psyker-class

[quartz barn]

Why

[bold cape]

1, funny fury
2, zealot was my least played class until i came back to the game like a week ago

[thorn cedar]

book was overkill before lol

its funny

i mean partially the issue too is that VoC was just a tremendously better and more reliable source for gold toughness

but there was never a realistic need for book's insane 7~ seconds of hard AoE CC and 100 gold toughness.

[bold cape]

yea

[thorn cedar]

outside of haha pushed boss off side moments

[marble crater]

And complete damage immunity to the other players

[radiant frigate]

ranged attacks become hyper lethal
book IMMEDIATELY becomes meta

coincidence? i think not

[nocturne dust]

I think you mean bubble

[radiant frigate]

bofadeez ults

[thorn cedar]

its side nodes are still shit though

[nocturne dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1313803542196391936/elmopsyker.gif

[marble crater]

We had fun with 3 bubbles, and dear god did we need them on gloriana

[thorn cedar]

so thats somewhat unfortunate

[radiant frigate]

CRETINS
I HAVE A SHIELD

[summer prairie]

what's wrong with the damage buff

[nocturne dust]

I'LL SAVE YOU!

[thorn cedar]

short, expensive, conditional

same as the other

[bold cape]

doesnt it last like 5 seconds lmao

[summer prairie]

10s for whole team

is good

[thorn cedar]

gotta hit the full pulses to even benefit

dont always need to do that

and at best it offsets the loss of your damage

[nocturne dust]

Book does more than 5 pulses

[thorn cedar]

since you arent attacking while relic-ing

[bold cape]

i think i use it
but only cause i cant really benefit from a single point anywhere else

still fine tweaking my build

[thorn cedar]

yea i can see it being an option

but i would never default to taking either

[nocturne dust]

I like relic just because it gives me a chill break from slaughter

😎

[thorn cedar]

already kinda crazy that its the only mandatory two cost ult in the game

[bold cape]

i like it cause id never take it in auric

so its something new

same with beacon

[nocturne dust]

Zealot that only takes one point in book do be built different

[radiant frigate]

i pressed f to let someone with a wound know that i left a medicae charge for them :)

good ult

allows me to type

[marble crater]

[bold cape]

genius use actually

chatblock crashes my game
i wonder if they updated it yet

[nocturne dust]

There's a fix in the posts, but I think they did update it, yeah

[bold cape]

neat

i have a glitch where my teammates ui disappears after one game
atlas told me how to fix it but i completely forgot

[nocturne dust]

My favorite is when I point out medicae to the vet/ogryn/zealot on barely any HP with tons of corruption and then they ignore me

[radiant frigate]

medici-mecidi-med.. medicae

[marble crater]

Oh, so that's why you said you couldn't see our wounds yesterday, at least I think it was you, makes sense now

[bold cape]

yea lmao

usually a nonissue
but mildly helpful information lmao

[marble crater]

I noticed that Atlas might be allergic to medicae sometimes

[radiant frigate]

yes some people do that

grievously wounded? time to go down the ledge of no return

meds? what meds? didn't see any meds

[nocturne dust]

It's okay

Atlas and Tren both stood directly in blight until almost their entire bar was corrupted.... multiple times. Until I switched to cleanse zealot.

[radiant frigate]

though i prefer this over the people that use it and didn't need it, while someone else is on their last wound

[nocturne dust]

I take hits shortly before medicae so this doesn't happen

[fallen spindle]

Deadvoid do you have a life

I always see you here

[nocturne dust]

no 😔

[fallen spindle]

Are you some kind of entity

Btw

This is the news

[nocturne dust]

my sleep schedule is all kinds of horrible because of chronic insomnia, I generally fall asleep in two chunks randomly

[fallen spindle]

REAL

[nocturne dust]

so I am always here

watching

[fallen spindle]

You are not the only one

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/insomnia-elf-how-do-you-sleep-last-night-great-gif-16211011

[marble crater]

[unkempt patio]

what curios do most psykers use

[marble crater]

For havoc or not havoc?

[unkempt patio]

havoc I suppose

[marble crater]

I use 3 health curious, with health, corruption resistance and combat ability cooldown in havoc

[unkempt patio]

alright thnx

[marble crater]

Sit in bubble and be happy, the extra health helps me more than the extra toughness with those crazy ranged enemies

[mystic pawn]

Hi guys X3, whats the worst stat for the inferno staff?

[nocturne dust]

Warp res is the dump

[half turtle]

is mettle on trauma fixed yet

[nocturne dust]

no

[half turtle]

tragic

i guess ill keep using warp expenditure

[marble crater]

I will never use warp expenditure

[nocturne dust]

you won't be using mettle either

[marble crater]

It's about sending a message

I'm just sitting in my bubble anyway

[tall spindle]

does uncanny strike still proc on the push attack of blaze force swords?

or was that patched at some point

[marble crater]

To my knowledge it still works, but I also took a few month break

[potent echo]

Yes it does

[fallen spindle]

I think that one

[upper sun]

what

i didnt know surge could target barrels

[marble crater]

I am not sure what targeted the barrel, don't think it was me though

[tired estuary]

it was me

[marble crater]

Ah, it was the lasgun or pistol

[upper sun]

🤔

it looks like it blew up instantly

[marble crater]

Shot it twice

Blew up a lot of barrels yesterday though, because purgatus width is funny

[upper sun]

idk it was still too fast

like

the only thing that does that is crusher empowered melee because it registers as two hits

[marble crater]

Look, I just spam lightning okay

[nocturne dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1316741685249708082/Smite_Elmo.gif

[patent parcel]

Do weapon blessings influence the blitz ability or do they only influence the weapon itself?

[marble crater]

I miss playing surge, it's all purgatus all the time for havoc

[nocturne dust]

Blitzes are unaffected by blessings

*some exceptions may apply

[cold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-26735574

[nocturne dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1313803542196391936/elmopsyker.gif

[summer prairie]

assail is affected by some when you switch to your weapon while they are still in flight

[marble crater]

Did they not patch that?

[nocturne dust]

My favorite casual build being rocketed to hardest of metas is hilarious

[nocturne dust]

They tried to

[echo root]

AFAIK blitzes still get / interact with current weapon blessings / perks

[nocturne dust]

iirc it works with some specific combos

[marble crater]

[summer prairie]

some blessings e.g. increase melee power/damage only

[potent echo]

They haven't patched out the newer stuff

So stuff like puncture works on blitz

"newer"

[summer prairie]

unstable power still works, maybe slaughterer

[patent parcel]

So Slaughterer on the Force Sword also counts kills from Smite and improves Smite, if I take a concrete example? Because that'd be sick lol

[summer prairie]

no

they can only work for assail since you can switch to your weapon while assail is still active

and maybe kinetic flayer

[patent parcel]

So in the end as a general rule weapon blessings, as it is intuitive, only influence the weapon itself then?

[summer prairie]

they are only active when you are wielding the weapon

[potent echo]

Weapon blessings are only active when equipped

[marble crater]

Maybe change equipped to holding in your hands

Because they are equipped in your loadout

[bold cape]

how tf is it 8am already

truly am the insomnia creature

[marble crater]

It's 2pm

[quartz barn]

EU

[bold cape]

na

[plucky flax]

Damn this place I am staying has really laggy internet.

I am dying to crusher 1 shot in havoc.

Hopefully next location has better net for some cheeky memes.

We lost but I did more melee damage than the chastise relic sword zealot.

[zinc phoenix]

@clear heath tried your build a few times, interesting setup. I ended up goin trauma after trying purgatus and surge. Surge was too mental on peril management and purgatus left me with no ranged option but great peril mgmt. Trauma gave me a crusher blob tool + a left click + some quick anti horde.

