ill make a reddit post abt u
#psyker-class
ornate hamlet
vernal temple
So..an ogryn! 
split lance
So..an ogryn! <:chadgryn:1161142998214656090>
No. I’m not that big and strong
split lance
you dont want me to make a reddit post about you
Im perma banned on Reddit
You don’t wanna mess with me
vernal temple
No. I’m not that big and strong
The more important question is what type of ogryn are you? The bodyguard? The brawler or the bully? 
nocturne dust
bully
thick venture
I was wondering what the best Force Sword Masteries are
thick venture
Are all of them good?
I'm new and trying to learn
strong gulch
not blazing spirit or bloodthirsty on FS
nocturne dust
Idk wat you mean by masteries
thick venture
Its all a little overwhelming
split lance
The more important question is what type of ogryn are you? The bodyguard? The br...
bodyguard/brawler. im a gentle lill guy, but i also won a couple high ranking awards for wrestling so
thick venture
Idk wat you mean by masteries
Like uncanny strike?
ripe obsidian
I think I just carried 2 people from like 29 up to 40.
vernal temple
Idk wat you mean by masteries
probably blessings
modest patrol
Greetings siblings, how fare ye all today?
nocturne dust
Like uncanny strike?
Uncanny, slaughterer
thick venture
probably blessings
Its under the masteries tab
nocturne dust
are the two best blessings
split lance
nocturne dust
Deflector is a major preference pick but some people like it enough to run it.
split lance
someone gimme a vod review
vernal temple
bodyguard/brawler. im a gentle lill guy, but i also won a couple high ranking aw...
Top shelf, extra rashuns for ya
ornate hamlet
someone gimme a vod review
i just got done making a reddit post about you, how do you feel now?
split lance
i just got done making a reddit post about you, how do you feel now?
link it
ripe obsidian
Yeah, one was 29 and the other was 34.
thick venture
Deflector is a major preference pick but some people like it enough to run it.
Is that to good to be true?
Am I reading that right?
strong gulch
Its all a little overwhelming
This video will break things down on crafting and masteries. When actually building a weapon, blessings and perks are the things to really ask questions on and how they work with your kit.
https://youtu.be/pxShYmKrKFg?si=GL1fh6UWFwJ0vnuh
thick venture
Tysm
ornate hamlet
this isnt reddit
split lance
Top shelf, extra rashuns for ya
ill eat all of it
modest patrol
this isnt reddit
Ya this is discord
acoustic isle
ARES GIVE ME TRUE SURVIVOR!! AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!!!!
ornate hamlet
anyways as i was saying
the reason you shouldnt let psykers into your team
because theyre all just a big liability
nocturne dust
modest patrol
Right?
nocturne dust
Too obvious, try harder next time. @ornate hamlet
split lance
Too obvious, try harder next time. <@456226577798135808>
i lied im a fucking nerd
nocturne dust
smh my head
split lance
tbf tho i think i was at 300 2 weeks ago
modest patrol
Hard to know my play time because my steam is used by my partner and I both
split lance
is there any way to see how many ive played recently
radiant frigate
oopsie
nocturne dust
I mean you can look at scoreboard history
acoustic isle
nocturne dust
but otherwise no
radiant frigate
how much time spent in the psykhanium and fiddling with gear? who knows!
acoustic isle
i know like 400 of those hours is psyker
split lance
@strong gulch can u check this steam section for me pls, on darktide
strong gulch
🙃
radiant frigate
siblings is someone posting bait again
modest patrol
95% of my own time is Psyker
modest patrol
siblings is someone posting bait again
Yes
radiant frigate
i would not say it is 95% for me
radiant frigate
but probably a solid 40-50%
acoustic isle
it's kinda comedic because i saw ogryn on launch
strong gulch
<@417891087500312576> can u check this steam section for me pls, on darktide
63.8 hrs
acoustic isle
and my first character was ogryn
and that really massively fucked up my perception when i went to zealot
radiant frigate
my first character was zealot
steel flame
I mean you have the damage but the corruption is just gonna kill you before you kill it
modest patrol
I started with zealot, then heard the voice lines of the masc Loner, and I was sold
maiden oracle
I mean you have the damage but the corruption is just gonna kill you before you ...
you cant die from the corruption aura it caps at like 50% or so of your max hp
radiant frigate
i think psyker was my third
radiant frigate
found out that surge staff can skip shooter encounters so i can get back to meleeing faster
great success
split lance
i remember arguing and sending a ss in here
nocturne dust
<@235538696462401536> <@249951531552473088> <@417891087500312576> Get in 99
I will be a few minutes, I am in ze restroom
🚽
strong gulch
bio donation
lethal lagoon
I can describe the color of my fecal matter if you would like
I'm calling your bluff, I want a full description.
modest patrol
I just made some bomb food with leftovers.
radiant frigate
is it food for bombs
fiery stratus
its green after i ate one of those black buned hamburgers
radiant frigate
food made with bombs
fiery stratus
nocturne dust
I'm calling your bluff, I want a full description.
A pale, bright-ish brown with a hue of green on one side. It's not very reflective in the yellow lighting, as one might expect of such an object.
modest patrol
food made with bombs
I cannot confirm nor deny
fiery stratus
radiant frigate
I cannot confirm nor deny
or, option three, is the taste explosive?
lethal lagoon
A pale, bright-ish brown with a hue of green on one side. It's not very reflecti...
You need to get your gut microbiome in check, that's a decent amount of undigested fat.
smh
modest patrol
or, option three, is the taste explosive?
(It’s this one 
)
nocturne dust
You need to get your gut microbiome in check, that's a decent amount of undigest...
I have IBS.
lethal lagoon
Fair.
nocturne dust
A severe case too.
modest patrol
I have IBS.
relatable
strong gulch
OOF sorry fren
radiant frigate
this sounds very detrimental for melee
maiden oracle
your build link doesnt work for me idk why
nocturne dust
It's okay, I just have to avoid two extremely common ingredients in nearly every single piece of American cuisine, and also monitor my food intake by grams, and also eat just enough but not too much fiber.
and sometimes it hurts anyway
hearty wolf
It makes sense why you play Psyker
modest patrol
Dinner creation: gluten-free because my digestive system hates me, cheeseburger-inspired burger macaroni. I’m only having a little bit because of protein restrictions
modest patrol
It's okay, I just have to avoid two extremely common ingredients in nearly every...
The ways I relate. So. Much.
ripe obsidian
Is there a preferred Relic Blade mark on Zealot?
delicate dove
The ways I relate. So. Much.
bruh, I have a fucked up stomach too. I don't even have a clue what foods trigger me because there's so many
modest patrol
bruh, I have a fucked up stomach too. I don't even have a clue what foods trigge...
This life man. It’s rough.
prime elk
Is there a preferred Relic Blade mark on Zealot?
X is better imo
delicate dove
yall know the link between digestive issues and autism? living example 
prime elk
Strong single target combos and flexible horde clear combos
radiant frigate
Is there a preferred Relic Blade mark on Zealot?
i prefer 2 personally
modest patrol
yall know the link between digestive issues and autism? living example <:whatthe...
