psyker-class

[nocturne dust]

Flurry and nexus

Surge does not work on rmb

[thin knoll]

Yall excited for the new swords?

[nocturne dust]

No, it only targets elites

[waxen jackal]

Lame. I was hoping it did. Thanks

[nocturne dust]

Begone with ye scrier's EK nonsense

[jovial juniper]

Weakling

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/get-away-satan-not-today-gtfoh-go-away-gif-22984661

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/playing-brooklyn99-b99-terry-crews-bat-gif-5767366

[rigid mortar]

So what exactly is an elite? Because I noticed that I was able to two tap a rager. Unless there was so buff going on

[nocturne dust]

Ragers, Maulers, Gunners, Shotgunners, Bulwarks, Crushers, and Reapers

[rigid mortar]

So is elite damage just a personal preference

[nocturne dust]

but, again, elite damage is bad because it doesn't change the number of attacks you have to do except on a single type of gunner

well not bad

just not the best imo

[waxen jackal]

Yeah I just learned the difference between elites and specialists not too long ago. I thought they were all the same

[nocturne dust]

Basically, you still have to make the same number of attacks against maulers with or without elite damage

the +damage isn't helpful in that case

[rigid mortar]

Wait you didn’t know the difference from bingoblobs and the vorgydings?

Need to play 24/7

[nocturne dust]

Perfect Timing moment

Also crits are a thing

[waxen jackal]

I'm almost at the 200 hour mark tho. I'm proud of that.

Do yall think we will ever get another stave?

[rigid mortar]

Who knows tbh

[jovial juniper]

6 years

[waxen jackal]

I hope so. The electro staff is the last one I have to level. I don't really have any desire to level guns on psyker

[split lance]

Best staff in the game

On god

No cap

[waxen jackal]

Frfr?

[delicate dove]

Probably, works super well with disrupt destiny. The bolts get OP to spam and the lightning improved

[jovial juniper]

[rigid mortar]

But I have an idea for a blitz overhaul
So this came from the idea of using the dome shield. So I thought can a blitz do that? So here is what I got
Brain burst will have an augment that allows you to target multiple enemies and once you have completed the cast a 2 second timer will start. After the time all of their heads will pop causing them to be staggered and make other enemies cower in fear.
Smite can get a ball lighting thing where you cast and release and the ball will zap anything that is close. The ball will last for 10-20 seconds.
Assail will get three large javelins. These javelins can pierce carapace armor but has a much longer cool down. Plus has better tracking but will only go towards two enemies.
Don’t know if these ideas are good but a pysker can dream

[nocturne dust]

EK is the perfect staff to enable creeping flames spam and Perilous Combustion. Psykinetics lets the spam go crazy, and the shrieking takes care of horde clear.

That's why it's the strongest, it's just fast and enables the strongest parts of the Psyker's toolkit

[radiant ice]

Huh

I used the EK staff briefly when it was added and didn’t like it

The stun felt too short/focused on one thing

[strong gulch]

Now put down that many health packs.

[waxen jackal]

Well I'm looking forward to using it. I really love all the staffs. It's hard to pick a favorite

[radiant ice]

I’m enjoying the Voidstrike build Deadvoid made

[nocturne dust]

It is also the staff that is finickiest/scales the hardest

[radiant ice]

Ended up running with the Sciers one

[nocturne dust]

If you don't have everything perfect, it falls behind the other staves hard

[radiant ice]

Once I got the flow, damn it’s fun

[nocturne dust]

[radiant ice]

But I’m between Inferno and Voidblast for my favourite

Voidblast cause it’s the OG, inferno cause blue fire

[waxen jackal]

Same. But I like scriers voidstrike a lot too. But fire is cool

[nocturne dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1310894228339167334/Fire_Elmo_V5.gif

[strong gulch]

Surge / EK staff has been around since launch. It has been reworked tho.

[radiant ice]

It blurs for me, as I played the early playtests

When the only option was Voidblast

And Obscurus force sword

[radiant ice]

Don’t suppose you have some weird off-meta Inferno build?

[nocturne dust]

Not really sadly

[radiant ice]

Ah shame

[strong gulch]

In the beta right before launch until now, it's just been the 4 staves.

I feel you on things blurring. I didn't playtest the game or anything, just played the beta.

[radiant ice]

May play around with it tomorrow and see what I can come up with

[nocturne dust]

There is a Scrier's Inferno build

but it's just

more damage

🤷‍♂️

[radiant ice]

I mean I’d be up for giving it a go since Venting seems unnecessary on Inferno

Builds up peril way too slow to blow up

[nocturne dust]

Venting is my preference actually

[strong gulch]

SG WU fire trauma with crystalline will and wound curios.

[radiant ice]

Lmao

[nocturne dust]

The important part about venting is it doesn't have the same cap Inferno does, and has more range, and is instant

[radiant ice]

Yeah that’s what my current inferno build has

I just feel the damage is lacking compared to my others

But I didn’t know about how crits are per tick and not per burst

So def need to rework it

Out of curiosity, what keystone for Inferno?

[nocturne dust]

Warp Siphon

[strong gulch]

Meta is warp siphon / charges

[radiant ice]

Alrighty, I’m also right on that one at least xD

[strong gulch]

purg / inferno does slot well with EP BB tho

[nocturne dust]

Every staff performs better at higher difficulties, but Inferno especially so

[radiant ice]

I think my biggest need is swapping Penetrating Flame to Blaze Away

[nocturne dust]

Yes, Blaze Away is like the biggest thing on Inferno

[radiant ice]

Oh I only play Auric Maelstrom now unless with a group that want to do otherwise

[nocturne dust]

Then use the Blaze Away

[radiant ice]

Will do

I think my favourite so far is still Voidblast though

[strong gulch]

blast or strike?

[radiant ice]

Blast

Back in the early playtests when it was one map

And Psyker only had that staff and revolver

It’s been my beloved for a long time

[strong gulch]

early trauma was...

[radiant ice]

Even if… yeah

[clear heath]

back when trauma was 50% of your peril

[radiant ice]

And so damn slow

But still

It’s been there since those days

I will have to see if I can mix up my Voidblast build

It’s based around building 6 warp charges and never using F to keep the stacks

Not sure if that’s actually a good idea

[patent mango]

guys i got this new shockwave blessing for force gs

https://tenor.com/view/ludwig-holy-blade-bloodborne-ludwig-gif-26860477

[nocturne dust]

is generally not if you're going for max meta

[radiant ice]

Do share your wisdom on me boom staff

[nocturne dust]

shriek good

More shriek gooder

The reason to take Warp Siphon is the cooldown reduction to spam more shriek, not to buff staff

[strong gulch]

Unhinged and not the best voidblast build. Just cast at 100% peril.

OH WAIT, don't take the ranged damage node. IDK if that's been changed or not.

In previous patched it didn't work on voidblast's RMB/ secondary.

[radiant ice]

Hmm that’s an interesting build

Didn’t realise the crit nodes and such would be useful on blast

[strong gulch]

Interesting is a kinda word. lmao

[radiant ice]

Honestly I liked unhinged builds more than meta ones

[strong gulch]

yes crits. to proc nexus for blazing spirit

[radiant ice]

So I’m gonna tailor that a little and see what I can do

Ohhh blazing spirit?

