psyker-class

[quartz barn]

surge nexus with flak crit chance

[zinc phoenix]

if i dont put two balls in a crusher's face on the first try i will commit sudoku

[quartz barn]

dont be like the random pub i saw yesterday and run crit dmg and crit chance xd

[zinc phoenix]

nah crit damage is dumb

i think i run carapace for the other one

[ripe obsidian]

I'm using surge/nexus with flakiac currently.

[fiery wigeon]

crit damage is ok

[vagrant grove]

aint no way

[quartz barn]

ye idk

[fiery wigeon]

25% mods are better though

[ripe obsidian]

Still hitting 60%+ crit chance without the +5% crit chance perk

[zinc phoenix]

you could be 65%

[quartz barn]

crit dmg is bad lol

[vagrant grove]

?

what

[ripe obsidian]

I could.

[clear heath]

crit damage is bad yes

[vagrant grove]

i felt bad before but now i see you just have bad opinions dude

[zinc phoenix]

but also voidstrike clear cuts through mobs without the damage mult if you aim for heads

[quartz barn]

wait lemme get on and see what the actual dmg increase would be on void

with crit dmg

[clear heath]

crit damage only affects the damage added by the crit, not the total

so it's just fucked

[ripe obsidian]

I miss True Aim filling fully on a single blast

[clear heath]

same with weakspot damage

[quartz barn]

wait a sec

those are counted seperately?

on weakspot crit

wtf

[ripe obsidian]

Weakspot and crit are different damage bonuses, yes

[zinc phoenix]

[vagrant grove]

still hate fatshark for doing that

[clear heath]

low numbers on perks and shitty formula for damage calculation
the perfect combo

[vagrant grove]

it couldve been a decent perk

[quartz barn]

ye but how does it decide what the dmg bonus would be when you get a weakspot crit

[clear heath]

the perk only increases the damage it's responsible for increasing

[ripe obsidian]

If crit adds +20%, then the crit bonus is +10% on top of that, you do like +22% damage instead of +20%

[quartz barn]

unless it just adds weakspot dmg and crit dmg seperately to the base dmg

[ripe obsidian]

Korrekt

[quartz barn]

which uh?

why can fs not do %s man wtf

[clear heath]

your weakspot perk will increase the weakspot damage
your crit damage perk will increase the crit damage
base damage unchanged

the most cursed perks

[fiery wigeon]

i said "ok" not "good", as in it does add a little bit of damage which is better than several of the perks on the list can say

[misty cypress]

are there still two variations of the shock maul? i keep only getting Agni

[quartz barn]

why not make it so weakspots are a 20% dmg increase, and crit adds idk 50% on top of that

[zinc phoenix]

why change

[upper sun]

weakspot damage is essentially (weakspot damage-normald damage)%10

[clear heath]

the person who made the damage formula and person who chose the perk numbers were probably different people who never communicated

[upper sun]

elite its a far better perk does more damage and is general

[clear heath]

cause 10% looks logical if you assumed it worked on the total damage

but it doesn't

[upper sun]

someone from here reported it and they told them "no :333 its functioning as intended"

[quartz barn]

ye i dont get it

[upper sun]

pfeonix or what was his name

angry orange psyker

[clear heath]

lmao

[quartz barn]

void vs unarmored does 682 dmg
crit and weakspot are both 1165

but crit weakspot is 1487

so what part of the 1487 comes from crit, and which part comes from weakspot

i guess weakspot first, and then crit

which makes crit dmg even worse when you hit heads, or vice versa if crit goes before weakspot

????????????

[strong gulch]

You can change the mark at will. I never messed with the smauls, so IDK if psyker has more than one. If we do, you can just change it.

[zinc phoenix]

We have two

Shock maul pretty nice

Horde clear with a taser special for making the bad man stop touch you

Block blessing auto tazes stuff

Bonus damage vs the tazed

Underrated stick imo

[strong gulch]

They are always trying to touch us. One infested hand taps our shoulders and that's it.

[clear heath]

yeah honestly idk the damage formula off the top of my head
and the game has a ton of weird quirks with specific situations, like arms reducing ranged damage and some weird shit with armor

[quartz barn]

i mean thats just different armor types per body part

[clear heath]

game is just wack
but in general, the weakspot and crit damage perks just barely do anything

no even same armor type, some things have damage modifiers

like dogs have same armor type has poxwalkers but take way more damage from melee iirc

[quartz barn]

but idk about the whole crit weakspot thing

weakspot and crit are both a 70% dmg increase

and if both proc a 120% increase

[strong gulch]

There was an issue with tesing things on cara. The weakspot damage wasn't adding up as expected for the warp damage debuff talent.

[zinc phoenix]

You should just accept that it is the way it is because it is

[quartz barn]

but no clue if the added 50% counts as weakspot or crit for the perk xd

[ripe obsidian]

Testing voidstrike LMB in Psykhanium on Dreg Rager:
Bodyshot - 173
Crit - 410
headshot - 279
Headshot crit - 459

[clear heath]

yeah i was testing this earlier and anything below a certain adm (enough to make a clink sound) fucked up the damage in an inconsistent way

[zinc phoenix]

How does that line up with the predictions in the in game attack breakdown?

[clear heath]

also fucks up focus target in the same way

[strong gulch]

Fecking odd.

[clear heath]

where focus target that should be 21% damage increase was an 8% if you did an uncharged power sword swing and bounced

cursed af

[clear heath]

it's not the same % reduction every time nor the same flat reduction
so I dont know what the formula was for that fuckery

[quartz barn]

roughly checks out

[strong gulch]

vibes

[zinc phoenix]

Everything we know is a lie 😱

[ripe obsidian]

And on breakpoint calculator:

[clear heath]

this cursed shit is what i meant

[misty cypress]

Thanks! I’ll look for that

[quartz barn]

poor vet getting pinged

[clear heath]

wait do forward ping you?

whoops

[ripe obsidian]

I posted the wrong rager in that breakpoint screenshot

[strong gulch]

This weapon cosmetic and mark change buttons are in the same place.

[quartz barn]

welcome to psyker chat, where we swap our day jobs for darktide data analysts

[clear heath]

the game is held together by pieces of string that are channeling the warp

[quartz barn]

and just like regular data analysts we have no clue what we're doing lmao

[clear heath]

no one knows how it works

[slate oasis]

anybody know if there's a mod that lets you have unique keybinds set up for each class?

tried googling and all I found was a reddit post where the top answer was "why would you need this?" very helpful as always, reddit

[quartz barn]

valid question tho

[analog agate]

There isn’t

I use different profiles on my keyboard and mouse

[clear heath]

i understand why you'd need it actually, but no there isn't one that i'm aware of either

[quartz barn]

also ye you'd need multiple text docs for keybinds

[clear heath]

zealot throwing knife moment

[quartz barn]

but you'd need a mod that auto picks the right setup

[slate oasis]

this is the exact reason I was looking for a mod like that lol

[ripe obsidian]

I don't understand why a crit-headshot only adds 49 damage over a crit bodyshot

[misty cypress]

Awesome thank you!

