I just dont wanna tune it anymore
#psyker-class
orchid ibex
i don't care much what people do but using macros to abuse quell canceling does kind of feel like you just hate playing the game at that point.
nocturne dust
Yeah, it's a playstyle I don't really encourage, same as EP smite
fringe garden
It's a game whose entire identity is built around getting gud. Seems backwards to use macros to circumvent that.
radiant frigate
i'd argue that this macro is just a weird exploit
orchid ibex
it's the same with how some mods are in really dicey territory beyond just QoL or accessibility and just straight up making the game easier
fringe garden
I'm on the fence with the healthbar mod. It's super useful, the information it provides helps you make better decisions. It is easily debatable if it's too much
bronze cloak
can i post links there for the build im trying to run and someone can tell me if its good ?
vernal frost
it clutters your interface with healthbars so you cant see shit
fringe garden
Not saying it is too much, but I do accept the argument is sensible
orchid ibex
it's information you weren't meant to have and lets you have an efficiency you really shouldn't get without actually using your brain/knowledge
but it's not really the worst
nocturne dust
I mean
fringe garden
it clutters your interface with healthbars so you cant see shit
I mean, sort of. It also lets you know where enemies are where otherwise visibility would be limited, like through gas
nocturne dust
if we go off what Fatshark gave us
orchid ibex
that as well
fringe garden
we were meant to have wrong information and lies
Rofl you're not wrong
vernal frost
if we go off what they explicitly allow then everything is good
bronze cloak
fringe garden
Just like the 40k novels the narrator is always unreliable
I'm not arguing that the mods are cheating. I don't particularly care if someone uses it. I just accept that anyone who does feel they are too much have a reasonable argument
orchid ibex
i mean, fatshark has generally thrown up their hands regarding mods either way.
vernal frost
oh no im not implying anything like that, just saying
orchid ibex
it's probably too complicated to sift through good QoL modding and borderline exploit modding
nocturne dust
I mean, I agree with Fatshark's take. It's all fine as long as you aren't doing something that ruins the fun for others like deleting all enemies everywhere
vernal frost
or screaming vacuum capsule
fringe garden
Having mods makes the game more appealing to more people. I'm happy with that.
orchid ibex
yeah, they don't really impact the game that much in the end
vagrant grove
even if someone started one shotting every enemy while flying around the map you aren't losing anything
id just leave
nocturne dust
If I didn't have mods, I'd probably have quit playing long ago.
vagrant grove
id rather have a cheater then someone who is toxic
orchid ibex
i use a few mods too, i definitely get that. i've been using little ones like FTE so i can retag ammo without my character just shouting "mine!"
vernal frost
would you rather have a smite player daughter or a vacuum capsule user son
radiant frigate
would you rather have a smite player daughter or a vacuum capsule user son
doesn't matter, both are fixable
orchid ibex
what is vacuum capsule? i'm not familiar.
nocturne dust
doesn't matter, both are fixable
fixable in a no-children sort of way? 
radiant frigate
fixable in a no-children sort of way? <:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
no, fixable in a "teach them right" sort of way
nocturne dust
would you rather have a smite player daughter or a vacuum capsule user son
I'll have both. 
vagrant grove
what is vacuum capsule? i'm not familiar.
there is a mod that allows you to play the vacuum capsule voiceline whenever you want
haughty star
Macros non different than mods
nocturne dust
technically it allows any voiceline
haughty star
Most mods make game easier
nocturne dust
Most mods make game easier
No scoreboard, you will datamine your game for info
orchid ibex
anything that lets you turn a staff into a machine gun with a single button press feels like an exploit to me though, no offense
vernal frost
so your fingers
orchid ibex
i'm talking about quell cancel macroing
haughty star
Yeah bro like I said you can straight do it by hand
vernal frost
you could do it by hand easily eyah
haughty star
There's a hard limit that's easily achieved with your fingeys
nocturne dust
Yeah bro like I said you can straight do it by hand
I want to note that iirc the maximum limit of quell cancelling is beyond human reaction times
orchid ibex
well, i'm not telling you not to do it
nocturne dust
at least I heard that but I never tested it
stark crown
anything that lets you turn a staff into a machine gun with a single button pres...
Tbf every Staff M1 Macro triples the entire team in Damage dealt, its genuine baby mode and I do not like it at all
nocturne dust
cuz I don't quell cancel anyway 
haughty star
at least I heard that but I never tested it
I can't get it to work faster myself
With macro
Macro just easier
orchid ibex
@stark crown yeah, i think that sums up how i feel as well
stark crown
I have extreme choice of words for it
thorn cedar
"Well you can easily do it with just your hands and keys."
"So you do?"
"No I use a macro."
stark crown
hand thing
Carpal Tunnel
radiant frigate
macro prevents you from getting the whatsitcalled
carpal tunnel
vernal frost
ye
stark crown
Melee I understand
but like when its Staff M1 macroing which again
3x Overall team damage
vernal frost
oh if you dont understand melee then you dont know about m1 cancelling mod
stark crown
Im expecting it to be nerfed and if it doesn't im avoiding Psykers who use it
vernal frost
that shit was straight up insane lol
haughty star
3x Overall team damage
That's regular psyker stuff
vernal frost
idk if i have clips
stark crown
oh if you dont understand melee then you dont know about m1 cancelling mod
Mainly Keep Swinging
thorn cedar
i just barrel them
stark crown
i just barrel them
Or that ^
haughty star
At least the good ones
stark crown
Im always neck with the actual good ones
staff M1 shuts down the entire game
I literally do not get a chance to play
vernal frost
the quit button is right there
radiant frigate
haven't encountered it
haughty star
Its hilarious
vagrant grove
gunpsyker and gunlugger can also do the same thing
and plasma vet before this patch
thorn cedar
with limited ammo on a cooldown
radiant frigate
we hates it
stark crown
haven't encountered it
All I can say is be thankful you haven't, its so- irritating getting matched with one
cause its like you either sit through it for the resources or just leave
radiant frigate
All I can say is be thankful you haven't, its so- irritating getting matched wit...
i have also not been playing DT very much
buildcraft has gotten really frustrating
stark crown
I've been recently seeing Zombies this year is actually promising and good so far
vernal frost
sadly i also know im part of the problem
yeah its very fun to play if you're the one playing it
orchid ibex
it's usually more fun to be the person doing the ruining than to be the one having the game ruined for them
vernal frost
ruining is a strong word
orchid ibex
maybe strong, but i do find it annoying
vernal frost
well there being a clear goal of winning it's not really applicable here
i do agree with it being not fun ofc
vagrant grove
i wish people would speak up when im going to fast more
orchid ibex
my goal is a fun game, not winning at the expense of fun though.
vagrant grove
ive only had a few people tell me and i did slow down and play more conservatively but sometimes ill have more damage then all three of my teammates combined and they just keep pinging stuff for me
i was playing gunlugger yesterday and my team pinged literally every ammo drop for me so i could just spray, they just did a skull ping on whatever horde they wanted deleted
it was pretty fun
vernal frost
heh
orchid ibex
i get why people like just rolling everything, i just don't personally understand the need. if you remove too much challenge from the game why bother.
haughty star
Honestly at the difficulties I play at there's still plenty of shit to kill lol. It's just fun to run every once in a while
nocturne dust
i get why people like just rolling everything, i just don't personally understan...
