psyker-class

[upper sun]

no

make smite worse

[jovial juniper]

High cleave weapons with Warp Splitting

[upper sun]

give it 5 more useless upgrades

[tired estuary]

Nerf leash range between smite targets and crank the shit out of the peril gain plz

[upper sun]

remove smite make the walls a blitz ability and give us another ult

[thorn cedar]

i actually like smite is the thing

i just dont like how the game pushes players to just brainlessly hold down the one charge

[broken carbon]

yeah same

[thorn cedar]

you get dummies like the guy above who made an entire thread about people not killing a special that he's holding smite on

when it's like

you could just ... stop smiting and fucking kill them yourself, dingdong

[red lily]

yeah a lot of people get over reliant on their skills/abilities/guns and completely forget that melee is a super important aspect of the game to be familiarized with

[upper sun]

yeah that was the one lesson the friend who got me into darktide taught me

[red lily]

my favorite is watching a psyker get shoved into a corner by any boss and still desperately spamming their staff/abilities rather than pulling out a melee and trying to block/get out of that position before casting again

[upper sun]

nothing about talents crafting builds armor types spawns etc

"ey buddy kill em urself"

[orchid ibex]

That's always an interesting mentality. Your teammates usually have their own problems or aren't just sitting back watching for the protagonist to smite stuff.

[thorn cedar]

no see they're a support player, that means the entire team has to support them

... wait

[broken carbon]

me watching the smite psyker smiting a single pox hound instead of just walking up to it and stabbing it

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-stare-cute-animal-gif-17442718

[upper sun]

https://tenor.com/view/twd-the-walking-dead-war-soldier-shocked-gif-4437892585712535492

me watching the zealot slowly walk up to the poxhound and use a push instead of shooting it or wasting a bolter round

[thorn cedar]

ive got two moves when i have a smyker in the lobby

one is just outrunning the fuck outta em

the other is staring right at their face with my back turned to whatever theyre smiting

[upper sun]

actually speaking of push attacks

[orchid ibex]

Secret option #3, look for a barrel

[broken carbon]

i do that all the time it’s so funny

[upper sun]

i still think the force sword push attack does not work correctly on dogs after they grapple someone

[broken carbon]

what

[upper sun]

cmon you know it happens

[broken carbon]

pushing a hound?

yeah

[upper sun]

no

[broken carbon]

that’s what i do all the time

[upper sun]

im saying walking up to push it instead of shooting it

[broken carbon]

walk up

push to reset it

then kill it

that’s what i do all the time

[upper sun]

😭 i mean after it pounced on someone

[broken carbon]

pushing is faster than drawing a gun

[upper sun]

just say you dont wanna waste ammo on psykers

just admit it

[broken carbon]

correct

but also unrelated

[upper sun]

im crying rn

ur hurting my feefees

[broken carbon]

it’s alright i’ll carry you to make up for it

[upper sun]

ur gonna have to carry extra hard

im feeling esp crap today

[broken carbon]

soo

nothing new

[upper sun]

when are you back from work?

[broken carbon]

no clue

5:30ish latest

[upper sun]

ma'am

[broken carbon]

but i’m gonna see if i can get off earlier

[upper sun]

im gonna need a t-minus count down

[broken carbon]

4 hours

[upper sun]

good enough 🫡

[broken carbon]

i also probably won’t be able to play lol

i’ve got a friend coming over

[upper sun]

also fine tbh

[broken carbon]

[upper sun]

im prolly gonna sleep for another 20 hours today

[broken carbon]

goals

[haughty star]

didn't the augments used to apply to only m1?

[jovial juniper]

Used to

But afaik they patched and now everything works

[gusty sapphire]

so how exactly do you use scrier's gaze?

[thorn cedar]

you just press F

[gusty sapphire]

i mean best utilization

[thorn cedar]

the secret ingredient is to scream IRL as your perils gets higher

[gusty sapphire]

also is disrupt destiny any good to use or should i probably take like

warp siphon

[thorn cedar]

it's just damage. you press F when you wanna do more damage/crit more

[haughty star]

disrupt sucks

pretty much useless

[thorn cedar]

bad bait

DD is strong with almost everything, there's just a handful of weps/staffs that really dont get much out of it

[gusty sapphire]

hmm. using assail and scriers, trying to decide which keystone to use

[thorn cedar]

oh def DD

[gusty sapphire]

aight, ill try it out
also which scriers modifiers should i prob be using

[thorn cedar]

any or none

its really up to you

tbh naked scriers is already strong, its more a question of whether you have other nodes you could grab which are perhaps stronger than the Scriers Mods

Precognition and Endurance are pretty good vanilla picks

[gusty sapphire]

ooh, got'cha

[orchid ibex]

Warp unbound is good for just free 10s of max peril damage

[jovial juniper]

Precognition

The finesse there will stack with DD

[haughty star]

for free assail darts that pen like 8 people

[jovial juniper]

Reality Anchor is legit sausage water

[haughty star]

i'll give YOU sausage water agreed

[potent lava]

Is mettle still bugged with purg?

[thorn cedar]

It does but that's very meh ultimately, even at the maximum 30 stacks it's a paltry bonus compared to DD by itself

its really for the other effect, headshots = scrier stacks

you just mulch shit for a while and you can ramp up to 15+ stacks very easily

[late sapphire]

me when i get netted once after 24min and all of my teammates scatter even though there is no danger and die within a minute

[upper sun]

me but im a zealot

and i die instead of getting downed because of until death

[late sapphire]

I used to think that was an issue but i've come to the realization that downed ≈ death cause the other fuckers will die before ressing me most of the time

[hollow jolt]

yeah its kind of annoying

I've basically made my build around never being downed and ensuring other people don't go down

for pugs that is

[radiant frigate]

for once the cadian line rings true

"without me, you'll be dead in minutes"

[cyan portal]

Yes

[tacit bobcat]

any1 else still exploding when using warp unbound with sciers during its effect?

[strong gulch]

I'm not aware of a mettle bug. I know it was nerfed tho.

Or do you mean it being weird when there isn't more than 3 targets?

[cyan portal]

It can only proc on the first tick of a secondary channel

[strong gulch]

Oh, that might be the weird thing. KK I'll look into it at some point so I lock that away in muh brains.

[neat dome]

im leveling both force sword and voidstrike staff. what is a good enough tree to use?

[mental grail]

smite?

assail?

[jovial juniper]

Oh that Scrier's node should be on Precognition

Woops

And if you're not comfortable with Scrier's you could get Shriek

Yeah

[cyan portal]

tranq through slaughter is a dead talent there

[late sapphire]

Put two points in warp unbound and one with the warp i think those are fairly necessary

is this a gunker tree, higui?

[jovial juniper]

Oh yeah I guess I was using a gunker tree lmao

Hey

Quickest build I had around

[late sapphire]

^

just swap the dueling sword for a force sword

[jovial juniper]

Yup that's more like it

[unkempt knoll]

am i wrong or is psyker the weakest clas?

[late sapphire]

you are wrong

[nocturne dust]

you are wrong

[late sapphire]

it does suck at lower levels though

[jovial juniper]

What makes you feel like that

[nocturne dust]

Idk is the weakest class currently Ogryn?

