher crit chance because it's the only staff with a crit bonus stat.

SG voidblast (aka trauma) is a meme. The meta build is fire trauma with shriek, and warp charges (WC). Here's a common build. #psyker-class message

I personally prefer KD and sacrifice warp battery to get that.

[subtle harbor]

I never really find myself hurting for speed. Its always me fucking up and doing some shit that adds peril while i’m already at 100

[nocturne dust]

although you can also use other perks like flak and unyielding

but I think maniac is generally the best

[ornate hamlet]

having a small stroke trying to remember what empyric resolve and inner tranquility do

[nocturne dust]

They both reduce peril generation

[maiden oracle]

Wait is fire trauma just another name for voidblast or is it the flame staff

[nocturne dust]

Inner Tranquility is the purple subnode of Warp Siphon

[nocturne dust]

Empyric Resolve is just above Warp Siphon

[subtle harbor]

Fuck peril reduction, all my boys want peril increase

[wicked hornet]

trauma voidblast/ trauma

[nocturne dust]

and ER is a lot better than Inner Tranquility

[maiden oracle]

What

[nocturne dust]

Fake staffker

[nocturne dust]

Trauma is Voidblast

[subtle harbor]

When my peril is at 100% i am happy. When it is not, i make sure it is

[nocturne dust]

Fire Trauma is a specific Voidblast build

[maiden oracle]

And fire trauma is fire staff?

[strong gulch]

Trauma is the old name for voidblast. Fire trauma is trauma staff with blazing spirit.

[maiden oracle]

Oh shit

Alright then

[nocturne dust]

OBLIGATORY THANKS FATSHARK FOR THE RENAMES

[wicked hornet]

its a blessing blazing spirit on voidblast/ trauma

[ornate hamlet]

oh I remember hearing that Empyric is bad bc it reduces toughness and usually you want a higher peril for both ability and all your buffs

[nocturne dust]

That's bad advice

It's a lot more complicated than that

[ornate hamlet]

I should be surprised

I will never be bothered to check the math

So I let smarter people think for me

[nocturne dust]

For one, quell times matter, and you will be quelling a lot more without Empyric Resolve. That's worse than spending a little more time to get up to max peril.

[ornate hamlet]

Ogryn mindset

[ornate hamlet]

muchos gracias for the build, will be referencing often

[subtle harbor]

My build is entirely “the higher your peril the stronger you are. Spam your staff then take out your sword, you have some killing to do”

[nocturne dust]

For two, the toughness hit from ER hurts, yes, but is completely workable and often doesn't matter once you're auric-level because you'll either only take damage once (so no health damage because it only hits toughness) or die

Taking damage twice in a row quickly is the only situation in which ER hurts, but that's also super bad for you in Aurics/High Havocs.

The goal as Psyker is to not get hit

[ornate hamlet]

Oh damn I was planning to take a bunch of damage

you learn something new every day

but nah fr thank you

makes sense

[subtle harbor]

If you’re a bitch

[wicked hornet]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959 so I was reading this and it says for Havoc 2 health curios is better than 2 toughness but you can run 3 toughness.

[strong gulch]

It's what I do. Damage sponge. I refuse to learn lessons.

[ornate hamlet]

plus if I understand correctly psyker has a bajillion ways to build toughness

[nocturne dust]

To regen toughness, yes

but at the end of the day, your toughness is still crap and can be gone in an instant, unlike every other class

[subtle harbor]

Nobody can convince me to not be in the middle of the action as a psyker

[strong gulch]

If you can kill you can regen toughness. Quietude being the exception.

[nocturne dust]

Pretty much

Still angry about the mettle nerf

[subtle harbor]

I will play this shit like i’m Sienna Fuegonasus and nobody can stop me

[nocturne dust]

I mean, meleeker also wants to not get hit

You're no Unchained

[subtle harbor]

Not yet

[nocturne dust]

Fatshark could never

[strong gulch]

If you're used to unchained, take KD (kinetic deflection) on the tree.

[ornate hamlet]

• so quit it with the Scrier's pipe dream, I wasn't good at it anyways and it doesn't work with Trauma very well
• lean more towards blaze trauma
• use the greatsword when hordes lack more than 2 elites

is this all correct info to gather

[subtle harbor]

Void. You do not understand how little I care about my own well being and how little still I care about the enemy

[nocturne dust]

Yes but no

[strong gulch]

[ornate hamlet]

drat

[subtle harbor]

Already done. Combined with the deflection blessing and its godly

[ornate hamlet]

foiled again

[nocturne dust]

martyr Psyker?

[ornate hamlet]

please elaborate I'm uneducated

[nocturne dust]

Take crystalline will and wounds to blow them up

[subtle harbor]

Shit i should

[strong gulch]

Please tell me you have all stam curios for maximum godly silliness.

[subtle harbor]

I actually haven’t built my curios that much yet

[nocturne dust]

GS fairs fine against elites. Normally, you pair Voidblast with dueling sword, and when you knock over big guys like crushers you then run up and stab their heads with the sword while they're down. GS can fit in this niche because it's such an all-rounder.

[ornate hamlet]

would it be justified to just experiment with which I find more fun as well? Or is one that much better than the other

[nocturne dust]

In fact, on a staff build, you rarely take out your melee except to deal with specific targets

[strong gulch]

It's not meta, but it's hilarious.

[subtle harbor]

I don’t care about meta. I care about unchained-esque fun and if it works

[nocturne dust]

Like, really, Trauma only needs melee for mutants, bosses, and staggered crushers (and even then, it can just destroy crushers without melee due to the stagger)

[nocturne dust]

ER is much better than Inner Tranquility

Warp Siphon stacks disappear every time you use your ability, and shriek wants to be spammed, so you lose out on Inner Tranquility quite a lot.

