psyker-class

[ornate hamlet]

hm, I will test these builds out, thanks folks

[near wyvern]

You just enjoy spamming ults. Admit it.

[mossy oyster]

every soyker is a slave to psykinetics aura (they all like spamming ults)

but not everyone is admitting it

[thorn cedar]

i mean

[edgy garnet]

no

[thorn cedar]

assail doesnt use it

[edgy garnet]

This is what I ran for my True Survivor havoc

[sinful peak]

no ER

[edgy garnet]

"Soyker"

[edgy garnet]

Meh, I like toughness. I just need to quell a little more frequently is all, which is no biggie IMO

[near wyvern]

But you have constant bubble toughness gen AND EH

You don't need to stack that much gen

[edgy garnet]

[ornate hamlet]

what is ER?

[edgy garnet]

I was wrong, I don't go EH, I go Inner tranquility

[burnt gazelle]

emypric resonance

-40% peril gen, -30% toughness replenished

you get a lot less toughness back (and it's compounding cos you also get a lot less peril and quietitude is tied to peril)

otoh you can murder a lot more people with your staff in between quelling

[ornate hamlet]

I see, thanks

[edgy garnet]

pretty sure penetration of the soul is still bugged, which sucks

I am not super knowledgable on psyker, only have a couple hundred hours on it

[burnt gazelle]

kuli's guide says it's still bugged, at least

[sinful peak]

-85% quell speed sucks ass without er

[modern lintel]

That is almost my build, with just one change

[edgy garnet]

[modern lintel]

I got the video of the DD bug, killing a marked enemy and DD not being added. I will sort out the cut later

[gritty geyser]

why do people keep picking this

[sinful peak]

it's goated

and nothing better to pick

[strange jewel]

Stims stacks into eachother or they overwrite to the latest aplied?

[modern lintel]

Becaue it is amazing. The number of times, I has wiped out a crusher or something, it's amazing... with DD x15 and other buffs, it can one shot anything

[near wyvern]

There are tons of stuff that ate better picks

If it was a guaranteed proc we might have a proper discussion

[sinful peak]

this is what I run, nothing else I'd pick over it

[near wyvern]

Test in the grinder?

Essence harvest, empathic evasion

Or even battery

[burnt gazelle]

should probably do battery for havoc

[thorn cedar]

was it always called empathic evasion
cause ive been calling it emphatic evasion for ... this entire time

is my brain broke

[burnt gazelle]

i thiiiiiink it's been called that as long as i've been playing

[thorn cedar]

lmao

straight into senility for me

[burnt gazelle]

how is soulblaze in havoc anyway, i haven't bothered to test but i'm sure someone has

[thorn cedar]

... like in general?

[burnt gazelle]

blaze trauma

i know that purg is great in havoc

[thorn cedar]

blaze trauma does pretty well

unlike purg you can actually ranged left click

[burnt gazelle]

yeah idk if i wanna trust playing warp charges purg

except if i am playing with friends

i was playing blaze trauma in 20s/25s and it felt okay but i was wondering if i should have switched to flurry rend or smth

[unkempt patio]

EP smite underrated in here

[near wyvern]

The hardener skin modifier does not affect dot damage... so...

[near wyvern]

EP smite is not underrated, it's just that if you are the only psyker, the bubble is more important. If you have 2 psykers then one should go bubble spam and the other EP smite with creeping flames

[thorn cedar]

if you do this i will also leave your game

so boring ;_;

[unkempt patio]

EP smite synergizes great with bubble too

[near wyvern]

You want creeping flames for the extra damage and quell during EP

[unkempt patio]

So you’re saying most bubble users use a staff for aoe then?

Interesting

[late sapphire]

nothing changes

[burnt gazelle]

oh okay

[edgy garnet]

Look at this dooooode, doesn't want to blow up heretic brains.

[gritty geyser]

consistency > luck

[near wyvern]

I use trauma to keep the bubble clean

[edgy garnet]

fair, but when you are spamming purg staff, its gonna happen quicker than you think

[modern lintel]

A friend of mine done level 40 said it is designed for very few builds... and soulblaze is a must... BR, Purge and venting shriek

[burnt gazelle]

oh yeah everyone and their dad has been playing purg

but I was asking about trauma specifically

since less people are talking about playing trauma in 40s

[edgy garnet]

yes, cause DOTS arent affected by nurgle blessing or whatever its called that increases enemy resist

Trauma is viable, got my true survivor with it when my teammate was runnig it

Mars was trauma staff

[burnt gazelle]

they also get extra hp but I suppose that's more of an issue for surge shriek builds or smth who can't screenwipe chaff any more

whereas i cast trauma one more time with stupid cleave

[bold cape]

FS deletes smite from the game
humanity instantly becomes a type 3 civilization

[modern lintel]

Nope, just doesn't work... the other staves compared to the purge/infernus are just utterly useless... they just do not have the DPS, they don;t have blessing that apply britttal or give more damage... Teh amount of crit procs with purse is insane... The other staffs just nothing compared to it... Every build, every weapon should be viable at end game...

But the fact there are so few builds, highlights how unbalanced everything really is.

[sinful peak]

[bold cape]

uhhh

[analog agate]

Lol what?

[bold cape]

trauma goated

[sinful peak]

what is bro waffling about

[analog agate]

VB staff is really good in havoc 40

[burnt gazelle]

he's also been telling us about his issues killing poxwalkers with fully charged surge/void rmbs, so 🤷

[modern lintel]

I haven't done level 40 havok... but trauma is garbage apparently according to ma friend... It just aint good enough.

[tulip kettle]

Yup trauma is great I used it for true survivor

[bold cape]

only staff that id say isnt great for havoc is void

[burnt gazelle]

fs pls, make voidstrike OP again

[analog agate]

Maybe your friend is garbage then… I have done havoc 40 with VB

[bold cape]

you haven’t done havoc 40 and heard it from a single person
yea checks out lmao

[analog agate]

And it is good

[sinful peak]

me when I lie cause I'm bored

[tulip kettle]

EK is not so great at highest difficulties

TTK is just too high for a single target weapon

[bold cape]

form your own opinions through experience instead of parroting what someone else says

[analog agate]

Would love to see your friends build

[modern lintel]

Tough, that is the way it is... Go do a level 40 with ya traume then, if you can do it... Took an 1 hr 30 mins to do level 40, was insane.... 30 od chargers at time...

[sinful peak]

[bold cape]

did a 37/38 with 2 psykers both on trauma and it went just fine lmao

[summer prairie]

you can do 40 with whatever

[modern lintel]

He's a vet player... The guy he was playing with run a purge build

[tulip kettle]

I did true survivor with blaze trauma

[bold cape]

wait so the guy doesn’t even play psyker

[analog agate]

Both my true survivor and first 40 were with blaze VB… so yeah

[bold cape]

you got this from a random lmao

[analog agate]

And they took about 30 min.

[sinful peak]

skill issue I'm afraid

[modern lintel]

Whatever....

