psyker-class

[plucky flax]

So I had to get creative with some weird stuff.

[radiant ice]

Idea is constant SG uptime, throwing 10 shards during unbound

Pretty much always have the 40% movespeed bonus so can outrun my teams knife zealot with the greatsword out

[plucky flax]

Looks good.

My actually normal big sword build though I have assails and creeping flames.

[radiant ice]

It's ehhh

Basically

https://tenor.com/view/mcqueen-gif-9449693085032454841

Actual effectiveness doesn't matter XD

[plucky flax]

Yeah sometimes you just want to have fun with weird stuff.

[radiant ice]

(It's surpringly decent outside Havoc)

[elfin roost]

What does FGS look like when you arent running scriar?

[plucky flax]

As long as you have fun.

[clear heath]

wow elite aura

[plucky flax]

It's good to pair with assails creeping flames.

[fringe garden]

Man, I'm not sure how I never realized just how far away you can initiate the push attack with force weapons.

[radiant ice]

Long blade with a crossguard, often bloody

[plucky flax]

And some gun to quickly kill specials.

[broken acorn]

how important is quell cancelling in higher diffs, cus regular m1 spamming staffs is alreaedy fucking up my wrists lol

[elfin roost]

Huh, neat

[radiant ice]

Don't do it

And get FullAuto mod

[plucky flax]

I ahd elite aura, syllo with cdr aura and kat had crit chance aura.

[haughty star]

just make a macro

[radiant ice]

Means you can hold left click to shoot single fire weapons

[fringe garden]

quell canceling is for nerds, and is not in any way important

[plucky flax]

We had to divide and conquor.

[radiant ice]

Do not Macro quell cancel, that's sad

[broken acorn]

oh dang theres rlly a mod for everyrthing

[elfin roost]

"I can do x 0.005s faster, look at how cool i am"

[haughty star]

lol the mod is literally the same exact thing

[raven mountain]

Macro (or mod) to save your wrists is fantastic.

[radiant ice]

FullAuto is an essential mod

[split lance]

you lied to me

[radiant ice]

Doesn't use the Quell Cancel BS

[split lance]

and i wont forgive yuou

[plucky flax]

That was this afternoon!

[raven mountain]

Does the mod go as far as quell canceling though? I didn't think so. Just spams left click for you.

[split lance]

im hurting

[radiant ice]

FullAuto only fires as quick as you can normally

[plucky flax]

Wut

[split lance]

it hurts a lot

[plucky flax]

I am not playng now.

I am just vibing in bed mane

[split lance]

ah

[blissful pulsar]

What are good guns for psyker? I got Columnus V, Bistol, and Revolver

[split lance]

makes sense

i love you

[plucky flax]

It was ealier this afternoon.

[split lance]

ur tats made me wanna get more

[broken acorn]

kk cheers

[plucky flax]

I wanted to play big sword melee with the bois

[haughty star]

its uhh

[plucky flax]

Oh bro get it.

[haughty star]

little faster than .0005

[radiant ice]

Pretty much any we have access to really

[plucky flax]

I want to like start my full back pretty soon too.

But I am broke ass bitch now.

So maybe in 2026.

[split lance]

i need to be made mod for no other reason than to move people out of vc 69

[radiant ice]

I've seen people make any gun work

[plucky flax]

If you are veri cool you play bistol

[split lance]

what theme

[marble crater]

You have my vote

[split lance]

id do literally nothign else

[radiant ice]

It's like one of three weapons I haven't maxed on Psyker yet, what setup do you use?

May give it a go and level it as I want a Havoc break

[lethal lagoon]

@nocturne dust Baby girl, you ready?

[plucky flax]

I am unsure yet but I want to do it in this style I think (stil have time to really decide on style and subject). This style looks like it'll hold up extremely well.
https://www.instagram.com/ivan.zagusta/

[lethal lagoon]

[split lance]

@nocturne dust @lethal lagoon and i are ready

[lethal lagoon]

[plucky flax]

I use surgical puncture flak maniac to kill specials.

[lethal lagoon]

Oh you are already 3 stacking, smh.

SMH

[radiant ice]

Thank you, will give it a go. Is Surgical still worth with it resetting every shot?

Or do you use it as more of a quickdraw elite snipe tool?

[plucky flax]

Yeah quick draw but it stacks so fast. Even if you have 2 stacks that's still 20% extra crit chance.

If you like something else though go for it.

Like toughness on elite kill or something.

[dire orchid]

We need rending on scriers overcharge 😄

[radiant ice]

Ah right enough, I forget how quickly surgical builds

I love the blessing but not used it in a while

[dire orchid]

Actually if we got more ways to have rending like that it would knock DS4 a few pegs down

[radiant ice]

I get why we don't have more rending/brittle options in general

We gotta let our teammates kill at least something

But boy it would be nice XD

[north hatch]

What havoc level did that guy suggest switching to health curios

Instead of toughness

[radiant ice]

For me it was around 25

[haughty star]

the best thing for quell cancel is assaill

[north hatch]

Damn ok I'm getting close

Time to take a break I guess

[haughty star]

cancelled

[radiant ice]

Around then I personally found that Toughness began to get too low regardless, but it's not 100% essential

Some still run full Toughness

[split lance]

what res are you on?

[haughty star]

3440x1440 UW

[split lance]

yeah i thought so

haha

looks mad stretched

[analog agate]

Doin a 30 atm

[haughty star]

i have the pov jacked up all the way cuz it looks better that way from my perspective

low pov looks weird as hell on ultrawide

[plucky flax]

I am at 30+ and I run 2 toughness 1 hp with max toughness and hp sub perks.

[north hatch]

No stam?

[plucky flax]

I never run stam.

[north hatch]

Damn

[plucky flax]

Even in maelstrom.

But especially so in havoc you want the boost from your curios imo.

Otherwise you walk around with 70 toughness and 150 hp 😭

[radiant ice]

Weapon depending for me

2 Stam on a knife is bs

[dire orchid]

There is a mod to quell cancel?

[radiant ice]

Getting 6(5?) by default on the greatsword is enough

[radiant ice]

Don't go down that dark path

[north hatch]

Didn't people just bind quell to m1

[patent mango]

fatshark whyy

[radiant ice]

Plus macro-ing quell cancelling is straight cheating

[north hatch]

And then that's how they spammed voidsteike

[haughty star]

its EK that you abuse m1 spam on

[north hatch]

Ahhh

[radiant ice]

You can quell cancel the secondry for Voidstrike

[plucky flax]

I don't like it neither but I'm not super hardcore like the modded guys on vt2

Onslaught and something else

[haughty star]

i'm going to set that up rn to try it

[north hatch]

I feel like I could not get used to not having +3 stam

[haughty star]

YOU did this

[radiant ice]

https://tenor.com/view/jurassic-park-ian-malcolm-jeff-goldblum-should-could-gif-16617300

[north hatch]

The QOL feels so nice but I guess in havoc if you're gonna be scrunched up with everyone else mobility is less important

[north hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-buscemi-gif-20922935

[plucky flax]

