#psyker-class

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mossy oyster
buoyant maple
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What is this purposeful misinformation

brazen rampart
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Ok, but like, psyker typically has 100% uptime with 15 stacks of DD if they're worth their salt, and most psykers edge peril with warp rider and one with the warp.

fiery stratus
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just shootem with ur gun

broken carbon
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also it’s not purposeful

mossy oyster
nocturne dust
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I was joking, but it is problematic how vague that note is.

mossy oyster
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on zealot

buoyant maple
brazen rampart
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Unless you factor in martyrdom, ofc.

mossy oyster
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Im still not sure I agree with that frog

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IJ is pretty strong

brazen rampart
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We can agree to disagree then.

cyan portal
mossy oyster
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ill put it like this

broken carbon
clear heath
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technically not unconditional

nocturne dust
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I don't agree that meleeker can outdamage zealot

mossy oyster
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I dont see a same skill level zealot and a same skill level psyker clearing the same in melee

velvet gate
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Jesus what did I spark?

mossy oyster
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I think zealot takes that everytime

stark crown
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Meow is a spiteful woman that will do anything to get veteran nerfed even though she knows damn well when Zealot gets reworked it’s going to be as braindead

mossy oyster
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fake news

brazen rampart
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I'm just saying I find IJ to typically be at 9-12 stacks when it pops and it thins out as the horde diminishes, but DD just says "here, king, have some insane buffs for 10s and you barely have to do anything to maintain them."

mossy oyster
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fair enough but I dont think thats making meleeker do more than zealot existing with any of their 3 keystones

stark crown
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True

brazen rampart
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Because if you don't take the 10s node, you are insane.

nocturne dust
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Zealot rework: nothing has changed, continue yelling and running at enemies

mossy oyster
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me and higui will make a perfectionist gunker soon

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™️

brazen rampart
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We like it that way.

mossy oyster
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no we dont please make our talents better

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and the tree

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just do something with it

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idc

nocturne dust
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I mean it would be nice

brazen rampart
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We just need our must-haves to not be such a fucking point sink and for bad talents to be good.

mossy oyster
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basically

brazen rampart
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Looking DIRECTLY at second wind when I mention that first issue.

nocturne dust
clear heath
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pathing costs are important and all, but it's going too far when every zealot is taking the exact same horizontal lines

brazen rampart
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That should be like how vet forces you to take one of those passives.

mossy oyster
# stark crown True

I hate to argue about "which class is braindead" because realistically they are all piss fucking easy to learn in not even a day but I always felt psyker was the skill check simply because you can nuke yourself, however fat shark thought it be funny to completely null that mechanic with a talent

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and even then psyker is pretty easy to manage with practice

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its just mastering and being optimal with every single class is different

brazen rampart
broken carbon
mossy oyster
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me when I dont finish reading the entire sentence

nocturne dust
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lmao

mossy oyster
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lee mao

broken carbon
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huh

brazen rampart
mossy oyster
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im complaining they made psyker less hard with crystalline will

broken carbon
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oh

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yeah

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agreed

mossy oyster
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they literally removed the mechanic

brazen rampart
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CW needs to be evaporated.

mossy oyster
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that made it "scary" to play

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its so ass

brazen rampart
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Too many wound psykers running that shit in aurics.

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I see it all the time.

clear heath
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shit node anyways

nocturne dust
broken carbon
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make it deal absurd damage

brazen rampart
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No!

broken carbon
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please

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!

brazen rampart
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I want it fucking gone!

nocturne dust
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MARTYR PSYKER WILL RISE

brazen rampart
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These psykers are so terrible at peril management it makes me sick!

fiery stratus
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change the ogryn bomb to give increased cleave/finesse/rending based on the amount of armored enemies in the aoe

mossy oyster
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I dont want to talk about crystalline will, just look up crystalline will with my user if you want to see me have a jonker moment over it

clear heath
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someone mentioned it doesn't set your health up to the wound if you were lower
so potentially worse than getting downed??? lmao

broken carbon
mossy oyster
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I already explained why its so dog ass in soyker chat

brazen rampart
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It's really simple.
If: peril above 90
Then: don't use warp powers

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But they can't figure it out!

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CW needs to begone!

buoyant maple
orchid ibex
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do people use CW much?

buoyant maple
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I hate how martyrdom is so much tax to be functional

nocturne dust
brazen rampart
nocturne dust
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True psykers hit that hundo for the max damage

brazen rampart
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Bleed for the emperor and restoring faith, I mean.

buoyant maple
broken carbon
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ah ok

buoyant maple
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The point tax is crazy

orchid ibex
brazen rampart
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Also we need another two talents to fix the tree to begin with.

buoyant maple
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I think martyrdom being based off of %health missing would be cooler tho

stark crown
mossy oyster
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Iron will + VoC

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done

stark crown
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If you're running any over toughness shit

brazen rampart
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Left side doesn't have two nodes where there should be at the top and the node before duellist/until death is a standard passive.

stark crown
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should be 0

mossy oyster
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me when I have 0 damage an entire civi as soyker

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then I eat a pancake meant for someone else and press tab to see 209

clear heath
brazen rampart
# stark crown should be 0

Counterargument, I got a crusher overhead dragged onto me by an ogryn because I couldn't see the crusher through him.

stark crown
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Skissue...

brazen rampart
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Gale.

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Vigilant autoguns.

clear heath
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should've dodged your ogryn

buoyant maple
nocturne dust
brazen rampart
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Wounds definitely need a use.

clear heath
cyan portal
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@nocturne dust watching your vod again, you sweep a little, but not as much or as well as you could. So I think that explains most of the difference.

brazen rampart
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Come up with a rework for martyrs purpose first.

