psyker-class

[late sapphire]

How do you get bodied by hordes with shriek purg

[faint nebula]

At some levels it's lack of melee ability... but I'm practicing.

[analog agate]

Well, br/inferno/shriek is the meta build for that staff

[faint nebula]

It does have a CD...

[late sapphire]

The left click on purg staggers

But in general that build is the strongest anti horde next to ep smite

[crimson wigeon]

this penance is gonna make me kill someone istg this is the dumbest shit ever

[young summit]

Which penance

[crimson wigeon]

cliffhanger

its so stupid

[young summit]

Try Gloriana and use your smite on a horde

[late sapphire]

cliffhanger is silly but it's very doable now

[young summit]

As soon as you drop down should be cake

[late sapphire]

If you are on pc i recommend installing the Many More Try mod to solo queue

[young summit]

Helps that it's right off the bat in the mission

[analog agate]

Hab dreyko. End of map after small bridge explodes. A ton of guys spawn on the metal roof before you drop down. Where I did it when it was ?20 guys

[crimson wigeon]

I'm xbox

map I've been trying currently is the finale on metalfab

cause the middle has no railing

getting seven enemies within like a few inches of a ledge while your facing the ledge and not havung your teammates kill them before you can push them off is surprisingly difficult

[strong gulch]

Meta for purg / inferno is KF (kinetic flayer; mod off BB / brain burst), with shriek and warp charges. Inferno is better at hordes than assail. Assail and purg have a lot of overlap too. Max cloud radius allows you to hit targets with purg before they are right up on you. If they are still running at you, you can try sweeping back and forth with RMB / secondary, but the real stagger is in the LMB / primary. To close the gap between yourself and shooters, you can dodge slide towards them while charging a RMB and unleash it when in range. That will suppress all shooters that are not shotgunners. For shotgunners, ragers, and maulers, you to to LMB them to stagger. Plus shriek staggers a whole room and kills trash mobs (also snipers).

Carapace, meaning crushers, are going to give you the biggest problem. BB is an option, but it's is slow. A single target weapon that can take sown cara will be best.

[young summit]

That's why I recommended Gloriana, if you can get a match there. The first horde comes on some railless walkways.

But yeah the center forge in Metalfab could work

[radiant frigate]

i never recommend clandestium gloriana for anything

[young summit]

You kinda have to push through the whole map to get there though, so it's a big investment if all you're doing is hunting the one penance.

[radiant frigate]

except death

[young summit]

Negative

[zinc phoenix]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d8315db-bcbb-41ad-ab18-3ddea22bf668/void-gaze-meleeker

[ashen trellis]

you can do it on chasm logistratum right at the start on the bridge

[zinc phoenix]

i wrote a small guide for that build and it covers how to use assail

[haughty star]

there better be a psyker

[plucky flax]

I did this too.

Hab dreyko also has the same bridge.

[haughty star]

i joined like 8 pubs earlier and they all were in progress at the foundry lol

never got a chance to play anything but my surge cuz that's the only thing i feel comfy with on everything

[patent mango]

i've played this game for so long and i still dont know map names

[haughty star]

well that's a lie i feel pretty comfy on voidstrike shriek assail and DD

the foundry is the one that has a foundry at the end

but idk the actual map name

[faint nebula]

I'll practice a bit more then - probably using Shriek as a clutch to kill the heavy armoured guys more than horde clear.

[cyan portal]

which build are you using exactly?

[faint nebula]

Might be worth reshuffling over to Gaze and giving it a go.

[strong gulch]

Gloriana with double barrels. I'm gonna cry just thinking back to that terrible time.

[faint nebula]

Something similar to this in terms of talents, but force sword instead of dueling - https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9b6d2924-e9b3-4f3b-bc85-2dc0fe0b7f30/headpop-inferno-making-brain-burst-actually-useful

[plucky flax]

Just use it as often as you can. Use it as a tool to stagger. It's not important to hold til 84% with burga.

[strong gulch]

Soulbaze DOT doesn't to much to cara. BB and DS4, deimos, or something else like that will be better. Shriek at everything tho. It's not just for hordes.

The stagger does scale with peril tho. I rec playing with it in the meat grinder and seeing when reapers get staggered.\

[cyan portal]

That's not great, imo.

[radiant frigate]

auntie sienna has great news for you :)

[faint nebula]

Wouldn't know, it feels good in Heresy and I spent most of my first 40 hours playing a close ranged gun lugging ogryn.

[strong gulch]

Here's two builds with purg / inferno. Purg + warp charges is the actual purg build and is the meta one. The one with EP is a BB build that uses purg as the easiest option to slot in.
#psyker-class message

Flak + perfonal pref and blazeaway + warp nexus are the perks and blessings.

[cyan portal]

Warp charges let you spam shriek far more often, which should help your issue. EP BR is just kinda bad imo.

[strong gulch]

Yeah. EP BB has it's uses, but it is still mid overall.

[young summit]

pop

[plucky flax]

Not necessarily bad. It's a different type of burga build. You trade horde clear for better specials and monsters damage.

(still clear horde really well though)

[cyan portal]

Mettle is bugged with Purga atm, until that gets fixed warp expenditure is the better path to perfect timing.

[zinc phoenix]

bruh that is not good at all. if you want a shriek build here https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d854792-f2bd-4c1a-b872-10f8f9eb902a/trauma-and-purgatus lol

[plucky flax]

Mettle gives speed boost.

[strong gulch]

Mettle is still good even while bugged.

[zinc phoenix]

this is also excellent

[strong gulch]

BB does struggle the better the team is. Even fully invest EP BB.

But if you are doing a monster modifier and want all of the warp, EP BB is nice.

[mellow stone]

question about brain burst, do i need to charge it to the max to fire? can i fire it prematurely?

[radiant frigate]

1. yes 2. no

[cyan portal]

I guess if you primary spam enough bugged Mettle might be ok. Seems like a dead talent to me atm though.

[mellow stone]

thx

[haughty star]

might try this one out

[young spear]

I got that penance on the finale of the plague tree mission. there's a spawn right next to the ledge that you can just shriek enemies off of. pubs usually immediately run past this spot since it's a dropdown. just hold block for a little bit and then shriek.
sorry for bad screenshot but its all i have of the mission
i drew a crappy door in red to show where they spawn

[zinc phoenix]

kerillian with complimentary tree branch dild

[strong gulch]

Between quietude, EE, and mettle, toughness gen hasn't been much of an issue for me on purg.

[radiant frigate]

if you are expecting lots of ranged and spellcasting then this is not the one

if you are expecting some casting and a lot of melee, it is

[cyan portal]

I'm running ER, so probably more sensitive to toughness regen optimization.

[strong gulch]

Love weird elf.

[radiant frigate]

ER with purg?

[plucky flax]

ER burga

[radiant frigate]

MAYFLIES

[strong gulch]

Then can for sure see toughness being an issue. I don't run ER with purg.

[cyan portal]

Yup, 14 warp resist deimos ftw.

[radiant frigate]

purg already generates no peril

skip ER right this instant

[strong gulch]

The new RNG gambling. How low can I get WR and get what I want maxed out. 🫡

[zinc phoenix]

to explain why this is bad, the top part of psyker tree is largely about survival and peril management. if you take only that you're giving up a lot of good damage and utility perks lower down the tree

[cyan portal]

I threw like 80 mil at them before patch dropped because I suspected they might become even harder to get.

ER purga is strong though, not needing to quell lets you chain secondaries for max stack blaze away with 100% uptime.

[zinc phoenix]

yeah agreed, its a powerhouse build

the toughness management can be tricky with how little regen you get

but the performance 👌 magnificent

specifically ER + 🍔 atus

[strong gulch]

You can keep 100% uptime blazeaway stacks with 60 WR purg, but it is mechanically taxing.

