so you be saying that the twohander does less damage than a onehander
#psyker-class
radiant frigate
paper lily
shock maul also has the benefit of having finesse mod
radiant frigate
??
nocturne dust
shock maul also has the benefit of having finesse mod
?????????????????????
paper lily
unless the breakpoint calc i'm using is reporting values incorrectly yeah
certainly feels this way in game too
verbal thistle
☹️
nocturne dust
Are you testing them without blessings or something weird? 
radiant frigate
raw weapons only
paper lily
im just looking at baseline values
radiant frigate
blessing = cheat
paper lily
naw
nocturne dust
im just looking at baseline values
lmao, yeah, use blessings
paper lily
ofc
nocturne dust
and also the game lies
paper lily
yeah that's why i'm using an outside source
nocturne dust
raw values are wrong often 
nocturne dust
yeah that's why i'm using an outside source
Oh that's even worse
paper lily
lol
nocturne dust
Some people use a breakpoint calculator, but notably I don't know a single one that is correct 100% of the time
paper lily
im also confirming with source code data so there's that
nocturne dust
Trust not the mutant's websites
analog agate
It is definitely something you can still take instead of flayer for sure. I know in my case I just don’t get much use out of KD
nocturne dust
im also confirming with source code data so there's that
How about just.... actually testing in-game?
with, y'know, blessings and such
latent mauve
nocturne dust
and a full build
paper lily
and also the game lies
hmm
clear heath
the game lies with descriptions and damage charts
nocturne dust
The game lies, but you can use mods
clear heath
just actually swing the weapon
nocturne dust
Yeah, it doesn't lie to your face and has enemies not die when it says they're dead
It just lies with text
paper lily
can match or beat this time, the only thing crusher is doing here is basically having higher stagger
latent mauve
the only weapons better than slaught crusher on zealot are in order: DS4, knife, rashad
nocturne dust
can match or beat this time, the only thing crusher is doing here is basically h...
lmao, if you think they were seriously trying to clear in that video...
paper lily
he's using optimal clear pattern so
latent mauve
so drunk i can barely see lmao
paper lily
unless u wanna account for crit activations
nocturne dust
he's using optimal clear pattern so
Bro, did you see his movement?
He's just circling them like a vulture and not seriously clearing
paper lily
it doesn't matter, he's still using the proper pattern
it's not doing anything better than shock maul
clear heath
bro is straight up missing swings
nocturne dust
lol
nocturne dust
it's not doing anything better than shock maul
other than clearing
and damage
and stagger
paper lily
only stagger
nocturne dust
Use blessings
paper lily
including blessings my dude
clear heath
5 seconds in he walks miles away and swings at air
Is the whiff an optimal combo?
not a pro crusher play but i didn't know killing the air was part of it
latent mauve
paper lily
yeah he's poppin off
elfin kettle
Dude this build slaps! Thanks 🙂
nocturne dust
Go back to Zealot chat. That's where they would know about crusher and shock maul anyway.
Oh wait, they told you the right answer already? Funny.
nocturne dust
there is no right answer
(it's crusher, and by a lot)
paper lily
ur opinion
paper lily
been here with many builds a lot of times
broken carbon
and yeah shock maul does suck ass at carapace
it actually doesn’t, it deals 90% damage into carapace
well
it still does suck
broken carbon
but that’s because it has relatively poor single target
paper lily
thats what secondaries are for anyway
broken carbon
shock mauls are generalist
they can do just about everything, but none of it particularly well
nocturne dust
Anyway, I had a match with 6 players 
Thanks Fatshark
broken carbon
thats what secondaries are for anyway
and also crusher has much better horde clear
and crusher has a better finesse modifier
particularly on the PA
broken carbon
i dont trust the BP calculator anymore, its not been updated
broken carbon
shock maul also has the benefit of having finesse mod
.
paper lily
i went and checked changelogs since ther was a lot to catch up on and it didn't really seem like much changed
finesse modifier != finesse mod
damn close tho
buoyant maple
What
broken carbon
lmfao
nocturne dust
its not news to me
paper lily
nocturne dust
Seems to be news to you
broken carbon
https://i.imgur.com/vlzXJze.png
yes it has the statistic for it, but the crusher has an innately higher finesse
paper lily
the attack speed is non negligible
broken carbon
nocturne dust
and if Psyker got crusher, we would never use shock maul
broken carbon
Why are we talking about zealot nonsense in psyker chat
why do people care so much about which class chat stuff is in
nocturne dust
broken carbon
i don’t get it
vernal blaze
they can do just about everything, but none of it particularly well
until a crowd of poxwalkers gets gas bombed and suddenly your horizontal heavies are hitting 3 enemies before sticking like nobodys business
:clueless:
broken carbon
until a crowd of poxwalkers gets gas bombed and suddenly your horizontal heavies...
lmfao
yeah
clear heath
Why are we talking about zealot nonsense in psyker chat
because zealot chat regulars don't entertain ragebait questions with tests
buoyant maple
I can say for certain if crusher was made available on veteran I would consider using that over Rashad
nocturne dust
why do people care so much about which class chat stuff is in
I don't really, I just like to complain
paper lily
nah zealot chat is just natively hostile
broken carbon
because zealot chat regulars don't entertain ragebait questions with tests
the unfortunate reality proven repeatedly is that people aren’t baiting, they’re just stupid
broken carbon
nah zealot chat is just natively hostile
if zealot chat is consistently hostile to u then there is probably good reason
latent mauve
and if Psyker got crusher, we would never use shock maul
Me when silly weapon stuns as many enemies as you put in front of it
paper lily
that was just the general idea with it
nocturne dust
nah zealot chat is just natively hostile
They're not hostile, they're just brainrotted
paper lily
could be...
latent mauve
I’m only hostile to people sprouting blatant bullshit
paper lily
prefer shock mayo
broken carbon
latent mauve
Ah so it is preference and not fact
clear heath
if i went into this chat with dumb ragebait and said "how isn't the devils claw a better heavy sword?", someone would probably test it.
If i said it in zealot chat, i bet they'd just tell me to fuck off and make fun of me
nocturne dust
clear heath
I've noticed people here are weak to ragebait
like the hours of smite arguments earlier today
paper lily
smite is just broken overpowered no reason to argue
buoyant maple
if i went into this chat with dumb ragebait and said "how isn't the devils claw ...
