psyker-class

[wind spruce]

Precognition over the other scriers modifier

[patent mango]

remember to always take perilous assault for any build

[molten prawn]

I've been enjoying shredder

[upper sun]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYbXXB16Now

[wind spruce]

This guy gets it

[molten prawn]

Mostly to stagger and regen toughness

[wind spruce]

Warudo look at my build lmao

This is with recon

And I hate it

[patent mango]

funny

[marble crater]

Uma doesn't know shit about anything

[plucky flax]

Have you seen this build?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1314261062325112965/image.png?ex=6753207f&is=6751ceff&hm=e7b3021974b5b142ec11a08990a32a5537082dce5f9e605d3eae5922671033ec&

[patent mango]

goofy 2 nodes just sitting there

[upper sun]

he knows too much 😭

[patent mango]

dies

[plucky flax]

Very normal gaming.

[patent mango]

node enjoyer

[upper sun]

nodemaxxing

[wind spruce]

What the fuck

[plucky flax]

Auric maelstrom ready.

[wind spruce]

Don't ever run that

[plucky flax]

It gives you power to do things like this
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1314264651030335529/Desktop_2024.12.05_-_16.17.35.13.mp4?ex=675323d6&is=6751d256&hm=bfa8e8320084fcac1abc075e6d80f7dc1033b3b5a89bc869f2a2931eb95415d4&

[marble crater]

I have seen so many cursed builds the last few days, I don't know which are actually viable and which are trolling

[plucky flax]

But more seriously it's cool
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1314263431511146567/Desktop_2024.12.05_-_16.12.40.11.mp4?ex=675322b3&is=6751d133&hm=0ef4e2251ae9d88aeb9386d43dd912005661a7981a51ff06cf65168b72ac3a08&

[upper sun]

does it have fgs? if so then true and valid

[radiant ice]

Oh is the cosmetic shop rolling today or did we just get it early with the Krieg stuff?

[upper sun]

i was pretty shooketh when the entire hoard vanished

[patent mango]

maybe i should just go bacck to heavy las

but its so goofy looking guh

[plucky flax]

https://tenor.com/view/bloodborne-ludwig-my-true-mentor-my-guiding-moonlight-moonlight-gif-20321022

My mentor

[restive cave]

it happened with the patch

[radiant ice]

Huh? No it didn’t?

The Krieg stuff came a few hours after

[dull gyro]

MK6 or 8 for the GS?

[restive cave]

idk, I've seen krieg stuff in the shop for the last couple of days

[dull gyro]

stab version seems better?

[molten prawn]

It's a slight recolor

[radiant ice]

But that was the anniversary stuff not the Thursday shop roll

[molten prawn]

For krieg stuff

[radiant ice]

Yeah

[restive cave]

oh, different krieg stuff?

[radiant ice]

No

[restive cave]

we had krieg stuff twice in a row?

[molten prawn]

It's blue not black

[radiant ice]

Original Krieg stuff was black but a while back

[restive cave]

Yeah, this is at least day 3 or 4 I've seen the krieg stuff in the shop

[radiant ice]

I meant the Krieg stuff this time round came out 8 hours or so after the patch. But was marketed as an anniversary special not the rollover

[restive cave]

oh

[radiant ice]

There is usually a shop rollover every second Thursday

[restive cave]

Oh I misread your original message, sorry

[radiant ice]

Wondering if this week got cancelled because of the event anniversary stuff

[restive cave]

parsed it wrongly 😂

[molten prawn]

It was slightly delayed though

Idk if that's normal

[marble crater]

Both are good, opinions are split

[eager token]

the mk6 heavies are glorious and beautiful anything else is heresy

[marble crater]

Using that emote on yourself is a bit

[eager token]

[radiant ice]

Uh oh cringe

[restive cave]

The mk6 feels better if you're not just spamming L and H - you need to be a bit more mindful of the moveset

[patent mango]

hes rotting you know

[restive cave]

Spamming L and H on the mk6 is worse than doing that on the mk8, but properly chaining attacks on the mk6 is better than the mk8 IMO

[timber cairn]

what build you running with the mk6?

[eager token]

i just 3x L into 1 heavy and push then repeat

[plucky flax]

Should go right side. Assails gaze/creeping flames then dd.

[restive cave]

yep, but you also need to be mindful of the extra L when you draw, slide, or sprint

[eager token]

#psyker-class message this is really close tbh

[restive cave]

H too early and now you're doing an H1 overhead chop

[eager token]

i run heavy las pistol with ghost right now because havoc shooters are cancer but might swap to recon

bc the damage feels poop

[timber cairn]

no scriers??

[eager token]

i would prob run scriers for anything not havoc

havoc without dome/wall is pain

[timber cairn]

atm im running FGS for anything but havoc xd

not played with it enough

[wise pine]

Current favourite staff for high havoc / Auric Maelstrom, siblings?

[eager token]

me neither

[plucky flax]

Trauma or burga

Oh maelstrom you can run anything. Surge is very strong at maelstrom.

But for high havoc (30+) go trauma or burgatus

[fluid aspen]

The puddles are so much

[timber cairn]

inferno meta or voidstrike. No Blaze sword cause I don't need deflector.

[glossy spire]

Decided to branch out to Psyker after remembering how fly it looks. What's the dump stat for the new greatsword? This good?

[eager token]

the worst modifiers are the puddles and hardened pus

imo

[fluid aspen]

Yeah

[plucky flax]

You want warp resis dump.

[marble crater]

Warp resistance is dump

[timber cairn]

er, warp resi is almost always dump stat

[glossy spire]

Alright, thanks.

[timber cairn]

maybe defences 2nd dump

[marble crater]

We love the warp, we don't want to resist it

[eager token]

the corruption puddle shit, if you dont have a zealot running corrupt cleanse they’re trolling

[restive cave]

I wouldn't dump defences, that affects your dodge distance

[hollow current]

😍

[eager token]

feels absolutely awful without it

[timber cairn]

this is the way

[restive cave]

that 0/60 is godroll LOL

[plucky flax]

Nice you can get maybe 30~40% warp resis?

[fluid aspen]

The puddle spreading to literally every single fodder unit that steps in it is what's so dumb about it

[hollow current]

I got one with 41% so 30 would eb nice.

[eager token]

has anyone gotten to 40 havoc yet

i’m only at 24

[wet belfry]

this thing

bugs out

[fringe shore]

what are good blessings for the force gs

[radiant frigate]

we know

😭

[hollow current]

ye
#psyker-class message

[wise pine]

Still, huh? It's crazy how long that's been broken

[restive cave]

I THOUGHT I WAS GOING CRAZY

[eager token]

wrath, shred/riposte, maybe the +20% strength with peril idk

[steel flame]

Give it to me

[ornate hamlet]

did i do good dads

[timber cairn]

anyone actually got fgs viable on 20+ havoc?

[eager token]

how was it

[hollow current]

Tedious more than difficult.

[fathom adder]

Unsure about breakpoints so dunno about Unarmored. Otherwise looks good

[plucky flax]

Yeah you can play it up to 30.

[steel flame]

Yeah? It's in the top tier psyker melee

[timber cairn]

got a build?

[ornate hamlet]

was trying out something but not working out. Whats everyone go to for it?

