psyker-class

[nocturne dust]

That's psyker on every build

[young summit]

I like it, but I can definitely see how staffs can outperform it.

[late yew]

In very long mission? May be

[nocturne dust]

Wat, no? That's not how ratios work

[late yew]

But as long as gunker has ammo, he will outperform every other build

[nocturne dust]

Uh

No way

Staffker outperforms gunker very readily

[late yew]

You can deal with horde in less than 4 seconds with gunker

you can't do that on any other build

[young summit]

Ehhhhh

[late yew]

mixed horde*

[young summit]

I don't know about that claim chief

[nocturne dust]

If you try to deal with every horde with your gun, good luck

[young summit]

Voidstrike kinda just

Deletes hordes

Specials included, usually

[nocturne dust]

and yes, also every staff also does that

[young summit]

Real

[late yew]

no

too long charge time

[nocturne dust]

Most staves even kill crushers too

[young summit]

Easily

[late yew]

You can literally destroy whole horde on gunker before void staff even makes first fully charged blast

[young summit]

That's cap

[nocturne dust]

Maybe with the most meta build, but you'll run out of ammo very quickly doing that

[late yew]

the fuck "cap" even= means

[young summit]

Lie

[nocturne dust]

It's zoomer speak for 'lie'

[late yew]

Imagine being able to read

[late yew]

I LITERALLY SAID THIS

But you kee pchanging your point

[nocturne dust]

"except on long missions"
Boy, you'll be red on train

[late yew]

HOW

WHY

[late sapphire]

i think an ogryn gunlugger can outperform a gunker if he has ammo

[late yew]

WHAT KIND OF MORON EVEN USES IT LIKE THAT

[nocturne dust]

🤷‍♂️

[nocturne dust]

🤷‍♂️

[nocturne dust]

The new generation

[late yew]

We are talking about psyker only, not about all classes

[nocturne dust]

Easily, yes

[young summit]

I didn't decide to make that slang like 7 years ago when it appeared

[late yew]

And i don't know shit about ogryns, so

i remember Ripper being op

but that was even before first talents rework

[young summit]

Then why say gun psyker outperforms every other build. Lol

[late sapphire]

'cap' is AAVE for bragging

[nocturne dust]

Also, I don't think this is true. I need video evidence of a whole mixed horde getting deleted that quickly

for science

[late sapphire]

I don't like playing my main build anymore because it makes me wonder what the other three guys are doing

Now i have to play lesser builds like fire trauma or surge 😢

[young summit]

With crack aim and an infernus recon, gun psyker can definitely put the hurt on a horde, I'm not denying that

But not faster than everyone else, nah

[late yew]

every other [psyker] build*

[young summit]

Hmm, okay.

[late yew]

what is that build?

[late sapphire]

Anyways, i don't think i've ever seen a gunker rip ass and explode 48 groaners

[late yew]

No, infernus is a meme

[nocturne dust]

Staffker still better

[late yew]

I truly despise staffkers

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/weakness-disgusts-me-madara-uchiha-madara-naruto-weakness-disgust-me-gif-17219305

[late yew]

Would literally spit in their mouths

[strong gulch]

This has all of the assail cleave details tested with WP (warp splitting), ES (ethereal shards), and EP. Blitz Nodes (Part III)
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3094028505

[nocturne dust]

What if I said I was into it

[late yew]

thanks

[late yew]

We all have to make sacrifices

[young summit]

I have definitely had this feeling as a voidstrike user

[late sapphire]

missing some details

[broken carbon]

no, cap means lying, or accusing someone of lying

if you say, “that’s cap”

ur saying that’s a lie

[young summit]

"You're lying"

Yeah

Or at least "that's not true"

[broken carbon]

yarp

[late sapphire]

Telling tall tales

[young summit]

Telling stories

Bearing false witness, you might say

[late sapphire]

Troubling in terrorist town

[late yew]

this is how i hear you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS_HPF2-eBU

[broken carbon]

cool?

[late sapphire]

meow is about 12 i think

[broken carbon]

how surprised would you be if i told you i was an adult woman

[late sapphire]

I would accuse you of lies, deceit and somesuch

cap, even

[young summit]

Strong words

[nocturne dust]

Adult we may be in biology, but childish, the minds of rejects are

[broken carbon]

how dare you accuse me of mistruths, falsehoods, and whatnot

[young summit]

Blessed is the mind too small for doubt

[late sapphire]

Ha! Tiny Minds!

[nocturne dust]

Ogryns when they're told Horus is the good guy:

[young summit]

Gotta love the big faithful guys

They may be monsters, but they're our monsters

[late yew]

women don't exist

Imagine if ogryns were smart

they wou ld dominate the galaxy

[scarlet timber]

guys

whats teh build on bonk sticks on psyker?

[late yew]

ogryns in latex eldar wraithbone armor

Ogryns on jetbikes

OGRYNS WITH JETPACKS OH MY LAWD

Warpsider ogryns

[scarlet timber]

no i meant

shock maul

[broken carbon]

hammerblow/trauma/high voltage skullcruhser

an impact blessing helps you reach BPs for staggering enemies for skullcrusher

[scarlet timber]

no lighting reflexes?

[broken carbon]

high voltage is just more damage on enemies you stagger

[broken carbon]

it was nerfed to only activate on one enemy per perfect block

so its a pretty heavy nerf

it still can work but

just take kinetic deflection

with shock maul, i’d recommend a secondary with good unyielding damage

because smaul has really poor unyielding

[scarlet timber]

i see okay

thank you

its not like devil claw then anymore

[haughty star]

What gun

[radiant frigate]

excessive shooting imo

[haughty star]

Also gunker can't horde is "cap". Rlg or vmk5 straight mops hordes in seconds with not much ammo consumption to boot

[haughty star]

Were psykers its kind of a shooty class

If that's what you wanna call whatever it is staves do anyway

[nocturne dust]

You give me a video of a full match where you dump straight into every horde.

Do it.

[haughty star]

Literally why would someone do that? You have assail to keep hordes under control

[nocturne dust]

You just baiting, go away

[haughty star]

You mop up with rlg and vmkv when the hordes exceed assail/ds4 capabilities which isn't often

[nocturne dust]

Nobody said the guns can't kill a mixed horde. 🤷‍♂️

[radiant frigate]

i do wanna call it that

engage in melee NOW ⚡

[haughty star]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-man-no-man-no-gif-7347715096894588969

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/dungeons-dragons-80s-retro-cartoon-bow-and-arrow-gif-14404811

[haughty star]

That's a 3rd of what gunker does

[orchid ibex]

not until i get a force glaive

[nocturne dust]

wdym, as a staffker it's only 1/10th

[echo root]

Why melee when fire

[nocturne dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1004447866250613048/1295449409160478781/chiquichico-ezgif.com-instagif.gif

[radiant frigate]

satisfying crunch

[haughty star]

Only thing ol' dead here has ever been objectively right about is gunker is meleeker is assailker

[young summit]

By Crunch of Bone, even

[echo root]

Nothing is more satisfying than watching heretics burn to death then spread more fire

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/passive-aggressive-gif-18885121

[echo root]

[haughty star]

I should start doing more traditional gunker things

I just like yelling so much

[radiant frigate]

i like power sword now!!