[clear heath]

the reason is because the game sucks

bad game

[quartz barn]

honestly

they probably dont stack correctly

because % over %

so in reality you get a 70% buff over a 70% buff

instead of 170 and then 70

[slate oasis]

different classes have abilities that can feel fine on one and awkward on another depending on the keybind. don't want to go into the options and swap keybinding every time I swap classes

[clear heath]

i find g awkward for knives but it makes sens for grenades
my solution is to get the mod that lets you have a second keybind and have an alternate grenade key on my mouse for knives

but that's not the best solution if you're running out of keys to press

[slate oasis]

I'll try that mod

[clear heath]

could also try asking the modding discord. i think they have a request channel

[strong gulch]

This isn't what you're asking for, but it's closer than default options. Multibind lets you bind different things in the game to the same key.
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/337

[vagrant grove]

Yeah, I was about to say I had issues with that so I commissioned a mod

He got to it first though

[slate oasis]

just need to figure out the least awkward button to put throwing knives on

[strong gulch]

When your throwing knife is bound to mouse scroll down.

[clear heath]

mine is scroll up

[strong gulch]

[ripe obsidian]

I have scroll up assigned to ping

[late sapphire]

arms and legs!

[ripe obsidian]

It does not make sense.
Weakpoint is +106 damage (~62% increase)
Crit is +237 damage (~138% increase)

Togther that would be +200%, so 172 damage * 3 = 516. But instead a weakpoint crit is 458, which is only a 166% increase.

[late sapphire]

Finesse and crit bonus damage is both finesse damage, and the finesse bonus damage curve has diminishing returns

[upper sun]

OH SHIT SHIT SHIT

SCAB MELEE

[ripe obsidian]

I did not know this

[ripe obsidian]

I can't play it. D: I am on a work call because people are unplugging switches and didn't plan properly.

[upper sun]

its okie

[ripe obsidian]

So now I have to ask them why they're unplugging stuff.

[upper sun]

5 minutes and its out

[ripe obsidian]

RIP

[upper sun]

im pubbing it

[late sapphire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QlBkFN9RRw

it's a year old but i thiiiink the formula still fits

[fiery stratus]

wait guys what if you play how i do

stab things

idk how shit works

or how to play well

just stab

[upper sun]

team died and left me

[late sapphire]

i died but the sg brauma psyker clutched

[upper sun]

i should have dodged and requeued as soon as i saw the extra wounds

😭

[hollow current]

🤢

[ripe obsidian]

You deserved it.

[upper sun]

why

[ripe obsidian]

You didn't carry them hard enough.

[late sapphire]

@upper sun do normal board scab

[upper sun]

no

[ripe obsidian]

No one has answered me, so I will ask again. Is Auric Maelstrom Auric Hi Int + modifiers or HISTG + modifiers?

[upper sun]

ITS MALICE

EW

[hollow current]

Maelstrom is the center mission with the skull.

[ripe obsidian]

I am aware of that.

I am asking about the difficulty level.

[clear heath]

i think he's asking if the shocktroop modifier is baked into maelstrom by default

[hollow current]

oh the base modifier? I don't think it's any different. from the other aurics but I haven't been around lately.

[clear heath]

i don't actually know tbh, i can't tell

i don't think so

[ripe obsidian]

This is what I am asking

[hollow current]

@verbal thistle he knows maybe

[clear heath]

I kinda assumed it needed waves of specialists modifier to match shocktroop. I tend to not run maelstrom unless there's a lot of hard conditions so i've never checked the easier ones

[late yew]

What are good weapon combos with brain busting?

[clear heath]

purg

[verbal thistle]

yes it is

[late yew]

Feels like it realyl wants to have assail

[ripe obsidian]

Thank you

So Auric Maelstrom is Auric HISTG + modifiers

[clear heath]

i only really run brain burst to cover what inferno staff doesn't do (long range precision and crushers) Otherwise i just don't really care for it at all

[plucky flax]

Yes.

[ripe obsidian]

This is the knowledge I craved

[clear heath]

nah
I mean that works too for snipers but i like the tree pathing better on left side

aside from super long range, assail isn't really covering much that purg isn't

psykinetic's aura is too valuable to trade for killing the sniper slightly faster

[late yew]

regular shooters

[clear heath]

burn them

[hollow jolt]

assail should be buffed I agree

[clear heath]

they're not that far

[late yew]

ah, right, good point about aura

[clear heath]

if it weren't for psykinetic's aura, it could really go either way

[hollow jolt]

god why can't I get Psykinetic aura and assail

come on Fatshark let me have my cake and eat it too

[hollow current]

just drop PA to 1% 😎

[clear heath]

don't you dare touch my ability spam crutch

[upper sun]

i cant

i fucking cant

[upper sun]

i tried the malice scab maelstrom

one dude kept dying and dcing then connecting back

one dude is doing the puzzle for 5 minutes

[plucky flax]

You need carry?

[upper sun]

one dude is ping spamming

[plucky flax]

[upper sun]

needed

[clear heath]

why are you doing malice maelstrom?

[upper sun]

because scab auric is gone

[hollow current]

just block people that do it so when they leave they cant reconnect with their script lol

[clear heath]

did you need to test something in scab only?

[upper sun]

@plucky flax 20 minutes ago was nice

[upper sun]

ye i blocked him after when i noticed

[mossy oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

[hollow current]

when you catch them doing it in game with a buddy is the best.

[upper sun]

i wanted to play malice err auric not malice

[mossy oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/ryosuke-takahashi-initial-d-ryosuke-tea-sips-gif-16618779

[slate oasis]

what's the mission where Hadron gives you a motivational speech at the start and then feels gross about it afterwards? I've only ever heard it one time

[mossy oyster]

good pants

[delicate dove]

Oh yeah, I've heard that, wish I remembered

[narrow herald]

https://youtu.be/OeVAYTaY80Y?si=2Iy5TNys4PpZWom2

[late sapphire]

Man i hate rejoiners

Always some 'clever' guy who thinks exploiting his way outta a net or off a ledge is cool

[ripe obsidian]

Sounds like heretic thinking to me.

[narrow herald]

Guys this "crit" build has 10 crit

Crazy numbers I know 😤

[near drift]

should rejoin abusers be sentenced to 1000 years of solitary confinement or death? 100 out of 100 survey respondents say yes

[late sapphire]

rejoin abusers should have their dad rejoin their lives and then leave

[mossy oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/the-rock-meme-gif-26272192

[hollow jolt]

can someone link me a mod that alt+F4s and reconnects me the instant I go down

kk thx

[mossy oyster]

disconnect + reconnect

ez

[late sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1298000164228956193/got-the-suicide-quickhack-big-fan-v0-zhblfmwunx6c1.webp?ex=671d3e5a&is=671becda&hm=962166430685d7c53b794b2eb29fc11a57751ec8f354d3d1cfe2460237316b60&

[hollow jolt]

too much work

[hollow jolt]

UwU

[left hare]

which recon lasgun does gunker use

is it xii flakiac dumdum deathspit

[plucky flax]

Dumdum infernus.

[radiant frigate]

lasweapons without infernus make me go ??