Do that in veteran chat and it’s a 50:50 on the most in-depth breakdown of which weapon is better at what, or telling u to fuck off
broken carbon
if i went into this chat with dumb ragebait and said "how isn't the devils claw ...
not really, people will usually just explain what makes them different, and if u refuse to actually change ur opinion, then you’ll get told to go fuck urself
broken carbon
I've noticed people here are weak to ragebait
a person earlier, bloom, was arguing bullshit about lore and it was about to make me go insane but i’m certain that they weren’t baiting, and are really just that stupid
broken carbon
Do that in veteran chat and it’s a 50:50 on the most in-depth breakdown of which...
it depends if ur around
vernal blaze
Do that in veteran chat and it’s a 50:50 on the most in-depth breakdown of which...
rashad reference
broken carbon
u have far more patience than i do regarding explaining weapon stuff to stubborn people
nocturne dust
Yeah people like to default to 'Ha, I was just trolling' defense when they get caught out in stupidity rather than just admit they were wrong, but you'll find trolls aren't this stupid and don't waste hours arguing a bad point. They want you to explode without wasting their time.
latent mauve
Do that in veteran chat and it’s a 50:50 on the most in-depth breakdown of which...
Me giving 3 word answers instead
paper lily
dont think people ever default to ha i was just trolling these days ngl
btw with ds2 heavy damage fix is it not just better than ds4
nocturne dust
dont think people ever default to ha i was just trolling these days ngl
Baz did it earlier
vernal blaze
Yeah people like to default to 'Ha, I was just trolling' defense when they get c...
some people fish because the experience of fishing is fun, not because they actually care about the catch at the end
is this a bad analogy
it's probably a bad analogy
nocturne dust
broken carbon
some people fish because the experience of fishing is fun, not because they actu...
people bait solely for the love of the game, not to get anything out of it
mossy oyster
Me giving 3 word answers instead
its dog shit
buoyant maple
I just happen to be right most of the time
broken carbon
better way to put it
clear heath
smite is just broken overpowered no reason to argue
meanwhile the hours of argument about whether smite can deal damage earlier today that just devolved into "yeah it does" and "no it doesn't" over and over
clear heath
it shouldn't have even turned into a conversation but it did
paper lily
those arguments are funny tho
broken carbon
its dog shit
and then fucked up smile emote or ogryn thumbs up or demonpost
nocturne dust
I should make an Atheneum competitor, that way noobs can support my views instead of Pygex's
broken carbon
Otherwise I wouldn’t be making a guide
making guides is hard, i’ve kept trying to make my evis guide but
i’m very bad at it
paper lily
idk why anyone would use a guide that wasn't kulis tbh
broken carbon
you still havent talked to anyone about ur guide
what do u think i’m doing now
broken carbon
stinker
buoyant maple
making guides is hard, i’ve kept trying to make my evis guide but
Evicerator guide is ez
U just need 2 pages
broken carbon
https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-the-essay-hilarious-haha-gif-3565665
literally, i have like 2 sentences that ive deleted and retyped 40 times
nocturne dust
Evis guide: Use 15, spam lights
latent mauve
idk why anyone would use a guide that wasn't kulis tbh
Nobody is reading kuli’s
nocturne dust
buoyant maple
U can literally use my guide’s template
broken carbon
true
paper lily
why not
paper lily
that shit is way too useful to ignore
latent mauve
People do not want that
broken carbon
Evis guide: Use 15, spam lights
actually no there’s a few really weird niche interactions with the evis’s
buoyant maple
idk why anyone would use a guide that wasn't kulis tbh
His guides are great
But sometimes u want analysis instead of “pure data”
paper lily
idk im a pure data kinda guy
nocturne dust
actually no there’s a few really weird niche interactions with the evis’s
Sure, but you think I'm going to pay that much attention? smh my head
mossy oyster
boooriiiing
sexism
buoyant maple
Besides, I consulted Kuli a bunch of times for my guide
broken carbon
i like girls :3
latent mauve
Besides, I consulted Kuli a bunch of times for my guide
same
buoyant maple
We have basically the same things, my guide is just geared towards veteran
latent mauve
if i am not sure, i ask kuli
nocturne dust
i like girls :3
prime elk
His guides are great
But sometimes u want analysis instead of “pure data”
I need someone to spoon feed me TL;DRs in sentences of no more than five words.
broken carbon
https://tenor.com/view/women-hahaha-women-ha-women-haha-women-ha-meme-women-haha...
tf2 reference feel bad right now
nocturne dust
tf2 reference feel bad right now
wat's wrong with tf2
broken carbon
I need someone to spoon feed me TL;DRs in sentences of no more than five words.
basically,
VOC, F when danger, win
mossy oyster
☕
broken carbon
wat's wrong with tf2
i despise tf2
buoyant maple
I need someone to spoon feed me TL;DRs in sentences of no more than five words.
Read my guide
mossy oyster
(she wouldnt be able to beat the homophobic furries in tf2)
nocturne dust
buoyant maple
I’m pretty sure I have “TLDR” conclusions for most things in my guide actually
broken carbon
dorn spectated me carrying tintin
mossy oyster
comp darktide when
scoreboard and powerDI
radiant frigate
if i went into this chat with dumb ragebait and said "how isn't the devils claw ...
ah but indeed how is it not?
broken carbon
thru a heresy civi
nocturne dust
i despise tf2
flint pawn
I was the Ogryn, Adamantine
nocturne dust
I hate heavy sword, ngl
broken carbon
Devil’s claw sword when 20 Dreg bruisers spawn in:
dclaw when flak hordes
clear heath
just parry 20 times silly
elfin kettle
Just wondering, what counts as a "warp attack kill"
radiant frigate
Devil’s claw sword when 20 Dreg bruisers spawn in:
heavy sword when carapace
nocturne dust
I don't want to use the stupid sword that feels like it whiffs on everything with lights
radiant frigate
Just wondering, what counts as a "warp attack kill"
psyker staff casts, empowered force sword attacks, psyker blitzes, soulblaze
nocturne dust
broken carbon
Devil’s claw sword when 20 Dreg bruisers spawn in:
i still can’t get over me outdamaging a level 1k+ zealot that had a hsword and flamer on flak hordes
and i had a bolter and dclaw
broken carbon
outdamaged them by like 2.5x
late sapphire
dclaw is so peak
radiant frigate
power sword is cool actually
nocturne dust
Force dclaw to parry bullets when
buoyant maple
Just wondering, what counts as a "warp attack kill"
Staff ranged attacks
All 3 blitz
Soulblaze
Force swords’ empowered attacks
haughty star
pee sword feels gross
nocturne dust
Force dclaw to parry bullets when
Fatshark, you know you want to
late sapphire
durr i fall asleep
broken carbon
Just wondering, what counts as a "warp attack kill"
anything that generates peril
blitz, staff attacks (not special), force sword specials, soul blaze
haughty star
why can't they get their damn animations down
buoyant maple
anything that generates peril
blitz, staff attacks (not special), force sword s...
