Most of the contracts are very easy, aside from grimoires
#psyker-class
kindred flint
But they take a lot of runs if you get bad pubs right?
static needle
But they take a lot of runs if you get bad pubs right?
not necessarily, you dont lose progress on contracts if u wipe
kindred flint
Along with the deaths one
exotic crane
you have a whole week to complete them
pulsar hazel
Grims are so awful since two grims is enough to 1 wound most classes lmao
static needle
Along with the deaths one
dont do those unless you are 100% certain everyone will survive
kindred flint
Understood.
clear heath
i reroll no player deaths unless it's a very low number
static needle
i reroll no player deaths unless it's a very low number
yeah like, 1 without deaths is a maybe
pulsar hazel
i reroll no player deaths unless it's a very low number
I had one with 1 mission of no player deaths and I completed it before the 8 mission weekly
hazy moss
whats the dumpstat on the voidblast staff? warp resist?
pulsar hazel
This week
static needle
I had one with 1 mission of no player deaths and I completed it before the 8 mis...
luck
hazy moss
yo guys whats the dumpstat on the voidblast staff? warp resist?
dusk void
yo guys whats the dumpstat on the voidblast staff? warp resist?
It’s typically warp resistance, but I tend to dump quell speed because of the solidity node and quell cancel
hazy moss
It’s typically warp resistance, but I tend to dump quell speed because of the so...
whats quell cancel?
dusk void
whats quell cancel?
My bad, I worded that wrong. Sliding and quelling until peril goes down to 0
But with the Empyric Resolve node, Warp Resistance is the typical dump stat
nocturne dust
yo guys whats the dumpstat on the voidblast staff? warp resist?
warp resist
It's warp resist with or without Empyric Resolve, warp resist just doesn't do much
zinc phoenix
Along with the deaths one
You can swap that one out for free
And you should, keeping all the pubs alive even on heresy is challenge level impossible
They’re just too goddamn stupid
twin halo
Hey, for inferno staff do you guys prefer the BB build or the general (left tree) build?
kindred flint
You can swap that one out for free
Right!
Too bad I swapped one of the no one dies ones last night lol
zinc phoenix
Too bad I swapped one of the no one dies ones last night lol
You can pay a very nominal fee in the play money to change others
kindred flint
You can pay a very nominal fee in the play money to change others
True but currently saving for an outfit so 🤣
obtuse lake
guys, what is the best combo/loadout to do the penance Perilous Focus ?
jovial juniper
Agripina Infantry Auto Gun
Recon 14 with deathspitter
Manstopper Double Barrel (?)
Agripina Braced auto gun
With Deathspitter and Warp Splitting
Or Brutal Rashad
Deathblow Heavy Sword
Forgot that crack was a thing
obtuse lake
you have a build somewhere where i can take a look
nocturne dust
Hey, for inferno staff do you guys prefer the BB build or the general (left tree...
...yes?
jovial juniper
you have a build somewhere where i can take a look
Basic stuff
Pick the red circle for ranged
The yellow circle for melee
Or both
obtuse lake
thanks brother
jovial juniper
Hmm
Idk why I picked the assail modifier
obtuse lake
it's fine lol
usually this goes with brain burst but assail is good with SG
i rly wanna do that goofy penance so i max out the penances on psyker
clear heath
Hey, for inferno staff do you guys prefer the BB build or the general (left tree...
...
isn't BB on the left anyways?
anyways i just take bb and almost never use it
basically just using it for the occasional sniper or bomber
ornate hamlet
Does anyone else hear those voices?
nocturne dust
Does anyone else hear those voices?
Report to your nearest commissar for brain cleansing.
strong gulch
Hey, for inferno staff do you guys prefer the BB build or the general (left tree...
I prefer the general left side of the tree for purg / inferno. That's the build with purg as the main focus. KR EP BB can be nice, but BB doesn't do much in a competent team; in that case you fall back more on purg even though it's an EP BB build.
Especially with purg's buffs, I just invest more into the staff. Here's both builds just in case.
On the EP BB build, you could drop soulstrealer and commit even harder to BB with the +5% ranged damage node. 
No meaningful break points, but boss damage.
drifting elk
what perks for dclaw on this class?
summer prairie
KF was around 7% of my damage in a melee maelstorm with trauma by the way
clear heath
higher than i would've expected
I like kf on trauma. Always feels like it procs on exactly what i want
split lance
KF was around 7% of my damage in a melee maelstorm with trauma by the way
Click more
obtuse lake
ok so what does this penance exactly needs? Perilous Focus
twin halo
I prefer the general left side of the tree for purg / inferno. That's the build ...
Thank you! I was using your builds as reference points, I just lack game knowledge to know which one's better. Cheers!
strong gulch
1-10 how unlucky I am?
This is a lot of people. It's one of those "I wasn't even trying to get this." or "I am never getting this." penances. People get stuck on 35 - 39 a lot. lmao
prime elk
1-10 how unlucky I am?
I randomly got mine while playing my bonker build
obtuse lake
This is a lot of people. It's one of those "I wasn't even trying to get this." o...
ikr? I am trying like a motherfucker to complete this penance on Auric but holy crap
prime elk
It was surprisingly easy
obtuse lake
drop build or never happened 😏
prime elk
Just happened naturally when I was having pox walkers shoved up my ass
obtuse lake
LOL
clear heath
magdump gunpsyker a few times into a horde
obtuse lake
I am just waiting for a big horde, popping off the buff and spraying xd
prime elk
magdump gunpsyker a few times into a horde
That might be even easier
obtuse lake
magdump gunpsyker a few times into a horde
what wep u think is the best for it
vranks mk v?
prime elk
I was doing Rashad and the quell on weak spot melee kill
clear heath
idk probably vraks iag
clear heath
if you literally only care about getting the penance, maybe you could make it easier by making a gimmicky peril resist build to make scriers easier to maintain
prime elk
If you’re trying it on gunker
strong gulch
Thank you! I was using your builds as reference points, I just lack game knowled...
You can try both to see what you like. On the warp charge purg build, you can blast a boss with with purg, shriek at 85% peril to apply 6 more SB (soulblaze) stacks, then melee the boss with a single target weapon (DS, deimos, knife) with unyielding and uncanny strikes. Switch back every 7 seconds or so to reapply at least one stack of SB to keep all of your stacks from decaying. That's how you bump boss DPS on a standard purg build.
Purg has a cap of 15 (16 if the last app is a crit) tho.
prime elk
i have VIc las
You could just convert it into an XIV
prime elk
So it has cleave
obtuse lake
actually fuck it
prime elk
Wait why?
obtuse lake
imma lvl it up
prime elk
Oh
obtuse lake
and convert it
twin halo
You can try both to see what you like. On the warp charge purg build, you can bl...
Gotcha, thanks a lot!
obtuse lake
it's like 30 weps no problem
prime elk
Well you could try it with your current mark
clear heath
I prefer the general left side of the tree for purg / inferno. That's the build ...
