psyker-class

[zinc phoenix]

But there are a ton of places that combo minimal big cover with massive shooter gunner spam

[thorn cedar]

usually thats when the gun comes out and i just EE til the mags run dry

[zinc phoenix]

And if you fuck around running in the open like I’ve seen plenty do you just eat shit and die

[thorn cedar]

man psyker is silly

[patent mango]

nurgles strongest net

[thorn cedar]

-landing endless headshots on gunners with Ghost on my laspistol-
-miss one-
-fucking die-

[north hatch]

Do I actually have to farm 20% ho curios for high havoc

Mannnn I don't wanna do that shit

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah seeming like

[thorn cedar]

if youre going for high havoc you want every single advantage

[patent mango]

go 3 wounds it'd be funny

[zinc phoenix]

Toughness feeling pointless

[thorn cedar]

if you dont have that yet then i mean

[broken carbon]

pus hardened reaper eating 40 las pistol shots

it finally dies

instantly die

[north hatch]

Bruh why do I gotta wait for 2 curios every hour

[patent mango]

fatshark

[thorn cedar]

melk them

[north hatch]

Oh true

[broken carbon]

i spent 10k melk bucks on curios and didn’t get a single max stat curio

[zinc phoenix]

The pus gunners absolutely kill my brain, they eat assail shards like it is nothing

[marble crater]

Yeah, buy from melk, what do you need melk bucks for anyway now with the crafting update

[north hatch]

Gonna milk milk like he's a cow

[thorn cedar]

i spent 50k to do that on all my chars

now i have 200k again and nothing to do

[north hatch]

Gonna drink straight from the source

[patent mango]

man i know i just use smite to get cdr but i keep forgetting i have it entirely

[marble crater]

Spend another 10k

[broken carbon]

send it my way

[thorn cedar]

i love smite

too bad about smykers tho

[broken carbon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1308963873398718515/facts.gif

[patent mango]

if they make charged strike good then i can technically always use smite

[thorn cedar]

wouldnt hold my breath on that

[patent mango]

gonna nerf charged strike...

[zinc phoenix]

The zealots who haven’t adjusted to havoc and try to solo it like it’s AM break my brain

[thorn cedar]

gotta respect shooters more

[zinc phoenix]

And then people try to run after them

[patent mango]

walks 5 steps forward without team
body is now more bullet holes than body

[plucky flax]

Melee scab only up? It's big sword time.

[echo root]

Not so much anymore

[plucky flax]

I tried another game mk8 I can't do it.

[radiant ice]

It's funny I feel the other way

[echo root]

I don't like MK8 either, MK6 feels much better.

[radiant ice]

Mk8 is beloved, can't get into the Mk6

[plucky flax]

I explode at 100% when going for the push stab.

[echo root]

Me killing you with barrels was divine intervention after all.

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-40k-psyker-explode-perils-gif-10586129510772702813

[radiant ice]

I am impressed in the game we played together you didn't miss a single barrel the whole map

[patent mango]

strongest reject vs weakest barrels

[echo root]

My sword is too big to be called a sword. Too big, too thick, too heavy, and too rough, it is more like a large hunk of iron moebian steel.

[radiant ice]

Should rename your Psyker to Gasoline Sniffer

[echo root]

I do love the smell of gasoline

[plucky flax]

This is big swords gaming

[echo root]

Specifically '95

'98 doesn't smell as good for whatever reason

[acoustic isle]

The smell of cheaper

[patent mango]

force greatsword propaganda

[radiant frigate]

the bigsword crew

we chopping our way out of hell with these ones

[plucky flax]

You playing? Melee scab only big sword gaming.

[patent mango]

i'd hop on but im midgame rn

[radiant frigate]

sounds like a plan

[summer prairie]

I'll play if we have big sword only

I don't have a build though

[plucky flax]

I just run my bistol build.

[patent mango]

gotta record 4 gs gaming

it sounds funny

[radiant frigate]

the flavor text straight up says if you forget to use your body you cannot wield this

[summer prairie]

do we still use bistol

[radiant frigate]

muscle wizard real

[plucky flax]

Gazer big sword moment?

Well yeah to kill specials.

But it's melee scab only so it's 90% big sword.

[radiant ice]

Gore Mage class

Blood for the Blood God and all that

[summer prairie]

I'll try SG

[patent mango]

high crit for mettle + warp speed gs feels so nice

[radiant ice]

I love my SG speed build for GS

[proper bay]

dont skip leg day

[radiant ice]

I can more than double the speed of Knife Zealots it feels like

Mettle + Warp Speed

• Lightning Speed + Warp Splitting

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/worthikids-wizard-beer-buff-muscles-strong-gif-5264775002962851087

[radiant ice]

• Crack of Bone so SG never ends in melee

[plucky flax]

FS code?

[near wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/jaja-hahaha-run-running-running-away-gif-14097702707561656636

[radiant ice]

https://tenor.com/view/mcqueen-gif-9449693085032454841

[summer prairie]

I've momentum+crack of bone for memes

[radiant frigate]

8369781873

[nocturne dust]

mk6 is superior

[radiant ice]

shrugs

https://tenor.com/view/brilliant-i-like-this-top-gear-jeremy-clarkson-richard-hammond-gif-18951630

[nocturne dust]

Heavies for elites, lights for horde

[radiant ice]

Both are superior

I just prefer the Mk8

[nocturne dust]

interrupting light chain with heavy on diagonal from bottom right to top left

[nocturne dust]

Your preferences are noted for future barrel-related space programs.

[vestal flower]

Is Psyker's role in Darktide mainly a ranged horde clearer?

[nocturne dust]

[radiant ice]

Psyker is glass cannon

[nocturne dust]

Yes

[radiant ice]

Be it melee or range

[patent mango]

its whatever by this point

just always glass cannon

[nocturne dust]

Well

[radiant ice]

But outside of squish, fairly flex I'd say

[nocturne dust]

It's more everything but boss clearer

at range

[patent mango]

oh barotrauma update

[vestal flower]

I've always seemed to miss the "cannon" part though... when With Zealot I can be a tank cannon haha

[vestal flower]

I see I see

so with like Assail obviously you mainly clear horde from range and leavel the big bois for your zealot and Veteran etc.

[radiant ice]

Psyker at the perfect level of play has an insane damage I don't believe any can match, it also has a way more flexible tree imo

But nobody plays perfect

[nocturne dust]

Ordinarily, you would use a staff on big bois, excluding bosses

[radiant ice]

I like it for the variety, each game going

[vestal flower]

which staff would you recommend for that?

[nocturne dust]

or use a gun like a dirty gunker and kill bosses

[nocturne dust]

any of them are good.

[radiant ice]

"Hmm, fire, lightning... melee? Nah, explosions... or orbs?"

[bold cape]

with a gun you become the boss clearer

[nocturne dust]

Inferno is easiest to use

[nocturne dust]

Not really

[vestal flower]

hmmm might be that it has the highest ceiling, but that ceiling is so hard to reach since it's so squishy

[vestal flower]

flamethrower staff on big bois? really?

[vestal flower]

which one is the dirty gunker?