They're here for the sandbox, not the challenge, is what it is
stark crown
Look there's a difference between rolling through mechanical skill of like focusing melee, and then just sitting in the backline deleting everything by using a macro
which is beyond boring imo
orchid ibex
i'm only doing damnation/auric, it's not about the difficulty i'm on. i still don't want to just hose everything down with a macro.
nocturne dust
ngl, I'm also a sandbox enjoyer. I like steamrolling things. It of course gets boring if that's the only thing you do, but I probably have a much higher tolerance for it than the average person
haughty star
You can literally do it just as fast by hand
orchid ibex
are you doing it by hand?
haughty star
I used to
nocturne dust
then your hands broke
vernal frost
i generally dont care about what anyone runs as long as they're not literally throwing
haughty star
I don't like my fingeys hurting
orchid ibex
and even if you could, my point still stands that it's a braindead build that i don't think is fun to play or play on a team with
nocturne dust
i generally dont care about what anyone runs as long as they're not literally th...
me eyeing the barrel next to the rest of the team and a ledge
orchid ibex
but you are definitely free to play whatever
haughty star
and even if you could, my point still stands that it's a braindead build that i ...
So are most psyker builds at the end of the day
haughty star
Brain dead builds that literally dominate everything used correctly
nocturne dust
I mean, that's every meta build, or really just builds
The purpose of a build is to do well and cover any flaw of individual components, generally
It's about how much 'ease' or 'braindead' you want I guess
orchid ibex
don't get me wrong i love trying to come up with the most powerful build i can, but there is something qualitatively different to me using a quell cancel m1 thing, it's just my personal opinion here.
nocturne dust
Fair
It's boring because it's literally 1 answer
kinda like crusher special -> h1 spam
orchid ibex
yeah, i think that's exactly what it is actually that i don't like about it.
haughty star
don't get me wrong i love trying to come up with the most powerful build i can, ...
Oh but animation canceling m2 for like the last 2 years is acceptable?
Cuz pretty much everyone do that
nocturne dust
Oh but animation canceling m2 for like the last 2 years is acceptable?
who does that?
orchid ibex
i don't even know what that means
nocturne dust
Cuz pretty much everyone do that
Huh?
you mean swap cancel? I never see that
and I definitely don't do it, lol
haughty star
and I definitely don't do it, lol
Noooo never lol
orchid ibex
i'm a pretty vanilla player i think, so i'm probably not aware of some of that. i have no idea what you're referring to though, honestly.
nocturne dust
Swap cancel lol
you... you actually do that?
orchid ibex
i've never noticed that
nocturne dust
haughty star
i've never noticed that
Pay attention pretty much everyone in auric that's decent does
nocturne dust
Swap cancelling is definitely rarer than quell cancelling as far as I've seen
nocturne dust
Pay attention pretty much everyone in auric that's decent does
What? No
Nobody does that
I've played with quite a few psykers in this Discord
I can't remember any of them using it, outside of maybe one or two memes/shenanigan runs
orchid ibex
i feel like i would have noticed it
austere warren
Dunno what that tech is so i got nothing.
haughty star
Pretty much everyone I've seen in auric uses some kind of cancelation on the animation using surge staff lol
nocturne dust
orchid ibex
but no, obviously, i'm not doing that either
nocturne dust
What server are you on?
austere warren
Also @plucky flax that scrier build is funny. I definitely need a different gun though to feel a little more comfortable.
orchid ibex
i still hate quell m1 spam
plucky flax
Also <@150967101836886016> that scrier build is funny. I definitely need a diffe...
What gun did you play?
austere warren
I keep spiking myself to 100% and forget that I can't use kinetic deflection at all and need to double down on offense.
austere warren
What gun did you play?
Laspistol. Wasn't confident in the blue recon lasgun I got waiting to be built up fully.
haughty star
i still hate quell m1 spam
Half the fun of it for me is when people mald mid match
vernal frost
stealth zealot you could also totally do by hand with like 90+~ success rate tbh
austere warren
The issue really was not adjusting to my ranged and melee early between gazes.
orchid ibex
@haughty star the goal of upsetting people makes it more pathetic
nocturne dust
Half the fun of it for me is when people mald mid match
vernal frost
Half the fun of it for me is when people mald mid match
lowkey agree
nocturne dust
lowkey agree
vernal frost
esp when you get chat screenshots out of it
plucky flax
Use gaze even at high peril for the 10s of unbound.
austere warren
So id be in terrible positions where KD wouldn't help because it's gone.
(I also got dog curios on me atm. Idk how much that matters)
nocturne dust
You can combine smite and lmb spam for maximum malding
plucky flax
Then if you have assails spam them
vernal frost
like this stuff i saw on reddit the other day
haughty star
You can combine smite and lmb spam for maximum malding
I do lol
austere warren
Use gaze even at high peril for the 10s of unbound.
Yeah that too. I just wasn't playing with overload in mind when that was the clear point of running it. I'll try again when I get the chance this weekend.
orchid ibex
i honestly don't understand why upsetting strangers on a video game is some kind of accomplishment to some people
austere warren
Yeah that too. I just wasn't playing with overload in mind when that was the cle...
Execution issue really.
plucky flax
Aye mate. When using unbound I often use it purely for 10s free cast time.
haughty star
The smite is just nice on the way I run it because it gives me a answer for bulwark packs
vernal frost
well thats cause you're upsetting people by not doing anything that directly targets said strangers
just playing the game as intended
nocturne dust
i honestly don't understand why upsetting strangers on a video game is some kind...
Low hanging fruit is easy to pick
haughty star
i honestly don't understand why upsetting strangers on a video game is some kind...
Its not an accomplishment it's hilarious
plucky flax
Damage is nice but 100% peril + assails spam + cleave is crazy horde clear.
vernal frost
nocturne dust
just playing the game as intended
intended is a strong word with m1 spam + quell cancel
austere warren
Aye mate. When using unbound I often use it purely for 10s free cast time.
I noticed that coincidentally you were already shredding heads for stacks before the pop anyway and I have old habits of using gaze without unbound.
vernal frost
intended is a strong word with m1 spam + quell cancel
tell that to fatshark
orchid ibex
@vernal frost right but people are telling you that the overtuned nature of macroing m1 quell cancel spam is draining the fun out of the game
it does effect them
vernal frost
<@400388201782706207> right but people are telling you that the overtuned nature...
the quit button is right there
you choose who you play with
orchid ibex
why should people have to waste their time to indulge you?
austere warren
At lower levels though, it doesn't seem like it matters since you're already spinning 100% peril assail damage, disrupt destiny procs, other talent procs, etc.
vernal frost
else refer to the fatshark statement
austere warren
I was worried about a whole lot of nothing and died for it.
haughty star
<@400388201782706207> right but people are telling you that the overtuned nature...
Truth be told the optimal macro is well within human reaction time
plucky flax
It comes with experience.
nocturne dust
Look at the horde clear <:Pogryn:1058536317883007096>
https://cdn.discordapp.co...
Not enough horde
Not enough clear
More
haughty star
I suppose advanced micr should be shunned because they have more buttons?
plucky flax
Even in solo clutch situation I am so calm since I have to do it so much.
austere warren
It comes with experience.
Pretty much. All of my scrier and dd builds are usually just not messing around with force weapons and are with duelling swords/combat knives and laspistol/lasgun/infantry autogun.