[nocturne dust]

[haughty star]

I hate p sword

[nocturne dust]

Sunder psword can be fun

[radiant frigate]

i put slaughterer and power cycler on it so i can pretend it's illisi

[haughty star]

Idk how it can be more powerful than illisi but just feel bad

But it do to me lol

[radiant frigate]

well it doesn't have mobile heavies

[fiery stratus]

Anyone wanna do auric? LFGs dead yo

[haughty star]

Maybe that's it

[echo root]

Why can't zealot have psword

[nocturne dust]

It's because it's less mobile and does nothing without empowering

[haughty star]

Illisi feels like lightsaber, p sword feels like something out of a ps2 fps lol

[nocturne dust]

Idk about Illisi being a lightsaber

Maybe with max meleeker, but even then... the damage is so... not where I want it to be.

for a lightsaber at least

I'd expect a lightsaber to cleave crushers in twain

[radiant frigate]

the damage is only lacking vs crushers/bulwarks/bosses

[nocturne dust]

Eh

[fiery stratus]

so the important stuff

[nocturne dust]

If you don't have DD and SG, illisi is kinda

[radiant frigate]

just tell us that you're a warp siphon fullcaster

[nocturne dust]

Why do i need to tell you

It should be obvious

[echo root]

It is the way.

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/gandalf-gif-10689881

[nocturne dust]

waiting for EP to be good on something other than smite

[radiant frigate]

it is the way that made me a vet main now

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/weakness-disgusts-me-madara-uchiha-madara-naruto-weakness-disgust-me-gif-17219305

[echo root]

How much fun are you having spamming guns and voice of command?

[nocturne dust]

"This is boring, so I've chosen a more boring option"

[radiant frigate]

why assume that i'm shooting everything

when it is the precise thing that turned me off

[steel flame]

ive been abusing the shit out of funny chainaxe with my fire build. the shredder 1 touch for full 40% brittle and 16 bleed, followed up by flame staff fucks over monstrosity maelstrom so hard

[echo root]

That's how I play vet, I shoot everything

[clear heath]

melee vet with weap spec is actually more engaging than zealot

[nocturne dust]

That's a take

[steel flame]

i love melee vet

so much fun

[clear heath]

you don't really need to think much on zealot aside from a few weapons

[radiant frigate]

zealot is definitely something

bleed knife for example is one of the builds ever made

m1 m1 m1 m1 m1 m1 m1 m1

murder achieved

[clear heath]

there's quite a few zealot builds that just shut brain off until you see 1 trapper
In which case you activate 1 brain cell to toss a throwing knife at it

[radiant frigate]

whatever's in front of you will die to repeated m1 to the head

[echo root]

Knife stealth is so fun

[radiant frigate]

the mere mention of knife stealth is going to give me an aneurysm

[echo root]

1 shot to the neck

[orchid ibex]

i've had awful experiences with stealth zealots

so much that i've literally never tried the build myself

[echo root]

Cause it attracts the worst players

[radiant frigate]

to any knife stealth players, just don't

[clear heath]

i should try stealth knife

should really attempt it at least once

[blissful solar]

stealth doesnt seem worth it. backstabbing is so inconsistent

[radiant frigate]

i did it for the penance

[orchid ibex]

what's good about it over the other zealot options?

[blissful solar]

stealth is useful for reviving people and/or running away/deaggroing enemies

[orchid ibex]

how does it help the team to have a zealot aggro dumping the other 3 though?

[nocturne dust]

It's good for soloing. 🤷‍♂️

[blissful solar]

well, they might then backstab them to death

them losing aggro could be useful since the enemies will have to walk over to their new aggro target and thus they will have no damage output for a bit

[orchid ibex]

i can't imagine a situation where i wouldn't rather have a zealot just run at the enemy and fight them

[clear heath]

main utility i'd care about with stealth is just objectives and revives

[blissful solar]

it's definitely not worth it. maybe if they added a talent or blessing that made backstabs happen even on frontstabs it could become good

[radiant frigate]

the good news is that playing stealth knife will put you on the block list of an ever growing number of people so you can finally play the game solo like you wanted

[clear heath]

or you could just dodge the incoming attacks

[blissful solar]

ok

[clear heath]

I don't think stealthing to avoid damage in normal combat is that helpful

but doing it to do an objective is a valid usecase

[blissful solar]

in that case then there is no problem with deaggroing cuz your teammates who are in danger should also "just dodge"

[nocturne dust]

Blocking people just because they have a build is 🤮

[orchid ibex]

with one less teammate

the aggro of a 3vhorde instead of 4vhorde

[blissful solar]

but the stealth zealot doesnt just cease to exist lol

[radiant frigate]

what about blocking people because they're downright annoying to be around

[blissful solar]

and their stealth doesnt last that long anyway

also i started all this saying that stealth zealot isnt worth it

so idk why you guys are arguing as though i think it's meta goated

it has some pros and cons

[radiant frigate]

anyway the only reason it isn't worth it is that charge has an attack speed buff

[nocturne dust]

I don't see how stealth zealot is annoying

at least, not anymore annoying than a bad teammate

[orchid ibex]

it's mostly just less effective than the other options

infinite toughness or charge at stuff with attack speed

[blissful solar]

the charge is so much better

for damage output anyway

[radiant frigate]

it is annoying when you see some idiot running ahead all alone and then doing god knows what waiting for the rest of the team

[clear heath]

I don't need stealth to abandon my team

people who need invis to troll teammates are weak

[radiant frigate]

invis helps outrunning

zealot helps outrunning

knife helps outrunning

having all three makes it a lot easier to perform

[nocturne dust]

Just take speed scrier's and outrun them

[radiant frigate]

not enough

[nocturne dust]

speed scrier's and knife isn't enough?

[orchid ibex]

i don't even mind stealth on a veteran, it's more than zealot is more of a frontline melee class with a million ways to be unkillable and do good damage. i'm not expecting the veteran to be up front but when a zealot is up front and i position behind them just to have them vanish and glob everything onto me it's just not great

[radiant frigate]

speed scrier's is 20%, so is shroudfield, and zealot default speed is already higher

[nocturne dust]

[orchid ibex]

i started using speed scriers on my gunker just because i like to feel real fast sometimes, good use of a point i think

[nocturne dust]

It really should be bundled with the toughness node

[orchid ibex]

i agree there. it's not really enough, more of an "i have an extra point and this seems fun" pick

[prime elk]

This is the way

[clear heath]

speed scriers feels so good

[orchid ibex]

i've been using the las pistol lately but it feels way underpowered compared to running the recon. any idea what i'm doing wrong or is it just how the weapon is?

damage and ammo economy haven't felt great. i barely play gunker though, so i'm probably just not playing well yet either.

[radiant frigate]

laspistol only does big number on headshot or crit

reconlas does pretty much the same damage wherever

[orchid ibex]

that makes sense, thanks

i've been trying to branch out though because it feels like with the recon i can basically leave my talent tree blank and still do well. the gun is just very strong.

[exotic crane]

Can somehow explain to me how Smyker does damage?

I am trying it in the grinder and it's almost nothing

I'm doing venting shriek with 6 stacks of soulblaze and it's a 27 damage dot

[orchid ibex]

are you using ep?

