#psyker-class

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ripe bear
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insane

steel flame
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Yes, yes it is

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That amount of crit chance also makes you effectively immune to ranged damage while just shooting the gun with empathic

upper sun
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extra ~130 on each swing against carapace no noticeable difference on chaff

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uhhhh +100? on unyielding

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its been a while since i checked

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but i think it warrents further inspection

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you get all of the benefit with each hit unlike skullcrusher which has to be built up after the bleed change

jovial juniper
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Pair with Domination and the 5 rending sub node and get the funny 40 rending

strong gulch
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I just did a horrors map. I soloed so many monsters and carried hard only for my game to fecking crash as I was getting on the dang plane. 😭

marble crater
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Rip salute

summer prairie
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probably still counts

strong gulch
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I'll check when I get back into game. I hope so.

barren cloud
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what's the best map for Cliffhanger?

upper sun
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what do you wanna compare?

buoyant maple
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Ragers, maulers & crushers

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Ogryn melees have maniac adm problems

upper sun
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ok ill try no talents first

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SC CRUSHER: 387 H1 consistantly....

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how do you even proc skullcrusher staregryn

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does it not worth without the impact talent

jovial juniper
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Push Attack

upper sun
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its not working even with the impact talent staregryn

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even with push attack and even full on kickback stagger

steel flame
# barren cloud what's the best map for Cliffhanger?

at the end of hab drako during extraction the uturn bend you take to get to the extract has no railings on the inside corner and infinite hordes so you can sit there and push stuff off the ledge to the hearts content

upper sun
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jesus i can bearly get it to work on maniacs

verbal thistle
steel flame
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and it doesnt need to be the ult push, as long as you are killing enemies that are falling when they die

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shit you can even get it by killing enemies with your weapon that are falling over a box

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long as they die before they hit the floor

upper sun
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SC dreg rager H1: 344 H1 472 H1 600 using sprint cancel has to be very quick

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doesnt need impact talent

nocturne dust
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Hab Dreyko is more of a pain since you have to play a whole map first.

sly shadow
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Can someone help me with the Deimos Blaze Force Sword? Saw some video mentioning that a particular part of the combo when heavy attack is really strong. So the ideal situation is light (even nothing) then load up a heavy attack for the 2nd hit and it'll be like a truck. So to keep it going is it just light > heavy > light > heavy > repeat, or is it like light > heavy > block > light > heavy?

nocturne dust
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you block to get the beginning light jab which doesn't occur if you repeat

next pine
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is that the charged overhead heavy attack?

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the strike down?

patent mango
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i just go light heavy repeat

sly shadow
nocturne dust
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Not super necessary, but it is more optimal

next pine
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yeah that shit fucks things up, especially if it's also warp-charged

nocturne dust
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If you want super stupid combo, just spam heavies

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That works too, lol

sly shadow
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So Warudo said to keep the chain going, Deadvoid said to block to reset the combo's?

exotic crane
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you want to use the strikedown, not the stab on the deimos?

nocturne dust
summer prairie
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block cancelling feels a bit slow, not sure if it's worth it even

next pine
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I use the strike down for bosses once their shield is down. They take so much damage from it

analog agate
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I do L1-H2-block

nocturne dust
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both l1 and h2 are stabs and they quite a bit of damage

exotic crane
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I mean, which one is better?

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oh, okay

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I do use the stab if I can

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but mostly just EXPLOSION KEKW_ogryn

nocturne dust
summer prairie
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I remember testing it but it wasn't very rigorous

clear heath
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I just don't bother because i'm lazy. No idea if it's optimal though

summer prairie
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if you need the l1-h2 combo specifically to kill an elite, then it's worth it, otherwise I think not

nocturne dust
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Yeah the l1->h2 is very good at offing non-ogryn enemies so you don't need to repeat

upper sun
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SC dreg rager H1: 344 H1 472 H1 60
SC crusher: H1 387 h1 531 h1 675 h1 675 h1 675
OP dreg rager: h1 344 h1 435 h1 435....
OP crusher: h1 387 h1 446 h1 446....
with impact talent same results @buoyant maple

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wait a second lemme check my full usual build

buoyant maple
upper sun
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hold on a sec lemme check with full talents

nocturne dust
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Optimal shieldgryn blessings? loregryn

upper sun
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nvm

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skullcrusher still king

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my disappointment is immeasurable

nocturne dust
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F

buoyant maple
nocturne dust
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wat about 2nd blessing

buoyant maple
upper sun
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always brutal

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ALWAYS

nocturne dust
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ah

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wait but doesn't shield have infinite cleave?

buoyant maple
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H1 block cancel, loop forever

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u only rly want to use H2 vs like, very high mass elite waves

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it helps stagger all off them at once

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assuming no carapace to block cleave

nocturne dust
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Dang Sitgryn

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Shield needs another mark

upper sun
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@nocturne dust for shield

verbal thistle
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no often them up?

buoyant maple
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ogryn weapons' maniac ADM is painful

jovial juniper
upper sun
verbal thistle
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nuke only here

nocturne dust
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but bomb

upper sun
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nuke = no bleedmaxx

jovial juniper
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(I have soft them up)

upper sun
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ill shoot myself in the toes before i use box

radiant frigate
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bobomba

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rock seems funny but is it really worth

nocturne dust
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you know what would make box good?