[cyan portal]

The toughness hit certainly took a bit to adjust to, ngl. Mettle being bugged didn't help. But I don't really notice it now.

[cyan portal]

Curious to see what that looks like if you've got clips

[zinc phoenix]

i take a deflector deimos for the most dangerous threat: mobs of shooters plinking me from miles away 😂

literal hordes of armored ogryns: "this is nothing, i can handle this"
three dudes with flashlights behind a column: "im dyingggggggg"

[cyan portal]

Just hold W, slide, and shriek when in 30m range. Channel your inner w key zealot.

[zinc phoenix]

😂 I mean yes I can do that too but being able to just ignore them is nice

Playing bull butcher gunlugger has forced me to fully embrace slide life tho

[analog agate]

I do ER on all the staff builds. And it can free up inner tranq slot

[strong gulch]

I don't personally but Pygex does. The tech starts at 3:01. Video should start there.
https://youtu.be/2eglQS0WZbM?si=3vcOvplehYWrox1r&t=181

[upper sun]

atlas almost threw

at end event

AGAIN

[lethal lagoon]

I feel like you were in the belly of a nurgle and not me

smh

[upper sun]

🙄

i was afk

in the end elevator

post scoreboard!!!!

[lethal lagoon]

No, I only got to 980k cause you were being mean to me

[upper sun]

i HATE this dude

i was too busy looting

i prolly got 700 plasteel while u got zero

[lethal lagoon]

I did not touch a single piece of plasteel

[cyan portal]

Interesting, he still has ER there though. I wonder if you could net lower your peril with 1 tick quell canceling primaries without ER.

[broken carbon]

were you using smite

[lethal lagoon]

No, just normal surge

[broken carbon]

oh ok then good

[upper sun]

he has 7 fingers on each hand

hes pretty quick with surge

[broken carbon]

was this a hishock auric?

[lethal lagoon]

No lmao, I'm doing the event

[upper sun]

no normal dam

[lethal lagoon]

So just picking any damn that looks good

[broken carbon]

oh that’s why the numbers are low

[upper sun]

level 27

[lethal lagoon]

And then its back into hibernation until havoc mode.

[broken carbon]

as in m1 spam?

[upper sun]

its not gonna go well

[upper sun]

no

rmb

charge

[broken carbon]

good

[upper sun]

we have a level 27

you wanna join once they die?

[lethal lagoon]

We just did it as a duo lmao

There still isn't a good event auric map

[broken carbon]

no

i’m watching a show

arcane

[strong gulch]

This sent me into a coughing fit.

[strong gulch]

I was able to do keep blazeaway stack up with quell cancels and without ER in the meat grinder. It's not something I can maintain in a real game tho. I don't have the brains for it and I am very good at fumbling my inputs.

[upper sun]

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[upper sun]

ur such a stereotype

[broken carbon]

how

[upper sun]

+1

like i said

[broken carbon]

what stereotype am i fitting in here

[upper sun]

arcane watcher

[surreal bison]

any tips for perilous focus penance ?

[jovial juniper]

High cleave weapon

Rashad BM crack

[mossy oyster]

cica grub (I think he asked you to watch arcane can’t remember)

[broken carbon]

i tried to watch it back when it first came out

[wispy bay]

High cleave and try to look for a Malice game with High intensity.

[broken carbon]

got through 2 episodes

just didn’t really care for it

and cica really liked it after watching it with prez

so

i’m gonna rewatch it

i’m at the end of episode 2

[mossy oyster]

I’ll be waiting for you to come back after season 1

And say I cried 3-4 times

that’ll be my number guess

[upper sun]

@lethal lagoon i think playing with dorn ruined me

[broken carbon]

lmfao

cica said i’d probably cry

[upper sun]

i havent rescued or revived anyone

or had any intentions to do so

[mossy oyster]

I don’t think there will be a probably

lmfao

[broken carbon]

live me reaction

[lethal lagoon]

Gots to go for now.

[upper sun]

ye its getting late here

[fiery stratus]

Anyone want to hop in for auric? 2 slots on team 15

[upper sun]

i think im done today

[fiery stratus]

rip

[radiant frigate]

why is it that whenever i see a match with three psykers it's like, mega doomed

[upper sun]

no one has EP BB for boss damage

[radiant frigate]

the only bonbon damage was my kraks and my reconlas

😭

friendship ended with loner, now loose cannon is my best friend

[zinc phoenix]

3 psyker is the weakest. 4 psyker is unbeatable winning machine

i have no idea why

[radiant frigate]

EXACTLY

[strong gulch]

except on twins hard mode with 4 psyker

[wispy bay]

The stack damage on 4 AOE is quite insane.

[strong gulch]

constantly hitting the gobal 31 sb stacks is very silly

[wispy bay]

Even with smite, 4 psykers can clear room within second of anything short of Ogryn.

[zinc phoenix]

but if there is even one non psyker it is doomed

[radiant frigate]

new potato pfp?

[jovial juniper]

Unless you're Scrier's Smite

Hehe funny bulwark kill

Hehe funny 73% crushers hp

[radiant frigate]

what if 4 scrier's smite

[jovial juniper]

With Psy Aura and Warp Syphon

I'll probably rename my psyker from ReworkSmite to TheTickler

[terse wave]

What's better against bosses? Voidstrike or Electrokinetic?

[verbal thistle]

ek

[patent mango]

i wonder if a 2 handed force lance would be possible

[wispy bay]

Void strike is in the middle ground off the other staffs. I use it like gun than anything.

[strong gulch]

Ye. Took it today.

[azure parcel]

Is there a Scrier's + DD build possible on staff?

I want to use that ability and keystone, but not with guns

I have 3 other classes to use guns

I kinda tried to cobble something together to use with Voidstrike, but it failed pretty miserably in terms of peril management

[wintry niche]

Voidstrike is more snipey, elektrokinetic has a nice stagger on the RMB

[wispy bay]

It is the only staff that allows you to shoot more than 20m and still have quite decent damage and AOE.

But for boss, EK is specialist on it.

[wintry niche]

I'm very happy with my EK, I do a fuckton of damage every round

[indigo plank]

I’ve been enjoying EK during my psyker stint

My buddy is a recon gunker but there’s nothing like being free of the burden that is ammunition

[nocturne dust]

Fire staff: 👀

[vocal tendon]

how often is it optimal to weave in melee as psyker when you're running something that isn't a specialized melee build?

[terse wave]

Does it stagger bosses?

[wintry niche]

Not bosses

[terse wave]

But the question was what's better against bosses

[jovial juniper]

Depends on the situation
Sometimes the melee has to appear regardless of the build

[nocturne dust]

Inferno > EK > Voidstrike > Trauma

[strong gulch]

The times that I would use Trauma on a boss is if there is also a horde and I'm trying to burst the horde down, protect the boss killers, or blast someone out of a bonbon.

[zinc phoenix]

Potato today today

[strong gulch]

Twice today potato.

[zinc phoenix]

Twodayto

Hah 😂

[strong gulch]

[patent mango]

rogue trader will add new force melees 🔥

maybe force gs will be real but in a different game somehow

[terse wave]

So Electrokinetic, thanks

[nocturne dust]

[indigo plank]

I wouldn’t call my build melee focused but I have exorcist/slaughterer on my FS, so just decimating a pox horde with light attacks can quell enough peril that it offsets scrier’s

Sometimes I just get whackin and freak out for a second when everything dies and my peril suddenly shoots up to 100 lol

[vocal tendon]

how feasible is a hybrid build thats about weaving staff/blitz in between melee? I know its good with assail.