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(It's so bad pls fatshark give martyrdom decent cdr)

buoyant maple
brazen rampart
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I think it was cdr boost based off of missing hp, doubled for corrupted hp.

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Not sure if that's the proper terminology, I'm meaning like how IOD is a % faster increase.

nocturne dust
brazen rampart
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Like 1% faster per 1% missing hp, 2% for every 1% corruption hp.

brazen rampart
nocturne dust
brazen rampart
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Oh I see.

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That actually makes more sense, tbh.

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Makes going down worse and motivates the player to avoid corruption.

nocturne dust
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It also rewards not going down, lol

brazen rampart
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Also, move until death to the middle tree.

nocturne dust
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which one is that

brazen rampart
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Not sure why it's in the "preacher" portion of the tree when it's clearly a martyr skill.

brazen rampart
nocturne dust
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oh

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I thought the name was 'move until death' lmao

brazen rampart
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Then holy rev is the heal up to 25% hp based on melee damage after until death pops.

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Both of those talents should be middle tree.

nocturne dust
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Can we also move the damage reduction on wound loss to middle

tired estuary
brazen rampart
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I already said that.

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Bleed for the emperor and restoring faith both need to be middle tree. (restoring faith already is)

brazen rampart
tired estuary
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Yes I do, its fucking dogshit

brazen rampart
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Then you're willfully wrong.

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Smh.

tired estuary
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And zealot doesn't need more cdr to stack with crit cdr

cyan portal
# nocturne dust If you say so

To explain what I mean by better, you need your crosshair to pass over every target in range 3 times per second, you are generally sweeping once in a single direction across the enemies.

brazen rampart
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IOD is a great example of good cdr.

brazen rampart
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Having more cdr options means less point taxes because you don't have to path to grab the ones that are currently functional.

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Also, punishment is a dogshit talent, so you're kinda shooting yourself in the foot to grab IOD.

tired estuary
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Good cdr is a major part of what trivializes the game rn

brazen rampart
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Your previous argument was stacking cdr, now it's "trivializing the game"? Make up your mind.

clear heath
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it doesn't really make sense to just have a useless node that doesn't even have a reason to be pathed through

brazen rampart
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^

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My point exactly.

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I also have reservations against cdr, in case you were wondering.

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Psykinetics Aura and tactical sense or whatever it is both need to be nerfed.

clear heath
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if they didn't want it to be functional, why is it even there? It doesn't even serve as a point tax, the 2 wounds as the alternate path to martyrdom is fucking mandatory

brazen rampart
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And I also believe IOD is a bit too overtuned.

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But as it currently stands, martyrs purpose is a dead node.

clear heath
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either buff the node or just delete it

brazen rampart
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Pious cutthroat is also awful because you're trusting the game to register a backstab.

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Imo, pious cutthroat should be a small % boost based on elite kills that stacks on itself.

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Like 10% faster regeneration per elite kill, stacking up to like 10 times.

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So once you stack up 10 kills, your cooldown is 100% faster.

tired estuary
brazen rampart
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That's a wonderful way to avoid my refute.

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Smh.

buoyant maple
brazen rampart
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Excellent argument for it! Better than "cdr bad".

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I dont play enough psyker or vet to suggest nerfs to their cdr talents, I just know zealout only has one that can be considered functional, and thats IOD.

buoyant maple
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This would be up to -8.5s for VoC & exe, and up to -13.5s for infil

brazen rampart
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I think it could be tuned down to like 175% regeneration boost.

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But also, I wasn't a tester, so I don't exactly know how 175% would feel.

clear heath
brazen rampart
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Yeah, I said that.

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It's much too strong as it currently is.

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Especially with how good shriek is at killing literally everything.

clear heath
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the fact that's op even just for yourself
but then it applies to your whole team

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wild

buoyant maple
broken carbon
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zealot needs CDR, it’s obviously built with each keystone having access to CDR in mind, but martyrs purpose fucking sucks so ur basically forced to run either crit CDR or backstab cdr which is really not that good

brazen rampart
tired estuary
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zealot doesn't literally need cdr, you can actually play without it

cyan portal
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I kinda hope all CDR talents are switched over to the '% cooldown speed for n seconds' that they did to the zealot on crit one.

tired estuary
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obv it's much fucking stronger if you have it

brazen rampart
clear heath
broken carbon
brazen rampart
clear heath
brazen rampart
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The 3 paths are preacher, martyr, and death cult assassin, left to right.

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So why is until death in the preacher side?

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Why is duellist in the preacher side?

clear heath
brazen rampart
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Why are fotf and chorus not swapped?

broken carbon
brazen rampart
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There's a lot wrong with it, design wise.

weary crane
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Not all of the things should be on the "dedicated" side, it's encouraged to play around the tree, and i like that

broken carbon
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it should be a marty talent

buoyant maple
weary crane
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But im happy with the new psker tree, the old one was far too restrictive

brazen rampart
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Yes, that's the point we are getting at, mainly.

clear heath
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it's global

brazen rampart
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I, personally, have a gripe with the trees layout because it isn't thematic to the path its in.

buoyant maple
brazen rampart
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Like vets is at least believable with ranged focus being on your left side and whatnot.

clear heath
brazen rampart
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But zealout's tree looks like it has been jumbled up by a toddler.

buoyant maple
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I think PsyAura needs an innate cap of activation

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Like

broken carbon
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i just remembered

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psyk tuah

clear heath
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but when does the cap reset?

broken carbon
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wonder where he is..

buoyant maple
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Maybe have it be able to activate up to 3 times between ability uses

clear heath
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on psyker ability use?

brazen rampart
lethal lagoon
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Just nerf the percentage, don't cap the skill, smh

buoyant maple
brazen rampart
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I would rather not see cdr caps either.

