psyker-class

[strong gulch]

Nope. I have 3 spykers and a zealot.

[broken carbon]

wow

lmfao

gonna kill u

[nocturne dust]

Unhinged

[jovial juniper]

Be me
Wholesome chungus
Vet takes MY ammo
Yadda yadda yadda however that pasta goes

[patent jacinth]

It was a zealot

[late sapphire]

this but with a knife instead idk

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/chandler-friends-matthew-perry-funny-kill-me-now-gif-13971350

[nocturne dust]

Hinged

[vocal fulcrum]

ty ty

why no warp siphon?

[nocturne dust]

Voidstrike loves and benefits from DD

[late sapphire]

wrong side of the tree, takes too many points, dd is better if all buffs apply, ws doesn't work well with sg

[vocal fulcrum]

aight

[patent jacinth]

Voidstrike is the only staff whose right click can headshot

[vocal fulcrum]

sexy

staff go pew pew

[vocal fulcrum]

reason for empyric resolve?

[nocturne dust]

It's very good

[patent jacinth]

Its the unhinged one

Its for less peril at great cost

[vocal fulcrum]

i wanna be unhinged

and kms to perils of the warp :')

[patent jacinth]

It'll let you keep scriers up longer and fire normally longer

[vocal fulcrum]

ah i see

u start scrier's at 0% peril right?

never used it before

[patent jacinth]

Hopefully

Or if you need an emergency 10 seconds of no venting right the fuck now

[vocal fulcrum]

only played BR + venting shriek + warp siphon with voidblast force staff

so gotta play around with this one to see how it plays

i can't send images? sadge

does shred on dueling sword carry over if i switch to my staff?

can i build crit chance with shred and then use it for my staff?

[patent jacinth]

Not that I remember

Shred is lame for DS anyway, you want Riposte

[late sapphire]

evil

though er and battle med should make assail almost free to throw

[nocturne dust]

It's good tho

[vocal fulcrum]

@nocturne dust could you send your staff and wep as well?

also what curios do you run for the unhinged one

double toughness + stam?

also also what's the dump stat on voidstrike force staff? i dumped quell speed for this build

not sure if right

[patent jacinth]

Blast Radius

(it only affects the end explosion which is worthless at 80)

[vocal fulcrum]

ah i see

[nocturne dust]

1 toughness and either 2 health or 1 health and 1 stam depending on preference

[vocal fulcrum]

warp nexus and surge for staff sound good?

[patent jacinth]

Yes

[fast prawn]

would love to see a new staff

maybe for the 10th anniversary or something

[patent jacinth]

Beam staff must return

[vocal fulcrum]

and perks?

ranged weakspot + crit chance?

[patent jacinth]

Flak and whatever else you hate most

[vocal fulcrum]

ah no crit?

[patent jacinth]

Weakspot and crit damage suck as perks, and crit chance is outclassed

[vocal fulcrum]

fair

[late sapphire]

flak crit is a good generic pair

weakspot and crit damage only apply to the actual increase brought by a weakspot and crit and therefore are only worth half their face value

[vocal fulcrum]

im so poor now :'((

gotta go actually play the game

instead of playing blacksmith simulator

spent all mi mone

[broken carbon]

3 clutches

3 games

lol

[strong gulch]

yip

[vocal fulcrum]

rookie numbers

go 3 clutches 1 game

jk btw

[broken carbon]

i had a game on chasm logistratum a while ago on 3veg maelstrom that i clutched i think 5-6 times on

and the team just kept wiping

all at the end

one was in the earlier part

[jovial juniper]

Chat your goat is washed

[broken carbon]

i killed like 5-6 bosses

[broken carbon]

im not washed

[jovial juniper]

Lmao

[broken carbon]

also

i barely parried that entire game

because you all

have so much stagger

that i barely ever have the opportunity

[jovial juniper]

I'm not happy with my performance today

[broken carbon]

lmfao

meh it happens

[jovial juniper]

I'll just blame desync

[broken carbon]

real

[nocturne dust]

didn't save me from my ability to not play vet 😭

[strong gulch]

surge spam

[vocal fulcrum]

does the 400 rating +3 max stamina curio actually give 3 stamina or do i need smth like 420

[patent jacinth]

410

[nocturne dust]

410

[patent jacinth]

Good catch

[broken carbon]

me standing in front of the maulers/crushers/bulwarks waiting for an attack and then youd surge them

filled me with

DESPAIR

[strong gulch]

My incredible timing.

[jovial juniper]

Crusher legit snuck up on me 😭

[broken carbon]

mustve been purple

alright thats gonna be my last for now

[jovial juniper]

GG

[nocturne dust]

ggs, I should also go do other things

[jovial juniper]

🫡

[strong gulch]

ggs and thanks

[jovial juniper]

Welp
Now that you're all gone
Time to be good at the game

[broken carbon]

boom 3 smite psykers

ok i have to go brag in zealot chat now

hang on

[jovial juniper]

(I'm one of them)

[nocturne dust]

lol, I felt my performance was very poor.

I'd like to say it was all lag. I'd like to.

[jovial juniper]

Grut me I hated that pox mission

[nocturne dust]

I wonder how good I'd be at the game if lag didn't exist.

Probably the same.

[broken carbon]

LMAO

that’s real asf

i got some clips i need to post hold on

[jovial juniper]

Relatable
(I really need to solve my Ethernet cable issue)

(it's been a month)

[broken carbon]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/j6g1VI79XoVqBj3nA?invite=cr-MSxYMzMsMjA0ODY2MDQ3LA

this was how i got trapped

[jovial juniper]

Get geometry'd

[strong gulch]

I swear the game has been worse about thing like that.

Not when the tox bomber hit me with a bomb and I died from the direct hit tho. That was legit.

[west flax]

oh shit, if it isnt my entire darktide career

[vocal fulcrum]

@nocturne dust you still around?

[nocturne dust]

ye

[vocal fulcrum]

isn't endurance (scrier's gaze) or perfectionism for disrupt destiny good?

endurance is like perma 20% toughness dr no

[nocturne dust]

endurance is bad because it is only active during Scrier's main duration and not the lingering effect

[vocal fulcrum]

ahh

that makes sense then

[nocturne dust]

so you get 10 seconds of no defense

Perfectionism is bad because of stack duration

each stack lasts 4 seconds

good luck keeping those stacks up

[vocal fulcrum]

also dumb question but how do you use assail exactly?

when do u want right click/left click

[nocturne dust]

Right click is mainly for distant elites/specials

[patent jacinth]

Right click is for sniping specific stuff and left click is for scattered shooters/hordes

[nocturne dust]

When you right click, it guarantees the first target

and adds a bit of damage in exchange for a lot more peril

[vocal fulcrum]

i just don't exactly understand how the skill works

the in-game description is pretty vague

[nocturne dust]

when you use assail, it targets anything near your cursor

vaguely

[patent jacinth]

(this is active tracking, it will follow your cursor, or try to)

[vocal fulcrum]

hmm sorta like the homing rpg in gmod

[nocturne dust]

The sharp rocks will go for heads

[cold cipher]

frank reynolds is here

[nocturne dust]

so it's good for weakspot stuff like true aim

[vocal fulcrum]

do i have to aim for heads or just in the general direction?

