psyker-class

[split lance]

1 sec

[nocturne dust]

I can't believe you would lie on the internet

[split lance]

this pic is actually old af

like

2020

2021

[split lance]

you aske d

mh

smh

[nocturne dust]

I didn't.

There was never a question.

[split lance]

you begged

[nocturne dust]

That's not an ask.

That's not a beg.

[split lance]

its a beg

[nocturne dust]

[split lance]

its a plead

[nocturne dust]

You don't know what begging or pleading is, smh my head.

[left basin]

ya'll both omericans right

[nocturne dust]

Here is begging

[split lance]

This is begging

[nocturne dust]

si senor

[left basin]

i need more full-black whale clothes

[radiant frigate]

does thammer kill hordes now or does it hilariously overkill the first target and launch the rest

[strange remnant]

The answer is yes

But seriously it's just good at everything

[radiant frigate]

right but you cannot exactly compare a melee weapon with a ranged weapon

[strange remnant]

Yeah yeah

Was mostly asking to see if I missed anything

Went for Disrupt Destiny now and it's a lot stronger but feels awkward to play

[woeful bone]

I at least got the ogryn bullrush penance before they turned some of them private, but tbh why are there even private only penances lmao

[radiant frigate]

toxic

"hey here's a penance that requires you to be actively detrimental to your team"

[woeful bone]

i get the complaint that they encourage anti-team play, but why not just... make them penances that encourage team play using those particular skills instead, or make mission conditions that enable those things to be done more easily

they seem to have done fairly ok with literally every other penance, and tbh it just seems like a way to punish solo players

[radiant frigate]

things that suck would indeed be better if they didn't suck

i agree

[woeful bone]

lmao

[quartz barn]

The psyker and zealot ones make more sense

But ye the zealot speedrun penance literally has you die and abandon the team xd

[radiant frigate]

die? no

just low health

and abandoning the team doesn't work if you still have to wait for them

it's toxic because it doesn't work if the team isn't on the same page

and because you may see 21 minutes and get frustrated

[quartz barn]

Less than 1 wound

[wind spruce]

I hate this idea. If a penance gets completed by just playing the game optimally/normally, it's not worth doing or caring about.

[quartz barn]

I thought you had to run 2 wounds, die, revive, clear mission

[ashen elbow]

I ran like two wounds and just let trash mobs slap my ass until I was at one wound

It was just a scratch

[radiant frigate]

so you are in favor of more asinine design such as the "have no ammo and 100% accuracy" vet challenge

[wind spruce]

If a penance doesn't cause some disruption by asking you to do something that you wouldn't normally do (and therefore inevitably disrupt the team) it's literally just a participation medal

[wind spruce]

Absolutely yes

[ashen elbow]

It’s 90% accuracy actually lol

[quartz barn]

So youre saying you can take enough dmg so you have less than a wound of health left and it will count for the penance

[wind spruce]

What a great penance. Actually requires you to play in a hugely different manner. Very challenging.

[radiant frigate]

it used to be 100% :)

[ashen elbow]

Oh what the fuck

[wind spruce]

These noobs don't know what we went through 😭

[radiant frigate]

i didn't go through that

i saw it, went "no fuck that" and left

[quartz barn]

Both this one amd the dont take dmg penance are easy

[wind spruce]

I saw the vet class and went "no fuck that" but I got all the old psyker ones haha

[ashen elbow]

Actually I just didn’t pay attention to the veteran penances when I played the game first week it released lol

And wanted to bonk enemies with a hammer

[wind spruce]

They really aren't lmao. Not taking damage isn't an easy feat even for veteran players.

[radiant frigate]

i was extremely disappointed when i found out the hammer doesn't do damage beyond the first target

[ashen elbow]

I honestly didn’t even care lol

[radiant frigate]

On Overwatch took me a lot of attempts because i have the urge to melee

and every now and then i would just take chip damage

or mutie, or dog, or whatever

[summer prairie]

isn't the no damage penance melee damage and you only have to play on malice

[ashen elbow]

On Overwatch wasn’t that hard for me, did it on a certain map that made me out of reach for melees

[radiant frigate]

i cared because it felt really dumb for the (then ranged-focus) vet to come in and clean up the horde i staggered because thammer killed one thing per swing

[ashen elbow]

Understandable.

I just wanted to bonk things and didn’t really care. I knew I was basically irrelevant at the time LOL

[radiant frigate]

or trying to clear space for a res but the horde keeps piling on because it is only stagger and no murder

so i played for a bit at release, got every class to 30 and then vanished to slap rats again

also toughness was really annoying

[ashen elbow]

I’ve never played Vermintide

[radiant frigate]

that's a shame

[ashen elbow]

Plan to play it whenever it goes on sale on steam

[radiant frigate]

all the shootymans were a menace in The Before Times™

[ashen elbow]

Cause I’m not paying $30 lol

[summer prairie]

I'd still play V2 if you could QP some of the mods, Peregrinaje etc.

[radiant frigate]

and you had the Mandatory Modern Shooter Health Regen Cover Break™ but you needed friends around to do it

[quartz barn]

Yes

[ashen elbow]

Bold to assume I even have friends lol. I already have a friend interested in Darktide so I plan to gift her the game when it goes on sale

[radiant frigate]

her start will be difficult

[ashen elbow]

Yep.

She very new to Warhammer as a whole so it’ll be even an experience

[quartz barn]

Honestly its not as bad as it sounds

Depends more on how good you are, because your killing power on lower difficulties has a huge impact

Had that experience a short while ago, played with a friend that was new, but we literally started on heresy because there were too little enemies on malice for them to be a threat lmao

[ashen elbow]

It really wasn’t once someone and a whole group were willing to help me lol. I had it real close at times but I panic when getting constantly jumped into hordes and had to fight by myself to survive 🫠

[quartz barn]

Teaching about recognizing sounds and how toughness works goes a long way because you dont really pick those things up on your own

[ashen elbow]

Yeah someone told me the first actual hit wouldn’t count which was odd.

Got hit once during that same mission and passed

My honest reaction to that

https://tenor.com/view/surprised-pikachu-pokemon-shock-surprised-pikachu-gif-15357817

[radiant frigate]

it would have been extremely helpful to have the penance description actually describe the penance

"no melee damage taken" to me implies "never get hit by melee attacks" and not "no melee health damage taken"

this also caused a lot of frustration in The Before Times™

[summer prairie]

it's the kind of penance you get naturally just by playing

[wind spruce]

Yes but I don't count/forget the "only have to play on malice" component because dropping down for penances is beyond pathetic.

[quartz barn]

My perspective on that is that it seemed harder than it actually is

Because everyone was bad back then

If you check out malice nowadays its basically empty because we're all used to auric

[wind spruce]

That's fair

And I'm not saying it's super hard or anything

But easy is a stretch

[quartz barn]

So the "how?" reaction is understandable

But when i did it i already casually played aurics

And got it first try xd

Kinda depends on the mission i guess

[wind spruce]

How good one gets after a shitload of hours definitely warps the perception

[quartz barn]

You can also make it easier now that voc is a thing

[radiant frigate]

disagree but i also do not like primarily shooting things

[tired estuary]

no overwatch also got way easier after class trees

[summer prairie]

The nurgle parasite enemy explosion seems to be the same explosion as the beast of nurgle death explosion. It doesn't seem to happen that frequently though, despite there being many enemies that seem to have it

[radiant frigate]

i hate the bonbon explosion because it always sends me off a cliff into instant death

[summer prairie]

maybe it only happens if the attack doesn't instantly kill the parasited enemy, since it's on damage taken

that's probably it

[tired estuary]

yeah idk its not always but sometimes my healthbar gets generated when recon brains or gluggers are magdumping the horde

[summer prairie]

I haven't seen it do damage but I could be wrong

[tired estuary]

it def does lol

[summer prairie]

If you have to ranged headshot without killing to trigger the explosion, it's only ever going to happen with some weapons

well

for horde enemies

[ashen elbow]

me finally using the plasma gun and triggering explosions by accident anyways

https://tenor.com/view/tee-hee-gif-16693466337760164069

[summer prairie]

Because most things can have it

renegade_captain

[upper sun]

so if we dont kill the captain long enough

we get another one?