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% based nerfs seem fine enough.

lethal lagoon
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CDR caps don't make the game more fun for anyone

buoyant maple
clear heath
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pretty jank solution imo

brazen rampart
clear heath
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honestly the simplest way to effectively limit the effectiveness is just do what zealot crit cdr did

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just make it a ability regen buff

broken carbon
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just give it an internal cooldown

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yeah or that

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both accomplish the same thing

buoyant maple
broken carbon
clear heath
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it's pretty noticeable if the psyker doesn't suck and someone else has voice of command

buoyant maple
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Eh, idk

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A decent veteran usually snipes specialists faster than psyker does

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And Tac awareness is much higher reduction

clear heath
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you can't be telling me that your psyker is getting like no elite/special kills

buoyant maple
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They could, but a couple procs of -1.5s is

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Not as impactful as 3 specialist kills of -18s

clear heath
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making it 2-3% would probably be fine actually

late sphinx
fiery stratus
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psyker should have a death star style, planet destroying laser beam

upper galleon
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I want cdr kneecapped so abilities can be stronger and have better cooldowns baseline

fiery stratus
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thatll cleave bosses

broken carbon
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make it multiple attacks?

upper galleon
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I do not care for the fun of people who think it is fun for like, old 3 patches ago invocation to get abilities back in 2 swings

broken carbon
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increasing damage wouldn’t be useful

modest perch
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Make it knock stuff over like a real charge

upper galleon
broken carbon
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chastise should suppress the enemy you charge at

clear heath
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i think cdr is definitely too strong rn, but i also think the core idea of your cooldown being affected by gameplay to be fun

fiery stratus
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i think fof is balanced enough with the cooldown reduction nerf

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its still good and useful, and comes back quickly

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just not busted

upper galleon
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Except it’s also a nightmare to balance around especially when your cdr is scaling with density

buoyant maple
broken carbon
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evis and chainswords basically need chastise to function unfortunately

upper galleon
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More cdr should be like invoc but even then it needs a numbers nerf

broken carbon
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zealot does not need more crit chance

upper galleon
fiery stratus
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yes 100% crit change all the time

broken carbon
buoyant maple
broken carbon
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i thought about more stagger before

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and

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eh

upper galleon
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Pre nerf punishment absolutely broke some weapons

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Chaxe mainly, and heavy sword

buoyant maple
fiery stratus
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ok how about instead of crit change

broken carbon
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i think bandit’s ideas r good

upper galleon
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Chaxe could face out a pack of maulers

buoyant maple
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I think smth like 30~50%

fiery stratus
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additional ability cooldown

upper galleon
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If it isn’t very high it’s garbage

buoyant maple
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250% is silly

fiery stratus
buoyant maple
brazen rampart
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I would say that the 2x fotf charge node is good, but make another that makes fotf do overflow overtoughness, but you can't take both.

upper galleon
brazen rampart
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Or you can and just eat the point tax.

buoyant maple
upper galleon
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I want blitz to get extension nodes as well

brazen rampart
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Yes!

upper galleon
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All of the non psyker ones

clear heath
buoyant maple
upper galleon
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Make stunstorm have stun all enemies within it’s line of sight (flashbang even for gunners that are farther away)or give it electrocution

brazen rampart
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Imagine a sunstorm node that makes the grenade go off for another 3s or something.

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So you can pick up more allies or something at the cost of incoming enemy density becoming greater.

buoyant maple
clear heath
# buoyant maple I think smth like 30~50%

I swear my evis fails to stagger a lot more when rampage is gone, and that's like 30%.
So basically it would make it more consistent when i don't have rampage yet

upper galleon
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Ive been told that

brazen rampart
upper galleon
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Twice

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Okay

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So ill stab fatshark

ornate hamlet
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meow!

upper galleon
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And make fatshark fin soup

brazen rampart
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The only issue I'd see with the LOS thing is that currently LOS issues already exist with ogryn box submunitions falling through the floor and doing literally nothing...

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I know nothing about game design but I feel like it could be very easily fixed.

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Fart shark just chooses not to.

late sapphire
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finally done...

brazen rampart
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Whether maliciously or not, I couldn't tell.

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Maybe it's like their issues recreating sound overwrite issues.

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Like they don't play difficulties high enough to notice when a trapper spawn sound doesn't play.

nocturne dust
clear heath
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nausea is a small price to pay

cyan portal
restive slate
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Chainaxe on Psyker, what are BiS blessings?

eternal widget
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bro leveling takes forever goddamn

tired estuary
jovial juniper
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The 12 can use Thrust as well

restive slate
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Got it

restive slate
potent echo
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Yes

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Its probably has more boss dps than ds4 but it's alot harder to use

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Heavy rev takes so long you can't really use vs cspawn except vs his grab

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And non rev damage vs bosses is worse than ds4

analog agate
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age ol pastime of carrying through maels lol

eternal widget
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what would you say is best melee for psyker?

prime elk
restive slate
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Smth defensive and can deal with getting swarmed

prime elk
restive slate
prime elk
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but prob dueling sword mk 4, knife mk6 or a force sword

eternal widget
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well. im level 20

prime elk
eternal widget
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so my staff is ass

prime elk
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experiment and have fun

restive slate
eternal widget
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getting my ass kicked is not fun lol

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i was using electro

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palpatine

prime elk
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try taking illisi force sword

restive slate
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Ah yea, electrostaff isn't good managing hordes

prime elk
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since the EK staff isn't great for big hordes

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illisi is good at dealing with hordeds

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so it'll shore up the weakness of the staff

high wyvern
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does the electric staff have 4 extra unusable mastery points?

high wyvern
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alright, so its not a "me" bug