I wanna eventually try out vigilant with it.
orchid ibex
it's not fun to play with in the same way that a knife zealot zooming ahead and going down derails the cooperative side of the game, just from another direction. you shouldn't go out of your way to lessen the fun of others in a game.
stark crown
it's not fun to play with in the same way that a knife zealot zooming ahead and ...
This is why I have this mindset of
nocturne dust
Even in solo clutch situation I am so calm since I have to do it so much.
Dang, I hate solo clutching and do everything to avoid it
stark crown
if you run ahead by yourself and go down
plucky flax
Gazer works best with mk2 laspistol, mk12 recon or vraks infantry indeed
stark crown
im not reviving you
nocturne dust
It feels way worse to lose a clutch than to lose anywhere else
plucky flax
I like recon Las the best.
haughty star
I like recon 12
plucky flax
Dang, I hate solo clutching and do everything to avoid it <:KEKW_ogryn:102207718...
You said you're more defensive player so maybe your teammates go down less
austere warren
I like recons now that they're way better than before. Didn't care for how the old system felt with how narrow they needed to be built.
haughty star
Shits so fun
austere warren
All recon lasgun is cool to me, personally prefer the mk12 because it's just an angry gun
plucky flax
No matter what I do my team always die.
austere warren
It just sounds like a hive of some kind of fucked up bees.
plucky flax
Free clutch memes tho
nocturne dust
You said you're more defensive player so maybe your teammates go down less
I do think my playstyle helps keep the team alive. I stay in coherency, watch backs, etc.
haughty star
I like the heavy hitting one too but that bitch is hungry for ammo
stark crown
Honestly forcing clutches on yourself genuinely makes you get way better at the game I wont lie
austere warren
I like the heavy hitting one too but that bitch is hungry for ammo
It's the 14 that has the better cleave or something right?
stark crown
but thats just me 🚬
haughty star
The one that consumes 2 per shot
plucky flax
I do think my playstyle helps keep the team alive. I stay in coherency, watch ba...
I use my teammates as meatshield 
vernal frost
Honestly forcing clutches on yourself genuinely makes you get way better at the ...
that's why i barrel every teammate that i can reach
austere warren
The one that consumes 2 per shot
Oh. Didn't even notice that actually.
I get a recon and my trigger discipline disappears.
haughty star
Yeah I think it's the cleave one
stark crown
that's why i barrel every teammate that i can reach <:staregryn:1022085083844325...
so true, make sure to barrel Shroud/Infil user
plucky flax
<:chadgryn:1161142998214656090>
Especially when a burster is coming
nocturne dust
Especially when a burster is coming <:whatthefuck_heresy:1049724444207239168>
Lmao, my priority is popping a burster while it's far from the group... if it gets close I'm running
plucky flax
I back away then maybe accidentally explode it
nocturne dust
I do the mistake of trying to push it quite a bit tho, only to have it get shot in my face
haughty star
so true, make sure to barrel Shroud/Infil user
Complains about l1 ruining game and doesn't know why people enjoy. Ruins game for people in a different way
Lmao
orchid ibex
@haughty star i think it's a joke
nocturne dust
Complains about l1 ruining game and doesn't know why people enjoy. Ruins game fo...
Yes Only play the way I want you to, I'm the main character
https://tenor.com/view/im-the-real-hero-homelander-antony-starr-the-boys-im-a-true-hero-gif-25853875
stark crown
<@646391497226190879> i think it's a joke
Sarcasm is something they cannot read
nocturne dust
Sarcasm is something they cannot read
We have established the '/s' protocol for such occasions
although I've had people ignore that too
haughty star
Yes <:chadgryn:1161142998214656090> Only play the way I want you to, I'm the mai...
We have these discussions quite frequently griefing on space games
stark crown
Dead serious with you, I avoid whats the term, media? Facebook/Twitter/etc whatever right like a plague so I genuinely never understood what any of those meant
vernal frost
for some time i thought that /s meant serious
nocturne dust
lol
stark crown
for some time i thought that /s meant serious
Lock the fuck in
ripe obsidian
Wot's the go-to Trauma build? Blazing Spirit/Nexus and Flak... carapace? No idea for talents
orchid ibex
the extra crit does seem to help with proccing your blazing spirit
nocturne dust
yep that's the important part
I think this is what I use?
Haven't checked my tree in a bit
ripe obsidian
you can use carapace tho
I'm not terribly worried about carapace. Just wasn't sure
orchid ibex
@ripe obsidian personally, i go with crit chance for the extra spicy blazing spirit
ripe obsidian
I'll give it a go
nocturne dust
I'm not terribly worried about carapace. Just wasn't sure
Yeah, the crit chance is better to fish less for crits
heavy bane
what do we do in Curios? I've seen many variations of toughness maxHP and sometimes one stamina, is it just whatever you feel like or is there an objective best
ripe obsidian
200+ HP as your final goal, 20% sniper resist
Makes snipers do... 98 damage?
So you can survive 2
And also survive 2 poxbursters with the 200+ hp
The rest is mostly preference.
vernal frost
as much docket bonuses as you can get
heavy bane
how much % max HP is needed?
vernal frost
orchid ibex
21% and 5% should be enough
nocturne dust
what do we do in Curios? I've seen many variations of toughness maxHP and someti...
kinda preference, yeah
I use 1 health and 1 toughness + either stam or health depending on the weapon
ripe obsidian
I think this is what I use?
Psychic Vampire over Fire Reborn? I guess if you're not guaranteed to get soulblaze then 4% on kill is better
orchid ibex
i have one health curios with 21 and 5 to get 205 health
split lance
Wot's the go-to Trauma build? Blazing Spirit/Nexus and Flak... carapace? No idea...
flak unyeilding is my go to
nocturne dust
Psychic Vampire over Fire Reborn? I guess if you're not guaranteed to get soulbl...
You can use either. I don't remember which one I use, honestly speaking.
split lance
no
heavy bane
do we really need the +3 stam tho? I don't feel much difference my stam regen is usually enough
nocturne dust
do we really need the +3 stam tho? I don't feel much difference my stam regen is...
I use it for KD
KD scales peril gen off max stamina
ripe obsidian
I use:
2x 17% toughness
1x 21% health
1x 20% sniper resist
2x 20% gunner resist
1x 5% health
3x 5% toughness
2x 30% toughness regen
Toughness regen is contentious. Not everyone likes it.
split lance
i just checked
fringe garden
The stam is big for pushing effectiveness if that matters to you
nocturne dust
I love toughness regen
split lance
i run flak and 5% rangeed crit
ripe obsidian
i run flak and 5% rangeed crit
Seems to be the consensus
vernal frost
The stam is big for pushing effectiveness if that matters to you
dont forget to also use warp unbound so you dont blow up from pushes!!!
fringe garden
Blowing up? Who does that.
nocturne dust
dont forget to also use warp unbound so you dont blow up from pushes!!!
you only blow up from force sword extended pushes
split lance
hold R
vernal frost
Blowing up? Who does that.
based martyrdom psykers
fringe garden
Lol
vernal frost
wounds are a resource that you should use to maximize effectiveness
vernal frost
if you finish a game with wounds left you didnt play effectively enough
heavy bane
any use for taking 2x max HP?
fringe garden
Do people just keep a folder of gifs and images just open on their desktop at all times? Like some people's meme response time is just plain ridiculous
vernal frost
convert png to gifs so you can save them to discord favs
vernal frost
fringe garden
I don't speak in meme, so I'm a little clueless
orchid ibex
bottom right of discord
nocturne dust
any use for taking 2x max HP?
