psyker-class

[vestal galleon]

Especially with strength blessing. Makes those random spawn-from-behind rager packs a joke of bowling pins

[digital hill]

Hm, so I shouldnt be using penetrating flame eh

[jovial juniper]

You could be using it with Blaze Away iirc

[vestal galleon]

Whilst it definitely made Deimos shine even brighter, on Damnation mailers and Ragers get a pretty noticeable pump in stagger resistance, up to a point where running PF just makes you watch how they walk right into your face

[digital hill]

Yeah, Im trying to move away from leaning on it so much.

Why Im playing with the lightning staff, it's a pita and forces me to think about my positioning before using it. I'm way too comfortable with just taking on hordes face to face lol

[echo root]

Warp Nexus + Blaze Away masterrace

[digital hill]

Oh, you meant the jedi push!

Listen, I need it 😦

Kind of amusing that you can stagger everything on heresy with it, except mutants and bosses.

I dont think i should be knocking crushers flat.

[jovial juniper]

Well they fixed the direction you send them flying a couple patches ago

So it's intended

[vestal galleon]

Yup, Blaze away, talking about that one

[vestal galleon]

They get their shit together on Damnation, dw. But anything before that is pretty much a circus show with Purg 😁

[digital hill]

Purg = firestaff?

[vestal galleon]

Yup

It used to be called Purgatus until they tweaked the names

[radiant frigate]

unforgivable btw

[plucky flax]

Burga.

🍔

[broken carbon]

they made it woke.

[radiant frigate]

indeed?

elaborate

[vestal galleon]

I'd sanction them for a date with a Commissar, but Dukane doesn't answer my vox calls

[tough flower]

Anyone happen to know when the voiceline from female psyker that goes "Ammo is for tiny minds and tiny people!" play? i've seen it in a video about voice actors but i've never heard of it

[digital hill]

Probably when she takes ammo from a zealot

lol

Or takes ammo they need etc

[regal jasper]

Other guy was using eldrazi tribal

The 4th image was graveyard and exile

[echo root]

I was only looking at the cards very briefly

[regal jasper]

Fair

[fringe garden]

That voice actor video on the subreddit is amazing to watch.

[broken carbon]

wokehammer 40k: Woketide

[radiant frigate]

understandable

[thorn cedar]

all ogryns are rocksexual

[ripe obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/deep-rock-galactic-rock-and-stone-gif-22047860

[sinful peak]

any suggestions for a gunker build

[thorn cedar]

a gun

[jovial juniper]

Aim for the head

Vraks or Recon

[sinful peak]

no I mean a build

[thorn cedar]

here's mine with four extra points to spend

if youre new to Disrupt Destiny then just do the right side of that Keystone instead of left

[jovial juniper]

Wait, that's not Scrier's Precognition

Damn it

[thorn cedar]

i do like that one tho

[jovial juniper]

Anyways just change that TDR to Precog

Or keep it and get Precog

You have 3 points left

Could even get crack

[sinful peak]

seer over prescience?

[thorn cedar]

seer is deffo better for the rest of the team

10% for you on just Scriers though is like

mehhhh

[ripe bear]

can i see ur build

[jovial juniper]

It's a preference of mine
You can change it if you want

[digital hill]

203 health, 134 toughness. Sound about where they need to be?

[radiant frigate]

it ok (i guess)

[plucky flax]

251hp psyker

Tough as gold. (easy to melt)

[steel flame]

I really want to make laspistol 10 work as well as 2 but it needs some help

That increased damage over 2 is just not enough to make up for its lower mag size and fire rate

The actual gap in DPS between the two las pistols is pretty crazy

If the laspistol got run and gun though

[thorn cedar]

MKX is good if your headshot accuracy is 100%

you really only need the one shot for most targets

otherwise no point

[radiant frigate]

verily

[steel flame]

Laspistol mkx has one of the best hip fires in the game and run and gun would do wonders for it

[radiant frigate]

but surely infantry las does that better

the oneshotting i mean

[thorn cedar]

much slower weapon

and actually no

especially against flak targets

[steel flame]

Laspistol has stupid high finesse damage compared to anything that isn't the helbore

It's body shot crits can hit 1200 on flak enemies and it's headshot crits can nearly hit 2k

Honestly I have been loving the mkx with concentrated fire but now that dumdum has been patched it doesn't really get that damage boost from it on the stuff you actually want to snipe with it

[weary crane]

I take it back, blaze away in purga is op, because you can just do short charges and it keeps it at max stacks

[upper sun]

gold isnt tough

oh wait.........

😭

[steel flame]

Blaze away on purg is stupid. Btw you can stack and maintain it with the m1 too

It stacks based on direct damage ticks from the purge not how long you hold it or peril used

[weary crane]

But you still cant charge it right

[steel flame]

?

[steel flame]

I'm confused as to what you are asking

[plucky flax]

https://tenor.com/view/бальтазар-warhammer-gif-23779786

Taste gold magic

[upper sun]

what game is this

[weary crane]

Like you cant fully charge it and keep stacks

[plucky flax]

Total war warhammer. He's a legendary lord.

[steel flame]

Sure you can, any damage ticks from fire staff with keep blaze away going

[plucky flax]

One of a stronger wizard from warhammer fantasy.

[upper sun]

isnt that.. warhamer fantasy?

[plucky flax]

Yes.

I prefer fantasy over 40k.

[upper sun]

blocked

[plucky flax]

Make vt3 with dt combat system.

[steel flame]

I sentence you to eternity in AOS!

[plucky flax]

Warhammer 2 was peak. Warhammer 3 is slowly getting gud though.,

Hrm I can't get to aos. It becomes too 40k like.

[upper sun]

30k is better than 40k

horus heresy is better than current timeline imo

[plucky flax]

They will revive 80% of the primarches.

[steel flame]

As long as you are doing literally anything with the fire staff it will stack and maintain blaze away, m1, charge attacks, anything

[plucky flax]

And make 40k great again.

[upper sun]

when the grimdark is grimlight

IN THE GRIM DARK FUTURE.... humanity has its super knight and super accountant return after 10k years of fucking around

also the super blacksmith is somewhere just went out for cigs

[plucky flax]

Super Jesus Sanguinius will come back at some point.

[steel flame]

Too bad the other super blacksmith lost his head

[upper sun]

you think if he ever returns they'll fix the red rage in tabletop?

[upper sun]

im talking about vulkan are you talking about ironfists guy?

[steel flame]

Yeah I know xP

[upper sun]

ehhhhh idc about ironfists too much

[steel flame]

Rest in pieces metal arms

[upper sun]

i think canonically the majority of space marine chapters are either dark angel or ultra marine geneseed

so in theory having both robot and lion return should make a lot of space marines more mentally stable

[steel flame]

Well considering everyone else got turbo fucked in the heresy

[upper sun]

sangui still has feathers lying about

ironfists man still has a fist somewhere

[steel flame]

Dorn still needs a hand

[upper sun]

khan is a maybe but not enough people like him

[digital hill]

Practically all chapters are derived from ultramarines. The rest are sus.