[tired estuary]

p sure recon vet better off with dumdum deathspitter but gunker crit rate favors infernus

[left hare]

need more crit rate on the wep or just maniac instead

i'm coming from vet and they prefer deathspit yea

[zinc phoenix]

more crit

MORE

MORE

[radiant frigate]

as if vet has less crit

[fresh reef]

is perils explosion damage affected by anything?

[tired estuary]

the way vet dmg works means by the time you're even stacking infernus they're Fucking Dead, more power means its taking less shots

so crit is just there for saving ammo

[jovial juniper]

Probably by Strength

Idk
I don't go pop

[radiant frigate]

i usually look at infernus as boss damage

and it really elevates that

[tired estuary]

if vet wants boss dmg then they pick a different gun/swap to melee

[fallen spindle]

Is there a lore reason why everyone is so racist when it comes to the psykers?

[buoyant maple]

Yes, because they’re Psykers

[jovial juniper]

Walking gates of space hell

[left hare]

because they're space hell gates

[elder glade]

You can point in some general direction when it comes to lore and you'll at least find 10 reasons

[jovial juniper]

[slate oasis]

they hate psykers because they read what people type in #psyker-class

[tired estuary]

beyond possibly being able to kill you with a thought they can also be forcibly taken over by warp beings and turned into unstoppable abominations, or fleshy gates for unstoppable abominations, or maybe posessed by something much more patient and insidious than a screaming flesh beast or slaughter demon

personally I'm just racist against smite users

[fallen spindle]

...wouldent that make them be feared If people stop to think for five minutes? Like...its like teasing a Jinchuuriki from Naruto, If you make him mad BOOOOOMMMMMMMMM you open a fucking gate for a new chaos god

Sorry If my english is bad tho

[tired estuary]

oh and its also institutionalized b/c the asshole corpse on a throne that makes the whole "intergalactic space travel" thing for humans even work needs constant sacrifices of psykers to keep running

[ripe obsidian]

I wonder if Lethal Proximity affects Perils explosion...

[radiant frigate]

psykers are also just creepy

[late sapphire]

Psykers can read your mind

And turn you inside out

[fallen spindle]

They have badass aura TF you mean

[radiant frigate]

you should really think more kindly of me, you know

who knows

i might be listening

[late sapphire]

Met another zealot mad enough about smikers to pull demonhosts and leave

[broken carbon]

in the age of strife (basically the entire imperium went to shit for a while), the planets that survived the best were the planets who’d execute any psykers among their populations

[late sapphire]

Mad enough to rejoin and pull a 2nd demonhost

[fallen spindle]

NO WAY THERE IS A FAN OF MURDER DRONES THAT ALSO LIKES WARHAMMER

[late sapphire]

The fuck is a murder drones

[jovial juniper]

Dead psyker=problem solved

[fallen spindle]

Indie series

[broken carbon]

youtube series animated by the same people that r making digital circus

[late sapphire]

Ok you could have just said it's ass

[fallen spindle]

We dont talk about the Devil.

[radiant frigate]

think of it

no psyker means no randomly exploding into daemons

[late sapphire]

By the way, why doesn't my socials tab work

is it actually because of mods as fatshark said?

[fallen spindle]

And the emperors death too

[radiant frigate]

asozial

[broken carbon]

digital circus episode 3 made me actually like digital circus

[radiant frigate]

i am told it is who are you and/or true level

[broken carbon]

it’s actually pretty peak

[late sapphire]

Both of these are not working so i might as well disable em

[fallen spindle]

Its good If you are a teenager

[broken carbon]

the episodes get exponentially better as u continue

[jovial juniper]

Who are you and true level were trolling
But I heard they got updated or something

[late sapphire]

Ok you could have just said it's ass

[late sapphire]

Neat but i'm currently in my evil arc so i'm just disabling them

[jovial juniper]

🫡

[fallen spindle]

Following this logic, any educational kids show is ass no matter how good they are on what they are doing

[broken carbon]

sick and twisted….

[broken carbon]

he’s just gonna repeat himself again lol

[fallen spindle]

I know😔.

[late sapphire]

Veggie Tales had some raw storylines not gonna lie

[late sapphire]

Fixed, thanks

[fallen spindle]

I think brainrot is like the Warp irl

Because once you see Skibidi toilet you know its over

[late sapphire]

Maybe we should exterminatus georgia

[analog agate]

Idk. We has really stupid stuff when was a kid that we found hilarious too in the 90s-00s

[clear heath]

that's what brain rupture is
you're sending skibidi toilet episodes straight to their brain

[jovial juniper]

I grew up with YouTube poop
Skibidi got nothing on it

[fallen spindle]

Nah YouTube poop is real humor

[broken carbon]

no

no it is not

[nocturne dust]

It's too late for them, sibling. The Warp has influenced their mind.

[broken carbon]

i am not sibling

i am

fucked up

evil zealot

[nocturne dust]

Sorry, blunt sibling.

[fallen spindle]

It is.

I cant be THAT cooked

No

Nah its is

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/i-have-some-deeply-tragic-news-for-you-bad-news-not-a-good-news-joe-lo-truglio-detective-charles-boyle-gif-13251965

[fallen spindle]

WHY WOULDENT IT BE?

[nocturne dust]

Why wouldn't what be what?

[fallen spindle]

YOUTUBE POOP

IS HUMOR.

[broken carbon]

it’s slop

[fallen spindle]

IS FUNNY.

[broken carbon]

it’s slop equal to skibidi toilet

and MLG edits

[radiant frigate]

hello siblings what is happening in this channel

[young summit]

Heresy

[clear heath]

people succumbing to the warp

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/my-honest-reaction-gif-26521831

[young summit]

Mistress Brahms thought it would be funny to deactivate the Gellar Fields momentarily (it is not)

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/sols-rng-sol-rayleigh-crying-meme-broken-heart-cooked-gif-9094813680797219987

[fallen spindle]

Why cant i post images

[nocturne dust]

Grey name moment

[young summit]

The weight of your sin prevents you

[fallen spindle]

How do i stop being black

[broken carbon]

huh

[broken carbon]

you’ll get a role that lets u send images soon

just keep talking

[fallen spindle]

Chat is this W rizz

[broken carbon]

no

no it is not

[fallen spindle]

It IS.

[broken carbon]

no it’s not

[clear heath]

you will regret telling them this

[broken carbon]

i am not rizzing someone up on a 40k discord server

[fallen spindle]

Nah that gotta be atleast -100 aura

Level 0 gyatt

[broken carbon]

what the fuck are u saying

[fallen spindle]

Negative jawline

[mossy oyster]

do you like ultrakill ??!?!?!?!

😳

[broken carbon]

LOL

ultrakill dick rider sounds fire right about now🤤🤤🤤

i think that’s what he said at least

[mossy oyster]

that emoji

[broken carbon]

idk

[mossy oyster]

sin.

[broken carbon]

i just work here

[fallen spindle]

Are you the sigma because you mogg or you mogg because you are sigma?

Rizz?

[broken carbon]

ok nvm

[fallen spindle]

Kai cenat?

[young summit]

This is so cursed

[fallen spindle]

Ohio?

[fallen spindle]

It would be MAD funny If someone gave birth on the gc

[broken carbon]

i can’t

i’m gonna go now

[fallen spindle]

Goodbye my ohio based rizzler mogger!

