#psyker-class

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narrow herald
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The only stat that matters is damage taken chadgryn

marble crater
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Need role, just talk more and it will get updated automatically

loud slate
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okay...

loud slate
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like, I had highest lesser enemies killed, highest boss dmg, highest actual dmg, then got lowest

patent mango
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longlas!

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maybe someday

narrow herald
loud slate
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794

patent mango
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only stat that matters is plasteel collected

loud slate
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😭

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lowest was 568

analog agate
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Oof. 793 is cut off for good player.

loud slate
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šŸ’€

narrow herald
narrow herald
analog agate
narrow herald
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It's ammo consumption

patent mango
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does ammo sell for plasteel

narrow herald
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No but orthos does

patent mango
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zamn!!

analog agate
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I always think I do well on ogryn. Don’t go down. Like, I took 800-1000 dmg. That class is a mystery to me

wispy oyster
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he eat bullet

analog agate
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Apparently

craggy crest
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and has significant self sustain

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along with the ability to tank a boss near permanently

wispy oyster
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ogryns have like x2 build in momentum blessing

craggy crest
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need to do some research... feels like they carry stuff faster

wispy oyster
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so perma toughness on heavy attack / chained

gritty gorge
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i'll hide behind an ogryn for a lot of the match if we have one, takes care of hordes while i BB anything i don't like the look of

mossy oyster
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real build

wispy oyster
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slab shield, bullrush, heavy hitter. you just bleed everything and never run out of toughness it is fun but ranged is your nemisis and odgryn dodge hhehe

haughty star
wispy oyster
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"sprint"

haughty star
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Its not really slower than the base speed of other chars

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Its just like driving a large pickup, feels slower cuz your pov is higher up

craggy crest
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i mean even when walking he doesn't seem to get that sluggish speed nerf while carrying a power cell

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looks like it..

haughty star
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What ever happened to the cells you gotta ram into the medic stations

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Is that something that only happens on low diff?

mossy oyster
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ive definitely seen that be a thing on damnation/aurics

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so no

craggy crest
radiant frigate
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cursed

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on multiple levels

mossy oyster
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thats gore of my comfort character(scriers gaze)

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not cool

radiant frigate
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going to scry myself to sleep after seeing this

craggy crest
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it's the build i found effective from experimenting

analog agate
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For what? As in, what weapons

radiant frigate
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surprised that you would find this effective

gritty gorge
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what is the intended... effect? like genuinely

craggy crest
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inferno staff procs flayer rather quickly, and it's built into horde clearing with illis, scryers, one with the warp, and peril related replenishment make it a powerful but risky melee build

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having the 3 charges of psionics frequently because of it to use on elites far away

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and saved for bosses

gritty gorge
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i take it the risk is the risk of blowing your own head open with high peril?

craggy crest
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peril is kind of a joke with how easy it is to manage

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as melee focus, it is unlikely to go above that 100% mark

jovial juniper
craggy crest
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having experience with unchained sienna in vermintide to compare it to

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and the force sword being able to vent peril

jovial juniper
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What's really popping Scrier's enjoyers around is the Unbound interaction

craggy crest
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but there are the bonuses for being high peril included

gritty gorge
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which is the unbound again?

craggy crest
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prevents warp explosions

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don't think i've ever actually detonated on accident

analog agate
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I disagree with most of your build. But, man, you are brave using scriers without warp unbound, haha

craggy crest
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unchained sienna would damage herself by venting overcharge above 33%, and half of damage recieved is converted to heat. but with a perk blocking reduces heat

mossy oyster
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😱

craggy crest
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in vermintide, notably harder

mossy oyster
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warp unbound is more so utilizing high peril buffs

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instead of a safety net to blow up

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imo

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(because as a safety net it still fucking blows with that bug around)

analog agate
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Using it with a staff is begging to blow up imo without unbound

mossy oyster
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I did voidstrike scriers

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pre unlocked n loaded

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it is not that hard or as scary

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as you may think

craggy crest
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i don't use staff while using scriers, though

wispy oyster
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is warp unbound fixed yet?

craggy crest
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or when it is active

wispy oyster
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cuz i still blow up at 100 peril 😦

analog agate
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Do you only use inferno for bosses then?

craggy crest
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only time i did blow was when doing that heresy challenge

wispy oyster
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and i think transfer peril bugs it aswell

analog agate
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Nm I saw your explanation

craggy crest
jovial juniper
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Scrier's Surge staff pre Unbound gigachad1

wispy oyster
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scrier was too scarey for me to even try without warp unbound

craggy crest
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not much to fear about scriers

wispy oyster
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i have trouble not blowing up at the best of times cuz of my hyper focusing on pew pew

craggy crest
wispy oyster
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noice

radiant frigate
wispy oyster
craggy crest
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the 12.5% chance grants charges much faster than trying to compete with teammates for close range elite kills

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from what i've seen so far

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horde weapons specifically since regular spawns are much more common during a boss fight

west flax
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i like it for being able to delete groups of gunners and such

minor wedge
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Hey, another quick question. is the "Mutated Horrors" gamemode gone for good now ?

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Or is there any way to get missions with that still ?

tight saddle
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What class do you all think has the best "support" build while still being able to solo clutch Aurics since it won't entirely rely on their team to kill stuff?

analog agate
loud slate
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how do psyker delete crushers?

analog agate
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Dueling sword iv with uncanny

loud slate
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what is does exactly?

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my blessing is shred+rampage rn

narrow herald
jovial juniper
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Uncanny is rending
Rending helps dealing with certain armor types

analog agate
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Put simply, it allows you to deal with armored targets better because of rending (armor penetration)

jovial juniper
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Riposte is so you can get more crits and use Dueling Sword high crit damage more often

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Precognition is for a sudden burst of damage

patent mango
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ig no wep blog today

radiant frigate
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to a lesser degree knife

mental grail
patent mango
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sword

stuck flower
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can damage be the dump stat on inferno?

cyan portal
stuck flower
analog agate
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Yes. But why when it is so easy to get a god roll with warp res as dump

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People were dumping dmg before the crafting rework.

stuck flower
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I find all other stats more useful since your main dmg are the stacks you apply

mental grail
marble crater
marble crater
radiant frigate
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especially on inferno

analog agate
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I can’t wait for KCD2. 1 is one of my favorite games

radiant frigate
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the thing barely builds peril to begin with

loud slate
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do I have to pair smite with shriek?