I use deimos as my melee so the dodge is quite long

[haughty star]

likely consequence free as well. i have my m1 set up to where they'd have to look REALLY close to see if it's actually abused or fast fingeys

like 36 commands long with minute differences between every timing

[north hatch]

Wouldn't you want +Stam for deflector though

[radiant ice]

I love how hard Steve Buscemi went in a damn kids movie

[north hatch]

If you run it

[radiant ice]

GOATed actor

[haughty star]

it does scale yes

[north hatch]

People say that the quote deserved a higher class of movie but like

[haughty star]

HARD i might add

[north hatch]

Idk that was pretty fucking good in spy kids

[plucky flax]

I have kd and bubble

[radiant ice]

Kids deserve a higher class of entertainment

[north hatch]

I started watching boardwalk Empire recently

Michael Shannon and Steve Buscemi are so good

[radiant ice]

I've met a couple people who have met Steve Buscemi, and every single one has commented how nice of a guy he is

Seems like a GOAT in general

9/11 firefighter volunteer, great actor and good human

[haughty star]

i'm sure you already know this but KD scales with stamina

[north hatch]

Damn 9/11 firefighter

[radiant ice]

He was a firefighter for years before 9/11, but signed back up for that to help. Asked for it not to be publised and only a few pics exist

[north hatch]

That's sweet

[haughty star]

i used to have this dumb deimos pre patch that had deflector and riposte on it with +2 and block effeciancy as it's perks lol

called it my "shield"

[radiant ice]

I had an Illisi with Stamina, Block Efficiency, Deflector and Exorcist

Purely as a shield

[haughty star]

i feel like with deimos it's semi okay but illisi really needs it's blessings imo

[north hatch]

I accidentally leveled my fgs 2 times and now the warp resist is at like 40 something

[radiant ice]

True but then a swipe from Illisi could hit a few heads for peril reduction in shield mode

Which can bring it back into KD range

[haughty star]

oh that's fair

[radiant ice]

Which is why Exorcist + Illisi

[north hatch]

I mean Deimos has a really strong combo for dealing with elites

[haughty star]

yeah, i didn't choose to make the thing either it was just me making a meme out of a godroll hadron shit all over

thing was literally perfect stats all 80 with 61 res

[radiant ice]

Oh the dark days

I still remember when Fatshark put out a statement saying "Weapon crafting wouldn't fit the 40k setting"

While Hadron stood there at her bench like 😐

[clear heath]

immeasurably complex

[tight birch]

Me when my boss asks me to do something that might take more than 5 minutes

[near wyvern]

Pearl Clutchers

[steel flame]

im getting closer

[north hatch]

How much warp res are you going for

[steel flame]

as low as possible

[near wyvern]

Mobility is definitely not less important. The ranged fire is real and you gotta cross some pretty fuckig wide openings at times when you go from cover to cover.

[north hatch]

I ruined my 27%

[steel flame]

dam

the dream is sub 20%

[north hatch]

Mk so should I just swap my toughness ones with HP and call it a day

[near wyvern]

How much peril on pet?

[minor wedge]

Can someone explain this to me?

I dont quite understand what exactly that means.

[upper sun]

germany bad

[north hatch]

I got like 50 per

[tight birch]

They have draconian laws against gore in video games

[north hatch]

With my current one

[minor wedge]

Think my bonehead implant might be not workin

[near wyvern]

Germany players can't see already dead bodies getting flung by explosions

[north hatch]

But they have politicians that publicly record themselves licking urinals because they've been a bad boy

[steel flame]

only 42%

[north hatch]

Make it make sense

[minor wedge]

Okay, but we can cut things in half and explode them into itty bitty bits again?

[near wyvern]

Someone getting killed and flung is OK but touching dead bodies is necromancy I guess

[thorn cedar]

In Germany you can't dessicate corpses so ragdolls can't be interactable. In America sexualization is scary so the corpses can't have female presenting nipples, otherwise everything is okay.

[nocturne dust]

@lethal lagoon

[tight birch]

Or in China where they can't show blood

[north hatch]

That's so me

[tight birch]

So it turns into something else that apparently you aren't allowed to type in this Discord

[minor wedge]

HUH

[lethal lagoon]

[near wyvern]

27% roll gives 51% so around 30% roll should still be usable. 42% peril hits max creeping flames from 0 with 2 strokes as well, just barely

[north hatch]

Damn he didn't want any psykers to answer his zealot questions

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/ifht-carbon-dealer-mtb-mountainbike-gif-20969945

You were wanting some havoc?

[lethal lagoon]

get in the vc

[tight birch]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9da611bf-3ad5-45ea-adad-c1688476fabe/hechs-havoc-lvl40-purg-bubble-build This looked pretty interesting

[lethal lagoon]

Potato you still playin?

[strong gulch]

I was gonna take a break, but I'm down.

[nocturne dust]

No breaks on the havoc train

[steel flame]

when i have money again im gonna keep looking for my unicorn

[nocturne dust]

[north hatch]

This guy still runs toughness

[nocturne dust]

and?

[north hatch]

No I'm just curious

Cause someone said HP is better

[nocturne dust]

I mean, it's the same age-old war between HP and tough gang

Nothing has changed

[north hatch]

Also does block efficiency work with KD I thought it did t

[radiant frigate]

and the answer?

[nocturne dust]

It does

yeah

[radiant frigate]

bofadeez stats

[nocturne dust]

Run both

[north hatch]

So toughness is fine for like havoc 40?

I don't need to get new curios sick

[nocturne dust]

I'm not there yet, I haven't grinded that hard

[radiant frigate]

diversify thy defensive numbers

so it is said

[north hatch]

What level are you at

[nocturne dust]

but as far as I'm aware, it's fine

[radiant frigate]

so it shall be

[nocturne dust]

Currently 25

[north hatch]

The guy said post 25 he found toughness to be spookie dookie

[nocturne dust]

we'll see

[tight birch]

If you watch the playthrough video you basically don't want to get touched at all or you're probably fucked anyways, lol

Definitely need to communicate and keep shout / holy book overshields running

[nocturne dust]

Just don't get hit

[north hatch]

Ok ok wait so hear me out

If you're so squishy with toughness or HP

Why not run just 3 stam curios

[nocturne dust]

because you still survive some hits

[narrow herald]

Someone had to say it

[nocturne dust]

not a lot

but some

[narrow herald]

:✊

[tight birch]

https://tenor.com/view/zhu-yuan-honkai-zzz-zenless-zone-zero-no-no-no-gif-15019168685548587733

[north hatch]

Ah that's fair

Germany used to be pretty cool but then I saw stuff about how Nazis were apparently trying to make a comeback and a bunch of weird stuff about Germany's far right politics and then I became less enthusiastic about the country

[ornate hamlet]

can someone link me the guide how to download the mods again

cuz im just gonna reinstall the whole damn game

[north hatch]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/11cod2i/guide_how_to_install_mods_in_darktide_w_gifs/

@ornate hamlet

[ornate hamlet]

ty

[north hatch]

There's also a mod called auto mode loader i definitely recommend using it

[radiant frigate]

germany has never been cool

[north hatch]

Makes it so you don't have to manually input the name in the .TXT file

[radiant frigate]

plus they can't speak their own language properly

smh

[north hatch]

How does that work

[hollow current]

@radiant frigate Did you see my new baby.

