psyker-class

[cloud night]

https://tenor.com/view/boku-no-hero-blue-fire-gif-27554503

Luv my blue fire

S'how it feels

[nocturne dust]

for stack rate maxing, yes

[summer prairie]

if it takes more than a few seconds to get over the next treshold it's probably never worth waiting

but that leaves out some things such as enemies that never enter your purg range

[nocturne dust]

This also assumes it's not an enemy that would benefit from going over the cap limit

[ornate hamlet]

what's the difference between smite left click and right click?

[nocturne dust]

left click is stun

right click is stun that if you let go (and not hold until canceled out of it), knocks them over

it also spreads faster iirc

[ornate hamlet]

are you supposed to hold left click after charging right click?

[nocturne dust]

yeh

[ornate hamlet]

does one take more peril than the other?

or generate

[nocturne dust]

no

[ornate hamlet]

Is it a bad idea to bring two force weapons?

[nocturne dust]

I mean rmb takes some peril while charging, but functionally no

[ornate hamlet]

like the staff and a force sword

[nocturne dust]

no

[ornate hamlet]

they all require peril right?

[nocturne dust]

Staff + Deimos/Illisi is common

[nocturne dust]

not really

Staves do

but Deimos never wants to use its charge

and Illisi does, but you can also just not, and even if you need to it's not really conflicting with a staff in any way

Peril doesn't last that long and manual quelling is a thing

[left mirage]

have they changed it so special activations skip the first h1 yet

deimos H1 fuckin blows

[nocturne dust]

No, and even if they did there's still no reason to use the special

[left mirage]

sucks

[summer prairie]

both special heavies do same damage

[left mirage]

easier to aim h2

for me

[strong gulch]

@fiery stratus OK! I think I did it. This was the meme build.
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d9e5829-597c-440b-9f52-48451863d61f/no-keystone-fire-sword-its-bad-but-play-it-anyways

[plucky flax]

Deimos special is cool and swag
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1299759716519641098/deimos_swag.mp4?ex=674d2c50&is=674bdad0&hm=c1e31d4d2c06a3b01f6540e7a1acbb95d2404c7ddc5326d4ec38dec1fee8e881&

[summer prairie]

if i'm not at max stacks of uncanny I usually use special l1 on a crusher to quickly get them up

[frail harness]

I thought they fixed the bug where stats change on empowering 😢

[plucky flax]

I just like to use special on muties cos I can't hit their small heads xd

[nocturne dust]

then hit em twice

will still be faster

[summer prairie]

not if they are doing a drive-by

[nocturne dust]

You can hit em twice in a drive-by pretty often

[cloud night]

Tru

[mental grail]

Force Greatsword moveset

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/star-trek-data-mocking-sarcastic-sarcastic-laugh-gif-15346572

[fiery stratus]

Meme indeed lmao jesus

[strong gulch]

[fiery stratus]

[cloud night]

Noice

[compact cargo]

It won't be this good

[cloud night]

The insta kill potential will prolly be indeed fabricated

[pine tundra]

Anyone have any good Auroric Inferno staff builds?

[cloud night]

There's this'un I was recommended
Its pretty good

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d5f5cb5-afee-4f51-9393-b8429e8c6765/the-burning-man-inferno-guide

[strong gulch]

#psyker-class message

[plucky flax]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qpRhCliss0

[pine tundra]

Thank you~!

[spice flame]

Hello Siblings

[mental grail]

Hi

[haughty star]

https://tenor.com/view/therapy-alcohol-archer-gif-10593300

[wind spruce]

I haven't played staffker in like 2 months and I completely forgot how to do it

[plucky flax]

@nocturne dust This is a rough video without a lot of other factors that would happen in a normal game like starting off the fight at a higher peril/bigger spread of enemies and also I took off KF here. The timing is not perfect but you can see it's faster to get to 15/16 stacks even pressing F at as low peril as 30%~
https://youtu.be/hra8lH2QmuM

[mental grail]

real

[plucky flax]

If you want to hold burga to 84% go ahead but if we're talking pure efficiency in ttk and dps, you should not wait on anything other than monsters.

[nocturne dust]

I mean, it's obviously faster to soulblaze with F than not with F, but that isn't the comparison trying to be made Since the game tends to have endless streams of enemies, the question is at one point is it good to release the F for maximum DPS. Is the 'waste' of losing out on stacks beaten by the earlier cast and start to the next shriek?

[plucky flax]

You kill anything less than a monster at 15 stacks super fast so it's more efficient to get a head start. Also shriek has much longer reach so even at 4 stacks when they get into burga range that's a good head start

[summer prairie]

it's probably more efficient not to even shout at the same direction if there are enough targets elsewhere

granted not usually the case

[plucky flax]

Yeah if enemies come from 2 directions

Shout 1 way flame the other and spin around

[nocturne dust]

Right, but that first point of logic serves for limited-target scenarios where you are trying to specifically kill XYZ. The headstart isn't necessarily helpful because you can also wait for the first targets to die and then cast on newer, fresher ones and receive 6 stacks immediately. It's a very difficult question to be fair, we don't have repeatable systems to measure such things

[nocturne dust]

I mean, yeah

[plucky flax]

I don't understand why it's not helpful if enemies keep streaming toward your torrent of flame anyway.

But you do as you please my fren

[nocturne dust]

but you would obviously at least want to reach chaff BP, which to be fair is lower on Inferno

[nocturne dust]

It's not unhelpful, the question is comparison and opportunity cost

[potent echo]

need update now

[plucky flax]

[nocturne dust]

But I would have no real way to test this and I think games are too variable to give real data on it

[verbal thistle]

wait

its real?

[nocturne dust]

no

photoshopped

[potent echo]

fake

[plucky flax]

I can tell you there's a 2k levels psyker agreeing with me about using creeping flames early with burga. So a somewhat experienced guy seem to agree.

[potent echo]

no update in Ba Sing Se

[plucky flax]

He's noob tho I'm much better psyker

[verbal thistle]

true

[nocturne dust]

But I don't want to just believe in authority figures, I want data and numbers 😭

Too much of a nerd for my own good

[plucky flax]

Goat psyker a random person told me so

Must be real

[verbal thistle]

should go pro

[plucky flax]

I think tanner is zealot main?