[plucky flax]

I don't play tt

[upper sun]

i think vulkan is still the best option

[upper sun]

neither do i, i just think its intresting how they try to balance it after the lore

[steel flame]

I want a mentally unstable vulkan to make lots of bad decisions

Put him into conflict with his bros

[upper sun]

oh yeah im still reading vulkan lives

like he said hed return once his kids find all his shit

[digital hill]

Vulkan, Robulieolo, and the dark angel primarch. Including all the traitor primarchs that are functionally immortal daemons now

[upper sun]

also killing him and waiting for him to return should reset his brain

[weary crane]

I thought its direct damage stacks, soulblaze hits dont count

[upper sun]

horus is deleted from reality so hes not an option

[digital hill]

Pfft, like they'd surrender the ultimate villain.

[steel flame]

Yeah, you need to actually be hitting stuff with the staff

[digital hill]

He's probably spiritually entangled with the emperor, burning forever in the light.

[upper sun]

heh sorry.... the ultimate villians are erebus and abaddon

i fucking hate erebus so much

i know hes not real but i hate him like he is

[weary crane]

Yeah so fully charging the staff will lose the stacks. Granted you get them back in like 1 second but

keeping stacks

fully charging

[sturdy reef]

the charge meter will fill if you hold rmb during the recovery animation

so when you fire again, you will keep the stacks

[ripe bear]

could i see ur psyker laspistol build

[plucky flax]

Why isn't he nice guy?

[sturdy reef]

I dont play with mods, so sorry for the 3 parter lol

for heavy las, you can dump stopping power or mob

[steel flame]

He might still be nice guy but Konrad did a bang up job of breaking his psyche with all that torture. His body might regenerate but his mental health wont

[sturdy reef]

run + crit chance and infernus

you can do anything else for the other trait/blessing

I prefer dumdum

[steel flame]

Nah for las 2 you def want dumdum infernus

Dumdum is what's going to super charge your fire dot

[sturdy reef]

you are more ammo efficient than recon las/infantry auto but still wanna use assail to conserve ammo

you can also swap anticipation for kinetic deflection if you want and run a force sword with deflector

or get perilous combustion

really up to you

also the build editor on gameslantern is showing up as blank for me otherwise I woulda just recreated it there

[steel flame]

Why take the last node of scriers tho, that damage is really gonna bemifit your pew pew more than the rocks

[sturdy reef]

I mighta just been fucking around with it

[steel flame]

Better to put that into warp kill toughness so assail can Regen for you more consistently

[sturdy reef]

I already have soul stealer

[steel flame]

I looked at it wrong xP

U right

[sturdy reef]

you could dump warp unbound and anticipation to get one with the warp

or quietude, its not bad

[steel flame]

I did notice laspistol mkx actually has enough cleave to collateral pox walkers through the head but I'm not sure warp cleave will be enough to make that amount to much

[sturdy reef]

I dont know the laspistol cleave off the top of my head, its mostly there for when you switch to melee

[steel flame]

MK2 might as well not have cleave

[ripe bear]

using deimos for my melee

[sturdy reef]

just run deflector and kinetic deflection then as an insurance policy

[steel flame]

At least it also applies to assail which is a big boost

[sturdy reef]

yeah 100%

[ripe bear]

the laspistol feels bad for maulers and crushers yea?

use melee for that?

[sturdy reef]

the infernus stacks can burn em pretty bad

[steel flame]

It melts maulers to the body, but struggles with crushers

[sturdy reef]

but deimos H2 will demolish em

[dusk void]

Tried doing a gunker build, but ended up with a voidstrike build. Voidstrike is sorta like a gun lol

[sturdy reef]

voidstrike is our plasma gun

except noone uses it

lul

[dusk void]

Can't one shot crushers tho

[sturdy reef]

if only

[upper sun]

many such cases

[steel flame]

Maulers get dumpstered in 2 body shot crits or 3-4 body shots from MK2 laspistol

[dusk void]

I use it for fun

[sturdy reef]

its good imo

just annoying when the maulers are guarded by a swarm of poxwalkers

[dusk void]

I hate using guns imo. I have over 1000 hours with my psyker and have gotten used to no ammo

[sturdy reef]

give the charge fire more cleave

I too love being the ammo crate bot

[jovial juniper]

Real

[steel flame]

I still find it funny that of all the things laspistol is psykers best boss weapon besides columnus

[sturdy reef]

its unexpected

[dusk void]

Unlimited ammo

[jovial juniper]

"Ooh ammo crate, my team will like this one"

[sturdy reef]

but the alt push

the crit bonus

its so nice

I just hate how everyone holds it like you're a hoodlum

lmao

[steel flame]

The push going through walls is clutch for dogs

[sturdy reef]

the range is pretty dumb

[steel flame]

Wish it didn't have a delay tho

[sturdy reef]

yeah the startup isnt the best

but ig thats why it has so much range

[weary crane]

Is short charging purga less efficient?

[steel flame]

I think it's nearly 15m of range on the push

[weary crane]

In terms of peril gen

[thorn cedar]

9m

[sturdy reef]

it doesnt really matter

you can quell purg fast af

its base peril gen is low enough anyway

[steel flame]

Peril efficiency on fire staff is not a big issue you get similar dps. M1 attacks stack fire slighty slower but have better damage ticks if you quell cancel the animation with r but they have a boat load of stagger

[weary crane]

Yeah i only use it for ragers and trappers

[late sapphire]

it can

[digital hill]

Are ragers maniacs?

[dusk void]

Huh? maybe I haven't played the voidstrike staff long enough to know that

[dusk void]

The unarmoured ones, yes

[digital hill]

The dual axe dudes, yeah.

[late sapphire]

You need the surge giga double crits, and a variety of stacks

A peak damage voidstrike crit kills a crusher or a handful of maulers or any amount of lesser enemies in a conga line

[jovial juniper]

So there's two variants
Dreg Rager, the common one, is maniac
Scab Ragers are flak

[digital hill]

Ah, that's why I had those perks originally. Thanks

[fresh reef]

What even is the point of scab ragers?

[scarlet garden]

2 diff armor types innit

[fresh reef]

Do they have more health or is it literally just different armor and an infinitely less threatening attack?

[sturdy reef]

can we delete tox bombers

[modest perch]

So that ragers can spawn in civi

[fresh reef]

Solution to tox bombers:
If you hear "deny this" you drop EVERYTHING and go murder the tox bomber

[sturdy reef]

yeah

but they also like to stay at sniper range

😠

[jovial juniper]

They have 10 mass as opposed to Dregs 4
So they are supposed to just screw your cleave

[fresh reef]

Gotcha

[jovial juniper]

One stack of Headtaker on the Rashad can push attack 3 dreg ragers

[fresh reef]

What loadout are you using?

[jovial juniper]

But won't make past 1 scab rager

[sturdy reef]

Im trying to make melee psyker work okay

[jovial juniper]

So FS needs to bump Scab Rager spawn rate

[sturdy reef]

they are not a problem for staves

[jovial juniper]

To actually make sense of them

[sturdy reef]

oh got it

[fresh reef]

To reiterate, what loadout are you using?

[sturdy reef]

here is a scab rager train

deimos and double barelled

lol

[fresh reef]

I assume Assail and Scrier's?

[sturdy reef]

smite and sg

just doing weird shit

[ashen trellis]

is there a peril % mod that makes it red only after it reaches 90%

[fresh reef]

There's the problem then, you've got zero range

Swap smite for Assail

[sturdy reef]

yeah

[thorn cedar]

no

i respect it

[sturdy reef]

its fun

[thorn cedar]

you keep that smite

[fresh reef]

I never said I didn't respect it

[late sapphire]

Although they die way faster

[sturdy reef]

gives me the unga bunga feel like infiltrator vet almost

[fresh reef]

Just that they're struggling against long range enemies and I'm trying to think of solutions

[sturdy reef]

just the knockoff kind

[fresh reef]

@sturdy reef would you be willing to try the combat shotgun instead of the double barrel?