Even when you have max stacks, it doesn't compare to ER

[strong gulch]

DS4 is the best at dealing with single target big threats like crushers. It's not even funny. It's even more reidiculous on other classes. That being said still experiment. FGS (force great sword) is slower but is a great all rounder option.

[subtle harbor]

Y’all think 2 wound curios is overkill?

[strong gulch]

Yes

[nocturne dust]

I mean, wound curios are memes

and memes only

[ornate hamlet]

not enough, use 3

[subtle harbor]

Got it, go for 3

[ornate hamlet]

my man

[nocturne dust]

(unless you're still figuring out the game)

but martyr psyker

[ornate hamlet]

rats in vermintide don't shoot at me

[strong gulch]

Rip stam meme dreams

[ornate hamlet]

it's like going from bugs to automatons

[nocturne dust]

slide

[ornate hamlet]

Wait does sliding make you immune to gunfire??

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/slide-slide-in-sliding-slide-into-the-weekend-skiing-gif-407618915429072131

[nocturne dust]

yes

[ornate hamlet]

holy shit.

[nocturne dust]

This was in the tutorial

[ornate hamlet]

this changes everything.

[nocturne dust]

[subtle harbor]

Bro bugs are so much fucking harder than automatins on higher difficulties. My friends laughed at me when i said i had a harder time on bugs. Then i took them on a helldive

[strong gulch]

Yeah dodge slide helps to dodge bullets and close the gap to put shooters into melee (not gunners tho they will keep shooting you).

[ornate hamlet]

I play whatever the MO is but I'd be lying if I said automatons weren't my favorite by a large margin

they're just so fun

[subtle harbor]

Real as fuck

[ornate hamlet]

like they explode

THEY EXPLODE

[strong gulch]

You can also quell or charge your secondary on staff while dodge sliding.

[nocturne dust]

I really, really hate that gunners aren't forced-staggered the moment melee touches them

[ornate hamlet]

lemme make another build rq then I'll have it reviewed

[strong gulch]

YOu also consume less stam that way and take less damage when hit.

[ornate hamlet]

this'll be assuming I'm level 30 (I'm not)

[subtle harbor]

Hm. I feel like stamina curios would be meh since i have the kinetic whatever talent

[nocturne dust]

If melee touches a gunner it should get knocked on its butt, carrying around that stupidly-large gun

[subtle harbor]

I’m gonna touch a gunner

On his peanits

[ornate hamlet]

do I still want solidity or do I get the weird ass puppeteer thing

[nocturne dust]

Solidity

[ornate hamlet]

ty

[nocturne dust]

Puppet Master is eh

[ornate hamlet]

and do I want In Fire Reborn or vamp

[strong gulch]

This is true. 1 +3 stam curio is more than enough even when you're spaming push attacks.

[ornate hamlet]

and please explain why

I'd like to understand this game

[nocturne dust]

Yes

[subtle harbor]

So you think i should go stam, health and toughness. Or double down somewhere?

[nocturne dust]

It depends on build and preference

[buoyant maple]

It’s kind of complicated

Empyric resolve drastically reduces peril generation (x0.6) in exchange of all of your toughness gains being x0.7

The downside is less apparent if you can negate most of toughness damage (empathic evasion) or have so much toughness gain that you can maintain 100% toughness frequency even when taking hits, or both

In base game difficulties it’s very much a “win more” talent, you don’t have to use it but it enables you to use warp powers more = more damage, but you’ll feel the downside if you’re forced to clutch in bad situations

In havoc however because everyone is squishy regardless of build (and psyker gets a quell speed reduction passive modifier), empyric resolve is basically free pick on the way to warp siphon

Also the other talent in the same row, Penetration of the Soul, is straight up not working (does nothing)

[flat shadow]

trauma with rending shockwave can be followed up with obscurus or deimos for like a two hit kill even in havoc

[nocturne dust]

In Fire Reborn is better on soulblaze heavy builds like Inferno and Fire Trauma, but Psychic Vampire is still more consistent for Fire Trauma

[nocturne dust]

Counterpoint: Havoc doesn't spawn anything in ones

[subtle harbor]

Well i got a fuckton of toughness generation shit so like. Might as well max that pool out

[nocturne dust]

Eeeehhhhhh

[flat shadow]

true, but you have 3 teammates hacking at things with presumably duelling swords

[subtle harbor]

And a lot of toughness resistance. So it seems like a no brainer

Unless sniper

[nocturne dust]

Sure, rending trauma isn't bad

[strong gulch]

Curios are really personal pref and will like changes as your playstyle and skill level change.

All I can say is the general rec is 200 hp and +1 sniper resist for non-havoc. That lets you eat a sniper and 2 bursters.

In havoc, HP is more your friend.

[ornate hamlet]

oh ok no images for me

[nocturne dust]

201 HP, specifically

[ornate hamlet]

one sec

It's probably because I'm new

[balmy kestrel]

Finally

[nocturne dust]

at 200 HP you will die to 4 poxbursters. At 201, you will die to 5

if I'm not mistaken

[balmy kestrel]

I have understood the peak of Voidstrike staff with good stats, warp nexus, crit chance, and surge

[subtle harbor]

So get to 201 health. Get sniper res. Dump the rest into toughness?

[balmy kestrel]

This staff is genuinely amazing

[subtle harbor]

Or also dump into health

[ornate hamlet]

Is this better?
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9dca9f6d-dfa6-4119-9eb7-f0362e9c61d4/ok-but-what-if?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

Or is Souldrinker a waste

[nocturne dust]

Toughness for aurics, health for Havoc is the normal recommendation. You can also go for a stamina curio if you want.