I think I've had both of these exact builds at some point
prime elk
It’s not the end of the world
obtuse lake
np i got 3m
late sapphire
1-10 how unlucky I am?
i feel like if you take by crack of bone and empyric resolve you can just upkeep sg for like three minutes and get the kills
obtuse lake
WTF
late sapphire
same with the other new -peril on ranged headshot node
strong gulch
I think I've had both of these exact builds at some point
Ye. Pretty standard.
late sapphire
It's definitely a fairly easy penance to get
strong gulch
It would be funny if you get it while levling the weapon.
late sapphire
Or rather back when most of us here got it it was maybe 2x harder to get
The only issue is getting the 40+ groaners somewhere, could just use the many more try mod to solo mode...
obtuse lake
It would be funny if you get it while levling the weapon.
no i am just sacrificing weapons
strong gulch
Oh gotcha
prime elk
i feel like if you take by crack of bone and empyric resolve you can just upkeep...
Exactly what I did lol
obtuse lake
well mostly i'm playing ranged so crack of bone is kinda useless for me
prime elk
Time to learn how to melee sibling 
proper osprey
Melee psyker is cool
I like the illis or devils claw
And of course ds
Or knife
Melee pysker is underrated
prime elk
Rashad psyker
ashen trellis
this should trigger on a right click with surge staff right?
strong gulch
maniac and crit?
flak + crit chance / maniac. Standard blessing are surge + nexus.
For the penance, BM (battle meditation) and ER (empyric resolve) will be important to take with SG.
Try to find areas that aren't open. Hallways will be your friend.
Spawn or horde drop down points can also be useful.
obtuse lake
we talking about recon lasgun mk xiv right?
strong gulch
we talking about recon lasgun mk xiv right?
voidstrike
obtuse lake
OOOOF
strong gulch
I thought that's what was being talked about for some reason lol.
TTS will keep peril down A LOT.
strong gulch
Infurnus and dumdum for blessings and I personally do maniac + unyielding for perks but flaniak is probably better.
strong gulch
swap sustained to infurnus. that will increase your dps
obtuse lake
time to test it
hm i do like 0 dmg with recon lasgun
ggz
now time to do zealot's penances
strong gulch
now time to do zealot's penances
Nice. Congrats.
obtuse lake
damn zealot's penances are hard af XD
strong gulch
hm i do like 0 dmg with recon lasgun
Recons need SG and true aim to boost the crit chance and hits to proc its crit strings and stack infurnus (also dumdum because ofc).
strong gulch
However did it, it works.
obtuse lake
indeed
zinc phoenix
Rashad psyker <:whatthefuck_heresy:1049724444207239168>
no lie its actually really good
bromentum with warp splitting goes hard
ripe obsidian
Oh no. I was the asshole blowing up bursters on my teammates last match. I didn't intend to, but still
cosmic knot
Anyone who can help with the "Perilous Focus" penance?
ripe obsidian
https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1046914150363844779/130220424701...
Approximately, yes. And my chat was broken so I couldn't even apologize. D:
ashen trellis
so I'm running this Surge Staff build with Kinetic Flayer, Warp Siphon and VS and while my team is doing fine I'm absolutely pumping the damage and usually have the highest stats on almost all the fields, but once 1 single thing goes wrong I genuinely can't recover from it, like if I get isolated I feel like I have no way out, apart from gitting gud are there any useful guidelines on how to improve clutch potential as a Psyker?
using mkV blaze as melee
strong gulch
Anyone who can help with the "Perilous Focus" penance?
Can be don't with with melee, guns, or staves (voidstrike, purg / inferno, and maybe LMB builds). Take BM (battle meditation), ER (empyric resolve), and by crack of bone (for melee) or tranquility through slaughter (for guns).
Transfer peril on voidstrike will further help with peril management, though with ER, IDK if that's needed.
Hallways and chokepoints are your friend.
ashen trellis
so I'm running this Surge Staff build with Kinetic Flayer, Warp Siphon and VS a...
only in auric maelstorm, forgot to mention
nocturne dust
so I'm running this Surge Staff build with Kinetic Flayer, Warp Siphon and VS a...
Welcome to Psyker
ripe obsidian
so I'm running this Surge Staff build with Kinetic Flayer, Warp Siphon and VS a...
Positioning sounds like the answer here. Keep your back to a wall where possible, be aware of exits. Don't be afraid of running in circles to buy time.
nocturne dust
cosmic knot
Can be don't with with melee, guns, or staves (voidstrike, purg / inferno, and m...
Thx Potato, I am using those, it's more that public games with randoms are no help, I feel like i would need a private game for this where teammates are willing to hold back for me...
ashen trellis
Positioning sounds like the answer here. Keep your back to a wall where possible...
yeah fixed my positioning a lot, but I'm talking about instances when my team fucks up, I just can't recover when a teammate gets downed and another is trapped
strong gulch
so I'm running this Surge Staff build with Kinetic Flayer, Warp Siphon and VS a...
Keeping your head on a swivel and positioning help a lot. Illisi can push its way through a horde. If you need to drop KF for a single point in smite to just make things stop for moment, do it.
strong gulch
Thx Potato, I am using those, it's more that public games with randoms are no he...
A horde will find you eventually.
You ca try to say you are going for a penance at the beginning of a match and what's needed for it.
nocturne dust
Psyker has the hardest time clutching, and the hardest time recovering from a cascade of failures imo. There aren't many options other than using smite and just getting good at positioning and awareness.
strong gulch
A lot of times teamates understand.
Yielding ground is helpful. Holding the line and not kiting things can be a death sentence.
strong gulch
Knowing where things drop from and spawn points help a lot.
radiant frigate
Yielding ground is helpful. Holding the line and not kiting things can be a deat...
never yield ground unless it is a crusher pack or larger threat (or the floor is lava)
take everything
strong gulch
Baiting enemy AI and what not.
ripe obsidian
This is unrelated to Darktide or Psyking, but I got a pretty significant certification in my field and I don't have many people to share it with. So I am foisting it on you.
strong gulch
take everything
take their eyes
radiant frigate
This is unrelated to Darktide or Psyking, but I got a pretty significant certifi...
the psyker hivemend approves this message
ripe obsidian
Thank you
radiant frigate
take their eyes
strong gulch
This is unrelated to Darktide or Psyking, but I got a pretty significant certifi...
Congrats!! I remember you mentioning something. Or I'm remembering a completely different person lol.