[sturdy reef]

yeah

[thorn cedar]

wall shield is my recommendation but that depends what Scriers is doing for you (and its probably a lot)

[fresh reef]

Try that with the same build, see if it works better

[sturdy reef]

I switch to the combat knife with SG and DD if I want to feel like a zealot

[fresh reef]

Also post build pls

[sturdy reef]

yeah it probably will feel better

me and my haggard 3 part build screenshots

alright

[fresh reef]

Extremely based wall shield enjoyer

[thorn cedar]

its the best shield

[sturdy reef]

stun shield is nice

[fresh reef]

Wall shield and purgatus in a doorway

Zero mouse movement, no key inputs

Pure bliss

[thorn cedar]

i do wish the shield nodes branched like this < : instead of like this - . - . tho

that made sense right

[fresh reef]

That made sense

And agreed

[sturdy reef]

gonna try it out

[jovial juniper]

Yeah that's part of the problems
They don't really spawn in big numbers to actually make that 10 cleave screw someone

Save for certain modifiers

[gusty sapphire]

so how is scriers best utilized

its the one thing i havent tried

[thorn cedar]

its got a lot of flexibility

the basic use is just popping it when you want some damage

[jovial juniper]

Yeah depends on the build
There's one that's just staying in gaze for long

Be it for the extra crit

To stack damage or finesse

[fresh reef]

Drop Assail's cleave node for Warp Unbound

[sturdy reef]

ah I see

[fresh reef]

You already get plenty of cleave with Warp Splitting, so it'd be better to have the 'ignore peril' utility

Also allows you to spam them at their strongest when you hit the end of Scrier's

[jovial juniper]

Best best best
With crits

[gusty sapphire]

what kinda weapons are best used with scriers anyway
revolvers and bolt pistols? vigilant autoguns?

[modest perch]

Surge staff

[gusty sapphire]

because id imagine that line you go down focuses on being a gun psyker

[sturdy reef]

staff

get warp unbound

[tawny bane]

Laspistol is really good with this event

[sturdy reef]

enjoy peril

[fresh reef]

Generally anything that has crit/finesse

[tawny bane]

It struggles against carapace but it’ll chew up everything else

[gusty sapphire]

ooo

which laspistol is better to use anyway, the heavier one?

[sturdy reef]

accatran

mk2

[tawny bane]

I like the faster shooting one, especially with scriers

The heavy one isn’t bad but it’s too slow to keep infernos burn stacks up

[thorn cedar]

mk2 is better since the spammy nature makes maintaining Emphatic Evasion really easy

infernus is pretty bad tbh

[fresh reef]

Mk2 has better boss dps, mk10 has higher burst for specials and such

[fresh reef]

You take that back, infernus is goated

[sturdy reef]

mk10 ammo though

3 rounds per shot

[fresh reef]

It's still a laspistol

Keeping it stocked with ammo isn't exactly difficult

[digital hill]

Wow, I am digging the voidstrike staff. Does surge work on the charge shot as well?

[raven mountain]

In addition to the stuff you'd expect like revolver, reconlas, autogun, or laspistol, I'm also a big fan of the zarona shotgun with bleed crits.

You can pretend that you are throwing shredder grenades and be like, no, I'm the veteran now.

I really wanted to like the fire one with bleed, but it just never felt as good in practice.

[upper galleon]

Yes

[digital hill]

Awesome.

[ripe bear]

this event, i went thru the 200k in a day rolling for a 60% warp res deimos

[ripe obsidian]

My last mission had 9 different people in it, including me. So many ragequits.

[verbal thistle]

Do you still need help with the "on overwatch" penance?

[ripe obsidian]

We didn't win. But I did more damage and had more kills than all 8 of them combined.

[digital hill]

I spent all my Melkcoins looking for curios, I feel it

[ripe bear]

im waiting for a train mission on malice, and hopping off rn i can dm when back on if u wanna help

cus i feel like thats the easiest one?

[verbal thistle]

I have the mod where I can play any mission, we can do that anytime

*not rn though, I'll be back on in like 30 min

[ripe bear]

oh shit

okay ill dm u when i hop back on, ty for offering

[nocturne dust]

🤔 There's a mod like that? Many More Try doesn't quite go that far

[verbal thistle]

Yes there is

[nocturne dust]

[verbal thistle]

sorry, its private though

[nocturne dust]

[verbal thistle]

I'll probably just use mmt though

[nocturne dust]

I only use MMT to hide my penance hunting

[sturdy reef]

there is a ragdoll mod

its so fucking peak

[lime marsh]

im new to darktide nd rn im using electricity with venting shriek to crowd control for my teammates to mop up at like level 18 am i “pskering right”? lol

[digital hill]

More sword, more fire.

[nocturne dust]

no

[lime marsh]

ill have to check that out lol im mostly just holding crowds and big enemies back for everyone else rn

[nocturne dust]

Get to level 30

use a staff

profit

[digital hill]

Sword and staff. I don't know why they don't give us a staffsword but

[gusty sapphire]

eeeeeh

it works but you’ll likely run into problems with players

constantly using electricity can trivialize the game and lead to players getting annoyed

[lime marsh]

thatd be cold i wanna try staff but keep getting crap staffs so im running a badmammajammin bolt pistol rn

[gusty sapphire]

to be a good psyker, take special care to not become overreliant on the electricity

you should be able to hold your own without it

[steel flame]

gunker is a decent way to level up. staves are really stat/talent dependant

[lime marsh]

i see alotta ppl use projectile shld i be tryna run that build instead? i dont like headburst at low levels cos the warp damage

[nocturne dust]

Lotta weirdos

Bubble is neat and all but it doesn't compare to Creeping Flames Shriek or Scrier's

[gusty sapphire]

electricity + venting shriek is pretty damn good but if you wanna use the shield, you can try it

[nocturne dust]

and wall is even worse than bubble

[gusty sapphire]

me personally id do assail (the crystals) and shield

bubble can be a lifesaver and runsaver at higher difficulties

[lime marsh]

i can usually dodge my way outta %85 my fights then i got the bolt pistol for the nurgle spawns n stuff then i been use elect for crowds or swarms

idk what wall or bubble is yet lmao

[nocturne dust]

or just use shriek and save both the run and your damage

[gusty sapphire]

the shield, theres two types of shields

[nocturne dust]

🤷‍♂️

Things can't shoot you if they're dead

[gusty sapphire]

im not a professional psyker or anything so take my opinion with a grain of salt but
thats pretty good but i wouldnt constantly shock swarms/hordes

[lime marsh]

the damage on electricity just suxxxx thats why i ask if im doing this wrong im using running ogryn but i wanna try ALL the classes in time. i usually avoid magic classes but i got respect for the game soo GOTTA try it 💀

[steel flame]

@lime marsh id check out pygex on youtube for good starting psyker stuff instead of psyker chat. the psyker chat will just confuse you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5wOiYzPHEY&list=PLOqPFl_Q4iarX8ICc5Cwfc_ojsqKtEt1b&pp=iAQB

[gusty sapphire]

i adopt the philosophy of “my electricity is for “oh shit” moments and to give us space”

[gusty sapphire]

wait until you get max level

if you run empowered psyonics you can pretty easily kill with electricity

[nocturne dust]

This is true, lore-accurate Psykers in chat

[gusty sapphire]

without it, yeah its more of a crowd control/support tool than a killer

[lime marsh]

yea most stuff i saw was way outdated from the class overhaul

[thorn cedar]

https://youtu.be/OT1xC1bzDJs?si=Ij5yYpRkByfmlX37

[nocturne dust]

Most advice is still good.