I typically use Warp Flurry

Cause rapids booms

[strong gulch]

Meta trauma is flak + crit chance and nexus + blazing spirit

[nocturne dust]

Did somebody say

Symmetrical Perfection

[clear heath]

thanks i hate it

[patent mango]

looks meta enough to me

[radiant ice]

If you can do an Auric Maelstrom with that without dying, you win Psyker

[nocturne dust]

Best part about the build is being able to screw with others by having a wall that doesn't block specials

[radiant ice]

You become our Primaris Psyker

[nocturne dust]

It's actually not that bad

Inferno just Infernos regardless of build, and you have wall to ignore snipers so

[radiant ice]

Huh

[strong gulch]

Arco summoning ritual

[radiant ice]

I’m gonna give that a go tomorrow then

[strong gulch]

dump warp resist

[radiant ice]

Why Flak over Carapace?

Doesn’t Carapace have a bigger damage resist?

Is it more of a breakpoint thing?

[strong gulch]

Because the boom and SB hit where most enemies are flak or die anyways.

for cara you can blast em and/ or stab them with your single target option.

[clear heath]

There is 1 carapace enemy

[nocturne dust]

Carapace only really affects crushers

unless you're head-hitting maulers

[strong gulch]

yip

[radiant ice]

That makes sense

Guess I’ll make a Voidblast soulblaze build

[clear heath]

or shoulder hitting reapers

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-i-dont-think-they-dont-exist-wesley-and-buttercup-the-princess-bride-gif-13835808

[radiant ice]

Hmmm

Why does Psyker have to have so much cool shit

I can’t decide on a build to stick to xD

Thank the Omnissiah for loadouts

[lean mural]

can someone please explain to me why everyone dickrides the deimos force sword so hard

it's got the "needs nontrivial setup to land activated hits without eating shit" of the obscurus but at least that one can hit more than one heretic at a time

if i take the illisi i can still get deflector and i can horde clear like a mf. "oh you lose single target damage" i would like you to meet my friend brain burst

[ornate hamlet]

what skins do u guys recommend for psyker

this is my psyker

[clear heath]

anyways if you really hate crushers, use this awful build and make one of the worst weapons for crusher one-shot them

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/487110864504094730/1311371928178786334/illisi_propaganda.mp4?ex=67489dc7&is=67474c47&hm=aea5773de27162d6bb7acb282d6f9ad5738bf1d8adf6c9f795e1242b877636df&

[radiant ice]

The skins of heretics

[clear heath]

totally normal situation that doesn't require stacking a billion buffs to work

[nocturne dust]

very sane buff bar

[radiant ice]

In seriousness, whatever you think looks cool. This is mine

[nocturne dust]

All of them

[patent mango]

dude even took elite dmg aura

[clear heath]

very normal situation

[spice veldt]

gaming

[strong gulch]

People like deimos for the H2, not the special. It also has better dodges than illisi. Crushers are handled much better with the deimos that the illisi. They are different use cases. If I take deimos, I prefer to take it if I have warp splitting and need something to deal with cara and want something that I can push my way through hordes with. Basically it's a gunker option for me.

[nocturne dust]

ahem ALL OF THEM

[clear heath]

imagine you see a single crusher, and coincidentally, you immediately get 8 DD targets, got 30 stacks of scrier, 5 crits, and 5 warp kills

it would go so hard on that 1 crusher

[patent mango]

illisi moveset is sad

[radiant ice]

Wait there is a load out mod?

[patent mango]

its just sweeps guh

[nocturne dust]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/209

You can change it to give you even more loadouts

I think I have it set to 36?

[patent mango]

why does fatshark not have this by default

[nocturne dust]

[radiant ice]

Awesome, grabbing that. Any thoughts on this while I have you?

[nocturne dust]

Wat weapon?

[radiant ice]

Inferno

[nocturne dust]

Hhhmmm, I love KD too much to ever drop it, but I understand it's unlikely to help in most scenarios. I will say going for the crit aura probably isn't worth the extra point.

Especially if you have warp nexus on the staff.

I would also take quietude over the purple toughness node

[radiant ice]

That’s fair! I often just play with another Psyker that runs cdr aura

[strong gulch]

I'd take the CRD aura and grab the crit node instead

[spice flame]

Drop that purple toughness node

[nocturne dust]

This is true, there's a 5% crit sub node above KD

[strong gulch]

Also quietude over warp expenditure

[radiant ice]

But then I lose perfect timing

[nocturne dust]

They're doing that to get perfect timing

since mettle done broke, it's not a terrible choice

[lean mural]

i keep seeing builds where people are using it with staffs? boggles the mind. it's like, no, the build is just good enough that you won't notice the sword is godawful.

but tbh when i played gunker i also didn't use it, because dueling sword was just infinitely better and didn't compete with scrier's for my peril meter.

[spice veldt]

i feel like you are reading over the fact that you don't use the special much or at all

[radiant ice]

Yup that's my thinking

[nocturne dust]

Deimos is great tho

Just don't use the special

It sucks

Use h2

[patent mango]

deimos is pretty good

[lean mural]

deflector + kd also consumes peril

[spice veldt]

well, don't use deflector?

you're not exactly forced to run that blessing

[nocturne dust]

Also you can use this guide for my general advice

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d5f5cb5-afee-4f51-9393-b8429e8c6765/

[nocturne dust]

and... is that... bad?

[spice veldt]

i don't run deflector either, and I also prefer the ds4 over the deimos for various reasons

[lean mural]

no, but like. why take a force sword at all otherwise. the great parts about it are deflector and the force push

[spice veldt]

because of the good damage on normals?

[nocturne dust]

Well no

[strong gulch]

Deimos isn't awful. Getting to the H2 is annoying imo tho. It's fussy. Both illis and deimos are good.

Looking forward to the now force greatsword.

[nocturne dust]

The great part about deimos is it does damage

a lot of damage

[radiant ice]

How's this amendment?

[clear heath]

you still have the force push tho

[nocturne dust]

Deimos is the best non-force forcesword

[spice flame]

"Deimos is god awful"

[nocturne dust]

and with slaughterer its normal are actually very decent for horde clear

[radiant ice]

Ah awesome thanks

[patent mango]

deimos is the funny weapon u go h2 if u want the guy in front of you to not be there anymore

[lean mural]

it isn't bad, but my point was that even if i don't use its bad special it's still competing with scrier's for my peril meter

[patent mango]

it doesnt use peril

[lean mural]

the push does

[spice veldt]

the push-ATTACK does

the push doesn't

[nocturne dust]

That... that sounds like a non-issue

[patent mango]

just do the push not the follow up

[nocturne dust]

Scrier + Staff exists

[lean mural]

i have exploded from using the push at too much peril

[nocturne dust]

🤷‍♂️

[patent mango]

yea

you get used to that

[lean mural]

not the push attack

[spice veldt]

once again, the push-attack generates peril

the push itself does not generate peril

[lean mural]

i beg to differ

[nocturne dust]

Yes. Get better at managing peril.