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or shield is alright as well

zinc phoenix
analog agate
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Perfect parries ftw. Yeah that was the name. Master stroke haha

zinc phoenix
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master stroke... master stroke... muh muh muh masterstroke

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also the camera having a goddamn heart attack every time you were fighting two or more people at the same time

analog agate
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They said they are fixing that in 2

radiant frigate
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if it is a back pocket pick, bring whatever

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that being said please do not become a smyker

zinc phoenix
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you'd be looking at one dude and then the camera is like "actually no you are looking through your own head"

zinc phoenix
marble crater
zinc phoenix
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they streamed a good chunk of kcd2 open

analog agate
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Henry will get a head injury. Bad at combat and can’t read 😐

marble crater
zinc phoenix
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henry is skyrim guard confirmed

stuck flower
analog agate
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99% of users here will say use shriek with smite

marble crater
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99% of users will also hurt themselves by saying that though

radiant frigate
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this user says "hypothetically speaking, if you want to use smite, i would recommend using it with shriek (but please don't)"

night garnet
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can someone, like, train me to be a good psyker

loud slate
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why not smite...

night garnet
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i like bb peepoSad

loud slate
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I feel overwhelmed with my assial+shield build

stuck flower
night garnet
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well, it's more like everyone dies

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but i'm in every team that dies

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peepoSad .

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hold on i should post my build

radiant frigate
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that would be a good starting point

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working with good tools always makes things easier

stuck flower
burnt gazelle
stuck flower
night garnet
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oh you can't post images FeelsBadMan

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peepoSad .

radiant frigate
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you can

haughty star
haughty star
night garnet
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maybe just not multiple images

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ok i try again PAUSERS

night garnet
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it worked pog

radiant frigate
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the build could use some work

loud slate
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whats wrong with some good cc?

night garnet
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what should i improve monkaHmm

stuck flower
stuck flower
radiant frigate
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empathic evasion is ok with inferno but with bubble it is overkill

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one or the other should probably go

night garnet
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NOTED .

radiant frigate
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if EE stays, pick up shriek and get the creeping flames modifier

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at that point you can also swap from psychic vampire to in fire reborn since you have a lot more soulblaze now

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also pick up perilous combustion in the top part

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battle meditation is bad

stuck flower
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maybe suggest a build?

nocturne dust
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suggest build

night garnet
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i'll try it pog

mental grail
mental grail
nocturne dust
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If you feel uncomfortable with the toughness gen and peril gen for Shriek, swap to Penetration of the Soul and away from Empyric Resolve

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if you need more toughness gen after losing Empyric Resolve, dump KF and grab soulstealer

night garnet
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NOTED .

burnt gazelle
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you can also play ep bb if you have trust issues re: your team taking care of specials/elites

night garnet
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this is with puba monkaHmm

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*pubs

burnt gazelle
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shriek has a very strong synergy with warp charges tho, so see how it plays

nocturne dust
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Also, if you weren't aware, Shriek at 85%+ peril to get max soulblaze stacks

burnt gazelle
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it kills all trash shooters + bruisers + horde

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and can be used to stack soulblaze beyond the staff's soulblaze application limit

night garnet
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but shield just made everything so much easier

burnt gazelle
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perilous combustion is a must take on purg

nocturne dust
burnt gazelle
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it accelerates soulblaze a lot into enemy patrols if you're playing on high difficulty

night garnet
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oh this is for auric

burnt gazelle
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you really want warp rider all the time

nocturne dust
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The build I gave you is for auric

night garnet
night garnet
nocturne dust
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Also, the staff should dump warp res and have Blaze Away, Warp Nexus, +flak, and either +crit chance or +maniac/unyielding

night garnet
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icic mhm

nocturne dust
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I use crit chance

patent mango
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what perks do i take for force gs

burnt gazelle
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remember that purgatus lmb spam staggerlocks ragers, and even intermittently staggers maulers in between their stagger resist kicking in. staggers specials etc too. (it also sets off flamer fuel tanks which can be dangerous for your allies lol). pushes bursters, but with KF pushing bursters with staff lmb can also be mildly unsafe if KF is off cooldown.

and purg in general staggers horde enemies and has massive suppression vs shooters. and procs EE constantly.

radiant frigate
patent mango
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its so jolly

radiant frigate
zinc phoenix
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sorry, i cannot lie

patent mango
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hopefully the 9 page weapon blog of force greatsword is soon

nocturne dust
radiant frigate
patent mango
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9 pages for force gs 1 line for the other 2

night garnet
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was my build bad peepoSad

radiant frigate
radiant frigate
night garnet
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peepoHands .

jovial juniper
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It will be extra funny when base psyker has more stamina with a two hander than a DS

patent mango
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funny

radiant ice
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Any Psyker guru’s that’d help refine my build?

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I’m liking it but finding it a bit on the squishy side

mossy oyster
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heres the trick

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we're always squishy

analog agate
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Yeah. Unless something is really wrong with your build Psykers are always fragile. To gain more ways for toughness/regen you will be forfeiting good dmg nodes

radiant ice
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I swap between a Voidstrike and Voidblast staff, either seem to work

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True, it is highly likely a skill issue xD

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Theory is I use staff majority of the time, sword as a bullet catch when needed, and drop a shield and spam brain burst for monstrosities

strong gulch
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Yeah, we're always squishy.

