#psyker-class
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How do people keep inserting Tanner into everything
the idea is that because most of psyker's interactions is ranged, and the very low delay of regen toughness means u can essentially be constantly regening toughness faster than shooters can lower it
Ability regen is kinda dookie
Just let the dude be weird and fade into irrelevance
because he is the one who popularized the ability regen cope
lit nobody talked about it until he did
Sounds cool if it work 
Obligatory why are you tanking shooters question
the other problem is that psyker has horrific base toughness nodes
so stacking toughness PERCENTAGE is not nearly as valuable as the other classes
people have been using ability regen forever
As long as you're not running stamina regen or sprint efficiency
Hey don't diss my marathon loadout
the only reason I dont get full toughness on the build however is because I am trying to hit the +200 hp breakpoint
which u can do with one main and 3 perks
YOU in #psyker-class slide.
I in #psyker-class overload and die.
We are not the same.
straight up slideing it
what i dont understand in the guide is the stamina curio tho
because psyker has such low delay, u can essentially slide forever without running out of any stamina
3stam is great on ds
KD also solves the blocking problem
KD peril gen scales with stam.
Kinda useless if you have say ER or Warp Unbound though for kd
It's a comfort pick unless you are doing PA spam on knife.
yes I am aware, but an entire curio node just to maybe get some block eff on KD doesn't sound worth
the guide says its for movement
which I disagree
use the guide only for mechanics
yeah
the guide does swear however on Toughness regen
Also question
I want to give it an honest try
Do you not take warp rider???
because I see the value, especially with stacking on other regen nodes
The small node above it is a 10% hp so you can drop two hp perks
I do feel like I need to take a stam curio on psyker
i can understand on gun psyker
I have a large complaint
On the voidstrike staff iff you have 5 stacks true aim and you rmb a ball but swap and the ball gets consumed by the swap you still lose true aim
yes, but if u go 1 hp it only reaches 196
and one perk
201 is cutting it, but again u might take chip damage
205
how frequently do you think these hp "breakpoint" scenarios occur, like once in a hundred games?
ur mom
Sometimes in sniper mode if you go down and get ressed
the point of curios is to save u from worst case scenarios
That's a terrible argument to make given that you take toughness regen speed
all the toughness in the world wont save u from a sniper or pox burster
no i think another bad scenario is being pinned down in a gunner fight
no EE 😔
no ds 😔
What if they made deflector for ds and instead of a shield you wave the sword around and parry the bullets think about it
Exactly
the other problem is how I mentioned that toughness percentage stacks worse because of the low base toughness
what is 10% toughness?
like 5 toughness in total?
why does psyker have no stats wtf
Cause Psyker has damage
u can stack all of the toughness nodes and max toughness percentage on main and perks, and I think you only get like 175 toughness
u put 1 main HP the 10% node and 1 perk and u get 205
from 150
btw to put it in perspective, Ogryn has a base 50 toughness
Well psyker deletes shit so there should be some downside lol
the downside is being a freak UwU
Errmmm what if they called it freaktide owo
I count that as an upside tbh
i fink u freeky
as someone who had a gunker take an ammo tin from me, I hate psykers UwU
That might’ve been me 
@nocturne dust look at this reee
immeasurable hatred >.>
lol, I had been dealing with that mess until a mutant grabbed me and I just kept being targeted 
i feel like the stuns should have gotten them
my keyboard is too tiny
Do you have a mouse with side buttons?
I put my jump on mouse 4
and just dodge on space
ye i should
Probably cause we have 20 different ways to near instantly Regen our toughness and giving us as much toughness as vet would make us nigh unkillable
isn't max psyker toughness like 24x
It's in the mid 200s iirc, yeah
Better to just not get hit anyway
Just don't lose, e z
I'm honestly still pretty noob, but I managed to get that untouchable or whatever it's called on a Heresy mission a few times now and that felt real good
Heresy
Nothing wrong with that.
Yeah I'm not insanely good at the game, by any means
I mean, untouchable only cares if you took health damage iirc
Yeah
I'm sure there is some cracked out 16 year old that could do it
do you have an alt key
i got untouchable on zealot
on hishock
i believe gloriana
I got untouchable on auric train
It doesn't matter much.