[verbal thistle]

idk

[spice flame]

Ye

[plucky flax]

Rat player

[potent echo]

this is the real way to play

[spice flame]

I'm good, proof of it, 100% real, pro pilled

[plucky flax]

I bow to superior knowledge

[spice flame]

Why is it so muddy

Not that I care really, I don't like the outfit but still

[patent jacinth]

The shoulders are so big on all of those

I hate them so much

[nocturne dust]

I'm going to get an excel sheet or something and record way too many matches of me using Inferno and destroy my mind for science

[spice flame]

At first I wanted my psyker to be bulgy in armor and stuff

[patent jacinth]

Garbage woman psyker forever

And the dumb rogue trader hat

[spice flame]

But Now I prefer more.. simple

[wind spruce]

Are people running mettle or warp expenditure with blaze trauma since the mettle nerf

[spice flame]

I do cause I have to grab the node after anyway

[wind spruce]

Which one

[spice flame]

Oh, trauma you meant

eeeerh

[potent echo]

Probably expenditure

[nocturne dust]

I mean, if you want to be jiggy with it, warp expenditure

[potent echo]

It's tax

[nocturne dust]

but I dun wanna bother sooooo I still use mettle

[potent echo]

PT is quite easy to maintain with nexus

[nocturne dust]

They should swap mettle and PT

[spice flame]

at the end of the day you should control the battefild anyway

[nocturne dust]

[potent echo]

You only need toughness when fighting shooters behind cover

[nocturne dust]

I don't control the battlefield, I run around screaming and blocking a bunch while waving a stick in the air and somehow everything dies

[potent echo]

Which you can just creep and call it a day

[wind spruce]

Might aswell try expenditure

[split lance]

i agree

but i suck

[haughty star]

wow scriers void is uhhh

interesting lol

i did scriers surge and that was kinda cool but it's ALOT of points to get back across the tree for WS

[spice flame]

Ah yeah, I wanted to try

Well, no time like the present

[haughty star]

it's different fer sure

some recommend going over into the left for ER but i don't recommend that cuz it takes so much of your other useability out of the build

[spice flame]

Yeah no

I don't use ER with my regular void build anyway

[haughty star]

this is what i'm running for it at the moment. didn't feel like grabbing EE cuz i honestly just don't see getting much value out of EE without a auto gun of some sort

[untold niche]

IM BEK

but i kinda want to play warframe now

:v

[pulsar hazel]

that new psyker armor looks so nice

[untold niche]

@upper sun @plucky flax @wind spruce @lethal lagoon @potent echo
I don't remember the rest of the names but im pretty sure theres more regulars
How have you guys been doing?

my exams finally over

[lethal lagoon]

I'm unfortunately awake

[untold niche]

oi wwat you mean unfortunately :v

[lethal lagoon]

EST woes

[split lance]

go to sleep

you beautiful angle

[nocturne dust]

other regulars? Nonsense

[lethal lagoon]

[nocturne dust]

only those 5 are real, the rest of us are warp illusions

[split lance]

which is angel

or angle

[lethal lagoon]

Both work, because I'm obviously an acute angle

[wind spruce]

Yeah good bro, congrats on the exams being over

[split lance]

yea

[wind spruce]

I wish you were asleep too

[lethal lagoon]

So you can take pictures?

[wind spruce]

Of you not talking

(Because it'll be full)

[split lance]

ur pc isnt event the same room as you

as ur bed i mean

go to sleep

or else

[lethal lagoon]

[untold niche]

wat is est

[split lance]

dont make me remind you

[untold niche]

only 1 month break, sad

[wind spruce]

I heard you and @split lance are moving to apac south so we can havoc together effectively

[lethal lagoon]

I aint moving to prison island

[nocturne dust]

Lord knows you ocean people need the pop 🙏

[untold niche]

ASIA _PACIFIC?

LEGITR?

ATLAS R U SERIOUS

[lethal lagoon]

Obviously no.

[untold niche]

haish

false hope

@lethal lagoon @wind spruce do u guys play warframe

[lethal lagoon]

I never will

[wind spruce]

A prison of half the world's top 10 most liveable cities

[lethal lagoon]

Ins't it crazy expensive in AUS?

And your currency isn't the greatest.

[wind spruce]

Nahhh not that expensive

It's no Scandinavia or LA

[nocturne dust]

To be fair, Scandinavia has good reason to be expensive.

[lethal lagoon]

U.S cost of living isn't a fair comparision cause you can live pretty much everywhere, AUS has like no liveable space lmao.

[untold niche]

tax is insanely high tho

[split lance]

where

[untold niche]

wat game is that

[untold niche]

he say aus

[split lance]

tax is high over there?

[lethal lagoon]

Tax is basically high everywhere that isn't the U.S and civilized lmao.

[split lance]

lol

[nocturne dust]

Just because you can doesn't mean you should........ Las Vegas

[untold niche]

40% income tax

[nocturne dust]

Anyway hey guys, were you aware

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/721520171365171284/1311019478313861191/caption.gif

[lethal lagoon]

No, I was unware.

Very unaware.

Clearly unaware even.

[nocturne dust]

Well now you are opaquely aware

[lethal lagoon]

[wind spruce]

You can only live in one spot at a time buddy

[lethal lagoon]

Imagine not having a quantom form in the year 2024, lmao.

[wind spruce]

[blissful solar]

to be fair you basically do exist in some indeterminate location in your brain. it might even be multiple places in a sense

who am I and where is it which I am

[lethal lagoon]

There's also 0 evidence "you" exist more for a single moment. For all we know the electron storm that is "you" is reborn every moment.

At the very least, the "you" that goes to bed and wakes up, is it really still "you" in the morning

[nocturne dust]

I mean, I think I am me, therefore I am me, because me am think.

[lethal lagoon]

Continuity of consciousness is but a function of our ego with no basis in reality.

Nein.

[nocturne dust]

[lethal lagoon]

It's I think therefore I am(in this moment)

Because you thought, only, in this moment.

[nocturne dust]

But I think I am me of the past as well.

[lethal lagoon]

But you are thinking in this moment

[nocturne dust]

So I am. Because I believe it so.

[lethal lagoon]

The past you is nothing but memories.

[blissful solar]

continuity of consciousness is perhaps an illusion to some extent but I mean...there's a continuity in how your brain is structured and beyond that memories allow for a continuity that your brain itself can appreciate

[nocturne dust]

Sure.

[lethal lagoon]

[blissful solar]

neurons are built up of what experiences came before. it's possible that that is largely what you are anyway (experiences and their impact on your brain. I guess)

[nocturne dust]

I don't see how that disagrees with anything I said.

[lethal lagoon]

Maybe you don't see, but I'll try again with tommorow's version of Void that is a different person with the same memories.

[nocturne dust]

Different in the sense of change, sure.

But tomorrow Void will believe they are carrying the same identity as today Void.

[lethal lagoon]

[nocturne dust]

Because they think they are, they are.

[plucky flax]

I'm in sea next week

[nocturne dust]

Report back on ping

[untold niche]

lets play tgt then, but im very bad at the game rn tho

[plucky flax]

I think there are sea dt server?

[untold niche]

yes there is

[plucky flax]

Otherwise I can play aussie server I guess.

I dunno depend on how fats hotel/air bnb wifis are

Might be scuffed and I get 200 ping anyway

[blissful solar]

it'll probably be ultra scuffed

[nocturne dust]

UnsanctionedInAnotherLandPsyker

[plucky flax]

And I'm pretty sure steam is banned in vietnam so I'd have to use vpn. I do always use it anyway

But might have to connect to another country's server

[wind spruce]

What's your home server @untold niche

[untold niche]

me me not saying :x

[wind spruce]

I'm just after a continent lmao

[untold niche]

ah SEA

[wind spruce]

I'll check what the pings like to there after this game

[untold niche]

if yo uare in eu, 300+
i think us is 150-250

[wind spruce]

I'm aus, so apac south server

[untold niche]

oh aus should be 100

[wind spruce]

Relatively acceptable

[plucky flax]

That's really good. Eu server I get 80 ping lol

And use I get 150~160

[ivory path]

Me on the 3rd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-43l_paCtw

[marble crater]

Doch.