[unkempt knoll]

its just im one shotting big fuckers as zealot, mowing down hordes as vetren, ogryns tank and AOE is nutty with the shotgun

[thorn cedar]

yes

[late sapphire]

Ogryn is strongest

[unkempt knoll]

what does the psyker bring?

[late sapphire]

all of those except for tanking

at the same time, at that

[jovial juniper]

All of those yeah lmao

[nocturne dust]

Psyker is a glass cannon

emphasis on cannon

[unkempt knoll]

but i do agree ogryn needs work i hate all of his weapons but the shotgun

[keen pier]

What to run on a deimos MK iv blaze force sword?

[late sapphire]

uncanny slaughterer deflector, pick any 2

[nocturne dust]

Compared to vet mowing down a row of crushers with plasma or zealot surviving an unholy amount of everything?

[haughty star]

by pure damage numbers it's probably the most OP

[late sapphire]

uncanny if you're using it against armored enemies, slaughterer for general use, deflector if you're struggling with ranged

perks idk flak maniac

[cyan portal]

is fairly meta imo, 2 spare points

[late sapphire]

OGRYN IS STRONGEST

[jovial juniper]

Ogryn hasn't changed much so they are kinda on a good spot

[nocturne dust]

Counterpoint: Ogryn gets slapped around by bosses.

[haughty star]

uh what

[nocturne dust]

Fatshark, let Ogryn stagger bosses again

🙏

[late sapphire]

Give us knuckles so we can fistfight pogryns it would be so awesome

[nocturne dust]

Yes

[keen pier]

thanks this was actually really helpful bro

[haughty star]

i think ogryn can still make the chaos spawn and daemonhost it's bitch

[nocturne dust]

(I'm specifically referring to knockback, lol)

[keen pier]

100% can just need shield

[nocturne dust]

Shield? Ha

No

Gun

[keen pier]

no

[nocturne dust]

Yes

[haughty star]

shovel or gun

[late sapphire]

ogryn can make any boss its bitch it's called hitting f and holding down left click

[haughty star]

are real boss killers

shield can tank while doing some damage

but gun or mk3? shovel are where it's at

[hollow jolt]

I think it funny the only real issue Ogryn has is it could use more interesting weapons

well specifically ranged

[haughty star]

i think the ones it has are p interesting

kickback is skill issue correction

the others are cool

[late sapphire]

rumbler spam...

[hollow jolt]

they nerfed rumbler a ton :c

I like grenades

[haughty star]

kicky is still the GOAT

fuck them specialists

[nocturne dust]

eh, idk, the talent tree could use some work... the heavy spam is 🤮

[haughty star]

i like left tree ogryn

[nocturne dust]

Lights 😔

[haughty star]

feels good for what the class is

[hollow jolt]

the last thing I would expect an ogryn to do is hit "light"

[jovial juniper]

Hmmm
Kinda hard to say that Ogryn is the weakest

[nocturne dust]

Sure, and the last thing I would expect a Psyker to do is not fall to Chaos

[hollow jolt]

I mean it is, wait till the heretics learn what krak grenades are UwU

[nocturne dust]

I mean, I think Vet is clearly not in contention. Zealot literally just doesn't die.

[late sapphire]

ds zealot too op

[jovial juniper]

Yeah I'll wait until people stop sleeping on 40% rending Ogryn bleed everything to death

[nocturne dust]

I don't sleep on it, it works.

[jovial juniper]

I'll just wait until FS axes it
RIP brutal momentum shovel killing 4 crushers at once

[nocturne dust]

Still don't understand why they just keep slapping Ogryn

[late sapphire]

I know how to fix ogryn

Up ogryn move speeds to match canon speed

[nocturne dust]

Ogryns should be fast

🙏

[neat dome]

thanks for the tress. im not looking for pure meta or anything. just something that works well while i level up weapons on this class

[narrow lichen]

Nah ogryns should be able to trample, like who in therir right mind thinks a group of 4 to 5 foot skinny rotting grubbos should be able to stop a 10 foot tall behemoth

[lone ravine]

even if it just becomes a talent like how VT2 bardin slayer has the barge talent to stagger human sized enemies by dodging into them

[nocturne dust]

Go for assail then

[nocturne dust]

should be class passive honestly

tiny, slow dodges but they work

[lone ravine]

honestly each of the classes could use more passives

other than ogryns 20% dmg reduction and vets peak over cover

theres basically no class passives by default

[late sapphire]

enemies right in the path of the charge should instantly die i think

[nocturne dust]

the vet passive is so useless

[lone ravine]

i dont think ive used it once tbh

[nocturne dust]

wat's even the point of cover when enemies will nail you on the tiniest bit sticking out

[lone ravine]

its better to just find a wall, peak out for a second then dodge back anyways

[late sapphire]

cover? you mean the funny obstacles you can hop on?

[jovial juniper]

No, the downed Ogryn

[fiery stratus]

Who gaming?

[strong gulch]

I can play a couple games.

[jovial juniper]

I'm dying my light rn

[fiery stratus]

good game

@strong gulch o7

[radiant frigate]

is that a thing

[nocturne dust]

Vets can peak out when crouching behind cover

very useful very good

so useful you never see it because of how good it is

[jovial juniper]

It's so good to get pushed away from cover just because

[radiant frigate]

i thought that was a basic feature

[nocturne dust]

only for vets

[radiant frigate]

xd

never knew

[silent wigeon]

I just had an instance where I insta died, I mutie grabbed me right as I was shrieking and I just insta dropped

Never seen that before

[clear heath]

if you get grabbed during peril explosion animation, you instantly explode

[radiant frigate]

were about to explodify

[silent wigeon]

ye 100%

I pressed shriek though

I assume the mutie grabbing me was like a bad animation cancle lol

[wintry niche]

The real brain burst

[iron acorn]

What kind of build should I go for a starting psyker

[wintry niche]

Grab a gun and slap assail, other builds work well with lvl 30

Kinda a pain the lvling part

[covert juniper]

I’m trying to make a build with high uptime on lightning but am having surviability issues. Any recommendations

[nocturne dust]

Focus on dodging, stagger, sliding, and blocking, not toughness

[covert juniper]

Ok

[nocturne dust]

and also damage, have damage. It's important to have high enough damage to not have cascading failures on Auric.

[raven mountain]

At the minimum, shriek, not bubble, makes lightning at least able to clear hordes. Once the horde is dead, you can focus on just short-casting the smite to stagger the remaining elites.

Too many enemies takes too long to chain together to chain-stagger the whole room.

Shouldn't need a wild amount of peril reduction or management to achieve at least that much.

[jovial juniper]

If you're still having surviving issues after a couple days hit me up
I'll cook some weird high toughness Scrier's Smite build that will most likely only work for my play style

Kek

[nocturne dust]

I did a high-toughness build on Inferno and it actually made me feel flimsier than when I was testing using only (broken) mettle and quietude on Inferno for toughness

[raven mountain]

Shit, most of the durability on inferno feels like it's just EE, dodging, and the occasional lmb stagger.

[nocturne dust]

"Could I interest you in tough lightning?"

[raven mountain]

Ooo, actually, I do take the toughness on warp kill, and it's pretty common to see 40-60 kill streaks with inferno.

Also, ngl, I'd drop kinetic block for warp rider. Can't block anyway when lightning is out.

[nocturne dust]

Soulstealer is good yes. It was fighting mettle for a spot (mettle already just filled you up while you were fighting) but... not anymore, lol

[raven mountain]

And I'd go the fast-walk quell over MM. Only getting warp kills with lightning hands and shriek!