[tired estuary]

that'd be tight actually

[upper sun]

also snipers gotta be at like 200% idc

if i dont kill those fuckers asap i get 4 more

[quartz barn]

Executor?

Im guessing this is a mauler

[jovial juniper]

Crushers

[weary crane]

Mutated duplicate?

[jovial juniper]

The Penance "Avoid The Chop" also referred to crushers as executors

[quartz barn]

Also, speaking of duplicate, isnt this just meant as '0.1 chance to be mutated'

Aka every one out of ten will be mutated (or 10% to spawn as mutated)

[summer prairie]

That's just the mutation chance, yes

[summer prairie]

but if it works like I thought it does, ranged headshotting a mutated captain would trigger the explosion instantly

[ashen trellis]

does venting shriek hit stuff behind the bulwark?

[echo root]

It even goes through walls chief

[ashen trellis]

I thought I was tripping lmao

I noticed but wasn't sure lol

do you also have to aim it vertically too or does it also hit everything in the vertical axis?

[zinc phoenix]

Anutha one

Anutha one

[young spear]

you have to aim it vertically

treat it as a big cone

[echo root]

I think you can see the cone if you hold F, unsure tho.

You can see the radius on Vet shout if you hold F at least, and the psyker bubble shields.

[young spear]

i dont think psyker shows any visual when you hold

and i dont think you'd see a cone from a first person perspective

[echo root]

You're probably right

[young spear]

ok i tested the shriek in the psykhanium

you dont actually need to aim it vertically

even while looking straight up, it hits everything within the 30m cone in front of you

but no indicator as far as i can tell

[nocturne dust]

Shriek does not care about your angle of view and has no indicator, yes

[nocturne dust]

I sentence you to an eternity of ASS seekers

[echo root]

Imma seek your ASS

https://tenor.com/view/pingu-booty-swiggity-swooty-gif-5276071

[nocturne dust]

You can't have it, it's mine.

[echo root]

[nocturne dust]

Fatshark won't let us share ASS, blame them

[patent steeple]

what does ASS stand for, btw?

[urban sandal]

auric storm survivor

[nocturne dust]

Auric Storm Survivor title

[hollow jolt]

REAL ASS players get their penance legit

[urban sandal]

i stopped using it because of all the people cheesing it

[hollow jolt]

I just use the Hazard portrait

it looks cooler too

[nocturne dust]

I just use the reject title

[nocturne dust]

That's not even a title

[hollow jolt]

I don't have a title

[nocturne dust]

Varlet title when

[hollow jolt]

Hazard Hunter is literally just me

"heed no danger" -> "I can take that crusher patrol"

[nocturne dust]

sees barrel
"Nah, I'd win."

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-ghost-barrel-explode-fly-gif-10528166394804192796

[lost meadow]

Hit me with a good gun psyker build

[paper harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/ghost-darktide-explode-warhammer-40k-gif-7567690485009069789

[nocturne dust]

Not really a gunker main but here's a gunker/meleeker build that works for me

[haughty star]

Man I really like scriers lately lol

This is what I've been using for scriers. There's a few different ways you can rock it with success

[zinc phoenix]

i would dump assail cleave for toughness or move speed on SG but otherwise yeah this is solid

[wispy bay]

Scrier with Assail allow you to throw glass indefinitely at max peril without dying.

[nocturne dust]

I'm not you 🤷‍♂️

[zinc phoenix]

well nobody is perfect 🤷‍♀️

👈 actually perfect 😤

[jovial juniper]

Funny because it seems like you're pointing nowhere

Since your pfp is slightly above it

Kek

[hollow jolt]

clearly its pointing towards the God Emperor

[upper sun]

this is unironically harder

[idle marsh]

What is the advantage of Gunker over staff builds besides that it’s cool as shit to have Gandalf pull out an assault rifle

[hollow jolt]

higher single target burst

[haughty star]

Faster gameplay, more bossing damage than most staves, weaving between blitz and melee and gun constantly

[hollow jolt]

that's about it

[haughty star]

Basically just a different kind of fun. Gunker is unlike any other shooty class because it mixes the chaos and glassness of being psyker with dps heavy shit like perilous and so on
Its more hectic than staves generally speaking

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, if you don't care about boss damage and don't like the playstyle, no real reason to use gunker. Plus, you can get comparable or better boss damage on a staff build if you aren't taking one of the meta guns.

[haughty star]

But yeah main focus is specials elites and boss dropping (single target damage), maxing out assail, and making out melee potential

[quartz barn]

Get every ms and crit boost and play melee psyker instead

[prime elk]

yes bonker build is best psyker

[hazy moss]

hey guys whats the dump stat on the dueling swords?

[radiant frigate]

mobility or cleave damage

[plucky flax]

Hi is the event thing out already?

[nocturne dust]

si

[plucky flax]

The havoc mode thing?

[nocturne dust]

oh no, that's not an event

[plucky flax]

So what is the event?

[nocturne dust]

explosive enemies if you shoot them + lots of bosses

[loud cliff]

Also, regarding the event, does staves and assail pop the tentacly bois? Or just guns?

[sour nest]

Staves do

[zinc phoenix]

Going without deaths for five runs as a SG psyker with pugs for teammates is harder than train on auric (so long as you bring void for the train) imo anyway

[sour nest]

I'd imagine Assail too since it's not melee but I haven't tried it

[nocturne dust]

you have to shoot the mutated part so staves only kinda do

[sour nest]

If they kinda do then they do

[upper sun]

issue is i dont trust my team enough to do train objectives

and if i wanna do train objectives i have to be afk for 20% of the mission

[jovial juniper]

Assail does hit head and arms every now and then

[nocturne dust]

only voidstrike can do it reliably

[jovial juniper]

So it'll pop every now and then

[upper sun]

i hate the train mini game so much bros............

[zinc phoenix]

Voidstrike killing literally everything on train means they have nothing else to do 😂

I shit you not it is super reliable

[upper sun]

ye

long straight line

it was made for voidstrike

[zinc phoenix]

My success rate on train before and after just taking voidstrike jumped like 90%

[upper sun]

mine is like 10% and ive never used void

[zinc phoenix]

Zero cover + long straight line + no side spawns

[upper sun]

checks out

[zinc phoenix]

Seriously, go with the Scriers gaze voidstrike build I post every now and again next time you do train and you’ll be amazed how easy it is

There’s only two tricky bits

[upper sun]

if i do train again i will

but i REALLY dislike the mini game i dont wanna touch it

[loud cliff]

It's a great opportunity to not have fun for 30 secs

[zinc phoenix]

• the part where you have to get the batteries. use assail to wipe all the second story gunners before void striking down the hallway like mad to ensure no horde or snipers can do anything to annoy team

• the boss fight. Run past the boss and stand by the door for the cogitator room. Voidstrike everything that comes near your team while they fight the boss

Guaranteed auto win

[echo root]

How tf do you do the plague tree mini game

[upper sun]

i love hab mini game

[zinc phoenix]

I have no idea, I lock in purgatus any time I do dreyko and focus on baleeting everything for the team

That has got to be the purest example of a flamer mission in the history of the franchise 😂

[paper harbor]

My beloved told me cook these people not in my dream

[zinc phoenix]

My one frustration with it is stealth zealots that refuse to do the fucking objective

[echo root]

Yeah that's what I do as well

[paper harbor]

Zealot behavior 101

Too fun for killing of them

[zinc phoenix]

Like how do you have stealth and be basically unkillable and not grasp that you need to be the one doing the objective that requires you to stand still and not be hit

Some people have an 🥚 where their brain should be I swear

[echo root]

I always do the objective while stealthed as zealot, but not the tree one

Still dunno how to do it

[zinc phoenix]

I wish I could help you, all I know is it has an assload of circles and whatnot

[radiant frigate]

you hit the circle that is lighting up or something idk

[paper harbor]

I never seen hab dreyko mini game

How it look like in remake?