[ornate hamlet]

I'm not dropping lightning speed

[nocturne dust]

Souldrinker is a waste

[ornate hamlet]

I still wanna enjoy using greatsword

[buoyant maple]

Base game, 200+ health and one 20% sniper resist, everything else up to u

Havoc, Psyker will never have enough toughness to absorb a stalker burst (you’ll get chip health damage if hit by any ranged enemy if you’re not in a bubble or dodge state, basically) so you’re prob better off with health

[nocturne dust]

[ornate hamlet]

got it

[nocturne dust]

You should try it without lightning speed, it's perfectly fine without it

[ornate hamlet]

I'll try

[subtle harbor]

Is there any way to get 21% max health curios besides dumb luck?

[nocturne dust]

You're also missing perfect timing and KD, oofies

[strong gulch]

In Fire Reborn has more potential to give you a lot of warp charges back really quickly but also can just leave you will nothing. Vamp offers more consistency.

On fire trauma/ voiblast it's a toss up imo on which to pick. On purg/ inferno take In Fire Reborn. On surge staff/ EK take vamp.

[nocturne dust]

You do want the crit node above KD for Fire Trauma

[buoyant maple]

Be lucky, basically
But that 1% doesn’t matter for health breakpoints on psyker, there’s a really easy 10% health talent that’s almost always taken to get to warp rider anyway

You only need one health curio + one health curio perk

To get to >200 health on psyker

Compared to veteran who needs either 2 health curios or 1 curio + 3 perk

[ornate hamlet]

what's KD again

[nocturne dust]

Kinetic Deflection

[maiden oracle]

At 200+ hp you can tank a crusher overhead right

[ornate hamlet]

I need that?

[potent echo]

No...?

[nocturne dust]

No, the node above it

[ornate hamlet]

I guess 75% stamina reduction is good

[nocturne dust]

but KD is useful

[ornate hamlet]

oh that one

[potent echo]

I was referring to overhead

KD is great

[nocturne dust]

The node above it is +5% crit, which is very useful for blaze trauma

[buoyant maple]

No

[ornate hamlet]

welp at this point I just imitated the blaze trauma build that was shown earlier

I guess I'm using that lmao

origininality be damned

[potent echo]

Yes

[ornate hamlet]

alright I'll start working on that then

thank you for all the help y'all!

[strong gulch]

You can post photos now

[ornate hamlet]

I can?

[potent echo]

[ornate hamlet]

oh i can

how does that work

[potent echo]

Chat enough you became red

[ornate hamlet]

oh would you look at that

ok so between these two I gave up SOMETHING for empathetic evasion
posting this here so I can spam left arrow and figure it out

kinetic flayer

yeah I can live without kinetic flayer

is empathetic evasion worth that trade?

[nocturne dust]

EE is okay, but not all that great for fire trauma

[ornate hamlet]

or I could get something else

[nocturne dust]

Kinetic Flayer

[ornate hamlet]

please explain why

still learning

[nocturne dust]

Free PC + psykinetics proc

[potent echo]

No flayer

I'm anti flayer

[ornate hamlet]

someone just tell me what to think

[split lance]

KF s tier

[maiden oracle]

Oh ok so what’s the breakpoints at 200 hp

[ornate hamlet]

originality be damned it's kinetic flayer time

[maiden oracle]

Or is that just to compare with vet

[potent echo]

Burster/sniper

Burster does 100damage total at the epicenter

So with >200 you can survive burster after 1 down

[maiden oracle]

That reminds me of the time a burster blew me up into a second burster and the corruption damage instantly killed me

[potent echo]

Sniper does 90~ damage with 1x sniperResist

[maiden oracle]

Got it aight thanks

[buoyant maple]

2 sniper shot no down
3 burster hits no down

[potent echo]

112.5(?) without sniper resist

[maiden oracle]

I might run 2 tough 1 hp instead of 2 tough 1 stam at this rate

[buoyant maple]

Base is 122.5
With 20% resist it’s 98

[maiden oracle]

What are the sub stats in general btw

3 tough 3 hp 2 gun res 1 snip res?

I was told stamina regen wasn’t the play on psyker

[potent echo]

You don't really need stam regen

[verbal inlet]

is heavy laspistol full auto (can hold m1)?

[potent echo]

I take combat ability, team revive speed

[buoyant maple]

Stamina regen has some value because Psyker’s base regen delay is very short

But it’s not required

[buoyant maple]

No, semi auto
If you use full auto mod you can make it full auto

[plucky flax]

Keep flayer it's gud

[verbal inlet]

Is there a (without mods) full-auto that rolls Mobility and is faster/lighter than the recon 12?

[balmy kestrel]

Any advice for getting the maintain maximum warp charge stacks penance?

[buoyant maple]

No

Well, idk what “faster” are you talking about

[plucky flax]

Play higher difficulty for more elites and specials.

[buoyant maple]

Faster move speed?
Faster reload speed?
Faster firerate?

[potent echo]

Don't press F

[plucky flax]

I don't think you need to continuously hold max stack?

[subtle harbor]

What are the difference between aurics, havocs, and standard missions?

[balmy kestrel]

What’s f? I’m on pc but I don’t know what that’s bound to

[verbal inlet]

Running faster 🙂 I miss combat blade speed while trying out the greatsword, so I want my secondary to let me run fast but also I hate spamming left clicks lmao

[potent echo]

Your ability

[subtle harbor]

Ability

[balmy kestrel]

Oh, my 8

[buoyant maple]

Laspistol is faster sprint speed

[plucky flax]

Me I never press f

It's bad

[balmy kestrel]

Yes I have CA bound to 8

[subtle harbor]

Mmo mouse gang?

[potent echo]

Psyker dodge is faster than sprinting btw

Because we have the shortest dodge cooldown(?)

[plucky flax]

It's same as zealot I thinj

[verbal inlet]

Spamming dodge slide is faster than sprinting?

[plucky flax]

2 zoomers

[balmy kestrel]

Aye

[potent echo]

Dodge no slide

[verbal inlet]

wtf lmao so dodging sideways is faster than sprinting? xD

[potent echo]

You can pretty much beat everyone during the mission start race

[verbal inlet]

Probably not with big weapons like the greatsword or still true?