[analog agate]

Yeah… I need to give this up. This guy is either trolling, and/or bad and doesn’t understand the game

[burnt gazelle]

do you have that video of your fully charged voidstrike failing to kill a poxwalker yet

[stuck sinew]

Trauma is possibly the best staff for Havoc 40 lmao

[bold cape]

joined the discord today so makes sense lmao

[ripe obsidian]

Blaze Trauma >= Purgatus for Havoc 40

[analog agate]

Inferno is still better if you have guys who can deal with bulwarks/crushers

[tulip kettle]

Also agreeing with previous sentiment - if 2 psykers, one psyker with smite EP venting is great

[modern lintel]

So what? Only passing on what I have been told, by my friend...

So I really don't give F what you think... In fact, I would rather be diagnosed with cancer, than listen to the worthless dribble that is you.

[stuck sinew]

And ranged enemies

[analog agate]

The lack of Nurgle blessed enemies really make VB staff good though

[ripe obsidian]

Someone's salty.

[cyan portal]

Team with purga shriek AND trauma booble is an easy h40 win

[analog agate]

I fear when that modifier makes its way to havoc

[tulip kettle]

Yup and the ability reach out with lmb on trauma that purg can't reach

[bold cape]

now this is quality entertainment

[modern lintel]

Not salty at all, those be the facts.

[ripe obsidian]

Salty and denying it.

[thick valley]

[tulip kettle]

Facts that everyone disagrees with in the place where people know their shit

Interesting

[modern lintel]

🤣 🤣 🤣

You wished

[ripe obsidian]

?

[ornate hamlet]

whenever i get a bunch of low level mongrels applying to my high havoc party finders, i just accept them all, que up an uprising mission, and leave when it starts 😂

[ripe obsidian]

Arguments about the merits of Wildfire or Kinetic Flayer or Warp Battery at least make sense. Saying Trauma is bad is just a goofy take.

[bold cape]

trauma has been king a long time

and tbh if anything it shines in havoc

[ripe obsidian]

Trauma and Purgatus both shine in high Havoc because of the enemy density

[modern lintel]

On this I can't comment, I never really use trauma not my thing... Only passing on what my friend said.

[ripe obsidian]

Okay, that's fine. You can choose not to use Trauma.

[analog agate]

Doesn’t seem to be a troll based off of his history. Just misinformed with baddish takes. Though he is right that voidstrike is meh

[ripe obsidian]

But it's still goofy to say it's bad because a veteran player thinks it's bad.

[bold cape]

saying something is bad without using it ain’t it

[zinc phoenix]

it do but its tricky

[ripe obsidian]

Voidstrike, my abused beloved.

[zinc phoenix]

because IMO you need ER to play trauma in high havoc

[modern lintel]

Yup, that was my thinking for the purge... I run with a purge that stacks brittle...

[zinc phoenix]

which makes you a fragile little bitch

[ripe obsidian]

Purgatus with the brittleness blessing also isn't really ideal. That blessing works better on Zealot flamer, I believe.

Nexus/Blaze Away is the purgatus meta. More crits = more fire, more strength = burnier fire.

[bold cape]

have heard purg synergizes well with rending trauma

gonna try it later most likely

[ripe obsidian]

I run rending trauma when I am the secondary Psyker

Is a good time

[analog agate]

Having one of the rending perks on an inferno/VB is fine if you have two psykers

[modern lintel]

What I am running now.

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, less viable on solo psyker

But I also avoid taking soulblaze stuff when I am the secondary psyker.

[analog agate]

I haven’t gotten use out of rending trauma when by myself. I like nexus more. And flurry/rending really is meh overall

[quartz barn]

its because you cant see rending

so automatically feels underwhelming

plus its more for the team than yourself which is a double edged sword

[ripe obsidian]

Rending feels nice with the better debuff mod, so I can see the 40% rending stacks I've thrown on enemies

[burnt gazelle]

is that different to debuff indicator

[modern lintel]

It's more of a support blessing, its the people that are slapping and shooting your targets that get the benefit... It makes their job a whole lot easier

[steady yarrow]

I miss when voidstrike was king.

I'm not super fond of using trauma.

[modern lintel]

Me neither, just not my thing... I really like the original surge staff, that was fun, but the nuke the stun on it and changed the way it worked entirely... Now I can;t find a nice build for it.

[steady yarrow]

I've been using purg and it's not too bad. It has deceptively long range.

Purg/Shriek

[modern lintel]

Which remeinds me... Half the time the shot goes straight to the ground... and someone in the distance explodes.... Is this a bug or something... It's like it's aiming at the floor?

[steady yarrow]

With Trauma? I haven't run into that but I don't use it a lot.

[modern lintel]

Surge... the electric one

[steady yarrow]

Oh, maybe a visual bug?

The charge will def make something pop.

[modern lintel]

I dont know....

I also hat the way you can shoot and see through wire fencing etc... But you can't look at a target and apply a brainburst lol!

[late sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/jerboa-roingus-boing-boing-wtf-gif-22346929

look at this creature

[stuck sinew]

Is that a gerboa

[late sapphire]

creature

[modern lintel]

Something to do with over stacks of soulblaze IIRC.

[ornate hamlet]

whats better, a +5% ranged damage node or wildfire node?

[near wyvern]

Depends what you are doing and what weapons you use

[ornate hamlet]

1. no shit
2. purge staff

[patent mango]

powerful....

[near wyvern]

If you want to actively flame two fronts then wildfire is the way to go. If you just flame one spot ranged damage is better

[wheat seal]

was playing this build from the guide, the impression that venting shriek would be much better, often overloaded so quite difficult to use the smite talent @near wyvern

[near wyvern]

The smite is there only for poxbursters and crusher packs

[wheat seal]

oh okay

[ornate hamlet]

is there a list of possible missions for havoc?

its not the full roto is it

[ripe obsidian]

It is not.

[charred falcon]

I’m not sure if it’s ‘better’ per se, but I personally like Venting Shriek as a utility option and to enable you to fire off a burst of BALLS in an emergency

[zinc phoenix]

Being anal about team comp leads to such better outcomes

“I need u to do boss dps” “I need u to run purgatus” etc etc

[wheat seal]

how did you guys spent theses point? look's like most of weapons don't have the good stats in %

[marble crater]

It's easy to get perfect weapons now, so gambling on curios is how I used them

[hearty wolf]

Spent every single one on relics, none on weapons

[upper sun]

pfffff

its like you havent spent one week watching brunt 24/7

[marble crater]

I haven't looked at brunt or melk weapons since the crafting update

[upper sun]

same only for my new level 12 baby

btw

anyone wanna play in like 10 minutes?

[marble crater]

I will hopefully eat my pizza in 10 minutes

[upper sun]

ill finish cooking my gulash by then

[tulip kettle]

what servers you play on clad

[upper sun]

eu

u wanna join?

[tulip kettle]

might be about in 30 if you still have a slot then

[upper sun]

prolly

only stew and i play this game anymore....

[marble crater]

Everyone else is playing superhero

[tired ivy]

what content ya’ll doing?

[upper sun]

auric

[late oriole]

any good build for fire staff ?

[tired ivy]

i can join if youve got a spot, tho i hit 30 with my psyker like 3 days ago

[analog agate]

For regular or havoc?