You can stack more toughness generation perks and what not, use KD, grab as many toughness nodes as you can. You can also try to get 200 hp with 1 sniper resist so you can tank a sniper shot and two bursters, but you are still gonna get caved in easily.

frail harness
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I've really been enjoying my Scrier's Tac Axe build recently

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Tac axe is a very defensive weapon, and very crit/finesse focused, so it works well with the glass cannon psyker nature

strong gulch
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Learning how to put distance between yourself and the enemy, where spawns are, and when to dodge or push helps A LOT.

radiant ice
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I have a Scriers knife build that’s pretty fun myself!

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Not managed to get a good axe roll yet though

frail harness
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Yup. Anything with good finesse scaling works quite well

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I need to try chain sword with shred next

radiant ice
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For some reason I find Damnation Auric normals easy enough, but the Storm wipes me out

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I only random matchmake though and do find it really hard to stay in coherency with more than 1 person xD

marble crater
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Just blame your teamchadgryn

radiant ice
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Yup just did!

analog agate
radiant ice
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Ah I actually removed them as I found no issue there

strong gulch
radiant ice
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It’s not like insta deaths, I should have clarified

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More like gradual chipping to me health wearing my down over 10 minutes

analog agate
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If you are having no problems with toughness regen then don’t take them on your curios

radiant ice
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Yeah, run 3 tough regens at first but removed them cause I felt it wasn’t making a big difference

analog agate
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Learning positioning. When to advance. When to take cover

radiant ice
radiant ice
strong gulch
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If you are in coherency and enemies are not engaging you with melee, then toughness gen on curios can do something for you. Otherwise you prob won't notice much.

radiant ice
strong gulch
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Otherwise try this. '

radiant ice
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Oh not at all

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I actually love.. yeah

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Venting xD

strong gulch
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You can edge voistrike too. You don't have to quell all of the way.

radiant ice
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Oh yeah I do

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Why assail? Locking out Psykinetic Aura for Assail without modifiers seems an odd choice

strong gulch
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You can cast at higher peril, quell to like 70 and keep that going.

patent mango
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rock

radiant ice
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And why the high peril cleave?

strong gulch
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Because edge and voidstrike can suck at scattered shooters or when you get surrounded.

radiant ice
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Ohhh

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Is Warp Splitting that much better than Ethereal Shards?

radiant frigate
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Yes

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it applies to all your attacks with cleave

radiant ice
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I don’t really use Assail

radiant ice
radiant frigate
radiant ice
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Wait it does?

radiant frigate
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so your voidstrike will be voidier and strikier

radiant ice
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Huh

radiant frigate
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Yes

strong gulch
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Always at high peril for the cleave (that helps your voidstrike and assail), proc nexus, bump warp rider, get TDR from one with the warp, and be ready for shreik at 85% peril for max soulblaze stacks from shriek (6 sb stacks).

radiant ice
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How about Seer’s Presence, it seems it only knocks 3 seconds off Venting

strong gulch
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Peril also increased the push from shriek

radiant ice
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It seems either other aura would be stronger

nocturne dust
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Warp Splitting Voidstrike pogryn

strong gulch
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The elite aura is dookie

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Pick your poison on the other 2, but seer's is gnerally bis

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especially for shriek

jovial juniper
nocturne dust
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Crit aura is good on a surgestrike

radiant ice
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Yeah I’ll try the crit one

strong gulch
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ye

radiant ice
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Does the staff not blow ya up rather quick without Empyric?

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I suppose, that’s what Shriek is for

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XD

nocturne dust
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Voidstrike generates 2nd least amount of peril behind Inferno

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combine with Shriek and it's mostly fine

strong gulch
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Ethereal shard only give +1 while warp splitting gives you more. Even at a small bit of peril you get +1.

radiant ice
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(Also sorry if I sound critical, I’m actually just throwing out all my uncertainties. I deeply appreciate all the help)

radiant ice
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Good to know

nocturne dust
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If you use Scrier's, I'd recommend making the cut to get ER but that does make talent points stretched thin

strong gulch
radiant ice
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Yeah

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I assumed since it said ā€œtargetsā€ it would be at least a little more

nocturne dust
radiant ice
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Okie I def see the value in Warp Splitting over it xD

strong gulch
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Don't trust the tooltips. 😭

radiant ice
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Oh Blast Radius is the dump?

nocturne dust
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si

radiant ice
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I have dumped Warp Resist to be fair xD

nocturne dust
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Only staff that doesn't dump warp res, lol

radiant ice
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Fuuuuuck

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It’s the only staff I don’t really use until today

nocturne dust
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Warp res dump is still very okay

radiant ice
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So used my logic from other staffs xD

nocturne dust
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Probably won't affect you too much

strong gulch
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WR is a dump on voidstrike, but the better one is generally blast radius. yeah

patent mango
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im so hungy for plasteel

radiant ice
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Not a worry, I have thousands of mats and a stupid amount of coins

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Will grab a new voidstrike

nocturne dust
radiant ice
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It’s just, I only got mine to 500 today, what a waste of diamantine xD

patent mango
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nuh uh

nocturne dust
patent mango
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i got pickaxe to mine plasteel

nocturne dust
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But you don't mine plasteel, you forge it

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So bring big flame to melt things

radiant ice
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Well fuck you too Brunt, 500k and not a single one with dump in blast radius

nocturne dust
patent mango
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atoma is weird plasteel ore is real

nocturne dust
radiant ice
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Yeah about 150k to 200k for me normally

patent mango
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the price isnt even that far off from old god roll stats

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gambling never left...

radiant ice
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So what’s the difference from 60 to 80 blast radius?

nocturne dust
radiant ice
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I never even really noticed the explosion doing much tbf

nocturne dust
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Price is certainly cheaper for perfect rolls.

patent mango
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ig so

nocturne dust
radiant ice
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Fired that onto a load out to try, looks fun

nocturne dust
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Hit the weakspot with voidstrike or stab em with a dueling sword

wooden ledge
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there's multiple right answers but one good approach is to use warp resistance as dump stat on psyker (staves and force swords), IF you are bringing the talents to gain toughness on peril generation and/or quelling. a more 'safe' approach is to split your dump stat across warp resistance and quell speed. and the most mathy answer is, damage stats become dump stats at whatever point they trip past their last reachable breakpoint.