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more grenades

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grenades inside the grenades

jovial juniper
nocturne dust
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and grenades inside those grenades

upper sun
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free ranged insta kill every 60 seconds

radiant frigate
upper sun
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everything except maulers and ogryn die to rock

jovial juniper
buoyant maple
radiant frigate
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though +15% teamwide boss damage seems good too

buoyant maple
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but rock saves u a lot of ammo/time across a mission

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for killing mutants and specialists

nocturne dust
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Counterpoint: shotgun need no ammo

strong gulch
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@lethal lagoon please post :BoogerFrog:.

marble crater
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Sadge

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Is ogryn box useful yet?

nocturne dust
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no

marble crater
nocturne dust
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I mean you can use it

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and it does stuff

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just less stuff than other options

clear heath
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you get to hear more explosion noises

jovial juniper
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Emphasis on last

upper sun
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letting the psyker tank it is before that

strange nova
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right

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I need to relearn psyker

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oof

marble crater
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Ogryn bomb it is then.
I thought only my psyker talents were reset because of the new tree, but nope. All characters have all their talents reset throwing

nocturne dust
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hm that's strange

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I don't remember zealot or ogryn being reset from Unlocked and Loaded

marble crater
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Maybe because I reinstalled, but the game remembered all my other settings so I don't know KEKW_ogryn

strong gulch
lethal lagoon
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No problem.

marble crater
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Oh hey

strong gulch
marble crater
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Just checked my zealot and those are still there, weirdly enough KEKW_ogryn

strong gulch
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wtf

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lol

jovial juniper
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Yeah no changes to zealot

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Psykers new tree
Vet Ogryn some new talents

nocturne dust
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ogryn didn't get new talents

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just one node moved and balance changes

marble crater
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I see, annoying that

nocturne dust
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well two nodes I guess since they swapped places... big sad tdr stacking nerf 😭

jovial juniper
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It was like
Less stamina cost for pushing after successful block before

nocturne dust
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That's a balance change

nocturne dust
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That node existed before

jovial juniper
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Nope that's a new talent

nocturne dust
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Checkmate.

jovial juniper
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Woops the description isn't

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Checkmate

nocturne dust
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Lmao, so any time a description changes, new talent?

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FNP must be new

jovial juniper
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So that's how it is

echo root
jovial juniper
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You disregard a whole change because name or something

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Ok you do you

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Back to dying light

nocturne dust
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I mean, it's practically new but technically not, and I live on technicalities

echo root
jovial juniper
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I'm not some SMT demon 😭

lofty marsh
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Embed fail, kms

marble crater
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Need a red name for the permissions

echo root
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It fails due to your lack of role

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Soon my child

marble crater
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Spam bot protection KEKW_ogryn

lofty marsh
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What do I need for the proper role?

echo root
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Go into zealot chat and talk about Loner being the best node and you'll get it asap

marble crater
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That works I guess, just talk more

echo root
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It's days on the discord + messages sent afaik

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Looks automated

nocturne dust
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It's just messages sent

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iirc

marble crater
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I would hope it's automated KEKW_ogryn

nocturne dust
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You can get it in like an hour

echo root
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Oh damn

nocturne dust
jovial juniper
strange nova
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Alright psykers, help a fledgling psyker out.

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What's the strats with the Deimos sword

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its your single target one right?

nocturne dust
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spam h2

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win

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Never use special

strange nova
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ah

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so non force force sword

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ok

nocturne dust
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Yes, lol

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That's why it's my favorite force sword

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Charge specials bad

strange nova
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how do i spam just H2 though

nocturne dust
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L1->h2

strange nova
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Ahhh I see it

nocturne dust
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block cancel to get another l1, or just use the weird light that occurs after and then h2

strange nova
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also jeez the athenaeum is out of date 😦

nocturne dust
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you can also just spam heavies KEKW_ogryn

strange nova
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scale of 1 to 10, how hard is it for a new barely touched the class after levelling it person to get into gunker

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or is gunker a nono

nocturne dust
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Gunker is the levelling build, lol

strange nova
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i dunno how much i'd use it anyway cuz i like magic stick

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ah

nocturne dust
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Staffker is the hard one

strange nova
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it wasnt when i was around lol

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fair

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i like stick

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i need to make some stick builds

nocturne dust
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I mean mainly because staves scale hard and assail is with gunker

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and assail is great at lower levels

strange nova
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thats fair

hollow jolt
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staffker isn't that bad if you hug trauma

nocturne dust
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Eh

hollow jolt
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its reliable and easy to use

nocturne dust
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I mean you can make staves work

strange nova
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i havent liked trauma since vt2

hollow jolt
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yeah I'm not saying its the best

strange nova
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ground circle isnt my thing

hollow jolt
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but its certainly usable

nocturne dust
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but it's not nearly the level of power you get at full

strange nova
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at full...?

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full tilt?

hollow jolt
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not like you need the best when leveling after all

strange nova
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full blast?

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fully clothed?

nocturne dust
nocturne dust
strange nova
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right

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i've a maxed psyker, im just looking for builds+advice

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because gameslantern just has stuff all over the place with bad descriptions

nocturne dust
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Hm, well staves are meta

strange nova
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and the athenaeum is out of date

zinc phoenix
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this one is fun

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if all you want is builds 🤷‍♀️

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advice wise, shoot em with the shooty stuff

strange nova
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mk2?