[jovial juniper]

Now you're being crazy

[nocturne dust]

This guy belongs in zealot chat

[young summit]

Is this grounds for Inquisitorial Execution?

[nocturne dust]

Yes.

[late sapphire]

@fallen spindle What is your favourite blitz

[fallen spindle]

What.

[young summit]

This is honestly true

[late sapphire]

brain burst, smite, assail

pick 1

[young summit]

The chats have such different personalities

[fallen spindle]

Assault

I feel like Gojo touching my enemies

[young summit]

Vet chat is full of nerds who argue over 5% (conditional) damage increases

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-walter-hank-walter-screaming-walter-yelling-gif-26473309

[broken carbon]

not even

zealot chat would rip the shit out of him

[fallen spindle]

Once i have the powers of summoning the gooning gods you are all done.

[nocturne dust]

have you seen zealot chat

[broken carbon]

i am a zealot chat regular

i’m in it 90% of the time

[young summit]

Zealot chat right now

[nocturne dust]

lmao

[young summit]

Void's point proven lmao

[broken carbon]

when annoying people go into zealot chat they usually will tell them 2 shut up and/or block them

[radiant frigate]

i do not really go to zealot chat

i have nothing to discuss with the fanatics

[zinc phoenix]

ogryn is so boring

[radiant frigate]

or any other class chats

m1 (hold) (repeat)

peak ogryn

[young summit]

[zinc phoenix]

most of the gameplay is just standing where you cant be cucked by every gunner on the map

[fallen spindle]

Caried by interactions

[late sapphire]

You are implying all of zealot chat has all of zealot chat blocked?

[zinc phoenix]

seems right

[young summit]

I hope so

[clear heath]

yes it's true

[zinc phoenix]

every time ive looked in zealot chat its pretty batshit

[late sapphire]

i really appreciate the work kerfus put into the attack diagrams

[clear heath]

it's either gonna be dragon ball posts or furry rp

[tired estuary]

yea there's people in zealot chat who actually like dragonball sparking zero

its fucked up

[late sapphire]

so ogryn chat is now the only chat where people post huge diagrams and charts

[radiant frigate]

who did the what

[zinc phoenix]

which is funny because theyre all the same

"hold m1"

[late sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914161923334214/1299472603907358782/slab_shield.jpg?ex=671d53ab&is=671c022b&hm=c54511d422e244bbd9703b75231c0d263faca180b54cbb0a75640db1aeafacf0&

this stuff

[young summit]

Peak

Those are awesome

[radiant frigate]

oh that is actually peak

very nice

bravo

[zinc phoenix]

also all the ogryn weapons have shitty dodge

[young summit]

Skill issue

Dodge slide

[zinc phoenix]

not getting netted by something i can see miles away is a serious pain

[fallen spindle]

I wonder why.

[zinc phoenix]

yeah yeah theyre lardballs

[radiant frigate]

biggie bonks

[late sapphire]

It's really time consuming to make these too

[nocturne dust]

I wish I had huge charts and diagrams to post

I am indeed jealous

[late sapphire]

Get to work then

[fallen spindle]

What if...

Warhammer darktide was called Warhammer: Freakyride

[mossy oyster]

out brain rotted

[fallen spindle]

And it was the exact same game

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/no-nope-no-way-noo-absolutely-not-gif-20244171

[mossy oyster]

cant believe ive witnessed this

lmfao

[broken carbon]

literally

[broken carbon]

i mean

[fallen spindle]

It that silent hills on your pfp

[broken carbon]

can you blame me

[mossy oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/defeated-gif-21675332

[late sapphire]

I originally made charts for the pickaxes because people were confused - i'm gonna make some for psyker weapons at some point i swear maybe when fatshark releases a 5th class

I guess for now we have atlas' ugly ass venting shriek diagram

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1298225142689955901/boomba.png?ex=671cbe61&is=671b6ce1&hm=bd8a43edfc902b125388c294bcc03be7dce5ba4804231b1659c15c467412dec3&

[nocturne dust]

The shriek diagram is press F at 85% peril

[broken carbon]

gwround

[dusk void]

Reminds me of geometry class

[latent mauve]

This is peak

[dusk void]

But as an engineer, that is a pretty good diagram you have there (I give credit for whoever did this)

[late sapphire]

all credit goes to @lethal lagoon

#1 psyker artist

[clear heath]

so talented

[dusk void]

@lethal lagoon you are a genius

[lethal lagoon]

[analog agate]

I wasn’t really aware of the darktide youtubers until someone posted that E guys stuff. Darktides content creators… are pretty childish

[clear heath]

crazy there's people trying to clickbait the 10 people that still play this dying game

[flint pawn]

yeah I hate this lol

[fallen spindle]

Guess who has powers now guys

[flint pawn]

the only "melee" weapon that doesn't have reduced dodge in Ogryn's kit is the grenade gauntlet..

[clear heath]

weren't the ogryn knife dodges fine? it has been a while since i've used it

[flint pawn]

nope

[clear heath]

oh wtf

[flint pawn]

no I'm not using thrust bull butcher I was swapping stuff around

[nocturne dust]

big man should have big dodges

[flint pawn]

I say keep the shorter dodges but due to our size we should be able to push enemies back when we dodge into them

[nocturne dust]

That would work too. I think the beta I heard about where they ran faster than the other classes was cool.

[flint pawn]

the trapper trying to net you when you're surrounded, and that poxwalker on your flank blocking your dodge, nah fuck that shove his ass to the side

[nocturne dust]

Just give big man some real big differences

[late sapphire]

ogryn can already knock enemies down while charging, why not while dodging?

[nocturne dust]

I wish zealot could knockdown while charging

lol

[flint pawn]

I fiercely, fiercely, fiercely believe that Ogryn should be able to pick up a downed ally and carry them, so Ogryns would be the class that can pick up someone that's surrounded by like 6 flamers or tox/fire bombs, place them down behind cover, then revive them

[nocturne dust]

Even just 1 guy getting blown away by zealot charge would be funny

[late sapphire]

should be able to throw them like a vac capsule too

[nocturne dust]

Now now, Fatshark can't handle such absurd features

[flint pawn]

we should also be able to carry psykers on our back and only specifically psykers

[late sapphire]

ogryns should be able to carry ogryns

[flint pawn]

psykers still get to use their ranged weapons and blitz and can still take ranged damage if aimed at but the ogryn intercepts melee for them

[zinc phoenix]

someone had that incredible image from the training room

[late sapphire]

and you should be able to stack 4 of em on top of one another

[flint pawn]

I concur

Ogryn clown car

[late sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1292774246421889045/PsykersBuiltThepyramids.png?ex=671d5916&is=671c0796&hm=67108f5c2101a1cad514ba1940b353c7e5eb04e95855d91aa599fe86c41e3fd4&

[zinc phoenix]

yes

[late sapphire]

posted about 50 times by atlas within the last month

[zinc phoenix]

by far the best visualization

[nocturne dust]

The enemies get clown cars, why not us?

[nocturne dust]

is there like a psykh free cam mod or something?

[late sapphire]

Looks like it

[analog agate]

His blaze blast pic is hilarious

[zinc phoenix]

ok well now you have to show it

[ripe obsidian]

I use Smite a lot more on poxburster/hunting grounds Maelstrom than I ever realized I would.

