psyker-class

[broken carbon]

mk3 wants either rampage and savage sweep

[nocturne dust]

I use the xv

[broken carbon]

or shred and perfect strike

[broken carbon]

mk15 wants shred rampage, or bloodthirsty rampage

with flak/unyielding/carapace/maniac

carapace lets you one shot a crusher on a crit rev

it’s been so hot down here

euuuuugh

florida fills me with despair

[nocturne dust]

Okay so

I used vraks

and it's just one number until I crit, then it's a bunch of numbers, probably one for each of the string

[timid grove]

is the dump stat on staves Quell Speed? i figure we have enough as it is, yea?

[nocturne dust]

no

[timid grove]

[mossy oyster]

yeah it does not get cold until literally the end of nov/start of dec in florida

[nocturne dust]

Dump warp res except on voidstrike which dumps blast radius

[mossy oyster]

quite ass

over here it at least can be cold in/by october

[broken carbon]

yeah probably

fatshark moment

euuugh

[nocturne dust]

Yeah when I use braced agrippina it's 2 extra numbers from a crit

[broken carbon]

it used to get cool earlier

but

for some unknown reason

(climate change)

it takes so fucking long

to get even slightly cool

[nocturne dust]

So in conclusion we've learned nothing

[broken carbon]

yah

[broken carbon]

LOL

kinda

kill times on a reaper is is the same though

low and high damage

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, it's a very small change

[broken carbon]

sooo

[steel flame]

does brittleness have a global cap of 40%?

[nocturne dust]

Uhm

I think I've seen my PF staff stack with 40% to 60%

so no

but probably good to test to confirm

[broken carbon]

it’d be easy to test

thunderous

and

uhhh

what’s it called

shattering impact

[steel flame]

mmmm i think debuff indicator can only draw from one source of brittle at a time

[nocturne dust]

debuff indicator is the one I used to see it go to 60%

[steel flame]

doesnt know how how to count armor bane and onslaught at the same time

[summer prairie]

PF rending debuff is separate

[nocturne dust]

but why

[summer prairie]

so it stacks or just for fun

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/why-huh-but-why-gif-13199396

[summer prairie]

I haven't looked at rending much but the other debuff seemed to have a 40% cap

[nocturne dust]

Fatshark trying to be consistent for two updates (impossible)

[buoyant maple]

chain weapons' rip dmg is shown as multiple numbers even though it's considered by the game as 1 single attack instance

[broken carbon]

according to void its one number

[buoyant maple]

multiple ranged attack instances will add up to show 1 number (unless crits are involved)

in meat grinder

[buoyant maple]

Lemme check

[buoyant maple]

ok yea evicerator is 1 number

[torn palm]

Can you change the mark of weapons that are level 1 mastery?

[buoyant maple]

chainaxe is also 1 number

[buoyant maple]

no, needs higher mastery

[timid grove]

i have a couple of blaze sword questions

is it supposed to run out of stam like instantly while sprinting? and when should i use the activated attacks

oh and activated heavy or light

[buoyant maple]

sprint & slide to conserve stamina
psyker has very fast stamina regen delay that u can basically sprint & slide forever and not run out

activated attacks depend heavily on which variant you're using
for illisi, u can use it for mixed hordes or more dense hordes since it normally doesn't actually kill hordes that fast
for deimos & obscurus, it's basically not useful

for activated attacks on illisi, try to use heavy if u can, but light comes out faster if u need it

[indigo plank]

For Illisi I personally just use one charge to get a good first swing into a group, then just mash lights. Lightning speed + scriers gaze + the finesse node turn it into a weed whacker if I ever need to chill on peril gen

I threw exorcist on it out of curiosity and if the horde is just all pox trash, it can quell enough peril to offset scriers buildup completely

[nocturne dust]

You can actually regenerate your stam as Psyker if you slide precisely enough, but only at like 1% per and it's very annoying to be that consistent

[indigo plank]

Sometimes I forget I have it until suddenly WOOSH! BOOM! 100%

But by that point I’m at like 20+ stacks which is noice

Warp unbound just lets me go a lil ham for 10s

[jovial juniper]

Illisi special light deals like 100 or so less damage than the special heavy

But damn the H1 angle is good

[timid grove]

the only variant ive tried so far is deimos mk4, it seems okay

as a whole, i mean

[buoyant maple]

Deimos is very single target orientated

[timid grove]

yeah i can tell

horde seems weak but not terrible. i feel like super dense horde can be remedied with other parts of build

e.g. secondary or zap

[haughty star]

bruhhhhhhh

[timid grove]

i still don't know what each staff does or which one i even like

[haughty star]

i really hope that CIG don't fuck up the new 2h

[haughty star]

voidstrike is infinite ammo plasma

surge is easiest and objectively strongest all around

best at killing specialists and elites

voidblast is kind of a all rounder? i guess.. i don't really like blazing trauma.

and inferno is flamethrower on gigacrack

[azure parcel]

Finally got a decent electro staff and tested it a bit in the psykhanium

I understand the hype now

Insane damage, rapid charge

[haughty star]

yeah it's iight

the charge is it's real strong point. the damage is kinda meh imo

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/star-trek-star-trek-tos-apollo-zap-shock-gif-18131306

[haughty star]

just multiply this by like five if it's anything tougher than a rager

[waxen jackal]

Doesn't demios have a heavy attack stab? I can't remember the combo. Or maybe I'm just remembering the attack wrong

[nocturne dust]

h2

[haughty star]

yeah you can chain in with l1h2

[nocturne dust]

the best attack on Deimos is h2, which is the heavy stab

[waxen jackal]

That's more like a hack downwards. I think I'm just remembering it wrong

[buoyant maple]

The damage is kinda meh unless u crit

[nocturne dust]

no?

[haughty star]

no?

[nocturne dust]

It's literally a stab

[haughty star]

yeah like straight out bro

[nocturne dust]

You may be thinking of h1

[waxen jackal]

Oh yeah. My bad

[nocturne dust]

which is a weird slash

[waxen jackal]

That's what I'm thinking of.

I get the h1 and h2 thing messed up.

[waxen jackal]

This is the combo I was thinking of

[azure parcel]

I had a ninja Crusher bonk me into the water table tonight

Zero sound cues

Just a BONK from behind while I'm purging and I'm downed

Very cool fatshark

[waxen jackal]

Those giant metal covered ogryns can be sneaky

[haughty star]

yeah most just whiff the l1 quick to chain into it

[waxen jackal]

For some reason I thought there was just a heavy stab without having to chain anything. Idk its been awhile since I've used anything besides ds

[potent echo]

Force greatsword

Please give it Bretsword moveset

[haughty star]

i'm kinda hoping for evis

[wind spruce]

Recon las gun, heavy sword, brain burst, scriers & disrupt destiny

But tbh I could pull those numbers with any build

[jovial juniper]

Nuh uh Sargent Sword

Or something like that

I don't really remember the names

[wind spruce]

Does weakspot damage effect brainburst? It should, right?

[potent echo]

I think it does..?

[jovial juniper]

It does

[wind spruce]

Ty

[jovial juniper]

I was trying the Scrier's Finesse node and it added like 200-400 extra Cara EP damage

[wind spruce]

I wonder how much I'm BBing monstrosities for at 100% peril, full DD stacks and some scriers stacks on top

My weakspot rate here is 13%... and that's with me doing a shitload of BBs to kill monstrosities

Is true aim even worth it at that level lol

[haughty star]

i just want the sword to come out so we can argue about that

[ornate hamlet]

Was cosmetics this week or last week?