[exotic crane]

yes

[prime elk]

I think it’s just red stimm EP and smite 🤔

[exotic crane]

I mean smite okay, it stuns, but soulblaze i just don't get

[prime elk]

It takes a while but you’re usually hitting an entire elite wave at once so the damage stacks faster than you’d expect

[orchid ibex]

yeah the elite kills on top of your shriek are adding stacks

[radiant frigate]

eepy smite shriek is a combo that will singlehandedly clear entire rooms

[prime elk]

Oh yes and of course shriek

[exotic crane]

so very reliant on killing elites then

does it have a limit on targets?

[strong gulch]

Get a stack of EP, cast charged / RMB smite (particularly at a group of man sized elites), shriek at 85% peril for creeping flames and extend the cast (this hits rager BPs without ER), elites die and proc PC. You get EP stacks back and CDR from Psyk Aura.

EP smite is more or less a shriek and PC enabler that also shuts down AI. It gets stronger with enemy density. Killing 1 or 50 ragers takes a similar amount of time.

Here's videos of ep smite in action. #psyker-class message

[orchid ibex]

What an answer

[fringe garden]

I just can't bring myself to play pure smyker. I'll take smite, even EP sometimes, but I just can't smite for the whole match.

[kindred edge]

If I'm running EP Smite I mostly pretend I don't have a blitz. It only comes out if shit hits the fan. Staves are strong enough that it's mostly not a problem.

[fringe garden]

Exactly

I think it's the correct strategic choice for that matter

[exotic crane]

The flamer-like staff is also good for hordes I take it?

[fringe garden]

Better to run around sniping this and that with voidstrike most of the time

[kindred edge]

I get a lot less people complaining about Smite that way at least lol

[fringe garden]

Yes, flame staff trivializes hordes. Even some mixed hordes

[kindred edge]

Phenomenally so, yes

[orchid ibex]

I don't run it because it doesn't tickle my brain like random kf pops or little flying crayons do. And I'm more of a staff person.

[fringe garden]

Flame staff is also solid boss DPS

[kindred edge]

Most of my psyker builds are BB/KF. I just can't make myself rely on Assail for some reason, and Smiting all game is mind-numbingly boring

[late sphinx]

I was watching tanner watch some pros and they were melting bosses in 7 seconds with the flame staff. I dont know what to think anymore about anything in darktide

[orchid ibex]

I do assail on voidstrike or gun, it can clear spaced out chaff

[late sphinx]

it wasnt even prolonged frame, they were just puffing it. And it melted

[fringe garden]

Seems like voidstrike would be just as effective as Assail in similar situations

[kindred edge]

Yeah, you build stacks while the target is brittle or you have Uncanny Strike up

[fringe garden]

Or even more effective, really

[orchid ibex]

I find it easier to throw out a few assail when stuff is spaced out

[kindred edge]

I usually just M1 in those cases 🤷

[fringe garden]

I usually take smite with voidstrike because Voidstrike is better at what the other two blitzes do

[orchid ibex]

Yeah, that works too

[fringe garden]

Voids only real weakness is when you're surrounded from multiple angles

[orchid ibex]

It seems more useful than bb/kf on voidstrike still

[kindred edge]

If I could just run vet frag grenades on my psyker I'd take that like 4/5 times

[orchid ibex]

I'll take kraks

[kindred edge]

So effective to just drop a shredder at your feet if things get sticky

[left basin]

darktide is a first person coop shooter

[kindred edge]

... Yes?

[orchid ibex]

They're right

[nocturne dust]

Then leave your talent tree blank

Do it.

[orchid ibex]

fine. i will.

uhh, later though

[late sapphire]

New difficulty will be fun

And definitely not dead like weaves

[clear heath]

i will take literally any new content

fatshark's lack of updates have conditioned me to accept anything

[late sphinx]

Laughs in TF2

[late sapphire]

I can't wait to queue with my autistic buddy who will be level 40 within a day after the update drops to reach level 40 instantly

[zinc phoenix]

That’s when you get to stabbin

And assailin

[haughty star]

i

https://tenor.com/view/its-time-to-stop-stop-clock-time-gif-5001372

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-touch-grass-alphabet-soup-meme-gif-25868068

[potent echo]

Wtf havoc

[potent echo]

Those are rookie numbers

[nocturne dust]

Total hours sure, hours in 2 weeks? Ew

[potent echo]

Ah yes can't wait for order level 40 that is darkness with fog snipers with tox gas

I'm sure that's very fun fatshark

[nocturne dust]

with nurgle-blessed

[potent echo]

And mostly ranged

No ammo pickup

[nocturne dust]

I mean at some point the planet is a lost cause

[nocturne dust]

"Crushers, bulwarks, and ranged enemies only"

[split lance]

gyat damn

full time job

im so happy a ranked system is coming out

gonna be

siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiick

[nocturne dust]

eh

I expect it will be toxic and/or abandoned

[split lance]

perfect

im toxic

its fitting

[split lance]

ive played competitive games my whole life

[spice violet]

Must at least be a triplet then

[potent echo]

It's not a real ranked system though

Doesn't pit you against other players

https://store.steampowered.com/sale/gamerecording?l=english

Is this new

The built in editor is kinda cool

[prime elk]

oh has this been released?

need to try

[late sapphire]

You only need 1 guy at max rank to insta boost up

[silent wigeon]

what do people like to run for voidblast?

[jovial juniper]

Nexus Blazing

[silent wigeon]

can voidblast m2 crit?

[jovial juniper]

Then flak and and whatever

Yes

[silent wigeon]

cool cool

[jovial juniper]

The Surge blessing doesn't work on M2 though

[dusk void]

Vet kept spamming the tag key. Says he can't help it. Pretty sure you can change the button mashup

[analog agate]

I auto leave those games now. My block list is actually full from the people who refused to turn it off. Now I just quit

[prime elk]

that shit is so obnoxious lol

[slate oasis]

Similarly obnoxious to when people spam pings on the way forward or elevator locations

like oh sorry I spent an additional 8 seconds grabbing a med/ammo crate, how will you ever recover from having to wait so terribly long

[tight saddle]

I usually get people to stop by slowly creeping towards it when they're obsessively spamming it. I don't mind when they place a ping signaling they're ready to move on, but when it's spammed is annoying.

[rotund fable]

Today I joined a random auric damnation with 3 other psykers, and we all had different staffs.

and all 4 of us were packing bubble shield.

[lofty marsh]

That sounds deeply unoptimized. And very funny

[strong gulch]

When all 4 psykers have shriek and PC. Gobal SB cap holding them back. 🥲

[lofty marsh]

I'm so ready for the greater Psyker community to discover Surge Surge

Actually goddamn hilarious

and really good

[rotund fable]

I was using a Voidstrike DD build that just turns me into a bowlingball dispenser/artillery cannon.

[strong gulch]

We know about m1 surge.

Real surge surge can never be. 😭

[lofty marsh]

Ah, I see just about no one running it in my matches

Also, people swap as to not have 2 of them, which seems weird because it synergizes with itself really well

[rotund fable]

Most of the Surge users I see run Flurry and Nexus and rarely use the m1's...

[strong gulch]

To be fair, we meaning "here on discord" probably doesn't qualify as the greater psyker community. lol

[lofty marsh]

Fair

[prime elk]

they discovered it, and it's cancer

[lofty marsh]

How so?