[late sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1291979319219851347/BlazeTrauma801.png?ex=671d17c1&is=671bc641&hm=b079f569fb1274607a348670d773ad1b19102f623002a6fb25c73ad5de5eafc1&

this?

[analog agate]

Ya

[ornate hamlet]

real

[analog agate]

Off one blast. So much coverage

[flint pawn]

Counterpoint, absurd and beloved class deserves absurd and beloved features

[nocturne dust]

[flint pawn]

I'm also sad that Ogryn doesn't have any talents to aid with stamina but I guess it's fair

[late sapphire]

Tbh if ogryns were as powerful in game as in lore it'd be too op

[flint pawn]

as far as I'm aware Ogryn's the one that's like, the least "broken" rn so why not

base 300 HP ain't cutting it, give us base 500 so we can have 965 HP with maxed curios

[analog agate]

Ogryn is the “worst” class atm

Power creep on others

[ripe obsidian]

Ogryn just feels bad to play with the low mobility.

[nocturne dust]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/32

[late sapphire]

power creep i.e. didn't get dueling sword

[nocturne dust]

Hhhhmmmm, it's quite unupdated

[flint pawn]

I only respect Psykers with dueling sword now

The other two classes are fakers

[broken carbon]

funny but it’d kinda suck tbh, because knocking over the guy ur trying to attack is very counterproductive

[analog agate]

Low mobility. Slow attacks cause their synergy is heavy attacks. Meh weapons to deal with strings of specials

[abstract totem]

I think we should replace dueling swords with toothpicks that’ll probably balance it well enough

[late sapphire]

ds zealot is so fun though

[flint pawn]

as long as they aren't loner

[broken carbon]

and also broken as shit

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah. It's not fun.

[late sapphire]

i play fotf piety ds zealot

its so good

[nocturne dust]

Hot take but I have 0 trouble weakspotting a guy on the ground

[abstract totem]

More effort I suppose is the point

[spice veldt]

becomes a trouble if you knock them into a horde

or behind other enemies

[nocturne dust]

I'd play that if it didn't break my fingers with all the clicking

[clear heath]

lower your settings for corpses and it makes knocked down enemies less annoying

[flint pawn]

so what're we hoping for in today's Darktide in terms of balancing

[spice veldt]

oh rest assured, i have ragdolls set to 1

[clear heath]

i wish 0 didn't crash the game

[spice veldt]

very tragic

[late sapphire]

autoclicker :)

[clear heath]

i would like to kill something out of existence

[nocturne dust]

I need to mess with my settings, I have keepswinging but it feels bad to use

[late sapphire]

i want my fullscreen setting back so my laptop doesnt overheat and explode

[nocturne dust]

It also doesn't work for spamming heavies which is big sad

[flint pawn]

will this garbage ever be made good

[ornate hamlet]

I set keep swinging to the side mouse button

I think ogryn has a node to get DR scaled to bleeding enemies, doesn't he?

[late sapphire]

i have an autoclicker on my logitech gamer mouse i stole from someone

[flint pawn]

this is true, but there is a serious problem with this

[late sapphire]

set to 'push middle mouse button right'

[flint pawn]

or rather, several problems

[abstract totem]

Well I wasn’t lying time to chain axe psyker time o7

[late sapphire]

it sucks

[flint pawn]

First problem, the bleeding lasts for like 6 ticks of time, or like 3 seconds

Second problem, it does a total of 100 something damage to a poxwalker and sends them flying everywhere, when you could've just charged into a wall and cleared them faster using the attack speed buff

Ogryn's not exactly having horde clear problems as of today

[haughty star]

Yeah but crowd controll is kinda the psykers schtick

[flint pawn]

yeah, the staves and venting are great for that

They're both good at crowd control and I think that's fine

[haughty star]

Ogryn is made to take alot of damage and deal decent damage i feel like. It plays into tank role at a fairly balanced point. One of the easiest classes to play up to heresy and requires a ton of skill to play at higher levels

It don't crowd control like psyker do tho and that's fine

[flint pawn]

it doesn't need to

it controls in its own way

it cleaves through half the horde, it staggers them a ton, they have No Pushover, they have the charge, they can force everything to only focus them

if every smite psyker was instead a taunt ogryn, I think Darktide would be a better game to play

[spice veldt]

seems straightforward enough that charging into a horde may not be the optimal choice

you do have the choice as the player to not do it

or to do it, if you want to

[flint pawn]

yeah

sometimes you might need to, like in certain mixed hordes

ragers or whatever are there, you're out of toughness

charge through them use the 10% toughness on hit enemy

[haughty star]

Nah smite psykers have their place.

[flint pawn]

yes, they have a place in the hall of infamy

[haughty star]

Its a cool effect and super powerful when used correctly

Pairs up better with surge than any other blitz as well imo

[flint pawn]

I don't think I've played with a single Smite Psyker that didn't down at least once in the match so far

[late sapphire]

Played with an actually smart smiker today

[flint pawn]

what game are you playing.

[late sapphire]

Actually smited while i ressed someone

[haughty star]

Downs happen man. It's darktide. Game hard

[late sapphire]

Genuinely shocked me

[haughty star]

I see what you did there

[flint pawn]

The only smite Psyker I trust is my partner and the only time he even uses it is to let me revive people or to stun bulwarks

which is a good thing for Smite

That is an incredibly powerful tool to have that I do genuinely like about it

I just don't like the everything else of it

also trauma staff does that pretty well too so rip

[late sapphire]

In the same match we did also have a zealot completely lose his cool over smikers and aggro + dc on two separate demonhosts

[haughty star]

Smite is probably the most powerful blitz in the game lol and that would be even if it didn't stun

Its just not incredibly riveting gameplay after 10 or 300 matches with it

[flint pawn]

uh

if it didn't stun I don't think there'd be a reason to even take it

[haughty star]

Shows how much you don't know tbh

[flint pawn]

now you're killing things in like 10 minutes and they're still able to hit you

just dodge is a valid counter argument but also why

[flint pawn]

?

[nocturne dust]

no, it definitely relies on the stun

[ornate hamlet]

EP smite

https://tenor.com/view/spit-it-out-spit-disgusting-gif-16413711

[flint pawn]

yeah like what lmao

Imagine smiting a horde but they're still able to walk at you and smack you and your team

[nocturne dust]

The damage is neat but you could just take purgatus without stun, lol

[flint pawn]

or bulwarks

or crushers

or anything else

[haughty star]

The synergy between smite and creeping flames and ep and pc is far more powerful than burgatus lol

[late sapphire]

smite in nurg blessing matches

[nocturne dust]

Well, yes, but no without the stun.

[flint pawn]

me watching the one smiker in auric smiting a monstrosity

[nocturne dust]

The stun is the most important aspect of that, otherwise purgatus wins handily in the damage department with uncanny soulblaze shenanigans

[flint pawn]

and then there's soulblaze trauma

which kills things way faster and also can stun just about everything smite can stun too

sorry not stun

stagger

[haughty star]

Soul blaze does not kill like ep smite does when used correctly lol

[flint pawn]

close enough

[nocturne dust]

hard knockdown

[flint pawn]

😭

[nocturne dust]

Soulblaze is a lot of EP smite, and shriek only has 6 stacks, Purg gets 16. Btw, soulblaze scales exponentially.