[late oriole]

wdym ? you playing the same game in both modes

[upper sun]

sure

[late oriole]

im playing havoc mainly

[upper sun]

which keystone EP or warp charges?

[upper sun]

oh

[late oriole]

i think warp charges is better ?

[upper sun]

yeah warp charges is better for havoc

more bubbles

[maiden oracle]

How much havoc do I need to play to unlock the cosmetic

[late oriole]

you play fire staff with that build ?

[upper sun]

a lot

[analog agate]

Yes. This is my havoc 40 inferno build

[maiden oracle]

Like get to havoc 40 or something

[late oriole]

nice, i'll try it thanks

[marble crater]

Havoc builds are different from regular builds

[upper sun]

nah play havoc 100 times

[maiden oracle]

You gotta be shitting me

[late oriole]

and why ? i play with the same builds

[queen fog]

Ya but that’s only for one armor piece

You’ll still need to run a few havocs to “help” other operatives

[maiden oracle]

Wait so how exactly do I get the entire armor set

[late oriole]

just check the penances

[marble crater]

More reliance on cdr, bubbles, battle meditation for quelling. Rather health curios instead of toughness

[maiden oracle]

Can’t hop on rn

[late oriole]

i see

[maiden oracle]

That’s the entire reason why I’m asking here

[late oriole]

oh

you have to help others rejects, complete like 50 havoc missions i think and reach level 25

[buoyant maple]

50 games minimum

[maiden oracle]

Aw shit

If I’m solo queueing havocs would it be better to run chorus zealot or flame psyker

[buoyant maple]

Beat havoc 25
Complete 50 havoc missions
Complete 50 havoc missions started by other players

[maiden oracle]

Does the 3rd mission count if a member in my strike team starts the mission

Or do I need to join mid session

[burnt gazelle]

what third mission?

[buoyant maple]

Yes as long as it’s not you who started the mission

[maiden oracle]

Got it

[queen fog]

The 3rd penance path stated

[burnt gazelle]

oh right, yeah, lots of ppl are joining and not hosting now cos they're grinding that one lol

[upper sun]

@marble crater Im ready

and anyone else who wants to join you're more than welcome

[marble crater]

I'm not eating and then need to walk my dog still, so it will be a while longer for me

[upper sun]

😭

ill do a run without you then

the voices tell me its gonna be short so its fine just ping

[queen fog]

Best of luck clad

[marble crater]

Will be at least 30 minutes for me, can easily do a run

[dire orbit]

Question, so for the force greatsword is there a reason to pick the mk VIII over the mk VI?

[tulip kettle]

yes

[dire orbit]

Would you enlighten me as to why?

[tulip kettle]

move set preferences

[dire orbit]

Oh okay, thank ye

[tulip kettle]

slightly better performance vs chaff hordes

[radiant frigate]

the entire reason is moveset preferences

both have good horde clear and good elite damage

[tulip kettle]

agreed

though i think 6 is slightly better vs elites and 8 slightly better for horde clear

just based on that moveset

[radiant frigate]

basically the question is do you want bonk bonk or bonk shank

or boop bonk or boop shank

[charred falcon]

The Mk VIII also secretly still has access to the chad thrust attack - you just have to do the force push first

[tulip kettle]

precisely

can still stab for muties

and chain overheads for elites

just harder to access stabs

[buoyant maple]

better horde clear & better single target

[radiant frigate]

like i said, boop shank

[tulip kettle]

its not better single target tbh mk6 is

ahhh ofc kat

[buoyant maple]

it is better single target

[tulip kettle]

what makes you say that

[buoyant maple]

PA stab is higher dmg than mk6's H2 stab

[radiant frigate]

is it now

[dire orbit]

Thank you all, I’ve decided to go with the MKVIII

[buoyant maple]

it's like 200 higher dmg into carapace weakspot

[dire orbit]

Horde clear melee psyker go brrrr

[buoyant maple]

goes to 2.5k ish on crit

[prime elk]

#psyker-class message

[tulip kettle]

yup but again

move set ddifferences matter

[prime elk]

I thought stabs on mk6 and mk8 did the same damage until path corrected me lol

[radiant frigate]

same discussion as mk 2 vs mk 10 relic blade

it be moveset preference

[tulip kettle]

i think over say a 30 sec period in a group of elites the mk 6 is going to do slightly better

based on 0 numbers and vibes ofc

[buoyant maple]

that one is kind of preference (which PA u like more) but for force greatswords it's basically mk8 > mk6 in majority situations

[radiant frigate]

boop shank doing slightly more damage is offset by the fact that boop does no damage

i like both though

[prime elk]

Mk8 horde clear is substantially better

[tulip kettle]

yeah i agree with all of that

[prime elk]

And its single target is at worst, a bit behind mk6

[maiden oracle]

The choice between the relic blades is just “do you want a sick ass push attack stab or do you want a sick ass heavy uppercut”

[tulip kettle]

but then the mk6 still horde clears great

simply because of special attack

[mossy oyster]

people finding out mk8 PA poke does more than mk6 poke

[radiant frigate]

do you want hell yeah or hell yeah

[mossy oyster]

only took 10 years

crazy

wonder who found that first

[ripe obsidian]

I feel vindicated.

[tulip kettle]

what i really dislike

and im sorry to say it

ies the way when you sprint you hold the sword up by your shoulder pointed forward badassly

[radiant frigate]

do the lights on mk 8 do more damage too

[tulip kettle]

but then you attack from sprinting and dont stab

[prime elk]

It’s such a tease

[radiant frigate]

more shank when?

[tulip kettle]

its like

run that fucker through

H1 attack not chainable accessible only from sprinting

FS plz

[radiant frigate]

we do just be taking this position and then not shanking

smh

[mossy oyster]

ok but in that position they literally do 2 upwards slash attacks

(if its the exact weapon art im thinking of)

not really stabbing there either

I guess you can argue one of them is an upwards stab but still nothing straight forward

[radiant frigate]

different WA

this is greatsword of judgement

[mossy oyster]

aaah

[radiant frigate]

not claymore

[mossy oyster]

theres the difference

hard to tell off weapon looks alone (in DS3's case)

[young cliff]

Can I ask how it is the psyker's Greatsword usage on builds? I feel it doesn't make the cut to be main weapon (feels slow for the pay up) and some builds with focus on melee seems to aim on critical hit, favouring faster attacks, is the Greatsword then better used as space protection, reinforced by the wave being weak and not generating charge fast so it's more a stagger tool, ergo making the Mk VIII the better option for the class? Or I'm missing something?

[charred falcon]

GS of Jusgement?