The reason I use 2x health is because I take ER, which reduces toughness gain. I use 1x toughness only because without it I have trouble with gunners.
half iron
still peril
those who warp💀
nocturne dust
I use 3x gunner resist, 3x sniper resist, and 3x toughness regen for perks
heavy bane
do we take stam regen ?
nocturne dust
and lawd have I tried to not have those, but always go back to them
nocturne dust
do we take stam regen ?
no
Psyker has short regen delay, can infinitely push anyway
heavy bane
I use 3x gunner resist, 3x sniper resist, and 3x toughness regen for perks
Survival is paramount my friend
nocturne dust
Survival is paramount my friend
Yes
vernal frost
3x dockets 3x xp is bis cause everything else affects things you can affect with your own gameplay choices/skill
fringe garden
I mean, you're not wrong
nocturne dust
3x dockets 3x xp is bis cause everything else affects things you can affect with...
you're missing 3x curio chance
fringe garden
But you're super wrong
nocturne dust
vernal frost
you're missing 3x curio chance
that one is debatable cause its not strictly better tbh
plucky flax
any use for taking 2x max HP?
Yeah tanky
fringe garden
It's too easy to get perfect curios now. No need regardless
nocturne dust
Take all the health and waste it by getting blown over a ledge
orchid ibex
maybe i should try the 2x max hp and see if i can stop causing my team to lose whenever i take ER
nocturne dust
It's too easy to get perfect curios now. No need regardless
Game still refuses to give me a 17%/21% curio 😭
fringe garden
Shame
vernal frost
did they ever fix the 3 stam giving you 2 stam on live?
nocturne dust
I check every day, and every day it's just trash curios
vernal frost
if it was below 70 something rating
nocturne dust
did they ever fix the 3 stam giving you 2 stam on live?
Yes but no
iirc, only a certain rating gives you 2 while saying 3
nocturne dust
He gives 500 weapons now
Which is useless because they'll always have the wrong stats
vernal frost
genuinely think that they forgot about curios then
vernal frost
i know full well that im not gonna do that but if someone does please credit me 🙏 that idea is patented now
plucky flax
Not having high end curios smh
abstract totem
Smh should’ve prayed harder
orchid ibex
today i had an ogryn pox burster jump up a ledge back up to where i was downed to save me. it's always the ogryn you can count on.
orchid ibex
beautiful symmetry
heavy bane
blessings and perks on knife ?
orchid ibex
@heavy bane i typically go uncanny and riposte
perks you can probably go with flak, maniac, carapace, and unyielding and get value from any
i often take maniac because it helps you take out a surprise rager with push stabs a little faster potentially
zinc phoenix
Which is useless because they'll always have the wrong stats
They’re useful for grinding mastery with a weapon set you don’t actually want to build out
Like I’m never gonna play ogryn after getting through its penance and mastery stuff so I’m not spending resources on developing gear for it
nocturne dust
They’re useful for grinding mastery with a weapon set you don’t actually want to...
I just buy from brunt and upgrade them to sacrifice
🤷♂️
nocturne dust
true
ripe obsidian
I assume for melee-only scab, trauma should use the rending perk instead of soulblaze?
I tried Trauma for a few games and like it more than when I last used it. Still kind of braindead, though
I stole a zealot's book.
late yew
BB can still be very good
jovial juniper
I assume for melee-only scab, trauma should use the rending perk instead of soul...
Soulblaze has respectable damage against flak
So soulblaze trauma still decent there
plucky flax
I assume for melee-only scab, trauma should use the rending perk instead of soul...
No always blaze trauma.
ripe obsidian
No always blaze trauma.
Okeydokey
Well, I built a second Trauma anyway. So now I can dual-wield and blow myself up 2x as quickly
left basin
fullcharge blauma is incredibly, incredibly good
ripe obsidian
Yeah, I like it more than I remembered
Not as fun as Voidstrike, arguably more braindead than Purg
But I'll put it above Surge for fun. I don't really like Surge.
plucky flax
Tru surge is too op
iron star
can som1 tell me a rly good build for flamethrower + the electric stun as G + ability the pushback
and also electric stuff + shield + brain pop
i want build in traits etc
strong gulch
The purg / inferno staff and smite have too much overlap. If you want to run both, go for it tho.
Surge / electro staff struggles with hordes hordes and pairs better with smite and a horde clear melee.
Both staves work with shriek + creeping flames modifier.
iron star
The purg / inferno staff and smite have too much overlap. If you want to run bot...
i do have my sword for that i just need a skill tree for those 2
strong gulch
i do have my sword for that i just need a skill tree for those 2
Purg / inferno
flak + personal pref (crit chance, unyielding, etc)
warp nexus + blaze away
dump warp resist
If you want shield, build is the same but change the ability (red). Take a single target melee.
EK/ Surge / electro (non-havoc)
flak + personal pref (unyielding, maniac, elite damage, etc)
warp flurry + warp nexus
dump warp resist
Smite is rarely used but is there for oh shit moments (this is not a smite focused build; only has a single point of investment). If you want more damage at the cost of a rarely used CC option, choose BB + KF (like purg / inferno build) for blitz.
Shriek often. 85% peril consistently gets you to max SB (soulblaze) stacks for creeping flames.
Take a horde clear melee option to balance with the single target nature of surge/ EK staff; illisi force sword fills that role and has peril gen that helps fuel shriek spam.
If you are not a KD (kinetic deflection) enjoyer, you don't have to take it.
Shriek often. 85% peril gets you to max SB (soulblaze stacks) for creeping flames.
If you are not a KD enjoyer, you don't have to take it.
haughty star
If you are not a KD enjoyer, you don't have to take it.
there are KD enjoyers, then there are people who are wrong
just jk ofc
¯_(ツ)_/¯
i just like KD for the ability to revive anyone under almost any circumstance
abstract totem
I don’t think I’ve said it today I love the Obscurus
modest perch
I don’t think anyone has ever said that
flint pawn
I don’t think I’ve said it today I love the Obscurus
I think obscurus is neat too
abstract totem
I don’t think anyone has ever said that
The middle child is cool too you know
Fuck it I live and die by it now
austere warren
Burga smite user when the sniper is 50m away.
I figured it out
Force spear
Actually are there things like that in 40k? Force polearms?
patent mango
i think so
orchid ibex
There are, I've seen force glaives and stuff.
austere warren
I want to at least have a spear beam, maybe that could be the force spear thing or whatever.
And cover sienna beam staff
But like a pulse blast instead or aomething.
Idk shit about the different classes of psyker but I've heard scab enemies refer to mine as a "beta" or whatever. There's like 5 classes of psyker right?
All Greek letter shit?
misty cypress
can you no longer sell weapons?
orchid ibex
@austere warren yep, epsilon through "alpha plus"
austere warren
<@103263517334843392> yep, epsilon through "alpha plus"
Where would beta fall under classwise? Trying to remember if I heard delta or beta. The standard scab shooter grunt reported it in their comms before I lopped their head off.
orchid ibex
@austere warren not sure but I think a beta would be pretty far up there. It may have also just been a guard callsign they were using.
kindred edge
Beta level psyker is pretty terrifyingly strong, ye
latent mauve
Idk shit about the different classes of psyker but I've heard scab enemies refer...
certainly not a beta
orchid ibex
Yeah, beta would be way up there. I think alpha/alpha plus is pretty much on par with the emperor, before he was turned into a traffic light
kindred edge
Yeah, beta would be way up there. I think alpha/alpha plus is pretty much on par...