[nocturne dust]

Even with a gun, Psyker only has Vraks for actually impressive boss clear

[plucky flax]

1 more psyker for big sword gaming only? (Only use gun to kill spcials)

[radiant ice]

Anything other than Crushers it melts

[nocturne dust]

Yes

[vestal flower]

which one would you recommend for big boi shooting?

[bold cape]

unless things have changed since i played you can pop a combat stim and literally remove a boss with the columnus

[nocturne dust]

Inferno kills everything but crushers

[hasty valve]

Any important talents for best using the combat knife?

[nocturne dust]

That is Vraks

[bold cape]

did they change the names?

[nocturne dust]

They renamed Columnus yes

[vestal flower]

oooh I see...

[radiant ice]

I like to High Noon it with the fan the hammer revolver, with Unyielding Damage, Crit Chance, Crucian Roulette and Hand Cannon

[nocturne dust]

[radiant ice]

I've killed monstrosities in a single 5 round burst

[vestal flower]

Do you usually hold it down or just quick tap it?

[nocturne dust]

Here, have my one and only guide https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d5f5cb5-afee-4f51-9393-b8429e8c6765/the-burning-man-inferno-guide

[vestal flower]

Why did they have to rename "purgatus" staff 😭 that was such a cool name

I guess enough people couldn't not connect the dots between "purgatus" and "purge" and it being a fire staff

[nocturne dust]

🤷‍♂️ It is sad.

[bold cape]

gonna try out the force gs with sg but im not exactly sure how i want to build it or what ranged option to use
maybe ill finally use trauma now that i cant be shafted by hadron any longer

[thorn cedar]

shoulda called it fartgatus cause it stinks

[radiant ice]

I use revolver again for that

[nocturne dust]

Hold it down

[vestal flower]

I hate the fan hammer one, it shoots so slow and just feels weird to use

[radiant ice]

Quick swap speed to sniper a special and back to sword

[radiant ice]

Slow!?

Hold on

[ornate hamlet]

the "no fun allowed" psyker build

[bold cape]

never liked the revolver
aware its one of the best options but was never for me

[north hatch]

Did they ever give a reason for all the constant name changes

[vestal flower]

Is it even something like "Infernum" or is it just "inferno"?

Who the hell (no pun intended) had the bright idea to rename it

[radiant ice]

This is my Zealot, but what part of this is slow?

[nocturne dust]

no

[vestal flower]

why so many renamings... dumb

[patent mango]

me

it was funny

[north hatch]

Damn

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/itysl-i-think-you-should-leave-tim-robinson-done-kill-gif-23115674

[ornate hamlet]

did you guys try out the brand new vigilant autoguns

[north hatch]

Biiiiig ironnnnnnn

[echo root]

I prefer the Zarona, don't like the auto aim on Agripinaa

[patent mango]

they didnt accept my suggestion to rename inferno to voidburn and electro to voidshock though

[north hatch]

Brand new?

[radiant ice]

I adore the Agripinaa

[ornate hamlet]

what about the voidbowling staff

[radiant ice]

I have builds for all 3 classes that can use it, specifically to maximise it

[vestal flower]

I mean it sure seems to kill fast, but I was expecting some old McCree right click kind of speed, something to unload it real quick.

[north hatch]

I just wish agripina had pen

[radiant ice]

https://tenor.com/view/doggo-big-iron-gif-19017452

[radiant ice]

Mine has 60%

[nocturne dust]

Just a weakened boss

[upper sun]

@plucky flax r u gaming?

[vestal flower]

but idk even then it would be cool and fun for a while but eh, never was a fan of the revolvers in this game, not that they can't be good. just dont personally enjoy them

[radiant ice]

The point was he said it fired slow!

Not the boss kill XD

[vestal flower]

https://tenor.com/view/gus-gus-sus-giancarlo-esposito-gif-23328188

[nocturne dust]

I mean it does feel 'slow' because it kinda just sucks against everything else I guess?

[radiant ice]

Slander

[nocturne dust]

Only wins because you can magdump bosses

[radiant ice]

The time has come for that whole apprentice kills the master thing

[nocturne dust]

I mean it doesn't suck but it's no Zarona

[radiant ice]

Well, yeah, it's sole purpose on the build is to actually contribute against bosses on an otherwise melee build XD

Zarona is OP tbf

I use both but Zarona just feels cheap XD

And neither are my beloved Electrokinetic Staff

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout-new-vegas-joshua-graham-gif-25989158

[north hatch]

I'm just too used to the zarona having amazing punch through to deal with backline

Wait why the fuck am I using Warframe terms

Bruh it's so hard for me to use darktide names istg

[radiant ice]

Don't they have the exact same punch through?

[nocturne dust]

no

not even close

Zarona is a beam of annihilation

[radiant ice]

Huh I've never had an issue with hitting multiple enemies in a chain with either

[north hatch]

Punch through = cleave right

[nocturne dust]

Aggrippina cleaves a single walker

[north hatch]

Or was that something else

[radiant ice]

Nah I've shot a round through a horde and killed a pinged special on the other side many times

[nocturne dust]

Then you're using warp shenanigans

[north hatch]

You can test it in the psykanium

[nocturne dust]

or the cleave stat broke when nobody was looking

[radiant ice]

Ohh!

I am!

Warp Splitting XD

[nocturne dust]

yeh

[radiant ice]

lmao

[north hatch]

Oh yeah warp splitting affects non melee too I forgot

[radiant ice]

Warp Splitting is a beautiful perk

[static needle]

yes

[nocturne dust]

Anyway, Force GS should have the soulblaze blessing function with the ranged slice

[maiden hornet]

I stole your build but instead of Kinetic deflection I took essence Harvest

[nocturne dust]

so I can have melee left side

[radiant ice]

YES

Please

[nocturne dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1310894228339167334/Fire_Elmo_V5.gif

[radiant ice]

Give us fire sword

[maiden hornet]

that's way too cool, it will never happen

[nocturne dust]

Whatever works. Weird choice though.

[radiant ice]

You could combo it with the guaranteed crit on special, then completely go down left side with no extra crit chance

[north hatch]

Tbh it's kinda sad that psyker was my first class cause it has so much build diversity

The amount of shit veteran has is all in the bottom of the skill tree

[radiant ice]

Super unpopular choice, but Essence Harvest is my guilty pleasure. I love it

[north hatch]

And then when I start playing zealot there's like

One

[nocturne dust]

Guaranteed crit sucks

once per 20 seconds is stinky

[maiden hornet]

I just like a bit more toughness regen

[north hatch]

Yeah things on a timer are just ass

[nocturne dust]

even if soulblaze blessing functioned well

[nocturne dust]

Soulstealer crying rn

[north hatch]

Ok but they buff no stack damage s not and then make it so it crits on every special

And then range spam build

[nocturne dust]

and also dropping KD

[north hatch]

Would be so fun

[haughty star]

KD isn't that bad of a drop tbh

[hazy moss]

mk6 or mk8 fgs?