[patent jacinth]

They try to home on heads

just pick a direction

[nocturne dust]

just in the general direction, the rocks do the head-homing themselves

[vocal fulcrum]

i see, any way use all my assail charges faster?

[patent jacinth]

They don't have perfect headshot accuracy though, even rightclick shards can miss heads

[nocturne dust]

lmb is the fastest way

[mystic cloak]

sup yall

[patent jacinth]

Left click spam is as fast as you can get without tech

[vocal fulcrum]

no peril quel shenanigans?

[nocturne dust]

That would be tech

But I don't bother with trying to get it faster than lmb spam, it's already dangerous with how quickly it generates peril

Lag at the wrong moment can kill

[mystic cloak]

noob here, how good is gun psyker compared to staff?

[vocal fulcrum]

also also when do u use the charge on staff vs just lmb spam?

[patent jacinth]

lmb spam on VS sucks

[nocturne dust]

Not necessarily worse than the weaker staves as long as they have ammo, but harder to play.

[patent jacinth]

Except for like, a single low hp sniper or something, charge

[nocturne dust]

I don't use lmb on voidstrike

[patent jacinth]

Gunker can crank some insane boss DPS though

Evaporate a burgle with your buffs stacked

[vocal fulcrum]

oh

do u just hold down right click and then left click whenever

or do u full charge

[nocturne dust]

Yeah but that's about the only thing gunker has over staffker, and even then it requires Vraks specifically (or laspistol but I haven't messed with that gun)

[patent jacinth]

Especially because of Tranquility through Slaughter or whatever (quell 4% on non warp ranged crits)

Its a different playstyle that is quite fun

[nocturne dust]

It takes some getting used to, but eventually you'll learn when to release rmbs on targets to 1-hit them

[patent jacinth]

Swaps peril management for ammo management

[vocal fulcrum]

eww AMMO

imagine using ammo when u can use magik

[mystic cloak]

thanks king

[vocal fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-wizard-meme-funny-gif-3870502440791733376

what sniper sees moments before dying

[jovial juniper]

Perfectionism is good if you're insane like me (it's hotdog water)

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/spreading-misinformation-gifs-gif-11575348421930192102

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/misinformation-seal-eating-fish-trolled-gif-17343046025117458358

[wind spruce]

Yes you can quell cancel to shoot them faster. Lmb, lmb, quell, repeat.

[thorn cedar]

man, i love smite

[tawdry axle]

which combat axe is the best

[patent jacinth]

Rashad

and by a lot

[tawdry axle]

good

[patent jacinth]

Brutal momentum/headtaker + Flak/Unarmored

[buoyant maple]

Antax is pretty close

[thorn cedar]

yea you can ht + deci

[nocturne dust]

Antax is alright

[thorn cedar]

and warp splitter will get u 7+ cleave at full stacks

totally godlike and totally worth it trust me you wont regret decimator on Psyker with their meagre attack speed bonus

[restive kettle]

I swear to god penances are the worst shit ever, I cant for the life of me get a spot to knock 7 enemies off a cliff

[mental rock]

lol it used to be way more

be happy its now only 7

[restive kettle]

There used to be more enemies too

[mental rock]

incorrect

[radiant frigate]

it also used to have the condition of "by pressing f"

[thorn cedar]

i remember getting that one by accident cause i self-detonated on one of the rickety side catwalks super early in the game

in dreyko

"damn i fucked up"
"oh nvm im a genius"
the true mind in motion

[vocal fulcrum]

could somebody tell me how exactly Empyric Resolve works? is it similar to curios where it only affects coherency toughness regen or does it mean ALL toughness replenished (including from talents etc.)

[nocturne dust]

most toughness

[mental rock]

read the atheneum

[buoyant maple]

it's a flat x0.7 multiplier to toughness gains from talents & melee kills
does not affect coherency toughness regen
does not affect blessings' toughness gain

[nocturne dust]

Uuuuuuuuhhhhhhh I think it affects coherency toughness

I haven't actually checked blessings tho

[buoyant maple]

no

[nocturne dust]

You sure?

[buoyant maple]

kuli's guide

[nocturne dust]

Hhhhhhmmmmmmm

I guess another thing for me to test myself

[buoyant maple]

also imma just say
steam guide system is horrible lol

every single change needs verification process
constant "failure code 15"

[patent jacinth]

I assume this is why you publish yours on Word

[buoyant maple]

I am seeing if I can transport it to steam guide

it's proving really difficult

[zinc phoenix]

It really is. I make all of mine as basic as possible because it’s a nightmare

[buoyant maple]

also if I move it into steam guide version it'd have unironically like
100+ navigation indexes

because every single item in every single category needs its own index

[nocturne dust]

So I slapped a gloryhunter 1 blessing on 🅱️istol and it gives 16% instead of 18% toughness

[buoyant maple]

that's strange for 2 reasons

[nocturne dust]

Which isn't 30% reduction I don't think

[buoyant maple]

first off, not quite sure why it's reduced

secondly, it's far from x0.7

[nocturne dust]

Yeah

Maybe it's Psyk being weird

[buoyant maple]

I don't think it matters much in the end

nobody takes ER on gun psyker anyway

at least I hope not

[nocturne dust]

I mean, people rarely take toughness blessings in general

[buoyant maple]

I think gloryhunter is only rly worth for 2 guns

[nocturne dust]

Wait I reset my tree and now it's 18%

[buoyant maple]

ok so working as intended

[nocturne dust]

I'm surprised there's no toughness blessing on staves

[radiant frigate]

momentum for staff when

[narrow lichen]

I want the eletrokinetic staff to chain more than 1 or 2 enemies

[split lance]

Would be even more op than it already is

[thorn cedar]

it used to hit six people

back in my day surge was just smitelite

we were already begging people to stop surge spamming hordes

ah, better days

[fiery stratus]

Anyone wanna join for orebrick mael/qp?

[nocturne dust]

I can join

[fiery stratus]

@nocturne dust 69 got 1 slot

[split lance]

@lethal lagoon they’re in our vc

[strong gulch]

Ye. Took it.

[split lance]

[tame venture]

man, i got back into psyker after playing zealot a bunch to master everything

man i was playing embarassingly bad

and most of my equipment wasn't great either

[short lily]

Is empyric shock and the other perk not working with purgatus working as intended

[strong gulch]

IDK about inteded, but I'm sad it doesn't work at the very least.

[strong gulch]

From baby vet games. These panels are sus af.

[nocturne dust]

OSHA violations everywhere

[strong gulch]

Thems ain't RoHS compliant at all.