[flint pawn]

if I brought smite to my 1m damage run I would've done like 300k lmao

[haughty star]

Yes because you're bad at smite

[flint pawn]

how the hell is it possible to be "good" at smite

you take EP

you smite stuff

you shriek to get soulblaze damage when possible

[nocturne dust]

no, you're bad at purgatus

[flint pawn]

and then you try to actually be good with it for your team

[haughty star]

I can literally manufacture 800k runs consistently with ep smite

[flint pawn]

let people revive their team using the stun time

let people hit those clusters of bulwarks using it

[nocturne dust]

Lmao, alright, I can literally do the same with any staff if you wanna compare scoreboard sizes.

[flint pawn]

but that match I had 2 like really good zealots

if I had smite they would probably both have had 1m each

[haughty star]

Big doubt

[nocturne dust]

I will go grab a scoreboard rn Take me like ten to twenty minutes tho

[haughty star]

I'm just saying dude doesn't know shit when he says smite doesn't do meaningful damage lmfao a proper smiker is pretty much s tier

[flint pawn]

I mean it CAN do meaningful damage

when given the time

[nocturne dust]

Sure, but the stun is an important part of that

[haughty star]

That's not even the case dude lol

[haughty star]

That's fine lol

[nocturne dust]

without the stun, it's a very dangerous playstyle

[haughty star]

My original point is dude is a idiot for thinking smite is only useful as a stun mechanic

[flint pawn]

well because frankly, it is

if I want to do damage with a side of control, I'm taking trauma

[haughty star]

I mean it's not, you're just bad at it lol

[nocturne dust]

I mean, I agree but also it kinda is a stun mechanic outside this one specific interaction with EP

[analog agate]

See the reddit thread on smite? Ugh

[nocturne dust]

so I don't fault people for not realizing

[haughty star]

Some of the best people in this game don't like smite not because it's weak but because it's so brokenly overpowered

[flint pawn]

there's a reddit thread?

gimme link

[analog agate]

It is same old same old. I will try and educate. Then I ALWAYS get some dude saying smite is great with EP even if you take bubble

Every time

[clear heath]

i am a bubble hater

lame as hell

[analog agate]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/s/pNTyeapZua

[haughty star]

I don't mind bubble but am firm believer that it's best reserved for bb and guns

[flint pawn]

this should be good

[clear heath]

bubble users are cowards
just dodge the bullets

[nocturne dust]

Bubble is good and makes runs way smoother if you're in a competent team.

[flint pawn]

what a reaction lol

[nocturne dust]

But, y'know, competency...

[fossil lagoon]

he's right + speaking truth to power here

[flint pawn]

like I hate smite too but dang Zek needs to chill lol

[haughty star]

You literally generally speaking should not be using bubble as protection from bullets lmao

[clear heath]

i would much rather people just screamed the shooters to death than to rely on bubble

[haughty star]

That's not really what it's for lol

[nocturne dust]

Actually it works perfectly fine for that, it still lasts quite a bit of time even under gunner fire. Not as long as I'd like, but it works.

[analog agate]

I tried explaining why smite is hated on. Bad players with smite suck and are annoying. Good players with smite make the game boring

[hollow current]

smite talk? someone ping dorn.

[analog agate]

And then you always get someone butt hurt cause they love being a bubble smiter and say it is great

[flint pawn]

yeah

[clear heath]

if your team is competant and progressing at a good pace, you spend very little time in them anyways

[rapid lodge]

im usually toping scoreboard with my smite build but people just use it as CC without stacked ES and zero soulblaze

[haughty star]

It works best for protection against specialists, proccing and providing coverage for brain burst, and most importantly for clowning on the bonbon

[rapid lodge]

not surprised people hate it

[clear heath]

shreik is just better

[haughty star]

People who think shriek is the only way to play are just bad at peril management

[clear heath]

shreik is for damage, not for peril

[flint pawn]

yeah like what

[haughty star]

Yes we know. Lol

[hollow current]

shriek is for those who want an excuse for why they can't edge peril properly.

[rapid lodge]

this

[haughty star]

Shhhh, you literally think one of the most op tools in the game is weak lol

[nocturne dust]

Yes, but it makes it smoother by speeding up those 'director wants to kill you' moments where it spawns two dozen snipers and gunners on the other end of a very long area with a couple bombers and infinite flamers

[clear heath]

i don't see why you wouldn't just shriek to death the enemies that bubble would've helped with, aside from beast of nurgle i guess

[flint pawn]

no thanks

I use shriek for the soulblaze damage lol

[haughty star]

I just find that bubble complements a bb build really well

[slate oasis]

I like shriek, bubble and scier's. all are fun at different times

[nocturne dust]

They can be out of range, and bubble lasts longer than shriek

[haughty star]

Yeah no shit captain obvious

It was a joke lmao

[nocturne dust]

You shriek, you kill some guys but go on cooldown while a dozen more spawn:

Thanks director

[clear heath]

psykinetic aura

[nocturne dust]

You still have to kill some more

[haughty star]

Someone who is truly good with bubble is deffo a good part of a team

[slate oasis]

if your team is 100% perfect at all times then bubble doesn't have as much value, but most players are not 100% perfect.
I always use it on my voidstrike build and it gets a lot of value throughout missions

[haughty star]

And bubble and bb can be fun after ages of meta dick riding

[nocturne dust]

Like, Psykinetics is great but it doesn't make the cooldown instant and you do have to kill quite a bit of elites/specials to get full cooldown

and when the enemies come in a long congo disaster line, bubble makes it smoother than more dps in a competent team, because the team already has plenty of dps

[haughty star]

You last two are silly clearly everything always goes exactly as you mean it to in auric

If not you're obviously bad

[nocturne dust]

I meant to be swallowed by bonbon and then dragged to awaken the daemonhost

[clear heath]

most of what kills you in auric is just running out of space
killing the crowd with shriek lets you dodge stuff more easily cause you can move around more

[haughty star]

Even with bubble I never get that overcrowded on psyker wtf

[nocturne dust]

I dunno, I never have space issues. It's more "everything trying to kill me all at once" issues

[clear heath]

what kills you that bubble saves you from?

[haughty star]

Bon bon, trappers, literally any specialist

[nocturne dust]

except hounds

[haughty star]

Mixed hordes with its 10 percent per second toughness regen

[ripe obsidian]

Mostly ranged Maelstrom.

[clear heath]

I find the ranged one to be the easiest imo

[ripe obsidian]

Depends on the team.

