#psyker-class

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split lance
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lol

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and hamstring

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and quad

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and a

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abs

nocturne dust
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Feels weird to leave for a week and then return to some of the best matches I've ever had.

split lance
nocturne dust
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Idk, you'd probably be better than some of the pubbers in my matches KEKW_ogryn

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even while trying to throw

split lance
heavy bane
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oh damn looks nice, what inspired you to get this ?

plucky flax
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I wanted a native American theme

radiant frigate
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๐Ÿค 

fiery wigeon
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america has its issues but the wilder areas never dissapoint

radiant frigate
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every place has issues

nocturne dust
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Nonsense, Mars is perfect. Humans have never been.

radiant frigate
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every place on this local planet has issues*

slate oasis
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there should be an option to just sit on the edge of the train and crack open a beer with your teammates when you join a rolling steel that literally can't be won

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actually let the enemies join too. tox flamer sounds like she needs a drink based on that voice

upper sun
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mourningstar needs a bar

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fuck it just make darktide an MMO

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give us rooms and useless roleplay docket sinks

slate oasis
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a little bar like deep rock galactic would be amazing tbh

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I dgaf about it going against lore or aesthetic it'd be fun

upper sun
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nah people drink in 40k

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i doubt GW would be pissed

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would be nice to buy the person who carried you a drink after the game

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or pour one out for the people that didnt make extraction KEKW_ogryn

slate oasis
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I'd love that. also needs a servitor jukebox

heavy bane
slate oasis
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I usually get put in the same instance as friends after doing a mission together. usually

quartz barn
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Ye its just on the initial load that you'll be apart

heavy bane
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I play missions with friends and never end up in the same thing weird

slate oasis
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weird. it only sometimes doesn't happen for me for whatever reason

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like last time I played with a couple friends they were both in the same instance after each mission but the game decided not to put me in it

radiant frigate
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i occasionally get put into the same instance as the rest of the strike team after a mission

vestal fulcrum
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guess how many people have left at middle event on Enclavus Baross whatthefuck_heresy

heavy bane
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why are there 4 extra blessing points for Electro staff is there a missing blessing or smth

vestal fulcrum
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Because it's bugged - Surge and Focused Channeling used to have 1 tier each only, so if you spend points in them shortly after the U&L update rolled out, you were left with spare points

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it's not been alleviated yet

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... might not be alleviated ever, actually

summer prairie
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is that the official explanation, seems unlikely

vestal fulcrum
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it's not official, it's my speculation

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but it has holes in it, I don't cling to it very closely

summer prairie
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based on the frequency of reports I don't think all of them happened to log on right after the update went live

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I think their backend just had an additional blessing available and the calculation was thus off

vestal fulcrum
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... maybe Electrokinetic was supposed to have one more blessing added to it, but it was revoked/not fully implemented?

summer prairie
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yes there's code for it

heavy bane
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I mean I'm just super annoyed at the notification thing in mastery

vestal fulcrum
summer prairie
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+1 jump targets (only one level right now)

vestal fulcrum
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that's fairly ass

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And with how Smite currently is, I can't say I'm surprised it's not in the game right now whatthefuck_heresy

late sapphire
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Another 200 damage or so jump would suck ass though yeah

quartz barn
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Also depends on the effect per tier

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Because if that 1 jump is for t1, imagine if t4 gave 4 jumps

plucky flax
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That'd be so strong.

floral olive
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Hi I'm testing empyric shock with purgatus and it looks like it's working in psyk but I thought I might still ask here.
Is it basically a free +30% dmg to enemies when you spam light attacks ?

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It looks pretty strong as personnally I use light attacks quite a lot with purg/inferno

wind spruce
floral olive
summer prairie
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it didn't work with the dot at least last time I checked

floral olive
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I thought it worked but the dmg gain was simply because of my blessings

wind spruce
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I wonder if the warp damage from MM affects soulblazs

wind spruce
floral olive
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brain rup with 0 light = 1800
with 5 lights = 19xx
that's not the 30% I thought it would be

wind spruce
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Some of the damage calcs are so cooked

floral olive
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the brain burst auto cast when blaze away is stacked though

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so nice lol

floral olive
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Yup, doesn't work

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I'm mad

summer prairie
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the talent checks for damage type force_staff_single_target

floral olive
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yeah so every staff except purg lmao

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other question while I'm at it, is wildfire worth using on purg ?
On the one hand it loooks like yes because you apply lots of soulblaze and that helps propagating
On the other, I'm not sure how they stack or the caps are shared

upper sun
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theres one dude losing his shit over it

vestal fulcrum
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I generally dislike Smite as a blitz, with how it functions in comparison to Assail and BR

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and how it impacts the flow of the game

broken carbon
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smite should be replaced with a cooldown molten beam

upper sun
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what if

broken carbon
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or an alt for venting shriek

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i just want my melta

upper sun
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we switch locations between assail and BB

vestal fulcrum
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Smite should be WITNESS YOUR DOOM!!! shout blitz from DoW Psyker whatthefuck_heresy

upper sun
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err

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i mean put BB in the middle

vestal fulcrum
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followed by cool chain lighting

upper sun
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and put assail where BB is

nocturne dust
upper sun
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and put smite in the fuck off corner and just forget about it

vestal fulcrum
upper sun
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๐Ÿ˜ 

nocturne dust
broken carbon
upper sun
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give me assail with fat cdr

slate oasis
broken carbon
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venting shriek alt should either be a molten beam or a brain burst

upper sun
broken carbon
vestal fulcrum
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Assail + Psykinetic Aura mona

upper sun
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YES

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and BB with MM

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im so fkin hype

upper sun
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actually

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switch Malefic momentum with battle med

broken carbon
slate oasis
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it's 100% real ||I photoshopped it just like the force shovel||

nocturne dust
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Idk, charged strike makes more sense in the middle where it can be a part of meleeker

upper sun
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FORCE AXE

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NOW

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NOT TOMORROW

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TODAY

nocturne dust
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charged strike is useless now, sure, but Fatshark will buff it.... right?