[jovial juniper]

Well BB can't crit and I don't know if it still gives you 2 stacks of True Aim

[potent echo]

Sword sword sword

[wind spruce]

I think they fixed that but I'm not sure. I only mention the BBs because it pads out the weakspot rate, but yeah it does help true aim a little

[nocturne dust]

it's only 1 now iirc, they mentioned that in a patch

[wind spruce]

Seriously someone weigh in on this true aim thing. How much is it actually contributing at ~13% weakspot rate?!

[nocturne dust]

2.6% crit rate from true aim, assuming you never crit otherwise

and every weakspot hit contributed to true aim

[wind spruce]

Like let's assume 10% weakspot rate and ignore that BB contributes stacks for simplicities sake.

Every 50 shots I get one extra crit. That shot has a 17.5% or 37.5% (depending on whether scriers is active) to have been a crit anyway

So even less than that @nocturne dust

[nocturne dust]

yes

The more crit you have, the worse true aim gets

[wind spruce]

Although there's an extra layer of complexity because how many shots am I completely missing, because the scoreboard counts that as missing the weakspot, presumably.

[nocturne dust]

This may be true? I don't track hit rates on my scoreboard, lol.

So I dunno how scoreboard keeps track of stuff like that

Should be simple to test though

hit exactly one weakspot shot before spamming into the air and then jump off a bridge in a bot game

[wind spruce]

Or just get the mod that makes scoreboard active in psykhanium

[nocturne dust]

There's a mod that does that?

[wind spruce]

Yeah contracts overlay used to do it as a side effect

[haughty star]

modders

[wind spruce]

Dunno if that mod still works

[haughty star]

strange

[cyan portal]

power DI tracks in psykhanium

[haughty star]

i still kinda want the specialist radar for ogryn tho just from the pure amount of times i've been trapped through a horde by a trapper completely silent and buried under ads

[wind spruce]

Aight I'm definitely dropping true aim from my recon BB build 💀

Because my highest weakspot rate is presumably against monstrosities, and against those I'm just maintaining burn and BBing. My weakspot rate against other enemies is presumably even lower than my overall rate, meaning its effectively like 1% crit or so

Having such bad aim that you get an extra talent point

[pine relic]

I don't know how did he kill so many with a surge staff

[barren pine]

i need one more maelstom with no death whats the easiest ones?

right now its I-E on clandestium

[tacit stump]

did you see blue flames like blue burnung enemies?

[cyan portal]

maybe if you had overproof the scoreboard would have more useful information to make it make sense

[pine relic]

I only saw him using a surge staff.

Primary attacks and secondary attacks, I assume he was also using Scriber's Gaze.

[pine relic]

nope

[brazen rampart]

Surge staff and 700k damage seems pretty normal.

Would need to see the rest of the board though.

[potent echo]

Surge staff actually has alot of uptime because you don't need to aim

[indigo plank]

https://tenor.com/view/playing-piano-kyle-landry-kyle-landry-piano-music-musician-gif-18401140

POV: Staff psyker gameplay

Direction+CTRL+Space+R

Mouse 5 + Mouse 2 + Mouse 1

[restive slate]

Has DD been nerfed for Psyker? Feels like it's been nerfed

[tacit stump]

dd?

[restive slate]

The Destiny keystone on the far right

[strong gulch]

As far as I know, it was buffed when we got Lingering Influence and stacks dropped off one at a time instead of all at once. I haven't heard of any nerfs.

True aim and mettle were nerfed tho. IDK if either of those are making it feel like DD is nerfed.

[wind spruce]

Their damage would also have been inflated because of the damage calculation error. Base scoreboard mod is distinctly not based and accuracypilled

[wind spruce]

It's never been nerfed

[strong gulch]

The closest I can think of is the duration of a stack was shortened when we got LI and drop off one by one, but we got so much more in return.

[unkempt knoll]

ive been putting this off cuz i hated the overcharge in vermtide 2 on sienna so this will be fun

[restive slate]

Ok that makes sense thanks

[tacit stump]

quelling does not damage you

so it is better here

and gunker could be interesting to you

was sienna second after shade but i got rarely to play her with friends, kerillian is well likes

[vivid nimbus]

does brain rupture count as brain burst for the sake of achievements or is this gonna be a pain to do

[nocturne dust]

They are the same, yes

[vivid nimbus]

for achievements too right because the achievement says burst not rupture so i wasnt sure

[nocturne dust]

Yes

[vivid nimbus]

ok ill save that for when im 30 then because i dont think i can do it alone and it says it has to be a private game

[tacit stump]

malleus monstronum, you gonna need a second player best a bullgryn

[rigid sky]

It's pretty easy to get if you can just get a private game going

[vivid nimbus]

i think the hard one will be the perils of the warp

[rigid sky]

50% of damage is way easier than the 90% it used to be, and you can make brain burst a lot spicier than it used to be

[rigid sky]

if it's the same one I think it is, it used to need you to kill 3 with 1 perils explosion

that was actually a nightmare

[vivid nimbus]

its one elite

ill do the achievement hunting once i get to 30 then ill find a group of ogryns to be meat shields while i whittle a way a monsterosity

[tacit stump]

one is enough and learn dodging

[vivid nimbus]

i dodge like gohan

https://tenor.com/view/piccolo-dbz-atfuraxx-gif-14120574

[potent echo]

Whydidntyoudodge

[tacit stump]

spacing?

[potent echo]

It's a reference

[junior glacier]

I just hold block and pray

[ionic frost]

there's a better way

[junior glacier]

Nono its ok. I got deflector :o)

[ionic frost]

if only we could reflect bullets with it with perfect aim...

reduced dmg ofc

could be too OP

...would be

[junior glacier]

Every psyker would walk forward m1'ing

[ionic frost]

well thats what i've been doing right now at times =D

deflector is fun, but so are other melee weapons

[junior glacier]

I am having a hard time picking one to stick with on my gunker

I like the ilisi but armor makes me sad

[ionic frost]

dueling sword with fast autogun

[junior glacier]

I have used the dueling sword so much

[tacit stump]

deimos

[ionic frost]

bb if u want more dps on targets, assail if u want more ammo econemy

[junior glacier]

Deimos is fun too it reminds me of vt2 rapier

[ionic frost]

it's good movespeed, dodges, and single target dmgt

and alright horde clear

uncanny helps with that

[uncut sinew]

try with devils claw

is funny

[junior glacier]

I like the axe too. But i dont know if it synergizes well with that talent that adds cleave with peril

[junior glacier]

I looovee devils claw but i am bad at parrying ;-;

[uncut sinew]

then this is your time to learn sibling

[ionic frost]

devils claw gunker would have to have BB, but that sounds fun with autogun =D

[junior glacier]

Crusher overheads scare me and my tiny body

[unkempt knoll]

grey beard

[junior glacier]

Ive been switching between the vraks and mkii heavy laspistol. The vraks feels better but the swag of the pistol is undeniablw

[ionic frost]

<3 psyker pistol push

[junior glacier]

Pushing a burster from several meters away is so funny

[ionic frost]

i wonder if they'll do a full special attack rework at some point

at least for some weapons...

[tacit stump]

i hope for the force swords aswell

[quartz barn]

Force swords are fine?