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i thought 4

zinc phoenix
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yeah its better for hitting hordes

strange nova
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ahhhh

zinc phoenix
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the voidstrike is better for the crushers etc

strange nova
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i do like hordesmack

nocturne dust
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Just use a knife

zinc phoenix
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i dont like knife

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too much clicky

nocturne dust
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Mad talk for someone in knifing distance

strange nova
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if i wanted to knife i'd play a non psyker lol

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like they already have so little unique going for them

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i'm not going to reduce that further

zinc phoenix
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we shoot big balls

nocturne dust
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I mean, Psyker has problems with melee maxing imo

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Knife is taken for speed

jovial juniper
zinc phoenix
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idk the build i linked is fun in melee

nocturne dust
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Gotta go fast

strange nova
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is surge i mean uh... electrowhatsit still looked down upon?

zinc phoenix
nocturne dust
strange nova
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I like battery on a stick

split lance
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Who tf thought it was trash

strange nova
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eh last time i played i got dunked on for wanting to use it

split lance
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What dude sucks so bad they think surge is bad

nocturne dust
zinc phoenix
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surge sucks without the one build that makes it very good

split lance
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Wait that sounded too serious

verbal thistle
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pre crafting update. it was the worst staff

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now its the best

jovial juniper
zinc phoenix
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well ok two builds

split lance
nocturne dust
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If surge was missing one thing in its build it would die

split lance
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And or

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Have a lot of ordo

zinc phoenix
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i played a lot of surge with a fancy stick and it worked build wise

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its still the same build now

split lance
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Ye I used it a lot pre craft

zinc phoenix
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except left click is now a thing

split lance
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Left click cringey

strange nova
split lance
zinc phoenix
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i left a couple points out from the traditional build

split lance
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U can drop kf for uhhh quit one if ya want

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But I wouldn’t

zinc phoenix
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you can also go kin flayer these days

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which is ok and less boring than smite

nocturne dust
zinc phoenix
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imo warp charge 6 isnt worth it so i go empathic evasion and 4% chance for charge on kill

nocturne dust
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quietude

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drop battery and take quietude

zinc phoenix
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quietude is very strong

split lance
clear heath
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6th warp charge

nocturne dust
split lance
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Oh

clear heath
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if you're spamming shriek, you'll realistically not get 6 charges

split lance
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I thought it was one of the top

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Ones

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And was very confused

nocturne dust
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2 extra warp charges which you won't get on a shriek spam build

split lance
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So can spam shriek

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But better

nocturne dust
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Even in mael, the benefit is minimal

split lance
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More fire

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More fire

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More dead

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More dead

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So many more dead had to say it twice lmao

nocturne dust
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Shaving a couple extra seconds off a build that already stacks cdr out the wazoo KEKW_ogryn

split lance
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I haven’t heard out the wazoo

nocturne dust
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like running cdr on curios, smh my head

split lance
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In so long

lethal lagoon
split lance
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Who doesn’t run cdr on curios

clear heath
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you're not getting 6 charges every 15 seconds most of the time

split lance
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Now that’s a crime

nocturne dust
nocturne dust
clear heath
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i do run them cause i'm greedy for dps

split lance
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I’d rather die a hero

nocturne dust
split lance
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Than live a coward

hearty wolf
# split lance

So the gameplay loop for this is press f and spam staff?

split lance
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(I’m dying anyway)

nocturne dust
nocturne dust
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Target elites for PC goodies

hearty wolf
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I will give that a go when I can roll a decent EK staff then

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I assume running it with ds4 is fine

split lance
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Kill elite -> shriek -> repeat.
Mael is over in 15min

split lance
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Surge is best gorl

hearty wolf
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I just need curios for my psyker too before I just run maelstrom non stop

nocturne dust
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EK eats everything not horde

strange nova
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that makes sense

split lance
strange nova
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illisi hours

split lance
strange nova
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so i can swing swing whoosh

nocturne dust
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Yeah you can run anything

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Illisi is eeeehhh on this build

hearty wolf
strange nova
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vomits

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nah i guess that tracks

hearty wolf
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This is too much mastery shit, I'm just going to buy greys and tune them up to feed

strange nova
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but which one?

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i can never remember the right one lol

hearty wolf
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got 2 million dockets anyway

nocturne dust
nocturne dust
split lance
split lance
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F my beloved

nocturne dust
split lance
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Jokes on you

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Idek what that means

nocturne dust
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Look at smite's center subnode

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Recognize it is the least useful talent on the tree

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Does no stun, no stagger, no cleave, and barely any damage

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also it's a DoT KEKW_ogryn

split lance
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I’m never going to use smite again after what atlas made me do

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Won’t even look at it

marble crater
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What did he make you do

split lance
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Smite only the whole game

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It was nothing short of boring and awful

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I literally started scrolling Instagram

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Used melee like 2x but only push. No swing

marble crater
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So you were the Atlas to his AgentChaos KEKW_ogryn

split lance
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No. We were all smite only

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4 psykers. Only smite

hearty wolf
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Are you okay?

split lance
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No

nocturne dust
split lance
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I am not

marble crater
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Eww

split lance
nocturne dust
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no

split lance
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Oh

nocturne dust
split lance
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Idk who was then

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Ik beans

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Who was 4th

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Welp

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Maybe a random

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I genuinely do not know

nocturne dust
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dang, can't believe you forgot [Redacted]

split lance
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I’d like to forget if anything

marble crater
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Maybe you were only three, but smite fried all your brains and you had a collective hallucination

split lance
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That’s more than possible

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You will literally never catch me on smite again

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I’ll crash out

marble crater
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The Flurry bug on Surge really annoys me, I didn't play for a few months but my muscle memory still gets messed up because of it staregryn

clear heath
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i wish they would fix it already

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makes me not want to use it

split lance
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Killing elites faster with KF at least

marble crater
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It sucks because it feels bad throwing

snow nymph
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i like the assail because my stingert goes woo woo owoowowowow

marble crater
split lance
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I do agree with the name

nocturne dust
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I dunno, EK is nice for acronyms

clear heath
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i don't mind it

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the dumb one is voidblast

marble crater
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Don't like that one either, yea

split lance
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Wack

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Cringe

marble crater
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Purgatus getting renamed into inferno is just hilarious after all the builds about it having inferno something in the name KEKW_ogryn

rich spindle
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They should have called it Voidburn Staff

wispy bay
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How well does a full soulblaze built run?

zinc phoenix
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idk what a "full soulblaze build" means tho

wispy bay
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Take every soulblaze nodes and perks.

plucky flax
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Tru duo but it was long and painful

zinc phoenix
rich spindle
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2m damage of surge staff right click left click. Wrist Pain

split lance
clear heath
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wtf how long was that run?

cyan portal
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except souldrinker, it isn't worth the point tax to get.

high kettle
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"For ze Emperor i'm SURE."

wispy bay
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I hear that soulblaze stack exponentially, so I'm kind of curious.

rich spindle
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Yeah. Soulblaze spam is my go to carry build

haughty star
rich spindle
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Probably the best safety:damage ratio in the game

nocturne dust
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just for added confusion with soulblaze

rich spindle
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Call it voidblaze and change soulblaze to soulburn

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I mean voidburn

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And Illisi is now Columnus Infantry Force Sword

strong gulch
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What's the fire staff? Purg? Inferno? Voidblaze? Voidburn? Voidblast? Are these all the same staff or 5 different ones? Did we finally get new staves?