Laspistol push generates peril, cannot warp attack kill
nocturne dust
anything that generates peril
blitz, staff attacks (not special), force sword s...
You can generate peril by reloading now
and also SG exists
and doesn't count as warp
😔
radiant frigate
Laspistol push generates peril, cannot warp attack kill
haughty star
KD BLOCK MAKES WARP ATTACK KILLS THO
late sapphire
sv trve
broken carbon
any ATTACK that generates peril, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF KINETIC FLAYER, IT ALSO COUNTS
BUT DOES NOT GENERATE PERIL
SOULBLAZE TOO
mossy oyster
noobs.
broken carbon
grgrgrrr
mossy oyster
💅
late sapphire
warp kill is when kill with warp
haughty star
boobs are magical
elfin kettle
Is 3 x toughness curios all with combat ability regen, toughness, health a good choice?
late sapphire
grab a 3stam
nocturne dust
It's alright
haughty star
no.
mossy oyster
how’s bo6 zombies
good you can dolphin dive and slide
haughty star
always go for wounds on psyker
broken carbon
Is 3 x toughness curios all with combat ability regen, toughness, health a good ...
you want 2 gunner resist
mossy oyster
also the guns and alot of cool shit are in the zombies
like upgradable perks from cold war alongside the weapon upgrade system from BO3
late sapphire
you want 2 gunner resist
you already have gunner resist it's called the dodge button
broken carbon
hrmrmrmmm
mossy oyster
make up your own mind noob !! !
broken carbon
i downloaded it last night
nocturne dust
you already have gunner resist it's called the dodge button
broken carbon
you already have gunner resist it's called the dodge button
mossy oyster
gonna get on BO6 or SH2 then say 4 hours later "I have to finish my guide........... ugh"
vernal blaze
saw a 5 wound crystalline will psyker yesterday
mossy oyster
so noob I can read your every move
vernal blaze
he was uhh
late sapphire
You want to get a load of me...? oh my...
vernal blaze
getting an awful lotta value out of it
broken carbon
You want to get a load of me...? oh my...
get this guy’s load
haughty star
Is 3 x toughness curios all with combat ability regen, toughness, health a good ...
to be serious this is what i run but i run a plus 3
it feels fine
nocturne dust
Toughness curio with gunner resist, sniper resist, and toughness regen speed. Get 3 of those. My recommendation.
broken carbon
Toughness curio with gunner resist, sniper resist, and toughness regen speed. Ge...
no toughness regen speed
nocturne dust
You want to get a load of me...? oh my...
broken carbon
that’s stupid
haughty star
most of the things you resist you're prolly gonna die to anyway
buoyant maple
Is 3 x toughness curios all with combat ability regen, toughness, health a good ...
Would recommend >200 health and one 20% sniper resist
broken carbon
u smell
nocturne dust
no toughness regen speed
no u
nocturne dust
that’s stupid
no u
broken carbon
Would recommend >200 health and one 20% sniper resist
they made breakpoints for players too
nocturne dust
buoyant maple
they made breakpoints for players too
Who made what?
broken carbon
Who made what?
i’m referring to u wanting 200 health and a sniper resist so u don’t get one shot by a sniper after a down
or something like that
late sapphire
meta pick is 3x wounds +dockets +xp +curios chance
broken carbon
i think sniper resist isn’t worth it tbh
buoyant maple
Ya
buoyant maple
i think sniper resist isn’t worth it tbh
I think it’s a safe investment for 1 slot
radiant frigate
sniper resist? skull issue
buoyant maple
It’s like insurance
nocturne dust
Just don't get hit and you won't need curios
radiant frigate
I recently got hit by a sniper
i'm sorry to hear that
broken carbon
the only time i got hit by a sniper was in a true duo with tintin when i was trying to tknife a 73 meter sniper
late sapphire
It was traumatic
broken carbon
the only time i got hit by a sniper was in a true duo with tintin when i was try...
(he stole the kill)
buoyant maple
Just don't get hit and you won't need curios <:chadgryn:1161142998214656090>
As funny as this is to say to people, I don’t think anyone plays with avg 0 damage taken
broken carbon
As funny as this is to say to people, I don’t think anyone plays with avg 0 dama...
i do, but yall stay safe though
clear heath
i’m referring to u wanting 200 health and a sniper resist so u don’t get one sho...
um actually it's 197 hp and sniper resist
buoyant maple
i do, but yall stay safe though
Damn what about that 1 game we played where u got triple poxburstered
nocturne dust
As funny as this is to say to people, I don’t think anyone plays with avg 0 dama...
Me unironically going through train with 0 damage taken pay not attention to the other 3 good players covering my back
broken carbon
Damn what about that 1 game we played where u got triple poxburstered
what about that one game u got ate by a burgle and then immediately died
late sapphire
By the way, how in the emperors names do spawns even work
broken carbon
um actually it's 197 hp and sniper resist
buoyant maple
what about that one game u got ate by a burgle and then immediately died
Yea that was pretty funny ngl
radiant frigate
i am running sniper resist because sometimes i do get hit (usually when it is aiming for someone else and i do not get the audio cue) (i can then go 
instead of 😭)
late sapphire
Some rounds we do >2mil damage in 30min, some it's not even 1mil total
nocturne dust
By the way, how in the emperors names do spawns even work
They don't.
clear heath
although going over i think 201 hp is a burster breakpoint
buoyant maple
By the way, how in the emperors names do spawns even work
Pay attention to spawn doors, that’s pretty much it
late sapphire
I know doors i am just wondering why spawn rates are so dogass random
nocturne dust
Pay attention to spawn doors, that’s pretty much it
The game teleporting in crushers on top of you:
latent mauve
By the way, how in the emperors names do spawns even work
on 4 maps
mossy oyster
also zombies in 3rd person on bo6
nocturne dust
The game having a clown car of a horde appear around the smallest isolated crate nearby:
mossy oyster
peak
buoyant maple
what about that one game u got ate by a burgle and then immediately died
I never said I don’t take damage tho
late sapphire
The game having a clown car of a horde appear around the smallest isolated crate...