[prime elk]

actively makes the game incredibly boring for everyone else

while taking no effort whatsoever to play

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, people don't run it because it's boring

[lofty marsh]

Play harder content lmao. It's strong for sure, but it's no stronger than Blaze Away Scrier's Inferno

[prime elk]

me looking for the gamemode harder than auric maelstrom

https://tenor.com/view/looking-through-binoculars-brandon-the-ms-pat-show-finding-someone-looking-around-gif-7525923395731616534

and no, it's stronger

[lofty marsh]

Just did an AM, left with a mil damage, but the rest of the team had a total of 2 mil.

Point being, that there's plenty to be done when it's played by a teammate.

[prime elk]

ah you're the one playing m1 psyker. that makes sense

[lofty marsh]

Nothing in this game except for melee is a skill check.

[lofty marsh]

lmao

[prime elk]

enjoy the cheese build while it lasts.

knowing fatshart, they might never fix it though

[lofty marsh]

Agree to disagree I guess. But it's mechanically interesting with some different setups, so I'm glad it's around

[strong gulch]

A lot of people lobby dodge or leave a game when the see an m1 spammer.

[lofty marsh]

I've yet to see it.

[jaunty current]

are you guys talking about smite psyker?

[strong gulch]

A lot of people also use a macro.

Nope. Worse.

But also m1 spam can be funny.

[lofty marsh]

That macro is straight cheating imo

[jovial juniper]

Worse

[lofty marsh]

Literally triples your fire rate

[jaunty current]

i like smite psyker :( i like charging m2 and stopping a horde so my team can smack em

[runic juniper]

idk why fatshark made the m2 quell cancels the default but didnt touch m1 at all

or the blitz either

[lofty marsh]

Smite psyker CAN do damage, but you have to build for exclusively that, to the detriment of the other aspects of your buiold

[jaunty current]

no not damage smite

just hold the horde for your team to kill them

or you can be funny and throw the horde off a ledge

[strong gulch]

Before surge m1 spam after the updated, you could still be a menace with LMB spam and get top damage without trying to hard.

I am honestly suprised that it got buffed and that purg/ infero wasn't included with the LMB talent nodes.

[jovial juniper]

[lofty marsh]

It's an acknowledged issue I think.

For whatever that's worth lmao

[runic juniper]

inferno would probably be worse, just a huge boost to single target damage when it already has the best aoe

[rotund fable]

I was told that my void-strike build could use some work.

[jovial juniper]

You can kill that horde faster than your team with a proper smite build 😭

[jaunty current]

i dont want to kill the horde myself

i want to work with my team

[lofty marsh]

Perilous combust with wildfire seems like a strange choice

[nocturne dust]

yeah it could

[strong gulch]

I haven't check the forums. I probably should, OR I will immediately forget.

Thanks for the heads up either way.

[nocturne dust]

It's not, more fire good

[runic juniper]

wild fire and brainburst are really the only arguabley 'eh' talent takes, rest of the tree is fine

[split lance]

dont you ever talk shit bout my bbg wildfire

[lofty marsh]

Wildfire has a LOT of quirks

[nocturne dust]

The two points for Empyric Shock are

It's voidstrike, you don't use lmb on voidstrike

[lofty marsh]

like, it straight up doesn't fucking work if they have 2 or less stacks

[split lance]

then do more stacks

press f

kill an elite

[lofty marsh]

It's a shield build

[split lance]

hit a crit

[runic juniper]

i also dont take nexus or extra crit on voidstrike because the crit headshot talent seems to give more than enough to make up for those

[lofty marsh]

Read the chat @split lance

[split lance]

who uses shield buildss in 2024 they get popped by getting breathed on

[split lance]

no

[jaunty current]

its not about just killing the horde fast, its about holding them so my team gets to kill them and the involved teamwork

[split lance]

this isnt ow2, being a support player is more harm than good

[rotund fable]

My reasoning is that on the (weirdly common) occasion where my team cant handle monsters (90% of my games are quickplay with randoms), rapid fire lmb and then charged balls does solid damage.

[lofty marsh]

Depends on the form of support

[jaunty current]

shut up tren go play csgo or something

[lofty marsh]

A zealot popping relic every 15-20 is crazy good, even if it slows the mission a bit

[split lance]

i smurf your elo, if ur gonna talk trash @ me like a man

[wind spruce]

Yeah wildfire with only PC to fuel it is useless

[nocturne dust]

This is true

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

[lofty marsh]

Smite tends to actually make killing horders slower

because people in darktide are actual blenders

[jaunty current]

i play smite and bubble shield because it is fun

[lofty marsh]

and now the meat isn't falling into the blades

[strong gulch]

Instead of cara on your sword, you can put unyielding and melee the boss.

[split lance]

smite bubble is like the worst synergy possible

shriek smite is used bc you get infinite smite

[jaunty current]

well youre allowed to be wrong

[split lance]

yeah and ur doing a lot of that

wait wait i gotta ask

[runic juniper]

yeah you dont take voidstrike to do m1 but that doesnt mean its not worth using them, especially without warp flurry it takes a while to charge an attack vs the instant m1 that still has insane damage

[jaunty current]

bubble shield blocks beast of nurgle vomit

[split lance]

are you doing like

heresy

[jovial juniper]

Except he isn't

Smite and bubble is a bad combo

[jaunty current]

i play normal damnation

[wind spruce]

You could also just drop maniacs off it since you have DD

[split lance]

i cant remember last time (besides train) that bubble wasnt popped instantly

[split lance]

ah makes sense

[jovial juniper]

Still a bad combo

[wind spruce]

You mean that boss attack that's already easy to void? Seems low priority

[split lance]

normal damn is doable assail only level 9

[jaunty current]

i dont like to play aurics because all ive gotten is sweats and bad sports

[lofty marsh]

Smite bubble shield is harmful to team flow because it jams up the killing of hordes, AND it encourages the team to linger when they should push

[rotund fable]

The game loves to throw me into games and situations where that is not always an option, but your suggestion is noted.

[strong gulch]

Play something that you find fun. ☑️

That is different than rationalizing a build combos as good tho. Builds can just be fun.

[jovial juniper]

Oh well
Just remember to dodge yeah

Have fun out there

[split lance]

no

[wind spruce]

NO FUN

[strong gulch]

you right 😭

[split lance]

fuck ur fun

[jaunty current]

i enjoy smite and bubble shield

[split lance]

not actually

we wont be in the same game

[wind spruce]

Simp

[lofty marsh]

I gotta wake up in 7 hours. Hope y'all have a good night. Except for you Tren. Ya toxic fuck

[jaunty current]

oh no what a loss

[split lance]

for who

[split lance]

im in ur head rent free

you gotta live with that now

[wind spruce]

Literally everyone

[split lance]

i only simp for atlussy

[runic juniper]

take a bomber resist curio perk. you die to 2 bursters without an hp curio at least, Idk if a bomber resist perk will be enough to turn that into 3 but its better than nothing

[wind spruce]

Understandable

[strong gulch]

Take his damage and puzzles.

[split lance]

i GAP him in damage

in once human

[wind spruce]

Bomber resistance doesn't effect pox bursters

[split lance]

sometimes on darktide

but we havent played in 2 weeks

excited for the ranked to come out

[strong gulch]

I haven't been playing much either tbh.