Guns aren't smite. 😛

[nocturne dust]

but fast-walk is literally useless

Like, if you pull out your melee, MM will do something

whereas you can just move faster with dodging/sliding

[raven mountain]

But melee isn't lightning hands.

[nocturne dust]

They didn't say they were only using lightning

and even then, again, Mind in Motion is literally useless

[raven mountain]

Not getting meme trolling about smyker. It's fine, you can continue your day.

[nocturne dust]

no

[late sapphire]

peak

[ripe obsidian]

Uh

[nocturne dust]

Pay no attention meatsack. That is not a bug revealing our continual advancement in deceiving humans. The Machine God protects.

[vague furnace]

What's the dump stat on all 4 staffs, revolver, auto pistol, bolt pistol and Las pistol?

[nocturne dust]

warp res for all staves but voidstrike which dumps blast radius

the guns dump mobility if they have it, generally speaking

Collateral is also a viable dump on guns if you don't like stagger

[vague furnace]

Ok ty. Dump stat on blaze sword, dueling, shock maul, chainsword, tactical axe?

[nocturne dust]

warp res, cleave damage, mobility, mobility, mobility

In that order

[vague furnace]

Cleave on dueling instead of mobility?

[nocturne dust]

cleave on dueling does like 5 damage between 60 and 80, it doesn't change any breakpoints

You can dump mobility

but you lose a smidgen of speed.

Either way, neither really matters tho

[ornate hamlet]

Deadvoid spitting facts

[ripe obsidian]

It was an omen. The 4th person in that match did nothing, died, then quit.

[late sapphire]

cleave damage only adds ~7% infected and unarmored damage, specifically. it's not useful whatsoever

[sinful peak]

what could I drop to fit one with the warp

[mossy oyster]

higui is it time to make perfectionist work yet

[nocturne dust]

a lot

[jovial juniper]

Grut me

I'm enjoying smite atm

[sinful peak]

both?

[jovial juniper]

Don't want to go back to Perfectionism

[nocturne dust]

You could drop all three of those nodes

including the peril gen minor node

[late sapphire]

smite shield dd... peak...

[nocturne dust]

what is this supposed to be for

[sinful peak]

voidstrike

[nocturne dust]

Hm, well, bubble is an odd choice for voidstrike

smite just for Psykinetics is... eh, especially on a bubble build

[late sapphire]

if you want to keep this structure drop the three in the bottom left and grab one with the warp and warp splitting

[nocturne dust]

and you don't have warp splitting

It's a weird build. I would agree with Bratwurst and go for warp splitting and OWTW using the 3 points you can get from the left corner

[sinful peak]

I need 4 for that

[nocturne dust]

3, swap the minor node beneath the aura

the 5% ranged damage is not worth needing an extra talent point

[sinful peak]

👍

[jovial juniper]

In fact I might just cook some Perfectionism later

[nocturne dust]

#psyker-class message

The duality of Higui

[jovial juniper]

Scrier's Smite Warp Syphon is just so much fun

(specially because Voidstrike is my staff)

Warp Charges are so free

Toughness is so free

I played DIIIVIIIXG yesterday or something along those lines

On Gloriana

You know how you get ambushed right after the shuttle?
Yeah I held smite for 30+ seconds there

Bursters exploded everywhere

Dogs died

Muties kept screaming

It was glorious

[mossy oyster]

we must force perfectionist

into the meta

(we will bug the game to let us take perfectionist + 15 second DD stacks)

https://tenor.com/view/picklejuicelover69-gif-1483426411005875907

[south gull]

IDK why I waited this long to run knife psyker

[nocturne dust]

No DD on Voidstrike?

wack

[jovial juniper]

It was never supposed to be a voidstrike build

Eto, blegh

It was also a Nexus Flurry Voidstrike

Then I noticed that I'll be spamming Scrier's

[vague furnace]

What's the blessings meta for each staff now?

[jovial juniper]

So it became a Nexus Surge Voidstrike

[nocturne dust]

Inferno: Nexus + Blaze Away
Voidstrike: Nexus + Surge
Electrokinetic: Nexus + Surge for LMB spam, or Nexus + Warp Flurry for RMB spam
Voidblast: Nexus + Blazing Spirit

[vague furnace]

Nexus on all of them?

[nocturne dust]

Yes, but notably Nexus is normally the second choice and not the first

It's just consistently second-best or combos well with the first choice

[ripe obsidian]

The tox gas modifier in maelstrom turns people's brains off

"Fight in the gas? Or wait 15 seconds? Better run straight into the gas and die."

[nocturne dust]

Patience is not a skill known to gamers.

[zinc phoenix]

In fairness the game trains you that being still is death

[vague furnace]

@nocturne dust what's the perks on each staff?

[nocturne dust]

It does feel awkward to just sit on the edge of the pox gas with the one other reject with a brain while the other half of the team slowly dies

[late sapphire]

inferno 😔
electrokinetic 😔
voidblast 😔

[nocturne dust]

wat

[nocturne dust]

Flak + [preference], generally. I use crit chance on voidblast, voidstrike, and inferno. I use unyielding on EK.

but there's an argument for maniac and carapace depending on the staff.

heck, EK can even make use of +elite

[fiery stratus]

Anyone wanna squad up? I need rock throwing practice my aim is shit now.

[nocturne dust]

I can

[fiery stratus]

o7

[ripe obsidian]

I swapped to a shield build and finally won.

Shield stops gas just enough to keep people alive

[fiery stratus]

@nocturne dust ogryn left nades behind for some reason?

even though hes low

[nocturne dust]

maybe also rock?

[fiery stratus]

nah its bomb i saw it before

[ripe obsidian]

I probably should have stopped trying. But I am stubborn.

[hearty wolf]

@haughty star So I tried out that build you recommended and holy shit is it so much better than what I was running. I already was gapping people in damage, elite kills etc but now the gap has almost doubled. It looks like they aren't doing anything lmao

It's much easier to play imo too

The only thing is getting toughness back can be a hit hard at times but like

don't take damage in the first place xd?

[vague furnace]

@nocturne dust what's the blessings for force sword, dueling sword and shock maul?

[zinc phoenix]

Which one?

[hearty wolf]

@zinc phoenix

[late sapphire]

force sword - uncanny, slaughterer deflector, pick 2 as needed, deimos and illisi preferring uncanny and slaughterer respectively
dueling sword - uncanny riposte
shock maul - skullcrusher high voltage

[zinc phoenix]

Oh yeah. I personally drop wildfire for the top toughness regen talent (combos well with assail) and the toughness from SG I drop for crack of bone

[late sapphire]

there is a fairly comprehensive guide in pins

[strong gulch]

Ye. My chores are done.

[zinc phoenix]

IMO being able to combo assail and melee to generate nutty toughness is very nice

[fiery stratus]

we're in one on hab dreyko on finale

[strong gulch]

kk

[clear heath]

I'm down to play too if you still have room

[hearty wolf]

This build doesn't go all the way down to wildfire so would be a bigger point investment.