[plucky flax]

Yes especially with good dodge weapons like force swords

[potent echo]

Yea make sure you regenerate your dodges

[balmy kestrel]

By just spamming side dodge with like a knife?

[potent echo]

Greatsword probably not

Laspistol and forcesword and duelling sword yea

[subtle harbor]

Why must electro staff have 5 points leftover at level 20 Now i have a notification that will never go away

[potent echo]

But make sure you regenerate your dodges

[balmy kestrel]

I’m a vet main but I’ve been getting more into psyker lately

[potent echo]

Helps alot to have some dodge counter mod

[plucky flax]

That's cheating

[potent echo]

Ok hp bar mod

[plucky flax]

Bigger cheat

Me I never cheat. Vanilla gamer

[balmy kestrel]

You’re a part of the darktide modders server

[sturdy reef]

https://tenor.com/bLWm6.gif

[plucky flax]

Taste gold magic

Should give us gold magic in 40k as a psyker branch

Transmutation and turn a monster to gold

[balmy kestrel]

Touch of Midas

[strong gulch]

Just making an updated searchable post.

[radiant frigate]

they will never move again

[strong gulch]

Fire VoidBLAST/ VB/ Trauma (non-havoc)
havocs #psyker-class message

Flak + crit chance
warp nexus + blazing sprit
dump warp resist

Between the two main variants of VB / trauma, fire VB is stronger than rending shockwave + flurry VB (applies brittleness). Crits apply up to 6 SB (soulblaze) stacks which is enough to take out chaff, which lets you focus more on elites and specials, makes longer range blasts more forgiving, and helps snowball SB to work with PC (Perilous Combustion) and Shriek (Creeping Flames).

Mettle was nerfed and ER (Empyric Resolve) reduces toughness gen, so it can feel more fragile right now. Mettle for VB RMB fills the toughness bar in a single crit again. However, you will be relying on crit gambling if Mettle is your main bulk toughness generator. Another toughness gen node can offer more consistency.

It's a toss up between In Fire Reborn (IFR) vs Psychic Vampire (PV) for Fire VB. IFR has high potential for quick Warp Charge (WC) return; especially with Wildfire. PV offers more consistency. If you're doing rending shockwave + flurry trauma / VB, take PV.

Melee option should be good at single targets for boss DPS, picking off single crushers, and other elites. DS4 (dueling sword mk 4) fills that role while also providing mobility. Knife, deimos, etc also work well. It's preferable that melee provide good mobility.

Shriek often. 85% peril consistently gets you to a max of 6 SB stacks for Creeping Flames that can stack onto other SB. If you are a KD (kinetic deflection) enjoyer, you'll need to make a sacrifice. Points are at a premium because ofc. If your ability is consistently available before 5 Warp Charges, feel free to drop Warp Battery.

A core part of staff is quelling or charging / channeling the secondary action (RMB) while sliding. A slide can be performed by sprinting then crouching. Casting then quelling at high peril and maintaining it is know as peril edging.

[verbal inlet]

Whats a good target for item power at different difficulties? Trying to get my footing in Heresy/Damnation

[strong gulch]

Max your weapons unless you are low warp resist hunting.

[plucky flax]

Based blaze trauma guide. I subscribe

[nocturne dust]

I don't subscribe but I will stalk them anyway

[fathom adder]

So what even is the consensus on Wildfire now? Mandatory for anyone who even dabbles in fire? Or broken and worthless? Everyone seems to believe one or the other

[plucky flax]

Do what you want.

(I take it when I can)

[nocturne dust]

Wildfire good.

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/stephen-baden-sneaky-watching-gif-17636292

[nocturne dust]

But not mandatory

[strong gulch]

Yeah wildfire is good but not mandatory.

[potent echo]

Wildfire is okay with trauma because corpses get vaporised and they work instantly

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-snooping-sneak-hide-gif-13933020

[nocturne dust]

Excuse me?

[potent echo]

Wildfire doesn't work until the corpse disappears normally

[nocturne dust]

No

That's incorrect

[plucky flax]

Turn graphics to max for more corpses

[potent echo]

[plucky flax]

Wildfire strat

[potent echo]

I've heard so many takes on this

[nocturne dust]

Wildfire can proc a second time when the corpse disappears in the Psykhanium

cuz reasons

[potent echo]

In game you can get 4 stacks SB with wildfire+PC

[strong gulch]

Wildfire is VERY good at fecking over the other psyker on the team. Especially if you are a surge/ EK shriek and the other psyker is a purg/ inferno blaze away user.

[potent echo]

More fire is more gooder

[nocturne dust]

Than Blaze Away? eeeehhhh

Only Shriek and PC can possibly up that stack count higher than the benefits of Blaze Away on Purg, but the issue is things are dead by then

[split lance]

after having used purg i dont noticed when the warwp fire is stolen

[nocturne dust]

I notice it a ton

[split lance]

i only notice it in scoreboard

but not in game

[deft stump]

Explain why it dooks over the other?

Is it last hit related?

[nocturne dust]

First stack applier 'owns' all the damage

so their stats get applied

[deft stump]

Oh, that.

Is the bleed thing all over, I guess.

Watching 3 ppl try to get in the first hit so the bleed kill is theirs.

[nocturne dust]

Oh, also

[strong gulch]

YOu could apply only 1 stack before the purg user does the rest and keep the stacks up. They are continuously yours. lmao

[nocturne dust]

@zinc phoenix You don't need the push attack for the horizontal on the mk6, only the push

[deft stump]

Is the same for bleed.

[nocturne dust]

and actually, you can access that same horizontal on the mk8 the same way, by only using the push

I noticed because I realized I actually use the horizontal a ton

which means your logic about stamina to shore up the mk6's dependency on generating peril to access optimal combos is completely flawed

[deft stump]

So everyone speeds to be the first.