If your team decides to die a lot, bubble is your friend

[flint pawn]

same

The first one I did I just took 0 damage the whole game lol

[nocturne dust]

I find melee to be easiest

[ripe obsidian]

It depends a lot on the team. If your team is covering threats, sure. If they aren't, and you have to handle everything, not so much

[flint pawn]

Melee is easy but also a lot more fun than normal matches I think

[clear heath]

it was my best attenpt when i tried a auric mael solo
made it like 80% of a mission before a plague ogryn + trapper fucked me up

i should try that again with the lmb build

[twin halo]

hey, would you say soulblaze is the best non-gun psyker build at the moment? Just made a psyker character, looking to catch up on the meta

[clear heath]

maybe i'll win this time with how cheesy it is

[slate oasis]

gunners scattered at different angles and elevations typically. also protects your team from trappers, flamers and grenades during chaotic moments

[haughty star]

Fun thing about melee is rubbing it in the other classes faces

[analog agate]

Expand. What soulblaze weapons/tree are you using

[haughty star]

And bon can never vomit on you meaning it can't eat you

[analog agate]

Or are you asking for us to give you one?

[green musk]

im ready to start on my lightning witch build, anyone got a good one?

[twin halo]

I really like the idea of a force sword/some kind of staff kind of build, ideally somewhat self sufficient for solo q

[twin halo]

I would be grateful if you could suggest some builds

[nocturne dust]

no ER?

[ripe obsidian]

I do not think I would have won this ranged-only without bubble. There was just too much stuff coming at me, and I am not good enough to solo Maelstrom

[analog agate]

https://youtu.be/V1QlK0BqYtw?si=4pFdc2nbaSY-URxJ

[green musk]

curious on what void cooks with for a lightning witch

[haughty star]

With surge and illisi or shock maul if you want full electric fever

[analog agate]

He also has an inferno build as well

[flint pawn]

okay yeah this is a team where bubble is needed lol

[haughty star]

There's one point open

[nocturne dust]

I don't really use smite, but I have an electrokinetic build

[nocturne dust]

but it has the useless POTS node instead of ER

[twin halo]

Thank you! ❤️

[nocturne dust]

just take off POTS and use ER

[haughty star]

I don't like ER

[green musk]

i wish i could take off POTS
(few will get this)

[nocturne dust]

[haughty star]

Takes too long to spool up peril

I live to die

[nocturne dust]

I only kinda see that on purgatus

Any other staff I find generates plenty of peril

[haughty star]

Nah i need that shit like yesterday

Surge is weak asf when it's not fully spoiled up

[nocturne dust]

but it's enough peril to vent off cooldown

especially surge, lmao, it wants ER the most

[haughty star]

Spooled*

[green musk]

whats ER?

[nocturne dust]

empyric resolve

[haughty star]

Nah trauma wants er

[nocturne dust]

Trauma too

but ER works on every staff. I use it on every staff. It's just neat.

[green musk]

i dont see that

[ripe obsidian]

Does this video actually have the build in it?

[nocturne dust]

bottom left

[clear heath]

on surge i'm kinda on the fence about ER

[green musk]

ah, small blue

[nocturne dust]

ER is actually super important to Electro's damage output because of the peril generation

[haughty star]

Not worth it imo the surge needs to be spooled up fast as possible and doesn't generate enough dps to capitalize off of souldrinker for sustainment

[green musk]

so whats the playstyle with this, just shock the shit out of things?

[clear heath]

I've used both with and without
It's different but i don't think i'm doing much better or worse either way

[nocturne dust]

like, it's the staff that needs ER the most, and absolutely falls behind without it

[haughty star]

Yupp. One point open so you can grab er if you like

[analog agate]

Agent has the build at the beginning of all his vids

[nocturne dust]

but, y'know, my expertise and advice is for auric where you have to spam every attack like a guy on crack

[flint pawn]

ranger

[green musk]

i probably will. less peril the better

[analog agate]

Well motherfer

I chose the one he doesn’t lmao

[nocturne dust]

I recommend swapping PoTs with ER

PoTs is useless

[haughty star]

Psyker lives off of peril and shedding it

[haughty star]

Lol you're not objectively right

Subjectively maybe

[nocturne dust]

only reason to take PoTS is a severe dislike of ER

[nocturne dust]

It's bugged

Doesn't work

[haughty star]

Because er is a kneecap

[flint pawn]

I meant the "ranger" on the right lmao

[green musk]

okay

[haughty star]

And much better people than you or I have brought this up too in the past

[nocturne dust]

It really isn't. I mean, sure, it has a negative and it's fair if you dislike that.

[green musk]

yeah, but thats what kills me the most as psyker

everything else going on at once, i lose track of stuff and blow myself up

[nocturne dust]

Yes, and they all go for ER. I don't know a single psyker not in on ER for staff builds, excluding purg.

[clear heath]

stopping yourself from blowing up shouldn't be your motivation for taking it

[analog agate]

This is the tree. Electro staff with flurry/nexus and flak/maniac OR elite. Illisi with slaughterer/your choice and flak/maniac

[haughty star]

The ones that are taking er are literally building stunted surges with 40 wr because surge needs the peril lol

[green musk]

as for weapons, hows these (for now) and what perks should i got for

[nocturne dust]

No? No.

Wtf you on. Warp res is the dump, sure, but that's only purg people do that.

[twin halo]

Thank you, really appreciate that!

[nocturne dust]

Well, good meta players do that, I should say. I'm sure bad and preferences exist.

[green musk]

and last thing, the staff. do you guys left click or charge rights mostly?

[haughty star]

Lol charge rights

[nocturne dust]

Charge right. Left click is a separate build.

[green musk]

noted

[clear heath]

if you left click, everyone dies of cringe

[nocturne dust]

I left click sometimes to pop lone shooters

but that's about it

[haughty star]

Just be aware that er will take a literal ton of toughness recovery out of the build. There is one point open for a reason tho so you don't have to change anything to grab it.

[flint pawn]

I left click when I forget I have brain rupture

[clear heath]

i should clarify, left clicking sometimes to snipe things on a right click build is good.
If you do a left click only build, it's kinda broken rn and a lot of people are mad about it

[green musk]

staff perks?

[flint pawn]

Isn't it because people are macroing it or smth

[haughty star]

What's broken about it? Like good or bad?

[twin halo]

would you ever take bubble in that build?

[haughty star]

Been thinking about doing a left click build

[ripe obsidian]

I do not use ER for voidstrike

[clear heath]

people hate it in general but yes the macro people are the worst

[nocturne dust]

That's weird, voidstrike generates plenty of peril

[analog agate]

Bubble would mean no soulblaze. You can take bubble if you want though

[green musk]

what staff perks do i need?

[nocturne dust]

plus if you use scrier's it helps

[haughty star]

Flurry and nexus

Flakiak

[twin halo]

oh nvm, didn't think of that, mb

[ripe obsidian]

I also use Shriek, so not many spare points

[green musk]

so im on the right direction?

[clear heath]

lmb spam is a bit too strong even without the macro but having a macro user on the team actually feels dirty

[haughty star]

Yeah kinda

[analog agate]

If you want to use bubble try an inferno staff (soul blaze).

[formal harness]

No need to macro it

[nocturne dust]

Ah, are you going DD/Shriek? I can see that

[formal harness]

bind m1 to primary attack and m2 to reload

spam both at the same time

it will be faster than a macro lol

[green musk]

also, am i using the blitz, or the staff. im still very confused on how to play psyker

[formal harness]

it will fuck up your fingers if you play with it a lot tho

[haughty star]

Surge benefits pretty heavily from the elite node but yeah pretty much same tree as mine lol

[nocturne dust]

oof, yeah. I wouldn't do that kind of tree, but it makes some sense.