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ty

steep estuary
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What are the go to purgatus perks/blessings? I somehow got Blaze Away 4 from rng already

steep estuary
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Ty~

echo root
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You don't need rng anymore, they removed the locks

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You need rng to get a purgatus with 60 warp res.

steep estuary
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Yeah, I'm aware, I just haven't leveled my staff yet

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So I couldnt put it on normally, but I got a smidge lucky

echo root
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Save the Grey staves when gambling for dump stat
Consecrate all of them to green
Sacrifice
?????
Congrats you're lvl 9-14 mastery

steep estuary
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Y-yeah, I just haven't done that yet XD

analog agate
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I don’t understand how anyone can use the inferno staff right now. Anytime you charge an attack it plays the flamer sound

eternal widget
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ive been using dueling sword

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anyone got an EK build?

strong gulch
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IDK if you already know, but assail (right side blitz) is the general rec for leveling. If you've been using and are tried of it (or just don't like it lol) then of course don't use it.

restive slate
pliant tendon
eternal widget
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anyone wanna like... help a fellow psyker in game? Just need someone whose not a shitter to play heresy with... im 22 and trying sooo hard to get to 30.

pliant tendon
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(just saying there's plenty of people playing in case you can't find someone)

strong gulch
eternal widget
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ye

strong gulch
eternal widget
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prob loggin in a bit

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go lay down

strong gulch
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kk

haughty star
pliant tendon
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purgatus is amazing

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soulblazes everything, applies brittleness to everything, rends carapace, triggers brain rupture on top of it all

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i stopped using venting shriek on most builds but purgatus still makes me wanna do it, just to stack even more soulblaze

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the only downside is just that it doesn't quite stagger like electrokinetic does

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which shouldn't really be an issue if you play around your team so you can build those stacks

verbal thistle
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If you spam left click, it'll stagger

prime elk
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yeah it honestly has better cc than EK lol

pliant tendon
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yeah left click works like the flamer in that regard

verbal thistle
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But for the purg staff, it'll actually increase your dps and survivability

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Take a look at this

azure parcel
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Played two matches to level my Psyker, got a Recon Las both times

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Beloved pls

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I don't want to play Gunker

heavy ember
idle marsh
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Loving Gunker, although I’ve been knocked a but due to some issues with my dodging

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Is there a hard limit to the number of dodges?

pliant tendon
flint plume
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depends on your weapon

verbal thistle
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Every weapon has a dodge limit, you can see yours by inspecting the weapon

pliant tendon
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makes me want to invite 3 psyker bros so we can all blaze together

verbal thistle
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Combat knife for example has 5

potent echo
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4 level 20 psykers

idle marsh
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I probably should refund my dodge key from my jump key

verbal thistle
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If you dodge 5 times without a break the rest of your dodges will be really slow and not as far

pliant tendon
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we can invite a zealot too

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flame gang

idle marsh
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Quick scenario question that happened today: I fell off the a pipe bridge while clearing a horde that was chasing my team, and I was knocked down instantly by a Rager, and my team was already far away. Should I have ignored the horde to keep up with my team, or stayed to fight it?

pliant tendon
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woe on whoever joins their group just to have their screen filled with flames of all possible colors

verbal thistle
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But there are so many variables

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It's not always yes or no

idle marsh
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Although I am getting better in other ways

verbal thistle
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That is true. Just always remember, if saving a teammates kills you before you are able to save them, then it's 2 downed teammates.

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Play safe and smart

verbal thistle
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I have 2k hours in the game and I still find ways to improve

pliant tendon
verbal thistle
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It's a learning game, something new everyday

idle marsh
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I’m learning movement starts and how to run when needed

pliant tendon
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tbh i may be becoming more jaded the more maelstroms and aurics i play with complete randoms, especially playing a frail psyker

idle marsh
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Dueling sword is crazy busted rn

pliant tendon
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now i definitely just try to save myself always, rather than risk my precious toughness

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could always justify by saying that you aren't useful to your team while dead or downed though...

idle marsh
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Thanks for all the advice and help, this server is great

pliant tendon
verbal thistle
pliant tendon
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but the ds is definitely something

radiant frigate
radiant frigate
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solution? fuck them stragglers

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keep up or die-die

young spear
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i am too good hearted

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i will dive for a res if i feel like i have even a 30% chance to pull it off

radiant frigate
restive slate
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All Ogryn-hearted

radiant frigate
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but every time i have one of these Incidents™ i say "no i wil not do that anymore" for about a day and then i am back to trying to save people

young spear
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there are some situations where you have to accept your teammate is dead

radiant frigate
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also true

young spear
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i am not good at accepting those situations

pliant tendon
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i too enjoy making a heroic run back through fire, horde, and some more fire on top

radiant frigate
young spear
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8 snipers, 3 bulwarks, 2 bombers, and several ragers to top it all off

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ill save them

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and maybe a trapper behind all that too

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but thats a surprise for later

restive slate
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"Oh there was a daemonhost there"

radiant frigate
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yes, yes, we have had trapper

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but what about second trapper?

pliant tendon
young spear
pliant tendon
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it's comedy gold when that player then dies right away in all the chaos

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maybe with the rescuer on the side

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meanwhile the rest of your group is dying because you're all scattered

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and then it feels like it was your own fault because you died and made the guy run back

quartz barn
pliant tendon
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(but that's just my pov playing psyker)

quartz barn
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That way you get them moving towards the rest of the team

young spear
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horde herding

pliant tendon
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i used to run telekine dome in every build to protect my team...