[vocal tendon]

F

[zinc phoenix]

this mfing ogryn got six wounds

[crimson wigeon]

Built different

[nocturne dust]

Sounds like gunker but you're taking a staff

I don't recommend trying to switch between staff and melee, staff doesn't really lend itself to being pulled out for swift usage

but should be doable

[brazen rampart]

Barrel him.

[elfin kettle]

Trauma is excellent for this

[vocal tendon]

What about flicker-fired purgatus?

I’ve gotten good results on damnation using purgatus as my ranged for cc before I go swording

[crimson wigeon]

my build is peril maxing I use the force sword with a staff and The throwy Rock knife blade blitz

[nocturne dust]

I mean you can probably use purgatus or trauma to great effect as long as you're even using them on damnation.

Though you wouldn't have a real reason to use assail/sword for the most part (excluding bosses on trauma and crushers on purg) if you use those staves, other than that you want to use them.

[tame venture]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046914150363844779/1307938853914415185/image.png?ex=673cc93b&is=673b77bb&hm=1a6457a7b22d04738badb1232e6a543d2429825cf79b6fd35e69316e633e44d1&

I ended up taking a quell cancel LMB spam staff on scryers gaze after mentioning it the other day, and I wasn't super impressed.

I didn't particularly feel like I was getting more damage, and the warp gain was absurd. And yes I suppose I had the 10 seconds of infinite casting but it always felt like tempting fate, and I didn't really have any reference for how much I could push it.
Honestly I felt like I could pump out more damage if I have little to no warp gain

I did just realize that channelled force and empyric shock both work off of the LMB and im curious how effective it is.

[wispy bay]

I go Sword Smite and Void strike. Sword to clear quick mobs, smite when tight horde then melee to finish, void strike to pick enemy and also clear horde from far away.

[nocturne dust]

Empyrich Shock is good for lmb spam

Channeled Force less so

[tame venture]

Yeah force needs both casts

[nocturne dust]

Like you can use Channeled Force but why spend time RMBing when you can just LMB more?

[wispy bay]

Void strike at full charge pierce almost everything, aside from carapace and bosses.

[nocturne dust]

Can't believe they released two nodes to buff the most boring way to play staffker

[tame venture]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046914150363844779/1307938854896013353/image.png?ex=673cc93b&is=673b77bb&hm=1a1b0a1d099e8035b303365e8ce0628157fc65c3aabf97f08d4bf493aa36cb03&

This build is what I normally use surge staff with, but it seems to do very well with lmbs.
Just trying to figure out if there's a way to get those, or generally improve on lmbs

[nocturne dust]

I would drop peril gen reduction on warp siphon and warp battery for empyric shock

actually wait

you have battle meditation

I'd drop that and peril gen reduction

but I would also take ER so 🤷‍♂️

[tame venture]

Er?

[nocturne dust]

empyric resolve

[tame venture]

I don't recall every abbreviation

[nocturne dust]

The -toughness gen node

[tame venture]

I haven't played with it and I understand it makes you kinda frail

[nocturne dust]

It does, but it's worth it.

[indigo plank]

It made psyker playable for me, and with surge it really helps you not just spend half your time quelling

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, EK needs it most

Trauma second.

[indigo plank]

Psyker’s biggest problem when it comes to toughness regen imo is that you constantly need to be doing things, so when theres bigger lapses in action and you’re not doing anything you’ll become fragile

[nocturne dust]

Voidstrike it's pretty beneficial on, only purg has low enough peril gen that it's whatever. It's still beneficial on purg, but DPS increase is tiny and you have to be good at managing peril to shriek off cooldown

[indigo plank]

Ogryn (can also just sneeze out a single heavy) and Vet can just hi five to get like all of their toughness back instantly

Zealot’s gotta mow the lawn so mindless gunfire/assail/surge LMB spam into pox hordes can hurt them in the long run

But as psyker if you just have a plasma vet instakilling everything and you can’t even fully charge your staff before they blow an enemy’s head off, all those little hits from behind will start add up because you aren’t just printing toughness by constantly quelling buttloads of peril

https://tenor.com/view/yapping-yapping-level-today-catastrophic-yapanese-gif-13513208407930173397

Forgive me

[wispy bay]

If you use forces sword, you can regen toughness anytime you want.

I mean, same thing with staff, just shoot randomly then quell it.

[hollow current]

rare three ogryn game.

[indigo plank]

Exorcist goes so hard

[wispy bay]

This is my build, really doesn't make sense for many people here, but it works well for me.

[wind spruce]

Your ability to generate peril doesn't depend on enemies being present at all

[indigo plank]

I mean you can just fire off projectiles into nothing or stroke your sword

[fathom adder]

Psyker with Blunt Gun and Blunt Sword is all the rage these days though

[indigo plank]

But it hurts when you’re not organically generating it just by playing the game

Because some weenie is playing the scoreboard

[wispy bay]

The more I use warp, the more toughness I regen, with or without* enemy.

[indigo plank]

Enemies within enemies without

Honestly the swap to gazer has helped because I basically always have peril to quell

[narrow lichen]

What are ideal blessings for a blaze force sword?

Thinking of Deflector and Riposte

[steel flame]

Which mark?

Illi really likes slaughterer, with uncanny or unstable. With diemos unstable+prcog can lead to some really good 1 shot breakpoints on its l1->H2 stab combo

Just avoid obscurus

[patent mango]

obscurus isnt real it cant hurt you

[steel flame]

It can't do anything better than illi or diemos and it's not even a good middle ground between the two because it's attack pattern is complete ass

[narrow lichen]

im not sure on Mark

[narrow lichen]

i'd like a mark good for boss/elite killing

[steel flame]

Probably go with diemos. It's h2 will one shot almost every special/elite in the game

But none of the force swords are gonna be stand out boss killers

You don't really want to special attack with it because it's l1 h2 stabs will do all the damage you need and you can one shot mutants with it with maniac and a bit of peril for unstable if you l1 then hold an h2 to headshot it

[zinc phoenix]

finally got the no take health damage penance. harder than i thought it would be what with all the barrels and things exploding when shot now

[minor wedge]

TiL about the psyker:

Empyric Resolve is a gamechanger without equal

I can almost spam my lightning staff now and dont immediately overcharge

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

[prime elk]

It’s very good on surge but otherwise ranges from ok to unnecessary on other staves

[minor wedge]

Its the psyker staff I enjoy playing the most ^^

Its realy realy fun to zap things out of existence

[analog agate]

Can't wait to use it again when they fix flurry

[prime elk]

Yeah my favorite staff as well

[wide maple]

Gentle-crazies. I used to play a memey crit build with the voidstrike staff and duelling sword, but my talents reset and I can't find it, does anyone have something like that?

[fluid thistle]

what's so good about the electrokinetic staff ?

[kindred edge]

Build for crits with it and it deletes most things really quickly

Plus good m1

[fluid thistle]

it go good with scriers?

seems like it'd be a nice fit for the Warp Unbound portion since it's so peril heavy

[kindred edge]

Idk, I only use it on my fully lightning-themed build. EK staff, EP Smite, shock maul

[wind spruce]

Best void build

[wide maple]

ty

[atomic swan]

Still suggest that go to build you own build again
since they are depends on playstyle heavily

oops wrong nod in the middle

[fluid thistle]

that sounds dope

[shell spoke]

Classic venting shriek is always good for staff builds. Gaze you’ll build peril so fast that you won’t be able to take advantage of the 20% crit chance and 10% damage.

If you’re using it just for warp unbound you’re better off using venting so you can at least get some cleave damage/stagger out there.