Mixing smite into my melee was honestly pretty nice. Lots of ways to use it to put stuff off balance before attacking and I definitely got value out of long range trapper shoves. Special for peril was interesting. Idk that it 100% works because it’s tough to pull off in situations where you really need it. Idk that unstable is the right pick unless you’re really going hard on keeping peril up. Interesting stuff, thx for sharing

[plucky flax]

8pm in SEA

I am in the future.

[marble crater]

Crushers just deleting you through the wounds in havoc is quite funny

[fringe folio]

Only in hindsight, being one shot instant death while having 4+ wounds and 0 damage is baffling in the moment.

[jovial juniper]

But this is bullshit

😭

[quartz barn]

You just got hit by ptsd

[marble crater]

I don't even know what happened there, so I will say it was a skill issue

[quartz barn]

The memory of getting oneshot was almost enough to kill you

[marble crater]

Crusher doesn't care

[jovial juniper]

😭 psychic attack

[quartz barn]

Its like finding a death mask in fear and hunger, you die before you even fight them

[main wyvern]

When I get home from work and it tells me I cant start a havoc because someone is ineligible

I am going to uninstall

[jovial juniper]

Make sure everyone got their havoc cache

[fringe folio]

A lot of people have had that issue, and had to use of their deployment thing or get someone to accept their chest.

[marble crater]

How do you even get your havoc cache? Just talk to the nice lady?

[potent echo]

Yuh

Provided you did any havocs in the previous week

[cold geode]

[marble crater]

I didn't remember how I got it last week, because I finished a mission right after reset and talked to her to see if my rank updated (it didn't) so wasn't sure what triggered getting the cache with 20k dockets

[echo root]

Do you play with motion blur on ?????????

[marble crater]

we found him

[jovial juniper]

Here's the funny part
I don't
It's off in the settings

Then I have to open the settings
Turn it on and off so the blur goes away

[echo root]

Do you have your config file as read only to force some other setting off by any chance?

[jovial juniper]

[molten saddle]

Holy fuck so much feels diffrent in the week i was away

Also why does maelstrom feel so much harder

[marble crater]

Because it's a requirement for playing havoc

And the people who are good already did that, so now the people who aren't as good are left

Also buffs to different enemies

[molten saddle]

Yeah i was on holiday so its cucked me🤣

Its rough

[echo root]

Didn't they remove the lvl 30 requirement for maelstrom as well?

[molten saddle]

Yes

Inhad a lvl 12

[marble crater]

[echo root]

Should have been 20 for auric and 25 for maelstrom

IMO

[jovial juniper]

I'll check later

Although I have no memories of tweaking that

[echo root]

If not you can edit motion blur in that file as well

Set the exact settings you want in that file then make a copy of it

Now next time fatshark wipes your graphical settings (every 1-2 months it feels like) you can just overwrite the new file

[dusky crag]

Auric doesn't let you queue auric if under 30 but a strike team with under 30s can

So if I'm 30 with a level 10 friend

Fuck it 3 veg gloriana

[echo root]

Should have been a lvl 20 req

[upper sun]

Nah its fine

[molten saddle]

Bruh its pain doing them

Atm

Im gettinf smooth brains

[upper sun]

switched chars at the end event for free xp on my baby

ez

[molten saddle]

IVE JUST HAD A LVL 15 ogryn charge a bloody DH on maelstrom. why why are people
Like this

[upper sun]

man

i had one dude

try to solo 2 dhs

dying to the second one because he started it without me

[molten saddle]

Hey bro atleast you can do havoc

Im good but not a solo hard carry player🤣

[uncut sinew]

based

[upper sun]

it was bad man that dude kept saying he hates women thats why he kept trying to kill dhs

the issue was

[molten saddle]

Im certain my team mates have a combined iq of negative 12

[molten saddle]

Jfc needs help

[upper sun]

he didnt combo club properly and didnt realize i was doing most of the damage for the first dh

funniest part there was one female zealot that kept staring at him refusing to go into the elevator

she ended up rescuing him

[lean berry]

hello guys

what should the stats be on a force greatsword for endgame?

trying to get some nice stats on a grey and upgrade it to max

and what does finesse mean on a thingie

[molten saddle]

Speed and bonus on weak spots if i recall

[mossy oyster]

Finesse is critical hit damage and weak spot damage

[quartz barn]

Also attack speed

[mossy oyster]

and you can either dump mobility or warp resist for FGS

I dump warp resist personally

[quartz barn]

Fgs has defence, which is defence and mobi in one

But ye dump warp res

[mossy oyster]

Yeah defences has dodge distance iirc

[glossy gust]

Any psyker mains here who could help me with some feedback on this build?
I haven't tested it yet (will later today) but I think it might work pretty well. Haven't seen anyone else run this yet.

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9db364f5-a649-42ad-80ab-62959e369d48/melee-psyker-soulblaze-and-toughness-overload

[fallen spindle]

...who has defense?

[quartz barn]

I mean i wasnt the one who decided that fgs needs more than 5 stats

[fallen spindle]

The fact that you dint got the joke make this mensage HISTORICAL

[quartz barn]

Sure?

[fallen spindle]

Sure

[jovial juniper]

Hear me out

Why no crack of bone?

You could stay at Scrier's for longer

Get that TDR node going

[fringe garden]

Warp siphon and SG is an odd mix imo

Not that it's bad

Just DD supplements FGS so well if you are using some crit chance blessings and SG

All that extra crit and weakspot damage turns the FGS into a monster

[glossy gust]

Honestly I really wanted it but couldn't get enough points. I'd have to swap it for Essence Harvest. But I haven't tested Warp Siphon yet so I'm curious to see how often warp charges procs.

[haughty star]

Get rid of the soulstealer nonsense its got basically no uptime

Also blazing on swords as a rule is pretty trash

Especially so with fgs because it's more than likely gonna kill whatever you light before it does anything meaningful and wildfire basically only ever applies one stack so that's trash for a melee focused build too imo

[glossy gust]

True, but it was either soulstealer or quitude. They are both kinda meh for this build

Quitude might be slightly less worse though

[haughty star]

Quietide is based with bcob

[fringe garden]

Yeah, quelling with crack of bone procs quietude

[haughty star]

The quelling from melee kills is basically turbo toughness regen

I would take quietide before souldrinker or soul stealer personally

[glossy gust]

Cheers guys.

[haughty star]

Also kinetic flayer is right there so it's insensible not to grab that

[fringe garden]

By all means give warp siphon a try, but the DD path would save you two skill points you could move around

[glossy gust]

Yeah. I went DD first but it really didn't feel like I got that much out of it. At least with WS I get good CD reduction and 16% damage.

(in melee) - In my opinion DD is still really good with ranged.

[fringe garden]

You get 30% crit damage and 35% weakspot dage from DD.

I can 1 tap a bulwark with it lol

[glossy gust]

But thats only on max stacks right? How often do you stay on max?

[fringe garden]

Akways

Literally 100%

Might be different in lower difficulties, though

[glossy gust]

w00t

[fringe garden]

Monster density is less

They recently changed how DD picks enemies so it is more often ones right in front of you. Makes flame staff and melee work even better with DD

[glossy gust]

oh shit. I didn't realize that

[haughty star]

Just use recon or whatever you're using for ranged to harvest dd stacks if you have problems keeping it up

[quartz barn]

Ye i have this exact setup for my gunker and you destroy everything in sight

Dd usually picks whatever is directly in front of you so you can just run through hordes

[jovial juniper]

I have to try Perfectionism with the recent DD change

[ripe obsidian]

I have started using bubble for my meleeker build. Welcome to Thunderdome.

[fringe garden]

Ive been running voidstrike and FGS and just constantly swap depending on the distance to my next target. Keeps Malefic Momentum topped off nicely. And I keep smite and warp unbound in my back pocket to lock the battlefield down for 15 seconds whenever shit gets real

[fringe garden]

Warp splitting is honestly a must if you're not putting Wrath on the FGS, too. It really shines with some extra cleave.