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now it's just telekine shield to shield myself from snipers

quartz barn
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Also tbh if theres anything that i dislike its when im clearing a certain area on my own and people join to help me

pliant tendon
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or put it behind me so the dog or poxburster doesnt get me

young spear
#

unrelated note i got kicked for the first time ever

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probably because i was using recon lasgun lol

#

not even a word spoken, just poof i was gone

pliant tendon
#

should've put a silencer on it 😂

quartz barn
#

Guaranteed the other 3 were premades

young spear
#

more than likely

#

it wasnt even that far into the match

quartz barn
#

Because ive never had a kick go through with even 1 random

young spear
#

fr

#

i had a random afk literally half the game

#

rescued him like 5 times i wanted to kick him cus he was... afk

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randoms kept vouching for him 😭

#

farmed penance off of him at least

quartz barn
#

Prob because the vote accept keybind is scuffed

#

Wait i bound some screencap thing to f12 a couple days ago

young spear
#

one of them was arguing to keep the random

#

that kicking was rude

quartz barn
#

So i prob cant vote any more

young spear
#

as if afking the entire second half of the match wasnt rude 😭

quartz barn
#

...

young spear
#

we lost

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the afk guy didnt even say anything

#

bro went to sleep or something it was slightly annoying

quartz barn
#

Playing with 1 other person is kinda funny if one of the randoms leaves

#

Kick only required 2 votes lmao

young spear
#

convert the lobby to true duo

quartz barn
#

But i rarely kick

pliant tendon
#

"i do not like the sounds their weapon makes, remove them from my game"

young spear
#

yeah i only kick if someone is hard afk or griefing

#

back when demonhosts killed 2 ppl

#

🤐

quartz barn
#

Last few times i did it was when i did hm twins for a fren

#

Needed to unlock it the proper way first

#

But for some reason theres a bunch of dumbasses that run the normal version of that mission

pliant tendon
#

sometimes i like to revv my chainaxe the whole game 🙂

quartz barn
#

But solo

#

So we kept loading in halfway through

pliant tendon
#

the "worst" reaction i've ever gotten was people running in front of me and meleeing me

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(the chainaxe revv up can be pretty obnoxious lmao)

young spear
#

i remember queueing sedition karnak for an ogryn penance

#

the BLO penance

restive slate
young spear
#

someone was unironically queueing it, and i felt bad for just leaving them alone so i did it with them

young spear
#

they only kill the person that woke them now

pliant tendon
#

we should queue together

restive slate
pliant tendon
#

i revv my axe you pew your gun

young spear
#

region?

#

im us-w

pliant tendon
#

eu i guess

restive slate
pliant tendon
#

but you can play with other regions right

young spear
#

yeah you can play with other regions

#

but combat will feel a bit iffy with dodges

#

and any projectiles

pliant tendon
#

it's ok i'm on zealot

#

doesn't matter if i miss dodges or attacks

young spear
#

mayhaps another time

#

im too eepy currently

young spear
pliant tendon
#

ok sure, have a nice sleep then

pliant tendon
young spear
#

im the hi int gunner gauntlet

pliant tendon
#

or maybe a rave

young spear
#

im that too

eternal widget
#

hey uhhh, do i have to do something to get an illisi blaze force?

#

i only find Deimos

verbal thistle
potent echo
#

Marks gets unlocked as you progress the mastery tree

eternal widget
#

can i reset masteries in order to max out the better ones?

lunar totem
#

yo can a psyker fix my throat this shit burns and is closed up

lunar totem
#

you know what

#

it’s better than burning whenever i swallow

eternal widget
pliant tendon
#

and if you don't wanna play more for them, just sacrifice some green weapons at hadron

#

(of the same type)

verbal thistle
radiant frigate
lunar totem
radiant frigate
#

besides, you have an excellent chance of survival

lunar totem
radiant frigate
#

nearly 30%

lunar totem
exotic crane
#

Can someone please recommend a setup for lvl 16 that can melt bosses?

radiant frigate
#

"melt bosses" and "psyker" do not really go together

#

best bet is either guns or stabbing them in the face with a dueling sword or knife repeatedly

#

inferno staff can do some work too

radiant frigate
verbal thistle
#

Yes

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dueling sword exists

#

gun psyker

radiant frigate
#

which i did mention

#

neither of which will do better than zealot/vet with the same setup unless you specifically precook your sg

#

but how exactly are you going to scry that a boss will appear

verbal thistle
#

you always precook sg

#

keep it off cooldown

quartz barn
#

Just run really far ahead of the team and force them to spawn thumbsup_ogryn

pliant tendon
verbal thistle
# radiant frigate am i wrong?

apolgise for short answers, I was in mission. But if you dont believe me in that psyker cant do boss damagea outside of DS I will explain

radiant frigate
#

😭

pliant tendon
#

yeah man you totally don't need this duelling sword of recon lasgun garbo to melt bosses as psyker

#

presents you the combat blade and an infantry autogun instead

radiant frigate
#

what is this

unborn basin
#

Anyone know if [Kinetic Pressence]'s damage aura effects smite's damage?

potent echo
#

Probably yes

#

Since smite is affected normally by malefic and rider and whatever not

#

You don't need any of those to reach rager BP with creeping and EP though

pliant tendon
#

i just wish i could melt a boss just using my own psychic powers and not some muggle-made weaponry

#

ever tried solo brain rupturing a boss in a full group? takes a while...

unborn basin
#

Bad news im in psych, the aura seems to have zero effect

radiant frigate
unborn basin
#

Good news everyone, ranged damage effects smite. Just not the aura

radiant frigate
#

are you sure you were zapping elites

pliant tendon
#

i hope you aren't coming up with a build that just uses smite to kill

unborn basin
#

Good point, elites. Gonna redo test

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i do indeed for fun and giggles, want a smite kill build. So far i'm dominating lobbies w/ 800 kills using just a soulfire build soley spamming smite