[radiant frigate]

probably missing something

force greatsword is 100% main weapon material

it's the best we've ever had

it's like illisi if it kicked ass vs elites and bosses too

[young cliff]

The best when DS exists? Enlightenment me

[radiant frigate]

ds horde clear is serviceable at best

[mossy oyster]

one strong weapon existing doesnt nullify the existence of another strong weapon existing yknow

thats just silly

(DS is broken though yes)

[young cliff]

Yeah but he said "best we ever had" so I was confused

[maiden oracle]

Ds does have better single target but fgs is great at everything

[prime elk]

It’s best used as a primary weapon imo

[mossy oyster]

because it is

[radiant frigate]

ds4 as a standalone does not work on psyker

[mossy oyster]

FGS is unironically one of the "best" weapons soyker has ever had lmfao

[radiant frigate]

it does on zealot because lmao 70% crit

[young cliff]

How one build upon it? I'm just starting my ways in warp madness

[radiant frigate]

and a bazillion attack speed

[burnt gazelle]

rhs build

[prime elk]

All right side. Done.

[maiden oracle]

I run something like this

[young cliff]

Including the disrupt destiny key perk?

[prime elk]

Yah

[burnt gazelle]

I have something like this but i haven't played it that much

[mossy oyster]

FGS has Finesse modifier (it gets alot of abuse out of Scriers and DD Keystone)

crit and weakspot dmg all that

[young cliff]

So we are speaking Mk VI right? Think it's attacks are much beefier

[mossy oyster]

no

I use mk8

[maiden oracle]

Mk8

[mossy oyster]

both are good

[burnt gazelle]

it's moveset preference

[mossy oyster]

both abuse the same things with scriers/DD/finesse

[maiden oracle]

Should I loop heavy attacks or push attacks on bosses

[mossy oyster]

I push attack chunk with mk8

[maiden oracle]

Got it

[mossy oyster]

shits on BoNs the most you'll see

mmm yummy 40% poke

[young cliff]

I feel the heavies of Mk 6 are better but the normal attacks of 8 feel more capable to horde clear

[mossy oyster]

mk6 heaies only feel better because you get to the brain dead loop faster

Mk8 you have to do a few attacks to get there first

before you can loop strikedowns

[prime elk]

Me push attacking the ground when I hear a mutie around the corner

[young cliff]

Brainde...there is a loop? (Struggles in ogryn brain)

[mossy oyster]

but i prefer poke being behind a shove (that can literally stagger everything thats not a monstrosity)

[clear heath]

special -> poke on the mk6 is so nice though

[mossy oyster]

the defense/counterattack capability of shove -> poke is good

[prime elk]

I’ll admit that’s pretty nice

[clear heath]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1315913789044035604/fgs_ragers.mp4?ex=6765a9f7&is=67645877&hm=ce921f3697ab137a68148b4c8a1dc3955c9419b93711f9848bff1fa405083583&

[prime elk]

But mk8 does get special > overhead at least

[clear heath]

special staggers so well

[strange jewel]

What to choose for last point, Kinetic flayer or warp battery?

[upper sun]

the voices were wrong

[analog agate]

For what build?

[strange jewel]

Using this

[late sapphire]

I swapped off of kinetic flayer because it means i cant push a burster with the purg m1

(i killed myself shamefully in high havoc)

[marble crater]

I mean, you definitely can

[analog agate]

I do KF on both my builds and battery on my regular build

[strange jewel]

Wow I have never thought on that before, it can defo happen

[upper sun]

it can even happen with sword push

[late sapphire]

well this one i pushed straight into the afterlife

[upper sun]

sword PA that is

[queen fog]

Casually attempt to force push a burster

[late sapphire]

this implies lasgun special is the only ok shove

[queen fog]

Blows up due to kf

[strange jewel]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor Im using this, so which one should I use?

Flayer or warp charge

[late sapphire]

that is a link to the build editor my friend

[strange jewel]

It didnt save? pain

[young cliff]

That doesn't show any build

Ok the combo of special into stab from Mk6 looks dope

[upper sun]

mmmm SPLAT

[clear heath]

animal abuse

[young cliff]

So what properties the warp knives have? Should I avoid using it against an specific enemy type?

I don't think I have used it yet

[marble crater]

Warp knives? Assail? It's pretty bad against carapace

And Bulwarks because shield

[young cliff]

So anything that isn't armoured gets crystal therapy, and the others get the can opener (small or big)

[marble crater]

Middle keystone and assail is very fun if you run into a gunner or shotgunner group, you can basically kill them all in a few seconds

[radiant frigate]

woe, psychic dagger barrage be upon ye

[young cliff]

How the assail track?

[radiant frigate]

it goes where you look

[young cliff]

Can I toss it to curve cover?

Im usually just tossing them wildly, idk if it's tracking something or straight up missing

[tulip kettle]

you can toss it up and then look at something and it will go to the thing you look at

so like throw it over a bulwark then look at the bulwark and it will hit it and make it drop shield

[radiant frigate]

false and untrue (they will maintain their stance now)

[burnt gazelle]

yeah it got fixed

or, well, nerfed

[tulip kettle]

fair

not an assail enjoyer tbh

can it still not even with multiple?

[young cliff]

So assail doesn't stagger, just raw damage?

[marble crater]

@upper sun

[burnt gazelle]

it does stagger

[prime elk]

It does, just not big bois

[burnt gazelle]

it staggers ragers, for example

it doesn't stagger bulwarks now (at least with one knife) because they have more stagger resist than they used to

[prime elk]

If you’re using fgs you can open shields by just pushing anyway

[young cliff]

But what about a flurry of them? Those crystals seems to regen faster than what you can toss them

Really?

[modern lintel]

How does the surge staff work? Been told that it hits centre of mass, and doesn't hit weak spots, but can crit though?

[marble crater]

Then you are not throwing them fast enough

[tulip kettle]

true

for the charged attacks

lmb can hit anywhere of course and also crit

[young cliff]

I'm too slowly swinging my sword and making sure I don't explode

[prime elk]

Can crit

[burnt gazelle]

quick test: i kill him with assails before i stagger him

[young cliff]

So what is the strength of each Mk? It's just movement taste?

[prime elk]

Mk8 is better

[tulip kettle]

thats really fuckin weird

[burnt gazelle]

that's using RMB throw, maybe it's possible with lmbs but I can't get it to curve properly enough to be reliable

[young cliff]

Is there something Mk6 is better?

[prime elk]

Easier single target.

[tulip kettle]

i think just spam 2 straight up fast then rmb onto him

[prime elk]

But not necessarily better

[tulip kettle]

but anyway idrc assail is cheeks i just use it to clear extra trash and keep peril up if i use it

[burnt gazelle]

yeah, still no dice

[upper sun]

ur 53 minutes late

[maiden oracle]

does assail flinch maulers/crushers

[upper sun]

thats almost DB levels of lateness

[burnt gazelle]

no

[prime elk]

Pretty sure no

[burnt gazelle]

it just plinks off them

it used to do decent damage when assail weaving still worked

[maiden oracle]

got it

[marble crater]

I can't be late, I never gave a time I would be there

[upper sun]

🙄 running the game rn

[young cliff]

What about the maniacs with two weapons that charge you, but the ones that are caned, I assume you need to use the FGS for them because assail would be ineffective

[burnt gazelle]

nah assail is great vs them

[prime elk]

Assail works against them well

[maiden oracle]

they have flak armor its not carapace

assail works perfectly fine

[prime elk]

But you can use fgs against them as well

[modern lintel]

That is really really annoying... I really want to make the staff work for me... x6 warp charges, 93% peril, warp rider... It it still struggles to kill specials and elites... Chargers are tanky as F, but stuff like ragers etc and it struggles... Is it worth putting surge on so x2 hits on crit? instead of Warp flury?