NOPE. lol. Thanks FS name changes.

marble crater
plucky flax
strong gulch
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Electrokinesis staff when?

strong gulch
upper sun
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@radiant frigate i started working on my paper

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this is gonna take forever

rich spindle
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Is there any understanding as to why gunner AI will sometimes hit every single bullet of their barrage on you

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And sometimes shower you with inaccurate spray

clear heath
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it sometimes works

strong gulch
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toughness getting broken too

rich spindle
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Suppression makes sense

marble crater
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Running diagonally KEKW_ogryn

rich spindle
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Real. Just like trapper nets can easily be dodged so there’s no reason to ever get trapped

unkempt knoll
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just had a psyker blow up at extract like just inside the ship and blew up

primal plume
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Fire Staff is literally just an inferior version of EP Smite and Im not pretending otherwise

brazen rampart
split lance
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🗣️🔥

primal plume
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thats where firestaff has a place though

prime elk
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Purgatus is super good now

primal plume
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if your team is good they invalidate fire staffs existance

prime elk
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Boringly so

spice veldt
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premade opinions be like

cyan portal
split lance
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Yall know that tool song that starts with “think for yourself”

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I forgot the name

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Third eye

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Is the name

cyan portal
split lance
supple dock
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Like it's so good people get mad at people for using it because it makes the game too easy

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There you go

cyan portal
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I wanna see it carrying an illveg and topping dmg in every category, know of any vods?

supple dock
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Those games were auric maelstrom

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i forget which

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but it's a pretty insane skill either way from the clips I have

prime elk
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gotta hold down two buttons at once

supple dock
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lmao

prime elk
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but not only that, sometimes you have to press a THIRD

supple dock
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wild I know

cyan portal
supple dock
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yes, but now you can clear those situations with a non-main weapon

fringe garden
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But what difference does that make if you just run around smiting all the time

supple dock
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I mean. bosses spawn i guess

fringe garden
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Which purg staff does well against

prime elk
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you could take both too

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if you wanted to lol

fringe garden
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If ep smite is equal to purg in all things.. except bosses.. then purg is the better choice. Especially since you can then take warp charges for more toughness regen and cooldown

cyan portal
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also nurgle blessed enemies with stun immunity are gg smite

supple dock
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so take purg people will get less annoyed with you for it anyways lol

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since smite is that good anyways

fringe garden
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I actually do use Purg most of the time, lol. And I very rarely see these infamous smite psykers

cyan portal
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I still wanna see a run of ep smite hard carrying an illveg, genuinely curious to see it

supple dock
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so like a friend or two

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There's also uhm

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@lethal lagoon Yo get in here

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This guy has multiple screenshots of completing missions with ep smite

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You can look up his comment history and filter for images and stuff

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Usually spams the shit out of it

fringe garden
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I have a feeling there is a bit of a bias when people talk about smykers. That being it's just so annoying to play alongside that it stands out in your mind whenever it does happen. Because really they aren't so common to justify the wierd level of vitriol they get

supple dock
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because we often have people that try to argue against the things we've discovered

wispy bay
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I think smite is the best to go on harder difficulty.

supple dock
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Holy shit Smite psyker is a MENACE on civi

wispy bay
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Yes, there are some enemy with nurgle blessing, but they are few, and your teammate should be able to deal with them vs the large amount of enemy that can casually walkthrough the flame of inferno.

supple dock
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It makes engaging with maulers and crushers so much safer

fringe garden
# fluid thistle what's wrong with smite?

People get real mad because they make the game kinda boring. Depending on how much the smyker in question spams it. Someone spamming it 100% of the time kinda ruins the whole vibe of darktide.

primal plume
fringe garden
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It's a skill based coop experience. Removing the skill part takes away most of the fun for everyone

wispy bay
fluid thistle
#

I see, I see

supple dock
#

It's usually not an issue because most players are kinda bad

fringe garden
#

I'm not the kind of person to get upset with anyone for spamming it, but I almost certainly will enjoy the match less, which sucks

supple dock
#

But if you get someone who halfway knows how to make it obnoxious

wispy bay
#

Lol, it is not fun in damnation getting the crusher and rager spam.

supple dock
#

and bam you have an invincible team

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or almost invincible

fringe garden
#

Yeah, it's ironic that a good smyker does actually need some skill. It just removes the need for everyone else to need much, lol

supple dock
#

there's always outliers

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it's not even skill it's moreso..

wispy bay
#

Inferno needs more than 2 full right mouse charge to maybe kill some of the elites.

supple dock
#

Game knowledge?

fringe garden
#

Which is skill, just of a different kind to what you might usually call skill.

supple dock
#

I guesssssss

fringe garden
#

There is your reaction time, then there is your general knowledge

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Both are skill

wispy bay
#

What is "skill" with Inferno then? Enlight me.