There are better things now, but the old stuff didn't get worse.

[lime marsh]

i still watch em to understand the class overall dnt get me wrong badass game 😂😂

[thorn cedar]

youre not gonna be doing real damage with smite until you can reach and fill out keystones

[gusty sapphire]

yep

[thorn cedar]

so just use it for crowd control

[nocturne dust]

Although Pygex has some strange takes

[thorn cedar]

in bursts

[lime marsh]

gotchuuu so its a tactic i shld come back to when i better understand the class

[gusty sapphire]

again, the biggest thing to keep in mind is to never become overreliant on the lightning

[lime marsh]

if anything i overuse shriek cos of the 100-200dmg 😂😂

[nocturne dust]

I mean, most of Psyker are things you should come back to when you're fully levelled. The exception is Assail.

[steel flame]

if you want explanations for how all the mechanics work for psyker this is the place to go, though i dont necessarily share his build mentality. but thats probably just cause im a wierd psyker https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959

[gusty sapphire]

overusing shriek is also good with brain rupture

since it buffs your casting speed

[lime marsh]

esp with a ability stim

[nocturne dust]

use creeping flames instead of warp rupture

[gusty sapphire]

honestly yeah i used assail until i was in the higher levels

[lime marsh]

ill look into it rn when i get on

[gusty sapphire]

also yeah use the fire shriek modifier

trust us, its better

[steel flame]

warp ruptures damage scaling is awful

[nocturne dust]

Also, only shriek at like 85% peril. I think it's 83.3% for the specific cutoff

that gets you the max out of shriek

[lime marsh]

yeah i try wait till last second since as of now i been crowd control based but i recognized i needa switch something!

sudden realization im alread in the discord 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[steel flame]

there is really no reason to ever use warp rupture, its a flat damage value and the max damage is only 200* with damage falloff

[nocturne dust]

Isn't it 200?

[steel flame]

yes

had the wrong number in me head

[lime marsh]

theres SO MUCH TO LEAARRN 😫😫😂😂

[steel flame]

yes....

welcome to psyker

time to get a college degree

[orchid ibex]

but we have a lot of viable ways of building the class thankfully

[lime marsh]

im new to warhammer as of 2 months ago and new to darktide as of like 3 weeks ago 😂 the pain is now understandable

[nocturne dust]

The reason warp rupture is bad is three-fold, it does less damage than creeping flames (to the point where it has trouble killing trash), doesn't take advantage of any soulblaze talents, and has damage falloff unlike creeping flames

[gusty sapphire]

what level is your psyker?

[lime marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-spongebob-squarepants-wow-mindblown-gif-13169052

[lime marsh]

18 or 19

[steel flame]

creeping flames can also super charge all of your soulblaze damage sinceit stacks to the global cap of 31

[gusty sapphire]

my personal opinion for a loadout to keep things simple?

[lime marsh]

👀

[nocturne dust]

There should be no global cap

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1004447866250613048/1295449409160478781/chiquichico-ezgif.com-instagif.gif

[lime marsh]

omg 😆

[gusty sapphire]

bolt pistol, blaze force sword (or combat sword), and then change your skills towards assail and then either venting shriek or bubble shield

simple, effective in both crowd control (no crowd to control if you ripped through them with crystals) and single target damage

[lime marsh]

i got combat chain sword and bolt rn i just gotta mod up my abilities

[gusty sapphire]

that works

[nocturne dust]

Hm, I'd use revolver but I absolutely despite 🅱️istol. It's 🅱️ad (my opinion).

[gusty sapphire]

revolver works too but he said before hes using a bistol

[lime marsh]

i was maining the revolver first then i got this gold bolt pistol wit higher stats so i had to retire my baby (went towards the gold cause)

[nocturne dust]

Fair.

[gusty sapphire]

oh yeah btw you’ll want to know about the intricacies of gun building as you level up

so stats for guns have a minimum of 60% and a maximum of 80%

[lime marsh]

ik a litttttttle bit but i havent dove into it too much

[gusty sapphire]

ill give you a quick rundown

[steel flame]

@nocturne dust If warp rupture also stacked something like brittleness based on peril it could have a lot more use cases

[nocturne dust]

A minimum at max score if every other stat is 80*

[gusty sapphire]

every weapon has a ‘dump stat’
this is a stat like mobility, defences, etc. that should be at the minimum of 60% so that every other stat is at the max of 80%

[lime marsh]

i love this game i must know it allllllll ✊😩✊

[gusty sapphire]

the logic is that the dump stat is comparatively inconsequential and its worth it to have every other stat maxed

[nocturne dust]

10% brittleness, take it or leave it.

[gusty sapphire]

this ofc only matters when you’re at level 30 and can take full advantage of a weapons potential

iirc the dumpstat for the bistol is…

chat is it mobility or stability

[lime marsh]

it wasnt so complicated playing ogryn 😭😭😂😂

[gusty sapphire]

i wanna say mobility

[steel flame]

FS would 100% pull shit like that

[nocturne dust]

mob, yes

[gusty sapphire]

im struggling with ogryn lmao

but yeah the bistol dump stat is mobility, thanks dead

so if you can find a bistol that has 60% mobility and 80% everything else?

congratulations, favorite and keep it

[lime marsh]

i loved ogryn i played a simple ass build and almost never lost but i like yo challenge myself

[gusty sapphire]

getting 30 for every class is worth it

[digital hill]

I cannot get ogryn down at all. Too big.

Too meaty.

[nocturne dust]

Just take shield, spam heavies

[gusty sapphire]

im always having a blast with any class

[nocturne dust]

[steel flame]

Essentially every guns dump stat is mobility

[gusty sapphire]

yeah i got it now but the only thing im having trouble with is just like

clicking with any of the guns

they just dont click with me

[nocturne dust]

you can also dump collateral on some guns

[gusty sapphire]

yeah i dumped collateral on my ogryns stubber

[steel flame]

I like to go fast, orgyn is everything except that

[lime marsh]

i just played as a dodging healing taunting meatshield with a turrent for my smaller teammates

[lime marsh]

yes.

[gusty sapphire]

bullgryn build? theres a good pal

[nocturne dust]

Fair, I think the shotgun is the easiest to get used to. Just use it as a very strange revolver

[gusty sapphire]

oh yeah the kickback is the most fun

fun firing into a crowd and watching the blood spray

[digital hill]

Although I have to admit that using the slap on the bully club is probably the best stagger mechanic I've ever seen.

Just batting them around back and forth

[gusty sapphire]

and its comedy gold

[prime elk]

Used to be able to slap bosses back and forth too

[lime marsh]

my fav part of low level

[gusty sapphire]

but yeah kickdoor, psyker is a blast at max level

[lime marsh]

i cant wait fr

it’s veteran next i think

[digital hill]

I learned that you can't quickly enough lmao

[gusty sapphire]

i have a brain rupture + warp battery build where as long as im attacking, they cant hurt me in any way that matters

and a smite + empowered psyonics build where im just palpatine whenever the team needs space

[lime marsh]

yes.