[steep estuary]

Bleh I really should sit down and get Malleus Monstronum one of these days

[dusk void]

Met this player today 😆

[steep estuary]

OOh cultured

[untold niche]

take differnt skillsets i feel.

with psyker you are more focused on playing the character

[tame venture]

yeah, i kept exploding myself with the trauma staff

[untold niche]

thats easy to fix
just make surewhenever you are about to fire take a quick glance to your peril
Even if you/teammate are about to die to an enemy attack

you want to practice the habit

[tame venture]

though i think that was the FullAuto mod making me do something a fraction of a second after i unpressed the button

[untold niche]

so its fine if you die like that

[tame venture]

yeah i played psyker quite a bit a while ago, so i know some of the skills

[untold niche]

also, most of the time its not worth exploding over saving your teammate.

[tame venture]

just haven't picked em up again

[tame venture]

https://tenor.com/view/dave-chappelle-chappelle-show-pop-copy-why-cause-fuck-em-gif-15886017

[untold niche]

nah because contrary to what some people say

darktide is not a team based game
( barring removing you from a net or doing objective)

all the regulars here would agree

[compact cargo]

Of course a psyker would say this

[flint pawn]

Darktide is a team based game in the sense of being forced to have one 👍

[compact cargo]

You can play solo and kill your bots

[untold niche]

not exactly, many regulars here run solo

[flint pawn]

mods and murdering bots not withstanding

[untold niche]

also i guess i should have used the work "teamwork"

[compact cargo]

Ain't really "forced" outside of been forced to mods till fatshark does what was promised

[untold niche]

also you should go look at agentchaos builds and gameplay @tame venture

[untold niche]

to be fair with trauma you really don't need your team for dps

[compact cargo]

Gunpsyker too, of anything better without team so you can hog ammo

[tame venture]

i refer the anatheum a lot for talents and weapon builds so i think that's not something i'm failing at

[compact cargo]

[compact cargo]

Anatheum may be a bit biased towards it's writers playstyles

[untold niche]

yeah pygex is knowledgeable
but in this discord prob agentchaos best at trauma

[tame venture]

ngl, i like being staff psyker because as vet or ogryn i like having them so i can vomit more damage out

[untold niche]

yeah i would agree

[tame venture]

so i like paying it forwards

[untold niche]

hello sir
i mean do you disagree xd

[compact cargo]

It's a great source of info tho and great work! Don't let my words mud it

[tame venture]

plus columnus IAG can get boring if that's the only thing you ever play with on zealot, veteran, and psyker

[nocturne dust]

Yes, very much so. Like, yeah, you can play solo but the game is vastly easier if you try to be cooperative.

[untold niche]

of course, but sprintign to take plasteel is more important than coherency

[nocturne dust]

Sure, but when the going gets tough the group gets together

[untold niche]

and again yo udon't need team dps if you are trauma user xd

[nocturne dust]

or dies apart

Eeehh, trauma is great and all but it's not going to let you solo everything without a lot of skill. It remains much easier to have a team.

[untold niche]

theres no real "teamwork" is what i mean
You don't really coordinate anything or provide support or whatever
its basically 4 guys individually killing stuff.

[flint pawn]

I need my team to heal the enemy so I can get higher dps numbers 🔥

[nocturne dust]

I feel like that's insanely false

A big portion of teamwork is positioning and watching backs, which you tend to get at aurics just naturally

[untold niche]

you watch your teammates back a5mael?
youa re a nice guy.

[nocturne dust]

Most people do.

[untold niche]

i mean if i see an enemy sneaking up to a teammate then i would help him out. i won't purposely look at him

Even if i don't a single hit wouldn't do much damage to him anyway

[nocturne dust]

Like, the missions that go horribly wrong are the ones where people don't and run off ahead.

[nocturne dust]

Sure, but it's just good practice to help the team not lose HP when you have no way of regaining it

[compact cargo]

Think running off ahead and failing is more related to kn*fe ear syndrome

[untold niche]

i mean i run ahead, but when im in shit i run back to my team
But running back to the 3 other killers isn't really "teamwork" imo

[nocturne dust]

I mean what do you want

[compact cargo]

That's what I mean, running ahead ain't that bad outside of ignoring triggers

[nocturne dust]

The ability to pick up your teammates and throw them?

[compact cargo]

Unless you are an elf player

[nocturne dust]

It is bad because people get dogged/netted/overwhelmed

[untold niche]

prob some coordination mechanics that both have ot play apart in. I mean thats the definition of teamwork right

[nocturne dust]

Sure, the coordination is positioning

You can have more exact coordination if you like.

There are plenty of builds that lack answers to X.

[untold niche]

which most of the time don't matter in a5maels because at least 1 person is going off for plasteels

As for builds, a good build shouldn't lack answers.

at least in dt

[nocturne dust]

It does matter though, and if the guy going for plasteel gets caught out their first priority is running back to the group

[untold niche]

as a decent player you shouldnt be banking on coherency buffs anyway

[nocturne dust]

Here's a lil secret: You can run bad builds.

[untold niche]

running back to safety, again the "4 individual killers"

[nocturne dust]

Lol what do you want, the requirement that to kill something everybody has to hit it first?

[untold niche]

of course, then you would be purposefully (knowingly or unknowingly) gimping yourself

[nocturne dust]

Sure. And?

[untold niche]

nah not saying that, don't put words in my mouth.

[nocturne dust]

I'm not, that's why I asked

[wind spruce]

This is extremely accurate

[nocturne dust]

and it was sarcasm too, smh my head

[wind spruce]

For future reference, when people phrase "questions" that way they're usually doing more than just asking

[untold niche]

it could be someone have a ability, anothe person has another ability.
Either explicitly or implicitly, when the abilities are used together, provide a multiplied value (that is NEEDED to clear missions)

[nocturne dust]

#psyker-class message

[nocturne dust]

Isn't that just non-EP smite? Y'know... the thing people complain about?

[wind spruce]

It's not sarcasm, though, let's be honest. It's using hyperbole to imply that the other person's stance is ridiculous or silly

[untold niche]

people complain about it not because it has teamwork synnergy but because the other person shooting might as well play kovaak's
Im sure you understand this

[untold niche]

this is what i felt as well.

[nocturne dust]

That can still be sarcasm tho

[nocturne dust]

Alright so you tell me what you want then because "abilities that multiply each other" is pretty vague. Give me something specific.

[untold niche]

but the way you are answering the convo makes it seem like what irosk said wasn't the main point, or at least trying to deflect it away.

You can argue on technicaliities / definitions but really it feels like talking to a 10 year old. I would rather much speak on the main "spirit" of the convo

[plucky flax]

Stop being selfish in war. Stay with the team

[nocturne dust]

#psyker-class message

[untold niche]

i think you pointed out something else that would force teamwork in darktide.
Making builds not be able to do everyting.

But to answer you specifically. not so sure, probably have to think abit. That said if i do give you an example, i foresee you just arguing about it, to say its bad, and then maybe to imply such things can't exist

[nocturne dust]

Should that be a thing tho?

Meaning should 'builds that can't do everything' be a thing?

[untold niche]

in terms of darktide? probably not.
But our original discussion is that darktide has no teamwork. not if darktide should have teamwork

[wind spruce]

Absolutely

[untold niche]

like i enjoy darktide as it is

[nocturne dust]

I think Darktide has teamwork though. Sure, not teamwork in the way some games do, but it has a lot more teamwork than still yet other games. It's all relative.