Only outlier is obscurus i guess, but thats because the base weapon is bad

[nocturne dust]

I mean Obscurus and Deimos specials suck a lot

A special attack rework would make sense on them

[spice veldt]

only thing the obscurus needs is a bump on the uppercut
is good

[unkempt knoll]

imma main knife on psyker

idk why

[celest spear]

Hello sparkheads, I'm returning to psyker after like, a year. What would y'all recommend for a crit build at the moment?

[nocturne dust]

And I personally dislike Illisi's special. It's not bad effectiveness-wise, but it disturbs my sensibilities.

[nocturne dust]

Gunker with Vraks Infantry Auto

You could also go Scrier's Voidstrike

[junior glacier]

Scriers voidstrike so fun

[celest spear]

You know, that's the one psyker ability I've never even tried before

will def give it a shot

[junior glacier]

I didnt use scriers for a while but now its hard to go back to venting shriek

[radiant frigate]

force greatsword in 12 days siblings can you believe it

[celest spear]

I'm hyped

the force cleave special attack makes me think of the moonlight greatsword from dark souls

[tacit stump]

chain weapon ripper attack suck aswell but you could just shange by them how the damage is done

[tacit stump]

maybe directly with skins

two days after

[radiant frigate]

psyker becomes playable again

zealot too

[tacit stump]

ogryn

[quartz barn]

2h forcesword skins on day 1 if you use mods

[tacit stump]

i don't plaster weapons freely willi together

[unkempt knoll]

why not a force scythe

[tacit stump]

a axe or spear would be better

[unkempt knoll]

i want spear on zealot

[nocturne dust]

Why not both?

Force halberd

[unkempt knoll]

i have no idea what im doin but i wanna throw those shiney blue rocks and use the knife

[tacit stump]

we need more then one special button then

[unkempt knoll]

force hammer

causin shockwaves

[sour nest]

Shiny blue rocks are fun

[unkempt knoll]

That's how I get my powers

I sometimes smoke em too! Got em from some trader called "Heisenberg"

[arctic sorrel]

hi guys any inferno build?

[fiery stratus]

This is a certified hood classic. Having to solo plague ogryn at level 12 with a butterknife version of ds4

[jovial juniper]

You could get ER instead of pots if you want to

[arctic sorrel]

er?

[arctic sorrel]

thanks for build

[nocturne dust]

No perfect timing?

[nocturne dust]

Empyric Resolve

[arctic sorrel]

oh thanks

[jovial juniper]

Dropping KD or the 6 stacks then you have enough points for that

Warp Syphon still eating points 😭

[nocturne dust]

Dropping KD is heretical

[urban flint]

Is the void blast staff and trauma staff the same 🧍‍♂️

[nocturne dust]

Trauma was renamed to voidblast, yes

Not to be confused with Voidstrike

Thanks Fatshark

[urban flint]

It’s my first time playing and I was told to do truama staff soul fire build -? Some said it’s the best rn?

[nocturne dust]

Trauma soulfire is the best trauma build, yeah

[urban flint]

Is there a - best in general build

[nocturne dust]

Wdym?

The most meta build for Psyker currently is probably EK staff with shriek spam.

Trauma is safer than that though, and Inferno is dead-easy to play.

Every staff is plenty strong regardless.

[urban flint]

Mm I see

Thank you!

[rigid sky]

Not a fan of Empyric Resolve on Shriek builds tbh though

You don't want to make it too hard to gain peril for the big spicy shrieks

[nocturne dust]

Sure, but you should have zero trouble shrieking off cooldown with Empyric Resolve

at max perils

[rigid sky]

I prefer not taking it to increase peril flux in general, I tend to not have problem making space to get a little bit of manual quelling in if I need to

[nocturne dust]

Unless you use Inferno

[rigid sky]

and the toughness penalty scares me lol

Yeah I meant inferno

since @jovial juniper was talking about an inferno build

[nocturne dust]

You can ease into it a lot with curio perks

Toughness regen speed is a good subperk to handle ER since coherency regen isn't affected

[rigid sky]

I like to toughnessmax my psyker anyway

[nocturne dust]

You actually don't want to toughness max

You want toughness regen speed, not toughness itself because Coherency doesn't scale

I generally only take a single toughness curio

Two on trauma because shooters are the real threat with that staff

[potent echo]

wut

[marble crater]

I thought we all agreed that toughness regen was largely meh, did they change it?

[nocturne dust]

That was never agreed.

[quartz barn]

It was

[fiery stratus]

Welp, lots of the cosmetics are recycled as expected. At least theres a few decent pieces lol.

[quartz barn]

But its use highly depends on your skill

[nocturne dust]

There are two class guides that disagree

[fiery stratus]

Damn

Some of these skins are pretty nice, hitting hard with the fomo. Makes me wonder how hard they're gonna push it on the update

[marble crater]

They are nice, not 12€ nice though

[jovial juniper]

Even Pygex took it from garbage tier and put it on C

[fiery stratus]

Thats why I said fomo

[marble crater]

Out of how many tiers?

[fiery stratus]

The irony is if they'd just fill the shop with high quality cosmetics and left them there, they'd make more money.

But the scummy practices turns people off

[nocturne dust]

Pygex has it as S

soooooo

iirc the Ogrynomicon also rates it highly

and this goes at least 8 months back if I'm not mistaken

[marble crater]

I do use it on Ogryn to be fair

[fiery stratus]

The psykers outfit kinda looks dookie

[nocturne dust]

Sadly, this isn't true

I'm sure they have the numbers and know what is profitable

[fiery stratus]

Sure you're always gonna have people buying. But there would be more volume.

[silent wigeon]

aren't they own by tencent?

[fiery stratus]

People would still complain about the prices of course

[nocturne dust]

FOMO is a powerful drug

[silent wigeon]

but it's not actual fomo

so it doesn't have the full effect.

[fiery stratus]

It is for some people

[nocturne dust]

Tell that to the type of person weak to FOMO

[fiery stratus]

They rotate some sets like once every 6 months

so they just artificially create scarcity

Shovel skin is nice, but its only for the standard issue

[nocturne dust]

Rarely is anything truly 'gone gone' in games, but it's still a FOMO tactic and it still works

kinda sad, but people gonna people

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/russell-westbrook-nba-okc-thunder-what-huh-gif-5070054

[fiery stratus]

You know someones gonna buy that shovel skin thinking it works for all of them.

[tacit stump]

really you can't use it on thr foldable ones

crappy design

[nocturne dust]

It's. Not. That. Bad.

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/ebspark-eb-spark-eb-spark-ego-gif-11106624287947924041

[nocturne dust]

ahem

SHOT THROUGH THE HEART

[tacit stump]

it looked to me like a foldable one

[nocturne dust]

AND YOU'RE TO BLAME

Anyway, toughness regen speed is surprisingly good, and the best part about it is it lets you not murder your finger sliding all over the place

I need to rebind slide or something

but I tried that previously and even after a couple days I just couldn't vault properly

[fiery stratus]

Ya know, now that I think about it.

Can we get a SINGLE psyker torso piece without a collar?

I get they need it, but they look like shit.