[fathom adder]

Could go with Unyielding instead of Unarmored as melee is better boss damage than almost anything Psyker has, other than certain guns

[restive cave]

I prefer maniac over unarmored, but that's personal preference

[eager token]

unyielding mk6 heavies on bosses

[restive cave]

Oooh, unyielding's a good one too

The mk6 heavy poke has huuuuge range

[ornate hamlet]

keep carapace?

[restive cave]

yes

[eager token]

i would

[timber cairn]

better than dueling/mk4 bs on carapace?

[eager token]

i think it chunks harder

[ornate hamlet]

how about the blessings?

[eager token]

the stab is really good

it is slower than mk4 tho

[fathom adder]

DS4 is so overtuned it almost gets left out of discussions by default

[ornate hamlet]

sorry for all the questions im not much of a builder ;/

[plucky flax]

Nah no chance.

[eager token]

and you dont need to build up uncanny

[fathom adder]

Like for any build and anyone that can get it, DS4 is an extremely powerful choice and almost isn't worth mentioning, except for the fact we often forget that new people may not know

[plucky flax]

I have a gameplay footage of havoc 24 with big sword assails bubble.

[eager token]

i am gonna go back to DS4 for havoc prob

[plucky flax]

Pretty low havoc though so most things are still viable.

[eager token]

as fun as FGS is

[upper sun]

when does it really get rough 31?

[eager token]

the mobility is nice

[fluid aspen]

21 is when it turns to Damnation

[plucky flax]

When the emperor's light modifier becomes 2.

[fathom adder]

How well does Assail even do at high Havoc? Seems like it would only ever hit one target for fuckall damage

[upper sun]

yeah its fine even at 21

[plucky flax]

But with good team it's still fine.

[eager token]

is that at 30? i am terrified

[hollow current]

It turned out even better than I hoped.

[upper sun]

i did 26 or 25 with strangers its fine

[plucky flax]

I think 30 or 31.

[marble crater]

I'm still at 16, didn't play yesterday

[plucky flax]

Assails do decent until like 30+ havoc cos then mobs just have too much mass and tankiness.

[fathom adder]

Leave it at 430 and let the Warp flow through you 😀

[plucky flax]

So you want infinite cleave weapons (trauma/burga)

[steel flame]

I'm on havoc 34 ATM https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9d334394-208a-4364-9474-5e185195fa68

[eager token]

yeah i am gonna whip out the ol trauma for 30+

[flat moat]

Is unyielding or carapace better for FGS?

[timber cairn]

thats the problem. If you take the FGS, you're kinda stumped against carapce unless you take voidblast/electro. Which in turn lowers your dps as Voidstrike/Inferno feel more like the meta atm

[fluid aspen]

Warp Splitting for the hitmass problem

[plucky flax]

Voidstrike is not the meta in havoc.

[timber cairn]

I've had the most success with void/smite build. Most damage. Most CC. Ton of specialist kills. That's Havoc 25.

[eager token]

what keystones are you running at 30+, just DD forever? i thought about doing warp charges with trauma but idk

[plucky flax]

I use warp charges for more bubble up time.

[eager token]

yeah that’s what i was thinking of doing

shame u need bubble so much

[timber cairn]

linking me an ogyrn build lol

[eager token]

i already feel like i melt if caught unawares at 24

by regular shooters

[steel flame]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9da784e0-4e3c-4ef8-b94f-3eaf23ae367f/zazys-melee-psyker

[eager token]

they need a +ranged damage resist curio perk

capped at like 15%

[restive cave]

Gunner damage resistance?

[eager token]

or 12

[restive cave]

I guess that's not the same as shooters

[eager token]

just ranged in general

yeah

[timber cairn]

no way that's a havoc 34 build.

[steel flame]

You can believe it or ya don't, makes no difference to me. With the team I have they just let me go ham in melee and it works great

[timber cairn]

looks fun

[steel flame]

It's very very fast

The DD changes are working wonders for melee

[fluid aspen]

What changes?

[steel flame]

I'll probably need to swap to my fire trauma build pretty soon though

[timber cairn]

I'm surprised you went for an unupgraded BB instead of smite/assail for some extra CC + the malefic momentum... Also ik seers is generally best, but prescience over seers for soem crit stack?

surely malefic momentum is bread and butter for the FGS for the special?

[steel flame]

It's 52.5% and more scriers uptime or it's 57.5% with less scriers uptime

And I went for the elite kill cooldown because I'm face tanking a whole lot of elites so I get that scriers back as soon as I leave it

[patent mango]

oh my god id idnt know party finder used mission terminal region

no wonder i had like 1 party

[timber cairn]

fair

[steel flame]

Only thing I'm losing with malefic Is 20% damage on my special slash

[timber cairn]

"only"

either works 😛

im just a dmg junkie

[steel flame]

It's the only warp attack I'm using

[timber cairn]

not if u take assail

[echo cape]

is this build viable or just a meme https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d652e0c-9b8f-4d94-861f-7e14ab641a6e/smiter-omega-op-auric-carry

[timber cairn]

or smite, which you'd have to do down that line

[thorn nest]

What are some good blessings for the autogun?

[timber cairn]

do you even use the brainburst?

feels like a throwaway

[steel flame]

But if I'm smiting I can't also be bullying guard captains in a corner xP. Besides we have a scriers smite psyker in the party already

[fiery stratus]

Any build that uses smite as a primary weapon is a meme

[steel flame]

It's there in case I really need to kill a sniper/bomber etc and I'm out of laspistol ammo

[timber cairn]

im gonna give it a go and let you know!

[fiery stratus]

Brainburst is also good for hitting bulwarks and whatnot in dense horde

[wispy bay]

I think Havoc is long but not that difficult if you have the map knowledge.

[steel flame]

It's not exactly easy so I can't promise results

[fluid aspen]

How do I make my party listing show havoc tier and modifiers?

[zinc phoenix]

deliver trauma unto bulwark that they may feel what you feel when you see their shield as another class

[plucky shuttle]

Anyone have the optimal loadout for FGS?

[steel flame]

I'm sure someone does but it ain't me

[eager token]

“optimal” might be something like: a couple melee nodes on right side of the tree, warp rider and malefic momentum, probably one with the warp, likely disrupt destiny

anything else is kinda run of the mill or flavor

a lot of ppl run unyielding+carapace and wrath with shred/riposte on FGS currently

someone can tell me i’m wrong

can make staff or guns work tbh

[marble crater]

Yeah no, that looks like a meme

[timber cairn]

meme

[marble crater]

The more I look at it, the worse it gets

[haughty star]

RELIC BLADE TIME

[fiery stratus]

Any build that uses smite as a primary weapon is a meme

@haughty star Damn, where your material at?

[haughty star]

i only got like 600h man i'm constantly spending that shit on masteries lmao

[fiery stratus]

see thats your problem

If you use a few weapons you like for a while, it builds in the background without you noticing.

[haughty star]

yeah i do that with somme but meh

[jovial juniper]

Dumdum Deathspitter

[haughty star]

pointless having materials without spending em

[delicate dove]

yo, anyone been getting audio bugs and in-game crashes since the latest hotfix

[fiery stratus]

yes

[haughty star]

or raking

[haughty star]

yes

on amd

[fiery stratus]

audios been all over the place, playing with a friend earlier had to restart to get even some stability

its not exclusive to the card

its the game

[haughty star]

was just posting for berevity

"to be clear"

[fiery stratus]

ic

But yeah its a problem in general, happend to me a bit lastnight

Failed havoc because i couldn't get the audio queues as last alive

[haughty star]

also idk if just me playing on speakers or not but deamonhost is significantly quieter for me now

[delicate dove]

Huh. I'm on nvidia...