Ever since a group of crushers magically appeared beneath a ledge i was on and jumped up straight into me, locking me in place, i haven't been able to trust spawns
buoyant maple
The game teleporting in crushers on top of you:
That’s some spawn behind/above u usually
Like if you’re in power matrix middle section before first event
There’s spawn door on 2nd floor and they can jump down
nocturne dust
That’s some spawn behind/above u usually
Usually. But then the game bugs with LoS and you watch them literally pop in
late sapphire
Psyker just exploded, quit mid explosion animation, rejoined to find a wound gone and left permanently
funny guys
steel flame
He must really hate the color purple
nocturne dust
I use the anti-corruption aura on Zealot because of the purple hate
nocturne dust
Lol, I wish I had a recording of crushers popping in on my head (so literally that I watch them fall to the floor from about waist height in a completely open area with nothing to fall down from), but I don't regularly record my game. It's fortunately not a common occurrence.
buoyant maple
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iOZub3iuDD8RsnqYd
Spawn door is behind the green gas
Funny how it was just outside of ur FOV
thorn cedar
nothin like dropping your phone onto concrete to make you instantly reevaluate your finances
austere crest
I was the Ogryn, Adamantine
The funnest one! Cheers!!
thorn cedar
oh its the mystical topless one
flint pawn
The funnest one! Cheers!!
I absolutely tried that match lol
austere crest
there ya go
thorn cedar
that's it?
flint pawn
Loading in to see you soloing the first event wasn't what I had expected
thorn cedar
I would've expected more hours tbh
broken carbon
Spawn door is behind the green gas
no they literally spawned on top of us
you see them spawning in
austere crest
Just don't get hit and you won't need curios <:chadgryn:1161142998214656090>
this is the way
nocturne dust
this is the way
thorn cedar
how tho
dull osprey
like
austere crest
If you pre-tighten butthole it works better
clear heath
Oh by the way, did you try selling the curios while equipped
buoyant maple
no they literally spawned on top of us
Funny jumpscare yea
austere crest
let me do that now
dull osprey
its not that you have that much playtime and levels cuz
broken carbon
If you pre-tighten butthole it works better
huh
dull osprey
i have 4k+ in vt as well
but rather on 1 char 95%
i'D blow my mind if i'd play the same class only
@austere crest do you at least play different loadouts?
buoyant maple
I think I played with skudie once before
broken carbon
ive seen her twice
buoyant maple
We lost that game tho
broken carbon
wow no it wont anymore, when u hit discard items it hides the ones equipped
oh thats sad
austere crest
<@862570164851048458> do you at least play different loadouts?
sometimes, i spent a ton of time with void at first, then it was trauma for the longest time, and now been on surge for most of the year
broken carbon
i think my first time with skudie was an auric maelstrom 3veg
n then u sent me a fr on steam
and i didnt see it til like an hour later
dull osprey
yeah the 2 times i ran into you were with trauma i remember that
broken carbon
and i felt bad
austere crest
win/loss ratio never changes in pubs, can always be one thing wrong, or have a game where you just get downed alot
i notice team structure a ton without curios
but running no curios/warpfire is helping me be better at coherency XD
dull osprey
most noticable on exec stance veterans with meme weapons
buoyant maple
Nah
austere crest
trauma is so fun, big fan of the slide-quell/halfcharge/repeat
dull osprey
sadly the 0 ping gameplay of TS is too addictive
broken carbon
sadly the 0 ping gameplay of TS is too addictive
ts?
clear heath
wow no it wont anymore, when u hit discard items it hides the ones equipped
switch to a different build preset before selling
dull osprey
trauma is so fun, big fan of the slide-quell/halfcharge/repeat
what about hte moses style when you rp walk into hte middle of the pack and spam ur feet
clear heath
i'm pretty sure i did this by accident at some point and it left my curios empty
austere crest
what about hte moses style when you rp walk into hte middle of the pack and spam...
baller
austere crest
switch to a different build preset before selling
howw?
clear heath
you know how you can store multiple builds?
flint pawn
sadly the 0 ping gameplay of TS is too addictive
half the time pubs turns into true soloing but with bad ping
buoyant maple
howw?
Make a new build preset, change that build’s curios to be different, sell ur old curios with the new build preset equipped
clear heath
just have a build without those curios equipped, so they appear in the sell menu
dull osprey
half the time pubs turns into true soloing but with bad ping
thats exactly why, why not just play on optimal ping
austere crest
i wish u could just delete like u used to
clear heath
switch before you go into discard
flint pawn
thats exactly why, why not just play on optimal ping <:KEKW_ogryn:10220771883229...
I concur
I'm still new to true soloing but I've been trying
buoyant maple
I'm still new to true soloing but I've been trying
U can start with duos
clear heath
nice
austere crest
thank you so much
buoyant maple
Duo is debatably harder in a way
flint pawn
U can start with duos
No one to duo with so I just went in solo
dull osprey
Duo is debatably harder in a way
HUH?
buoyant maple
HUH?
Last man standing has reduced spawn intensity
Duo doesn’t trigger this if both players are alive
dull osprey
sadly that doesnt work when there are no 2nd player
broken carbon
Last man standing has reduced spawn intensity
fr?? it feels the opposite lmfao
flint pawn
I have learned that the only class I don't completely suck at playing is Ogryn thanks to true soloing, very helpful 👍
clear heath
i tried soloing auric mael once
i spent 5 minutes fighting a pogryn and then right as i killed it, a trapper got me.
Didn't wanna try again after that
buoyant maple
fr?? it feels the opposite lmfao
Last man standing feels like more because you’re considered as “out of coherency” so more specialists spawn to get u
clear heath
i made it over half way through the mission
buoyant maple
But like, in terms of actual horde & elite spawn intensity, it’s not as high
dull osprey
i tried soloing auric mael once
i spent 5 minutes fighting a pogryn and then rig...
yeah its a big grind however it teaches a fuckton and sharpens up your gameplay
broken carbon
Last man standing feels like more because you’re considered as “out of coherency...
ok so my initial guess was right, no coherency so more specials
BUT less elite and horde
flint pawn
Last man standing feels like more because you’re considered as “out of coherency...
