#psyker-class

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radiant frigate
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most likely

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i never used void like that so to me nothing changed

nimble lily
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Voidstrikes pretty fun, gotta get used to having an idea of how much charge I need to take somethin out

potent echo
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Always full baybeee

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Unless it's horde

nimble lily
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And getting used when to Assail and when to BALL

potent echo
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Or shotgunners

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I usually save ball for rager/mauler and above mixed hordes

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Assail with warpsplitter is much better at horde clear if it's not super dense

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Like general spread out horde running at you = assail

Corridor choke or door camping = ball

ionic sorrel
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Scriers and purg is really fun. Just tried it for the first time since the update.

onyx sentinel
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is there a mod that allows banter to override callouts? feels like you don’t really have a chance to hear them on histg/maelstrom

primal plume
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Using Voidblast
I die due to bullshit
Everything immedietally goes to shit
Thats crazy

restive slate
split lance
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Especially now that the stagger got buffed

radiant frigate
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what if you get shootified

radiant frigate
primal plume
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was blessed nurgle enemeis too

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so i had a mauler in my face

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basically the game just wanted to be a collosal dickhead

sacred crane
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its like damage vs armor

plucky flax
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This is why trauma bad

primal plume
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It was going fine

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until it wasnt

radiant frigate
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buff please

plucky flax
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Yes I agree

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Make blazing spirits t4 great again

radiant frigate
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do it freestyle

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embrace the suffering

onyx sentinel
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???

split lance
split lance
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Basic gunker build

edgy heart
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throne and liberty isaac_pogU

split lance
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Oh this is the one I was tryna get soul drinker on

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I think

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Here’s normal gunker

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The new Warp Unbound node is pretty much a must pick now if you are going to play with gaze. 10s of 100% peril for maximum cleave and damage. The latest hotfix also made it work properly with other staves.
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plucky flax
split lance
plucky flax
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Okie boss

split lance
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I like making enemies go boom

potent echo
runic kiln
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Tried it yet? 😛

potent echo
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😴

strange wigeon
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still haven't really tried out Smite, you go EP I presume. What's a good build for it?

potent echo
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EP smite kills everything up to and including ragers

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Take creeping and ER

stone minnow
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What does perilous assault even do?

potent echo
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Something like this with 4 extra points for wherever

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You swap to your ranged faster

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Melees are instant I think

stone minnow
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Just wondering. That’s pretty awful of a perk

strange wigeon
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more or less what I built, thanks! Still fumbling through the builds, so much changed in a year i haven't played but it's fun playing with the new toys

potent echo
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Yea it doesn't really make sense, it should be on the gunker side of the tree

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Being a travel node for staff buffs is really strange

stone minnow
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Like if it was able to charge up force swords faster. It could had been useful

potent echo
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True

stone minnow
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It’s seem rather perfect for gunker

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Of course my gunker build been using the double barrel shotgun

sacred crane
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you can take off cruel fortune for cleave node tho

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Also is empryic resolve good for blaze trauma or no?

echo root
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So yes

potent echo
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With warp unbound, I really want more assails

plucky flax
plucky flax
echo root
wind spruce
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And as @potent echo said get warp splitting. It's a straight upgrade compared to ethereal shards so there's no reason to ever make that choice

wind spruce
plucky flax
sacred crane
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What wrong with cruel fortune or cleave?

jovial juniper
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The lack of cruel fortune
That's the problem

tribal echo
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the more i play this class the more my respect of good psykers increase

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i randomly die so often by not seeing one pox walker

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or one gunner

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the margin for error is way smaller

wind spruce
weary crane
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Are there any dueling sword attacks that are horizontal sweep?

worn beacon
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I finally upgraded my recon to a usable state

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Say

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Is the mark of a recon basically up to the preference?

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Not sure I like the blue one that much

glossy escarp
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Very different playstyle

worn beacon
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Yeah also psyker gets good melee options

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Unlike ogryns

elder wasp
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hear me out: polearm or spear for psyker

glossy escarp
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Still get my shit kicked in every now and again but I suck less now

glossy escarp
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Care to elaborate, spark'ead?

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The only "bad" one I can think of is mk2 club tbh

wind spruce
sacred crane
runic kiln
runic kiln
sacred crane
wind spruce
sacred crane
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Recon against a boss is just free 30 stacks of scriers

worn beacon
glossy escarp
worn beacon
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...Barely outperform a veteran with a standard shovel

sacred crane
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Alternatively you can use the vraks instead of recon for a bit better carapace and boss damage

wind spruce
glossy escarp
worn beacon
glossy escarp
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They did my boy so dirty

worn beacon
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But psyker melee is also hilariously bad

sacred crane
wind spruce
wind spruce
sacred crane
glossy escarp
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Do you mean in damage, cleave, stagger, crowd control, versatility?

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I love the shovel as much as the next guy but they are not the same lmao

wind spruce
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@worn beacon this was a game I played with atleast one competent zealot

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Shredded them with just melee

worn beacon
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Huh

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So you can make a melee psyker?

glossy escarp
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Yeah

worn beacon
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I've just been told that psyker keeps melee mostly for self-defense considering how staves just obliterate everything

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Gunkers don't count

glossy escarp
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Have you actually played melee psyker for yourself?

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Best way to find out

wind spruce
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Psyker thrives on dynamically utilising ranged, melee and blitz

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Melee psyker is bad.

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But psykers that don't melee for anything but defense and mutants are worse.