upper sun
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nah

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we just got a rework

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we're not getting shit

slate oasis
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is any melee psyker in the world spending a point on charged strike though let's be honest

nocturne dust
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๐Ÿ˜ญ

nocturne dust
upper sun
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i see a zealot talent tree rework in the future, some new operations, new mission and maybe if we're good a docket shop rework

nocturne dust
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Like, if charged strike stunned anything you hit with the heavy, or did actual damage

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Meleeker would absolutely take it

vestal fulcrum
slate oasis
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I assumed it would be a single target stun when I first saw it

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that would actually make it decent

upper sun
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GIVE FATSHARK A YEAR WE WILL HAVE A NEW MISSION
GIVE FATSHARK 10 YEARS SMITE WILL BE A REAL BLITZ

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like ok MR house

nocturne dust
slate oasis
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30 years and we'll get a 5th class. I'm so hyped it's crazy

upper sun
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by the time we get a third class

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i wont have the reflixes to play the game

nocturne dust
upper sun
nocturne dust
upper sun
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im already losing it

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I dont have much time

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๐Ÿ˜ญ

nocturne dust
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Kinda insane that VT2 had exclusives for individual careers but Darktide devs complain about classes being individualistic

slate oasis
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wait really? class exclusive weapons help make them feel unique from each other though

nocturne dust
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I mean yes, and the devs stated as much

late sapphire
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smite should kill you instantly and ban you

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How about that huh

quartz barn
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Its because their database is shit

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I mean look at shaders

late sapphire
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Think about it it would be so kino

nocturne dust
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Keep it as ranged weapon, but no ranged attack thumbsup_ogryn

late sapphire
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Anyways the staff bash should at least do something

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Purg bash should ignite and surge bash should electrify

nocturne dust
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It does. I've killed lone chaff with it before. It takes a while.

nocturne dust
late sapphire
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So true

slate oasis
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is there any indicator for the scrier's gaze buff beyond the little buff icon and screen vignette?

nocturne dust
slate oasis
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yeah I figured as much

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I want a timer or meter or something right next to my crosshair, especially with warp unbound

nocturne dust
tepid python
slate oasis
summer prairie
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is there a low effort way to move/add your assail knife account next to your crosshair? Obviously not just dragging the whole hud element there

slate oasis
summer prairie
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right, just didn't have that enabled

onyx prism
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They'll never know what him 'em KEKW_ogryn

plucky flax
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Anyone playing grim dawn league s7? Pogryn

strong gulch
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@summer prairie Do you happen to know what thrust is called code wise or a keyword for it that can look up in the buff hud improvements mod?

summer prairie
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windup something probably

vestal fulcrum
strong gulch
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Thanks @summer prairie and @vestal fulcrum. I have a heading.

vestal fulcrum
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I should tweak my buffs settings come to think of it whatthefuck_heresy

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I still have important shit like EP on the bottom buff bar

strong gulch
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same lol.

strong gulch
summer prairie
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Kuli's blessing guide has all the blessing buff names

radiant frigate
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never knew that windup increases power, that's crazy

strong gulch
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I was trying to find thrust specifically for DS, and I found it. "weapon_trait_bespoke_combatsword_p3_windup_increases_power_parent"

radiant frigate
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it is a very bespoke combat sword to be fair

strong gulch
jovial juniper
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Emphasis on P3

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Kek

sacred crane
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They should let us psykers use the boltgun

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Just imagine

upper sun
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ehhhhhhh

sacred crane
hollow jolt
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Kai Bolters for pskyer UwU

upper sun
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its HEAVY

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and not elegant

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doesnt feel very psykery

hollow jolt
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chainsword is elegant

patent mango
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add bolter so perilous assault has 1 use

sacred crane
hollow jolt
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psycannons when?

upper sun
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they feel better on zealot and vet anyways

spice veldt
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boltguns are for the most unrefined

upper sun
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id rather get new staves

patent mango
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a bolt staff

hollow jolt
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a staff with a bolter at the end

patent mango
upper sun
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tfw i've been using bolter before the buffs and now im getting called a meta chaser ๐Ÿ˜ญ

hollow jolt
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meta chaser

upper sun
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๐Ÿ˜ญ

hollow jolt
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I remember seeing a video on the reddit where a guy ragequit because a Recon user was a "crutch"

upper sun
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i dont even play vet

hollow jolt
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Recon is a crutch, never thought I'd see the day

sacred crane
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Zero mobility for max damage

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Am i considered a meta chaser for using blaze trauma

jovial juniper
sacred crane
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With dclaw

patent mango
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im running illisi fanning revolver nowadays its fun

sacred crane
brazen rampart
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Seer conversations with ogryns are great.

echo root
thick spruce
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is this normal to have extra points left on masteries?

strong gulch
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ye ๐Ÿ˜ญ

crisp yacht
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Just surge staff afaik. Guessing they were going to give it another blessing then decided not to.

strong gulch
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Someone mentioned that there is a really old blessing from beta that some people have and that's why. I never saw it. I don't think I finished leveling my character before the game launched tho.

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@lethal lagoon Was it you who mentioned something about a surge blessing from beta?

lethal lagoon
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You remembered kinda correctly.

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I was doing my usual "Special beta item" bit.

strong gulch
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Oh you did a bit. I told my history with jokes. ๐Ÿ’€

lethal lagoon
strong gulch
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Oh, not a joke bit.

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also thanks

lethal lagoon
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I'm a little confused, just to be clear, I was lying.

strong gulch
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Confused together. โœจ

zinc phoenix
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i have learned to sense the silent crusher ๐Ÿ™‰

late sapphire
strong gulch
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@plucky flax Did your game chat ever get fixed?

plucky flax
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Yeah it was game server side.