This is like a punishment system isn't it?
dull osprey
when you are waving your hand wether you truly need a +3 stam curio instead of +2 and you die cuz of it 🌶️
buoyant maple
BUT less elite and horde
Generally, yes
clear heath
might give it a shot again something actually built for it.
i was just running my usual surge staff build so boss damage was kinda...
austere crest
Wait so even if you're in coherency it acts like you're not?
clear heath
i'll probably try with zealot at some point
broken carbon
HUH?
also solo can break spawns via speedrunning, use cheese spots really easily (tbf so can duo) and run stealth
but duos cant, not as easily
dull osprey
also solo can break spawns via speedrunning, use cheese spots really easily (tbf...
thats not really soloing thats just memeing
i dont use stealth builds that makes no sense you can pretty much speedrun any mission with stealth builds
broken carbon
Mr E called it a true solo so
dull osprey
1 no stealth 2 no cheese spots (kiting is fine )
buoyant maple
Wait so even if you're in coherency it acts like you're not?
In solo, you can’t be in true coherency (loner doesn’t deactivate extra specialist spawns on out-of-coherency players I believe), so you’ll always have added specialist spawns but due to there only being 1 player, the overall spawn intensity is lowered (less horde, less elite)
clear heath
yeah abusing stealth for solo would feel too cheesy imo
dull osprey
it is atrue solo but if you play true solos for the fun part you wont play stealth builds
stealth builds are ideal for first true solos
cuz they are kind of an entry build into it
it gives huge leverage to the player in a lot of stuff
but the amount of brownie points between a steath and non stealth build is huge
buoyant maple
In duo, you can be in coherency with ur buddy which deactivates the “out of coherency specialist spawns” but the spawn intensity is normal so you’ll get max elite & horde spawns
clear heath
no shame on anyone who does it but to me, stealth solo and no stealth solo are different run categories
flint pawn
Solo made me understand the importance of stamina
buoyant maple
And tbh
Duo is just solo with prolonged spawn intensity and easier obj
Cuz you’re more than likely to be separate from ur buddy half the time
dull osprey
The spawn intensity is very noticeable
the solo mod has different variant tuning and the regular launch is full on no reduce spawn
you'Ll get the full hordes
buoyant maple
the solo mod has different variant tuning and the regular launch is full on no r...
That’s cool
dull osprey
the timer between the hordes are a bit random tho
buoyant maple
no shame on anyone who does it but to me, stealth solo and no stealth solo are d...
They basically are 2 different categories
dull osprey
sometimes im halfway done with a horde and next is already coming while other times i can walk sections with nothing but i guess thats more of the intensity
buoyant maple
I think the fastest way to improve for intermediate level players is running duo private with a friend
dull osprey
the less the better
clear heath
the real way is to barrel ur teammates off the map in a public game so you get the solo experience
dull osprey
the less players you have the more punishing stuff is
buoyant maple
the solo mod has different variant tuning and the regular launch is full on no r...
Does the solo mod give rewards from beating missions
dull osprey
but again i have nothing against stealth builds in fact i'D recommend a stealth build too for those who just start TSIng
and definitely dont start wiht ogryn
molten prawn
Is disrupt destiny bugged atm
flint pawn
and definitely dont start wiht ogryn
glad to know I'm doing things incorrectly
dull osprey
Does the solo mod give rewards from beating missions
nope but i dont need anything so w/e? and you also have loadoutconfig to make any gear you want (even cheat weapons with 100 stat if you want)
buoyant maple
nope but i dont need anything so w/e? and you also have loadoutconfig to make an...
Makes sense
dull osprey
wep specialist vet or zealot is better to start
buoyant maple
I still play with others so I prefer unmodded duos
clear heath
i assume solo mod is also 0 ping like a psykanium instance
dull osprey
^ one of the biggest forte
late sapphire
The average auric mael feels like duo idk
You get at best 1 other competent player
flint pawn
I would use solo mod more but I actually need resources 😦
dull osprey
when you press switch weapon and the game actually fookin switches wepaons
buoyant maple
The average auric mael feels like duo idk
U mean 2 people is dead half the time and only 1 other guy is contributing? Yea
dull osprey
I would use solo mod more but I actually need resources 😦
you dont need to play solo exclusively 😄
but dabbing into it is definitely recommended
some like iit some dont
late sapphire
U mean 2 people is dead half the time and only 1 other guy is contributing? Yea
1 other contributing at best
late sapphire
Had a really nice mael match with another good psyker, we both did about 900k, the other two 100 and 200k...
buoyant maple
however I need penance points and crafting mats
Find someone to run duos with
late sapphire
Born to solo forced to upgrade internet speed
flint pawn
Born to solo forced to upgrade internet speed
hey hey hey you don't get to call me out like that
buoyant maple
Find someone to run duos with <:chadgryn:1161142998214656090>
Even if u die, u can spectate someone else try to survive a bad situation
Spectating does help in improving
dull osprey
born to solo forced to teamwork
actually thats a big plus
nubs allways think that acting friendly is teamwork but its not
flint pawn
once I get my salute pose I'll go back to trying solo more
dull osprey
strong teamwork comes from strong individuals
buoyant maple
Best form of support is being able to fight everything the game can throw at u all by urself
late sapphire
The actual teamwork is then just sticking together and blowing shit up when and where your fellas are struggling
dull osprey
right now currently tho the biggest problem is that FS removed the true fullscreen so i lost like 50 fps for no reason
flint pawn
I know someone said Ogryn was bad to start with but it's the only one I have a solo win with at the moment and I'm pretty happy
dull osprey
I know someone said Ogryn was bad to start with but it's the only one I have a s...
well in some ways ogryns do break the game in their own way
buoyant maple
right now currently tho the biggest problem is that FS removed the true fullscre...