Either way 🎉
cosmic knot
Highest I've managed to reach for the penance is 38/40, guess i jsut have bad luck in that most of the time when i communicate what penances I'm doing, most pubs don't care ^-^;
Also GZ six
ripe obsidian
I might have mentioned something. This was pending for 2+ months while the board reviewed my application
radiant frigate
Highest I've managed to reach for the penance is 38/40, guess i jsut have bad lu...
the "kill 40 things in one sg" thingy?
strong gulch
Highest I've managed to reach for the penance is 38/40, guess i jsut have bad lu...
being stuck at 38 is common
cosmic knot
Yep
broken carbon
Psyker has the hardest time clutching, and the hardest time recovering from a ca...
my most impressive clutch was actually on psyker
radiant frigate
i recommend getting a slaughterer illisi, peril reduction mod and pressing f and then m1 (furiously) at the sight of a sizable horde
radiant frigate
by crack of bone will make this really easy
broken carbon
(pre unlocked and loaded)
strong gulch
It's easier to get now with the new quelling talents at least.
radiant frigate
It's easier to get now with the new quelling talents at least.
yes very true
TTS can do much the same
magdump ferociously if you are so inclined
i am not but to each their own
upper sun
This is unrelated to Darktide or Psyking, but I got a pretty significant certifi...
do my omnet homework pls
strong gulch
ER too
radiant frigate
(i will still look at you funny if you're a bolter zealot with 3x more ranged than melee damage though)
ripe obsidian
do my omnet homework pls
I'm a network engineer, not software. I can do some Python scripting, but that's about it.
upper sun
😭 damn i have to READ now
broken carbon
(i will still look at you funny if you're a bolter zealot with 3x more ranged th...
@latent mauve
cosmic knot
I can see why using the quelling blessing on a force sword would be useful, but why slaughterer specifically?
verbal thistle
(i will still look at you funny if you're a bolter zealot with 3x more ranged th...
ripe obsidian
I've honestly not even heard of Omnet before now.
latent mauve
broken carbon
I can see why using the quelling blessing on a force sword would be useful, but ...
helps with horde clear most
an extra 40% power
radiant frigate
<@1273699265243381802>
is that actually dorn's advice
broken carbon
is vv good
broken carbon
is that actually dorn's advice
no but he runs out of ammo on zealot consistently so
he SUCKS
radiant frigate
40% more damage and 40% more cleave and 40% more stagger
broken carbon
worst player EVER
radiant frigate
running out of ammo? SHAMEFUL
latent mauve
meow stinks
radiant frigate
conserve your resources right NOW ⚡
broken carbon
conserve your resources right NOW ⚡
this is dangerous
latent mauve
getting around to dealing with my hud
broken carbon
getting around to dealing with my hud
i don’t think i’ll ever bother with it tbh
ripe obsidian
getting around to dealing with my hud
You have many levels.
strong gulch
(i will still look at you funny if you're a bolter zealot with 3x more ranged th...
When you somehow out melee the zealot with no keystone blazing spirit illisi.
radiant frigate
When you somehow out melee the zealot with no keystone blazing spirit illisi. <:...
blazing spirit? now we're cooking
broken carbon
getting around to dealing with my hud
i find it very funny that u have 4x my levels yet we’re both about the same skill
what speedrunning does to a mfer
latent mauve
dockies
verbal thistle
i find it very funny that u have 4x my levels yet we’re both about the same skil...
he speedruns
broken carbon
yeah i know
broken carbon
is this the grub server
verbal thistle
ye
broken carbon
lmfao
latent mauve
it was literally an arc in zealot chat ainz
broken carbon
i have my super grub server that nobody ever will be invited to
most important grubs only
(it’s never used)
mossy oyster
no one cares grub lord
late sapphire
so I'm running this Surge Staff build with Kinetic Flayer, Warp Siphon and VS a...
For clutches, run fast and then wear down the horde. Stability is the most important. Once everyone else is dead, spawn rates reduce massively
broken carbon
no one cares grub lord
erm that’s grub lady to u
mossy oyster
shart lady
mossy oyster
id hate to see what you meant to send
broken carbon
if i type that out i will get screenshotted
mossy oyster
dm it how cringe is it
exotic crane
I have been convered to smyker
it's so op, holy shit
everything just stands still while my team kills them leisurely
And still doing good damage
bitter grove
Never go to Hab Dreyko, worst mistake of my life
ashen trellis
For clutches, run fast and then wear down the horde. Stability is the most impor...
it's usually the already existing horde that eventually kills me when my team is downed, that's the problem
doesn't help that I suck at melee apparently too lol
fiery stratus
Anyone wanna squad up? I keep getting people I have to carry in LFG, so I may as well QP
ripe obsidian
it's usually the already existing horde that eventually kills me when my team is...
Surge staff doesn't do much for hordes. You're using Illisi but dying to hordes? What blessings?
ashen trellis
Surge staff doesn't do much for hordes. You're using Illisi but dying to hordes?...
Deflector and the strength one forgot the name
nocturne dust
slaughterer?
radiant frigate
I have been convered to smyker
another one lost to the warp
radiant frigate
doesn't help that I suck at melee apparently too lol
become proficient
seek expertise
nocturne dust
Surge staff doesn't do much for hordes. You're using Illisi but dying to hordes?...
Depends on if they have soulblaze build or not
fiery stratus
Also are you charging it at all?
its not a bad idea to throw a couple of those in to help
nocturne dust
With slaughterer, illisi generally kills chaff without charging
No real reason to charge unless they're real dense or mixed
ashen trellis
Depends on if they have soulblaze build or not
I run the venting shriek blaze thing yeah
destroys hordes when I can shriek
nocturne dust
I run the venting shriek blaze thing yeah
And perilous combustion + wildfire?
ashen trellis
yeah
nocturne dust
Then focus on surviving
and wait until you're off cooldown, then swap to staff and delete the nearest elite after shrieking
ripe obsidian
No real reason to charge unless they're real dense or mixed
Charge can get Shriek shriekier
nocturne dust
I mean if you need the peril for 85%, sure
fiery stratus
Like i said, throwing some in can help. Crowd density makes a difference of course
dont use it constantly
ashen trellis
like it's hard to pinpoint a problem because if team doesn't fail too much it's genuinely a breeze of a game and my stats are good
buoyant maple
If u really needed a horde clear melee, take Rashad over illisi
Illisi does better vs ragers & mutants which can be more useful but if u only care about horde clear efficiency, it loses to Rashad by a lot
nocturne dust
That is how Psyker works, yes. Psyker is a 'win more' type.
ashen trellis
but like I've had a game with 3 zealots where I was just being shot by every single lesser shooter and there was just nobody to deal with them, got overwhelmed even with deflector
fiery stratus
Welcome to zealot experience
nocturne dust
but like I've had a game with 3 zealots where I was just being shot by every sin...
Use EK on the shooters
fiery stratus
After a while its a good idea to not rely on teammates for anything
The truth is you cant count on randoms to do anything
Be ready to do it all
nocturne dust
EK eats shooters generally, if you have a problem with them that's more a positioning/awareness issue. Add on top Shriek which also just eats shooters, and it should be a breeze.
fiery stratus
breaking line of sight/ placement are as important as anything
nocturne dust
You can also look at your curios. Toughness regen speed actually helps a lot when it comes to random shooters, and of course there's gunner res for elites.
fiery stratus
people dont use the evironment enough
ashen trellis
You can also look at your curios. Toughness regen speed actually helps a lot whe...