By Crack of Bone seems anti-synergistic in this build because of Warp Rider too

[late sapphire]

He means perilous combustion

[zinc phoenix]

Whatever the fire trait is in the top of the tree, I mix them up

[hearty wolf]

o ye

[late sapphire]

PC is peak though dont drop it

[hearty wolf]

I found it's too good, like

I'm killing stuff I have 0 knowledge of

Around corners

[late sapphire]

Splash damage on elite kill

What's not to love

[hearty wolf]

I don't think I can play Zealot again ngl

[vague furnace]

@late sapphire same weapons but perks?

[hearty wolf]

Although hitting F and ignoring everything seems cool. I feel like it's a crutch

[vague furnace]

Force sord, dueling and shock maul

[zinc phoenix]

What’s nice is you can use it to get toughness back very fast. As you’ve noticed it can be challenging sometimes. The combo of crack + sg + quietude + assail weaving generates a ton of it and makes you very unkillable in melee

And when you want to keep it high for WU + SG + Staff you just don’t melee f

[strong gulch]

Matt and Void (idk if anyone else) is at the end of a map. There's probably room for both of us.

[fiery stratus]

Yeah we have another slot

Loading back to mourningstar now

[hearty wolf]

That's fair. It's just two insanely valuable nodes to give it up, makes me want to cry. Psyker already has very little DR so giving up that 20% might be an ouchie.

I think it's really going to depend how much damage I continue to take though. If everything is dead, I won't take any damage anyway. Need to play more

[nocturne dust]

lmao it DCed me right at the end

[late sapphire]

depends on what you are using it for really, flak maniac is general purpose...
on deimos dueling sword or shock maul if your other weapons are bad vs crushers swap flak for carapace,
deimos and dueling sword are good vs bosses so you can swap flak for unyielding if you are meleeing bosses etc

[hearty wolf]

I've got an assignment due which requires me to do a whole ass video recording for 15m of me talking due in in 11h and I need to sleep but game...

[ornate hamlet]

I might be misremembering, but psyker seems to have a generous amount of those 5% TDR nodes

[strong gulch]

fart for the emperor

[late sapphire]

imo endurance sucks cause it doesn't work in the lingering effect

[nocturne dust]

#psyker-class message

They gave good advice, but I would replace riposte on DS with either thrust or agile for more defensive play

[late sapphire]

one with the warp is almost a straight upgrade over endurance

[late sapphire]

thrust ds

[wintry niche]

Anyone fancy Empyric Shock?

[nocturne dust]

It's good and I stand by that 😤

[late sapphire]

just attack twice

[jovial juniper]

That's the LMB build enabler

[nocturne dust]

there's power in being able to 1-hit enemies

[wintry niche]

Yeah I'm having fun with this build but there are a few nodes I wish I had to crank some extra dmg

[vague furnace]

Dump stat, blessing and perks for revolver?

[late sapphire]

which mark

zarona takes hand cannon surgical
agripinaa takes hand cannon crucian roulette
dump mobility
perks once again depend, flak maniac unyielding carapace

@vague furnace guide in pins
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959

[vague furnace]

Mark 12a

11a

[late sapphire]

IIa is zarona

[hearty wolf]

I can understand that line of thought.

My rationale you can stay in Scrier's for quite awhile with a dense amount of enemies and when you do hit the lingering effect, you're often using assail which means you should be safe(er) since everything is dying, dead and you should be at range. Obviously not how it always goes but that's the way I aim to try and play.

I wonder how much true uptime you have with Scrier's in a 30 minute run away. It really sucks it doesn't apply to that lingering effect...Then it would be insane

[late sapphire]

I usually burn through sg fairly quickly depending on the situation

one with the warp is always up

[hearty wolf]

I guess that goes to show it also depends on how you position and what not

I kind of enjoy psyker because if you position wrong, you just flat out die

I find that funny and satisfying

[ornate hamlet]

Getting into the dumbest shit possible with kinetic deflection

[haughty star]

glad to hear it worked well for ya

there's some point flexibility there too like i personally don't run kinetic, i grab the one on the right and forego the damage resist from scriers for the reloady one above disrupt, also if you're gooed at keeping dd stacks up you can drop the last dd one to grab soulstealer for more survival etc.

[wind halo]

How much HP does Psyker need to have reach impt breakpoints? I have 203 HP rn is that enough?

[kindred edge]

Make sure one curio also has 20% sniper resist and that should be enough

[haughty star]

i personally don't buff health at all

i go for all ability regen 2 toughness regen and one stam regen, and toughness on all 3

[kindred edge]

Yeah, I'd argue that toughness vs. HP is pretty much up to taste, though. I've seen decent arguments for any combination.

I assume if he's worried about max HP that it's because he wants to avoid one-shots, that's why sniper resist. Sniper resist is one of those that is only needed for some folks

[late sapphire]

sniper does about 98 damage with 20% sniper resist

[wind halo]

I recently saw that its recommended to get at least 200 HP for bursters so just confirming whether I am still missing something.

[wind halo]

Alright so with 1 sniper resist, I won't die instantly if I have one wound with 200hp.

[late sapphire]

i'd go for 205, i.e. one 21% curio one 5% perk and the 10% node above warp rider

[wind halo]

I only have 20% HP so its 203 in total rn

[late sapphire]

close enough

[strong gulch]

Thanks for games @nocturne dust

Thanks @clear heath

[fiery stratus]

Anyone else wanna squad up for orebrick?

[vague furnace]

@late sapphire it says the electro staffs dump stat is crit damage. But every9 e says the dump stst is warp resist. Am I supposed to believe the guide or what everyone on here says

[late sapphire]

Pygex is usually right

usually

[nocturne dust]

The guide is questionable in places. It's written by one guy. 🤷‍♂️

It's generally good advice.

[vague furnace]

Hmmmmmm...

Well I can ask people on here gor the dump stst. People usually agree on the same one. But the blessings and perks seem universal

But for sure the dueling blade dump stat is cleave? And void strikes is blast size? Revolver, machine pistol, laspistol, chainsword and tactical axe is mobility?

[patent jacinth]

Yes

[nocturne dust]

For optimality, yes.

[patent jacinth]

Zealot tanks mobility on DS because can’t rely on ranged clear but yeah that is all right

[late sapphire]

No

[nocturne dust]

Even on zealot it doesn't make that much sense

[late sapphire]

cleave damage is 7% infested and unarmored damage

[nocturne dust]

because cleave damage doesn't do enough damage to change breakpoints for how many times you have to hit even horde enemies

[late sapphire]

unless you somehow manage to hit a poxwalker with the 3rd cleave target on the head 9 times

[nocturne dust]

I would be impressed more than anything else if you could do that consistently

[late sapphire]

Maaaaybe with some super specific builds you could have a situation where it hits a breakpoint somewhere but i dont really believe it

[waxen jackal]

Hey does anyone know the mk 3 knife combo?

[jovial juniper]

Light light light

[mossy oyster]

PA -> H2 -> L3

or special(punch) -> H2 -> L3

[waxen jackal]

Cool. So same as 6. Lol you were helping me earlier too

[mossy oyster]

yea pretty much

mk3 just has everything being a strikedown so it'll naturally do more dmg

[bleak maple]

First time gunker

it was very fun

I understand now

[fiery stratus]

Anyone want to hop in for maelstrom?