[untold niche]

and its subjective as well

Personally i like being able to do my own thing.
But having a teamwork based DT would be fun as well

[nocturne dust]

That's just VT2

[untold niche]

what kind of other games does DT have more teamwork than?

[nocturne dust]

Well for one, Warframe.

[mental rock]

More teamwork than vt2

[nocturne dust]

?

[mental rock]

Why are you questioning me, I'm right

[nocturne dust]

I don't even know what you're saying 😭

[untold niche]

but the design philosophy is much more different. in warframe you solo grind, jsut that they let you coop.

its like saying dt has more teamwork than call of duty deathmatches.
Its not a meaningufl comparison.

[mental rock]

Dt has more teamwork than vt2

[nocturne dust]

[untold niche]

whats that game that the dwarf shout rock and stone again? i forgot the name.

I feel that game does teamwrk better. e.g. only driller can effectively drill thru, and you might need to rely on each other

[nocturne dust]

I think that's completely unfair to dismiss that based on differing design philosophy. Also, Warframe was designed to be a co-op shooter (and fulfilled that design early on barring broken builds that got nerfed) it's just grown beyond that like a very old, forever-expanding monster.

[nocturne dust]

Deep Rock Galactic

[untold niche]

work done by a group acting together so that each member does a part that contributes to the efficiency of the whole.
Teamwork Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster

I don't see myself running back to my team in DT as "acting together"

I don't think its "completely unfair" either.
obviously if its a game not made with teamwork in mind then for sure its extremely higher chances that a coop game has more teamwork than such a game

[nocturne dust]

Sure, but it's not like I mentioned Skyrim. Warframe was originally a co-op game, and still very much is and can be. There are still frames that are mainly supportive.

[mental rock]

Give me back infinite invul trinity

[untold niche]

hmm then maybe so, i just had that feeling based on what i experienced in warframe.

I feel like if at a relatively high level of play, i could mostly disregard the teamwork aspect, the game doesn't have any/much teamwork.

like you put any 4 regulars of this discord into a game and each of them could be doing their own thing and still win a5mael --> say scab only or whatever harder modifiers consistently

[nocturne dust]

I don't disagree that DRG does teamwork better but I want to note that it comes at the cost of players often being pushed into 1 of each class per team, to the point where it's fairly uncommon to see duplicate classes even on matches where it's not required. I don't think that translates well to Darktide, because what you lose in DRG is only mobility/styles of movement (and shield in the case of gunner).

[untold niche]

its just an example, personally i don't want a case of VT2 either where i can't play my class as well

[nocturne dust]

I'd lag out and require carrying, lol

[untold niche]

ya of course i mean without like 300 ping

[nocturne dust]

Darktide servers are the real thing that makes teamwork a requirement 😭

[untold niche]

i found it impossible to aim voidstrike at 300 ping

btw this was on the twins

small arena

i missed eerything

was quite funny

[nocturne dust]

I can't even attack in some matches when the lag is high enough

seems to be worse on the weekends for me

[untold niche]

yo shoud get better network ezpz

[nocturne dust]

Just get the FTL connection

Wormhole from your house to nearest data center

[untold niche]

your country, doesn't have fiber optic infra?

[nocturne dust]

I have fiber

[untold niche]

that should be at least 1GBps right

[nocturne dust]

Yes

[untold niche]

how is that not fast enough :v

[nocturne dust]

That doesn't solve latency

In fact, overall speed does nothing for latency

[untold niche]

so you stay in a well, whats the word, far off place?

that is far from the DT servers

remote

[nocturne dust]

I guess far from the servers

I'm midwest US so normally servers are either far away near Cali or far away near Detroit or something

https://tenor.com/view/sad-fade-fade-away-disappear-evaporate-gif-16638726229780416323

[untold niche]

wait so how much ping you usually have?

[nocturne dust]

I think when things are going well the ping mod shows below 100?

I don't check it that often

[untold niche]

tbf i never explerienced say 140 ping on DT
But on other games 140 ping is still fine

[nocturne dust]

Or you mean in general outside Darktide? Cuz DT is the only game I lag on

[untold niche]

asking about dt

i live n asia, network gud

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-frown-gif-23008898

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, sub 100 is good, more than 100 and things start to get crazy very quickly

[untold niche]

shit no embed

[nocturne dust]

Grey name moment

[untold niche]

someone else thought i joined like a day prior because of grey name

i experienced discrimmination based on color

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/eggmansuperiority-superior-eggman-lythero-gif-26952516

[untold niche]

dr egg(? forgot his name)
is wearing red as well lmao

[wind spruce]

Wait who tf playing on 300 ping

[nocturne dust]

DT definitely has network problems

[wind spruce]

I never get that unless I'm playing on US servers from here in Australia

[untold niche]

me when i tried to play with agent :(

agent in EU

im in asia

so ya

haha

[wind spruce]

Ahh

[untold niche]

worst possible

[wind spruce]

Yeah it's so rough

Can't dodge the fkn disablers is the worst part

Oh and melee is basically impossible

[untold niche]

oh ya

[nocturne dust]

I think my ping on EU servers is where I start phasing out of existence even on good days

[untold niche]

just liek ur pfp

[nocturne dust]

I hate being unable to swap weapons most

The game should really just believe clients. Dunno why it isn't like that on a PvE game.

[untold niche]

i mispell like so often sometimes i wonder if anyone thinks i spell it ike that on purpose

[nocturne dust]

I thot you did

And I mispelled that on purpose

[untold niche]

the "i" and "e" is on different hands so sometimes the order is wrong

[nocturne dust]

Misspelled mispelled too.

[untold niche]

🤓

[nocturne dust]

this is why man invented the two finger poke style 🙏

https://tenor.com/view/twin-peaks-old-people-typing-one-finger-typing-technology-out-of-touch-gif-9186182

[wind spruce]

Feels sooo bad

[radiant frigate]

instant death

[untold niche]

i have been typing for like 1 hour

damn

time to leave server again

[untold niche]

oh ya, go check out tactical breach wizards

very cool game

[nocturne dust]

oh hey I saw that game

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-fade-fade-away-disappear-evaporate-gif-16638726229780416323

[radiant frigate]

perchance i might

[charred nymph]

question does block efficiency work with psycher's force sword's deflector blessing. If so is it still a good idea to take kinetic deflection node in talents?

[upper sun]

KD is always a good idea and yeah it works

[charred nymph]

ok thanks

[spice flame]

pretty flames with the celerity stim

[marble crater]

Disco end event?

[ornate abyss]

Time for me to get back to psyker again

I am looking for builds

on auric diffs

for electrokinetic force staff

for voidblast force staff

[wind spruce]

Yes, but if you have kinetic deflection you're better off taking stamina than block efficiency

[marble crater]

I use this with a dueling sword and blaze build for the staff

[ornate abyss]

Nice! What blessings/perks should I have on it

staff

[marble crater]

Crit chance and flak damage - Blazing Spirit and Nexus

60% warp resistance and rest maxed, in a perfect world

[upper sun]

😭 harvest is bad tho 😭

[marble crater]

I want the toughness

[upper sun]

get soulstealer 😭

[marble crater]

No

[spice flame]

your loss

[cyan portal]

Why?