[patent mango]

its annoying but it is what it is

[radiant ice]

You think it’s worth dropping void battery? That seems like a big price for Empathetic Evasion

[spice veldt]

buddy, they removed the push generating peril from force swords at launch in 2022

[strong gulch]

only the push attack hitting an enemy does peril with force swords

[spice veldt]

you are high off your rockers

[patent mango]

oh god

[lean mural]

i haven't done it recently

[patent mango]

imagine that today

[broken carbon]

oh it did in beta?

[spice veldt]

ye

[broken carbon]

i knew i remembered that

[patent mango]

i didnt even remember push generating peril

[broken carbon]

i’m not insane!

[spice veldt]

i wasn't around for that though since i was a vet main back then

[patent mango]

its been so long

[spice flame]

Deimos H2 nullifies crushers/maulers. It's safer than Ds too.

[broken carbon]

sorry for ur loss….

[patent mango]

deimos is kinda safer?

[spice veldt]

tragic

[patent mango]

idk ds has that mobility

[broken carbon]

the stagger on h2 is what makes it safe

the mobility helps

[patent mango]

yeah i'd rather have mobility imo

[nocturne dust]

Battery isn't actually all that useful. It's a very minor node.

[broken carbon]

but being able to through crushers to the floor is pretty big

[lean mural]

i can sorta see the gunker use case but in no universe is deimos safer than dueling mk4 if you know how to dodge

[strong gulch]

H2 stagger and force sword pushes

[radiant ice]

Hrmm, may trade it for KD then

[clear heath]

If you are spamming shriek as often as you should, you won't even get battery up half the time

[nocturne dust]

Because it's only extra max stacks, which you may not reach before shrieking again. It's helpful, granted, but not the biggest thing.

[patent mango]

the stagger is kinda annoying too

it took a while to get used to it but since it can frick over bulwarks its nice

[spice flame]

Yes it is. Imagine being forced to back up, against a wall or an object that screws your dodge

[nocturne dust]

You're comparing Deimos to the most OP melee currently in the game

Of course Deimos is worse than DS4

[broken carbon]

also true

[lean mural]

i'm not. someone else said deimos was safer.

which i agree it is not.

[nocturne dust]

I mean it does let you block bullets

That's one thing it has over DS4

[spice flame]

I'm Not saying the Deimos is better than Ds mind you, ofc

[broken carbon]

someone in gameplay help earlier was asking what the pros and cons of taxe vs ds

it’s the ds4, it’s basically all cons no matter the weapon lmfao

[lean mural]

that's the thing. i really like that ability. it feels thematic as hell.

[broken carbon]

the only thing is horde clear

i wonder what the force greatsword block will be like

[nocturne dust]

I mean, there is sentiment, sentiment I agree with, that deflector should be built-in to force swords

[clear heath]

I hope force greatsword has the same push the other force weapons have

[waxen jackal]

I feel like 75% of my deaths are getting stuck on something at the wrong time

[patent mango]

deflector is fine but like

[nocturne dust]

but that's kinda a different topic

[patent mango]

i can just slide

[clear heath]

the bigger ranged push is nice to have

[lean mural]

fs doesn't love us enough to give us this, aside from indeed being a diff topic i'll just get wistful and melancholic if i dwell on it

[spice flame]

Deimos PA can trigger mind flayer, it's not useful but, funny when it happens

[delicate dove]

Deimos just feels like kind of an awkward middle ground between ds 4 and illisi, might as well just pick one of those

[patent mango]

wym they dont love us we're getting force greatsword

[lean mural]

my man

[spice flame]

Feels bad not being loved enough

[lean mural]

fr though i see so many people here and elsewhere talking it up i am trying so hard to like deimos and i just do not vibe

[spice flame]

Happens

And it's ok

[delicate dove]

It's okay, but I've wanted to like it and just haven't got much from it

I like the blade tho. Lol

[patent mango]

deimos is probably my current fav psyker melee

[waxen jackal]

Is that why sometimes enemies heads pop? Like using a staff or sword

[lean mural]

i honestly kind of hate the blade. skinny dicc lookin ahh sword

[spice flame]

Yes

[delicate dove]

He's special ok

[waxen jackal]

I was wondering why that was happening

[delicate dove]

At least it's not the paddle (obscuris) lol

[spice flame]

Any attack from you can trigger Mind flayer

[strong gulch]

If you don't like it, then you don't like it. 🫡

I don't love voidstrike. I give it a go once a month and then deside that's enough.

[lean mural]

can anyone recommend me a build that's going to really show me the niche that deimos fills

i want to give it the fairest possible shake

[spice flame]

Deimos PA does One singular damage, so, it triggers it

[lean mural]

same tbqfh although going from galaxy brain finesse psyker to "haha warp chungus says no" was funny

[idle marsh]

Voidstrike is awesome for me. It’s a better Plasma gun

[waxen jackal]

Yeah I'm reading the skill over again. I guess I forgot about the any attack.

[clear heath]

I think most staff builds are gonna want deimos as a sidearm. Most builds generally aren't gonna focus on it

[delicate dove]

Metas in every single game be like "ok cool, you've reached high skill. Now only use 5% of the items and skills in the game or suffer."

[spice flame]

And tbh, I only take Deimos when using inferno staff, cause low range, I can use deflection in a pinch. Saved my life once of twice

[patent mango]

i really feel like im gonna forget about the current force swords when gs is out

deimos and illisi both have massive problems for me lmao

deimos you dont use the warp attack ever and illisi has the god emperors most boring moveset

[clear heath]

Like i'll take deimos for staff builds instead of illisi because generally they want more single target, and it just has noticebly better dodges

[lean mural]

i take a weird autistic route to get to where i'm at with force swords

i like using them because they're psyker-unique, but then i want to use the things that make them unique, like deflector and the special attacks

so then i end up only ever using illisi

[patent mango]

deflector is cool but i just dont vibe with its pace

at all

[idle marsh]

Same reason I prefer Heavy Swords to Power Swords on vet

[lean mural]

i use it more as a fallback tbh, i just like playing the untouchable jedi when i have to

[patent mango]

oh power sword is so repetitive

i cant use it for longer than a match

[spice flame]

Well, yeah, melee weapons are a fallback option on most psyker builds imo

[delicate dove]

Maybe it'd be useful if there was some ability to increase movements speed from blocking attacks? So you can push ranged enemies or something. Idfk

[lean mural]

i mean deflector specifically

[patent mango]

idk i'd rather just dodge really

[spice flame]

Ah, yeah

[patent mango]

i want force gs to address this

and become a primary option

[spice flame]

Same

[clear heath]

A lot of the time I'm only pulling out a sword on staff psyker for like a crusher, mutant, or boss. Deimos ends up handling those well while also having better dodges than Illisi.
Although dueling sword would end up being better anyways

[spice flame]

Thing is

Ds is kinda boring

Deimos is funy

[nocturne dust]

I mean, Deimos is my favorite psyker melee

[patent mango]

i used ds4 for so long and its just like brain empty now

[delicate dove]

I'm hopeful, they stressed the force great sword would be nimble and shoot moonlight sword beams, and I desperately want it to be good

[patent mango]

i really want it to be good

[nocturne dust]

It avoids the stupid issue of charge specials by having one that is completely worthless

[lean mural]

i like ds better for classes that aren't psyker

on shout vet and chorus zealot it feels a lot like saltzpyre's rapier and that is high praise

[clear heath]

Illisi is actually pretty nice at scaling with buffs on a full melee build

[nocturne dust]

and it has good horde clear while also doing tons of single target

[idle marsh]

It’s broken though

[clear heath]

I joked about it earlier, but it actually does do really well with more reasonable buffs because of illisi special's cleave distribution

[lean mural]

don't threaten me with a good time

[nocturne dust]

Illisi being reliant on damage buffs tho is

[delicate dove]

The special or the blessings?