Their current “Fullscreen” implementation is so messed up
dull osprey
being able to ignore chip damage and having a straightforward heavy spam lets you focus on the incoming threats you dont even need to watch theh orde
buoyant maple
It’s so weird that
Somehow, running a lower resolution than monitor’s native
Actually costs more GPU resources
Peak fatshark optimization
flint pawn
being able to ignore chip damage and having a straightforward heavy spam lets yo...
fair
dull osprey
i have no idea what happened with this screen thing but i had stable fps with vsync on a 165hz monitor and now its so
eh stuttery?
like it lost a fuckton fluidity and it just boils my brain
or maybe i should just redo windows after a year of procastrinating it
buoyant maple
like it lost a fuckton fluidity and it just boils my brain
Did u disable rt stuff in user settings config file
Could be that
dull osprey
huh?
buoyant maple
Change it to this
rt_checkerboard_reflections = false
rt_light_quality = false
rt_mixed_reflections = false
rt_particle_reflections_enabled = false
rt_reflections_enabled = false
rt_shadow_ray_multiplier = 0
rt_transparent_reflections_enabled = false
rtxgi_enabled = false
rtxgi_scale = 0.5
allways forget where the config is
buoyant maple
Win+R
Enter %appdata%
Find “Fatshark” folder -> “Darktide” folder
At the bottom is user_settings config file
dull osprey
sec
i was an idiot and searched in the default user appdata
@buoyant maple holy hell ur right
dull osprey
no wait havent modified it just
buoyant maple
Change it and see if it works
buoyant maple
This game for some reason has built-in raytracing for lighting
U can tinker with this more if u want to optimize performance
Fair warning tho
dull osprey
i grew up on r_picmip 16 in quake/jka
buoyant maple
Don’t drop particle quality below 1
Don’t drop volumetric thing below 0.875
Don’t drop rtxgi scale below 0.5
Don’t drop max ragdoll below 1
Particle quality <1 = you start to miss screen effects that actually help
Volumetric <0.875 = can’t see fire patches anymore
Rtxgi scale <0.5 breaks lighting completely and causes flickering
Ragdoll <1 makes the game crash immediately when any enemy is killed on screen
dull osprey
k lets see
austere crest
In solo, you can’t be in true coherency (loner doesn’t deactivate extra speciali...
ah kk tyty
vernal blaze
Ragdoll <1 makes the game crash immediately when any enemy is killed on screen
oh so you can't make it so that things immediately despawn on death
that's unfortunate
dull osprey
ah kk tyty
keep in mind for solo mod there are launch options for that so you can play regularly or lesser tuned for single player in mind
clear heath
Don’t drop particle quality below 1
Don’t drop volumetric thing below 0.875
Don’...
Did you test all that yourself? Sounds like you found out the hard way
buoyant maple
oh so you can't make it so that things immediately despawn on death
Ya it breaks the game completely
clear heath
i only knew about the ragdoll one cause the bodies create too much clutter
fatshark let me set it to 0
clear heath
i want to slap an enemy out of existence
buoyant maple
Also if you turn decals off it disables some decals on ur characters/weapons
buoyant maple
still nowhere close to 2 patches ago
Blame it on fatshark optimization
Stuttering is usually cpu related tho
Unless ur somehow GPU bottleneck
Maybe reduce ragdoll amount as well?
buoyant maple
I have 8
dull osprey
hmm
flint pawn
how many threads are ideal?
doesn't this depend on your computer's cores
clear heath
yeah
honestly just leave that one at default unless you wanna try out a bunch of different numbers over and over to find out what's the best
dull osprey
12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-12400F 2.50 GHz
my hardware knowledge is minimal
idk how many cores are good with that
buoyant maple
12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-12400F 2.50 GHz
What’s ur monitor’s native resolution
1080p?
Or 1440p
flint pawn
idk how many cores are good with that
if you open task manager you can see how many cores you have in the performance tab under CPU
buoyant maple
but im running it 1920x1080
They fked optimization if u set resolution below monitor’s native
steep estuary
Staff scrier feels so weird
buoyant maple
I was trying to get it to run at low general temperature and somehow 1080p ran better than 1477x831
Which is an insane thing to be true
nocturne dust
Staff scrier feels so weird
It works neat on Voidstrike but that's about it
dull osprey
hmm 8 cores doesnt seem to make any diff
steep estuary
Thas what I'm using yeah. Hits like a truck, but it feels wacky
austere crest
keep in mind for solo mod there are launch options for that so you can play regu...
is okie, i don't really solo its so lonely
flint pawn
if you solo in pubs you have an audience
late sapphire
If you think about it, pubs are harder than soloing
austere crest
i think so
late sapphire
You have the spawn rate of 4 players, at least one guy is always out of coherency, and you still have to kill everything
austere crest
the biggest challenge is staying alive and with your team
austere crest
i notice when i play with higher level players, they play it more solo/duo style
it makes it easier
dull osprey
well maybe if you'd stop sprinting 24/7 miss skudie
austere crest
kill every enemy, keep the whole team, game hard af
dull osprey
Which is an insane thing to be true
well tried a few things and nothing changed sadly
nocturne dust
Do you just not?
Stealth
dull osprey
is there any cfg fuckery to set true full screen?
nocturne dust
RIP Psyker/Ogryn
late sapphire
Stealth doesn't count
austere crest
well maybe if you'd stop sprinting 24/7 miss skudie <:KEKW_ogryn:102207718832290...
i sprint to coherency edge
dull osprey
i sprint to coherency edge
i am pressing that X for doubt x)
late sapphire
i sprint to coherency edge
edging like a true psyker...
clear heath
Do you just not?
I'm sure there are maps that just aren't considered feasible for non-stealth solo
imagine solo rolling steel
nocturne dust
True psykers never edge
austere crest
i've played solo missions, i haven't solo'd one. I either die, fall off ledges, or get bored lol
clear heath
getting trapper netted solo after 15 minutes into a mission feels pretty horrible
dull osprey
uh yeah some missions are not soloable without stealth but you have plenty of ways to work around it
austere crest
I try to keep the pacing good for team, and will route incoming hordes, but usually im running the larger coherency barrier or just outlining roughly the edge looping front to back to get the poxwalkers off ofther psykers
dull osprey
some disables ai for minigames somes just flies through doors
austere crest
those fuckers hurt
buoyant maple
is there any cfg fuckery to set true full screen?
Unfortunately, no
austere crest
Whats the worst mission for solo?
dull osprey
@buoyant maple is that normal that DT is not its own entity in task bar but is under the vortex ? O _ O
austere crest
🫥
buoyant maple
i notice when i play with higher level players, they play it more solo/duo style
So true
dull osprey
Whats the worst mission for solo?
reworked hab
austere crest
the puzzle is whack
dull osprey
technically you can do it
austere crest
i like the one on the train
buoyant maple
<@366562874039992331> is that normal that DT is not its own entity in task bar b...