radiant ice
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Ah right, I’m still in voidblast brain

nocturne dust
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It's a build that suffers against monsters, but a lot of psykers do

radiant ice
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Weak spot hits with the strike staff exist

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I do love my Voidblast, been my gem since the playtests xD

nocturne dust
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It won't be great damage but it will do something.

radiant frigate
nocturne dust
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Will be better than Voidblast, lol.

radiant frigate
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great for killing anything smaller than a boss though

radiant ice
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Yeah, that’s fair. So long as I can at least help out a bit

frail spear
nocturne dust
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You mainly want to keep ads off your allies

radiant ice
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Soloing bosses with Psyker is rarely fun outside gun/melee Scriers builds I find xD

nocturne dust
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rather than focus the boss

radiant ice
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Yeah makes sense

radiant frigate
radiant frigate
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caster builds bore me

nocturne dust
radiant frigate
radiant ice
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Ahh magic is my favourite thing in games, well second

nocturne dust
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I love staffker

radiant ice
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My favourite is healing magic/priest/mmo healing/overwatch Mercy etc

nocturne dust
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Staffker is my beloved

radiant frigate
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magic is cool if i can put magic into a sword and slap heretics with it

radiant ice
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But there isn’t a healer class unfortunately

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In Darktide

patent mango
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staffker would be so much better if it was a halberd class

nocturne dust
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Magic is cool if I can put magic into a ball and slap heretics with it

patent mango
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orb melee weapon

nocturne dust
radiant ice
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Book zealot with the corruption removal is as close as I got to a healer build xD

wooden ledge
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guns are bori- okay not boring but by far more common in gaming. bring on the spellsword gameplay

radiant ice
radiant ice
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Honestly I love Psyker, but if they add Admech I’m dropping it

nocturne dust
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Don't worry

radiant ice
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Yup, I know

nocturne dust
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We'll get new class in 3-5 business years

radiant ice
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Before you say, I know

patent mango
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entire admech budget spent on new weapons

radiant ice
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XD

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Wanna know a fun fact?

nocturne dust
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*note: business years only happen once every decade

radiant ice
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In the time between Darktide’s launch and today, there has been enough time for the entire development cycle of Left 4 Dead 2 twice over

patent mango
wintry niche
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I hate "light's out"

loud slate
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wow

nocturne dust
loud slate
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smite is so easy

nocturne dust
loud slate
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its like a brain massage

nocturne dust
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That's what makes it hated a lot

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It's too easy

patent mango
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eepy

radiant ice
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I love it from a Darth Sidious fantasy standpoint

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And using it looks cool af

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But it does get boring yeah

patent mango
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nearly got enough for update

marble crater
radiant ice
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Anyway, thanks all for the help I really appreciate it!

patent mango
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then im gonan be poor when it releases again

radiant ice
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Gonna try the new build and see if I can get a warp resist dump stat staff

nocturne dust
radiant ice
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Yes

patent mango
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and dismantled them

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lol

radiant ice
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Meant to say ā€œblast radius not warp resistanceā€

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But my brain died

radiant frigate
patent mango
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i'll buy 40k force greatswords its ok

radiant frigate
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acceptable

radiant ice
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Ok I get it

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This build is sick af

strong gulch
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What did you go with? Scrier's, bubble, or shriek?

nocturne dust
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Imagine having a build that could have all 3 pogryn

strong gulch
patent mango
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3 scriers gaze at once so you explode instantly

strong gulch
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Yell bubble and it crits

radiant ice
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So far 10/10

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Can’t thank enough for the help

radiant ice
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What's the thoughts on Soul Drinker?

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Considering I have Creeping Flames

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I would guess no, but would it be worth dropping the toughness node after Perilous Combustion for?

strong gulch
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Not really with it imo unless you always have a good bit of flames up.

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If it was on the other side of the tree, I'd grab it for some other builds.

radiant ice
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Yeah that’s always my struggle with it

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Would go nice on my inferno staff build… if everything else wasn’t on the left side xD

strong gulch
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RIGHT?

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MAD

radiant ice
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C’mon brunt

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Another 100k and every single staff has 80 in blast radius

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I swear ā€œbrā€ is the high gothic character for ā€œcā€

nocturne dust
wintry niche
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How much hp and toughness you have with that build?

radiant ice
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Unfortunately my Toughness curious are 16%, so I’m missing 3%

radiant ice
wintry niche
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3x toughness curio?

strong gulch
radiant ice
#

Hrmm I love Creeping Flames too much

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But I will give it a go!

nocturne dust
#

To note, I use +maniac/+crit chance and surge with that build

strong gulch
#

valid lol

radiant ice
#

Not really a fan of Scriers, unless it’s with a recon lasgun

wintry niche
#

I'm running crit chance and ranged crit dmg, idk if the 10%ranged crit dmg is worth it

indigo plank
#

Gazer my beloved

radiant ice
#

It’s a shame Warp Rupture is so bad

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The damage needs to scale off something

indigo plank
#

Scrier’s + Surge for peril edging simulator

radiant ice
#

The idea of slamming heretics into the floor hard enough to kill, yes please

nocturne dust
#

Just not enough scaling

radiant ice
#

Yeah but like, on top of that xD

#

It’s so pitiful xD

nocturne dust
#

Sure

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Nobody says Warp Rupture is good, lol

#

Definitely needs a buff

patent mango
#

plasteel eated

nocturne dust
#

Every ability on Psyker has a path that needs some tweaking

radiant ice
#

Yeah a shame cause I love the thematics more of slamming them into the floor so hard it kills a room

patent mango
#

charged strike stinks

radiant ice
#

Than setting them on fire, as cool as warp fire is

nocturne dust
#

Shield walls, Scrier's side nodes

radiant ice
#

I like the shield walls

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But mainly for laughing at various enemies going donk of them