fluid thistle
#

I do love smite but I love purg more 😅

supple dock
#

i mean it's a heavy stagger M1 i guess

primal plume
#

Another thing about EP Smite and Fire Staff. Smite charges far quicker and you can use it so long as you have Peril. Fire staff needs you to "reload" after every burst

strong gulch
#

Gloriana with double barrels. 😅

primal plume
wispy bay
#

Purg is indeed fun. But bringing the "skill" to compare to smite is just too funny.

strong gulch
primal plume
#

Purge and Smite are both pretty braindead imo.

fringe mauve
#

AMBATUKAM

wispy bay
#

A coop game that you want to make people life harder so you can have fun... well, it is not exactly coop then, isn't it?

fringe garden
primal plume
#

Honestly, I wish the left click on purge worked like Smite. You can keep flaming as long as you have Peril to spend

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the janky charge up and reload is what just makes purge really unfun for me

plucky flax
#

No one has ever carried on burga like smite

nocturne dust
#

Just use smite and burga

wispy bay
#

And I'm very open about builds, I like with BB and inferno.

primal plume
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Right click, not left

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got them confused

jovial juniper
primal plume
#

I just want a new staff to play with....

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cant believe we havnt gotten a single one since beta

nocturne dust
#

You can easily carry with Devil's Claw and Autoshredder (using EP smite) chadgryn

wispy bay
#

I run smite with EP (no EP upgrade)

cyan portal
primal plume
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ironically bolt staff from V2 would be perfect for Darktide. Especially with those new traits

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ALSO WHY THE FUCK ISNT THE LITTLE DINKY BOLT AUTO FIRE? WHY DO I NEED A MOD FOR THAT??

red lily
#

y'all watching these 2 numbers go up slowly is killing me lmao, last 2 psyker penances I need

wispy bay
#

Lol, my last psyker penance was the playing 100 games.

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I finished every other by 70.

nocturne dust
#

My last psyker penance was the ledging enemies one

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cuz I just kill them normally like a sane person

wispy bay
#

For Psykhana, I just BB EP.

jovial juniper
nocturne dust
#

Hounds

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Just let the hounds roll in with smite EP

cyan portal
#

I can't find a single illveg smite vanity run on youtube. So I assume thinking ep smite is better than purga is just because you're not good at purga.

radiant frigate
jovial juniper
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Bro uses 3veg as a metric system 💀

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As a gunker purga is pretty bad

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As a Krak user purga is pretty bad

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As a knife user purga is pretty bad

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As a Thunderhammer

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Ok you get the point

patent mango
#

i think purgatus should be reworked into summoning a giant warp sword

cyan portal
#

I just wanna see ep smite get top dmg in every category on an illveg? It's fairly easy to do with purga. If ep smite is even better then presumably such a vod would exist?

red lily
rich spindle
#

While they farm EP smite damage on the rest of the horde

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I accidentally brought it to that modifier once and it was so awkward

cyan portal
vernal flax
jovial juniper
#

Green enemies are whatever
The real kicker here is boss damage
So bro's trying to prove a point by getting biased info
Instead of your usual Darktide match
Just disengage and move on

wispy bay
#

Lol, if you do it like that, my voidstrike can kill them, too.

wispy bay
#

At safer distance even

cyan portal
#

The point was just to show purga ttk was twice as fast as smites, without using an ult. If I could be bothered I'd have also shown it also has far higher max targets and wider coverage.

rich spindle
#

It has wider coverage?

cyan portal
jovial juniper
wispy bay
#

Smite is not about damage. It is about CC.

cyan portal
prime elk
#

both, you can do both

wispy bay
#

EP has damage as a side plus. The main thing it has is the faster spread.

prime elk
#

nah the damage is good too

wispy bay
#

Well yeah, vs trash mobs

prime elk
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vs. elites too

rich spindle
#

Ep smite on flak elites is p good

cyan portal
prime elk
#

wouldn't bother smiting bosses tho

wispy bay
#

Anything with resemblance of flak armour can just walk through flame.

stark crown
rich spindle
#

I would consider ep smite and purg to be the same thing but at different points on the cc - dps scale

jovial juniper
#

Like bubble breaking

cyan portal
jovial juniper
#

Judge going full Saltz

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Repent, repent REPENT

stark crown
#

I'd swap to veteran right now to see if its real

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yeah fuck it

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Ogryn can wait a second

spice veldt
#

soulblaze has 1.5x adms into flak unless that got changed

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or also just lmbing to stagger them

split lance
wispy bay
#

Again, smite is a combination tool, not a do everything.

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You stun enemy so your team can safely clear them, it is not about pure damage for solo.

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You can roll up and never once I wrote anything about smite does more damage.

cyan portal
#

I'm not saying smite is bad, I'm just saying the suggestion that it is somehow better than purga sounds crazy to me.

nocturne dust
#

Smite will stun crushers, purga will not

cyan portal
#

Purga will kill a pack of crushers faster than anything though. They don't need to be stunned if they're just dead.

rich spindle
#

I think stun is pretty overrated and only needed in situations where there is truly no room to maneuver. I’d say ep smite is better in these instances but they are very rare

nocturne dust
#

Only if you speck into it.