[clear heath]

By melee psyker buffs i mean like, 15DD stacks, scriers, and slaughterer up

[idle marsh]

I tried a really shit build that only really used double wall to rapid fire brain bursts, I don’t think I ever died more in a single game

[delicate dove]

Yeah, fuck it. Let the veterans handle the monstrosities

[idle marsh]

Fine idea but it was late at night, I didn’t test it in easier difficulties, and I didn’t have good CC

Also I was squishy af

But it was fun to melt Crushers

[nocturne dust]

yes

BB buff when

[clear heath]

Illisi without buffs is a bit unfortunate

[idle marsh]

Might try it again with Trauma

[delicate dove]

What would a good brain burst buff be, literally just more damage?

[nocturne dust]

Illisi without Scrier's and DD is a pretty mediocre weapon

[lean mural]

what i'm getting from this is i should try sticking deimos on my inferno build

[radiant ice]

Well, lastly may as well ask, anyone got an electro staff build? Wanna get the mastery on it but never could get the hang of it

[delicate dove]

Every time brain burst needs a buff

[lean mural]

which is a bullshit scrier's crit build because funi warp powars

[nocturne dust]

Make it charge based on enemy health and always 1-shot

[lean mural]

for surge staff i run wall shield with bb and warp charges

aura is dealer's choice of the left two

[nocturne dust]

and also let it get EP stacks from specialists

and change kinetic resonance to be.... more

[delicate dove]

I could get aboard. What about monstrosities? Just absurd charge time?

[nocturne dust]

Something like that.

[delicate dove]

"guys cover me so I can 1 shot"

[nocturne dust]

But then thammer hits half its health and you instantly pop bonbon

[strong gulch]

#psyker-class message

[delicate dove]

Would be interesting to have a Psyker boss melter that's not just gunker

[nocturne dust]

Beam staff

[spice flame]

Minigun staff

[delicate dove]

Psyker laser pointer

[nocturne dust]

Beam staff should be a right side staff

Make it do funny things with scrier's

[delicate dove]

fatshark demo staff

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/smg4-mario-black-hole-sucked-into-black-hole-supermarioglitchy4-gif-26442379

live footage of upcoming staff

Trust

[lean mural]

you can't fool me, that's from unreal 2

[delicate dove]

source 2

[nocturne dust]

oh okay, here is better angle

[idle marsh]

Are we the smartest class

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/sagittarius-black-hole-gif-13848412857652352521

[lean mural]

thicc

[delicate dove]

We're the most autistic class

1000%

[nocturne dust]

Psykers are the smartest because they can just read the mind of anyone trying to be smarter than them

[zinc phoenix]

until they get their brain eaten by a demon

[spice flame]

And explode doing so

[zinc phoenix]

so maybe not the smartest

[nocturne dust]

Just read the demon's mind

[idle marsh]

That’s a sign of intelligence

[nocturne dust]

"I know about that time in Grandpappy Nurgle's Kindergarten when you peed yourself in front of the other daemons"

Emotional damage

[fathom adder]

Nurgle shitters are leaking bodily fluids at all times

[nocturne dust]

Makes it all the more embarassing

bros can't even keep it in their pants

[idle marsh]

Honestly all the classes have similar skill ceilings

[nocturne dust]

Smh my head

[vivid nimbus]

what other maps are good for cliff hanger i cant get this damn thing

[nocturne dust]

Hab Dreyko's end pipe is often recommended

[lean mural]

this is where i got it

[vivid nimbus]

ill try that then

[nocturne dust]

at the first bend is a spot where a horde drops right next to a ledge

[lean mural]

smelter complex finale also isn't bad for anything that requires lots of horde

[delicate dove]

As long as you use smite and shriek it's inevitable

[vivid nimbus]

not for me thats all i been using

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, just do short rmb spam until penance done

with non-EP smite

the only time you don't want to do damage

[radiant ice]

So what's the flow of Electro staff? Do I use right click for damage or purely to stun?

[lean mural]

it's got maybe the quickest charge of any staff? not sure but it's plenty fast

all the more so with flurry on it

[radiant ice]

Oh I get that

I mean more, what's the gameplay loop

[zinc phoenix]

mmm it big brain time
- a demon, probably

[spice flame]

Right click electro staff does insane single target damage

So the flow is

[lean mural]

i'll take it out to either stun things that i know are going to be high priority for everyone (crushers and maulers mostly, ragers if i feel frisky)

or to stun and kill things that need to go away right the fuck now (disablers, bombers, gunners if nobody else is dealing with them because i also run wall shield)

[spice flame]

Right click
Right click
Right click
Right click

[delicate dove]

I've pivoted away from warp flurry after a long time using it, pretty sure it breaks celerity stim and isn't as helpful as the critical blessings

[vivid nimbus]

its hard to do it when the group doesnt want to help and they run off ahead and eat the horde

[lean mural]

i can't break my vermintide habit of seeing stims as a fallback for difficulty spikes rather than a spendable resource

[vivid nimbus]

stims take too much time to use and last too short for the critical situations they are meant for

[radiant ice]

Ahh yeah I see the flow

[delicate dove]

Also I think WF decreases your spammable RMB speed? 🤔

That's how it felt

[lean mural]

not sure about that one but i'm always full-charging it anyway because it's that fast

[radiant ice]

Would Scier's Gaze be a good one for this staff?

[nocturne dust]

Flurry does on EK

[radiant ice]

It seems to generate peril super fast

[delicate dove]

Ok, I'm not crazy

[lean mural]

i don't fuck with scrier's for any staff but inferno

that's otherwise a gunker ult for me

[nocturne dust]

But Flurry + Nexus is still optimal on EK

even with the bug

[radiant ice]

How so?

[nocturne dust]

It still speeds up charging

by a lot

[spice flame]

More spam more crit

[radiant ice]

Ah I thought the bug meant it decreased it

[delicate dove]

I dunno, I started using the double shot blessing and never looked back, generally it has higher DPS than charging lightning

[nocturne dust]

Surge only works on lmb

LMB and RMB EK are separate builds

[delicate dove]

Oh, sure

[radiant ice]

I am confused

Is Warp Flurry bugged in such a way that it reduces right click spam?