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Not for actual end game use xD

patent mango
#

make shield walls have -30% cd built in

nocturne dust
#

and taller

patent mango
#

true

marsh badger
#

shield wall is amazing for end game use

patent mango
#

i wonder

marsh badger
#

waves of muties

nocturne dust
marsh badger
#

i mean if you havent seen it used well

nocturne dust
#

Bruh

patent mango
#

how much plasteel would i need to max 3 weapons with sacrifice, then max empower and transcendent 3

late sapphire
#

The issue is more that most well made psyker builds can kill an arbitrary number of onrushing specials

nocturne dust
#

Walls only help in corridors where specialists are easy to deal with

late sapphire
#

Instead of sticking down a wall you can just aim your gun or staff down the same corridor and blast away

nocturne dust
#

yeh

late sapphire
#

It is useful sometimes vs specials, particularly flamers trappers snipers bombers maybe

nocturne dust
#

Bombers can lob over it

late sapphire
#

But only if you're already in a clusterfuck

nocturne dust
#

and there's no reason to take wall over bubble in those cases

wintry niche
#

It doesn't measure up to the dome

late sapphire
#

Dome makes me fall asleep

nocturne dust
indigo plank
marsh badger
#

wall is for muties and bursters with the maelstrom modifiers

indigo plank
#

Slug puppies being unable to vomit in/out is GLORIOUS

late sapphire
nocturne dust
late sapphire
marsh badger
#

and with the wall you never have to

nocturne dust
#

No you still have to blow up the bursters

nocturne dust
#

so you can outrun the vet

radiant frigate
#

torch the bonbon

radiant frigate
patent mango
#

blackhole staff would be called voidvoid

thorn cedar
#

blackhole sun staff

nocturne dust
#

and I would love it

patent mango
lofty marsh
#

I want to scream

wind spruce
marsh badger
#

agree with book particularly but wall keeps it nice and tidy more often than not and you can drop it on a mutie mid smash to save people

tight saddle
#

Here's my daily prayer to The Emperor that the force gs has the same moveset as the Bretonnian Longsword.

radiant frigate
#

dev blog for force greatsword soon

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trust

patent mango
#

force greatsword will be real!!!!

#

im just buying 2 of them lol

#

to have both marks easier

nocturne dust
#

I will be buying 2+a number

#

RNGesus will decide the number

radiant frigate
patent mango
#

look under chrima three

#

40k force greatswords

strong gulch
#

I want 7 slightly different variations of the same weapon and only use 1 or 2 but also hunt for a dump stat that is well below 60.

late sapphire
#

I only have 300k dockets but i trust in the emperor šŸ™

errant pawn
#

So how do we get different weapon marks now that the shop has changed? Is splurging all your ordo dockets on one mark dead now?

strong gulch
#

do it for free

errant pawn
#

Wat. WHAT

#

WHAAAT

#

I have so many weapons I can dismantle

errant pawn
#

How did I miss that??

#

Holy shit

#

There are so many options now I can’t believe it

strong gulch
#

Idk. I miss shit like that all of the time. I'll go the wrong way but will notice an out of place bolt.

errant pawn
#

Thank you! This is gonna make levelling my weapon so much easier

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Also RIP I spent a whole bunch of dockets trying to get a different force sword lol

wind spruce
wind spruce
wind spruce
#

8 days to gooooo

radiant frigate
#

SOON

celest valve
#

if a certain mark wants different blessings

frail harness
#

Fire trauma and rending trauma for example

radiant frigate
#

rending fire trauma

pine relic
#

I just fked my whole team. I tried to grab some plasteel, but a reaper hiding in the high ground deleted my health bar. Everyone else died trying to revive me.

celest valve
#

skill issue :v

#

(carapace armored enemies are dangerous)

zinc phoenix
buoyant dust
#

blaze away and nexus still the best purgatus staff blessings, or is the brittleness /rending one worth it?

prime elk
#

blaze and the nexus are the best yeah

#

brittleness is ok too

late sapphire
#

Restart your game to get the update

analog agate
#

Was it the crafting rework patch they dropped early?

mossy oyster
#

ye

mellow pendant
#

what are some decent alterante weapons besides infantry auto and recon laser for gun psyker?

mossy oyster
#

double barrel and a agri revolver

verbal thistle
#

shredder auto if your maining melee

plucky flax
#

Bistol best

nocturne dust
nocturne dust
#

But I'd only pick Laspistol if you have FullAuto

mellow pendant
#

yeah my hands can't take semi auto weapons anymore lol

nocturne dust
#

I think the only other fully automatic is braced guns

#

which is worse infantry guns

tacit stump
#

and no one talks about shredder pistol

#

that thing belongs into the trash

nocturne dust
#

Shredder isn't fully automatic, it's fully trash

tacit stump
#

it is fully automatic trash

#

huh we have more seminatomatics than fully

nocturne dust
#

Yers

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By a lot

tacit stump
#

5 vs 3 excluding staffs and shotguns

nocturne dust
#

Full auto shotgun

#

AA-12 the heretics

tacit stump
#

staffs are sharge weapons and shottys are two shot reload or pump action

nocturne dust
#

sure, which means they count as semi-auto

tacit stump
#

i dislike shotguns

#

i throw them most often in their own pile cause they have most time different playstyle

nocturne dust
#

I like shotguns in other games, but you really need something to pick off specials in this game more often than not

#

'course, then you have absurd examples like the Ogryn sniper shotgun KEKW_ogryn

tacit stump
#

prepares for heavy stubber

tacit stump
brazen warren
#

so there is currently no reason to use charged smite for the electric heavy attacks yeah?

nocturne dust
#

Charged Strike?

#

Useless.

brazen warren
#

yeah that one

nocturne dust
#

Utterly, entirely useless.

brazen warren
#

sadge

#

cool idea though

nocturne dust
#

I cannot think of a single scenario where it would be useful.