#

the changes they made to the talent tree are evil and i love them

pliant tendon
#

assail might have even better k/d/a potential

unborn basin
#

I like smite being able to have a 100% uptime

#

wish assail could do that reliably

exotic crane
#

I am having issues levelling because whenever a boss appears my team evaporates

#

so I need to kill it fast before they fucking die

unborn basin
#

Retested, aura works against elites

nocturne dust
#

Psyker is the wrong class for that

exotic crane
#

had no issue with that on ogryn, I could tank forever while also killing it

verbal thistle
#

☹️

pliant tendon
#

i normally don't even use smite without empowered psionics up

#

assail still good

nocturne dust
#

Psyker has a hard time doing boss damage. Your best options are the Inferno staff + dueling sword and Vraks autogun, but neither is that great of an option.

potent echo
#

Huh

pliant tendon
#

don't listen to this madman

#

SAY NO TO GUN

potent echo
#

Vraks autogun is the perfect option KEKW_ogryn

radiant frigate
nocturne dust
#

I don't like gunker but gunker is psyker's best option for boss damage.

potent echo
#

You can 2 mag a boss consistently

#

Gunker is great this patch

nocturne dust
#

Also sucks at everything else compared to staffker tho, lol.

potent echo
#

Nou

nocturne dust
#

no u

exotic crane
#

I'll try the autogun with unyielding damage thanks

potent echo
#

🥳

nocturne dust
#

Another fallen to heresy, smh my head

pliant tendon
#

"psyker sucks, so just use a gun"

potent echo
#

I didn't say that though whatthefuck_heresy

pliant tendon
#

i'd still rather use my force weapons

#

than admit defeat...

potent echo
#

It's ok boss damage staff soon

pliant tendon
#

what's next

#

supplying psykers with grenades

potent echo
#

Next year loregryn

radiant frigate
pliant tendon
#

they already gave them a bunch of heretical muggle weapons

#

we just needed more force weapons

nocturne dust
#

trauma staff is literally just a grenade staff

pliant tendon
#

or maybe new versions of current ones that do different stuff idk

potent echo
#

Yes

#

Inferno staff but single target with max 31 stacks loregryn

potent echo
#

Basically

pliant tendon
#

could use more force swords too

#

instead of 3 recolors with altered movesets

quartz barn
#

Force 2h pogryn

pliant tendon
#

of the same thing

potent echo
#

Waiting for 2h forcesword since launch Servoskull

pliant tendon
#

at this point i'd even take a recolor that simply does a different force attack lmao

pliant tendon
#

we're far from the stage where we can fantasize about completely new weapons

#

but sure

#

force axes would be nice too

radiant frigate
#

idc i need twohanders

potent echo
#

Force throwing axe

radiant frigate
#

returning force throwing axe

quartz barn
#

We also dont have any halberds

#

Altough i guess those are reserved for techpriests

pliant tendon
#

i had a crazy idea earlier

#

but the longer i think about it the more sane it seems

potent echo
pliant tendon
#

you know how psyker has gimped stats for some reason and just weak compared to other classes

#

there is a simple solution to that

potent echo
#

Make smite basekit

pliant tendon
#

psykers in w40k use force barriers

#

how come our weak-ass psykers can only do it while holding block

#

it should be a passive\

radiant frigate
#

force sword and force barrier when

pliant tendon
quartz barn
#

Because outside of the missions we run theyre literally not allowed to use the warp

radiant frigate
#

force sword and board

quartz barn
#

Obv our psyker sucks at utilizing the warp when they barely get to use it

pliant tendon
#

for psykers force swords and such are just tools to focus their psychic powers

#

if our force swords suck that can only mean one thing

#

psykers are weak

#

i mean c'mon

#

can't summon a force barrier

quartz barn
#

And tbf the german accent personality would just get killed because they symphasize with xenos lol

pliant tendon
#

or even do something basic like seeing through walls and stuff

#

no wonder they resort to using random janky weapons they can find

#

well

#

as a side note i could add- the in-game psyker abilities are named after their w40k counterparts

#

except

#

scrier's gaze lets the psykers see things far away, like places or people (as the name suggests)

#

meanwhile in the game it's a dps cooldown?

radiant frigate
#

i assume it is meant to be scrying enemy weakpoints

pliant tendon
#

it's like they realized they can't let psyker do stuff like that, since vet has that skill already lmao

unborn basin
#

I would like to send enemies flying, that would be fun

#

telekenisis

#

a black hole i can pul lthe mob into in the air

pliant tendon
#

psykers are supposed to have lots of disciplines anyway

exotic crane
#

I am feeling like I'm roleplaying psyker irl

#

because I'm going insane

radiant frigate
#

what about the "cast haste on yourself and rip heretics to shreds with force swords" discipline

#

can we get that

radiant frigate
pliant tendon
#

but anyway my point was that darktide psykers a bunch of inexperienced noobs with not a lot of psychic power