[split lance]

it got pretty stale ngl

[rotund fable]

Me when I realize i clicked a second toughness curio instead of max HP...
🤦‍♂️

[split lance]

no difficulty increase

[wind spruce]

I haven't played in almost a month 😢

[split lance]

no new maps

besides train but with the way we ran through it

[split lance]

i love you

[wind spruce]

Ran through it like you ran through atlussy

[split lance]

hes still getting ran through

in like 20min ima run through him again

[jaunty current]

give that one more difficult battles to fight

auric maelstrom train, perhaps?

[split lance]

what?

[jaunty current]

referring to this

[split lance]

ive never seen it as a mael but thatd be awesome

[jaunty current]

could be funny

[split lance]

maels got kinda boring

then we started doing em as a duo

and that was fun

but then it wasnt as fun as just doing other games

[jaunty current]

suffering from being too good at the video game

[split lance]

i dont even have that many hours on here

[rotund fable]

has anyone ever seen a combination of "Mostly meele" and "monsterous specialist"? Theoretically it might be a funny run. (turn the corner to see a weakened plague ogryn with an actual plague ogryn and a "Yes" number of crushers).

[jovial juniper]

FS probably took Rolling Steel out of Maelstrom rotation
Some folks got their ASS by queueing for that map

[split lance]

oh

[jaunty current]

Five. Hundred. Crushers.

[split lance]

i got one of em for queueing that map but bc it was funny

[jovial juniper]

Because it was literally a normal train mission

[split lance]

the 10 missions one

[jovial juniper]

💀

[split lance]

i got doing train

but tbf like 5 missions were maels

[strong gulch]

Oh yeah lol

[split lance]

i got ass and mael at the same time

actually all 3

i got at the same time

atlus ttried throwing my 10th game

and i had to lock in

[zinc phoenix]

I wish the game gave us the option of wearing lead boots and doing pull ups to avoid the ever present thread of sudden ledge death

[split lance]

bro theres no fucking wau

that these motherfuckers

cant do pulllups

no fucking way

its just impossible

[jaunty current]

youre a psyker just dream yourself back onto the floor

[split lance]

literally

[jaunty current]

make the bubble shield a trampoline

[split lance]

the bubble shield actually does get popped really fast tho

[jaunty current]

ive never experienced it getting popped

even in aurics

[silver echo]

It only really happens when there's like 10 gunners shooting at it

[runic juniper]

its been buffed multiple times and has atleast a 6 second window where it cant pop after placement

[split lance]

really?

[jaunty current]

never

[split lance]

in auric maels i see em get melted

[runic juniper]

only happens if you place it infront of that many gunners and you just let them shoot it

[jaunty current]

kill the gunners then?

where teammates?

thats what your teammates are for

you hold the horde with smite while your shield is active so that your team can shoot the gunners

[split lance]

have you ever done auric maels?

enemies dont usually stop coming

[jaunty current]

once or twice

i dont like to unless i have to

[split lance]

i pretty much only do maels

take a bubble

and its insta popped

[silver echo]

are you doing the mostly ranged mael?

cause then sure

[split lance]

i do all maels

whatevers up

[jaunty current]

ive never seen the bubble shield forcibly popped

[runic juniper]

yeah thats the only real modifier where theres consistently enough gunners to constantly cuck your shield

[analog agate]

This was a mael I did two days ago with 3 (yes, 3) bubble psykers

[silver echo]

I would say it happens to at most 5% of my domes, and of that at least half still live for 90% of the normal duration

[split lance]

how long did this take

my avg mael is like 20min

[analog agate]

30 min or so

[split lance]

makes sense

wait

that came out wrong

[analog agate]

My avg when I’m not dragging 3 people is about 25

[silver echo]

I mean it does make sense thats a ton of lost dps on bubbles

[split lance]

only time maels have taken me long time is duos

[jaunty current]

do you... play auric maels without teammates?

[split lance]

sometimes

i have the solo mod

if i have teammates we do em in like 15 min

[jaunty current]

well yeah the shields not gonna work for you, its a support thing

[silver echo]

yea shield is not good for true solo/duo

scriers is so omega busted atm idk why you would take anything else as psyker in duos

[runic juniper]

the only rando match I had that was below 25 minutes was a regular heresy for the zealot penance back when you didnt need a private game for it

[jaunty current]

i play with full strike teams, mostly randoms, i use the shield because i want to work with my strike teams

[split lance]

its not the best in auric

when i do pubs

and someone runs it

it gets poped more often than not

[silver echo]

I feel like then they either wildly underuse it and just have terrible placing

[jaunty current]

also, the other teammates(veteran) should be shooting the stuff thats popping the shield

[split lance]

bubble is rare to see

[split lance]

idk who told you that

but

psyker is most op

can do every role all at once and better

[silver echo]

ehh

VoC is truly on another level atm

[jaunty current]

jack of all trades, not very tanky

[silver echo]

damage wise psyker is better tho

[jaunty current]

if youre not absolutely godlike at dodging everything on the face of atoma all at once, you need other teammates

[split lance]

psyker has iirc 5 talents all dedicated to refilling toughness

we literally have unlimited toughness regen

[jaunty current]

3 crusher overhead

[split lance]

surge + dodge

ez

[jaunty current]

what is surge

[split lance]

electro staff

[jaunty current]

and how did this corner get here

[silver echo]

electrokinesis

[split lance]

the best staff

[runic juniper]

its not that hard you just spam dodge when in melee range and then dodge+slide when you need the extra length to not get netted

[jaunty current]

oh yeah staffs are a thing that exist

[runic juniper]

lag compensation will do the rest for you by giving you iframes lol

[split lance]

all staffs are OP but theres a hierarchy

and surge is on top

[jaunty current]

this is great until (random terrain piece i got stuck on by .5 nanometers)

[zinc phoenix]

Bubble shield is good in missions where the enemies are mostly melee because it gives you absolutely ridiculous toughness regen

But if there are literally any gunners it’s donezo

And then you don’t get unlimited toughness

[silver echo]

bubble shields are good in any mission in qp because it's a 30 second turn off the most dangerous specials button on a 35 second timer

[zinc phoenix]

Like “I can just ignore ER toughness penalty” unlimited

[jaunty current]

this is a good reason to like them

[zinc phoenix]

Shriek is strictly superior tho

[runic juniper]

Never had that except with enemies physically getting in the way which is the real challenge, if there is map geometry in the way then its usually something you can vault over to gain distance. if your an ogryn who cant vault on certain heights it makes sense though

[silver echo]

god I hate trying to vault on ogryn

[runic juniper]

yeah its the worst

[silver echo]

I still can't do it consistently at level 150

[runic juniper]

those trains on ascension riser suck ass

[zinc phoenix]

Shriek also disables all specials while killing everything

And also makes all crushers etc go away

[silver echo]

not if the specials spawn when shriek is on CD

[zinc phoenix]

And also removes the horde

[jaunty current]

i like smite + shield because i can stop almost everything and let my team whale on it. shield stops beast of nurg, trappers, gunners, flamers, bombers to an extent, snipers, and smite can stop almost everything else(not including daemonhost, plague ogryn, or chaos spawn)

[silver echo]

plus it's direction limited on which specials to delete

[zinc phoenix]

Well that’s why it’s on the path where you can stack multiple talents with CDR, take warp charges for even more CDR and can take CDR on your curios

[split lance]

if you run shriek smite you get infinite smite and kill everything

[jaunty current]

you get infinite smite A n y w a y

[zinc phoenix]

But you also kill more

Like a lot more

[jaunty current]

regardless of shriek

let your team do it for you

[zinc phoenix]

Why

[jaunty current]

because i enjoy teamwork

[zinc phoenix]

This is a game about killing everything as fast as possible

[runic juniper]

scriers gaze infinite smite is funnier imo, you just dont get soulblaze which is like half your damage lol

[split lance]

is bros avg mission time like 45min??