[marble crater]

No can do, the imperium doesn't have the technology

[fiery stratus]

Fatshark doesn't have the approval from GamesTurdShop

Gotta keep all the greed internalized

[patent steeple]

I agree that it looks like shit, however, that only happens when using any head cosmetic that doesn't have the collar's upper part and I don't like non-collar headwear on psyker anyways. (it doesn't fit into the aesthetic I'm going for, and besides, the non-collar headwear are mostly on other classes, and I wanna look different from vets and zealots)

[fiery stratus]

Sure, but there's a collar on nearly every psyker body. Even if it's not gigantic, it still looks like a big ass horse shoe around the neck. How about a turtle neck sweater 🐢

[zinc phoenix]

I pity the foo

[zinc phoenix]

The worse part is the arm tubes

There are so many beautiful psyker jackets ruined by those damn tubes

[silent wigeon]

I have it as a mouse button

[zinc phoenix]

I’ve yet to buy a darktide outfit or skin or thing because I don’t see the point

[tacit stump]

no arm tubes

[zinc phoenix]

Yea but unfortunately that looks like badly made football pads

[tacit stump]

i still like this Outfit the only outfit i buyed for real money on each char

thats my characters would look like a magistrati patrol squad

[zinc phoenix]

I want something that looks like a nicely cut hussar uniform from the 19th century

Most of the stuff in game looks like a cross between hot topic and sports pads

[nocturne dust]

You get the shoulder pads in 40k or you get thrown into the warp

[zinc phoenix]

For example

[tacit stump]

let me my shoulder pads be it heavy metal

[tacit stump]

play vet...

[zinc phoenix]

It doesn’t look heavy metal, it looks like lawyer ladies from the 80s

[tacit stump]

...i mean like the maleus monstronum one or the one in showed before with no tubes

[zinc phoenix]

Psyker IRL

You can tell because she has horrible warp powered nightmares about dancing babies

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qWhABsnbgbA

[fiery stratus]

Rootinest Tootinest Cowboy Shootinest Psyker in all the Imperium

I have like barely any psyker cosmetics

Thats also one of the most low profile collars I could find. Still big horse shoe around neck.

[tacit stump]

atleast your throat is save

[fiery stratus]

Until a bullet shatters the mask RIP

[tacit stump]

i mean like against dog bites

[fiery stratus]

I didn't even know this frame existed. Looks good.

They eat the filter

Works once lol

[zinc phoenix]

Dogs aren’t morons, if they hit metal they start biting something else 😂

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah it’s the one for getting pretty high up there in penance points

I’m gonna start hunting skulls soon to get it

[tacit stump]

enough time to stab them or explode their little brains

[fiery stratus]

I need like 5-6 more rewards to finish for now

still need a bunch of psyker penances

[marble crater]

[wintry niche]

Not all tubes are bad tubes

[zinc phoenix]

I can’t even comprehend how someone would put that outfit on

There’s also all the groin straps on veteran

Why would anyone want leather straps on their nuts

[marble crater]

Carefully, that's how

[tacit stump]

do you try to smell your own farts ingame

[wintry niche]

They don't go to the ass, sweat smell only

Besides, this one hides fart smells with corpse smell

[zinc phoenix]

I feel like the outfit designers wear nothing but tshirt and jeans and have never done anything more active than walking in a park because so many of the outfits are literally impossible

[fiery stratus]

Its what GWS allows Fatshark to add. Gotta love constant micromanagement

[wintry niche]

The fuck lol

clack clack clack while walking? 🤣

[tacit stump]

is metal sure why not

new vet legs are even worse

[wintry niche]

Not even joking

[tacit stump]

this shop is full of bodymodifications

[jovial juniper]

Me going down as vet and telling my team that I can't feel my legs

[tacit stump]

thats why

[patent mango]

12 days remain

[cinder moon]

oh my god, the pegleg is back

it's only taken....2 years?

[tacit stump]

pegleg for everyone beside vet

[fiery stratus]

@cinder moon Actually they've dropped a pegleg for each class this year I'm pretty sure

Maybe not the rogue trader zealot one

But vet, ogryn, and psyker have had peglegs within the last year

[cinder moon]

i stopped paying attention in the last year

[fiery stratus]

I guess the vet ones are more like prosthetics

[cinder moon]

there was a pegleg for psyker that wasn't part of the rogue trader stuff, i was waiting for that to come back

[fiery stratus]

I check the shop even if i don't buy anything, and when I do it's usually like 1 body cosmetic or something

[cinder moon]

it was one of the first rotations through the shop

[fiery stratus]

But they never have anything worth spending money on anyway

[cinder moon]

yeah i've been sitting on my aquilas for over a year

[fiery stratus]

They've dropped some good sets, it's good to check right after updates because they'll actually put decent stuff in. Hoping to cash in on that fomo

Lol I wonder how many cosmetics are gonna sell on ps5 day 1

[cinder moon]

hmmm

[tacit stump]

hello pegleg

[midnight cove]

how stupid am I if I play without a keystone on psyker

[plucky flax]

Very

[mild junco]

Hi, What's the blessing for Trauma Staff ? Flurry and Nexus, as usual ?

[mild junco]

Bonehead-less Ogryn level

[jovial juniper]

Nexus Blazing Spirit

Blazing Spirit applies soulblaze on an area larger than your indicator

[marble crater]

Larger than the universe even

[pine relic]

anybody tried?

[fiery stratus]

Nah but I have a 1 legged version from a few months ago

[tacit stump]

what do you think about this skin

[brisk lintel]

smite is fun

[fiery stratus]

The guard is nice, the blade is barely noticably different

[tacit stump]

i think i still have the other duellingsword skin fron some months before

[fiery stratus]

The saber looking one is the one I use the most

[tacit stump]

yes

if i am home i could screenshot it

[edgy garnet]

What frames are these?

[jovial juniper]

Warhammer+

It's a streaming service of sorts

[edgy garnet]

Damn, thanks for the info!

[echo root]

I actually bought it, never bought any skin in this game before.

[tacit stump]

sorry

[echo root]

Looks good

[tacit stump]

i gonna post the other duel sword skin when i am home

[young summit]

I'm a sucker for writing on the blade

[rapid cliff]

I can't wait for the two handed force sword I already love the one handed isli one and the greatswords of vermintide are beautiful

[patent mango]

https://tenor.com/view/elden-ring-magic-sword-power-up-cell-big-sword-gif-25130362

[echo root]

Doesn't have the cool handle

Can make that handle at home with my red electronics tape

[radiant frigate]

it's true

[patent mango]

big if true

[radiant frigate]

big regardless

3 stage force cleave

we do just be casting carian grandeur

[summer prairie]

The havoc Q&A makes it sound like you can't replay havoc levels, except maybe when they refresh weekly. To "replay" you would have to find a party that is doing a level of your preference, but unclear what you can do after you hit 40.

pretty sad, doesn't sound like you can just choose a fun challenging level and keep playing that instead of maelstorms or whatever

[steep estuary]

Psyker gang moment

[plucky flax]

Malice?

[steep estuary]

Yeah just popped in for a maelstrom warmup

[patent mango]

ig wep blog is next

[analog agate]

Yeah… kinda sucks it will be difficult to replay havoc levels

[crisp wedge]

Quick question, for Combat Blade and Staff, which stat do people not max out?

[echo root]

Combat blade Mobility, staff depends on the model

[crisp wedge]

Void

[echo root]

Strike or Blast

[crisp wedge]

Which one is better? I'm confused lol

[echo root]

Voidblast is better

Voidblast creates a blast on the ground

Voidstrike shoots a bowling ball

[crisp wedge]

I was following a "soulblaze trauma staff" build

4 months ago, would you say its outdated?

