Um... this is probably a known issue. It's new to me because I haven't been checking the armory.
#psyker-class
strong gulch
nocturne dust
warp charge, perilous combustion
broken carbon
What's wc and pc
warp charges, perilous combustion
nocturne dust
warp charges, perilous combustion
nocturne dust
I mean your choices are BB and smite
austere warren
I throw the shard, the shard pierces. Pierce cool. Assail cool.
Zaps or power word: aneurism. Hm...
strong gulch
This is your standard surge / electro build. #psyker-class message
Regular trauma and purg work of the same build with minor deviations.
austere warren
Maybe I do want to hear crit zaps.
nocturne dust
EK, trauma, and purg all kinda have the same build
and Voidstrike still works fine with that build too
young spear
zap staff seems to give too many blessing points
now i permanently have the blessing point indicator :(
strong gulch
yip
young spear
just the trauma staff left and i have all the staves maxed
nocturne dust
now i permanently have the blessing point indicator :(
mod fix when
We all know Fatshark will take too long to do it 
young spear
what blessings are good for the trauma
nothing ive tried really feels too different so far
nocturne dust
Blazing spirit and warp nexus for fire trauma
patent steeple
nothing ive tried really feels too different so far
Blazing Spirit (Tier 3 or 4, doesn't matter which since the max stack count is the same) with Warp Nexus is the best kind of Trauma imo
young spear
ill give it a shot
havent invested at all into blazing spirit unfortunately
ill see if i can feed it some guns
young spear
i have like 300 useless guns
nocturne dust
I recommend trashing any blue+ weapons
and using that plasteel to level white traumas to green to sacrifice
it gives a lot more xp when you have a weapon of the same type
echo root
zap staff seems to give too many blessing points
Welcome to the club 
young spear
it gives a lot more xp when you have a weapon of the same type
hmmm good to know
ill do that then
ty
ground up and remolded into trauma staff....
flint spear
rending shockwave+warp flurry for any C-I-VI 
nocturne dust
but hot hot fire builds are cool
echo root
Why would you run rending shockwave on Trauma?
young spear
when you say trash, do you mean discard?
echo root
when you say trash, do you mean discard?
Yes.
nocturne dust
Why would you run rending shockwave on Trauma?
for a rend build
nocturne dust
when you say trash, do you mean discard?
yes
echo root
for a rend build
How about just killing everything super quickly instead.
young spear
does it notify that it gives plasteel? i only got the noti for dockets
flint spear
I literally said for C-I-VI
nocturne dust
does it notify that it gives plasteel? i only got the noti for dockets
You only get plasteel for blue rarity or higher weps
flint spear
unless you dont play mealstorm
young spear
You only get plasteel for blue rarity or higher weps
they were purples and golds exclusively
nocturne dust
then it should've said
nocturne dust
I guess check your plasteel and see if you've been cheated
young spear
i didnt pay attention to my plasteel prior
nocturne dust
young spear
we should be good regardless
echo root
unless you dont play mealstorm
I usually play maelstorm unless it's the same one back to back.
young spear
we're rich
ok i tested it with my zealot
i still got the plasteel, just didnt give the notification
nocturne dust
unless you dont play mealstorm
I mean fire trauma doesn't have that big of a problem with carapace
Just knock em down and poke em while they're on the floor
echo root
How many blasts do you even save with rending shockwave?
flint spear
yes but you dont kill as fast w/ RS+flurry
young spear
ah, how nice
nocturne dust
yes but you dont kill as fast w/ RS+flurry
uh that's very wrong
Ds4 shenanigans are ds4 shenanigans
echo root
ah, how nice
This + Wildfire + In Fire Reborn is so nice.
flint spear
how's that wrong
nocturne dust
how's that wrong<:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
dueling sword to the head is a very quick way to kill crushers
flint spear
oh yea gotta use dat sweet dueling sword in C-I-VI 
flint spear
ah, how nice
you cannot give soul blaze stacks when they are on 6 or more stacks
echo root
It's for warp charges
flint spear
you are going to be one blessing short after your shriek
young spear
well what would you recommend i put on it then
echo root
Do not listen to this Heretic, run Blazing Spirit
young spear
ill try blazing spirit cus i was running the brittle one before
flint spear
well wildfire evenly spread the stacks it's not really a good node
nocturne dust
well wildfire evenly spread the stacks it's not really a good node
More heresy
young spear
im just leveling mastery and using staves i got pre-patch
echo root
well wildfire evenly spread the stacks it's not really a good node
It's a good node mostly because it makes mobs die while affected by soulblaze, which procs in fire reborn
Which means you can spam venting shriek more
Which makes more fire
I know it only spreads if you have 2 or more
I know it only refreshes if they have 4 charges
nocturne dust
It's also not good logic to say it sucks because it spreads evenly. This is a horde game, you ain't killing single enemies.
young spear
well its certainly poorly worded
flint spear
because if you are running shriek you will be stacking 6 to all the mobs already
and it wont spread if they already got 4
young spear
i think theyre saying its good because it makes the spread happen constantly and effectively extends the duration of ur shrieks fire
nocturne dust
It will spread to mobs unaffected by shriek
young spear
thus procing in fire reborn more
flint spear
let's say you trauma blaze with 5 stacks then what
young spear
i dont think wildfire is that good either, but i wanna try it out and see for myself
nocturne dust
they already got 5
and there are more enemies that exist, dummy
is horde game
always more
young spear
ill just try the build for myself
i can see the appeal of it, i dont expect it to be strong because shriek is already pretty easy to loop
but i might be surprised who knows
flint spear
the biggest fallacy here being, truama has a radius of 8.4 at max charge
this
spread
nocturne dust
Fire trauma is proven to be better dps than rending trauma. That shouldn't be a matter of debate in the slightest.
flint spear
how are you going to reach anything beyond 15 with your trama RMB?
nocturne dust
how are you going to reach anything beyond 15 with your trama RMB?