[spice flame]

my man what are you doing on auric damn

[marble crater]

Because I have only been back for 3 days after a few month break and I'm still used to taking all the warp battery nodes

[royal granite]

what's the advantage of bolt pistol over revolver? bp's got a bit more damage maybe but it's so slow to pull out

[young spear]

this is my main trauma staff build. the knife is mainly for mobility and killing crushers/mutants. you can replace it with dueling sword if you prefer. you don't need lightning speed, i just like to melee a lot. spam ult a lot.

[young spear]

it has cc with lethal proximity and can one shot bodyshot on veteran w/ weapon specialist

[royal granite]

i guess revolver's still better for quickly popping specials

[young spear]

depends on your build

but usually yes, rev is the better quick special sniper

and better as a standalone gun with 0 need to build for it

[royal granite]

too bad, bolt pistol is cool

[young spear]

try it on vet

it's super strong on vet

[ornate abyss]

nice, thanks!

[tired estuary]

You can use a weapon even if there's an onjectively stronger one

[royal granite]

vet's got no mind bullets

[royal granite]

feels really bad to swap to it

[tired estuary]

Don't ever play ogryn or try boltgun then lol

[royal granite]

i mean it'd be fine on a class where i'm not constantly swapping

[young spear]

its good even ifyou're constantly swapping

but i agree its not as good on psyker

i only really like it for vet

[royal granite]

yeah it just feels bad, i'm really used to the fast swap speed of the quickdraw

[young spear]

its better than most guns

it's draw into hipfire feels nice

also because rev needs to headshot, boltpistol can just bodyshot

[radiant frigate]

no perilous combustion?

[young spear]

not worth the point investment imo

you can swap out lightning speed for it

but that 10% makes a whole world of difference for the knife

[radiant frigate]

i was going to say swap battle meditation

[young spear]

i mean maybe?

[radiant frigate]

quelling an average of 1% peril per kill is not fantastic

[young spear]

battle med lets you get one more strike in if it procs

but you get 20 kills in a choke from a single trauma blast

[tired estuary]

actually picking butthole meditation

[young spear]

i ran this build with perilous initially, but i like battle med a lot more for this build specifically*

[radiant frigate]

plenty of flames to go around either way

[young spear]

yea

ult spam nation

[radiant frigate]

chain reactions on elites are fun to watch though

[young spear]

its very strong

i like it on lightning or voidstrike more though

[ancient plover]

did they fix voidstrike now? havent played for a few weeks

with the surge blessing

[young spear]

worked when i was playing it, i didnt know it was bugged

[plucky flax]

https://youtu.be/Qn9nsqPCfEw

[plucky flax]

No combustion on trauma is kinda sus

[young spear]

ill try it again to see if it changes my mind

but i apply 3mil fire stacks alr it didnt feel impactful

[plucky flax]

Try kinetic flayer with it too.

It's soulblaze amplifier.

[zinc phoenix]

Fire from secondary sources tends not to kill things outright but it does lower their health enough to make it very easy to kill them in other ways

Fundamentally the game is about how fast you can win a dps race

Perilous combustion gives you a surprising amount of free damage in that race and it’s tough for other perks to match it

[young spear]

ok i get that but bm is just comfier and more fun for me

im a good player and i can manage without pc

ill try it out

[plucky flax]

Then fair. Continue with bm.

[young spear]

ill have to try it with kinetic flayer

oh but to sacrifice lightning speed

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-gets-flung-and-explodes-orange-cat-funny-cat-meme-explodes-gif-10706110874965244466

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-the-misery-oh-the-misery-everybody-wants-to-be-my-enemy-gif-25368312

[plucky flax]

Lightning speed is the weapon swap one?

[young spear]

melee speeed

[radiant frigate]

i have a mighty need
a need for melee speed

[plucky flax]

Huh I don't melee when I use trauma.

[indigo plank]

Lightning speed + malefic + exorcist on Illisi is basically a quelling stick

[radiant frigate]

nyoom

[indigo plank]

Just whip it out and start mashing horde, it’ll fully offset scriers buildup if there’s enough enemies lmao

Works with obscurus too

Just has a weird moveset imo

[young spear]

i melee a lot on trauma

on knife at least

lay em out then chop em up

or... poke em up i guess

[indigo plank]

I wish I didn’t hate the knife from launch

But I like big stik

[young spear]

staff is the real melee weapon

bonk

they call it trauma staff for a reason

[indigo plank]

Staff melee has highest stagger in the game

[young spear]

bonk

it has no cleave falloff too i think

[indigo plank]

Bonk to free Ogryn from belly of slug

[young spear]

thats insane

i didnt know that bit

can you bonk a mutant?

[radiant frigate]

perform the heimlich maneuver on bonbon

[indigo plank]

I use surge so I usually just

[young spear]

ill try kinetic flayer with perilous now

perilous by itself didnt feel too great but i can see the value kf gives

[indigo plank]

https://tenor.com/view/lightning-bolt-gif-10297555197318505984

[radiant frigate]

WARP LIGHTNING

[indigo plank]

Gazer surge with assail feels so good

[gilded jackal]

I was doing the "use ability to not explode" penance and it taught me that psykers have like 150% peril capacity, so you can be a lot more ham than you think

[indigo plank]

Kinda glad the psyker penances don’t suck too hard, they just get you to try stuff

[young spear]

remember kill 3 elites with one perils of the warp

i member

[gilded jackal]

I absolutely hate it when games force you to play badly to unlock stuff.

It's so fucking stupid.

[indigo plank]

Unfortunately that’s a lot of DT penances still

Zealot loner penance is just

Ugh

[young spear]

a lot of them have been remedied

[indigo plank]

Yeah, it used to be much much worse for all classes

[young spear]

but some of them are still pretty bad lol

[indigo plank]

Psyker used to be horrid

[young spear]

well granted

the loner penance wasnt that bad unless u got walloped by urself

coherency bonus isnt that huge and the loss of one aura isnt that bad

[indigo plank]

It just takes ages because it has so many situational factors

[young spear]

it was like backstab shooters right?