[fiery stratus]

Its just a game issue

[delicate dove]

Audio has been overloading, followed by a crash or kick to lobby past few days

[haughty star]

lol weird my text is red

was

[delicate dove]

red text?

[analog agate]

He’s just seein’ red. Don’t think we have to see his face again.

[jovial scarab]

what dumpstat for inferno again?

[analog agate]

Warp res

[jovial scarab]

k

[rugged halo]

pretty sure warp res is the dump for all staffs

[fiery stratus]

Voidstrike is blast radius

[rugged halo]

why?

[fiery stratus]

because it has no blast radius so its better as the stat

its pretty much all direct impact

[gloomy hornet]

siblings is this talent still viable on gunker builds that use a bulletstorm gun

[fiery stratus]

very very tiny blast radius

[leaden thunder]

imo, dump warp res on it

while blast radius hardly matter as well

you generally run the quell on headshots blessing on it

[radiant frigate]

it ok

[fiery stratus]

but it also creates a lot of peril and a lot of people use scriers gaze

[fluid aspen]

I just finished a Havoc mission, extracted and everything, and it counted as a loss

[fiery stratus]

[leaden thunder]

shouldn't the quell on weakspot counter that (i've pretty much never used scriers until recently)

[fiery stratus]

scriers gives a ton of peril, and if you're charging staff you're doubling up on that

[fluid aspen]

I left the squad and got the popup that I was still in a mission and can't start another Havoc until that's finished

[gloomy hornet]

shouldve killed one of ur teammates'

[fiery stratus]

yeah thats intended

[jovial juniper]

Well you won't have Assail to compensate for eating ammo

[fiery stratus]

to keep people from quitting out

[fluid aspen]

But the mission was over, we were already on the Mourningstar

[patent steeple]

assail would still be better overall due to not having to waste ammo on normal shooters, but if you want to use it, go ahead. Just be mindful of the fact that it stops working at high enough peril.

[jovial juniper]

Plus every 15 seconds is eh

[fiery stratus]

Probably a bug then

unless one person was still in the post mission screen

possibly

[timber cairn]

Wondering whether the 25% on maniacs on the laspistol is the best (the FGS 1-shots muties)
I'd actually be inclined to put25% unarmoured dmg, as that covers Gunners, Snipers, Bombers, Shotgunners which are primarily the ones you're gonna be shooting at

[steel flame]

Honestly it's up to you, long as it's not flak or carapace

[split lance]

do we know what are in the havoc chests

[timber cairn]

yeah was just feeding back how it might upgrade your build

[patent steeple]

havoc chests?

[fluid aspen]

The rewards

[split lance]

the end of week rewards

[steel flame]

Is it at least working for you? I'm curious because I have a pretty aggressive playstyle

[zinc phoenix]

assail edging with bubble is fuckin mental

[patent steeple]

riiiiggghhht... sorry, I haven't gotten havoc unlocked yet (and I don't want to, because it looks too hard for me, even though I have almost 750 hours into the game...)

[zinc phoenix]

i genuinely could not care less about the stupid chests

its like offerin smaug a dollar

[split lance]

cool

but whats in it

[zinc phoenix]

money and mats

it shows you

[split lance]

gay

[zinc phoenix]

not the word i'd use but i agree with the sentiment lmao

[plucky flax]

My next havoc is carnival I am not looking forward to the finale.

[fluid aspen]

Yeah the mats are boring and the cosmetics are uninspired

[steel flame]

With sword taking care of maniacs unarmored is probably better going forward, just never bothered to change it from my gunker build

[zinc phoenix]

spooked af

what level r u up to now?

guessin 30s

[sweet veldt]

does anyone know (testers?) how much it gives?

[timber cairn]

im also pretty aggressive!

So far

Pros:

• Lots of damage
• Lots of options for all unit types

Cons:

• Meh boss damage
• Serious survivability issues. But that's due to my under-use of scriers and very low weapon stats
• No cc

[patent steeple]

how about offering smaug a currency with much more inflation (or at least, much less overall value) than a dollar?

[split lance]

inv me

hehehehehehe

[burnt maple]

What do y'all use for higher boss damage?

[zinc phoenix]

nice argentine peso

[plucky flax]

I am done for the day.

[zinc phoenix]

i keep being stuck in the low 20s because im helping people and i cant find groups for the high 20s

so im at like 22

[steel flame]

If you stick unyielding on the laspistol it will absolutely melt monstrosities from range

[zinc phoenix]

about to pass my clearance level tho so thats nice

and ive genuinely gotten a lot better

like, no damage or disablers except for when i pop myself or dodge off a ledge

which, you know, shit happens

[timber cairn]

will probably do that instead of the unarmored then

good shout

[plucky flax]

I did a 32 just now and only took 56hp damage.

[timber cairn]

would you agree this build REALLY needs a CC class with it?

[zinc phoenix]

mental 🤯

[plucky flax]

If shooter touch me for longer than 0.2s I die.

[timber cairn]

Zeal/Smyker

[sweet veldt]

idk how yall doing these my teammates are worse than regular auric mael 😭

[zinc phoenix]

what build r u running now?

[steel flame]

100%, one of my team members is a dedicated CC player

[zinc phoenix]

guessing things have evolved a ton

[plucky flax]

I was lone psyker so I ran blaze trauma.

[zinc phoenix]

legit choice, its always gold

[sweet veldt]

the modifiers are so annoying togther

[plucky flax]

With bubble of course.

[zinc phoenix]

yeah pmuch

[timber cairn]

makes sense. I do quite like it - im playing it badly atm but i can still tell the damage ceiling is higher than most/all staff builds

[zinc phoenix]

filter people for a group based on clearance level and any merit badges theyre showing

[plucky flax]

Huh? Melee assails higher damage than staff?

[zinc phoenix]

ive had very good teams throughout

[plucky flax]

I would like to see that.

[timber cairn]

no FGS/Gun

Zazy's build: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9da784e0-4e3c-4ef8-b94f-3eaf23ae367f/zazys-melee-psyker

[plucky flax]

Maybe for mael? Or for havoc?

Because of hitmass.

If you use trauma/burga you have infinite cleave.

You just get so much damage.

[timber cairn]

burga?

[plucky flax]

urgatus

[zinc phoenix]

i just dont believe in TDR in havoc, its a lie

[rugged halo]

TDR?

[leaden thunder]

toughnes damage reduction

[earnest sand]

Anyone got recommendations for bolter with fgs?

[rugged halo]

havoc honestly just seems too easy sometimes

[hollow current]

@abstract arch that's what mine looked like to start.

[zinc phoenix]

What level?

[lone ravine]

anyone got a build I can try out for FGS?

[haughty star]

this is ancient knowledge lol

we run surge and nexus now

[leaden thunder]

I am an old mf

good to know tho

[broken carbon]

back in my day…

[leaden thunder]

any particualr reason for the change? more crit from the talent tree or something?

[jovial juniper]

Probably because Peril good nowadays

Or lots of -peril gen

[split lance]

anyone need 1 more fo rsome havc

havoc

[plucky flax]

What lvl have you cleared my boi?

[zenith sentinel]

for the psyker's new greatsword, which blessings you all think its best for it?