Wildfire.
flint spear
or is that 8 dmg/tick really matters
nocturne dust
That's literally how it helps
and also it'll stack to 4
on every enemy, because it's a horde game and you're killing tons
flint spear
it's a dead node because of that 4 stacks limit
zinc phoenix
Rather than having a pointless argument that will convince no one why not go into meatgrinder and test how fast you kill a horde with/without
Can even film it
young spear
i was actually about to test that lmao
ashen trellis
I'm really struggling with those random ass non horde encounters with scattered enemies in mid range when playing right click electrokinetic, should I just try to stick very close to my team when that happens or is there something else I should do
doesn't matter if I run smite or bb
nocturne dust
The issue is you kinda need a real situation to show its full power, wildfire's use is in the continuous enemies and how it spreads, not some TTK test
young spear
yeah^
because venting shriek just kills everything already you need a back to back horde fight
a pouring in of a horde
i think wildfire has value in filling in the gaps of your shriek
nocturne dust
but even on the 50 poxwalker creature spawner test, you can tell the difference between no wildfire and wildfire. It's very minor in a small test like that, but it's there.
young spear
ill try this and see if i struggle with armor
the lack of brittleness might mess me up when i knock something down and go for knife pokes
young spear
pretty fun build
i like it
armor wasnt an issue that match cus 2 bolter vets but my chaff clear was a lot higher overall that match
radiant frigate
oh jeez it's tekona
radiant frigate
the lack of brittleness might mess me up when i knock something down and go for ...
can use uncanny to remedy this for the same effect (also juices up soulblaze vs armor)
radiant frigate
you can also be insane and play rending blaze trauma entirely poweredby true aim
entirely impractical? mostly yes
orchid ibex
iiiveg, do i go lose my auric maelstrom survivor progress?
upper sun
tbh i did it coward mode and hand picked modifiers
orchid ibex
after failing it many times that's probably what i'm going to do
upper sun
bubble in ranged
truama in scab
hammer in monsters
i did like 2 randomly thats enough
it got really disgusting towards 5/5 we had 4 bubble psykers
at one point i had 5 regen auras on top of me (yes they stack)
orchid ibex
lol
i also have no friends who will play auric with me so i'm doing it fully with pugs
that's the definition of pain
upper sun
you can look for people in #vox-lfg-lexicanum
flat shadow
i also have no friends who will play auric with me so i'm doing it fully with pu...
I did it swapping between psyker and ogryn but I had no friends I just incidentally got it
people say pub lobbies are awful but I always get good people with outliers sometimes
orchid ibex
they're usually great players but sometimes you get ones who are not
tight saddle
i also have no friends who will play auric with me so i'm doing it fully with pu...
I only recently started doing Auric, most games are fun and perfectly fine, but last night I had one where 12-16 people left as soon as they joined and went down shortly after instantly leaving before I could attempt to get them up.
I did most of the mission with 3 bots before the last set of players that actually stayed. Those were gamers.
orchid ibex
sometimes you get braindead teammates, often you get people who leave on the first down to cheat the penance, and often people who i swear are so good they're carrying me. it's just a mixed bag as you'd expect.
echo root
I only recently started doing Auric, most games are fun and perfectly fine, but ...
It's the title farmers
haughty star
you can also be insane and play rending blaze trauma entirely poweredby true aim
Pretty sure @spice veldt doess lol
orchid ibex
yeah they're leaving so it doesn't reset the title penance
quartz barn
I only recently started doing Auric, most games are fun and perfectly fine, but ...
Title farmers aside, this is also just a way to revive yourself / have bots clutch the run
People actually leaving heavily depends on the mission
orchid ibex
i have seen people just leave and come back to basically pick themselves back up
quartz barn
But honestly this was probably because servers were apparently scuffed earlier
pliant tendon
i just talented disrupt destiny for the first time and i'm trying it out
spent like 10 minutes looking for a marked enemy but nothing
i wonder if i'm doing something wrong
haughty star
they just glow
orchid ibex
they'll show up blue but if you look away it resets to something new
echo root
Title farmers aside, this is also just a way to revive yourself / have bots clut...
This really shouldn't be a thing either.
haughty star
also what diff are you on?
echo root
i wonder if i'm doing something wrong
It doesn't work in the meat grinder
pliant tendon
It doesn't work in the meat grinder
that explains it lol
broken carbon
that explains it lol
it can work in the meat grinder if you have the creature spawner mod, and disable invisibility
enemies that can get marked are shooters, gunners, ragers, shotgunners, bruisers
i don’t remember if maulers can be marked
ogryns can not be marked
thorn cedar
Maulers yes
haughty star
oml i'm so bad with purgatus lmao
tight saddle
Title farmers aside, this is also just a way to revive yourself / have bots clut...
They were the only ones down and easily revivable from my perspective. Especially since it was me, 2 bots, 1 random most of the time after the initial people left left. I'm familiar with people leaving to cheese it, but they never reconnected and it took forever to fill their slots.
pulsar hazel
oml i'm so bad with purgatus lmao
Trick with purgatus is to abuse the left click attack
It's really good suppression and stagger and deceptively high range. Basically no damage but think of it like pocket sand
You can advance on ranged enemies with M1 before breaking out into a dance with melee or M2
Using M1 effectively is how you win with Purgatus imo
prime elk
yeah sometimes you just need to force push your way out of a situation
plucky flax
No that's too hard
young summit
Purgatus primary trivializes most things tbh
Just CC the entire level
Scream when high peril
Repeat
hushed heart
I too scream whenever I am in high peril
jovial juniper
I'm more of a maniacal laugh type
haughty star
sssssssssdw
young summit
Understandable
haughty star
don't tab over in a match folks
slow cloak
im trying to decide on my second blessing for my purgatus after warp nexus
haughty star
blaze away
for everything
and the brittleness one is good for bossing from what i'm told
slow cloak
my problem with blaze away though is that the stacks disappear the moment you stop firing
young summit
On the other hand
prime elk
yeah it comes back so quickly it's not an issue
young summit
Run n gun is funny on Purgatus
haughty star
personlaly the last thing i want for purg is to be less powerful lol
slow cloak
and blaze away affects the burn damage?