[indigo plank]

God forbid the enemy gets staggered or something last second

[indigo plank]

“200 ranged enemies with backstab while not in coherency using loner”

[young spear]

this one only took me like 6 games i think

it wasnt that bad

knife made it so easy

[radiant frigate]

it could have been kill things out of coherency

it could have been kill ranged things out of coherency

[indigo plank]

Ranged Enemy ✅
Backstab ✅
Nobody runs up ✅

[radiant frigate]

it could have been backstab things out of coherency

but it had to be all of them

[young spear]

yeah i can see what u mean

[indigo plank]

Quickplay into match with recon las psyker and bolter vet

[young spear]

i did a lot of it with my buddies who let me dive

so i didnt have to worry about the coherency portion

[indigo plank]

That’s lovely

There’s also the factor of just trying to make sure blueberries don’t die

I’ve left a veteran for exactly 3 seconds to kill a sniper and he got trapper’d

[young spear]

😭

[indigo plank]

I watched the recording and counted

[young spear]

the trapper was waiting for the opening

[indigo plank]

https://streamable.com/rxyvor

[radiant frigate]

when you look away from one psyker for 2 seconds to go save another psyker and the first psyker immediately falls over in that timeframe

[indigo plank]

Warped his pants

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-emoji-gif-25749073

[indigo plank]

Happens to the best of us

[young spear]

did they nerf mk3 knife special attack h1 spam

i swear half the time it doesnt register now if you special attack a frame too early

grahh

[radiant frigate]

punch stab punch stab punch stab

clearly you need more knife

alternate your stabbin'

[upper sun]

why is psyker chat talking about zealot while zealot chat is talking about psyker 😭

[young spear]

people jus be talkin

[radiant frigate]

loremaster channel

to understand the great mystery, one must study all its aspects

zealot chat is just following the old saying "know thy enemy"

[marble crater]

[young spear]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-gets-flung-and-explodes-orange-cat-funny-cat-meme-explodes-gif-10706110874965244466

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/dungeon-meshi-izutsumi-yap-yapping-fast-gif-101382879199063858

[young spear]

i wish i could put gloves on this coat

[upper sun]

psyker chat = a thousand sons
zealot chat = space wolves

[radiant frigate]

space cats more like

meow be upon ye

[young spear]

itsuzune

[upper sun]

@mossy oyster = the weirdmaster traitor

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/izutsumi-dungeon-meshi-marcille-gif-16212433433201351770

[young spear]

this is awesome

[radiant frigate]

hell yeah

[digital hill]

That hat. That drip.

Need.

[flint pawn]

The four Psyker fashions:
Yeehaw
Homeless
Mostly typical/expected Psyker attire
"Do you have games on your auspex?"

[young spear]

yeehaw

[digital hill]

Excon is what I go for.

And I mean, he has a cape

Who else has a cape? The people in charge. Something to keep in mind.

[mossy oyster]

i like to think of my soyker like this (cause hes a gunker)

thats what im aiming for anyway with his look

[young spear]

i just ran the most chill auric damnation

we clocked in at 18 minutes

[gilded jackal]

I currently landed on using the pyro staff for killing most things, and the brain buster blitz for killing elites from a range, but I have no idea what to do with my melee weapon since I don't use it most of the time

any suggestions?

[digital hill]

Blaze sword is your destiny.

[gilded jackal]

What do I use it for?

[radiant frigate]

sword purposes

[digital hill]

Well, the force push has a great stagger. It synergizes with kinetic flayer, so even just pushing can brain burst. It's considered a weak spot attack for True Aim if you have that. Uh. You can use it to deflect ranged attacks with a blessing, and can exchange peril for stamina. Listen, yes.

That

[gilded jackal]

Alright, gotcha

[marble crater]

Or dueling sword for poking big boys in the head

[digital hill]

https://tenor.com/view/jaime-lannister-draw-sword-sword-aight-bet-gif-24683366

That's how people react when a psyker pulls out a blaze sword.

[marble crater]

Ah back when the show was great, good times

[digital hill]

Right?

Such a great scene.

[gilded jackal]

I was using duelling sword until now just to dodge real good when I needed to dodge

Is Puppet Master any good? It feels like it would be really good or worthless, but I can't figure out which.

[marble crater]

It has great mobility, yes. Can also use it to kill mutants, maulers and crushers quickly, mostly crushers and mutants if you use pyro

[radiant frigate]

worthless imo but some people say it is good

[young spear]

i agree, i think puppet master is p worthless

[radiant frigate]

"but think of how coherency is a chain and now you can have auras and regen in a much bigger radius"

if i get coherency, i get it, if not, then not

simple as

[marble crater]

Coherency is a chain?

[radiant frigate]

Yes

[young spear]

yeah

you can daisy chain coherency which is nice

[radiant frigate]

so if you have 4 people that are 8m away from each other

everyone has full coherency

like 1 ------ 2 ------ 3 ----- 4

[marble crater]

Huh

[radiant frigate]

as opposed to
2
1 3

4

[marble crater]

I always thought each person had to be in range of the others

[radiant frigate]

you'd think but no

[marble crater]

Was it always like this?

[young spear]

afaik yes

[radiant frigate]

so i'm told

[young spear]

ive never struggled with coherency and i think thats why

great game design 👍

[marble crater]

My Darktide playtime is a lie

[upper sun]

path told me if one person is in for himself both are in

[radiant frigate]

i've never struggled with coherency because i decided not to care about it

[young spear]

i dont care either

the toughness regen is not amazing

and no aura is worth bad positioning

[radiant frigate]

of course The Before Times™ were a mess, when it was one of like 2 toughness sources

[young spear]

except maybe psyker auras

true

[marble crater]

I think the only time I really cared about it was when I did the loner aura penance for zealot

[radiant frigate]

and entrenched mini shooters were your worst nightmare

[young spear]

i was the entrenched mini shooters worst nightmare

[radiant frigate]

me when i explode their heads with my mind one by one because otherwise i will bleed out and die to chip damage

[young spear]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-gets-flung-and-explodes-orange-cat-funny-cat-meme-explodes-gif-10706110874965244466

[radiant frigate]

very long and very annoying process

[young spear]

the shooter in question

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/tenacious-the-metal-jack-black-tenacious-d-the-metal-head-explode-gif-17925027

we do this x20 because it is the safest option

lore accurate cast time

[young spear]

grah i hate lights out

died to a rager in the dark during a clutch because i didnt ping it before rescue 😭

4hp chip damage

[marble crater]

I love lights out

You are a psyker, make your own light

[radiant frigate]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/134100084554989568/1096857798815518880/Sequence_01_1.gif

[young spear]

its just bad qol

not seeing anything isnt fun

[radiant frigate]

imagine ressing someone when you start hearing the unseen crusher overhead

we go "splat" together now

[exotic crane]

I am trying to play the voidblast build on auric right now and I don't understand how to not die from gunfire

[young spear]

climbing has been so buggy lately

[exotic crane]

the toughness regen is basically nonexistent when there's nothing to kill

[young spear]

ive been getting stuck on everything ive tried to climb or just not climb it at all

[young spear]

do you have the two middle toughness regen talents?

you can generate toughness by just doing anything peril related

makes you insanely tanky

or have insane sustain rather

[exotic crane]

it's nowhere near enough

no freaking way

[mental rock]

Lol, lmao even

I can use just quietude and still have toughness to spare

[young spear]

well it'll let you avoid chip damage but if you're getting gunned down your positioning might be off

abuse slide

[exotic crane]

if I stay behind cover I can't kill anything bc voidblast has no range

[young spear]

peek and dodge into cover

use brainburst if theyre far

[spice veldt]

take bubble if nothing else

otherwise, spamming dodge helps if you're not doing that

[elder patio]

Can we respec mastery points of a weapon?