It’s a fatshark game 
dull osprey
you can clear it until your intensity hits the stop on horde
another hard ones are where you have to cleanse infestations
buoyant maple
Whats the worst mission for solo?
Without stealth, comms plex can be pretty insane
dull osprey
having the 3 point spawn tentacles makes it so u need a fast weapon
its much better to start with assasination missions those dont have any special trickery
spiral sky
ive seen her twice
I honestly don’t think I’ve played with skudie before 😦
flint pawn
skudie is cool
clear heath
enclavum baross seems like it wouldn't be too bad
spiral sky
Rumor is we are the two highest levels in NA
spiral sky
LOL ikr
austere crest
Rumor is we are the two highest levels in NA
neat, we should go outside
dull osprey
hell no
spiral sky
Hab dreyko has grass
clear heath
Rumor is we are the two highest levels in NA
how high are you?
austere crest
who
dull osprey
u
spiral sky
4950 ish
clear heath
wtf
austere crest
East coast baybayy
dull osprey
hmm we played twice and i strictly only play eu 🤔
clear heath
is it all on psyker?
austere crest
there is a EU player
dull osprey
he spams zealot
spiral sky
On one char still have a 80 ogryn and psyk
dull osprey
no it wasnt skudie at home
late sapphire
hmm we played twice and i strictly only play eu 🤔
i don't believe fatshark when they say you can only get matched in your server
dull osprey
i mean how many psyker is at 3k +
late sapphire
Might have just stuck you in an US match
austere crest
oh if it was that it was me
maybe i joined a friend that is eu
that would explain lag on diff nights
clear heath
i don't believe fatshark when they say you can only get matched in your server
nah you can manually select the server and also view your ping with mods
dull osprey
neat trick for you guys if you want to do penances solo que up central asia that server is dead
clear heath
I've never been put in a server that isn't what i selected
spiral sky
A lot of ocean people queue us
late sapphire
I did that but then i got matched with a bunch of central asians
austere crest
bc i play reallly reallly late night, so it would make sense that id play with eu friends
late sapphire
scariest experience of my life
dull osprey
bc i play reallly reallly late night, so it would make sense that id play with e...
you mean early morning 
austere crest
flint pawn
where is this setting
clear heath
it actually sucks so much
spiral sky
The latency translates pretty nice across servers
latent mauve
dull osprey
@buoyant maple last ping i swear is this normal?
clear heath
where is this setting
bottom right of the mission board
austere crest
where is this setting
mission select screen options
dull osprey
press E on miss select
clear heath
There was an xp glitch?
latent mauve
A while ago
latent mauve
If you play Asia servers you will see 10k players
dull osprey
hey dorn why does it seem that thrust doesnt get the power output bonus on crusher? or am i idiot
dull osprey
but isnt the mechanic supposed to work like Thammer?
it doesnt add the extra dmg
just thrust dmg+power dmg
spiral sky
Have you tried putting your hips into it
clear heath
are you sure you have the blessing?
supple escarp
any solutions to the bugged invite to squads?
dull osprey
OOOOOOOOOO BOI
clear heath
Do you see the buff icon when you charge heavy?
supple escarp
bugged invite to strike team*
jovial juniper
any solutions to the bugged invite to squads?
Updating mods kek
Who are you and true level
supple escarp
okay ty
austere crest
For the Emperor
jovial juniper
Fr they seemed to be the ones trolling
latent mauve
Skudie is 6th then, because Eva is 4k+
austere crest
Can i be last
latent mauve
Delete all characters
spiral sky
K let’s delete and I’ll make a psyk named skudie and you make a zealot named trauma
austere crest
XD
clear heath
maybe the real 40k is the hours the top players have
austere crest
^
dull osprey
K let’s delete and I’ll make a psyk named skudie and you make a zealot named tra...
get mod and you can hvae 8 operative
clear heath
kinda crazy that you have almost as many hours as the game has players at some points
spiral sky
Tru
spiral sky
I play decent and still get judged it’s all slippery slope
austere crest
yeap
slate oasis
oh hey I randomly played a couple games with you the other day skudie
nocturne dust
I play decent and still get judged it’s all slippery slope
I will always judge you
austere crest
did we die
spiral sky
Only class I am a god at is my level 18 veteran with red capris, mustard shirt and the esteemed B for beta helmets
Oh and a.Backpack to carry the team in
verbal thistle
I saw Trauma pysker once
slate oasis
nah we won. it was metal fab vent purge and some other map
spiral sky
Shhhh never happened
dull osprey
btw there is still the guy who has 13k hours in vt2
latent mauve
New type
dull osprey
final boss for dt players to overcome
latent mauve
Yeah
spiral sky
I think they can have a domestic partnership at that point
austere crest
nice, i get the T-slurs often lately. seems to be xbox players that talk the most shit. you can carry them and they will blame you for barrelling themselves
gusty sapphire
with staves is the dump stat generally warp resistance or quell speed?
verbal thistle
I saw Trauma pysker once
nocturne dust
with staves is the dump stat generally warp resistance or quell speed?
warp res
gusty sapphire
thank you
spiral sky
Shockingly good camera work
jovial juniper
Lmfao
spiral sky
Danggggg
spiral sky
Trundle the great couldn’t figure out how to depants
spiral sky
In-tents
nocturne dust
https://youtu.be/rkvLzIoIVhI?si=AP77dhWfpMcZzl44
didn't use only smite, 0/10
spiral sky
I think it’s a beverage
austere crest
It's a mean word that is outdated
austere crest
🏳️⚧️
latent mauve
austere crest
it wouldnt let me type it
latent mauve
Hate knife mains
spiral sky
I have feelings dorn
austere crest
hawttt
verbal thistle
its a butter sword
spiral sky
Crocodile Dundee size knife
late sapphire
Ok fellas
latent mauve
Ainz too young to understand that reference
slate oasis
true
spiral sky
True I like to consider him an old soul
clear heath
i think the DH should follow you to your next match
latent mauve
I think if you leave a match with a dh on you you should be permabanned
Based, unless I get the aggro
Then I do not mind
late sapphire
I like fighting dhs as a zealot
buoyant maple
<@366562874039992331> last ping i swear is this normal?
idk, I don't use vortex, sorri
late sapphire
Not as a psyker when i am mid cast and the 2nd dh target leaves
clear heath
I would just close vortex before opening darktide. It doesn't need to stay open
spiral sky
I grew up the youngest so running away the dh chasing me seems normal
slate oasis
I just block forever with that sweet kinetic deflection and pray my team kills it
dull osprey
i just love at 28 minutish he types SMITE BROKEN charges into hte dh and gets insta clapped like a btch
spiral sky
I find a window and jump back and fourth through it
nocturne dust
I just block forever with that sweet kinetic deflection and pray my team kills i...