The hardest part is paying enough attention to the game that you don't get shadow-poxwalked
Urrrggghhhh i have to go to normal auric damnation for event guhhhh
I got my untouchable using melee knife stealth vet of all things
think thinkpad keyboard
and my fingers are big
mouse button is the best option]
1/7 chance to get a hi shock event map not so great
Do people really hate the lightning thrower psyker? I hardly see them as vet, but they are nice for the CC.
That's the problem
One of the problems
It's a strong tool with potential for damage
And every other psyker doesn't build it for damage
So they just lock enemies in place
Instead of locking and killing enemies
how do you build for damage?

God smite has such disgusting damage with fire shriek and empowered. Hit 1mil on 5 separate occasions with it
Absolutely disgusting
Just smite then Gaze
Hold the button then it should keep smite going past 100
There's also a third variation with Shriek and Warp Charges
For more shrieking
I have no idea what any of this means, and I’m too afraid to ask 
Welcome to psyker life
Shriek is the funny shout that can spread fire the more peril you have while also venting peril
Link to a build? What weapons do you use? Staff?
Well uh
Enjoy the engaging smite gameplay kek
Just remember to dodge
Yeah I'll link it to you when I get back to my pc
And keep a certain distance from your targets
I only play vet, so I have a lot to learn
Psyker has a lot of resource management
One of your greatest assets is also the one constantly threatening to blow your head off xP
Haha I bet
I have a crit build for laspistol and bolt pistol if you want those too. Also avoid the trauma staff while leveling up
It has really steep stat scaling, so a low level trauma staff is fucking terrible while a maxed one can be godlike if you learn how to use it
I guess it's called the voidblast staff now.....
🤮
They never should have changed the staff names
Don't listen to vet mains about anything psyker related
And keep in mind rule 1 of peril safety club is remember to have fun
Embrace the challenge 
Later in the skill tree, you get nodes that help with peril management.
it's like weakened monstrosities mode if it spawned full hp bobs each time
It uses the same mechanic but with longer timers. The timer has a wider range too, so more variance
Kid called scrier's gaze + crack of bone:
Which psyker says “my beloved” in the goofy voice and stuff like that?
I believe it's psyker 3? The one that sounds less grizzled.
How often do you use your actual arsenal as a smyker on auric maelstrom?
aside from killing long range gunners and isolated melee enemies
The entire time, since smite is not a weapon, it's a tool
It's a carry if you can keep it up
Shit's so good 😭
It's not a weapon but it does a fuckton of damage in the end. I find myself using it on every horde or crusher patrol
which is pretty much all the time
but should I? - idk
Opinions vary greatly on that matter
I only use it when my team can actually benefit from it ofc
In terms of usefulness and outright meta, probably. In terms of fun, many would disagree.
Depending on how I want to set it up, I often start with smite, build it up to ~85%, vent, then go about picking off targets as needed.
It's also juggling if you cant trust your team or not. If I see people are capable of handling crushers and whatnot. I will not use a lot of CC or CC just for little bit.
Without any of the peril reduction nodes, it's pretty quick to charge and burn, and if you need a longer chain, you do the old-school short-charge and release cycle.
And then when you can't trust your team and hold smite they still fail to kill the crushers and you have to let go 😭
I use that node that reduces peril and toughness gains
so I can hold smite forever
and vent quickly
Ye
I mean, if you have smited and vented, you should be able to just go poke the crushers to death pretty casually.
Knock down only 1 crusher with trauma and kill it. That was your one and move on. 
hold smite and just watch as a single nurgles blessing rager solos your team anyways
do they not get paralyzed?
Lets see what this new game modifier is all about
nurgles blessing gives the enemies stagger resistance
so they just end up walking through smite and hitting you
wait, reisstance or immunity?
I've never held smite long enough to know if it's complete immunity
i assume they're just immune
Green ones? They are immune

You need really high stagger to do it
I think green monstrosities cant be pushed at all
i have never tested this, but someone has mentioned in the past that it's like a -100% impact modifier, additive with other stuff, so you need some form of stagger buff to do anything.