[burnt gazelle]

you can just throw assail, do a combo

[maiden oracle]

if its a horde of them i like to throw out a couple assails before using a fgs special and cleaning up the rest

[marble crater]

Body is carapace now

[prime elk]

Well scab ragers have some carapace now

[maiden oracle]

i hate this place

[young cliff]

Ok folks, you have my gratitude, I think I have a good base to build my psyker now, thanks!

[burnt gazelle]

are you playing high level havoc

[modern lintel]

Normal damnation...

[tulip kettle]

i use it with +flak, +unyielding, surge and warp nexus

with a crit focussed tree

and spam lmb attacks

[upper sun]

@tulip kettle join up were in now

[maiden oracle]

what is surge again

[burnt gazelle]

if you're doing lmb then it's worth doing surge nexus, if you use rmb a lot surge flurry

[tulip kettle]

2 shots on crit

[marble crater]

@tired ivy did you still want to join clad and me?

[burnt gazelle]

the lmb build is much stronger atm, it's stupidly easy to go like 50% more damage than rest of your team

[late sapphire]

only 50% more?

[modern lintel]

I usually nexus and flury... 25% flak and carapace

[late sapphire]

if you aren't doing double damage GET OUT

[tulip kettle]

yeah well charged attacks kinda suck overall but theyre safe and good for opening bulwarks etc

but i use my sword for big stuff that gets close

[burnt gazelle]

they also stagger crusher trains etc

[tulip kettle]

charge attack to open bulwark

[analog agate]

EK rmb is dependent on crits for one shot breakpoints

[burnt gazelle]

the two main surge builds rn are shriek and scriers

[ornate hamlet]

what is it with warhammer and appealing to primarily autistic demographics?

[tulip kettle]

everything else gets my balls in its face

[silver mantle]

Painting

[upper sun]

normies have no taste

[silver mantle]

Trains

And trains

[late sapphire]

The actual warhammer game is i believe the most autistic game you can play on a tabletop

[ornate hamlet]

i know

[late sapphire]

It's the only one where you have to bring your own measuring tools

[modern lintel]

It's great for that, and it kills their over head too, saving yours or someone elses backside.... So surge is the way to go?

[burnt gazelle]

yeah I just lmb stuff to death most of the time

[sturdy reef]

for havok?

[burnt gazelle]

they're playing damnation

[sturdy reef]

inferno/surge/voidblast

[analog agate]

I wouldn’t use surge on EK staff if you are doing rmb build

[late sapphire]

surge staff

[upper sun]

were +1

anyone else wanna join?

[modern lintel]

Used play 0n an 8 by 5 table in ma bedroom... Bed was once a bunk bed, so had 4 equal heigh bed ends... 8 of us 3000 points each 2nd edition, 10:30 am start 01:00 finish, beers, happy and burger king

[burnt gazelle]

i would use EK staff with lmb but i mostly shoot lmb and only use rmb for bulwark/crusher, sometimes mauler if teammate is facing a train of overheads or smth

[zinc phoenix]

thats 3 weeks of 40 chests

[modern lintel]

Just in general... would be fine doing auric malstroms, havok doesn;t interest me really

[zinc phoenix]

being anal about team comp and calling positions >>> all

also the vet had an absolutely disgustingly efficient boss and reaper hunting build that i am 100% stealing

helbore lasgun beast

[young cliff]

Forgot to ask: what weapons are you all running alongside the FGS? And the FSword too

[modern lintel]

Would say yeah, but trrying to bet this build right

[burnt gazelle]

laspistol for mobility

[upper sun]

😭 we just got in

[zinc phoenix]

missing out, havoc is way better than aurics

fewer baddies, more tactics

love that the difficulty isnt "here are 20 muties at the same time every two minutes"

[burnt gazelle]

my group's not playing much currently but it should be fun since we have like a 95% winrate in maelstrom so new difficulty is on the money.

just wish they had more mixed mutators than just hyperlethal shooters

[young cliff]

The heavy laspistol right?

[analog agate]

Yes. The 2

[zinc phoenix]

i will say high havoc is a sometimes experience tho

you have to be on point and cant take meme builds

but mid 20s? thats good shit

when its high havoc time i pour some whisky, break out the trauma stick and get srs bznz

[modern lintel]

It's probably the randoms that put me off... I got 17 once, not played it since...

[zinc phoenix]

low havoc is moron central

it do be bad idk why

and unlike heresy or whatever its hard to solo carry the dummies

[cosmic sigil]

mid havoc is moron central 2

[zinc phoenix]

17 i can manage as the sole guy doing anything

[burnt gazelle]

yeah, I use the mk2 with something like flak+crit/unyielding perks.

dumdum as first blessing, you can run crit blessing/reassuringly accurate/infernus as the second blessing, ghost maybe if you didn't take EE for some reason

you do need to click fast, or use the full auto mod if you value health > gameplay

[zinc phoenix]

but at like 20-21... 😬 i need the team to do somethings

[modern lintel]

People over estimate their skills... I am trying to get ma build right, it's not feeling right so I wont try it.... Don;t like letting people down

[prime elk]

I run recon las personally but laspistol works well too

[zinc phoenix]

build is imo less important than ability to position yourself correctly and knowing how to read safe/not safe situations

[young cliff]

Ok, thanks mate

[burnt gazelle]

hmm yeah, recon las may be better if you don't have the full auto mod, I just love the zooooooom

[zinc phoenix]

i have seen some absolutely disgustingly good players mechanically with an excellent build who can survive solo for a long time but who are totally useless in high havoc because they dont understand how to team play or play a particular role

[modern lintel]

I get that, for me, I don't want to be thinking about my build, I want it to flow, so I can think about the tactics and positioning etc

[zinc phoenix]

like i had a psyker yesterday who was absolutely better than me mechanically and could outplay the team with a combat shotgun build

[analog agate]

I am probably going to start running my auric build for mid havocs because I need the killing potential for carrying shitters than the defensive bubble.

[zinc phoenix]

but also didnt teamplay, didnt solve the problems team actually had

so we lost every match even tho mechanically he was next level

[zinc phoenix]

i go with my fgs/sg/dd/assail murder build personally

[ripe obsidian]

For me, FGS/Bistol/Assail/Bubble/DD has had the best results

[analog agate]

Bad people in mid havocs don’t use the bubble anyways. They roam about getting shot in the back. And like lemmings, die one after another trying to save people.

[zinc phoenix]

today i had a team where everyone was solidly average skill wise but they played their roles and they stuck together so we won 39 and 40

[modern lintel]

I went +5% crit chance, 25 carapace, surge and nexus? Is this a good combo?

[zinc phoenix]

i mean... solidly average for someone who can make it to high havoc. there's a skill floor for reaching that

[burnt gazelle]

on surge?