[nocturne dust]

It increases minimum time between rmb casts

[delicate dove]

Makes the recovery longer, yeah

[radiant ice]

Ohhh

[nocturne dust]

still reduces maximum time by a lot

[radiant ice]

Makes sense, gotcha

[waxen jackal]

Is there a reason people tag stuff a ton of times? Just to be annoying

[nocturne dust]

I can't see crap

Tag the crap

[delicate dove]

Habit, see enemies better, autism

[radiant ice]

Please tag everything

[nocturne dust]

It's your civic duty for the guy doing all the DPS

[radiant ice]

So i don't get blindsided

And so vets can snipe them

Or me if using a BB build

[waxen jackal]

I understand tagging. But they will tag the same thing like 10 times

Back to back to back

[radiant ice]

It shouldn't be alive long enough for that

[nocturne dust]

if they're like spamming the same target a ton, probably bound lmb to tagging which is... a choice

[lean mural]

they're probably shitting their pants about it and want you to kill it fast

[delicate dove]

I tag for me and me alone

[waxen jackal]

It was every enemy lol

[lean mural]

or they have tag bound to primary fire yeah

which is assclown behavior

[radiant ice]

Hmm with how fast it builds up charge, is Quell Speed the dump on electro?

[delicate dove]

Only times I'll spam it is if I'm surrounded by 10 crushers alone lol

[waxen jackal]

And this is kind of an embarrassing question. But what does each of the stims do? I have an idea, but I don't know for sure

[nocturne dust]

me getting left by the team to deal with the whole mixed horde

[lean mural]

i started out a witch hunter captain main wayyyy back when i first got into vermintide 2 during lockdown

so i have been tagging shit like it's going out of style as a part of my normal gameplay loop

[spice flame]

Vet spamming the focus tag, because bound to the fire key, thus losing the damage bonus, is a vibe.

[delicate dove]

They do several things each and aren't much explained so don't feel bad

[waxen jackal]

This but ragers

[waxen jackal]

Time to put darktide down for the night

[nocturne dust]

when the Director tells you to touch grass

[delicate dove]

LMB LMB LMB LMB LMB

[nocturne dust]

lmb spam is heresy

[waxen jackal]

That's been all my matches today. It's been insane. We had 6 poxbursters, I turh a corner 8 shotgunneds

[nocturne dust]

boring heresy, but still heresy

[delicate dove]

I wanna live tho

[waxen jackal]

Yeah I didn't know if I missed the explanation or what. Med stim is obvious. And combat stim I assume is melee damage

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/weakness-disgusts-me-madara-uchiha-madara-naruto-weakness-disgust-me-gif-17219305

Die for the god emperor

and serve him in death, pre-servitor

[waxen jackal]

Thank you this is perfect

[nocturne dust]

Red do damage, blue make faster, green health, yellow give ability faster cooldown

[spice flame]

I think
I've been stung by a mosquito

[waxen jackal]

So celerity is really good for psykers

[nocturne dust]

Nice... 😎 Stimfo

[delicate dove]

I love to stim

[nocturne dust]

I never stim

Except with green

[waxen jackal]

I stimmed once and now I can't stop

[nocturne dust]

Eh

[nocturne dust]

Red is much more helpful

[spice flame]

Yes but blue stim makes pretty flames

[delicate dove]

If you use warp flurry on your electro staff on celerity stim it will make the RMB SUPER slow

[nocturne dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1310894228339167334/Fire_Elmo_V5.gif

[delicate dove]

FIX IT

[spice flame]

Yay

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/no-nope-no-way-noo-absolutely-not-gif-20244171

[lean mural]

if this is some absolute single-celled integer overflow typa shit i'm gonna laugh

[spice veldt]

it's getting fixed in the next update according to a playtester

[waxen jackal]

Why wouldn't celerity still make brain rupture faster? Dumb

[nocturne dust]

and mettle, right?

....and mettle, right?

[spice flame]

Yikes

[spice veldt]

in our dreams maybe

[waxen jackal]

Mettle I hardly know her

[spice flame]

Speaking of dream, it's 4:20 am, and I should be dreaming rn

[nocturne dust]

"Are you dreaming, or am I?"

[waxen jackal]

Nurgle doesn't sleep. Neither should you

[spice flame]

[clear heath]

wtf fatshark fixing bugs?

[delicate dove]

I do nawt associate wit NURGLES

[clear heath]

can they also fix the bug where hadron randomly just changes numbers while empowering?

cause that still happens

[nocturne dust]

That's exactly what a Heretic would say

[delicate dove]

hadron do a lil trolling

[waxen jackal]

It ruined my first force sword.

[spice flame]

Oops, all decimals

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/linus-tech-tips-ltt-bug-gif-19900847

[delicate dove]

Hadron fucking up your equipment out of spite or carelessness is canon

[waxen jackal]

I ended up with something being 63 and 77. Or something like that. I know it's not that big of difference. But the uneven numbers hurt me

[nocturne dust]

b-but she said I was her little good varlet

😭

[delicate dove]

harlot

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-fade-fade-away-disappear-evaporate-gif-16638726229780416323

[waxen jackal]

Hadron a 350+ year old cougar

[spice flame]

Worst she can say is no

[delicate dove]

wakes up as a servo skull

[spice flame]

Whoopsy

[nocturne dust]

So I get to become her favorite skull?

[waxen jackal]

Lol there's this guy in rogue trader that you can convince to servitorize himself

[spice flame]

Man

I should really try rogue trader eh

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/blm-gif-25815938

[waxen jackal]

Or wait, you have to convince him to not servitorize himself. He wants to

[spice flame]

Let him

[radiant ice]

Quick question again, is Lightning Storm worth it?

[nocturne dust]

oh

[waxen jackal]

It's fantastic

[nocturne dust]

dumb

[radiant ice]

Like does it make a noticable difference to a quick crowd stun?

[nocturne dust]

Let a man commit servitorization

[delicate dove]

does hadron get munched by a servo skull

[radiant ice]

I'm jealous of that servo skull

[spice flame]

What

[delicate dove]

"DO NOT LOSE MY SERVO SKULL!" 😠

[nocturne dust]

Clearly we have a Slaaneshi epidemic in this here chat that can only be fixed with the Emperor's cleansing flame

Plz stand by for decontamination

[spice flame]

Imagine being a servo skull.
One purpose
No thought
No sadness
And you fly

[nocturne dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1004447866250613048/1295449409160478781/chiquichico-ezgif.com-instagif.gif

[spice flame]

Ah
The dream.

[waxen jackal]

It's complicated. He learns that his job has been given to servitors on other planets. So he's all like "omg i need to servitorize myself to keep my job" and I'm like "nah"

[spice flame]

Lol

[nocturne dust]

Doesn't sound complicated

[waxen jackal]

This sounds pretty good

[waxen jackal]

Yeah once I typed it out it's pretty straightforward

[spice flame]

And skulls are cool

Tho I may be a bit biased.

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/concern-concern-meme-40k-tech-priest-commissar-gif-19826274

[potent echo]

It's been too long since the gif was posted

[radiant ice]

I mean skulls are different from full servitors right? They just use your skull not your brain and it's considered an honour I thought

[nocturne dust]

No, they're overused.