I am not sure if this is true
But in theory it means can only stagger green things if you had impact or power/strength buffs, or do things that have a scripted stagger like push on dogs
i didnt even know green ragers were immune to smite
lmao
Certain abilities negate the stun immunity blessed enemies have like VoC on vet
anything nurgle blessed cant be staggerd
oh yeah voc too
So that's why I randomly get my ass beat while smiting
Nurggle blessed or not, enemies still creep up on you, haven't gotten caught yet, or walk in close right after catching enemies, so dodging is still needed.
smykers when they have to fight 2 green ragers (0% chance to survive)
Is the double Nurgle thing just for Gauntlets? We had three sets of double slugs in my last game.
just use duelling sword and stab head twice
ezpz
the event is causing more beasts to spawn
yeah that, and bosses too
smite isn't doing shit to that beast of nurgle
zap for a few hundred damage lol
block and pray someone kills them instead 
Out of all the quickplays I had today with the new modifier, I finally get a gauntlet version and it's just slugs all the way down.
thatll just get you puked on and eaten
I played one lastnight on throneside and we had i think 7-8 beasts
at least they're slow lol
I haven't had a chance to play new modifier yet
Yeah this was also on Baross, and they both chased me onto the bridge before we had even started clearing it
i heard enemies explode when shot now?
does the explosions do hp damage or toughness damage?
idk i havent tested it i melee too much
I think it does HP damage. It doesn't do much but I had one blow me off a ledge and it ignored the yellow bar.
oh damn
also soulblaze doesn't seem to trigger it, but BB/KF of course does
time for heavy stubber blasting the trash mobs while the randoms try to clear
kinetic flayer triggers it? That's hilarious
If SB doesn't trigger it, I wonder if bleed also doesn't.
It's also not triggering on staves? I noticed it wasn't triggering on purgatus or EK.
Maybe it only has a chance of exploding? 
If SB and bleed don't, I wonder is burn DOT from infurnus does. KF rules and whatnot.
wtf psyker favouritism
Oh interesting.
Nevermind on the DOT ponderings then.
At the very least, I never saw it trigger on soulblaze/Purgatus/EK, and did see it trigger on Kinetic Flayer 
Yeah, just looking at the clip, it barely does anything which is good considering it'd be a nightmare for melee. But I didn't even see what exploded beside me. Lights Out is horrible with this modifier. =/
Yeah my build is op on this
Bubble and purga
oh good the damage looks low
The mutations are pointless
The real modifier is the boss spam
Purg doesnt stun them either
I have to apply some soulblaze
Run away
Apply more
Repeat
But it does burn them 
Then they backstab you from like 10 metres away
Block while running 
@strong gulch you wanna squad up?
the mutated guys explode into nurgle vomit apparently
Purg primary definitely stuns ragers
green ragers...
Yeah I deserve it
Seer btw
I prefer him to loner’s crazy German scientist voice lol
[insert way too long maniacal laugh]
😭 I'm too ill to play tonight.
Thank you very much for asking. 
Ah, all good. I'm in this game for the long haul, so plenty of chances.
bois i have a question about when monsters got released
in the beta it was just the plague ogryn
and dh got added later when stuff like lights out got added
but when did the beast of nurgle / chaos spawn come out
were both at the full release or was that just poggy and bon
I don't understand the new modifier. It's just wiggly poxwalkers? The description says they explode, but do staves not pop that?
Chaos spawn came later
Can't remember when. Felt like a few months after launch
6 months later
ranged attacks against any mutated enemy explodes and spawns a burgle. p sure staves and blitzes count as ranged
source i found says april
sounds about right
they also explode into nurgle puke btw
Is it just a chance of doing it...? I ran through a quick MMT mission to see what it did, and I killed several hundred wiggly poxwalkers with voidstrike
Nothing happened
did you shoot them
EK & inferno*
I haven't tested the other 2
I just tested Voidstrike. Nothing happened when I shot them.
I'm gonna try it with a gun
new modiefier is riddled with bonbons other than that affects staffker not at all
void blast doesn't even blow up the new enemies lol
or lmb
Bonbons?
or soulflame lol
beast of nurgle
But is it only a chance of them spawning, or every time?
bon bons?
we just killed like 8 in one auric hi intensity dogs
not too mention the chaos, plogryn that spawned
Someone said that killing mutated enemies at range spawns them
Maybe, but if that's true it's definitely not certain
Because there would be a lot more bonbons in my pubs then
Would be funny, though. 200 bonbons all at once.
what staves do yall use for warp only psyker? i'm using assail/inferno/forcesword
Whatever feels best for you. I prefer Voidstrike/Illisi/Shriek
voidstrike felt strong when i last tried, i'll have to try again
All staves are good. I use surge (aka electro aka EK) the most. Trauma (voidBLAST) is my second favorite. Then purg (inferno).
what melee?