You might think about dropping Blazing Spirit for Wrath

[ripe obsidian]

FGS/Bistol/Assail/Bubble/DD for me

I went back to Auric yesterday, and it was nice to run around like a lunatic without dying in one hit to a basic shooter

[glossy gust]

I might just drop the whole soulblaze/WS idea and go DD with all the other good nodes and blessing.
But I’d like to give it a test first! At least see if it is as tanky as I hope.

[haughty star]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9db73837-3492-4b88-b9a3-80aeb44731e9

Try this

Pretty much endless scriers with all the bonuses from dd still applied and all the tdr psykwr has to offer stacked up. Kf is just nice cuz it's a free elite smack every 15 to 20 seconds and enhanced bossing damage

[rotund trout]

hi, i just got my psyker lvl 30 and i'm confused about builds, i like the bubble shield a lot, power staves feel too slow/clunky for my taste and i rly enjoy the revolver, any guidelines/ideas on how to build on that?

[vernal temple]

wow, ObeseFish is so lazy, they couldn't even bother removing the VI from the psyker helmet's visor.

or replace VI with LIII

[molten saddle]

Eugh penanances are just painful atm

[vernal temple]

can't tell, I have 5755 penance points

[molten saddle]

Bro ive been regretting not focusong on them before but but playing catch up now is not fun

[vernal temple]

well if you need help with any I'm sure the community (me included) would be glad to help out

[molten saddle]

Im at like 2700 atm its the location ones ans such that are pain

Nearly unlocked hard more for the twins but a pox buster hit it after which fucked it

[vernal temple]

I've had all of my penances done before the Grim Protocols update, so I only have to complete the newer ones

[worthy wasp]

What are pros and cons of Warp Flurry vs Surge on Surge Staff?

[molten saddle]

Yeah your sensible

[vernal temple]

Surge is primarily used if your build relies on the LMB spam, since you can get a double from those smaller attacks. Surge doesn't work on the secondary acctack

but Warp Flurry is good for the secondary attack and changes nothing for the LMB spam attack

[worthy wasp]

How good is LMB spam with Surge Staff?

[vernal temple]

with the right builds it's super good. with Scrier's Gaze + Warp Unbound you can continue spamming the LMB spam even when at 100% perril & you won't overload for a time (like 10 seconds iirc)

I've tried one of those builds and it's disgustingly good, but I don't think I'm skilled enough to actually properly use it and not pop my noggin every time I use Scrier's Gaze

[echo root]

Desperados, din bavian.

[vernal temple]

use all of the +5% crit chance skills, add +5% crit chance perk to your Electrokinetic staff, Surge blessing adds another 5% crit chance. you'll be spitting crits and double casts like nobody's business

but constantly spamming LMB will ruin your finger unless you install the "full auto" mod

[marble crater]

I have builds for each of the staves and there are people who have builds for revolver, I don't think any of those use shield though, because they use Scier's Gaze and are more melee focused.
Someone else might have an idea for that though

[rotund trout]

yeah i figured this is a weird suboptimal niche

everyone with gun goes understandably for scrier for damage

but the shield utility is too good for me

[flat shadow]

Which ones

[marble crater]

Some of the staves are also not that slow, Elektro staff has pretty fast and aggressive gameplay

[molten saddle]

Most of the class ones are at 50% ish but the remaining ones are ass coz theyre horrid todo in the current sandbox🤣 and the private match ones

[flat shadow]

don't even worry about private match ones

Just gotta find certain maps to do things

[marble crater]

Don't worry about them? This guy how will he get the best psyker chest piece

[flat shadow]

if you want long bomb/buying time(?? For zealot) the bridge in the torrent is good

[flat shadow]

I mean do them last

[split lance]

Rmb better

And won’t require macro and or hand pain

Oh and aim

If ur aims bad

Rip

[marble crater]

Just also get a macro for aiming

[split lance]

That’s illegal

And gay

[marble crater]

And then also a macro for moving and soon you have a self playing game and can watch

[flat shadow]

Even if you don't use it much it has big suppression

[split lance]

Warframe

[flat shadow]

very useful against shooters to spam shots in their direction so you can move between cover

[rotund trout]

yeah but it only works on like 2 targets no?

[ripe obsidian]

Full damage to one and way less to another afaik

[rotund trout]

yeah i dont like that 😔

[flat shadow]

Still has a primary attack

[jovial gust]

What changes were made that half of the ranged stuff in the Psykhanium is outdated?

[rotund trout]

throwing balls of energy?

[marble crater]

Revolver only works on one target

[flat shadow]

Yes

[rotund trout]

its pretty slow too i feel

both animation and projectile speed

[ripe obsidian]

Multiple patches and havoc release

[rotund trout]

it penetrates like crazy

[flat shadow]

They buffed them a lot

[rotund trout]

and it feels good to use

[flat shadow]

Have you never seen the videos of the m1 staff builds

[ripe obsidian]

In non-Havoc. Havoc enemies are chunky.

[jovial gust]

You mean cleaves? Because penetration is Rending

[rotund trout]

oh?

[marble crater]

EK staff feels also good to use, you can spam it pretty fast

[rotund trout]

well i meant it kills a full line of chaff

[ripe obsidian]

Again, only in non-Havoc

Let me find the numbers

[marble crater]

They just reached lvl 30 on the psyker, not sure they care about Havoc just yet

[rotund trout]

i do

havent tried yet but i handle damnation fine so far

[marble crater]

Fair enough, welcome to hell

[rotund trout]

hehe

honestly my main problem is finding a build that works fine with the shield

and staves animations are frustrating me

[marble crater]

Staves work good with the shield

[ripe obsidian]

High havoc enemies have 320% hitmass

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3375980903

[rotund trout]

yeah but the primary attacks are slow

lazy ass energy ball slowly moving

[flat shadow]

Purgatus

[ripe obsidian]

And then another 50% from cranial corruption

[rotund trout]

not a good fire rate either

[marble crater]

You rarely use the primary attacks

[rotund trout]

don't you want vent with inferno staff

[ripe obsidian]

Oh, oops

[rotund trout]

for extra soulblaze

[ripe obsidian]

I am too used to talking about Havoc, my mistake

[marble crater]

Well turns out they care, so you are fine and I was wrong

[flat shadow]

You could alternatively just pull out your sword and kill some guys while you passively quell

purgatus offers pretty reliable stagger

[rotund trout]

i didnt mean for quelling peril, just extra stacks in aoe

hmm

[flat shadow]

Bring wildfire and it shouldn't be much of an issue I think

[molten saddle]

Console

[rotund trout]

when i tried a flames build in the meat grinder it dealt a pathetic amount of damage

maybe i built it wrong though

[ripe obsidian]

Bubble and Shriek both work fine with purg. Bubble is just mandatory in Havoc because shooters will bully you. In Auric and below, Shriek is more fun imo

[marble crater]

Also console

[molten saddle]

How you have macro

[rotund trout]

just so were on the same page, purgatus is inferno now right

[ripe obsidian]

Fire has a weird ramp. Does super low damage until like 7 stacks

[rotund trout]

i got mega confused looking for trauma staff only to find out its voidstrike now?

[marble crater]

The damage scales exponentially with more stacks of fire

[marble crater]

I don't

[rotund trout]

i see

[flat shadow]

They call it voidblast

[haughty star]

Surge for lmb flurry for right

[flat shadow]

I've been using it a lot and I think it pairs excellently with the talent that quells on melee and reduces peril gen on headshot

[ripe obsidian]

Source: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959

[flat shadow]

No way you're stacking 31 on anything but a boss

[rotund trout]

ok and stacks are generated by which abilities (outside of the obvious staff)

and vent i guess

[ripe obsidian]

Perilous Combustion, Wildfire

[rotund trout]

i see

[ripe obsidian]

Well, PC generates stacks. Wildfire spreads them and eventually peters out

Oh, and a few weapon blessings

Most notably whatever the Blaze blessing is called on Trauma.