haughty star
yes
prime elk
Run n gun is funny on Purgatus
it used to be better tbh, but now i feel like it's hard to slot it in when other really good options exist
it's still funny for the meme though
young summit
Yeah I'm memeing
slow cloak
ok looks like if i immediately start m1'ing after my m2, i can maintain my blaze away stacks long enough for things to die
i suppose thats pretty efficient
although i might just choose the brittleness one just because its just straight up damage with no contingencies
summer prairie
Blaze away is a massive damage boost even if you don't try to maintain the stacks, but you can charge your m2 nearly to 50% without dropping them. It's not a significant difference either way since it goes back up to max stacks very quickly
dusk void
Guys, I realized that I suck as a player 😔
hollow jolt
ashen trellis
does staff damage count as warp attack?
ornate hamlet
what is a meta psyker build?
slow cloak
does staff damage count as warp attack?
the m1's and m2's count yeah but not special poke
ashen trellis
the m1's and m2's count yeah but not special poke
so the right click zap on electrokinetic staff isn't a warp attack?
orchid ibex
it is
ashen trellis
ah ok
rigid sky
Special poke is that janky shitty bash attack all staves have
slow cloak
the right click is a warp attack, what i meant is when you press the special attack button where he does the physical thrust- that one isnt
dusk void
what is a meta psyker build?
I would honestly say gunker
Or blazing trauma staff/purgatus staff with hella soulblaze stacks
ornate hamlet
Or blazing trauma staff/purgatus staff with hella soulblaze stacks
What is soulblaze?
nocturne dust
what is a meta psyker build?
Any staff build
slow cloak
its the fire damage from psykers (characterized by the blue flames)
jagged quarry
Are you less of a psyker because you use a gun and not a staff?
patent mango
Are you less of a psyker because you use a gun and not a staff?
no gun is like 1/3 of the builds
jovial juniper
Are you less of a psyker because you use a gun and not a staff?
They wouldn't dare question the insane person with a gun
patent mango
psyker needs dual revolvers
jovial juniper
jagged quarry
Why my gif didn't appear?
nocturne dust
grey name moment
patent mango
oh saltzpyre does have dual pistols i forgot that
pulsar hazel
Are you less of a psyker because you use a gun and not a staff?
Not really. Gunker has some of psykers top boss damage.
nocturne dust
Still not great boss damage outside of a couple guns, and none of them are really that good
jagged quarry
I see many psykers using the bolt gun
nocturne dust
Some people like it. They're crazy, but they do.
patent mango
bistol psyker is great
prime elk
I tried it and found that it annoyingly misses a lot of breakpoints
Ammo economy is terrible as well
jagged quarry
Can a gun really replace a staff?
prime elk
Oh yes
nocturne dust
Replace? No
Be a very poor substitute that does a whole lot less and requires a lot more effort? (subjective)
Yes
ornate hamlet
I started using it instead of a staff, it is pretty fun & requires more effort
dusk void
Can a gun really replace a staff?
Just save your team from hogging the ammo. Use a staff
jagged quarry
I feel like not using a staff is ignoring a part of the gameplay. I can use guns with all other classes
ornate hamlet
I only play as psyker so I like to switch it up a little after getting worn out from the same stuff
orchid shadow
Wearing out as Psyker? Heresy!
dusk void
I only play as psyker so I like to switch it up a little after getting worn out ...
Same. I have a knife zealot that I barely play but do it anyways for fun
prime elk
I feel like not using a staff is ignoring a part of the gameplay. I can use guns...
Nah I’ve spent plenty of time with staves. Gunker/stryker is fun in its own way
ornate hamlet
Same. I have a knife zealot that I barely play but do it anyways for fun
I just started experimenting with other classes after playing a psyker for so long, I am liking the thunder hammer with zealot but I miss my psyker lmao
prime elk
Very different from staff psyker gameplay
jagged quarry
But I have to say all staves are pretty boring
dusk void
But I have to say all staves are pretty boring
NOW THAT IS HERESY!!!!!!!!
jagged quarry
The light attack feels very underwhelming
ornate hamlet
Electric staff is my favorite & pretty fun zapping everything
nocturne dust
The light attack feels very underwhelming
Don't use the lights
jagged quarry
Electric staff is my favorite & pretty fun zapping everything
I use smite so it feels like using twice the same thing
dusk void
The light attack feels very underwhelming
Tf are you using the light attacks for?
prime elk
The m1 attack? With the right build it’s totally broken
nocturne dust
I use smite so it feels like using twice the same thing
They have very, very different purposes tho 
prime elk
Like cheese levels of broken
burnt gazelle
they should make staffs where you can combo lmb and rmb attacks like the ut2k4 shock rifle
prime elk
It's also boring
Why ruin the game for yourself when you can ruin it for three other people!
nocturne dust
You also have to use questionable tactics to make lmb spam broken
jagged quarry
It's also boring
Exactly
dusk void
LMB on staves have saved me from shitty situations
nocturne dust
Git gud
nocturne dust
Voidstrike doesn't need lmb ever, Voidblast and EK only really need it when there happens to be a sniper staying out of range but those moments are rare
nocturne dust
Can’t you tell that I’m a just a casual player?
All the more reason you can do whatever you want
dusk void
I only say that I’m a casual player b/c I mostly play on Auric T4 missions
split lance
bistol psyker is great
bistussy is amaing
broken carbon
swag
pliant tendon
there NEEDS to be a talent to make my self destructs stronger
so sad seeing my character go boom just to see the enemies survive
if i die i want to take the whole block with me
radiant frigate
warp rider will make you do 100 more damage while self nuking
what about the uh
malefic momentum
mossy oyster
I haven’t asked hahnda for the numbers on that but I can safely assume it will probably add another 100 dmg or some shit
and perils explosion will still be ass
nocturne dust
all you’re getting
dull osprey
there NEEDS to be a talent to make my self destructs stronger
suppose they just forgot it cuz in vt2 due to friendly fire siennas were actually casuing team damage 
pliant tendon
suppose they just forgot it cuz in vt2 due to friendly fire siennas were actuall...
who thought being able to shoot through your teammates was ok
i demand repercussions and bloodshed
nocturne dust
who thought being able to shoot through your teammates was ok
Me
It was a good idea, friendly fire is dumb
fringe garden
Yeah, lets just reduce the number of things that could cause people to rage at their teammates
clear heath
good thing we still have barrels for the pvp meta
fringe garden
We'll always have barrels
Had a noobie assail psyker kill me with one just yesterday. Pretty sure he had no idea what he'd done
radiant frigate
who thought being able to shoot through your teammates was ok
you guys can shoot through teammates?
pliant tendon
i like to shoot them just to let them know i'm nearby
tired estuary
suppose they just forgot it cuz in vt2 due to friendly fire siennas were actuall...