[nocturne dust]

Certified Baz take

[maiden hornet]

look I was at the bottom of the tree ok? hard to look up when you've looked down

[radiant ice]

I hate that abbreviation

[nocturne dust]

mk6

[north hatch]

I think either or

[radiant ice]

Mk6 is considered meta, but join us in the Mk8 darkside

[north hatch]

But mk6 is more braindead for me

[nocturne dust]

Either is good

[north hatch]

And I like braindead stuff

[nocturne dust]

mk6 is cooler

[radiant ice]

The animations of the Mk8 just were perfect to me

Felt like that dude in the ESO trailer

[hazy moss]

ok here’s the thing for me i did some testing

[acoustic isle]

Honestly it's just down to preference

[nocturne dust]

mk8 is for Illisi enjoyers, mk6 is for Deimos enjoyers

and it really is that simple

[acoustic isle]

Seems both are very general in application

[nocturne dust]

[north hatch]

Like idk mk2 dueling sword is like better very very minorly compared to the mkiv but the mkiv is super easy to use so I'd rather just use that

[hazy moss]

mk8 push attack thrust does more dmg than mk6 thrust, but mk6 has better heavy combos but idk how easy it is to do constant push attacks in combat with crushers

[haughty star]

the only truly powerful part of KD is that you can res someone in basically any melee situation

[hazy moss]

so idk which is better

[north hatch]

Yeah if you're good at combos then use the mkí

8

But mk6 heavy spam

[acoustic isle]

Luckily that push follow up also staggers crushers. And from fairly far too

[nocturne dust]

spoken like someone who doesn't understand auric/havoc shenanigans

[north hatch]

Is like so much easier

Also I mentioned this before but the mk8 for me feels like

Ever so slightly faster

But the mk6 feels nicer

[hazy moss]

dude i’m saying, like if there’s a clan of crushers after me i don’t trust myself to be calm enough to spam push heavies

[radiant ice]

KD is an insanely powerful perk and shines in higher levels, even if it's not a personal preference

[north hatch]

Same low-key

[radiant ice]

But if I have the spare point, even though it's not my flavour, I always grab it cause it's just so good

[nocturne dust]

KD is the god emperor in disguise

[haughty star]

i just don't find myself blocking that much. the only thing that kill me are things KD ain't gonna save me from lol

and i'm havoc level 31 dingus lol

with a 3 man

[nocturne dust]

much impressed very wow

I clap

[hazy moss]

theoretically speaking, wouldn’t mk6 have better heavy attack dps bc it doesn’t have to go into the block push move?

[nocturne dust]

👏

[haughty star]

[nocturne dust]

it does have better elite dps, yes

or single target dps in general

[patent mango]

what really makes mk6 jolly is l1 to stab

[hazy moss]

the fact that mk8 thrust deals more damage threw me for a loop, mk6 into bulwarks feels so good tho idk

[nocturne dust]

no

h1 is good

[patent mango]

but l1 to stab is so nice

[nocturne dust]

just spam heavies

[hazy moss]

l1 just bounces off carapace tho

[patent mango]

mid horde then i can do the funny elite murder button

[nocturne dust]

mk8 thrust doesn't do that much more damage

[patent mango]

obviously against crushers its just heavy spam though

[nocturne dust]

It doesn't meet any BPs mk6 can't

[hazy moss]

at base for me mk6 thrust was doing 1175 and mk8 thrust was doing 1383 roughly

[nocturne dust]

especially when mk6 gets that sweet sweet overhead h1

[radiant ice]

We getting new store today after the early Krieg set?

Need daddy FatShark to abuse my wallet some more

[patent mango]

force gs skin then fatshark gets rich

[nocturne dust]

Hopefully fgs skins

[patent mango]

its gonna be like 2100 for the skin

that'd be so goofy

[radiant ice]

3k for a greatsword skin

Server still crashes when everyone tries to buy it at once

[patent mango]

recuperate some of the force gs dev costs

[nocturne dust]

Don't worry

It will be 'Baby's First Recolor' type of skin

[radiant ice]

...when have we had one that's not?

[patent mango]

ok but

imagine force gs moonlight skin

fromsoft crossover

[radiant ice]

Question for the smarts here

Is corruption % based or raw value?

[haughty star]

wat do

[radiant ice]

Like a dog chewing your leg, is it for example 2% of max hp per second, or a raw 2 corruption damage per second?

[nocturne dust]

some of us (me) don't like and haven't played FromSoftware games

[nocturne dust]

raw

More health gooder

[radiant ice]

Ahh good to know, thank you

So HP curios really do dominate havoc

[nocturne dust]

Eh, idk

[tall mango]

Ehhh

[nocturne dust]

Toughness curios still seem alright. In fact they seem almost more valuable?

[tall mango]

Toughness is still good

[radiant ice]

I mean when you get close to Havoc 40 you can’t really get above 80-90 toughness anyway as the reduction gets stronger, or so I’ve been told

[steel flame]

I still dump into toughness as a renewable resource I can Regen

[radiant ice]

Even with 3 toughness curios

[tall mango]

While you still lose a lot of toughness as the difficulty gets higher, having toughness is always better then health

[patent mango]

my 172 toughness goes to like 110 in havoc....

[radiant ice]

It gets worse

[nocturne dust]

yes

Imagine health

[patent mango]

buh....

[nocturne dust]

[patent mango]

it was like 110 in 28

i think

[steel flame]

#dontgethit

[radiant ice]

I think it’s barely just past 80 for people with 3 toughness curios in 35-40

[patent mango]

its so over

[nocturne dust]

#dontlose

[radiant ice]

#JustDodgeFivehead

[patent mango]

ig they really wanted us to use overtoughness abilities? idk

[nocturne dust]

Bubble

[radiant ice]

Yeah gold toughness is op for it

[nocturne dust]

[steel flame]

I got insta killed by a silent empowered poxburster through a door at full health and toughness last night ...that was fun

[radiant ice]

Get yourself a book zealot pet

[patent mango]

book zealot + cleanse aura

[nocturne dust]

Get yourself a bible thumper that knows how to clean wounds

[radiant ice]

Hey!

Seems my meme build becomes meta

[nocturne dust]

Wat

center zealot?

Center zealot was always my favorite

[radiant ice]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d9c2d3c-2214-41d8-a66c-00d1d1e0918f/bible-thumper?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[fathom adder]

Doorbursters are never gonna be fixed are they

[radiant ice]

I mean it crosses to meme with +11 Stamina

[nocturne dust]

Man, Havoc has rocketed the stuff I liked to meta

Bubble and cleanse aura

[thorn cedar]

cant fix door bursters, the answer is to stop hacking at doors where door bursters exist

[ornate hamlet]

so

[dry ivy]

honestly all things considered

[steel flame]

Meta is just another form of delusion insecure people hide behind to maintain their perceived surpriority

[ornate hamlet]

I have discovered that I am actually much happier liberally using the greatsword special instead of waiting for charges

[dry ivy]

talents wise, this is really close to what you would want to run for zealot book build

[radiant ice]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-family-guy-shallow-pedantic-talk-i-agree-as-well-gif-17584394

[dry ivy]

weapons and curios are disgusting though

lol

[haughty star]

into ruin another melee maelstrom for some poor zealot i go

[acoustic isle]

It does still have hitstun without stacks so that is useful in many ways id say

[ornate hamlet]

It's very small, but still helpful every now and then

[radiant ice]

Oh yeah I threw it together cause you can recharge book every 5-10 seconds as a bit of stupid fun. The knife isn't for damage, purely to recharge book

[ornate hamlet]

I tried using it rushing gunners and I got reminded real quick that I wasn't using the funny meta build

[acoustic isle]

You will hear me yapp about the emps and you will like it

[radiant ice]

And I just threw on my favourite gun cause why not. It was meant for messing around in non-Mael Auric with some friends XD

[steel flame]

I'm gonna steal that now

[radiant ice]

But it somehow isn't too bad for Havoc

[nocturne dust]

But have you considered

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1313803542196391936/elmopsyker.gif

[acoustic isle]

Probably because a zealot cleansing corruption when the goop is in play is your best friend

[radiant ice]

Fucking lmao

[acoustic isle]

The goop! The dreaded goop!