For me it's Voidstrike > Trauma > Purg > EK
peak
The mutated enemies don't even seem to explode 100% of the time
Because you have to hit their mutated part
Ah.
Interesting
This is not clear in the description. "These enemies explode when shot."
Heads are the most common reason because youll be aiming for those anyway
But arms are less likely
Im also not too sure what the arm hitbox is like
Prob just the original
Honestly the mutated enemies arent an issue and actually makes them easier to kill
Its the glubby spam
What hell. I just did a 20 minute long Auric Mutated Horrors and my team, in total, killed 336 lesser enemies
Do the wiggly guys not count for the scoreboard?
If they explode, does it count them?
yea getting mutated crushers and they just explode in 1 bolt pistol headshot it honestly seems even easier than normal enemies
what curious are best paired together
ive seen people say 1 is 21% curio?
whats the other 2
if the modifier didn't spam BoN it would be pox gas levels of easy imo
2x toughness or 1x toughness/1x stam
yea 1x stamina is very good on psyker because you have the lowest base stamina and the fastest regen
is a 410 +3 stamina good
yes that's the max stam you can get on a curio
when are the +3 stam curios actually +2 I don't remember
400

I’m level 10, when does smite start to do damage? 
Shiiiiiiet
yea empowered psionics required for it to do ok damage
So if I go past 100% peril but quell right away I won’t blow up right?
if you charge with right click, it'll stop before you overload
you hit 100, if you cause anymore peril you blow up
if you don't charge it, smite can cause you to overload
So charging is good? Or nah? 
naw left click smite all day
it's only good with right click
charge aint worth like 99% of the time

wait really?
you should charge
What is it? 
nvm i mean right click, i cant read
uncharged smite is just assail that does no damage
^
Ohhhhhh
Note: Specific things can kill you before 100, like the extended push (push attack) on the force sword
So charge to full, and then let the lightning rip?
yea brain burst will also kill you from 98% peril
And then I won’t die to POW?
yeah unless you do something else while at max peril
Blaze force sword push accumulates peril?
for smite you also want to cancel before it hits 100% peril because it will knock everything down only if you stop yourself
if it automatically stops no knockdown
The extended push
I don’t know what that is 
You have a normal push and the push attack which is the extended push
it's technically the push attack
My F ability?
The force sword has an extra push instead of a normal push attack
no left click while guarding
Ah
Didn’t notice it accumulating peril
It's a small amount but it will kill if you're close enough to max
But I only blew up 3 times last match 
It has no safeguard, lol
yea you'll notice eventually when you try to push a burster and blow up anyways lol
(It really should have a safeguard given all the other things that do)
For the new modifier, on enemy death to range they blow up? Or any range damage touching them?
You have to shoot their mutated part iirc
aka if you use a staff that can't hit weakpoints then you don't need to worry
I cant seem to get anyone to help me with this penance
any suggestions to do it on my own?
I dont think bots can even survive heresey really thats the main issue
Uh, just your number if you don't want to use mine (it's in my username, my account number)
you can also just wait until a heresy monster specials shows up on the normal board and ask teammates to let you kill one
ive never actualy done any social things on darktide so if u wanna give me your id that would be chill
But it says 'this can only be done in a private game'
The number in my username is my ID
oh woops
I can help too if you need
invited u @nocturne dust

@flint pawn that would be awesome actually
right
I'll bring gold tag vet to boost your damage too why not
aight. whats your id?
4053342565
I can bring book zealot 
aight invited
in
scoreboard means nothing, Jek carried 🫡
For taking my stupid max-defense build and getting not-barreled at one point, I did better than I thought I would 
that was fucking gold
i always wondered if u can look at stats after the game
lmao
It's a mod, 2 actually since they're using a mod for the mod 
oh... nvm 😦
is there a mod that probably changes cosmetics to look like cosmetics that shouldve been added to the game?