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And even then, still not safer than smite

cyan portal
#

if they don't have an uncanny melee with purga then idk what they've been smoking

nocturne dust
#

And let's be honest, it really doesn't take that long to deal with a pack of crushers, purga doesn't deal with them that quick

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A bolter will do better

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On Psyker, dueling sword really will kill a pack quicker, and it has the upside of you being on your melee instead of trying to dance around a crusher pack with a staff

cyan portal
#

depends how big the pack is, the bigger the pack the more the race favors purga.

nocturne dust
#

Sure, but packs that large are super rare

steel flame
#

OR TRAUMA

rich spindle
#

I usually don’t bother trying to apply blaze to crushers and then getting uncanny strike up

nocturne dust
#

This is true, trauma will also do it safer

steel flame
#

TRAUMA GO BRRRRR

rich spindle
#

By the time I get 5 headshots on them they are more or less dead

cyan portal
#

Full secondary channel as they slowly walk towards you to put them all on 15 stacks, ult to put them all on 21 stacks, deimos special into headshot while they're all staggered from shriek, followed by another l1 to get 5 uncanny stacks, then poke whichever ones aren't dead yet in the head (or force push if you want to be extra safe) until they're all dead anyway a few seconds later.

rich spindle
#

I can see that being the strat for like scab melee

cyan portal
#

It isn't even very risky. If there is a green one in there you'll need to dodge its overhead and poke it first though. But that is a better situation than smite is in.

rich spindle
#

I would consider relying on enough space for a rmb channel, on ult being up, & locking into demios special to be riskier than smite in this case

cyan portal
#

Sure, assuming no green ones, it is a little more risky. I'm just saying it isn't very risky. Also the much faster ttk means it is less likely that something else will be thrown into the mix to ruin the plan. The shriek stagger gives you a safe window to be locked in the deimos special animation, which is the only otherwise very risky thing to be doing next to a pack of crushers.

#

The faster ttk doesn't really matter that much if you team is alive and helping, but if you're down to a solo clutch situation it is a significant advantage.

primal plume
#

Anyone else get a bug where buffs just dont appear?

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im really struggling to see why this shit even exists. The variance in damage is one 1 less bolt

nocturne dust
#

Empyric Shock is a debuff

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Which enemy are you saying is 1 less bolt?

primal plume
#

mauler

nocturne dust
#

well its main use is ogryns and bosses so

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The thing lmb had trouble with

primal plume
#

i guess

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but im just finding it hard to justify 3 talent points for very specific situations

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when other classes just shit on bosses outright

red lily
nocturne dust
narrow lichen
#

Anyone got a build for me, im looking to use infantry autogun and a blaze force sword

nocturne dust
#

Here is gunker

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There are many like it

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Also, you should have 2 free points to spend where you please

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I generally put them in assail myself

primal plume
#

Also is this bugged?

nocturne dust
#

No, it increases swap speed

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It's useless tho

narrow lichen
primal plume
#

i barely notice a difference

nocturne dust
primal plume
#

https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Quick_Draw

I thought it would be somethng like this

Fallout Wiki

Quick Draw is a perk in Fallout: New Vegas. Taking this perk increases the speed of equipping and holstering a weapon by 50%. The usefulness of this perk is debatable depending on play style, as...

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where its super fucking fast

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but even at 80% it feels like nothing changes

nocturne dust
#

yep

narrow lichen
nocturne dust
#

Any peril you gen is peril you quell. Unless you die.

#

Exploding bad.

narrow lichen
rich spindle
nocturne dust
#

and Battle Meditation just doesn't quell enough, it's very mid.

narrow lichen
#

Mind in Motion?

nocturne dust
#

Dodging/sliding is faster.

#

So bad.

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The nodes I would look at are the Scrier's nodes not taken, assail, and Perilous Combustion

rich spindle
#

scrier's gunker is probably the most unforgiving glass cannon in the game, I reccomend at least one toughness damage reduction node

mossy oyster
#

nah

nocturne dust
#

Not really

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Assail is your toughness generator

mossy oyster
#

no need for defense

#

just be aware 24/7

nocturne dust
#

You basically just swap to and from assail all day and have plenty of toughness through it, which is why you have soulstealer

rich spindle
#

good point just dont get hit

mossy oyster
#

i dont run soulstealer

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my routing is quietude into perilious

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in the top left

thorn cedar
#

Mind in Motion should honestly be a Scriers Gaze node

nocturne dust
#

Mind in Motion shouldn't exist

thorn cedar
#

That's its big use case is with Warp Speed

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you just quell forever and bank your scriers build up

nocturne dust
#

Warp Speed and Endurance should be combined with Mind in Motion, and you should retain the effect during Scrier's lingering effect

rich spindle
#

make the movespeed node +40%

jovial juniper
#

Merge the speed into Scrier's
Put a new talent there

mossy oyster
#

make the movement speed scale the more you kill elites with scriers up

rich spindle
#

oo thats a good one

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demoknight mode

nocturne dust
#

Psyker gotta zoom

lethal lagoon
jovial juniper
primal plume
#

A beast grabbed me through the wall

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and then when it died i got stuck in it

nocturne dust
#

Walls are suggestions in Darktide

cyan portal
viral crater
#

Any good builds for psyker with bolt pistol?

nocturne dust
#

There are builds. They exist.

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Good? loregryn

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@plucky flax can probably give you one, the dirty 🅱️istol lover that they are.

jovial lark
#

any ETA on that 2h force sword? surely were getting new psyker weapons soon right bros? surely we will get somehting new since launch right bros? copium

nocturne dust
#

Right after solo mode.

brazen rampart
jovial lark
jovial juniper
#

Right before Darktide Chaos Waste

jovial lark
#

same patch as the second enemy type i assume

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:^(

short lily
#

Is there any way to make surge staff more consistent to ohko

nocturne dust
#

I mean, other than maxing out damage? Not really. You could go for the elite aura if you haven't but perfect timing is pretty important to the staff so it's going to be 'inconsistent'.