#

I mean all it needs is a thing but it currently has nothing

brazen warren
#

2 point dip for 10% more damage on a hit woo!

nocturne dust
#

No stagger, no damage, nada

brazen warren
#

I wish I could ask the dev that green lit it why though

tacit stump
#

i would preffer soulblaze strike

nocturne dust
brazen warren
#

replace the effect of wild fire with heavy attacks apply 4 soulblaze, up to 12 stacks

nocturne dust
#

Except the enemies happen to be dead with those

brazen warren
#

and spread too

tacit stump
#

i like wildfire

#

fat mob clear

brazen warren
#

I dont dislike wildfire, I just think it could be even more powerful because thats fun

nocturne dust
#

No max stacks wildfire

tacit stump
#

i think they did the 4 stack limit on purpose

#

else we would turn everything to cinder

cyan portal
#

8?

tacit stump
#

nvm

nocturne dust
tacit stump
#

read psyker athaneum cause wildfire cause the effect text is not exact enough

cyan portal
#

msg i replied to got deleted

tacit stump
#

thought you could stack blaze depending per enemy died

nocturne dust
tacit stump
#

like when two died 8 stacks and so on

nocturne dust
#

Wildfire is always both better and worse than people think

tacit stump
#

makes accidental tzeentch corruption

cyan portal
#

it is worse than people expect but better than people understand

brazen warren
#

4 stacks is just low enough that it cant kill low tier trash unless you have damage bonuses rolling, and it spreads the 4 stacks evenly, so it just keeps the stack floor maintained instead of bursting everything with 4 stacks each

#

so for purgatus and venting its like, you can start at 4 stacks instead of 0

brazen warren
#

purgatus with a knife to sprint around like a cracked out god of fire is always a good time

glossy remnant
#

is it me or psyker penances are piss easy

tacit stump
#

worst one was warpbatterie

glossy remnant
#

the brainburst with max idk what stacks?

#

i think i did that one in 3 maps o.O

radiant ice
#

I did most of the original ones in launch week/as they came out. Some were really rough

#

Never bothered getting Mallus Monstro-yada yada until last week, cause it’s easy af now

#

Launch version was the worst thing

radiant ice
radiant ice
#

Oh… I need to drop that from my inferno staff build

nocturne dust
#

If the enemy killed has 4 sta-

nocturne dust
#

It's better than you think

radiant ice
#

It sounds awful, what makes it better? Sorry if already said and I’ve missed, just woke up xD

nocturne dust
#

I have to explain this dozens of times Sitgryn

tacit stump
#

yes

nocturne dust
#

Didn't I write a guide for this

#

Read the section on wildfire

radiant ice
#

Ah fantastic, thank you

#

I stopped playing, like most I think, a month or two after launch and recently returned

#

I feel like the tool tips/in game stats are as clear as mud

nocturne dust
#

Yep

#

and that's when the tooltips aren't straight-up wrong

#

@strong gulch so uh I tried and failed to do soulblaze elmo Sitgryn

#

Some attempts were made

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All of them I dislike

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First one doesn't have fire all over the place, second one has secret second pair of elmo arms I can't crop out, third one doesn't loop, fourth one doesn't feel fiery enough

#

Let it never be said that I'm not picky

tacit stump
#

what affect the max of 4

nocturne dust
#

Wdym?

#

Also here is slightly sped up v4, which is... okay.

tacit stump
#

wildfire max amount like when one dies max 4 stacks spreads around like 1/1/1/1 or 1/2/1

nocturne dust
#

It spreads to distribute evenly

tacit stump
#

depending on how manny enemies are around

nocturne dust
#

so if there's 3 enemies with no stacks, one will receive 2

wild pivot
#

Hey Psyker, I have a question. The Inferto staff, what should be dumpstats ? Is it damage ? What is "Burn Intensity" under damage when inspecting ? Thanks all

tacit stump
nocturne dust
nocturne dust
#

Dump warp res

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Burn Intensity is theorized to be time between direct damage ticks

#

but that's really hard to test

#

and no data miner has looked into it

wild pivot
radiant ice
wild pivot
radiant ice
#

Voidblast is also Warp Resist imo, Voidstrike is blast radius (thanks to the lovely peeps here for the tips there)

nocturne dust
#

It is surprising that a staff can have a stat worse than warp res, but Voidstrike be special

#

Also the only staff that has a strong build on both Scrier's and Shriek

#

Lol, I saw šŸ‘€

tacit stump
#

voidstrike has explosion?

nocturne dust
#

Yesn't

#

It has an explosion

#

It don't do stuff

#

It does low damage.

tacit stump
#

wtf waste a statt then put finesse into it instead

nocturne dust
#

šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø Voidstrike is fine. Unnerf mettle and true aim and it would be balling

tacit stump
#

hope we get a lobbing fireball staff

nocturne dust
#

which they should do

#

They should unnerf mettle and true aim

tacit stump
#

true aim was every 4?

nocturne dust
#

Obese Cartiliginous Fish, give me unnerfed mettle and true aim

nocturne dust
#

but mettle just broke on Inferno and Trauma so not even that is true, lol

tacit stump
#

how they nerfed mettle?

radiant ice
nocturne dust
#

They both had the same nerf

tacit stump
nocturne dust
#

True Aim you could voidstrike down a hallway and hit enough weakspots to get crits every attack

#

Mettle, a single crit would give you all the toughness on Trauma

nocturne dust
#

They also did similar stuff to Zealot.

tacit stump
nocturne dust
#

Unlocked and Loaded iirc

#

or around there

#

Yeah it's a talent change and not a fix

#

not sure when true aim was changed if it's not in the same patch tho, lol

atomic swan
#

iirc its before UnL

#

although i forget which patch

nocturne dust
#

Maybe it was in Secrets

#

loregryn Well, it's not true aim but... KEKW_ogryn

#

Also in reverse which is weird

#

Well, I give up. I think I've gone way too far back, lol.

tacit stump
#

...