Omg YES
radiant frigate
but both good
nocturne dust
I've never been tested for autism. I don't think I have it, but I wouldn't be that surprised if I did.
delicate dove
I've never been tested for autism. I don't think I have it, but I wouldn't be th...
I mean, you're here. red flag 🚨
ONE OF US
ripe obsidian
i prefer 2 personally
I'm finding 2s combos to be weird. Like, 2 attacks, then locked into a repeated 3/4
nocturne dust
I mean, you're here. red flag 🚨
radiant frigate
I'm finding 2s combos to be weird. Like, 2 attacks, then locked into a repeated ...
i like how 2 flows more
modest patrol
radiant frigate
can also pretty easily swap between multitarget and single target combos
modest patrol
Maybe autism is normal and the non-autists are weird
That’s what I’m running with
nocturne dust
https://tenor.com/view/copium-gif-766857345458198993
radiant frigate
siblings is it autistic to become one with the warp?
or to let the warp flow through you
warm ivy
Yes
delicate dove
https://tenor.com/view/thats-okay-coping-technology-connections-gif-20618705
yt household appliance man
modest patrol
If it is, I don’t want to be neurotypical
(Spoiler alert: I don’t want to be anyway)
warm ivy
No
radiant frigate
If it is, I don’t want to be neurotypical
idk being normal sounds like much less of a hassle
not that anyone gets a choice
nocturne dust
yt household appliance man
ornate hamlet
or to let the warp flow through you
letting the warp flow through you is also what i call shitting my pants
radiant frigate
letting the warp flow through you is also what i call shitting my pants
bait account
ornate hamlet
huh
split lance
its not even good bait
olive lynx
I'm a psycher main and I'm not enjoying my experience lol
modest patrol
idk being normal sounds like much less of a hassle
But also like a much less interesting perspective on the world, no? Let’s stay interesting.
olive lynx
I know this is lore accurate
radiant frigate
bait used to be believable 🚬
ornate hamlet
how is it bait if im sharing a personal experience
olive lynx
but my God it's like we're playing a completely different game than everyone else
delicate dove
the only time I shii meself is when I got food poisoning from my dad's cooking, lmao
dramatization
fiery stratus
medium rare chicken isnt a thing
radiant frigate
nurgle cult spreading in the siblings channel
delicate dove
the only time I shii meself is when I got food poisoning from my dad's cooking, ...
the whole house got sick but him
modest patrol
nurgle cult spreading in the siblings channel
How very unfortunate. We must be on the lookout for signs of daemonic possession.
vernal temple
the only time I shii meself is when I got food poisoning from my dad's cooking, ...
shitting yourself is actually very much approved by Papa Nurgle
ornate hamlet
the whole house got sick but him
i shit my pants earlier today so i could get out of a meeting
cold geode
You should shit yourself in the meeting on purpose, and stay to assert dominance.
modest patrol
You should shit yourself in the meeting on purpose, and stay to assert dominance...
The way of a real gangster.
delicate dove
shitting yourself is actually very much approved by Papa Nurgle
it was a nurgle moment. the worst part was I had to vom at the same time and had to choose between shi or vom.
ornate hamlet
psyker chat slowly turning into zealot chat
psykers thinking they’re smarter than zealots will always be funny to me
delicate dove
https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-why-not-take-both-gif-11478682
because the sink and toilet are too far apart, lmao
cold geode
no i mean just do both in the meeting 😄
delicate dove
o lol
vernal temple
it was a nurgle moment. the worst part was I had to vom at the same time and had...
sit down on the toilet to shit, hold a basin to vom. must we teach you life's basics, old man?
modest patrol
sit down on the toilet to shit, hold a basin to vom. must we teach you life's ba...
This is the way 
plucky flax
your build link doesnt work for me idk why
It's normal surge but with kf and no soulstealer. A bit risky but more damage. I'd run the smite version 90% of the time tho
delicate dove
sit down on the toilet to shit, hold a basin to vom. must we teach you life's ba...
https://tenor.com/view/i-didnt-have-time-organizm-players-i-had-no-time-ran-out-of-time-gif-25975097
plucky flax
Uuuhhh
plucky flax
No idea what normal surge is lol
At the start of the video
https://youtu.be/AVCEy5nSqgw
It's comfy and you just spam staff. Smite when things get hairy. Press f a lot at 84%+ peril
maiden oracle
So just this build and drop soul stealer for kf?
half turtle
why 84% peril
cutoff for 6 stacks
of soulblaze
venting shriek gives more soulblaze/more stagger depending on peril
ornate hamlet
rlly? i thought it was 85%?
vernal temple
it's actually 69%
ornate hamlet
it's actually 69%
worthy trellis
Is Scrier's Gaze worth testing on a staff build or should I always stick with Venting Shriek?
maiden oracle
What is kf again
plucky flax
So just this build and drop soul stealer for kf?
Yeah essentially. It's more damage but less toughness regen. If you stick with teammates it's still okay
ornate hamlet
What is kf again
kinetic fullness
half turtle
rlly? i thought it was 85%?
it's actually 83.333333...% i think, cuz it's 5/6
plucky flax
Kinetic flayer. Free bb on monster elites and specials
vernal frost
Is Scrier's Gaze worth testing on a staff build or should I always stick with Ve...
it's very good with staves cause you have access to warp unbound
half turtle
kinetic flayer is like a few hundred dps for free but it does overkill a ton
it's fun though
plucky flax
Weapons and curios are all the same in both builds?
Yes but you can run your own preferences too
ornate hamlet
Is Scrier's Gaze worth testing on a staff build or should I always stick with Ve...
it’s the better one for voidstrike
half turtle
i like it on trauma with perilous combustion cuz it's 7 free stacks on the whole group if you crit on your first shot
and then you shout for 13
vernal temple
kinetic flayer is like a few hundred dps for free but it does overkill a ton
And sometimes it gets wasted on a random poxer
half turtle
And sometimes it gets wasted on a random poxer
not any more! they changed this
vernal temple
Oh I didn't know
half turtle
yeah i think that's why people started running it more
it fucks in aurics, it's ok but not amazing in (high) havoc
worthy trellis
Is Empyric Shock or Warp Splitting also worth it for staff spam attack builds?
half turtle
esp because bb is ranged so it does 0 damage to guys with pus-hardened
half turtle
yeah i love it because it gives you instant pc to put fire on a pack
but in havocs a lot of the time it just... doesn't kill the guy
plucky flax
Yeah still free damage. And if it helps kill a special faster its worth it cos if you are trapped u die instantly in havoc
half turtle
oh yeah definitely
i think it's still good but it just doesn't feel quite as strong as it does in auric
vernal temple
i think it's still good but it just doesn't feel _quite_ as strong as it does in...