[marble crater]

Blazing Spirit

[ripe obsidian]

Y'know, I don't think I have seen a revolver even once in the last few weeks. Only plasma, bolter, recon, and flamer.

[haughty star]

I like pc almost always. Two elite kills to start melting a mixed pack is based as hell

[ripe obsidian]

Oh, and bistol

I think my only build without PC is my meleeker

[flat shadow]

PC?

[haughty star]

I especially enjoy it for meleeker

[flat shadow]

oh perilous combustion

[ripe obsidian]

I was only getting like 10-20k soulblaze damage in Auric Maelstrom games despite having the most damage on the team

[rotund trout]

perilous combustion

lol

[vernal temple]

okay, who do I ask to boost me to havoc 40?

[marble crater]

Have you been playing mostly havoc? Because that would make sense then, as almost anything else is not very effective

[haughty star]

Allows you to target elites and burn down the horde surrounding them is the main reason I like it

[bitter escarp]

Is there a point to LMB spam with a fire staff in lieu of never using the other mode?

[haughty star]

Probably doesn't reflect well on the scoreboard but definitely helps with the old healthbar when you're tryna just gut a rager quick

[flat shadow]

Immediate stagger

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah. Got to 40, got TS, and have now been doing 20s and 30s to get penances

[bitter escarp]

I specified in lieu of, as in, that's all he did

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, not even remotely saying it's bad. I just didn't feel like I was getting much value

[flat shadow]

I don't think so?

it applies like 1 stack of soulblaze

[bitter escarp]

Old mate must have had it on a macro, the repeated spam was headache inducing

[ripe obsidian]

LMB to stagger ragers and maulers, and maybe gunners. RMB for starting DPS. Short charge RMB for maintaining DPS

[bitter escarp]

Yeah all he did was puff lmb

[ripe obsidian]

All ticks except crits apply 1 stack.

[flat shadow]

yeah but the puff is just one

[ripe obsidian]

I believe quell-cancel LMB applies the same number of stacks as RMB, but notably lower DPS

I tested on some dreg ragers and got 550-600 DPS with LMB and 775-825 with RMB. Didn't test short charge, which would be higher if I did it right

[flat shadow]

Sometimes I want a cinema mode so I can watch four people fight their way through a horde

[ripe obsidian]

More detail

[haughty star]

I'm bad and so is psyker for durability lol it just cuts down on chip

[haughty star]

That'd be sick other than the lag when someone joins or leaves would be awful

[bitter escarp]

There were three flame staves in that game which probably contributed to the migraine

And also you wouldn't have seen shit

[flat shadow]

Once in an auric maelstrom my teammate had his back against a wall fighting a huge horde and me and the other two fellas had just taken down a monstrosity

And we ran to the ledge above him and mowed down the horde and the psyker said he stopped and looked up at us and it was the coolest thing he'd seen

[ripe obsidian]

Both are good.

VI has a better heavy chain for dealing with elites

[timber cairn]

VI seems to be the favourite but both are good. Depends mostly on which swing animations u prefer

[ripe obsidian]

VIII has a better light chain for hordes

I personally prefer VIII, as the horde clear on VI feels weird

But I love the heavy chain on VI, and I do miss it

[patent mango]

just try both out

im a mk6 enjoyer but i see mk8 users often

[ripe obsidian]

I have to spam push attack > heavy to deal with elites on VIII. It works if you don't have a horde on you. Not so good if the maulers are hiding in chaff

VI has fine horde clear

I just really dislike the feel of the combo

[patent mango]

mk6 horde is just light light light heavy

[haughty star]

I like 8 personaly

The overhand heavies deliver so quick

[flat shadow]

Force push apparently doesn't use peril on the greatswords

I couldn't really bring myself to like the psi greatswords

[ripe obsidian]

Why Rending Shockwave over Blaze Trauma?

[flat shadow]

I'll have to give them another chance later

[ripe obsidian]

It does.

It absolutely does.

[flat shadow]

it's brittleness? drop it on a pack of crushers and let your teammates hack at them with clubs and axes while they're standing up

[ripe obsidian]

I have blown myself up by pushing an enemy after a force slash

[marble crater]

Sounds like skill issue

[ripe obsidian]

I am aware of what it does. Blaze is almost always better, regardless.

[flat shadow]

you said why rending over blaze

I don't get many crits on my trauma staff

[ripe obsidian]

You are also not the person who made the build.

[flat shadow]

I don't see the point

What build

oh

[ripe obsidian]

And typically I get 30-35% crits on my trauma, which is significant.

[flat shadow]

I backline as psyker so usually I'm just blasting near my teammates

[ripe obsidian]

I'm not saying rending is a bad blessing. It works. I have outdamaged soulblaze builds with it before.

But the extra soulblaze damage is pretty huge

[marble crater]

If you use rending then you should also use flurry instead of nexus

[ripe obsidian]

And rending only affects a few armor types, I believe

So less useful with hordes, useful with elites

[flat shadow]

I think in a previous patch it affects everything except unarmored and infested I have to check

[ripe obsidian]

I typically only take rending if someone else already has a soulblaze build. I don't like competing for that damage

[marble crater]

And maybe EP instead of warp charges, if you build around Kinetic Resonance

[flat shadow]

competing for damage, or double stacking soulblaze and annihilating hordes

[ripe obsidian]

Competing for damage

Soulblaze only applies the blessings and bonuses of the first person to apply it

So if someone gets the first stack on an enemy with wildfire and their build is bad, all the soulblaze I apply is that much weaker

Those 5 stacks of Blaze Away I'm maintaining become useless

So I go rending instead if someone else is on purg or blaze trauma, that way I am more guaranteed that my build and theirs can function independently

EP/KR is hilarious with double wall shield. It stacks.

[marble crater]

Machine gun brain bursts

[ripe obsidian]

Nope

[flat shadow]

Which one is that

rending at high peril?

Uh oh

I better check my build

[ripe obsidian]

And mettle is still borked with purg and trauma RMB

[flat shadow]

It's not applying rending?

[ripe obsidian]

It's a frustrating talent. Even if it worked, it's just not very good. Veterans get 10% rending at a similar point in their tree with no restrictions

The reason to pick it is just if you don't want lower peril gen from ER

And Veterans rarely take their rending talent

I think only on some Recon builds? Not positive

Nah, ER is good at all difficulties if it fits your build

That doesn't mean it's mandatory or that it fits every build

But it is good

[marble crater]

I use ER on all my builds, including purgatus in havoc

[ripe obsidian]

Psykers can regen toughness from so many sources, even with a major one (mettle) being bugged

[thorn cedar]

I don't mind the lower peril gen, it's the one-two of that + lower toughness gen

and then youre taking solidity too on the way down

seems exceptionally silly to me

[ripe obsidian]

In Havoc in particular, you have -85% vent speed on havoc 40

Or like 37+, whatever

[thorn cedar]

yea but you make up for it by just having BCoB and or Battle Med and or TTS

[ripe obsidian]

Do not take By Crack of Bone.

[thorn cedar]

If you have a staff + solidity its almost as much as default quell speed even up at that level

[ripe obsidian]

Or Tranquility Through Slaughter, imo

You lose control over your peril so quickly

[ripe obsidian]

30% is not 85%

Looks like 30+ is -85% vent speed

That's fine. It's not mandatory. But it has a lot of value for peril edging. Makes it much easier to hover in the 80%+ range for Warp Rider.

It's somewhat less useful for Shriek spam builds, since you want to generate peril exceptionally quickly. On a staff with low peril gen like purgatus, that becomes hard.

Still viable, though. It depends on your build, your playstyle, and your goals.