No, Emperor's the most powerful ever. An alpha plus is a threat to entire worlds, though
I think delta is the lowest that can serve in the Guard as a combat psyker, so that's probably what the Reject psykers are
orchid ibex
@kindred edge ah ok, makes sense
misty cypress
which is a better dump stat, quell speed or warp resist? I feel like i want less warp resist because warp=toughness generation
kindred edge
I dunno, you can kinda get away with quell speed as dump if you take the +30% quell speed talent
austere warren
<@103263517334843392> not sure but I think a beta would be pretty far up there. ...
I might just be misremembering or misinterpreting so there's that.
Delta sounds more in-line or at least closer to what player character psykers are capable of (granted i literally know nothing about all those webs of lore)
kindred edge
Not ideal, still, but not terrible
haughty star
I dunno, you can kinda get away with quell speed as dump if you take the +30% qu...
quell is just so exponential i wouldn't
personally
kindred edge
Yeah, it wouldn't be my first choice either
haughty star
i can't remember the exacts but the difference between 70 and 80 quell is like multiple seconds on most staves
kindred edge
I might just be misremembering or misinterpreting so there's that.
Delta sounds...
You're correct, delta seems most appropriate for the player psykers
kindred edge
i can't remember the exacts but the difference between 70 and 80 quell is like m...
I didn't know it was that big of a difference. Yeah, if that's the case I wouldn't dump it ever.
haughty star
kindred edge
haughty star
okay @nocturne dust i will officially try your heretical nonsense
kindred edge
It's beastly, tbh
left basin
okay <@249951531552473088> i will officially try your heretical nonsense
where's the nonsense
haughty star
dumping res instead of crit
left basin
truly riveting and experimental
left basin
go on, insane person of off-meta usage
kindred edge
M1 staff so boring though
kindred edge
Well, surge is the best staff for it. M1 for little stuff, M2 for big stuff.
haughty star
yeah the new perks are pretty poggers for mixing the two
haughty star
go on, insane person of off-meta usage
the thing i don't like about this mindset is anything that's not dogshit is typically viewed as meta in this game lol
prime elk
M1 staff so *boring* though
worst part is that it makes it boring for everyone else on your team too
haughty star
so does a good smiter or good gazer?
killing everything is kinda part of a good psykers thing
orchid ibex
To be fair people just smiting all game can go kick rocks too
patent mango
the best psykers explode the first time they get into combat
austere warren
Smite is alright when steered well but it's the lowest of the blitzes for me.
nocturne dust
okay <@249951531552473088> i will officially try your heretical nonsense
+maniac
austere warren
Assail > brain burst > smite.
nocturne dust
but yes, good luck
Probably takes some getting used to if you're switching from lmb spam
lethal lagoon
Smites boring, but EP smite shriek will ruin both the scoreboard and the difficulty.
By far the strongest
Not even close
orchid ibex
Smite is a great "oh shit" tool but just locking up a horde isn't really as useful as just meleeing them or something
lethal lagoon
Smh.
EP smite kills ragers in 8 seconds, whether that's 1 or 100. It clears up horde too.
orchid ibex
I see
lethal lagoon
It's crazy boring though
kindred edge
I have an EP Smite build saved. I just don't use Smite except in emergencies. Kinda like playing an optimized caster back in D&D 3.5. I'll save my best spells so everyone else can have fun but if we start to lose out come the big guns
austere warren
I just flow into ep smite when the fight calls for it, hold as necessary then immediately let go or reposition and push the horde in a way that actually better crowds them for my aoe, teammate aoe/attacks period. It works pretty efficiently.
Albeit, the most entertaining psyker to me is most stuff running scrier and dd at the same time.
haughty star
Smite is a great "oh shit" tool but just locking up a horde isn't really as usef...
yeah seconding atlas here smite will straight up floor a room lol
that's the only real reason to dislike it tbh is because it's outrageously overpowered in the right hands
i'm kinda mixed on it cuz a good smiker can make a game fucking boring, but the one's that are both good AND use it conservatively are poggers in certain moments
orchid ibex
Yeah, I think I haven't encountered that as much
left basin
most smykers i see stand in a room's centre, vent, and then get overheaded by some schmuck that they decided not to pay attention to
flint pawn
most smykers i see stand in a room's centre, vent, and then get overheaded by so...
this except I've been playing Ogryn so I usually end up saving their ass by pulling that one crusher just before it hits them
austere warren
Shrimply slide dodge while venting. It's 🆓
wheat monolith
hey guys could i have some good builds for pysker since the update please and thank you
strong gulch
Purg / inferno #psyker-class message
Surge / electro #psyker-class message
wheat monolith
void strike isnt good anymore??
lethal lagoon
"Give me a build with 0 context"
-Doesn't give exact build he's looking for.
"????"
wheat monolith
listen
wheat monolith
i dont know what im looking for either
wheat monolith
its been awhile but its cool ill play something else thanks for the strike welcome
strong gulch
Fire trauma / voidBLAST
Flak + crit chance
warp nexus + blazing sprit
Mettle was nerfed and ER (Empyric Resolve) reduces thougness gen, so it can feel more fragile right now. If you are a KD enjoyer, you'll need to make a sacrifice. Points are at a premium because ofc.
jovial juniper
void strike isnt good anymore??
Still good
Just true aim nerf got it a bit
austere warren
80% blast radius on voidstrike is fine. Unrelated but imma drop it in here.
strong gulch
voidstrike is strill good even after mettle and true aim nerf
strong gulch
You might have fun with voidstrike and warp unbound (SG mod). You can cast at 100% peril.
I am not a void main or enjoyer tho.
nocturne dust
I enjoy void
I have a bit of an unhinged build for it tho
Works fine in Auric tho
Slap surge/nexus and flak/crit chance on and go to town
austere warren
I am not a void main or enjoyer tho.
Power Word: Ball. 🏐
wheat monolith
Purg / inferno
flak + personal pref (crit chance, unyielding, etc)
warp nexus +...
so whats the best way to use each staff and build now
didnt mean to reply my bad
nocturne dust
so whats the best way to use each staff and build now
That's the general staff build
switch psychic vampire for in fire reborn (purple nodes) on purgatus
buoyant maple
Still good
Just true aim nerf got it a bit
What nerfed true aim
wheat monolith
so you do just spam left click or right click with purg
dapper dove
any heavy sworders around here
haughty star
not in psyker chat
latent mauve
any heavy sworders around here
Yes
bronze cloak
for gun psyker what are the best blessings for autogun ?
flint pawn
Dorn is cool
jovial juniper
for gun psyker what are the best blessings for autogun ?
Dumdum Deathspitter
strong gulch
so whats the best way to use each staff and build now
Surge is fast and doesn't require a lot for aiming on the RMB. It's great for specials and shooters and is good for all elites. Purg LMB/ praimary is for stagger (ragers, maulers, shotgunners) and RMB / secondary for hordes and suppression, but crushers will need something else to really manage them. Trauma RMB is great on hordes and elites (mixed hordes); LMB for suppression and really far shooters.