Because havoc enemies are thicker iirc
half turtle
Because havoc enemies are thicker iirc
yeah basically, in general i'd say spike damage is worse in havocs because bps are harder to hit (and dots are better bc they get longer to burn, and also ignore pus-hardened)
ornate hamlet
Because havoc enemies are thicker iirc
no, enemies have less health in havoc, there’s just more of them so they feel tankier
delicate dove
Inner Tranquility + Penetration of the soul OR Essence Harvest + Empyric Resolve? Opinions?
half turtle
it's really frustrating to have to brain-burst gunners twice to kill them on havoc 35+
plucky flax
Huh definitely more hp
half turtle
no, enemies have less health in havoc, there’s just more of them so they feel ta...
crushers have around 8k hp on havoc 40 iirc
plucky flax
Doppio gas lighting
half turtle
and only 3600 on damnation
ornate hamlet
Doppio gas lighting
half turtle
well havocs under ~20 i think have weaker enemies than damnation? i think??
im not sure
plucky flax
It's heresy after all
ornate hamlet
im still wondering how i didnt die here
ripe obsidian
im still wondering how i didnt die here
Yellow toughness OP
half turtle
it really is
ornate hamlet
Yellow toughness OP
^^^
funny how i get more yellow toughness than actual toughness
half turtle
still took over a wound of purple though LOL
the fact that gold toughness stacks is super busted
ornate hamlet
still took over a wound of purple though LOL
it was the diahrea pool modifer
yea doesnt 2 books give 200 toughness
kinda op if u ask me
half turtle
it was the diahrea pool modifer
you took the purple cuz in havocs enemies do % purple damage in melee
you can see it stacked up when you got hit
ornate hamlet
oh that makes sense
vernal temple
Yeah, havoc enemies all do corruption damage
half turtle
a crusher can actually just instantly kill (not even down, just flat kill) you from full hp because of it, if you eat the overhead
ornate hamlet
Yeah, havoc enemies **all** do corruption damage
even the corrupter?
plucky flax
33% charge does seem to be a good sweet spot against chaffs since the direct damage dont matter much and its just long enough to keep blaze away. good tip bro. for monster full charge still feels a lot nicer
vernal temple
And on high levels an overhead crusher chop deletes u
ripe obsidian
a crusher can actually just instantly kill (not even down, just flat kill) you f...
That's why Crushers are insta--you already said it
plucky flax
@cyan portal
vernal temple
even the corrupter?
If you look him in the eye long enough
ornate hamlet
a crusher can actually just instantly kill (not even down, just flat kill) you f...
ive been flattened by a crusher once or twice tbf
ripe obsidian
ive been flattened by a crusher once or twice tbf
I would call you a liar if you said otherwise
ornate hamlet
speaking of, if you get flattened by a crusher does that not count against true survivor?
vernal temple
ornate hamlet
when i got true survivor there was 1 down in my team but it was to a crusher overhead and i still got the penance, felt like cheating
half turtle
yeah instant deaths don't count as downs LOL
half turtle
it's Funny Fatshark Logic
i guess technically it's true
i think also if you die from a ledge it doesn't count as a down but i'm not 100% sure
ornate hamlet
fatshart devs try not to be lazy challenge (impossible)
ornate hamlet
i think also if you die from a ledge it doesn't count as a down but i'm not 100%...
this makes me wonder, if you overload on psyker and jump off a ledge ur char wont grab on bc hes busy grabbing his head, and bc u fall off u dont 'go down' i wonder if this would work in a true survivor run
half turtle
it's possible ledging itself counts as a down
ornate hamlet
would be a funny prank
half turtle
this makes me wonder, if you overload on psyker and jump off a ledge ur char won...
hmm my understanding is that losing control of your character just makes you explode immediatley but i've never tried a ledge
but if you overload and get grabbed by a mutant you blow up immediately
instead of finishing the animation
ornate hamlet
that is true
i recall you kinda just yell all the way down and still blow up
but u dont 'go down'
pliant plover
this makes me wonder, if you overload on psyker and jump off a ledge ur char won...
If you are overloading you can't exactly jump.
ornate hamlet
If you are overloading you can't exactly jump.
hold at 100 peril, jump, then overload
is how
vernal temple
but if you overload and get grabbed by a mutant you blow up immediately
The poor psyker, not only is his brain about to fry, but he also gets yoinked by a screaming buff dude
ornate hamlet
i do it whenever i finish a train mission
pliant plover
hold at 100 peril, jump, then overload
Why would you intentionally do this
potent echo
Or just walk off a ledge, done it plenty of times lol
ornate hamlet
Why would you intentionally do this
to cause other people trouble, why do i do most things that i do?
pliant plover
to cause other people trouble, why do i do most things that i do?
Pls give me your fatshark ID so I can block you
plucky flax
ornate hamlet
Pls give me your fatshark ID so I can block you
what's a fatshark ID?
pliant plover
what's a fatshark ID?
The social tab.
pliant plover
Do you know how to navigate steam because that would do 😂
vernal temple
i dont use that tab i dont have any friends
nobody has any doubts about that
half turtle
damn gottem
vernal temple
maiden oracle
What perks and blessings for force sword
maiden oracle
It doesn’t even have wrath
maiden oracle
I thought uncanny slaughterer was the play
potent echo
Uncanny slaught is great
muted grove
As a psyker what’s the best way of dealing with dogs
half turtle
As a psyker what’s the best way of dealing with dogs
stab them in the head with the dueling sword as they jump at you
if you can't do that reliably, shoving is fine too
ornate hamlet
I thought uncanny slaughterer was the play
for the deimos
mayhaps
but the illsi is the superior one
half turtle
im not sure if one is obviously better than the other but the deimos has more mobility and imo better makes up for the weaknesses of the rest of your kit
cuz psyker has a lot of really good horde clear options
muted grove
Does the purg staff melee
Stop dogs?
half turtle
uh probably but you should just use the lmb puff instead
purg lmb staggers pretty much everything that isn't an ogryn
you can use it to shove dogs and bursters
muted grove
My
Lmb hasn’t stopped them from pouncing me wth
half turtle
could be lag
muted grove
Works well on bursters idk what’s up
half turtle
you can also stagger them from the instant they "set" to jump, you don't have to stagger them out of the pounce itself
once they stop to jump any stagger makes them go onto their jump cd and loop around for a bit before trying again, even if they haven't jumped yet
worst case just play a corner or a crate or something, dogs suck at corners and crates
but you really should be able to just swap to melee and shove on the audio cue, it's by far the safest thing you can do
hard hamlet
siblings, what blessings do we like on the mkVIII big sword
hard hamlet
prime elk
8 is based
strong gulch
Wrath + choose your own adventure is the current go to. Some of the blessings are meh tho. Second blessing are generally shred/ riposte/ unstable
hard hamlet
she look like someone youd see in a tatooine background shot
delicate dove
teammate kills me and himself with a barrel, losing us the game https://youtu.be/eN2Rud2jyXI?si=5mRz1uaHZNEVrq2t
prime elk
siblings, what blessings do we like on the mkVIII big sword
if you're peril edging, run unstable power + shred/riposte
otherwise wrath + shred/riposte
strong gulch
But there is also unstable + riposte with warp splitting (talent on right side).
hard hamlet
when we meleeker with this weapon do we try to get the dodge extender talent or nah
prime elk
not necessary
nice to have but pretty much never worth the 2 points you need to path to get there
hard hamlet
mhm
plucky flax
Me with shred riposte 
ripe obsidian
Me with shred riposte <:PeepoHappy:402867832175460363>
Not sure your crit chance is high enough. Do better
plucky flax
Tru 
prime elk
Me with shred riposte <:PeepoHappy:402867832175460363>
that would be funny... but i need cleave still lol
plucky flax
that would be funny... but i need cleave still lol
I cleave with.. assails
And yes warp splitting too
strong gulch
@plucky flax We did it, we got 40.
plucky flax
Unstable is nice too.