It is same like rolling steel defusing bomb?

[radiant frigate]

no

entirely different

[nocturne dust]

look for white circle
click white circle

alternatively:
rapidly press all circles without looking for white

[upper sun]

what do you not know?

you have a couple of random circles each round in a total of 3 rounds

you can change the selection from circle to circle in each round

each round the task is to find the white one by hoving ~.5s on circles until they appear to be white or red

the location is saved in all rounds

so you can do the first round clear enemies do the other then clear enemies then do all very quickly by remembering where the white circles are found

tbh imo its the best mini game in darktide

[echo root]

Ooo, thanks chad

[upper sun]

my favorite part of it is how it doesnt reroll when you get interrupted

[plucky flax]

I just played a mutated round.

Didn't see any explosions.

[nocturne dust]

You have to shoot the mutated part

and the explosions are quire small, yeah

[weary crane]

It's pretty pointless

[plucky flax]

Hrm I was using surge right click.

[nocturne dust]

You kinda have to be in melee to be affected

[weary crane]

Only thing is more BoN but bubble solves that

[nocturne dust]

I still got blasted off a cliff by it 😭

[buoyant maple]

WASD to move between circles, if turn white, left click mouse
Do this 3 times

[plucky flax]

Is it always lights out or can it be something else?

[jovial juniper]

Something else

You just got bad rolls

[plucky flax]

Okay nice cos my eyes hurt after 1 light out.

I think I am done with darktide for the week.

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/weakness-disgusts-me-madara-uchiha-madara-naruto-weakness-disgust-me-gif-17219305

[weary crane]

https://tenor.com/view/goedulf-kisse-stk-tf-u-sayin-what-are-you-saying-gif-17945705955303148915

[plucky flax]

[dusk void]

I’m deciding whether or not is it worth it for me to complete the event. Did 2 missions last night, but I don’t wanna do any more farming

[ripe inlet]

new modifier modifies nothing, if you want to play normally might as well play with it

[summer prairie]

I haven't tested it, but it seemed like the mutated enemy only explodes when it survives the ranged headshot. Pretty sure that isn't intended behavior

[nocturne dust]

This isn't true because it triggers on brainburst on poxwalkers

[summer prairie]

I see

[ripe inlet]

the exploding enemies are piss easy to deal with, if they're a tanky enemy it's actually a benefit that they explode as it takes less effort to kill

and the explosion does nil damage to you

[summer prairie]

something is definitely wrong since they don't explode all the time and nothing in the code suggests that should be the case

[nocturne dust]

Probably

[dusk void]

I have 21 million ordos, 170k Pastel, and ~60k Diamante. I don’t need to play the event

[nocturne dust]

It's Fatshark after all

I like the boss spam

[summer prairie]

The event is still kind of fun if you hit the 1/7 for hi/shock, but even then there's quite a bit of variance in terms of boss spawns

[dusk void]

Really? All I’ve seen so far are more BoN spawns

[summer prairie]

I mean in terms of how many it spawns

depending on the map and the spawn timer rolls

[clear heath]

I haven't been lucky enough to see hi/shock with the new modifier yet. Didn't have much time to play yesterday

[idle marsh]

You get a frame from playing

[ripe inlet]

a pointless reward for a pointless event that was released after the holiday....

[jovial juniper]

See you in the event later

[hollow jolt]

I'm just happy the explosion isn't a barrel explosion lmao

"watch it be tox fire"

[hazy moss]

does perfect timing proc off the fire staff?

the flamethrower staff

[jovial juniper]

Yes

Hmm

I wonder if it procs multiple times due to crit strings

[hazy moss]

interesting

can soulblaze "crit"?

[jovial juniper]

The soulblaze itself can't

But inferno will apply two stacks of soulblaze at once when it crits

So if the info is right

You'll apply 6 stacks with a crit because of crit strings

[haughty star]

Recon goes apeshit with scriers inferno

I love it

[steel flame]

Inferno staff doesn't get crit strings

[zinc phoenix]

or need thm

[steep coral]

What is a good mod for left click spam? I tried "keepswinging" and its kinda buggy and sometimes do not work.

[steel flame]

......

Most of those are just badly scripted macros

[summer prairie]

I don't use it but you should read the discussion section of the mod for possible issues you are having

[steel flame]

In other news I met a console psyker that was able to m1 quell cancel their inferno staff. I was extremely impressed

[haughty star]

What brand of mouse do you use?

[upper sun]

you get an icon

thats a step in the right direction imo

[steep coral]

Razor and i have a macro there, just thought a mod is more game friendly 🙂

[haughty star]

If it's razer just record a macro alternating lmb and r 4 times and highlight all the options and change the timing to .3

[summer prairie]

he's not quell cancelling

[haughty star]

Ends with a product like this lol

[fiery stratus]

Watch this, not enough people saw this shit

[nocturne dust]

Ah, stairs. Always a problem.

[fiery stratus]

Big crock of shit

[flint pawn]

outplayed tbh

[upper sun]

yup

thats still an issue

ive had it throw me inside medicae

dont kill chaos spawns when they pick up a player 😭

[flint pawn]

I loaded into a game just to instantly fall through the map at the start of the mission earlier

[fiery stratus]

That happened to me on VT2 the other day, joined a game, took one step and fell through the map to my death

[mossy oyster]

legacy mechanics

and people say fatshark is lazy

[flint pawn]

loads into match "They got the boss!"

[fiery stratus]

They're as good at keeping bugs around as Bethesda

[verbal thistle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1277677568702681128/1289787875969466460/yipeeeeeee.mp4?ex=672f7cd0&is=672e2b50&hm=6c216f3f9d1328cf50399f83edb176f51a5c9461c012dc2f0a925c5460d045ee&

[steel flame]

Nah I talked with em after. They ended up putting m1 on the trigger and quell on the bumper and using that to quell cancel but it leads to hand cramps after doing it to long

[summer prairie]

Was re: the razer macro suggestion

[steel flame]

Ah

[flint pawn]

guys I played with Moyster E today

[steel flame]

Not a huge fan of macros out side automating pre buffs for games where the cycle is.........tiring. but for games like darktide? There are so many varied timings in this game that macroing them is just gonna lead to not getting better at doing any of the actual mechanics xP

[haughty star]

Nah bro its fun

Lmblmblmblmblmblmblmb is not a skill and gets tiring on the fingys

[flint pawn]

it's the real Oyster E

I'm ToyStor E's biggest fan

[quartz barn]

who

[flint pawn]

Don't you know who Cloyster E is?

[quartz barn]

i just know unsanctioned psyker

[flint pawn]

I can't believe you're so uncultured you don't know Hoister E 😠

[haughty star]

I just know chaos from here

[fringe garden]

What kinda gamer complains about their fingers getting tired? That's like a gym bro complaining about lifting.

[quick tulip]

The kind of gamer that craves the strength and certainty of steel

[haughty star]

Using a macro is literally no different than these disabler heatmaps and killboard mods and all that shit lol

Its a qol thing

[hardy tulip]

What is dump stat on mk4 dueling sword?

[verbal thistle]

mobility

[hardy tulip]

Thanks.

[pine shore]

What keystone should I get for purgatus assail shield build?

[haughty star]

I dump cleave cuz the thing basically hardly cleaves anyway and the movement speed jump is pretty significant

[late sapphire]

cleave damage doesn't impact cleave damage at all

it's a flat 10% infested and unarmored damage bonus

[haughty star]

Weird

Oh so it's literally garbage lol

[haughty star]

Where did you find this info?