[strong gulch]

Makes sense that it works that way.

[deft stump]

Killfeed is a dopamine hit.

[strong gulch]

Never assume in this game even when it SEEMS sensible to do so.

[sullen whale]

Getting tired of mk8 never doing overhead when i charge attack so i think i gotta switch to mk6

[nocturne dust]

(also the horizontal does the exact same damage as diagonals)

[nocturne dust]

Embrace the superior mark

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1313803542196391936/elmopsyker.gif

[sullen whale]

well mk8 is just useless any time you need to heavy so yea

basically never does a strikedown

[nocturne dust]

Yes

I don't get why mk8 lovers say it flows better when you have to stop what you're doing and do a push attack just to get single target damage

[sullen whale]

wish mk6 didn't have so much gold on it 🤢

and then our only skins to buy are camo of course

they put camo on way too much

[nocturne dust]

Heretical

[broken carbon]

the overhead heavies are fine

[nocturne dust]

It's the Golden Throne, heretic

[broken carbon]

for most situations

you use your PA stab for specific enemies, where that stagger is nice

[fathom adder]

You could color the whole thing an obnoxious bright red (including the blade) that doesn't match the dark red of other cosmetics, and also cover it with orky checkerboard pattern because why the fuck not

[sullen whale]

all of psyker attacks are blue/white which doesn't go with gold is why i dont like gold. also the red dot on this staff

[nocturne dust]

sure

[fathom adder]

At least staff skins are interchangeable

[nocturne dust]

but could be better

like mk6 better

[sullen whale]

Thankfully, same for kickback/rumbler

[broken carbon]

mk6 stab could be better, like mk8 better

[sullen whale]

you have to do 2 useless heavies to even get to them most of the time is the problem.

[nocturne dust]

mk8 stab could be better, like mk6 better

[broken carbon]

huh

[nocturne dust]

Imagine being locked behind a push attack just to get the stab

imagine not having the stab be 50% of your combo

[broken carbon]

you don’t have to heavy twice to get to the overheads, h2 and h3 are looping overhead heavies

[sullen whale]

Yeah if you draw/slide/sprint and do a heavy you are now doing 2 slash heavies before strikedowns.

[nocturne dust]

[fathom adder]

I was using the Mk6 in a game earlier tonight and stabbing everything I could safely get away with stabbing, ended up doing like 400k actual damage and 600k overkill damage lmfao

[broken carbon]

i’m pretty sure you can push into overhead loops too

[sullen whale]

even ideal situation 1 useless heavy is terrible unless you're shoving which is slow too

[broken carbon]

the slash heavy isn’t useless

[sturdy reef]

shoving takes stam

[broken carbon]

it’s less damage but it’s not like it’s worthless

[sullen whale]

it does nothing to maulers/crushers etc

[broken carbon]

you have insanely fast stam regen on psyker, that’s not an issue

[broken carbon]

yes because that’s when you should be stabbing

[sturdy reef]

thats still less stam for kiting

which is important for horde management

[nocturne dust]

you can at the cost of 1 light first

[broken carbon]

you shouldn’t need stamina for kiting

[sturdy reef]

Id rather shove the wave than do shove attacks for elites

[fathom adder]

What if you're going so fast you can just sprint away

[sturdy reef]

to make use of the fgs range and cleave

[nocturne dust]

FGS could never 😭

[deft stump]

Great for confusing ppl at first glance.

[late sapphire]

It doesn't oneshot small elites

[sturdy reef]

the stab isnt hard to chain into

[sullen whale]

lots of mastery skins are different (set) marks too lol

[sturdy reef]

for mk6

[late sapphire]

The one reason i use mk6 over mk8 is because i know the first mk6 heavy will onetap anything small

[nocturne dust]

with the mk6, yes

[deft stump]

I know, but those are usually a little harder to tell than the staves, lul.

[sullen whale]

Yeah I use voidstrike skin on EK

[deft stump]

Staves are just, there's only 1 mark, but they all all interchangable.

Hilarity ensures.

[plucky flax]

Mk6 this mk8 that.

Just play whatever stop crying.

[nocturne dust]

I'll stop crying when Fatshark gives me more staves

😭

[plucky flax]

Look I can kill elites with mk6. I'm sure you can too with mk8
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1320616762487869511/Desktop_2024.12.23_-_11.57.29.04.mp4?ex=676a3fb4&is=6768ee34&hm=4b2ef01f0705ac0b6aff068120b34028c47baa724d36ec0eecfd7ccf92fdffae&

9 maulers 6 crushers 3 ragers

[sturdy reef]

what is this ubisoft ass UI

[plucky flax]

Built different (cheat)

[sturdy reef]

I mean I use mods too but lol

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/cars-numbers-never-lie-numbers-numbers-dont-lie-cars3-gif-22873701

[plucky flax]

It's okay you don't have to hate.

These mods are legal.

[sullen whale]

the "CLEAVE!!" is killing me

[nocturne dust]

I have that too

[plucky flax]

I am deaf.

[nocturne dust]

It's useless

[sturdy reef]

I aint hating

just too much for me

[nocturne dust]

It'll pop up when they're 20 feet away and overheading, lol

[plucky flax]

I am blind + deaf gamer.

Veri hard.

[nocturne dust]

What we don't see is your monitor converting pixels to braille

[plucky flax]

[deft stump]

Learn to speed read hard challenge mode?

[strong gulch]

@hearty wolf

Sin did save me.

[wooden flare]

Still trying to get used to Psyker, is this a good tree for a crit GS?

[sullen whale]

nvm, mk8 does flow better

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/weakness-disgusts-me-madara-uchiha-madara-naruto-weakness-disgust-me-gif-17219305

[nocturne dust]

no

[wooden flare]

Any recs to improve it?