But I just do horde clear with assails more than big sword.
It's more for elites for me so crit is nicer.
ripe obsidian
Zealot throwing knife makes me miss Assail
nocturne dust
<@150967101836886016> We did it, we got 40.
Now for True Survivor
ripe obsidian
I don't want to aim
nocturne dust
strong gulch
Now for True Survivor
ye
maiden oracle
Why 2 hp 1 toughness curio btw
plucky flax
It's just your preference mane
hard hamlet
i use 2 tough one stam
maiden oracle
Ah ok
nocturne dust
Everyone else but me died so I am perfect and need no improvement (I was zealot)
plucky flax
378k melee damge is 'okay' for me since I use assails a lot more than sword
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1317997345732034691/image.png?ex=676209ae&is=6760b82e&hm=d1637c98c1487dcee6687233a518487d86b3f5d9339c118eb70243848298aa21&
Classic baross with no one doing objective at mid event.
hard hamlet
😩
ripe obsidian
I cannot wait until I am done Havoc penances and I have more than 6 maps to choose from
hard hamlet
378k melee damge is 'okay' for me since I use assails a lot more than sword <:wh...
are you doing gaze/empowered assail
plucky flax
are you doing gaze/empowered assail
Assails creeping flames DD
DD boost your melee too
hard hamlet
tru 😮
plucky flax
But if you're starved on points then EP is nice.
But tru aim is too good with assails anyway.
So I'd still go down there then just take DD
I am noob so I use the long duration DD
hard hamlet
can i see how ya build that
plucky flax
25 stacks too hard to keep
plucky flax
can i see how ya build that
It's right at the start
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmuEgEBHzrY
hard hamlet
nice thanks
plucky flax
Not as strong as surge creeping flames spam
But it's just so nice to play juggling all your tools.
hard hamlet
oh hey! ive watched your videos before 😄
plucky flax
It's good to help you manage psyker's weaponaries
Blitz melee range and your ability. You use it all.
hard hamlet
no ethereal shards on assail, interesting 🤔
plucky flax
The warp splitting is your cleave talent. It increases both melee and assails.
hard hamlet
okie doke
plucky flax
I can't find another spare point for it sadly otherwise I'd take it too for even more cleave.
hard hamlet
ahh i see
plucky flax
But even at like 50% peril warp splitting does more than ethereal shards.
hard hamlet
so between the 2 warp splitting is the better pick because it works on both
plucky flax
Yeah and it does more too.
At high peril it's 100% cleave which is huge for your big sword.
hard hamlet
hmm, wonder if a MKVIII would be good with it or if i should switch
ripe obsidian
I prefer VIII
nocturne dust
I prefer 6
ornate hamlet
I prefer 6 <:chadgryn:1161142998214656090>
patent mango
mk6 is jolly
plucky flax
hmm, wonder if a MKVIII would be good with it or if i should switch
Play what you want. I personally prefer 6.
ornate hamlet
Play what you want. I personally prefer 6.
ornate hamlet
superior siblings use the mk6
ornate hamlet
For trying to do push attack at 100% peril.
i didn’t know you blow up to this till yesterday 🥲 i was so confused i had to clip it
nocturne dust
The 6 gets a heavy stab after ranged attack, and the ranged staggers a whole lot more enemies than a single-target push attack
You can also still push to expose bulwarks and crushers and then just heavy them to death
nocturne dust
Just for stagger, but still worth it to stagger
Surprise the crap out of a whole patrol with a warp slice, knock off a few of them before they can even react, and then just slice em again 
You can also save friends from dogs through walls with the slice
half turtle
what mod do you use for the peril bar
ripe obsidian
VI has a much better heavy chain for dealing with elites. I just can't get the horde combo to feel good for me.
I know it's just like L1 L2 H3 or something, not complex
Just doesn't feel good
ripe obsidian
what mod do you use for the peril bar
half turtle
oh weird i guess i never noticed it had that option or i turned it off years ago and forgot
thanks
plucky flax
I know it's just like L1 L2 H3 or something, not complex
Easiest is to push, then light heavy.
Repeat
ornate hamlet
hello, anyone got an auric psyker build? much appreciated
plucky flax
Yes just light spam is nice too.
nocturne dust
Optimization unneeded
prime elk
VI has a much better heavy chain for dealing with elites. I just can't get the h...
eh the VIII's isn't far behind
given how powerful force pushes are anyway
potent echo
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/243?tab=description
Did they fix this not affecting the vanilla peril gauge?
For mk6 horde clear I usually just do a heavy whenever I see the uppercut to the left
Either that or I swap to throw assail because it would be the time when peril starts to drop
ornate hamlet
hello, anyone got an auric psyker build? much appreciated
this isn’t the psyker chat
prime elk
Did they fix this not affecting the vanilla peril gauge?
been working perfectly fine for me at least
you may need to update if you're seeing problems
hard hamlet
Play what you want. I personally prefer 6.
just tried your vent/assail/2h sword build in a quickplay, came in halfway thru the stage and won on damage 😮
ripe obsidian
Scoreboard only counts damage since you joined
hard hamlet
strong gulch
@nocturne dust Since you mentioned recording with steam, I gave it a try and got our havoc 40 run. I tried to trim the video in youtube editor; we'll see after if that processes.
For now the run is up. Thanks for letting me know about that feature.
thick valley
wind spruce
https://youtu.be/h4AQRa-vnEc?si=xww_hLGku1FuIbyk
You should change the colour of the debuff text and make it just show the number of stacks. So much more aesthetic to just have the numbers rather than 50 different "soulblaze", "rending" etc tags floating around
strong gulch
You should change the colour of the debuff text and make it just show the number...
Didn't even realize I could do that. I might look into that.
nocturne dust
You should change the colour of the debuff text and make it just show the number...
counterpoint: reading
wind spruce
counterpoint: reading
Too hard
strong gulch
Too hard is a good point.
wind spruce
It's worth changing it
Your brain processes the colours much more easily, and it's prettier
And it's easy to change in the mod settings
potent echo
Coloured numbers
north orchid
Numbers good
strong gulch
Coloured numbers <:thumbsup_ogryn:1063452727302180926>
Colors added.
ripe obsidian
Any idea the cleave value for the FGS and Relic Blades? I would use the breakpoint calculator, but it appears not to be updated
potent echo
Probably have to do manual testing 
ripe obsidian
Well, it looks like 5 poxwalkers on relic X, so something like 8 cleave.
potent echo
Could you help to test the activated swing (melee portion) too?
I think it goes through carapace
split lance
Any idea the cleave value for the FGS and Relic Blades? I would use the breakpoi...