[modest perch]

Inspect weapon

See what the stats actually do

[late sapphire]

Yeah it's like 235 to 250 headshot damage on lights vs infested and unarmored

[late sapphire]

the stat does actually say cleave damage

it just means damage though

i tested it in the psykhanium, two identical combat swords one with cleave damage dump the other with mobility dump

[modest perch]

Tbh I’m too lazy to roll another one (3)

The extra mobility would probably just get me into trouble lol

[hardy tulip]

What about blessings? Beside Uncanny Strike and Shred? Thrust is worth getting?

[neat temple]

im new for the record but is psyker just bad the whole head popping thing seems kinda useless

[modest perch]

Riposte is just straight up superior to shred

Precog is also good if you’re not specifically chasing crit chance

[verbal thistle]

Dont use it as a main weapon

its a tool to snipe elites and snipers

[modest perch]

Agile if you’re just lazy af and want to enjoy it before it gets nerfed into the ground

[modest perch]

Ngl every class feels like shit when you’re leveling

[verbal thistle]

and there are ways to buff it when you get max level

[neat temple]

alright is there acc a differance between my right and left click? its doesnt seem like theres one

[haughty star]

Nah psukwr the worst lol

[modest perch]

Right pre charges

[late sapphire]

uncanny strike is pretty good, it's a ~20% damage boost to flak maniac unyielding and ~50% to carapace, precog is ~30% boost to crit and weakspot hits and a ~40% boost to crit weakspots

[haughty star]

Right just precharges

[late sapphire]

right click is slower

[neat temple]

oh ok kinda hoping it was a aoe i was to dumb to figure out lol

[modest perch]

So you can instapop something you know is coming around a corner or whatever’s

lol it’s ok I was lost af when I started psyker

[late sapphire]

that's actual numbers, uncanny riposte is best for general use imo

[verbal thistle]

left click will auto lock on and release, right click is pre charging it then manual release, no dps difference

[modest perch]

Also reload to quell peril btw

Took me an embarrassing amount of time to figure that out

[hardy tulip]

Still my doges arent that great.

[modest perch]

I was just standing around like an idiot waiting for my peril to go down

[late sapphire]

riposte is 6s

so it's basically permanently up unless you are executing smite stunned enemies or something

the melee weakspot damage on agile is basically worthless, and you already get five huge dodges but it is fun

[haughty star]

Wait so are you saying cleave is or is not a dump?

[shy edge]

!! CURSE OF TZEENTCH !!

[primal aurora]

I think Empowered brain burst should be much faster. +200% charge speed instead of +50%, so it could would work as limited resource quickswap tool vs snipers or other specialists.
Or maybe give an option to negate slow down speed, so you could move faster while you charge brain burst.

[late sapphire]

agile != mobility

[haughty star]

With the node on brain burst plus a shield it's pretty frikkin fast lol

[late sapphire]

dump cleave damage on ds always

[summer prairie]

mobile/cleave/penetration are all kind of worthless

you need uncanny to do decent carapace damage anyway and when you have uncanny up, you do like 10 more damage to Crusher with 80 penetration

[primal aurora]

But why it should be tied up to an ability? What if you want to use Brain Burst in different combinations?

[late sapphire]

uncanny doesn't do thaaat much for carapace damage

at least for the stabbing heavy

[summer prairie]

it's around +60% dmg

[late sapphire]

Yeah

60 to 80 pen is around +15% dmg without uncanny

with uncanny it's 4% or something

[summer prairie]

at 5 stacks it's 1,7%

[late sapphire]

Oh right because it's additive to the rending

Yeah it really doesn't matter

Though i'd still prefer penetration in case i ever want to go riposte precog

[haughty star]

Because it would be frikkin op if they made empowered bb four times as fast as it is now and than fed it through a ability modifier that made it 75 percent faster than that?

[haughty star]

To be honest even if there wasn't a true dump I'd try to not dump mobility 60 percent ds feels awful compared to 80 mob

[late sapphire]

There is almost no difference...

6% to 8% bonus dodge distance, 80% to 89% sprint speed bonus

Dodge 2% further, sprint 4% faster...

[hollow jolt]

counter-point: I want BB to be op

[fringe garden]

Would it really be any more OP than some of the other things in our kit?

[haughty star]

Bb is already pretty good imo

[prime elk]

it's annoying that you have to specifically build for it to be usable to begin with

[fiery stratus]

Bb just needs a way to shorten the charge so it can hit things before it gets shot with a revolver. You can obviously hover and keep it around a point, but it'd be nice if it would charge faster

[prime elk]

it's the weakest of the three blitzes

the main use without a dedicated build is hitting distant specialists

except assail can do that already in most circumstances

[vestal galleon]

I wouldn't say so. It's your way to deal with distanced threats and/or dmg dump on a boss if using close ranged weapons/staves. Not as snappy as Zealot's knifes, but considering that Psyker's kit is already tuned nicely it's a very agreeable middle ground. I find myself using BB often enough into gunner groups and/or snipers if on a staff and there's a group of them on elevation. + safety of corner casting

[lyric hatch]

Iyo what’s the best psyker voice

[nocturne dust]

Beloved says Seer

[vestal galleon]

FOR MY BELOVED

[lyric hatch]

Staves are do both of those things very well

[vestal galleon]

Purgatus doesn't, force - you could, but it's a fool's errand when faced with a group volley. Faster to blitz and BB without the downside of suppression, stagger, aiming, etc

We're talking ranged encounters, not the ones where you could easily close the gap

[nocturne dust]

Purgatus is the only staff that doesn't, the other staves do distance very well

and Purgatus can easily run EE

[vestal galleon]

It's probably my skill issue but I foudn it to be extremely wonky and uncomfortable to engage in ranged discussion with a group of 8 gunners on a force staff. Adding chaff to that doesn't help the case

[prime elk]

purgautus is pretty good against bosses now too

and you also have a melee weapon

which most psykers tend to forget

[nocturne dust]

Which staff? Lmb suppresses a ton, the ranged enemies won't even fire back if you shoot anywhere near them.

[prime elk]

against stuff like gunner groups, assail is way faster

[vestal galleon]

I live by and die by my Deimos, don't throw such insults!

[prime elk]

BB is just not in a good spot

[prime elk]

good good

[lyric hatch]

Besides purge you can spam staff primary and melt with a surge and peril crit build + the dmg debuff on staff primary perk

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, BB is pretty terrible. I only ever pull it out on Purgatus if my team is incapable of dealing with a sniper.

[prime elk]

i see a lot of psykers just never using their melee even when it would be the right tool for the situation

[nocturne dust]

and specifically only Purgatus because wildfire

[prime elk]

i just wished you didn't have to specifically build BB to make it useful

like the other blitzes are ok (smite) and great (assail) right out of the box

[vestal galleon]

Force Trauma I believe it was called? I run no perill reduction nodes (aside from blank ones), so doing leftclicking is eh in terms of TTK comparison

[nocturne dust]

Even then, it's still not that useful for that amount of investment

[lyric hatch]

I tend to run double lighting

[prime elk]

yes, to add insult to injury...

even if you build around BB, it's still not that good lol

[nocturne dust]

Wat

Staff lmbs blow BB out of the water for TTK on ranged enemies

[lyric hatch]

That’s why you don’t have good staff dmg

[nocturne dust]

Even without Empyric Resolve

[indigo plank]

Opinions on battle meditation go

[nocturne dust]

and you should be running Empyric Resolve on a non-purg staff

[lyric hatch]

Good but I rarely run it

[vestal galleon]

I have good damage with staff and venting shriek, I just prefer BB in those situations

[plucky flax]

Wall bang with creeping flames Xd

[nocturne dust]

It's a choice. It exists.

Battle Meditation is something I almost never take.