[modern lintel]

on surge

[burnt gazelle]

on electrokinetic, i mean

i'd probably go +flak

[young cliff]

Straying away from the team is N°1 reason for rejects casualties

[cosmic sigil]

the best player i had for my havoc 40 was the zealot that did the least damage but was leading the team and making it stay in cohenrency (he was already 40 so that helped).

[zinc phoenix]

omg that drives me nuts when people lemming on a down. down has insane hp, you can let em tank for a bit

[modern lintel]

not the extra +5% as I usually run +25% flak and carapace.

[zinc phoenix]

next one is fighting boss on bridge

jfc

[burnt gazelle]

I'd probably go +crit over +carapace if you're playing EK

[zinc phoenix]

you can tell an experienced player by how much they fear ledges 😂

[burnt gazelle]

i've thrown a few havocs because i do things that are perfectly fine in aurics but are suicidal in havoc, not used to bad bubble decision making deciding whether we die.

in aurics i normally play it if my team are all really low level so i can use it to guarantee a save, and i mostly use it for that or to deny a flamer/trapper

[modern lintel]

If people run off and die, I wont go and save them... The group will get to them, if we can get to them... Their fault

[prime elk]

Yeah the laspistol mobility is superb on fgs builds

[burnt gazelle]

or killing slugs etc

[prime elk]

Both good options

[zinc phoenix]

In fairness the margin is very slim for mistakes

[young cliff]

You run faster with it or is that it has better stamina management?

[burnt gazelle]

you run faster with it out

[prime elk]

Both iirc

[modern lintel]

and keep the +flak... Thank you

[prime elk]

But it’s def faster

I also take all the movement speed nodes

[zinc phoenix]

We lost a round because I went elevator while rest of team didn’t. Since I was the primary cc with trauma and couldn’t see them they got overrun 🤦‍♀️ next round I was smarter 😂

[prime elk]

Just too good on psyker

[young cliff]

Ok, have to get one for my build then, I usually feel fairly slow and team leave me behind, ty

[prime elk]

Make sure to get the movement speed nodes too

You can get up to 60 percent bonus speed

[zinc phoenix]

But minor positioning errors in 35+ = wipe and I love that, it’s so intense

[young cliff]

Yeah when using the FGS I like to reach my target fast

[prime elk]

Exactly

[split lance]

I do too

[maiden oracle]

what is trauma again

is that the ground explosion

[burnt gazelle]

yeah it's been really fun

i was moderately carrying a team on metalfab 20 the other day, knew shooters were going to be behind us, and team was mostly 1wound. tried to drop my bubble while door was opening but forgot ability doesn't go through/had a cast delay if you're doing certain animations. didn't dodge because I thought dome would be instantly up, died from full toughness/hp and whole team executed by shooters from behind 😔

died a couple of times doing what would be really boring psyker clutches in auric, just executed by shooters cos i wasn't clean enough on slidesprints while breaking los

[tired ivy]

ah fuck, i would've but i went afk for a bit to make a snack

[split lance]

Yes

[modern lintel]

I am going for this build... I love the shield... but could run a a sheik and creeping flames, love that combo myself.

[zinc phoenix]

Yes, idk the new name 😂

[split lance]

What is this

Oh

Wait

I’m stupid

I thought you took sg and bubble (obviously you can’t do that) and was astonished

[zinc phoenix]

I would move the minor node that leads to EE over one and take TDR per peril while dropping 6 warp charge. Idk what that other warp charge perk is which means I don’t ever take it and don’t recommend it 😂

[analog agate]

You want warp rider

[zinc phoenix]

I’d also grab warp rider

[burnt gazelle]

I'd recommend taking vent or scriers over shield with EK

[modern lintel]

Okay give me a min

[split lance]

Wait this is with ek staff?

[analog agate]

Ya he is doing a lmb build

I guess

[split lance]

Oh

[modern lintel]

Yes

[split lance]

🤮

[split lance]

Rmb?

Or lmb ?

[analog agate]

Pretty sure he is using surge

[modern lintel]

rmb

[modern lintel]

I loves me purple confetti

[split lance]

Yeah. Dont run bubble or SG. EK shines best and brightest with shriek. Like it’s not even close

[analog agate]

Fyi, surge is for lmb build

[burnt gazelle]

^

[modern lintel]

?

[analog agate]

So if you do rmb you were right with flurry and nexus

[modern lintel]

just out of curiosity

[burnt gazelle]

the surge blessing

is for lmb builds

this is something like an RMB EK build

[split lance]

God I hate the staff name changes

[analog agate]

It is because surge only works for your lmb shot, unfortunately. Not charged

Which is too bad

[split lance]

NO KF is wild

[analog agate]

Cause EK would really fuck then

[burnt gazelle]

for RMB?

[analog agate]

You can either go the BB route for KF on EK or do what Agent does and pick smite

[split lance]

Agent doesn’t pick smite?

[analog agate]

Ya he does

[split lance]

He’s a KF guy

[zinc phoenix]

Also works as trauma/burgatus/etc

[analog agate]

With EK?

[split lance]

Pre KF he took smite

[analog agate]

Gotcha

[split lance]

I’ve studied his gameplay like a kid studies Kobe lmao

[zinc phoenix]

I’d personally drop 6 warp charge for kf

[split lance]

Yeah

[zinc phoenix]

It occasionally bopping a dog in flight is pretty dope

[split lance]

Tbh 6 isn’t even all that good tbh

Barely noticeable difference

[zinc phoenix]

That’s kinda weird 😂

[burnt gazelle]

oh oops, I had that on because I was originally making an lmb build before he said he plays rmb and forgot to remove it

[split lance]

My names tren. Its to be expected something about me is weird

[zinc phoenix]

Anyway agent isn’t great because of the build, he’s great because he matches keen tactical sense with excellent mechanical skills

Man knows where to stand when and clicks fast

[burnt gazelle]

does kf have a chance to proc each damage instance of the rmb?

[split lance]

I have impeccable mechanical skills. I have 0 game sense

[split lance]

Yes

[burnt gazelle]

ohhh

[split lance]

So you’ll get like 2 gunners for the price of one

[zinc phoenix]

Well don’t worry you are in great company as a lot of the high havoc community shares those attributes lol

[burnt gazelle]

yeah that makes it worth it i think

[split lance]

And stuff like that

[split lance]

Lmao

[zinc phoenix]

I’d rate myself pretty mid mechanically but pretty good on game sense

[split lance]

My in game aim is so much better than my kovaaks scores

It’s almost painful

[burnt gazelle]

i'#m so glad that fs had spent months training auric players to no brain kill chase and now has added the teamplay mode

[split lance]

For game sense I just needa put in more hours.