WHATS A BREAK POINT
caps
ofo
oof
potent echo
Darktide Breakpoint calculator
It's a website that has plenty of info on weapon damage/cleave values
But it has not been updated to include FGS/Hstubber stuff
next venture
Support / Smite Psyker looking to get into Auric / Havoc missions. Any major tips I should know? Already dug into builds, gotten my curios refined and weapons to 500, and looked up their optimal combos.
fallow stream
next venture
Bubble? Huh... no one ever stood in it
fallow stream
high havoc has made me re-evaluate my stance on psykers
next venture
Admittedly my biggest sin was trying a Havoc with the mind set of using Smite to CC entire swarms / elites to keep them locked down. Did nothing but smite
ripe obsidian
Support / Smite Psyker looking to get into Auric / Havoc missions. Any major tip...
Stick together, throw down endless bubbles, you die if you get sneezed on. Zealots will read you stories from their holy book so long as you kill everything that moves.
Purgatus and Blaze Trauma staves work best due to their infinite cleave against the 320% mass horde enemies, and soulblaze bypasses a lot of Havoc's resistance modifiers. Maybe all of them? Not sure.
next venture
Ah, might be time to level a new staff then
I've been using a Electrokinetic / Voidstrike
ripe obsidian
Smite and Surge staff are often better as a secondary psyker rather than primary
Voidstrike struggles.
next venture
I used to carry it for the meaty WHAP you get on an elite kill
ripe obsidian
Voidstrike has something like 12 cleave, and when a basic poxwalker has 4.8 hitmass...
next venture
And been struggling to get Electro to arc to which guy I want in a swarm. Will try to get the 2 you mentioned. https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ba81400-4c60-4362-9756-f93428dfc021/azyr-psyker-smite-venting-shriek-empowered-psionics Main build I was trying out
ripe obsidian
I'm sure you could make it work, but it will be harder than using Purgatus or Trauma
potent echo
The elite health buff also dumpsters voidstrike
plucky flax
Smiter in high havoc 
ripe obsidian
Hey, I had a secondary psyker smiting for me in a havoc 40 game earlier
potent echo
Is smite bad in havocs
ripe obsidian
Made things easy. And kinda boring at parts.
potent echo
Haven't tried smiting yet
next venture
As I understand in higher levels you smite just long enough to get them to freeze then shove and switch to your staff / sword, right?
ripe obsidian
Also 85% slower vent means you gotta spend more time venting
ripe obsidian
As I understand in higher levels you smite just long enough to get them to freez...
I don't honestly know. I haven't played smyker... ever.
next venture
So rather than channel you basically mass shove spam?
ripe obsidian
Channel is better imo
ripe obsidian
Yeah, I think high havoc enemies will laugh at the stagger attempt
potent echo
You probably can't kill anymore even with EP
ripe obsidian
With trauma.
Trauma is good and fun. Knock everything over. Laugh at them.
next venture
Writes all this down Good...good. I assume save smiting for swarms with elites mixed in? Swarms of just infected can be ripped open
ripe obsidian
I think almost every horde is gonna have a lot of elites mixed in
next venture
Fair
ripe obsidian
The Havoc 40 I did earlier, I had like 230 elite kills, and another guy had 180
potent echo
Bring a gun that kills specials
split lance
https://dt.wartide.net/calc/
What’s a breakpoint tho
ripe obsidian
Bring a gun that kills specials
Depends. I often rely on my teammates to deal with specials. My build does not do well at it.
ripe obsidian
What’s a breakpoint tho
Specific number that you need to reach or exceed to perform a specific task.
split lance
Depends. I often rely on my teammates to deal with specials. My build does not d...
I almost only target specials. Unless i literally can’t
next venture
Gonna be a bit annoying to relevel a staff's mastery to get it to 500, but be nice to get out of difficulty 3
strong gulch
So rather than channel you basically mass shove spam?
If you are soing EP smite, shove spam is not ideal. You might as well go Warp Siphon for CDR.
ripe obsidian
Example: breakpoint for cleaving 5 poxwalkers is, I think, just over 6 cleave. 1.5 mass each, and anything past 6 would go into a fifth one. I think that's how it works
next venture
I'll go with Smite channel / Bubble
ripe obsidian
I almost only target specials. Unless i literally can’t
I tend to target elites and trash mobs. The ubiquitous plasma veteran deletes specials
potent echo
In VT2 breakpoints refer more to 1/2 shot kill on elite/specials
ripe obsidian
Breakpoints can be a lot of things
potent echo
Do plasma vets have any ammo though
ripe obsidian
Being able to one-bop certain enemies is probably the most common use of the term
ripe obsidian
Do plasma vets have any ammo though <:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
Usually. Ammo aura does work.
potent echo
Oh yea so many elites, even with the cooldown
strong gulch
In non-havoc, EP smite with smite upgrades (not charged strikes) does more damage than non EP but is still a PC, shriek, wildfire, and Psyk aura enabler.
wind spruce
I'll go with Smite channel / Bubble
If you're still struggling in difficulty three I'd suggest ditching bubble AND smite so you can more effectively learn other mechanics
strong gulch
Unless you and your team are very good about not getting shreded by ranged in high havoc, EP smite + shriek will not be a great choice as the only psyker.
split lance
If you're still struggling in difficulty three I'd suggest ditching bubble AND s...
surge shriek
id recommend
next venture
I can reliably get through Difficulty 3 but fully died on a Havoc 19 to gunner spam. Felt like I should hang back and learn much more before trying to go to 4 then up to Auric
strong gulch
Most people in here don't use a lot of bubble or smite in auric dams and maels.
wind spruce
I can reliably get through Difficulty 3 but fully died on a Havoc 19 to gunner s...
I'd recommend the dodge and slide buttons
next venture
I also feel sheepish about being the only non Auric title in HAvocs
ripe obsidian
Havoc 19 is difficulty 4.
split lance
I can reliably get through Difficulty 3 but fully died on a Havoc 19 to gunner s...
ill run auric w u
strong gulch
High havoc shooter damage vs auric dams are worlds apart.
potent echo
Alot of skillchecks are map knowledge checks
strong gulch
Alot of skillchecks are map knowledge checks
This is true.
ripe obsidian
Is it 1-10 is Malice and 11-20 is Heresy?
split lance
imagine knowing the maps
wind spruce
Alot of skillchecks are map knowledge checks
It's also just queues that no one can teach, like reacting correctly to backstabs, specials, muzzle flash, etc
strong gulch
Also, a lot of builds for high havoc are more defensive than what's recommended for aurics.
ripe obsidian
Auric is very forgiving in comparison
strong gulch
Yes. So much so that you either feel like a god or get super confident sloppy and go down in absurd ways.
next venture
Like getting jumped by 4 reapers pre firing us going through a door, yikes
strong gulch
Remembering to be weary of doors, archways, new rooms, and knowing how and when to supress things.
4 reapers is not that bad. Though in T3, I can def see that as unusual and therefore harder to deal with.
next venture
Admittedly we were down a guy and rushing in. There were other elites but the reapers were all I saw
ripe obsidian
Tbh I don't know how to suppress things beyond, "I am shooting at you now, either die or run away"
next venture
Last non 3 I ran which made me really buckle down and learn DT
split lance
Tbh I don't know how to suppress things beyond, "I am shooting at you now, eithe...
press f
strong gulch
Tbh I don't know how to suppress things beyond, "I am shooting at you now, eithe...