[radiant frigate]

an impressive display, sibling

but to what end?

do you special twice before combat ro juice up peril?

[hollow current]

easier to hit 100 peril for warp rider.

I think it gives 53% on use.

[radiant frigate]

powerful

[lethal lagoon]

@nocturne dust This you?

[clever blade]

How do you guys unlock the force sword

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/highlander-sword-chris-lambert-polishing-smile-gif-17576247

[clever blade]

Do we have to buy it at the exchange

[lethal lagoon]

Just buy it at the armory, yeah

[north hatch]

Yeah you just buy it

[lethal lagoon]

Takes about 38 greens to hit 20 I believe

[north hatch]

You need to be a certain level to unlock it

?

[nocturne dust]

I don't smoke, unless it is smoking my enemies upon the singe of my holy warp slice 🙏

[clever blade]

Or I thought it will like vermintide and have crappy versions of it already available

Also when do you unlock the force staffs

[radiant frigate]

honestly the fgs running pose do be like this

moonlight force greatsword of judgement

[lethal lagoon]

Go to third person before saying that

[radiant frigate]

nuh uh

[broken carbon]

this pose is so cool

[lethal lagoon]

[broken carbon]

[lethal lagoon]

[fast coral]

there any way to get the normal voidstrike staff skin on the inferno staff? i only see the mastery one

[radiant frigate]

no

[fast coral]

rip, could have sworn ive seen someone run around with the normal vs skin

on inferno

[supple escarp]

does anyone have a link for the modding community or can point me toward pinned topics for mods?

[tough glacier]

PSYKER EATING

[dire orchid]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/277

[dire orchid]

you could use somethign like this

it lets you swap staff parts around

[fast coral]

always crashes me

[heady perch]

is Quell speed a good dump stat for electrokinetic staff?

[radiant frigate]

warp resist is

[heady perch]

yknow i keep forgetting about like a milion perks that psyker benefits from having high peril with

thanks kat

[potent echo]

It's not really that but quell speed stat matters alot in terms of numbers

Warp res is surprisingly doesn't affect that much

You can check under inspect weapon

[heady perch]

ive seen psykers do crazy shit with the electrokinetic and i wanna give it a proper go

[potent echo]

Like 10 quell speed is a full 30% quell speed

[heady perch]

delicious

[vestal cargo]

does soulstealer trigger on the greatsword special (no charge aka buffed weapon swing portion)?

[flat shadow]

there is so much pressure on me all the time i can never pull out my staff

maybe i am building wrong

[radiant frigate]

perhaps

[zinc phoenix]

What mode?

[flat shadow]

aurics

[supple escarp]

try to be supportive instead of top fragging

[flat shadow]

i am far from top fragging on psyker

[zinc phoenix]

Which stick?

[flat shadow]

trauma

the easiest cc staff

[zinc phoenix]

Aim at your feet

[flat shadow]

but the enemies just run past my teammates to me and my teammates are busy

[zinc phoenix]

Don’t full cast

Everything will get knocked and you can do a full charge

[supple escarp]

yea that is rough

[ornate hamlet]

do I put animation events into the mod loader command or?

[flat shadow]

and then when i have my staff out enemies are shooting at me all the time

so i have to spam lmb to suppress

[jovial scarab]

question

for soulblaze build, is perilous combustion the move?

[north hatch]

Like the loader.txt file?

[jovial scarab]

just get AML if you're having troubles with mod load order

[north hatch]

Yeah I said this earlier auto mod loader makes modding

Way nicer

[jovial scarab]

dont have to type in manually every time you install a new one

[north hatch]

Also idk animation events is like only used for scoreboard and it's kinda buggy

[jovial scarab]

.txt editing for mods was so early 00's skyrim

[north hatch]

I remember someone mentioning there was another scoreboard mod that doesn't use animation event

But for the life of me I cannot find it

[steel flame]

YOU CANT TEASE ME LIKE THIS GAME

ITS NOT FAIR

[jovial scarab]

what's wrong, thats the perfect roll?

[clear heath]

it's gonna end at like 50 warp res

[steel flame]

yeah....

[jovial scarab]

ah

[steel flame]

if only cleave damage was higher

[clear heath]

they want everything at 80 with warp res as low as possible

can't get cleave damage to 80 without warp res going up a lot

cause it's too low

[glad bane]

it seems like the mark 6 is better than the mark 8 greatsword 🤔

[steel flame]

if cleave damage started 20 points higher it would have been the perfect sword

[clear heath]

to generate more peril

[jovial scarab]

hmm

[steel flame]

i want as much peril gen on special attack as possible

[prime elk]

other way around imo, but both are good

[steel flame]

so i dont need to rely on scriers for peril gen when i need toughness regen and damage

[jovial scarab]

just put on smite or assail, no?

[glad bane]

looked at the stats and combo, 8 has over 100 less damage

other than that, its exactly the same

[steel flame]

the combo strings

[clear heath]

that's not as instant as a special charge

[steel flame]

is where the butter is

[glad bane]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1146926728623702116/1314403815557955725/image.png?ex=6753a572&is=675253f2&hm=5ece46a7e77a06ff942b45daa04ec9b3f6b57198a84be45f7c80341a7d7766ee&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1146926728623702116/1314403862836154418/image.png?ex=6753a57d&is=675253fd&hm=aa713fab8db0c2b3e71bad54fb133a29c57213a26df7bb0c3890cb6038255569&

both exactly the same

except for damage

[steel flame]

8 has alot simpler combos while 6 needs more work but has more damage

[main wyvern]

Chat I thought I was team ilisi but I am team deimos

I swapped teams

[steel flame]

no very much are not

[glad bane]

????

[jovial scarab]

for light, 8 has horizontal, 6 has diagonal

but the charge attacks on 6 are way better

[prime elk]

are they?

how 🤔

[clear heath]

but
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/487110864504094730/1311384845204848853/illisi_propaganda.gif

[steel flame]

you took a screenshot of the 6 twice

[glad bane]

no, i made sure to switch the marks

mightve just been a momentary bug

but thats good to know

[jovial scarab]

nuh uh

[jovial scarab]

[restive cave]

I'm pretty sure multiple youtubers and build testers have commented that the charge attacks are the same on both

[jovial scarab]

easier to get heashots with the mk6's charge

[restive cave]

wot

[supple escarp]

whats everyone thinkin for a side arm for the g8sword

[jovial scarab]

i dont like horizontal charge attacks

[restive cave]

pls show your testing

[jovial scarab]

source: i made it the fuck up

[clear heath]

he means the heavies i think

not the special

[restive cave]

Oh

smh, call it heavies then

But yeah, the mk6's H's are stabby as all hell

The mk8 was fine if all you wanted to do was spam button clicks mindlessly, mk6 rewards knowing the attack set

[glad bane]

my team watching my head implode as i fire one extra voidstrike shot

[restive cave]

but then the extra crushers you killed

[nocturne dust]

@lethal lagoon @split lance @strong gulch I crashed

[lethal lagoon]

we all did

[nocturne dust]

:(

[strong gulch]

Game said no

[nocturne dust]

Game said we were doing too well

[ornate hamlet]

Alright finally coming around to playing psyker again. Is there a general consesus for whats BiS for blaze force greatsword as I start playing around with it?