[analog agate]

I can't stand the pox gas modifier. Pretty much an instant quit for me now. It takes sooooo long to dissapate. And quickly spews again. It is just a waiting game the whole match

[bleak maple]

Just be fast lol

[strong gulch]

me last night after eating cheese

[winter siren]

so i found its best to step into the zone and trigger it then back out fast, wait for it to stop which seems fast if nobody is inside, then push through while its on CD

or charge through fast and use shouty vet or preacher to maintain toughness

[bleak maple]

There's triggers??

I just thought it was a timed cycle this entire time

[winter siren]

when you step into an area with the puss nodules they trigger and puff out gas

[bleak maple]

Idk what to do with this knowledge

[winter siren]

run some pox gas missions

[bleak maple]

I'm used to just zooming between safe spots after haord clear

[winter siren]

what you guys think of this with blazing voidblast and blazing illisi

[bleak maple]

My brother in christ the overstimulation I just received from looking at this

[jovial juniper]

Psy Leeching could go into Emphatic Evasion

[thorn cedar]

i hate these squished trees

[bleak maple]

With brain burst yeah might as well skip phy leech

[thorn cedar]

i feel like im reading a mini bible from a hotel room

[winter siren]

yeah only 15% toughness, good point, ill try the swap

[thorn cedar]

also with brain burst

take the right EP mod, not left

you absolutely want the stack on elite kill instead of the flat %

unless you find that you basically never end up needing/wanting to chain multiple brain bursts

[bleak maple]

I think they're going for a soul fire build

with hoard clear might as well go left

[thorn cedar]

yea but EP is only doin stuff for BB so

no point making it good with anything but BB

if youre BBing something its probably an elite like 40% of the time

with the other 60% being an even split between all specials and "that one fucking sniper"

[bleak maple]

unless it's a boss :/

[winter siren]

yeah almost always elites or monsters

[bleak maple]

and BB doesn't hold up as much in higher levels

[thorn cedar]

holds up a lot better when you regain your BB on kill

[bleak maple]

say you get a crusher patrol tho

[thorn cedar]

honestly though?

i wouldnt EP at all

but am just pointin out that interaction for ya

[winter siren]

im just missing the BP on something, think it was the yellow pajama gunners, left with a sneeze of hp after the BB

[thorn cedar]

lmao

pajama gunners

[bleak maple]

Warp charges would probably be the best

[thorn cedar]

or DD

what weps were this with

[bleak maple]

Ya get more out of it passively

[thorn cedar]

right blaze stuff

oh man yea

[bleak maple]

Same for DD but warp charges would probably be easier

[thorn cedar]

dd would be a lot better

[bleak maple]

DD gets on my nerves sometimes

[thorn cedar]

my honest opinion

is dont look at your stacks

your mission is kill

they will happen or they wont

[bleak maple]

Yeah but when you get that unlucky random chance for one of them up high or low or behind ya

Especially with a voidblast staff

range is gonna be problem

[winter siren]

most people forget you can Lclick with it and kill pretty well

[bleak maple]

Yeah my point still stands you need good los

[thorn cedar]

im biased, i have always loved disrupt destiny

if i dont have it equipped my brain is left in a permanent anxiety state because im not fulfilling the dopamine hit of killing bluebois

[winter siren]

DD feels very feast or famine to me, not very reliable

[bleak maple]

Gunkers and assail imo best for DD

you're already focusing on targets with that play style

[winter siren]

but i havent played much since update

[bleak maple]

If you've got the accuracy go for DD

if you're just hoard clear go WS

If ya running BB I'd change it up a lil

[winter siren]

i was mainly trying this specific build out to deal with the multiple bosses, i get 3 free BB with bonus dam, then 1-2 more to max peril, then vent, then i get more BB

but maybe its the wrong strat

[thorn cedar]

burgles be like that

[bleak maple]

If ya wanna abuse BB I'd get bolstered shields so you can max out kinetic resonance

[winter siren]

with prescience and psykinetics aura already get decent CD, but yeah that could push the numbers up a bit

[thorn cedar]

oh its not to use your ult again sooner

its cause two shields = two kinetic resonances

you can double the buff instantly

if you pair that with a blue stim you basically machine gun brain bursts

[bleak maple]

[thorn cedar]

very funny

[wind spruce]

You don't need accuracy for DD

[mossy oyster]

just kill stuff good

[strong gulch]

Trauma DD gaming.

[thorn cedar]

mission kill

[lethal lagoon]

Accuracy? Sir, this is Darktide.

[wind spruce]

You have a crit node right there for the picking. Drop battle meditation or crack of bone for it, they are both horrifically bad for your build

[lethal lagoon]

If you can move your character and the camera at the same time, you are qualified to have accuracy in this game.

[thorn cedar]

you, too, can perfect Smite!

[vernal flax]

looking for a solo build since apparently I have to fend for myself in this team game

[bleak maple]

I've seen heresy players, the only good accuracy some of them have are for barrels and pox bursters

[thorn cedar]

thats how the teamwork happens

four people on the absolute knife's edge dance with death in a tempo nobody can predict

it takes a couple tries tho

[vernal flax]

anyone know of one? I'm using the site fatshark sends me to

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ba81400-4c60-4362-9756-f93428dfc021/azyr-psyker-smite-venting-shriek-empowered-psionics-auric-ready

[thorn cedar]

well the pedantic answer is that any build is a solo build if youre good enough

[vernal flax]

I'm new and don't want to burden my team

[thorn cedar]

what level/diff

[vernal flax]

ok then

[vernal flax]

I'm level 27 I think in my build

I'm trying not to use guns

[thorn cedar]

ye just keep doing your thing then

[vernal flax]

but I guess no way around not using a rifle

[thorn cedar]

at whatever difficulty you want

[vernal flax]

I want to help my team in damnation more

[thorn cedar]

cause you're still learning basics

[vernal flax]

true

[thorn cedar]

and you dont have a full tree yet for build recommends

so just pick whatever feels comfy

[vernal flax]

also true

[thorn cedar]

and focus on the damage youre taking

[bleak maple]

Okay so I just wanted to see how stupid it could be to machine gun BB and

[thorn cedar]

and why youre taking it

[thorn cedar]

and then avoid that damage happening again

and ofc yknow, kill some shit too

[vernal flax]

thanks man!

[thorn cedar]

lmao

yea at some point there's a limit

[vernal flax]

I'm having fun, and I'll keep at it

[thorn cedar]

two walls + blue is kinda close to the same speed

[zinc phoenix]

That was so much work for so little outcome

[thorn cedar]

yea

youre kinda capped by the animation

[bleak maple]

Lemme swap to damage stim

The bodies don't fade good to know

[thorn cedar]

the blood never really washes off

[bleak maple]

Imma be honest kinda mid

Did more damage I guess

but a limit for sure

Yeah tbh with 2 shields and a damage stim I got about 40% of it's health

The multiple shields just help reach speed cap I guess

Still I abuse the double shield when running BB very good for bosses or spacing them out for more general BB usage

[thorn cedar]

gives you protection too

like , yknow

you still get a shield

so thats nice too

[bleak maple]

very true

[thorn cedar]

love wall

[bleak maple]

Shame BB does nothing against shields

[nocturne dust]

They should buff BB

Fatshark plz 🙏

[primal plume]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkgW1cKJa9Y

I want Smite to be replaced by a beefed up version of this

[winter siren]

you mean the top crit node? did ok for a warmup

[haughty star]

When blazing illisi crits does it crit on all enemies it hits?