Gaze is good if you’re doing the M1 quell cancel spam build tho

[sturdy reef]

I prefer gaze with the electric staff

[shell spoke]

I can only get like 3 casts off before hitting 100 peril so the whole effect of gaze is kinda bleh for me

W/ electro staff M2 attacking that is

[indigo plank]

I use it with gazer. I see a lot of people use it with smite but I prefer assail

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d862d65-48be-4063-8de4-909f93207d21/surge-gazer?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button I think this is what my psyker has but I’m not home atm

[indigo plank]

Do you run ER? (40% less Peril, -30% Toughness Gains)

[shell spoke]

No that node kinda blows, psykers biggest strength is getting back toughness fast

[indigo plank]

I find it’s really helpful, and I’m still pretty much constantly generating toughness from babying scriers

[shell spoke]

Less peril = less toughness
-Toughness gain = less toughness

So it’s a double hit

[indigo plank]

Couple surges, quell slide into cover, couple more surges, each time you’re building more and more stacks of damage so you don’t have to fully charge into order to 2 tap most enemies

[shell spoke]

You can do that outside of gaze tho

[indigo plank]

That being said you can also just use scriers as a safety net and still benefit from like 9 stacks if you don’t baby it at all

Just enjoy the free 10s of infinite peril to spam surges on crusher waves, or assail/smite on other smaller waves

[shell spoke]

Venting has the same safety net effect but can give some stagger and horde clear damage

[indigo plank]

Shriek is great, I’m not arguing that it’s worse

Oop wrong message

[sturdy reef]

I dont really use electro m2

except for bulwarks

and maybe crushers if they are bunched

the strength with staff scriers

[shell spoke]

Ah so you’re M1 spamming? Yeah gaze is great for that

[indigo plank]

I use M2 pretty liberally, psyker gameplay is just mashing piano chords lol

[sturdy reef]

is you can spam scriers

yeah I am

so you can constantly have the active effects

[indigo plank]

It staggers big things for the melee users and has decent range, so anything that would have a health bar gets the zap

I’ll use assails for ragers and shotgunners, but gunners and other specialists get M2’d

[indigo plank]

With scriers up on minimum charge, it can one shot almost all of them

[wind spruce]

BB recon heavy sword psyker goes hard af

[indigo plank]

Based BB user

[wind spruce]

its fun taking it with scriers because my utility goes down to almost zero, lmao

all i can do is defensive/move tech and kill

[strong gulch]

The boss damage.

[wind spruce]

KR goes hard with scriers + burn

[strong gulch]

I'll have to give it a try.

But like you said, no ultility. I will have to actually get good at the game and dodges for once. 🥺

[wind spruce]

Lots of running away haha

Chopping the heads off ragers with heavy sword + thrust is so satisfying

[strong gulch]

I have not used heavy sword yet. Putting it on the list.

[kindred edge]

Oh man, the H1 on the mark IX is just beautiful

[tacit stump]

use it with special for armored enemies

[tame venture]

man, i just tried Empyric Resolve on a surge build, and man it's night and day for peril gen

easily going from 5 full charges to about 7

[nocturne dust]

[echo root]

I played Lightning staff without ER yesterday and it hurt

https://tenor.com/view/brain-cooked-gif-15579560126512497059

[wind spruce]

I've been using whichever mark it is that has a like a wonky horizontal sweep for h1 and strikedown h2. Feels pretty good

[wind spruce]

The carapace damage still feels super inadequate even with the special 😦

I haven't actually looked at the numbers though

[tacit stump]

well that is the weapons manko

[wind spruce]

True

As long as im not missing something haha

[tacit stump]

good horde clear and maniac damage though

[runic bear]

Any slug shotgun users here? :]

[thin finch]

just don't get hit

[jovial juniper]

Do you even have Surety of Arms + 10% reload perk?

[runic bear]

Can't remember my build outright :D

[flint marsh]

Do I need to run smite with the shock staff for extra damage?

[tired estuary]

no

[wispy pumice]

You chain one more lightning with the staff and smite all together, so if you want that then go for it but generally it’s not worth.

[compact cargo]

Ok hear me out

Thanks for your time

[radiant frigate]

this has got to be the most controversial talent on the list

camp A says it is a gift from the emperor

camp B says it's actively detrimental slop

[thin finch]

which proves that it is a good perk

[radiant frigate]

or the worst perk

[thin finch]

TBH you can choose to not pick it so I don't mind it and it's twin perk is okay

[radiant frigate]

depending on your PoV

yeah but unfortunately the "twin" does nothing

[thin finch]

either you pick it because you want to spam thunder for 3 hours or baja blast your staff full power , or you avoid it because you wants to be in the thick of thing taking hit from the back of your head and getting that toughness back in a jiffy ,taking it depends on your playstile and influence it

it's good

[radiant frigate]

and the fact that some, myself included, would rather get something that doesn't work (throwing the talent point into the void) is rather damning

[thin finch]

(true, I've read it and never felt the need to take it )

it's because it's detrimentale

[shell spoke]

?

[thin finch]

And you consider that the loss does not justify the gain from your playstyle or build

[wintry niche]

What build is this? 850k dmg fucks hard

[compact cargo]

Any news on when that's been fixed?

[thin finch]

don't pay too much attention , this is the usual " losing toughness ? just don'"t get hit" joke

[radiant frigate]

i consider both parts detrimental tbh

[compact cargo]

And another question spark heads, does Lighting Storm work on Surge staff?

[radiant frigate]

multiple levels of "fuck your toughness"

but i also do not subscribe to tbe fullcaster playstyle

[shell spoke]

Was gonna say I can try and sign a pact with the ranged lesser enemies but I’m sure they won’t respect it lmao

[compact cargo]

I mean we are psykers, we can really not get hit in melee

And min size psyker won't be targeted by shooters mid horde often

we can even hide inside ogryn whiel resing

[radiant frigate]

going to get shot? just say no
bullets cannot legally enter your body without your consent

[thin finch]

Yeah but you can avoid the "peril generation'" toughness perk if I just use the " warp kill" and the '" crit hit" toughness, so I am not impacted by the reduced peril generation depending on that build.

[compact cargo]

Talking about build, any idea if Lighting storm works on surge staff?

[thin finch]

It has use , and people find use in it, other consider it a detriment , so they don't use it, it's a build and gameplay defining build (because damn 40 a,d 30 are big number ) so it's a good perk

[compact cargo]

knowing fatshark it could and it'd be funny

[thin finch]

not in the sense "it's pure good and you should always take it" but in the sense " it has impact on your build , good and bad and makes you think about picking it"

[compact cargo]

For reference

[thin finch]

Back when I played a lot, it worked, now I don't know

Depends if it was considered a bug or not

try it in the meat grinder

[compact cargo]

Tried

It works but the damage is a joke

prob not worth

It gets funny with double lighting

but it's still "meh"

[shell spoke]

It’s really the combo of
Less peril = less toughness
-toughness regen = less toughness
That really sucks

[thin finch]

Maybe the extended spark is not considered surge but a smite lighting

dunno

[compact cargo]

it's still more damage than smite 173-210

[thin finch]

Yeah but as I said in the comment you're answering ,just don't take the peril generation toughness regenand pick the warp kill / crit and tougness quell only , you free one perk point (maybe for a toughness node to compensate ) and the less peril = less tougness becomes irrelevant

[radiant frigate]

I'm more talking about the toughness on quell

harder to get it to quell it if you generate about half as much

[shell spoke]

Direct impacting an enemy with a smoke nade does more damage than smite

[thin finch]

Then don't take it and use thsoe perk point somewhere else, unless your really want that 10% quell on kill .