[plucky flax]

https://tenor.com/view/elden-ring-magic-sword-power-up-cell-big-sword-gif-25130362

[untold niche]

did u just style on someone lol

[plucky flax]

Just random gifs bro

[untold niche]

ah i tot dats u

i k now some people who keep their clips as gifs

[plucky flax]

Nah I don't play eldenring/ds3 pvp

[ivory path]

I should put together a build for the sword, never run melee focused psyker

[plucky flax]

Only chill single player gaming

I still haven't played elden ring dlc

[upper sun]

good

exams still tho

[untold niche]

eh good luck dude

[untold niche]

dats rite

[ivory path]

Is this a decent node? Rarely see it taken.

[plucky flax]

Play grim dawn really food arpg game

[plucky flax]

It's good

[untold niche]

tried it before, don't really like
i don't enjoy arpg that much, become boring very fast
but on that t opic path of exile 2 coming out

[plucky flax]

And it's in the path to warp unbound anyway

[ivory path]

Nope its an off branch

[plucky flax]

Ye I'm playing poe2

Wasd movement so it'd be more like action game too

[untold niche]

thats nice, i see poe super grindy tho

[wind spruce]

Nah it's kind of average, especially since one with the warp is so much stronger

[mossy oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-coward-gif-10336863

[plucky flax]

Aren't there lots of cheaters?

[mossy oyster]

ds3 pvp sucks anyway, ds2 is the best and elden ring is pretty ok

[plucky flax]

Speed hack or infinite mana

[mossy oyster]

in all of my time playing souls games

I may have invaded

a singular hacker

and I think it was in ds2

but heres the funny thing, gravity >>> cheaters

even if you are invulnerable you cant get rid of the game's kill fields for cliffs/height (in any of them)

[potent echo]

just play a real fighting game

[nocturne dust]

I don't play Elden Ring pvp too

(I don't play Elden Ring)

[nocturne dust]

It's mediocre to bad depending on how long you can stay in Scrier's, as it isn't active during the lingering effect

Psyker doesn't really stack TDR anyway

[summer prairie]

seems to me it's essentially always worse than just taking a +15 toughness node

[ivory path]

Even for a melee build?

[nocturne dust]

Pretty close to it

[nocturne dust]

Meleeker has durability issues and you cannot solve them.

[summer prairie]

if you have no toughness nodes, a single node is +16% toughness, if you already have one it's 14.3% , two it's +12.5%

and that's always active

[plucky flax]

Aye my bad I don't take that node. I only take these 2 in my gazer builds

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, if you want durability I would recommend a toughness node or One with the Warp. Those are just more consistent and better able to keep you alive in a lot of cases. Sadly, Scrier's side nodes are too low value to be worthwhile on most builds unless you have a specific style angle you're pushing.

[ivory path]

was just brainstorming something to use with the great sword

[nocturne dust]

I mean a full meleeker could make Scrier's movement speed node worthwhile

but at the same time, you'd be harming the other aspects of your kit via opportunity cost normally

[plucky flax]

Just run your regular builds. The only thing you need is the 10% attack speed and assails anyway.

Big sword and bistol.

[summer prairie]

sadly only if it has good carapace damage

and preferably boss

[plucky flax]

It might (not)

[nocturne dust]

I'm ready for Force GS to replace DS as the OP psyker-specific weapon that helps Psyker compete in melee, and the weapon that everyone says would be busted on anyone else only for Fatshark to later let the weapon be given to everyone else

[plucky flax]

Maybe 1 of the variant is more single target for some carapace damage.

[marble crater]

Illisi and Deimos greatswords

[nocturne dust]

Although my expectation is that Force GS will attempt to be Psyker's eviscerator which will kind of suck because Psyker just doesn't have the kit for it because no rending and no big boss beatdown.

I hope I'm wrong tho.

[nocturne dust]

The Illussy returns to the throne

[marble crater]

2 more days

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/day-2-nnn-nnn-day-2-gif-14254953865786113790

[midnight jolt]

The Claymos 😂

[ornate abyss]

Why is blast radius dump and not warp res.?

on voidstrike

[nocturne dust]

Blast radius affects only the end explosion of Voidstrike, which is worthless

It also doesn't scale that much

Warp res is a terrible stat, but somehow blast radius is worse

[ornate abyss]

nice haha

I was doing mastery with EK staff but decided to buy weapons and sacrifice instead of play with it since it is terrible compared to other staffs

[nocturne dust]

EK is the strongest staff

granted it is also super finicky, needs a specific build to shine, and scales the hardest of the staves so without max power it can seem... dumb.

But trust me, you should take another look at it on auric once you have one fully kitted out and the right build.

(the build being left side shriekspam)

dis da build (some nodes optional like kinetic flayer/BB, you could take smite and warp battery)

[ornate abyss]

this is rmb spam and press F all the time?

[nocturne dust]

Press F at 85%+ peril

but yes

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/dawn-gif-23933434

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/day-2-nnn-nnn-day-2-gif-14254953865786113790

[ornate abyss]

Ah I have that build but with smite instead of BB ( I never use smite tho )and then I have warp battery

[nocturne dust]

You got flak/unyielding and nexus/flurry on the staff?

[ornate abyss]

yup

I use Illisi with it

[nocturne dust]

Then you should be good.

[ornate abyss]

Well to be fair I wasn't really thinking with the build, just spamming

[nocturne dust]

dunno how you could call it terrible compared to the other staves

[ornate abyss]

I went down 5 more times than I do with the other staves

Felt a lot more squishy

[nocturne dust]

The goal is to eat elites/specials with the staff because it procs psykinetics for more shriek and perilous combustion for more non-shriek soulblaze

[ornate abyss]

And I pressed F alomst all the time, even under 85% peril

[nocturne dust]

It stuns whatever you target tho

and a +1

[ornate abyss]

Hard to target stuff in hordes/clumps of elites

[nocturne dust]

Mmmm, you kinda want to hit that breakpoint for max soulblaze.

[ornate abyss]

I felt like I couldn't really aim, unlike with voidstrike and blastboi

[nocturne dust]

Elites/specials are tall. Aim slightly up.

Other than that, it's just practice. It's definitely not as safe as Trauma or Inferno.

Should be safer than Voidstrike tho.

[ornate abyss]

I didn't find a lot of success in melee though

[nocturne dust]

Well, yeah

[ornate abyss]

When I do force swords I usually go deimos

[nocturne dust]

Illisi kinda lags without a meleeker build

[plucky flax]

Maybe you just don't know how to approach the playstyle.

[nocturne dust]

I would take Deimos, even for horde clear. Slap slaughterer and uncanny on it.

[plucky flax]

Spam slide dodge.