[late sapphire]

Yes but only the ones that survive get soulblaze & wildfire procs

[dense valley]

classic fatshark implementation

[wind spruce]

No I mean the 5% crit node just above kinetic deflection. If you're running blazing spirit on both your weapons you're gonna want that

[wind spruce]

I love how everything's "classic fatshark" even when it makes perfect sense to work that way

[quartz barn]

The no soulblaze on kill thing actually makes sense code wise tho

After all why would the be anything other than hit > effect

If the hit kills the effect would never apply because theres no need

[nocturne dust]

I mean, codewise, it should be hit -> effect -> damage -> dead, not hit -> damage -> dead

[quartz barn]

This crashes games btw

[nocturne dust]

precisely because there are things that trigger from effects that are valuable to the player

[quartz barn]

Burning corpses etc

[nocturne dust]

Badly coded games, sure

[quartz barn]

Because it forces a number decrease on a null value

[nocturne dust]

🤔 no?

hit enemy

enemy has effect

then enemy take damage

now enemy dead

The only issue is if for some reason you treat corpses like regular enemies for hits, which you really shouldn't for obvious lag reasons (and also if you did have them as an object of a similar class, you could just have HP still be defined or better yet intercept HP modifications and just null them). There's actually quite a many ways you could do it.

Bottom line, the issue isn't a coding one. It can be coded.

[spice veldt]

and wildfire does spread from corpses already right

[nocturne dust]

It does, yes

[quartz barn]

Technically it can only spread from corpses

Because the enemy has to die first before it can proc

[nocturne dust]

Not true, they could've had an 'on death' call of some sort.

It doesn't seem to be the case since wildfire just magically works still on already-dead enemies, lol.

But I haven't bothered datamining whatever mess they have going on.

[quartz barn]

Ngl its prob a if hp > 0 'alive status = 1, if hp = 0 'alive status = 0 thing

And wildfire checks for alive = 0

Havent datamined either

[summer prairie]

Only purg sets corpses on fire, they probably just liked the effect but didn't consider wildfire

it applies stacks to them as usual, so the corpse may have any number of stacks and then spreads them normally

but when an enemy dies it doesn't retain stacks, rather purg applies more post-death

[nocturne dust]

My guess is that wildfire is an 'on soulblaze expiration' with a secondary check for being alive.

[dense valley]

I think this depends on how crit is implemented in this situation like is crit is determined per action or crit is determined per target
example: true aim you know the next shot gonna crit but with the bleed node on zealot crit chance is calculated per target with bleed stack

the difference is if it is per target u wouldnt know if it a crit until after u hit them whereas true aim you know its a crit no matter what

[spice veldt]

Scourge isn't calculated per target with bleed
you generate stacks on hitting a bleeding target

you can see scourge stack on your buff bar

[dense valley]

if thats the case then theres no excuse soulblaze on crit cant proc in tandem with the hit that kill the target

[spice veldt]

ye

just an edge case that they didn't think about

[restive slate]

Is it acceptable to play Smite but not continuously?

Just wanna throw enemies around

[dense valley]

i think itd help much more with force sword that had worse clear

[plucky flax]

Just do what you want mane.

Spam it the whole game.

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-sheev-palpatine-unlimited-power-power-force-gif-5073064

[fiery stratus]

This message brought to you by: "You can just crouch"

[nocturne dust]

Couldn't crouch through that corruption I see

[fiery stratus]

Nah farts stinky

[quartz barn]

You can do the same with flamers, but its tricky since they shoot a beam at you

Best way to do it is by jumping and then sliding so they shoot upwards, requires you to time your jump with their attack

[silent wigeon]

I personally don't care when I've Smiters on my team, more kills for me

[wintry niche]

Just play however you want, you can build a very supportive psyker which the team will benefit from if they pick off the enemies you smite, some would argue the DPS would go down but a good support psyker definitely could make things easier

[cosmic sigil]

the only smyker I mind is the one on the other side of the room smiting the horde around him and not the horde around me trying do to the objective tbh

[plucky flax]

Mfw I was called selfish in war for clutching.

[nocturne dust]

Your fault for not playing Darktide 😤

I say while not playing Darktide

[plucky flax]

The guy was very vocal about me being on knife whilst he was on ds4.

Both on zealot.

I recorded that game too. He went on a rant on voice chat when I was clutching.

"META OP KNIFE BUILD"

[nocturne dust]

I'd love to see their reaction to a knife + EP smite + surge lmb macro build

[plucky flax]

I would have clutched much easier on my regular combat axe stealth martyrdom build.

Just stealth and ress.

[radiant frigate]

knife 🤢

[plucky flax]

I prefer knife over ds on zealot.

[quartz barn]

Nice it seems that clandestium gets the hardest AM combos

Other variant is extra bursters, barrels, mutant wave

[mossy oyster]

peak

[plucky flax]

Extra barrels at the start

[mossy oyster]

if my memory serves correctly

on the extra barrel modifier

there are about 4-6 barrels you can blow up

right after the starting drop

[jovial juniper]

Warp Charges

[mossy oyster]

might even be 7 or 8

maybe

[radiant frigate]

why that

[stuck sinew]

Look who you're replying to

[plucky flax]

Better mobility better horde clear

[plucky flax]

And people mald more.

[quartz barn]

Random: dislikes knife zealot because bad

[plucky flax]

Every 3 days there's a post on reddit hating knife zealot.

[quartz barn]

Also random: dislikes knife zealot because gigachad solo player

[plucky flax]

But never ds zealot.

Even though zealot stole ds from us!

[quartz barn]

Then again i somehow got a pub to complain about getting left behind while i was on vet with psword

So its prob just me being selfish

Rightfully so tho, i still need 20ish rescues and people keep killing crushers before my krak does

[molten saddle]

Damage % on the staff isnt relevant is it?

Ive got 4 80%s only one bad is damage

[digital hill]

Why wouldn't it be relevant? 20% of missing damage is not insignificant, and the staff is designed to literally do, uh, damage.

Unless there is some secret staff lore hax Im unaware of, then you will give me your secrets.

[jovial juniper]

Inferno is the only staff you could have low damage

[molten saddle]

^^ thats exactly why i wasnt sure

[digital hill]

That damage is going to be missing from the soulblaze dots, which would make the staff kind of useless

lol

[jovial juniper]

Not really

Soulblaze shenanigans is dictated by the Burn stat

Damage stat is just from the direct hit, which is naturally low anyways

[digital hill]

And diminishing the dps from the staffs primary and secondary attacks in applying those dots means frontloading damage is going to weak. Which imho, just means you're losing out on further dps from an already weak staff.

Seems crazy. Anything can work, though!

I mean there's people in here that use guns like they're some kind of vet.

[molten saddle]

But if dmg is only from physical burn is dot separate stat

[digital hill]

You're making an already weak attack even weaker lol

Just crazy.

[molten saddle]

Trying todo a electronstaff atm thats why i was checking how similar it was

[digital hill]

"You know what? This flame is puny. You know what would be better? A candle"

[jovial juniper]

It's because that weak attack doesn't matter

Burn stat really high

[digital hill]

Man, I do just fine with my inferno at 80 and burn at 80.

It melts shit.

[molten saddle]

Burn and cloud radius

[jovial juniper]

Same for Flamer

[digital hill]

And that's 80, too. IDK.

Warp stat is useless.