[rugged halo]

i've done like 5 havoc missions, but i wasnt party leader so i never set the level

[plucky flax]

A lot of good options. I personally use shred and riposte for more crit chance.

[steel flame]

Wrath is almost a must, riposte is the crit talent to go for at least on 6

[rugged halo]

seems like my party leader never set it past 1

[zenith sentinel]

i'll just go with deflector and wrath

[molten prawn]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9da7a52e-f9d2-4d9e-ae36-eae714628a46/creyphs

Just going to try greatsword with max sciers uptime

with max toughness

[split lance]

25 i think

ive only ran with void

so whatever his top is

[rugged mountain]

im a brand new player and im liking the game and i picked psyker.....is it like a mage class?

[split lance]

22

[ebon smelt]

Would like some feedback. I put this together to try and make it work, i am running it with moonlight sword and voidstrike

[split lance]

i think it was

not 25

[analog agate]

23 I think it was that you would be on now

[split lance]

ah

[analog agate]

Well, void

[split lance]

ty ty

new dog pic

pretty

[analog agate]

Very

[plucky flax]

Hrm do you only melee? Because you have not much toughness regen from warp stuff.

[ebon smelt]

Yes! But i would reccomend you watch some youtube videos of psyker to see if it is what you want

[ebon smelt]

I mostly just die

I am not a big psyker player, but am trying to get into it

[plucky flax]

If you stay inside bubble you get toughness regen.

But when you're not in bubble and you're using void, you only get very little from mettle.

[analog agate]

Dude’s honest

[ebon smelt]

gotta be honest to learn

[ebon smelt]

Maybe if i switch to infernus i might get better survivability?

[split lance]

Me on my last run

lmao

had to of died

12 times

[analog agate]

You were just hungry

[split lance]

i was very huingyr

[plucky flax]

No you can keep your weapons but need to switch up your tree a bit.

[upper sun]

anyone playing?

[plucky flax]

Also you have no warp charges regen outside of elites kills.

[rugged mountain]

i have been and im a bit confused on how this game runs lol

[plucky flax]

Is that a 30 points tree? It seems weird. Xd

[rugged mountain]

i saw a lighthing magic skill i want but how do u change the powers?

[ebon smelt]

Yeah, it is, i am just bad at building :v

[split lance]

LMK if you wanna play ome games

im down

[plucky flax]

Do you use smite a lot?

I can try to adjust your tree depend on how often you use it.

[upper sun]

once you get to a high enough level you can select smite, if you go to talents you can check blitzes they are the green squares you can only path your way to one thats the power for psykers

[ebon smelt]

I like it, but i am seeing that i just kill everything before smite is even usable

And i am msotly just spamming voidstrike, dont have the time to charge the smite

so maybe bb would be a better fit, to help me handle some far away targets

[vestal cargo]

Is it worth upgrading to get defenses and cleave up or should I keep it at this level for the low peril res?

[plucky flax]

Do you have warp nexus on your void?

[rugged halo]

yes

[ebon smelt]

Warp Nexus and Surge

[plucky flax]

If you're willing to switch keystone to dd it makes it a lot easier.

Because of tru aim.

[ebon smelt]

I am willing to change everything

[plucky flax]

FOr more crit.

[ebon smelt]

I am not going to die in any hills on that build, because i am aware i lack a lot of game knowledge

[rugged mountain]

thank you

[plucky flax]

Hrm then I'd just suggest an entire new build for now.

[ebon smelt]

I am a-okay with that, i mostly just want to use the greatsword

And i like the voidstrike because big boom

[plucky flax]

2 points for you to put where you want. Use assails to keep DD stacks up or throwing a few here and there when you use your big sword.

[radiant frigate]

with the dawn of greatsword.. perhaps voidstrike can make a comeback for me

much to ponder!

greatsword voidstrike bubble...

[plucky flax]

I personally would go creeping flames but he likes bubble.

[leaden thunder]

been using the voidblast with and having fun

[plucky flax]

I assume he's not doing havoc yet anyway.

[ebon smelt]

I am!

I am level 22 on havoc right now

[plucky flax]

Oh yeah then bubble for sure.

[ebon smelt]

I was running assail, because i saw that it worked well with the greatsword for horde clear

but bubble is just too good for havoc

[plucky flax]

Tru. Things are so tanky I did 1 mil damage in 29mins with bubble lul

[fluid aspen]

Pus hardened + puddles. Do no ranged dmg or get corrupted in melee. Great mission

[ebon smelt]

Thank you very much for your help Agent!

[wispy bay]

Bubble is a little squishy in higher level

[plucky flax]

Perhaps but it's still a godsent

[wispy bay]

Double shield wall is more versatile and the ability to stun specialists help a ton.

[plucky flax]

What level did you get up to?

[wispy bay]

I did level 27 earlier with a few guys here

[plucky flax]

Hmm I have not found bubble to be less value than double walls in 30+ yet.

The toughness regen too.

And the big coverage just to block stray net or flame.

[wispy bay]

It gets destroyed quickly by gunner nest.

Even the normal rifleman can

[analog agate]

In this case your monster dmg would be what? I guess what you prefer to lut unyielding on

[thorn cedar]

bubble is for capping on the enemy, not for blocking shots

[radiant frigate]

bigsword

[plucky flax]

I have psykenetic aura and cdr aura so I spam bubble a lot.

[wispy bay]

Shield wall can stop mutant, dog and buster along with whatever bubble can do

[rich spindle]

havoc 31 is pretty insane

bubble is very key in my experience

[plucky flax]

I think 31 is when it's emperor light 2?

[rich spindle]

yeah

pox gas is brutal

[plucky flax]

Yeah pox gas sucks.

[frail kestrel]

what level does psyker unlock the greatsword

[plucky flax]

This was a 32 and it's pretty chill

[rich spindle]

i heard dot goes thru the enemy damage resist?

[plucky flax]

I am not sure I don't think it does tbh. Still takes an age to kill.

Beside they have more hp anyway.

So even with dot it still takes longer.

[thorn cedar]

if you mean the ranged damage reduction from the pus mod, dots arent ranged damage

[rich spindle]

yer

[radiant frigate]

hold on

pus-hardened is just vs ranged?

i thought it was going to be universal

[analog agate]

Nope. Ranged. And let me tell you. That includes BR.

[analog agate]

BR is hot garbo

[clear heath]

50% ranged reduction at havoc 40...

but it doesn't count dots

[earnest sand]

Just throw your sword at them at that point problem solved

[clear heath]

so purg staff priviledge once again

[analog agate]

Soulblaze and bleed

[timber cairn]

or greatsword

[upper sun]

the writer figuring out 28374 different ways of writing "green"

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[analog agate]

I haven’t looked. Is nurgle blessing a part of the later havocs?

[clear heath]

"green but looks slightly more like piss this time"

[fresh dune]

Okay i actually upgraded ek staff to max blessings and 400 rating and it doesnt feel horrible now

[analog agate]

Just wait to 500

[fresh dune]

Smite was less fun bc my ek staff felt weak but running it is great for my zealot buddy

like damn

I used to just run inferno bb shield

But smite is so good at saving us from hordes that would wipe

[radiant frigate]

a healthy verdant hue

[leaden thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/black-beard-peak-writing-black-beard-marshal-d-teach-peak-writing-barba-negra-gif-5446515270440960312

[sturdy reef]

https://tenor.com/view/absolute-cinema-absolute-cinema-meme-absolute-cinema-meme-gif-11615201256306424437

[main wyvern]

Chat I did my first havoc

[radiant frigate]

@upper sun how did you build your relic blade

[summer prairie]

did 35-40 first try with some folks I found with player finder, no voice comms

[upper sun]

flak carapace cranial and idk about second blessing trying out stuff

[main wyvern]

I now know that nobody is joining havoc mid game

[upper sun]

currently doing heat dump with overload

[plucky flax]

Pog

I used party finder ealier and they all died in the first room.