[indigo plank]

Quelling peril doesn't really seem like it's a problem after you get the hang of whatever playstyle you're going for imo

[nocturne dust]

and the one build I have it on is because I just don't have the points to go around it, that build is too strapped for points 😭

[vestal galleon]

I'd highly disagree on that since my survivability skyrocketed as soon as I dumped it with the overall damage output, considering the +20%

[lyric hatch]

It’s sounds good on paper but it hurts you when it helps you

[nocturne dust]

Git gud

[vestal galleon]

Warp rider or smth like that from the node

[nocturne dust]

🤷‍♂️

[vestal galleon]

Very informative, very objective, I thank you for your input

[lyric hatch]

they stack

[nocturne dust]

Warp Rider won't be hurt that much by ER

Like, you can just stick around high peril

and even if you don't edge, ER is still a net positive, a +20% damage boost isn't as significant as you think it is when you still get most of that damage boost at lower perils

Which is why Warp Rider is good anyway, it just gives damage

[lyric hatch]

And isn’t ER +30%

[plucky flax]

Veri cool.

[vestal galleon]

I stick around high peril without it and get better timings with venting shriek on 85 withour ER. + the constant toughness regen really helps with chip damage and overall sustain. Given, you're not going to be involved in peril cancelling with this amount of generation, but I'm not into that anyways

[nocturne dust]

I mean, sorry, it's just I've had this discussion before and the answer is 'git gud' quite literally. Learn to dodge and avoid damage, because that's the best way for Psyker who simply cannot tank anywhere near as well as any other class. ER's malus becomes a whole lot less dangerous when you're good because the only thing that kills you is either going to ignore toughness anyway or is going to kill you very quickly (and thus the benefit of some toughness generation is minimal because you either have enough time to regenerate or you're dead anyway). This is at least how it is on auric dam.

[lyric hatch]

I’m curious what build you’re running, is there a way you can post your build?

[nocturne dust]

I'm not sure at all what you mean by 'better timings'. You should have no trouble maintaining 85% peril for when shriek is off cooldown on any staff excluding Purgatus. Purgatus is the one exception. Quell cancelling isn't super relevant to a discussion on ER, you don't need to do it and it's not super beneficial either way.

[vestal galleon]

I mean, I do have to work on split second decision making, but dropping ER is one of the single decisions that actually helped me to start clearing auric maelstroms. I get your point, but this just works for me and I'm not a detriment to my team by any margin with this build, so I see no exact reason to do the switcheroo

[nocturne dust]

That's fair. I'm not saying you're wrong to do so, I'm simply saying ER is absolutely the meta.

[vestal galleon]

I think it's pretty basic Seer-Shriek-Warp. How's this discord with links/pictures?

[plucky flax]

Probably the most OP build.

[lyric hatch]

Pretty good, here’s what I run mainly

[nocturne dust]

You can embed if you aren't a grey name.

[plucky flax]

Creeping flames spam Xd

[nocturne dust]

wat in the tarnation

[plucky flax]

Watch some UnsanctionedPsyker on youtube for best creeping flames spammer in dt.

[lyric hatch]

Oh yeah I found the Darktide builder site and just put it in there

[clear heath]

wtf

[vestal galleon]

How do you a fuill sized like that? I need to scroll ingame. Or is it from some web resource?

Gotcha

[nocturne dust]

"It hurts, Beloved"

[nocturne dust]

Games lantern

website

[lyric hatch]

Why what’s wrong

[nocturne dust]

The build is wrong

[lyric hatch]

Show me my darling

[clear heath]

so i'm assuming this is an lmb spam build because of this

[nocturne dust]

I mean what is the build supposed to be

[clear heath]

but then

[nocturne dust]

cuz I can't tell

[lyric hatch]

My luck is bad so i rarely see it pop

[clear heath]

what staff is this?

[lyric hatch]

Elktro, but any but purg work with it

[nocturne dust]

I assume this is LMB spam?

[nocturne dust]

Purg? Purg?

[lyric hatch]

Yeah (yes I know I’m not using mettle)

[vestal galleon]

I'm desperately trying to add picture here but it doesn't work

[nocturne dust]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d5f5cb5-afee-4f51-9393-b8429e8c6765/

Here

[clear heath]

electro staff has enough crit with literally nothing to proc mettle
and it will definitely have enough to proc after warp nexus

[nocturne dust]

Purg

Take it

[nocturne dust]

Grey name moment

Talk enough and you'll no longer be grey

[vestal galleon]

[indigo plank]

Would you recommend going whole hog Cara/Unyielding on RMB surge or sticking with Flak + Maniac/Cara/Uny

[nocturne dust]

Here is much more typical lmb spam build

[lyric hatch]

I have the oldest staff in world

[vestal galleon]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d715c39-faa4-4440-82c5-b8766968e116/trauma
Trauma build, Purg drops wildfire for 7.5% toughness on warp kill

[nocturne dust]

don't drop wildfire

Wildfire is actually useful, despite what the naysayers say

Drop essence harvest

or Warp Battery

[vestal galleon]

I'm toying with it and I think I like it more with it. Just currently looking at stack generation without it

Ah, purg also runs perfect timing

I found a skill point from somewhere

Don't ask me where

Since warp also works for soulblaze stacks

[plucky flax]

FLAK MANIAC

[clear heath]

I don't see how that matters. You can slap warp nexus on it regardless, and the staff itself will just always have a good crit chance

and if this is an lmb spam build, you're spamming crits pretty often

especially with surge blessing

[lyric hatch]

It was a joke

[nocturne dust]

Flak/Unyielding is what I use

[vestal galleon]

I find it extremely useful on Trauma, especially since I'm running blaze on crit. Almost constant 6 stacks/horde/blitz

[vestal galleon]

Would you say that it also works for nexus surge voidstrike? Been trying to concoct a similar LMB build, dunno if extra nodes in keystone are a trap

[indigo plank]

THANK YOU SIBLING

[indigo plank]

Yeah my main concern is dealing with bulwarks so everyone else can get back to work

[nocturne dust]

There's no real reason to use lmb voidstrike when lmb EK is superior but it works

[indigo plank]

Thank you both lol

[nocturne dust]

Unyielding is specifically helpful for Bosses/Reapers

[vestal galleon]

EK being? Sorry, kinda green to the game

[nocturne dust]

Electrokinetic

[vestal galleon]

Ah, that one

[plucky flax]

I just did 200k monster damage without unyielding playing the event. Xd

[nocturne dust]

Do more

[vestal galleon]

Thanks, gotcha. Just wanted to tinker since I like RMB sliding on EK more

[plucky flax]

No I leave some for the rest of the team.

[nocturne dust]

I did like 500k consistently with gunker

on bosses alone

[plucky flax]

Okay we're talking about surge staff.

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/crumch-game-grumps-aaaaaa-aah-aaah-gif-20318560

[vestal galleon]

they say with 3 bots on their team

[plucky flax]

Some of my teammates might as well be bots tbh.

But actually the guys in this new events are not too bad and they don't cry when I go for grim.

[vestal galleon]

I'm still trash but I still like bots more than people like 60% of the time. I still try to play this as a team game so people going on their own adventure on auric mael really hurts my soul

[plucky flax]

That's me sry.

[vestal galleon]

I'd BB you but you're to fast for me to cast it

[nocturne dust]

I won't cry, I'll just silently judge you.

[spice flame]

Oh I just watched your last vid @plucky flax

[plucky flax]

If you can't handle grims don't pick grims missions aaaaaaaaaa

[plucky flax]

Oh hai.

[vestal galleon]

Anywho, thanks guy for the input on the builds

[nocturne dust]

but event 😭

There are more reasons to pick grim missions than the bonus objective 😭

[vestal galleon]

Nah just run triple corruption resist or bust

Oh hey, grey name's gone

[prime elk]

i just QP 😭

[plucky flax]

It's extra challenge for the team.

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/omedetou-congratulations-evangelion-shinji-chair-gif-17781895581304383421

[plucky flax]

Separate the weaks from the strongs.