[nocturne dust]

Illisi won't function great without DD and Scrier's to let it eat hordes. It needs the damage buffs on the right side.

[plucky flax]

If it's trash mobs it's fine

[nocturne dust]

I mean, yes, but it starts to struggle against even bruisers without any of the buffs that help it be freaky

[ornate abyss]

what's the combo against hordes with deimos?

[nocturne dust]

spam lights

[ornate abyss]

on elites I usually do light and then heavy

[nocturne dust]

The double poke is good as an opener

I shift to spamming heavies after tho

[plucky flax]

Get slaughterer and weave in special light and you kill bruisers ez

[nocturne dust]

You can block cancel to spam the pokes but it doesn't really outperform spamming heavies due to time

[nocturne dust]

Have I ever mentioned how I HATE CHARGE SPECIALS FOR HORDE CLEAR

The charge also takes time

🤷‍♂️ Just use a chainsword or Deimos.

imo

[plucky flax]

Special light is fast

Special heavy is slow

[nocturne dust]

Not faster than chainsword

[plucky flax]

Chainsword doesn't have deflector and deimos is not as good horde clear

[nocturne dust]

You run deflector?

[plucky flax]

Yeah I do

[blissful solar]

deimos is so good if you animation cancel its L1 its like a god weapon

[nocturne dust]

Wack

[plucky flax]

I'm not good like you

[nocturne dust]

Also Deimos isn't that bad at horde clear with slaughterer.

It's quite good actually.

[plucky flax]

Still worse than illisi with slaughterer

[nocturne dust]

Only if you are using the charge, and even then the charge takes time

[plucky flax]

If you don't want to utilise your kit then fair

[potent echo]

I used Rashad psyker and somehow I prefer illisi

It's more agile, but with worse boss damage

[nocturne dust]

I'm sorry, who was it telling me a couple days ago that Illisi horde clear was 'unneeded'

[plucky flax]

Unneeded in what? Context? Since right now we're talking about surge right click build

[nocturne dust]

Mmmm I think it was gunker or something

which certainly has less horde clear than shriek

[plucky flax]

So you need carapace damage and assails will offset the horde clear.

Context dude

[nocturne dust]

Sure, and the context is this is shriekspam, where the horde is eaten by a shriek rather than assail

[plucky flax]

You get to high peril faster with illisi pumping too

[nocturne dust]

It's EK

why pump

[midnight jolt]

Quick question, after the crafting reword, is it better to find a maxed out weapon or just keep upgrading and changing your old one?
what is the math rule to go one way or the other?

[plucky flax]

When meleeing

[nocturne dust]

It's quite exorbitant in resources to upgrade a weapon

I'd recommend swapping

[midnight jolt]

Swapping/Re-bless is the way to go, got it

[rigid sky]

I still like the Slaughterer/Bloodthirsty build on Illisi

[nocturne dust]

Once you are max level and have found a good weapon to upgrade, it'll cost about 2500 plasteel to empower it from 300 to 500.

[rigid sky]

But the Mettle nerf makes it pretty sad

[midnight jolt]

so in this case is better that buy the one on the left?

[nocturne dust]

buy?

[midnight jolt]

From Melk of course

[nocturne dust]

Nah, I'd just use what drops from matches that you like

I mean that staff is pretty decent but 🤷‍♂️

I find melkcoin very helpful to hunt for curios instead.

[marble crater]

The left one isn't even better

[nocturne dust]

it has blaze away

😎

[midnight jolt]

I'm focusing on the base stats, since you can put whatever blessings you want

[marble crater]

Unlock it but maybe I am out of touch about how the new system works, I just spammed buying weapons, getting them to green and then sell for exp

[nocturne dust]

That only works if you're rich

like us vets

[midnight jolt]

The reason I asked if to buy was because empowering weapons can be expensive?

[nocturne dust]

vets as in old players, not the class

[marble crater]

Guess I am out of touch then, because the first thing I did was craft perfect weapons and I still have plenty

[nocturne dust]

Yeah cuz you and I got a couple million dockets and plasteel casually chilling in our pockets

[marble crater]

I guess, but the right staff has better base stats, imo, because warp resistance is the dump stat

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, I'd say keep the right staff and dump flurry for blaze away

[marble crater]

Burn is fine as long as it's 76% for max stacks

[midnight jolt]

Blaze Away is the new meta?

[marble crater]

Yeah, deals a lot of damage actually

[midnight jolt]

I'm an old/newbie player, I played on GamePass and abandoned my account, 6 months later I bougt on Steam and played for a month so I'm just refreshing my old knowledge 😂

[nocturne dust]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d5f5cb5-afee-4f51-9393-b8429e8c6765/the-burning-man-inferno-guide

Have a guide

[midnight jolt]

I'm an atheneum cultist 😉

[nocturne dust]

[midnight jolt]

You can't blame me, the atheneum has served really good for a long time

[nocturne dust]

Atheneum is good for general advice, but for some reason I think my personal guide that I wrote myself is a lot more accurate for Inferno. Can't imagine why though.

[midnight jolt]

I'm not dismissing your guide, I was just giving you an idea that I like to do some homework 😉

[nocturne dust]

I wasn't offended. Joke is I like my guide because I wrote it.

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/you-are-so-biased-vicky-jain-pinkvilla-your-view-seems-one-sided-gif-4460185384567877902

[nocturne dust]

Although you're welcome to follow the Atheneum. I believe it calls for dumping quell speed on Inferno currently?

[midnight jolt]

Look, it has been updated:

fk, I have to reread most of the thing 😂

[marble crater]

If I could I would dump warp resistance even more on inferno, I had trouble getting peril up

[radiant frigate]

i am not an atheneum believer

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, Atheneum is pretty wrong on Inferno

PF should be above flurry 😭

[radiant frigate]

does it still recommend toughness regen speed

[nocturne dust]

yeh but so do I

[radiant frigate]

you can be wrong sometimes

it's okay

[nocturne dust]

Nonsense, I am infallible

[radiant frigate]

in any case

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/721520171365171284/1311019478313861191/caption.gif

only 2 days until forve greatsword siblings can you believe it!!

[midnight jolt]

My curios are pretty generic, brain dead built

[radiant frigate]

gunner health toughness, a classic

[marble crater]

Those could as well be my screenshots

[upper sun]

no

tho i also disagree with dumping quell

[tight birch]

People who don't take combat ability regen on curios are crazy to me

[nocturne dust]

does more dps than flurry

[upper sun]

by how much?

[nocturne dust]

People who take combat ability regen on curios are crazy to me

[summer prairie]

flurry at least has some synergy with blaze away

[rigid sky]

Flurry is pointless on Inferno imo

[tight birch]

There's literally no reason to double up on gunner and sniper DR

[rigid sky]

It was marginal when we didn't have all the other blessings

[nocturne dust]

not really

[summer prairie]

yes really

[rigid sky]

Since you can spam min charge infernos to maintain BA anyway

[nocturne dust]

not anymore than PF

[upper sun]

i never take resistances on psyker tbh

[rigid sky]

And with a big charge it stacks in like a second anyway

[upper sun]

if i fuck up im dead anyways

[nocturne dust]

.....other than taking less damage

[upper sun]

just hp toughness and combat ability

[plucky flax]

I'd rather use flurry than penetrating flames for sure.