I went for cd reduction and +hp and +toughness
should I switch flat toughness for faster regen maybe?
fiery stratus
Toughness regen speed is actually not good
radiant frigate
If u really needed a horde clear melee, take Rashad over illisi
Illisi does bett...
but illisi feels good
rashad does not
fiery stratus
Unfortunately this a fatshark game, so most things that seem like they'd work well on the the surface, either don't or work entirely different to how you think they do
clear heath
should I switch flat toughness for faster regen maybe?
Having more max toughness is better
buoyant maple
but illisi feels good
I think axes’ hit sound effects sound better than swords’ hit sound effects, maybe that’s just me
nocturne dust
should I switch flat toughness for faster regen maybe?
yes
late sapphire
it's usually the already existing horde that eventually kills me when my team is...
run run run, jump ledges, explode barrels etc
map knowledge
clear heath
and i don't really like toughness regen speed on psyker either
nocturne dust
Toughness regen speed is actually not good
It is tho
radiant frigate
I think axes’ hit sound effects sound better than swords’ hit sound effects, may...
I'm more thinking in terms of precookable sweeps (and mobile heavies)
fiery stratus
If we're talking on talents or something, its case by case
late sapphire
with illisi you can use the push (push attack breaks block) to stagger nearby enemies to make way
clear heath
we gain so much toughness that is unaffected by regen speed curios
nocturne dust
we gain so much toughness that is unaffected by regen speed curios
Sure, but slap on ER and suddenly we don't gain so much toughness
silver echo
how is warp splitting on a voidstrike? I heard that you can cleave through a crusher with it but haven't tested it
late sapphire
how is warp splitting on a voidstrike? I heard that you can cleave through a cru...
its peak, and that is a lie
all carapace stops all cleaving
radiant frigate
also, slaughterer/uncanny soulblaze shenanigans (which rashad also lacks)
late sapphire
you do go up to 24 cleaving, i.e. 48 with double balls if the 1st one kills
You can cleave mauler bodies pretty good
buoyant maple
also, slaughterer/uncanny soulblaze shenanigans (which rashad also lacks)
Yea, like i said if u only need a horde clear melee then Rashad still wins
Psyker’s melee scaling is just not good for Rashad to deal damage to elites
strong gulch
If the horde is right up on you and you keep getting hit when you charge, don't charge illisi and then try swing right away. Do a charge, push, then swing.
nocturne dust
but the curio version is basically useless if you mele
Also untrue, as while you can't gain toughness via coherency while in melee, a simple dodge backwards will have you immediately regening
clear heath
Sure, but slap on ER and suddenly we don't gain so much toughness
The main point remains unchanged
Coherency regen is still a small portion of the toughness you're gaining throughout a match
nocturne dust
with +90%
strong gulch
KD helps a lot too.
nocturne dust
The main point remains unchanged
Coherency regen is still a small portion of the...
It really isn't when you add in +90% on both delay and amount
radiant frigate
i think toughness regen speed on curios is massive cope
late sapphire
crushers have 20 mass so in theory you could cleave them with voidstrike and warp splitting...
nocturne dust
🤷♂️
fiery stratus
Toughness regen on curios is a bit of a wasted slot imo
late sapphire
Shame they fixed the shovel quad instakills and nerfed voidstrike my beloved
nocturne dust
For a mainly-ranged build, it makes complete sense
silver echo
yea I really don't get why they nerfed brutal just for ogryn
silver echo
pickaxes are better even with it
radiant frigate
all carapace stops all cleaving
Sunder has entered the chat
buoyant maple
regen speed curio is like +2.5 t/s at max coherency out of melee
Goes from 7.5/s to 14.25/s
assuming you have a 130 toughness psyker, that’s 17.3s -> 9.12s for full regen
late sapphire
yeah about 2.5 per curio
vernal frost
yea I really don't get why they nerfed brutal just for ogryn
probably cause no other instance of bm can kill a crusher patrol with a single hit
nocturne dust
Sunder has entered the chat
fiery stratus
but you'd figure it wouldnt be that useful, with all the ways psyker can already gen toughness
radiant frigate
essence harvest (shitty confirmed kill)
late sapphire
how is warp splitting on a voidstrike? I heard that you can cleave through a cru...
Tested again, can't cleave a crusher but you can (!) kill 5 maulers in one crit if they are already somewhat damaged
nocturne dust
but you'd figure it wouldnt be that useful, with all the ways psyker can already...
Well, yes, if you take all those ways to generate toughness. Do you?
strong gulch
Anyone wanna squad up? I keep getting people I have to carry in LFG, so I may as...
One day I would like to play with you. Busy right now tho. Also, you kight have to carry me lol. So I might be another drop in the LFG and qp bucket.
fiery stratus
I dont have a problem with toughness usually tbh
nocturne dust
and also don't take ER
silver echo
probably cause no other instance of bm can kill a crusher patrol with a single h...
sure but ogryn is already the worst class I don't think being able to kill 3 crushers slightly faster than a knife was that op
fiery stratus
but also mostly play sg lmao
buoyant maple
Tested again, can't cleave a crusher but you can (!) kill 5 maulers in one crit ...
Only body hit
late sapphire
Yes
buoyant maple
Headshot still gets stopped by carapace
fiery stratus
@strong gulch i'm sure you can put in more work than most of these randoms, people going down within the first section constantly.
late sapphire
Plasma is evil and will not be mentioned thank you
fiery stratus
Its not even that busted tbh
late sapphire
And also not a psyker weapon last time i checked
radiant frigate
Its not even that busted tbh
is it not?
fiery stratus
Its very good dont get me wrong, but the penetration is the only thing that makes it good
radiant frigate
it's like a supercharged revolver with a lot more ammo
fiery stratus
if it didnt pen with the cleave it has it wouldnt be good
fiery stratus
but not really
vernal frost
radiant frigate
too bad it has both pen and cleave
that's... the same thing
fiery stratus
i literally cant remember the last plasma i saw
radiant frigate
maybe people just got tired of plasma
late sapphire
My #1 most annoying teammate is a competent plasma vet with the same targeting priorities as me
late sapphire
The exact moment my voidstrike ball is halfway to its target a plasma projectile pierces through it and arrives first
fiery stratus
any time i played plasma it was just aiming head level and whatever the fuck
not even taking anything else into consideration
silver echo
bolt psitol synergizing with nades just makes it more fun tbh
BP + shovel built for crusher 1 shots just spamming shredders everywhere has been my go-to vet since the patch
radiant frigate
i just played plasma as a weapon spec enabler
clear heath
Me using bistol on zealot kept making me think "why isn't this a revolver?"
nocturne dust
I hate bolt pistol just because it still has the crosshair bug and I notice it every single time
silver echo
tbh I only ever like zealot with flamer otherwise the class just feels so boring
nocturne dust
Idk, It's fun to have a bolter to unload sometimes
clear heath
bolter on zealot is nice
fiery stratus
ive actually been using the agripinaa revolver since i started back on psyker
hipfire fun
pewpewpew
late sapphire
agri is fun particularly if you have warp splitting
fiery stratus
use it with my sg dd build
late sapphire
you can actually cleave a handful of groaners
fiery stratus
gets pretty nasty on monstous specials
silver echo
what's better with a scriers + void, using surge+nexus, getting kinetic flayer or 5% more crit with soul drinker
late sapphire
neither, really
silver echo
oh I guess I could grab malefic
late sapphire
Being on bb with sg voidstrike is wacky
silver echo
oh wait nvm
nocturne dust
what's better with a scriers + void, using surge+nexus, getting kinetic flayer o...