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Wasn't from my end.

strong gulch
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Glad it's working now. thumbsup_ogryn

late sapphire
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The chat client is generally kind of shitty

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Wild how shitty chat is even a thing i thought we left that behind us long ago

strong gulch
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Love the "we didn't put you in an instance correctly so you don't get to chat" feature.

late sapphire
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That's an alright thing it's just a known issue so it really shouldn't be that hard to automatically check for it and reconnect even if it were unfixable in and of itself somehow

bronze cloak
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yo is voidblast staff viable for higher levels ? its my fav staff type but i dont wanna use it if it just trolling later on.

strong gulch
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It's quite strong.

fresh reef
bronze cloak
summer prairie
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blast

tired estuary
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p sure they're referring to the artist formerly known as trauma staff (voidBLAST) not voidstrike

bronze cloak
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not quite well versed in the meta rn but i just wanna pull my weight the more i play it

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i started out not so long ago

tired estuary
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and yeah trauma is v viable, really strong cc vs elites, please don't pop bursters near people with it or keep mashing it under the melee front line the entire game (Unless you want to be annoying)

strong gulch
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Meta for trauma / voidblast is flak + crit chance and blazing spirit + warp nexus.

bronze cloak
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aight thanks !

late sapphire
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all staves are viable

fresh reef
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Staves are too viable

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Play Deimos Laspistol Shriek chadgryn

upper sun
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voidstrike has shit crosshairs
surge is now a submachine gun
purge is aoe cancer
trauma is trauma

clear heath
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what's wrong with voidstrike crosshair?

fresh reef
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Trauma unironically is the most balanced of the staves rn

upper sun
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im too blind to see the dot

fresh reef
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Truly hilarious

clear heath
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what does it look like? maybe i changed my crosshair

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isn't it just the dot with the charge meters on the sides?

fresh reef
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Ez

bronze cloak
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i love how trauma feels

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very satisfying sounds

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and gimmicky aiming

fresh reef
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Everyone should play laspistol

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It's so much fun

bronze cloak
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so far the only staff i didnt really like is the electric one

late sapphire
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voidstrike crosshair is peak

bronze cloak
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but no idea whats the gameplan with it

late sapphire
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its so small i have way more space to fill up with random clutter myself

plucky flax
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You surge and you win.

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Either left click or right click.

clear heath
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is it not just the same crosshair as all the other staves?

upper sun
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ye

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but only voidstrike needs to be aimed

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you know the 3 days when they fucked up the crosshairs for staves?

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those were the 3 days i played voidstrike

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it was so comfy ๐Ÿ˜ญ

late sapphire
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just get the thingy

upper sun
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i cant ๐Ÿ˜ญ

late sapphire
upper sun
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i do have a custom crosshair program that works tho

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but im too lazy to start it everytime i wanna play

late sapphire
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i have a custom crosshair (red marker on my screen)

clear heath
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Just use the crosshair remap mod

late sapphire
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i think he might be a xbox gamepass peasant

upper sun
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nvidia streaming peasent

clear heath
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I don't even find the staff crosshair to be bad though
I use it for plasma because the charge meters actually work on plasma gun

late sapphire
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modless loser

upper sun
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mhmm

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so

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i finally bullied a friend into getting darktide

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anyone wanna play tomorrow so i can boost him?

clear heath
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so it's probably more visible for me

narrow herald
clear heath
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changing crosshair colour should probably just be part of the game at this point

strong gulch
upper sun
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thank u

patent mango
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tbh i want a beam staff

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but that can come after psyker gets more unique melees

clear heath
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i want more staves

clear heath
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soulblaze sword

patent mango
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i just want a 2 handed psyker melee

clear heath
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soulblaze knife

patent mango
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nooooo

clear heath
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with a warp punch as the special

patent mango
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by that point i'd rather just have warp knuckles

clear heath
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imagine it just launches a crusher

patent mango
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maybe if we get iron arm someday

clear heath
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warp fists would be cool

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my incomparable fists

patent mango
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new 4th melee career for psyker where you just punch people

left basin
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warples

ripe obsidian
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"My Beloved says, float like a butterfly, sting like a bee."

strong gulch
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BEEEEEES

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I saw the word bee and got excited.

frigid monolith
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can someone help me get the malleus monstronum penance?

jovial juniper
split lance
frigid monolith
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yeah

lethal lagoon
frigid monolith
upper sun
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lemme start the game

frigid monolith
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do I have to friend you on steam?

upper sun
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nah

lethal lagoon
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Clad is a professional, don't forget to give him a 5 star review and a tip.

upper sun
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you can use the code in my name in game

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mhmm

frigid monolith
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how to make a private game

upper sun
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ill handle that

lethal lagoon
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Look at that 5 star service

upper sun
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its part of the package

frigid monolith
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thx

ripe obsidian
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It's the burstiest build

frigid monolith
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ok

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sec

upper sun
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2652690328 this is my fatshark code you can invite me to a strike team by going escape social then find player

late sapphire
frigid monolith
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sent invite

late sapphire
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flashes white when fully charged if you release with perfect timing you punt a crusher straight through the nearest wall

frigid monolith
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how to launch a private game?

upper sun
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i can do it

brazen rampart
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Or malleus monstronum?

upper sun
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whats pick and mix?

frigid monolith
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5/5 services from clad

upper sun
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๐Ÿซก

fast coral
nocturne dust
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Lol, it is, but it's so easy to avoid.