Add friendly fire dmg + the lit flamer death knockback to peril explosion imo
prime elk
I actually got the “kill 40 heretics in a single gaze activation” using Rashad.
nocturne dust
Add friendly fire dmg + the lit flamer death knockback to peril explosion imo
Don't.
prime elk
And then there’s me using stryker Rashad to win melee dps races against zealots and karsolas ogryns
hazy moss
i wanna try making a support psyker build
are there builds out there for smite/telekine shield
steady crag
Psykers can use the Super Shotgun!?!
jovial juniper
Yeah
pliant tendon
putting shame to all those "gun psykers" using baby weapons and tiny stabby pokers
even better if you pair your super shotgun with something like a chainaxe
...and idk since when but they can now use my fav melee weapon
mossy oyster
super shotgun needs to be paired with movement speed
pliant tendon
(that would be the heavy swords but haven't actually tried on psyker)
nocturne dust
(that would be the heavy swords but haven't actually tried on psyker)
Heavy swords are very bad on psyker
Meleeker moment
tired estuary
(that would be the heavy swords but haven't actually tried on psyker)
I don't think they're better for psyker than class specific melee weapons but they're fine
pliant tendon
A chain axe is going fucking nowhere
but go where?
with that kind of armanent they'll be running from you lmao
mossy oyster
super shotgun needs to be paired with movement speed
nocturne dust
bitch super shotgun doesn't need to do anything
mossy oyster
yea good luck running around using scriers at 2 movement speed with a chain axe
Im good
young summit
"I am Justice!" moves at a slow jaunt toward the scab gunner squad
pliant tendon
slimply walk at them menacingly
broken carbon
force dagger confirmed
zinc phoenix
that is some weird porn
pliant tendon
i swear they'd try to pair duelling swords with anything these days
broken carbon
that is some weird porn
it’s from the short story they posted
pliant tendon
under a pretense of "u need speed"
zinc phoenix
it’s from the short story they posted
reading video game stories? 🤢 i'd rather self brain burst
tired estuary
If I wanted to read I'd go to school
pliant tendon
also what's up with "needing" speed anyway
some things are about the journey, not the destination
mossy oyster
mk6 gunker is the truth
dull osprey
push stab with that finesse bonus is just chefkiss
you load in and 3 smykers in lobby
dusk void
you load in and 3 smykers in lobby <:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
Get wrecked son
I gave my smite build a try yesterday on an Auric T4 mission. Needless to say, did not use smite that much. But I only use it to stun enemies and then kill them quickly with my Surge Staff
prime elk
Smite builds can be fun if I just want to chill after playing a zoomer build
late sapphire
force dagger confirmed
salivating rn
nocturne dust
force dagger confirmed
I'll believe it when I kill heretics with it.
late sapphire
i think force dagger is mid tier out of all possible force weapons idk
late sapphire
force halberd...
mossy oyster
mossy oyster
i think force dagger is mid tier out of all possible force weapons idk
give my soyker an arc sword
thanks
broken carbon
oh but i want force dagger so baaad
if we got a 2h force weapon along with a more viable melee psyker build
i’d play psyker a lot more
late sapphire
dual force falchions...
mossy oyster
until death is a helluva drug
mossy oyster
if we got a 2h force weapon along with a more viable melee psyker build
waiting for obscurus to turn into a 2H FSword
and waiting for zealot to get a 2H CHaxe
god damn I want a fucking 2H Chaxe so bad on zealot its not even funny
(let us steal from maulers)
late sapphire
I swear to god
nocturne dust
i think force dagger is mid tier out of all possible force weapons idk
meh, idk, wat could be worse
late sapphire
If they add force greatsword and it's obscurus
nocturne dust
If they add force greatsword and it's obscurus
They add force greatsword and it is worse obscurus
late sapphire
I will be sending a packet of shit to the fatshark hq
late sapphire
meh, idk, wat could be worse
Don't ask what could be worse, ask what could be better ( a lot )
nocturne dust
Don't ask what could be worse, ask what could be better ( a lot )
Better: mace, greatsword, spear, halberd, axe, hammer, claw, gun, whip, chainsword, chainaxe, pike
heck, knuckles, nunchucks, at least they'd be funny
upper sun
if we got a 2h force weapon along with a more viable melee psyker build
malefic momentum on illisi
its pretty based
mossy oyster
😴
nocturne dust
Eh
MM is overrated
I don't give a crap about more damage
give me interesting buffs like more melee range or movement speed
upper sun
BAN
mossy oyster
i wouldnt say what he just said
mossy oyster
but Illisi with MM is NOT a 2H Fs-word
upper sun
yeah
mossy oyster
not even close
upper sun
im saying its good enough
mossy oyster
yea I did bloodthirsty scriers illisi 1 time as a meme
nocturne dust
im saying its good enough
not even close
mossy oyster
and I murdered 5 ragers and 3 maulers by spamming special and L1 trapped in a corner
is that fun?
yea
is it my fun?
no
zinc phoenix
I am down for a 2H force sword but idk how it would be different
heavy ember
is 410 stam curio real?
nocturne dust
Yes
upper sun
no
nocturne dust
I have 12
upper sun
420 minimum
nocturne dust
420 minimum
410 adds 3 stam
upper sun
does it
nocturne dust
It's 400 that is lying
upper sun
CHAT pls confirm
upper sun
i just want a second opinion
nocturne dust
I guess I can grab photo evidence just for you
dull osprey
400 is the lying one
heavy ember
is 400 everything lying?
heavy ember
17% toughness 400 real?