Someone do the hooks from spongebob but say the goop instead

[radiant ice]

Can you do one with blue lightning instead of fire?

[nocturne dust]

uuuuuuhhhhh

[radiant ice]

I want that as my banner

[nocturne dust]

I can try but

it would have to be tomorrow

[radiant ice]

Sure no rush XD

[dry ivy]

understandable

[radiant ice]

The fucking veil is sending me

[dry ivy]

this should be a bit more practical though if you're really relying on crit cdr

[nocturne dust]

also I didn't do the veil

[bold cape]

anyone else having this weird issue where you cant switch weapon marks? im clicking it, but as soon as i close out of the menu it goes right back
i have the necessary mastery, and ive tried reloading game with no mods but issue still persists

[nocturne dust]

another kind soul did

[steel flame]

I would too if rj250 icon wasn't permanent

[dry ivy]

otherwise go for ij

[patent mango]

goop

[nocturne dust]

soooo I would need that cutout and they never responded when I asked for it

I guess I could try cutting it out myself but I suck at photoshop

[radiant ice]

Oh yeah I only Psyker in higher difficulties

My Zealot exists, like my Ogryn, purely for lower difficulty fun

[subtle geode]

the impossible stats

[dry ivy]

understandable

i return to making soyker shitpost

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/goop-goop-room-meme-memes-funny-gif-13696826613205590475

[dry ivy]

i will return shortly

[acoustic isle]

I think that modifier is probably one of the harder ones to deal with

Cuz it's just modified beast of nurgle puke and trails

[steel flame]

My builds for psyker ONLY work for higher difficulties xP fire trauma hurts at lower difs

[acoustic isle]

But it corrupts so fucking fast

And spreads everywhere

[patent mango]

lower diff just hurts in general

cant feed my force gs...

[radiant ice]

Yeah but I have friends who struggle on Malice

[haughty star]

everyone's different

[radiant ice]

Not everyone is mlg l33t gam3r unfortunately

[fathom adder]

When there are 30 different effects that feed on Special/Elite kills and it spawns about 2 of them per minute

[patent mango]

it keeps telling me to get more souls but theres no enemies

[acoustic isle]

Yeah i get my brother and his friend to do one or two missions with me a week

[fathom adder]

No destinies to disrupt, feels badman

[acoustic isle]

Then they're tired and need a break lmao

[marble crater]

I didn't have that problem yet, maybe caused by the hotfix?

[acoustic isle]

Friends and family get motion sick watching me play darktide

[patent mango]

wait until it changes wep

if u quit inv too early it doesnt change

[thorn cedar]

"this game looks sick! is it in VR?"
"are you fucking insane"

[steel flame]

My sword always thirsts for more blood sacrifices, and I must appease her. Anyone want to donate some blood?

[acoustic isle]

When you want to experience warp perils irl

[radiant ice]

I wish it was

[patent mango]

my sword telling me to kill everyone

[fathom adder]

Speaking of DD, anyone else see a bug where it doesn't stack but just refreshes duration, and falls off in 4 seconds even with the 10 seocnd talent? Is it just a visual glitch in the buff tracking?

[thorn cedar]

youd do nothing but vomit

constantly

[patent mango]

lore accurate?

[radiant ice]

Set up a microphone so it explodes you regardless of peril whenever you vomit

[steel flame]

THE VOICES THE VOICES

[acoustic isle]

Man i wish this beer would stop telling me to drive

[fiery stratus]

been a visual glitch on the stacks as far as i know

pretty sure they're still there

[acoustic isle]

Same with that weirdo ghost telling me to sell my soul

[kind ivy]

That shit is hilarious 😂

[steel flame]

I tested it, it's just visually

[teal copper]

Warp res or quell speed on inferno staff?

[fiery stratus]

res

[radiant ice]

DD builds stack so many buffs and the bar will only display 9 at a time. Issue is if you drop to 4 the tenth stays invisible until it ends. DD never ends, only refreshes

[thorn cedar]

If you recently damaged a DD marked enemy but somebody else scores the kill, the game will give you partial credit and refresh a stack but not give you any

[steel flame]

always dump warp rez

[fiery stratus]

almost

[patent mango]

i do hope they make force gs whisper things to you at max charge

[fiery stratus]

voidstrike is blast radius

[bold cape]

waited 2 minutes after hitting equip and still nothing unfortunately

[fathom adder]

That reminds me, did the Blightreaper story in VT2 go anywhere

[patent mango]

its over.............

idk then...

[teal copper]

I already have -76% peril gen due to my perks, plus 30% more quell speed

[bold cape]

ggs back to my other build ig

[teal copper]

Which is why i ask

[earnest sand]

Imagine if darktide was in VR 🫠 "sir why are you buying all the Dramamine we have available?"

[marble crater]

Warp resistance is dump stat in 95% of cases

[steel flame]

I'm still looking for a sub 20% warp res fgs

I'll find it one day and I'll be UNSTOPPABLE

(head explodes)

[fathom adder]

Just started bistoling every marked dreg chaff to see if it would stack but it didn't. Sounds like it's just a buff display bug, stuck around into another game but went back to normal after relaunch

[teal copper]

Im using an inferno build, and because of that i have -76% peril gen so i can sit there for a while, not to mention venting shriek, which is mainly why i need some guidance on which would be more worth. (One of my talents also increase quell speed by 30%)

[fathom adder]

Imagine the whiplash from having to do the VR headset equivalent of dragging your mouse for cleavemaxxing

[steel flame]

Imagine playing trauma psyker in vr

[marble crater]

Quell speed is more worth to have, warp resistance doesn't scale as well on staves and you want higher peril gain to reach high peril sooner for more damage and more damage reduction

[teal copper]

Also another question- Empyric shock or Souldrinker?

[bold cape]

okay for some reason the sword i already invested all my resources into wont change mark but i bought one off brunt and that changes

w h y

[steel flame]

Is that the m1 damage stacks?

[teal copper]

Indeed

Soukdrinker is toughness off of soulblaze kills

[analog agate]

Those are very different nodes, haha

[teal copper]

So its a matter of tankiness or damage

[steel flame]

Souldrinker is....... middling. I want to love it but it's just not all that good for how many points you need to reach it

[marble crater]

Aren't both nodes not that great?

[teal copper]

But psyker is already sorta squishy

[nocturne dust]

so, how are the relic blades anyhow?

[marble crater]

Awesome

[steel flame]

Shock is amazing on m1 staves it's just a shame ES doesn't work on inferno m1

[analog agate]

ER is greatish. I think it won’t be great at high havoc though.