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I still haven't blown myself up with Warp Unbound since the first time I discovered that bug. It's at least super consistent and super avoidable.

brazen rampart
upper sun
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ahhhh that one

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yeah both then tbh

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pretty much did psyker the week penances rolled out

radiant frigate
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that or melee force staff

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let us channel our inner monk..

upper sun
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bonk staves are cannon

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warp infused bonks are canon

radiant frigate
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simple as

clear heath
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they should really just add something to the bonk

patent mango
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force spear in ranged slot

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(its just elf javelin)

upper sun
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make it like ogryn gauntlet

radiant frigate
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can we return to just having X amount of base toughness instead of having to pick it in talents

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with all the murder talents we want there is little left for toughness nodes and i hate it

patent mango
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next update psykers will have 9 base toughness

radiant frigate
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very epic

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i may unironically become a zealot main again

patent mango
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still cant believe zealot got hecking ds

nocturne dust
clear heath
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give psyker thunder hammer

patent mango
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psyker with ogryn pickaxe

upper sun
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give zealot pickaxe too

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and shield

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yeah give zealot ogryn shield

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you know what? fuck it make shield block nets and fire

patent mango
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make it so the shield gets netted and you lose it forever

radiant frigate
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make it so ogryn has movesets other than heavy attacks

patent mango
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make it so ogryn has more than like 4 builds

upper sun
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shield is now a double shield

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lights are just extra blocking

upper sun
patent mango
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i got 2

upper sun
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i have 2(theyre one build but with 2 talents changed)

patent mango
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i either go pick ogryn or rumbler ogryn

jovial juniper
upper sun
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pick or shield both with kickback

hybrid osprey
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the perfect talent came to me in a dream, i wish we had gotten this instead of the lame "no down" psyker poof

clear heath
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is ogryn shield the only melee that's dual wielding?

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kinda wild there isn't more

patent mango
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wheres my melee variety fatshark...

jovial juniper
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Just shield

radiant frigate
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or perhaps the door shields

jovial juniper
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H1 H2 ad infinitum

patent mango
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only dual wep
only uses 1 of them anyways

radiant frigate
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weapon and shield
look inside
it's literally just shield bashes

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WHY IS THE MAUL THERE

clear heath
radiant frigate
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it is entirely decorative

clear heath
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too dumb to use two weapons

nocturne dust
upper sun
nocturne dust
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I use the maul to smack lone specials sometimes

late sapphire
jovial juniper
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Once I thought you could H1 to proc Skullcrusher then just spam lights

patent mango
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shield and flip shovel thumbsup_ogryn

nocturne dust
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shield and pickaxe

patent mango
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just no shield special then its flip shovel instead

nocturne dust
late sapphire
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let me dual wield pickaxes

late sapphire
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fuck all of this

nocturne dust
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I love the shield special

late sapphire
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I hate you so much void

patent mango
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i never used the shield special i'd have to stand still.......

nocturne dust
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Taking a crusher overhead is great

nocturne dust
late sapphire
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I hate shield special

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Me and all of my homies hate shield special

late sapphire
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Every time i see a shield ogryn all he does is plunk down the shield and go take a piss

nocturne dust
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Hate the player, not the weapon

late sapphire
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I think shield special would be cool if you could actually leave the shield there

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And swap to a ranged weapon and keep going

jovial juniper
radiant frigate
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while everyone else was down

late sapphire
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based

patent mango
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gamer ogryn

late sapphire
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real ogryn hours

radiant frigate
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i almost exploded from perils irl when i saw that

zinc phoenix
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To spam the bonk sound

late sapphire
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this is acceptable

clear heath
cosmic sigil
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Bonking makes the lift go faster

left hare
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what guns do gunkers use

upper sun
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ciag recon laspistol w/e you like

left hare
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is the ciag column or vrak

nocturne dust
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vraks now

prime elk
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Itโ€™s vrak now since fatshart decided itโ€™d be fun to confuse everyone

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And they renamed the old middle option to columnus because why the fuck not

late sapphire
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The mk5

upper sun
late sapphire
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laspistol mk 2 and recon uhhhh god knows

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bistol revo and dbarrel gunkers are moderately common too

patent mango
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fanning revolver is funny on psyker

left hare
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dumdum deathspitter or dumdum fire frenzy

upper sun
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up to you

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i dont think anyone can tell the difference

nocturne dust
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Fire Frenzy is worse generally

left hare
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flak + unyield or flak + crit

nocturne dust
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flak + [something], crit chance is eh on gunker since they already stack a bunch and have true aim. Unyielding, maniac. I don't recommend carapace, we don't have rending/brittleness like vet gets.

late sapphire
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unyielding is peak

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cara damage on gunker guns sucks hugely

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you need to dump an entire mag into the head of a crusher to kill it roughly

left hare
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sadge

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probably need ds4 or deimos then

late sapphire
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ds4 is great

left hare
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for psyker curio is triple tough?

late sapphire
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for gunker probably 3stam then double tough or double hp

hollow jolt
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Uncanny for guns when>

late sapphire
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if you are gunkering you will no doubt be meleeing and then the 3stam is very useful

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at least if you run a dueling sword

hollow jolt
#

I have ascended past the need for melee

#

and have unbound my melee and swap weapon key

late sapphire
hollow jolt
#

no I mag dump like any normal psyker

left hare
#

anyone have a gunker build i can just copy

#

for vraks iag

late sapphire
#

sending you perils

hollow jolt
#

ha jokes on you I use the 100% reliable Warp Unbound

patent mango
#

warp unbound hasnt exploded me yet

left hare
#

warp splitting and crack of bone what do they do?