I mean that is pretty much it. You can also grief the vet by making everything hide.
ripe obsidian
I enjoy throwing down an aggressive bubble and running forward spamming LMB to scare all the shooters
strong gulch
I will say tho, relying on CC tools makes you worse at melee. Sometimes you have to use melee to get out of tough situations or that is your best boss / monster damage.
Learning to reposition and kite things is important.
ripe obsidian
I spent my first 300ish levels on Zealot. My melee skills are... okay. Not the best, but I can usually crab-slide my way out of danger
I do enjoy poking crushers in the face with the DS4. Reminds me of doing the same to Chaos Warriors as WHC
strong gulch
Yeah. Crab and slide away is important.
ripe obsidian
Anyway, it is 3am. I must slumber. Fare thee well.
plucky flax
My current place wifi is not too strong.
Veri sad.
Might be laggy even on SEA server.
strong gulch
Speaking of relying on CC, I miss levitating chaos warriors and stabbing them.
marble crater
I mean that is pretty much it. You can also grief the vet by making everything h...
Trauma staff to grief your entire team. Lmb to suppress everyone, rmb to kill toughness regen of the zealot and ogryn
nocturne dust
Tbh I don't know how to suppress things beyond, "I am shooting at you now, eithe...
shoot near enemy
enemy scared
enemy cower
enemy wait for you to shoot them
ornate abyss
Guys I feel so weak with the new greatsword for psyker. I love the looks and horde clear, but I can't figure out how to consistently kill mutants and crushers etc. I am severely underperforming compared to my team
patent jacinth
Guys I feel so weak with the new greatsword for psyker. I love the looks and hor...
Heavy attacks
That’s like
It
potent echo
Pick DD
patent jacinth
You heavy attack them
potent echo
You need DD for mutant breakpoint
25% maniac might also be enough
And yea mk6 spam heavy works great
Also make sure you hit heads etc
strong gulch
Trauma staff to grief your entire team. Lmb to suppress everyone, rmb to kill to...
Fire trauma with wildlife to grief orher psykers.
strong gulch
Guys I feel so weak with the new greatsword for psyker. I love the looks and hor...
This moveset chart should help. #psyker-class message
Idk if you can mod, but creature spawner would help a lot in practicing on those enemies in isolation.
potent echo
Using the (melee portion of) activate on FGS is also great vs clumps of elites, especially maulers/crushers
Just think of it like an Uber illisi
ornate abyss
What do you guys like to use on BFG? I have wrath and unstable power
But I might just ditch the BFG for the DS. The latter outperforms the former in killing elites and like everything else
patent jacinth
I unga bunga double crit blessings (shred riposte)
ornate abyss
I unga bunga double crit blessings (shred riposte)
is it able to kill stuff then? My sword only works at 70+ peril
ornate abyss
yes
wind spruce
is it able to kill stuff then? My sword only works at 70+ peril
Peril should barely make a difference
There's like 50 other different damage modifiers in our kit, especially if you're running right side
ornate abyss
I use unstable power blessing
wind spruce
Is this for havoc? And what ranged weapon?
ornate abyss
Is this for havoc? And what ranged weapon?
Yes it's for havoc but it should be more than alright in regular aurics too
wind spruce
I'd drop warp battery for souldrinker since you're running blaze trauma
ornate abyss
I'd drop warp battery for souldrinker since you're running blaze trauma
Think it'll do much difference? This is a build that I got of yt though. I wanted to try the new sword and have bubble for a defensive style havocesque build
wind spruce
Think it'll do much difference? This is a build that I got of yt though. I wante...
It's fine for havoc, but yes you might aswell grab soul drinker since it's one point away
It's a good talent
Especially if there's more than one psyker
plucky flax
Kinda weird blaze trauma without perfect timing.
paper ember
What is the dump stat for greatswords ?
potent echo
Warp res
paper ember
Thx, generally speaking what is the consensus on thoses new weapons ?
potent echo
Great generalist weapon
ornate abyss
It's fine for havoc, but yes you might aswell grab soul drinker since it's one p...
Do you have a build like this that might be better? Or I'll just take souldrinker and try practising more
maiden oracle
Running 2 toughness 1 stamina on melee psyker what should the sub stats be
I was thinking toughness and gunner res but idk if I should take stamina regen or cdr for the 3rd option
radiant frigate
if it's for havoc definitely cdr
maiden oracle
Nah not havoc
Not good enough for that yet I don’t think I’m even ready for auric mael
radiant frigate
then you can do whatever
maiden oracle
Alright
vernal temple
I just noticed, why the fuck is there a russian coat of arms on this backpack? 
maiden oracle
My ability is scriers gaze btw in case that changes anything
marble crater
Play a few games of havoc, after that auric maelstrom will seem easier, beat auric maelstrom and then you are ready for havoc
maiden oracle
I been using it mostly for rushing into mixed hordes
Don’t really know what else to pop it on
sour mantle
I just noticed, why the fuck is there a russian coat of arms on this backpack? <...
Why is Ogryn gear red, and why does it have stars on it
marble crater
It's blood
vernal temple
I really think ObeseFish should change that. Real world politics is the last thing I wanna see in my Darktide. Specially anything russian, with the war that's going on right next door for me
marble crater
Is that even a Russian one?
vernal temple
yes
strong gulch
Running 2 toughness 1 stamina on melee psyker what should the sub stats be
CDR is always good. Gunner resist is probably good. I don't stack all of the toughness and don't main melee. @clear heath would have a better take than me.
Stam regen is ehh on psyker tho. They already have good stam regen.
Like Kat said, it kinda whatever and personal pref for non-havoc. That being said, the general rec is 200hp and x1 sniper resist. That let's you take a sniper shot and 2 burster. If you never get sniped or don't care, that 200hp is still recommended for the odd silent burster.
vernal temple
Is that even a Russian one? <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
google "russian coat of arms" and compare
it's the same thing
maiden oracle
Got it
All bursters are silent for me though my audio cuts out whenever a horde spawns
rich spindle
Artist getting lazy by copy pasting the first result for eagle emblem that looked cool
marble crater
Should have used the Prussian coat of arms, clearly cooler
maiden oracle
So far I do extremely violent jerky 180s every couple of seconds and ping hordes to check for specials and it’s been going pretty alright
I should probably install that mod that adds visual indicators for incoming specials
marble crater
Just use your ears
acoustic isle
Yeah every so often i got silent bursters too
maiden oracle
Just use your ears <:chadgryn:1161142998214656090>
acoustic isle
It wont make any noise for me until it's already diving
quartz barn
On my end the sound queue is missplaced from time to time
Like the sound comes from behind but the burster is in front
acoustic isle
i'll hear the spawn screech. But then no beeps
maiden oracle
I hear nothing
acoustic isle
There was one right on a spawn door i was next too. Was killing trappers snd flamers just for one of them to explode on me
lean ore
acoustic isle
Welcome to the club my friend
plucky flax
Havoc 40 blaze trauma
rich spindle
lol
radiant frigate
big number
plucky flax
Would probably be higher with burga but I wanted to have some cc for extra safety.
strong gulch
Yes. Definitely big number.
strong gulch
Would probably be higher with burga but I wanted to have some cc for extra safet...