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Your focus will never be melee as psyker (if you want to play optimally), but it absolutely should be a large chunk of your damage

worn beacon
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Ds4 and deimos whenever a horde spawns

wind spruce
worn beacon
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I should've thought and phrased it better

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Ds4 and deimos suck at horde clearing imho

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Illisi is fine for everything I've found

wind spruce
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That really doesn't matter

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You don't need a melee that is optimal at horde clearing. Hordes aren't what kill you.

worn beacon
glossy escarp
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If you've got a balanced build you'll have a hordeclear staff paired with the ds4 or deimos

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They don't have to excel at everything because you shore up their weakness elsewhere

worn beacon
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Yeah my point exactly

jovial juniper
worn beacon
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Psyker melee doesn't matter because you can patch up their weaknesses with blitz+staff

wind spruce
worn beacon
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I

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Am yet to actually use illisi

wind spruce
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Good good

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Don't start

wind spruce
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Doesn't even kill half the horde units

worn beacon
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It's me not being used to being fragile as glass

wind spruce
glossy escarp
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I run a knife on my purgatus build because I found a lack of mobility to be what got me killed the most

wind spruce
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It's really not that great of a weapon

wind spruce
worn beacon
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Mk6 knife makes me wanna open my veins on psyker ngl

wind spruce
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Mobility is always the best option

blissful forge
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😭

glossy escarp
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It can take out armor when I need it to and else it's a mobility stick, I die a lot less since I started using it

jovial juniper
wind spruce
worn beacon
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Figures

blissful forge
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The precog thrust ds in question

sacred crane
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Dueling sword makes me feel fancy and cool

wind spruce
blissful forge
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Two shot a crusher lol

worn beacon
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Idk I use ds4 with uncanny and dodge refilling blessing

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Let's me actually turn off my brain in hordes and shit

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On gunker I mean

wind spruce
glossy escarp
blissful forge
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Not even

wind spruce
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Thrust and precog is the most 90 IQ combo I've ever heard

glossy escarp
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I'm not exactly happy that I like the knife so much but I'm viewing it as a stepping stone to getting better at movement

left mirage
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penetrating flame on the inferno staff kinda dogwater

wind spruce
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Let's use something that slows down our attacks and has a tiny window at the same time

left mirage
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even with blaze away

wind spruce
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I like zoomies

worn beacon
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Kinda wanna use different melee's for every staff build I got
Deimos + Purgatus
DS4 + Surge
Knife mk6 + Trauma
Illisi + Void
What can I change knife to

echo root
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Other than that I cannot see a use for it

wind spruce
wind spruce
worn beacon
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Gotcha

wind spruce
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Oh and DS can kill bosses for void, surge doesn't need help with that

glossy escarp
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I have deimos on surge, knife on purg and DS4 on trauma if memory serves

jovial juniper
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Use DS2 Rampage Precog with Surge staff
Like me chadgryn

wind spruce
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I have DS on every build except surge because that's the objectively most optimal choice whatthefuck_heresy

glossy escarp
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I just use what works and feels fun

wind spruce
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And then I still run DS on surge because I forgot how to use anything else (woops)

worn beacon
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I don't wanna sound rude rn
But knife's still there

wind spruce
echo root
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Knife is nice, but why run knife over DS4

worn beacon
worn beacon
wind spruce
echo root
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Zealot for other melee

worn beacon
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A shovel mk7

wind spruce
plucky flax
wind spruce
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Deimos is yucky

echo root
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Take that back

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or else

wind spruce
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Marginally better

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DS kill boss noice

glossy escarp
glossy escarp
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I'm guessing that's the reason

gray kelp
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mk12 recon or mk5 colomnus for gunker? Running recon right now, giga mag size is nice but feel like ammo economy isnt the best especially when playing with randoms that waste tons of ammo

wind spruce
glossy escarp
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The mk6 push attack can be spammed infinitely for very good single target damage, works well against crushers too

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I don't use it for hordeclear at all though

wind spruce
glossy escarp
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Never said that

wind spruce
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That's what we're talking about so I inferred

gray kelp
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just give me a 2h force sword, make it a roided out exe sword or something

glossy escarp
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I was just asking your reasoning behind why DS4 is the "objectively best choice"

gray kelp
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please

glossy escarp
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Curious is all

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I find the meta interesting on a technical level but very boring from a gameplay perspective, if that makes sense, so it's still fun to learn new stuff

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Just not very likely I'll put it all into practice

wind spruce
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Fair play. It's a lot easier to reach through crowds and hit shit with the DS, mobility is basically the same and you don't have the disadvantage of being constantly at 0 stamina from spamming push stab

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And you do much more damage against crushers tbh

broken carbon
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/mobility

warm bolt
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I think my issues with the knife is i sometimes cancel out an attack animation before it finishes and end up doing 0 damage

broken carbon
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the horde clear sucks but it’s whatever

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staff or gun for hordes anyway

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if ur using a ds

wind spruce
broken carbon
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right

wind spruce
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I don't think it's exactly the same

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Because the DS light lunges you forward immediately

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Knife heavy has a pause

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(Because it's a heavy)

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I explained that badly. DS light actually lunges you forward. Knife heavy increases your sprint speed while winding it up. Completely different

near drift
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Yo tac axe is actually good why didn't anyone tell me

glossy escarp
zinc phoenix
near drift
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Rashad was feeling a little too slow for my liking on psyker and I was doing full blaze trauma fiend so big targets were mostly covered already

formal harness
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psyker is not busted

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not at all good sir

lyric burrow
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not even a little bit

jovial juniper
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Just stack crit and you should be fine

weary crane
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honestly, if duel sword had first target instead of cleave damage, it would be the best melee weapon

leaden geode
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it is the best melee weapon right now

hollow jolt
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Give brutal momentum to dueling sword

left basin
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need to be besterer

leaden geode
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let's not buff the psycho needle even more, it'll invalidate everything else

placid crypt
hollow jolt
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Not good enough

placid crypt
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Skill issue KEKW_ogryn

hollow jolt
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I want to be able to kill Typhus through a beast of nurgle

hollow jolt
austere warren
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How are those right side talents?