late sapphire
#

they suck thats what they do

ripe obsidian
late sapphire
#

jk warp splitting is one of the best talents

left hare
#

the gunker builds in aethenum is not updated yet so i'm asking around

late sapphire
#

warp splitting works with assail

radiant frigate
#

crack of bone only useful with sg

left hare
#

i tried ep smite and i wanna fall asleep

radiant frigate
#

eepy smite does that yeah

left hare
#

so looking for other stuff

late sapphire
#

ep smite is a big sleeper yeah

#

i run sg voidstrike its very fun

ripe obsidian
late sapphire
#

voidstrike and illsi ๐Ÿ˜”

radiant frigate
late sapphire
#

i guess illsi sg works now with warp unbound

radiant frigate
#

but now i just suffer

late sapphire
#

used to be super fun to watch really good psykers sg and accidentally force push and die

ripe obsidian
#

What is SG?

late sapphire
#

scriers gaze

left hare
#

what is warp unbound actually doing?

ripe obsidian
#

Ahhhhh

left hare
#

just by reading i dont get it

jovial juniper
late sapphire
#

warp unbound, for 11.5s after scriers gaze ends you get infinite perils and cant explode

#

(it's really 10s and 1.5s is the default buffer time)

left hare
#

if i don't have it i'll blow up after scriers hits 100?

late sapphire
#

Nah

#

If you hit 100 scriers ends, then you have 1.5s of explode immunity, if you then generate any perils you boom

#

You can generally hit 100 perils without exploding

left hare
#

so it's a safety net?

late sapphire
#

Not exactly

#

Look at the Nexus blessing

#

Warp Rider, Warp Splitting talents

left hare
#

oh cleaving bullets lmao

late sapphire
#

During the 10s at 100% perils you get lingering bonuses from sg +20% damage +100% cleave +20% crit

left hare
#

does vraks get +1 cleave?

#

how does cleaving bullets work

late sapphire
#

Cleave iirc only works on guns that already cleave

#

That one recon lasgun

#

Revolvers

left hare
#

does vraks have cleave ๐Ÿค”

late sapphire
#

Autoguns i think it doesn't effect

left hare
#

i thought it was 1

#

1.15 or some shit

ripe obsidian
late sapphire
#

You can go in psykhanium and test it real easy

ripe obsidian
#

I tested it a couple weeks ago

late sapphire
#

hit f wait shoot

left hare
#

i c

#

so it doubles vraks cleave to hit 2 things

ripe obsidian
#

You have to be at 80%+ peril, I believe, but it does work

left hare
#

if i wanted to cleave everything it would be agri

late sapphire
#

It also puts assail from 2 targets to 4 targets

left hare
#

so for 10s i'm a god

late sapphire
#

Doubles melee cleave targets as well, not that it matters on ds

left hare
#

and if i go too far i'll die

late sapphire
#

Yeah the 10s after are basically as good as scriers gaze bonus

#

But, importantly, scriers gaze cools down meanwhile

left hare
#

thats neat

late sapphire
#

So you sg, you get the lingering buff, maybe 5s unbuffed, repeat

left hare
#

tranquility probably just makes it so i don't have to worry too much

#

since i'm quelling per shoot

#

does illisi just wipe out the entire horde per swing

late sapphire
#

i think tranquility through slaughter just puts you at 0% peril outright if you are magdumping

#

cleave is a bit more complicated, there are differences between cleave, cleave targets, and cleave damage

radiant frigate
late sapphire
#

but more or less yeah you can just cut through bruisers ragers anything really

left hare
#

if i wanna deal with fat stacks of crushers what options do i got if i'm gunning

radiant frigate
#

suffering is an option

#

other than that volvo

left hare
#

should have been smite smh

late sapphire
#

if you gunker, revolver is ok yeah

#

voidstrike whatthefuck_heresy

radiant frigate
#

ds is such a silly weapon

#

it feels like you can kill an unlimited amount of crushers

left hare
#

issue with ds4 is i dont get the cleave benefits

radiant frigate
#

but on hordes it just suffers

late sapphire
#

You don't really with illsi either

#

The thing about cleave is you can only damage i believe 4 enemies on a light attack anyways

#
  • cleave just ups how well you can cleave larger targets
left hare
#

i'd rather have horde clear tbh since i'm using vraks

#

i'll just cry if my team wipes on crusher pack

late sapphire
#

Grab a deimos

#

clear is pretty good, single target pretty good too

left hare
#

oh actually the cleave buff will help deimos

late sapphire
#

h2 stab heavy puts crusher on its ass

left hare
#

i know about deimos st dmg but i hated it's horde clear back then

radiant frigate
#

deimos is like an inbetween of illisi and ds4

left hare
#

cos u just do the damn l1 h2 again for horde clear

radiant frigate
#

the horde clear is serviceable these days

left hare
#

but u try to squeeze em together

#

so u pop all the hordes heads together

late sapphire
#

with deimos you can really just swing lights

#

no need to sweat i dont like it

radiant frigate
#

real

late sapphire
#

anyways so cleave right

#

if you have +100% cleave and you hit a crowd of groaners, you will hit 4 of em the exact same way as if you didnt have +100% cleave

#
  • stagger on a bunch more
left hare
#

sounds like heavy evis on zealot lol

#

stagger all but hit 4

late sapphire
#

An illsi or deimos has i think 4.5 cleave on lights and 6.5 on heavy

#

trash mobs are like 1 hitmass, bruisers go up to 2

#

so if you light into a group of scab bruisers you start at 4.5, hit 1, 2.5, hit 2nd, 0.5, hit 3rd, stops

#

with doubled cleave you hit 4th and stagger others as well

left hare
#

ok so the cleave here is just letting me stagger others

#

not really killing faster

late sapphire
#

but the thing is, really

#

bruisers are 2 hitmass, gunners ~4, ragers ~10

#

so with double cleave you will start cleaving through gunners as if they weren't there and you will cleave ragers too

left hare
#

but will it deal damage to them

late sapphire
#

illsi special is 10.5, doubled to 21, means you can hit several ragers in a swing