[shell spoke]

It’s the on quell one that hurts it

Even then all your regen being cut by 30% sucks

[radiant frigate]

but then how will i gain toughness on demand when i take cover for a second

if not by making the voices go away

[thin finch]

Yes ,it's called a downside, and push you for a more safe playstyle,
I think it worked well on the build I made when I played back with my psyker, but I did not try it in Auric so maybe it's more dangrous there

[thin finch]

see I never did that so I don't care

[radiant frigate]

for me it was like half the reason i played psyker

[thin finch]

(it's a good idea tho, I will do it in the future )

[thin finch]

well then ,again ,don't take the perk , it's not that hard

[shell spoke]

It’s a decent training wheels perk till you get used to quelling at the right percent

[thin finch]

Are you so troubled with the idea that the perk will fit someone else playstyle ?

[radiant frigate]

troubled? no

i just don't think the gain is all that good because realistically you want to play at high peril anyway

[thin finch]

Indeed and you can decide to edge peril, but I like to enjoy my minus 15charge rate for longer on my trauma staff when I'm blasting that Crusher squad , this perk allow that

[radiant frigate]

so it makes it harder to get there, and i don't think you can get more casts if half the cast would have gone into overkill peril

only application is long smite, long gaze and casting from zero

[thin finch]

which are already three reason the perk is good , Well, the scrier's gaze "not blowing up" perk kinda do the same too but eh the longer,the better

[shell spoke]

If you’re learning psyker it’s decent. If you’re really proficient at psyker it’s bleh (with staves at least)

[radiant frigate]

sg already has three other perks to make it "longer"

by crack of bone, tts, warp unbound

depending on melee/gun/cast

[thin finch]

I respectfully disagre and will keep sloting the perk in some build

Especially Crit Build with AOe weapon

[summer prairie]

are we talking about ER again

[thin finch]

Eh, my first time having the talk, I did not came here in a while

[radiant frigate]

i respect your opinion

[steep estuary]

I wish EP was better

I just love having those 3 charges in my pocket

[radiant frigate]

i wish psyker was better (read: had force greatsword)

[steep estuary]

Oh yeah I'm with you on the greatsword

[radiant frigate]

class would be playable again

[steep estuary]

I mean, its still playable

[shell spoke]

I wish EP wasn’t a keystone in general

[radiant frigate]

it is but ever since i started playing sg i just kept thinking vet would do this better

so now i play vet

[steep estuary]

If it did more than just buff your blitz it'd be more handy, but then they'd probably make the charges decay.

Fair enough

[ornate hamlet]

force bretonnian longsword

[steep estuary]

I just let my tism drive me towards the space wizardry

[radiant frigate]

please

[radiant frigate]

the wizardry is my least favorite bit unless i can put the wizardry into a sword

[shell spoke]

Yeah a keystone dedicate just to the blitz ability is just pretty crap in general. Keystone should be something thats always coming into affect, not like 5-10% of the match

[radiant frigate]

preference though

[steep estuary]

I do like spellswords

[radiant frigate]

mayhap EP should be in the top part of the talent tree

around where the auras are

like grenade tinkerer for vet

[shell spoke]

A toned down version split between 2 nodes maybe

[steep estuary]

Increase the % chance of gaining a charge a tad, and just do it as-is as a regular talent, secondary node Increases the charges?

[radiant frigate]

or just have it be on elites

[shell spoke]

Something like that, it is just not keystone worthy. Like @radiant frigate said Vet had nade nodes all over there tree so I don’t see why psyker can’t

[radiant frigate]

no chance on others

[spice veldt]

vet's nade nodes are fairly generic

we can at least just add more extra nodes to our blitzes that cater to each specific one

[radiant frigate]

honestly a lot of psyker talents feel like they have a vet version, which is just the same effect except you don't have to jump through hoops and do a pirouette to trigger them

[steep estuary]

I could still see it being good as is for burst toughness. Toss out 13 assails in a crowd, 3 15% toughness for you and allies, and let the other 10 give the regen on warp kill. Plus in a large enough crowd you'll get a couple extra freebies easy enough.

[shell spoke]

Do X get X toughness back

[radiant frigate]

"10% rending for warp attacks if high on peril" as opposed to just "10% rending" is a great example

[shell spoke]

Vets are just weakpoint, elite/special kill or kill in general with out for blood

[radiant frigate]

or weapon spec, or "be out of melee"

[shell spoke]

75% peril for an abysmal 10% 🙄 could at least make it 20%

[jovial juniper]

Get 15 stacks of precision just to get out buffed by a Duelist IJ zealot

[radiant frigate]

zealot is another can of worms that i do not wish to open

[thorn cedar]

eh

we get the movespeed burst and toughness

not quite 1-1

pots is the only truly stupid one, also the weapon swap speed one

but wep swap is just shit anyway imo doesnt matter the number you put on it for Psyker

my buddy plays shotguns a lot and asked what the draw speed is, i told him and he was like "what the fuck is perilous assault for then?"

[thin finch]

I just want a pointy hat

[spice veldt]

yeah those left three nodes could use some work

[jovial juniper]

I think Perilous Assault was supposed to be cracked on weaving play style, except it's on the opposite side of the tree

[thorn cedar]

it also serves no purpose because melee swap is instant, assail and smite swap is instant, and the infantry guns are the longest draw time in our arsenal at a whopping 350ms

[spice veldt]

solution: give bolter to psyker

[thorn cedar]

kinda tho yea

give me back my vanguard

wep swap is such a boring node

[spice veldt]

ok crack addict

[thorn cedar]

its called METH dad

[mental rock]

what about staff swaps though

[thorn cedar]

.2s

[mental rock]

is it really slower than iag

[jovial juniper]

Someone's high on peril today

[upper sun]

i tried playing psyker after a while of not playing

i cant play illisi without the 10% attack speed node it just feels bad

[brazen rampart]

Yes.

Scrier's boltgun would absolutely mulch everything.

[mossy oyster]

we're gonna turn this game into inquisitor martyr with that

(and inquisitor martyr is based)

[jovial juniper]

Real

Whoever decided that Illisi should be fast definitely cooked

[tacit stump]

how does illisi work with uncanny strike

[plucky flax]

It's okay still not great against crushers.

[tacit stump]

i mean like you can use it like the vet shovel against crushers

[plucky flax]

Vet shovel does more against crusher with uncanny.

[tacit stump]

or like the dagger

dagger is fast but low armor damage

[plucky flax]

Huh knife has really good armour damage on crit.

[tacit stump]

illisi not?

looked at the lantern table for heavy attacks

[rugged halo]

with the right perks you can use the blaze force sword to hold off a daemon host while your team kills it

[mental rock]

this applies to most melees...

[sour nest]

You don't need anything other than the peril Block for that lol

[jovial juniper]

Illisi doesn't have strike downs but does have high finesse

[sour nest]

Easily doable with ds

[jovial juniper]

So stacking rending on top of that finesse and you're pretty much set against anything that rending works

[tacit stump]

hope we get other force meele weapon and staffs run most time with deimos around

and how manny do you see with obscurus

[radiant frigate]

doomed to obscurity

[patent mango]

obscurus isnt real

[radiant frigate]

obscurusus

[jovial juniper]

Fuck that little stab

[tacit stump]

?

do you think they gonna shange it one day

[patent mango]

it'd be so peak if force greatsword had a toggle warp mode

so every attack costs peril and is stronger

[radiant frigate]

activate Big Chopper Mode™

[tacit stump]

put it on illisi aswell normal one

[radiant frigate]

but what would you bind that to

another empower special?

[patent mango]

just special

force gs would probably have multiple marks hopefully

[tacit stump]

instead of one time it is a toggle

[patent mango]

one can have warp toggle

[zinc phoenix]

I’d rather have a moveset toggle

[tacit stump]

likely force gs gonna have bad dodges like most 2h weapobs

[radiant frigate]

yes i would like to keep the illisi empower but have deimos stab

[patent mango]

deimos coulda had a warp thrust....