BB on sg voidstrike? Wack
late sapphire
Do NOT copy me
late sapphire
You are out of magenta
nocturne dust
😔
silver echo
I don't plan to actually use BB, but I don't plan to smite either
late sapphire
assail...
radiant frigate
so i wonder
late sapphire
you don't get that much out of psykinetics aura on sg
nocturne dust
Assail your opponents with Assail
runic juniper
gotta have the funny cooldown reduction talent you cant get on assail
radiant frigate
or do you bratwurstinate (like a master griller or somesuch)
late sapphire
what exactly is the bratwurstinator lore
steel flame
two of us were support zealots and we spent the whole match enabling the fuck out of our trauma psyker XP
prime elk
bromentum with warp splitting goes hard
Ngl idk if it even needs warp splitting.
Bromentum already does so much work
Realistically idk what extra cleave would do for Rashad
tired estuary
yeah base cleave is shit so it isn't adding much
might be "better" with antax since that technically has a cleave stat but lol, lmao
caxe psyker has always been aight tho b/c lmao that weapon is corny, and its better now just b/c of attack speed node
late sapphire
base cleave is about 1
echo root
you don't get that much out of psykinetics aura on sg
Wildfire for in fire reborn
More cdr more venting
late sapphire
dd...
the downtime on sg+lingering already is only 10s or so
i guess with warp siphon and psykinetics you can upkeep it permanently but idk the bonus from dd is too juicy to pass up
prime elk
caxe psyker has always been aight tho b/c lmao that weapon is corny, and its bet...
lol yeah Rashad on psyker isn’t as good as Rashad on vet… but that still means it’s very good
late sapphire
I just think rashad kind of lacks a place on psyker
The elite damage sucks pretty hard compared to ds4 and the crowd clear is worse than illsi
It is a pretty fun weapon though i think
tired estuary
It's in between the two for psyker
prime elk
I just think rashad kind of lacks a place on psyker
It is the best horde clear melee still. And hordes are the most common enemy.
late sapphire
compared to illisi kinda eh
prime elk
It’ll horde clear faster than illisi
blissful solar
the power swords are so useful to build peril with, hard to use anything else
late sapphire
force swords, sibling
prime elk
the power swords are so useful to build peril with, hard to use anything else
Found the vet main trying to pretend to be a psyker
blissful solar
ironically vet is my least played class, psyker my most, then zealot and ogryn
power and force are just almost the same word in some sense and im not a big warhammer guy
prime elk
Yeah I’m just fucking with you (I’m a vet main)
nocturne dust
I just think rashad kind of lacks a place on psyker
Force Axe when 
late sapphire
Force Axe when <:pogryn:961977701533614130>
I can't wait to start talking about faxes
God i love faxe
nocturne dust
Spitting straight faxe
late sapphire
They call me the faxe machine that's how much i love my faxes
prime elk
Force Axe when <:pogryn:961977701533614130>
If it has brutal momentum
pulsar hazel
If it has brutal momentum <:pogryn:961977701533614130>
If it has slaughterer + headtaker
buoyant maple
If it has slaughterer + headtaker <:whatthefuck_heresy:1049724444207239168>
That’s just chainaxe with extra steps
ripe obsidian
I do not understand why the Voidstrike charge time is like 30% higher than Trauma.
late sapphire
I do not understand why the Voidstrike charge time is like 30% higher than Traum...
balancing
ripe obsidian
I pushed a burster today. A shotgunner pushed it back.
echo root
Thanks fatshark
exotic crane
skill issue
fleet berry
How do u get that stat screen to pop up? Is it a mod?
exotic crane
Smite cannot crit, correct?
nocturne dust
How do u get that stat screen to pop up? Is it a mod?
exotic crane
thx
vital coyote
I saw someone using the voidblast staff and they were like almost insta charging the secondary shot it looked like. Do I get that just when I upgrade my equipment eventually?
nocturne dust
I mean, as you max out your equipment, staves do charge faster
It's not quite instant tho
vital coyote
ok it just looked real fast then lol
nocturne dust
Maybe also using half-charges. The blast radius also increases.
restive stump
Anyone available to help with that monstrosity private game penance? I will use my ogryn to help u if u need too or any other penance
strong gulch
How do u get that stat screen to pop up? Is it a mod?
Use the overproof plugin with it. It's more accurate.
steel flame
Use the overproof plugin with it. It's more accurate.
too bad its way to overcluttered
modest perch
Lmao just configure it to show what you wanna see
analog agate
I saw someone using the voidblast staff and they were like almost insta charging...
Quell canceling
vital coyote
quell canceling?
strong gulch
too bad its way to overcluttered
You don't have to turn everything on, but I get what you're saying.
analog agate
Yes. It is animation canceling. It cuts into the animation your guy does after casting a blast and allows you to cast quicker. It really does make a difference
You just tap the quell key a specific time to do it
modest perch
Yea but it’s annoying to do correctly all the time so ppl just macro it
steel flame
its game changing for trauma staff but next to impossible to macro for that staff
modest perch
Ok did they like hard nerf trauma recently or have I just always been bad at psyker ?
analog agate
What? It is extremely easy for blast staff. What are you guys smoking. You literally just tap R
nocturne dust
Yes. It is animation canceling. It cuts into the animation your guy does after c...
quell cancelling doesn't insta-charge the secondary attack
analog agate
It probably seems like it does to someone who doesn’t know what quell canceling does. I can consistently, constantly secondary fire my blast staff. Now, they aren’t all full blasts obviously
languid tusk
stacking stamina on psyker lets you do some ridiculous things with devil claw sword lol https://streamable.com/tt66xg
brazen rampart
I dont see how stamina plays into that at all when you're using kinetic deflection.
languid tusk
hidden interaction between stamina and kinetic deflection
nocturne dust
Stamina controls KD peril gen
languid tusk
you consume less peril the more stamina you have
nocturne dust
KD generates peril based on your max stamina
broken carbon
I dont see how stamina plays into that at all when you're using kinetic deflecti...