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Cleave on peril and all that

north hatch
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How good are the other melees for psyker

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Been using force sword, dueling, and knife

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Think it might be time to branch out

lyric burrow
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hsword is pretty decent but those 3 you mentioned are probably the top 3

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combat axe is good as well

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dclaw isnt terrible either

north hatch
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Dclaws good for party but I think I might just use that for my vet

lyric burrow
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yeah its a little weird on psyke r

north hatch
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How good is the mace cause the stun might be nice?

lyric burrow
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its decent

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you can def use it

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but its not crazy

north hatch
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Hmm Ic ic

lyric burrow
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youll want to take unyielding damage with it for sure

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as a gun or blitz

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cause it really lacks that

north hatch
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Is the heavy chain sword still zealot only or can vet use it too

lyric burrow
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evis is zealot only

lyric burrow
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oh right you do get that

north hatch
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KD is

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Kraft dinner?

lyric burrow
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kinetic deflection

nocturne dust
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kinetic deflection

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block with peril

north hatch
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Kek

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Wait I thought KD was a force sword only thing

lyric burrow
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nah

nocturne dust
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One stamina curio lets you parry overheads with 0 timing and only get 30% peril

nocturne dust
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which lets you block bullets

north hatch
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Ohhh

nocturne dust
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I wish I had a Force Devil's Claw so I could parry bullets pogryn

north hatch
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I do have a 60 mobility d claw I picked up

north hatch
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Illsi for crowds Deimos for single target and obscurus is just ass right?

nocturne dust
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si

north hatch
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And which devil claw was the best

nocturne dust
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Well, obscurus is a functional sword you can use but yeah it is the worst force sword

nocturne dust
north hatch
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Is it the best crowd one?

lyric burrow
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mk4 and mk7 are equally good but mk4 is easier to use

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just dont use mk1

north hatch
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It looks like you just use parry for heavier enemies

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And then lmb spam for crowds?

nocturne dust
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I think the second heavy is a horizontal swing?

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But yeah you can just spam lmb

lyric burrow
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on mk4 yeah

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you have a sweep that chains into a light sweel

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and repeats

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which is for hordes

broken carbon
nocturne dust
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It will feel odd because it can't really kill anything on the first hit if you're not parrying

broken carbon
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heavy 2 chains into light 3

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and parry also chains into light 3

potent echo
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im a recon12 gunker main now KEKW_ogryn

lyric burrow
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it does have the better ST combo yeah although im p sure the PAs are the exact same aside from animation

broken carbon
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and the 4 is a slash

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idk the PA damage on the 4 though

lyric burrow
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they have the exact same damage profile

broken carbon
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tbf

lyric burrow
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ones just an overhead

broken carbon
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ah

lyric burrow
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i still prefer mk7s

broken carbon
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same

lyric burrow
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but damage wise they are identical

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stab is jus teasier to aim

broken carbon
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true

lyric burrow
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i do think its weird you would think the stab would have better WS

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but alas

late yew
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There were some gunker buffs, rightr?

lyric burrow
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i dont think pre existing ones were buffed though '

north hatch
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For deimos deflector slaughterer or deflector uncanny strike

potent echo
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uncunny

north hatch
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Uncunny? 🤨

nocturne dust
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slaughterer for horde, uncanny for single target. I recommend uncanny, it helps a tad with hordes anyway and deimos is a single target sword.

north hatch
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Maybe for a slaaneshi force sword

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I'm a terrible person

potent echo
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uncanny slaughter illisi

nocturne dust
north hatch
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True!

potent echo
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slay

late yew
lyric burrow
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not this patch i dont think

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was a while ago

late yew
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So las pistol is the best for scrier bui;d?

plucky flax
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Laspistol, vraks formerly columbus or recon las.

late yew
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Its crits not great

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unlike las pistol

nocturne dust
late yew
plucky flax
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MK12

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Any fast shooting finesse guns are good with gazer.

thorn cedar
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yea it doesnt benefit from finesse that much but it still has a lot of output

late yew
thorn cedar
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triggers crit bonuses with high frequency

late yew
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I use recon a lot on vet

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not sure about psyker

plucky flax
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Recon bonuses from headshot and crit.

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That's finesse stat.

late yew
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question is how much

plucky flax
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Yeah but some more than others.

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IE CRIT STRING WEAPONS

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LIKE RECON LAS AND VRAKS INFANTRY

late yew
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i don't get it

nocturne dust
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Scrier's Voidstrike is an actual good combo

ripe obsidian
lethal lagoon
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Psyker's advantage is tons of crits with true aim.

