#psyker-class

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zinc phoenix
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and i would put a flamer resist and a sniper resist

late sapphire
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You cc the enemies maybe but you also cc yourself into falling asleep

zinc phoenix
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👆

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using warp charges is better than empower for smite surge

strong gulch
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No enfeeble and bm is fine on a smite build.

zinc phoenix
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because you can shriek more and your damage is from fire not from smite

strong gulch
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generally bm is dookie

zinc phoenix
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but using empower is A choice and the rest of the traits are fine with the comment that BM can be moved to something more useful

late sapphire
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BM isn't actually that dogshit

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I like it on voidstrike because i can toss a half charged ball into a horde for free and it's nice to have

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It depends a lot on what weapons you use and what talents you have

strong gulch
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EP smite is one of the few builds BM is meaningful on.

zinc phoenix
uncut sinew
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i love that feature on it

marble crater
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But then you have to use EP smite, nothing is without negatives KEKW_ogryn

peak kelp
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I find your builds being boring argument interesting, because generally the only time I get bored is playing veteran

late sapphire
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+15 toughness would be fine too

zinc phoenix
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like objectively for both your and my build assail recharge would be better

late sapphire
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No that's silly

zinc phoenix
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than crack/bm

strong gulch
late sapphire
zinc phoenix
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i feel like with SG/DD psyker either i'm not getting hit because i am a murder blur or i've been disabled and am about to die

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so another 15 toughness doesnt change my situation

zinc phoenix
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yes

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i cant think of a better thing to do with it

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Maybe I should stack flamer and bomber resist

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Genuinely tho

thorn cedar
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yea

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same space

peak kelp
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i generally go ability cooldown, stamina regen, and either health or toughness on all curios

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I dont put too much thought into it

thorn cedar
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id wager half of my deaths are running my mag dry accidentally and getting shredded by gunners cause there's nothing close to proc emphatic evasion on and I went way too deep lmao

late sapphire
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I've benefitted from having exactly 205 hp a few times recently

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Notably on grimoire runs

gilded jackal
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I don't understand how the electric staff's secondary attack works.
Does it just do a dozen of single-target attacks and that's why it sucks against groups?

tulip kettle
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i feel like ability cd is useless if you dont take 3 of it

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and if you do its still so meh

thorn cedar
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on Psyker i see no point

uncut sinew
tulip kettle
thorn cedar
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Psykinetics Aura, Warp Charges, and the aura are all options and much stronger

gilded jackal
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I see

tulip kettle
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its the most single target focussed of all the staves

uncut sinew
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and has the fastest charge rate

tulip kettle
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i am notoriously not a surge staff enjoyer so i dont know much about it

uncut sinew
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and it can stunlock enemies

late sapphire
tulip kettle
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oh ive seen a bunch of people here make it look good

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and ive heard how its nice to not need to aim at all

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i just dont get along with it

late sapphire
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Not needing to aim is a lie

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If you are trying to target an enemy in a horde

tulip kettle
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compared to my last game playing zealot with throwing knives and wiffing fully half of them

late sapphire
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In short, you can rmb and instantly swap back and forth and that kills specials and small elites

tulip kettle
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its pretty brain off

late sapphire
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Perilous combustion makes it useful against mixed hordes

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But it relies quite a bit on meleeing to clear chaff

tulip kettle
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i just think every other staff is better

late sapphire
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OR you go the evil and twisted lmb spam route because it's sadly about 5x more powerful

tulip kettle
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and purgatus is not better, but different and actually does its job

gilded jackal
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which melee weapon is best against chaff specifically?

late sapphire
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illisi force sword

tulip kettle
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and for lmb spam why would you not play void

late sapphire
tulip kettle
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this i agree with

late sapphire
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crit bonus stat

vernal blaze
late sapphire
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surge staff has crit bonus stat, voidstrike has blast radius

tulip kettle
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fair but does it actually do anything?

late sapphire
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the crit bonus is HUGE crit chance and damage

tulip kettle
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like crits are cool and all but all the staffs 1 hit trash anyway

late sapphire
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Like double effective dps

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Yeah but surge makes it shoot two balls so crits kill two chaff

gilded jackal
late sapphire
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In short you can lmb spam 20 maulers to death in seconds

late sapphire
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surge/electrokinetic staff used to chain to like 10 enemies like smite does

vernal blaze
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smite looks more like an aoe lightning hand movement than surge does idk how to explain it

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maybe it's the upturned vs downturned hand deal

gilded jackal
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Oh right, if Smite works well against chaff then I might go electrostaff + smite

late sapphire
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back in my day there was no smite

tulip kettle
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that is an issue

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well depends on your philosophy

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i look at it like

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i have 3 available slots

thorn cedar
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six enemies

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Was old surge

tulip kettle
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i need to kill trash, far stuff, and big guys, and bosses

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so i need to cover all those with my 3 slots

late sapphire
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so you take voidstrike and that kills everything except for bosses