[ripe obsidian]

It works well for me

[haughty star]

Blitz for clusterfucks, staff for specialists and elites, sword for general hording

[analog agate]

Thats not true if you are talking about electro lmb. It is still slower than a macro. And that working is peripheral dependent

[green musk]

guessing a clusterfuck would be like 15 ragers?

[haughty star]

Pretty much yeah

[green musk]

that happened last night

fucked me up

[ripe obsidian]

I could drop Warp Splitting and get ER, but I really like Warp Splitting

[green musk]

i was on zealot tho

[haughty star]

Smite em till you full on peril then yell at em to light em on fire with your ca

Then mop em up with surge or sword

[green musk]

yeah, that -50% with shreik will be very helpful

[nocturne dust]

Warp splitting is better, yeah

[haughty star]

Its not about the peril it's about the flames from shriek

[formal harness]

that's fair if you mixmaxxed your macro. I can click like 20 something times per second so it's no problem for me

[haughty star]

The peril is just a bonus

[formal harness]

and you don't have to use anything except the in game binds, so people can't call you a cheater

win win honestly

[green musk]

ooooo

fire

[analog agate]

I mean. If you are going through the trouble of creating a macro… you might as well make it right haha

[clear heath]

people will still think ur cringe

[ripe obsidian]

I mean, I'm not gonna pretend my build is optimal. I'm sure a better Psyker with SG (or otherwise) would outperform me

[formal harness]

people think smite is cringe, zealot stealth is cringe, plasma rifle is cringe

[haughty star]

Be at at least 83 percent peril for max soul blaze

[formal harness]

i just don't give a fuck about what people think

[green musk]

i think imma do uprising for rn to lvl my weapons more, unless someone wants to carry my underleveled ass

[haughty star]

I can do it in about an hour lol

[formal harness]

as long as you aren't straight up cheating everything is fair game

[haughty star]

My disc is in my profile

[green musk]

ill def still be on then, ill be down

[near gale]

Question: How is Wildfire when you are using the Purgatus staff?

[clear heath]

kinda mid imo but it's still just 1 point for more damage so i still take it

[nocturne dust]

good

[near gale]

I'm kind of torn between that and souldrinker, atm

[haughty star]

Souldrinker always lol imo

[clear heath]

can't remember what my tree looks like but i think i have both

[haughty star]

Plus nothing else makes sense to grab pc with

Well I guess quietide

But still

[nocturne dust]

Souldrinker never

[haughty star]

Soul drinker is the shit

Life for death

[nocturne dust]

you're thinking of Soulstealer

[haughty star]

Ohh

Which ones souldrinker?

[ripe obsidian]

Crit and toughness on soulblaze kill

[clear heath]

wait ur right

[analog agate]

There was a long convo yesterday on it here. If you want search AgentChaos talking about it (there were others but I can’t remember who they were). It is good because it gets your stacks a head start

[clear heath]

nah souldrinker sucks bro

too many points to reach it

[near gale]

I mean I'm already using the 10% attack speed, atm

[haughty star]

Gross

Kill it

Kill it with fire

[near gale]

On it.

Meh... I kinda want to put the surge staff skin on the purgatus, instead of the voidstrike one >.>

[haughty star]

I got that kinetic something one a month or two ago before they had the ds skin

[near gale]

Is creeping flames still worth taking when you're using the purgatus staff? I mean yeah it's 1-6 soulblaze stacks... but... I can just purgatus the horde instead... :/

Tho, it is good for when I can't purgatus them I guess

[clear heath]

it goes past stack cap when you shriek them

[ripe obsidian]

And stacks soulblaze quickly

[clear heath]

so like if somethings at 15 stacks, you can scream for 21

[near gale]

Ooo, that's good to know

[haughty star]

Yeah it spools them up to 4 as a baseline kinda

[near gale]

I was planning on taking it, but, I wanted to ask for sure

[ripe obsidian]

Instant 6 stacks is great with the exponential damage curve

[green musk]

okay, im getting the hang of it

[haughty star]

Yeah it's a really good build to start your psykwr adventure in

[near gale]

So, uh, what blessings do I want on the purgatus?

[green musk]

the blitz is amazing

[haughty star]

Run n gun and the bash one

[near gale]

I tried putting t4 penetrating flames on it... but it still did almost nothing to crushers lol

[ripe obsidian]

Nexus/Blaze Away

[nocturne dust]

yep, lol

[ripe obsidian]

Oops, wrong reply

[near gale]

I might as well use my deimos, with how much it did to crushers lol

[haughty star]

Flames do nothing to crushers

Basically

[nocturne dust]

Creeping flames is great with purg

[near gale]

What about the perks for the purgatus?

[nocturne dust]

flak + [preference]

[haughty star]

Dueling sword or deimos are mandatory

[haughty star]

Isn't it flak and something weird like pw?

For dogs or some shit

[nocturne dust]

no?

[near gale]

This is what I have currently, since I don't have t4 for nexus or blaze away yet

[ripe obsidian]

Looks fine to me

[near gale]

I was a bit hasty and used my 1 t4 point on penetrating flames

[nocturne dust]

dogs get stunned by even RMB, so definitely not

You may be thinking of combat axe which does have a weird perk if you don't hit a breakpoint for horde

[ripe obsidian]

@nocturne dust What is your voidstrike build, since mine offends your sensibilities?

[fossil lagoon]

take 5% crit chance

[nocturne dust]

The SG or the shriek one? I have two

[fossil lagoon]

more crits, more stacks

[ripe obsidian]

Both?

[nocturne dust]

Unyielding isn't bad for ogryns

[near gale]

Honestly I was thinking more for monsters, but, bulwarks and reapers are good to melt as well

[ripe obsidian]

Crit is fine, unyielding is fine, maniac is fine

[near gale]

Does the purgatus work like the flamer on zealot, against bulwarks? where it works through the shield

[nocturne dust]

Generally, for monsters you stack soulblaze and then switch to your uncanny sword (which soulblaze then gets the perks of)

so you would put unyielding on your sword

to get the benefits

[fossil lagoon]

ye it stacks through their shield

[near gale]

Well... I was kind of waiting for t4 perks to be available for my force sword before I changed maniac off of my deimos

[haughty star]

Slaughterer isn't amazing for deimos

I like elitist cuz the stack falloff

[nocturne dust]

Scrier's Voidstrike with surge/nexus and crit chance/flak/maniac

[near gale]

I mean otherwise I have exorcist, precog, and deflector for my t4 force sword blessings

[haughty star]

Oh god you really like er to pick it over pc

[green musk]

yeah, i need some sort of guide on how to play psyker with some tips, cause i just suck at it

[near gale]

And in all honesty if I switch off slaughterer I am more interested in exorcist or deflector

[nocturne dust]

PC isn't that great on voidstrike imo, especially without wildfire

[haughty star]

I'll run ya through playing it in like 40 minutes

[nocturne dust]

The goal is to kill everything with balls, you do indeed kill everything with balls

[green musk]

its still mostly the peril killing me

[near gale]

I already know how to deal with hordes with my force sword, since I used to use the deimos in the past heh