nocturne dust
#

Probably missed the hotfix somewhere

tacit stump
#

yeah likely

summer prairie
#

it was UnL, probably just undocumented if you can't find it

nocturne dust
#

I mean I looked at the steam patch notes

#

which Strawhat complains about with good reason KEKW_ogryn

#

Might be detailed in the notes off steam

left basin
#

JUST GIVE ME MY GS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

tacit stump
#

no

summer prairie
#

I don't think it's in any of the notes because I remember pointing it out later when the actual patch was out

nocturne dust
tacit stump
#

was psyker really that broken

nocturne dust
#

no

tacit stump
#

why do they nerf psyker then

nocturne dust
#

I mean, they nerfed ogryn

tacit stump
#

is not like prenerf moonfire bow or javelin in vermintide 2

nocturne dust
#

In fact, only class that hasn't had a recent nerf is... vet I think? Which is funny because they've been the strongest for quite a bit KEKW_ogryn

tacit stump
#

they are so boring that they go under the radar for them

nocturne dust
#

I mean there were people that complained about the OPness of voidstrike, and mettle/true aim definitely was a part of that

tacit stump
#

...

nocturne dust
#

But at the same time, those people are generally zealot mains KEKW_ogryn

tacit stump
#

hmpf why plasma didn't got nerfed

nocturne dust
#

I mean they complain about that too

tacit stump
#

duell sword and dagger are next likely

nocturne dust
#

but plasma did get buffed lol

mental rock
#

plasma did kind of get nerfed when it didnt penetrate bulwark shields anymore but apparently that was a bug because it got reverted lol

patent jacinth
#

Plasma did not need that

nocturne dust
patent jacinth
#

It can already hit almost every important breakpoint while retaining a mag size half of its reserve and absolutely fucked cleave

tacit stump
#

dagger is okayisch in everything beside mobility

nocturne dust
#

Mmmmmm, because they get frustrated when ranged kills their targets before they can run up and stab em. And the class gets the most skilled try-harders, I think, because it's both the least boring and most powerful for clutching.

tacit stump
#

i play all four classes

nocturne dust
#

Just because a class is good at something doesn't mean it deserves a nerf

#

Psyker is currently best dps

#

They're also fragile as crap

#

Of course, many of those zealot mains I was talking about dislike that Psyker is best dps KEKW_ogryn

tacit stump
#

they are way tankier

nocturne dust
#

Yes, Zealot is the safest class

tacit stump
#

and have utility with their grenades

#

who gonna be annoyed most by ds nerf

nocturne dust
#

Like, every class is theoretically specialized and the best at something. Psyker is consistent DPS, Ogryn is really good at raw numbers, Vet has the best team stuff, and Zealot just does not die.

nocturne dust
#

DS will become an okay weapon for vet/zealot and that means bad things for Psyker

tacit stump
#

i use rather deimos on psyker cause hordeclear

nocturne dust
#

I mean, Deimos is a suitable backup, sure, but Vet still has psword and Zealot has plenty of choices

tacit stump
#

can we get force dagger and other toys for meele or do we get just even more range

#

and it wonders me that the staffs have no different marks

nocturne dust
#

I would rather they fix meleeker than just give us exclusive melee variants for every weapon, lol

tacit stump
#

but what should we sacrafice for meleeker

nocturne dust
#

I mean, meleeker lacks both speed and durability

tacit stump
#

skilltrees can't become bigger so well

nocturne dust
#

Give them speed

#

Keeps psyker with the squishy identity

nocturne dust
tacit stump
#

fear the future

#

become one with the warp

nocturne dust
#

Like, there are 3 separate speed buffs on the right side, and all of them are problematic

#

Scrier's buff isn't active during the lingering effect and isn't valuable enough being a node on its own

tacit stump
#

...

nocturne dust
#

DD's buff doesn't last as long as stacks do... for whatever reason

tacit stump
#

they should fix that this instant

nocturne dust
#

And mettle's movement speed duration is just too short

nocturne dust
tacit stump
#

why?

nocturne dust
#

šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

quartz barn
#

Hit and run mechanic

tacit stump
#

do we get from somewhere attack speed

nocturne dust
#

I want to run at the enemies, not away from them 😭

nocturne dust
quartz barn
#

But ye it doesnt synergize with how everyone interacts with dd

#

Or how dd even functions...

nocturne dust
#

It should give you the speed boost if you're moving towards a target, and then maintain the speed boost for the stack duration

quartz barn
#

My guess is that they didnt want us to have an infinite stat buff because balance

nocturne dust
#

Ah, yes, balance. What they did to autoshredder.

quartz barn
#

Ds on vet whatthefuck_heresy

tacit stump
#

ds on zealot...

quartz barn
#

Havent used it on zealot yet, but vet oneshots everything with the weakspot and ogryn bonusses

tacit stump
#

even crushers?

quartz barn
#

Glubby dies in 8 heavies i think?

tacit stump
#

glubby?

quartz barn
#

Bon

tacit stump
#

oh slug

quartz barn
sour nest
#

Schlüg

quartz barn
#

Crusher is 2 hits if you dont crit

nocturne dust
quartz barn
#

But uhh

#

I would get 60% crit on melee

compact cargo
quartz barn
#

90 on gun lmao

nocturne dust
#

Fair and balanced

quartz barn
#

Voc is an actual detriment of youre good too so i just used invis

tacit stump
#

?

quartz barn
#

Because stagger makes headshots harder

sour nest
#

You could just not use it

nocturne dust
#

Just be good at headshotting on stagger chadgryn

quartz barn
#

Invis for speed and minor stagger

nocturne dust
#

I never understood the logic

#

It's not that hard to track heads

quartz barn
#

Eh it got kinda scuffed when everything tumbled into eachother

tacit stump
#

what about exe stance

quartz barn
#

Basically the same as dealing with a mutant horde, its easier to stand still and onetap them as they rush you

#

Rather than dodging and having to hit heads from the side

nocturne dust
#

Well, yeah, it is easier. But it's a lot safer the other way and it's pretty easy to learn through it.

atomic swan
nocturne dust
#

also damage buffs are nice

marble crater
#

I hope there is a weapon dev blog today Prayge

pulsar hazel
steep estuary
#

Time for a break

spice flame
#

"now you can play the game"

steep estuary
wooden birch
#

So, I need some generic advice. I am a vet/zealot main .... but I want the stupid achievement of leveling all 4 classes.