[rigid sky]

Venting Shriek builds with any kind of CDR don't want warp resistance as a general rule

[plucky flax]

It's so bad.

[tight birch]

I can understand gunner res at least but anything else seems super troll, and yeah you have the advantage of just avoiding gunners with range

[rigid sky]

Like it's actively detrimental

[tired estuary]

combat ability on curio? reporting you to inquisition, enjoy being a servitor

[nocturne dust]

[echo root]

Stop recommending toughness regen to new players

[rigid sky]

"Troll" is a bit strong

[nocturne dust]

It really isn't that bad

[plucky flax]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojCWfV6yZhE

[nocturne dust]

No

[tight birch]

What else are you getting hit by that you can't actively avoid by playing well?

[nocturne dust]

[upper sun]

like if you wanna go melee+gunker sure pick gunner but if i play pysker i want to use staves

[nocturne dust]

Actually those curios are outdated, I do need to fix them

But the toughness regen will stay

[rigid sky]

So I don't need curios at all since I'm not getting hit since I'm so good?

[nocturne dust]

[rigid sky]

In reality sometimes I do get tagged by a sniper when I've got 10 other things to worry about at the same time

[tight birch]

You can use stats on curios other than damage resistance, weird strawman

[upper sun]

ur packpack is meshing with ur fannypack

pls report this to fatshark

game breaking bug

[rigid sky]

I'm just saying, "troll" is a silly thing to say anyway

Suboptimal maybe

[tight birch]

Yeah, if I want to play with guns I just play vet / zealot but that's just me, lol

[midnight jolt]

Half of me wanting to play Darktide is because of this chat, you guys are awesome 😂

[plucky flax]

Tru

[radiant frigate]

no space

[rigid sky]

But it's not throwing like taking triple wound curios

[radiant frigate]

at least 2 gunner resist is non-negotiable

[rigid sky]

Idk people have such strong opinions on things lol

[tight birch]

I do have space though

[radiant frigate]

some people even have correct opinions

[upper sun]

also your fov feels different in this video

[midnight jolt]

That's the reason for my curios, all have extra HP, toughness, 2 GR and 1 SR, stamina and 2 main toughness, I feel like nothing there is a waste

[radiant frigate]

enjoy instant death if 2 bursters land on you

[tired estuary]

shaving what, 3 seconds off ult on a class with an already busted cdr aura?

[plucky flax]

It's the same I never change my fov. Maybe it's because my staff is comically big.

[rigid sky]

I always want to have something in my curios to make poxbursters not 2-shot me to death

[radiant frigate]

but you do you i guess

[tight birch]

Why are you getting hit by bursters?

[plucky flax]

I like to play at pretty low fov since I don't have fish eyes.

[tight birch]

Pop them with smite or BB

[radiant frigate]

sometimes it happens

[rigid sky]

Sorry forgot you are perfect and nobody should be playing if they aren't on your level

[blissful solar]

bursters can be ninjas sometimes

[radiant frigate]

sometimes people push them into you

[rigid sky]

We can all quit guys!

[radiant frigate]

sometimes they sneak up

[tired estuary]

sometimes the soyker with kinetic flayer decides to mash their shit on a burster near people

[rigid sky]

Doctor Bread will solo Tertium for us

[radiant frigate]

sometimes teammates explode them on you

[rigid sky]

We don't deserve to be on Atoma

[midnight jolt]

Getting hit by bursters is like collateral damage, you shouldn't care about it at all

it can happen but is not the norm

[tired estuary]

I literally just got out of a match where somebody blew up 3 bursters that dropped near a zealot and instagibbed them

[midnight jolt]

bad luck, but not enough to justify it as a pattern

[blissful solar]

likely the majority reason people get hit by bursters is people blowing them up too late. that's why I've begun just sprinting away early from bursters when I think that might happen

[tight birch]

I don't pick curio stats with the intention that I'm going to be playing poorly and be constantly getting hit by bursters, would rather take generic defense for chip damage and more offense to stop things from hitting me in the first place

[rigid sky]

Who said constantly

I can be playing great for 80% of a match

Then 2 poxbursters jump me simultaneously

[radiant frigate]

pick curio stats to survive edge cases where you made one mistake

[rigid sky]

And then I can't interact anymore, and then the game ends in a loss

[radiant frigate]

instead of instant death

[midnight jolt]

There are bizillion (just exaggerating) of videos on how to deal with bursters, they are so easy to push and avoid

[nocturne dust]

Me watching the poxburster jump at my fleeing teammate, knowing the explosion will hit us both because they didn't try to push:

[tight birch]

Or just use smite

[midnight jolt]

in fact they are a nice bomb for the enemy

[rigid sky]

So you never get tagged by them ever then

[blissful solar]

look man sometimes I swear to god you can push a burster and nothing happens

[rigid sky]

I'm happy that you are perfect and flawless then

[tired estuary]

they need to "activate" to pop after being pushed

[radiant frigate]

this one has never been on the receiving end of a burster pincer maneuver (tunnel with bursters screeching in from both sides)

[tired estuary]

and sometimes they decide to be really funny and aggo on somebody who is past you so you can't push them

[radiant frigate]

also this

[midnight jolt]

Not what I said, sometimes someone else will push them my way or shoot them, idiotically, but doesn't justify me caring about them to have defense against them

[radiant frigate]

push them 4x and they just keep going

[blissful solar]

that's exactly it lol

[upper sun]

it happens often

there is like some failsafe that stops

[tired estuary]

nobody is trying to justify burster resist, they're justifying 200 health breakpoint from curio on human classes

[nocturne dust]

Ya'll never had the bulwark-burster combo?

[rigid sky]

Meanwhile about half of my mission failures on Psyker are poxburster related.

[upper sun]

if it spawns too close to a player sometimes it delays blowing up

[rigid sky]

Bingo

[nocturne dust]

You guys gotta try it, it's to die for.

[radiant frigate]

i am actually

[upper sun]

yeah me too

replace mutie resist with burster resist NOW

[blissful solar]

bursters aren't usually that bad. sometimes you get somewhat unlucky and something like a dog pushes them back into you after you push them.

[nocturne dust]

burster resist?????

[rigid sky]

BTW I'm not saying EVERYBODY needs to go above the burster breakpoint

[ornate abyss]

omg got it on first try

[rigid sky]

I'm just saying it is a valid thing to build against

[radiant frigate]

this was my life before i started building for a bit of health and corruption resist

[summer prairie]

Still not convinced I've ever been exactly hit by 1 sniper and 2 full damage bursters and nothing else during my whole playtime

but more hp good

[upper sun]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1224124456130183300/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2024.04.01_-_00.13.29.19-00.02.42.214-00.02.48.963.mp4?ex=674d8cfd&is=674c3b7d&hm=f212300304fdcf372d72c54f6fe788f73463a77695a6d1744ded8a25537d027b&

[nocturne dust]

I have

😭

Would've been a clean run

[radiant frigate]

bleed for the emperor martyr zealot is remarkably burster-resistant

it is true

[nocturne dust]

ever been burstered into a sniper shot?