Devil's Claw gaming > blockker
latent mauve
I find a window and jump back and fourth through it
The 100% win rate strat
Is to just force tp
slate oasis
I need to try devil's claw. I want the sekiro experience
spiral sky
4 smykers sounds like the best bet for taking down a dh
But yeah skudie if you wanna do some runs later I can gonna take the loaf for a walk
latent mauve
I’ll join
prime elk
I need to try devil's claw. I want the sekiro experience
maybe if sekiro had 5 second long parry windows lol
spiral sky
Sounds good
slate oasis
perfect for me I sucked ass at sekiro lol
late sapphire
maybe if sekiro had 5 second long parry windows lol
sekiro if you could just spam parry and it would do the job for you
spiral sky
There’s ass play in sekiro?
late sapphire
I guess it's like Wo Long
slate oasis
There’s ass play in sekiro?
welll.... yes kind of
spiral sky
Gonna have to check it out
latent mauve
There’s ass play in sekiro?
Is that all it takes to convince you
nocturne dust
First decendents
Real
slate oasis
there's a monster that ||rips your soul out of your butt and puts it up his butt||
late sapphire
hot
latent mauve
My top 20 is a lot of from soft
nocturne dust
I don't have any of my top 20 from Fromsoft because I don't play their games
slate oasis
elden ring and bloodborne are easily on my favorite games list
latent mauve
Elden ring less so for me
spiral sky
I will always judge you
At least someone willl give it to me straight
indigo plank
DS1 ranks highly because of the nostalgia, but I’ll always die on the hill of DsII Scholar > DS3
nocturne dust
At least someone willl give it to me straight
🫡
flint spear
M&K on any FS soulgame
dusk void
Happy Halloween Eve y’all 😊
nocturne dust
Hallow's Eve happy to you givings yes
latent mauve
At least someone willl give it to me straight
Save me from zealot chat
Oh my fucking god
2 people giving bad advice at the same time
nocturne dust
2 people giving bad advice at the same time
latent mauve
I want to die
lethal lagoon
flint spear
picking up hammer in the first place
latent mauve
Half the weapons don’t benefit from iod
lethal lagoon
latent mauve
and?
broken carbon
What's an IoD
invocation of death, crit CDR on zealot
late sapphire
aha
verbal thistle
lmao
dull osprey
M&K on any FS soulgame<:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
what if i tell you almost all other soulslike game could do a good kmb support and works way better than dog controller 
its just japanese people cant get into tiny brain pcs exist
austere crest
why does ur game look so
brightness setting is set a little higher
it gets too dark
austere crest
dull osprey
motion blur? you mean 20 fps?
like i legit dont understand stuff like lens flare and motion blur
they just sit in the meeting and hey you know what would improve video games?
lens flare
late sapphire
what if i tell you almost all other soulslike game could do a good kmb support a...
???
M&K works perfectly for ds
You are just insane
dull osprey
yeah boi lets make it
dull osprey
M&K works perfectly for ds
its dog
broken carbon
uh oh
late sapphire
At least DS doesn't have some TRUE CHOSEN UNDEAD USE A CONTROLLER!!! popup like yakuza does
dull osprey
hey i know what i experienced with it
late sapphire
it's peak
dull osprey
pressing roll was an rng wether it took the input on pressing or releasing space
late sapphire
That's a you issue
dull osprey
even a weak ass mid souls copy LoTF had trillion times better KB support
and could actually bind the actions on differnet buttons
late sapphire
LoTF made my gpu fall and by fall i mean heat to 90°C
late sapphire
I played through all three ds games several times with 0 k&b issues
Outside of the genuinely insane bindings in ds2
dull osprey
oh okei iget ur
late sapphire
double click to heavy attack??? what???
late sapphire
No you just have to have valid critiques idk
Cope
All three games suck in distinct ways it's just that K&M are not major issues unless you are kind of psychotic about it
flint spear
what if i tell you almost all other soulslike game could do a good kmb support a...
Isn't that capped "FS" not large enough or smth shit? 🤣
broken carbon
ur one of those guys who are a ds simp and doesnt accept critique towards it
ds2 sucked, ds1 has mediocre map design that people glaze ts out of because the first area was good but any later area is just mid asf, ds3 was pretty peak
late sapphire
ds2 is enjoyable but very janky yeah
broken carbon
bloodborne base bosses were ok, some great ones but a lot of meh ones, (old hunters was peak)
sekiro is the best fromsoft game made
period
elden ring is overrated as fuck
late sapphire
Never finished elden ring
It's bloated af
ds3 sucks a bit because all of the bosses are very jumpy anime stuff and elden ring leans into it even more for a lot of enemies
late sapphire
ds1 is pretty peak but the later areas are dogshit
dull osprey
Jump out of screen so you cant see it
Then crashes ground with so many particle effects you still cant see
broken carbon
Never finished elden ring
the DLC was much better, but doesnt change any of my rankings
buoyant maple
sekiro is the best fromsoft game made
When’re u gonna play black myth wukong
late sapphire
The DLC is even more jumpier supposedly
broken carbon
When’re u gonna play black myth wukong <:chadgryn:1161142998214656090>
idk whenever im not broke
flint spear
BMW isnt even a soullike
buoyant maple
Wukong might be good
It’s really good
flint spear
arpg at best
late sapphire
Isn't it just a chinese mobile game style arpg
buoyant maple
Isn't it just a chinese mobile game style arpg
No
nocturne dust
BMW isnt even a soullike<:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
Cars are indeed not soullikes
slate oasis
The DLC is even more jumpier supposedly
yeah. even the end game bosses of the base game feel like slow motion after you complete the dlc