[marble crater]

Activate it and you turn into a blender

[nocturne dust]

Really? I heard previously that they suck

[steel flame]

This is the m1 damage not empiric resolve

[teal copper]

Where tf you getting your information? Reddit?

[nocturne dust]

Just chatting in Discord

[marble crater]

I love it, maybe a few people don't like it though

[steel flame]

Relic blades are right at the top of my melee list. Discord is just drunk on dueling saber

[teal copper]

Nah the relics are way better than their respective cousins

[nocturne dust]

I need that copypasta about being unable to escape but with dueling sword

[ornate hamlet]

Do you guys think this is enough toughness regen?

[patent mango]

i thought this was that symmetric meme build for a sec

[steel flame]

What's the build for?

[whole oxide]

IMO people are over-rating FGS because it's fun, the dodge distance is abysmal. It's good, but I wouldn't pick it if I want to tryhard

[narrow bluff]

shoutout to this guy, this is the best looking psyker i met

[ornate hamlet]

I'm thinking of something for the greatsword that screams "magic knight"

[patent mango]

i havent had problems with fgs dodge

[teal copper]

Proof please

[ornate hamlet]

The goal is to dive into random shit with the shield and abuse the sword's pitiful warp resist

[nocturne dust]

This one

[steel flame]

I'll make a recording when I get home. Get dubuff tracker mod, you can see it doesn't apply in psykanium on inferno m1 and you don't get the damage boost

[teal copper]

Me on console.

[ornate hamlet]

Though maybe I could get psykinetic aura to do the funny with the shield more often, since I'll be fairly mobile

[analog agate]

Ohhh. Oooohhhhh

[teal copper]

But if thats the case i might prioritize souldrinker or some other perk

Havoc requires the toughness...

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/weakness-disgusts-me-madara-uchiha-madara-naruto-weakness-disgust-me-gif-17219305

[rotund tiger]

is new sword poopoo or sigma?

[teal copper]

You say weakness yet i have master of the golden storm

[nocturne dust]

I think the purple toughness node on warp siphon might be better than souldrinker

[nocturne dust]

So do I.

Go get True Survivor

[nocturne dust]

good

[teal copper]

I ain even know what that is

[nocturne dust]

Clear Havoc 35+ with no downs

[nocturne dust]

whole team btw, not just you

[teal copper]

I haven't done any havocs btw

Im preparing

[delicate dove]

A challenge requiring other players to be good, yuck

[teal copper]

Auric storm survivor and master of the golden storm was already annoying enough

And i wasnt the one going down :>

[nocturne dust]

lol

I got both of those by accident

Not bragging, I was carried by really good luck

[radiant ice]

Master of Golden Storm?

Not seen that

[delicate dove]

Master of Golden Showers

[radiant ice]

Only if Hadron bestows the blessing

[nocturne dust]

it gives a badge and not a title iirc

[teal copper]

Cant wait for all the playstation freshies to ruin all my havoc and auric maelstrom runs

[radiant ice]

Ohh! Yeah no downs in Auric Mael, got that before I got A.S.S

[delicate dove]

Better get the true level mod! Lol

[hazy moss]

do u guys know if theres a way to hide the scoreboard in the postgame screen and only show it when i want?

[teal copper]

Im on console...

[radiant ice]

I'm a bad person cause I don't let people under 100 into my Havoc games

[nocturne dust]

You are a bad person

[delicate dove]

Nah, you're a person with braincells

[nocturne dust]

Just carry everyone

[radiant ice]

I didn't care until 25

[teal copper]

Ik, whats worse is that i see level 30's claiming to be good then i see they run rat zealot

[radiant ice]

Havoc 25 onwards, I definitely care

Like I only returned to this game 2 weeks ago

Made a new character

[steel flame]

No worries, I'll send you a recording when I get home as proof but yeah inferno staff is the only m1 that doesn't trigger empyric shock

[radiant ice]

And I'm 120

[nocturne dust]

[radiant ice]

No excuse XD

[nocturne dust]

Uuuuhhhhh

That's not normal

Go touch grass

[analog agate]

120 after two weeks?

Touch dat grass

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-touch-grass-alphabet-soup-meme-gif-25868068

[analog agate]

Lol

[radiant ice]

I've been ill!

[teal copper]

Honestly i love ogryn but at heart im a zealot main, and at peak performance i clutch like at least twice every game if i must

[radiant ice]

But yeah, I really would love to if I didn't live in a fucking tundra XD

On a mountain

(I really wanna move country soon)

[nocturne dust]

Dang, but mountains are the best

[radiant ice]

Nearest town is 18 miles of almost no road

And even then, it's a tiny town

[teal copper]

I don't rat zealot. Im either a relic anchor or a crit charger

[nocturne dust]

Oofies

[delicate dove]

ok Ted kaczynski

[radiant ice]

I have a letter for you, ignore the powder

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-attack-rat-attack-have-at-thee-gif-11648161592664583090

[gloomy hornet]

Siblings can i get hit with a good scriers build that i can use a staff on

[radiant ice]

Is there a way to check the date of character creation?

[steel flame]

Oop

My link expired

Oh well

[nocturne dust]

Only staff that wants scrier's is voidstrike, one sec

[delicate dove]

Kinda depends what staff

[teal copper]

What i see before i watch the rat zealot get thrown off the map by a mutie because he forgets that he can dodge:

[nocturne dust]

Here

Unhinged Voidstrike

[radiant ice]

The unhinged build!

I love this one

[nocturne dust]

(Do not take this into Havoc)

[delicate dove]

Voidstroke

[gloomy hornet]

i see

[radiant ice]

Do it

It's Havoc only

[nocturne dust]

It works on Auric Mael tho

[marble crater]

Check dates of getting achievements or penances maybe?

[teal copper]

Defensive builds only in havoc

[radiant ice]

Almost all I already had, except new ones

[dry ivy]

tiny showcase thingy for the BFGS, because honestly, you don't need much more explaining for a weapon than this. you can call it the blaze force greatsword if you like, but we all know in our hearts that "BFGS" just means big fucking greatsword.

[radiant ice]

As I am a returning player after a year away

[teal copper]

Any offensive build in havoc and you will die

[analog agate]

Unless you play with a premade

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, good enough premade and shriek is back on the menu

[marble crater]

Then I got nothing

[dry ivy]

also yeah this

havoc is not about killing enemies like in aurics

it's about surviving them lmfao

[radiant ice]

I am pretty sure it was like Nov.27 or Nov.28 I made the character

[analog agate]

I don’t think I would be brave enough or skilled enough to not take bubble in a pub havoc

[nocturne dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1313803542196391936/elmopsyker.gif

BUBBLE META RISES

[analog agate]

🙌

[narrow herald]

Deez nutts

[analog agate]

Who ever thought I’d be championing bubble…

[nocturne dust]

ARE WHAT BUBBLES ARE MADE OUT OF

[teal copper]

Me denying the meta and just sitting in a corner with shieldgryn hoping to god literally any special doesnt spawn:

[ornate hamlet]

oh yeah, then come sit under these two bubbles I have on my staff

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gato-serio-gato-meme-gato-engraçado-cat-funny-gif-15219126009338517158

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/clint-eastwood-bubbles-gif-6254052548201493847

[upper sun]

Cole

how do you build relic?