Which. Not gonna do

[modern lintel]

Gone with shriek

[zinc phoenix]

I think it’s more analyzing why you died and what you could have done differently to prevent it

[burnt gazelle]

ideally, ingame aim is mostly game sense with a minimal of actually exercising the things you do in kovaaks

[zinc phoenix]

Every time I die I do a quick recap of what the root action was that got me killed and why I took it

[split lance]

Go with vampire. Itll be more consistent. Take left node with purg only

[split lance]

Oh bro. Just blame ur team. Smh smh

[radiant frigate]

usually the verdict is skull issue

[burnt gazelle]

you set yourself up for easy shots in fps games when you can, kovaaks mechanical skills only really comes into it when you fucked that part up or someone outplayed you

[analog agate]

⬆️

[burnt gazelle]

there are so many people who are like god tier apex 1v1 duellers who are awful at fighting in the actual BR

[split lance]

I mean I have friends that have actual good aim. And they just don’t miss

It’s unfair

Lmao

But then they rely on it too much

[burnt gazelle]

yeah some people are just turbocracked, but they have both, tbh. like a billion hours in game sense and aim

[modern lintel]

That is what I normally do, usually, someone mentioned it earlier as I though it was you only, but it is everyone that kills something with soulfire

[split lance]

Also. Why crit aura? Youre squad got the other 2?

[analog agate]

I have played cs since I was 10. And fps since then. Having good aim is a very nice skill to have

[tulip kettle]

more crits gud

[analog agate]

My wife is very impressed

[split lance]

Ye but you don’t need crit aura on EK

[modern lintel]

forgot not running surge anymore XD Cheers for that 😄

[burnt gazelle]

you can run in fire reborn on purgatus and on blaze trauma, everyone else takes psychic vampire.

lmb EK doesn't really need either in the games i've played because it can just monopolise elite kills really easily

[split lance]

It’s harder to not crit

[tulip kettle]

dont need for sure

[split lance]

I don’t even take it on blaze trauma. It still doesn’t feel reliable enough

[analog agate]

That is my EK build

[tulip kettle]

but you also get so much CDR from PA that you dont really need that either

[analog agate]

Since we literally pick apart everyones builds till they are all the same

[zinc phoenix]

A truly skilled player carries the team and never dies so it’s definitely skill issue on my part 😞

[upper sun]

yes

[split lance]

It’s not free. You lose out on cdr. More cdr. More shriek. More ded

[split lance]

That’s how I am. But vocally. Its my teams fault

[split lance]

True

[upper sun]

+1

anyone wanna join?

[sturdy reef]

join what

[upper sun]

auric

game

[analog agate]

At work 😕

[sturdy reef]

sure

[tulip kettle]

just mael bing chillin

[sturdy reef]

Ill do one

thats all my lunch hour left

[upper sun]

@tulip kettleoopsie

[modern lintel]

Okay.... This is exactly my first build XD

[upper sun]

i clicked join instead of invite

rejoin me 😭

[marble crater]

[sturdy reef]

lol

[split lance]

Take off the left node on siphon. Put it towards the one above KD and it’s perfect

lol

[zinc phoenix]

I think that’s just the reality of the skill tree system. Some nodes are strictly superior to all alternatives and getting them requires taking other nodes that are locally superior to the alternatives

[burnt gazelle]

I prob wouldn't take inner tranquility on a purg build, it already doesn't build up peril very fast

and building up peril on demand is a nice resource on psyker since you want 85%+ shriek

[zinc phoenix]

If it’s high havoc I’d take ER, if it isn’t I’d skip

[split lance]

Yeah same

[zinc phoenix]

The toughness penalty requires a LOT of effort to play around

[split lance]

With purg I shriek at low peril

[analog agate]

I always take ER. Other node sucks and ER allows you to skip tranq if you want

[split lance]

Just enough to stagger

[sturdy reef]

my main purgatus build is freakish

weird

insane even

[zinc phoenix]

I hope they add more missions to havoc, I miss archivum sycorax

[split lance]

ok

[split lance]

Yeah it got really boring doing carnival 9 times in a row

[zinc phoenix]

Yep

And carnival is a great mission!

[burnt gazelle]

Hmm, I should probably do that more. My vent purg play can use some refining

[zinc phoenix]

Imagine if it was the assassination missions like in beta 😂

[split lance]

I play. All builds the exact same

[zinc phoenix]

Literally only thing we could play for months was two assassination missions 😂

[analog agate]

I still really like them

[split lance]

I wasn’t here for beta

[modern lintel]

KD?

[burnt gazelle]

kinetic deflection

[split lance]

Kinetic deflection.

[mental rock]

Wasn't chasm logistratum and the torrent in beta aswell?

[burnt gazelle]

they want you to grab the 5% crit node

[zinc phoenix]

Well you missed out on a dumb hat no one wears and some gameplay that came back with havoc

[analog agate]

We only speak in abbreviations and acronyms here

[burnt gazelle]

on the right hand side of the last horizontal line

[split lance]

I’ve seen it. It’s awful. Lmao

Big ole b

[analog agate]

I wear it when I want to flex my superiority. And wear the dumbest shit possible with it

[zinc phoenix]

Gotta tell the world you’re a beta cuck

😂

[split lance]

To do that I wear reject title

[analog agate]

Helmet looks so dumb

[split lance]

Fr. Is it a flex or a way to get bullied

[analog agate]

Really a well deserved meme it became

[split lance]

How many hours do yall got

[modern lintel]

This is almost how I always try and build my surge Psyker... So I was right to begin with.

Really wanted Disrupt Destiny to work... with bonus to dam, weak, and crit damages.

[analog agate]

1650 or so

[split lance]

If you’ve been playing since beta

[zinc phoenix]

Under a thousand for sure

[near wyvern]

Excuse me? I use it all the time when I gunker around. B tier veteran helmet.

[radiant frigate]

i have around 950

[split lance]

Oh. You don’t have to take it. But the node right before it is great

lol

[zinc phoenix]

700hrs

[split lance]

I’m in this discord chat more than I’m in the game

[zinc phoenix]

I’m doing baby stuff massively more than I play

[analog agate]

Let’s be real though. I bet they are inflated because of how we used to acquire weapons. Leaving our guys logged in and checking the store every hour. Before the browser extension

[modern lintel]

It's fine... I just wish you could weak spot hits with teh surge... seeing as it would fry the heart...

[radiant frigate]

anyway siblings force greatsword came to remind you that sufficiently advanced swordsmanship is indistinguishable from magic

[zinc phoenix]

Oh lawd I just didn’t bother

[split lance]

Oh i definitely have a lot of afk hours too. I used to leave the game open when I’d go to the gym or anywhere really

I wish there was a way to tell active hours

[analog agate]

Kids these days have it too easy

[clear heath]

1300 but i took a break for half a year

[nocturne dust]

You have to take it

If you don't you aren't a real psyker

[split lance]

I’m a fake then

[nocturne dust]

Yes

[split lance]

Ok

[near wyvern]

Tren is nothing but a dream

[split lance]

Fr

I’m not even real

[zinc phoenix]

You can absolutely use DD, it’s great

You’ll have to make compromises elsewhere but DD lets you play in a flexible style

[analog agate]

https://tenor.com/view/arwen-dream-gif-21058524

[split lance]

Could be us

[near wyvern]

My mind will explode from this dream

[zinc phoenix]

@clear heath has a fgs build that uses zap stick with smite bubble dd

It’s pretty solid altho playing it in high havoc can be very tricky

[split lance]

[clear heath]

yeah it takes some effort

i tried playing it in high ping a few times recently and got destroyed

[zinc phoenix]

The biggest issue with it imo is that infinite cleave is just massively more useful in high havoc that

[near wyvern]

A build without effort is a True Survivor on my account.