[rigid sky]

It's not a day of Darktide without it happening to me at least once

[tight birch]

I only ever take sniper shots on Ogryn because I'm a wide load (and bad at Ogryn)

[radiant frigate]

most of the sniper shots i take are when they're aiming for someone else (no audio cue)

[blissful solar]

the most dangerous time for a sniper is when there's fire, then it's way harder to see their lasers coming

[summer prairie]

well it's not about being hit by either, but all of them happening without any other damage or healing

[upper sun]

i dont run bleed anymore tbh but the funny and sad thing is the psyker died with golden toughness+ 75% of health

[summer prairie]

it's just a 1/1000 game scenario and building around that

[midnight jolt]

Tunnel vision, 1st rule of bursters, you deal with them, don't let someone else to do it, they never do 😂

[radiant frigate]

SEE HOW FAITH MOVES A BODY

[plucky flax]

This is just bad positioning.

[nocturne dust]

well as soon as they invent overhead and chip resistance let me know

[summer prairie]

+5% toughness is chip resistance

[upper sun]

give oggie chip resist

[summer prairie]

if pitiful

[radiant frigate]

Damage Resistance (Idiot with Autogun/Lasgun) would be cool too

[plucky flax]

Give chips.

[rigid sky]

See this is why I love my marksman/ES Vraks 5 veteran build

[plucky flax]

Fries.

Crisps.

[rigid sky]

Optimised to kill trash shooters

[summer prairie]

I'm I also fairly sure I take more damage from various sources of fire than snipers and probably bursters

[rigid sky]

Fire seems to have gotten spicier recently idk

[nocturne dust]

I take 0 damage from fire tho

[summer prairie]

good

[tight birch]

This is just bad play / having a bad team that you got to that point in the first place, you were dead no matter what curio stats you had is all I'm saying

[tired estuary]

have you considered having a good team instead of a bad team

[rigid sky]

By jove you've solved it

[tight birch]

That's why I dodge any team where I'm not paired with 3 Ogryns, guaranteed loss

[radiant frigate]

i can tell you that my current curios would make me survive that

[upper sun]

its boring

i had a 25 minute archivum

i was dealing with the start hoard alone

[radiant frigate]

and yeah i mean generally having teammates is pretty good instead of playing on 2p difficulty but with 4 bodies

[upper sun]

and my team finished the event

not a single person went down all game no one got trapped

it was disgusting

[tired estuary]

sounds like you should've picked up the slack

[upper sun]

there was no slack

i was dealing with a mixed hoard and they finished the event before i finished

[tired estuary]

no I mean you should've picked up the "bad teammates" slack and barreled all of them

[upper sun]

smh those people couldnt even get barreled

[tired estuary]

quittin words

[upper sun]

🚬 you didnt see what i saw 4 people looding a big arena in different directions and no one dying or getting disabled

it was everything fatshark hated

[cloud night]

Heh
Fire
Spicier

[plucky flax]

Bye

[radiant frigate]

😭

[marble crater]

It will escalate in 2 days

[midnight jolt]

should I change this to flak/maniacs?

[left briar]

how do i make pysker not feel weaker than the other classes ?

[rigid sky]

Toughness regen and careful aggression

You have to protect yourself a lot more

[rigid sky]

This is perfect imo.

[left briar]

there some kind of insane soul blaze build

[rigid sky]

There's a few different builds that utilize soul blaze to different extents

Inferno staff and Voidblast staff with Blazing Spirit are the main weapons for it, but any build can make good use of the creeping flames Venting Shriek and Perilous Combustion nodes

Wildfire as a node is... marginal at best and imo not worth the point unless you're doing something really cheap on points like enhanced psionics

also that node which gives toughness regen on killing with soulblaze is typically too many points to invest on getting too small a boost.

the new one on the right side

[radiant frigate]

practice

[rigid sky]

yeah that's the biggest part of it

Also knowing how much to lean on your blitz, since we have the most spammable blitzes of any of the classes (which can be a trap)

[marble crater]

How much? 100% of the time if it's smite

[echo root]

Wildfire is always worth it if you're playing purgatus or voidblast

[radiant frigate]

🅱️urgatus

[plucky flax]

It's impossible. Need buffs to be competitive.

[echo root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1209001993318703104/1309656194419392683/SPOILER_caption.gif

[plucky flax]

Yes.

[radiant frigate]

not to worry, force greatsword only 2 days away

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/721520171365171284/1311019478313861191/caption.gif

[plucky flax]

[radiant frigate]

yuge psyker buff coming in

[plucky flax]

https://tenor.com/view/bloodborne-ludwig-guiding-moonlight-gif-5220904500856857901

Sony still haven't given pc players bloodborne btw.

Bastards.

Or demon's souls remake.

[radiant frigate]

pathetic

am i going to buy an entire console just to play bloodborne? not likely

[spice flame]

am i going to buy an entire console just to play bloodborne? yes

[radiant frigate]

that said i have considered it

[halcyon gust]

And in the next round of map changes they might as well remove the last few pieces of practical cover left and throw in more spawn points

[spice flame]

I mean if BB is to me remade on ps6, well sign me up

is it dumb ? yes

[radiant frigate]

power sword 6 can run bloodborne?

time to main vet

[plucky flax]

I might be tempted to buy ps5 pro in 5 years when it's cheap.

[radiant frigate]

agent has a 5 year plan confirmed

[spice flame]

I have the ps5 noob

It's enough

[plucky flax]

Yeah but I am one of those vain person where I need like the best stuff.

Like mobile phone I need the pro max / ultra version.

[spice flame]

Understandable

[radiant frigate]

not same

getting me to part with my money is not so simple

[plucky flax]

I drive a crappy car and eat shit food.

[upper sun]

one of those is a lie the other is a self made choice because you legit dont care

[radiant frigate]

i do not drive a car (there has been no need thus far)

[summer prairie]

+1,+9,+11 maelstorm, lowest I've seen since launch basically

[radiant frigate]

my phone was released in 2016

[radiant frigate]

powerful

[plucky flax]

Tbf I eat decent so that's a lie. It's true though I am too old to care about fast flashy car.

[radiant frigate]

how old..

[upper sun]

toldya

[plucky flax]

30s

[upper sun]

mind reader clad

[radiant frigate]

oh yeah really old

[spice flame]

...

[upper sun]

NO SHUTUPSHUTUP

30 IS YOUNG

[radiant frigate]

unfortunate is it then that i will also be old soon

[summer prairie]

agreed

[radiant frigate]

28..

[spice flame]

32................

[plucky flax]

2 more years and you become really old.

[upper sun]

i turned 28 last month 😭

[plucky flax]

[left mirage]

so is columnus really the best IAG

[radiant frigate]

clad is younger than me

[cloud night]

Only the bigliest of psyker buffs

[plucky flax]

No it's the vraks.