[echo root]

Drop Warp res or quelling, doesn't make a huge difference

Look here
#psyker-class message

[crisp wedge]

Which one do you prefer

Ok thanks

[marble crater]

Does anyone know how many weapons I need to sacrifice from mastery 0 to 20?

[summer prairie]

maybe around 30 of the same type

[marble crater]

Thank you

[zinc phoenix]

Apparently in the grimderp future of the 41st millennium no one knows how to sharpen a knife

[plucky flax]

It sounds crap tbh.

[ornate abyss]

Maniacs or unyeilding on dueling sword? Does it matter?

[young summit]

Maniac, I would imagine

[summer prairie]

unyielding is more damage overall, depends on what you prioritize

seems a bit weak to take maniac just for the mutant one-shot

[ornate abyss]

https://youtu.be/Qn9nsqPCfEw here is the build I am making, thoughts?

[summer prairie]

it's good

perks are a preference, but if you want to squeeze a bit more SCOREBOARD damage, maniac is not it

since maniac doesn't do anything as far as I can tell beyond mutants

you are going to be using DS a lot more against bosses, especially with that build, and the extra damage is never wasted against them

[plucky flax]

Wow he can do 1 mil damage must be good.

[summer prairie]

pretty good yeah

[zinc phoenix]

Agree, having to hunt down people to play a hard mode where losing resets progression seems like a recipe for endless whining and waiting for a lobby to fill

[plucky flax]

I think you can't even quick queue into it.

[summer prairie]

losing progress doesn't even matter, at least to me

[plucky flax]

You have to use the LFG noone ever use.

[zinc phoenix]

You can’t, have to use the new group finder

[broken carbon]

(on psyker)

[summer prairie]

it's just that they seem to have specifically made it so it's not something that can replace maelstorms as the hardest content you can keep playing

[plucky flax]

I'm good knife and combat axe zealot too!

[zinc phoenix]

So one guy malds and leaves, nobody can queue in and now you’ve got a bot for the rest of the run

It just seems so shit

[broken carbon]

(this is equally as bad)

[zinc phoenix]

I have built a tank veteran who cannot be killed and it is hilarious

I got the TDR up to like 150% or something ridiculous

[mossy oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/fall-asleep-falling-asleep-sleepy-doze-off-dozing-off-gif-10742301

and im a good trauma and purge user too !

[broken carbon]

my macro makes me so good at electro!

[plucky flax]

I can only play OP weapons sue me.

[mossy oyster]

no chaos

i'll just sue soyker

[broken carbon]

get 900k damage with a mk3

[mossy oyster]

cause thats what the class has done

[plucky flax]

No I will just spam creeping flames and win.

[ornate abyss]

what are you guys talking about

[zinc phoenix]

AIDS

[broken carbon]

psyker is easy

[plucky flax]

People hate cos psyker is stronk.

They don't understand you have to press right click and f.

[mossy oyster]

no

[plucky flax]

It's hard.

[mossy oyster]

wrong chaos

you think our hate is misplaced

its the fact people dont admit soyker is strong

[zinc phoenix]

They hate us cuz they anus

[mossy oyster]

you can clearly admit that

[ornate abyss]

I am considering changing my stamina +3 for health

I can't res anyone anyways

[summer prairie]

maybe people on reddit don't

or youtube comments

[ornate abyss]

And I get almost instantly killed

when 2 or more gunners focus fire

[plucky flax]

If anyone actually play surge staff (left or right click) for 1 round they can tell it's OP af.

Auto aim

[zinc phoenix]

Reddit comments and YouTube comments are indeed the brain trust of the internet

[analog agate]

I firmly believe it is because they can’t melee/dodge. Which you need to be good at one or both of those to excel as a psyker

So they just go down constantly

[zinc phoenix]

Oooooh they’re adding alt-f4 cheeser punishments

Too bad they can’t reset the titles too

[analog agate]

Also. They better fix flurry on electro staff with this update

[zinc phoenix]

People with auric exemplar who have multiple wounds and can’t dodge literally anything drive me mad

[upper sun]

psyker veri week

pls buff

[mossy oyster]

finally

some good fucking takes

https://tenor.com/view/hulk-hogan-shake-hands-pleased-happy-macho-man-gif-11860553

[summer prairie]

the game is mostly boring if everyone knows what they are doing

[plucky flax]

Tru

Let me cook 1 mil damage in under 30 mins

[tame night]

sorry guys couldent resist

new "helm" and backpack really look nice with that gold penance reward chest

[jovial juniper]

What is bro looking at

[tame night]

everything

[zinc phoenix]

You’re not wrong. Some people seem to get around it by stacking five wounds and hoping like hell their team will handle it

[zinc phoenix]

Probably hentai

Fifty different ones simultaneously

Hes attempting to explore tau depravity as part of an extra credit assignment for Grendel

[fringe garden]

Psyker is strong, but it is also the hardest class to play effectively. Hands down

[tired estuary]

lol

[cloud raven]

How we feeling about the havok mode siblings ?

[tired estuary]

i love weaves, its a shame this patch isn't coming with a 3rd faction where the melee trash can poke you from behind the front line + archers in a game that wasn't built for them

[jovial juniper]

There's a severe lack of Rag on a stick

[analog agate]

I would love a 3rd faction. But.. I also hated the goatmen

So. No goatmen

Please

[bleak maple]

I'm going to commit crimes against my team mates

[summer prairie]

I liked them, archers mildly annoying but nothing compared to darktide shooters

[tired estuary]

no, goatmen please

[bleak maple]

This one guy complains I'm using smite during the train mission

[tired estuary]

aurics spawn 10 standard bearers please

[bleak maple]

Like raaaa If you weren't ass at the game I wouldn't have to use smite

[jovial juniper]

Five hundred Bestigors

[tired estuary]

nurgle blessed bestigors

maelstrom modifier: Mostly Bestigors

need more maps like gloriana start tho, so the person magdumping the standard knocks everybody else off the edge

[sturdy reef]

Warrior priest stays winning

[zinc phoenix]

I’m probably going to skip it, it sounds like it will be a source of enormous bitching and moaning

Grind out the cosmetics then forget it exists

[celest spear]

This is what psykers mean when they say “I see”

[tame night]

agreed, you are brutally punished for misteps, which is why every time I see some youtube go "hey guys first time playing darktide, lets see what classes are available, OH A SPACE WIZARD HE SOUNDS COOL" and then gets bodied over and over and quits the game

[zinc phoenix]

They should try being good and not being bad

[celest valve]

me, i got bodied over and over again until i learned to not get bodied :v

[tame night]

I mean unless you have played vermintide or chivalry the idea of dodging in and out of melee combat is very foreign to FPS

[zinc phoenix]

First Person Suckas should have played Mount and blade then

[tame night]

hah, oh I wish more people had

[strong gulch]

I'm only bad. A poxwalker judges me from an armlength away and I die from emotional damage; or I just fecking walk off a ledge.

Only bad plays here. Please rescue.

[zinc phoenix]

I built an empire of skulls and used my nude body to taunt the weak in MP

[tame night]

but on the flipside psyker is what got me my no downs auric malestrum medal

[zinc phoenix]

Cower behind your armor plebes!

[tame night]

in the right hand it can carry a team

[cyan portal]

I'm super excited for havoc mode, finally more difficulty

[zinc phoenix]

The only difficulty will be not murdering the endlessly bitching mongs

[cyan portal]

you just gotta make friends with some skilled and sane players

[zinc phoenix]

I am married with a 6mo old baby, playing with other people at a regular time is a fantasy

[tame night]

im super excited for havoc mode because...