KD generates peril at 1/4th percent stamina cost iirc, so the more stamina you have, the less peril generates
nocturne dust
Now someone else say it too
broken carbon
Now someone else say it too <:thumbsup_ogryn:1063452727302180926>
i gave more detail
so
brazen rampart
KD generates peril at 1/4th percent stamina cost iirc, so the more stamina you h...
🐌🐌🐌🐌🐌🐌
brazen rampart
@mossy oyster Since when was meow one of your grubs?
broken carbon
<@139852743358545920> Since when was meow one of your grubs?
i had that as a sticker far before him.
brazen rampart
Ok Para grub...
broken carbon
proud pivot
how to get better at psyker
haughty star
how to get better at psyker
yell more
proud pivot
understood 
potent echo
fierce lynx
heavy ember
is the stamina curio the only one that lies?
strong gulch
is the stamina curio the only one that lies?
Ye. I think it's the +3 stam 400 curio that is a scam.
heavy ember
Ye. I think it's the +3 stam 400 curio that is a scam.
nice, still looking for a 17% toughness. seems impossible
ionic frost
nice, still looking for a 17% toughness. seems impossible
keep checking that armoury every hour like it's your job...you'll eventually get one =P
heavy ember
keep checking that armoury every hour like it's your job...you'll eventually get...
yea i have been as well as grinding melk too
ionic frost
as in random curios?
heavy ember
no luck, found a stam 3 and a 21% health tho
heavy ember
as in random curios?
yea lol
ionic frost
well...not sure what else you'd spend melkbux on now =P
nocturne dust
keep checking that armoury every hour like it's your job...you'll eventually get...
me at several months still lacking a 21% hp curio:
split lance
i have less hours on this game than id of thought
strong gulch
Yeah... my partner has nearly a 1000 hours and is still hunting for a 21 hp curio.
split lance
ooooooooooooof
radiant frigate
me at several months still lacking a 21% hp curio:
time to spend all your melkbucks
perhaps i should do the same
need 1% health on vet
nocturne dust
time to spend all your melkbucks
Next you're going to suggest I run +curio on my curios
radiant frigate
Next you're going to suggest I run +curio on my curios
- curio + dockets + xp
hell yeah
nocturne dust
potent echo
I got 2 17% toughness curios after playing melk gacha
Too bad I don't need anymore toughness
idle marsh
So is the infantry autogun or recon las better for gunker
I died in a mission because I tried to flank the enemy ranger blob, because the autogun didn’t have enough range from my position with the team
wind spruce
So is the infantry autogun or recon las better for gunker
I prefer the recon now
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d3473c2-2875-40d5-b931-a40973eea02e/burn-gunker-2
idle marsh
I prefer the recon now
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d3473c2-2875-4...
Thanks!
nocturne dust
So is the infantry autogun or recon las better for gunker
autogun has higher dps, recon is if you need more bullets to spray
potent echo
I prefer autogun if I'm running brain rot illussy
radiant frigate
but recon has no boolets...
potent echo
Since recon and illussy has no boss damage
nocturne dust
but recon has no boolets...
laser bullets are bullets
Otherwise why do the bullet-filled boxes work on lasguns
potent echo
Warp
radiant frigate
Since recon and illussy has no boss damage
burnination recon is ok boss damage
plus works from any angle (fuck bonbon)
potent echo
It's ok boss damage like illisi is okay boss damage
nocturne dust
Autogun also works from any angle
potent echo
But 2 okays do not make a good
nocturne dust
Purgatus also works from any angle
Surge also works from any angle
Heck, I think the only ranged option that truly cares about angle is poor voidstrike
potent echo
Using staff on bosses is like desperate territory
nocturne dust
of the popular picks at least
potent echo
Last one left alive vs bonbon
nocturne dust
Using staff on bosses is like desperate territory
No? EK and purg both do decent damage.
potent echo
Perhaps
nocturne dust
Like, yeah, you'd be better killing off adds
nocturne dust
but it's not bad to attack the boss with those staves
potent echo
potent echo
At least you stagger adds
Nothing too wrong about it
If blaze you also burn everything
nocturne dust
Stagger blessings on trauma when
I want to recruit heretics into my Atoma Space Program. By force.
potent echo
I forgor if trauma staggers green enemies
nocturne dust
uuuuhhhhh I don't remember either
potent echo
Based trauma users
radiant frigate
based force greatsword users when?
echo root
Stagger blessings on trauma when
I want the burn on crit blessing on Elektro
spice veldt
summer prairie
kind of weird to have a debug hud just for a weapon
surely because it's going to be so powerful and cool
summer prairie
we just had 2 BoN, plague ogryn and DH active at once in the event map
nocturne dust
surely because it's going to be so powerful and cool
fiery stratus
Fuckin a i drank far too much last night
haughty star
zinc phoenix
I like the idea of havoc but no matchmaker means I won’t play it
Other than grinding out the new look
If they want us to adjust build they could consider making the quick play lobby timer more than 1m and give us more tools to coordinate in it
They could also, idk, use the actual fucking effects of the maelstrom etc not just an alphanumeric code???
exotic crane
That's the whole point of it
so that people come prepared, and not just click button to grind on whatever build
upper sun
If they want us to adjust build they could consider making the quick play lobby ...
the game really needs a loadout box at the spawn
exotic crane
but then it could be abused
zinc phoenix
so that people come prepared, and not just click button to grind on whatever bui...
Except in reality that’s exactly what I will do in the new group play mode. I will click it, play with the build I want to play and go on with my life
No one is actually going to strategerize with randos and have it be at all effective
upper sun
but then it could be abused
make it like one use only or it self destructs after you leave the area
thats very easily fixable
zinc phoenix
Especially when — and I can’t believe I’m having to repeat this — there is zero in game support for coordination
upper sun
yeah
exotic crane
if I understand correctly how the group finder works, you will actually have to be desired to get invited to a group
upper sun
quickplay is how most of the people play
zinc phoenix
if I understand correctly how the group finder works, you will actually have to ...
I got my ass and metal gear solid tags, people will add me
upper sun
yet there are zero tools to support that
game doesnt even tell you what mission you're qping into except in the lobby
zinc phoenix
Quick play dumping you into active missions with zero chance to change your loadout be like 🤦♀️
upper sun
special conditions: uhhhhhh its dark n shit
radiant frigate
Quick play dumping you into active missions with zero chance to change your load...
quick play dumping you into a match with a boss in your face, last wound, no grenades and your gun is empty
zinc phoenix
special conditions: uhhhhhh its dark n shit
“Allow you to equip a flashlight? No, I don’t think I will”
upper sun
yeah we could use an extra slot for random shit
radiant frigate
what if we had 3 weapons
upper sun
like you get a choice between a survoskull flashlight or something that auto picks up mats
radiant frigate
melee, ranged big and ranged smol
late sapphire
what if basegame weapon customization
what if you could just glue flashlights to your staff
radiant frigate
real
exotic crane
what if you could just glue flashlights to your staff
or you know, just have a flashlight on your armor, like real people do all the time.
it's not some forgotten 30k tech
radiant frigate
(just a huge ass flashlight)
equinox mk IV floodlight staff
upper sun
(just a huge ass flashlight)
recon
radiant frigate
the entire hive be like
zinc phoenix
what if we had 3 weapons
Psyker be like “always have been” 😎
exotic crane
ancient xenos tech
radiant frigate
fucking mobile discord
late sapphire
wtf is this shit
upper sun
ancient xenos tech
SCD for that was lost ages ago............
zinc phoenix
like you get a choice between a survoskull flashlight or something that auto pic...