[nocturne dust]

no

[radiant ice]

Most people agree to dump Warp Resist

[nocturne dust]

I mean perks are generally carapace/unyielding

[radiant ice]

Other than that, definitely not XD

[nocturne dust]

and warp res is dump

[bold cape]

auric maelstrom pugs feel awful since the havoc drop

[nocturne dust]

but blessings are...

a warzone

[radiant ice]

That terrifying moment when modding

And the loading screen is taking ages

[analog agate]

Ya… lvl 30s gets hairy in havoc haha

[bold cape]

getting people who literally dont know how to play the game
i dont mind offmeta builds or ppl who make mistakes
but these ppl haven't even played auric yet and they're trying to speed into havoc for some reason

[ornate hamlet]

I mean havoc doesn't really feel any harder than just basic maelstrom

[bold cape]

im good enough to carry my own weight and make the occasional clutch but i cannot hard carry a team lmao

[sinful peak]

maybe at low levels

[ornate hamlet]

I've heard lot of whining about gunners but like.. Just kill them?

[analog agate]

Troll gonna troll

[radiant ice]

Someone hasn't made it past Havoc 10 yet

AHA! My tweaking works!

Just to add English/tooltips

[ornate hamlet]

I've only played a few games so far, yeah

[sinful peak]

125EG auric mael is baby mode compared to 21+ havoc

[ornate hamlet]

I dunno, so far it's just.. Buddy plays ogryn, I play zealot and rush in to kill gunners while he covers me

Rinse and repeat

[sinful peak]

try that 21 mission and see

lot harder than 20

[clear heath]

20 is literally heresy

[ornate hamlet]

alright I'll give it a go when mate gets home

[bold cape]

legit ran into a lv30 smitker who didnt even build around smite with ep, and still spammed it and contributed nothing to the team & got himself killed like 5 times
gonna be sticking to auric damnation for pugs lmao

[jovial scarab]

the hell what now?

[muted current]

Voidatrike staff dump stat? Or dump stat for staffs?

[bold cape]

smite is the only thing i dont like when people bring to spam
cause either they dont know how to build around it properly and they contribute nothing
or they do know and it sucks all the fun out of the game, mm yes i sure do love hitting sacks of meat that dont move or fight back
literally only time i care about what someone else brings, cause it affects everyone else's experience too

though this is probably a much overstated opinion in the community lmao

[analog agate]

Voidstrike is blast radius

Everything else is warp res

[radiant ice]

Gahhh

Why does Darktide have such annoying localisation settings

Oh... cause I forgot to save the file

Alright!

[fallow meadow]

What charge strike is good for?

[radiant ice]

I made a fix for Hub Hotkey Menus to work with the new Havoc mode as shown here:

If you too would like to access Havoc Mode at the push of a button from anywhere on the Morning Star, download Hub Hotkeys and replace the three files in the hub_hotkey_menus/scripts/mods/hub_hotkey_menus filepath with these three

I put in entries for localisation in the lua, but repeated the English as unfortunately it's the only one I know. Should anyone want to do the translation on my behalf, please feel free XD

[strong gulch]

Sorry @nocturne dust

[radiant ice]

Since the mod hasn't updated since July, I felt it unlikely the author would grab it themselves

[hazy moss]

why is voidstrike blast radius? i thought it was warp resist

[strong gulch]

Wow. I didn't even make it back to the mourning star. It kicked me to main menu.

[radiant ice]

I am now going to bed, but wanted to get that done as running up to the Havoc board between each game was getting so annoying

[hazy moss]

guys, is anyone else not seeing wrath and riposte in their hud anymore after the new update?

[strong gulch]

The better dump on voidstrike is blast radius because it doesn't offer much. WR is still an dump, but since we can basically just choose the dump now, aim for blast radius.

[fallow meadow]

You want to direct hit with voidstrike. Blast isn't doing any damage.

[nocturne dust]

Voidstrike's blast radius stat only affects the end explosion which is really, really bad for damage compared to the pass-through damage of the ball

[jovial scarab]

I need some feedback on my inferno staff build, lemme know if i made any ogryn-brained decisions.
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9da7fcf1-dcbd-4e28-af32-40a04666ceef/i-came-to-werf-flammen-and-pop-skulls

[nocturne dust]

and blast radius doesn't even scale that much

so tldr, blast radius on strike bad

[hazy moss]

[prime elk]

tree looks good to me, but would replace staff blessings with blaze away and warp nexus

also you could dump the stamina curio for hp or toughness if you want

fgs gives a lot of stamina

[fallow meadow]

Question: For the sub skill "Charge strike" of Smite, it that useful on anyway? Extra ~60 damage on heavy seems and feels horrible.

[radiant ice]

It is pretty bad yeah

I would love for it to be better, cause lightning sword is cool

[clear heath]

Works for me. is this only happening to you on the new weapons?

[patent mango]

its basically just a meme talent

[hazy moss]

yea on the fgs

[clear heath]

I had a similar issue because of a thing i did with mod.
I have all my buffs on a custom buff bar and i forgot to add the new buffs from the new weapons to the custom bar

[hazy moss]

ohhhhhh

[clear heath]

same for you?

[hazy moss]

thats exactly what i need to do

lol thanks

fatshark coding

i thought wrath was the same for every weapon

i had a custom bar with all the things in the game and another for sg, i guess i have to add the fgs wrath to it

[clear heath]

To be fair, some blessings are different on different weapons despite same name and icon

so i guess they just make them all separate

like i'm pretty sure heavy sword headtaker is still higher than other headtakers

[jovial juniper]

Not useful at all

[hazy moss]

hmmm ur right, wrath on the fgs is different from the relic blades

[raw token]

is it true that only the host's havoc level goes up?

[nocturne dust]

immediately, yes

host's mission is the only mission that updates

but your mission will go up to your rank even if you weren't the host... once a week passes

[raw token]

oh so everyones havoc level goes up but new mission only for host

so what if i play 3 games and win them, then play my mission and win it, do i get the new higher mission immediately after?

[nocturne dust]

yes, non-hosts have their mission stay at the same rank (which will fall below their actual rank if they go higher)

[nocturne dust]

no

[fiery stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/undertaker-coffin-just-woke-up-wwe-gif-5289384

@nocturne dust

[nocturne dust]

Your mission only goes up by 1 each time you complete it

[nocturne dust]

[raw token]

i see okay

thanks

[nocturne dust]

I got demoted while you were gone

Tren and Atlas gaming

[fiery stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/kthsjuui-kthsjuul-gif-23500358

[raw token]

ds trauma meta?