[gusty sapphire]

i.e. 6 crushers run through the door or 9 ragers appear

[lime marsh]

zaaaap ZaAAAp

[gusty sapphire]

yeah thats when they get fried

also gonna tell you now

the absolute best staff (to me) is the voidblast staff

[digital hill]

Man I am loving the voidblast

[lime marsh]

okay bet cos i know little to nothing bout staffs

[gusty sapphire]

you charge and fire balls of death that rip through enemies and only explode on contact with surfaces or big enemies

[gusty sapphire]

quick rundown time!

[lime marsh]

i havnt gotten a single rewarded staff so i havnt even held one

[nocturne dust]

In terms of power, EK is generally the strongest on auric dam but falls behind at lower levels where it can't just feed Perilous Combustion off elites/specials

[gusty sapphire]

voidblast: place an AoE explosion infront of you at a distance
electrokinetic: charge and fire arcing lightning (doesnt arc as much as smite) that actually deals damage
inferno: its a psychic flamethrower
voidstrike: charge and fire balls that rip through enemies and explode on contact with surfaces or big enough enemies

am i missing one?

[nocturne dust]

I think my favorite staff to use is Voidstrike tho

[digital hill]

I really wish we could send players items lol at least low level stuff or something. I've got a bunch of grey staves sitting at 80s and 60s since I was going for variation. Such a waste.

Oh, Voidstrike. That's what Im playing with.

[nocturne dust]

you have voidstrike and voidblast reversed

[gusty sapphire]

is it? fuck

[nocturne dust]

lol

[gusty sapphire]

i thought voidblast was the deathballs and voidstrike was the explosions

[nocturne dust]

Thanks Fatshark for the names

[lime marsh]

roight i noticed off bat theyre a lil misnamed

[nocturne dust]

Strike stikes with bowling balls, blast blasts the floor

[gusty sapphire]

im a veteran main and a loose cannon user at that, im gonna get shit wrong

[nocturne dust]

[gusty sapphire]

its in character

[late sapphire]

Doesn't even kill groaners in damnation...

[digital hill]

Apparently they had other names before, but these elders can't bother to stop confusing newbs

like me

[nocturne dust]

Trauma my beloved

[gusty sapphire]

but yeah kickdoor, the staves all also share a few similarities (except the inferno)

[nocturne dust]

You could say the name change was....

[weary wave]

What's the best way to learn Stair and upper level shots with Trauma? I seem to suck at those :/

[nocturne dust]

😎

[gusty sapphire]

the primary fire sends out bolts that deal comparatively minor damage

[nocturne dust]

traumatic

[gusty sapphire]

and they dont take ammo
instead they generate peril

[lime marsh]

im very noob so most of its gibberish to me dw im just trying to focus on names to numbers as hard as i can 😂😂

[gusty sapphire]

you can quell the peril with them by holding R or whatever your reload key is

[digital hill]

[gusty sapphire]

and their special action is just beating an enemy with the staff

[nocturne dust]

To learn? 🤷‍♂️ Practice

[late sapphire]

Experience

[digital hill]

Which one was trauma oh my god

[weary wave]

yeah, wanted to do it in the Psykhanium but it's all flat

[late sapphire]

trauma = voidblast = floor explosion
voidstrike = voidstrike = bowling balls
surge = electrokinetic = lightning
purgatus = inferno = fire

[digital hill]

Perfect.

Ty.

[lime marsh]

yeah thats the only reason im able to almost infinity crowd control while half team is down on heresy

[gusty sapphire]

love me voidstrike

[weary wave]

Surge and Purge!

[digital hill]

Gotta admit, having smite would be useful in those moments lol

But since apparently the electro heavy strike is bunk, smite is useless.

[lime marsh]

on soul

[lime marsh]

yes

[digital hill]

There is only sword.

[weary wave]

I tried a total defense build with Shield and Smite, granted I suck, but that didn't work out well, for those who wish to try

[gusty sapphire]

smite is also incredibly useful when a teammate goes down

[lime marsh]

with chainsaw.

[dusk void]

I have tried all the staves, favorites are Trauma and Surge

[late sapphire]

voidstrike is really good

[gusty sapphire]

provided your teammates arent one step away from servitorhood from being lobotomites

[digital hill]

If I could have a warpchain sword, oh my god.

[nocturne dust]

Nobody mention EP smite

[lime marsh]

half the time they play like it

[dusk void]

Very useful

[late sapphire]

smite suffers for reviving in the same way the zealot chorus ability does

[gusty sapphire]

you have no idea my pain

[gusty sapphire]

YEP.

[late sapphire]

you stun everything around you and the 2 alive teammates run off immediately

[nocturne dust]

[lime marsh]

i think the term now is “pre-servitor”

[gusty sapphire]

im standing on their body shouting “PRAISE HIS NAME, AVAST YE BLAGGARDS” at them and parting the poxer sea like moses

[digital hill]

free range pre-servitors.

[late sapphire]

So what you do instead is you grab your staff and you unleash hel and explode all of the heretics

[gusty sapphire]

and the teammates are just
looting, or killing individual poxers, or running off

[late sapphire]

And then you can revive

[lime marsh]

i start speaking mid gothic in chat during those events

[digital hill]

Staggering the jerk shield ogryn with voidstrike is so incredibly satisfying. Usually have to dodge to the side to hit them with the warp push.

[gusty sapphire]

ive realized that my teammates are lobotomized pre-servitors and if i wanna play revives i just hop on my VoC veteran

where i dont even have the revive modifier, i just use it to overshield myself and give me space to pick them up

[lime marsh]

so far my healers my ogryn

[gusty sapphire]

ogryn is also indisputably the best healer

[lime marsh]

he dont stagger to lil tiny punches while healing

[digital hill]

I came across a dude the other night who was RPing his ogryn in voice lol Ogryn voice and everything.

[gusty sapphire]

“sah! can i help you up, sah?”

[late sapphire]

The stealth abilities are best for ressing

[lime marsh]

i. LOVE. that

[digital hill]

Same.

[gusty sapphire]

i also appreciate how everybody is appreciative of the ogryn

[late sapphire]

It's a shame stealth zealots are never nearby and always dying on their own

[digital hill]

I FRIENDED HIM AND HE NEVER RESPONDED. I am ruin.

[gusty sapphire]

will never tire of hearing the cadian vet yelling “thanks, big man!”

[lime marsh]

i ran into the same thing as a zealot like 2 weeks ago. high gotchic n all i loved it

[gusty sapphire]

i kinda wanna try stealth zealot

but my zealot is typically a chorus+martyrdom or chastise+BP

[proper osprey]

Marty is nasty

[digital hill]

Voidstrike perk; flak, carapace or maniacs?

[proper osprey]

Yuck!

[gusty sapphire]

prob maniacs imo

[lime marsh]

never even tried zealot but i want to. just i have no friends on darktide rn i gotta start joining discord teams more often

[gusty sapphire]

or flak

i tend to do maniacs

[late sapphire]

are you running surge?

[gusty sapphire]

zealot took me a bit to get used to but its great fun

to play zealot i had to just keep one thing in mind

[late sapphire]

I usually go crit flak nexus surge

[digital hill]

I am!

[gusty sapphire]

and that thing was

[late sapphire]

maniac is effectively only dreg ragers and some specials

[digital hill]

Actually what I have, except I had maniacs. Flak sounds better.