exotic crane
#

I have lost maybe 15 matches now

#

I don't think I've lost 5 when playing ogryn while levelling

radiant frigate
exotic crane
#

it's fuckign insane

#

I am always the last to die

#

as a psyker

#

how

pliant tendon
#

i mean one of them is literally the emperor

nocturne dust
exotic crane
#

But I do

#

the problem is my team dying to poxwalkers

nocturne dust
#

🤷‍♂️ The pub giveth, and the pub taketh

exotic crane
#

I am starting to believe there is an anti-psyker conspiracy

pliant tendon
#

force them to live instead

exotic crane
#

it doesn't help, they still die

nocturne dust
#

There's no saving stupid

pliant tendon
#

well make sure you use the one on the left and not dome

exotic crane
#

I am using the dome with toughness regeneration

pliant tendon
#

lets you save dumb people from specialists

#

the dome only blocks bullets

nocturne dust
#

it blocks nets

#

dome does

pliant tendon
#

still nice but you're just making baddies hold point for half a minute

exotic crane
#

I know, but it gives toughness regen

nocturne dust
#

and bombs

#

Dome is way better than wall

radiant frigate
#

also flamers

exotic crane
#

the thing is they don't die to ranged

nocturne dust
#

Wall only helps in chokes where specials will get gibbed anyway

exotic crane
#

they die to poxwalkers

nocturne dust
#

and doesn't even protect ogryns

pliant tendon
#

i mean

nocturne dust
#

and no toughness regen or tdr

pliant tendon
#

he did say they're dying to poxbursters

exotic crane
#

poxWALKERS KEKW_ogryn

nocturne dust
#

walkers KEKW_ogryn

pliant tendon
#

oh

exotic crane
#

well, I mean like regular melee guys

pliant tendon
#

yeah i guess there's no saving them then

exotic crane
#

not even berserkers

pliant tendon
#

well

#

i suppose smite might help

nocturne dust
#

Dome is better against walkers but honestly your best bet might be taking shriek and trying to clear horde with max damage

#

Shriek is shriek anyway

exotic crane
#

Shriek with soulblaze yeah?

#

maybe I can try that

pliant tendon
#

sure dome is better against trash

nocturne dust
#

or more

pliant tendon
#

but if poxwalkers are an issue

#

you just need a grenade and not magical barriers lmao

nocturne dust
#

Shriek is a grenade

#

Staggers and kills trash on screen

#

with a soulblaze build it goes bbbbbrrrrrr

nocturne dust
pliant tendon
#

vets have already brainwashed all of you into using guns anyway

#

may as well use grenades at this point

nocturne dust
#

oh lawd

#

That's malice

pliant tendon
#

also hunting grounds, so another point for the rectangle shield

nocturne dust
#

Guns are stupid

#

Embrace space magic

nocturne dust
#

Find any corner

radiant frigate
nocturne dust
#

Hounds solved

radiant frigate
#

what if bad guy is all the way over there but i am over here (and i want them dead)

#

sword doesn't reach that far unfortunately

late sapphire
#

yeah i thought so

pliant tendon
#

if your teammates die to poxwalkers you can't expect them to evade a wave of dogs

nocturne dust
#

yeah I thought so

late sapphire
#

Only reason to ever run shield is to pop a blue stim and double shield wall and explode a monstrosity i think

pliant tendon
#

with the rectangle you can at least hide behind it yourself and shoot the dogs of your mates

nocturne dust
pliant tendon
#

a strategy i still utilize on auric damnation

nocturne dust
#

Hounds aren't deadly

late sapphire
#

Eh dogs are a nonissue

#

PC takes care of most of em

nocturne dust
late sapphire
#

Just kill a few and the rest die off naturally

nocturne dust
pliant tendon
late sapphire
#

5 seconds...

late sapphire
#

Try out venting shriek

#

6 flame stacks on all dogs = grilled dog meat

nocturne dust
pliant tendon
#

try out hi-intensity hunting grounds with a vent purge 😂

nocturne dust
#

I literally do not lose to hound waves. If anything it makes me likelier to win KEKW_ogryn

#

PC go bbbbbrrrrrrrr

pliant tendon
#

and then see your bozo teammates run off by themselves right away

potent echo
#

Just let them run off, you sit in a corner and survive

pliant tendon
#

but well

#

maybe some of you actually play the game with friends

nocturne dust
#

nope

potent echo
#

No

pliant tendon
#

we can't apply the same logic here

potent echo
#

No friends gang chadgryn

nocturne dust
#

I pub 99% of the time

nocturne dust
#

You don't need to rely on others to deal with hound waves

quartz barn
#

Melee only vs dog waves isnt as hard as it seems

pliant tendon
#

using my own mechanics is relying on others? talk about funky logic

nocturne dust
#

Even ignoring how psyker just loves masses of elites/specialists, you can just spam push and stab them to death with a corner to your back

pliant tendon
#

bro just wants to shriek and refuses to use other abilities

nocturne dust
pliant tendon
#

i just like my shield ok

proper osprey
#

A lot of people don’t push and they die in hunting grounds

late sapphire
#

Really though with shield usually you can block off an entire path

nocturne dust
#

You can.

late sapphire
#

I like running it sometimes on specials mutants dogs bursters mode

nocturne dust
#

It's not helpful, but you can.

quartz barn
#

I assume shield = wall?

nocturne dust
#

wall yes

potent echo
#

You hold a 90 degree wall crack and camp there like that's it

#

Maybe dodge the occasional dog that slips pass

pliant tendon
#

apparently venting shriek is the only ability worth using in this game

#

something i learned today

late sapphire
#

and scriers gaze

quartz barn
#

Dont dodge dogs pls

nocturne dust
pliant tendon
#

i've been playing all wrong

late sapphire
#

shield just sucks

quartz barn
#

Do everyone a favor and just push them

pliant tendon
#

should i get a duelling sword as well?

late sapphire
#

das rite

pliant tendon
#

maybe i should consider it

nocturne dust
#

You just picking the worst ability that really doesn't help

pliant tendon
#

so i can melee those doggos

potent echo
#

Last I recall the other 3 classes don't have shriek

late sapphire
#

think abt it

quartz barn
#

Oggy has taunt which is also a shriek

pliant tendon
#

you do realize you are saying that about the shield while also using the shriek yourself

potent echo
#

More like a fard

late sapphire
#

Zealot, well

#

Zealot only has shrieks

quartz barn
#

Ye shall fall

nocturne dust
pliant tendon
#

i mean venting shriek is a pretty nice skill when you're still learning the game and tend to go to 100% pretty often

#

i've been there so i get it

late sapphire
#

Why are you throwing a huge fit, anyways?