Felt. Those thicc mixed hordes can be scary.
quartz barn
SEA moment
fallen spindle
Did anyone here played assassins creed Unity
zinc phoenix
CDR is always good. Gunner resist is probably good. I don't stack all of the tou...
agree completely on stam regen for two reasons:
- our regen is fine
- with kinetic deflection we're the least stam dependent class
so its like double eh
upper sun
Me I only play ds4 flamer as zealot in havoc too <a:SadgeCry:927346529725976586>
this dood eats ammo for breakfast
zinc phoenix
ds4 flamer ds4 flamer
i just say i take relic bolter in 40s and do fine
and also dont feel the urge to second guess which zealot is mine 😂
wind spruce
Do you have a build like this that might be better? Or I'll just take souldrinke...
This is my havoc bubble trauma build
Others may vary slightly but it's pretty standard
ornate abyss
No souldrinker?
radiant ice
Souldrinker is a contender for the worst perk in the game
And the rending one doesn't even work
It doesn't refresh, so you can only gain the buff once it expires
20+ crits in 4 seconds? Only the first one counted and you have 1 second of the buff left
The next crit to count/trigger it only does so once the first one completely expires
ornate abyss
@radiant ice thoughts on my build? Made to use w BFG
radiant ice
BFG?
ornate abyss
The BFG 10 000
radiant ice
Also what difficulty/mode?
radiant ice
Hmm, it's worth noting that Havoc and Auric builds are very different
outer jungle
<@199154801445961730> thoughts on my build? Made to use w BFG
Kinetic Flayer is pretty underwhelming, imo. And Lightning Speed isn't really worth the detour for just that 10% attack speed. I'd move kinetic Flayer Point to Warp Splitting, that way you can still effectively use the FGS for elite/specialist waves that eat up cleave
radiant ice
Blaze force gs
Trauma staff
Are you using Rending Trauma or Blazing Trauma?
radiant ice
Kinetic Flayer is pretty underwhelming, imo. And Lightning Speed isn't really wo...
Kinetic Flayer is a beast of a perk
But does drop off with a Trauma staff
ornate abyss
Are you using Rending Trauma or Blazing Trauma?
Blazing
outer jungle
But does drop off with a Trauma staff
yeah that's why it's meh in that combination. Better boost the FGS cleave with that point
radiant ice
Blazing
Try this, it still keeps the flavour/inspiration of your build with a few tweaks
ornate abyss
Thanks! This works in havoc or can I have an auric build as well?
ornate abyss
Also is warp battery good?
ornate abyss
Try this staff setup
Nice that’s what I use
radiant ice
And for Havoc, these curios
Corrupt resist cause you'll likely be in the goo a lot with that setup
Makes sure you don't cross a wound before a zealot piety cleanses you
upper sun
this dude has 3 toughness
radiant ice
For Auric, your standard Curio setup of 2T, 1H or 2T, 1S should be fine
radiant ice
Also is warp battery good?
Playstyle depending
Usually it's a nice extra but not mandatory
There is certainly an argument for this layout too:
Which I personally prefer
And lastly, this is the setup I'd use if it was my build
hearty wolf
And for Havoc, these curios
This is very strange but interesting
radiant ice
Mess around with all 3 layouts and see what works, and make any changes to your playstyle as needed @ornate abyss
dense valley
And for Havoc, these curios
1 zealot w aura is enough to counter that mod
hearty wolf
It makes a lot of sense, but hm. I don't think I could rip myself off toughness just because of what it is.
radiant ice
1 zealot w aura is enough to counter that mod
Every single enemy in Havoc 35+ deals corruption with a hit
Corruption Resist, although the most swappable perk of the 3, shines on the squishy Psyker up in those levels
radiant ice
It makes a lot of sense, but hm. I don't think I could rip myself off toughness ...
In Havoc 35+ the difference to 0 Toughness Curios and 3 Toughness Curios is 20
20 whole Toughness
hearty wolf
That's enough for me
radiant ice
The difference in Health is around 160 iirc
hearty wolf
Because then funny number reaches 100
ornate abyss
Hmm
Toughness is that bad in havoc?
But very good in aurics
radiant ice
Because then funny number reaches 100
It can only reach 80 at best in most havoc ready builds
radiant ice
Hmm
Toughness is that bad in havoc?
But very good in aurics
Yep pretty much
The hidden modifiers in Havoc kill Toughness
But it's incredible in Auric
hearty wolf
I don't really think it matters... If you're getting hit that much anyway
You're eating it with gold toughness or you're cringe and taking damage
radiant ice
I don't really think it matters... If you're getting hit that much anyway
280 health with only 2 wounds has insane advantages
That's over 140hp from a med stim, that's corruption barely taking 1% after being dogged for a few seconds
That's flamers barely touching you
hearty wolf
I'm not saying it doesn't. I mean with that much hp and that little toughness, you've made the case
radiant ice
That's goo and pox gas barely touching you
radiant ice
They took our Toughness Grace, so we gotta adapt Xd
In Auric though, I am absolutely Toughness stacking XD
hearty wolf
Maybe if they make havoc 50 and just remove toughness
hearty wolf
I swear I can eat like 5 rounds
I guess I'll swap over to hp anyways out of curiosity
radiant ice
I mean with a few slides, I have crossed entire open rooms filled with gunners in Havoc 40
And barely took any damage, if any depending how awake I am for the movement tech XD
hearty wolf
So what you're saying is stamina, sprint efficiency and stamina efficiency
Got it
+9 stamina incoming
radiant ice
I mean, unironically yes
That can work if you're a movement god
Or a Zealot
Toughness is just crap in Havoc XD
quartz barn
Only dodge on i-frames
radiant ice
Iirc my Psyker in Havoc 40 has 285 hp
hearty wolf
With 100 toughness though I'm sure I'm not eating corruption bleed through though
radiant ice
That's 15hp off an Ogryn in Standard
At Havoc 40, the most toughness I could stack is 80ish
quartz barn
Iirc my Psyker in Havoc 40 has 285 hp
I assume this is triple 21%
hearty wolf
Do you know the % reductions for tightness and hp?
quartz barn
With 3x5%
radiant ice
The toughness reduction is brutal, it affects everything
As a multiplier
The HP one is just a flat number reduction
hearty wolf
O that's good to know
radiant ice
So you can still stack HP and the only difference is being like 15-30 down. Can't remember the exact number off the top of my head
hearty wolf
No wonder hp is so much of a better stack
quartz barn
radiant ice
That doesn't seem to line up with my own testing
But then again, we don't have Havoc in meat grinder for some reason
quartz barn
This is from one of the blogs afaik
hearty wolf
@quartz barn are the tiers explained? At which havoc level?
radiant ice
Regardless, build HP in havoc XD
quartz barn
Also remember that meat grinder is slightly off due to scuffed rounding
radiant ice
(That was a low tier havoc but still, point stands XD)
And I was running a stam curio iirc
radiant ice
Nah 35 is it's own bracket
quartz barn
Idk when t3 starts cuz im only at clearance 34
radiant ice
That has a big whack of new hidden modifiers and reductions
Some of which are missing from that table
Every hit deals corruption damage for example
85% quell penalty
Which it looks like they marked as vent, but I am sure heat vent is a different number
quartz barn
Ye its not a great list
quartz barn
I thought all already had it at all time?