All of them use a various of the warp charge build that DeadVoid posted #psyker-class message. That kind of all aim to do creeping flame (shriek) and PC spam.
bronze cloak
Dumdum Deathspitter
can you explain for me what strength is for exactly ? im kinda a noob still and dont understand stats too well yet
is it dmg or what exactly ?
strong gulch
Strength (previously named power) is damage, stagger, and cleave.
bronze cloak
oh damn thanks
strong gulch
This game is obtuse af, so please ask or search in the discord. There is so much the game doesn't tell you, explain, or explain well.
bronze cloak
also is dum dum bugged ? it seems im getting stacks no matter from where i shoot lol
strong gulch
Not that I know of, but I am not a gunker main.
bronze cloak
ah no i've read the description wrong i think
strong gulch
Think short range is 12.5m
bronze cloak
it just buffs close range dmg but i guess im getting stacks no matter what
buoyant maple
also is dum dum bugged ? it seems im getting stacks no matter from where i shoot...
Not bugged, the stack condition is repeated ranged hit
bronze cloak
yeah i missunderstood it
buoyant maple
prisma igloo
It’s my second favorite weapon
Its pretty good:) offers defense and decent enough crowd control great for psyker or in general any character if you use it well.. it looks really cool
nocturne dust
<@249951531552473088> What mark of dew claw do you like or recomend?
I use mk4 just cuz it's easy.
strong gulch
Gotcha
dapper dove
Yes
carapace worth it? on crushers and maulers. im doing carapace and elite with scriers and perfect strike
lethal lagoon
I would say 6 stacks is more orthodox than wildfire
lethal lagoon
If you are looking for the "standard" staff build
Vanilla
Basic
Adherent to the rules
nocturne dust
<:SpongeWut:595577747762446337>
nocturne dust
But it's not standard
Hm, well, I dun see anyone else constantly posting builds here so I'm the standard
nocturne dust
I mean the town idiot is the only one yelling stuff in the square...
Dumdum never heard of a town crier
lethal lagoon
Okay but still, 6 stacks makes more sense.
Especially since the average psyker isn't going to be spamming shriek on CD anyways
So plenty of time will be spent at 6 stacks
nocturne dust
I mean, I'm not giving builds for 'average' tho, otherwise I'd dump everything except defense
pubs can't stay alive 😭
nocturne dust
Not my job
lethal lagoon
Fair.
Honestly a lot of my pub games nothing really happens
But like if I chill back a bit, someone will usually die.
My favorite "clutch" is when I went "afk" in a corner to finish the vet ammo penance.
And they all died
nocturne dust
I mean I can generally keep everyone from dying but going down is another story
lethal lagoon
I almost never rez downed pubs
They usually die in really stupid spots
Which tbf, that's how they died.
And it's not like them being alive was contributing much.
I will always help Psykers with premature e-
Though.
nocturne dust
Fair, main reason I take devil's claw and stamina is I can manage stupid revives with it
lethal lagoon
But like, think of all the DPS you lost rezzing someone who wasn't doing that much DPS
nocturne dust
I would lose more dps by not having meat shields and having to clutch
buoyant maple
I would lose more dps by not having meat shields and having to clutch
Clutch is sorta just dps farm tho no? Unless ur bothered by the reduced spawn intensity
nocturne dust
Clutch is sorta just dps farm tho no? Unless ur bothered by the reduced spawn in...
I'm bothered by the pressure of having 3 dead people watching me 😭
buoyant maple
I'm bothered by the pressure of having 3 dead people watching me 😭
Spectating good players is a faster way to improve than playing when they don’t know much to begin with
strong gulch
I'm bothered by the pressure of having 3 dead people watching me 😭
true tho
nocturne dust
Spectating good players is a faster way to improve than playing when they don’t ...
Me about to commit every mistake in the book because I'm now under pressure
buoyant maple
Me about to commit every mistake in the book because I'm now under pressure
Remember to quick swap weapons while sliding, you’ll look like you know what you’re doing even when you don’t
prisma igloo
Remember to quick swap weapons while sliding, you’ll look like you know what you...
Because skillz
strong gulch
I was meming and scheming on my level 10 character last night in a T4 when everyone when down but I was still going. My "DO NOT PERCEIVE ME" kicked in so hard. lol
prisma igloo
Congratulations
cold geode
Quell speed or damage on trauma as dump stat?
uncut sinew
quell speed
cold geode
okie
nocturne dust
Quell speed or damage on trauma as dump stat?
warp res
but quell speed if one or the other
strong gulch
Yeah the general consensus is warp resist, but if you prefer to dump quell, then do that.
latent mauve
where tf are the spawns man....
crisp yacht
for blaze trauma should i take wildfire or not ?
nice to have but not necessary
it doesnt work as well as it sounds
strong gulch
for blaze trauma should i take wildfire or not ?
Yeah. It basically precooks and helps get SB stacks up faster.
Spam shriek for more fire.
bronze cloak
i assume its difficulty depended too ? like on damnation is not a dead perk i hope ?
i've did some runs yesterday with my friends
on damnation and we really needed wave clear
so figured might go for trauma
strong gulch
It isn't dead, it is niche tho. Fire trauma makes some of the better use out of it.
bronze cloak
so if enemy dies with 4 stacks does it apply 4 stacks to everyone around that enemy ?
nocturne dust
i assume its difficulty depended too ? like on damnation is not a dead perk i ho...
Definitely not
I would recommend wildfire for maximum dps on aurics for every staff
but, y'know, if you're looking at a strong preference talent, you can probably drop wildfire for it
crisp yacht
I would recommend wildfire for maximum dps on aurics for every staff
every staff? are you assuming shriek build?
nocturne dust
every staff? are you assuming shriek build?
yes
strong gulch
Wildfire has a cap of 4 and speads stacks evenly. If an enemy with 4 sb stacks dies and is surrounded, it will give 1 sb stack to 4 enemies.
bronze cloak
Wildfire has a cap of 4 and speads stacks evenly. If an enemy with 4 sb stacks d...
ahh ok
thank you
why is it phrased so weirdly
first thing i assumed it would just dump 4 stacks to everyone around the mob
strong gulch
Wildfire helps spread SB beyond your range and help get SB stacks up faster.
rigid mortar
Hey just a quick question what is the highest toughness you can get on psyker?
strong gulch
why is it phrased so weirdly
Good question. Are you listening fatshark??? 😭
thorn cedar
i mean its that or a tooltip roughly the size ofan essay intro
strong gulch
To be fair, most of their explanations are dookie
thorn cedar
yea cause you'd have to write so fucking much that most people would just roll their eyes
"Whenever an enemy who is affected by at least two stacks of Psyker's Soulblaze dies, Soulblaze is spread to valid targets within a 5m radius. Targets do not receive Soulblaze stacks caused by the talent if they already have 4 stacks or more on them. Valid targets can receive Soulblaze stacks up to a maximum of 4 that are caused by the talent. Daemonhosts are no valid targets.
The amount of Soulblaze stacks that is spread depends on the amount of Soulblaze stacks on the dying enemy: If the enemy dies with 1 stack, no spread; if dying with 2 stacks, 2 stacks will spread; if dying with 3 stacks, 3 stacks will spread; if dying with 4 stacks, 4 stacks will spread; if dying with more than 4 stacks, only 4 stacks will spread.