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And the other psyker stuff.

upper sun
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what if

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psyker had scourge

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but instead of blood its soulblaze

left basin
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on corridor maps it's good

slate oasis
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opinions on this ability?

blissful forge
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Smite is shit

weary crane
nocturne dust
nocturne dust
weary crane
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Do melee blessings apply to staffs while the effect lasts, e.g if I use shred will the increased crit chance also apply to my purga?

ripe obsidian
nocturne dust
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some of them do iirc

blissful forge
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By far

nocturne dust
blissful forge
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It is

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Lol

ripe obsidian
slate oasis
nocturne dust
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Bro doesn't know about the EP shriek combo

blissful forge
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Lol?

ripe obsidian
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Smite can hard CC an entire elite patrol

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BB can maybe kill 1 elite

nocturne dust
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Smite can also kill everything in a wide radius by using creeping flames shriek in combo with EP

vernal blaze
blissful forge
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And just build peril with something useful like electrokinetic or voidblast

nocturne dust
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shriek alone does not do what EP smite + shriek does

vernal blaze
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why are we moving on to the new staff names so quickly

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😟

nocturne dust
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Because it's a filthy gray name

vernal blaze
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old names always sounded so nice

blissful forge
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Smite users lol

ripe obsidian
nocturne dust
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I don't use smite, lmao

nocturne dust
blissful forge
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Thanks for killing the pox walkers

nocturne dust
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Lol, it literally kills entire mixed hordes excluding crushers but okay

blissful forge
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Just use voidblast staff? Lol

nocturne dust
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Just use [insert other OP thing here]

ripe obsidian
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"Voidblast can kill mixed hordes, therefore nothing else can."

blissful forge
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Yeah a secondary does better than that shit blitz

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Lol

nocturne dust
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Weren't we comparing to brain burst?

blissful forge
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Brain burst for crushers and bosses

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Yeah i was

nocturne dust
ripe obsidian
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BB is not great against crushers imo.

nocturne dust
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and do far better than BB

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BB sucks, use a sword

vernal blaze
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brain burst lol

blissful forge
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So like why use arguably the worst blitz over bb with kinetic flayer or assail with malefic momentum

ripe obsidian
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BB is the weakest blitz, but okay

blissful forge
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Lol

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Lmao even

nocturne dust
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Assail is decent. BB is the worst. Smite is overpowered.

ripe obsidian
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And kinetic flayer is one pop every 15 seconds that you can't control or aim.

vernal blaze
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brain burst is the 'im using purge/trauma staff and still want the psykinetics presence node' blitz

nocturne dust
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Even with EP, BB is just okay. It's ridiculous, especially because of the ridiculous multipliers EP gives it.

slate oasis
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they really need to buff bb imo. feels kinda antiquated compared to the other two

blissful forge
ripe obsidian
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BB with kinetic resonance, EP, and double shield can do well. But that's a lot of points invested to do something just okay

ripe obsidian
ripe obsidian
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Tbh I use smite mostly as a backup if things have gone totally to shit and I need a moment to breathe.

vernal blaze
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look it's okay to consider not using smite to put you on a level of like purity or honor that those who do will never get to

nocturne dust
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Smite is great as a backup even without the broken EP combo

vernal blaze
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but smite is like objectively super strong atm

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arguably for a while actually

nocturne dust
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I don't like smite at all, but I ain't denying its usefulness

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especially when compared to BB 💀

ripe obsidian
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I use BB on purg for "No one is shooting the sniper, guess I'll do it" moments

nocturne dust
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Yeah, I really only take BB on purg and trauma, and I never switch to it on trauma

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and I only switch to it on purg as a last resort

ripe obsidian
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That's how I am with smite on Voidstrike. I have it, but 3/4 of missions I never use it

slate oasis
vernal blaze
ripe obsidian
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I didn't like Coruscation in VT2 and I don't like Trauma in DT

vernal blaze
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"why are there so many shotgunners and flamers" because you're not killing them lackwit

nocturne dust
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I hated Sienna in VT2, lol

pearl viper
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:(

nocturne dust
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Quelling costing health was dumb and annoying because temp hp mechanics and staves being generally weaker anyway staregryn

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Sienna bad.

vernal blaze
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6 warp charges and I'm still spending more time quelling than actually using bb for the 9th time in a minute

slate oasis
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same. quelling costing hp always turned me off of sienna

ripe obsidian
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Yeah, it's such a nice change in DT

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I was primarily a WHC Saltz player in VT2

vernal blaze
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temp hp gen was like so ridiculously easy though so imo the tradeoff was at least tolerable

nocturne dust
vernal blaze
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in cata you could swipe flail or firesword once and generate like 45 thp on demand and that shit was so wacky

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who decided hyperdensity should be the norm for chaff in hordes

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love that guy

nocturne dust
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Shield bashing to fill your entire bar with temp hp pogryn

ripe obsidian
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I do sometimes miss WHC's Ult > 100% crit chance for 6 seconds > instakill on crit headshot > mop up Stormvermin patrol with rapier light attacks

nocturne dust
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I miss kruber's warhammer

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I guess the thammer is close enough

ripe obsidian
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I was a filthy spear/shield user with Kruber

nocturne dust
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I liked spear/shield on elf

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like a dirty dodge handmaiden

ripe obsidian
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I didn't play elf except to get the all legend maps challenges

plucky flax
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Give VT2 surge staff and give DT bolt staff.

ripe obsidian
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I was Saltz > Kruber > Bardin in that order

nocturne dust
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I think Psyker should keep being the class of 'no aim' so the bolt staff here should be head seeking

ripe obsidian
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Or whatever Sienna said when throwing her fireskull

nocturne dust
analog agate
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Loved me shield maiden and the ol’ Krubs when they introduced knight

late yew
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was my team incomptent

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or is purgatus that op now?