Go for actual uselessness, instead of quasi-uselessness.

lol

[jovial juniper]

Yeah it's not dictated by damage

[digital hill]

So what I want to do is weaken the primary attack that I use to stagger enemies, just making the whole time to kill even lower.

Aye.

Logic.

[molten saddle]

Damage is physical damage

[digital hill]

When all can be 80

[molten saddle]

Like strikes impacts

[digital hill]

Why not?

[molten saddle]

If youve got it sure. But dmg isnt on staff for inferno isnt as importnat

[jovial juniper]

Your primary is already weak

[molten saddle]

What im unsure of is electro

[digital hill]

So make it..weaker. Yes

Logic.

I am astounded.

You're right.

[jovial juniper]

Yeah because it's meaningless

[molten saddle]

Just tested it?

[digital hill]

[digital hill]

[plucky flax]

Damn I blew up and we wipe.

Too much powah.

[molten saddle]

KahBO

OOM

[quartz barn]

Warp unbound gamer

[plucky flax]

Warp unbound won't stop you from blowing up.

[quartz barn]

Just run bubble instead

[jovial juniper]

Nah
We're running Scrier's Warp Syphon

We spammed Unbound so hard that we don't know if it's up

"Yo, am I unbound?"
PoW animation

"Damn it"

[fringe garden]

There is a mod that puts a 10 second countdown in the middle of your screen for warp unbound

It's fantastic. I highly suggest it

[upper sun]

nah the issue isnt dying when its up

its the split second before warp unbound is triggered and after gaze is at 100

[zinc phoenix]

Exactly

I have no trouble keeping track of the duration

I have blown myself up multiple times because the transition bugs out

And lemme tell you when the massive damage machine goes down team wipe is pretty quick 😂

[indigo plank]

Just tried scriers for the first time

It's neat, not sure if I want Seers for the CDR or Prescience for the extra points

[wintry niche]

How'd it go?

[indigo plank]

Definitely feels like taking the training wheels off

[wintry niche]

What weapons are you running it with?

[indigo plank]

FS/EK + Assail

[jovial juniper]

It's preference really

[indigo plank]

Deciding between the Deimos JAB and the Illisi's brainless moveset

But you'll take my zap staff from my cold dead hands

[indigo plank]

Knocks 24s down to 18s so it's nothing to sneeze at, but you're right also not the end of the world

Oh wait I mustve had stacks of something

Just tested it again and it only knocked it down to 22s

[jovial juniper]

Well you have EK for single target
Assail for numbers
So you're kinda free to choose your your melee

[plucky flax]

Gazer with surge

That's hard mode.

[indigo plank]

Is it?

[plucky flax]

Ye I am not good enough to do it.

[indigo plank]

Last mission was a blast but it was only gas

There's kind of a rhythm to it, you basically just go into seers and start stack farming when you feel the danger ramping up so that you're just full 100 riding the warp unbound in time for the bulwark wave

Danger ramping up could just be walking into a new room because you know, Darktide

[plucky flax]

Not creeping flames spam with surge

[indigo plank]

I did pop once though because I didnt realize you couldnt use Sciers once you're in the "OHFUCKOHSHIT" anim

I figured "Oh it's off CD so if I pop it, I'll pretty much blow my load at 1 stack but I'll get the 10s"

Mashing F like "Uh oh"

I'll be honest I have no idea how to build wizard but so far it feels alright

[jovial juniper]

Used to
EK is famous for building tons of peril
Scrier's build tons of peril
Unbound wasn't a thing back then

[indigo plank]

Oh I crutch Empyric Resolve like a mf

It basically made psyker playable on my levelling journey when I found it

I used to run shriek because it's safe, low CD, and easy to use

I was proud that I took way less damage than usual, which I don't know if it was just me playing more cautiously because of the new build or if I was just more on top of my game

Either way I'll get humbled by Hab Dreyko/Gloriana next QP

[radiant frigate]

"crutching" on ER sounds so weird to me

[plucky flax]

If you like it use it no crutch.

If a zealot play well it's because he's crutching on OP knife.

[nocturne dust]

Imagine crutching on skill

Bad, not good. Use only most OP builds. Minimize your skill.

[indigo plank]

Honestly with how much it makes or breaks the class for me, I consider it a crutch for nobody else but myself

[jovial juniper]

Oh yeah
Smite time

[indigo plank]

I just cant go without or I'll probably spend half the match quelling lol

[indigo plank]

(is smite good I really didnt like it when I did the penance)

[nocturne dust]

EP smite build is potentially one of the most OP things in the game

[hollow jolt]

M1 psyker UwU

[indigo plank]

Mmm but like

Bees

Or instant BB build

Much fun

[quartz barn]

Smite with ep is very strong, only thing to look out for is the empowered ep cast into empowered ep cast

[radiant frigate]

yes very true i should start using dclaw on all my melee builds

[quartz barn]

Smite without ep can kinda clutch but is useless 90% of the time

[late sapphire]

trivial small change: drop warp expenditure (it sucks) and grab One With The Warp (it doesn't suck)

[quartz barn]

Cause, you know, why stunlock something and wait for others to kill when you can just kill it yourself

[jovial juniper]

It's good but boring
A proper smite build will handle mixed hordes pretty well, it'll just take some time and there will be an melee enemy attacking you so you have to constantly manage your dodges

[quartz barn]

This is only when you're in the middle of a horde, since smite doesnt 360

Otherwise you can just sit there

[jovial juniper]

It's hilariously boring

[quartz barn]

Just stand with your back against the wall and hold rmb i guess

[jovial juniper]

You better have map awareness
Don't get cornered while smiting

Don't get cornered in general

Now that's a better advice

[indigo plank]

One with the warp was really nice, I'll do some shuffling

[late sapphire]

Similarly you can consider dropping the assail subnodes to grabbing warp splitting (it works on assail and does more than ethereal shards) and melee speed - depending on how much you use your melee/assail

[zinc phoenix]

That would be some wacky crits

[wintry niche]

Is Soulstealer necessary for Heresy+?

[quartz barn]

Nope

[wintry niche]

I actually died from ranged fire in a heresy game, first time

[broken carbon]

i’m awful with map names but the last time i died to ranged fire was the mid event where its only one data interrogator and a ton of elites spawn on the far side,

40 gunners just materialized behind me and obliterated me

[jovial juniper]

Sounds like Comms Plex

Just need the med station on the same room to confirm

[plucky flax]

Maybe chasm logistratum.

[indigo plank]

Popped 3 times on that one

WE GOT SOME LEARNING TO DO

[queen fog]

Life of a witch is a perilous one

Good effort for trying tho

[indigo plank]

Going with the build I posted earlier with those two nodes dropped to get warp splitting, also dropped warp expenditure for One With The Warp

[broken carbon]

yarp

[indigo plank]

Dont have time tonight to try it out but tomorrow's my work friday so I'm hype

[broken carbon]

commsplex

[indigo plank]

I will miss that assail CD but I'd like to think they come back relatively quickly anyways

I'll tell myself if I'm using them efficiently, it's just weening off spammy habits

[late sapphire]

Warp splitting gives you an extra target if you have any peril (same as ethereal shards) and one more if you are above 50%

So if you toss em while at higher peril say during warp unbound they cleave an extra target

• obvious melee / benefits

[molten saddle]

Anyone got a good inferno staff build

Just realised all my stat points got reset and i cant remember how i did it

[jovial juniper]

Something something you could swap Penetration of the soul for Empyric Resolve

But like, Inferno doesn't really struggle with peril generation

Nor with toughness generation

Then you could use those 2 points to get KD or get Battle Meditation

Maybe you're not a wildfire enjoyer, so you could drop it and get Battle Meditation while also getting KD

[storm estuary]

what is the dump stat for inferno staff?