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and then you cry because you are stuck meleeing bosses with a ds

tulip kettle
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if you take surge and smite you wont have anything for far enemies

gilded jackal
late sapphire
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For chaff you mostly rely on venting shriek

vernal blaze
late sapphire
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6 stacks soulblaze do enough to kill chaff

peak kelp
late sapphire
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Yeah

late sapphire
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the notorious left click

tulip kettle
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i just hate it

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i hate lmb on staffs

peak kelp
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or better yet let your veteran do it

vernal blaze
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"""letting""" your quickplay vet do it

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lmao

tulip kettle
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thats a lie i used to love lmb on staffs then the servers went to shit and now i hate it and void and pretty much anything that has bad reg

vernal blaze
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trusting the only medium ranged gun user in the lobby to actually do his job

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😟

late sapphire
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voidstrike has great hitreg

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the ball is enormous

peak kelp
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i was being sarcastic but yea

late sapphire
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you can hit enemies who are 100% in cover by just tossing a ball through thin air

tulip kettle
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ew big balls void

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im a solid trauma enjoyer

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doesnt matter how bad the reg is if everything is just flying away from me on fire

late sapphire
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trauma has great hitreg i particularly love using it on stairs

tulip kettle
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at this point i dont even struggle with stairs

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its just lots of smaller platforms after all 🙂 also trauma works through levels way better than it used to, i dont know when it changed or if im just imagining it but you can be above or below stuff and it works just fine

marble crater
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Aim at the middle bar on the stairs thumbsup_ogryn

late sapphire
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i love stairs

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stairs are just angled corridors

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and corridors are my favourite

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Oh what's this, director, a mixed horde sent to my location straight through a perfectly linear corridor? Delectable.

radiant frigate
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stairs, lumberfoots

late sapphire
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These stairs go -

radiant frigate
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up, master dwarf?

late sapphire
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Aw, you've spoiled it...

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Man the darktide dialogue can't hold a candle to the ubersreik banter

cosmic sigil
radiant frigate
bleak tusk
radiant frigate
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yes and no

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it murder-kills the first target and tickles a second one

bleak tusk
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Oh

gilded jackal
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I like how Ogryns are the only ones that don't talk shit about Psykers

radiant frigate
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i think loose cannon is pretty nice to psykers

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(and ofc psykers stick together)

patent mango
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what if 1 force greatsword has a vertical special one is horizontal

plucky flax
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No I hate other psykers.

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Let me be the only psyker in the team.

gilded jackal
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i might have notmet that personality often enough

radiant frigate
gilded jackal
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I just had a match with 4 psykers

patent mango
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grail knight type ability 🔥

radiant frigate
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4 psykers = unstoppable killing machine

patent mango
radiant frigate
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3 psykers = certain death

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perhaps instantaneous

plucky flax
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Other psykers when they want to dps race

Let me use my creeping flames at low peril to 'claim' soulblaze stacks

radiant frigate
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this is why i don't do shriek anymore

plucky flax
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Unethical man.

patent mango
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i cant stab as well with shriek

radiant frigate
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or you could use boneless shriek

plucky flax
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Hell nah

gilded jackal
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How do I build electrostaff? I like how it liquifies enemies.

radiant frigate
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enemies were already liquid

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just need to take the peel off

marble crater
plucky flax
# gilded jackal How do I build electrostaff? I like how it liquifies enemies.

Additional peril generation reduction and having soulstealer make you tankier and can spam surge (electrokinetic) more. As always, smash F to spam creeping flames and everything will die. Smite is there for super hairy situation but 90% of the map you will just spam your staff.
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▶ Play video
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Spam right click and F to win.

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There's another extreme version for more damage but i recommend this one.

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KF surge whatthefuck_heresy

patent mango
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kfc

zinc phoenix
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it turns out that playing so much right side psyker has left the part of my brain previously used to store the left side psyker playstyle scarred and deformed

vernal blaze
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seeing dd outlines irl

young summit
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Hearing the high peril warning in the gym

compact cargo
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This is just old creeping barrage

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but fine tuned!

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Wait till I get my ogryn lawyer

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(gameplay is peak tho)

plucky flax
nocturne dust
vernal blaze
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I think the guide recommends flak elite

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elite lets you hit m1 x5 m2 m2 on crushers iirc

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i did the test a while ago

patent mango
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manifest force greatsword irl

strong gulch
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It does, and that gets a bp on scap gunners on rmb.

nocturne dust
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Sure, but elite only helps hit a single gunner bp

nocturne dust
vernal blaze
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oh word

nocturne dust
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if you have empyric shock

vernal blaze
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yeah that was the assumption when I said m1 x5

strong gulch
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But second perk helps hit bp on in varrying degrees on different enemies have still requires you to have a follow up charge or m1 on most things.

vernal blaze
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I remember trying it with warp rider perfect timing es and missing the 2rmb relatively consistently

strong gulch
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That's why flak + personal pref is the general rec.

vernal blaze
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unless we're talking about starting from like 30% peril or whatever it was

nocturne dust
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Reaper goes down to 3 with perfect timing active

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with unyielding

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and obviously it helps with bosses

strong gulch
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I've personally had too many games in which I was highest boss damage on surge / EK or the main one taking down reaper packs. So I just use unyielding as my second surge perk now.