#

yes

#

same damage distribution as other mobs

#

there's just a hard cap on 4 targets on lights and i think 8 on heavies

#

otherwise imagine an illsi special swipe killing 21 groaners

fringe garden
#

If only

late sapphire
#

some numbers might be off i haven't paid attention to this in a while

#

That's roughly the idea though

left hare
#

my head hurts, so 100

late sapphire
#

Double cleave doesn't mean you can kill twice the trashmobs but it does mean you start cutting through ragers like trashmobs

left hare
#

helps with mixed

#

but doesnt help trash

late sapphire
#

anyways, warp splitting totally worth it

patent mango
#

darktide

late sapphire
#

also this is only melee for some reason a single revolver shot can kill 12 groaners

left basin
#

the revolver bulit is like, really big!

patent mango
#

manstopper double barrel warp splitting

left hare
#

holy fk this boss damage...

ripe obsidian
#

It gets no benefit

patent mango
#

its joever

jovial juniper
#

Hmm yes I'd like infinite times 2

remote shadow
#

Anyone know the Scripture spawns for Archivum Sycorax?

ripe obsidian
#

Manstopper is my favorite blessing in the game. Whip out the shotgun in a tight corridor and blow through like 50 poxwalkers

ripe obsidian
remote shadow
#

Ye I know, each book has a pool of spawnpoints

ripe obsidian
fast coral
#

feels like i hit everything with a wet noodle on inferno stafff ngl. what are some common mistake people make with it?

late sapphire
#

Each book is meticulously programmed to spawn in the exact one possible location you didn't check

plucky flax
#

Not using blaze away.

fast coral
#

im using blaze away

late sapphire
#

That's about it

#

What's your talent tree look like

#

Left side venting shriek warp charges is the usual

fast coral
#

literally the blessings im using, but still feels really weak. so probably using it wrong?

#

1 sec

jovial juniper
#

Also low burn

late sapphire
#

If you are using nexus and have warp rider you'll get another 20% damage and crit at high perils

left basin
fast coral
late sapphire
#

Yeah that looks about right i think

fast coral
strong gulch
#

put flak on it

fast coral
#

kk

left basin
#

also, uh, hello

plucky flax
late sapphire
#

Anyways, single target dps on the purg is kinda meh

#

The main thing is the infinite cleave

left basin
#

trauma > fart gaming

late sapphire
#

Hordes should kind of just disappear if you point the rmb at them

nocturne dust
late sapphire
#

What difficulty are you on @fast coral

fast coral
#

auric mael

#

i usually run gunpsyker lol

fast coral
late sapphire
#

Yeah gunker definitely outdoes purg on single target damage

devout meadow
#

What are the Surge Staff dump stat?

left basin
split lance
late sapphire
#

ragers and maulers are respectively like 14 and 18 stacks of soulblaze to kill

#

if you burn and then dump a full shriek they just die on their own

left hare
#

good god vraks + scrier gaze

late sapphire
#

Doesn't really work if the rest of the team has good dps too though

left hare
#

the monstro disappeared

late sapphire
#

They snatch your kills, a real shame

left hare
#

daemon host begone

late sapphire
#

That's why i don't like purgatus

fast coral
late sapphire
#

If the other guys are killing good you'll spend most of your time running

strong gulch
late sapphire
#

Literally never have an enemy within the 16m range long enough to kill it

#

If you team sucks though you can hold off an infinite amount of anything smaller than ogryns

devout meadow
fast coral
radiant frigate
split lance
fast coral
#

but i just help keep hordes off people and stagger ragers

late sapphire
#

angle is worse so you hit less targets usually, too

radiant frigate
#

do they also have the same damage profile

late sapphire
#

prooobably not idk

radiant frigate
#

just lacking the perfect horizontal sweep pattern of h1 l2 on illisi i imagine

late sapphire
#

i am not a numbers guy i was just looking at the breakpoint calculator

radiant frigate
#

(except for the shankination)

split lance
nocturne dust
split lance
#

High risk high reward

late sapphire
#

@radiant frigate breakpoint calc says illsi l1-l3 and deimos l2-l4 have the exact same profiles yeah

split lance
#

(I lost all my money in Vegas)

late sapphire
#

and deimos h1 and illisi h1&h2 have the same too

nocturne dust
radiant frigate
#

so deimos and illis h1l2 are the same attacks at different angles

#

is what i'm hearing

fast coral
radiant frigate
#

honestly that is quite hilarious

split lance
#

Genuinely

fast coral
#

i enjoy being a suport psyker sometimes

#

when i dont i just switch builds

radiant frigate
#

for me, death is usually a skull issue (it cracked and my thoughts spilled out)

upper sun
#

noooooooo

#

u have so much fun at your finger tips

left basin
late sapphire
upper sun
#

just turn off the smite ๐Ÿ˜ญ

late sapphire
#

it also says deimos l1 h2 have 1.5 cleave

#

which i'm not that sure is true

jovial juniper
#

Well they are Strikedown

#

But not like Hsword9 H1 or Saul

radiant frigate
#

they are the big stabini

late sapphire
#

strike not down

#

stab even

#

strikeforward

radiant frigate
#

strike you down (stab you in the face)

remote shadow
#

Female Seer has the same VA as Fuegonassus, right?

radiant frigate
#

No

strong gulch
#

yes

radiant frigate
#

whar

left basin
radiant frigate
upper sun
#

uhhhhhhhhh

radiant frigate
#

it does not say bethan dixon bate here so no

upper sun
#

seer is dreamer?

radiant frigate
#

not auntie sienna

#

Yes

upper sun
#

shes good

#

i mean

#

i hate the voice shes doing

#

but shes good

left basin
#

it's an offbrand susan fuego

strong gulch
#

When I looked it up before it said the same names for sienna and female seer wtf

left basin
#

sounds very similar but absolutely not fire grandma

#

you're read bad

nocturne dust
late sapphire
#

All of them voice something or another i think

#

sienna gets a tertiary role as some random servitor

left basin
#

i need a fourth voice for all characters

#

AND THRUST FOR ALL STAVES AHHHHHHH

#

and brain bosrt

late sapphire
#

Most of them are servitors now that i think about it actually

radiant frigate
#

TIL sienna is also vlaakith in bg3

remote shadow
radiant frigate
#

Huh.