[jovial juniper]

Damage

It affects direct hits

[marble crater]

[late sapphire]

pog

[marble crater]

I have been gone a while, since when is it called inferno staff?

[wintry niche]

Since last update?

[molten saddle]

Fuck i hate BR i suck with it🤣 time to gitgud with it 🤣

[hollow jolt]

Fatshark pulled a funny and renamed a ton of weapons

for whatever reason...

[marble crater]

I don't like it, and trauma is voidblast now?

[hollow jolt]

Columnus? oh you mean Vraks

all the Helbores got their marks changed too

[marble crater]

That's just wrong

[hollow jolt]

yeah if you say Helbore mk3, you mean the weak, fast firing one now lmao

[radiant frigate]

took a while

[hollow jolt]

bunch of other weird shit

[clear heath]

If you say columnus, old and new players will have different interpretations

[radiant frigate]

if you say kantrael 12 it no longer exists

[quartz barn]

Shouldve renamed ds4 to ds5

[radiant frigate]

arguably one of the worst offenses

[marble crater]

Wtf

[jovial juniper]

Evis2 is the Evis3 now

[hollow jolt]

I literally can't fathom why they did this

[radiant frigate]

munitorum power swords no longer exist

it is now scandar and idk

achlys?

[hollow jolt]

everyone calls them mk3 and mk6

I don't even know and I use Psword since release

[quartz barn]

Its even better when you use weapon custom

[marble crater]

Is there a list with all the changes I can look at when I craft weapons later?

[snow nymph]

Id luterally give up my ranged weapon to be able to use assail more often

Its like the only fun thing about psyker

[quartz barn]

Because eg all the autogun frames can be equiped on any auto-/ lasgun

So good luck doing that based on names

[wintry niche]

Can someone elaborate how 60% attributes to +11,11%?

[radiant frigate]

oh and let me guess, it is the old names there still

[marble crater]

It has insane scaling?

[radiant frigate]

on a scale of 0 to 100, you have something between -33 and +100
and the scaling appears to be nonlinear

[wintry niche]

Just wondering what it would be at 80%

[quartz barn]

Basically this

[marble crater]

Thank you, I don't like it, but thank you

[hollow jolt]

I think they did it to fuck with us lmao

[wintry niche]

Because I might dump warp res for quell speed

[quartz barn]

At 80% it would be +100 as listed

[marble crater]

Columnus is vraks now and vraks is columnus, great

[jovial juniper]

Peak FS trolling

[wintry niche]

Apparently 80% gives

So dumping this staff

[quartz barn]

Oh wait wtf

Really now fs

It gives +100 to the quell speed stat, which apparently is +42.86%

But why

[fluid thistle]

why make all these name changes?

[wintry niche]

Kinda insane difference between 60 and 80%

[hollow jolt]

literally no clue

[quartz barn]

Just use the same notation........

[hollow jolt]

its to fuck with us I guess

[fluid thistle]

[quartz barn]

No surprise you get all the rounding bs

[marble crater]

The 42,86 is 80%

[radiant frigate]

well, it lists ranges from 0 to 100

not 0 to 80

[clear heath]

wait what staff? I could've sworn 80% used to be 66%

[quartz barn]

Not what i said

[radiant frigate]

why are we capped at 80? who knows!

[marble crater]

Because red weapons, obviously, duh

[fluid thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/what-do-they-mean-random-numbers-gif-10654449

[quartz barn]

The 0-80 stat gives -33 up to +100 quell speed

[ornate hamlet]

Numbers

Me love big numbers

[radiant frigate]

no

[haughty star]

I might try flurry on the void strike instead of nexus

Then grab every crit node from the tree and put 5 percent crit on it

[wintry niche]

Okay if anyone wonders this is 80% warp res:

[haughty star]

Its hands down my favorite stave but the charge time is so bleh sometimes

[wintry niche]

and 60%:

[marble crater]

Did anything big change in terms of blessings for our staff since the crafting update? Or still same old stuff

[spice veldt]

this is the equation for the peril quelled per tick, which is why the scaling is so weird. It's nonlinear with respect to the amount of peril quelled. The "Quell Speed" stat you see in the stat card is some combination of the variables of the equation below.

[jovial juniper]

The best theory is to match the models with their worlds or something
That does not explain why some stuff got just a different number though

[haughty star]

Blaze away for inferno

[clear heath]

i guess they must've changed it. this is a really old screenshot

[haughty star]

Ok this is fucking terrifying

[spice veldt]

RAAAAAAAAAAGH

[marble crater]

Instead of Flurry I assume?

[jovial juniper]

Higui mentioned
What the hell are full sentences 🗣️

[clear heath]

wdym combination of the variables? It's just the one variable there, "quell_speed"

[strong gulch]

Warp resist. Direct damage is significant with blazeaway now. Inferno / purg is low peril gen for staves anyways.

Warp resist is the dump on all staves. VoidSTRIKE dump is blast radius, but you can also dump warp resist.

[spice veldt]

i mean this stat

[haughty star]

Yeah

[marble crater]

thanks

[spice veldt]

the "quell speed in the stat card is derived via this

[fluid thistle]

well, that just sorta goes right over my head
these are all just funny words to me so far

https://tenor.com/view/jfk-clone-high-i-like-your-funny-words-magic-man-jack-black-gif-18659433

[haughty star]

Its really powerful lol not that it wasn't before. Blaze away stacks also affect the burn from soul flame globally

[clear heath]

ah

[marble crater]

That sounds balanced, a small price to pay for sharing our dueling swords with vet and zealot

[haughty star]

Also not really blessing related but certain abhumans are using staves with scriers now and LMB surge is non ironically one of the most powerful fits with quell canceling

[storm estuary]

what perks/blessings should i be using for blaze sword and inferno staff?

[patent mango]

quickplay
3 ds zealots

[haughty star]

Slaughterer and uncanny and warp nexus and blaze away respectively

[marble crater]

What hell have I returned to

[late sapphire]

You should use the blessing that makes you go check out the guide in the pins

[haughty star]

Oh and empirical resolve makes surge stave neck and neck with inferno for most powerful/easiest and is good for trauma but sucks ass for inferno and isn't good for voidstrike because point tax away from empathment to DD

And warp splitting makes assail go through like 8 dudes without having the extra pen node

[strong gulch]

Oh yeah. Warp Unbound is fun. It's a talent mod for scriers. It lets you cast at 100% peril after SG ends. There is a bug tho. WU doesn't kick in right away; so emphasis on the AFTER part. There are mods to help keep track of WU.

Warp Splitting is another talent of note. It increase cleave with peril.

[marble crater]

What the hell are empirical resolve and warp splitting

[storm estuary]

thank you kind human

[haughty star]

The notable new talents

[strong gulch]

Gunker in general are eating this patch.

[haughty star]

Oh and warp unbound

For 10 seconds after scriers you cannot pop

With that node