[haughty star]

I feel like they could double brain burst base speed and it would hurt nothing

[marble crater]

I like the idea of having the charge speed linked to the enemy health, up to a certain point

[haughty star]

Or add like a 2 stacks of soulblaze node in like perilous range or something lol it's just not feasible other than taking for a inferno helper or because you want to

[marble crater]

So if you target a poxwalker by mistake it doesn't take that long

[ripe obsidian]

That would be nice

[jovial gust]

15 Force Swords and only one had any less Warp Resistance

[ripe obsidian]

It can be hard to tell what you're targeting at 50 meters

[marble crater]

Or make it select tagged targets, if you aim within 0,5 meters or something

[haughty star]

I keep coping thinking they'll buff ot every patch but they never do. Only good reason to take it is for flayer inferno or for funsies imo

[marble crater]

maybe 2025

[jovial gust]

Got a passable roll

[haughty star]

I can't even take it for fun rn because pubs are literally shit on a shingle

I'm at the point of frustration to where if I don't join on a in progress I will straight up leave if everyone's gear score isn't at least 450

[jovial gust]

I find it really funny that the only Blaze Force with a seperate optimal combo between Single Target and Hordes is the Obscurus

[marble crater]

Good enough

[marble crater]

I take it for killing a dog or trapper while the airlock closes behind me as I clench my fist for the kill

[upbeat schooner]

evil version of me joined my party :d

[ripe obsidian]

I take BB for killing specials and gunners that my team isn't killing when I have nothing in purgatus range

[marble crater]

Which one is the not-evil version?

[upbeat schooner]

lower :))

[versed pendant]

its red!

[upbeat schooner]

huh wuh

[versed pendant]

the frame

[upbeat schooner]

yhh like the emperor's colour uwu

[marble crater]

The both look a bit evil glowing eyes and all

[versed pendant]

space wolf :)

[upbeat schooner]

they truly were evil, turned out to play like crap and blamed others for the downfall of the mission

literally got demoted once and then lost the first try out of three on the lower level

just love to play with randoms it's so awful

[versed pendant]

daang

[ripe obsidian]

I've won every havoc 35+ I've done with randoms. I've lost probably 60% of 25-35 with randoms.

I think every 35+. Certainly a significant majority.

[split lance]

do one with me

ill throw

[ripe obsidian]

Okay

You can host. My host level is still 27

[split lance]

LETS DO YOURS

[ripe obsidian]

I already said I lose a majority of 25-35s

[split lance]

yeah but ur with me now

were gonna lose anyway

[timber cairn]

tell me veteran is busted without telling me

I was wondering why my inferno psyker just couldn't touch vet on havoc-40 on ANYTHING. Boss dmg. Normal dmg. Specials killed etc. So i leveled one up to try. Yeah. It's busted as hell

[prime elk]

[ripe obsidian]

Plasma Vet is pretty good. Or the ones I've seen at 35+ are pretty good. I wouldn't say busted, though

[sinful peak]

I always topfrag/damage in every havoc, and by a lot

skill issue methinks

[split lance]

btw

cant get on anymor e

sry

[ripe obsidian]

I am in a meeting right now. I can't play until later anyway

[timber cairn]

i think you've not played with a good vet then

[prime elk]

you're playing a build that has insane DOTs, and you're doing poorly in a mode where the meta is DOTs?

[ripe obsidian]

My experience has been me and the vet sitting at like 1.5m damage, then whoever else at 600k

[split lance]

OMG

[sinful peak]

I've yet to go below 1k kills/1mill dmg

[split lance]

how long is your game

[ripe obsidian]

Like 40 minutes?

[timber cairn]

DOTs are pretty useless on things that are already dead bc a vet killed them xd

[ripe obsidian]

Usually the plasma vet has a monopoly on specials and elites, while I am way ahead on hordes.

Which feels like how it should be.

[split lance]

HMMM

[timber cairn]

unless you're playing a more open map

[ripe obsidian]

I burn down hordes and elites that get too close so the vet can hide in my bubble and kill specials

[timber cairn]

then vet has mononpoly on everything

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, fair. Dark Communion has so many open areas where I feel useless

[timber cairn]

right^

that's predominately what im referring to

[split lance]

My games have been lower and lower

bc im throwing

[ripe obsidian]

I try to brain burst the gunner at 60m, but the BB is a beacon for the vet

[lone ravine]

BB is a spotter for the vet lmao

[icy wind]

anyone have build for telekin shield?

any melee and staff idm

[jovial gust]

I find it funny that of all weapons, Vigilant Autogun is not outdated. Here are some examples of outdated weapons: Recon Lasgun, Heavy Laspistol, Combat Axe

[icy wind]

still testing out stuff to see which good

[ripe obsidian]

Which staves do you like most?

[icy wind]

umm I do like inferno and trauma

electro idk last time I use it I fully charge attack elite 3 tiems and it still didn't die and then someone stole my kill

i'm madge

[ripe obsidian]

What difficulty?

[jovial gust]

I don't think any builds build around Telekine Shield, so just put on a standard build. Or look in the Atheneum for example builds

[icy wind]

heresy and above?

[ripe obsidian]

Gotcha

One moment

[plush elm]

I really enjoy using soulblaze

[ripe obsidian]

This would work with Purg. You can swap a few points around

[plush elm]

Might switch away from voidblast staff

[icy wind]

I would use the shriek or whatever that is but when I do my team just get decimate by 10+ gunner and 3+ reaper

so no more of that even tho it fun to spam staff or smite immediately after using it

[strong gulch]

This is what I would do. DS4 (dueling sword mk 4), deimos, FGS (force great sword), and knife work well for melee options with purg / inferno.

[ripe obsidian]

If you have questions about specific nodes or nodes that you want that aren't in this build, please ask.

For Havoc, I remove Kinetic Flayer and One With the Warp and move them into Battle Meditation and Warp Battery. Kinetic Flayer is a contentious argument, though.

[icy wind]

what should I use for crowd control

or hoard

[ripe obsidian]

Purgatus LMB has really good stagger

[prime elk]

RMB to delete shit

LMB to stagger in oh-shit moments

[ripe obsidian]

For hordes, it's a little more nuanced if you want to be ~optimal~

[prime elk]

Purg doesn't really have weaknesses besides crushers and somewhat limited range

[ripe obsidian]

Charge a full RMB as the horde approaches, unleash it, then charge like 30-40% on your next RMBs. This will keep Blaze Away at 5 stacks (40% strength increase)

LMB is is when ragers or maulers are getting too close to you or your allies

Crushers and bulwarks often require repositioning.

[icy wind]

what is kinetic flayer

[ripe obsidian]

Passive buff node off of brain burst

[icy wind]

ic

[ripe obsidian]

10% chance to pop an elite, special, or boss every 15 seconds

I don't really like it for Havoc as compared with other options. BB doesn't do enough to one-shot most elites in high Havoc, and the damage it does is damage I will already be doing.

It's still a good node, and the damage increase is like 7% versus not having it

I swapped it for Wildfire to pair with Warp Battery, though. Faster soulblaze spread means more warp charges means more shields

[strong gulch]

LMB for stagger (works on maulers and ragers), RMB on hordes.

You'll get a feel as you play for when to use either. If your team is good about handling maulers and crushers, you can do like 60% RMB charged to kill and stagger the trash mobs that are mixed in with a armor.

If a bunch of ragers rush you, LMB them.

If a horde is kind far, you can full charge and slide towards them and then cast.