I’m guessing on the lines of start over completely

[nocturne dust]

Take Precognition instead of Reality Anchor

Take Quietude instead of Warp Expenditure

Take something other than battle meditation

Soulstealer, maybe, or Perilous Combustion, or Tranquility through Slaughter for gunker

I also recommend taking assail over smite, but you can take smite if you really want I guess. The normal reason to do that though is to grab Psykinetic's Aura

[wooden flare]

Would Battle Meditation be better if it was a higher chance to proc or more peril quelled?

[nocturne dust]

Either/or. It's okay in Havoc where quell speeds are reduced by 85%, but outside that it's pretty memey

By Crack of Bone is a lot better for melee

and Tranquility through Slaughter is basically the end-all be-all quelling node for gunker (on Vraks/Recon)

[wooden flare]

Is this better

[nocturne dust]

[wooden flare]

I’m guessing I’d probably want a gun over a staff

[nocturne dust]

My personal preference is to dump the two side nodes of Scrier's Gaze since they aren't active during the lingering effect and I like to abuse that, but it's up to you.

[wooden flare]

Doing that allows me to get One with the Warp

[nocturne dust]

Eh. For meta, yes, but you can run a staff if you really want to.

[wooden flare]

so might as well

[nocturne dust]

And staves are obviously better in Havoc where ammo is so scarce

[wooden flare]

But this is meant to be a melee heavy build to begin with so my gun would be more the big red panic button than my go to tool

[nocturne dust]

Then yeah, that's how I use Vraks

I pull it out to ammo-dump into bosses and that's about it

[wooden flare]

See I’m a Double Barrel enjoyer lol

[fathom adder]

Movement speed is nice to have with the Greatsword and you get excellent uptime with "real" SG with By Rock of Crack + Warp Splitting

[wooden flare]

and I know it’s not the best option to use

But it’s a double barrel

Ya know I gotta rock the double barrel

[nocturne dust]

I hard disagree, By Crack of Bone is nice but you're still going to spend a lot of time outside Scrier's

[wooden flare]

Plus enemies run to you

[nocturne dust]

and the speed annoys me through its inconsistency

[wooden flare]

and for gunners:
a) you have a ranged empowered attack in GS

B) you have a gun

C) Assail

[nocturne dust]

Up to you. If you want to though, you should probably be a bit more gunker-y

Surety of Arms is normally a Double-barrel pick

[wooden flare]

Gunker is just gunk that was sent to the ER, Psyker Knight is where the fun is

Ok fine Surety does sound good

[nocturne dust]

🤷‍♂️ You do you. I just think DB kinda fights the same things as FGS.

[wooden flare]

I’ll prob go a Revolver or something to pick off long distance targets

[nocturne dust]

Valid. You can also use assail for that.

[fathom adder]

When it ends you're either out of intense combat or using Warp Unbound to throw ranged attacks

[wooden flare]

Real men just let the warp take them and kill enemies that way

If only self destruct Psyker was viable

[nocturne dust]

Sure, but 'out of intense combat' is 'not in immediate range of super thick horde'

or, you know, the elites show up and ruin your cleave plans

[nocturne dust]

which is actually when you need speed the most

running between targets, sliding towards new foes and under enemy fire

[wooden flare]

Imagine if we could have two combat abilities at once

[fathom adder]

Make Crystalline Will part of its own little branch and make Martyrdom Psyker real

[wooden flare]

Shriek and Drug mode combo

Zealots with the dash and invis

Vets with whatever cause all their stuff is just more boring versions of what others have

[fathom adder]

VoC is less boring than Choir purely because it doesn't CC yourself for its duration

[nocturne dust]

4 paths class trees

I actually prefer choir

because it gives me a break

https://tenor.com/view/eyes-chill-relax-mask-penguin-gif-6447559139219965680

[fathom adder]

Gives the old relic blade a chance to cool off I guess

[wooden flare]

Choir is the timeout ability

Also it can harass bosses off cliffs

And that’s always funny

[fathom adder]

When it doesn't have a safety handrail that stops us from ledging bosses but does nothing to stop us flying into the void when a barrel sends us flying at unnaturally high angles

[wooden flare]

Look where you launch smh

[fathom adder]

I am convinced that some combat designer at Fatshark seethed at how frequently we ledged monsters in VT2 and barrels are his revenge

[nocturne dust]

When the mutie ignores its programming and just launches you off the map

[wooden flare]

Imagine if we could launch bosses with barrels

A BoN flying off the map by a rinky dinky barrel

Speaking of bosses, fuck Chaos Spawn

Me and my homies hate Chaos Spawn

[fathom adder]

Would be extremely spicy to have an Unsanctioned Psyker 4th tree with a focus on actually having Corruption, high risk high reward etc. No idea what to do with other classes, especially with Ogryn still lacking their 3rd playstyle

[wooden flare]

Bullgryn is tanky Vet, we do what they do, just better

Also their fourth tree would totally be explosives

[nocturne dust]

Fast Oggie

[wooden flare]

Explosive melee, explosive explosives, explosive guns

[nocturne dust]

OGGIE SPRINTING AROUND AND DODGING LIKE A MANIAC

[wooden flare]

Ninja Ogryn

[fathom adder]

Make Grenadier Gauntlet Melee Great Again

[wooden flare]

MGGMGA, gonna be hard getting that to stick

[hearty wolf]

That was the scenario I was thinking about, looking at it from your angle, I'm surprised you lived LMAO

[fathom adder]

Give Ogryn a Shroudfield, heretics see nothing and wonder why there is extremely loud stomping and battle rattle rapidly approaching their location

[plucky flax]

Asian server hits different. Smooth havoc 40

[strong gulch]

Truly a miracle.

[plucky flax]

3 choir bois and me

[wooden flare]

The A-Men

🙏

[plucky flax]

Or is communion easy map?

Not like clandestium.