The perils of using melee within vet distance
I mean, there's a weapon customization mod but that's only for you, others won't see anything
melting all the burgles after the first was fun
but also damn stuff is so much frailer on heresy compared to damnation
nothing does any damage
Yeh, I was tempted to take my thammer zealot but I decided against it because the temptation would be too great
you should've
we could've had a boss killer competition
😔
after the first beast I mean
That would be the problem
Would've had a hard time holding back for the first beast
fair enough LOL
or you can try other boss killing methods for some fresh air
"Screw this guy in particular" 8 stacks Focus target + Krak/something boss killing stuffs vet
fire bullet Achlys
Hey does purgatus pop enemies in the new modifier
Doesn't seem to
I mean the AoE for the explosion isn't that large
the other staves don't either
Trauma pogging
anyone got a empowered assail build to use with electro staff? i'd use smite but im finding myself not really liking it as i use it
hey, for this penance it just means for the entire missions it expects you to of had max warp charges for 120 seconds. it doesnt expect you to have them for 120 seconds in a row right?
if my english is englishing right
The grammar doesn't suggest that it all has to be in a row, but I'm not sure about mechanically
uh, I actually don't know. It should be fairly simple on higher difficulties though, I definitely got that one without noticing. Just don't use your ability.
Using your ability uses all your warp stacks
Brainburst is blitz, Ability is Shriek/Bubble/Scrier's
Right right right
Damn thanks for telling me
I completely overlooked that and would probably sit here for hours wondering why I didnt finish the penance
One of the node allows for allies' kill on any enemy has 4% giving you a stack, which makes that penance very easy.
You can run an auric mission, a single enemy ambush should be more than enough for it.
is by crack of bone a good grab for a scriers gun build?
Eh. It's okay with Illisi, extends Scrier's a bit. Not a necessity.
very worthwhile if you're using rashad, otherwise eh
What does Voidstrike run, Surge Nexus Flak Cara?
yeah thats how my voidstrike is
Also, a general build idea would be nice (keystone really)
the build i was given is dd but i also use melee a lot
what i'd run personally for void
Gaze would be interesting
if you wanna assail EP spam you can do this instead
fair enough
and scriers voidstrike is funny
if you dont want to use the movement speed can just swap warp speed for endurance
Why wouldn't I want too
idk soykers are weird
Its silly as hell how fast scriers psyker goes
my voidstrike build uses a mk3
Oh fuck warp splitting
Forgot about that for a sec
Yeah right tree is best for this
Something like this w/deimos
id go quietude over warp expenditure and thats about it
you have good TDR from one with the warp + the node
I thought expeniture would work better with the nature of scriers
T&A time
Or not nevermind
the real soyker mains know the numbers on why expenditure is so ass compared to quietude
I just know its ass from them by proxy
Realized I had an extraneous traversal node
so you have 1 free point then right
I already respent it on assail cleave
oh
you can drop that
(if you want)
warp splitting does the cleaving for you on assail
Womp womp, already closed the game
Hey
spawn a monstrosity and use charged strike on it once, see how many ticks it'll take
If my info is correct it'll take one tick
Too late
I'm never too late
Never too late starts playing
lmao wth gunker is crazy as hell now with all these new perks
well it's always been crazy but fucking hell lol. warp unbound with assail was just the cherry on top
and warp splitting at full proc for every dart

anyone down to help me with this? ik its kinda late but seeing who might still be around 0_0
YELL?
LIKE THIS>
im kidding. but actualy I just cant maintain it for the 120 seconds cosnecutively
People either steal my kills, the encounter ends, we die, or we reach an elevator
or no enemies spawn
its rlly aANOYING
caps*
go to a higher difficulty
you play on auric damn and haven't actually just gotten that natively?
oh lol
if you're playing damnation it should be like five or six missions lol
but yeah i feel
its such an inconvenient penance
it'll come. my advice is use a surge build and just never use your shriek in a high intensity area lol. (electrokinetic staff used to be surge) but i also don't recommend using staves before 30 because they're dogshit but idk with this new mastery system they got
fml why does it have to be consecutive seconds
this penance used to be 300 seconds
imagine that like honestly
but also brain burst would give u stacks on any kill. not just paeacilist kill
speacalist
i got it without ever trying for it lol so idk
maybe focus on catching disablers with BB
I just cant. cuz either the veteran or zealot comes in last second just to kill off what i was gonna kill
eh once you get to auric you'll be killing enough stuff to maintain with the 8 percent as it is
but the right click pre charge takes longer than the normal one
and if u have to move it just goes away
you can hold the precharge
and just click when you aquire target
the other fairly easy route would be to do purgatus
and grab the node that gives WC on burn
and just forget you have a ability for one high intensity sesh
like 2 minutes is much less time than trainyard or any of those high volume hold your ground style rooms
you can start finding disablers when they spawn in
they always have the sound cue 80% of the time when they spawned
im... confused as shit
i appreciate the tips
but idk how i just got it cuz i just joined a game
Its weird cuz I went 2 missions not using my abilities and stuff to maintain stacks for as long as possible
but now i just joined an ongoing match and got the penance?
after like a m inute

thats how im feeling rn ^
In fire reborn can help with keeping it put all you need is bb equipped
Try use it the purg staff
no i just got it its fine
im just confused cuz people online were syaing different things
is it or is it not consecutive seconds?