I don't get Psyker. When I play it I can't seem to be able to make head pops nearly quick enough to get stuff done, and I don't get damage bonuses to my melee or rnged/

spice flame
#

what lvl are you rn

wooden birch
#

Like ... 3?

pulsar hazel
spice flame
#

cause psyker low lvl is very underwhelming

steep estuary
#

Have you leveled up to brain rupture instead of brain burst?

#

Yeah get some levels then the damage starts catching up

wooden birch
#

No. Not yet. I was hoping flamer staff would be fun, since I like the flamer.

spice flame
#

don't worry, you'll get it

#

psyker was the first class I played, and I dropped it for zealot really really quickly

quartz barn
#

Smh

spice flame
#

then I went back into it and I understood the power

#

smh your head

wooden birch
#

I was an eviscerator main when it was "crappy." Love that weapon. But shooting is great.

steep estuary
#

Funnily enough I started with, and stuck with Psyker. Cant really get into the other classes.

wooden birch
#

I always make my G look like your low end grunt, then it's commando time.

#

Is the flamethrower staff basically a flame thrower? I haven't been able to play with it.

spice flame
#

basically, except you have to charge it before releasing

marble crater
#

Yes, but better chadgryn

spice flame
#

and LBM has a crazy amount of stagger

#

so yeah, it's better

wooden birch
#

I always see people like ... spraying it, so you charge it, and then it releases a stream?

spice flame
#

Yes

wooden birch
#

Like a Lucius pattern rifle? Just you know, flame throwery?

spice flame
#

the Spray as you said is the LBM attack

#

it can stagger ragers for hours

marble crater
#

Primary fire is a small puff of flames that stagger, charge is flamethrower everything

spice flame
#

well, until they die

nocturne dust
#

except crushers

marble crater
#

That said, Assail blitz will be your best friend while you level psyker

nocturne dust
#

Inferno staff doesn't really work on crushers

spice flame
#

Sure

#

Deimos tho

#

bing bong

#

(and Ds yeah sure but Ds is boring)

marble crater
#

Force Greatsword though

wooden birch
#

Ok, so that's what ... 13 levels of meh? 8( Can't be worse than the combat shotgun grind.

steep estuary
#

Ive been saving mats to get that new sword leveled fast

quartz barn
#

Combat shotty is solid tho

wooden birch
#

I hate it. Don't know why.

steep estuary
#

Unless it uses the blaze sword mastery

quartz barn
#

But only because of the special single shot

marble crater
spice flame
#

I remember when I met my first assail psyker, I was like "wtf"

wooden birch
#

I want al my mechanicus skins, damnit. Been putting off the plasma gun and the revolver. Love the revolver, that's my final reward, but man. Combat shotguns and plsama guns. Blegh.

#

So what does assail do? I am not able to log in right now.

#

At work.

spice flame
#

you have 10 needles that you can throw

#

and they bounce between enemies

wooden birch
#

Ooooh, the knife thing!

spice flame
#

very strong for hordes

quartz barn
#

Spammable crystal shards with aim assist

wooden birch
#

I thought they were throwing knives.

spice flame
#

and right click is single target, more powerful throw

wooden birch
#

"Seek their eyes!"

spice flame
#

The sound of assail is perfection

#

very satisfiyng

#

shtk shtk shtk shtk shtk shtk

marble crater
#

Too bad it's on the right side instead of the middle

wooden birch
#

I like the fist motion of the head pops. Is there a way to mainly do head pops?

spice flame
#

yeah

wooden birch
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Feels very Khorne. In a Psyker kinda way.

spice flame
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uuuh well, head pops is more of a tool to reach enemies you can't with staff

marble crater
wooden birch
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Boo.

spice flame
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tho there is some way to empower head pops

marble crater
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But you can make a build for machine gun head pops whenever you use your combat ability

compact cargo
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Spark heads

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Good build for assail?

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I want to give third try to it

wooden birch
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Sounds like flamer it is for me then.

compact cargo
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now that it isn't stigma

spice flame
spice flame
wooden birch
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Oh wow, Empowered Psionics sound bomb.

compact cargo
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Staff, already got gun centric

compact cargo
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Gun issue is I enjoy speed too much and never use assail

spice flame
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Then I would recommend voidstrike and right keystone, cause precision damage

compact cargo
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What would I use assail for there? Voidstrike does sort of everything

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On cooldown extra damage?

spice flame
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hordes mostly

compact cargo
spice flame
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and replenish your toughness

marble crater
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Spread out shooters

nocturne dust
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Assail is for scattered shooters

compact cargo
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I will give try, thanks spark head

nocturne dust
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on Voidstrike

marble crater
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Also for style points

spice flame
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There's probably better builds out there but I think that's the idea, can't log rn to see my build so I just made that one just now

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empathic evasion is probably not necessary, but useful

marble crater
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I would also take Quietude, to have a way to gain toughness without needing to hit or kill enemies

nocturne dust
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What weapons is that build for

spice flame
nocturne dust
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I would do this

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EE is whatever, you can easily swap it for quick shards or something

spice flame
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I hesitated on the aura

nocturne dust
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Voidstrike wants surge

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Surge doubles value of crits in big groups

spice flame
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Hmm, yeah

nocturne dust
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and on auric, everyone is in a big group

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I would go for the cooldown if you take flurry instead of surge, which isn't a bad choice

marble crater
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Everyone except that one poxwalker that slaps you for 30% HP from behind

spice flame
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tho, I would take off EE and put the point on solidity

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And cruel fortune is a bit overkill imo