vernal blaze
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we love testing with warp rider

strong gulch
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Testing surge is ass because of its random damage. (that's excluding warp rider)

patent mango
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man im fine with inferno rename but voidblast and electrokinetic are so bad

nocturne dust
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also I don't even take empyric shock unless I'm going lmb spam

tulip kettle
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nono you dont understand

nocturne dust
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why shoot lmb when you can do more rmb

tulip kettle
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its the physical impact of the electrons that is doing the damage

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not the current

gilded jackal
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warp makes electrons very heavy

nocturne dust
patent mango
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voidblast is too similar to voidstrike and electrokinetic people shorten it anyways

mossy oyster
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ive come

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to spread dbarrel gunker propaganda again

tulip kettle
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holy shit

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they renamed the staffs?

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i dont even look at the names of anything

marble crater
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They could rename them but they couldn't give trauma and voidblast different picture icons in the lobby? staregryn

patent mango
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they cant afford that

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entire budget went into force gs 🔥

young summit
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Small indie company

strong gulch
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If we get a new staff, they are gonna call it electrokinesis and confuse us again.

patent mango
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telekinetic staff

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lemme throw enemies into other enemies

marble crater
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Imagine they call it surge, just to fuck with us

young summit
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New staff, got an idea for it

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Call it

mossy oyster
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you can try the staff with 2 barrels on it

young summit
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Pain

mossy oyster
patent mango
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nah

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rename inferno to voidburn

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electro to voidshock

nocturne dust
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Shrapnel staff and blackhole staff, plz Fatshark

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🙏

gilded jackal
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Shrapnel Staff? You mean a shotgun?

nocturne dust
plucky flax
marble crater
young summit
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🤝

nocturne dust
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Shrapnel staff is my idea where it summons a passive storm of shrapnel that follows you around and applies brittleness/bleed. It's a melee compliment.

patent mango
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singing spear for staff

young summit
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A cloak style cast with a timer would be cool

nocturne dust
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Yeh

patent mango
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portal staff

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lemme just teleport behind the enemies

strong gulch
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sienna fire walk

young summit
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Portals to keep up with DS shrouded zealot

gilded jackal
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My biggest issue with staves is that they don't have very satisfying sound effects unlike the guns, so I wish there was a staff that would remedy that.

patent mango
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exterminatus heavy staff

young summit
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Voidstrike has cool sounds imo

gilded jackal
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fair enough but the staff itself is pretty lame

young summit
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You what

patent mango
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yeah voidstrike is just lamer javelin staff from v2

nocturne dust
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Get in the hole

gilded jackal
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You just shoot a magic ball 🤷

nocturne dust
marble crater
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Fire

nocturne dust
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A magic ball

idle delta
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Anybody knows what's up with the surge staff having 4 spare points in the mastery thingy ?

gilded jackal
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If Fireball was mostly single target and also not fire then it would also be lame.

young summit
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Voidstrike single target?

nocturne dust
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You think the staff that can cleave 24 enemies in a single attack is single target?

patent steeple
patent mango
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bring back coruscation lmao

patent mango
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i want a staff that has lingering effects

idle delta
marble crater
nocturne dust
young summit
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Hmm

patent mango
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wow 3 ordo perks make dollar

nocturne dust
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Mmmm noice dollar

young summit
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Is it +15% for dockets?

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Or does it go higher

patent mango
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10

young summit
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+30% total then

patent steeple
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btw, am I the only one who played VT2 versus mode, and was pleasantly surprised to hear male Seer Psyker's VA as the skaven team announcer?

nocturne dust
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Yes because I don't do PvP chadgryn

patent steeple
plucky flax
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Give versus mode to dt.

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I'll terrorise people as trapper.

gilded jackal
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I'd play the VT2 PvP if they let me play only rats

plucky flax
radiant frigate
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real rat gameplay

waxen jackal
patent steeple
mossy oyster
gilded jackal
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man, some of these penances are fucking bullshit

paper harbor
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Ik

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Is for cosmetic bullshit

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Sometime worth it

nocturne dust
fringe garden
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The real trick is to get penances naturally. Going out of your way to get them is lame and boring.

mossy oyster
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you might be stupid

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but thats ok

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(not you sighion)

nocturne dust
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Hey man, the dream is to blast enemies away at point blank

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there sure were a lot of unblasted enemies there

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😭

mossy oyster
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i think the dbarrel does plenty of blasting

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from my exp

gilded jackal
paper harbor
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Since db give 2500 dmg per shot

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Right?

nocturne dust
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🤷‍♂️ It almost always feels like worse voidstrike to me

gilded jackal
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Or naturally stop using my ability to kill 200 enemies with Mind Blast while at max Warp Charges.

paper harbor
shell spoke
mossy oyster
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yeah i think part of the problem is comparing a shotgun to a staff with infinite cleave essentially

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just maybe

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but yknow what do i know

late sapphire
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he doesn't know

paper harbor
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😪

nocturne dust
gilded jackal
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I'm specifically not going to ask you so that you can continue feeling like the most special boy.

late sapphire
gilded jackal
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I was trying to be nice and you ruined it.