[gusty sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/ui-son-goku-gif-18812155

that is how you play a good zealot

[late sapphire]

specials are super squishy so the bonus is kinda eh

[lime marsh]

thats how i feel as a combat psyker lol

[digital hill]

Sword takes care of ragers because they apparently reproduce like mitosis and there's never enough time to staff them

[late sapphire]

Depending on your sword you can dodge backwards of force push to make space

[proper osprey]

Crit book is better for the ability spam @gusty sapphire

[late sapphire]

assail also staggers ragers ok

[gusty sapphire]

zealots are the best ultra instinct users because they have an unlockable passive where they regain…

[late sapphire]

if you go into scab melee mael you might want to switch to something like flak cara or cara crit

[gusty sapphire]

iirc it’s either 15% or 20% toughness on a successful dodge

[digital hill]

Yeah! I do, but then you have a sword in your hand and there's a mutant face right there

[gusty sapphire]

it is? i should prob try that

[digital hill]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-beric-game-of-thrones-go-t-hbo-gif-11408956

[late sapphire]

That's true yeah

Ragers have very stabbable faces

[proper osprey]

Tbh I don’t really see the appeal of stealth I find clutching with fury more impressive than stealth

[gusty sapphire]

i just rip them in half with voidstrike balls

[gusty sapphire]

i can see it for high singletarget damage

sneaking around a gunner or flamer, or bulwark or crusher

[proper osprey]

Yeah just build crit zealot but take book instead of fury

[digital hill]

Stealth turned out to be surprisingly fun on vet. Seems fun on zealot, but I still dont get zealot.

[gusty sapphire]

and ofc, revives

[late sapphire]

stealth isn't that much better than fury for single target

[gusty sapphire]

got’cha, will build that when i get home

[late sapphire]

it's good for the funny thammer oneshots

But that's about all

[proper osprey]

Fury does that and gives you attack speed

[gusty sapphire]

i swear theres little more funny than that

[late sapphire]

Outside of that you use it to reposition and dump aggro which is fairly evil if you have teammates

[orchid ibex]

stealth zealot is also just weird to me because you're a class that has the hardest time dying out of any class, you probably shouldn't aggro dump your team

[proper osprey]

Honestly stealth is only good for res

[late sapphire]

The funnest games are ones with 3 stealth zealots and yourself

[digital hill]

"Hello?"

[late sapphire]

Any sort of difficulty occurrs, and you hear 'i walk in the shadows' thrice, and suddenly all heads turn to face you

[proper osprey]

Plus breaking away puts all the aggro on the team

[digital hill]

The Emperor protects.

[proper osprey]

I used to think assail was useless after the nerfs

But

Melee psyker is really good with it

[digital hill]

Blaspheme

What point of sword if sword does not burst heads.

[orchid ibex]

assail is pretty good now, pre-nerf it was just broken

[thorn cedar]

it's kinda back to broken with warp splitter tbh

[proper osprey]

I don’t even run keystones on my melee psyker

[digital hill]

o.o

[proper osprey]

Out did a zealot

[digital hill]

https://tenor.com/view/showme-show-me-morpheus-gif-5144220

[orchid ibex]

[proper osprey]

Ill see if I can rq

[prime elk]

Good skill check against the rest of the team

[nocturne dust]

Me outdoing everyone else on the team with no talents (they're bots)

[orchid ibex]

a second 17% toughness curios

i've been stuck at one 16 for ages

that 1% is going to mean everything

[dusk void]

I have like 8 or 10 of those just sitting

[orchid ibex]

you don't. you're just trying to upset me.

it's not gonna work

[dusk void]

I can prove it to you

[orchid ibex]

it's fine, i'd rather believe you're lying.

[upper sun]

i have at least 10

[orchid ibex]

funny jokes guys, real funny.

[upper sun]

ill give you some credit tho

i struggled a lot on ogryn

every other class i have a lot of 17% toughness

[orchid ibex]

yeah, i actually play psyker the most and it was my last class to get the curios i want just because of rng

[upper sun]

ogryn i have exactly 2

[upper sun]

yup it do be like that

[orchid ibex]

i also didn't really do the melk slot machine on my psyker until just now when i blew through a bunch to get this one

[upper sun]

yeah tbh just check brunt every chance you get

thats the cheapest way

[orchid ibex]

yeah, i'm bad at doing that

i could have gotten one sooner if i put in more effort actually checking for them lol

[sour nest]

Just run 3x 20% curio chance

[orchid ibex]

what are people running on psyker curios these days for perks? i just do 3x toughness speed, 2 gunner, 1 sniper, then 5%hp/tough/tough

[normal matrix]

i run 1 wound and toughness perks

[verbal thistle]

F to the pics

[dusk void]

Why run toughness regeneration? You have plenty of toughness regeneration on your talent tree alone. Rather switch it out for combat regeneration. I don’t take gunner/sniper resistance. Trade out for stamina regeneration/sprint efficiency and combine it with block efficiency and toughness perks

[digital hill]

I got one decent curio out of milk doing slots, and then the weapon's dude gave me another with the exact same stat lol

Betrayals.

[weary wave]

I do 2 tougness 1 stamina, 3x stamina regen + 2x gunner + sprint eff, then 3x ult regen

[digital hill]

Very close to what Im doing too

I'm rocking gunners on 2x, though. Because they have guns

[weary wave]

although I only got 2 new with gunner res, otherwise I went with 1x block and 2x sprint lol

[digital hill]

Obv.

[weary wave]

I'm a slug

[orchid ibex]

block efficiency is redundant with kinetic deflection though

[digital hill]

Kinetic deflection can go bad real quick if you're running scryer's gaze ;_;

[orchid ibex]

how noticeable is the combat regen?

[weary wave]

can you go boom from Kinetic?

[ripe bear]

Deimos blessings and why?

[digital hill]

It increases peril, so yeah. I had a gunner unload on me when he side stepped out around a corner.

[orchid ibex]

i do uncanny strike always, and then either slaughterer for more horde or deflection to block bullets

[ripe bear]

why is uncanny good

[orchid ibex]

rending on headshots for armored dudes

[weary wave]

I recently tried in psykanium, with purge or soulblaze in general it amps it crazy

[ripe bear]

and perks i got flak and Weak spot dam

[late sapphire]

no

[weary wave]

I go knife with Executor + Uncanny

[late sapphire]

kd stops working at high perils

[orchid ibex]

uncanny is also a great pick for knife

[split lance]

@lethal lagoon

[weary wave]

ah, ok

[split lance]

F

[weary wave]

Plot twist?

cuz sometimes I just go insta kaboom, can't even F

[lethal lagoon]

This is confusing, everyone knows you don't have main character luck

Prepare for the worst in the next few days, buy some toliet paper.

The next pandemic is coming

[sour nest]

I wish

[late sapphire]

in short, uncanny is pretty good bonus damage to flak, maniac, carapace and unyielding enemies depending on armor piercing profile of the attacks

on deimos it means your slashing lights do ~50% more flak and maniac damage

and your stabbing light-heavy combo deals double the carapace damage

at full stacks

so when you get it going it helps crowd clear bruisers a good bit and helps kill maulers and crushers a lot

[haughty star]

Kd switches to your stam bar when peril is full.