[queen fog]

the pop from kinetic flayer doesn’t add peril so it’s a nice addition when u have BB as your blitz

[ripe obsidian]

I believe the pop from KF also benefits from Empowered Psionics (if you have that keystone) without using a charge

[marble crater]

KF on Purgatus is just nice for killing things in the horde, I like it very much

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, I'm not saying KF is a bad node. If I had 31 points, it would be my 31st node. But for my use case, I don't want to drop something else to get it

[marble crater]

I would drop Wildfire in your build

[ripe obsidian]

My Warp Siphon charges are rarely full for long, so the damage increase from Warp Battery is negligible. But 15% more cooldown on shield means I can play way more aggressively.

[icy wind]

purgatus?

[ripe obsidian]

That's fair. I've gone back and forth between the two a bit

[marble crater]

Inferno staff

[ripe obsidian]

Old name for Inferno. Better name. >:(

[marble crater]

Wrong tag, I hate discord scrolling up while I swipe

[strong gulch]

I'm still finding KF useful in havoc, BUT do what you gotta do.

Like if you need EE and gotta drop KF to do that, do it. If you are more melee focused and want every bit of toughness that you can get, drop KF for that.

[strong gulch]

SAME. I have no idea where I was reading when it does that.

[ripe obsidian]

It is useful. I'm not saying otherwise.

[strong gulch]

I know you aren't.

[icy wind]

I just burn 250k just to find perfect roll for inferno staff

[strong gulch]

yes

[marble crater]

No, we must argue until one side convinced the other

[ripe obsidian]

This is my Havoc 35+ build.

[fiery stratus]

only 250?

I spent 8m trying to get mediocre pickaxes when they came out

[strong gulch]

That's pre update soul crushery.

[fiery stratus]

good times

[strong gulch]

:boogerfrog:

[marble crater]

My cursed build from yesterday

[icy wind]

what blessing should I put on inferno

[strong gulch]

Normal havoc things.

[icy wind]

warp nexus and ?

[ripe obsidian]

Warp Nexus and Blaze Away

Blaze Away is actually OP

[strong gulch]

Flak + preference

nexus + blaze away

[icy wind]

ok

[marble crater]

We were 3 psykers, so wanted to cover all our auras

[ripe obsidian]

I've been using Flak + Unyielding

[icy wind]

now i'm dirt poor

[marble crater]

[strong gulch]

I say preference because there are use cases for different enemies plus there is always what you hate most.
Crit chance is universal, some like maniac, but unyielding helps with reapers, bulwarks, and bosses.

[icy wind]

I will just use these for now

combat axe bc it's the only decent melee I have rn lol

[strong gulch]

You can still buy grey weapons. Not dirt poor yet.

[icy wind]

I do have this thing but only 200 power

[ripe obsidian]

I might try KF over Wildfire again at some point

[marble crater]

I use maniac, but I should probably switch to Unyielding

[icy wind]

can upgrade it but I wanna save plasteel and gold first lol

[radiant ice]

That's not cursed, that's just bubble inferno!

[radiant ice]

[vernal temple]

looks fairly close to mine

[radiant ice]

That's a weird one if it's for Inferno

[marble crater]

It's cursed to me

[vernal temple]

not inferno. surge/trauma

[ripe obsidian]

I'm picking Wildfire over KF for utility rather than damage!

[radiant ice]

I'm mainly confused why Smite on a build already with CC (For trauma)

Surge I get if you mean EK

[vernal temple]

because I'm still learning to properly use Trauma so I mostly use Surge

is Voidstrike any good on havoc tho?

[ripe obsidian]

No

Sadly

[radiant ice]

I mean, I'd say yes

It's good

[ripe obsidian]

The hitmass increase just ruins your day

[radiant ice]

Is it as good as other options?

No

[ripe obsidian]

Ehhhhhh, I don't even know if I'd call it good

[radiant ice]

I have a build I've messed around with and had no issues around 35/36 with

[ripe obsidian]

I'm sure you can succeed

But that again comes down to being a good player

[radiant ice]

It's not as good as the two I publicly share for sure

But I'd say it's "good", not "great"

[vernal temple]

I have trouble understanding how to use Trauma. Like, the secondary feels so weak compared to secondary on Surge staff

[ripe obsidian]

Secondary has bonkers stagger

[radiant ice]

You need to build one of the two builds for it

And use the stagger yeah

[ripe obsidian]

Knock over everyone

Then they burn as they cry on the floor

You are the one who knocked the frog over when you use Trauma

[vernal temple]

so the point of Trauma isn't really dealing damage it's just to knock everyone off their feet?

[ripe obsidian]

It still does like 1k damage on a full charge

[marble crater]

It's both

[ripe obsidian]

It's a pretty huge area, and it spreads soulblaze super well

[vernal temple]

Then I'm probably doing something wrong. The few times I've used Trauma doesn't seem like it can chip away enemy heath as fast and aggressively as a Surge staff does

even a full charge

[marble crater]

Surge is mostly single target, of course it will deal more damage to a single target

[vernal temple]

killing a crusher with Surge? yeah no problem. killing a crusher with Trauma? good luck

[marble crater]

Eh

[ripe obsidian]

I will test how many full charges it takes

Hold on.

[radiant ice]

If it's single target, use your melee

[vernal temple]

just end up tossing him around like an armoured meatball

[radiant ice]

If it's a horde of crushers, you'll be grateful for trauma

[marble crater]

Did you dump damage on your trauma?

[vernal temple]

no, warp res

[queen fog]

i knock them over with the trauma then poke their head off with melee

[ripe obsidian]

Poke, poke

[radiant ice]

This is a rough idea of a crit/blazing trauma staff build for havoc

[strong gulch]

Trauma does less single target but does a lot of damage to multiple enemies at once. It definitely can handle crushers, BUT if you toss a single crusher to the floor your better bet is to switch to your single target melee and stab it.

[ripe obsidian]

I endorse the crit aura if you are secondary psyker. Primary, I want more bedtime stories and bubbles.

[marble crater]

More density = more gooder for Trauma

[vernal temple]

gooderer

bestest

[radiant ice]

This is a rough idea for rending spam

[ripe obsidian]

It takes like 5 trauma RMBs to kill a Crusher at damnation in the Psykhanium with ~80% peril and no other buffs

With full Warp Siphon, it takes 4

[radiant ice]

Whoops forgot to change the staff perks on this one

Neither of those are complete builds and should be tweaked for personal preference, but that's the rough idea of the two main trauma builds rn @vernal temple

(Flavoured for Havoc)

[radiant ice]

Between Warp Siphon and Psykinetic Aura, on Crit builds I prefer the Crit Aura

[ripe obsidian]

No KF, I see. Join me on the dark side.

(He wrote, knowing you've only been arguing for KF on Purg.)

[jovial gust]

It took me way too long to notice I was with the MK II. For context it's the entrance to the brewery in the older map

[radiant ice]

You may notice I also took Kinetic Deflection in both, a perk I've stated as not liking 😛

[ripe obsidian]

My dark influence grows.

[radiant ice]

Cause those aren't a build I'd run, it's just to give him the general vibe of the two current trauma staff builds XD

[vernal temple]

would it be viable to go with In Fire Reborn instead of Psychic Vampire?

[ripe obsidian]

Less so without Blazing Spirit

Rending doesn't spread nearly as much fire

[radiant ice]

On the rending one, no not at all

Unless you had an Inferno Psyker as a teammate

The crit one takes it though

[vernal temple]

what if I go Frankenstein on both builds and do this with a Blazing Spirit + Warp Flurry staff?

[radiant ice]

It’s very unfocused

Usually the hybrid is nexus + flurry if you wanna go down the Frankenstein route

You’d probably be fine in Standard/Auric but I don’t think that one you made would hold up to Havoc

[vernal temple]

Fair

[radiant ice]

You have a lot of crit based perks but no crit chance

[strong gulch]

Trauma does not have enough crit rate to make good use of blazing spirit on it's own. That's why it stacks crit rate blessings and perks.

[vernal temple]

what about curios on this? just HP with combat ability regen and corruption res?