[nocturne dust]

Yes

[potent echo]

Wrath on FGS is pretty much needed after playing more

[raw token]

hate trauma

[nocturne dust]

You can use Inferno instead

[potent echo]

Then use another meta

[nocturne dust]

That's the current Havoc meta

[raw token]

surge it is

[potent echo]

Understandable have a nice day

[fiery stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-ngengerous-rage-intensified-shaking-gif-17692641

[round coyote]

I never thought I’d say this

But Psyker has my interest

[nocturne dust]

I'm up for a bit more havoc if you like @fiery stratus

[round coyote]

That being said it’s been a long time since I’ve played Psyker, so uh, I don’t really know what’s changed.

[fiery stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/kthsjuui-kthsjuul-gif-23500358

[round coyote]

I don’t really know where to start on the questions I have, so I’ll just lay out the couple major ones.

1. What is the frame work for a good brain burst build now?

2. What is the difference and benefit of each force greatsword?

[zinc phoenix]

well finally found a group at 24 so im havoc 24

getting people to join a group is the hardest part of getting up in HL

and needing to wait a fricken week

[nocturne dust]

1. there is none, brain burst bad

2. mk 6 is better at elites and has easier access to elite heavies, mk 8 is for hordes but has its elite damage locked behind pushes

I mean you can make a brain burst build that's decent

but like

[round coyote]

Damn rly? Neither of the other blitzes entice me all that much.

But thanks 🙂

[zinc phoenix]

bb is fine

[nocturne dust]

it's over-investing in a bad blitz

[zinc phoenix]

and it gives you psyk aura

[fiery stratus]

Assail best blitz

[nocturne dust]

You can run anything if you're skilled enough

BB just has the issue that you kinda never want to pull it out except if nobody else is dealing with the sniper 90 meters away

[fiery stratus]

assail is the best one for lazy play because you just dump them at gunners and ragers

[round coyote]

I’m not really a lazy play kind of guy

[zinc phoenix]

assail is good for mixing into melee to keep up maelific

[fiery stratus]

use brainburst and pick off specials

[nocturne dust]

You can definitely make BB work if you like

[round coyote]

I like intricate synergy

Bet

[fiery stratus]

the problem with brainburst is that its too slow, and whatever you're trying to burst is likely to get sniped by a revolver in .5 seconds

so you have to look ahead and get stuff further out most of the time

[raw token]

matt you overestimate my teammates

[nocturne dust]

That's why you RMB charge so nobody knows who your targets are

[round coyote]

So should I build mostly on the left side of the tree then?

[nocturne dust]

For BB?

[round coyote]

Yeah

[nocturne dust]

uh, you go center for Empowered Psionics

[analog agate]

I can join

[fiery stratus]

dank

[nocturne dust]

[round coyote]

Actually, is smite a good pairing for the force greatsword?

[nocturne dust]

not really?

Assail is normally what you pair for melee

[round coyote]

I’m so not used to Psyker so I’m kinda just thinking of cool sounding things

[fiery stratus]

assail is good for general clear, hitting specials, dumping at groups of shit in an emergency

[round coyote]

Hmmmmm I’ll take a deep dive into the tree and come back with more questions I’m sure

[marsh badger]

EP-BB with KR, double stun shield and inferno staff works fine. I think pygex has the build in his guide

[round coyote]

Why is smite not good with melee? Charged strike sounds inherently beneficial

Is charged strike bad or something?

[willow hazel]

charged strike does no damage and most heavy attacks already stagger

[round coyote]

Ah word

Since it’s a new beast entirely I’m sure there aren’t like fine tuned builds around it, but if assail is the best pairing with the new Greatswords, what would that build look like? Framework wise.

[spice veldt]

as reference, this is what i use

that's my havoc build so there is a rather overt focus on survivability

[round coyote]

Thanks 🫡

[spice veldt]

so you can probably drop shield for scrier's, drop seer's for prescience, drop toughness nodes for whatever you want, etc.

[thorn cedar]

disgusting inferior dome user

[potent echo]

What staff

[thorn cedar]

no EE eh

[spice veldt]

trauma would be what i'd optimally run cuz that's just the absurdly safe generalist staff

[thorn cedar]

ah yea

no EE

[spice veldt]

but i kind of realized that i avoid using trauma anyways cuz it feels disgusting to use (in the sense that it is too good)

so i just run EK currently for peril gen

yeah I have an alternate version where i take EE and anticipation instead, dropping some other node that i forgot

[ivory path]

Siblings...its joever. Zealot sword is 1000x more fun.

We need to have like a triple beam or something

[thorn cedar]

pretty big disagree there

but subjective anyway

[potent echo]

True

[thorn cedar]

i was hoping we would be able to bank two slashes at once but

[ivory path]

I can accomplish the greatsword special with a single trauma staff m2

[thorn cedar]

instead we got one boosted and one megaboosted

[potent echo]

Blatantly false

[thorn cedar]

either way idk i fuck with the thing hard

[potent echo]

Maybe 3 trauma blasts

[ivory path]

youre right, trauma does more damage to specials

the amount of effort it takes to charge up the greatsword special should cleave everything besides crushers in half

[potent echo]

Bring something else with trauma, FGS is for other builda

[thorn cedar]

not sure what yall do with the thing

there was a reddit post of some dude saying he can never get it charged and that it "kills nothing"

which i mean

obviously i immediately disengaged with that lmao

[spice veldt]

relic sword is a nice braindead generalist melee

i'm absolutely running that shit on zealot all the time

[thorn cedar]

vibing with the MKII rn

[spice veldt]

i'm mk10 since i am a simple man

but i'm warming up to the mk2

[thorn cedar]

i felt like 2 was simpler

in a way

chaining just felt much more intuitive

[spice veldt]

it's a little more complex to me for the sole fact that the sprint light/heavy and neutral L1/H1 are opposite compared to the MK10 (e.g, sprint-light is sweep, L1 is overhead)

the other complexities that i'm feeling are probably because i'm much more used to the mk10 than the mk2 currently

[umbral atlas]

What blessings for the great sword? Deflector and I dunno?

[night zephyr]

better to stack toughness or hp curios psyker?

[thorn cedar]

w/e makes you comfortable

[night zephyr]

what makes you more comfortable?

[thorn cedar]

wrath and riposte seems to be the universal

ive got toughness megastaxxs

but i have been opting one less +17% for a stamina since they just buffed our toughness

there is a good argument for almost any configration is the truth

[spice veldt]

i think it's easier to talk about blessings to avoid in this case, which are warp slice and blazing spirit

[raw token]

i get 175 toughness and its so nice

[spice veldt]

the rest of the blessings, you can justify taking in some way or another

i run riposte/shred cuz i'm right-side psyker

[prime elk]

i've been trying to see if i can get away with no wrath

and rely on warp slitting instead

[feral verge]

Braindead weapon for braindead person

[thorn cedar]

i did too and the answer was sorta no

[lone ravine]

Shred is kinda iffy compared to riposted

[spice veldt]

you are literally an NPC

[feral verge]

I

[prime elk]

hmm tbh felt ok

[lone ravine]

His dialogue broke

[prime elk]

maybe i'll test with wrath

[feral verge]

Have you heard of the high elves? @spice veldt

[thorn cedar]

with wrath it becomes hilarious but also overkill

[night zephyr]

this combo good?