It is consecutive seconds
And if I'm not wrong it only counts 4 stacks as max, so if you take the plus 2 to stacks if you have 2 stacks that you can have decay
If that makes sense
really? cuz i also read online that the 2 extra staks dont matter
but i also heard it does
so idk!
Understand it like this. 4 stacks is what is needed to be maintained, if you have 6 as your max you can have 2 stacks decay while you find another target
Yes
Yes 
Pretty sure that at least previously it didn't work like that, it was your max (4 or 6)
Surge, nexus, Flak, Crit Chance/Maniac/Cara
You can use either Scrier's or Shriek, but generally you want to take DD as a keystone, and without ability cooldown I find Scrier's to just function better generally.
This is what I personally go with, but it depends on how unhinged you want to be. ER isn't necessarily worth the dip in this case.
Wait why extra dodge over EE
It's my preference 🤷♂️
EE isn't super helpful with how slow Voidstrike charges imo, so it's kinda a toss-up
and +1 dodge on staves saves my bacon
I guess
I’d still take it over +1 dodge tho, cuz u can have assail crits vs shooters and it helps
Or staff m1 occasionally
I mean, yes but you really shouldn't be using staff m1 on voidstrike except for very few instances where EE won't really help anyway
and assail is whatever. Yeah, you can use it, but you'll notice I dumped both of Assail's nodes. It's for scattered shooters, which are more an annoyance than a threat.
because Voidstrike does everything else
No Soulblaze is kinda interesting
Soulblaze would be helpful but PC alone is eh considering what I'd be trading away, either toughness or warp splitting/ER/warp unbound. All the edge nodes are super useful. It's a tight build.
What melee do u run with this
Cuz I got a feeling you’re running smth like a Rashad
Or a knife
Generally, you can run whatever you like. Both horde clear and single target melees have their uses, it just depends which you fear more, getting caught in an open field or getting stuck trying to wail on a bonbon's face
Knife is a good pick since you can reposition for voidstrike shenanigans
Honestly is still run bubble with this setup
Also I need more loadout slots 😭
Warp unbound is cool and all but i really dont need scriers dmg boost
Scrier's with Surge lets me clear basically anything as long as it's down a hallway
Still dont trust the node working or not lmao
It only fails at one specific moment when Scrier's ends
Wait i thought this was with void
Ignore me then
surge the blessing, not surge the staff
Fs and their names...
Altough ngl void clears hallways all the same
Main reason i have bubble is for open spaces
And protecting the team rather than myself
Before i mostly used it for the toughness regen but its cd got nerfed really hard so you cant spam it as much
Even with cd on special kill
I mean, not really the same. Like, the best way I can put it is that Scrier's lets me not full-charge and clear, even in open fields, under the right conditions (the right conditions being the enemies are far enough away that they can't interrupt me)
(and also that they're still in a general area, if they're spread out enough voidstrike with scrier's will still have problems of course)
I know, i also halfcharge, but care more about control than instakilling
If needed i can always fullcharge and oneshot anyway
Voidstrike isn't really the control staff. It does that the worst out of any staff imo.
Meant that it will usually knock enemies down if it doesnt kill
True
Just aim at blue man
That's honestly the part I hate most about voidstrike, I don't want to aim at blue man
I want to kill the big thing that's much closer and much more in the way 😭
I just assail autoaim the blue man 
The one time assail frustrates me is when I throw a bunch of shards and turn away only to have the shards follow my turn
well that and when it just disappears because armor exists

But fire and forget is my favorite method of heretic solution
how about we do psyking
May I introduce you to the literal fire and forget staff, Coruscation?
Fatshark plz
Thats just blaze trauma
voidstrike is an inbetween of fireball and bolt
Is there any viable soulblaze build for damnation?
Ye wheres my void trauma
but yeah blaze trauma and the forbidden pasta are on the same level of not fun
even though trauma is based on conflag
blazing spirit turns it into coru
What if Shards don't disappear when hitting armour?