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-hurt-me-im-too-weak-weak-please-gif-15366451

[vestal galleon]

I just imagine you saying that, sodding off with a knife shroud zealot and dying offscreen whilst aggroin 5 packs of crushers

Like a canon event at this point

[plucky flax]

I play psyker way more than zealot.

Mostly surging around.

[vestal galleon]

Gunpsyker with double barrel

[spice flame]

I'm free from the event

yeaaaay

[vestal galleon]

Wait, what's the event? I'm living under the rock

[spice flame]

must be a big rock

[vestal galleon]

I'm quite a green(skin) to the community and the game yet :(

[vestal galleon]

<3

[nocturne dust]

Check steam announcements or the forums or #📢news-bulletin

🤷‍♂️

[spice flame]

some currrencies and a protrait frame to earn

that uh, I don't have ? wth

[spice flame]

where's my frame T-T

[vestal galleon]

They say in the post that at least you'd want to leave the hub or jest relog, or wait a bit if nothing helps

[vestal galleon]

Ew, ironhelm

[spice flame]

Figured

[austere warren]

Ironhelm fun, ironhelm good.

Thammer fun, thammer good.

[spice flame]

ah there you are

[vestal galleon]

Crucis or bust. The ultimate bonk.

[prime elk]

Crucis is so much fun now

[vestal galleon]

I can't stress enough how fun bonking packs of crushers or bosses away is. I still love me Deimos, but Crucis do be looking good

[austere warren]

Ironhelm got damage and the wider variety of solid combos to different situations for me but I do generally prefer crucis mk2.

It's my first foray into two-handed stealth antics because it's funny that that's the icon for shroudfield.

(I also just like thrashing the shit out of elites and bosses since vt2 so)

Carapace + Unyielding gaming.

[vestal galleon]

Nothing is as satisfying is chaos spawn hitting a homerun lol

[late sapphire]

no perfect timing is wild

New event is pretty fun, the bons are kinda evil though because i'm sticking to my voidstrike build...

Good training though

[late sapphire]

@radiant frigate

[spice flame]

Hm ?

oh

ha

[haughty star]

Gun and lmb are really solid choices rn too

[late sapphire]

ds melee

[austere warren]

I like making them spin out from a headshot on max momentum thrust bonk

[spice flame]

I'm in danger

[red knot]

Hey hey hey

[haughty star]

AYO EVERYONE TO GENERAL SOME DUDE SAID ASSAIL IS USELESS

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-gangster-monkey-monk-monke-shaptic-gif-21239890

[nocturne dust]

Assail is useless (against carapace)

[late sapphire]

assail does kinda suck with certain weapons idk

useful but not worth investing extra points in

[nocturne dust]

This is also true

Assail is no main weapon

[tight saddle]

Do you spam RMB on voidstrike or full charge?

[late sapphire]

depends

[nocturne dust]

Full charge

damage scales hard

[late sapphire]

half charged rmb cleaves and kills chaff

full charged otherwise

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, you can do lesser charges against weaker enemies

[late sapphire]

if the line is long enough full charge still

[tight saddle]

What build do you guys usually run with Voidstrike?

[late sapphire]

or if its a mixed horde

right side all the way down on voidstrike

[spice flame]

I run right side with voidstrike and assail, cause precision damage is buffed

without it it's okay for horde

[spice flame]

with disrupt destiny it can kill some packs of elites

[nocturne dust]

Battle meditation?

[late sapphire]

Sometimes i swap it for +toughness

Or maybe souldrinker

bm is ok on voidstrike i think because if there is enough chaff you can cleave 20 of them in one shot

Really though the bm point is an extra point left over you can put it where you want

[haughty star]

I feel like voids charge and peril cost make it not really benefit much from less peril but to each their own

[red knot]

……you psykers are awesome don’t let anyone tell you otherwise…..

[nocturne dust]

Do you use voidstrike with Scrier's or Shriek?

[late sapphire]

.

[errant condor]

Hey sorry I just wanted to rub it in that I was right hope thats ok with you

[haughty star]

I mean you're not?

Its literally the best of the blitzs ep smite aside

[late sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-fish-this-is-bait-gif-11212449

[haughty star]

Shriek

So i suppose yeah the lessened peril could help retain gaze longer

[late sapphire]

Nahh it doesn't really help with sg

Sometimes it does but not always

it's not a particularly useful talent on the build but the other options are also kinda eh

[unique mist]

can someone explain what makes blaze trauma good?

[broken carbon]

the radius in which soulblaze is applied is much larger than you’d think

[late sapphire]

shriek is what makes it good

[broken carbon]

and 6 stacks is enough to kill chaff

and stacking 6 stacks with the stacks from shriek

is enough to kill a majority of enemies

[nocturne dust]

The radius you see is the epicenter. The actual explosion (and thus what gets hit with soulblaze) is much larger.

[late sapphire]

and then you can add the stacks from nearby dying elites onto that

in short, blaze trauma can deal with infinite hordes of anything smaller than crushers

the main benefit of it over something like purgatus is the range, stagger and the fact that it can also kill and stagger crushers fairly well - and while you kill the crusher, everything around it also dies

[echo root]

Doesn't feel like it does full damage unless it's in the middle of it.

[ripe obsidian]

How hard doth it scale?

If you have actual numbers, at least.

[ripe obsidian]

A comparison of Blaze Trauma with not-blaze Trauma

Same game.

Look upon the condition damage and weep.

[west flax]

penetrating flame or blaze away for inferno staff

[ripe obsidian]

Blaze Away

[cyan portal]

having an inferno staff on team kinda invalidates meaningful dmg data

[west flax]

i already have warp nexus

[echo root]

Blaze Away

You do much more damage in general + start staggering rangers with rmb

[west flax]

alright, i saw the other advertised on a build to help with flak and carapace damage and i wanted to know it really helps that much

[ripe obsidian]

I will find another one, then. >:(

[cyan portal]

You were obviously a much better player, your direct dmg is double the other psyker, which blazing doesn't account for at all. Not saying your point is wrong, just that this data doesn't really prove it.

[ripe obsidian]

I am having a hard time finding a game with Voidblast where my damage isn't notably higher than other players'

[nocturne dust]

yeh

[nocturne dust]

pubs in a nutshell

[ripe obsidian]

Okay, here's one. Other psyker was LMB surge

[nocturne dust]

Also, to note, you can 'steal' soulblaze damage. Not sure how it is in PowerDI, but in Scoreboard the first stacker gets all the damage.

[ripe obsidian]

I think PowerDI is more accurate

I have much larger differences in damage between Scoreboard and PowerDI when there's another psyker than without

[cyan portal]

Yeah, generally scoreboards just aren't useful to prove such things. You kinda have to run both versions yourself, and then compare the outcome across a fair sample size of games, and see if there is a noticeable difference.

[cyan portal]

Its the same in Power DI, it is just a base thing in the game. First stack applied owns the dot and determines all buffs/boosts to its subsequent damage, which any data log will attribute entirely to the first stack applier.

[nocturne dust]

Min (as Min as I can get it at least) Charge Damage is about 178 on my staff, and Max Charge Damage is 1223, both on reaper weakspot

[echo root]

The thing that you're not accounting for is all the CDR you get from In Fire Reborn which wouldn't have been the case if you didn't have soulblaze on the staff. Being able to consistently have 4-6 Warp Charges is huge for how often you can cast Venting Shriek

[nocturne dust]

Half is about 650-700

[cyan portal]

I think power DI and scoreboard calculate/subtract overkill damage in different ways, so you get different final damage results. With a second psyker there is bound to be more soulblaze which means more low hp enemies which means more fixed damage attacks are doing overkill.

[echo root]

In Fire Reborn doesn't care how the target died, just that it had Soulblaze on it when it died.