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Vet is the one that gets consistent KOs

short lily
#

It just sucks balls to zap a gunner and they survive with a literal sliver of hp

nocturne dust
#

If you want to one-hit gunners, use +flak and +elite

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iirc

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It's kinda eh tho, cuz that's the only breakpoint +elite helps hit

short lily
#

That'll do nicely

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Thank

late sapphire
dusk void
#

Omg, 11 BoNs in one mission. WTF

strong gulch
#

horrorsssss

azure parcel
#

Glad I'm done with the event

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Don't have to deal with the slugs anymore

dusk void
#

The AI Director didn't have creativity for these events. I would've been fine with at least a Chaos Spawn on there

strong gulch
#

Last horrors map I did (reg T5) had Cspawns + bonbon multiple times. KEKW_ogryn

azure parcel
#

I wouldn't mind the event if it clearly stated that it spawns BoNs. I think a LOT of casual players dive into it without being prepared for that

dusk void
#

I was pissed off at my teammates because they decided to rescue a teammate while I'm at the extraction elevator. Then 2 more BoNs showed up before I finished the mission smh. We should've just left

dusk void
azure parcel
#

Ok let me be specific: bad players who struggle in auric in the first place

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Then jump into mutated horrors because "wheeee event!"

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And get eaten lmao

dusk void
#

I'm wondering if it's even worth it to master all of my weapons for my psyker

strong gulch
#

If you want to, sure.

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If not, they'll be there.

dusk void
#

I mean, I can just buy my way to mastery

strong gulch
#

You can just play what you want then dump mats into mastery.

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ye

azure parcel
#

I am terrible at Psyker and the only thing letting me play it in Aurics is Purgatus

late sapphire
#

If you like ticking off boxes, do it - if not, don't

azure parcel
#

Although tbf I haven't tried Smyker yet

patent jacinth
#

Don’t

azure parcel
#

No good electro staff yet

patent jacinth
#

Will shoot you

azure parcel
#

How is it "worse" than Purg

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Purg is like infinite cleave burns + random BBs popping off on elites

nocturne dust
patent jacinth
#

Purg only turns trash and light elites off

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Smyker turns literally everything off and is harder to see through

azure parcel
late sapphire
#

This is why i like horrors mode

azure parcel
#

And I'm too inexperienced to cook my own

late sapphire
#

BoNs eat smykers

nocturne dust
#

But if you want to focus on one or the other, running them together is eh

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and the Psyker guide is susgryn in places

late sapphire
#

No

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Shock maul electro staff smite

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That combo gives you 100 style points

nocturne dust
#

With charged strike thumbsup_ogryn

patent jacinth
#

At least Smaul is cool

nocturne dust
#

I like the funny electrocution special

patent jacinth
#

I just like how it feels

nocturne dust
#

Annoying that ovenproof spams chat when you use it tho

patent jacinth
#

Weighty and crunchy

patent jacinth
late sapphire
patent jacinth
#

I swear I had it pasted in a server somewhere

spark flume
nocturne dust
#

no don't take warp flurry

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Nexus

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is the meta choice

late sapphire
#

Blaze away...

nocturne dust
#

oh wait

late sapphire
#

Penetrating flames kinda sucks

nocturne dust
#

That build doesn't have blaze away

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That's just a bad build

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You use Blaze Away and Nexus for max meta, Blaze Away is the best possible blessing on Inferno in every case

patent jacinth
#

Certified Gameslantern moment

spark flume
#

yeah I saw people do warp nexus and X. I saw warp flurry or blaze away but I was using that build LOL

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okok do I change anything about his talent page?

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or the sword

nocturne dust
#

It's just not as good as Nexus.

late sapphire
#

'Your melee weapon should still be used to take out Crushers, but mixed hordes melt far quicker than before'
Lol?

spark flume
#

is the Psyker atheneum a better place to get builds?

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on steam guides

late sapphire
#

For the melee check out the dueling sword

late sapphire
spark flume
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Ok ty I guess I gotta go and update my other psyker builds x.x lol

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Is the electrokinetic staff dump Critical, or warp resist?

upper galleon
#

penetrating flames is basically, if your other weapons can't handle carapace period

#

otherwise Blaze away nexus is just really good

upper galleon
spark flume
#

OML I'm poor after I maxed out a crit dump staff earlier. MANG lol tyty

spark flume
strong gulch
#

Recent update gave us more blessings.

upper galleon
#

sadly, electrokinetic staffs best build is to play around M1

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crit bonus as a mod score+ surge blessing+ nexus= spamming balls

nocturne dust
#

RMB is stronger otherwise, imo.

nocturne dust
upper galleon
nocturne dust
upper galleon
#

and it doesn't disable your RMB, surge still gives crit chance and it charges quicker than other staffs

nocturne dust
#

Crit is less important on RMB, RMB spam wants flurry

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Crit is mainly used for perfect timing on RMB

#

RMB and lmb both mainly do the same things, RMB is just better at offing elites/specials while LMB has the ability to suppress hordes (which isn't all that significant if you are practiced in dodging, really). This of course changes when you quell cancel.

spark flume
#

For the RMB do I go empowered psionics with smite and venting shriek?

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and does it change for lmb

nocturne dust
#

You only go EP smite if you want an EP smite build

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Warp Siphon is for creeping flames shriek spam, which is the 'normal' EK RMB build.

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LMB wants to do the same thing, really. It just makes a minor detour for Empyric Shock and gives up a few other nodes.