[ornate hamlet]

who the fuck is cole

[nocturne dust]

No idea

[analog agate]

Wrong cole

[teal copper]

https://tenor.com/view/coletrain-gif-5142972397628145510

[analog agate]

Lol

[upper sun]

seriously

lmao

where is coal

FUCK

cole

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/jerma985-jerma-jerma-slay-christmas-sparkle-on-gif-27261428

[radiant ice]

I liked Tai 😦

[plucky flax]

Most normal psyker build.

[narrow herald]

WOOOO

[ornate hamlet]

bro doesn't take warp unbound

[nocturne dust]

where bubble

[summer prairie]

it was melee only

[teal copper]

Tai did an oopsie with the gnasher, we dont talk about that

[radiant frigate]

long gaze gaming

[plucky flax]

No I'm not that good.

[summer prairie]

melee beamer

[nocturne dust]

Haven't you heard the good word

bubble is god

bubble will save you

[prime elk]

the things people do to take psykentic aura lol

[patent mango]

bubble wand for psyker

[radiant frigate]

i went boom one time because i was so used to havinh warp unbound (i forgor i took it off)

[upper sun]

relic is so much easier to use than fgs

[nocturne dust]

voidstrike

[patent mango]

i went boom one time because i was so used to warp unbound (it just didnt work lmao)

[plucky flax]

I went boom because sudden 6 reapers behind me.

[teal copper]

How do we feel about a relic zealot with a relic blade and stuns doing havoc?

[radiant frigate]

i went boom one time despite warp unbound (i was 4/5 ASS and died because of it)

[patent mango]

its over...

[radiant frigate]

i thought it was fixed at that point

[patent mango]

needs more relic

[radiant frigate]

it was joever

[patent mango]

maybe theres a relic trinket?

[nocturne dust]

fgs just works on any build tho

[radiant frigate]

force bigsword force bestsword

[nocturne dust]

Is relic easier than that?

[plucky flax]

Maybe charged strike with big sword is the strat.

[upper sun]

yes

[nocturne dust]

charged strike doesn't work on ranged slice

[gaunt seal]

Got to 33 with that exact setup

[nocturne dust]

I tried

[prime elk]

i def had a better time with fgs than relic blade

[radiant ice]

You wtf

[nocturne dust]

😔

[plucky flax]

[teal copper]

Tbf all you need to do with the relic blade is press the power button and everything disintegrates

[radiant ice]

Why did my fgs lose it's erection

[steel flame]

This is my most normal psyker build. Blaze trauma go brrrrrr

[radiant ice]

Why is the bar this small

[upper sun]

i have been playing ogryn for weeks nothing but ogryn then i tried both for the first time @nocturne dust

[nocturne dust]

wat about the heat mechanic

[upper sun]

did a lot better with relic

[nocturne dust]

[patent mango]

full support team

2 bubble 1 shout 1 relic

or 1 taunt 1 bubble 1 shout 1 relic

[teal copper]

Its a very defensive build which is why i ask, however........... i do have a rashad axe build that prioritizes crit spam in order to spam the relic

[nocturne dust]

I'd like to see a 4 ogryn havoc 40 with no shields

[ornate hamlet]

admittedly the relic blade is a lot closer to what I wanted from the force greatsword

[summer prairie]

big sword only havoc 40

[nocturne dust]

I'll have to mess with relic blade at some point

but I just like playing Psyker

[patent mango]

i keep forgetting to test other weps in actual gameplay

i've just been using fgs

[gaunt seal]

We did 4 million damage that game right around 1 mil per player, it has a book but I wouldn’t consider it defensive still letting you jump into 50 enemies at once and swing away

[nocturne dust]

Lmao, it's actually been a problem where I take FGS on a staff build and forget to use staff

[teal copper]

4 psykers, 4 bubbles, 4 inferno staves, 4 brainbursts, 4 force greatswords, all prioritizing soulblazing everything

[summer prairie]

that would be inferno staff only

[teal copper]

Not necessarily

[nocturne dust]

I should make some horrible mutant meleeker build for FGS that has bubble

[teal copper]

FGS has access to shred and blazing spirit blessings

[patent mango]

blazing spirit is so guh though

[teal copper]

So you'd be applying soulblaze no matter what

[radiant frigate]

"you have to be at least this close to hurt me"
"you idiot, now you're in fgs range, die"

[wise mural]

I have been using FGS with bubble and assail, been really liking it

[steel flame]

Use fire trauma, come over to the dark side

[teal copper]

Maybe so, but you'd slurping on the chug jug of toughness 99% of the time

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/watchmen-gif-8794746

[steel flame]

Well, fire voidblast 🤮

[patent mango]

ermm mementum? idk if its good tbh

[steel flame]

Disgusting name change

[nocturne dust]

void🅱️last

[sinful peak]

what's the combo for fgs

[teal copper]

Depends on mk

[patent mango]

the combo for what

[sinful peak]

horde

[wise mural]

it also depends if you want more special targeting or hoard clearing

[patent mango]

depends on mk yea

[sinful peak]

8

[patent mango]

light light light heavy i think?

[wise mural]

usually the normal combo for hoard clear is

^

that

[teal copper]

Both have a unique horde clear, but i prefer mkVI due to the stab being busted against crusher

[wise mural]

L,L,L ,H

[radiant frigate]

look siblings i'm on TV

[sinful peak]

there is a game in your hud

[patent mango]

idek what the + signs above peril are for

[wise mural]

coherancy?

[sinful peak]

coherency

[patent mango]

ohh

[plucky flax]

Yes.

[teal copper]

You people and your mods. Us console players have developed true toughness through suffering and trials

[patent mango]

kill tracker is dopamine i need it

only thing that'd be better would be a full on style counter mod ultrakill style

[wise mural]

I've played with mods for so long when I have to play without them , it feels so strange

[clear heath]

did you get any further in havoc agent?

[teal copper]

On console we fight as one

No kill counter, all we know is together, ape strong

[plucky flax]

No I haven't played.

Been memeing with big swords.

@summer prairie

[summer prairie]

I was wondering if someone shot at it or if it was a beam

[plucky flax]

Must be the wind.

[teal copper]

Time to scare randoms by cutting down crushers and hordes with the PGS like its uprising

[plucky flax]

It's not havoc viable but if I'm playing maelstrom or auric stuff now it's just big sword.

[mossy oyster]

nah scriers FGS is perfectly viable until 21+ where you have to actually worry about gunners

[patent steeple]

btw, should I rename all my characters to be just my username, or should I stick with my joke/meme names...?

[upper sun]

man i need to go down a threat level to practice it

[thorn cedar]

big sword is just fucken fun

[upper sun]

its a bit more unwieldy than other force swords

[plucky flax]

I'm talking about 30+ havoc with emperor light 2.

Can play big sword up to that.

[mossy oyster]

if you do scriers FGS at 30+

you gotta be the best psyker ever

lmfao

[plucky flax]

No bubble the team will cry.

[mossy oyster]

the team?