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Now you won't get to feel like the specialest boy anymore.

mossy oyster
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are remotely comparable

late sapphire
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You are being very condescending

mossy oyster
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thats just your playstyle

late sapphire
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Do you have anything to prove?

mossy oyster
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because they arent in the same realm at all

gilded jackal
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You think?

late sapphire
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Seems like it yeah

broken carbon
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what because he made a joke about how that penance used to be?

gilded jackal
broken carbon
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now you’re this mad?

late sapphire
broken carbon
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christ dude

broken carbon
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dw jack i’m sure you two will be able to kiss it out soon

late sapphire
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I've got a price though and i don't think he can afford me

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At least 20$

gilded jackal
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Is the Shoot Fast penance just broken? It's at 0 right now but I'm pretty sure that I've killed plenty of hounds using Brain Burst before they touched anyone.

broken carbon
late sapphire
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Are you on a high enough difficulty?

nocturne dust
broken carbon
mossy oyster
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like i said

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if you can compare guns to staves

broken carbon
mossy oyster
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thats on you

gilded jackal
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Oh, that one wants Heresy unlike all the other penances that want Malice

nocturne dust
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Lmao

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Can't compare things, got it

late sapphire
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Oh you're a malice boy

nocturne dust
late sapphire
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Malice boy acting high and mighty lol

mossy oyster
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its not comparing them you say they are alike we tell you they are not

broken carbon
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voidstrike is an infinite ammo, charge up staff

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shotgun is an instant, ammo limited shot

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both share high cleave (shotgun if it’s got manstopper)

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that’s really it

gilded jackal
mossy oyster
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shotgun can (maybe) rival voidstrike cleave with a manstopper crit shot into a normal chaff horde

late sapphire
mossy oyster
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its not going through crushers

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like voidstrike

broken carbon
gilded jackal
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What I said was just as much of a joke.

broken carbon
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clearly

nocturne dust
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I mean, the effect of attacking is somewhat similar. You shoot something down a hallway and it does stuff (or tries to). The point isn't the fact that one has peril and yadda yadda, it's the actual attack.

zinc phoenix
late sapphire
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I have a webMD in psychiatry and i'm pretty sure you've got some kind of conduct disorder my malicious little malice friend

broken carbon
late sapphire
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But yes, you need heresy for that penance

broken carbon
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got it..:

nocturne dust
broken carbon
late sapphire
nocturne dust
broken carbon
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as opposed to having to wait for its charge

broken carbon
radiant frigate
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so, uh

broken carbon
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also even if the voidstrike is better, that’s not the point of this disagreement?

radiant frigate
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anyone ever been thrown into a spawn door?

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by mutie

late sapphire
broken carbon
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i’ve had it happen a couple times a while ago

nocturne dust
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Mmmm, my point of original comparison was the attack was a worse version, it had nothing to do with the firing mechanism. 🤷‍♂️

late sapphire
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A mutie can bring you back out

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Outside of that, just die

nocturne dust
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Like, I don't think instant accessibility should make it worse, because it also has limited ammunition

broken carbon
late sapphire
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The dbarrel is fun to use but it kinda sucks idk

broken carbon
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sure, its not as good as voidstrike

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but the voidstrike is still overpowered

late sapphire
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Voidstrike... op...

broken carbon
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it’s just been overshadowed by other, more overpowered weapons

nocturne dust
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Lol

broken carbon
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now it’s just been kinda pushed to the wayside

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as in, overshadowed

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it’s still as strong as it was then

late sapphire
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What do you think is the most op weapon then

broken carbon
late sapphire
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m1 electro with or without the exploit

broken carbon
nocturne dust
late sapphire
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interesting survey result, we will be buffing surge staff next update thumbsup_ogryn

mossy oyster
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as if you're that important that we would remember some shit like that

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lmao

broken carbon
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LMFAO

nocturne dust
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and the chat in general

mossy oyster
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again you remind us like you're important

nocturne dust
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No?

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How does that make me important? 😭

broken carbon
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it should be actually balanced weapons with weaknesses and strengths

plucky flax
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No let me just spam my surge/burga and win.

nocturne dust
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Sure, but how much weakness and how much strength

plucky flax
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Me bad me play psyker on aim assisted staves Pepega

broken carbon
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can’t really quantify that

nocturne dust
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Like, every staff still has weaknesses in a sense

late sapphire
broken carbon
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one shots crushers, great horde clear, great single target

late sapphire
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Havoc will be so peak

broken carbon
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boss damage is it’s only “weakness”

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even then, it’s still decent enough at it

nocturne dust
broken carbon
nocturne dust
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M1 doesn't fix that issue

mossy oyster
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true

broken carbon
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just click

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at the shooters

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it’s got high suppression

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and it’s like 2 headshots to kill iirc

nocturne dust
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It's not gonna suppress scattered shooters or you're not scattering them enough in your mind's eye 🤷‍♂️

young summit
broken carbon
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shrugs at you