[compact cargo]

It's easyish

[nocturne dust]

Communion is easy

I like it

[compact cargo]

It can get a bit hairy with gas

[verbal thistle]

Communion is the easiest

[nocturne dust]

[wooden flare]

Carnival is my favorite tileset

both for the location

And the music

War Rider is an absolute bop

[compact cargo]

Gas spawns on communion are simply poorly thought out

[nocturne dust]

Not the easiest, it has enough bugs that it can just decide to screw you over more than usual

[wooden flare]

Helps Gauntlet is also there

[plucky flax]

Okay team wasn't that good it's just ez map.

[fathom adder]

At least you don't get pox burstered during the cutscene before the finale anymore

[strong gulch]

😭

[wooden flare]

Speaking of

That is one of the twins being resurrected in that mission right?

Or is that someone completely unrelated

[fathom adder]

Its one of the twins. I forget which

[wooden flare]

I’m gonna guess that twin is now dead dead

[fathom adder]

Sometimes the Admonition voice will say something about there being power in a sibling bond

[compact cargo]

Ranged guy

the annoying one that lays mines

The one you focus in hardmode

[fathom adder]

I forget if 40k Nurgle does undead or just living-infected. I know there is a major distinction in WH Fantasy

[wooden flare]

Thing with Nurgle is ending that cycle ain’t it?

Just endless pestilence?

[nocturne dust]

Nurgle is living horror, Necrons are undead horror

as it was foretold by some guy named Jeff

[wooden flare]

Orks are fun horror

[wooden flare]

I know it’s a different kind but perfect opportunity for this

POV: the Vet being grabbed by the Plague Ogryn

[hearty wolf]

I hope I have a Gloriana today for us to run @nocturne dust @strong gulch

That dog one was fun

[nocturne dust]

Today?

[deft stump]

So, Oggy's just crushers now?

[hearty wolf]

Today is reset, no?

[fathom adder]

Opposite problem, Crushers are very visible and very silent. They don't clank around and talk shit like Chaos Warriors did (I mean, they do but only when they're already on top of you)

[nocturne dust]

Mmmmmmmm, I don't pay attention to that

[hearty wolf]

I think it is. Otherwise we can do the Hourglass, blight spreads pox gas combo

[strong gulch]

Should be reset now. I got my weekly reward.

[nocturne dust]

I'ma go sleep Or try to

[strong gulch]

Also this is my havoc. Looks surprisingly not cursed.

[deft stump]

Well, either way, spoops gonna happen.

[hearty wolf]

Very rarely get throneside, wot

Think we only had two on sycorax before

[strong gulch]

Unlike carnival.

That one is up all of the time. Like take a nap party city.

[plucky flax]

Easy map too.

Should be easy tru survivor.

Tren survivor.

[split lance]

I’m going to touch you

I’m going to make slaanesh afraid of me when I’m done with you

Even nurgle is going to think “ew that’s nasty”

It’s going to be too twisted for tzeench

And far too dishonorable for khorn

[compact cargo]

What about the deciever, the nightbringer and Malal?

Oh and Nuffle

[plucky flax]

Sounds like a cute date.

[hearty wolf]

Tren's bottom energy is uncontested

[strong gulch]

purple burglar alarm

[plucky flax]

Tbh I play worse when team is good cos I assume they got my back and I won't get disabled.

[split lance]

We’re gonna hold hands and have a wonderful picnic. I made the whole meal from scratch

I’m gonna trace my fingers along your tattoos

[split lance]

Only bottoms say bottom energy

[split lance]

Who they

[compact cargo]

The other chaos gods

[thin knoll]

How would yall rework smite if you had to?

[split lance]

Oh. I only know the 4

Wait. Are they cannon?

Or fan made

[compact cargo]

Remove smite, make it electro staff m1
Jokes aside, prob don't allow to channel it

So you just, hold it for 3 seconds then knock em down
Or increase peril gain further

[compact cargo]

Malal is the only non-cannon one because of legal issues

Nuffle is bloodbowl related

[split lance]

Oh

Idk what blood bowl is

[compact cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/blood-bowl-leap-fail-sk-gif-26464055

Torture

tabletop American football

but with warhammer fantasy on it

Where the most ridiculous events happen daily

Since it's a contained universe too, you have as seen on the clip, old edition Amazons and Kislev Circus

Which neither exist in fantasy nowadays

[vernal temple]

oh hey, that's exactly the same mission I've got my TS from

[flat magnet]

Think like, an Electro ball you'd throw and arcs to a few enemies and stuns them for a few seconds would be cool.

Would still keep the "Crowd Control" aspect while maybe? not infringing on the other blitz's specialties

[vernal temple]

Archivum Sycorax is probably the easiest map for Havoc, since it's just one huge bottleneck with barely any open spaces

[strong gulch]

We keep getting fecked over because of whole team crashes and repeated DCs. Hopefully this time will be different.

Also if we whole team crash again, I hope the game doesn't do it at the end event AGAIN.

[vernal temple]

I'd love to help, but I'm at work rn

[strong gulch]

No worries. We have a team that's been running it.

Unless you can make the servers stable.

[flat magnet]

Largely irrelevant, but

What's everyone's thoughts on using Scriers Gaze in Havoc?

(Like 20+ more specifically.)

[vernal temple]

https://tenor.com/view/server-is-fine-burn-fire-spongebob-blow-gif-14178373

[potent echo]

20+ you can still run anything you want

It's still kinda possible to semi clutch with 2-3 operatives alive

[strong gulch]

Run what you want. High skilled players can get through any difficulty with any ole build.

More people are getting better at havoc, so more build diversity is going to happen.

[vernal temple]

having a bubble psyker or a chorus zealot would still be nice tho

[hearty wolf]

One thing is, we're playing as premade.

If you take random crap, people are probably not going to look favourably on it

Havoc suffers from an immense lack of skill

Sometimes you need to compensate and bubble is compensation for people not knowing how to break LoS

[strong gulch]

The only time I would SUPER judge a non bubble psyker is if that psyker said that they would bring bubble because the team needed it and then switches it up. That's a dick move.