[radiant ice]

Where as being a servitor is hell and a punishment

[spice flame]

No you're overused

[nocturne dust]

Skulls are so gauche

[nocturne dust]

I am

give me a break plz

https://tenor.com/view/green-mile-im-tired-boss-michael-clarke-duncan-gif-2375696290766999196

[spice flame]

Never

[potent echo]

I think servoskulls don't have brains

[spice flame]

Me neither broher

[radiant ice]

What I thought yeah

[delicate dove]

Pretty sure they do, otherwise they wouldn't need to be a skull at all. Where's the deepest lore fanatics?

Fact check

[radiant ice]

The point of the skull is it being an honour

To keep serving after death

But being a servitor is an atonement thing

Please stop spoiling shit

[spice flame]

But there's like servitors that are being used just to open a singular door right ?

[radiant ice]

That's a servitor, not a servo skull

[nocturne dust]

aren't servitors punishments

[spice flame]

Oh

[radiant ice]

Different things

[spice flame]

Eh

[radiant ice]

Servo Skulls is an honour, your skull but not your brain is used

[nocturne dust]

[potent echo]

Servitors still have their brain intact usually

[radiant ice]

Servitor is your brain and body being used as an automatic door to make up for you being a bad boy in life

[spice flame]

Neat

[radiant ice]

Criminals aren't made into Servo Skulls however

[potent echo]

Servoskulls can't have brains in them because there's nothing else biological to sustain the brain

[delicate dove]

Your eternal job after you die. Doorman.

[radiant ice]

Point of servitor is that AI is considered the highest heresy

So they use a bio-I basically

[spice flame]

Eh, same as in real life then

[potent echo]

Kekw

[radiant ice]

Servo skull is like 'You've done such an honour to the imperium we will use your bones to serve forever' but they are dead and buried with their brain

[delicate dove]

NI? Natural intelligence? 🤔

[potent echo]

They use I

[radiant ice]

Regardless, being a servitor fitted with a diesel powered vibrating motor and kept by Hadron sounds worth

To loop back to above

[spice flame]

@waxen jackal Did you play, erhm what is it called, the 40k ARPG, Inquisitor? Martyr ?

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/azazel-warhammer-total-war-slaanesh-chaos-gif-26599403

The Slaaneshi daemons:

[waxen jackal]

Ive seen it but I haven't played it. I think they are still releasing seasons for it. I'm not sure tho

[delicate dove]

Vibrating you say?

Hadrussy

[lean mural]

if you're doing smite then yes it's worth it.

but i'm of the school of thought that believes if you're doing electro staff you don't need to be palpatine.

take BB instead + kinetic flayer so you pop heads when doing your regular flow plus you have something to hit bosses with that doesn't suck shit or require you to get near them with your tissue paper body

[spice flame]

They just released a new class, from what I've gathered

[waxen jackal]

Yeah I saw that. The heirophant. I've seen it on the store. I like ARPGs and I like Warhammer. So I might try it out

I still need to play mechanicus before the 2nd one comes out.

[spice flame]

I have the game for wtv reason

Never tried it

Ah yeah mechanicus is great

I have a friend working in the same office as the devs

[waxen jackal]

I've heard it's really good. And it's pretty cheap when it's on sale.

That's really cool

[radiant ice]

https://tenor.com/view/pacha-okay-great-meme-just-perfect-gif-13268829466700541863

[delicate dove]

11. 11 images. Sleep well knowing that.

[spice flame]

Noooooooooooooo

[delicate dove]

Kek

[lean mural]

only 11?

disappointing tbh

[delicate dove]

Only 11

[spice flame]

I do be curious tho.....

[radiant ice]

Definitely won't be sleeping

[spice flame]

But I won't

[radiant ice]

Arugment invalid

[delicate dove]

everybody checking rn

[spice flame]

Jesus

[nocturne dust]

I'm not that horny

which is a surprise, because I am that horny

[delicate dove]

I'm gay so I'm protected

[nocturne dust]

[spice flame]

Horny ? Heresy

[radiant ice]

I'm ace so... XD

[nocturne dust]

Arugulament invalid

[radiant ice]

It does nothing but amuse me XD

[lean mural]

kayex tho

[radiant ice]

No results!?

[lean mural]

he's even genuinely nice

though the whole "pre-servitors" thing is wack

[spice flame]

That's a slippery slope

[lean mural]

wdym that's not a slope that's a cliff

if there is no porn, you must create it

chop chop off you go

[delicate dove]

Gay senile robo daddy representation!

[spice flame]

Oh no.

[radiant ice]

Reminds me of a certain Archon

Of the not-steel variety

[lean mural]

i don't think he's so much senile as so autistic everyone else is living in his universe

[radiant ice]

He apologises for it at some point

And says it's because he's so old his memory is fading

[lean mural]

which is basically all tech-priests, so

[radiant ice]

He literally just has dementia

[lean mural]

lmao

[spice flame]

Love that line

[radiant ice]

Straight up admits it in game

[lean mural]

i thought it was that he knew pre-servitors didn't like being called that but he forgot because of the memory

he says he'll try to remember and then calls you pre-servitors the very next line lmao

but it's been a minute since i heard it

[radiant ice]

Same XD

[lean mural]

could be wrong

[spice flame]

"age made me forgetful. And forgetful age made me"

[radiant ice]

Kinda right, he says he just forgets a lot, and a lot he forgets

Yeah ^ XD

[lean mural]

that's henderson coded

[radiant ice]

He's extremely old even by tech priest standards

[lean mural]

"they say the memory is the first thing to go, followed by the memory"

[spice flame]

I would also love to see swagger being used in an other mission

[radiant ice]

Nah we need a third tech priest

In fact, can we just get sold to the Mechanicus?

SkitariiTide when?

[waxen jackal]

Swagger really lucked out in the name category

[spice flame]

What we need
Is a tech priest class, but it'll never happen

[radiant ice]

Tech Adept class!

[lean mural]

ányway. it's too fuckin late why am i awake

gn psyker siblings

[spice flame]

You tell me

[waxen jackal]

Tech priests are my favorite faction in 40k

[radiant ice]

Adeptus Mechanicus are amazing even beyond the tech priests

I love the Xenarites

Vanguard Skitarii are cool

[waxen jackal]

Yeah I just didn't know how to spell it lol

[radiant ice]

And who doesn't love the femboy legion/Skitarii rangers

[waxen jackal]

That's what I meant tho was the entire adeptus mechanicus

[radiant ice]

Ahh yeah

I love Stygies VIII

The Cult Mechanicus there and the Xenarites are both really cool

[waxen jackal]

Tech heretics are really cool too imo

Don't tell the Inquisitor I said that

[radiant ice]

All Dark Mechanicum are Hereteks but not all Hereteks are Dark Mechanicum 😛

Dark Mechanicum/True Mechanicum is technically the unbroken chain of the original Mars Mechanicus

After the Horus Heresy the Adeptus Mechanicus was a Loyalsit Insurrection on Mars devoted to the Imperium

[spice flame]

Alright

Maybe I'll try to catch some sleep now

[radiant ice]

Followed by their victory the Mechanicus merged their empire into the Imperium, and the Dark Mechanicum fled into the Eye of Terror

[spice flame]

See you space cowboys

[radiant ice]

Sleep well!