strong gulch
radiant frigate
left basin
#

bardin is melk

late sapphire
radiant frigate
#

kerillian is random scab

strong gulch
radiant frigate
#

๐Ÿ˜ญ

left basin
#

i am potato always

radiant frigate
strong gulch
late sapphire
#

Yeah one of the captains

left basin
#

Warhammer 40,000: Darktide Traitor Captain

radiant frigate
#

so it would seem

#

look how they massacred our girl

left basin
#

i need kerillian to voice a character similar to hadron

#

so i can just die of cumneurysm

radiant frigate
#

similar to hadron in what way

strong gulch
#

The "take their eyes" line always got me.

left basin
#

not specifying

remote shadow
zinc phoenix
radiant frigate
strong gulch
#

She turns your gear into sticks instead of bricks

jovial juniper
#

Isn't Saltz a Scab captain as well?

late sapphire
#

I miss kerillian ๐Ÿ˜ข

remote shadow
#

Saltz and Sienna are both servitors

late sapphire
radiant frigate
late sapphire
radiant frigate
#

can't believe the krubersreik 5 are all heretics now

zinc phoenix
#

๐Ÿชฆ guess they lost

remote shadow
#

The natural result of being around an Aeldari for too long

#

Heresy cooties

zinc phoenix
#

Or four, doesnโ€™t matter

jovial juniper
#

Yeah I think Saltz is the Spiritual Scab Captain

#

Which is funny

remote shadow
#

The Scab Captains are the Sanction: Redactus targets, right?

radiant frigate
#

what i find funnier is that FOR ZHE EMPEROR, I'M SURE and the train enthusiast ogryn are the same VA

left basin
#

who the fuck did alix wilton regan voice

#

it aint rinda

radiant frigate
#

a scab captain

#

which is weird because i do not really recall hearing her

#

and i usually recognize that voice on the spot

strong gulch
#

You ever hear someone shout Saltz's line "Holy Sigmar, bless this ravaged body!!" right after a gnarly fart, cuz I have. KEKW_ogryn

jovial juniper
#

There's brute

#

Sadist

#

Maniac

#

Officer

#

Spiritual

radiant frigate
#

holy sigmar, ravage this blessed body

jovial juniper
#

Maniac is the one screaming "Seven... Seven, seven seven seven"

#

Nice battle taunt dumbass

remote shadow
#

I don't think I've seen the maniac yet

#

Only ever heard the male Captains

radiant frigate
#

rare elf in scab captain disguise

remote shadow
#

Standing on Bardin's shoulders

jovial juniper
#

Tbf Captains have tons of filters and growly voice

radiant frigate
#

may be harder to recognize

jovial juniper
#

Took me forever until I realized that one captain was female

#

Also Maniac's death lines are peak

#

Nurglish yap + choking on their own blood

left basin
jovial juniper
#

Gas mask filter+ growling voice

jovial juniper
#

Like Brute is very bassy

#

Spiritual is Saltz

#

Officer is very mid tone

fiery stratus
#

Gotta love the character interactions in this game

jovial juniper
#

Sadist and Maniac are very growly

left hare
#

gunker making me play like a paranoid schizo as 2 hits will make me die

#

But then a monstro appears and i remember i'm a god

jovial juniper
#

Ah yes the two sides of gunker

radiant frigate
nocturne dust
deft igloo
#

Me, altho more towards the crowd control side of things rather than boss damage output ๐Ÿคฃ

ornate hamlet
#

My psyker was trained in Detroit

#

She controls by ensuring she only has to control once

upper sun
deft igloo
#

Nah, but fr, a horde shows up an all I gotta do is pull out my shards and CTRL+DELETE said horde

ripe obsidian
deft igloo
#

I also love it cause I went with the angry German guy voice and whenever I pull out the shards, his voice lines just bring out the goblin in me ๐Ÿ‘น

ripe obsidian
#

I would enjoy having some sort of psyker boss. Or any mission boss that isn't just a captain.

#

Give me the 40k equivalent of Bibblesnot Hatsporg

deft igloo
#

Thatโ€™d be cool tbh

#

Especially cause Psyker v Psyker would be nuts to see

ripe obsidian
#

Or whatever that necromancer boss was at the end of the vampire mansion. I need more missions where pubs scatter and die immediately. ๐Ÿ™ƒ

ornate hamlet
#

Gurgleshit Halesplot

ripe obsidian
#

Or a chaos space marine fight along the lines of Bodvarr Ribspreader, or whatever his name is

#

Tbh just more variety

#

Or a Warframe-esque procedural map generation...

nocturne dust
ripe obsidian
#

Chaos Wastes, I guess. But in space.

nocturne dust
#

Atoma Wastes

deft igloo
#

Procedural map generation would be kinda tight, but at the same time, the maps we are just art

nocturne dust
ornate hamlet
#

All my homies hate procedural generation

nocturne dust
#

Darktide already has procedurally generated enemy spawns staregryn

graceful locust
#

i do NOT want procedural map generation i feel like it would a. suck and b. increase cpu load by 500%

ornate hamlet
#

Procedural map generation is a plague upon mankind, inshallah

#

wow I totally haven't seen this exact same room 3 times before

nocturne dust
graceful locust
#

yeah the thing is

#

i've literally never seen it done well

nocturne dust
#

also, procedural generation should occur in the loading screen. Now, we can't trust Fatshark, but eh.

graceful locust
#

procedurally generated maps always feel really boring

ornate hamlet
#

Warframe's maps were amazing until I realized they're just rooms shoved together

graceful locust
#

this is whta i mean

#

also duelist sword flame staff build, does this exist?