If you're running kd it helps to run a +3 cuz it exponentially increases your peril resistance when blocking

[late sapphire]

exponentially (actually linear)

block efficiency, stamina regen and sprint efficiency suck on psyker

block efficiency because of kd, stamina regen and sprint efficiency because we already have extremely fast regen and can infinitely chain sprint slides

[prime elk]

Block efficiency sucks everywhere

[late sapphire]

block efficiency is great... in vermintide 2...

[ripe bear]

and so would +10% weak spot dam help even more?

[late sapphire]

no

+% weak spot dam and +% crit dam only impact the weakspot and crit damage bonuses

[ripe bear]

so flakiac?

[late sapphire]

so it's really more like 5% damage

on deimos flak maniac or flak carapace i think

[nocturne dust]

remember that soulblaze inherits your perks of the active weapon

[steel flame]

very sad dots dont stack dumdum anymore XP

[orchid ibex]

the hell? really?

[nocturne dust]

so if you do uncanny soulblaze, carapace isn't really helpful outside of memeing on crushers

[nocturne dust]

yes

[radiant frigate]

yes, yes, terribly sad

[nocturne dust]

Kinda dumb really

[ripe bear]

idek if im using soulblaze

[orchid ibex]

i never knew that, i might swap my melee just for that reason

[nocturne dust]

Uncanny and inheriting active weapon perks are ew but it is what it is

[late sapphire]

I was going to say how would you even track that then i remembered it would be really easy to do

[ripe bear]

doing a laspistol gunker

[late sapphire]

I dunno what fatshark is up to

[sturdy reef]

I love warp unbound being inconsistent

😠

[upper sun]

its not all that good it fades too quickly best case you get -3 ticks of empowered soulblaze

unironically if havoc mode is as hard as people say maybe itll have a place

[nocturne dust]

No? Uncanny soulblaze is the quickest way to kill bosses with staffker

[upper sun]

i mean with armor

[late sapphire]

Quickest way to kill bosses is to poke them dead with a ds wdym

[upper sun]

like you have 4 crushers coming at you

[nocturne dust]

Well, carapace is nearly immune still, yeah

[upper sun]

instead of applying soulblaze then going melee

you can just go melee directly or BB

[nocturne dust]

#psyker-class message

Clad stop repeating me

[upper sun]

no

[nocturne dust]

[orchid ibex]

anyone who runs knife a lot, what perks do you like?

[steel flame]

the actual quickest way to kill bosses is to shoot them with a dumdum inferno laspistol, but please continue to squabble over emulating a fraction of my power

[split lance]

I just shit myself

[nocturne dust]

Flak and.... uh maniac or carapace? I can't recall

[upper sun]

noooooooooo ur too based to shit yourself

[steel flame]

run unarmored,

[nocturne dust]

unarmored isn't great on Psyker

[steel flame]

the only thing it struggles to hit breakpoints on with uncanny is unarmored mobs and unarmored gunners

the knife that is

[nocturne dust]

You use knife for mobility, not horde clear

[late sapphire]

knife crowd clear

womp womp

when i do run knife i run uncanny flesh tearer unyielding carapace...

[steel flame]

its really just there so you can kill unarmored gunners as fast as flack gunners

[nocturne dust]

Yeah something like this, I'll have to go check my perks

[late sapphire]

if you are for some reason honor bound to using the knife as a primary like a zealot would, go with the unarmored whatever sure

[orchid ibex]

makes sense, i've been just sticking flak/carapace and uncanny/riposte on it

[upper sun]

tbh i switched to flak unarmored on illisi after the rager buffss

no way im meleeing that shit

[steel flame]

ragers are maniac......

[upper sun]

yeah

[steel flame]

womp womp

[late sapphire]

ft is good with psyker crit buffs

[upper sun]

i switched because i no longer want to melee them

so the perk is wasted

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/weakness-disgusts-me-madara-uchiha-madara-naruto-weakness-disgust-me-gif-17219305

Mfer ignoring specialists

[upper sun]

force push
dodge backwards
switch to ranged

deal with it

[nocturne dust]

Mutant about to grab him and toss him off the map

[steel flame]

that reminds me i need to make a new knife for psyker

[late sapphire]

i like ragers i can poke them in the face with my shishkebab stick

it's fun to play with them a bit

[orchid ibex]

i'm in the unfortunate place of hating the aesthetics of using a dueling sword but also envying how op it can be

[nocturne dust]

I dislike that there's not really a way to safely deal with ragers in melee

[steel flame]

if you dont wanna be op then run the mk5 DS

[orchid ibex]

push-stab on combat knife 6 is ok but not safe

you kind of roll the dice on whether the block part of the block stab works

[nocturne dust]

Their combos just go so fast that even nearing them for a special stab from dueling sword is

[austere warren]

I just space them out with duelling swords or deimos and that's it.

Seems like deimos has more reach on h2.

[orchid ibex]

give me a good mobility axe, fatshark

[nocturne dust]

Probably, but requiring specific weapons to melee ragers is imo bad design

Ranged already has the speed and safety advantage

[austere warren]

I could care less. It's whatever when you just have the damage

[digital hill]

I force push and give myself some distance to keep them down and stabby. Not always effective when they come in packs of 10

[austere warren]

Aim at heads, stab head, done.

[late sapphire]

i like the aesthetics

[digital hill]

Obscurus make the head disappear.

[austere warren]

Berserker will berserk. Oh well. They're definitely a threat so when I got used to addressing them fuck all ago it became less of an issue in every way.

[nocturne dust]

Yeah but compare it to the ease and safety of any ranged weapon

[orchid ibex]

that's fair. i just can't get my head around a little toothpick sword being good vs. heavy armor

[late sapphire]

Yeah it is kind of silly

[austere warren]

A berserker ought to be dangerous in melee if you ask me.

[digital hill]

Safety? My peril is 70+ at all times. Weakness is disappointing.

[austere warren]

It'd be easier if darktide has parry like vt2 I suppose.

[late sapphire]

I'd like if the heavy armored enemies had unarmored bits

And the ds just had high targeting priority for those bits

[nocturne dust]

Dangerous, sure, but not 'just avoid melee or roll the dice' dangerous

[late sapphire]

So instead of poking the head you can stick it into a crushers armpit or something

[nocturne dust]

Devil's Claw gaming

[austere warren]

I just don't feel the same strain against them for what it's worth.

If i drop ranged in melee I do so. If I fight them directly and dodge to avoid some of their goofy tekken tracking strings, I do so.

[late sapphire]

i think vt2 plague monks were much more dangerous than dt ragers

[austere warren]

I'm more worried about berserkers when there's lines of shooters.

Then, I need to actually consider how fucked I might be if shooters aren't dead by the time whatever amount of berserkers shows up to fuck.

[zinc phoenix]

genuinely i think most pugs would play better after a lobotomy

[nocturne dust]

Maybe part of my issue is just how they can be silent unlike plague monks or crushers

You'll just be walking and bam bam bam instadown

[orchid ibex]

silent crushers too

[zinc phoenix]

vermintide needs to add cheese grenades

[nocturne dust]

Yes but that's a bug 😭

[zinc phoenix]

idk why youd bother with explosives when you could literally just bring fromage

rats everywhere disabled instantly

[thorn cedar]

and the rats worship cheese ... or something

[sturdy reef]

need more warpstone

https://tenor.com/xlUg.gif

[steel flame]

hmmm i cant remember, does first target stat on knife apply to single enemy attacks like the heavy overhead

or just when you hit multiple enemies

[haughty star]

Zealot chat would be the best place for informed info about knoife

Or just ping @latent mauve

[lethal lagoon]

[haughty star]

Not flak ragers

[gaunt seal]

250k boss damage with recon lasgun and automatic brain rupture
Didn’t think I’d ever put thunder hammer numbers up but the monster hunter theory craft has payed off

[gaunt seal]

First target applies even if only one enemy is hit

[fiery stratus]

All you need to know is knife dumpstat is mobility

that what you should shoot for

[fresh reef]

is blocking bad or something?