[zinc phoenix]

If you choose to make yourself do substantially less damage to support your team you’re actively hurting them. Its suck but true

[silver echo]

I like EP smite scriers

[zinc phoenix]

Especially because you can’t guarantee you won’t end up with multiple cheerleaders on the team

[split lance]

yeah this really really isnt the game to want to be a support player

its not ow2

[zinc phoenix]

If everyone on a team is support and no one does damage the team just dies

[silver echo]

does get boring pretty quick but it'll still do very competitive damage

[zinc phoenix]

You’d do way more switching from bubble to shriek

[runic juniper]

also yeah scriers lets you do the same thing as smite except instead of freezing every enemy you kill them instead

[jaunty current]

i still do acceptable damage without shriek

[zinc phoenix]

What is acceptable?

[silver echo]

I don't run bubble smite

[jaunty current]

i can kill a horde alone on non aurics which is what i mostly play

[zinc phoenix]

Ok well if you’re not playing aurics you can do whatever

It doesn’t matter

[jaunty current]

because i dont enjoy aurics

[silver echo]

top damage but not by much, or second damage only off a little

[split lance]

yup

regular mission just dont have enemies

you have to actively try to fail

[jaunty current]

i play regular damnations or maels

[zinc phoenix]

Well in fairness the teammates sure do

[silver echo]

yea regular damn feels empty after doing auric for a while

[runic juniper]

hi intense is just normal

[silver echo]

yea

[jaunty current]

aurics just arent my skill level to have fun in

[zinc phoenix]

I wish the game went back to a design where individual enemies were extremely lethal and there aren’t many of them with a higher emphasis on spook

All the dialog is still centered around that design

“Oh no a crusher”

[silver echo]

tbh I kinda wish they would just swap out pox gas for nurgle blessing on the auric board

since gas is a snooze fest as well

[jaunty current]

heres 25 gunners in an area with literally 0 cover, have fun!

[zinc phoenix]

Totally manageable if you do damage 🤷‍♀️

[jaunty current]

theyre over there

and behind you

and around that corner

because thats surely fun

[tired estuary]

it is when you can kill them

[runic juniper]

I just did a mostly ranged auric marlstrom like 3 hours ago as a scriers psyker, no situation would a shield really of suited me for actually blocking bullets

even though every corner rounded was 5+ gunners

[mossy oyster]

posting it twice for the actual soykers this time

[runic juniper]

the only time i actually got gunned down was when I was in melee range and the gunners wouldnt get staggered because fatshark decided that I should kms

[silver echo]

now that's a classic

same with the 10 gunners perfectly overlapping

[zinc phoenix]

I misplay sometimes and go in for melee when I should back and withdraw

[runic juniper]

at least the 10 gunners burst into a super heated ball of soulflame when 1 dies

[zinc phoenix]

And then there’s more dudes than I expect just out of view

Honestly gunners aren’t much of a threat tho, it’s the specials that get you

[jaunty current]

im referring to the one room in the excise vault mission just before the final room

where theres absolutely no cover, i always get a horde there, and it always has hella gunners

[runic juniper]

sometimes id take getting netted over a gunner that decided its going to shoot me forever lol

[zinc phoenix]

Well I generally play with line of sight in mind so I don’t generally fear gunners because I keep a wall between them and me or murder them before they can spool up 😂

[runic juniper]

snipers maybe? never had gunner issues there though

[jaunty current]

also the teams i get are like hurrr durr imma stand in this open room and get shot instead of getting in the checkpoint

[silver echo]

honestly outside of water treatment gunners aren't too bad

[jaunty current]

maybe not the final room but its a drop down into a room with two big button activated doors and a checkpoint

[zinc phoenix]

that’s why support doesn’t work

You can’t trust your teammates to make good decisions or be competent

So the best way to support them is to kill everything before it can kill them

[jaunty current]

it seems to only be that map though

other teams on other maps work well with others

[runic juniper]

I dont want to think about water treatment right now

[jaunty current]

you should think about water treatment

[silver echo]

the 1000 gunners all along the small bridge by the medicae/giant statue have killed so many runs

[jaunty current]

Five. Hundred. Gunners.

wouldnt be so bad with a bubble shield and a couple good bolt pistol vets ;)

[silver echo]

bolt pistol hits so many 1 shot breakpoints on vet on top of the aoe buff it's so good

[jaunty current]

commissar build is based

voc, bolt pistol, chainsword, profit

[zinc phoenix]

That’s not support tho 😂

[jaunty current]

voc is support

[silver echo]

🤔 does point blank buff the range things get lit on fire by perilous or increase the range of smite

[runic juniper]

You dont need pixels you just need sound

[jaunty current]

yk the shield has a secondary mode that could help you take aggro while your team uses their ranged implements on the snipers

:)

[runic juniper]

definitely not smite, and I'm very doubtful on shriek or combustion

[potent echo]

Isn't point blank crit chance

[silver echo]

no it's the aoe blessing on the bolt pistol

oh wait

yes it is

[potent echo]

[silver echo]

lethal prox is the thing

[jaunty current]

i dont rember what i put on my bolt pistol

[runic juniper]

Snipers aint the only thing in there and I'm not going to take forever planting my shield and have them target me just to disable them for a few seconds

[silver echo]

yea it does not boost shriek range

[runic juniper]

doubtful since it isn't like an actual explosion, and definitely not smite

if you're able to confirm combustion then maybe shriek too?

[silver echo]

tbh I don't know the normal combustion max range anyways

[runic juniper]

it would be a creature spawner test for sure

[jaunty current]

well do what that guy in ogryn chat just did

[runic juniper]

I bet this is the guy

[silver echo]

missing a kickback shot is pretty funny ngl

[runic juniper]

controller moment

cant really blame a dad gamer though

[silver echo]

ok I just tested and lethal prox does not increase perilous range

[zinc phoenix]

As a dad we don’t all use controllers 😆

I can’t, they hurt my thumbs something fierce

[runic juniper]

specifically he was on xbox

[silver echo]

guess I'll stick to deadly accurate for my bp on psyker

[jaunty current]

who would want to use a controller for darktide?

oh he was on console lol imagine

[zinc phoenix]

Oh my god the cod kids are old enough to have children now

😱

[jaunty current]

you assume they are able to find women that can tolerate them

[runic juniper]

I was born within months of 9/11 so I can see that lol

[zinc phoenix]

“Honey, it’s time for your daily teabagging!”