[thorn blaze]

Do you think there's an argument to be made for sustained fire on electrokinetic?

[summer prairie]

Two of them without anyone getting downed

[plucky flax]

I left that group in shame.

[clear heath]

how high did you get now agent?

[plucky flax]

I'm 33 now.

[clear heath]

wow

[plucky flax]

I find just stacking bubbles and choir is op.

[summer prairie]

We had bubble, choir, voc

[plucky flax]

You play trauma or burga?

[clear heath]

yellow toughness broken

[summer prairie]

Burga

[marble crater]

Bubble should give yellow toughness too

[fluid aspen]

Lightning Speed is surprisingly useful on the FGS

[steel flame]

Lightning speed?

[fluid aspen]

10% melee attack speed, on the right side of the tree

[steel flame]

Oh that. Still haven't burned those names into my brain yet

Anything that makes weapon go faster IS just a DPS upgrade

[plucky flax]

I do think though if you are not the host it's safer to use lfg tool since you don't demote right?

Cos lfg is sort of random and then you lose twice in a row it feels bad.

[fluid aspen]

You can pick your squad at least

True Level has never been more useful

[prime elk]

Not really surprising. Most melee weapons see a big uplift from it lol

[analog agate]

Do wish we could do account lvl

[tulip kettle]

sorry for another of these questions

has anyone noticed a change to their peril display? the mod i used to use overwrote the built in peril but now its all fucked

[fluid aspen]

I don't think I did, I use NumericUI and PerilGauge though

[plucky flax]

What's your account level?

[tulip kettle]

thats exactly what i use

[prime elk]

Did you update peril gauge?

[marble crater]

You still demote, surely?

[prime elk]

That fixed it for me

[tulip kettle]

i updated a bunch of mods

all the ones in my list i just downloaded again

[prime elk]

And turn off NumericUI peril

[fluid aspen]

Not if you lose as a client

[plucky flax]

No I think only the host. I've only been hosting so far so unsure.

[fluid aspen]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9da7bada-8c1b-4952-ba9b-329ca4d54d0c

[tulip kettle]

i turned it on and off and it made no difference

[patent mango]

hi is trauma blaze good without shriek

[quick tulip]

hosting is if you want to level your havoc up immediately (and you probably should host a few runs in a row lol)

[marble crater]

And here I thought the system couldn't be more complicated

[fluid aspen]

I wish it was like Fractals in GW2. You can play above your level and you gain 1 level if you win even as a client

[plucky flax]

Ye with bubble for havoc.

In mael just go creeping flames for damage.

[fluid aspen]

But this is just overly convoluted for no reason

[patent mango]

ok

[analog agate]

~2000

[patent mango]

i think i just gotta bubble fo havoc

[quick tulip]

I mean, you play above your level and at the next weekly reset you'll go directly to that level?

you could very well skip 20-30 levels of havoc

[fluid aspen]

But why wait a week for that

[quick tulip]

because Fatshark

[fluid aspen]

Fair

[marble crater]

[patent mango]

i like how most things can be explained in this game with "because fatshark"

[clear heath]

yeah this is basically my annoyance with havocs being weekly

[patent mango]

i think havoc ranged enemies are just way too much

but idk

[blissful solar]

they're pretty crazy but it's not that big a deal since they're supposed to be hard

[fluid aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/bubble-bubble-boy-jeremy-cohen-jerm-cohen-brooklyn-gif-17952136

[patent mango]

just gotta bubble ig

[blissful solar]

what we really need are melee enemies that are also super buffed

[fluid aspen]

The fucking puddle is bad enough

[blissful solar]

though preferably not both at the same time. but really as long as they arent blight infected it's all okay

[quick tulip]

crusher overheads suddenly 50% faster

[steel flame]

Empathic evasion go brrr

[quick tulip]

100% quieter

[fluid aspen]

MVP talent

[quick tulip]

reject boublee, embrace critical ignorance

[blissful solar]

the havoc 40 i did wasnt blight infected so it wasnt really that crazy. blight infection is insane and it seems like corruption resistance doesnt even do anything

[steel flame]

Fuck you, I rolled a 20, your power word kill phases through me and does nothing

[fluid aspen]

Yeah, killing something that then spreads onto literally every enemy, leaves a puddle twice the size of the unit, and it takes like 30 seconds for it to disappear. Stand in it for more than 0.5s and it keeps ticking Corruption. Slide through and it's like 4 ticks

[flat moat]

Are any of the staffs worth taking with the FGS?

[zinc phoenix]

well yeah havoc 1 is probably easy, even the teens are a cakewalk

[quick tulip]

considering FGS is great at crowd clear, probably not purge?

err, inferno

dumb name change

the rest have utility enough that, yeah they're worth

[strong gulch]

FGS seems general use enough to slap on any build.

[quick tulip]

^

[fluid aspen]

I'm glad we got something that is fun and useful. Been a while since we had new Force weapons

[steel flame]

Please fatshark, stop being cowards and let fgs special trigger blazing spirits based on empowerment

[quick tulip]

special doesn't trigger loads of stuff right now, so a lot of it has to be bugged AF

[fluid aspen]

I just want the heavy wind-up to not get interrupted by a single poxwalker hit

[strong gulch]

no

give SB on hit

[steel flame]

Fax

[quick tulip]

soulblaze is bad but they can't buff it because inferno staff

[leaden thunder]

that's just real and true

[steel flame]

If they drop it to 6 stacks and make it on hit, I will be satisfied

[leaden thunder]

like being 100% would it even be that good if it was that

or would it just be ok

[steel flame]

It would be amazing

There is a reason fire trauma is so good even though it also caps at 6 stacks

Because fire shriek just doubles that

Poof everything dies

Problem with on crits is that fire stacks after damage so if you one shot it doesn't trigger stuff like soulstealer, or souldrinker or the warp charge on soulfire kill

And crits on most of the force swords just kill

[leaden thunder]

true

[fluid aspen]

DOT just doesn't work when stuff can be killed so fast, especially when talents rely on the DOT dealing the killing blow

[steel flame]

So you need to pick between actually killing what you are swinging at or spreading fire which is a terrible choice to need to pick

[cyan portal]

no talent relies on DoT getting killing blow

[steel flame]

They just need to be lit

[quick tulip]

the first half of that statement stays true though

[steel flame]

When they die

[nocturne dust]

souldrinker

[fluid aspen]

This can be interpreted as both I guess

[quick tulip]

brings out the ol yucky statement of "death is best cc"

[fluid aspen]

This too

[nocturne dust]

Souldrinker relies on DoT getting killing blow (or activating at the same moment of death)

[cyan portal]

It is really easy to test, light something up, murder it with sword, see buff

[nocturne dust]

which is weird that it is that way

[steel flame]

That one works on enemy death that is on fire, souldrinker is actually fire kill inthink