ornate hamlet
#

And then you get all sorts of different combinations that make everything look like a house with prefabricated rooms that are just rearranged

nocturne dust
#

Also, Streets of Rogue

graceful locust
#

deep rock galactic has like roblox terrain so yeah duh

ornate hamlet
#

The individual rooms have the potential to be really cool, as Warframe actually does

graceful locust
#

no idea what streets of rogue is

ornate hamlet
#

But the map as a whole just fucking sucks

graceful locust
#

streets of my balls

nocturne dust
patent mango
#

waiting for streets of rogue 2 ...

graceful locust
#

ok sorry i haven't played your fucking indie speedrunner bait thats an allegory for the main characters child abuse or whatever

#

dickhead

patent mango
#

huh?

nocturne dust
#

Also Enter the Gungeon, Factorio, Valheim, Rimworld, Don't Starve, and of course the OGs Terraria and Minecraft.

graceful locust
#

i was joking

patent mango
#

abiotic factor is firee too

patent mango
#

wait we arent just mentioning random indies

#

forgo

nocturne dust
patent mango
#

it doesnt

nocturne dust
#

Big sad

graceful locust
#

like if gtfo had procedural generation

#

that would be kind of weird

nocturne dust
graceful locust
#

there are none that is my point

nocturne dust
#

Oh wait, I already named one

#

Deep Rock Galactic

patent mango
#

darktide mission in the under underhive where its a cave

graceful locust
#

mission ends with you getting eaten by whatever horrible megafauna lives on atoma

nocturne dust
#

If you squint hard enough, DRG is Darktide, you mine stuff (skulls, minerals) and kill weird smelly things

patent mango
#

thats just the avg mission with a beast of nurgle or hounds

#

look im just saying ogryn has both a pickaxe and rocks

#

just needs an autocannon or smth

nocturne dust
#

I wonder if they have a mining helmet skin

jovial juniper
nocturne dust
graceful locust
#

somethine like that

graceful locust
#

from teh metal fab yeoman set

#

honestly i don't really get the drg hype

#

its aight

#

but it ain't the ebst game i've ever played

fiery wigeon
#

I'm inching close to 1000 hours

graceful locust
#

i like the missions where U gotta make the like Oil Drill thing

#

that mission is fun

fiery wigeon
#

the pipes one?

nocturne dust
#

I mean, for a horde game DRG is like one of the best if not the best

graceful locust
#

yeah sure

fiery wigeon
#

yeah pipes is really good

graceful locust
#

darktide is my fav co-op horde shooter

#

bc i love warhammer

nocturne dust
#

Let's be real, Darktide is cool but has had major issues since release that have soured its reception.

#

By a lot

fiery wigeon
#

I don't have any attachment to warhammer

nocturne dust
#

And some of those issues still persist in a terrible way.

nocturne dust
fiery wigeon
#

i do quite enjoy current state darktide but my god the weapon stats system Is ASS

nocturne dust
#

and I do think Darktide's gameplay is some of the best... when it works. staregryn

graceful locust
#

i've literally never had an issue with darktide's gameplay

fiery wigeon
#

makes trying to start a new character an absolute slog

#

yeah the actual gameplay is great

nocturne dust
graceful locust
#

i've been playing since december 2022

nocturne dust
#

Silent enemies, teleporting, bad hit registers, phasing through floors

graceful locust
#

i got it like a month after it released

nocturne dust
graceful locust
nocturne dust
graceful locust
#

i have an ethernet cable so my connection's always fine

nocturne dust
#

I have such a cable too, it's only Darktide that has these issues.

graceful locust
#

weird

daring moss
#

so, is it a known issue that thee electrokinetic force staff mastery has more points than it does blessings?

nocturne dust
#

Like, even VT2 I don't have these connection issues.

fiery wigeon
daring moss
fiery wigeon
#

real

left dagger
#

does this mean killing an enemy by the tics of soulblaze or killing an enemy that has soulblaze applied to it?

graceful locust
#

i'd assume an enemy that has soulblaze on it

#

bc if not it would suck

nocturne dust
#

The latter case is when you kill an enemy the same time that soulblaze ticks damage

#

It, for some reason, qualifies as a soulblaze kill

#

even if soulblaze didn't make the difference

fiery wigeon
nocturne dust
#

Fatshark programming, amiright

left dagger
#

sounds pretty buggy. oh well im out of points to spend for my gunker

fiery wigeon
#

lol

nocturne dust
#

I mean, I wouldn't take souldrinker like... ever.

fiery wigeon
#

same

nocturne dust
#

It doesn't work with gunker and is too far from staff side to be useful.

#

even if it was a single point away from staff builds, it's only 5% crit and toughness

fiery wigeon
#

it's alright with blaze illisi

nocturne dust
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But blaze illisi ain't alright ๐Ÿ˜ญ

fiery wigeon
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indeed

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very pretty though

ripe obsidian
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Killing an Enemy with Soulblaze restores 5% Toughness and grants 5% critical Hit Chance for 5s.

function: recover_percentage_toughness

stat buff: critical_strike_chance

Whenever an enemy who is currently affected by Psyker's Soulblaze dies, does two things:

(1) Grants 5% additional crit chance to all attacks that can crit for 5s; cannot be refreshed during active duration.

(2) Replenishes 5% of maximum toughness; procs on every valid enemy death.

nocturne dust
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I dunno, I'd like more colors than slightly-blue white

fiery wigeon
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fair

nocturne dust
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Give me a soap DoT, Fatshark

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Let me purge heretics with cleanliness

fiery wigeon
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LMAO

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that'd be very funny

ripe obsidian
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I am the melee-est of psykers

nocturne dust
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Soap gun thumbsup_ogryn