[fiery stratus]

in this game kinda

[fresh reef]

I always get highest block count lol

regardless of class

[fiery stratus]

you can't really block an overhead in this game like you can in vermintide

a lot of people rely on just dodging, which you kinda can because of the iframes in this game

[quartz barn]

because overheads cant be blocked lol

[fiery stratus]

Even blocking normal attacks its not good

does a big chunk of stamina

trash dudes sure

[fresh reef]

I suppose I have my Deimos to thank for making blocks viable

[fiery stratus]

Yeah if you have deflecting thingy that makes a big difference

[fresh reef]

deflector + curio block efficiency is so good I've actually stopped running Kinetic Deflection

[fiery stratus]

I guess, but overall you shouldn't need to block a whole lot. This game is kinda of geared away from it vs vt2 they really want you to

Gunners sure

[broken carbon]

yea

blocking should rarely be done

psyker its a bit more okay because of KD

but you really should just be dodging or pushing 95% of the time

[sturdy reef]

force sword shove my beloved

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/the-road-to-el-dorado-both-both-is-good-gif-8304204

[digital hill]

Bummer, and we're back to disconnects per match.

queues reinstall

[nocturne dust]

not sure reinstalling will fix that

[digital hill]

It does for a bit.

Like a week

[nocturne dust]

when I start disconnecting, tends to go away after just waiting 🤷‍♂️

Could easily be different problems with how Darktide is tho

[digital hill]

It runs fine for days, then Ill start getting audio skips. Usually they reocver, but then it gets bad enough that it discos once per match. Then hard crashing. So I usually delete the appdata and reverify which gives it a couple of more days.

Then reinstall lol

[nocturne dust]

Hm, I heard clearing something related to shaders somehow helps sometimes with those more egregious issues but I've never tried it myself since I don't experience them

[digital hill]

Lucky!

Shaders, hm

[late sapphire]

shader cache...

[digital hill]

Looks like that's data in the appdata folder, so deleting it should purge it.

[haughty star]

Yall tried star trucker yet?

Its kinda like darktide if by kinda like darktide you mean nothing like darktide

[pine shore]

My status is that I played a couple of games, didn't notice any difference and then got very eepy

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/533050129700356106/1290934064819343423/attachment.gif

[proper osprey]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d775b5d-8de4-4f3e-b05c-7f40fb8f83d7/melee-pysker?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[nocturne dust]

[proper osprey]

I also run 100 cleave on peril idk where that point is I’ll check it when I’m home

[proper osprey]

He hates it

[nocturne dust]

No warp splitting?

Warp expenditure is also eh

[haughty star]

Lol tf

Drop expenditure and soulstealer and the +1 assail and you have dd

[nocturne dust]

and no DD

[nocturne dust]

anticipation

[proper osprey]

I did say no keystones

[nocturne dust]

or EE depending on preference

[nocturne dust]

😭

[haughty star]

Jesus it gets worse

[proper osprey]

Honestly even with assail I can’t keep dd up

Maybe I’m just abysmal dogshit

[radiant frigate]

what the fuck-fuck

[nocturne dust]

I mean I have trouble with DD and people give me crap for it

but I still take DD on appropriate builds

[patent mango]

lmao

[proper osprey]

Post build because someone asked

Get shit on

[nocturne dust]

I'm allowed to point and laugh

[proper osprey]

I honestly can’t tell a difference with and without dd

[radiant frigate]

bigger number for more murder

also become zippy after killing blue man

[proper osprey]

Please keep in mind i outdid a vet and zealot in melee

With this

[digital hill]

They don't understand the way of the sword, that's all.

[radiant frigate]

not saying much

i also commonly see both of those classes forgetting to melee

[haughty star]

Just do it like this

[digital hill]

Thanks for posting, looks fun.

[patent mango]

idk i dont like dclaw psyker too much

[haughty star]

Meleeker is assailker is gunker is meleeker

[proper osprey]

Ken deflect makes it so good

[radiant frigate]

yeah but imagine you need to kill something, but you have to wait for it to attack you in order to kill it

[silent wigeon]

I bet the horde clear is very good

[radiant frigate]

instead of just killing it

[haughty star]

D claw is literally only good for the gimmick. Illisi or Rashad shits on it in horde clear and ds4 is just a monster

[proper osprey]

I just parry ragers and crushers to death

[haughty star]

Who has time for that

[radiant frigate]

dclaw is good for pulling daemonhosts and facetanking bosses

and rager swarms if you have enough block capability

[haughty star]

I mean all melees ar3 good at wasting a bosses time provided we have kd

Considering claw parry does fuck all against unyielding

[radiant frigate]

well yes i mean more like also killing it while you're at it

[strong gulch]

Beidou core.

[radiant frigate]

i will pretend i know what that means

[strong gulch]

Fair lol. She's a character with a skill that is basically just her waiting to get hit so she can counter it.

[radiant frigate]

yes that sounds about right

[haughty star]

Fucking death stranding combat in darktide

[radiant frigate]

does she do anything when stuff is not aiming for her

[strong gulch]

She smacks things with a heavy sword.

[radiant frigate]

is it effective smackage

[nocturne dust]

Dclaw is unmatched for defensive play and is useful on staffker

As a Dclaw lover, Dclaw for meleeker is

[radiant frigate]

dclaw is unmatched in how garbage it is for use as a weapon

i would literally rather use knife and i am a knife hater

[strong gulch]

Not compared to the counter.

[nocturne dust]

I'd be hurt but I've parried your insult

[radiant frigate]

parry this

[haughty star]

Id rather take my chances charge striking a entire rager horde than parry every single one of them

[nocturne dust]

Force Claw when Fatshark

[digital hill]

🤺

See?

Easy.

[radiant frigate]

also it was not an insult unless you are a dclaw

[nocturne dust]

It's literally just spam parry button until they're dead

[radiant frigate]

excellent form

approved

[nocturne dust]

wdym 'chances'

100% solution

[digital hill]

Thank you, it's all about the butt to hip ratio.

[radiant frigate]

read again

[nocturne dust]

I was talking to baz

[haughty star]

It literally is slow and boring

[radiant frigate]

yes and i am saying read again

[digital hill]

I love niche builds like this, though. Even if it is just being great at a single aspect. Swords have many edges to them. Each are acceptable.

[nocturne dust]

[radiant frigate]

why so many edges when we only use one

food for thought

[digital hill]

https://tenor.com/view/star-war-multiple-lase-swords-gif-16896513

Every edge is unique and treasured and must be tested thoroughly on faces.

Esp ragers

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/cats-toby-the-cat-nod-yes-yes-yes-hooman-gif-17105827

[nocturne dust]

The only thing faster against groups of ragers that's melee is like... the heavy sword?

I guess there's an argument for DS and knife if they're standing still

and even then, not sure if the heavy sword will perform well enough on Psyker

I hate it too much to test it