[upper sun]

WAIT

[radiant frigate]

current columnus or old columnus

[upper sun]

its december

[left mirage]

current?

[upper sun]

2 months ago 😭

[left mirage]

so its the blue one

not the one named columnus

[radiant frigate]

current columnus used to be called graia

[upper sun]

WHO STOLE MY NOVEMBER 31ST

AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[radiant frigate]

old columnus is now called vraks

[left mirage]

ok, tried it and it was kinda whelming

will try vraks

[radiant frigate]

which is the best one unless you also want longrange performance, in which case go agripinaa

if you are using a non-zippy melee then vraks is probably a better choice just for sprint speed

[plucky flax]

Try recon 12 though.

It's very cool.

Bzzzzzrrrr

[radiant frigate]

recon 12 also very good and cool and also hot

[left mirage]

decided to try out infantry autos after using nothing but heavy laspistol

recon is fun

[plucky flax]

Oh ye mk2 las pistol is cool too but a bit ammo hungry.

[radiant frigate]

which heavy laspistol, the regular or the heavy heavy

[left mirage]

the reload is a bit rough on anyone who isnt vet though

[left mirage]

both

[plucky flax]

Recon mk12 is quite efficient I find.

[left mirage]

they both fuck

[radiant frigate]

the heavy heavy i think is a bit cumbersome

[plucky flax]

Also recon 12 has sick hips fire accuracy.

[radiant frigate]

the other one does good enough damage

[radiant frigate]

true and real

[left mirage]

yeah, i like both for sure

[radiant frigate]

sometimes i do not even bother with ads

[left mirage]

recon is nice

[radiant frigate]

just pew pew gently

[left mirage]

just that sometimes i get too into pew pew and reload at a bad time

[plucky flax]

30 metres sniping from the hips

[radiant frigate]

like a full auto laspistol

180 mag size kinda insane too

[plucky flax]

It's still not as cool as bistol though but close.

[spice flame]

B-VII-V-F

Infero staff

[marble crater]

You want to wait an extra day for force greatsword or something?

[ocean totem]

Siblings

I think I rolled the perfect inferno staff

80 on everything but warp

[radiant frigate]

verygoodyes

[ocean totem]

Upgrading it and my bpistol to max rn

I’ve been playing assail gunker and then brain burst spam

Ik bpistol gunker might not be perfect but DAMN does it feel fun

[plucky flax]

It is perfect. You should play it with assails creeping flames. @summer prairie

[summer prairie]

yes

[ocean totem]

I do lol

Sometimes shield

[plucky flax]

Oh no not shield. D:

[ocean totem]

I NEED TO CAREY RANDOMS

OK

ITS HARD SOMETIMES THEY SUCK

MY DREAM MY RULES MY SHIELD

[plucky flax]

Fair. I find creeping flames carry much harder.

[ocean totem]

50/50 tbh :3

I have a perfect b pistol too

Max on everything but reload speed

[upper sun]

fair point

[upbeat schooner]

I just carried so hard I flicked a key off my keyboard

somehow

it was on the side of my keyboard xd

[left mirage]

alright, vraks/columnus is pretty fun

[left mirage]

still prefer heavy laspistol but nice

[summer prairie]

always some soulblaze

[left mirage]

id give my left nut if the force sword gets the bretonian longsword moveset

[fiery stratus]

Zealots powersword is executioner

[left mirage]

goddamn

my martyrdom zeal is gonna get a lot of use again

[plucky flax]

More green bois yes.

[plucky flax]

Also that is the execution sword move set. 😮

[fiery stratus]

Yep zealot Powersword

[plucky flax]

So zealot big sword is going to do some sick single target.

[spice flame]

thammer but good question mark question mark

[fiery stratus]

Makes me wonder if the horizontal will be on the lights. Probably move it to the heavies if I had to guess

Thammer is good, I doubt it'll do as much single target damage

[plucky flax]

Zealot martyrdom big sword is going to cook.

The attack speed

[spice flame]

we dark souls zweihander now

[plucky flax]

More reason to never touch the other 2 stinky classes.

[marble crater]

I'm so looking forward to both those swords

[spice flame]

I

I just clicked "play"

thanks for the mats ig

[upbeat schooner]

same happened to me on my first join today :d

[cloud night]

Had that happen to me the other day
Least its not consistent with it like some other games I used to play were
coughbattlefront 2

[ocean totem]

I love bf2 shhh

[spice flame]

Voidstrike on mostly range is so aaaaaaaaaaaaa

love it

[patent mango]

2 days until psykmas

[prime saddle]

did they fix the psyker animation cancelling stuff?

[patent mango]

no

[prime saddle]

thats odd

the lightning staff thing doesnt work

[spice veldt]

cancelling the RMB cast?

[prime saddle]

yea

by swapping to your blitz

[spice veldt]

did you let go of RMB while casting it? i recall holding down RMB blocking the swap to blitz

so you'd do cast -> let go of RMB -> press grenade button

[prime saddle]

yea it does kinda work still but the timing is different

you cant swap back to the staff as fast any more

i think

[plucky flax]

You still can.

[prime saddle]

yea - its just a bit less consistent and a tiny bit slower

[ornate hamlet]

What’s your guys favorite enemy in this game

[spice veldt]

dreg ragers, because as much as I dislike their current state, I like the fact that they force me away from melee on vet/psyker occasionally
bruisers as well because of their running attacks which tend to catch dodges

[analog agate]

If you are using warp flurry animation canceling doesn’t work on EK staff

Or at least is very inconsistent

[ornate hamlet]

Mine are the fat babies

[summer prairie]

well not exactly inconsistent, you just have to wait until it actually allows you to attack

[plucky flax]

Dreg ragers but when they're green.

[spice veldt]

green men

[prime saddle]

it used to

[plucky flax]

Havoc 40 spawning 100 green dreg ragers.

[analog agate]

Correct. I guess I mean inconsistent in game because you are used to a certain timing and it is now different

[halcyon gust]

Visual wise? Maulers
Gameplay wise? Flamers

[cloud night]

So if theres a shieldker
The consensus is walls are better bc they can stun enemies, yea?

Or is there some shit about the bubble ion know about?