[spice veldt]

or run assail with it

[young spear]

mastery is permanent

[exotic crane]

I am, it's not enough. I can kill one enemy at a time, but there's 5 gunners shooting + 2 snipers

[young spear]

dont peek the gunners

find a way closer

[spice veldt]

if it's that then brainburst also works

[young spear]

so u can cc them

or shriek em

[elder patio]

why x.x

[marble crater]

You shriek at the source of the gunfire and they die

[blissful solar]

because you just need to keep going and eventually you'll have everything anyway

you also gotta sorta spend some points on things you may not really want anyway

[elder patio]

Got it thanks

[radiant frigate]

i like to use assail for this purpose

or shriek yes

[exotic crane]

okay, maybe it was the map and a bad team idk
did well on relay station, even got top damage

but fuck me it dies so fast if I make a mistake

[young spear]

ok sorry i was in a game, i can give u a better response now.
u really dont want to face gunners head on. you have good staying power, but u cant facetank like an iron will vet.
take good cover and poke your head out to slam some cc into the gunners. a small blast should be enough to flinch them and make them stop shooting
spam dodge-slide or sprint slide to a better position if you see a a bunch of gunners. sliding is your absolute best friend against shooters if you get stunlocked, try to dodge and slide since you wont be able to start sprinting.
i like to have knife for mobility and as my defensive option when i get caught out of position.

[exotic crane]

thank you

[young spear]

shriek if you have to. your ult comes up in like 15s or less if you're playing optimally so you might as well let it rip as much as possible

[exotic crane]

another thing also, when I release the blast, there is a significant slowdown, is there a trick to circumvent that?

[young spear]

switch to your melee

it cancels the fat slowdown of the blast and you can immediately start sprinting

[exotic crane]

cool, I'll try it

[young spear]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/952346886638034984/1306880316274774026/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2024.11.12_-_19.06.34.13.Dvr.mp4?ex=673ae9a4&is=67399824&hm=63f9952abc431d01d3126b84b78b090a1e9a94c8d6e741e7bca2a7cd4a6f0cbc&

i also love knife for this bc of the psycho sprint

you can stay super mobile with all the staves if you get good at weaving slides between casts

but yeah i have that clip because my friend hated all the staves for how much they slowed you down :p

they only slow you down if you dont take advantage of how busted sliding is

[exotic crane]

I slide all the time yeah, but I think because the initial sprint is so slow (after the explosion), the slide doesn't go as far or at least it feels that way

[digital hill]

if anyone has issues with audio clipping, the experimental branch seems to be working well for those issues.

[young spear]

yeah you cant immediately sprint because of the super slowdown of casting

if you dont want to switch to your melee you can turn and dodgeslide instead

or rock the blessing that reduces the slowdown

[radiant frigate]

maybe i should play my illisi voidstrike special™ again

[young spear]

i heard they nerfed illisi special spam

[digital hill]

That's what ive been doing! I had no diea illisi behaved differently with the warp charge

[young spear]

that build was so fun

lawnmower

[young spear]

does it?

ive not heard about

[radiant frigate]

differently from the other force swords i suppose

[digital hill]

Well, with the other models if you charge and attack it traps you in an animation.

[radiant frigate]

empowered illisi just turns into the slicinator 9000 for one swing

[digital hill]

yeah like super cleave

[radiant frigate]

like psword

but without power cycler

(and also considerably better performance unpowered)

[young spear]

ohhh you mean the special action

i thought you meant with warp charges lol

[radiant frigate]

also lawnmowing is still in the cards

[young spear]

i love the illisi special

bloodthirsty illisi headchoppa

[radiant frigate]

fwoom

[young spear]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-gets-flung-and-explodes-orange-cat-funny-cat-meme-explodes-gif-10706110874965244466

[radiant frigate]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/653799011676979200/804606130672238612/cat_gets_splash_stupid_idot.gif

[ashen trellis]

I had the same problem as you that I fixed by simply using DS or a knife

[spice veldt]

the only thing i'm aware of is changing the illisi special activation so that it can't be spammed as quickly to generate peril

[radiant frigate]

which has since been un-changed

[spice veldt]

oh neat

[radiant frigate]

you may once again whisper to your sword to make the voices louder

[ornate hamlet]

Dum-dum/infernus best in slot for accatran recon-las?

[ornate abyss]

crit chance on the staff? shred and carapace on the DS?

[digital hill]

Servers being weird?

[radiant frigate]

Yes

[plucky flax]

Yes.

[ornate abyss]

mmhmmm

idk

[plucky flax]

You can run whatever you want of course.

[upper sun]

infernus is kinda the best option for a second blessing

second best is what raking and run n gun

[ornate abyss]

but is it necessary to reach breakpoints and such?

or is it just down to preference here?

[fresh reef]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/s/Xq2otvSDSa

Please help me understand redditors

I don't get what I'm doing wrong but apparently I don't know the basics at 1500 hours

[ornate hamlet]

I'll Try it, thank you

[mossy oyster]

anyone have the name for disrupt destiny

(in buff hud improvements)

i wanna make sure it shows up (the stacking)

[spice veldt]

should cut down the search if you enter 'psyker'

[fresh reef]

@spice veldt please advise

[spice veldt]

hmmm

step 1: head meet brick wall

step 2: repeat step 1

[plucky flax]

It's to proc blazing spirits more.

[mossy oyster]

i got it

just had to do psyker_marked

for a quick list

[lofty marsh]

Holy fuck, dueling sword is insane on zealot

Easily best weapon

oh, I'm red now

[digital hill]

I did it. I did a damnation!

[slate oasis]

anyone who fills their message with "😂😂😂" is intentionally being condescending and obnoxious and should be ignored completely

[upper sun]

😂 😂 😂

[marble crater]

Well, you didn't play how they want you to play. How dare you?

[fresh reef]

They have over 30 comments on reddit in the past day complaining about people using smite in Auric

Yet the best he can do is true solo standard Damnation

lol

[real temple]

Took a long break from the game, can someone recommend me a spoonfed build/weapon guide for psyker

I used Aetherium previously but it seems like it's not completely up to date?

[fresh reef]

The classic redditor backpedal

[fresh reef]

Post your build and we will spoon feed you

[marble crater]

When did you play last? I also came back a few days ago and from what I can say it's mostly the same really

[real temple]

before itemisation or talent reworks

so my stuff is reset

and i wanna know what to craft

I'd more like to know meta builds and weapons

and then I can tweak it to preference

[marble crater]

For any staff or build specifically?

[real temple]

Assail

And Purgation/ Electrokinetic staffs

[quartz barn]

apparently the boss at the end of the train mission isnt coded as a boss, but as a regular captain

melee elite

[marble crater]

Maybe something like this for Assail?

[cosmic sigil]

That's max cleave assail no?