[ripe obsidian]

So nearly linear scaling, if 50% is halfish of 100%

[haughty star]

How do I go about modding dorktide

[ripe obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/math-numbers-confused-when-he-say-hes-straight-what-gif-7675506

How I feel saying 50% is half of 100%

[nocturne dust]

yep

[haughty star]

I want the specialist radar

[echo root]

That's cheating

[ripe obsidian]

Vortex is the easiest way to do it

[nocturne dust]

I mod manually

[echo root]

I was going to post everything you needed until I saw the radar being mentioned.

[nocturne dust]

no u

[haughty star]

Shit looks cool 😎

And it's a pve game sooo I don't get too worked up about that nonsense lol

[echo root]

Spidey sense haram

[nocturne dust]

What radar are you talking about? Spidey Sense?

[haughty star]

Yeah

[nocturne dust]

Spidey Sense is our lord and savior 🙏

[nocturne dust]

Call me when Fatshark fixes silent enemies

[haughty star]

Whatever one that fucker @plucky flax uses

[neat temple]

the game said i unlocked a staff but i cant figure out how to get it?

[echo root]

You can now use that staff or have it appear in the shop

[nocturne dust]

yeh, spidey sense is the mod

[haughty star]

I just use external speakers and have children screaming all the time so I would like some indication of specialists being around

[neat temple]

but its not in the shop?

[haughty star]

Plus even with headphones they're literally silent half the time

[haughty star]

Brunts armory is what you want

[echo root]

Cause the shop resets every 1h. You can find it on the bottom button of the two once you open the shop. Then click ranged weapon.

[neat temple]

so not the armoury exchange?

[nocturne dust]

Why does Flesh Tearer not work on knife punch crits

[west flax]

you get a basic one then

[nocturne dust]

[west flax]

on brunt's armory

[neat temple]

ohhh im dumb i see ty

[haughty star]

Yeah the shop needs to update

Itnonly does that every hour or so

[echo root]

"Emperor's Gift" is when an item is added to your inventory. Weapon unlocks just means you can now use / aquire those weapons.

[ripe obsidian]

Is the peril headsplosion 3 seconds from mistake to pop?

[echo root]

What's the mod for numeric cooldowns?

[cyan portal]

It doesn't even care which psyker applied it. See a inferno on your team, lock in fire reborn in for free warp charges, win more.

[echo root]

Yes, you are correct. That goes for Souldrinker as well.

[ripe obsidian]

NumericUI

[clear heath]

pretty sure it's part of numeric ui

[slate oasis]

did anyone mention numeric ui yet?

[broken carbon]

there’s this mod, called numericUI, you might wanna check it out

[cyan portal]

Only mod you need is toggle hud, then you can play like the emperor intended (without a bunch of cheaty UI technology)

[nocturne dust]

Cawl says we should mod our games.

[cyan portal]

an added bonus of no hud is you don't have to read the comments of your whiney reject teammates constantly moaning about 'not being able to see anything through the soulblaze' and 'not having fun because you're killing everything too quickly'

[nocturne dust]

Counterpoint: I like having friends.

[cyan portal]

Should probably reroll an ogryn then..

[echo root]

Honestly have not had a single complaint about not being able to see through soulblaze yet

[nocturne dust]

You act like I can't have one of each class

[cyan portal]

It was was all a joke. Shilling playing with no Hud just seemed like the most useful response to someone asking for spidey sense mod.

[nocturne dust]

I don't follow that logic but you do you

[kindred edge]

It's a co-op shooter, why do you care if somebody uses a crutch to help their game sense? Hurts you 0%

[verbal thistle]

no hud gaming is so fun

[clear heath]

i try to aim directly through people's faces to make my friends suffer

[echo root]

You are a scourge

[nocturne dust]

somehow it being a zealot is 100% on brand

[verbal thistle]

zealot is the easiest to turn off brain

[ripe obsidian]

You are braver than I

[cyan portal]

No Hud psyker is extra exciting. How much peril do you have? How much toughness/hp? Is your team alive? Nobody knows.

[nocturne dust]

HUD is just how psyker processes warp info

it's canonical

[cyan portal]

You get used to the sound/visual cues pretty quickly. It really is quite fun to play listening to/looking at the game rather than numbers/icons on your UI.

[nocturne dust]

I mean I'm already used to those cues. Spidey Sense isn't replacing those, it's just a backup for when those cues don't happen because Fatshark programming

[kindred edge]

My hearing is too fucked up, I don't think I could do no HUD

[cyan portal]

Sure, I'm not trying to shame spidey or any helper mods you want to use. I've used most of them myself along the way.

[nocturne dust]

I think there's a certain atmospheric novelty to playing without HUD, but it's not something I'd regularly engage in or find fun very often.

[kindred edge]

I don't use spidey but honestly I should. I miss sound cues all the time

[nocturne dust]

Do you miss them or do they not happen?

Fatshark plz

It's just simple audio

[cyan portal]

I think no hud is mostly just the end point of 'this game is too easy' types.

[kindred edge]

How would I know? Lol

[nocturne dust]

You can't say this game is too easy until you solo with no talents and a 0% damage weapon /s

[nocturne dust]

Record the game.

[kindred edge]

Fair enough lol

[cyan portal]

'this progression coop game is too easy, unless i don't play in coop or use the game's progression system'

[nocturne dust]

Well, I don't know a single game where someone somewhere doesn't complain about it being too easy

[supple dock]

I don't think I've heard anyone call Diablo 2 too easy

just sayin

[cyan portal]

I'm really just trying to poke fun at the gamers who complain DT is too easy, but then play with spidey sense and health bars and every other trainer wheels mod that makes the game easier.

[nocturne dust]

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/d2r/t/is-the-game-too-easy-now-is-there-any-sense-of-achievement-left/144923

[strong gulch]

Save those starter weapons for the end game. They are already maxed.

[nocturne dust]

Now to be fair that's D2R

but I can't find D2 anymore without D2R 😭

[supple dock]

yeah they're just bitching about Sunder charms

spoiler: it didn't

[nocturne dust]

I mean if you just google it

[supple dock]

and Terrorzones

[nocturne dust]

There's dozens upon dozens of results for it being too easy

just as a general complaint

[supple dock]

Huh.

Recent? About Mosaic?

[nocturne dust]

And yes, there are probably explanations for why they find it easy, but they find it easy nonetheless

[supple dock]

Hmmmm fair enough but yeah in general I've never heard anyone call D2 LoD too easy

[nocturne dust]

I don't think my search engine is returning the right mosaic here, lol.

[supple dock]

uhhh

assassin runeword

having 2 of them allows assassins to not lose their charges when using a finishing move

It's glorious and way too overpowered lmao

[nocturne dust]

Hm, well I don't play D2 anyway so my point stands

[supple dock]

lmao

[late sapphire]

how would punches trigger fleshtearer

think about it

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/brass-knuckles-knuckles-knuckle-duster-titane-knuckles-knucks-gif-10129292627361939964

[late sapphire]

Anyways spidey sense is peak because it lets me listen to loud music while playing

[echo root]

A few rusty nails between your fingers

[jovial juniper]

Force Sword push attack might one shot parasited enemies

[spiral sky]

because it has the name trauma in it of course

[tough obsidian]

psyker fellas

am i alone in the opinion that we need a telekinesis weapon

because i think that shit would be fucking BALLER

i would say ability but a weapon would be better since another staff would be nice

[jovial juniper]

1 damage one shot is real

[nocturne dust]

literally assail:

[tough obsidian]

thinking primary fire would be you click and hold on a single enemy, being able to lift them up and throw them while the alt fire is the same thing but up to about 6 enemies

or 3

[nocturne dust]

[tough obsidian]

to launch at other enemies

[nocturne dust]

Deepwood Staff 2: Darktide Boogaloo

[tough obsidian]

i see what youre saying but like

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-warhammer-astartes-astartes-project-space-marine-gif-16568112402508265140

i wanna jus hit a mf with this

but i think a weapon like that might have to rework the entire game

[nocturne dust]

Not really

VT2 has the deepwood staff

We could just have a version of that

[tough obsidian]

i havent really played VT2

does it work something like that?