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alm ost 1 mil damage

nocturne dust
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yes

ripe obsidian
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Purg is silly with Blaze Away

slate oasis
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purgatus also just kinda farms numbers

late yew
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look

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That finesse of Recon

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not impressive at all

nocturne dust
plucky flax
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That's nearly double damage across the board on a weakspot crit.

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Do you know how often it crits?

late yew
#

now compare it to las pistol finesse

plucky flax
#

Especially with gazer and finesse damage boosting it up + tru aim.

#

Yeah I said laspistol mk2 is also a good weapon for DD and gazer.

#

And?

nocturne dust
#

Las pistol doesn't get crit strings right?

plucky flax
#

If you are not actually going to try it in a game then don't just use numbers.

late yew
#

What is a crit string?

nocturne dust
#

Multiple crit shots per crit

ripe obsidian
#

Automatic weapons get multiple crits when they crit

vernal blaze
#

is psyker steam guide updated actually

ripe obsidian
#

In some places

#

Not fully

broken carbon
#

but crit weakspots on a recon or non-finesse weapon are still a large enough buff to damage to be noticeable

zinc phoenix
# late yew

you get to shoot a wee bit more with the recon las

#

also i gotta say its wacky that the laser weapons are inaccurate

#

lasers

#

the thing whose damage comes from a beam that travels the speed of light

ripe obsidian
#

Bad optics on the gun

#

No one cleaned it properly, now light's just flying everywhere

plucky flax
#

Huh? I can snipe without ads much easier than the infantry gun.

#

Yes it's not pin point accurate but it's accurate enough and very low recoil hip fire.

late yew
ripe obsidian
#

I have no explanation for the recoil part

broken carbon
#

me

#

i’m the explanation for the recoil

ripe obsidian
#

But as someone who has had to deal with badly installed fiber, I know that people being clumsy with optics can screw up lasers

ripe obsidian
radiant frigate
lethal lagoon
radiant frigate
#

feedback for pewpews

lethal lagoon
radiant frigate
#

we can even call it scourge of spirit

#

legally distinct? i think so

lethal lagoon
#

No we are psyker, we just steal

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Scourge it is

radiant frigate
#

matter of fact

#

bake that functionality into souldrinker

#

make the talent earn its place on the right side

#

gotta tenderise the soul to make it drinkable

#

unfortunately this would synergize really well with knife

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which i do not like

slate oasis
#

does toughness regen speed on curios impact all sources of toughness you regen or just specific ones like being in coherency? I realized I don't actually know so I'm just curious

modest perch
#

Coherency regen only

upper sun
#

@lethal lagoon I have time for A game

lethal lagoon
upper sun
#

ready to forget 4k hours worth of game time in 30 minutes

lethal lagoon
upper sun
#

lets get restarted

zinc phoenix
#

🍔 atus is more fun to play with a working mouse

upper sun
split lance
upper sun
#

@split lance

#

u wanna come?

split lance
#

Hi

lethal lagoon
#

come now

split lance
#

I’d be down

lethal lagoon
#

Tren is always down to come

nocturne dust
#

Trapped in the grass Sitgryn

split lance
lethal lagoon
upper sun
#

im gonna pee

#

sec

lethal lagoon
#

Wow, what a weirdo

north hatch
#

Fuck

nocturne dust
#

Damage is a dumpstat anyway

north hatch
#

I'll dump yoy

inland flower
#

Sup, havnt played in a while and my builds are gone. What's the preferred spec for purgatus? Crit still? Saw some stuff about blaze away instead of warp nexus on it.

I've been fiddling with the tree and having trouble finding enough points for warp rider/kinetic deflection/souldrinker, at least when im going for warp siphon

nocturne dust
nocturne dust
lethal lagoon
#

@split lance Madge

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Use that new 3090 and load in faster

nocturne dust
#

purgatus build, swap warp battery for KF and grab the cooldown aura instead for max meta

inland flower
#

Thanks man

lethal lagoon
#

That build is more basic than pumpkin spice latte and uggs.

split lance
inland flower
#

no melee %speed/soul drinker/prescience then?

upper sun
upper sun
#

i peed faster

nocturne dust
#

Purgatus is your melee

lethal lagoon
nocturne dust
#

souldrinker is too much of a deviation

inland flower
#

Suppose thats true, thanks for the help

lethal lagoon
#

That's what I do

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Wildfire kinda useless on purg lowkey on stack no cap fr fr

nocturne dust
lethal lagoon
#

not on purg

#

You are already lighting everything up

north hatch
#

Is there a difference between the Deimos force light attack and heavy

nocturne dust
lethal lagoon
#

It's literally the worst on purg

radiant frigate
#

wildfire good (for the purpose of getting more souldrinker procs)

north hatch
#

Cause they do really similar damage on the psykanum

lethal lagoon
#

cause you have a constant warpfire source

nocturne dust
upper sun
#

i think im flirting with someone on mourningstar

nocturne dust
#

free firestarter

north hatch
radiant frigate
#

turn one PC proc into a matryoshka sequence of mobs with ever smaller stacks of soulblaze

upper sun
#

@lethal lagoon i added a random

lethal lagoon
#

Go E-date on your own time

upper sun
#

TOO LATE

#

were playing with girlfailure

radiant frigate
#

who

upper sun
#

idk

north hatch
upper sun
#

someone named "Girlfailure-guard"

lethal lagoon
upper sun
#

i emoted

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they emoted back

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its meant to bee

lethal lagoon
#

@split lance What are you a firehose, get in here.

nocturne dust
upper sun
#

BRO FRYING CHICKEN IN THERE

lethal lagoon
ripe obsidian
# nocturne dust Fight me, wildfire good

Hard cap of 4. You cannot transfer more than 4 stacks total per dying target.