[radiant frigate]

that's why we should give it a hilariously colossal parry

[zinc phoenix]

So the standard moveset for force greatsword has no fire and the lights and heavies are sweepy, you toggle it to the fire mode and it becomes very stabby for heavier stuff

Or just have the special be a force explosion

[tacit stump]

uppercut parry from ge buster sword

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-beric-game-of-thrones-go-t-hbo-gif-11408956

[patent mango]

lemme warp infuse multiple times then do the strongest slash of all time

[tacit stump]

what would be neat would be force bladewaves

[radiant frigate]

how fucked up would it be if it had a variable cast time

[patent mango]

forcelight greatsword

[radiant frigate]

put more peril into sword

oneshot crushers

(plural)

[patent mango]

its true

i think if force gs had projectiles they should be really low range

it'd be sad if it became another staff somehow

[zinc phoenix]

Ah yes the force wank

[tacit stump]

wouldn't mind it more shaff clear

[zinc phoenix]

Parry with a force explosion if the parry succeeds could be cool

[radiant frigate]

imagine you parry and you do not counterstrike, they just explode

[zinc phoenix]

Basically I want the force greatsword to be the primary and I want a staff that is more of a wand suitable for use as a secondary

[tacit stump]

beam staff

[patent mango]

imagine a wand for psyker lmao

[radiant frigate]

basically i want the force greatsword to be an entire loadout

[radiant frigate]

force laspistol

[zinc phoenix]

Expellium Poxwalkerus!

😂

[patent mango]

wand with homing bolts but it overheats lmfao

[patent mango]

its true

[tacit stump]

quell your perill

[patent mango]

i think force gs would have like 3 dodges tho

they could just give it a super strong push to help

[tacit stump]

would be neat if sharged up shockwaves would be vertical or thrusts with long range and you need to aim well while lights would be wide shockwaves with short range

[patent mango]

let force greatsword vertical specials cut bulwark shields in half

[radiant frigate]

let force greatsword cut reality

[tacit stump]

bullwark is dead shield is not affected

[zinc phoenix]

I don’t want it to slice armor like butter, I want it to be more like a traditional medieval longsword fighting style personally

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/vergil-sparda-vergil-dmc5-gif-26869378

[zinc phoenix]

So lots of sweeps and stabs and parrying

[radiant frigate]

force bretonnian longsword

(i still just want to give it a parry)

[patent mango]

maybe the light mark would have parries? idk

[radiant frigate]

(but on a weapon that doesn't suck ass)

[tacit stump]

maybe zealot normal greatsword then

[patent mango]

dclaw is fun but like

then i remember its dclaw and stop using it

[zinc phoenix]

It’s so good with kinetic deflection

[tacit stump]

tanking dh with dclaw

[zinc phoenix]

Parry spam forever

I should do a little dclaw parry action on my meleeker

[radiant frigate]

parry unblockables

nice stomp plogryn idiot

[tacit stump]

i hope we get new staffs

psykers have so much untouched potential

[patent mango]

force halberd 🔥

[tacit stump]

yes

wouldn't mind a polearm

[mellow stone]

Is the inferno staffs primary fire meant to be so weak or am I doing something wrong?

[tacit stump]

weak and interrupting

[mellow stone]

So how do you compensate for the low damage?

[tacit stump]

right click is flamethrower

[radiant frigate]

you use the flaminator mode rather than puff puff mode

it also applies a stacking dot

[zinc phoenix]

I would make the special on that a beam attack

[tacit stump]

puff puff mode is to anoy range enemies until you close in so they don't shoot you

[mellow stone]

Alr thx

[tacit stump]

or to hold hordes of while you run away

[thin finch]

We already have bolter at home
show void staff

[tacit stump]

do we neef a bolter if we have or staffs which can deal well with heavy armor units and even bullwarks

[patent mango]

yea

[zinc phoenix]

That’s certainly how I use it 😂

[radiant frigate]

voidstrike is more like plasma

[mellow stone]

Is empowered psionics good with brain rapture? I'm trying to get as much damage out of brain rapture as possible but since we usually clear the grunts before focusing the boss, there won't be any grunts left to recharge empowered psionics

[tacit stump]

we need a rapid fire staff

[radiant frigate]

most of your stacks come from elites anyway

[zinc phoenix]

You can rapid fire void by low charging the balls

[radiant frigate]

worry not about the chaff

[zinc phoenix]

Empower is bad ngl

[tacit stump]

... faster then m1 spamm

[zinc phoenix]

Mid tree is mid

[tacit stump]

shield dome

aegis protocol activated

[zinc phoenix]

Actively harmful

[radiant frigate]

potentially useful

[tacit stump]

why

[mellow stone]

Technically true

[tacit stump]

beside you have no venting shriek or scrier gaze

[steep estuary]

Sweep the leg

[tacit stump]

beside some see a lsd barrier

[patent mango]

middle tree coulda been melee

[zinc phoenix]

Because it is substantially worse than the alternatives while having a showy noob bait graphic

[radiant frigate]

imagine if the bubble was centered on yourself

[patent mango]

lemme cast a shield around myself

then give me melee bonuses

[radiant frigate]

and follows you

[patent mango]

its true

[tacit stump]

should be smaller then

[radiant frigate]

your terms are acceptable

[zinc phoenix]

Psykers who use it die constantly at high difficulty because it doesn’t solve any problems they actually have

If you know what you are doing it can work

[patent mango]

tfw dome doesnt give me a force greatsword

[zinc phoenix]

I use it to make me unkillable in melee

But it is still bad

[radiant frigate]

tfw there is no blitz to summon force greatsword

missed opportunity

[patent mango]

personal shield blitz

[tacit stump]

we have smite instead...

[zinc phoenix]

Power 🅱️enis next

[patent mango]

smite coulda been more shields

around the user

[tacit stump]

i dislike smite on other then gunpsyker

[radiant frigate]

instead we got surge staff modified into smite and brain brust modified into surge

wasted potential

[patent mango]

psyker has so much potential tbh

[zinc phoenix]

Smite is only good for fueling shriek with peril for more fire spam

[radiant frigate]

blitzes would have been perfectly fine as headsplosion, summon sword, and summon knives

[zinc phoenix]

It’s good at that but tbh there are alternatives

[radiant frigate]

and surge could have stayed surge

[tacit stump]

i use it to cycle perill on gunpsyker while gaze is on cooldown

[patent mango]

gimme an assail talent that makes it only 1 giant long lasting shard

with long cd

[radiant frigate]

comically large assail

[patent mango]

it'd be funny

[zinc phoenix]

Spam assail instead and you can do damage too

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/celestial-wizard-total-war-warhammer-comet-of-casandora-warhammer-total-war-the-empire-gif-15778052

[tacit stump]

only problem assail has a limit

[zinc phoenix]

Go back to gun when you reach it

[patent mango]

i want more limit for assail so i can go back to melee

comically large single assail would fix this

[tacit stump]

should oneshot crushers bullwark etc

[radiant frigate]

assail except you pick up a crusher to beat another crusher upside the head

[patent mango]

its true

[radiant frigate]

"beat a motherfucker with another motherfucker"

https://tenor.com/view/elf-nonsense-elf-frieren-frieren-beyond-journey's-end-sousou-no-frieren-gif-2308403050531304831

[tacit stump]

or like the oversharged gravity gun from hl 2

[patent mango]

i think force greatsword specials should have hilarious ragdolls

let me send the crusher into the other maps

[tacit stump]

let the ogryn or zealot have it with their blunt weapons

[mellow stone]

Is scriers gaze good on bosses? You can't prolonge the duration without kills so I'm wondering if it's actually worth it

[tacit stump]

you gonna likely have a fast shooting gun anyway which eats at bosses away

[mellow stone]

I wanted to pair it up with brain burst

On bosses

[tacit stump]

idk

[zinc phoenix]

It gives you more damage which is good if you want the boss dead sooner

[radiant frigate]

with warp unbound and kinetic resonance you can get a guaranted 10s of just bang bang with no quelling

is it worth it? Perhaps

would it work better with shriek? Likely

[zinc phoenix]

I do it but I am not using a gun so infinite uptime is not happening regardless

[shell spoke]

Yes, you’ll quell peril when you crit so you’ll be slamming bosses with ease

[wind jay]

Question: Does anyone know why, when holding smite and activating warp unbound, there is a chance to either have smite continue or be interrupted? I cannot replicate this in the Psykhanium. Online matches though, it's a coin flip as to whether or not smite can continue to be held with no interruptions when warp unbound kicks in.