Med skull
late sapphire
you glue a bone to the ds and that's a skin?
zinc phoenix
Waifu skull
upper sun
reload speed skull
zinc phoenix
Honestly idk why they don’t have a whole servitor skull system
late sapphire
This SHIT is so ASS
zinc phoenix
It’s so very obviously fun AND it’s something rogue trader did
young summit
Bruh
young summit
late sapphire
young summit
I like the battlewear on the blade
radiant frigate
ogryn-made cosmetics
young summit
But just strapping a bone on the guard is insane lmao
zinc phoenix
But what about truck nuts for my staff?
upper sun
ive got a bone to pick with fatshark over those staves...........
young summit
THE BONES AREN'T EVEN RELIQUARIES
upper sun
the powersword skin is fire tho
radiant frigate
But just strapping a bone on the guard is insane lmao
it is guardier now
zinc phoenix
Power bone 🦴
radiant frigate
the powersword skin is fire tho
show
upper sun
@plucky flax good peesword skin dropped
late sapphire
peesword looks ass on my pc but i have ultra low graphics
radiant frigate
rattle 'em boys
late sapphire
young summit
Need a Crusher skin that's a big Flintstones ass dinosaur bone
late sapphire
i like the redemptors veil thats's maaaybe worth 5$
radiant frigate
almost as good as base ps6
late sapphire
young summit
Death
late sapphire
but the ds skin man
upper sun
ah yes the psyker burqa
young summit
Finally
late sapphire
And at the same time the vets get a commissar's cap...
Really though i have no idea what fs is doing with these skins man
zinc phoenix
Bro put the guard on upside down
radiant frigate
ah yes the psyker burqa
inshallah the emperor will guide you
patent mango
funniest skin packs who made this
radiant frigate
funniest skin packs who made this
brunt
patent mango
true
young summit
The servitorized commissary NPC seems more likely
radiant frigate
next mission we hunt him down and he faces trial for ripping us off
zinc phoenix
The servitorized commissary NPC seems more likely
I I I I I’ve been lobotomized
upper sun
every weapon has like 2 lines of text
how it was found n shit
were doing darksouls storytelling
patent mango
they put little work into these to save the effort for the force greatsword update
young summit
Wait so these are canonically chaos weapons?
zinc phoenix
how it was found n shit
“We found this in a dumpster outside a Hot Topic”
“It smells like Teen Spirit”
upper sun
“We found this in a dumpster outside a Hot Topic”
"this shield was just a jeeps door"
young summit
I could get behind Orgyn skins like that though. Put a Crusher's helmet on the front of a Valkyrie loading ramp and call it improvised
That kinda goes hard
zinc phoenix
“This power mobility scooter was created by the people of Wal Mart Prime to defeat the local orc menace”
broken carbon
Wait so these are canonically chaos weapons?
no, they’re weapons recovered by brunt
late sapphire
I'm still waiting for the ogryn shield skin that's just a torn off crushers armor
young summit
I wish
late sapphire
Or outright just a mauler idk i'm not picky
Live mauler shield skin 20$ last offer
100% most bought skin ever
zinc phoenix
Or outright just a mauler idk i'm not picky
Weapon skins that are literally just an enemy held by the ogryn
young summit
Need banners with heretic/saint corpses as cosmetic backpacks
late sapphire
Fatshark hire me
zinc phoenix
Bully Club that is literally just a random pox walker
young summit
Yes
zinc phoenix
but male only
Blessed
broken carbon
rock skin that’s just a crusher’s head
young summit
My professional vet needs it
broken carbon
or a mauler’s head
young summit
Mauler's head is probably perfect sized
zinc phoenix
My professional vet needs it
“Because you’re fascinated… and you’ve got no sense of boundaries”
young summit
There are one or two that look all right
zinc phoenix
Yes
young summit
It's hair that sucks
zinc phoenix
I wish I could rename and cut the pecker off my zealot
exotic crane
god is my witness, I tried to make female characters
young summit
I wish I could rename and cut the pecker off my zealot
You can?
exotic crane
but just made goofy men instead
jovial juniper
does anyone even play female characters in dt? those faces...
Believe me
That's part of the charm
zinc phoenix
For renaming too?
zinc phoenix
When do you get to rename?
jovial juniper
Yup
At the end of the customization
zinc phoenix
At the very end?
young summit
Very last step
zinc phoenix
Oh ok
exotic crane
It's hair that sucks
the hair too, yeah
zinc phoenix
Blessed, it’s time to giggity girlize him
Judge voice is just way too common and the lady zealots are way fuckin crazier
broken carbon
fem fanatic is the best zealot voice
jovial juniper
I'm too Fem Agitator pilled to agree
young summit
I don't really like the female zealots. They're too piercing in tone.
At least I couldn't play one
zinc phoenix
All male zealots use judge and like 90% of zealots are male 😂
young summit
I feel like I see way more female zealots, but the male zealots are usually dead
echo root
I'm too Fem Agitator pilled to agree
Is that the scottish one?
I love the scottish femzel
BLAGGARDS
brazen rampart
Judge still has better voicelines.
echo root
Judge still has better voicelines.
echo root
BLOOD FOR THE EMPEROR, SKULLS FOR THE GOLDEN THRONE
exotic crane
Evil german scientist is the best voice in darktide cmv
ornate hamlet
I like lawful good cop voice on psyker lmao
nocturne dust
Judge still has better voicelines.
It's okay to be wrong.
late sapphire
Mutated horrors?
stark crown
night ferry
It seems Asail makes the mutated explode. Safe assumption that Smite, and BB will as well?
nocturne dust
I wouldn't call it a safe assumption, no
We'll see, I haven't been able to test yet
late sapphire
I have been voidstriking them, that seems to work well
edgy garnet
Hey spark heads, after 900hrs on vet I finally created a new character and it’s a psyker. What are good guides or videos to watch? 
broken carbon
Hey spark heads, after 900hrs on vet I finally created a new character and it’s ...
pygex
or agent chaos
broken carbon
Hey spark heads, after 900hrs on vet I finally created a new character and it’s ...
there’s a guide in pins too
i don’t know if it’s updated actually hold on
it is
nocturne dust
new weapons drop next week
broken carbon
hi para
mossy oyster
hi meow
exotic crane
fr fr?
upper sun
Deceive Inc. is free on epic
upper sun
its free
i just hoard games there
only good one they ever dropped was marvels guardians of the galaxy
nocturne dust
You know what else is free? Eating leaves
upper sun
i hate this dude
nocturne dust
steel flame
Hey spark heads, after 900hrs on vet I finally created a new character and it’s ...