[plucky flax]

(So will I)

[mossy oyster]

you wont exist

[thorn cedar]

let em cry

[mossy oyster]

lmfao

you wont exist long enough to see them cry

[summer prairie]

the team brings 3 bubbles just for your big sword

[mossy oyster]

with those toughness reductions and gunners

[dry ivy]

did you see the shit video i did

lol

gfs nutters

[mossy oyster]

with the 500 ragers yea

[dry ivy]

peak weapon

[clear heath]

it is so incredibly satisfying

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/922136978865156168/1314098608467083335/force_cleave_killfeed.mp4?ex=67528933&is=675137b3&hm=bca683162c5ec40f359f65f6f88bffac2c1a1fdfb69a01b6a3e76a2063d6f850&

[sharp sandal]

Wassup
Struggling with the blessing for my FGS, what are your thoughts ?

[sharp sandal]

sexy

[thorn cedar]

smh only 15 dd stacks

[patent mango]

any except murderous warp slice and blazing spirit

[thorn cedar]

that warp slice blessing is so sad

[haughty star]

okay so after using the mk8 for a really long time and switching to the mk6...

[summer prairie]

how much more damage does a crit beam do anyway

[thorn cedar]

relic blade got way cooler blessings, good or not

[haughty star]

the mk6 kicks the fuck out of the mk8 lol

[sharp sandal]

i kinda fancy precog
and running unstable power

Wondering if 1 tap mutant is possible without the both of them ?

[plucky flax]

https://tenor.com/view/bloodborne-ludwig-my-true-mentor-my-guiding-moonlight-moonlight-gif-20321022

My mentor.

[haughty star]

it already is without both of those lol

[sharp sandal]

u sure ?

[haughty star]

yes lol

[sharp sandal]

need +25 maniac right

[plucky flax]

What is good in mael? I am just using rampage and cranium

[prime elk]

i think mk8 is better after using both

[thorn cedar]

i have no idea, I just know that it has cooler blessing ideas lmao

[haughty star]

the mk8 just doesn't have the oomph for the mix in ragers and maulers and shit

[thorn cedar]

like i wish one blessing let your warp slice charge off of all kills, even if your sword isnt equipped

[plucky flax]

Don't need wrath since I'm not playing relic big sword in havoc.

[thorn cedar]

that'd be dope

even if it was only partial

[haughty star]

wrath just feels good imo

on both the new 2h types

[plucky flax]

This is tru and real build
#psyker-class message

[haughty star]

relic needs it less tho

[clear heath]

I've been running my fgs with riposte unstable
Kinda just testing if unstable + warp splitting will be enough to not need wrath as i get higher havoc

[sharp sandal]

and in terms of perks and dump stat ?

[plucky flax]

Imo you should go dd for more damage then put on carapace and unyielding to combat big guys.

[mossy oyster]

I go flak/cara warp res dump

[zinc phoenix]

Man the duality of my play is absurd. I hard clutch twice in refinery delta and go thru map without without downs then at the end mission thing get blown off map to death, netted to death and downed by a backshot 😂

[mossy oyster]

I dont think it should be imo considering FGS has Finesse stat built in

having a finesse stat automatically makes you thrive off DD alot

[plucky flax]

Yes. Run dd wiht big sword.

[zinc phoenix]

Luckily rest of team was on the ball so I’m official havoc 22 😂

[plucky flax]

What don't you think?

[hasty valve]

Building a new flame build for havoc. What to change? Using an Inferno staff (flak/maniac, blaze/nexus) & combat blade (cara/unyielding, uncanny/flesh)

[plucky flax]

I am confused.

[upper sun]

im not based run it

but the soulblaze talent on the right is kinda mid

[plucky flax]

I said one should run dd with big sword? #psyker-class message

[upper sun]

its really not worth it imo

[mossy oyster]

im saying it shouldnt be "IMO" it should be just

the norm

[clear heath]

I'm not sure if building around empowered BB will be worth it in higher havocs

[plucky flax]

Oh.

[mossy oyster]

cause finesse weps + DD

[hasty valve]

it's just to have some kind of range. inferno's gonna be the star of the show

[plucky flax]

Yes but I don't force people to play certain build only suggestions. Hence should, imo, could. Nice words.

[zinc phoenix]

Agree, it’s awesome

The survivability boost from the mobility is damn worth it

[clear heath]

yeah but i mean the keystone and kinetic resonance might not be used often enough to matter

[analog agate]

Most builds are fine for havoc until mid 20s I’d say

[hasty valve]

So basically no notes form ppl here? Apart from maybe skipping souldrinker?

[clear heath]

Also, might wanna run bubble unless you know you're in a party that already has it
Even then, might wanna bubble anyways

[hasty valve]

Would you skip em for a better DD instead?

[radiant frigate]

would recommend warp siphon with shriek inferno

[hasty valve]

I havent had much issues with ranged enemies so far, pretty used to stay close to cover. It's taken me up to 25 with no real issues at least

[radiant frigate]

more fire more gooder

[hasty valve]

hm ok, warp siphon is prob the keystone ive used the least

[zinc phoenix]

Lower, a lot of stuff just gets merked

[hasty valve]

not really sure how it's working 😄

[zinc phoenix]

Bubble is huge

[clear heath]

it's looking like a shooter might just instakill people at high havoc

[zinc phoenix]

I love assail too

Be sure to duck

[zinc phoenix]

Two do at like 20

[prime elk]

we need shooter resist curio perk

[zinc phoenix]

Ducking behind cover is free survivability when dueling a shooter mob

[hasty valve]

with all the voc and the zealot ability forget what its called im still a bit torn on if bubble is that needed. will obviously have to see if i get up to 30s

[hasty valve]

isnt that gunner resitance?

[prime elk]

that's only gunners and reapers

[clear heath]

shooters aren't gunners

[prime elk]

different purpose, VOC and chorus restore toughness and create space

[hasty valve]

shooters are the elite, gunners the chip dmg mobs?

[prime elk]

but not going to help much if you're getting shredded by shooters/gunners

[prime elk]

reverse

shooters are the small guys

[hasty valve]

and kinda acts like a shield no?

[prime elk]

it'll get deleted very quickly without shield or smoke in bad situations

smoke unironically is a lifesaver now lol

[clear heath]

you can probably get away with no bubble if there's like 2 chorus zealots

but that's being really reliant on them to time well

[hasty valve]

the golden toughness you mean? when i play auric mael my bubbles tend to die very quickly

[prime elk]

community: smokes are bad pls buff
fatshart: monkey paw curls

[clear heath]

bubbles last like 6 seconds minimum

like they can't die before that point

[hasty valve]

didnt know

ive heard the added enemy defence in high havoc doesnt have resistance to burn damage tho, so still think shriek is the play

guess ill just have to try it and see how far i get

[feral knoll]

If I hypothetically wanted to use the Greatsword and play the game like a Zealot (Battle Psyker with SG) which gun would work well

[lean mural]

wait, do shields have a damage limit now? i thought that was just from specials colliding with the wall

[prime elk]

laspistol or revolver

or bistol

[lean mural]

i'm using bolt pistol and it fucks, revolver is always great

[summer prairie]

when the shield takes damage it can't take damage again for 0.33s

[feral knoll]

I never liked the bolt pistol but this could warrant another try. Or Laspistol because shooting faster means more quelling

[summer prairie]

20*0.33=6.6s

[lean mural]

but does it break on receiving a set amount of damage? i thought it was limited by time

[summer prairie]

25 seconds if nothing shoots at it

[wise mural]

so the bubble can sustain 6 seconds of heavy fire?