[thorn cedar]

cause its like 8 cleave heavies boosted to 24 by wrath boosted to 72 by warp splitter

[spice veldt]

they both seem roughly equivalent to me
I'd take riposte over shred primarily, but i don't shred falls behind too much

[thorn cedar]

wait no

that math was awful

let me rip another bowl

[spice veldt]

caveat is that warp splitter is additive on top of existing +cleave

[thorn cedar]

yea it was only multiplicative with power

my brain did a no brain

[spice veldt]

smh

believe or not, sentenced to death

[lone ravine]

I just don’t like how it’s on chained hit

[thorn cedar]

now i no know own brain

[lone ravine]

If it was simply on hit it’d be better

[spice veldt]

i like that it's chained hit so that it isn't so free

then again, i also think that riposte should get nerfed back down to 2 or 3 seconds

[thorn cedar]

3 imo and precog up to 3

yea six seconds is kinda

thats just free real estate

[feral verge]

Make precog last 10 minutes

[thorn cedar]

yea you cant just call it precognition and have it only last 2s

thats just regular foresight

[spice veldt]

i would probably lower the baseline of other blessings and keep precog at 2
cuz otherwise you would just have precog up a lot of the time

cuz dodging is something that you automatically do anyways

[lone ravine]

Precog is now permanently active and disabled permanently when you take one melee hit

Simply dodge everything

[thorn cedar]

im down with that

thats just a hades 2 run

[spice veldt]

and is a free action that confers no time delay to your attacks besides you potentially out-distancing from your enemies

[umbral atlas]

I think I'll do Deflector+Riposte for now, since I'm not really built for melee but a tanky horde clear sword will always be a nice thing for your back pocket

[lone ravine]

Also one thing I don’t get is why the push “attack” on FGS is so staggering

[spice veldt]

too much stagger for your liking?

[upper galleon]

just how force swords are

really useful for melee elites

[spice veldt]

yeah the 2h fswords could probably do with another push-attack

i think it's thematically fine on the 1handers but the 2h fsword could deserve a more AoE push-attack (or, well, a proper offensive push-attack)

though i hate AoE stagger so maybe not

[fringe garden]

Make it an electricity stun aoe

[lone ravine]

The really strong stagger is cool and all but I don’t want to chase down the damn thing I sent flying for my thrust attack on the mk8

[fringe garden]

lol

[spice veldt]

yeah, i am not a fan of knockdown stuff for that reason

[lone ravine]

We do not need Vermintide scythe special 2.0

[feral verge]

You are the Trauma staff boy

[spice veldt]

i was forced by an agent of satan to use it

[feral verge]

Yourself?

[spice veldt]

josho

[feral verge]

We should destroy him

[spice veldt]

tru tru

[fringe garden]

You can't go around destroying people, buddy

[feral verge]

I can, I will and I have

[fringe garden]

That's illegal, though

[lone ravine]

Not with that attitude

[fringe garden]

You can't do illegal stuff

[feral verge]

I am above the law and beyond reproach

[lone ravine]

Our beloved says we can bend the rules a little :)

[fringe garden]

Oh, fair enough

[silent panther]

What's y'all's havoc builds? Bubble feels required but I normally run blaze trauma staff.

[feral verge]

LMB spam surge staff

[analog agate]

Bubble and blaze

[feral verge]

• bubble and the dodge on crit feat + funny staff suppression means I can mostly ignore gun fire

[radiant ice]

I prefer wall, for anti melee rushes

And my team is usually coordinated enough to stay behind it

+catches less stray bullets than bubble so stays up longer

#wallgang

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9da7040c-cc93-464d-ab80-71eb198a4acf/wall-lighting-havoc?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[zinc phoenix]

wall is good with coordinated group, bubble is better with randos

i see you on team "stack health like mad"

[radiant ice]

Only on Havoc but yes

I’ve also removed Gunner Resist a few times cause I think it’s such an overrated perk

[zinc phoenix]

i just dont take resists anymore

[radiant ice]

But in Havoc I then get a reminder of how slappable I am

[zinc phoenix]

does nothing

if you get a burst youre dead 🤷‍♀️

[radiant ice]

Yeah I feel that

[zinc phoenix]

i tried stacking 60% gunner resist and a buttload of TDR and result was still death 😂

[radiant ice]

It’s heavily debated for me what to get as 15% toughness is crap above 30 havoc

[prime elk]

brilliant. the patch where gunners become more deadly you removed it?

[zinc phoenix]

your build looks pretty similar to coal's build but he put more into melee

[radiant ice]

Stamina regen doesn’t feel needed at all in the build

[radiant ice]

I haven’t used it in a while, it’s a noob trap perk

[prime elk]

[zinc phoenix]

dom is right, gunner resist is junk in havoc

[radiant ice]

Doesn’t actually prevent regular gunner damage, only Reapers and Dreg/Scab Gunners

[zinc phoenix]

total waste of slot

[radiant ice]

If you are getting shot by them, you suck at movement anyway

And positioning

[zinc phoenix]

or your situation is hosed and youre still dead

[prime elk]

oh yes

the old

"just don't get hit bro"

[zinc phoenix]

im crab walking like mad these days

[prime elk]

classic 👌

[radiant ice]

And if you are in a situation where you are getting hosed… yeah no difference

[radiant ice]

No the old “If you’re catching strays, you suck. If you’re getting tunnelled, it’s not enough to matter”

[thorn cedar]

they dont stunlock anymore, you can slip out at any time

[prime elk]

the point is to buy yourself time when you're getting hosed to gtfo

[thorn cedar]

its easier than ever to not be hit

if youre hosed youre hosed

[zinc phoenix]

like i just had a game in carnival where the other three went down to about 20 gunners and shooters and such but i lived because i was crab walking behind a bench in the bar

so i dropped a bubble and picked everyone up in the grace period

[thorn cedar]

in havoc they all have fucken mg42s lmao

[radiant ice]

I totally get Gunner Resist for new players, but as you move up into high Havocs, or even really Auric Mael, job trap

[wise pecan]

question: surge on the voidstrike staff. does it only work on the primary attack, or does the cannonball also get doubled?