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959
If you want information on psyker mechanics you'll find it here
upper sun
embed fail 😭
steel flame
Much better
jovial juniper
Hey spark heads, after 900hrs on vet I finally created a new character and it’s ...
As a rule of thumb
Avoid 90% of videos
steel flame
@edgy garnet Pygex will get you started on alot of mechanics for psyker but other than that 90% of people that try to make guides on psyker don't actually understand the class
broken carbon
agent chaos is the only other good darktide youtuber i know
i don’t like telopots because his community
nocturne dust
It's true, I made a guide and it's just misinformation and lies
strong gulch
Hey spark heads, after 900hrs on vet I finally created a new character and it’s ...
For builds and actual gameplay I like @plucky flax . There aren't explanations in his vids, but he is in the discord and is generally helpful.
https://www.youtube.com/@AgentChaosMeme/videos
For info and some explanation of gameplay, Pygex has relevant videos. Pygex is also the author of the Atheneum in the pins. Remember that Pygex is just one person. I takes a lot of time to work on the guide and update it; he has done a great service to us by doing all of that. Also, he is one guy and not everyone agrees on everything he says. Still helpful.
https://www.youtube.com/@Pygex/videos
For data and how things work, I like Ryken. His builds are heckin sus tho. He really likes fun for him thematic builds. So they are not going to be optimized meta builds like you would get here in the discord.
https://www.youtube.com/@rykenxiv/videos
plucky flax
strong gulch
Psyker doesn't really come together until level 30.
late sapphire
agent chaos??? more like... being selfish in war...
plucky flax
snow nymph
exellente thank
narrow herald
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959
If you want ...
doesn't this build say that Toughness regen is the bets perk on psyker? 🤔
is this tru?
late sapphire
pygex 😔
nocturne dust
is this tru?
imo, yes
steel flame
doesn't this build say that Toughness regen is the bets perk on psyker? 🤔
For what now? I don't follow pygex's builds, we have a different build mentality for psyker but he is a data man through and through
Are you talking about toughness Regen on relics?
broken carbon
Are you talking about toughness Regen on relics?
curios, yes
steel flame
It used to only apply to coherency toughness Regen when we tested it way back when, not sure if that's changed
broken carbon
It used to only apply to coherency toughness Regen when we tested it way back wh...
still does
late sapphire
it's not as bad on psyker as it is on zealot
narrow herald
this is his justification:
Psykers are a glass cannon class and having that extra Toughness Regeneration Speed is extremely important as not only does it give you more toughness but it also shortens the delay it takes for your coherency regeneration to kick in after taking damage. The faster you have your toughness topped up, the more frequent mistakes you can make without taking any chip damage. This is even more important if you are running Empyric Resolve.
steel flame
That I agree with
late sapphire
coherency toughness regen is good in situations where (a) you are in coherency (b) you are not killing anything (c) you are taking damage somehow
edgy garnet
late sapphire
which... what?
narrow herald
coherency toughness regen is good in situations where (a) you are in coherency (...
range damage doesn't have a delay
late sapphire
So, really, it's insurance against getting smacked by random single groaners while walking around
Yes but if you are killing stuff you get warp kills crits etc which heavily outperform coherency regen
exotic crane
range damage doesn't have a delay
it does
narrow herald
but the problem I am asking is Psyker is a range class, therefore u shouldnt have problems with gunners in the first place
vernal blaze
oh yeah did they fix the fake perk that was the alternative to empyric resolve or nah
late sapphire
what i estimate it as is basically an essence harvest equivalent
late sapphire
oh yeah did they fix the fake perk that was the alternative to empyric resolve o...
nah
vernal blaze
fun fun
late sapphire
3 toughness regen speed perks = 1 essence harvest talent
really though it doesn't matter because curio perks do so little
steel flame
Personally I run more toughness in perks and on melee builds I'll do stamina Regen and then some gunner resist but honestly relics are all personal preference
steel flame
It adds up
late sapphire
Might as well get + ordo dockets
steel flame
Every little bit of toughness adds up especially with toughness damage resistance boosting how effective each point of toughness is
nocturne dust
I think people underestimate the power of +90% toughness regen
It takes 3 slots, yes, but the reduction in delay means it is constantly active if you're even the slightest bit not in melee
late sapphire
and in coherency
nocturne dust
Which means when you're dealing with ranged enemies, it is supremely helpful
late sapphire
I think it is useful but i wouldn't put three perks into it
nocturne dust
and in coherency
Well, yes, but why would you not be in coherency? 
late sapphire
Well, yes, but why would you not be in coherency? <:hmmgryn:1022192304154484767>
zealot barrel 💥
nocturne dust
I mean, I don't think +15% toughness is going to save you on Psyker if you get barreled, or your allies get barreled
late sapphire
30% dockets though
late sapphire
Anyways, i think it's a pretty good perk for most players
But it does abandon you in the most critical of times
nocturne dust
I think the ability to resist chip damage way better is far more important on Psyker
mossy oyster
chip damage you mean chip burst
late sapphire
Do you take essence harvest
nocturne dust
No
late sapphire
And yet...
nocturne dust
I generally have teammates around me more often than elites
late sapphire
I don't 😢
nocturne dust
Stay with the team and keep them alive 🤷♂️
late sapphire
Babysitting...
nocturne dust
Yes
steel flame
I wish knife zealots would take that advice, nothing I love more than a mr stealth aggroing every elite in a 5 mile radius during a boss then dumping all their aggro on me
nocturne dust
The other issue with Essence Harvest is generally I don't have that many talent points to spare
KD tax 😭
late sapphire
I wish knife zealots would take that advice, nothing I love more than a mr steal...
I actually usually like those guys, saves the effort of collecting elites yourself
Except for cases where they somehow manage to aggro 4 bulwarks in front of and behind you
nocturne dust
Hhhhhmmmmm so new mode with explosive enemies on ranged kill and purgatus... let's see how this goes
upper sun
GAMES????
nocturne dust
hm?
upper sun
wanna play?
nocturne dust
siure
late sapphire
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(repost from zealot chat)
i thought the psyker skins were bad man
hazy moss
does smite "crit"?
nocturne dust
no
hazy moss
so "perfect timing" wont activate off smite?
nocturne dust
It won't, yeah
narrow herald
this is what I am trying out atm:
sour nest
Why toughness regen speed?
narrow herald
it is currently being debatable on the best psyker perk
i am trying it out to see
some real games
sour nest
Wouldn't just ability regen or toughness give you more?
I don't see how toughness regen is good
narrow herald
ability regen is ass