[radiant ice]

For Havoc, yeah generally the safest bet on Psyker if you can’t be bothered with a full unique curio set per build is three of:

21% HP
4% Combat Ability Regen
15% Corruption Resist
5% HP

And what I generally recommend on my Psyker Havoc builds

[ripe obsidian]

I swap 2 of the 15% corruption for 20% gunner, but I dunno how much it helps

[radiant ice]

Not in the slightest xD

[ripe obsidian]

I want an emotional support zealot to cleanse the corruption.

[radiant ice]

Doesn’t help any Havoc breakpoints

You will die to gunner fire in almost the exact same time, down to a 0.1s difference

[vernal temple]

I was lucky enough to get a 21% HP curio from Melk while using the "mystery curio" option lol

so now I have 2 of those

[ripe obsidian]

I wish I had a good way to test. The Psykhanium is letting me down.

[strong gulch]

In Fire Reborn only works when there is a significant amount of soulblaze. It's kind of a toss up on use it or the other option on even fire trauma/ voidblast. In fire Reborn offers higher potential returns whole the vampire one offers consistency.

Pre ER (epyric resolve) I would definitely say take the vampire option because the only peril mitigation option on the left side was directly tied WCs.

[radiant ice]

These are my curio perk opinions if it helps

[icy wind]

is this just for psyker or all clas

[ripe obsidian]

Hey, jsat still takes gunner resist on 40 havoc.

I will cling to this knowledge.

[radiant ice]

Psyker

[ripe obsidian]

https://youtu.be/mRmbMDAbeQk?t=3935

[radiant ice]

Taking gunner resist at all is an odd choice, on Havoc especially

[lone ravine]

Does the list change much for other classes or?

[strong gulch]

Psyker on high havoc specifically. Not general auric T5s.

[ripe obsidian]

He takes 3x gunner resist, even.

[radiant ice]

Yes, Toughness holds more value on Vet, Stamina/Sprint/Block holds more value on Zealot

[icy wind]

ok I will proceed to take top 3 on all class anyway

bc I don't want to think much

[radiant ice]

Ogryn I have no idea

[icy wind]

xDD

[radiant ice]

The table has both!

[icy wind]

altho I always have ordo bonus since there is never enough of money

[radiant ice]

Left side is Auric, right side is Havoc

[strong gulch]

TBH, a lot of the really good players make odd build choices. They don't rely on meta as much and like to mix it up.

[lone ravine]

I assume CAR is S in all classes for your list then?

[radiant ice]

Yes

But something like Corruption Resist is bordering on F tier, but likely a C on Zealot

[strong gulch]

I fully didn't see the one side. LOL

WHY BRAINS?!

[radiant ice]

Where as it’s a solid Psyker choice in Havoc

[marble crater]

[strong gulch]

Actually me. I famously can't read.

[radiant ice]

Zealot really benefits more from:

cdr
Stam regen
hp

For two and one

Cdr
Block/sprint effic
hp

On the last

[strong gulch]

I do mean can't because I don't even see the words and letters most of the time.

[radiant ice]

Even on Havoc, Vet can stack toughness

Whether that’s ideal is a debate, but they can

[marble crater]

Well now I feel bad

[strong gulch]

But it's funny.

I mean it's does suck sometimes, but funnies often happen from it.

It's not a vision issue. My brain just deletes words for some reason.

[marble crater]

Like the brain deleting the the second the?

[strong gulch]

But also because of that I forget to look for them too. So sometimes I'm just being a knot head.

[radiant ice]

I know the feeling, I sometimes lose vision in my right eye. That degree is rare usually just goes all blurry

Cause I was shot in the face with a nailgun a few years ago

[strong gulch]

Felt. So annoying. Like yes brain and eyes, I wasn't trying to look at that thing or read a thing...

[strong gulch]

Oh feck. Yeah that is not my problem.

Hope the blurry thing stays rare and there's no other complications.

[radiant ice]

Just blur when tired and often bad light sensitivity

Not the worst xD

Just annoying as all hell

[jovial juniper]

That's a tag?

[marble crater]

Not from here

[ripe obsidian]

You have fallen off a mountain and been shot with a nailgun. Perhaps you should live life less dangerously.

[split lance]

I read both the

Its was annoying

And it upset me

[marble crater]

[split lance]

The dom lore is wilding

[radiant ice]

I’ve also been stabbed in the knee and lost part of my hand to an electric planer

[jovial gust]

I never get any value from KD at all. Any suggestions to replace it?

[radiant ice]

Kinetic Flayer

[ripe obsidian]

Perhaps you should see a doctor about always being stabbed in the knee.

[jovial gust]

Anything else?

[radiant ice]

Fucking autocorrect

[marble crater]

Are you trying to become a servitor or something? Damn

[radiant frigate]

curse this sorcery

[radiant ice]

Inferno Build right?

[radiant frigate]

battle meditation outside of sg always makes me go Huh?

[radiant ice]

I’d grab Emphathic Evasion

[timber cairn]

playing havoc, auric?

[jovial gust]

[radiant frigate]

especially with shriek

[ripe obsidian]

This letter-talk makes me think of this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transposed_letter_effect

[jovial gust]

Even if I could, I would neveer block

[radiant ice]

It’s pretty nice on horde clear builds, but definitely not optimal

[timber cairn]

clear the cobwebs off rmb you heretic

[jovial gust]

Battle meditation is funny. I think it once deleted 30 peril for me today

[radiant frigate]

what about resses

what if haemondost

[radiant ice]

Not of choice, but I definitely understand the weakness of my flesh. There’s a reason I love Tech Priests

[jovial gust]

Sir I am spamming the Flemtower

[ripe obsidian]

Battle Meditation is so useful in Havoc. I'm kind of getting surprised how quickly peril falls off in non-Havoc

Press R for 0.3 seconds and lose 50 peril. Where did it all go?

[jovial gust]

Did you mean?

[radiant frigate]

no machine can compare to the glory of the human body

[radiant frigate]

gone, reduced to atoms

[radiant ice]

I crave the certainty of steel

[radiant frigate]

you aspire to the purity of the blessed machine?

[radiant ice]

I love the new Mechanicus 2 trailer

How it changes that dialogue to be from the Necron perspective

Showing how similar they are

https://youtu.be/QS9g-K4qCVA?si=bX3RDDuQixMHvKCv

[ripe obsidian]

My XCOM powers were too strong in Mechanicus 1

[radiant ice]

“For the machine is eternal” becoming “For we are eternal” is 🔥

[ripe obsidian]

I ended up sitting at like 50% awakening for the entire game because I came out of every mission with <1 awakening

[radiant ice]

And “For we shattered our God’s and enslaved them to our will”

Necron’s and Tech Priests are both 10/10

And why I adore Mechanicus so much

[ripe obsidian]

I need space skaven

Age of Sigmar is superior

[radiant ice]

There are no rats in space

You know what I want in Darktide?

[ripe obsidian]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZSiQ8lG0fs

Spes rats

[radiant ice]

I’m not really into AoS

[ripe obsidian]

Also Sigmar is a Cool Guy

I don't play any tabletop battle games

[radiant ice]

I liked Fantasy just enough to love Total War

[ripe obsidian]

I enjoy 40k because it's so silly.

[radiant ice]

But for me the order is:

40k
Bloodbowl

Fantasy
AoS

[ripe obsidian]

Grimdark without comedy is just... bleak. Like, have you read The Road?

[jovial gust]

@near wyvern I would love to hear your explanation

[ripe obsidian]

I was dumb and read The Road at Disney on a family vacation.

[radiant ice]

Lmao

[jovial gust]

Warhammer has more than two dimensions?

[ripe obsidian]

I am not Pygex. But what do you want explained?

[radiant ice]

Bloodbowl is amazing

And was my favourite for a long time

But recently 40k has been slapping

[ripe obsidian]

Why there's the quell talent as well as Battle Meditation?