That one has been tested to death

[zinc phoenix]

ive heard different answers from different people for souldrinker

[leaden thunder]

lotsa shit works differently then it says it does

[fluid aspen]

Great because both are worded the same but might be working differently Classic Fatshark

[nocturne dust]

It's actually not that easy which is why there was a bunch of confusion when souldrinker first released

[zinc phoenix]

plus the buff bar is super erratic

[quick tulip]

fatshark? putting information in-game and having it be easily understandable!? gasp

[nocturne dust]

Because souldrinker sometimes works on non-soulblaze deaths

Souldrinker is just really weird

[steel flame]

It's kinda a worse mix of soulstealer and a 5% crit node

[nocturne dust]

yep

[steel flame]

So just spend those two points to get soulstealer and the 5% crit node instead

[cyan portal]

It is working every time for me with melee kills, repeated like 10 times

[fluid aspen]

Or just get Warp Splitting instead

[round gull]

Brothers and sister we've got the final weapon

It's so good

[zinc phoenix]

the fuckin great sword

[steel flame]

God if only warp split was enough to let laspistol cleave

[fluid aspen]

[round gull]

YEEEEAAAHHHHHHHHH

[zinc phoenix]

peril 200% needed

simply become a demon

[upper sun]

anyone playing?

[nocturne dust]

Are you in the Psykhanium?

[steel flame]

At work, much pain, still an hour

[cyan portal]

yeah?

[fluid aspen]

I should be going to bed

[quick tulip]

me watching my 15 stacks of DD appear at the end of the mission knowing its been maxed the whole time

[nocturne dust]

We figured out souldrinker through in-mission testing

[fluid aspen]

But I'm watching the Jingle Jam Civ stream

[cyan portal]

did you record evidence?

[nocturne dust]

Not me but there was a video from somebody....

[steel flame]

So uh, based on last night, we aren't sure if pus hardened effects zap staff and smite because their damage didn't seem to be affected.

We might have been hallucinating tho

[nocturne dust]

@summer prairie was it you who recorded that in-mission video of souldrinker? If not, do you remember who it was that had that video?

[clear heath]

i think it does affect the staff

kinda hard to tell though

with ek staff damage being randomized and all

[summer prairie]

No and I think it works the same as in fire reborn

[steel flame]

Surge staff is weird since it deals many instances of damage

[nocturne dust]

It definitely doesn't

unless they changed it

[cyan portal]

maybe it is in your yt history?

[nocturne dust]

One sec, searching through discooooord

[nocturne dust]

not on yt

[cyan portal]

posted in here?

[fiery stratus]

Anyone wanna do havoc? Starting from 16

[gray zephyr]

is voidstrike dump stat warp res if I'm not running scriers or is blast radius always the best dump stat?

[nocturne dust]

there it is

[zinc phoenix]

civ7 soooooooon

[haughty star]

man i wish the psyker sword had the empowerment the zealot one has

[fiery stratus]

@nocturne dust you wanna do some havoc? starting from 16, havent done my own yet.

[haughty star]

that thing is fuckin gnarly

[zinc phoenix]

nah the special is amazing

[haughty star]

it's okay

[zinc phoenix]

free ranged interrupt on any special with near instant cast

and if its charged you can delete a horde

i love it

[haughty star]

yeah you get all that with assail anyway lol

so i just have assail anyway and use it less

[zinc phoenix]

special is faster

[haughty star]

not really?

[zinc phoenix]

the assail pellets take days to arrive

first they need a nap

do a little spin

[haughty star]

that'sss cope. it is a lotery but alot of the time they get there right away

[zinc phoenix]

special is faster imo

[haughty star]

only time they take long is out of the range of the specials reach

[zinc phoenix]

the special range is insane

[haughty star]

not it's effective range

[zinc phoenix]

esp for how much it can do

idk, ive nailed shit across massive distances with it

[haughty star]

it has huge fall off

[zinc phoenix]

also it goes thru walls

[nocturne dust]

I just woke up

[zinc phoenix]

so you can stop a pox in its tracks thru a wall with the special

[fiery stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/billthebear-bill-the-bear-bear-cute-butcher-gif-14283537018178746442

to the meat grinder

[mossy oyster]

I promise you assail is not getting an instant +50 kill streak as fast as a full charged special from FGS

lmfao

[strong gulch]

sleepy void

[fiery stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/shaq-shaquille-shaquille-o'neal-dj-diesel-diesel-gif-64110788162862205

[nocturne dust]

My havoc is at 22 or something if you wanna skip but I'll need like 30 minutes, lol

[fiery stratus]

hmm

could do

[haughty star]

yes but you could assail much more targets than you can kill with that special over time lol

[mossy oyster]

I don’t know how you use assail but it’s not out performing FGS in horde clear

or screenwipe

[analog agate]

I can be on again…

[mossy oyster]

Assail is also not 1 shotting ragers or maulers

like a FGS special can

lmfao

[haughty star]

we're comparing the specials and i'm not going to argue with someone who isn't a psyker main lol

[mossy oyster]

lol nice cop out cause you know there’s 0 point to arguing which has the better clear cause it’s obvious

[haughty star]

i'd rather have the empowerment

[mossy oyster]

good one

psyker mains are something else

[zinc phoenix]

i specifically told him that the special was good for staggering specials faster than assail can hit

[haughty star]

yeah and that's not even what we were talking about dipshit

[analog agate]

We special

[haughty star]

[zinc phoenix]

thats all we arguing about, i doubt anyone thinks assail has better horde clear than the max charge

[haughty star]

what a nonce

[split lance]

Nah it’s just
Him. He runs regular heresy and thinks everyone else does

[mossy oyster]

Sorry I don’t argue with people who are psyker mains they suck dick with melee

[haughty star]

just arguing to argue typical darktide bs

[zinc phoenix]

btw the "you can stagger specials thru walls" bit about the special is so clutch

[mossy oyster]

So of course they wouldn’t know how to use FGS properly

[mossy oyster]

LOL

[thorn cedar]

paradise loses so many fights in game he has to find time to lose them in Discord too

[mossy oyster]

You’re funny weren’t you dick riding a mod for 0 reason besides to get on their good side

weird npc

[thorn cedar]

you're not funny

[mossy oyster]

And you’re dog shit

[haughty star]

tren just rides my dick because i made fun of him for bragging about his muscles lol

[clear heath]

fgs being a quick special wipe through a crowd is pretty nice

[split lance]

Why you bringing up my muscles again. Kinda gay

[haughty star]

it is nice it's just not a all the time thing

[mossy oyster]

That’s between y’all

[split lance]

Also

I clowned on you way before that

[haughty star]

i like the relic empowerment

[split lance]

For at least weeks before that

[zinc phoenix]

the relic boost mode is pretty lit from a sheer power perspective

i just love the utility of the special on fgs

[haughty star]

especially with chorus cuz it's like alt ults

[zinc phoenix]

like i use it to stagger trapper so i can avoid net because its so quick on snapshots

[thorn cedar]

honestly i find im just letting it charge up to half and then tossing it out for easy MM stacks

[zinc phoenix]

yeah thats pretty nice too

i usually weave assail for those but its a nice shout

[thorn cedar]

sometimes it ramps to full so fast i dont even notice

[haughty star]

yeah i barely get a good clear moment out of it usually i throw it at half to stagger a special for a meatsuit or i get hit tryna throw it lol

[thorn cedar]

then i just look for the thickest crowd of taggables i can find and yeet that fucker

[split lance]

Best part of fsg is getting to 100% peril in 4 sec

[zinc phoenix]

the peril output is awesome

very good for fueling crack

[split lance]

Yes

[haughty star]

that is a finer point definitely

[split lance]

So nice

[lethal lagoon]

ur dumb.