The maximum amount of valid targets is 4: If 4 stacks are to be spread and 4 targets are in range, each target receives 1 stack; if 4 stacks are to be spread and 3 targets are in range, 1 target receives 2 stacks while the other 2 targets receive 1 stack each, etc."
bronze cloak
it could take less explaining what it does than lmao whats on the tool tip already
thorn cedar
sure, put that on a tooltip
left basin
skree build best build
thorn cedar
players will totally read it
nocturne dust
Hey just a quick question what is the highest toughness you can get on psyker?
250 very roughly or something iirc
bronze cloak
"when enemy dies while affected by your soulblaze spread up to 4 stacks of soublaze evenly to surrounding enemies. They cannot gain more stacks than the dying enemy had."
like this explains what it actually does
left basin
dream shit, i want to be a psyker and have demon orbiters
young dune
alright search function is being uncooperative. Is the electro staff's dumpstat quell speed, warp resistance or either or
kindred edge
WR
nocturne dust
warp res
left basin
schlorg bobs
young dune
damn found one with minimum quell
ivory path
Trauma is infinite cleave right?
lethal lagoon
Trauma is infinite cleave right?
Si
ivory path
was double checking to make sure it didnt need warp splitting
bronze cloak
Definitely not
forgot to reply, thanks ill screw around with it a little bit
also why is quell prefered over warp resistance for dump stat ?
nocturne dust
also why is quell prefered over warp resistance for dump stat ?
it isn't
bronze cloak
you get more spells out at high peril if you dump for shorter amount of time ?
nocturne dust
warp res is preferred
bronze cloak
ok thanks
nocturne dust
quell speed is a dump because of preference for some people, not because it's more effective/useful to dump it over warp res
warp res is the stat you dump on every staff (except voidstrike) because it doesn't do much and the negative of dumping it is super minimal
urban jungle
I... prefer Warp Res over Quell Speed, because I spam secondary attacks on most staffs (except the Flamer one) and the one I need it on the most is the Trauma Force Staff, where fully charging them is needed for big damage.
nocturne dust
To be fair, quell speed was more a preference thing before the latest update. I'm unsure if the supporters of it from before are still into it what with ER being a thing.
ivory path
I prefer dumping quell because to me it makes edging warp rider feel easier
abstract totem
Quelling ??
urban jungle
In case you don't know, its basically the thing where you reduce your perils, the number with the skull next to it that, if it reaches 100%, makes you explode
abstract totem
Never heard of it
crisp yacht
queller? i barely know her
abstract totem
Slightly funny I’ll give you that
fresh reef
is there actual 40k lore behind this goofy ass mask?
abstract totem
is there actual 40k lore behind this goofy ass mask?
Armadillo
cedar gale
dump stat for staff?
nocturne dust
dump stat for staff?
warp res, or blast radius on voidstrike
cedar gale
warp res, or blast radius on voidstrike
best blessings for the elect staff?
cedar gale
nexus, flurry
warp nexus right
nocturne dust
surge/nexus for lmb spam (which can dump charge speed)
nocturne dust
warp nexus right
yes
left dagger
huh just regdamn shocktrooper gauntlet all 3 vets go down while i aggro boss. the signs were clear when they domino'd in previous disabler/ rager waves
vagrant grove
deadvoid what blessings on my surge
vagrant grove
ah you see, i dont actually need the blessings
i know what to put, i was simply making a joke while replying to my surge staff to get your thoughts on it
vagrant grove
true smh my head
i also put the tube on the wrong side
i already switched it though
nocturne dust
lmao I would've never noticed
broken carbon
Is nice staff <:thumbsup_ogryn:1063452727302180926>
hey what blessings do i want on a electro staff
abstract totem
hey what blessings do i want on a electro staff
are you using the left click or right
nocturne dust
hey what blessings do i want on a electro staff
mossy oyster
is there actual 40k lore behind this goofy ass mask?
I asked them to put it in
vagrant grove
is there actual 40k lore behind this goofy ass mask?
sometimes psykers wear blindfolds because it enhancess their witch sight
the screws or whatever are probably psy-ehancers
fresh reef
Right, I got that part
fresh reef
the screws or whatever are probably psy-ehancers
Like, "this shit has some mystical properties bro, put it in the armor"
Basically
vagrant grove
correct
if you asked the admech that made it they'd probably say, "I don't fucking know but it works doesn't it?"
nocturne dust
yes
Deimos never uses the special, so warp resistance doesn't matter
and it's still the dump on illisi
vagrant grove
deimos can use special for muties for a one shot no?
nocturne dust
You can one-shot muties with h2
h2 does more damage than the special more efficiently
There is never a reason to use the special, it makes you vulnerable and does damage slowly
vagrant grove
neat, i love game balance that encourages you to actively avoid the main mechanics of a weapon
green musk
so i also want 60 warp for the staff?
nocturne dust
lol, it's actually my favorite force sword specifically because you don't have to use the special
nocturne dust
so i also want 60 warp for the staff?
on most staves, yes
dapper dove
i want one
orchid ibex
anyone use the devil's claw IV? what's the horde rotation for it? can i left mouse spam or should i force my idiot brain to l1>h2 for the sweeps?
broken carbon
anyone use the devil's claw IV? what's the horde rotation for it? can i left mou...
dclaw 7 is better, but light heavy for horde clear
orchid ibex
better how?
broken carbon
better how?
better move set
nocturne dust
I like dclaw 4 cuz it's simpler
broken carbon
parry leads immediately into overhead light
vagrant grove
i want one
DM me
broken carbon
which is good for single target
orchid ibex
i'm new to devil's claw
broken carbon
access to a sweeping heavy immediately is a bit better for horde clear
orchid ibex
i think i'm missing the single target you're talking about, you said the light after a parry is overhead?
broken carbon
i think i'm missing the single target you're talking about, you said the light a...
when you parry an enemy
and your character does the riposte attack
orchid ibex
oh sorry, i get it
brisk vine
what's a psyker build that is a kind of "jack of all trades" ? Decent melee, decent ranged capabilities, and decent boss damage.
fast coral
what's the timing on pressing R on a purg lmb to get soulblaze stacks up if needed in a situation? can't seem to figure it out
i do it accidentally sometimes lmao
modest perch
Wat
nocturne dust
what's a psyker build that is a kind of "jack of all trades" ? Decent melee, de...
imo psyker never really gets decent melee. Psyker is largely a ranged class.
Gunker kinda does everything because they're also meleeker
but is imo a whole lot weaker than staffker
nocturne dust
what's the timing on pressing R on a purg lmb to get soulblaze stacks up if need...
wdym?
R? Quell? 
fast coral
ye
my bad
i don't want to use a macro, just manually because i dont see a reason to spam it. only really need it in certain situations
nocturne dust
ah, you're talking about quell cancelling
you really don't need to do it at any difficulty, especially on any build that isn't lmb spam
but, if you really want to use it, it's a matter of learning the timing yourself. I think the timing is ~0.3 - 0.4 seconds according to one of the macro users
fast coral
that makes sense, its seems like a super narrow window
strong gulch
what's a psyker build that is a kind of "jack of all trades" ? Decent melee, de...
Surge / electro staff + PC + creeping flames + illisi
nocturne dust
It's not super narrow, I was able to do it first try to some degree, it's just a matter of how efficient you want to be with it.
fast coral
yeh
nocturne dust
Although, to note, the first try is also my only try out of curiosity
I don't quell cancel and run aurics all day. It really isn't needed, even with lmb spam which wants it most.
but if you want that max dps, go for it I guess, lol
strong gulch
Quell canceling is cool and can bump up what you do, BUT fecking up your quell cancel is worse than the standard speed.
strong gulch
To be fair tho, some things are easier to quell cancel than others.
ornate hamlet
what's a psyker build that is a kind of "jack of all trades" ? Decent melee, de...