I don't think psyker shoulf only be allowed to run bubble.

[hearty wolf]

Although tbh I actually do wonder about Scrier's efficacy in havoc. If you're going for damage, surely shriek makes a lot more sense?

[strong gulch]

Also just "I refuse to change what I'm doing" kind of thinking. I def take bubble because I don't mind it, it covers a skill issue (incuding communication), and lets me not think as hard about things.

[vernal temple]

I've grown to love the bubble because it blocks the puke attack of nurgle puppies and I hate those things with every fibber of my being

[compact cargo]

People need to realise 1 mitigation is enough for 40

Dps Psyker is incredibly handy

[strong gulch]

When we run 3+ psykers, someone has shriek and it does A LOT.

[compact cargo]

vent makes shooters irrelevant

[vernal temple]

what about script builds that run Scriers and just spam primary staff attack at 2000 rpm?

[flat magnet]

I play a pretty aggressive playstyle as Psyker (That I don't get from Zealot.), mostly with a Gun, so it's a tiny bit inconvienent to build up peril for the (6?) Soulflame stacks. Doable, but inconvenient.

Maybe I need to get better, but I just don't like Shriek. Would prefer the boost from Scriers

[strong gulch]

SB ignoring a lot of the damage mitigations and hitting a lot enemies.

[vernal temple]

I've seen one of those on havoc

[hearty wolf]

Just sounds cringe to me!

I wonder if I have enough dockets from havoc chest to get a proper fgs

I can't do maelstrom anymore to test things either

It's too hard

Enemies come from more directions than just single file into a purgatus choke

[vernal temple]

I have one of those Scriers LBM spam builds, but I can't be bothered to figure out how to install those crazy ass macros, so I just use the "make everything full auto" mod

[potent echo]

I don't actually know if the blaze is enough with the buffed HP

[compact cargo]

It is with the second one

[hearty wolf]

I would use that.

Tbh any game that doesn't have that in an accessibility setting is kinda meh to me

[compact cargo]

You have enough elite and special density to spam vent

[hearty wolf]

Borderlands 3 has destroyed my fingers permanently because of no accessibility settings like that

If you're giving me a weapon with no fire rate cap, but it's a single click for 30 bullets in a magazine

[strong gulch]

If not. We can do some regular T5s. IDK when ur usual hours are.

[hearty wolf]

I'm going to damage myself

[hearty wolf]

Uhh I finish work in 7ish hours

[vernal temple]

yeah I'm primarily using the full auto mod so as to not destroy my index finger. dunno how I've played over 600 hours just by constantly going click-click-click-click-click-click-click-click-click

[strong gulch]

Gotcha. "tomorrow" then

Laspistol unplayable without fullauto mod.

[hearty wolf]

Fr. It's genuinely dangerous. But then you end up doing something clearly not intended when you're doing 2 billion damage per second

[sullen whale]

huh?

[vernal temple]

nah, the full auto mod from nexus in nothing like the macro shit. you just hold LMB and attack at a normal speed as if you were just spamming LMB, it doesn't make your staff go brrrrt

[sullen whale]

Yep, love me EK lmb

praise fullauto mod

[hearty wolf]

That's perfectly fine with me. That's just normal accessibility functions. I'd download that probably.

[sullen whale]

I be giving most vets a run for their money with EK lmb

[hearty wolf]

The things I don't install are things that give me information that I shouldn't have.

The exceptions being bullet numbers of teammates because I'm not going to ask every time I see an ammo container.

Don't like dodge count either

[vernal temple]

I will say that sometimes the mod "breaks" and you need to quickly "double tap Q" for it to engage again

[hearty wolf]

I also don't have the Ult timer for other people because then I'll just wonder why people aren't pressing their ults

[sullen whale]

I think when it breaks on staff anyway a right click fixes it

[hearty wolf]

I think the next staff I want to use will be voidblast anyways

I tried EK but

M1m1m1m1

I want to blow shit up

[compact cargo]

Ful auto is to prevent carpal tunnel

And doesn't increase fire rate as hard as a multi press mouse

The Macro on the other hand cancels to increase fire rate massively

And can get you game banned

[potent echo]

Could you

I guess if enough people report you

Vacuum capsule

[vernal temple]

been using full auto mod for a few hundred hours by now, perfectly safe and fair to use

[vernal temple]

I wonder why would special issue ammunition need to be stored in a vacuum capsule

[flat magnet]

Vacuum Capsule!

[compact cargo]

People have already been

[radiant frigate]

lmb terrorists are having staff rights revoked?

splendid

[compact cargo]

So have been autoquell players who had their crutch removed

[native juniper]

Chat my friend wants to use this

what yall think

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9da51441-94cb-4d28-b4b7-c4d0211a37b3/grey-knight-psyker-smite-telekine-high-crit-tank-melee-bolter

I cant really give him much of an opinion

since im new

[compact cargo]

Smkyer

[native juniper]

Idk bro

He likes using smite since im running zealot

and just rush in

when he uses it

But its using a bolt pistol so im not sure

[vernal temple]

personally I've never seen a gyker with a bolt pistol

[marble crater]

Charge smite up, smite until you reach 85%+ peril, use venting shriek and keep smiting. Pair with illisi or force greatsword of your choice and elektro staff

[potent echo]

Gyker

[native juniper]

Hmm

Hes not that high level yet

Ill just tell him illisi

[marble crater]

What level is he and which difficulty mission do you two run?

[native juniper]

usually malice

since he doesnt have that good of gear

to run heresy properly

What blessings for greatsword or elektro staff

[marble crater]

Ah, smite won't be as good then. The more enemies there are the better it is

[sullen whale]

Absolutely going to LOSE MY MIND over cliffhanger penance

actual health risk