nocturne dust
uh, idk if 400 says 17% toughness
nocturne dust
I don't roll those
I've only got 420 toughness curios or 390
oh wait
I do have one 400
it says 16%
@upper sun just for u ♥️
delicate dove
Asking anyone, what enemies are included in bomber resistance? just the 2 grenadiers, or also tox burster?
upper sun
just because the other ones tick over to the max doesnt mean stam does
@mossy oyster whats the minimum rating for stam 3 again
is it 410 or 420?
mossy oyster
should be 410
upper sun
ok i believe you now
mossy oyster
unironically I lucked out on my first +3 stam so I never had to research that
(learned it later though)
upper sun
the old 75s also showed 3 in meatgrinder 3 on profile and 2.5 in game
upper sun
Meatgrinder hasn't been wrong for any of my testing yet.
i no longer believe you now
@latent mauve DORN whats the minimum rating for a max stamina curio
upper sun
ok i dont believe you
nocturne dust
Good. Now go spread your misinformation.
radiant frigate
i believe clad
nocturne dust
i believe clad
latent mauve
never belive clad
nocturne dust
I need a book of grudges.
radiant frigate
should i believe dorn
latent mauve
clad only plays marty rashad
upper sun
which illisi or deimos
radiant frigate
when in doubt flakiac
radiant frigate
dorn runs naked and abuses knife/DS4
ew wtf
mossy oyster
yea
hazy moss
which illisi or deimos
illsi
mossy oyster
dont meet your heroes
upper sun
illsi
flak maniac
THOUGH maniac is whatever now after the rager buff you really shouldnt melee them
latent mauve
clothed right now
upper sun
itll only help with muties
latent mauve
you also ran it
upper sun
so maybe flak unarmored
latent mauve
knife main
mossy oyster
yep because im goro majima
radiant frigate
THOUGH maniac is whatever now after the rager buff you really shouldnt melee the...
but what if you happen to get meleed by them
mossy oyster
im going shirtless
radiant frigate
the virgin scab rager vs the world ender dreg rager
latent mauve
maybe para was dawn priest all along
upper sun
but what if you happen to get meleed by them
block force push dodge slide backwards and switch to ranged
latent mauve
radiant frigate
block force push dodge slide backwards and switch to ranged
i weep
latent mauve
he really that bad?
latent mauve
clad level bad?
upper sun
WTF
mossy oyster
he really that bad?
Ive never played with him but just from his takes alone
i wouldnt wanna either
🕴️
upper sun
yamato and tintin are easily worse than me
latent mauve
tintin is not that bad
latent mauve
true
upper sun
idk ive seen him die 3 times in heresy
mossy oyster
he was learning after you
upper sun
he refused to use the build i sent him for psyker penance
radiant frigate
worse than me?
radiant frigate
🥹
radiant frigate
who me?
upper sun
yes
radiant frigate
i mean i am now
latent mauve
clad got ass without being carried (i think)
upper sun
the builds did carry
mossy oyster
but he did counter pick every maelstrom with the appropiate build (which why not right)
so you can make fun of him for that
latent mauve
I mean you didn't require people to carry you through it
upper sun
hey man i planned ahead but i did it fair
latent mauve
so you have a minor leg up on other zealot chat members
radiant frigate
"mostly ranged" maelstrom but there's 3 bubble psykers (it is now a safari)
upper sun
ill take it
mossy oyster
I got storm survivor in 1 morning
upper sun
"mostly ranged" maelstrom but there's 3 bubble psykers (it is now a safari)
me with 5 bubble regen auras on top
nocturne dust
"mostly ranged" maelstrom but there's 3 bubble psykers (it is now a safari)
Pacifist psyker play? 
latent mauve
IEF, IEF, I-II, I-II, I-II-V-E-G was mine
upper sun
dorn
wheat monolith
shock maul worth using?? also if you dont mind could i see a sparky build
upper sun
no one else knows what those mean
radiant frigate
Pacifist psyker play? <:pogryn:961977701533614130>
alternatively, "mostly ranged" maelstrom but one (1) crusher appears and solos all your teammates (they forgot that melee exists)
latent mauve
I only remember because i lined it up to finish with auric exemplar
mossy oyster
no one else knows what those mean
2 are monstro special waves, 3VEG is a no brainer, and IEF I do not know
analog agate
Pacifist psyker play? <:pogryn:961977701533614130>
That is what I should start calling smite support players. “ohhhhh, so you are a pacifist”
upper sun
nurg dogs ended my A.S.S. attempt run at 2/5
nocturne dust
That is what I should start calling smite support players. “ohhhhh, so you are a...
Bubble, non-EP smite, trauma with 0% damage
upper sun
no we need more rending
radiant frigate
no we need less rending so we can get more crit
upper sun
zealot should have a rending aura instead of 🥓 of purity
vet instead of movespeed and psyker instead of crit
and they should all stack
upper sun
BEACON OF PURITY SUCKS ASS
nocturne dust
and is neat for funny colors
upper sun
AND IT SHOULDNT BE IN THE GAME
upper sun
its in the marty keystone lane
it actively works against its keystone
it fucking sucks
nocturne dust
It would be neater if it worked regardless of wounds
hazy moss
@upper sun so you were saying flak unarmored?