[zinc phoenix]

you get two big balls

[thorn cedar]

it do

[radiant ice]

Cannonball becomes two cannonball

[wise pecan]

nice

[zinc phoenix]

and lemme tell ya

you want your balls in the reaper's face

get em all in there

[radiant ice]

But anyway, I am not sure what to replace it with so it was just a default really

[thorn cedar]

one hot load of balls coming up

[radiant ice]

Stamina regen is really unnecessary for Psyker I feel, block efficiency is covered by Kinetic Deflection

[zinc phoenix]

toughness sucks too

[radiant ice]

Toughness 15% is useless

[zinc phoenix]

yeah stacking 5 in each slot, pointless

[radiant ice]

Sprint efficiency? Not a big deal as I am staying with my Ogryn teammate

[zinc phoenix]

"wow 5% of nothing is carry the 2 nothing"

[radiant ice]

I even debated corruption resist

[zinc phoenix]

corruption resist is legit if you dont have a person who can clear it

book zealot kinda removes that issue tho

[radiant ice]

Yeah that’s my thinking, damn goo modifier

[zinc phoenix]

well we were warned

bad goo

[radiant ice]

Although yeah, that build is 100% havoc and has some weird choices for non-havoc play

I like that the new mode has us thinking on unique builds for it

Those poor bastards without the extra loadout slots mod on console tho

[zinc phoenix]

i just save stuff on the gameslatern thing

i dont like modding, too old and lazy 😂

#psyker-class message this is what coal is running

[radiant ice]

Same for my favourite bunch

[zinc phoenix]

agent chaos is running bubble with warp charges

[radiant ice]

But I have some just messing around ones, staff alts and such

That ain’t worth the time to create on the lantern xD

[zinc phoenix]

honestly after tonights run im probably gonna go bubble/purgatus/warp charge with maybe an assail

[radiant ice]

Inferno without Kinetic Flayer is heresy

[zinc phoenix]

yeah fair

[radiant ice]

Especially on havoc, popping the crusher who is mixed in the horde you’re lightning up is satisfying

[zinc phoenix]

and i want psyk aura

oh well rip assail i will just cry when i see gunner

[radiant ice]

Yeah definitely

Burst them

Take the speed increase modifier and open with bubble-burst spam gunners so bubble lasts, flame the horde

Brain burst speed modifier slaps on Havoc

Was even tempted to make a full BB focused EP build

Cause just chain pop pop pop pop to an entire back line of gunners while in a bubble is amazing

[zinc phoenix]

probably something like that

which just feels super weird

[radiant ice]

Why Crack of Bone?

Inferno generates next to no peril

[zinc phoenix]

i like stabbing things to quell

[zinc phoenix]

yeah i mean thats the obvious way to go

[radiant ice]

Inferno without Soulstealer?

Heresy

I do like the addition of Perfect Timing though

[timber cairn]

ikr. works though

[zinc phoenix]

i dont value warp rider tho

not gonna be sitting on enough peril most of the time

[radiant ice]

With how little peril Inferno generates, taking a break to stab will bring you back to safety anyway without manual quell

[zinc phoenix]

yeah i know

i just like crack ok 😂

its too big a point spend tho

[radiant ice]

Fair, I’d swap it to Perfect Timing personally

[zinc phoenix]

yeah same

[radiant ice]

Cause then the flame stuff gets a massive buff, so does your melee

[zinc phoenix]

this would be the more tryhard variant

[radiant ice]

And you get a 20% move speed increase for oshit moments

[zinc phoenix]

just bubble bubble bubble as fast as possible

with damage as a secondary element

[radiant ice]

I’d maybe still take the extra attack speed for melee

If you’re greatswording

[zinc phoenix]

i want it but i think i can get away with just push light light

[radiant ice]

So you can stab Crusher heads without waiting half a year

[zinc phoenix]

crushers are indeed an issue

[radiant ice]

Cause crushers laugh at both bb and inferno

[zinc phoenix]

yep

[radiant ice]

You really need a stabby armour pen melee, and the 10% increase is real nice

[timber cairn]

bloody shotgunners laugh at BB at havoc 25+

[zinc phoenix]

anything with the tough skin mod

[radiant ice]

Why would you BB a shotgunner?

[timber cairn]

boredom ig

did it once and had to doubletake

[radiant ice]

In a situation where a shotgun is close enough to hit you, you really should have anything else to hit them xD

As much as I love BB

[radiant ice]

Fair xD

[zinc phoenix]

shotgun are nasty now

the new mauler

[umbral dove]

wait really

[radiant ice]

Electrostaff ftw

“Go on hit me”

Staring at them like

[umbral dove]

what about the old shotguns

[zinc phoenix]

and the rager carapace change is messin with me

[radiant ice]

https://tenor.com/view/want-you-to-do-it-gif-20550570

zap

zap zap zap

[umbral dove]

also how good is the new force greatsword for boss damage?

[timber cairn]

you prefer Sparks+GS to Fires+Dueling?

[radiant ice]

After testing like 30 Havoc builds, mixing all the nodes, weapons and such we have. I land this as my favourite havoc build: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9da7040c-cc93-464d-ab80-71eb198a4acf/wall-lighting-havoc?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[timber cairn]

have found them to be underwhelming in terms of boss dmg. honestly.

but that might just be me

[radiant ice]

It makes way less sense in standard and auric, but is amazing in Havoc

I do need to swap Gunner Resist though

It’s not pulling its weight in Havoc

[timber cairn]

i honestly dont notice a diff with +60% gunner or 0%

you get hit, you feel it either way

[radiant ice]

Yeah same really

But with that build it was just “Nothing is great there”

[timber cairn]

im doing stam regen, combat ability + toughness

[umbral dove]

I’ve always found the nornal force sword to just be reliable tbh

just activate and bam

[radiant ice]

And the curios already had gunner resist from when I was a bigger noob than I am now

[mental grail]

bro am I tripping or isn't this a veteran stance

[umbral dove]

but the mega charged swing for the greatsword feels so satisfying

[timber cairn]

Aside from brain burst spam or laspistol with unyielding you're always gonna get out-DPS'd by the other classes on boss dmg

[umbral dove]

just wish the charge didn’t decay over time

[umbral dove]

yeah

I hope bolt pistol gets a change at some point

[timid yacht]

I noticed this too
my stance has been taken from me and i am not happy ;-;

[radiant ice]

+toughness caps at 15% and that is nothing on high havoc I find
Stamina regen, we already have the highest as Psyker and its way more than enough for my build

[umbral dove]

feels like a worse las pistol but I love it nonetheless

[mental grail]

bruh I can't magdump into a rager blob anymore I have to AIM

[radiant ice]

Both are good perks but just feel poor fits for the build

[mental grail]

it's pissing me off

[timber cairn]

mhmm

[radiant ice]

As I said earlier, thinking of rocking corruption resistance for anti-goo

Normally a meme perk but I see it’s havoc value

[umbral dove]

I love anti corrupt

I like using it with the anti corrupt medi pack perk on veteran

[timber cairn]

+90% toughness regen again 😁

[umbral dove]

purple be gone

[timber cairn]

jk

[radiant ice]

If we still had grace and only the reduction, actually not terrible

Without grace… yeah even worse than usual xD

You could then at least rock the launch Zealot build of tiny toughness that ticks back to 1/2 really quick

So every second you get a damage immunity

But alas, they stole our grace

[round coyote]

How do you build the greatsword? Like, perks, blessings, the like

[radiant ice]

Dump warp resist, take wrath

The rest is personal preference

[timid yacht]

it honestly wouldnt be that bad if it wasnt just artificially inflated difficulty by just throwing lots of trash gunners at us

[radiant ice]

I love Havoc

Finally Darktide content that is hard

[plucky idol]

I'm sure you all are tired of this question already, but what's the dump stat on the new greatsword?