Hereteks are just any Mechanicus who betray the new Adeptus Mechanicus rules, not necessarily a Dark Mechanicum member

[onyx sentinel]

I wonder if the 2H force sword special has good enough cleave value to make it worth doing the animation versus just spamming left click

the gif they showed was against unarmored trash

[spice flame]

what gif

Okay byyye

[delicate dove]

I need slep too. Night night. Clear your browser history

[radiant ice]

I need sleep too, and nah I set that Hadron pic as my wallpaper

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/no-nope-no-way-noo-absolutely-not-gif-20244171

[radiant ice]

Why would I clear history when I need to refer back?

[delicate dove]

Chad coomer

[radiant ice]

[onyx sentinel]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/s/RjJRW3TrxK

[waxen jackal]

I also really enjoy the electropriests. The naming is perfect

[radiant ice]

Corpuscarii are cool af

[waxen jackal]

I will wave incense and pray to my computer and hope the history clears

[radiant ice]

Who needs Psykers when we can make our own Psykers

[onyx sentinel]

It’s already rarely worth to use the special on the illisi, I hope they don’t make the same mistake

[radiant ice]

Without all that warp nonsense even

They just need to carry a battery around

And gotta get themselves into an electric frenzy

Literally jump-start your tech priest

[nocturne dust]

"We have psykers at home"
The psykers:

https://tenor.com/view/mind-reading-shocked-reader-clearly-im-psychic-gif-17423721

[waxen jackal]

What book of the horus heresy is about the adeptus mechanicus

[radiant ice]

Nah they are more like this:

[nocturne dust]

[waxen jackal]

They making me want to forsake the weakness of flesh

[radiant ice]

Careful, they literally have circuits under all their flesh

And if you touch one while he’s excited, you get a lethal blast of volts

[wind spruce]

@radiant frigate guess what

[radiant frigate]

what am i guessing

[wind spruce]

7 days until force greatsword

[radiant frigate]

hell yeah

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/day-7-nnn-day-7-nnn-gif-1039051524723628693

[waxen jackal]

Damn POE 2 releases on the 6th. That means I won't have nearly as much time for darktide

I imagine every single psyker and zealot is going to be using the new weapons for at least a week after release

[radiant ice]

Yeah most likely

And Ogryn

Don’t forget the full auto .50 cal sniper

[waxen jackal]

That sounds practical.

Might be worth finishing leveling my ogryn

[frail harness]

As opposed to now, where melee weapon choice is so diverse in pubs

[radiant ice]

I hope we get the datamined hairstyles soon

[waxen jackal]

Fair point

[radiant ice]

4 new colours and a bunch of new haircuts

One being the sister of silence topknot

[wind spruce]

I played a pub game yesterday with two heavy sword and one devils claw psykers

[frail harness]

Did you buy a lottery ticket afterwards?

[waxen jackal]

I've seen a bunch of psykers using the chainsword

[nocturne dust]

Wdym, today I played with a mk4 dueling sword zealot, and mk5 dueling sword vet, and a mk2 dueling sword psyker

much variety, all different weapons

[waxen jackal]

That's at least 3 varieties

[frail harness]

The vet guide claims the chainsword doesn't have crit falloff on targets past the first. I've been meaning to try a crit build with pskyer because of this

[waxen jackal]

Plus the chainsword is cool af

[wind spruce]

This is true, and it's why the chainsword has been the best horde clear melee on psyker for a lonnnnng time

[waxen jackal]

Scriers voidstrike build with the chainsword would be cool

[barren pine]

which chainsword yall like for horde clear

[frail harness]

I had a buddy recently return to the game and I had to argue with him for like 15 minutes about blazing spirit Illisi. He wanted it to be good so badly.

[frail harness]

Stealing this

[waxen jackal]

I think it's the XIII is the good one. I can't remember I might have that wrong

[radiant frigate]

never knew the no falloff thing

[tired estuary]

they're both "fine" but I prefer 13 for lmb spam

13 also got a lot better on soyker with the attack speed node

[barren pine]

is wrath pointless then?

[radiant frigate]

that said i do not think it is a better choice than illisi

[wind spruce]

Yes

[wind spruce]

I agree. Kinda sucks ass vs single targets

[barren pine]

shred and rampage then?

[waxen jackal]

What is soyker?

[nocturne dust]

What blunts call Psyker out of jealousy

[frail harness]

A Psyker that drinks soylent

Maybe uses Reddit

[waxen jackal]

Soyjack psyker?

[frail harness]

My Beloved says he has drawn you, Wolfer, as the soyjack, and me as the Gigachad

[wind spruce]

For maximum horde clear, yeah

[waxen jackal]

Shit, I gotta go find some grass after thst

[wind spruce]

Bloodletter is good for killing bosses (and elites)

[unreal wasp]

I know it's literally been all day, but
I've already dressed for success

[nocturne dust]

but new Havoc drip

[unreal wasp]

Is there more armor than just the Moebian armor?

[nocturne dust]

idk

[frail harness]

Those new spider glasses are cool, but idk if they're $7 cool

[celest valve]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1h0f9h9/psykers_will_have_a_new_toy/

[unreal wasp]

Personally not a fan of the blue moebian armor as is, not because of the color but I don't like the shape

Don't think getting it in black will be much better

[nocturne dust]

Ew, reddit reposter

[unreal wasp]

Either way, full Psyker plate with funny greatsword

Now if only Psyker had a chad voice, guess I can larp as a Grail Knight with Seer though

[waxen jackal]

I wish they would show the zealot weapon.

[radiant frigate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/721520171365171284/1311019478313861191/caption.gif

[unreal wasp]

From what I understand, the Zealot sword is LITERALLY just a two-handed power sword but it has constant activation until it overheats

[nocturne dust]

You people are too hyped about this new weapon

[radiant frigate]

quite the contrary, you are not hyped enough

[waxen jackal]

That's what no content does to a mfer

[unreal wasp]

Personally hyped because I've wanted a two-handed force sword on Psyker for over a year

[nocturne dust]

Nonsense, a wizard is hyped as much as they need to be

[waxen jackal]

Yeah that's what I'm worried about. It's not gonna be any different

[unreal wasp]

I mean, it MIGHT do more damage the higher the heat is, Iunno

[nocturne dust]

Honestly, I would love that

[unreal wasp]

Don't know if they explained that

[nocturne dust]

Power sword constant charge spam icky

actual toggle tho

[waxen jackal]

I think they did say that.

[wind spruce]

This is offensive af

[waxen jackal]

That might have been talking about the psyker weapon tho. Where different levels of cleave

For different charge levels

[nocturne dust]

Tis just a blade, sibling

[unreal wasp]

Just happy I'll be able to fully realize Psy-Knight as a meleeker

Illisi was good but

[waxen jackal]

Ive never used the power sword. It's vet only isn't it?

[unreal wasp]

Ye

I personally hate it

As an Illisi user on Psyker

[waxen jackal]

Is it like the force sword?

[unreal wasp]

Two-handed sword with beam slash > just Illisi imo

[waxen jackal]

Like same special?