[summer prairie]

there seems to be a random (latency based?) delay on warp unbound activation when playing on a server

so probably the same reason as why you sometimes explode when playing on a server but not locally

[thorn cedar]

Yes there's an issue there and no there's no real consistency.

Best you can do is see it's coming, release your Smite, and charge it again (which honestly you probably should already have been doing)

[jovial juniper]

Or just keep holding

Better safe than sorry right?

[thorn cedar]

Nah cause the outcome is an absolute coin toss

You're better off guaranteeing the knockback from releasing Smite

Cause rn maintaining Smite into Warp Unbound will either totally cancel your smite, not cancel your smite but break all your tethers, or it will continue no problem

And those first two are a problem

[gilded jackal]

Does Kinetic Flayer activation count for this?
https://i.imgur.com/squvgfV.png

[sour nest]

Yes

[rigid sky]

Man, I love that they actually made Kinetic Flayer not a total trap pick now

[golden moon]

i wanna rebless but all the blessing say "blessing not avaliable"

[rugged halo]

is there a good gun psyker build where i dont need to use assail?

[thorn cedar]

yea just spec over to BB KF or Smite

[echo root]

Did you not unlock them through mastery?

[jovial juniper]

Good? Hmmm
Probably BB Revolver gaming

You hunt them big targets

Perilous Combustion all over the place

[golden moon]

wait what i need to unlock it?

im new to the game 😭

[jovial juniper]

There's a mastery tab on your inventory, you can unlock blessings from there

[tacit stump]

lv the weapons

[golden moon]

ohhh ok

[jovial juniper]

Just avoid Terrifying Barrage until you can't

[rugged halo]

i was thinking more towards the bolt pistol

[nocturne dust]

Gunker really relies on assail for a lot, I can't think of any gunker build that would be good without it.

[rugged halo]

fair i guess

[nocturne dust]

Assail both lowers your ammo consumption and is your main way to do warp shenanigans, generating toughness and activating Malefic Momentum. It also benefits DD.

Without it, you would have major toughness generation issues on a class that can't handle not regenerating toughness.

If you grab BB or smite, you could try using Psykinetics to have constant uptime with Scrier's and generate toughness through that and Tranquility Through Slaughter/By Crack of Bone.

[rugged halo]

eh, i dont use scriers gaze

[nocturne dust]

Well, Scrier's is kinda the crutch that Gunker/Meleeker needs

Shriek without assail is going to mean you have to rely on whatever blitz you take to interact with peril, or bring a gun that reloads in a way that Surety of Arms works well enough.

You could use Shield to solve the toughness issue, but you would be missing out on a lot of damage potential and you would be risking being on cooldown in the wrong moment.

[compact cargo]

THere's cooldown between scriers?

[nocturne dust]

Well, if you want to use the peril gen constantly, the Lingering Effect ain't gonna help

and also the Lingering Effect lacks some bonuses, like the crit chance

[rugged halo]

ah, well. no need to play gun pskyer anymore. i finally got the last penance i needed

[vapid monolith]

finally praise be the god emprah

[jovial juniper]

Real

[nocturne dust]

what ultrawide madness is this

[vapid monolith]

5120x1440

samsung G9

[nocturne dust]

Dang. Insanity.

[zinc phoenix]

basically for gunker you need to cover three of the four: can opener, horde deleter, gunner deleter, boss deleter. assail is a built in no ammo consumption gunner deleter that can also manage specials, snipers etc. this allows you to decide if you want your gun and melee to be a can opener or a horde deleter. not taking it because you want to stand there and shoot lighting from your butt is silly

do smite surge if you want that

[jovial juniper]

Then you'd get access to the 3 keystones
EP for Smite
DD for surge (RMB can't target weakspot)
WS for whatever your ability

Then surge kills specials with ease and you stack WS

[buoyant maple]

2-handed force sword confirmed

@radiant frigate

[jovial juniper]

Kat wake up Kat

[upper sun]

KAT WAKE UP

YOU DID IT

[buoyant maple]

2 variants

[upper sun]

releases a psychic cleave >three stages

😭

finally

we did it reddit

a unique special

[digital narwhal]

I saw so many people talking about 2h Force Swords, and so many times I had to bite my tongue

I wanted so badly to talk about it

But I couldn’t

“We’ll never get 2h Force Swords” had me dying

[patent mango]

YOU WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT

HOW??????

[digital narwhal]

I’m a Playtester

[patent mango]

HOWWWW

[digital narwhal]

I was heavily involved with these Force Swords

I really hope you guys like them

[radiant frigate]

AYO?

[upper sun]

im happy we finally got unique specials

[patent mango]

i hope its peak

[exotic crane]

can someone link the patch notes?

[patent mango]

if its peak i'll tell ya then

[digital narwhal]

Trust me, it’s peak

[patent mango]

oh my god

[marble crater]

Are you allowed to talk about them some more, probably not right?

[digital narwhal]

No, I can’t talk about any more than what FatShark reveals

[patent mango]

fatshark locked the frick in??? holy hell

[digital narwhal]

I can’t discuss details of attacks, attack patterns, or the special yet

[spice veldt]

TWO HANDED FORCE SWORD WOOOOOOOOOO

IT'S FINALLY HERE

[digital narwhal]

The Pickaxes and the 2h Force Swords were labours of love

[marble crater]

That's fair, we shall wait then and thank you for the testing

[patent mango]

Heat Activation Mechanic: Generates a heat gauge, building over time. Reaching the limit locks activation briefly (overheat mechanic).

Special Attack: Sprinting Heavy stab attack for unique engagement tactics.

guys

guys its peak

[spice veldt]

it's peak

[patent mango]

guys we're getting peak

wait no

[signal adder]

peak indeed

[patent mango]

thats uh power greatsword

Two-Handed Force Sword - Unique Features:

Force Cleave: Special attack releases a psychic cleave with scaling based on charge power (three stages).

Smooth Flow: Psyker’s psi-assisted techniques make the weapon feel lighter and more agile.

wait

oh my god

i think it might be unironically

the moonlight greatsword

lmfao

[spice veldt]

whew

[patent mango]

wondering how smooth flow will work

maybe its just not going to be too slow?

[spice veldt]

yeah prob just a stylistic way to say that it'll be faster than you expect for a 2h?

psykers hitting the gym

[digital narwhal]

Smooth Flow just means it’s faster than most other 2h weapons

[patent mango]

wait

the hecking 2handed power sword

is zealot

lmao

[radiant frigate]

CAN'T BELIEVE THEY'RE FINALLY COMING HOME

[radiant frigate]

what

[patent mango]

but anyways

uh its zealot

[radiant frigate]

zealot??