[split lance]

Even just once to 45%

Then spam staff

[thorn cedar]

its kinda expensive af tho

might even dump mobility

slow active + pricey = ending Scriers when i didnt wanna

er, defences rather

[split lance]

[lethal lagoon]

[split lance]

[lethal lagoon]

[split lance]

Sorry. I have bad aim

[lethal lagoon]

@nocturne dust

[split lance]

[split lance]

[round gull]

Guys do you have any good ability synergy with the new weapon?

[split lance]

Everything

[lethal lagoon]

Yep literally everything.

[round gull]

yeah,i thought so

[lethal lagoon]

It has horde clear and is still decent agaisnt crushers and unyielding

So there's nothing it doesn't go with

[split lance]

This reminds me of when I had a dream and I got shot in the face point blank and I woke up to what felt like hot air hitting my face

[round gull]

hell yeah,it destroys them

[nocturne dust]

[lethal lagoon]

[nocturne dust]

I am staring disrespectfully.

[split lance]

[lethal lagoon]

uhhhh

mods?

[radiant ice]

I’d recommend WarpUnboundTimer personally

[lethal lagoon]

Did they fix it?

[radiant ice]

DarkCache is a lifesaver

[radiant ice]

Yes, pretty much all mods are now fixed I believe

[nocturne dust]

You should use bubble anyway

[haughty star]

if you do you run it you should try it with chorus lol it's like you always got some sort of semblance of ability going on

[nocturne dust]

Havoc gamiiiinnnnnggggg

[lethal lagoon]

[radiant ice]

I love havoc

[nocturne dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1313803542196391936/elmopsyker.gif

[radiant ice]

For some reason I enjoy overcoming stupid difficulty in games

[lethal lagoon]

I can't remember the last time I viewed shooters as a threat

[split lance]

Fr

[vestal cargo]

How do we feel about fgs + bistol?

[split lance]

Why shooters buffed to hell

[split lance]

Cracked

[radiant ice]

My favourite game ever is Sifu when they added Master Mode

[haughty star]

that one patch where shooters were all cracked lol for like 2 weeks

[lethal lagoon]

Smh, not even grandmaster.

[vestal cargo]

any build recommendation?

[split lance]

If anyone says different they’re bad

[radiant ice]

Where the enemy got AI that actually learned your favourite moves and adapted against you

[haughty star]

i believe it was shortly after the "fire was cancer" one

[radiant ice]

That shit was 10/10 and needs to be in more games

[main wyvern]

Any deimos enjoyers

[nocturne dust]

Deimos enjoyer here

[radiant ice]

I think that’s like most of us, just not as much as our new shiny toy

[split lance]

Agentchaos bistol build but woth the fsg. I can’t link it from yt rn

[radiant ice]

I really need to actually try the bistol

It’s one of 3 weapons not at Mastery 20 for Psyker

[blissful pulsar]

What blessings do yall like on the greatsword?

[split lance]

Shred riposte

[radiant ice]

Wrath is essential, second is flex but I like Riposte

[analog agate]

Yoooo. Steam down?

[blissful pulsar]

Wrath is essential? The Cleave increase with peril seems to be overkill on cleave for it

[radiant ice]

Can also take Shred and Wrath. Issue is Shred completely turns off the second you stop left clicking or miss an enemy, so is useless against armour if you want to add some heavies

[radiant ice]

I take both cause they synergise really well

[blissful pulsar]

I was thinking Riposte + Deflector or Riposte + Unstable

Or Precog + Reposte since precog lets me 1 hit mutants

I think? Honestly no clue the breakpoints

[radiant ice]

Low peril and a few maulers pop up at your back? Wrath got you.
Casting a bunch into a crowd or toggled Scriers but a Crusher has suddenly mixed itself into the horde that’s now melee range on you? Splitting

[split lance]

Low peril and maulers show up??? My staff is going to EAT

[radiant ice]

Well, more Rager than crusher

[brittle ivy]

Dam. Just had a smite only psyker in havoc. We lost of course because they ONLY smited. Even on bosses. Jesus

[radiant ice]

In certain builds getting caught off guard in low peril is very bad

Either way point being I find both Wrath and Splitting really compliment each other well by filling in the times the other is on downtime

[blissful pulsar]

Wait which greatsword are you using? I'm stuck on how you're cleaving through crushers/maulers with it when its heavy is a strikedown

I just bonk them dead with it

[split lance]

That’s all my builds lol

[radiant ice]

I’ve ran Wrath + Deflector, Wrath + Riposte and Wrath + Shred in high havoc

[split lance]

Mk6

[radiant ice]

Any time I drop Wrath it dies

At least the flow/feeling of it

[split lance]

In havoc?

[radiant ice]

Heavies from the Mk8 seem to have no issue at all with either, but then again I use both Wrath and Splitting. Would be the same for Mk6

[radiant ice]

Just in general but yeah, only really playing Havoc at the moment

Wrath is bae

It and Warp Nexus are the two blessings in the game when I put on, I significantly and immediately notice the massive difference

[blissful pulsar]

And that one axe one that gives it infinite cleave

I think that blessing is the most 'this weapon would be trash without it' level of essenital

[radiant ice]

Kinda yeah

The Greatsword is indeed great

But it really shines with Wrath

[muted grove]

anyone feel like explaining the general build archetypes psykers usually end up as? its hard to find a solid explanation

[radiant ice]

Lifts it from an A to a solid S in my opinion

[blissful pulsar]

Well I'm giving it a try. I was using Warp Slice before but thats obv not very good one

[blissful pulsar]

There's honestly to much variation. Generally its just

[radiant ice]

Sure, what style/staff/attacks you looking for?

[blissful pulsar]

"One pillar for ranged, one pillar for armor, one pillar for everything else" from what I've seen

[radiant ice]

Happy to give a general “customise this to your liking” build

[radiant ice]

Warp slice just needs a lower timer and it works as a quick cast aoe on builds that rarely use melee

Cause even at 0 buildup that thing hits a big arc and staggers well

Again, only my opinion xD

[radiant frigate]

why yes i would love to have a guaranteed crit that does no damage

[wispy bay]

The Obscurus is surprisingly decent, I was running some auric game with it.