if im correct isnt illsi the better horde clear one
mossy oyster
BEACON OF PURITY SUCKS ASS
loner is worse
nocturne dust
So many things are tied to wounds just to make wounds suck for no reason
radiant frigate
and they should all stack
REND
TEAR
HAHAHA
upper sun
since no way in hell im meleeing ragers and maniac would only help with muties
and unarmored would apply to more things
upper sun
loner is worse
loner at least has a theme
mossy oyster
loner at least has a theme
the theme of being dog shit
upper sun
beacon of purity legit does worse with its own keystone
mossy oyster
true
radiant frigate
loner (aura) is smelly
loner (psyker type) is great
nocturne dust
beacon of purity legit does worse with its own keystone
but I like not having corruption
mossy oyster
me when fortitude in fellowship a tier 1 Talent node has the loner passive and works better than the aura
upper sun
IT WORKS UNTIL THE NEXT WOUND
mossy oyster
radiant frigate
beacon of purity legit does worse with its own keystone
fucked up how "classic" zealot is not all on one side
upper sun
if you build according to fatshark (middle tree zealot lol)
nocturne dust
I've done middle tree zealot
radiant frigate
more of a bush really
upper sun
fucked up how "classic" zealot is not all on one side
i just want blitz picks to not point tax you on zealot
nocturne dust
also it's weird that the 'damage reduction on lost wound' node is left instead of middle
but the top is all sorts of messed up anyway
upper sun
all they have to do on zealot is make singular node before and after blitz pick
thats it
radiant frigate
real
upper sun
and make it before vet blitz
like blitz isnt as big of a deal for vets and zealots choice shouldnt be taxed
for ogryn and psyker its fine because imo its a bigger deal
nocturne dust
I mean that doesn't really fix the top
Makes it better, but the individual nodes just need work
nocturne dust
im being realistic
radiant frigate
hazy moss
so if the illsi is the best horde clear force sword whats the best single target dmg one
and r the blessings gonna have to be different
hazy moss
what abt the perks
broken carbon
so if the illsi is the best horde clear force sword whats the best single target...
deimos, uncanny slaughterer/precog/riposte (riposte only if ur going SG melee for crits)
cyan portal
why slaughterer over unstable power?
mossy oyster
slaughterer -> kill shit
hazy moss
why slaughterer over unstable power?
im saying, i feel like it would be better
broken carbon
why slaughterer over unstable power?
more power with slaughterer
mossy oyster
unstable -> needs peril
broken carbon
also that
hazy moss
what if i dont wanna kill shit with sluaghterer and i just wanna pull it out and hit a crusher in the head
mossy oyster
what if i dont wanna kill shit with sluaghterer and i just wanna pull it out and...
then have fun bonking it for 3 minutes
radiant frigate
what if i dont wanna kill shit with sluaghterer and i just wanna pull it out and...
executor i guess
mossy oyster
upper sun
https://tenor.com/view/pray-it-gets-easier-allison-ponthier-hell-is-a-crowded-ro...
is this from a song?
cyan portal
unstable is power is works on first hit
hazy moss
im wondering if i should swap out maniac perk for carapace
just in case i get into a close situation with a mauler
radiant frigate
and slow
upper sun
thats the real issue
radiant frigate
also very sneaky
no one expects the stealth mauler
hazy moss
what abt the fire staff?
i have crit/carapace
wondering if i should change to crit/elite
cyan portal
wondering if i should change to crit/elite
crit flak
cyan portal
most enemies are flak
nocturne dust
most elites are flak
cyan portal
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/enemies?
note that dots target 'center mass'
radiant frigate
except dreg ragers which eat nails for breakfast (without any milk)
hazy moss
ok but what if im doing my favorite mission in the game (scab only melee mostly)
wouldnt i want carapce instead of flak
radiant frigate
they almost make me want to switch off of laspistol
upper sun
for what weapon?
cyan portal
carapace on purga is always bad
hazy moss
for what weapon?
fire staff
upper sun
nah
nocturne dust
wouldnt i want carapce instead of flak
most elites are flak
upper sun
carapace wouldnt do much for soulblaze
radiant frigate
carapace chest is crusher only
upper sun
you need a melee option or brainburst for crushers
radiant frigate
and purga vs crushers is..
nocturne dust
also, yes, inferno does nothing to crushers even if you max crusher damage as high as possible
upper sun
yeah
radiant frigate
yeah
cyan portal
crushers take 0.1 soulblaze dmg, so even boosted it is still terrible
nocturne dust
Instead you just cheat and take a melee with uncanny
upper sun
or brainburst them
upper sun
if you want a purge build i can recommend this random person's build i use it too
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9c39d463-1cc1-4b31-a1e6-6656dbc7f336/firepilled-blazemaxxing-pogchamp
radiant frigate
preheat oven to 15 degrees of soulblaze
open the oven with uncanny
voila, perfectly cooked crusher
serves a party of 4
radiant frigate
siblings, burst his brain
upper sun
no its bad
nocturne dust
u go assail purge
no, I just don't use BB
upper sun
MODS break his knees
upper sun
this dude just blazes all game
doesnt even swap to blitz.........
its like you hate fun
EP BB is the most fun and engaging way to play purge
radiant frigate
we're the ones going "but you're having fun INCORRECTLY"
upper sun
thrust uncanny
nocturne dust
It's a beginner's course on inferno
nocturne dust
radiant frigate
read the notes
radiant frigate
fzvubfdu
nocturne dust
radiant frigate
<:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
does this mean we're both connected to the psyker hivemind now
upper sun
watch out if either of you peril you both peril
radiant frigate
I'm going to quell every morning
zinc phoenix
EP BB is the most fun and engaging way to play purge
The most fun and engaging way to play 🍔 atus is to delete the staff and play something else
nocturne dust
The most fun and engaging way to play 🍔 atus is to delete the staff and play so...
lies and deception from a dirty gunker
zinc phoenix
lies and deception from a dirty gunker
Voidstrike is indeed a gun
upper sun
The most fun and engaging way to play 🍔 atus is to delete the staff and play so...
blaze away does that already
nocturne dust
Voidstrike is indeed a gun
radiant frigate
The most fun and engaging way to play 🍔 atus is to delete the staff and play so...
🍔 @ 🇺🇸
radiant frigate
i don't play gunker
zinc phoenix
I do a little shotty gunker as a treat 😂
nocturne dust
i don't play gunker
I'm watching you.
nocturne dust
I do a little shotty gunker as a treat 😂
zinc phoenix
Double barrel’s problem is that it’s basically a shittier voidstrike
radiant frigate
Double barrel’s problem is that it’s basically a shittier voidstrike
surge voidstrike but minus the range and actually using 2 ammo for 2 shots
wild innit
nocturne dust
Double barrel’s problem is that it’s basically a shittier voidstrike
That's how it should be for exclusive vs. non-exclusive weapons imo
radiant frigate
That's how it should be for exclusive vs. non-exclusive weapons imo
this means all ogryn weapons should be juiced
zinc phoenix
Shield unlimited cleave go brrr
nocturne dust
this means all ogryn weapons should be juiced
but Ogryn has no non-exclusives, so...
radiant frigate
everything is exclusive..
nocturne dust
Right
but you can't compare to non-exclusives on Ogryn
because they don't exist
Ogryn with itty bitty combat blade when
radiant frigate
so rashad should be less funky
nocturne dust
I mean, Rashad doesn't have an exclusive counterpart in any of the classes afaik
Force Axe when
quasi lynx
vulkanite pistol when
radiant frigate
I want it to be Kruber's executioner sword
i want elf greatsword except with armor damage
but exec is cool too
also bret sword
tasty..
nocturne dust
i want elf greatsword except with armor damage
that sounds neat too
radiant frigate
force greatsword that builds peril with every swing and vents on block (and has a parry special)
ornate hamlet
What’s the most fun but good psyker build atm bc rn I’m running the azyr psyker I saw on games latern but I’m not really having fun with it
strong gulch
What’s the most fun but good psyker build atm bc rn I’m running the azyr psyker ...
Is this the build?
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ba81400-4c60-4362-9756-f93428dfc021/azyr-psyker-smite-venting-shriek-empowered-psionics-auric-ready
ornate hamlet
yeah it is not fun
strong gulch
yeah it is not fun
What don't you find fun about it.
That's not a dig.
It's finding what you like so recommendations can be made.
All of the staves are good.
ornate hamlet
tbh idk I think I just don’t like using a staff 😭
put so much time into grinding staff mastery tho
nocturne dust
Staves scale a lot harder and kind of need their full build to really feel great imo
Electrokinetic is the one that needs its full build the most, and that build above is not a staff build but a smite build
vale nacelle
based blaze trauma
quasi lynx
smite go burr
strong gulch
tbh idk I think I just don’t like using a staff 😭
Game lantern tends to have bad builds, and how you build really impacts how you play. Not saying that you still won't like staves, but your opinion on them may change with a proper build. Each of them are pretty different.
But in case you don't like staves at all no matter what, gunker (gun psyker) is quite strong.
nocturne dust
Gunker is... okay. I disagree that it's strong.
strong gulch
put so much time into grinding staff mastery tho
You don't have to used tho. Even after all of the that effort. They'll be there is you decide to pick one up for the odd match.
nocturne dust
but I notoriously hate gunker so I'm very biased
strong gulch
Gunker is different for sure. Less CC and more melee. More opportunity to get squished.
radiant frigate
but I notoriously hate gunker so I'm very biased <:KEKW_ogryn:102207718832290616...
i also hate it (aneurysm every time i see someone magdumping hordes)
prime elk
i also hate it (aneurysm every time i see someone magdumping hordes)
That’s something I see lugger ogryns doing
Most people who know how to build gunker wouldn’t be doing that
prime elk
That’s something I see lugger ogryns doing
Had one yesterday take 12 small ammo, 5 large, and then triple dip on the ammo crate at the final event
midnight hull
<:Prayge:1009108483033022485> based blaze trauma <:Prayge:1009108483033022485>
inferno force staff
midnight hull
Gunker is... okay. I disagree that it's strong.
gunker is broken good
strong gulch
Here's some standard staff builds.
Surge / electro / EK #psyker-class message
Purg / inferno #psyker-class message
Trauma / voidBLAST #psyker-class message
VoidSTRIKE is most like a gun out of the staves and has a few different builds. I don't have graphics and whatnot for that yet.
nocturne dust
gunker is broken good
For being broken good I've yet to see a single gunker ever impress me
strong gulch
I'm not a VS enjoyer. I just reference back to what @nocturne dust says on VS things.
nocturne dust
Voidstrike has a lot of things you can do with it. If you want something like a gun, it would be closest to what you want. That's not to say it is a gun though, it's still a staff and plays like a staff.
strong gulch
ye
radiant frigate
i still just look at it like Meatier Bolt Staff
mellow fox
psyker gun with most dps,
and melee with most dps
mellow fox
what 2nd perk do i put on this over infested?
personally elite or unyielding just for the QOL
QOL=quality of life
tropic vigil
TY
mellow fox
that or reload speed
clear heath
reload speed on a staff?
paper loom
Can anyone recommend perks/blessings for DB?
zinc phoenix
tbh idk I think I just don’t like using a staff 😭
this is a fun staff build guaranteed https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9d630810-c1f7-4004-8a3a-755de6c958bd
voidstrike works like plasma, the build is extremely mobile and you can swap to assail or stabbing and still perform well
cyan portal
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d193e5e-a68d-4ae2-b83c-464d91277430/high-warp-rez-inferno Now with an essay explaining why it is better than low warp resist Inferno builds. If you're trying to win damage meters, this is the way.
nocturne dust
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d193e5e-a68d-4ae2-b83c-464d91277430/hi...
puppetmaster
cyan portal
> puppetmaster
Oh I worked out the soulblaze damage to direct damage ratio thing. Sweeping wide over many targets in range applies the same dot per target as keeping mouse still, but does a lot less direct damage. So if you sweep a lot you will do a lot more dot dmg, but much less direct damage.
nocturne dust
Oh I worked out the soulblaze damage to direct damage ratio thing. Sweeping wide...
but I sweep
nocturne dust
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d193e5e-a68d-4ae2-b83c-464d91277430/hi...
Also, weapon swapping is no longer required between activations to generate peril.
cyan portal
Also, weapon swapping is no longer required between activations to generate peri...
They changed the Deimos?
broken carbon
but exec is cool too
mk15 evis
broken carbon
I want it to be Kruber's executioner sword
that’s literally just the mk15 evis
it’s copied exactly lol
pulsar hazel
that’s literally just the mk15 evis
Not really. On the surface maybe
broken carbon
the mk15 evis’ move set is copied from the executioners sword
pulsar hazel
The light attacks yes. The heavy has a completely different vibe and usecase. Push attack isn't useless.
broken carbon
The light attacks yes. The heavy has a completely different vibe and usecase. Pu...
the mk15 PA is useless lol
nocturne dust
They changed the Deimos?