Can only target enemies with 4 or less stacks. Enemies with 4 will just refresh in duration and consume a stack.

Stacks are always spread evenly among suitable targets if possible.

plucky flax
#

Another day another wildfire doubter.

inland flower
#

Essence harvest is no good cause of the 5 sec spread ye?

ripe obsidian
# nocturne dust sure, but it's a free 4 stacks with purg

It's a free 4 stacks if there is 1 enemy nearby with 0 stacks on them

"The maximum amount of valid targets is 4: If 4 stacks are to be spread and 4 targets are in range, each target receives 1 stack; if 4 stacks are to be spread and 3 targets are in range, 1 target receives 2 stacks while the other 2 targets receive 1 stack each, etc."

"Targets do not receive Soulblaze stacks caused by the talent if they already have 4 stacks or more on them. Valid targets can receive Soulblaze stacks up to a maximum of 4 that are caused by the talent"

jovial juniper
inland flower
#

yeah

ripe obsidian
plucky flax
#

Faster ramp up. Spread through wall and terrain. Can mark enemies for you via blue glows.

ripe obsidian
#

On which weapons do you use it?

zinc phoenix
#

burgatus, trauma, surge for me

plucky flax
#

As above ^

#

On any builds utilise creeping flames spam.

ripe obsidian
#

I am not sure I have any points I'd want to trade for Wildfire on my Voidstrike Creeping Flames build

nocturne dust
#

I'm saying it's useful on purgatus

ripe obsidian
#

I think I might actually have it on my purg build. Not able to check atm

plucky flax
#

If you use void why are you not using dd?

ripe obsidian
#

...I am using DD?

plucky flax
#

Then that's not a creeping flames spam build.

nocturne dust
#

I use warp siphon on voidstrike chadgryn

plucky flax
#

It's not utilising warp charges for low cd.

ripe obsidian
#

Then I misunderstood you

plucky flax
#

Even on surge with no innate soulblaze stacking.

#

Just via PC and wildfire + creeping flames spam.

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The spread damage is so much.

ripe obsidian
#

Tbh I don't remember what my purg build is offhand

plucky flax
#

Surge right click is also best build.

ripe obsidian
#

I don't enjoy Surge

#

Not arguing its strength. Just not very fun for me

#

I think my purg build is something like this. I am not sure where the last point goes.

#

I messed up the screenshot. Hold on

slate oasis
#

empowered psionics or warp siphon on a bb purgatus build?

nocturne dust
#

I would guess you want the last point in kinetic flayer

nocturne dust
ripe obsidian
#

Fixed

split lance
nocturne dust
# ripe obsidian

Yeah, I would say KF for last point. Warp battery is also good.

ripe obsidian
#

I'd probably do Warp Battery over KF. I have an unreasonable dislike of KF.

split lance
#

research shows that those that dont like KF are bad

nocturne dust
# nocturne dust warp siphon

Empowered Psionics helps BB a lot, but the issue is you still don't want to swap to BB and it's not your main source of damage. You want to use BB as little as possible.

plucky flax
#

On a normal game you do a lot more damage with warp charges and creeping flames spam.

nocturne dust
plucky flax
#

Also burga with cdr aura is a lot better than the crappy elite damage aura.

nocturne dust
#

Still targets bursters tho KEKW_ogryn not on pushes unless you use force sword's extended push

ripe obsidian
nocturne dust
upper sun
#

@lethal lagoon i still wanna do a real one

#

what do you wanna do?

plucky flax
split lance
#

pinky promise

upper sun
#

we said we'd get restarded

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yes atlas

#

yes

nocturne dust
upper sun
#

we couldnt do a normal

#

lets do a maelstrom

plucky flax
#

Yeah and they could have died in 3 or 4s less.

nocturne dust
#

Nah

plucky flax
#

The strength is the ramp up + blaze away.

nocturne dust
#

Sure

#

But purg already applies stacks crazily

#

and things will be dead by the time you hit max, if you even get there

#

and that doesn't take 4 seconds even

plucky flax
#

You don't need to hit max cap of 15(16)

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THATS WHY THE RAMP UP IS THE BETTER

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TO JUST SPAM CREEPING FLAMES

ripe obsidian
#

Why are you yelling? D:

plucky flax
#

I am trying to improve people's damage.

#

But alas.

nocturne dust
#

of course it's more damage

ripe obsidian
nocturne dust
#

but it's the difference between things dying in 2 seconds and 1 second, a player will be fine regardless

plucky flax
# ripe obsidian What is your purg build in full? I am curious.

Brand new hotfix today addressed Kinetic Flayer proccing on chaffs. I think with the fixed Flayer it's a strong pick for Inferno staff for the extra damage boost against elites/specials. Losing warp battery is only a minor cdr reduction and is worth it imo.
Patch 1.5.3
Warren 6-19 · Disruption · Damnation · Hi-Intensity Nurgle-Blessed Shock Troo...