[muted grove]

well i guess im not too sure what my options are, as far as i know theres generally assail, head pop, fire build, and palpatine builds. Right now im a melee focused assail build but kinda want to try something new but im not sure if those 4 are generally it or if theres other types of psyker builds too

[radiant ice]

Stagger + triggering your variety of crit based nonsense as a Psyker

If you rarely ever use melee, you also typically are single target focused

Can be used as a “get out of jail” move

Now I don’t think this is a great idea/playstyle, but it is one that exists

[radiant frigate]

one of the ideas ever

perhaps of all time

[radiant ice]

Psyker is very varied and a surprising number of general vibes work at endgame. Just pick something you find fun and I'm sure you can get it working on even late havoc, and easily in Auric Mael

[fiery stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/gaming-gif-21255694

@nocturne dust

[radiant ice]

Meta chasers will always exist, but there is no need to join them

[muted grove]

is the general concensus for palpatine builds that they do great cc but not really good damage? i tried one and felt like it was cheeks but then again so am i

[nocturne dust]

Starting up my Darktide now

[radiant ice]

I always find something that gels with your personal playstyle will get you way further than StreamerDork67's "meta" build

[fiery stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-insane-cat-meme-insanity-losing-grip-gif-2901353152573298214

[nocturne dust]

Steam is not working

https://tenor.com/view/uncanny-emoji-angry-hakayaki-hakayaki-angry-emoji-gif-13101565263917230073

[fiery stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/waffles-mousles-scream-prove-for-fuwu-marv-gif-23279388

[split lance]

I meta chase. Not bc I like meta. But bc I don’t want to be in the same mission for 45mins

[radiant ice]

Smite for perma-cc drops off hard in the later levels, but you can instead either look into electrostaff or use Smite in a slightly different way. Some use it as a 3-6 second burst tool for the knockdown

[timber cairn]

best mods for UI - debuff/buff icons?

[radiant ice]

Better Buff Management

With CustomUI

And HUDTweaker

[timber cairn]

cheers!

[muted grove]

are inferno builds generally more damage oriented or are they CC as well?

[radiant ice]

Inferno is real CC

[fiery stratus]

Smite isn't meant to be used as a weapon for stunlocking every individual group. Its mostly for reviving, doing events, preventing sticky situations.

[radiant ice]

Where as the spread out nature of enemies in lower levels makes it not feel as impactful, the CC for it really shines with the higher enemy density as you move up

[split lance]

You can do pretty good dmg with inferno. You’ll cc but that includes all elites dying too

[fiery stratus]

Its supposed to be a tool, not the primary function of the build.

[split lance]

Only trouble would be the actual bosses

[muted grove]

so for psyker if you want to be great at damage is it typical to do a gun build then? or maybe assail?

[fiery stratus]

Nah the staves are more damage generally

[muted grove]

or psykers should just focus on utility and CC

[radiant ice]

Oh all our builds do damage, we are the glass cannon

[split lance]

Gunker and surge staff do about the most damage

[muted grove]

oh hell yeah

[radiant ice]

It just depends where you want that damage to go really imo

[split lance]

Gunker I’m pretty sure will edge it out BUT it’ll be less consistent

[radiant ice]

Inferno staff is horde clear/aoe

[split lance]

And you have to worry about ammo

[radiant ice]

Gunker is more of a "picking" vibe, with elite/special hunting

[nocturne dust]

everything but crusher clear

[split lance]

Inferno will clear out elites too don’t be fooled

Same with trauma

Trauma easiest staff to get a mil dmg

[radiant ice]

I know I know, talking general strokes XD

I love Inferno and it does melt everything other than Crushers

But I also don't think this guy is looking for end game maxed curio builds atm XD

[muted grove]

this is exactly the kind of info i was looking for , i had no idea about any of that lol

[split lance]

On surge staff I like hordeclear melee and still barely ever have to pull it out

Surge definitely most op staff

[muted grove]

surge staff is usually with a smite build?

[radiant ice]

I will say, all 4 staves are just insane. So if you like any, you have a safe bet carrying them into higher levels

[radiant ice]

No usually Brainburst

Cause Kinetic Flayer

[split lance]

Brain burst now. Surge with kinetic flayer is obscenely strong

[radiant ice]

Sometimes Assail

[split lance]

That tree has to be UGLY

[radiant ice]

For my hybridy/swappy builds

[split lance]

But I can see the vision

[tranquil plume]

guys need help how do i get the other mk for the force greatsword ?

cant find anywhere to buy it

[zinc phoenix]

click mark

[muted grove]

oh hell yeah that sounds awesome

[zinc phoenix]

in ui

[radiant ice]

Click it and select "Marks" in your inventory

Right above Cosmetics

[split lance]

If it’s locked you need to level it up

[tranquil plume]

i can swap the marks ?

oh ok

[split lance]

Yes

[muted grove]

anyone know where updated builds can be found? the surge staff sounds dope as hell

wait is surge a staff or a blessing

[radiant ice]

I have my Havoc one on standby with Telekine Shield, or a hyper one with Scriers Gaze

[raven mountain]

Yeah, you're looking at like 10 A-tier or better builds on Psyker. Partially because of how different (yet viable) all the staves are. But even within those, people modify them to their taste.

[nocturne dust]

@analog agate You want sum havoc?

[muted grove]

hell yeah thanks a ton

[radiant ice]

This is my Scriers Gaze hyper one:
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d9f6a8c-7cad-427b-a7f9-68cdb07d0c56/i-forsee-lightning

And my Havoc Shield one:
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9da7040c-cc93-464d-ab80-71eb198a4acf/wall-lighting-havoc

For the Havoc Shield, I'd swap the Curios out to more normal Psyker ones for Standard/Auric play

[muted grove]

oh sweet!

[split lance]

Surge staff. New name electrokinetic
Blessings: Nexus and flurry

[radiant ice]

Yeah Nexus and Flurry are insane on the staff

[split lance]

Spam shriek as soon as you get 84% peril. Just press f. Repeat and boom. Done

[radiant ice]

Wall Lightning is more support team based backline, I Forsee Lightning is aggro gremlin frontline

[radiant ice]

And tren's here is a great shriek CC one

[split lance]

Shriek spam

Is

[radiant ice]

So you got options with all 3 abilities there XD

[split lance]

The best way to do dmg

[strong gulch]

@split lance carry us

[radiant ice]

I would probably drop the Aura buff for Kinetic Deflection though

[split lance]

Who’s us? But I can’t get on rn :(

[oblique basalt]

Hey guys just saw the game update the new weapons look awesome, did anything else change for psyker?

[radiant ice]

At least as a general start point for him to make his own tweaks

[strong gulch]

@nocturne dust @fiery stratus and me also no worries

[split lance]

I go games without taking my melee out

[limpid heart]

We got 15 more base toughness. 🥹 💪

[polar ridge]

what's the best blessings / perks on force great sword?

[radiant ice]

Still if nothing else, if he is a new player and gets boss rushed, holding block while his team deal with the problem may save his life several times over

[oblique basalt]

I'll take it yippee

[radiant ice]

But fair

[limpid heart]

Some YouTuber recommende Ripost and Wrath, with Unyielding and Carapace.

[plucky flax]

A lot of people like carapace unyielding to bonk big guys. Blessings are more divisive I think you should find what works for you.

[radiant ice]

I think everyone recommends Riposte and Wrath as a base

I only find Wrath to be essential though even if I also run both

Riposte can be swapped to prefs

[polar ridge]

ic

[fringe garden]

If you're running scriers and DD then Carapace/Unyielding easily make the most sense. Most everything else is 1 shot material

[limpid heart]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqI5bd2vVQU Watch the video and judge for yourself.

[radiant ice]

I have been super unsure on the perks though myself

Changing them near every game I play

[plucky flax]

Most normal big sword build.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1314261062325112965/image.png?ex=6753207f&is=6751ceff&hm=e7b3021974b5b142ec11a08990a32a5537082dce5f9e605d3eae5922671033ec&

(Don't try it at home)

[radiant ice]

Currently running Crit Chance and Flak, for the added damage of swinging through general crowds

[radiant ice]

Wanna see my weird sword build based entirely on the extra 40% movespeed? XD

[plucky flax]

We played 4 big swords in melee scab only for fun.