-EP Smite Psyker

[clear heath]

technically the fgs special has infinite cleave

[zinc phoenix]

That’s fair

[modern lintel]

This is for purge staff with BR build I have been trying works great in auric

[clear heath]

realistically the ceiling on damage for my build isn't gonna be as high as inferno/voidblast, but it does enough and doesn't give up any team utility

[modern lintel]

That was the build I was having problems with earlier in the thread... the 10 sec could down wasn;t showing in the buff/active bar... Stuff was talking far to long to kill, something is bugged or not right.

[nocturne dust]

I mean, you almost match my purg damage pretty consistently

[clear heath]

You're also kinda buffing my damage with rending tbf

[nocturne dust]

Yes

Pen Flame cool

[split lance]

@lethal lagoon

[split lance]

Now you match my purg damage

(I’m going to steal even more warpfire)

[nocturne dust]

I outdo your purg damage what do you mean

[split lance]

Do you?

Are you sure about that

[nocturne dust]

When you're not stealing my warpfire, very sure

[split lance]

I shan’t believe it

[nocturne dust]

[split lance]

Idk man

I’m pretty sure mine was higher

Even just ranged damage

[nocturne dust]

Now that is super sus

[split lance]

How

[nocturne dust]

I run pen flame

[split lance]

Exactly I run blaze. That’s insta more damage

And

[nocturne dust]

I run that too, numbtie

[split lance]

I’m ahead of you so I’m going to be hitting more enemies anyway

[clear heath]

but your pen flame is buffing his damage damage too

so tren basically has 3 blessings

[nocturne dust]

also we haven't run double purg together

[clear heath]

because you're giving him yours

[split lance]

True but

[nocturne dust]

wat, u gonna say your EK staff outdamages me?

[split lance]

No?

I mean it does

[nocturne dust]

[split lance]

I was gonna say I get top dmg with purg when I use it

[nocturne dust]

Cuz you steal warpfire like a coward

[split lance]

I shriek at 83-100

[modern lintel]

This was the build I was trying to go with a DD and surge staff build... with massive burst damage with BR

[nocturne dust]

No, I definitely was higher than you when you used purg

and I was on EK

[split lance]

We play. I’ll use purg again

But I remember. I topped damage

And I was very upset

Bc I was on purg

[nocturne dust]

In Havoc maybe

[clear heath]

kinda weird ngl

[split lance]

I just didn’t vocalize anything bc I didn’t want to be mean

[nocturne dust]

because I'm on trauma

[split lance]

We do a mael then

[nocturne dust]

and trying to keep you alive murcs my damage

[split lance]

Trauma is the easiest staff to get over a mil dmg with

[nocturne dust]

no, no it isn't

[split lance]

Yes it is

[bold cape]

see your problem was trying to keep tren alive, preventing the inevitable

[nocturne dust]

💀

Stop perpetuating false information Tren

[split lance]

Trauma blast just does so much damage

[analog agate]

It’s great seeing tren talk shit and knowing how he plays

[split lance]

This isn’t even an unpopular opinion????

[nocturne dust]

it is

wtf u mean

[modern lintel]

Purge peril quicker

[nocturne dust]

who has ever agreed with you

[split lance]

You can’t out damage me when I’m dead for half the game

[nocturne dust]

Next time just leave him dead

[split lance]

Wait the emoji looks better full size

There we go

[split lance]

Do it

[nocturne dust]

Idk, game seems to take pity on you and spawn you close a lot

[split lance]

I’m special like that

[nocturne dust]

I get spawned like 3 respawn points away 😭

[clear heath]

tren has calculated his deaths to optimize for respawns

[split lance]

Exactly

And then I can just cope I have less hours on the game

Or even more cope

Less true levels

[upper sun]

stu i am gonna have stew @@marble crater

[nocturne dust]

wat kinda stew

[upper sun]

my favorite stuff i found in the supermarket at a discount

[marble crater]

@tulip kettle now we are alone

[bold cape]

kinda wanna go get a gyro

[upper sun]

which today was onions beef paprika carrots

[upper sun]

no

[split lance]

Inv

[upper sun]

stew

spend 3 hours making food instead of eating

[bold cape]

i have all day but i also really dont feel like it

[marble crater]

[split lance]

Ok then

Nvm

[upper sun]

i spent 3 hours making a winter stew in a dorm kitchen

all the lazy students making eggs for dinner

i PITTY THEM

[split lance]

What is it about stew that you like?

I hate stew

[marble crater]

You are not even online to be invited

[upper sun]

its comfy

[split lance]

I hate boiled meat

[upper sun]

makes u feel warm

and its yummy

wtf

[bold cape]

your opinions are horrible

[upper sun]

you dont boil meat for stews

you give it a bit of a crust on a pan

[split lance]

Lemme rephrase

[upper sun]

then

stew it

[nocturne dust]

don't boil it

[split lance]

I hate boiled anything

[sturdy reef]

Try beef burgundy

[upper sun]

do you hate tea?

[split lance]

It still gets boiled

[tulip kettle]

are you joining tren?

[nocturne dust]

don't boil it then mfer

[analog agate]

Bagels?

[split lance]

Got off. Ur mean

[nocturne dust]

[upper sun]

no no wait

i got trin

[split lance]

Tea is drink. Not food. Smh smh

[upper sun]

his brain has ptsd from eating 30 boiled eggs for breakfast for months on end

[upper sun]

still boiled

[nocturne dust]

anything

[split lance]

I did

And I hate eggs

[nocturne dust]

not food

[upper sun]

🚬 gosh im so smart

[nocturne dust]

Anything is anything

[split lance]

Semantics

🥱

[nocturne dust]

correct

Next question

[split lance]

Where was the first question

[nocturne dust]

no idea

you tell me

[split lance]

I’ll help you look

[upper sun]

https://rtl1.hu/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/Ismerjuk-meg-a-gulyasleves-tortenetet-a-Szakacsmuhely-segitsegevel.jpg

cmon

[nocturne dust]

found it

[upper sun]

look at this

[nocturne dust]

🤤

[split lance]

I know exactly how this tastes just looking at it

[upper sun]

yes

like LOVE

and happiness

[split lance]

It upsets me

[nocturne dust]

like potatoes and meat

[upper sun]

and a hug

[nocturne dust]

[bold cape]

that looks so fucking good not even gonna lie

[split lance]

[tulip kettle]

stew is pretty mid

[split lance]

Facts

On gof

No cap

And this is coming from a guy that eats at least a kg of chicken breasts a day

[tulip kettle]

those fat ball dumpling things

heck no

[bold cape]

huh

[split lance]

I’m a general hater of most soups tho

[bold cape]

soup is literally like
top tier food

you can do anything with it

and its peak

[split lance]

No it’s not

[bold cape]

its easy
its delicious
it doesnt make you feel like garbage after you eat it

[upper sun]

soup is nice

[split lance]

Soup always makes me feel like garbage

[upper sun]

i had pea and chicken soup that was life cheanging