“Yes dear”

[runic juniper]

hell, black ops 3 was released in 2015, and that's relatively late in the xbox cod lobby era. preteens playing that at the time would be in their 20s

[runic juniper]

it's nice to know that explosion aoe is different from regular aoe in that regard, incase new stuff pops up like if we get a havoc modifier that is just a negative version of lethal proximity

I don't have high hopes for the balancing of those negative modifiers if they're going to be different stat adjustments. the balance on our equipment perks is already kinda dumb in some places. imagine it giving enemies with flak armor a 25% damage reduction buff instead of making sprint cost .1 more stamina per second

[silver echo]

gonna be honest I kinda feel like havok is gonna be winds of magic 2 the moment they said you can't qp into it

plus it doesn't even show up on the mission board

[runic juniper]

It's not gated by needing specific weave missions and it's not shittily priced dlc locked so there's better odds

Considering how fast rodin and rinda died in terms of matchmaking though lol

[silver echo]

even just needing to open the menu and use party finder will kill at least 75% of the pop after a month

[runic juniper]

fo shor

[silver echo]

twins not being in a normal mission is pretty disappointing tbh

[runic juniper]

if it was like a vt2 quickplay where it put you into the hub and let you choose your class after having the chance to interact with teammates I think it would work.

fatshark understands that making a cbt difficulty gamemode and having you matchmake with randos in it would suck, but the way the matchmaking works is a huge reason why randoms suck so bad. I really think an improved quickplay and lobby system would have been way better than a party finder even for this

[runic juniper]

I'm kinda glad it isn't like Enchanter's Lair where it's the longest mission in the game topped off with a bossfight you're going to wipe to going in blind

[silver echo]

bro fuck that map I just insta leave it if I get it lol

[runic juniper]

Yeah, a full twins mission would still have to be shorter than a regular mission

[silver echo]

I think they could have been toned down to be fine as the end of a normal style mission tbh or even as a random spawn like they did for a while

if the twins just had a chance to replace all of the scripted boss fights I think it would be pretty sick tbh

[runic juniper]

best place to fit them is replacing the torrent assassination target. that arena is way easier than the chasm terminus assassination

[silver echo]

yea the prison assassinate is so easy

the airlock leading up to that end elevator is like 5x as hard as the boss

[runic juniper]

I just remembered how old monstrous specials spawned full health monsters and now im hoping havoc adds those back

[silver echo]

tbh if havok has the twins then it won't die

[runic juniper]

Nah weaves had funny stuff like that lol

we've already had plenty of twins roaming around tertium anyways. interesting but I doubt enticing enough unless it's actually new content

[silver echo]

oh sorry no I meant if it had vt2 twins

[runic juniper]

oh yeah we need those and bolts of change ffs

[silver echo]

isn't pox gas kinda bolts

[runic juniper]

without the funny factor yeah. I want a dormant poxwalker horde to suddenly shift into 30 trappers

[fierce lynx]

ngl. After a day of work I pop on verm to do some cata and destress and If I see Enchanters I just jump off. I am not doing that

I genuinely want to see fatshark do that mission on cata on stream without 3 boss killers

Missions that are built like that seem very eh to be in quickplay pool

[runic juniper]

dark omens and the first mission of drachenfels too, something something harvest. too long with a lot of particularly annoying things about them at the same time

honestly darktide missions that arent rolling steel are perfect length

[silver echo]

yea the intro to drac is even worse at least with randoms

old haunts

[fierce lynx]

its not that bad

[runic juniper]

yeah that's why im thinking harvest

[silver echo]

90% chance everyone just dies to the monks when trying to get garg heads

[runic juniper]

that's the least evil one, but it's still way too long imo

[runic juniper]

that's the only real hiccup thankfully besides the church exit sometimes

Path and tower of treachery weren't bad though

[fierce lynx]

This game is messing with me so bad. I just hit first lvl 30 yesterday but I have around 1.4k hours on verm

[silver echo]

tbh I do have a lots less vt2 play for a bunch of reasons so I mainly just do legend runs and the randoms in that are not going to to live vs 2 plague monks on their ass

[fierce lynx]

my muscle memory is workign againts me sometimes

its funny

[nocturne dust]

Best part of legend difficulty is the ability to instantly bonk most elites with Grail Knight and a light attack from the good ole hammer

[potent echo]

Legend difficulty

[runic juniper]

hey look man, shit is evil sometimes

[fierce lynx]

clearly a skill issue

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/friends-niel-patrick-harris-weak-pathetic-sorry-gif-9569033

[latent mauve]

Legend is just auric high shock

[nocturne dust]

VT2 didn't mesh with my brain as well as Darktide does. I might be able to play Cataclysm with enough practice but I don't think I'd enjoy it at that point.

[silver echo]

tbh I just can't stand temp hp, FF damage, and no auto swing kills my wrists playing it for long

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, temp hp and FF are mechanics I don't enjoy

[strong gulch]

I liked Legend. It was the sweet spot of difficulty without super sweating it out. I often played with bots.

[nocturne dust]

Playing Legend with the improved modded bots was funny

They were actually useful and good

[strong gulch]

Fookin valid. When a game doesn't mesh and there's brain friction, it sucks.

[latent mauve]

I want modded realm for dt

[strong gulch]

I never once considered mods for some reason. Then a switch got flipped in DT and I just wanted so many of them.

[latent mauve]

Just so I can fuck off and play any mission I want to

[nocturne dust]

Bro, I don't think there's a PvE game I don't consider mods on

I'm crazy, I mod my mods

[nocturne dust]

It's coming in Darktide 2: Return of the Bugs

[latent mauve]

I have made 30 debugging mods

[potent echo]

I hope havoc missions let you choose your modifiers in some way though

[latent mauve]

It’s coming when a certain modder finishes making local host darktide

[nocturne dust]

Knowing Fatshark, I will have a healthy amount of doubt about such a thing happening

[latent mauve]

No comment

[nocturne dust]

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[strong gulch]

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[fierce lynx]

I really liked hypertwitch legend. Like 5/15. Basically every 20 seconds a random event like a boss or a patrol or 20 specials. Legend kept them not spongy but quantity was massive

My record was 37 bosses in 1 game I think

[strong gulch]

Das a lot. I watched a few twitch streams with that.

Also congrats on red role.

[fierce lynx]

what did I do?

[quartz barn]

Exist

[brazen rampart]

Talk enough and you get the convict role, which comes with image and embed perms.

[late sapphire]

Cataclysm is pretty ok but I at least didn't enjoy it much

Only played cata for the frames

[radiant frigate]

it is kind of funny how DT now has ragers (ok) and ragers (world ender)

just like vt2

[exotic crane]

can the inferno staff crit?

[steep coral]

Why do i feel so weak as Psyker after playing as a vet? I am using a good inferno build but it seems that i dont have the tools to deal with any situation. As a Veteran i have an answer to every problem.

Am i doing smth wrong or Psyker is way weaker then the rest os the classes?

[ashen trellis]

there's no oh shit button that's why it feels like that

[proper osprey]

Yes it actually works best with crit

[ashen trellis]

assail build with a gun kinda covers like most of weaknesses in my opinion

[proper osprey]

Warp nexus and blaze away is the best way to build it

[echo root]

Post talents + weapon

[steep coral]

here

[echo root]

Drop crit dmg for flak since fire/soulblaze always does dmg to the chest area.

Other than that it looks correct, keep in mind soulblaze from Purgatus caps at 15. Venting Shriek Soulblaze does not care about this cap, meaning you can get to 21 stacks on tanky mobs.

Drop the 5% crit node for the talent that lets you proc Brain Burst with purgatus attacks

[steep coral]

so i dont need Crit and crit damage on the staff right? What should i get?

[echo root]

The damage aura sucks, get the 10% cooldown aura

[echo root]

crit chance + flak

Either of these, I usually play with the last one in maelstrom since you almost always have a special / elite kill for insane toughness regen.