[digital narwhal]

We can elaborate on the meaning of what these posts say, but we can’t divulge new information

[patent mango]

Two-Handed Power Sword (2 Marks) - Zealot: A massive, high-damage melee weapon with wide, sweeping attacks.

Munitorum Mk X Relic Blade
Munitorum Mk II Relic Blade
Two-Handed Power Sword - Unique Features:

Heat Activation Mechanic: Generates a heat gauge, building over time. Reaching the limit locks activation briefly (overheat mechanic).

Special Attack: Sprinting Heavy stab attack for unique engagement tactics.

says zealot on top

[radiant frigate]

fuck i might play zealot now

[spice veldt]

fucked up

[digital narwhal]

Zealot gets a 2h Power Sword

It’s peak

[spice veldt]

my psyker can handle the 2h power sword
he's hit the gym

he goes everyday

[patent mango]

does vet not get it?

[fossil lagoon]

2h force swords .... siblings ....... we won

[digital narwhal]

Yeah, 2h Force Sword is faster than other 2h weapons in the game

[digital narwhal]

No

Fuck Vet

[patent mango]

i c

oh well i dont play vet

[patent mango]

yo??

[jovial juniper]

Straw said they would make a post about the decision of not giving it to Vet

[patent mango]

i seriously cant believe fatshark locked in

[upper sun]

now a force dagger

[patent mango]

i c

its a bit odd vet doesnt get it but i can wait for explanation

[digital narwhal]

I don’t wanna toot our horns too much, but playtesters did a lot for these weapons too.
I can’t say much of course, or the sharks will eat me, but this was a group effort 🤝

[patent mango]

playtesters also locked in then

[digital narwhal]

(Of course the sharks did all the coding lmao)

But still

[patent mango]

lol

[digital narwhal]

:^)

[patent mango]

2 marks hmmm

[digital narwhal]

Surprised no one found the tease btw

[patent mango]

heavy stubber has 3

oh we did

[digital narwhal]

Oh lmao

[patent mango]

just had no idea if that was force or power

since its power in the extended customization

[digital narwhal]

There’s two swords in that image

[summer prairie]

no surprises there with the new weapons

[patent mango]

two?

behind the staff maybe?

[digital narwhal]

Top right

[patent mango]

oh lmao

i didnt even look at the other side of hte banner much

[spice veldt]

sneaky

[summer prairie]

2h forcesword seems to have a separate weapon mastery, so I presume a different selection of blessings

[patent mango]

oh yes it might have unique blessings

its so jolly

oh wait

it is actually called greatsword

i c

dont have to change name

[sturdy reef]

Force greatsword my beloved

[strong thicket]

btw guys what does this even mean?

[patent mango]

swap speed

[digital narwhal]

Yes

[patent mango]

it doesnt do much

[digital narwhal]

New weapon entirely

[strong thicket]

Damn that sucks ass

[digital narwhal]

So of course, different blessing pool

[patent mango]

oh god damn it is tenor dead

[patent mango]

i wanna see someone called ludwig using the force greatsword

[radiant frigate]

i think the chance of me not liking them is going to be damn near zero

BIG MAGIC CHOPPER

[digital narwhal]

I was heavily involved with them and I can say, they’re gonna be my main melee option

Replacing combat knife on Gun Psyker for me

[marble crater]

[radiant frigate]

the psyker class is saved!!

[patent mango]

psyker is REALLLLLL

[marble crater]

They had to release them after giving dueling swords to the other classes and soon nerfing them

[summer prairie]

psychic cleave soulblaze better be a thing

[patent mango]

hmmm

[digital narwhal]

No
We don’t want Creeping Flames 2: Electric Boogaloo

[patent mango]

wonder how the 2 marks will be different

maybe one light one heavy

[radiant frigate]

one will be choppy and the other will be super choppy

christmas is coming early, siblings

[patent mango]

christmas is now!!!!!!!

[spice veldt]

tragic 😔

[patent mango]

or well dec 3

i didnt even watch the trailer yet i am going insane

[digital narwhal]

Attack patterns, like the Pickaxes.
I can’t go into any details on how they differ yet, but it’s akin to how the Pickaxes are essentially the same weapon with different movesets for preference.

[patent mango]

[wooden solar]

so hey question for game mechanics in the lore:

what IS the Assail psyker power?

[digital narwhal]

I can say very little, but I will say what I can.

[patent mango]

rock

[digital narwhal]

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/burger-eating-frieren-frieren-beyond-journey's-end-sousou-no-frieren-gif-13425073513713719938

[patent mango]

its joever

gonna try to find the new weps in the trailer

i think they show the armor in it

[radiant frigate]

telekinetically throwing various objects at people you don't like

[digital narwhal]

Assail is literally just throwing shit at people
Actually forming the shards is something that doesn’t have much writing around it though; it does exist, but there’s not much on it at all

[wooden solar]

yeah in the TTRPG thats what it is and you use things like KNIVES, or random lug nuts you found laying around, WTF is THIS blue crystal shit?

[jovial juniper]

Hmmm
How strong will the powered sword be that you folks had to limit it with overheating mechanic

[vernal blaze]

it's probably concentrated warp energy or slag or something

[wooden solar]

theres a name for that: wraith bone

[radiant frigate]

slices 5 crushers in half per swing

[patent mango]

tbh if the sword is smooth flow

thats like some extra warp speed

[radiant frigate]

finesse greatsword

[patent mango]

ig it needed extra speed so psyker wouldnt instantly explode really

[radiant frigate]

flowy bladedancer psyker incoming

[patent mango]

bladedancer from rogue trader uh oh

[wooden solar]

yeah that shits called Wraith Bone in the lore.

[radiant frigate]

only 2 weeks away siblings can you believe it!!

[patent mango]

CHRISTMAS IS 2 WEEKS AWAY

[wooden solar]

so is this just a fat shark fuck up?

[digital narwhal]

It’s not that we had to limit it, but rather the heat mechanic is there because it’s interesting

Just always being able to power on is boring

Introduces a wavy gameplay, peaks and lows

[patent mango]

its peak

[radiant frigate]

so you be saying

the "build peril on every swing" thing that i was occasionally yapping about

is power greatsword

[patent mango]

lmao

[radiant frigate]

i'm not mad at it

i do not discriminate

i will 100% play it

i really like the sound of it

though it feels a little weird that vet does not get it

but i am certain there are reasons for this

[spice veldt]

vets haven't hit the gym enough

[radiant frigate]

(like for example, how do you make it sufficiently different from the already present 1h power swords without completely overshadowing them)

[patent mango]

yeah im expecting vets to be coping

[cosmic sigil]

Kat, you happy?

[digital narwhal]

Lore reasons.

something something extremely holy relic

“Peak of our armory” type shit

[radiant frigate]

holy power sword of heretic smiting

[digital narwhal]

Yeag

[radiant frigate]

i dig it

[radiant frigate]

Yes

[dense valley]

les fuccin go

[radiant frigate]

overjoyed, in fact

[dense valley]

we eating good today

[digital narwhal]

Chat, I shit you not

2h Force Sword is peak

genuinely peak

LIKELY… the best melee weapon(s) in the game, design wise

[radiant frigate]

god i hope so

[dense valley]

full melee psyker lesgo

[radiant frigate]

returning to psyker main in 2 weeks

(or zealot)

[digital narwhal]

You still have to deal with the fact that Psyker has near fuck all Non-Warp Toughness Talents

But it is good

[potent echo]

TWOOOOOOOOOOO

[late sapphire]

FORCE GS CONFIRMED????

[radiant frigate]

depending on how it goes

[potent echo]

HANDED

FORCE

[late sapphire]

UOOOOOOOHHHHHHHH 😭

[potent echo]

SWORDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH