psyker-class

[haughty star]

The "Tatarus"

[ripe obsidian]

I'm on my third G502, I think. I buy a backup whenever they go on sale for like $30.

[haughty star]

Mainly just keep that thing around for the extra flash on my desk and it's nice being able to backboard the full size when I got my vkbs setup

[ripe obsidian]

I'd really like to get a wireless mouse with a recharging mousepad

[haughty star]

Yeah that's the thing I like about my naga pro v35 or whatever it is

Wireless don't feel wireless anymore

[ripe obsidian]

I'm honestly curious if the double-clicking keyboard is what's killing me with peril quelling. Tap Q, get a double-tap, end up back on staff, LMB, dead

[echo root]

Does it only happen with specific keys?

[ripe obsidian]

Nah, it seems to be most of the keyboard

I've also been having the blue LED go out on a bunch of keys, because I am extra and want a pretty keyboard

Never the red or green. Just blue.

[echo root]

You can try with some of these, worst case you wasted 5 euro

[ripe obsidian]

I think I have some o-rings around from when I was installing new fans

[echo root]

Should be slightly tight, they should stay in place around the keycap hole

Why does this dumb game round down my 3 stam to 2 stam

I've spent over 7k trying to get 410+ 3stam

My 400 3stam rounds down in a real mission and up in the testing area

[ripe obsidian]

Because it hates you.

[haughty star]

https://youtu.be/ZTMBqNbHUrs?si=v575o0f3_DISRQjN

Funny Warhammer man talks about amd

[kindred ivy]

gotta say

crit purgatus

fun as fukc

but smite is still me favourite

[lament sapphire]

Can you fix this please lol, getting a haircut and will check back in a few

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d60df9a-116d-43c1-8022-c7d5a8971226/assail-gun

[paper loom]

lads what blessings and perks are good on Demios?

[upper sun]

ogryn gameplay

[upper sun]

maniac carapace/unyielding

uncanny+precog/deflector/slaughter/executor/unstable

[paper loom]

ty mate

[upper sun]

np

[split wren]

Look man Brainburst sucks, Assail and Smite (mostly) work for what they do. At least do one of the three;

1. Massively decrease charge time
2. Remove the melee brainburst cooldown to give the Psyker a true melee ability
3. Have brainburst stun anyone from the beginning of the charge, not the last moment of the charge.

That's all I'm asking for. I can live with the other warp attacks.

[upper sun]

nah brainburst is fine

[split wren]

Its miserable to use

[upper sun]

smite do whatever you want with idc

[upper sun]

nuh uhhhh

@lethal lagoon hi

post 17 brainburst clips pls

[hollow jolt]

I was thinking make brainburst AOE

[upper sun]

yes YES and make smite deal 1200 damage

[echo root]

Brainburst is mostly used for super longrange or the auto proc

[hollow jolt]

brainburst is mostly used to path for Psykinetic Aura

UwU

[echo root]

Yeah that's the main reason you take it

[hollow jolt]

swap Assail and Brainburst Fatshark

trust me, nothing funny will happen UwU

[clear heath]

brainburst usage hits 0%

[hollow jolt]

omg but Mind in Motion value UwU

[split wren]

Is there ANYONE on the Dev team who'll listen to my plea, brainburst is VERY flawed in actual play especially against the other two.

[plucky flax]

Okay I'll buff it.

[upper sun]

yes plz buff smite

and brainburst

and assail

buff everything thanks

[ripe obsidian]

"I, as an armchair game developer, see myriad flaws in Brain Burst. Hire me and I'll fix the game with my zero experience."

[clear heath]

give smite 500 base damage without ep

nothing bad will happen

[upper sun]

yes

so tru sibling SO TRUU

also give purge blaze away

oh wait........

[clear heath]

very balanced

[broken carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-emoji-nerd-meme-radar-gif-26497624

[hazy moss]

whats the dump stat on the elctro staff?

[ripe obsidian]

Man, when I worked in tech support at Zenimax, I got so many emails of people explaining "how to fix the game"

I'm sick of it

[broken carbon]

ok but like

we actually know what we’re talking about lol

[prime elk]

Crit damage iirc

[hazy moss]

ok ty

but why is it crit dmg

[upper sun]

warp res

welll

depending on what you wanna do

[hazy moss]

i wanna do a lot of dmg

[upper sun]

m1 spam or channeled attack usage?

[ripe obsidian]

So did the guy who wrote an essay calling us "Purple dicksuckers" because of how PvP was set up in ESO. He told us like 8 times in the essay he knew what he was talking about.

[hazy moss]

channel attack

[upper sun]

then warp res

[prime elk]

M1

[upper sun]

if you wanna clickmaxx its channel speed

or charge speed

[haughty star]

Man idk where to even start here lol

[upper sun]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saQu2YKIs9M

[broken carbon]

ok but most of us actually do lol

like i know exactly what im talking about regarding the mk3 evis, most psyker players agree that brain burst sucks and needs an extremely specific build to make it even kind of work

[haughty star]

I mean

This would probably be the most impactful usage of it

Like a more powerful trauma blast centered on a target

It is kinda already with pc tho

[upper sun]

this for gunker maybe

[haughty star]

I personally run this for gun psyker with recon 12 and ds4 or deimos

[upper sun]

no gaze

[prime elk]

Can it be a gunker with no gaze ? 🤔

[upper sun]

bro isnt gazmaxxing

[haughty star]

Shriek more impactful in the long run

Dd does heavy lifting anyway

[upper sun]

hes not parttaking in the psyker gaze

[prime elk]

It’s not a gunker without gaze

[broken carbon]

gunker without gaze is insane

[haughty star]

It works well

[broken carbon]

if ur noob

[glacial socket]

Bro has peril in real life, is he crazy

[haughty star]

Gtfo zealot lol I do maelstrom with this

[upper sun]

i like warp exp with gaze because u get toughness while ulting :333

[prime elk]

I prefer memeing with gaze and siphon

[broken carbon]

someone can’t handle my swag

[glacial socket]

I can't talk about gunker though, don't really play it

[upper sun]

NO GAY????

[prime elk]

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-w-gus-fring-gus-gustavo-deleted-gif-25440636

[haughty star]

I saw that

[glacial socket]

Erm.... emperor. Smite this man

[upper sun]

YEAH SMITE HIM

HEY WAIT A MINUTE....

[stuck sinew]

I was gonna reply to this but chat outran me

[glacial socket]

Hit em with the base smite w/o EP to make em suff3r

[upper sun]

no heretic is free from the psyker gaze

[stuck sinew]

Gaze psykers everywhere

[haughty star]

But yeah i like shriek assailgunker

[upper sun]

objectcorpuseifying them

[prime elk]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-everything-burns-kill-it-with-fire-saving-private-ryan-dogecoin-gif-22358996

[glacial socket]

You see we all watched a single meta video online so that's what you have to play

Sorry it's the rules

[broken carbon]

i despise darktide youtubers

[upper sun]

can we NOT do Darktide brainrot?

[broken carbon]

all of them

[glacial socket]

Mister E told me it's bad so don't use it

[haughty star]

If we're talking meta than its shriek. Shriek is so impaftful for damage lol

[broken carbon]

telopots is at least good but his community is awful

[upper sun]

what no way...........

[glacial socket]

The game isn't that hard to need hyper optimization I feel

[upper sun]

(its legit 4 people)

[prime elk]

Imagine interacting with influencer fans

[broken carbon]

his discord server is very typical 40k fans

look up any slur n there’s a ton of them lol

[upper sun]

i cant im banned

[broken carbon]

why

[upper sun]

i made a joke that was too far for them...........

[glacial socket]

Those type of fans give 40k a bad name

[upper sun]

i joked about having a buttplug that triggers when scab melee is up so i can play trauma staff there

[prime elk]

What was the joke? 🤔

[upper sun]

100% worth it

[mossy oyster]

you made a joke but it made fun of something I enjoy

[haughty star]

40k is kinda cringe but most irl 40k fans I know are like normal people

[mossy oyster]

i just cant.....

i need a moment

[glacial socket]

Link the mod please

[upper sun]

[glacial socket]

If chess players can do it than so can we

[broken carbon]

LMFAO

that’s awesome

getting banned for that is insane

[glacial socket]

40k incels trying to understand satire (impossible)

[upper sun]

satire?

i mean yes satire.

totally

[glacial socket]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/935989994735169546/1245534485454393465/image0.gif

[late yew]

That does not look like a fun lobby

[late yew]

Yes, sentence him to touch grass

[mossy oyster]

use your plug idea

but combine it with scriers Ciag

(I hope you die)

😇

[upper sun]

peril based buttplug

[mossy oyster]

that would be pretty wild with a shriek build

unsanctioned get on it

[glacial socket]

New psyker meta????

Tanner video coming out soon

[late yew]

how... how does it work?

[mossy oyster]

battle meditation and purloin providence FINALLY have a use

[jovial juniper]

Slaneeshi propaganda

[mossy oyster]

🙏

[upper sun]

more peril more vibrations

[upper sun]

zero doubt in my mind he'd do it

[abstract totem]

Would the trauma staff be redundant with assails

[late yew]

Everything redundant with trauma

[glacial socket]

This is true

I feel trauma would cover horde clear plenty unless you want assail to snipe gunners and what not

But I feel BB is better for that

[abstract totem]

I c I see

[lament sapphire]

I will try this; i absolutely hate scriers gaze

[prime elk]

But why

It’s quite fun with the funny movement speed subnode

[haughty star]

It leaves you with no great option for heavy trash cleanuo

[prime elk]

That’s a weapon choice issue

[haughty star]

There is no weapon that cleans up trash like vent

[abstract totem]

But you can just substitute it tho

You lose a lot of value from scrier

[prime elk]

Yah it’s almost as if the ult focused on trash clear is really good for its intended use

[haughty star]

Yeah and that's a area gunker is really lacking in. Dd and mm cover most of the damage side of things when it comes to gunker

Not saying running scriers is wrong I'm just saying gunker without scriers is perfectly viable and enjoyable to some

[prime elk]

Easily fixed by taking melee weapon that can deal with hordes

Melee scriers is pretty funny ngl

[haughty star]

So literally illisi always which is already a mandatory bet for so many other builds

[prime elk]

I use the Rashad because I’m sick in the head

[haughty star]

Yeah you are holy fuck

[prime elk]

And because it’s funny chopping up heads like firewood

[thorn cedar]

i haven't touched an illisi in fucken years

[prime elk]

Something skulls for the golden throne

[haughty star]

Yee I'm not downplaying scriers gunker at all. It's just venting gunker is also really good

[thorn cedar]

ive probably used the obscurus more

[prime elk]

What do you like about it?

Haven’t tried it much

[haughty star]

I like the way illisi cleaves through hordes

[thorn cedar]

i dont. i just like illisi even less

[prime elk]

Yeah I’m not a fan either

[thorn cedar]

deimos for life

[haughty star]

Just smooth. One of the few melee I feel they got the "feel" down on

[thorn cedar]

obscurus isnt all that bad though but its moveset doesnt do it any favours

[prime elk]

I don’t like the feel of it personally

[thorn cedar]

still the OG force sword after all

[prime elk]

That’s the one force sword I use

[thorn cedar]

i used illisi for about a week when it was new, then swapped to deimos, and never swapped back

im not gonna say the illisi is bad, because it fucks hella hard

but its boring

its very boring

[ripe obsidian]

I am also an Illisi fan

[haughty star]

The moveset is basic but it doesn't feel clunky and I appreciate that

[thorn cedar]

its all just sweeps

I actually would love a fourth force sword that was all sweeps but the activate was single target

[echo root]

What's the point of a horde clear melee when you have Shriek

2/4 staves destroys hordes

Electro is fine vs horde

Strike is strike..

[mellow fox]

whats a recomended assail build

dm me the build

[haughty star]

Ohhh fugggg

[haughty star]

There's two above

Scroll up

On the one on top id personally get rid of WE and grab the recharge assail node

But i hate waiting on assail cuz i love spamming it

[steep estuary]

I remember when I first got assail and it was basically a primary. Then the recharge got increased

Honestly I think that did teach me not to rely on one thing and diversify

[jovial juniper]

Early assail was completely fair and balanced

[abstract totem]

Totally

I love obscurus btw

[mellow fox]

this one?

[late yew]

no, left click spamming more effective for that

[mellow fox]

whats the overall best chain axe

[narrow herald]

for trauma do yall prefer Inner tranq or Essense harvest? 🤔

[prime elk]

If you’re gonna use chainaxe might as well use mk4 imo

[mellow fox]

explain

[upper galleon]

Mk4 slightly

More versatile toolkit

[mellow fox]

whats overall best chainsword

[upper galleon]

Sweeping PA and heavy sweeps both have good stagger, lights partial revs does great single target dps without needing to manually rev

[upper galleon]

Mk4 or mk13g

[mellow fox]

overwall best

[upper galleon]

Whichever you like more

[mellow fox]

okay

[upper galleon]

Mk13g goes wrath, mk4 goes savage sweep

[mellow fox]

im running a dumb blessing

rev it up and

um

[upper galleon]

Should always be rampage+ 1, usually cleave, but shred also works

[nocturne dust]

I don't think I use either for trauma, lol.

[upper galleon]

Rampage tooltip is wrong it gives strength which is damage cleave stagger and not just damage

[mellow fox]

bloodletter

[narrow herald]

btw for purge staff, so yall still go hybrid EP with BB or full Warp Siphon? 🤔

[nocturne dust]

Warp siphon

[jovial juniper]

The Pygex combo

[nocturne dust]

Investing in BB is a losing game

[jovial juniper]

Rev Up Letter

[prime elk]

Yeah warp siphon

[narrow herald]

this is what I have for WS:

and this is for EP:

[marsh badger]

except with double shield wall, EP and KR its fun to chain burst gunner heads

[mellow fox]

im going that ona chainaxe if i go with it

[nocturne dust]

I would grab EE on a purg build

[narrow herald]

yeah but I dont know what to drop 😔

[nocturne dust]

essence harvest

[narrow herald]

maybe Quietide?

[nocturne dust]

no

Essence harvest

[narrow herald]

nah im good chief

[nocturne dust]

lol, your choice

[jovial juniper]

Have fun
You'll miss on Headtaker Slaughterer (Thrust on the 12) though

[narrow herald]

why not quietude?

[nocturne dust]

Quietude is better than Essence Harvest because one is completely on demand, and it ain't Essence Harvest

[narrow herald]

the only time i would be quelling tho is with vent

[nocturne dust]

They have comparable amounts of toughness regen when working anyway, but Essence Harvest isn't always working

[narrow herald]

if u trigger fire reborn over and over and over and over again I dont think it is comparable

[nocturne dust]

Purg doesn't generate that little peril

[narrow herald]

actually wait, do I really need EE?

i can just dodge

[late sapphire]

Does kinetic flayer work properly now?

[nocturne dust]

Fire Reborn is rng and only a 10% chance

[nocturne dust]

No, but you don't need essence harvest or warp battery either

[nocturne dust]

yes

still works on poxbursters tho

😭

[marsh badger]

it also does like maybe 50k dmg tops for a whole auric mael

[nocturne dust]

The real power in KF is being a PC enabler

but it's still eh and not hugely helpful

[analog agate]

Yes. It is why we use it now instead of KD on blazers build

[late sapphire]

Nah the real issue with kf is that it only triggers on targets you're already killing

[narrow herald]

WB is hard to measure its value because it's dependant on how frequenctly you proc FR

[late sapphire]

So maybe it does a lot of damage but you would have done that damage a sec or two later anyways

[nocturne dust]

It only tiggers on attacks that won't kill

[jovial juniper]

Yup
I'm playing a minigame called "Can BB proc KF and 1 shot that Crusher?"
It's (mid) peak

[late sapphire]

Yeah but even with purgatus ok nice it triggered on a near full health shotgunner... who i was purging... who would have died in about 4s...

etc

[narrow herald]

wait we forgot the best node in the entire tree 😔

[nocturne dust]

Warp battery has some value, but it's hard to stack that much between shrieks and even if you do the benefits are minor. It's not a terrible node.

[late sapphire]

Only targets it really helps with is ogryns and bosses

[nocturne dust]

but then you get PC quicker

and when it triggers on the crusher

Like I said, the benefit is you get PC that much quicker, letting you stack quicker, letting you kill quicker. Chain flame reactions.

[marsh badger]

and PC does how much damage? not that much, its helpful for clearing chaff out of mixed hordes which you're already doing with purg

[nocturne dust]

KF's not the best node, but it's alright. Comparable to and a bit above warp battery in terms of dps.

KF that is.

[nocturne dust]

Soulblaze scales exponentially.

Scale quicker good.

Helps you kill everything.

[broken carbon]

killing 2 elites will kill every chaff, killing 3-4 elites will kill every elite except crushers

[nocturne dust]

PC also stacks over Inferno's limit

[broken carbon]

also true

yummers infinite damage

[nocturne dust]

You did indeed forget Kinetic Deflection

[nocturne dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1004447866250613048/1295449409160478781/chiquichico-ezgif.com-instagif.gif

[analog agate]

Pfffttt who needs to block

[nocturne dust]

The psyker when they're about to be insta-gibbed by ten bajillion ragers

[analog agate]

Blast user who just keeps knocking em down

[broken carbon]

the blast user making me miss every single fucking swing

[analog agate]

I will admit a lot of my views don’t work as well with other builds haha

[analog agate]

Your welcome 😎

[nocturne dust]

Blast user waking up the daemon:

https://tenor.com/view/ultrasad-gif-23310565

[nocturne dust]

You're*

[broken carbon]

PC BB user waking up the DH

[nocturne dust]

KD Devil's Claw Enjoyer waking up the DH:

[broken carbon]

real

[analog agate]

I have luckily never had that happen. I have alerted them a lot though. Through walls. Very annoying

[nocturne dust]

Yeah psyker has quite a few things that want to wake up the DH

[broken carbon]

me, zealot, going to push the burster

assail psyker launching 4 shards

just look away from the burster

please!!!

[nocturne dust]

If I look away, the guy going to push inevitably fails

[late sapphire]

blast user psychically sending a blast over 3 walls and 2 minor obstacles from 60m away to knock over the crusher and make my charge hit its shoulder rather than its head

[broken carbon]

then they get burstered anyway

[broken carbon]

REAL

[nocturne dust]

but we're together 😭

[broken carbon]

then blowing it up bursts both of you

just push it!!!!!

psyker players when they have to engage in foul melee combat

[late sapphire]

i think assailing bursters is great

[broken carbon]

i think u should explode

[late sapphire]

if you aim it well you can knock it sideways and into the zealot

[broken carbon]

[nocturne dust]

I want 'on parry' blessings for claw

[late sapphire]

i just want a force dclaw with 100% block angle

is that too much to ask for?

[broken carbon]

what

it already is 100% block angle

[nocturne dust]

bullet parry

[clear heath]

give me a force sword with warp projectile as the special

saltzpyre in vt2 gets a fucking gun on their melee, let me shoot people with mine

[late sapphire]

imagine chaos waste boons...

[clear heath]

chaos wastes when?

[nocturne dust]

[late sapphire]

Eldrazor's Deflection

Parrying an attack makes you immune to damage for the next 2 seconds.

[abstract totem]

No i will not

[jovial juniper]

Parry only gameplay

[analog agate]

It made kingdom come deliverance gameplay boring after a while

Same with assassins creed valhalla

[late sapphire]

Hell yeah heresy normal board scab melee mael is up

[jovial juniper]

I have played a single CIVI in the last two weeks

[late sapphire]

Man i really wish darktide had chaos wastes

It's such a silly unbalanced mode but it's really fun

[jovial juniper]

I just hope they don't go hard on the grenades for DT

[late sapphire]

Imagine if they added bomb potion but it gave you infinite assail

[scarlet timber]

PLEASE HELP ME ME

WHAT IS THE BUILD

ON ALL STAVES?

[jovial juniper]

Gimme a sec

[nocturne dust]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d5f5cb5-afee-4f51-9393-b8429e8c6765/

Here, Inferno guide I'm still kinda writing but it should inform you

[jovial juniper]

Aight

[nocturne dust]

Now you do the other 3 staves

[jovial juniper]

I don't wanna

[nocturne dust]

[fiery stratus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tt5caJjKo-g

This may be the best theme to anything ever created, if you haven't heard it, treat yourself.

[narrow herald]

toughness regen?

[nocturne dust]

Mettle + Quietude is plenty on Inferno

at least imo

[narrow herald]

im talking about the curios

[nocturne dust]

Ah

Those are useful, I find toughness regen incredibly helpful but if you read my notes I specifically say curios are largely preference

[broken carbon]

yeah if ur noob

[narrow herald]

[nocturne dust]

No u

[scarlet timber]

when did

[narrow herald]

im surprised u dont take soulstealer

[nocturne dust]

Mettle regenerates plenty in the same situations Soulstealer does

and EE is more beneficial for the Inferno's weaknesses

[narrow herald]

ok now im starting to think you are coping

[nocturne dust]

Lemme go find my scoreboard of my last inferno game

[mellow fox]

i hope yall hate my build thats meant to get the keyboard warriors attention

[nocturne dust]

Oh wait I should censor this shouldn't I

Look at my damage taken

It just works

[scarlet timber]

this build seems off

i dont knoiw 😭

i cant spam as much

[nocturne dust]

It's an auric dam build 🤷‍♂️

If you don't want to do that, fair. Drop KF and take Soulstealer.

[clear heath]

this is pretty much what every inferno build ends up looking

[nocturne dust]

Yes

Take all the fire nodes

Go shriek

Go warp siphon

Very original

[clear heath]

One thing i've tried is swapping empathic evasion for soulstealer

idk it kinda feels the same anyways

[nocturne dust]

Yeh

I prefer EE just cuz it lets me save my dodges for melee

[mellow fox]

this is to hurt psyker mains

[scarlet timber]

i got a question

whats the build on zap satff?

[nocturne dust]

something like this

You can also use smite instead if you prefer

[jovial juniper]

I'm very pissed that you don't have true aim with Assail

[clear heath]

tfw staff builds on psykers are almost the same tree

[nocturne dust]

[strong gulch]

No this for blazing spirit illisi.

[nocturne dust]

actually voidstrike can differ quite a bit, but Scrier's being a finesse thing is problematic

[clear heath]

yeah voidstrike is the exception

trauma surge and purg are basically the same tree with like 4 points moved

[nocturne dust]

I mean I guess you can use the peril gen red on Scrier's instead of finesse but... that's trash

[nocturne dust]

Suffer

[analog agate]

All staff builds can be this pretty much. Which is really close to the original psyker before update 12.

Ignore the essence harvest in that pic

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, I really wish Scrier's wasn't such a crutch for gunker/meleeker

[analog agate]

Agreed

[narrow herald]

why not both 🤔

[clear heath]

honestly flayer is nicer than i expected

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, it feels satisfying

[analog agate]

Tbf, it always has. Even when it sucked.

….wait I get what you’re saying

[nocturne dust]

Except when it hits the poxburster, then I regret my life choices

[mellow fox]

ehheheh good hate it more

[narrow herald]

this is what I would do

all the saftey 😩

[nocturne dust]

no KD

0 safety

[mellow fox]

mine is worse

[strong gulch]

My favorite is when it used to proc on those clusters if 3 pustules that you have to pop.

[nocturne dust]

KD is psyker's safety blanket

[clear heath]

you also lost the 5% crit above kd

[narrow herald]

from your words "dont need it"

[abstract totem]

Gonna go ruin someone’s day with this

[nocturne dust]

😭 But I personally need it

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/i-need-it-spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-gif-4883506

[late sapphire]

just run a build that has it in the path anyways

by which i mean dd scryker

[nocturne dust]

and use DD? Ew, no

I only use DD for voidstrike, and begrudgingly at that

[clear heath]

i probably don't need kd 99.9% of the time, but i will scream if the situation comes up and i don't have it

[drifting elk]

is inferno staff a meme if you plan on not spamming m1

[nocturne dust]

no?

One of the strongest builds currently

[clear heath]

inferno very strong

[late yew]

When they remove Rolling steel

[clear heath]

it wasn't bad before and now it has 40% more power

[narrow herald]

there happy?

[nocturne dust]

I use KD so often just to get off the spicy res

[strong gulch]

Dang. Gotta sell a thing.

[drifting elk]

how would one build for this? standard shriek build?

[narrow herald]

idk the no soulstealer just doesn't make sense to me

[nocturne dust]

I dunno how you have managed to run out of dockets

[nocturne dust]

Try it

[narrow herald]

u know how much trash u gonna kill with inferno?

[nocturne dust]

Try it

[clear heath]

you just gain some much toughness it doesn't actually matter much

[drifting elk]

testing stuff is expensive

[clear heath]

you know how much trash you're gonna crit with inferno? you have mettle

[nocturne dust]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d5f5cb5-afee-4f51-9393-b8429e8c6765/

[strong gulch]

Simple. Try to roll for a trauma staff that has everything in at 80 except WR is below 40.

[nocturne dust]

Dang, it's so nice to have a build I can just point people to

No more explaining

https://tenor.com/view/sips-tea-stephen-a-smith-gif-13112895

[narrow herald]

but quintode is better?

[nocturne dust]

but why

[drifting elk]

seems about right, thanks

[mellow fox]

whats the fastest psyker build

[late sapphire]

scriers gaze dd knife psyker...

[nocturne dust]

Quietude is better because it activates when Mettle is not

[late sapphire]

60% speed boost or so max

[strong gulch]

ER too strong. When I do non ER builds I explode now.

[narrow herald]

u know what fuck all of this, Im going back to my EP build so I can have everything I want

[mellow fox]

but theres rev it up

[clear heath]

it ends up working at a better timing

[mellow fox]

for 25% with chainaxe

[nocturne dust]

Fair

[late sapphire]

pretty sure knife heavies make you faster than rev chaxe

[clear heath]

mettle for in combat
quietude for downtime
you have perfect toughness coverage already and they're both very strong on inferno

[nocturne dust]

Outguided

[late sapphire]

Either way, rev it up doesn't really make you faster because you get stuck after you swing the special attack

[narrow herald]

ahhh, much better

[late sapphire]

Being fast is not just about running fast

[mellow fox]

nvm 20

[mellow fox]

thats what i asked

what psyker build is the fastest

[late sapphire]

'is fastest' != 'runs fastest'

[mellow fox]

what

[late sapphire]

That.

[nocturne dust]

Fastest match times are indeed not the same as running the fastest

[mellow fox]

your punctuation is hurting

[mellow fox]

nvm

[nocturne dust]

Psyker can't stealth his way past objectives 😭

[clear heath]

fastest at killing or fastest at running?
anyways the answer is scriers gaze

[mellow fox]

whats the fastest at running

[late sapphire]

I gave you the answer above

[nocturne dust]

The EK staff murderizing everything on Shriek:

[late sapphire]

mettle scriers gaze (warp speed) and disrupt destiny are 15 20 and 20% speed boosts

[strong gulch]

Knife with the speed boost node from SG and DD

[late sapphire]

You want to run knife or dueling sword to go fast

[nocturne dust]

non-programmer moment

[late sapphire]

You have to keep attacking to upkeep mettle hence no chaxe

[nocturne dust]

Knife is faster

right?

[late sapphire]

Yes

[clear heath]

yeah it should just be knife with scriers and mettle

zoom

[late sapphire]

But you can't always just run, when you have to go through a group and the like i maintain ds is faster

[nocturne dust]

Nonsense, as a sedition player I can always just run

[late sapphire]

It's like parkour but instead of walls you have elites n the like

🤔 should i give up quick shards for one with the warp?

[narrow herald]

Time to get cheeky 😝

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9c52163a-2bca-4eb2-843e-59a898c7a526/bubble-staff?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[nocturne dust]

I would but I don't use assail that much

[clear heath]

I don't use quick shards either

[strong gulch]

If ur using a staff, quickshards is an easier drop.

[clear heath]

shards are up enough and i really don't like spamming them that often

[nocturne dust]

There are non-staffkers?

[late sapphire]

I guess i can throw out battle meditation also

[mellow fox]

new question what generates the most peril

[late sapphire]

quell cancel lmb spam probably

[nocturne dust]

Over time or in one attack?

0% warp res lmb spam

[late sapphire]

illisi stroking with low % warp resist

[clear heath]

yeah i was gonna say illisi

[nocturne dust]

I wouldn't know

[narrow herald]

stroke 😩

[clear heath]

scriers gaze at high stacks

[strong gulch]

Give us back chain stroking

[broken carbon]

it is back

they fixed that a bit ago

[late sapphire]

Quick question

When you go into the cosmetics for say a deimos

[strong gulch]

What??? I tried like 3 days ago and it wasn't working. Glad it's fixed!

[broken carbon]

it should be fixed at least

[late sapphire]

The camos for illisi and the forge livery for deimos show up right

I could swear there used to be deimos camo skins

Same with every other weapon really

I just want to make my deimos blue 😭

[haughty star]

Get one with dumped charge rate and those exact blessings and set up a macro

[strong gulch]

nop

[haughty star]

The best psyker has to offer

[opal spindle]

Only reason I chose psyker was to go full Palpatine and say “Go Force Lightning!”

[scarlet timber]

guys whats the build on

[radiant frigate]

only reason i chose psyker was magic sword (and also spooky eyes) (and also the ability to skip shooter encounters with old surge)

[scarlet timber]

accatran guns

on psyker?

do you need headhunter?

[nocturne dust]

I chose psyker cuz space magic

[radiant frigate]

dumdum infernus

[scarlet timber]

okayt thx

[scarlet timber]

i do too like why does your gun just randomly havem ore finess?

am i right?

[ripe obsidian]

Urf. I just got bullied by flamers. Went down 2x, both times because I got pinned right as a flamer was opening up. First time was a hound, second time was some gunners and shotgunners.

[hazy moss]

guys

what r the best blessings on the flamethrower staff

[late sapphire]

blaze away nexus

[ripe obsidian]

Nexus/Blaze Away

[hazy moss]

im thinking blaze away warp nexsus

[late sapphire]

das rite

[hazy moss]

how good is showstopper

i feel like showstopper blaze away can be rlly good

what about perks

im running flak and 5% crit chance as my perks

im wondering if i should put on some carapace

idk

i feel like it doesnt deal good boss dmg

[ripe obsidian]

The firestaff will not kill carapace

Bring a duelling sword or cry

[narrow herald]

wait why did u get penetrating flames instead of WN? 🤔

[ripe obsidian]

Flake and 5% crit is fine

[narrow herald]

fine what?

[late sapphire]

bosses are not carapace...

[radiant frigate]

+cara on purg only hits crushers right

[late sapphire]

yes

same as surge rmb

and soulblaze

[nocturne dust]

specifically

[nocturne dust]

showstopper is a joke

[buoyant maple]

Does kinetic flayer’s BB hit use EP-BB damage profile if I have EP

[drifting elk]

how build ep bb

[jovial juniper]

Yes

[nocturne dust]

Ep damage, yes

[buoyant maple]

Nice

[late rune]

is there any known exploit with the psyker staff? some guy was using it rapid firing so fast it looked like a continuous beam doing absolutely broken damage, so much we just left cos it wasnt fun lol, i know theres some animation cancel shenanigans that are possible with some weapons but this was waaay to fast for just that maybe animation cancel plus a macro? think it was lightning staff, dont play psyker myself but friend who mains pysker was in the match and said had to be cheating

[nocturne dust]

It's not an exploit, it's just quell cancelling macro

[buoyant maple]

It’s not an exploit, somehow

[nocturne dust]

because Fatshark are chads

[buoyant maple]

It needs to get nerfed tho

[late rune]

yeah ive seen a video showing the animation cancel on staff this was that on steroids, like waaaay faster

[nocturne dust]

macro makes it go faster

[orchid ibex]

yeah people use a macro to just hold down lmb and basically do it as fast as possible

[late rune]

like im guessing animation cancel combined with a macro, which is basically cheating not just exploiting animation cancel no?

[jovial juniper]

#psyker-class message

[clear heath]

wait inferno has showstopper now?

[narrow herald]

I also understand that it is to proc the soulblaze perks onto unyielding targets.

But why don't u have maniac on the DS, isn't it pretty important to one shot mutants and ragers?

[nocturne dust]

It's not cheating according to Fatshark.

[buoyant maple]

It’s not cheating, it’s just so strong that it shouldn’t be in the game

[jovial juniper]

Yeah

[orchid ibex]

it's not cheating, it's just indistinguishable from cheating

[nocturne dust]

thrust lets you oneshot maniac ragers and mutants (the flak ragers live regardless)

[late rune]

manipulating animation cancel isnt cheating, but a macro? i mean a macro like hold down left click to auto attack to spare your fingers with a fast weapon im fine with but this? it seemed beyond broken and just ruined the lobby for us

[nocturne dust]

(you do need uncanny stacks for the ragers)

[narrow herald]

with how many stacks of thrust?

[nocturne dust]

1 for mutant, all for rager

[narrow herald]

because I am not about to wait 3 seconds to take out a rager

[orchid ibex]

@late rune hopefully they patch it out, it does ruin the lobby

[nocturne dust]

lol, take 2 shots and get hit inbetween then

🤷‍♂️

[narrow herald]

u cant block while thrusting what

[nocturne dust]

Also ragers are less important because inferno staff

[nocturne dust]

You can be out of their range before thrusting tho

[buoyant maple]

Yes it ruins games
Until it gets nerfed/patched I’d suggest u just leave games if u don’t want to play with these people

[narrow herald]

isnt that the same with attacking twice?

"just dodge"

[nocturne dust]

no because you have to be close enough for both attacks, that opens you up twice

Also again

just use inferno

idk why you would use DS for ragers with inferno right there

[narrow herald]

well ccing them doesn't actually kill, but I'm mostly talking about the use case of having to use DS for maniacs

[nocturne dust]

Ccing doesn't kill them, but you can spam lmb to their death or just lmb then rmb

and it doesn't take that long

but yes, if you don't have a ranged option for ragers, I would recommend maniac over unyielding

[narrow herald]

carapace makes sense because u cant CC or Hurt crushers so is unyield, but flak is for what?

[nocturne dust]

but like, every staffker eats ragers at range

[nocturne dust]

Ah, see, this is why it's unfinished. I was still examining melee 😭

[broken carbon]

yeah

[nocturne dust]

It would probably be better to take something other than flak, yes

[narrow herald]

i thought the reaosn why u picked flak was because of soulblaze

that's why I originally asked

[nocturne dust]

Eh, not really

I mean flak on inferno, yes

but on DS, nah

[narrow herald]

with thrust I would assume unyiled and cara would be best, but I would prefer maniac myself just so I don't need to hold the thrust an extra second longer

[narrow herald]

no that's not what I mean, it's soo that after you spray with inferno you then switch to your DS and spam attacks to get uncanny up

[nocturne dust]

If you take +maniac I'd probably switch thrust to agile

[nocturne dust]

I mean you can do that but you're going to have a hard time making that useful over just spamming more flame

as long as crushers and bosses aren't involved

[calm scarab]

I've discovered that maxxing out peril in the Psykhanium with Crystaline Will does indeed give you corruption

[nocturne dust]

yes

[calm scarab]

Very interesting

[jovial juniper]

If you explode a Tox flamer

The pool of fire will be able to damage your toughness

[calm scarab]

Huh, neat

[narrow herald]

hmm im not sure if I should replace my crit chance with unyielding

[nocturne dust]

You don't have to.

[strong gulch]

Crit chance is a general / all purpose perk. Unyielding is if you want to do something specific.

[narrow herald]

decisions decisions 😔

[nocturne dust]

Unyielding is imo more useful because it helps kill reapers/bulwarks faster. Reapers can be a problem in groups, and Bulwarks will infuriate your teammates.

but crit works fine if you don't mind those enemies sticking around a lil longer

[strong gulch]

If you're gonna swap to melee anyways for bosses, you have even less reason to put unyielding on your purg / inferno since SB DOT will take on the unyielding (and uncanny) buffs from your melee.

But it's nice to have unyielding if you are flaming down a horde and a boss; plus bulwarks and reapers exist.

Yip

[narrow herald]

i usually put maniac/carapace on my DS

[spiral sky]

big fish

[strong gulch]

You can keep that. Though, with unyielding and uncanny, you can boost the SB DOT damage.

[strong gulch]

Either way, it's fine tho.

[buoyant maple]

I just run flak + maniac on mine

I have triple crit chance from talents

Goes to like 42.5% crit chance at high peril

[fiery stratus]

when the ai director sees you make a mistake

[strong gulch]

I can hear the director giggling and then go "poo... 😞 ".

[cyan portal]

@nocturne dust do you have any recorded runs of your purgatus build? curious to see it in action as I'm inclined to disagree with a few choices but prefer to judge something in action rather than theory.

[nocturne dust]

#psyker-class message

I'm not at my PC right now to post others

[restive pecan]

will i ever get this 😭

[cyan portal]

scoreboards kinda hard to judge meaningfully, ie this is my max peril resist score. The most interesting difference being the ranged dmg to soulblaze dmg ratio.

[ripe obsidian]

Green dogs are rude. Green dogs see me trying to stagger them and laugh in my face. Then eat my face.

[nocturne dust]

Sure, which is why you run it a couple times to test

I don't have any fully recorded runs tho

[cyan portal]

I'll be curious to see if your ranged dmg vs soulblaze dmg ratio is improved on other scores when you get back to your pc.

[nocturne dust]

Mmmm that's not a great way to measure purgatus imo

[cyan portal]

It isn't perfect I agree, but it is a pretty good proxy for judging the effectiveness of high/low warp resist, as the argument for low warp resist is more ults (which are pure soulblaze dmg), and high peril buffs to soulblaze dmg/applicaiton (better buff maintanance = higher soulblaze ratio).

[nocturne dust]

the buffs also buff direct damage tho

[cyan portal]

True, but generally more things are ticking soulblaze than you're hitting directly, so better buffs will push the ratio towards soulblaze.

[nocturne dust]

no that won't change the ratio

If the ratio is 2:1 and you multiply both sides by X, you get 2:1

[clear heath]

I think their argument is that having more peril and ulting more wouldn't boost your ranged damage, only soulblaze
so the ratio would tell you how much it's hurting how often you can F.

I don't think peril resist really hurts F uptime much at all, but i think that was their point

[nocturne dust]

Right, but that's solely about shrieking and I'm not sure I have anything controversial about that in this build

[nocturne dust]

Depends how much you use shriek. I almost always use it straight off cooldown.

[clear heath]

I think even with peril resist, you can probably build enough peril to shriek right away if you really tried

[cyan portal]

Your ratio math does seem right. I am just kinda puzzled by why my soulblaze ratio is so much higher, and the only real difference between our builds is warp resist.

[nocturne dust]

You can, but it's a lot more annoying to do that

[clear heath]

yeah it is

[nocturne dust]

penetrating flame?

[cyan portal]

nope, running nexus blaze

[nocturne dust]

Exactly

Penetrating Flame tends to benefit direct damage, I use PF

(PF still benefits soulblaze, it's just the way it stacks and the lack of crits from warp nexus making direct damage benefit 'more')

I average 2:1 soulblaze to direct damage on matches with PF

[cyan portal]

I guess I'll try PF for a few runs and see what impact it has to my ratio.

[nocturne dust]

[cyan portal]

Do you do short or long secondary channels?

[nocturne dust]

I have a habit of half-charging rmbs

[strong gulch]

Don't forget the player differences. Same builds, different players.

[nocturne dust]

Potato forgetting the chat is a hivemind, smh my head

[strong gulch]

Potato forgot a thing?? Always

[cyan portal]

Yes, that is why my first question was 'can i see some gameplay recording' as seeing how something is played helps make most sense of the different results.

[strong gulch]

Ye

Me stealing @plucky flax builds but not Agent's numbers.

[nocturne dust]

Me with every build

I will do worse than everyone else except in Damage Taken because reasons

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/white-claw-the-claw-toy-story-clawwww-gif-14432446

except not white claw lmao

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/claws-out-warrior-nun-bring-claws-out-ready-to-fight-power-up-gif-17657867

[dull osprey]

keep in mind crits puts stacks faster and if you crit on 14 stacks it can push over 15 to 16 stacks idk if its spaghetti code or a feature but its an often oversought part of the purga staff

[narrow herald]

I'm garbage at psyker why do I bother 😔

[dull osprey]

if you use blaze away on it , dont put maniac since your left click will stagger even ragers so not really useful

well from this point i really like purga staff

it actually has meaningful choices

blaze away is #1 but other than that crit/chargetime/brittleness are all good for their respective purposes and the staff can use quite a lot of trait

[haughty star]

yo has anyone had server issues tonight?

i've gotten dcd 3xtimes in one game

[strong gulch]

fun?

[prisma igloo]

Its everyone in general no worries bruddah

[narrow herald]

Tru psyker feels too easy tho

[strong gulch]

All the more reason to be bad.

[haughty star]

it was my isp

[prisma igloo]

O

[prisma igloo]

Could always try one of my builds if you want

[sand copper]

What's a good all round psyker build

[strong gulch]

There are many. What type of thing do you like using?

Staff? Gun?

[sand copper]

Staff cause it makes psyker feel even more different than other classes

[strong gulch]

Cool beans. Most staves have variations of a core build. Mostly left side of the talent tree.

[strong gulch]

Surge / elctro staff. #psyker-class message

Trauma / voidblast #psyker-class message

Purg/ inferno #psyker-class message

[sand copper]

Cool thanks, I'll prob use surge cause lightning cool

[strong gulch]

Voidstrike is a little different. @nocturne dust knows more on that one. Assail and DD (right keystone; disrupt destiny) are often paired with it. There are also fun SG (scier's gaze) builds for it.

[sand copper]

What melee do you use for the surge build

[strong gulch]

Generally illisi for the horde clear and peril gen.

[zinc phoenix]

SG is honestly my favorite ability

It has cool interactions with basically everything you can do as psyker

[strong gulch]

Psyker's biggest boss damage is housed in gunker (gun psyker). We can also do a lot with EP BB (middle keystone aka Empowered Psionics) (BB aka Brain Rupture / Brain Burst). DS (dueling sword), especially DS4, does a lot of boss damage (especially with unyielding + uncanny and stacked dots).

For Surge / electro practically, RMB / secondary does appreciable boss damage, but it isn't a boss killer build.

Psyker generally has weaker boss damage.

[zinc phoenix]

I feel like left or center you’re mostly relying on your staff while right tree is super dynamic flipping through all the tools

[nocturne dust]

Purgatus + DS

[strong gulch]

WU was truly a gift. Even if it doesn't always make staves "better", it's added fun builds. Thanks WU. 🙏

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah it’s such an awesome mechanic

Completely changed how SG works

[nocturne dust]

EP BB is neat but for boss damage it peters out super quickly which is problematic

It works okay on weakened bosses I guess

[zinc phoenix]

Empower feels so bad

[nocturne dust]

and also you sacrifice your whole build for it

[zinc phoenix]

I hate using it

[strong gulch]

EP needs help

[nocturne dust]

yeh

[zinc phoenix]

The psyker keystones remind me of d&d3.5 meta magic for wizards

So it’s funny that empower kinda sucks 😂

[strong gulch]

all of the middle is ehh. The shields definitely have their place, but dang the middle of the tree needs work collectively.

[zinc phoenix]

Shields should be combined into one trait each tbh

[nocturne dust]

I mean, middle aura is always a grab

[zinc phoenix]

They’d feel a lot better if you had an extra point elsewhere and they were just a dip

[strong gulch]

It's either sus and turns the game off it's just why are you like this??

[strong gulch]

This is true. Holding the middle together.

[zinc phoenix]

If bubble stayed with the psyker it’d be a lot better

Because you’d be constantly regenerating toughness wherever you went

[nocturne dust]

Shields and wall current effects should be 1 point, and a second point for walls to make them immune to damage while a second point for shields to make it follow Psyker

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah that’s not bad as an upgrade

[strong gulch]

Now I just want a bubble ballet.

[zinc phoenix]

Or bubble could have some empowering effect on your primary weapon like more stagger

[nocturne dust]

also walls should be taller

like way taller

[zinc phoenix]

Ogryns getting shot over the top is funneh

[nocturne dust]

😭

[strong gulch]

Can ogryn even stand behind a wall and not have their heads stick out??

[strong gulch]

Oh lmao nevermind

[nocturne dust]

maybe if you have itty bitty ogryn height?

and crouch?

Enemies being able to shoot the tiniest piece of armor jutting out from around cover is dumb

[strong gulch]

Trapper toe shots.

[prisma igloo]

I like hitting trappers toes with my gun

Especially if they instantly die

[austere warren]

You can still get hit but it's better than absolutely nothing. Or at least it feels that way.

[haughty star]

what hath we here

i'd of been so pissed about 3 months ago

@nocturne dust hit me with that firey boi build so i can basterdize it

it's nexus and blaze away rn right?

[nocturne dust]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d5f5cb5-afee-4f51-9393-b8429e8c6765/

[nocturne dust]

yes

[haughty star]

on your build you got pen flame

[nocturne dust]

yes

[nocturne dust]

I like the boss damage

[haughty star]

wait wtf

KF can flay monstrosity?

oh nevermind it just hits up with a br

that's pretty bitching tho

staves are pretty much just insert staff here at this point lol

[nocturne dust]

Except voidstrike, yes

Well, purgatus is also kinda different since you can drop soulstealer and take EE, but not significantly so

part of the problem with Scrier's being such a gunker/meleeker crutch

and EP being dedicated to blitzes

[narrow herald]

wait does this work if the person dies from soulblaze?

[nocturne dust]

It does

[gleaming dirge]

Iv noticed a lot of builds skip on battle meditation, wouldn’t it be good for a burner build?

Since your flaming down hordes

[nocturne dust]

It's only 10% chance to quell 10% on kill

[gleaming dirge]

I thought it would provide synergy with quietude or does it just not proc enough

[nocturne dust]

That's very minimally helpful

[nocturne dust]

It doesn't proc enough and when it does proc it can interfere with your rotation

If it procs at the wrong time, your shriek won't apply 6 stacks

[gleaming dirge]

Yeah I can see that part if you want to dump a shriek

[nocturne dust]

and even when it doesn't mess with you, it's just not very helpful

It's not a terrible node, there are just many, many better nodes

[gleaming dirge]

Ah cool good to know. I’m learning psyker at the moment leveling mastery’s. I’m doing surge staff then inferno

[nocturne dust]

[gleaming dirge]

With surge staff do you always fully charge or just spam out your secondary

[nocturne dust]

Depends on the target

[gleaming dirge]

The damage difference seems pretty huge when it’s charged

[nocturne dust]

It is. You should full charge for elites/specials

but ordinary shooters or the like you can generally get away with semi-charges

[gleaming dirge]

Can the lightning bolt crit?

[nocturne dust]

Yes, crit is important to surge

because perfect timing lets it hit a lot of breakpoints

[strong gulch]

Surge crit yes

smite doesn't crit

[nocturne dust]

surge surge rmb when

[gleaming dirge]

Might be cause my staff is only 330 trying to do damnation but I feel like I need inner tranquility

If you get carried away it builds peril so fast

[nocturne dust]

Staves, especially EK, scale hard

EK is the staff that needs everything to be perfect, but once it is there's no stronger staff, lol

EK being surge

[strong gulch]

Surge and trauma are faster peril generating staves. ER (empyric resolves) helps both manage peril a lot.

[nocturne dust]

Yep, they want solidity/empyric resolve

[strong gulch]

trauma being voidblast

Live and breathe by both

[nocturne dust]

Inner Tranquility is just worse ER.

cuz warp stacks reset every shriek, so you're not even getting benefits some of the time and most of the time not getting full benefits, and even when you do it's still less than ER.

[gleaming dirge]

I thought ER is bad because it also lowers toughness replenishment

I know it’s just coherency replenishment

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/sips-tea-stephen-a-smith-gif-13112895

Lawd having the information just written is nice

[latent mauve]

I just say this

[strong gulch]

It does lower toughness regen but it's mostly unnoticeable.

[latent mauve]

You are wrong

And leave it at that

[strong gulch]

Trauma / voidblast is the exception tho.

That can feel for vulnerable.

In particular to shooters.

[nocturne dust]

I have no issue with voidblast

[gleaming dirge]

I’m ULL psyker baby so is trauma - voidstrike?

[nocturne dust]

on shooters

[nocturne dust]

trauma is voidblast

voidstrike is different

Thanks Fatshark

[strong gulch]

I put gunner resist on my curios and now it mostly feels back to non-ER toughness for me.

[nocturne dust]

I always used gunner resist

Reapers are the real threat. Reapers and ordinary shooters.

But they're the threat on any staff.

[strong gulch]

Ordinary shooters, ladders, and the top stair of a staircase are underrated menaces.

[gleaming dirge]

I haven’t found gunners to be a big issue yet the main thing that gets me krumped is ragers packs

[nocturne dust]

I mean, outside of ragers silently running up and immediately downing me, they're not much of an issue

Swap to melee and block/dodge away, or use any staff to delete them

Every staff can stun/knockdown ragers

[gleaming dirge]

Yeah Iv been running demios with deflector/uncanny I love it

[nocturne dust]

Voidstrike has the hardest time with it because it has to aim 😭

[nocturne dust]

Reject dps melee, embrace defensive shenanigans

[gleaming dirge]

Demios is prob in my top 3 weapons now. Its got a great poke and push

[atomic swan]

Gunner resist also help you doing counter-fire
or power through pack of gunners when meleeing

[nocturne dust]

Waiting for Unchained Psyker that transmits damage to peril and tanks like a boss

[atomic swan]

Usually it helps you not getting explode by gunner/s and get stunlock to death

so you can not run it if thats not an issue

[gleaming dirge]

Iv been alright so far with line of sighting gunners or staying behind front line. Iv not done any auric yet on psyker though

Random sniper shots that aren’t properly telegraphed or ragers have been my biggest down

Iv got 1x gunner resist on curios I might do a 1 x sniper resist

[nocturne dust]

If you want to do sniper resist, take 3 and 1 hp curio

that lets you take 3 sniper shots before dying

[gleaming dirge]

I’m waiting for decent curios at Melks or brunt I’m getting served trashed cause I’m level 28

Sir could I interest you in +1 wound

Or 13% toughness

[strong gulch]

I do 1 sniper resist and try for the 200 hp thing.

Trying to get curios remain annoying. Not NEARLY as bad as before the crafting update, but still.

We can't just chain buy them.

Maybe that's what melk coins are for now. Gamble them for random curios but the game is rigged so you won't ever see something over like 15% toughness curios and maybe a fake +3 stam curio.

😠

[atomic swan]

I never do sniper resist
there are so many countplays for sniper imo

[nocturne dust]

like dying instantly to a sniper shot?

The devastating part of snipers isn't that they're hard to handle. It's that they're able to shoot you from ridiculous distances through enemies while you're dealing with said enemies.

[atomic swan]

never
i only took sniper shot from my teammate who triggered it because i cant see the red laser and hear the sound q

[nocturne dust]

Like, if snipers were always 20 meters away I would never worry about them

But they're not

sometimes they're 90 meters away

[atomic swan]

dodge them all

[strong gulch]

Sometime they shoot then make the noise.

Or the laser is pointing is some random direction.

[nocturne dust]

If you can dodge straight through the mass of bulwarks and crushers, go for it

[atomic swan]

i will do backup first

[strong gulch]

But yeah, if you never eat sniper shots, don't run sniper resist.

1 is enough for me

[nocturne dust]

If you never take damage, don't use curios

[strong gulch]

but sometimes the game just says lol

[atomic swan]

getting out of sniper LOS is easy
and sniper took ages to reposition

[strong gulch]

true (isn't me)

[atomic swan]

but hey, it just my opinion

[nocturne dust]

no, bad, wrong. It's different so it's wrong.

[ripe obsidian]

I just got backed into a corner on scab melee-only, me and the zealot trapped with a wall of Crushers and Maulers between us and freedom. Unfortunately for the Scabs, I had Trauma, and the Zealot had Rashad.

It was a massacre.

[atomic swan]

I agree
as a not Perilous Combustion and CD reduction enjoyer

[nocturne dust]

What are you, some kinda gunker?

[atomic swan]

Scrier Voidstrike

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/watchmen-gif-8794746

Me with Devil's Claw:

[nocturne dust]

I find this.... acceptable.

[atomic swan]

ok i will take aura CD reduction sometime but not always 3 CDR curios

because i dont feel +7.5% elite damage is good

[nocturne dust]

I mean, the elite aura is not good

[strong gulch]

yeah

[nocturne dust]

maybe if they doubled it and made it apply to specials too

Then you could theoretically drop perfect timing

for EK

[prime elk]

scrier's melee is a surprising amount of fun

[strong gulch]

That MIGHT make it acceptable.

[prime elk]

feels great when i end up higher melee damage than the zealot

[atomic swan]

especially compare it to +10% CDR

[nocturne dust]

Dang, zealot caught slacking

[prime elk]

i think it was a "ranged" zealot lol

[nocturne dust]

I wholeheartedly disagree, but you do you

I'll wait until the day Unchained Psyker manifests

[prime elk]

literally just completed this using scrier's melee

i'm a gunker technically... that likes to get close

(i'm always out of ammo)

[nocturne dust]

I feel like I got that through a bug

cuz like, before Unlocked and Loaded I never really used Scrier's

[atomic swan]

That was vet, not zealot
or disguised as zealot

[nocturne dust]

cuz I only used staves

and yet somehow I had that penance

[prime elk]

zealot wishing he was born a vet

[ripe obsidian]

Why does everyone pick Quietude over Soulstealer for Purg? I get that you're shrieking a lot, but you're also killing tons of trash mobs

[nocturne dust]

Mettle

Mettle serves Soulstealer's purpose

[ripe obsidian]

Fair

[nocturne dust]

(toughness while attacking)

Quietude gives toughness when not attacking

so Quietude > Soulstealer

[ripe obsidian]

Fair point

[strong gulch]

Ye

[ripe obsidian]

I accept this logic

[nocturne dust]

and also shriek combination is just easy "make me win" button

[ripe obsidian]

I did my first 3VEG Maelstrom today. It wasn't as bad as I feared. However, I did have two THammer Zealots who one-bopped every monstrosity

[gleaming dirge]

Yeah that shit when it’s not properly telegraphed for you to press dodge or if the laser doesn’t do the blink flash

[strong gulch]

ye

[ripe obsidian]

Oof, yeah. Sometimes I'm like, "Did I totally miss the cue?" as my health is halved

[gleaming dirge]

Iv been afraid to try it incase it doesn’t work and my psyker takes a nap… does the parry work on crusher/mauler overheads

[ripe obsidian]

It does.

Which is very silly