I take the coherency aura for as many psykenetic aura procs as possible over the quelling node, but that's not set in stone.

[steep coral]

Thank you for the info!

[echo root]

Put 4% cooldown on all your curios as well, spam Venting Shriek as much as possible. Try to be closer to 80% peril when using it.

86% for 6 stacks

[exotic crane]

Since fatshark is very inconsistent with wording, what exactly does the -30% toughness replenished affect?

coherency regen or talents or both?

[uncut sinew]

both

[echo root]

Bot as Tuna said, it's just a straight multiplier on toughness

It's called glass cannon as well

[paper loom]

i just found a lightning staff 80 in all but quell speed so i upgraded it and it turned it to 66 quell speed and lowered the dmg?

this a bug?

[late yew]

Mutants boosted by tox gas so terrifying lmao

[shrewd comet]

I thought wildfire was kind of terrible since they can't get more than 4 stacks?

[upper sun]

never ask a fatshark dev what they name variables

[echo root]

It's literally only to get more stacks through In Fire Reborn.
Wildfire still refreshes the stacks if the target has more than 4 stacks and there are no legal targets to set on fire.

[digital hill]

Curio stats: ability, gunner resist, ??

[upper sun]

the best options for psyker are toughness ability hp/gunner/sniper aaand maybe sprint in that order

imo go toughness/ability and for the last 3 perks check what you struggle with the most and get resistance to that

[quartz barn]

Youll get the most use out of gunner res

Sniper res is nice and all but you shouldnt get hit by them anyway, same woth bursters / corruption resist

[upper sun]

idk about this one boss

ive never had issues with gunners on psyker

theyre more of an ogryn/zealot problem

[quartz barn]

Ye but if you get beamed you almost always instadie without resists

[upper sun]

that has only happened to me once

and it was shotgunners

[quartz barn]

But true really depends on your setup

[upper sun]

yeah i dont do melee

unless its a hoard or a crusher or something

im not gonna dive elites on psyker

so yeah just build for your playstyle

[quartz barn]

Not even melee oriented, i just play more aggressively

[upper sun]

yeah that too

also would depend on the build

like if i go frontline with purge i have EE and a stupid crit rate so i dont reaaaaly need gunner resist

[quartz barn]

Me when i move like im meleeing but use trauma

Havent played psyk properly for a while now tho

I just occasionally play it when frens want to do AMs that cant really be done with the 360 gear i have on vet lol

[digital hill]

Yeah gunners can light me up once in a while, but when they do they do lol

[echo root]

I do 2 Toughness, 1 3 Stam
3x Ability CD
3x 5% Toughness
2x Stam regen
1x Sprint Efficiency

[digital hill]

I play pretty aggressively, Ive got a similar build as the one shared above.

Yeah I think I need more stam, definitely.

Mostly still new so just figuring it out

[echo root]

Especially with duelling sword. going from 2 stam bars to 5 is HUGE.

Keep in mind 3 Stamina Curios that are 400 gear score or lower do not give 3 stam.

You need 410 or higher score for it to actually give 3 stamina. (It still gives 3 stamina in meat grinder, but only 2 in a real game)

[quartz barn]

Really this is still a thing

[exotic crane]

Duelling sword with peril blocking and stamina is so busted. I can walk into 30 enemies, press block and revive

unless it's a crusher obv

it's so dumb that this bug isn't fixed

[quartz barn]

I still have the old bugged stam curio, but i thought those were exceptions and the whole fake 3 stam bs got fixed

[digital hill]

I use a blaze sword, still useful?

[patent steeple]

yes, depending on your build and ranged weapon. I myself use illisi force sword on lightning staff builds, and deimos force sword on both flamer staff or explosion staff builds.

on non-staff builds, like melee psyker or gun psyker, I use knife.

[digital hill]

ya I usually run flamer/inferno but Im practicing with the ground explosion one now. Already miss the stagger ;_;

[patent steeple]

I like the explosion staff more than the inferno one, because if I get surrounded I just spam the explosion at my feet to kill the surrounding horde. You can't do the same on the inferno, because it doesn't have a 360-degrees radius attack...

[digital hill]

Well.

Kinda. I spin in a circle.

lolol

Works pretty well!

Firespin, shriek.

[echo root]

I had to spend close to 10k of the resource that Melk gives you to gamble for a 410 one. My 400 one still gives 2 stam.

So yeah.....

[potent lava]

aight, which mod to remove the inferno particles, I can't find it

[latent mauve]

I want to see/disable screen effects

[potent lava]

I have disable screen

gotta be I want to see, thanks

"I wanna see" it is

[paper loom]

i mentioned earlier but dont think i got a reply, has anyone experianced upgrading a item changing stats? I bought a gray electro staff earlier it had 80s in all but Quell I upgraded and this changed the stats to 66 quell then lowered the dmg...

[hollow jolt]

its a bug that SHOULD be fixed in the latest hotfix (yesterday)

[paper loom]

it 100% isnt just fucked me out of tons of mats

[hollow jolt]

classic Fatshark

[static needle]

Refinery Delta - auric maelstrom I-II (i am Mailyn-Teknohäxa)

[paper loom]

why so few scriers gaze nodes?

[quartz barn]

Bug that stems from stat rounding

Got fixed yesterday

[clear heath]

"fixed"

[jovial juniper]

You don't need them all

[paper loom]

i got this bug like an hour ago

[quartz barn]

At the same time gear that seemed like it would be maxed, but technically isnt (4×80 + 61 gear) reverted to 370 base, or 490 if fully upgraded so you can truly max it

[paper loom]

arent they pretty powerful tho?

[quartz barn]

Guess they didnt fully fix it then xd

Oh well maybe itll work after the third patch

[paper loom]

yea im not amused lol i wasted the last of my matts on some crappy staff haha i initially thought i had upgraded the wrogn item

[jovial juniper]

Depends on the build
TDR is okay but not needed
Speed is for speed addicts
Unbound is more for blitz/staff spamming

[static needle]

The other ones arent worth it, id rather have +15 toughness than 20% toughness dmg reduction only during scriers, plus, the overloading one is a non issue, even with assail,

just quell ever so slightly and throw one at a time

gotta be a little careful tho but not so hard when u get used to it

[kindred flint]

💯

[static needle]

hehe yea

[kindred flint]

Time to recite the litany of hate 🔨🔥

At level 26 ish which contracts would yall recommend as easiest when doing public 🏃‍♂️s?

I already 3 different specs I am running on my psy

[static needle]

ones that dont involve no one dying

[hollow jolt]

Plasteel, diamantine, kill bosses, and complete missions are what I get

[kindred flint]

🤣

[static needle]

do the ones with scab/Dreg kills

avoid ranged dreg kills tho

that one sucks

and takes forever

[hollow jolt]

If I see "complete 1 mission without anyone dying" I can tolerable that

[kindred flint]

Is grims and scripts ok too?

[hollow jolt]

No, one of the longest to do

[kindred flint]

💯

[static needle]

dont pick up grims, simply not ever worth picking up, ever

[kindred flint]

What should I hope for on reroll?

[static needle]

.

[kindred flint]

Anything besides the above stated?

[static needle]

or dreg/scab kills

nah

these are the only tolerable ones

[kindred flint]

🫡✅