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This is my EK build for RMB spam

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For LMB spam I would swap to smite (giving up Kinetic Flayer) and lose wildfire to go for Empyric Shock

spark flume
#

do you go prescience for the crit on the lmb?

nocturne dust
#

no

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costs an extra point to do so, so no dice

spark flume
#

ok ic. Is it bad to use dueling sword for every build for now? (poor building all my chars)

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And do I need to change the perks/blessings for the dueling swords in between builds (also what's the meta on them)

nocturne dust
#

Not sure what you mean

spark flume
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not the LMB and RMB but all the psyker builds

nocturne dust
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EK does prefer a horde clear weapon tho which dueling sword is not, but you can make it work easily since your real horde clear is Shriek

mental rock
#

Its fine to use the same weapon for every build, but it will make switching weapons more difficult. Especially since duelling sword is so good right now

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And switching perks between builds is handy if you utilize your weapon for different purposes depending on the build, just don't forget to switch them back

spark flume
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ok yeah cuz I'm trying to just get things running since I'm p poor and I'm... not feeling the blaze force sword too much.

mental rock
#

It will also cost mats every time you do it

nocturne dust
#

Or just have multiple of the same weapon chadgryn

mental rock
#

That too

spark flume
#

Yeah I'll prob do that eventually. wait so for the duel swords

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do I change anything?

mental rock
#

On psyker I would personally swap riposte for uncanny or thrust

nocturne dust
#

Well, for one, get rid of precog and add uncanny

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I would also get rid of riposte for thrust

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Riposte is a blessing if you want to main dueling sword and attack enemies with your melee, which is kinda a big ask on Psyker

spark flume
#

Done. Icic so would it be good for that one build where you go psycho?

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and are the perks ok?

nocturne dust
#

Psyker is ordinarily going to be defensive with their melee and try to create space for their ranged weapon

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Of course, meleeker exists but the normal pick for that is illisi

mental rock
#

Perks are fine, you might lack boss damage though depending on your ranged wep

nocturne dust
#

I would swap maniac for unyielding if you put thrust on

spark flume
#

yeahhh I'll try to get more maxed weapons soon.... always need diamantine lol

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will do. Sorry also do you guys have a build for Telekine shield psyker?

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Last one haha

nocturne dust
#

Shield generally pairs with Voidblast or Inferno

plucky flax
#

Shield SadgeCry

nocturne dust
#

You'll do better with Shriek once you're practiced though

spark flume
#

oh is it not good? I thought people loved shield LOL

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I don't actually personally like it but thought it'd be good to have if it was good, but if it isn't I can pass ig

nocturne dust
mental rock
#

Its nice for the team but shriek has better carry potential

nocturne dust
#

Like it's not bad by any means but you don't need it

nocturne dust
#

If you want shriek, just swap to shriek. Literally the same. KEKW_ogryn

spark flume
#

IC I'll do voidblast so I have a build of every staff lol

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if I did shriekd would I do the +1 bounce?

nocturne dust
#

For smite? No

plucky flax
#

No ee on burga?

nocturne dust
#

or you mean EP smite?

spark flume
#

OH wait sorry mixed up the names

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still learnign lol

nocturne dust
#

Swap staff.

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E z

strong gulch
#

Shields have their uses, but shriek (with creeping flames) has both utility and damage.

Bubble is nice on some maps like train. Double wall can be nice for specials but more so for KR EP BB (kinetic resonance, empowered psionics, brain burst / rupture).

plucky flax
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Yeah but no ee

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On the burga

nocturne dust
#

EE isn't that good

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and mettle doesn't work rn 😭

plucky flax
#

It is on assail and burga

spark flume
#

ic. Is there a build out there that uses voidstrike?

nocturne dust
#

On burga, sure, but you find a point

nocturne dust
#

In fact, voidstrike has 2 builds

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One for shriek, one for scrier's

spark flume
#

mmmm can I get the build for scriers, if possible? I'll have a build for every staff and ability then haha

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also blast radius dump, Warp Flurry + Surge (If it's scrier I hope?)

nocturne dust
nocturne dust
plucky flax
#

Certified top 0.1% moment

nocturne dust
# nocturne dust

also be warned that this is my personal, more unhinged variant that generally requires more skill

plucky flax
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I run flurry surge on my void too

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Nexus is just too slow

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Void is already slow as is

nocturne dust
#

You don't even like voidstrike tho 😭

plucky flax
#

Yeah it's really mediocre in my hand

spark flume
#

it's ok, I like trial by fire. Would the perks be crit + something?

nocturne dust
#

Anticipation lets you better handle the slow charge time, but yeah, you do need to be very aware, moreso than other staffkers

nocturne dust
#

To note, crit chance. Never take crit damage.

spark flume
#

TY I have a lot of builds now lol

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Also weapon of choice for this?

plucky flax
#

Kind of weird

strong gulch
#

That's for trauma assail with ER.

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Not meta but fun.

plucky flax
#

Trauma and assail but no soulstealer seems hard

nocturne dust
#

It looks

strong gulch
#

You can put souldstealer instead of souldrinker.

nocturne dust
#

It just looks.

spark flume
#

oh I didn't know it wasn't meta lol

strong gulch
#

The other option is DD instead of WC.

spark flume
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I'm not good enough to make my own builds so I'm trying to gather meta builds and learn from there lol

nocturne dust
strong gulch
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It's my build btw. LMAO

nocturne dust
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I'm aware, lol.

strong gulch
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Meta with trauma is BB with KF, shriek, and WC (left keystone).

nocturne dust
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Wait don't you have a crystalline trauma build

strong gulch
nocturne dust
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lol

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I want martyr psyker to be real

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'Survivor' psyker or something, for every missing wound +movespeed and +damage converted to peril pogryn

strong gulch
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Behold crystalline will trauma. (it's fun and not good)

nocturne dust
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At least it's better than symmetric perfection

strong gulch
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I call it "Purple" for a reason.

nocturne dust
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Waiting for ogryn bomb crystalline will

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Come on Fatshark

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you know you wanna

umbral dove
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does anyone know if the Skullcrusher perk does extra damage to electrocuted enemies

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since they’re kinda already staggered?

nocturne dust
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Uuuhhhhh it's a debuff that applies to staggered enemies

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The electrocution effect is separate from stagger, so if you see them being staggered it would work, just not because of electrocution... if I'm not mistaken

slender coyote
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Hi intensity mutated horrors plus pox gas

nocturne dust
exotic crane
restive slate
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Question, how is Psyker with Fan Revolver?

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Scryer build with Assail?