Make a gun psyker, put a melee weapon in their hand, watch everything die
strong gulch
Psyker biggest boss dps is for sure gunker. Melee and gun psyker have nearly the same build.
nocturne dust
Beam staff wheeeeeeeeeen
nocturne dust
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046914150363844779/1299759716519641098...
Now show them the efficient way with h2 
plucky flax
No special is cooler
nocturne dust
No special is cooler <:geltmoai:1088457111052222504>
Science is coolest, and it would be comparative science to have a video of h2 alongside a video of special
nocturne dust
Boring
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/12925249177529...
Nah, it's cool
It's why I take thrust on dueling sword
plucky flax
nocturne dust
nah, I really like the immediate dropping of the big fat chonky guy that is annoying
It makes my seratonin flow
Only thing that would be better is if it was Grunt Birthday Party
broken carbon
This is cool you combine everything
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/10469...
erm
errmm
u don’t have to do the push attack
empowered attacks on the fs do the same damage on h1 or h2
holy noob alert
broken carbon
can’t stand these noobs….
ruining my auric games..
they’re the reason i’m only getting 200k damage with a rashad…
young dune
I'm trying to understand assail, not just what its purpose is by how the damn thing actually works.
green musk
I'm trying to understand assail, not just what its purpose is by how the damn th...
you throw, it go
young dune
and sometimes it hits 3 targets, sometimes 2 maybe none. Where do I point my cursor. it kinda follows the cursor but not exaclty, how does that work. Is it like the halflife 2 rocket launcher or something else, how many enemies can I hit in one throw, what are the different use cases for the primary and secondary fire versions?
See my confusion?
nocturne dust
and sometimes it hits 3 targets, sometimes 2 maybe none. Where do I point my cur...
It has soft targeting around your cursor, RMB has hard targeting on the first target and then soft targeting
also RMB does slightly more damage
young dune
so if I pass my cursor over a crowd, ittle just kinda pick one it feels like (non derogatory) meanwhile the right mouse has a slower fire rate but I can pick one to specifically mess with
strong gulch
and sometimes it hits 3 targets, sometimes 2 maybe none. Where do I point my cur...
Assail is under "Blitz Nodes (Part III)".
Edit: I never posted the link lol! Sorry. Here it is. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3094028505
broken carbon
and sometimes it hits 3 targets, sometimes 2 maybe none. Where do I point my cur...
rmb does more damage, goes faster, and will always hit the target you threw it at first before any other targets
good for snipers
young dune
like, say, the squishier elites.
nocturne dust
yes
young dune
oh it does do more neat!
strong gulch
Sorry. Added the link this time
ripe obsidian
I have learned that Trauma instapops bursters. This is not always ideal.
jovial juniper
It's good and it isn't good
ripe obsidian
It's good when my team is not sprinting past me to push the burster
It's bad when my team is flying in at mach speed to push the burster
broken carbon
I have learned that Trauma instapops bursters. This is not always ideal.
any explosive damage will instantly kill a burster
ripe obsidian
I normally do not have explosive damage
mystic pike
you know i dont get something so when i'm using smite to stun lock heretics and a teammate is downed why dont other teammates help revive them
ripe obsidian
Typically I use Smite on extra poxburster modifiers to shove them away
plucky flax
you know i dont get something so when i'm using smite to stun lock heretics and ...
I'm busy killing the smited targets sorry
ripe obsidian
you know i dont get something so when i'm using smite to stun lock heretics and ...
Suffer not the weak to live.
mystic pike
what so teammates just go after smited targets instead of reviving said downed teammate?
jovial juniper
I normally do not have explosive damage
Since is explosive damage you can make a bon spew your teammate during the swallowing animation
ripe obsidian
Since is explosive damage you can make a bon spew your teammate during the swall...
I did not know that either. How exactly does that work?
jovial juniper
Just make sure to give a good charge first
ripe obsidian
Neat
flint pawn
flint pawn
14% 😭
ripe obsidian
After moving to Auric Maelstrom, Auric HISTG is almost relaxing. Almost.
strong gulch
@nocturne dust I tried your unhinged voidstrike build and it was the most fun I've had with with.
broken carbon
<@249951531552473088> I tried your unhinged voidstrike build and it was the most...
the feet shooting voidstrike build?
ripe obsidian
Which unhinged build is that?
nocturne dust
<@249951531552473088> I tried your unhinged voidstrike build and it was the most...
Fire dumb, use balls
nocturne dust
Which unhinged build is that?
The one I gave you earlier iirc
ripe obsidian
Ah, the one after my build hurt you
nocturne dust
maybe?
ripe obsidian
This one
nocturne dust
...I've been on this Discord too much today
strong gulch
This one.
ripe obsidian
When do you use Assail with Voidstrike?
nocturne dust
When do you use Assail with Voidstrike?
because I need the points
ripe obsidian
When, not why
strong gulch
also when smaller shooters are scattered around
broken carbon
also true
pliant tendon
i have a few voidblast force staves and i want to upgrade one, which stat would you say is less important- warp resistance or quell speed? or charge rate
ripe obsidian
i have a few voidblast force staves and i want to upgrade one, which stat would ...
Warp resist
nocturne dust
I mainly use assail for 'things are everywhere and I shouldn't be here but I can't just leave them so here, have some glass shards to the face'
while I run away
plucky flax
No assails upgrade is sad
nocturne dust
but yes, you use it for scattered shooters and such
nocturne dust
No assails upgrade is sad
It really doesn't need it I find
10 shards is plenty, you use voidstrike mostly
and I need the points
broken carbon
does that build have
plucky flax
Guess you don't use it as much as me
pliant tendon
Warp resist
that's what i thought, thanks
nocturne dust
wait splitter?
warp splitter, yes
strong gulch
Melee weave means things are in your face. So to help with hordes or stagger things that are right up on you.
nocturne dust
It's a voidstrike build, so of course it has warp splitter
broken carbon
warp splitter, yes
then yeah u don’t really need assail upgrades
broken carbon
It's a voidstrike build, so of course it has warp splitter
i don’t play psyker ok all of my information i get thru diffusion and dissemination
so it’s a little unclear
strong gulch
You can also pop off a few shards to just give yourself some time to reposition defensively or aggresively.
nocturne dust
Yep
errant pawn
I like using assail as a space cutter against shooters
nocturne dust
i’m so smart
plucky flax
Giving psyker advice but not a psyker 
nocturne dust
Like, there's a lot of things the build would love to have. Perilous combustion is literally one point away, it just literally doesn't have the point. Nothing on that build is expendable.
broken carbon
Giving psyker advice but not a psyker <:ikneel:1075784457648357416>
i wasn’t giving advice
just lurkin
plucky flax
nocturne dust
But it is my favorite voidstrike build because it's fun and you get to spam balls everywhere without a care.
broken carbon
<:pepesurrender:759374139055931393>
https://discord.com/channels/72707427672496...
i was just ensuring that’s why they didn’t take any upgrades
because i wanted 2 be well informed
for whenever i do go back to playing psyker
lethal lagoon
broken carbon
<a:2BDance:1137843585237123073>
gooner.
lethal lagoon
Hey you said it