[tired estuary]

kinetic flayer psykers mashing on their shit when bursters are near players

[quartz barn]

bubble is better because it can also stun

[ornate hamlet]

i just like the fat babies

[quartz barn]

you just need to dodge

[halcyon gust]

It really depends on context. Horde of Dogs and Muties? Walls is better
General purpose. Bubble is much better

[tired estuary]

the stun is w/e on walls, double charge is nice for Funny ep bb combo but dome has better coverage and general chill gaming

[thorn cedar]

Wall > Bubble

[tired estuary]

shutting down burgles, blocking specialists, comfy toughness regen

[thorn cedar]

Two walls of the same HP with smaller surface area means much better uptime and results with smart placement

[tired estuary]

idk then I see a gunner shooting from 5 ft elevation past the wall

[thorn cedar]

But bubble has dumb interactions inside of it with projectiles

That makes it hard to ignore lol

Still prefer wall regardless

[halcyon gust]

Walls block the shooters in front of you, but what about the shooters behind you

[analog agate]

Bubble is overall better

[halcyon gust]

Or above you

[thorn cedar]

walk through the shield

now it is behind you

also you get two

[midnight jolt]

https://tenor.com/Gd1I.gif

[thorn cedar]

like that's the point

imagine if it also stunned players lmao

[halcyon gust]

Good keep the zealots from running ahead

[cloud night]

Kek

Id fucking love to see that
Put a wall up
Zealot:

[tired estuary]

probably what you should gather from this is pick wall or dome based on preference

[cloud night]

https://tenor.com/view/smash-wall-cant-leave-gif-16928911

[summer prairie]

https://streamable.com/bfqbnm

oh I didn't have EP stacks

[patent mango]

brainburst if it was epic

[spice veldt]

the dreams of an insane person

[cloud night]

Pair it with a celerity stim and let it fly

[halcyon gust]

Ah yes the classic "Here's a very unrealistic situation of showing how good something is"

[cloud night]

That shit machine guns bb
Pop a shield, celerity, have fun

[patent mango]

that amount of walls is clearly realistic

[summer prairie]

it's very realistic

[spice veldt]

nah i was fooled by the 100 ults into thinking this was an accurate depiction of BB

[summer prairie]

if you have 3 psykers on your team with psykinetic aura killing 50 elites behind you as you do this

barely faster with EP stacks and celerity, would have to do some reverse grenade cancelling to get rid of some animations

too hard

[spice veldt]

shame there isn't a mod that lets you give yourself +10000% attack speed

i will do only good things in the psykh with such buffs

[patent mango]

theres a mod but it only works for zealot....

and needs a lot of wounds....

[spice flame]

LMB EK quell cancel spam is

cringe

[patent mango]

just cap its fire rate or smth

[spice veldt]

chain time (delay to next action) from lmb bolt to the next lmb bolt is 500ms (this essentially means that the LMB bolt's fire rate is 1 / 0.5 = 2 bolts per second. I'm probably missing some time but that's a gist.)
chain time from lmb bolt to quelling is 200ms
so, they have to add 300ms of delay somewhere to fix it

whether that's making the chain time to quelling 500ms or doing something to quelling in general like forcing players to hold quell for a certain amount of time, just like most melee weapons have to stay in block for a bit to prevent players from abusing block-cancelling too hard

[cloud raven]

Absolutely hate kinetic flayer for this reason. Had a teamate just popping every burster because they ran in their flame staff path

[spice flame]

Couldn't be me

Don't inscpect my build tho.

[marble crater]

Aren't they kind of green already?

[plucky flax]

No they are sickly yellow.

[marble crater]

Almost then, a few more months in Tertium and they will be green

Do we think we will get a dev blog about the weapons and/or balance changes tomorrow or shortly before/after the update on Tuesday?

[upper sun]

tomorrow tbh

imagine reading when you can try out the weapons yourself

[marble crater]

It happens I will let the pros here test the best blessings first and then steal their builds

[hazy moss]

i feel like heavy sword can be pretty op on psyker

[analog agate]

I like heavy sword in general. Its downside is carapace. Thing feels good though

[hazy moss]

yea im just gonna pair it with a stave to deal with carapace

[fringe garden]

Heavy sword seems pointless with Illisi existing

[spice veldt]

they still suit different roles and hsword does have brutal momentum, whatever breakpoints you can reach on it with psyker

hsword having obviously worse adms against carapace (and no uncanny strike) but pretty much better heavy damage on everything else

[marble crater]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/721520171365171284/1311019478313861191/caption.gif

None of this is going to matter in two days

[patent mango]

40 hours until psykmas

[halcyon gust]

Would be nice to know what is being changed ahead of time to figure out how to adapt builds around them

[patent mango]

removed duelling sword from the game

no more

[halcyon gust]

Just remove Zealots ability to use them

[cloud night]

No more dueling sword
No more knife
Matter of fact its just the crusher
Thats all you get

[little kayak]

I dont think they'll take dueling sword off them unfortunately, but if they hit it anywhere I would say in dodges and cleave. Little ridiculous it is better than force swords at armor while having the best dodges outside of knife and still can have semi-generous horde clear

It's like so obviously intended to be a melee backup with like pyro staff or something

[hollow maple]

weave 160 vietnam flashbacks

[fiery stratus]

[hearty laurel]

i am i am so ready

[fiery stratus]

the most likely thing to happen to ds4 is getting balanced down to the level of the others

if you look at the raw stats its almost double in every catagory over the others

[spice veldt]

yeah. classes with melee stuff making it a better melee weapon is fine
a -33% damage nerf to the stab heavies puts it at the same relative numbers as DS5/combat blades

and killing uncanny strike for once and all

since uncanny strike is using pre-rework rending numbers of 120%, back when it was multiplicative with (100% - ADM)

if you look at post-rework rending numbers in talents like Rending Strike, Exploit Weakness, Onslaught, Penetration of the Soul, etc., the numbers are MUCH less

this is a case where we have some easy reference numbers to use as a baseline for how to nerf the weapon & blessing, and it's just a matter of them actually doing it

the stabs could also have less active frames

[little kayak]

Can't wait for another 8 months of how they "killed" DS this time just like power sword is "dead"

Plasma vets will be in shambles soon

[fiery stratus]

powersword is still good

[patent mango]

and still boring

[fiery stratus]

yes but its fine

[ocean totem]

lol just got called a shit useless psyker cause I didn’t take shield

[fringe garden]

lol, on what difficulty?

[patent mango]

lmao how

[fringe garden]

Shield is okay, but in no way required

Where are all of these mythical shit talkers at? I never get to see them ingame.

[patent mango]

probably not in auric

[fringe garden]

Yeah it sounds like some mouth breathing Malice shit, lol

[ocean totem]

Damnation

The pox tree mission

[narrow lichen]

Is Disrupt Destiny bugged?

[patent mango]

no

if its not showing up its visual only

[narrow lichen]

Like at random it refuses to mark enemies

[patent mango]

it only marks certain enemies so not horde

[narrow lichen]

i get that

but it way too inconsistent

[patent mango]

are you using perfectiotnism

[narrow lichen]

I tried that before

the stacks just dont last long enough

so i switched to the 10s one

[patent mango]

ye

[narrow lichen]

so switch is better

cause im doing it for a penance

[patent mango]

disrupt shouldnt be too inconsistent

[narrow lichen]

so far 459 of 1800

[patent mango]

so idk

[narrow lichen]

im having enemies directly in front of me with my back to a wall and it doesnt mark them

Fatshark needs to rework that so it marks within your FOV

[sweet pebble]

Is using the laser rifle on the psyker okay or is the staff better?

[spice flame]

Both

Psyker can use guns, there's some neat builds to that

[cloud night]

Alr
Which knife should I give someTLC too?

Or should I just go gamble at at the armory?

[narrow lichen]

Neither

[spice flame]

Let's go gamble

[cloud night]

Fuck hold on

Same screen twice