That's the meta build
so yes
Ngl for a moment he looked like a mid-age Johnny Somali
that name makes me laugh
who hurt you
the forbidden pasta torching every rat so the rest of the team doesn't get to play
Not fun for everyone else lmao
Just git gud
smh my head
lookie here infinite cleave death vortex that kills everything
What's forbidden pasta?
coruscatoni
That... just further confuses me
Bring back old corus 
Vermintide 2 coruscation staff?
That would be neat, but we're not Eldari
Ah yes let me spawn a pox tree
We are Psykers still
arguably blaze trauma is worse by virtue of not requiring you to melee ever
i want voidstrike to be the best there ever was (i am so tired of zap)
Comes with the scans that no one knows how to do
I want a staff that does another form of element
coruscatoni at least required you to build thp for the degeneracy
i need a bb staff that does a better bb.
Haven't you heard tho? Voidstrike is the best staff. I know because people here said so, and said EK sucks, and I believe them because nobody would be wrong on the internet. 
EK literally crying rn
How do i make it then?
KD being a crutch is also true tho 
needing kinedick dicksucktion is for people who use sticks in combat
Talents are a crutch
Embrace talentless runs

Do you just spam flame then use f and keep going?
Pretty much, use rmb until rager, then lmb, then rmb
press F when above 85% peril and off cooldown
e z
what is ek
not with purg
You know what it is. 
this wizard forgot to learn the shield spell
yes with purg?
Thanks for the build
Also is soulblaze the build the same as a bb build or are they different?
purg you wanna f at around 30ish percent bc that gets everything to 16 stacks and theyll just die
shield is for people who don't have their enemies staggered and on fire and like to protect veterans
Suggestions
Timesflux Staff
- Expanding aoe on charge
- Timelocks enemy units
- Stronger enemies have shorter timelock period
Cryokinesis Staff
- Cone-shaped aoe like Purgatus
- Slows down enemies
Force Javelin
- Thrown psychic spear dealing high damage
- Recharges over time
waiting to get to 85 is useless
No, they are different. You can combine them I guess, and some people do that, but BB really isn't worth investing in. It kind of sucks.
fors jabelin yes
N-no? What?
f faster to get 16 stacks and boom

whole map gone
i'm not talking about bubble
kd is for people who take their melee out
purg is whatever
for gunker vraks or recon lasgun does more damage
try it
which is dps loss which is ego loss
Good to know and what about assail and smite? Are they any good?
They're both useful in their own ways, though smite you can get a specific OP build with.
I do miss Kerillians Javelin, so fun
You won't.
Purgatus stacks to 15, 16 on a crit. Vent at 30% doesn't do much.
i dont miss kerillian javelins in my ass
javelins can rot in hell
I love javelins 
Would you be able to find that build and maybe one you'd recommend for assail?
yeah that checks out
I always throw Javelins right next to my friends head hehehe
It's because I'm cool and skilled, right?
vraks spammers are good against bosses because vraks has a high weakpoint damage, so i've heard. no clue if any of that is true, because gunking stains the soul
no it's because you're a melee denier that wants to shoot everything
recon is recon
I'm not a melee denier
I like melee
on zealot
on vet
on ogryn
filth

What about RANGED MELEE
That's my favorite kind of melee
momefic momemtum + illisi = big sex
you have the unique opportunity to play around with spellstrike and magic swords and you just decide to sit back and cast
shameful
Is force sword even any good?
@upper sun was there
Deimos and Illisi, very yes. Obscurus no.
I see you CAST BULLET as well
Sadly 😔
illisi is great, deimos is a worse ds4, still very good, obscurus is bi curious and shunned
How are they good
If they buff Obscurus charge attack more then maybe it will be good
I think i tried illisi but duelling sword seemed stronger
Deimos worse ds4 is a take
different purpose
more stacks faster = more dead faster
How so
illisi is an allrounder and ds4 is a dedicated elite/bosskiller
Yeah Agent has bad takes too. Also, to point out, Shriek at 30% is not doing much for stacks, Agent literally says it's for stagger
You only get 6 stacks at 85% bruh
It's not faster
purg shriek is awkward because purg builds no peril
and it's not more stacks
agony
also tahts just a screenshot i found without much looking
i don't, and it still builds no peril
???
weve talked about it more in vc
I have no trouble shrieking off cooldown without ER
What's ER again? Is that the one that reduces Peril gen?