#

Grow up dude

potent echo
#

Wall is only worth it on EP BR or gunkers staregryn

exotic crane
#

hly fucking shit

#

i just tanked a daemonhost

#

on a psyker

nocturne dust
potent echo
#

But you used shriek though, so it doesn't count

exotic crane
#

it's so amazing

#

peril blocking

late sapphire
#

kd carries once again

pliant tendon
#

i like the psyker channel

nocturne dust
quartz barn
pliant tendon
#

can't get fun weird interactions when in veteran

quartz barn
#

And those who think they are good come to get dunked on

pliant tendon
#

you can tell who's been touched by the warp and who hasn't

quartz barn
#

Because vet chat is ass lmao

nocturne dust
#

Go to zealot chat

#

They're weirder

quartz barn
#

The better builds dont even use keystones

late sapphire
#

Vet chat is boring

#

Honk shooo mimimi

#

I go to vet chat i sleep

quartz barn
#

Yet people still vouch for the 5% movement speed boost being good

pliant tendon
#

damn psyker chat and vet chat have a beef...

potent echo
#

Guys, DAE powersword plasma is meta? Please advice

pliant tendon
#

is it over the guns??

nocturne dust
#

True vet meta is shovel and revolver with only one round, for yourself

potent echo
exotic crane
#

It's actually kinda crazy that you can just press block and dodge and the daemonhost can't do shit

radiant frigate
#

yeah but realistically neither are you

exotic crane
#

true, but it's better than dying. I was kiting and blocking for over a minute

steep estuary
#

Dancing with the Daemon~

exotic crane
#

well, it was an isolated dh, so they just killed it eventually

radiant frigate
#

ok i think i officially hate zealot

#

and knife

#

and stealth

#

especially stealth knife zealot

upper sun
#

theres always one 🚬

#

where and how did they die?

radiant frigate
#

they didn't

#

there were 2 of them and they were always 5 rooms ahead

#

until it was time to fight the boss, then they were smugly hiding behind a corner

steep estuary
#

And here I thought they'd be salivating at the opportunity to make health bar vanish

radiant frigate
#

i thought the same

#

but no, apparently not

#

i guess i am just limited to vet now

#

since the other three won't work anymore

#

at least until we get force greatsword

pliant tendon
#

using shroudfield does funny things to your brain

radiant frigate
#

shrouds your brain even from yourself

pliant tendon
#

the moment i equipped loner and shroudfield on my zealot and entered a mission

#

i instantly felt an extreme urge to run as far as i can

#

away from my team

radiant frigate
#

stealth was a mistake

pliant tendon
#

idk it was pretty weird

#

(i eventually died)

#

later when they eventually picked me up i just did the same thing again

#

call of nature

steep estuary
#

Stealth feels off. Like, if you could sneak around normally and just dodge every encounter, an enhanced stealth option would make more sense.

radiant frigate
#

was it for penances at least

pliant tendon
#

penances?

steep estuary
radiant frigate
#

the stealth loner virus has taken over..

pliant tendon
#

i literally just joined randoms and made them do the mission as 3 😂

radiant frigate
#

this one is lost

pliant tendon
#

just zealot things

steep estuary
#

Cruel and usual punishment

upper sun
#

ive seen about 2-3 stealth zealots that were actually useful to the team

#

like stealth revives killing hard to see snipers etc

steep estuary
#

Imagine contributing to your team in a coop game

radiant frigate
steep estuary
#

Theres a reason I'm 30 on psyker and never hit 30 elsewhere

pliant tendon
#

zealots aren't playing your game

upper sun
radiant frigate
#

shake myrine 2

pliant tendon
#

they've been playing chess while you're still playing checkers

#

all of us really

radiant frigate
#

thing is

#

i know how chess works

#

i have no idea what checkers us

#

is*

steep estuary
#

I recently heard about lesbian chess

radiant frigate
#

2 queens?

steep estuary
radiant frigate
#

take both down for victory?

pliant tendon
#

cat fight cat fight

radiant frigate
#

oh it's just a massacre then

#

i guess that is pretty on-brand

steep estuary
#

I cant remember the last time I played checkers

upper sun
pliant tendon
#

so like

steep estuary
#

I think it was a drinking game and I won a perfect match?

pliant tendon
#

what happens when 4 shroudfield loner zealots go quickplay

#

and they're all put in the same gam

#

e

nocturne dust
#

They don't notice anything

steep estuary
#

Finally, singleplayer

pliant tendon
#

i was thinking more like

#

do they set up the rules and then just race?

#

and are there prizes

#

wonder if you could organize something like this...

radiant frigate
#

last one to die is a nurgle worshipping heretic

steep estuary
#

Time for the annual Darktide games! Get your rebreathers, the zealots are racing today, and its gonna be toxic.

Tomorrow we have assail marksmanship, followed by ogryn jigsaw puzzles!

pliant tendon
#

for all we know they all may be nurgle worshippers already

#

maybe he's been telling them to do it

#

to sow chaos among imperial ranks

steep estuary
#

Some of them sound a little Khorney though

radiant frigate
#

they are also too fast to be nurgle worshippers

#

except thammer

pliant tendon
#

shroudfield would've been a better psyker ability

#

better leave it in responsible hands

steep estuary
#

Purple psyker

nocturne dust
#

but then we wouldn't have the abilities we have

#

so no

pliant tendon
#

dw you'd still have your shriek

nocturne dust
#

Silence heathen

#

You speak as if I only use shriek, and you speak wrong

steep estuary
#

Oml turn invisible, walk up to someone, "BOO!"