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ripe obsidian
#

Even your video title is yelling

#

But thank you

nocturne dust
#

I wish the elite aura was better tho

#

make it synergize with BB and do extra damage to all non-chaff or something

broken carbon
plucky flax
#

Probably not a good idea.

nocturne dust
#

I mean, I heavily mod my darktide and I have to do double-takes on Chaos' videos KEKW_ogryn

ripe obsidian
nocturne dust
#

Everything is out of place

plucky flax
nocturne dust
plucky flax
#

Just smash left click is enough to stagger rager and shotgunner.

nocturne dust
#

quell-cancelling is a sin.

broken carbon
ripe obsidian
#

Oh, I do already LMB to stagger ragers

broken carbon
#

u were the only channel that’s actually competent

#

that i could think of

plucky flax
#

People still sleep on stealth loner martyrdom combat axe build for whatever reason.

nocturne dust
#

Martyrdom is still my favorite keystone.

plucky flax
#

They all run chastise.

plucky flax
broken carbon
ripe obsidian
#

I mean, I'm not terrible at the game. I play more or less exclusively HISTG and usually am top or 2nd on the leaderboard for most metrics.

plucky flax
#

It's stinky in a way that it's too OP.

plucky flax
#

I literally can't lose with that build.

broken carbon
#

not only is chastise strong but it’s also very fun

plucky flax
#

Just stealth and ress. whatthefuck_heresy

broken carbon
plucky flax
#

(Unless I am trapped or dogged and team don't save)

broken carbon
#

i wouldn’t get disabled

#

but yk

#

that’s just me

plucky flax
#

Well I am not pro like you.

#

I only play sedition.

nocturne dust
#

Just don't lose and you'll always win

broken carbon
#

path has manifested

buoyant maple
broken carbon
#

i’d sense that

#

and dodge it

#

so

#

yk

#

i’m just cool like that

nocturne dust
broken carbon
#

yk

nocturne dust
#

tzeentch-tech

plucky flax
ripe obsidian
#

Is Empathic Evasion good for Purg? I guess you're critting a ton just due to number of enemies hit, so lots of uptime. I would be dropping Soulstealer for it.

plucky flax
#

I miss that axe the push attack is so nice.

plucky flax
#

They need to do something with cleave target stat so I can use another blessing other than BM on antax.

broken carbon
plucky flax
#

No it's an angle but very flat.

#

Super fast and a lot more damage than rashad.

#

Rashad is the horizontal one.

#

And the special attack is ultra based.

#

Top 3 special attack in game.

broken carbon
#

considering it

#

like

#

bonks them

#

with the side of the axe

nocturne dust
plucky flax
#

Yeah it uses the flat of the axe.

broken carbon
#

on a weak spot

plucky flax
#

Yeah it's same as basic shovel.

#

Just a quicks tab forward.

#

It's so nice.

broken carbon
plucky flax
#

Rashad does more damage though especially with heavy spam.

broken carbon
#

or does it just have a really high stagger value

nocturne dust
#

I do like the Antax special

plucky flax
#

The min maxer in me force me to play rashad even though I prefer antax. SadgeCry

plucky flax
broken carbon
#

fair

plucky flax
#

But it's strong enough to stagger crusher on a special headshot.

broken carbon
#

yah

plucky flax
#

Or rager out of their combo even on non headshot.

broken carbon
#

doesn’t even have to hit the head

#

push attack does too

plucky flax
#

I don't touch doo doo tacaxe.

broken carbon
nocturne dust
#

Tacaxe is funny tho

broken carbon
#

it’s also surprisingly good

plucky flax
#

I can only play it on zealot.

#

Via melee damage boost.

broken carbon
#

yah true

plucky flax
#

On anything else it's just so weak.

nocturne dust
#

Slap a crusher with a billion weak little chops

plucky flax
#

Combat axe is both easier to play and do way more damage.

#

Just light spam to win.

broken carbon
#

idek

#

a very long time

plucky flax
#

You haven't played with ForTheMaster.

nocturne dust
#

Force Axe when

broken carbon
nocturne dust
#

I wish psyker had more ways to generate toughness in melee so they could better use normal melee weapons

slate oasis
lethal lagoon
#

@split lance

upper sun
#

all me

plucky flax
#

Or if I know there's a burster coming.

#

Use lmb to push it away.

lethal lagoon
broken carbon
plucky flax
broken carbon
#

you’ve never played with me then…

plucky flax
#

Are you EU?

split lance
broken carbon
split lance
#

@lethal lagoon @ me when ur back

plucky flax
plucky flax
strong gulch
#

It was probably me on zealot. I throw every game.

radiant frigate
#

also crits are per attack rather than per enemy hit

lethal lagoon
strong gulch
#

Yes EE is great on purg.

lethal lagoon
#

Wat we playin?

plucky flax
split lance
plucky flax
#

If you struggle though definitely keep soulstealer.

strong gulch
#

Purg is limited by range and not cleave. As long as you have a few target to hit, RMB on purg can still fill your toughness bar with just mettle. Only 2 targets and you're kinda forked.

near drift
#

too much on the blaze trauma train recently sorry purg

strong gulch
#

Mettle nerf hurts the most on fire trauma. I'm still not over it.

near drift
#

I managed to fit souldrinker on my setup which is a good compensator

#

did mettle get a forced cooldown between procs or something

strong gulch
#

It used to be on hit. Now mettle is per attack.

near drift
#

Ahh yeah I can why that hurts trauma the most

plucky flax
#

When I go super try hard i play surge without soulstealer and use KF instead.

strong gulch
#

ye

vernal blaze
#

is uncanny value on deimos really still that high

zinc phoenix
vernal blaze
#

id imagine h2 knocking crushers on their ass for like 6 full seconds would be enough crusher management to justify swapping to another blessing full time

buoyant maple
#

u can kinda cope with riposte + precog tho since it's just gonna be bad vs horde no matter what

vernal blaze
#

i guess im really just better off not being a pussy and making 2 or 3 force sword dupes instead of trying to juggle between the types

#

sigh

lethal lagoon
vernal blaze
#

did someone make a video on the silly surge m1 spam build

#

been seeing a lot of people using it recently

austere warren
#

Kinetic deflection is nuts. I'm a fool

#

I don't actually have to respect shit

near drift
jovial juniper
#

It's peak

austere warren
#

Is claw good for anything that isn't parry behavior?