[nocturne dust]

The secondary on the staff lets you levitate elites

[echo root]

Is that the one they added a 1m cooldown to in the new pvp mode?

[nocturne dust]

Maybe? I don't play VT2 pvp

[tough obsidian]

what does primary do?

[nocturne dust]

shoots little bolts

[tough obsidian]

ah

[nocturne dust]

same as staff lmbs here, lol

but in a burst I guess

[tough obsidian]

i see lol

THEN WHY CANT WE HAVE IT

[strong gulch]

I know not the ways of PvP in VT2. On launched it could levitate A LOT of enemies in short time.

[nocturne dust]

It can only levitate like 3 elites and then you have to wait iirc

[strong gulch]

The primary is like needles. Kinda like if assail flew staight and didn't home in on a target.

[strong gulch]

Yeah now.

Unless it changed again.

[nocturne dust]

Yes

[white river]

whats the dump stat for the trauma staff?

[nocturne dust]

warp res

[strong gulch]

Warp res

[white river]

bet

[nocturne dust]

all staves dump war res except voidstrike, which dumps blast radius

[strong gulch]

The meta build for trauma has ER (empyric resolve) and paths into WC (warp charges).

[echo root]

Makes sense, I can only cast 2-3 fully charged blasts with my current talents

(Without ER)

[strong gulch]

For a non-meta and personal thing to help make peril management for consistent for me when I play non ER trauma, I dump damage. Example build is Assail + DD + trauma + shriek. Shriek is the only thing in the talent tree to help with peril management. I also swap between things a lot more.

On the dedicated trauma build, I rarely swap off trauma.

both are fire trauma

I'm just glad we all finally got on the "don't dump damage" train on fire trauma.

[nocturne dust]

There was a dump damage on trauma train?

[strong gulch]

Yes

[patent jacinth]

Landed on this for Voidstrike

Maintain DD is harder than my gun builds but the other two keystones would suck

[orchid ibex]

i thought it was a reddit urban legend but i actually got votekicked from a game 30 seconds in for using "smite." i'm using an ek staff and bb/kf.

[nocturne dust]

block them and move on

[orchid ibex]

lol yeah

[queen fog]

god forbid a psyker plays what they wanna play blitz wise

hate to see it man

[haughty star]

honestly i care less about smite

[orchid ibex]

lol yeah, but i wasn't even using smite. i've got bb and an ek staff

[haughty star]

dude wants to cream a room let em. there's always more. dude is bad with smite, just more shit for me to kill

[orchid ibex]

the whole thing was interesting

[queen fog]

even worse than i thought, they mistook the differently colored bio-lighting even tho u clearly had a staff out during it

that really is a head scratcher of a moment

[orchid ibex]

yeah, someone has some bad ptsd from those smite psyker games

[queen fog]

lol they got ptsd i got fond memories; infinite smite was really a rollercoaster

[orchid ibex]

yeah i have nothing against it but never actually use it, so i found it pretty funny. this was an auric game too, you'd think players in auric would know the difference between ek and smite.

[strong gulch]

Some player's don't the the difference.

[white river]

that extra one percent means the world

[orchid ibex]

truly blessed

[mint fern]

Hi guys, does anyone have a good build for a Psyker that mainly uses the left side? With the headburst thingy and stuff y'know

[nocturne dust]

Standard staff builds use the left side

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d5f5cb5-afee-4f51-9393-b8429e8c6765/

Here is such an example with purgatus

This is a pretty general build that will work with any staff

[strong gulch]

Purg / inferno use the WC (warp charge) build. #psyker-class message

Trauma / VoidBLAST #psyker-class message

[mint fern]

Thank you siblings

The emperor protects

[strong gulch]

Surge / electro / EK with KF is basically the same.

[pine shore]

What keystone should I get for purgatus assail shield build?

[prime elk]

warp siphon

[brazen rampart]

"Hey, sniper. Vibe check."

[normal matrix]

is scrier's good with smite?

[upper galleon]

Not really no

You really want creeping flames for the aoe damage and extending your channel time

[normal matrix]

fair enough

[jovial juniper]

Yes

Bit more boring though

While Shriek will set everything ablaze
Scrier's will give you small damage bonus plus keep you at max Warp Rider because of unbound

It'll give you 10% on activation

Then from activation to 100 it'll accumulate another 10

[nocturne dust]

Most of Scrier's benefits are kinda lost though

[jovial juniper]

Then the lingering effect will keep those 10

[raven mountain]

It doesn't help that Smite has no finesse damage, but it will benefit from the base damage, as well as the infinite peril post scrier's.

But at the end of the day, shriek is kinda the call if you intend on smite.

[jovial juniper]

It's aight smite can't crit anyways

[jagged quarry]

so what does soulblaze do ?

[raven mountain]

burn dot

[nocturne dust]

Smite doesn't need crit chance, suppression immunity, or finesse damage. It also generates lots of peril and makes it hard to stay in Scrier's long enough for the bonus to max out.

[jovial juniper]

Don't need to

[nocturne dust]

White flame DoT

[jagged quarry]

ok thanks

[raven mountain]

first couple stacks are weak, later stacks are strong.

[fiery stratus]

@strong gulch

[nocturne dust]

The damage bonus and extra stun time really isn't worth that much on smite

It's not a great combination

[raven mountain]

I think the best way to look at Scrier's+Smite is that you have infinite peril for 10s on demand, but you also get to play with the offensive side of scrier's and high peril when you aren't smiting.

Smite does benefit from scrier's in a small way, but it works better in a vacuum with shriek. But like all things, it's not really a vacuum unless all you're ever doing is smite.

[upper galleon]

Infinite peril for 10 seconds isn’t that impactful when shriek+BM can theoretically extend longer than that

I just dont see a reason to take it vs assail

Which is way easier to control and actually synergizes with the ability as a whole

[raven mountain]

Yeah, I like Assail way better. The main argument for pocketing Smite is general control vs general usability.

In a pinch, smite will save you. But assail is way more usable when you're mixing it in with your normal behaviors.

[nocturne dust]

That's not worth anything at all then, you don't need 10 seconds of infinite peril with smite. Swapping in and out of smite with controlled bursts is more useful in general.

[raven mountain]

Which you can do in that 10s window, regardless.

[nocturne dust]

Outside of funny infinite smite, Scrier's really isn't a great combo to use with smite.

[raven mountain]

You're completely washing over the actual point I made.

Good job.

[nocturne dust]

You didn't make a point though.

[raven mountain]

10s infinite peril + Getting to benefit from scrier's on your entire loadout.

I made 2 points.

You brushed off the less-important of them

[nocturne dust]

Your point is to take Scrier's to use with other stuff which means, congratz, Scrier's doesn't work great with smite

[raven mountain]

Smite+Scrier's has synergy. Fullstop, can't argue.

Smite has better synergy with Shriek. Definitely.

But builds are rarely 1-button.

If your only goal in life is to haha-funny-lightning, then yeah, scrier's bad.

But smite has good utility in a pinch. Scrier's has good damage. Scrier's allows for extra peril in a pinch as well as some damage boost (that you won't likely be using)

[nocturne dust]

The synergy smite + scrier's has is akin to smite + bubble

[jovial juniper]

Not really

[raven mountain]

Not at all

Wildly different synergy

[nocturne dust]

Smite won't stop snipers, bubble will

[jovial juniper]

Scrier's Smite actually kill stuff

[nocturne dust]

Synergy, 10/10, great combo

[raven mountain]

So will dodge, which you don't need to use an ability on, lol

great combo

See, I can make bad faith points as well.

[nocturne dust]

Dodging and Smite also has synergy, yes, according to your logic