[marble crater]

I think I still need the penance, either that or for reviving people. So I can do that until the penance is finished

[zinc phoenix]

Damn it once again stupid looking glowy eyes on the helmet

[cyan portal]

just make enough friends that you can group with some of them whenever you can fit in some games?

[zinc phoenix]

Why do they keep doing that it looks horrible

[tame night]

because it glows 😦

and makes you look like that dude from Jin-Roh

[wispy bay]

Whoever directed the running scene for that guy needs to go out and run more.

[tame night]

the whole animation felt stiff to be honest

[wispy bay]

The brother was talking baby steps...

[tame night]

I know they make sure everyones in a helmet so they dont have to animated anyones face, but it felt like a step down from their normal.

[wispy bay]

It breaks any illustration of urgency.

[marble crater]

He was tired okay

[strong gulch]

Thanks sibling. 🙏

[celest valve]

a tip i learned from veterans is to have enough health(over 200) to survive poxwalkers far better

[strong gulch]

Ye. General rec for psyker is 1 sniper resist and 200 hp.

Doesn't save you from refusing to dodge everything.

[celest valve]

yeah but poxbombers tend to be my bane simply because they can be incredibly difficult to dodge in certain scenarios. also you don't really dodge them, you kinda have to kill them before they reach you or melee push

[radiant frigate]

i like to run 2x corruption resist

[celest valve]

....the talent that doesn't down you when you overload. that uh. that doesn't respect corruption resistance right, it acts as if you were downed and revived

[strong gulch]

push
push

burster immue

Another burster and is silent

[celest valve]

until you get a burster dive bombing you from the sky while you're shooting people with a staff

[frail spear]

This is a tip I did not know when playing psyker. I will keep this in mind, sibling.

[celest valve]

honestly i think sniper resist is overkill but I also think gunner resistance is bad so

[strong gulch]

If you don't eat the odd sniper shot, then don't worry about that perk.

But 1 sniper resist and 200 hp lets you tank a sniper and then 2 bursters.

[celest valve]

which yeah I guess I don't lol snipers for me at least tend to be one of the easiest to dodge

it helps that my ping time lets me just react dodge to the charge up sound without even breaking a sweat

[strong gulch]

I eat them when the laser isn't even pointing at me or the sounds comes AFTER the shot lol.

Or I forget that dropping down from a ledge means I can still get shot.

[haughty scarab]

Is disrupt destiny the recommended keystone to always go for when running gun psyker? Playing where's waldo every match is terrible

[radiant frigate]

you what

[strong gulch]

Yes. Also for voidstrike.

[radiant frigate]

wdym gunner resist is bad

[haughty scarab]

Damn

[thorn cedar]

too good to pass up

[haughty scarab]

Yea damage is crazy

[strong gulch]

If you really hate it, you can pick something else. The damage and build won't be as optimized tho. I feel you tho. I lose my mind trying to get my shiny stack man.

[radiant frigate]

if you want to play gun but hate dd i might recommend Other Class

[haughty scarab]

I have to go lingering influence, I don't even know how it's possible to run perfectionism with it

[marble crater]

I don't have either of those two things

[radiant frigate]

such is my advice for the next 12 days

[haughty scarab]

I'm playing it for penances

I'm a vet main

[radiant frigate]

it being gun, or it being psyker

[celest valve]

my personal thought is to just not get hit. But I also tend towards having one weapon or ability to trivially deal with them.

[celest valve]

warp charge gun sorta works

[radiant frigate]

i just think it's prudent to have resistance against a common enemy type that likes to travel in packs and can shred you in a second

[strong gulch]

I don't think gunner resist is bad, but I do get the sentiment that if you have good positioning and move tech, that gunner resist will have less value. It's also not something that is doing something for you all of the time.

That being said, I do run it on my trauma build because that is want I'm most vulnerable to on that build.

BUT I also get it that it's a "when you need it" type of thing.

[haughty scarab]

Does gunner resist still not apply to elite gunners

[strong gulch]

Curios are really personal.

[radiant frigate]

can you go without gunner resist? surely
but will it restrict your movement not to have it? absolutely

[radiant frigate]

it only applies to them in fact

[haughty scarab]

Oh, I thought it was opposite

Lmao

[strong gulch]

Gunner resist works on dreg and scab gunners and reapers. Shot gunners and the little shooters do not get covered.

[radiant frigate]

if there was Damage Resistance (dickhead with autogun/lasgun) i would run it thrice too

[plucky flax]

Just don't get shot wtf.

[radiant frigate]

sorry, no dodge slides here

[thorn cedar]

if im dying to gunners its because im out of ammo, there is nothing for me to hit, i cant crit for emphatic evasion, and i am way too fucking deep into a giant pile of gunners i had no business being in, at which point gunner resistance achieves the noble goal of extending my stunlock suffering by three hundred milliseconds

[upper sun]

i want trash shooter resist

[celest valve]

https://youtu.be/D88y3hlRZ2U?t=240

[strong gulch]

uh oh

[marble crater]

Oh no

[upper sun]

uh uh

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/peace-out-gif-22295199

I'm gonna go enjoy my coffee.

[thorn cedar]

id love to make more content but im fucking lazy

[plucky flax]

STAY WITH THE TEAM STOP BEING SELFISH IN WAR

[upper sun]

you need a niche and i think theyre all taken

femboy
haha badword
japanese player that doesnt say anything
wholesome
larper

[thorn cedar]

niches are made. im just lazy.

[celest valve]

i agree with them mostly because 99% of the time when I get caught by gunners, I am only downed because I did a bad dodge because of bad habits from other ranged enemies, which specifically DOESN'T work on gunners.

...then on psyker in general every psyker build I have is a crit build(do there exist NON crit psyker builds?) and as long as I'm damaging enemies I am literally immune to ranged attacks so...

[radiant frigate]

there are indeed noncrit psyker builds

the dastardly smyker..

[plucky flax]

Bubble smite my beloved.

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/tweaking-out-black-guy-tweaking-meme-gif-6022943353035016664

[celest valve]

oh yeah also gunner resistance if you have bubble LOL

you could take gunner resistance. or you could take CDR on bubble. hmmmmmmmmmm

[plucky flax]

It's op.

[thorn cedar]

bubble is something i hope to see reworked/nerfed tbh

but its like ... not really all that OP in that sense

i just find the implementation really lame

[celest valve]

eh i mostly want left side bubble reworked/buffed

[plucky flax]

I avoid staying in bubble because I don't want to the game too easy.

[thorn cedar]

shield wall is already very strong

its also broken rn so

its actually a case of not fixing it

cause if they fix it ... it'll stop 1/8th as many specials per cast

bubble's just dumb to me due to it deleting enemy projectiles inside the dome

if a trapper runs in, that should be a fuck up on your team's part, instead she's a non-threat because the net never actually fires

BoN's being trivialized

etc.

it's not a stated mechanic and there's no real reason it should work that way

[celest valve]

curious tbh how it's broken rn

[thorn cedar]

Lemme find the numbers

shield has 20hp, a special bumping it and being stopped is meant to deal 8 damage to it

right now they only actually do 1hp

so you'd be going down from 20 mutants to 3 (whenever thats applicable, admittedly not often)

[unkempt knoll]

i shall become the next crack fiend in the gutter with the knife

[thorn cedar]

everyone needs a dream

[stone totem]

This is the only part of it that I think should stay

:^)

[nocturne dust]

It has an invulnerability period after each hit

It's also not that broken because it only really deals with specials in hallways where they're easy to deal with anyway 🤷‍♂️

and isn't tall enough to protect Ogryn too

[late yew]

CAN I JOIN A MISSION THAT HAS NOT STARTED FFS

[rigid sky]

Can anybody sell me on the recon lasgun for psyker?

I want to try something that's not a vraks 5 for a change

Which recon is best for us? I heard the slow one is good since we don't have Onslaught like the vets to fuck up crushers, and it gets good crowd penetration?

Do I want Flak/Maniac/Dumdum/Infernus on it?

[upper sun]

unyielding instead of maniac and ur good

or maybe extra crit

[rigid sky]

Apart from that I just run the same build I would on a vraks 5 right?

all the talents work the same

[upper sun]

whats the build

but tbh all gun builds should work on all guns for psyker

[thorn cedar]

you can do any recon tbh, i run them flak/maniac/deathspitter/dumdum

the mkxiv with warp splitter is a real good time

[steel flame]

hands down my new favorite head piece

[thorn cedar]

and i prefer the vic since its faster to draw and at 11rps its gonna keep crit uptime high for EE

[rigid sky]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9d8b6fb0-d39e-494d-a563-bdbca7183540

Leans on Assail for ammo efficiency purposes

[steel flame]

i swear if they had put a tall ass collar on these eyes i would have cried

[rigid sky]

Gonna give it a try now anyway

[steel flame]

this collar is a war crime and should be eradicated

[glacial socket]

https://tenor.com/view/gojo-roblox-pretty-bomb-gojo-satoru-jjk-gif-10308814757332321098

[thorn cedar]

i dont recommend TTS actually if youre gonna do the warp splitter shenanigans

youll quell too much and sit at pretty much zero perils the whole time youre firing and will miss out on a lot of dps as a result

[steel flame]

the irony

that the perk they put in to extend scriers for guns, works so well it hurts scriers for guns XP

[mental grail]

Unfortunately no

[mental grail]

I hate that collar so much it's unreal

[steel flame]

and its fuckin white

NOTHING ELSE IS FUCKING WHITE

[mental grail]

Especially bc they pair it with the sickest rebreathers

I can't fashionmaxx bc of the stupid collar that doesn't match w/ anything else

[steel flame]

im tired of them putting neckware on every dam headpiece

[thorn cedar]

nah its still super good in all other occasions

[mental grail]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-keyboard-what-is-your-problem-green-smash-gif-18195947

[rigid sky]

Not worth it even to just expand the gazes?

[steel flame]

yes we know you have a collar settup for every psyker armor, we know, STOP PUTTING COLLARS ON EVERY SINGLE ONE

[thorn cedar]

its just with the XIV recon you want to be at 34% perils for 4+ cleave, cause thats when you start to do some really silly shit

[rigid sky]

I guess the fact that you dump it straight away at 100 that sucks

[thorn cedar]

TTS will instantly quell that off of you

[rigid sky]

I'll try to change that out

[nocturne dust]

It is, it's fine

[mental grail]

especially because every chestpiece already has a damn collar, no reason to keep screwing up headpieces with unnecessary collar bs

[thorn cedar]

my recommend is to drop the Assail recharge node for crack of bone

then you can still use melee to superjuice scriers

[nocturne dust]

Yo dawg, I heard you like collars

[thorn cedar]

and when you swap to ranged even mid-scriers the autoramp will get you to 34%+ no problem

[rigid sky]

Will give that a try for the next mission

[steel flame]

i just want the psyker gear from rogue trader

[nocturne dust]

Crack of Bone doesn't do the quelling nearly as well as TTS

[steel flame]

please just give us the rogue trader psyker outfit

[mental grail]

https://tenor.com/view/kurt-kurt-angle-100-yard-stare-what-are-you-serious-gif-4081464694509837388

[thorn cedar]

no but it doesnt turn off your perils for ranged

[nocturne dust]

I mean with scrier's up Getting your perils up is as simple as not firing for 0.5 seconds

[unkempt knoll]

i want a robe with no collar for my psyker

[rigid sky]

but that means you're not firing your gun

which is heresy

[unkempt knoll]

make em look like a mage and a crack addict

[thorn cedar]

and suicide if youre using EE to stay alive in a gunfight

[nocturne dust]

Sorry is this some gunker logic I'm too staffker to understand?

[thorn cedar]

better to just not fuck with it

[nocturne dust]

Imagine firing a gun

[rigid sky]

If there's a heretic alive in the universe and you're not currently pulling a trigger you're a heretic

[thorn cedar]

you dont need it anyway, you have warp unbound

[nocturne dust]

EE lasts for a whole second

You will be fine

[thorn cedar]

and scriers takes a lot longer than that to build up unless youve been maintaining it a while

[steel flame]

i want this fatshark, GIVE ME THIS

[nocturne dust]

which you can do with TTS

[thorn cedar]

in this case we want some perils

[nocturne dust]

[thorn cedar]

otherwise no point using this mark of recon

[nocturne dust]

Just burst fire 🤷‍♂️

[thorn cedar]

or just not take the node and magdump whenever you want

[nocturne dust]

Conserves ammo

Also warp splitting can be for the melee/assail and not the gun

It's still a valuable node even if you ignore it on the gun

[mental grail]

Bro they aren't even gonna give us an idira-like set

[steel flame]

they are so scared of long robes its insane and extremely annoying

[unkempt knoll]

i want this but no fancy signs and shit and its just a large tatterd robe ontop of my psyker

[mental grail]

the reason is that it has to be able to fit the collar headpieces, at least in theory

I want my idira set

[steel flame]

i mean shit i just want more hoods in the game

[mental grail]

fatshark is pathologically afraid of actual hoods

they gave the actual hoods to the zealots and not the literal space wizards

[steel flame]

i want hoods without the stupid speaker in front of the face

[mental grail]

it's so over

[plucky flax]

@rigid sky recon mk12 + assails spam with warp unbound
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7BNyAtCrrc

[steel flame]

in other news, since fatshark refuses to give us hotshot lasguns, i went and made onemyself

[mental grail]

only thing I'm huffing copium for are the force longswords

I hope they'll be actually viable

and not poopy

[nocturne dust]

greatsword*, smh my head

[steel flame]

im super hyped for them, im predicting a ranged slash special attack

[summer prairie]

greatswords or just great swords

[thorn cedar]

great greatswords

[plucky flax]

Frenship ended with illisi.

Big sword now my best fren.

[nocturne dust]

Can you imagine the explosion if it sucks

[mental grail]

🤓☝️ if we go by technical sizing, these are longswords

[mental grail]

illisi was just a stop gap on the road to true swordmaxxing

[nocturne dust]

If we go by their name, they are greatswords. 🤓

[radiant frigate]

big illisi

[patent mango]

ermmm actually they're 2 handed swords

[plucky flax]

Illisi but BIG

[mental grail]

i walk my own path ☝️

[late yew]

wtf, 300 specials

[mental grail]

I can't wait to have both hands wrapped around its grip

[late yew]

Also this is how i am supposed to do with flaming trauma, right?

actually almost 400 specials

[mental grail]

you two-hand illisi only during the heavy attacks

[plucky flax]

How long was the game?

[late yew]

i did not check

but it was pretty normal

[plucky flax]

You can check by pressing f2.

[mental grail]

full time two-hand action 😋

[plucky flax]

Or whatever the button to bring up scoreboard history.

[late yew]

The mission where you explode some bio-lab with disease

[nocturne dust]

Also, to note 🤓, a longsword is defined by the ability to be wielded with two-hands, whereas a greatsword can only be wielded with two hands. They are not necessarily mutually exclusive but the implication is a longsword is capable of being one-handed.

[late yew]

35:55

[plucky flax]

Then it's average damage I guess. Not bad.

[late yew]

Average for psyker, or specifically for flame trauma?

[summer prairie]

had a 27 minute game where everyone had 500k+ and one with 800k, pretty high average for that short game

[late yew]

Also what values are average?

[plucky flax]

Oh average for my standard. Don't worry about it.

Below average even.

[late yew]

[late yew]

[nocturne dust]

Depends on how you play

[late yew]

Well i don't specifically chasea for score

[plucky flax]

[late yew]

I always loot everything

[nocturne dust]

I average high 600k because I'm defensive and a looter.

but I do get to 900k sometimes.

Those are normally bad times tho

https://tenor.com/view/uncanny-emoji-angry-hakayaki-hakayaki-angry-emoji-gif-13101565263917230073

[plucky flax]

I'm just reflecting upon my damage per minute pls no flame.

[prime elk]

I usually average around 1.5 million in 20 minute matches

Y’all are dogshit compared to me

[nocturne dust]

I'm using a flame staff, sorry, I can only flame

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1004447866250613048/1295449409160478781/chiquichico-ezgif.com-instagif.gif

[prime elk]

https://tenor.com/view/ben-stiller-acting-tough-tough-strut-gif-7551880

[plucky flax]

Wow you are so gud

Maybe even top 0.5%

[prime elk]

https://tenor.com/view/monkasen-nathan-monka-coom-gif-23519849

[nocturne dust]

ur so kool and special

[prime elk]

I’m “special” forces

[late yew]

X

[prime elk]

Ur just jelly

[plucky flax]

The 800k must be pretty good if the other 3 can do 500k in 27 mins. Especially for a random pub game.

[late yew]

Usually i compare myself with others in the same lobby

[mental grail]

The where a "longsword" becomes a "greatsword" is not a clear cutoff, and doesn't simply come down to being "wielded with two hands" as most longswords are primarily wielded with two hands in most circumstances. It's more a combination of blade length and how the weapon is employed. 🤓☝️

[late yew]

because otherwise it is hard to compare considering how random everything is

[late yew]

Eh, not really

[patent mango]

greatsword

[late yew]

I am doing hema professionally

[patent mango]

hema from warframe

[mental grail]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-carl-weathers-gif-5129663

brother

so do i

[rigid sky]

Nah, I think I need to keep the peril quell thing for toughness maintenance more than anything

EE alone doesn't cut it

[nocturne dust]

I mever said longswords aren't normally wielded with two hands. 🤓 My prior point stands.

[mental grail]

I point is that doesn't make a sword a greatsword, and it more of a mix of characteristics. ☝️

[nocturne dust]

It ain't, it's mainly about weight for classification. 🤓

[mental grail]

irl greatswords, back then generally called ‘longswords’ regardless, could get fuckhuge at over 215-220cm long

[nocturne dust]

Yes

because heavy

[patent mango]

jollysword

[thick mauve]

ceremonial swords were great

[mental grail]

not really, blade/hilt dimensions would count moreso than weight, even if weight is important

[nocturne dust]

Greatswords can be longswords under the loosest definitions, but longswords are not necessarily greatswords, ergo it is proper to call it a force greatsword because it is more specific

[nocturne dust]

I don't believe you. 🤓

[patent mango]

force gs technically wouldnt be that heavy

[mental grail]

Warhammer gets very iffy with dimensions as a stylistic choice, things don't match up very well.

[nocturne dust]

The reason you can define gs by dimensions is because metals are generally about the same weight

[late sapphire]

A longsword is considered a greatsword IFF it is great enough!

[mental grail]

Well now I don't believe you. ☝️🤓

[late sapphire]

Clearly if it wasn't great it'd be called a Badsword

[nocturne dust]

Wikipedia supports my understanding. 🤓

[mental grail]

Why people back then defined by dimensions is that they effect the balance, and thusly how the sword is used.

[thick mauve]

"it was too big to be called a sword, it was more like a hunk of iron"

[nocturne dust]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classification_of_swords

🤓

[mental grail]

I'm not one if those "Wikipedia is useless" bro's, but it isn't the most reliable.

[late sapphire]

Wikiwarrior spotted

[nocturne dust]

Back your argument up with a source then

[patent mango]

its true

[mental grail]

Type out the first sentence. 🤓

[patent mango]

greatsword sounds cooler tho

[nocturne dust]

the first sentence

Now what

[nocturne dust]

And? We're being nerdy and pedantic, historical imprecision has never stopped anything!

[mental grail]

Y'know what, you're right.

BRB 🗣️

[mental grail]

I typically go by oakeshott when classifying swords anachronistically, which classifies by dimensions explicitly. In period though, they weren't as pedantic as us, and classified swords in more simplistic language.

[marble crater]

Not as pedantic as us? They were missing out

[nocturne dust]

Couldn't be, no internet with infinite sources for every viewpoint to say you were right

[mental grail]

does automod allow outside links?

I browse the swords subreddit all the time and have a post saved for this exact question

[marble crater]

Try it I guess

Or use the new forward feature from discord

[mental grail]

they were more pedantic about the exact shade of green used the the left quarter of duke grünenshitten's coat of arms

[mental grail]

https://www.reddit.com/r/SWORDS/s/3jQ6BS3fN5

[marble crater]

CoAs were important back then

[mental grail]

its unfortunate it fell out of favor

they used to go so hard

they need to add meltas and long-las weaponry to the game

should meltas be class restricted though?

I hope so, I was never for unlocking all the weaponry, giving ds to zealot was like giving crack to an addict

[marble crater]

I don't know what meltas are, but it sounds like something only the vets should have

In exchange we can take the dueling sword away from them

[nocturne dust]

vet weaponry

[nocturne dust]

Meltas are big spray and pray lasguns

Like the gunner guns

if I'm not mistaken

[mental grail]

Intensely short ranged anti-everything weapons.

[nocturne dust]

If I am someone will correct me

[marble crater]

Sounds fun, maybe vets shouldn't have them after all?

[mental grail]

Like plasma-guns, but with way shorter range, and no heat balancing.

[nocturne dust]

I think they should be vet limited

[prime elk]

Sounds like it should be on vet 🤔

[nocturne dust]

They're too advanced for Ogryns

[patent mango]

multimelta for ogryn

[nocturne dust]

and Zealots are too insane

[patent mango]

zealots got enough stuff

[nocturne dust]

Zealot could use a tree rework

[mental grail]

Battle Sisters can carry a multimelta, so our large associates should be able to carry one no problem.

Zealots get too many toys though, so I don't want them having any more fun getting them

[jovial juniper]

That bitch is huuuge

The gun is also big

[mental grail]

[late yew]

BRUH WTF ARE THESE GAMES TODAY

[nocturne dust]

They can carry one but they can't maintain one

[late yew]

I want eldar weaponry

[mental grail]

wasn't the point of “unlocked and reloaded” our sub-brick IQ rejects learning not to break things?