[unreal wasp]

BASICALLY

[radiant frigate]

yes except without the special power sword does nothing

[waxen jackal]

I'll look it up on YouTube

[radiant frigate]

and there is the mandatory blessing of power cycler so you get multiple empowered swings

[unreal wasp]

The only thing about the Power Sword is that the swing arc is smaller and you can't move around as much using heavies compared to using Illisi

And dodges are worse

[nocturne dust]

and charge is much more vital

[unreal wasp]

So I just don't use Power Sword on Vet and use DS4 instead

[nocturne dust]

and it's slower

[potent echo]

Powersword kills crushers in 2 hits

(with max slaughterer)

[nocturne dust]

slower in terms of swings, not damage

[tired estuary]

not even slaughterer, just like 1 or 2 melee nodes lol

[radiant frigate]

even without slaughterer

just pick up some melee buffs

[potent echo]

Depends on builds

[radiant frigate]

with slaughterer it gets to onetap territory

[potent echo]

I don't have +cara for instance

[waxen jackal]

Look what vets need to mimic a fraction of our power

[unreal wasp]

Wonder how much damage the cleave will do at each charge level on the force greatsword though

[radiant frigate]

power sword also very effectively murders bosses

the damage will be Yes

[potent echo]

Eh, the things they pick up also helps the rest of their kit

[nocturne dust]

Nothing?

[unreal wasp]

Like if the beam cleave will actually be able to oneshot poxwalkers at one charge

[potent echo]

So they effectively aren't sacrificing anything at all

[unreal wasp]

On Damnation I mean

[waxen jackal]

Lol

[potent echo]

Soyker gets PT, warp rider, fake agileengagement

[nocturne dust]

Force gs will be able to ranged oneshot poxwalkers (on sedition)

[potent echo]

So many buffs

It will get there somehow

Imagine if true aim wasn't nerfed lol

Wait would that attack consume true aim

[nocturne dust]

we don't know if true aim applies

and depending on how the charge levels work out and how much time they take to function, true aim unnerfed may not even be that strong

[potent echo]

If the cleave is truly infinite

You cant say that it is bad

[celest valve]

bruh have you seen that special attack

[unreal wasp]

Even if force gs range isn't GREAT but is decent, I still really like the idea of throwing beam attacks and using flame shriek at the same time

[potent echo]

Nah even if the weapon isn't meta I'm still using it for 1000 hours

[nocturne dust]

yes

[unreal wasp]

Also wonder if there'll be a blessing where the cleave can apply soulblaze

Don't know what blessings that thing'll get yet

[celest valve]

and now we wonder

is the cleave beam attack a heavy attack

[unreal wasp]

I mean, it seems like you can at least do it ON a heavy

Don't know if you HAVE to do a heavy to activate it

[celest valve]

yes but

smite electrocute on heavy attack

[analog agate]

It has been confirmed soul blaze blessing doesn’t work on it

[unreal wasp]

H e h... I wanted to use that augment on Illisi since I mostly use heavies but not taking Kinetic Flayer now seems like an L

[waxen jackal]

Steam autumn sale starts tomorrow

[restive slate]

Tried it thinking it was good, rather have KF BB or Shards

[unreal wasp]

Especially current KF where it won't activate on poxwalkers

M m m, soon this but two-handed

[celest valve]

i need to try smite again because apparently the release attack direction depends on the direction you're looking at when you release it

[unreal wasp]

Break the stereotype that Psyker is a squishy wizard, Psyker is a fucking chad with warp powers

[barren pine]

how yall feel about surge vs warp flurry on voidstrike?

[hazy moss]

surge is the way

why shoot one big ball when you can shoot 2 big balls

[young summit]

Have you considered Surge + Flurry

[radiant frigate]

pure caster 🤢
magically enhanced melee and ranged combat

reject evocation embrace bladesinging

[unreal wasp]

Biokinesis technically already exists

I use telekinesis, ON MYSELF

[nocturne dust]

This is a bad way

[radiant frigate]

what if zealot unknowingly does this

[nocturne dust]

Surge good

Flurry alright

[radiant frigate]

"see how faith moves a body" and whatnot

[nocturne dust]

Surge preferred

[young summit]

😈 then I am the worst

[barren pine]

thank ya

[unreal wasp]

I mean, we kind of already know that Zealot can technically already evoke faith psionics

[radiant frigate]

flurry transfer time

[unreal wasp]

With the funny relic at least

Zealot Warrior Priest when

Already carries around a big ass book (if you wear that cosmetic)

[radiant frigate]

can also carry a big ass bonk

if you pick thammer

or crusher

[unreal wasp]

That's Warrior Priest

Bonk and book

[radiant frigate]

big book big bonk

[unreal wasp]

Channel is the word I was looking for, not evoke, fuck

Hate when you know what word you want to use but can't get it out

[nocturne dust]

I still need to make unhinged nonsense with that

[potent echo]

Flurry transfer user vs weakest gazer

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-why-not-take-both-gif-11478682

[potent echo]

I'm offended

[nocturne dust]

Forgive me Emperor for the sin I'm about to commit 🙏

[celest valve]

more fun psyker stuff. did you know that the brain blast talent that triggers on combat ability use stacks

and that shield gets two charges

[nocturne dust]

It is known

still not great, but funny

[potent echo]

Psyker discovers fire circa 2024

It's a reason to play wall shields with EP brainburst

It's not bad

[nocturne dust]

Please let them buff brain burst with the Havoc Update 🙏

[lethal lagoon]

Who's going to tell him?

[nocturne dust]

You don't know crap

[lethal lagoon]

[potent echo]

How do you buff it

[celest valve]

make brain blast cast on every enemy in an AOE

[potent echo]

Speed can get really quick with buffs active

The bottleneck is your own aim

[celest valve]

imagine seeing a dozen enemies get brain blast charged on them simutaneously

[nocturne dust]

Improve base speed, make it less reliant on EP/KR, and/or increase the reliability of EP/KR through better duration/stacks on specialists

[potent echo]

Perhaps

[nocturne dust]

Very simple, very easy

[potent echo]

Base speed still feels horrible

[nocturne dust]

Yes

[river garden]

quick question is this normal

[nocturne dust]

yes

Fatshark can't count

[river garden]

[barren pine]

i thought i was the only one

[potent echo]

My cope is that they are gonna add something new

Where's my :copegyrn:

[vivid nimbus]

last achievement i need is to pull a chiaotzu

[potent echo]

Chiaotzuuuuuuu

[vivid nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/baghavad-gita-explosion-death-lots-of-damage-dnd-gif-9588631736637805057

[nocturne dust]

Overdosed.

[nocturne dust]

I wonder if crystalline will works with that penance

[tacit stump]

or maybe they add a new blessing next patch to ek staff

[potent echo]

Crystalline willy hehe

[nocturne dust]

[vivid nimbus]

doing this is hard when you teammates keep killing your target

[potent echo]

Yes

[tacit stump]

or they forgot a blessing...

[waxen jackal]

Omg. I got through a whole mission on m&k

The purg staff if perfect to get the hang of it.

[zinc phoenix]

I wish we could change weapon blessings/perks in the mission setup screen

It’s dumb that I have to have like three maxed out force swords for the combos I want

[polar crypt]

why did they write this talent this way

like you couldn't just type, 100% chance to gain Empowered Psionics on Elite Kills