empyric resolve, yes
i mean all you literally have to do is try it and youd feel the difference immediately
it is my take and i stand by my penis sword, but ds4 doesn't suffer from delayed penetration
I have tried it, it's only useful for stagger
and at that point
just take shield
Shield 
im not a support player sorry
i dont like shield in any circumstance lol
shield users are for people who like their teammates
Sounds like a skill issue
i want train mael thatd be fun

oh no my teammate is down and there are 10 snipers on overwatch
Is it possible to dodge a Sniper by just crouching?
if only i had a spherical bullet deflection apparatus
Yes iirc
his bad for getting downed
probably
deflector should be built into force swords baseline
but i prefer to not be support
in a game where its useless
and just slows everything down
Imagine if you can bounce their shots back
It's not support, I use shield to my advantage. Keeping my team alive means more time for the meatshields to exist. 
why project force barrier with hand but only block melee with it? insane behaviour
if everyhtings dead
Bullet Parry when 
press f take, respected
Yeah but you ain't doing that with shrieking at 30% 
Cue to progamer moves of reflecting Sniper shots into bosses
who's at 30% shreking
Tren says purg should shriek at 30%. They're also a dirty purg hater anyway tho, so 
🙋♂️
i dont use fart staff so i have no opinion, fart staff annoying and lukewarm
jedi mindset
still OP bc all staffs are
Just turn off bloom and you won't be blinded. Bloom is dumb anyway.
What are guns if not Mechanical Staffs?
why would i use stupid cogs and springs when i can use brain damage
exactly
I want drain bamage too
cordless hole puncher
if team* is bad
i like the power fantasy of having an overcharged taser
lol
If ya'll stopped sucking so much maybe I would have problems with purg too
but that is not the case.

Of Atlas stealing all my warpfire? 😭
burger SUCKS because it is a nonranged ranged weapon
i mean
stupid and smelly (and also stupid)
it takes effort to get less kills with purg than with someone with surge
That's the best part 
Don't you like melee?
Now you can have 2 melee.
Is it me or is Voidstrike Force staff kinda bad atm?
It's not.
just you
If you're levelling, level some more.
In a good team.
In a bad team, purg takes a lot less effort.
It's in a good spot, just needs some work before you see its strength
it ok, but nothing spectacular. needs a specific buildpath to shine, and to shine harder (only using voidstrike stupid usecase) an even more specific buildpath
I don't really get it. On my Thunderhammer Zealot I can spam heavy attack for hordes / CC, then charge up and dispatch any group of Elites like dominoes. On Psyker, with Voidstrike Force staff, everything takes forever to kill even at high peril with crits
Is there a link to this build?
used to fuck way harder because of tru ame
And I like having a staff that goes crazier the worse your allies perform. 
disrupt destiny
Thanks
Voidstrike needing DD is dumb
avoid perfectionism, don't use the middle talent, edge 90%. if you have brain damage like i do, use it with scrier's + warp splitting
just hold w
I'm not sure what you mean.
everyone's talking about lmb surge cancer, but they don't know lmb purg cancer
than die holding s
favorite big cancering
i dont even get lmb surge
its actively worse
especially if you cant aim
Its TTK on a lot of things is better than RMB surge at first glance
it stops mutant trains if you aim head-level with lmb qcancer
its also overly reliant on smite which is really my biggest gripe with it too
If all you ever fought was single enemies, and only non-ogryns/bosses at that, lmb generally wins without quell cancelling
point is you need to be consistent with headshots and i need 400mg caffeine to do so
LMB surge? Not really? Why do you think it relies on smite? 
if you are - it's turbo oppressive
have you ever seen anyone play it
theyre just using smite like 90% of the time
I've played it.
You don't need smite on lmb spam.
i watcheed that one guy
why would you smite on lmb spam when spam
Then they're a smiteker, so?
Pygex specifically combines lmb spam with EP smite
You don't need to do that, lol.
pygex makes the point of it being very aggressively generalist (and EP is turbo cancer)
Yeah, Pygex just wanted to show off the turbo cancer combined with turbo cancer
i like to do one thing, not do all thing. (except for voidstik, i want it to be the best thing ever at everything)
Hey wait a minute
EPy
excpt that one weird guy
I was promised leaderboard pics
i forgot his name

old dude
who
i have to update the game
so it wasnt worth it