[jovial gust]

This question is addressed to Pygex. You claim to not be Pygex. That means that message is not for you, Karen

[ripe obsidian]

Rude.

[marble crater]

[strong gulch]

Wow ok

[split lance]

Hold rmb. Spam lmb

Numb nuts

[ripe obsidian]

Funny thing, if someone asked for the manager at a store, then an employee said, "The manager's not around right now, how can I help?" If the customer responded, "You aren't the manager, this question isn't for you," then...

[split lance]

Don’t be mean to my friends again

Or ur getting touched

[marble crater]

Why do you want to touch everyone?

[split lance]

Only I’m mean to my friends

[radiant ice]

He’s corrupted by Slaanesh

[split lance]

Do you not want to be touched?

Guys I have my gifs loaded up for whatever this guy responds with

https://tenor.com/view/lock-and-load-lock-load-arnold-schwarzenegger-guns-gif-7977879

^ how I’m loading em up

[marble crater]

You are not really my type

[jovial gust]

I have highlighted specific parts of that build description. Pygex says you will never need to quell with this build. He then also puts the quell talent in the build

[split lance]

The quell on kill

[split lance]

Oh. That makes me want to touch you more

[ripe obsidian]

In Havoc, quell speed is reduced by 85%. You can't always rely on a 10% chance talent to pop. Having 30% quell speed to offset the -85% is useful.

[marble crater]

Somebody help me

[split lance]

I’ll help you

[split lance]

Tbh I don’t even notice it wnymore

[ripe obsidian]

I'm sure you can pick Puppet Master instead of Solidity and do fine in both Havoc and non-Havoc. They're example builds, not gospel. And neither one is listed in "Mandatory" for that build:

[split lance]

It just feels like normal quell

[ripe obsidian]

I mentioned earlier, but quelling in non-Havoc feels weird now. I lose all my peril before I can think

[split lance]

Haha

I haven’t done an auric as a psyker in a while

Actually I did do one recently BUT it was so fast didn’t notice

[ripe obsidian]

We did Auric last night. I was running bubble meleeker, so not the most quelling

Still had PTSD around gunners and shotgunners. Was throwing around so many superfluous bubbles at every audio cue

[marble crater]

[split lance]

lol

I have an issue

And that’s that I no longer fear gunners

[ripe obsidian]

I definitely got too cocky at times and ran into bad situations

"I am immortal!"
"Oh no."

[marble crater]

I fear the start of Gloriana... and tren touching me

[strong gulch]

I remember Tren's sweet clutch on the last gloriana map we played.

[radiant ice]

Did you guys make it past 39?

[split lance]

Which do you fear more

[strong gulch]

Idk. I was absent from the havocs last night.

[marble crater]

He also glutched on Gloriana yesterday and then blew up 5 seconds later

[split lance]

Haven’t played

[strong gulch]

I'm down for them tonight tho.

[split lance]

I earned that blow up

[radiant ice]

Psyker mood

I can go ages without blowing myself up in Havoc games, join a new player friend in t2 Standard and detonate myself at the first pack of enemies

[strong gulch]

Was his clutch staring at a wall and just LMB shooting it? Cuz mine was. Best clutch ever.

[split lance]

The clutch in question

[split lance]

Ngl. I don’t remember a clutch

[ripe obsidian]

So it goes. I was goofing around in 15-25 Havoc for penance progress and I embarrassed myself with silly mistakes like headsploding

[strong gulch]

1:50 #psyker-class message

[split lance]

Oh yes

[split lance]

Good clutch imo

[ripe obsidian]

Huh. If you attack while quickswapping into FGS VI, it gives you one more horizontal light in the chain

[jovial gust]

I wonder if the Havoc multipliers are crazy enough to let Snipers survive Brain Bursts

Brain Burst without Empowered Psionics*

[ripe obsidian]

Don't think so. Every special I've BB'd has died in one hit.

I think most elites need 2+

Maybe not shotgunners, definitely gunners

[marble crater]

I definitely had specials needing more than one BB, especially hounds

[ripe obsidian]

Oh, fair. Hounds and mutants are tanky

[marble crater]

The rest maybe only if they are green, but hounds for sure without being green. I don't like it

[radiant ice]

Only if the snipers are greenskin

Otherwise Havoc 39 sniper at least still pops in 1

I don’t think I’ve attempted it on a 40 game

[strong gulch]

My favorite one.

[marble crater]

Unless there is a HP increase for specials at 40 it shouldn't matter

[ripe obsidian]

Does anyone know where in here I can find information on Havoc modifiers? I know there's the Steam guide, but I am curious to probe the source code.

https://github.com/Aussiemon/Darktide-Source-Code/tree/master

[ripe obsidian]

The last specials HP buff appears to be at rank 26.

[strong gulch]

If a sniper hust pus hardened skin it take like 3 BBs. Otherwise it's taken 1.

[ripe obsidian]

Pus-hardened Skin is "Ranged damage reduction equal to 1 - 10% + 1% * havoc order rank. So higher ranks have less dr, and lower ranks have more dr"

The wording here is weird.

I don't think that's how it's meant to be written. I copy+pasted before really reading it.

[clear heath]

i think they wrote it wrong lol

should say "high ranks have more dr"

[jovial gust]

What blessings do ya'll put on the knives?

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, I agree. I just copied from:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3375980903

[strong gulch]

Yeah idk lol. Fatshark code or other writings make me tap out. Like, we have darktide communicators for a reason. lol

[marble crater]

Uncanny and... riposte maybe?
Not sure if bleed blessings are good on psyker

[clear heath]

38

wait they made a typo at 26

that should say special hp buff 4

the one right above it is 3

[ripe obsidian]

Hence my confusion, ha. I just ctrl+f'd

My reading comprehension is apparently bad today

[jovial gust]

Well I just want a knoif to flail at Carapace and or monsters, and stragglers. Everything else I just spam Flemtower

[strong gulch]

Uncanny + flesh tearer / riposte / precog

Zealot mains tend to like precog but a lot of psyker mains don't.

I do flesh tearer for non SG builds and riposte for SG builds (because crit maxxing and EE up time).

[ripe obsidian]

I could probably read it if I knew where to look. I'm not a software engineer, but I know a bit of scripting and a good portion of my job is trying to parse technical language.

[strong gulch]

But does that apply to what darktide actually means when it says anything.

[ripe obsidian]

True.

Variables are only locally significant.

[split lance]

Can you write me a macro for warframe

I can send feet pics as payment

Thigh pics if ur really pricey

[ripe obsidian]

I maybe could. I know people who definitely could. I would prefer not to see your feet or thighs.

[jovial gust]

Should I empower my Flemtower before investing in another melee option?

[strong gulch]

I will trust you on scripting and other things tho; because I don't know any of that.

[edgy rover]

The builds that kills the entire waves with electricity use the blitz or the staff?

[ripe obsidian]

Bold of you.

[split lance]

Do it or I’ll send those pics

[ripe obsidian]

I'm quite literally a certified expert in Wi-Fi, but anything outside of that typically involves a lot of googling or asking smarter people questions.

[strong gulch]

Sounds like a expert to me.

[worn heron]

[strong gulch]

Sounds like smite. Surge/ EK staff is single target damage with CC on only a couple enemies.

Specifically EP (middle keystone) smite. Uninvested in smite is CC not damage and even EP smite is a PC, shriek (with creeping flames), and wildfire enabler.

[jovial gust]

AIN'T NO WAY. WHAT THE FUCK?

[ripe obsidian]

I don't love how the Havoc guide is worded. Maybe I am a doofus, but I feel like "1.10x More HP" is ambiguous. It should be "1.10x HP" or "10% more HP"

[jovial gust]

I'm skeptical about Flesh Tearer since I don't have any crit chance as opposed to Zealot

That is the same thing