[thorn cedar]

too much cleave assail

[echo root]

Run and slide at them

They cannot hit you

[marble crater]

Maybe, just saw that warp splitting works for assail and it sounded nice to have more cleave. I didn't play it yet so it might very well be too much cleave and is not needed at all
But I will try it later, because it just sounds fun

[spice veldt]

stacking cleave for assail is not totally unnecessary since you can ration out each shard more if you don't mind weaving it into melee and whatnot

[cosmic sigil]

Plus puncture on the bolt pistol

You're like a shredder nade

[fresh reef]

I was doing that

deflector covers the time inbetween slides

[echo root]

Deflector is just noob bait imo

There are very few situations where it's worth it to hold block over killing stuff

Excluding situations where you have a boss / deamonhost on you

[exotic crane]

I just don't understand why you'd need +9 stamina

with +3 stamina and kinetic deflection I can block 5 ragers for ages

[flint marsh]

Thats very specific

[real temple]

on this note
can I ask for like a youtube channel or some written guide that's generally in good standing

and up to date builds/guides

[exotic crane]

that's just an example of extreme dps intake

and you're not gonna just stand there taking hits in an actual game

and obviously +9 stamina means that every time you aren't blocking your curios do jackshit

[late sapphire]

check pins

[flint marsh]

I never arged against

Just found curious the fact 5 ragers seems to be the limit

[late sapphire]

Given the enemy positioning system it more or less is melee wise

[exotic crane]

no, I just spawned 5 ragers and saw how long I could tank them without moving with 1 stam curio

[flint marsh]

Lets fill all 8 slots with ragers

Lets put that dude's +9 stamina to the test

[late sapphire]

If you grab +9 stam, deflector, kd, er and so on you can reach, what, 100 effective stamina for blocking

But it's overkill imo

[real temple]

Atheneum isn't up to date

[late sapphire]

It's only partially out of date

[ashen trellis]

you have builds here https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds?sort=relevant&class=2e785dba-f1bf-4b88-adf4-7e6b40592fca

[late sapphire]

No

Gameslantern builds are almost exclusively bad

Same with youtube it's slop for mass consumption

Just go off of the pygex guide and ask here for anything else

[tired estuary]

atheneum is p biased and v out of date considering psyker tree got a bunch of shit added to it

[ashen trellis]

they provide what he's asking for, a written guide with an example of gameplay

[late sapphire]

does this look like a build made before the recent update?

it's in the guide

Pygex isn't done yet but it's almost there

[late sapphire]

Yeah but usually dogshit in both lol

[tired estuary]

oh it did get updated my b lol OOPS

[cosmic sigil]

It's still biased

[steel flame]

The information in the anatheum is up to date. His builds are fine if not updated but I still prescribe not looking at builds when trying to do new stuff

[tired estuary]

yeah I hadn't checked it in a while, its on me lol

[zinc phoenix]

i have saved my build and provided notes on it. it is honestly stupid fun to play https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9d8315db-bcbb-41ad-ab18-3ddea22bf668

[gilded jackal]

https://i.imgur.com/4bgHPud.png

what does this mean?

[exotic crane]

your warp attacks get better vs armor at above 75% peril

[gilded jackal]

gotcha

[spice flame]

Isn't the talent that doesn't really work ?

[analog agate]

Yep

[jovial juniper]

It was working with Soulblaze iirc

[compact cargo]

Spark heads

What dump stat for non-flashbang staffs?

I share rashon if answer

[marble crater]

Dump stat for all staves is warp resistance

[compact cargo]

[echo root]

Not for m1 spam elektro?

[marble crater]

So not for one specific build?

[jovial juniper]

Inferno can dump damage

Unless you want blaze away

[zinc phoenix]

It means “don’t take this garbage ability”

[fringe garden]

And you do obviously want Blaze Away, yeah? It's pretty dope

[rich spindle]

I haven’t done any testing with how blaze away affects ttk I’ve just been using it because it sounds good

And things seem to be dying faster than before

[echo root]

You take it to not get empyric since empyric lowers your dps

[zinc phoenix]

🤢

[late sapphire]

Except for voidstrike...

[fringe garden]

Empyric only lowers your DPS if you suck at edging, really.

[zinc phoenix]

You can edge peril 40% better with ER

[rich spindle]

I like ER with the surge staff

[marble crater]

True, my least used staff and I forgot about wanting low blast radius on that one

[fringe garden]

It seems insane to me to not take Empyric on any staff

[late sapphire]

You should use it more it's great

Empyric is just good if you're there anyways

[rich spindle]

I wouldt take it on purg

[compact cargo]

flamer moment

[gilded jackal]

Penetration of the Soul is not something I want, especially if it's broken, but the other passive is not something I want either

since I want to vent often

[rich spindle]

I want high peril on demand for shriek

[compact cargo]

Is it that bad?

[jovial juniper]

Pots working with Soulblaze iirc

[late sapphire]

On purg yeah you wouldn't take it

[late sapphire]

It doesn't work

[zinc phoenix]

It doesn’t work and even if it didn’t work it’d be bad

[compact cargo]

So I'm indeed not a crazy ogryn

It does 0 for damage

[late sapphire]

%rending scaling with peril would be good, 'above 75%' sucks

[compact cargo]

Not that bad with edging/peril cancel

[late sapphire]

Really all psyker attacks only need rending against carapace

[rich spindle]

I also dont take it with other things because I’m too used to playing aggressively and relying on huge soulstealer regen

[late sapphire]

And then usually that's only crushers

[zinc phoenix]

If it scales with peril it should be swapped over to the right side aka the high peril tree

Or at least the center

[late sapphire]

10% rending would make soulblaze about 2x or 3x better vs crushers but still negligible

[mental rock]

3 x 0 is still 0

[echo root]

Why would you want less peril and less toughness? Less peril means less toughness as well. You're losing damage and survivability to be able to cast more without tapping quell once in a while.

[fringe garden]

What about 10 million X 0

[zinc phoenix]

Because if I’m playing smite surge or blaze trauma or burgeratus I don’t really need the toughness and I can easily generate enough peril for the next reee with it. The advantage is never needing to quell/being able to block for forever

Not needing to quell as much is very nice imo and I am willing to take the trade

[echo root]

Honestly just change the talent, underwhelming.

[zinc phoenix]

I’d kinda like something that does the opposite: you get more peril gen in return for X

[compact cargo]

Flat our rending, like vet, wouldn't be bad

Guy just gets 3 sources of rending

[zinc phoenix]

For instance imagine a trait where you get 20% more peril but 20% CDR

Numbers obviously just for example. But it’d be a pretty fun trade off

[echo root]

Only if they did this imo

Being forced to take a downside shouldn't be a thing imo

[thorn cedar]

i mean, fix pots first

thats the biggest issue right now lmao

[rich spindle]

Pots?

[thorn cedar]

Perils of the Soul or w/e the rending is called

It does nothing currently

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah that’s fair

Then I could take both to offset them and go 🦍

It might be wise to instead have a locking three way fork and merge with a more peril, less peril and neutral option

[marble crater]

I have been using this and I didn't feel any less tanky than a few months ago where I didn't have the less peril and toughness talent. And yes I will change harvest for soulstealer, probably

[steep estuary]

Wait warp resistance is the staff dump?

I've always gone quell speed

[marble crater]

Warp resistance scales a lot worse than quell speed and ironically enough you also want somewhat worse warp resistance to get to high peril quicker, for more damage

But that last part only matters for the start of the engagement, as you then edge at high peril and stay there until things are dead