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agree to disagree i guess

nocturne dust
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Also the other weakness of the voidstrike is it has a very slow charge

broken carbon
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double barrel

nocturne dust
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And yes, it's fine and not that bad, but they're still weaknesses of a sense

nocturne dust
broken carbon
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THEYRE DIFFERENT WEAPONS!!!

nocturne dust
mossy oyster
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oh wait

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i forgot

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staff users

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🤪

nocturne dust
broken carbon
mossy oyster
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people who actually want to play proactively

nocturne dust
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Ew

broken carbon
mossy oyster
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or fuck with peril

nocturne dust
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But Scrier's already does the peril

broken carbon
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lost cause

broken carbon
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hi higui

mossy oyster
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yea im sure its hard to understand why youd want instant 20-40-60% peril

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with OWTW

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warp rider

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etc

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surety of arms bad

nocturne dust
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Yes but then you have to quell more to reload and stay in Scrier's

mossy oyster
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this is with scriers down

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you arent in scriers 24/7 of a match

jovial juniper
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Funny 35% reload special ammo shotgun is funny
But nothing to add to whatever discussion y'all having

nocturne dust
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Benefits don't seem to outweight the demerits tho 🤷‍♂️

mossy oyster
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?

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if you are out of scriers you have access to instant TDR and DMG and a faster reload

nocturne dust
mossy oyster
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you act like its hard to quell after shooting and reloading

mossy oyster
ornate hamlet
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Surety is what the gigapenis people use when they got an IAG or recon or laspistol or Fabio's underwear equipped

nocturne dust
shell spoke
# mossy oyster

Only getting 8 shots off while in gaze seems kinda dog tho ngl

broken carbon
late sapphire
# mossy oyster

i too shall waste one fifth of my ammo on two maulers and a few dogs

mossy oyster
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when im in a dogshit coping competition and my opponents are soyker chat

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lost causes

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stuck in their ways

plucky flax
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I would have prefer burga in that tight little corridor. BURN

mossy oyster
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so sad

patent mango
shell spoke
broken carbon
late sapphire
#

But also the fuck do you mean 'tight little corridor'

broken carbon
plucky flax
broken carbon
runic juniper
plucky flax
#

It's just too easy to win on those 2 op staves. SadgeCry

patent mango
#

exactly we need voidplasma staff

broken carbon
#

i cast blue

plucky flax
#

But I don't mind it. PeepoHappy

mossy oyster
late sapphire
#

They should make a variant of purgatus that does nothing but blind zealots

mossy oyster
#

thats why we gunker

late sapphire
#

Oh wait

patent mango
#

i think they should tape a force sword to staves

plucky flax
#

Void sucks it's too slow.

broken carbon
patent mango
#

then its a polearm

runic juniper
#

all staves feel like cheese one way or another

plucky flax
#

Comparable skills level void would never win in damage.

runic juniper
#

clearly they should use ammo

nocturne dust
broken carbon
nocturne dust
plucky flax
#

(my least favourite staff currently and I also rank it worst out of the 4)

late sapphire
#

voidstrike is clearly peak staff, purgatus is worst

#

easily worst staff

#

most boringest staff ever in fact

nocturne dust
plucky flax
#

Voidstrike users are welcome to dps race with me.

broken carbon
#

purg is just so bad…

nocturne dust
mossy oyster
broken carbon
#

easy 700k damage……

late sapphire
#

Only 700k 😔

broken carbon
#

they’d be so done

nocturne dust
mossy oyster
#

people still are surprised when i dont take faster assail charge

nocturne dust
#

They scare me

late sapphire
#

Assail is a plebian weapon

mossy oyster
#

said the plebian

late sapphire
#

True patricians unbind their blitz key

runic juniper
#

what about my smokes though

patent mango
patent steeple
# broken carbon it’s all he needed

is this a good time to tell the Borderlands classic joke of "if you needed more than one shot, you weren't using a Jakobs-brand gun! (just pls ignore how often enemies will survive more than one shot from Jakobs-brand guns because of difficulty scaling)"?

for context in case you guys are unaware, Jakobs guns in BL are stuff like doublebarrel shotties and revolvers, and they all have (relatively) high base damage but usually shoot only a few shots before needing to reload...

mossy oyster
late sapphire
nocturne dust
#

If you rebind everything to the same key, you only have to press one button to win chadgryn

runic juniper
nocturne dust
patent mango
nocturne dust
plucky flax
#

At least people are not racist to me being OP on psyker like they do when I play knife zealot. PeepoHappy

bleak tusk
#

Amazing

nocturne dust
bleak tusk
plucky flax
#

They don't want to work.

runic juniper
plucky flax
#

Have you heard of worker's rights in sweden? FS employee has 6 months paid leave a year.

patent mango
#

12 paid months vacation yearly

bleak tusk
#

Damn

late sapphire
bleak tusk
#

28 days for me 😬

plucky flax
#

28 is not bad no?

bleak tusk
#

No

#

People can have like 30+

plucky flax
#

Yeah I have 35.

bleak tusk
#

That’s sweet

patent steeple
# late sapphire ... knife psyker though

I actually used that on a gun psyker build at one point.

getting SG stacks from headshot kill was easier with knife than with DS4, but everything else sucked about it for the most part iirc...

late sapphire
#

knife just sucks fellas

#

it sucks you heard it here first it just sucks

nocturne dust
#

Knife sucks. It's not fast enough.

late sapphire
#

dueling sword is huge, knife sucks fellas we have the best weapons here in psyker chat only the best weapons

bleak tusk
#

Force sword thumbsup_ogryn

nocturne dust
#

Make it faster Fatshark you cowards

plucky flax
nocturne dust
plucky flax
#

Sit around in the office talking during work hours. PeepoHappy

waxen jackal
#

@nocturne dust gonna try out your purg build in a sec. I'll let you know how it goes

nocturne dust
plucky flax
#

I can't talk shit today I sat in a car for 4 hours on my phone.

#

'Working'. whatthefuck_heresy

zinc phoenix
prime elk
zinc phoenix
#

i have a friend who has been living with his parents in sweden for 20 years because he still hasn't come off the apartment waiting list

#

he's in his 40s now

errant pawn
#

Do they not have a single construction company over there?

zinc phoenix
radiant frigate
#

the mutie is legitimately traitor MVP

prime elk
#

Well they still get a shit ton of vacation so fuck them. KEKW_ogryn

plucky flax
#

Why don't they just build more houses? Are they stupid?

zinc phoenix
nocturne dust
#

Well, I mean... have you seen housing prices in the North America? 🤮

late sapphire
#

I LOOOOVE planned economies 😍

zinc phoenix
#

our housing market has similar problems but a 20 year wait is unreal

prime elk
zinc phoenix
#

i can get a rental in any american city in a couple months lol

prime elk
#

Some places are dirt cheap

nocturne dust
zinc phoenix
zinc phoenix
nocturne dust
#

That is indeed a place I have never heard of loregryn

zinc phoenix
#

like sure if you think the US stops at the hudson river you're going to think it's all expensive

young summit
#

Chattanooga mentioned

zinc phoenix
#

but actually you can get loads of beautiful places for very little

zinc phoenix
young summit
#

Not from there but it's a nice place

zinc phoenix
#

we're in nashville and my wife (who is about as blue a democrat as you can be) has made friends with all the deeply conservative neighbors who she was initially scared would eat her 😂

zinc phoenix
#

there are lots of 200k places in the city if you are ok with smaller

nocturne dust
#

Still a crazy price for what it was a couple decades ago. Big oof.

zinc phoenix
#

yeah

young summit
#

Genuinely nightmareland trying to buy a house so we left

zinc phoenix
#

it's gone from horse farms to mega burbs

young summit
#

I was in Cane Ridge. Lol

#

Real

#

It all happened so fast

gilded jackal
#

Does Smite kind of suck or am I missing something? It takes for ever to kill anything, including chaff.

wind jay
#

Dont wanna use it for DPS, use it for stunning lots of stuff.

radiant frigate
patent jacinth
radiant frigate
#

and/or flame shriek

#

i do not recommend building this but it is very effective

gilded jackal
radiant frigate
#

empowered psionics

#

middle keystone

gilded jackal
analog agate
#

EP Smite build

patent jacinth
#

Don't use it

analog agate
#

Shriek at 86 peril

patent jacinth
#

Everyone will regret it

radiant frigate
#

this is vile

#

putrid

#

evil

analog agate
#

Some would say…

#

Diabolic

radiant frigate
#

dastardly

#

hold on

#

why the crit talents up top

#

can't you pick something else to make it more dastardly

waxen jackal
#

I know the zealot chat doesn't think very highly of smite psykers for some reason

radiant frigate
#

well, nor do we

#

it is very effective and very uninteresting

waxen jackal
#

Neither does reddit. I'm sensing a pattern

radiant frigate
#

or entirely ineffective and uninteresting

#

depending on build

spice veldt
#

i'm especially not a fan of smite when i'm running a melee build

radiant frigate
#

smite shriek kills any room short of a boss encounter

#

while also locking said room down

waxen jackal
#

Ragers used to be my least favorite enemy. But the longer I play the game, the more I'm realizing bombers are my least favorite

analog agate
prime elk
#

Tox bombers and trappers for me

waxen jackal
#

Same. Nothing is lore annoying when you're dealing with a horde and there are like 3 tox bombers throwing bombs at different times

radiant frigate
#

or mutie

prime elk
#

Muties can be friends

#

Actually they’re usually friends lol

radiant frigate
#

because mutie ranges from helpful to The Hope Ender

waxen jackal
#

Trappers have been on some bullshit lately. Shooting nets through walls and stuff

analog agate
#

Imagine if they programmed muties to aim for ledges

radiant frigate
#

imagine if muties did not let go

waxen jackal
#

I do enjoy when the mutie throws me out of a tox cloud, or grabs me right before a crusher gets me

tribal echo
#

They are just fucking annoying and there is no easy way to get rid of them if there are like 3 in your face unlike any other enemy

patent mango
radiant frigate
radiant frigate
thorn cedar
#

i love smite

#

too bad about all the stuff with the things

mystic pawn
#

What is the worst stat for the electric forse staff

radiant frigate
#

warp resist

mystic pawn
#

oh ok got a staff with 80 on everything except for quell speed

kindred ivy
#

i love running this

wintry niche
narrow herald
patent mango
#

this guy again lmao

patent mango
#

bait thumbnail clearly

nocturne dust
#

I mean, it's way less concerning than Empyric Resolve being circled

narrow herald
#

wait i thought he was only circling Penetration

#

💀

nocturne dust
#

Bro didn't circle Channeled Force 💀

buoyant maple
nocturne dust
#

and actually wait

patent mango
#

the hec is channeled force?

nocturne dust
#

Crystalline Will staregryn

nocturne dust
#

above Empyric Shock

patent mango
#

i c

narrow herald
#

this has to be bait

patent mango
#

i wish that just lasted longer

#

but at the same time lmb builds dont need help

#

lmao

buoyant maple
#

The worst talent in the game is undebatable

#

Inspiring presence (veteran)

nocturne dust
#

It should've been buffing rmb in some way

buoyant maple
#

Nothing else is as bad

thorn cedar
#

unlucky for some

buoyant maple
#

Unlucky for some is funny

nocturne dust
buoyant maple
#

It’s in the same row as iron will & demo team

patent mango
#

isnt that a node

nocturne dust
#

I mean that does something

#

Charged Strike exists

buoyant maple
#

Charged strike is just low value

patent mango
#

charged strike is gonna have a synergy with a force gs blessing trust

buoyant maple
#

Inspiring presence is no value

nocturne dust
patent mango
#

500% more dmg on electrocuted target

narrow herald
#

ok so i went into the video, yes he thinks crystal is bad too

#

but this clickbait video

nocturne dust
#

Oh good

buoyant maple
narrow herald
#

DARKTIDE HAS BEEN DRY FOR 2 YEARS

patent mango
narrow herald
buoyant maple
buoyant maple
patent mango
#

in 13 days darktide gets out of beta

nocturne dust
#

No solo mode

#

So you're wrong

patent mango
#

get the mod close enough by this point

jovial juniper
waxen jackal
#

Purg staff goes crazy

patent mango
#

seriously just make charged strike stack and have consistent good damage

nocturne dust
runic juniper
nocturne dust
#

It is broken KEKW_ogryn

buoyant maple
patent mango
buoyant maple
#

Still better than inspiring presence because u kinda 50:50 take it for warp siphon

#

Whereas inspiring presence doesn’t get you anything interesting even if u take it

waxen jackal
patent mango
#

if force gs is peak its defo 1.0

nocturne dust
#

I feel like taking something because it's a requirement to move further down doesn't make it good

errant pawn
#

Pots?

buoyant maple
errant pawn
#

Man I’m so behind on the acronyms

nocturne dust
errant pawn
#

Ah ty

jovial juniper
#

10 rending at 75 peril

nocturne dust
#

+10% rending on 75%+ peril (but it's completely broken and doesn't work)

jovial juniper
#

Kek

runic juniper
buoyant maple
patent mango
#

true

#

both assail and rock have subpar talent options

waxen jackal
nocturne dust
#

Mind in Motion exists.

buoyant maple
#

Mind in motion vs malefic momentum

patent mango
#

coughing baby vs warp nuke

waxen jackal
#

Is mobility the dump for double barrel?

patent mango
#

probably

jovial juniper
#

Seems about right

runic juniper
#

yeah prolly

nocturne dust
#

I mean, yes probably

buoyant maple
nocturne dust
#

unless the gun has defense or something whatthefuck_heresy

waxen jackal
#

Yeah, just wanted to double check. I assumed on a different weapon and wasted a bunch of diamantine so I always ask now

runic juniper
buoyant maple
#

DB’s SP1 melee has 6.5 cleave

runic juniper
waxen jackal
#

And electro staff warp resistance for the dump? Or quell speed

buoyant maple
nocturne dust
#

Except on voidstrike

waxen jackal
#

Which is blast radius

nocturne dust
#

si

slate oasis
#

I went to Slug Land and all I got was this lousy t-shirt

wintry niche
#

I never got that one

#

Even though it says completed

waxen jackal
radiant frigate
#

thunder hammer assassins about to return from the shadows

waxen jackal
#

Lol I was joking around. Is there an actual DH event? I'm terrified

radiant frigate
#

the absolute darkness modifier has extra DH spawns

patent mango
#

bulwark hordes event

radiant frigate
#

like super frequent

patent mango
#

khorne event with 500 billion ragers

waxen jackal
#

Oops all Gunners/reapers event

waxen jackal
near drift
analog agate
#

Tried In Fire Reborn over vampire on blaze blast. Still prefer vampire

radiant frigate
#

🧛🏻

edgy garnet
#

Is there a dueling sword macro? I saw a YouTuber doing a heavy attack then instantly a special attack after it. Is that a thing?

analog agate
#

Don’t need a macro. It is a really fast follow up

edgy garnet
#

Fair, just seemed kind of annoying

strong gulch
#

If you're playing DS2, that's how you H1 chain. H1 S repeat. On the DS4 it's just H1 H2 repeat.

kindred edge
barren pine
#

is dump stat on inferno staff warp resistance?

lone ravine
nocturne dust
nocturne dust
#

Dumping damage is bad practice with blaze away + crit damage

#

Direct damage is actually pretty significant now.

barren pine
#

is it even worth it to roll another or is this fine

nocturne dust
broken carbon
#

lol

#

even if crit was 40

nocturne dust
broken carbon
#

it would still be meh

barren pine
nocturne dust
#

And the scoreboard doesn't lie, direct damage easily accounts for 1/3rd of Inferno's total damage

nocturne dust
barren pine
broken carbon
nocturne dust
#

No, it is because direct damage is actually useful

broken carbon
nocturne dust
#

Sure, on literal hordes, constantly ticking

#

Do the math

broken carbon
#

even then, it isn’t that much compared to your burn stacks

nocturne dust
#

It really is

broken carbon
#

i’d need to see proof of how often that direct damage ticks

#

because as far as i know, if it’s anything like the flamer

#

it’s relatively not often

nocturne dust
#

I don't know anything about the flamer, but what I do know is Inferno's damage distribution (without dumping damage) is about 1/3rd direct damage when using mostly secondaries

#

I've seen it vary between 1/2 and 1/4 tho

#

but that's with other psykers involved and soulblaze being wonky on scoreboards

broken carbon
#

lmfao

nocturne dust
#

DoTs aren't attributed very well when multiple people are stacking them

broken carbon
nocturne dust
#

and I have both

broken carbon
#

kk

#

i’m getting on 2 check myself

barren pine
#

dumping warp also just makes sense in that tickle my brain sorta way

broken carbon
#

because now i’m curious

broken carbon
#

with blaze away nexus

nocturne dust
#

Are you accounting for crit variance?

broken carbon
#

again, no talents

#

starting at zero peril

silent wigeon
#

I don't think infernus is great for pubs

nocturne dust
#

Wait, how come you have an 11 second kill time? loregryn

broken carbon
#

only blaze away and nexus

silent wigeon
#

played it quite a bit today, certainly some issues are sound masking, and pushing friendlies foreward. my day was filled qith quite a few losses.

broken carbon
silent wigeon
#

when ever it was working well it was amazing, when things fell apart on me, they came apart hard

broken carbon
#

note that the max peril start does also have to quell

#

so

#

that does affect it

nocturne dust
nocturne dust
#

To note, damage also affects burn intensity which is tick rate iirc

broken carbon
#

i dont think burn intensity actually affects anything

#

i tested it ages ago and i never noticed a change

#

id have 2 retest to be sure though

nocturne dust
#

I'd need a 0% damage staff or datamining to be sure

nocturne dust
broken carbon
broken carbon
nocturne dust
#

Is the effect minimal? Yes. It still is a better stat than warp resist tho.

broken carbon
#

i can post my clips if youd like

broken carbon
#

warp resist is actively detrimental in many cases

nocturne dust
broken carbon
#

a clipping software

nocturne dust
#

That's still a manual thing isn't it

broken carbon
#

im editing the clip

#

and can see the time

#

this is damage differences

#

testing to see if burn intensity is instead how fast the direct damage applies

#

eugh my ac is broken rn and its so fucking hot in my room

barren pine
#

its november lol

broken carbon
broken carbon
#

@nocturne dust

#

thats the last of my testing

#

its too damn hot

nocturne dust
#

How do healthbar numbers work? loregryn

broken carbon
#

why are there two healthbars?

#

that’s just because the healthbars mod and the psykanium healthbars are overlapping

#

they function identically

nocturne dust
#

No, like, the numbers

#

that show underneath

broken carbon
#

i think damage that occurs close together enough adds together

#

or maybe DOT damage adds?

broken carbon
nocturne dust
#

Are they aggregating? Averaging? I know they can be weird sometimes

broken carbon
#

because otherwise sawing damage numbers would add together

broken carbon
#

you can test it, but like i said im done for tonight

#

i’m sweating in my own fucking room

#

i hate florida

#

it’s fucking

#

91% humidity

#

what the fuck

#

euuuugh

nocturne dust
#

Sawing with an evis gives me 1 number

broken carbon
broken carbon
#

hrm

nocturne dust
#

Yes

broken carbon
#

i misremembered then

#

my bad

nocturne dust
#

I got bleed on the evis tho

#

maybe it's doing something?

broken carbon
#

please

#

bloodletter is so bad

nocturne dust
#

Nope, using a different evis still does the same

broken carbon
#

hrmrmm

mossy oyster
nocturne dust
broken carbon
#

so then i guess if two damage instances occur close enough together?

broken carbon
#

see if the shots add

broken carbon
nocturne dust
#

I don't have a columnus KEKW_ogryn

broken carbon
#

oopsies

mossy oyster
broken carbon
mossy oyster
#

im literally a state over

nocturne dust
#

I don't even know how an evis is supposed to be built

mossy oyster
#

get fucked nerd

#

dark at 5 pm and actually cold

broken carbon
#

(i know you didn’t ask)

#

depends on the mark