That's how it was for all force swords. They fixed the bug where you had to swap.
pulsar hazel
the mk15 evis’ move set is copied from the executioners sword
Oh for sure, they're far from identical in gamefeel though.
pulsar hazel
the mk15 PA is useless lol
It's a fast attack that stuns ragers how exactly is that useless
broken carbon
It's a fast attack that stuns ragers how exactly is that useless
because you can just dodge backwards and heavy
it does fuck all for damage
it can’t even consistently kill dogs
velvet gate
Y'all are pretty knowledgeable
broken carbon
yarp
eternal widget
Psyker bros need some help
broken carbon
eternal widget
im trying to level my psyker rn, and this is my first character. Im wondering, does assail apply soulfire?
broken carbon
im trying to level my psyker rn, and this is my first character. Im wondering, d...
no
eternal widget
velvet gate
For now, I'll have to stop playing pysker. Between veteran zealot, what should I try?
eternal widget
Fuck
broken carbon
For now, I'll have to stop playing pysker. Between veteran zealot, what should I...
zealot
velvet gate
Honestly I am marvelled by the damage veterans can have against bosses
What is that gun?
broken carbon
Fuck
the only sources of soulblaze are perilous combustion, purg staff, and the blazing spirit blessing
broken carbon
What is that gun?
lol neigh any vet gun can do that
broken carbon
ok and
nocturne dust
broken carbon
vet is boring
velvet gate
So zealot?
stark crown
For now, I'll have to stop playing pysker. Between veteran zealot, what should I...
veteran is also fun
broken carbon
So zealot?
yea
broken carbon
veteran is also fun
vet is boring don’t listen to this foul demon
mossy oyster
if you want to use ranged more - vet
if you want to turn your brain off and melee more - zealot
stark crown
vet is boring don’t listen to this foul demon
Zealot is boring don’t listen to this foul witch
brazen rampart
Exe stance vet is fun. Voc is not.
mossy oyster
people wont tell you cause they're biased
but thats basically how you pick and choose
broken carbon
Zealot is boring don’t listen to this foul witch
cyan portal
That's how it was for all force swords. They fixed the bug where you had to swap...
The fixed the Illisi, with the Deimos you still need to weapon swap.
nocturne dust
You should just play more psyker
broken carbon
*Exe stance* vet is fun. Voc is not.
get this man a true
brazen rampart
Zealout is fun until you realize every build is the same but with different keystones.
buoyant maple
Veteran is fun, period
velvet gate
You should just play more psyker <:chadgryn:1161142998214656090>
I want to but I can't get too far ahead of my friends
buoyant maple
nocturne dust
The fixed the Illisi, with the Deimos you still need to weapon swap.
You sure? I'll have to test that now
brazen rampart
@velvet gate go play zealout, it'll teach you to be neck deep in elites while you're meleeing without getting mulched.
Which seems to be a core skill most psykers lack.
nocturne dust
I mean
brazen rampart
Not saying you do, ofc, I'm just stating it as a fact.
nocturne dust
that skill won't transfer
brazen rampart
Oh it definitely will.
strong gulch
but I sweep <:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
nocturne dust
because zealot gets tons of things psyker doesn't
brazen rampart
You would be dead wrong on that.
broken carbon
that skill won't transfer
if u suck yea
velvet gate
True. I don't understand how melee heavy spam works against elites
stark crown
Veteran is more for it you’re looking for an even split between melee and ranged
velvet gate
I get railed so fast
brazen rampart
if u suck yea
Get this gal a true.
cyan portal
You sure? I'll have to test that now
Tested before I replied. Illisi is back to working how it used to, Deimos remains the same as its always been.
velvet gate
I've gone down the most trying to use that stupid dueling sword 😭
nocturne dust
Tested before I replied. Illisi is back to working how it used to, Deimos remain...
Fatshark lying again
broken carbon
True. I don't understand how melee heavy spam works against elites
dodging, spacing
nocturne dust
Smh my head
stark crown
I've gone down the most trying to use that stupid dueling sword 😭
That’s probably your issue
brazen rampart
In fact, I would wager that melee psyker is capable of more damage than zealout is.
stark crown
It’s not great at horde clear
You tend to want to focus more horde clear melees with Zealot and Vet
buoyant maple
Ogryn: melee tank/magdump
Psyker: ranged class
Zealot: agile melee class
Veteran: melee & ranged hybrid
broken carbon
In fact, I would wager that melee psyker is capable of more damage than zealout ...
sorry pookie but no
nocturne dust
In fact, I would wager that melee psyker is capable of more damage than zealout ...
Eeeeeeeeeehhghhghhhhhhhhhgghhfhfhfhf
no
brazen rampart
Like, yeah, zealout gets fotf, but psyker also gets an insane amount of finesse damage between scriers and DD.
stark crown
Ogryn: melee tank/magdump
Psyker: ranged class
Zealot: agile melee class
Veteran...
^ honestly how I would explain the classes
mossy oyster
duelist is literally a huge increase in dmg just for playing normally in melee
brazen rampart
Plus warp rider and one with the warp making you a monster.
velvet gate
dodging, spacing
That's what I would think with precog and riposte but I just don't got the schmooves
nocturne dust
Like, yeah, zealout gets fotf, but psyker also gets an insane amount of finesse ...
Neither of which have 100% uptime
buoyant maple
In fact, I would wager that melee psyker is capable of more damage than zealout ...
Nah
mossy oyster
psyker has nothing like that
velvet gate
And after all if I'm dodging at the end of the day, why not electro staff?
broken carbon
psyker does not have duelist
found out in vet chat earlier that vet can have a higher, unconditional finesse than zealot with duelist lol
mossy oyster
even remotely thinking psyker might be stronger than zealot in melee when zealot literally has duelist
cyan portal
<:loregryn:1036580674741731379> Fatshark lying again
"Fixed an issue where some of the weapons with a Special activate action failed to correctly refresh their activation if the Special action was performed again while in the active duration of a previous Special activation." If that's the patchnote you mean, I don't see the lie.
mossy oyster
is funny
mossy oyster
found out in vet chat earlier that vet can have a higher, unconditional finesse ...
vet moment
dont forget vet has free rending !!!
buoyant maple
found out in vet chat earlier that vet can have a higher, unconditional finesse ...
Duellist goes higher