[timber cairn]

Maybe they're not overtuned. Maybe they were just always undertuned

[timber cairn]

warp resist

[timid yacht]

ive gone to 25 for the cosmetic and im not really bothered about going further

[round coyote]

Okay 1 more question

If I were looking to make a scriers build for said greatsword, what are some key points to take?

[radiant ice]

Literally read like two messages up

[plucky idol]

Thanks guys.

[strange venture]

so why brain smash if you don't mind me asking? also really late

[radiant ice]

I have a speed build for it

[round coyote]

Pls do

[timid yacht]

no, im not bothered about the tuning

its the fact that it just seems to be the same old "hard = more shooters" bs which is just shite

[timber cairn]

build for scriers Greatsword. Has a high skill ceiling, and lacks CC.

[radiant ice]

You can get +40% move speed on the greatsword and outrun zealots

[radiant ice]

Nah missing some key things here

[mental grail]

If I hear this question again I'm killing myself

[timber cairn]

im a scriers scrub, so just going off what others have shared

[prime elk]

no warp rider 🤔

[round coyote]

What’s the dump stat girlboss

[prime elk]

be a man and commit right side

[radiant ice]

This is a Scriers Greatsword build

[mental grail]

yeah, because he's based

[round coyote]

🫡 thanks champ

[plucky idol]

I checked the pinned messages and there wasn't anything for that, so I'd expect more.

[prime elk]

see this is a build with some facial hair

[timber cairn]

reason for the left side is for the psykinetic arm + seers

you're missing a lot of CD perks theree

[strange venture]

so question when do I activate the uhhh scriers?

[prime elk]

i don't think CD is that important on a SG build tbh

[radiant ice]

Flow is:

Activate Sciers Gaze
Blender at head height to quell
When it expires throw 10 shards at 100% peril, you won’t explode
After shards there should only be 5 seconds or so until Scriers cooldown
Repeat

[mental grail]

off vibes

[prime elk]

SG's CD is already really short

[mental grail]

^

[radiant ice]

@strange venture read the flow I just posted xD

[radiant ice]

Yeah, it’s tiny

[mental grail]

whenever a boss shows up, when ambushed, when fighting a crowd, when clutching

[radiant ice]

With that flow above, literally the second you throw your first sword swing

[mental grail]

really, whenever

[radiant ice]

You should only have 5 seconds between shards and new Scriers if everything lasts that long

[strange venture]

alright. Wasn't sure since I was trying to use it earlier since I only ever used uhhh lightning and shriek

[mental grail]

smyker detected

[radiant ice]

During those 5 I usually just quell

Purely so Scriers can last a tad longer

Or blender enemy heads with Crack of Bone if I’m still in a horde

[strange venture]

I just used that cause It was funny using unlimted power

[radiant ice]

But after a full 30 stack Scriers and 10 max cleave shards, there is rarely ever a horde left on CD

The whole time you will be jumping between 20% move speed bonus at rest and 40% during fighting

So you can zip around faster than a knife zealot

[round coyote]

What range weapon do you use for that build? If it matters

I was thinking maybe a recon

[radiant ice]

It doesn’t work too well in Havoc, but in Auric Mael, Auric and Standard, you can show Zealots what real speed (and cocaine energy) is

[strong gulch]

@nocturne dust @analog agate gg

[radiant ice]

Any monstrosity crit killer

[strange venture]

I use recon lasgun if that matters

[radiant ice]

I like revolver with Unyielding damage, but literally any gun you are comfortable killing monstrosities with

[strange venture]

I just point and spray

[radiant ice]

Grab attacks can really fuck your Scriers flow

So melee attacking bosses with that build can be a gamble if you don’t know their move patterns exactly

Much easier to activate SG and focus their weakspot with a crit based gun

Other than that, it’s a sword build. Use the sword

[strange venture]

and when should I use the crystals

just anytime I'm not swording?

[radiant ice]

No, back to the flow

Warp Unbound means you get 10 seconds of 100% peril

Peril scales how much cleave the shards do in that build

Each shard can hit 10-11 people

[hazy moss]

why grab the node that 10% to quell 10% peril on kill tho?

[strange venture]

Flow? Sorry am missing something and an idiot

[radiant ice]

Use the shards as Scriers ends, during the warp unbound phase, and it’s possible to kill 100+ enemies in 7 seconds or so

[radiant ice]

Why? That would get no benefit

In melee, Crack of Bone keeps you at perma <5%

Outside that, you want your shards and high peril

[hazy moss]

that node is picked here

[radiant ice]

Oh sorry, my brain went splat

It’s 5am and no sleep xD

[hazy moss]

i understand :p

very solid build tho

[radiant ice]

Honestly either it or Perfect Timing are great

Remembering back, I picked it cause it’s mainly horde blendering in melee

[hazy moss]

ive been rocking the node that gives toughness damage reduction scaling with peril

[radiant ice]

So it typically extends your 30 stack of SG when the buildup gets insane another 5-10 seconds

[hazy moss]

helps me live a bit more

[haughty star]

i been thinking about dropping my unstable on my melleker to go full node scriers lol

[radiant ice]

But it’s really not great

Perfect Timing doesn’t do much either though as the only warp damage is sword arc and shards

Neither really change at all with the 15% from perfect

So I value 5-10 seconds of more SG a little higher

Although this is a fun build not a meta build xD

You will get shot to death quick running it in Havoc

Tears up Auric and Auric Mael with the horde density though

[hazy moss]

ive been wondering

if im running a gun with unyielding on it to deal with bosses, should i swap from cara unyielding on my fgs to cara maniac?

[radiant ice]

On that setup, I use crit chance and either flak or maniac on greatsword

[summer prairie]

could try cara elites

[radiant ice]

With unyielding on my gun

[summer prairie]

or the other something for the beam

[radiant ice]

I feel that gives a better spread of damage that suits the flow of the build more

Could also go flak + maniac I suppose

[hazy moss]

which other something?

[summer prairie]

I haven't looked at beam breakpoints

[radiant ice]

But yeah, I shift unyielding to gun on that build regardless

[hazy moss]

idk the thing thats keeping me from maniacs is i feel like when u have dd and sg pumping you 1 shot muties and ragers anwyays

[radiant ice]

So find it not needed on sword

Yeah, same

I like flak just for the occasional swing into a horde catching them

[hazy moss]

flak might be good for scab ragers too i reckon

[radiant ice]

Yeah

That’s what I meant to say, for ragers

Since you should be swinging at head height

Flak and Cara works too for adding Maulers to that somewhat

But they are slightly taller so you should be getting the top of their chest with swings that hit everything else’s heads

Also means if you swing a little low, you’ll still hurt the rager

[hazy moss]

which mk have u been using?

for refrence

[radiant ice]

Mk6 is considered the meta, but I prefer the Mk8

I use both, but the 8 has won my heart

[hazy moss]

idk the psyker atheneum recommends the mk8 and ive seen some folks in this chat ready to die for the mk8

im personally more of a fan of the mk6

[radiant ice]

Both are amazing really

When it comes to the greatsword marks, this gif best sums up my opinion