Like 10% of dmg dealt is also taken as corruption for example
quartz barn
Ooh wait didnt realize thats seperate
wind spruce
bro dominaya
you say i have bad takes 💀
holy shit
"worst perk in the game"
hahahaha
radiant ice
"worst perk in the game"
What Souldrinker?
wind spruce
yes
radiant ice
I can't think of a single worse perk across any class
wind spruce
💀
wind spruce
it can proc from infinite range from any psykers soulblaze, its guaranteed on soulblaze KB but can still proc otherwise
radiant ice
But can't refresh
wind spruce
if you have even two psykers with purg/blaze trauma it starts popping
radiant ice
It turns on once, waits 5 seconds then turns off
Then there is the natural buff delay in the game of about 0.5s before you can gain it again
No matter how many crits you land in that time
wind spruce
you know it gives toughness back aswell, right?
radiant ice
It's straight up worse than the rending perk, despite it not working. At least it allows you to take Warp Siphon without ER on builds that need that
wind spruce
yes with one psyker its crap
radiant ice
Souldrinker is useless and way out the way
wind spruce
but soon as you have two
radiant ice
you know it gives toughness back aswell, right?
Woo, a tiny sliver of toughness that's straight worse than every other toughness gain Psyker has
wind spruce
im not arguing to build towards it
but its not even close to as garbage as you're making out
wind spruce
they literally arent depending on your build and # of psykers
radiant ice
So just take another instead of Souldrinker and at least get some benefit
I literally yesterday made a build purely to try make Souldrinker work and have value in a Havoc 4 game, for a bit of fun
No matter what I tried, the results were worse than picking literally any other node with my free point
It's awful
wind spruce
how many psykers
radiant ice
2
Other even had the inferno staff
It's still just useless
Stand in a bubble
Get a warp attack kill
Quell a little
Be in coherency
All give better Toughness rates than Souldrinker
And the crit node is the same thing but your crit chance doesn't turn off every 5 seconds
wind spruce
5% crit most of the time when it matters (lots of enemies, drawn out fight) and more toughness than probably quietude and definitely warp expenditure, especially when you're running ER
radiant ice
With the perk being broken, no
wind spruce
good if you have two soulblaze psykers, great once you have three+
radiant ice
At that point you're running a meme team anyway
And if you need a full team running memes to get some value out of a broke perk, it ain't a good perk
wind spruce
i literally made the caveat its only good with 2+ psykers
and multiple psykers in havoc is hardly a meme
clear heath
2 psykers is pretty normal
radiant ice
2 psykers is pretty normal
3 isn't
And even 2, there is way better teams to run
With 2 to really work, you only want one on Inferno
Otherwise they're just doing the same thing and not really any more effective than just 1
Except making that crappy perk work a tiny bit better than being a total point waste
wind spruce
yeah you're right, theres absolutely no benefit to having two psykers other than souldrinker
based
radiant ice
Two inferno Psykers, not really
If Psyker 1 really fucks up and their bubble expires before the next one is off cooldown
You get an extra bubble I guess
wind spruce
i usually go for one trauma one inferno, not two infernos
pretty sure others do the same
and its hardly fucking up if your bubble gets shredded in roughly the minimum time
it happens
radiant ice
Place it better, and kill the gunners
Just cause you have a dome doesn't mean you forget how to position
hearty wolf
This is actually making me laugh. Holy shit I'm so clueless. The only thing I could tell in all of this was that there were more monsters.
wind spruce
dont even run one bubble, kill the gunners better
potent echo
wooo havoc 40
radiant ice
wooo havoc 40
Woo well done!
Time for True Survivor and 50 assists!
The grind is real
potent echo
im good 
acoustic isle
Me trying for a bit to true survivor
Got me a decent rank 39 dark communion imma use this evening to gun for it
radiant ice
I’ve technically done it 4 times now
3 at 40
But already had it from the 36 I hosted xD
acoustic isle
I just need to find that solid squad that will listen and fall back
radiant ice
Nah the secret is keep moving forward imo
Not sprinting ahead, but the second you either stop or move back, it’s joever
Cause the director won’t let up
acoustic isle
And when we ping "go here" and move into said building i shouldnt turn around and see the squad didnt go there
And im now alone lmao
radiant ice
Keep a steady pace forward is what’s got it for me every time
acoustic isle
I definitely have been trying to get folks to move.
radiant ice
What region are you?
radiant ice
Damn
marble crater
I definitely have been trying to get folks to move.
You can move people with barrels, either directly or indirectly
acoustic isle
Ill get it eventually
acoustic isle
You can move people with barrels, either directly or indirectly
Ah but boss i dont want to go on another Gloriana wild ride
marble crater
Doesn't matter, you will do it and you will enjoy your way to the mid event
acoustic isle
Hey kids i heard you liked spending 20 minutes fixing power arrays
Welcome to Gloriana
And no the gunner spawns will not stop
marble crater
With pox gas, goop on the floor and extra tox bombers, that would be my nightmare I think
quartz barn
First event in gloriana is easy when bubble psyk gets a concentration stim
You get to make wall of 4-6 bubbles to the node, camp near the respawn totem afterwards
hearty wolf
Not sprinting ahead, but the second you either stop or move back, it’s joever
Moving back works just fine. It's just longer. You plan your escape routes before hand and just hold S if you don't have the fire power to continue.
potent echo
and bosses are only spawned by progress
hearty wolf
Really you can speedrun too as long as everyone is on the same page
quartz barn
End event with 6 monsters and a dh
hearty wolf
They should just make it so in havoc 40, all DHs are already pre-alerted
acoustic isle
My working theory is we all 4 grab shield, taunt on block, charge and speed boost on ult. Then grab a map like sycorax. Ignore what we can and yes, kite bosses
quartz barn
Meanwhile one oggy with a shield standing in the corner
acoustic isle
And we end the mission with like a trail of bosses chasing us lmao
Does anyone know if multiple captains can spawn?
If so that'd be funny
acoustic isle
But god would it be so fucking funny
hearty wolf
Maybe you'll have to have one Ogryn sacrifice themselves every so often to hold the hordes back
Just deploy in a corner
Salute
And say goodbye to them
quartz barn
That would be bad with rng
Glubby will eat that ogryn, causing the others to get swarmed in the airlock because they cant progress
ornate abyss
And lastly, this is the setup *I'd* use if it was my build
But you wouldn't use the greatsword with this build? DS instead?
Also what would you change in the build to make it more auric-compatible?
acoustic isle
yeah the plan wouldnt be to leave anyone behind it would just be timing charge rotations around corners and chokepoints and shielding up while people went for station charges etc.
radiant ice
But you wouldn't use the greatsword with this build? DS instead?
I hate the DS