[summer prairie]

and yes

[lean mural]

wow TIL

of course the chonky carcharodont hasn't seen fit to tell us how much damage either shield can take, yes?

[summer prairie]

6.6s is the very worst scenario

[clear heath]

oh good to know

[zinc phoenix]

AM is very different experience

[clear heath]

All i remembered was dumping 50 reapers in psykanium and noticing the bubble lasted around 6-7 seconds

[zinc phoenix]

Like AM is spitting out volume of baddies, havoc is amping up their power level while weakening the player

Bubble in AM is gonna get merked as soon as it legally can but it actually lasts a long period of time vs the all around shooters that are generally the biggest threat

[lean mural]

this only deepens my resolve to take wall shield

because it still blocks some damage but it also blocks potentially run-ruining disablers

[zinc phoenix]

You can deal with it without bubble by having an organized high skill team team with a book gremlin but if you’re here asking questions you’re probably not in one of those groups 😂 I am definitely not

[wise mural]

depends on if you want frontline or more midline, frontline can be double barrel or a revolver, midline could be even voidstrike or recon

[zinc phoenix]

Disablers are way less frequent in havoc than am and way easier to deal with b/c less shit is happening

[clear heath]

The toughness regen from bubble is also nice

[zinc phoenix]

Shooters dropping a full auto burst that merks you from behind is way more common

And bubble is 360 while wall is directional so bubble is way easier to panic drop

[lean mural]

this is why preventing bullshit with the wall shield makes me feel like a galaxy brain MLG every time

[zinc phoenix]

If you get high enough you get back all the mutie swarms and whatnot of AM but mid 20s for sure I am not seeing it

And again getting into the 30s is a real feat

[clear heath]

yeah this 100%
if a shooter hits me, it's like 1 fucker that I didn't notice off to the side
And now in havoc that 1 guy will just nuke me

[zinc phoenix]

You need to be damn good to get that high and you possibly need a regular group

[lean mural]

quite likely yeah

[zinc phoenix]

Exactly. I’ve stopped playing this like AM and started playing it like squad

So keyholing, checking angles before going thru door, giving ground, ducking, all the defensive play that uses terrain

[clear heath]

by the time we reach havoc 40, AM is gonna feel like a breeze

It's already feeling that way now and i've only been in 29

[zinc phoenix]

My team this morning started aping that shit after we lost the first time and we won the second 😂

[wise mural]

once you really start to use the environment, is fun to use brain

[zinc phoenix]

28 was fuckin horrifying

[clear heath]

reaching 40 is gonna make me feel like soloing mael

[zinc phoenix]

My vet with maxed out DR getting merked by shooters was a big eye opener

I was like “yeah it’s big dick time I’m unkillable” nope

Emphatic evasion is love, empathic evasion is life

I am literally counting crits to see if I can stay in melee 😂

[clear heath]

1 shooter hits me with half their volley and all my toughness is gone and some of my hp
am scared of what happens when there's 2 shooters

I will evaporate

[patent steeple]

its literally life, because without it you are dead in havoc lmao

[zinc phoenix]

I’m dumping everything toughness related and going to full hp and corruption resist I think

Toughness is so reduced it’s basically worthless

[clear heath]

hp is also reduced

[zinc phoenix]

Reeeeee

[clear heath]

pain

base toughness, so it does affect curio gains

[summer prairie]

it only reduces the base toughness/health, you still get the full benefit from curios and nodes

it does not affect curio gains

[zinc phoenix]

Ok no the hp reduce is way less painful

[clear heath]

does it not?

[summer prairie]

it first calculates what you get from curios

then reduces

base

[patent steeple]

so what you are saying is that the zealot corruption-removal aura is actually good in havoc?

[zinc phoenix]

Yes is meta pick

Book one too

[hardy delta]

reduced vent of pc heat, damn

[zinc phoenix]

Havoc is comically different from AM

Honestly love it, it’s way more my speed

[potent echo]

huh reduced vent speed

[zinc phoenix]

Actually lemme rephrase on corruption stuff: it depends heavily on the modifiers

[potent echo]

no wonder it felt so funky

[zinc phoenix]

If you have goop and pox gas you’re done if you don’t have corruption removal

Like gg, you may as well quit

[potent echo]

goop is so stupid

it means you cant play defensive anymore

[zinc phoenix]

I love it, forces melee to be totally different

[potent echo]

just gotta run around like headless chicken

[zinc phoenix]

And completely changes positioning

[potent echo]

the guy in front better hold the line or its over

[zinc phoenix]

Trauma helps a ton with goop

[potent echo]

true

[zinc phoenix]

Shriek even more if you have a bubble buddy

Reach weapons also giga good vs goop

[potent echo]

knife haha hoho

[opal pebble]

Would it be fine to take 2 toughness curios and a stamina curio and just leave my health to dry? I feel like my lack of speed has gotten me in some avoidable hot water.

[sharp sandal]

I really dont see how
Without maniac and blessing, i don't do the 4k to kill a mutant

[zinc phoenix]

I can’t speak to goop with knife but I suspect that feels like ass 😂

[zinc phoenix]

What feels right for your play >>>> what other people say

[opal pebble]

True

[sharp sandal]

is there something i'm missing ?

[potent echo]

DD

also malefic

also warp rider etc

[zinc phoenix]

Also you know you’re playing good when the other guys are spamming you with stims 😂

“Eat more combat stim nowwwww”

[sharp sandal]

DD ?
Malefic ?
Warp rider i got sure

oh, disrupt destiny right

[clear heath]

Nope, base means what the curios multiply off of.
I just double checked. Psykers now have base 75 toughness, Agent's tree gives +30, and havoc 27 has toughness reduction 4, which is -40. Then the curio multiplier of 22% that they have is at the end.
You can see the math here

[zinc phoenix]

Stop stop you’re giving me brain damage

[summer prairie]

I trusted Combine00

[clear heath]

If you were right and it was at the end, it would be 88, but that isn't the case

[clear heath]

But "base" is pretty standard terminology for what curios multiply off of

[zinc phoenix]

All I know is I see way more HP than toughness so I think stacking HP curio is da wae

[clear heath]

well okay they're wrong about something then

[wise mural]

in most cases, buffing toughness and regen speed is the best option

[summer prairie]

what's the math for hp

[clear heath]

It doesn't really make sense to call something base if things that multiply off base don't affect it

[zinc phoenix]

For havoc or AM?

Bc for am I agree

But when I see like 60 toughness in havoc I’m really wondering

[wise mural]

AM ofc

[zinc phoenix]

Ok 🤷‍♀️ don’t care about that mode anymore

[wise mural]

I have 104 toughness

nearly 200hp

[patent mango]

im just waiting to leech havoc 40 off someone

[zinc phoenix]

Hell no 😂

[patent mango]

lmao

[haughty star]

bruh the mk6 is so much better than mk 8 its insane lol