#

I genuinely hate that melee.

prime elk
austere warren
#

That can change though, I'm su4e.

jovial juniper
#

Parry is their gimmick yeah

strong gulch
jovial juniper
#

The alternative for dclaw is building impact with Skullcrusher
However
It feels so Sitgryn

austere warren
#

If it was at least decent at shredding trash mobs in any way that stood out enough for me, I'd consider it.

prime elk
#

Yah wished it had a bit better anti horde damage

austere warren
#

My issue with it like anything else is when I need to be genuinely fighting against myself in order to accomplish what I'm trying to do. I don't need to top scoreboard, i just need to be able to pull off my nonsense.

#

If it's something I can work with it, I'm in there.

nocturne dust
coarse abyss
#

is revolver psyker a thing? I played with a guy today who was running it today? He went on about it like it's its own thing.

royal falcon
#

I'd imagine that's something for a scrier's gaze build

vernal blaze
#

can we please let bb prioritize elites and specials over bosses and random gunners

#

xd

#

just watched my bb right click bounce between at least 6 different targets within a tiny range of camera movement before landing on the flamer that was seconds away from burning us to death

#

how cool

upper sun
#

@split lance@lethal lagoon are you guys still going?

coarse abyss
upper sun
#

doesnt matter

#

i didnt get my materials i cant finish working

lethal lagoon
#

I need to eat, so I can play in like 50 mins

upper sun
#

what are you eating a horse?

#

u need to meal prep

lethal lagoon
#

I ordered food, but it'll be here mid-game if we play

upper sun
#

imagine ordering

#

i COOK

plucky flax
#

Just starve.

nocturne dust
#

No rations until you run at least 6 suicidal missions angymorrow

remote shadow
#

Am I missing something or am I doomed to having a golden orb over my Psyker's Masteries tab until the Emperor stands up?

nocturne dust
#

The annoying orb notification for surge is eternal.

plucky flax
#

Surge is just too OP.

#

The hidden blessing is always baked in.

jovial juniper
#

That orb is the emperor himself telling you to use surge

austere warren
coarse abyss
nocturne dust
#

gunkers angymorrow

coarse abyss
plucky flax
#

Hello pepesurrender

austere warren
#

Basically, you have a lot of talents on the right side of psyker that work really well in builds prioritizing weak spot damage. Other ranged options like the heavy laspistol, recon lasgun, infantry lasgun and infantry autogun all have their own individual merit as tools to fuel scrier's gaze and disrupt destiny. All you need to really know about those in summary is that they ramp your weak spot ,critical hit and finesse damage (crit and weak spot), further and reward that consistency with more precise guns.

austere warren
#

So, with a heavy-hitting gun like the revolver, you basically are walking around with a gun that shoots bullets cosplaying as a railcannon.

formal harness
#

meal prepping is for the weak, cook fresh shit every day

royal falcon
#

i STARVE

nocturne dust
austere warren
pulsar hazel
#

Revolver honestly isn't that bad atm. It used to be a meme pick back when the electric staff (I forgot what fartshart renamed it to) was more consistent. I do think it performs better on Vet though due to weapon specialist, Dead Shot, reload buffs etc. Scriers Gaze benefits more sustained DPS precision weapons like laspis

plucky flax
pulsar hazel
#

You'll still outperform Vet users since the average Vet player huffs galaxy gas before playing auric.

austere warren
#

Weak vet.

formal harness
nocturne dust
austere warren
austere warren
pulsar hazel
austere warren
#

The flavor of gunkyr is too cool.

pulsar hazel
#

ohh that's what y'all meant by gunkyr

austere warren
#

Yeah, gun psyker.

pulsar hazel
#

I thought y'all said gunker which some people call gun ogryn

#

wait why do people call it gunker...

austere warren
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

coarse abyss
austere warren
#

I don't know shit about warhammer

pulsar hazel
#

too much galaxy gas in my veins

radiant frigate
#

and gross

pulsar hazel
#

goonkyr

austere warren
#

Something something, xeno xenophobia, something something unwashed emperor, something something waugh or whatever.

jovial juniper
#

Gun Ogryn is usually
Gungryn
Gunlugger

pulsar hazel
#

I think my brain might've derped

austere warren
#

something something 40k universe fucking sucks to live in.

pulsar hazel
#

why do I still have the "i'm new here" tag i've been here for like a month on this account

#

😭

austere warren
#

Might be post count related.

pulsar hazel
#

maybe

radiant frigate
#

because when i see gunker

pulsar hazel
#

but I yap so much

pulsar hazel
#

whati sthat thing

radiant frigate
#

a gunker

pulsar hazel
#

I can't make sense of it

radiant frigate
#

it throws gunk

pulsar hazel
#

ohh

swift prawn
#

what are dump stats on blaze sword and surge staff?