psyker-class

[late sapphire]

which one?

any is fine, really

[fiery wigeon]

obscurus is not really fine

[late sapphire]

See if you can lean into melee a bit more and use the revolver as a qualified secondary weapon

[light solstice]

this one

[fiery wigeon]

the other two are much better

[sweet beacon]

was the moebian 21st modifier temp?

[potent echo]

Melee assail plus revolver

[fiery wigeon]

illisi good crowd clearer

[potent echo]

Spending revolver on shooters is horrendous

[late sapphire]

Yeah assail does a good job at mid range soft targets, too

Particularly if you take Warp Splitting

[fiery wigeon]

psykinetic aura tho

[potent echo]

Meh

[late sapphire]

You might want to change some of the perks n blessings when you can

[fiery wigeon]

definitely not meh

[potent echo]

Just wait for your cd

[light solstice]

to what?

[fiery wigeon]

it makes everyone elses cooldowns fast as fuck too though

i just dont feel right not taking it but man i do love assail

[late sapphire]

You can check out the atheneum in the pins it gives some intuition on what is good

[light solstice]

currently this is my build.
all that is hidden is that gaze has warp speed.
not maxxed out yet obviously

[late sapphire]

The usual rec is + flak % + maniac % perks and uncanny strike and slaughterer blessings

[late sapphire]

You should check out the talents to the right below assail, melee attack speed and extra cleave, and consider the crit aura

If you are low level though, a lot of the weapons will kinda suck, psyker will kinda suck in general

[fiery wigeon]

gaming

[light solstice]

I see

i have a level 30 zelot i started the game with

[fiery wigeon]

the leveling process is not fun

[light solstice]

and a level 25 vet i played before

with the new update i wanted to level pycker

partly as i was working on a few things and started drawing a lot of 40k stuff

[fiery wigeon]

i really wish the weapon stat system didnt exist primarily because the way it scales off of player level completely cripples new players

[light solstice]

witch hat pcykic hood never

[fiery wigeon]

oh man

thatd be cool

[light solstice]

I want to try out playing hersy for more exp so i can get past the grind faster.
but also
fuck i feel so weak.
i feel like i have very limited options

[fiery wigeon]

you ARE weak

pisses me off so much

[light solstice]

It would be better if you could swap your talents out at the start

even if you can upgrade them

[atomic swan]

find the mission has modifier
it boosts XP better than difficulty

[fiery wigeon]

malice maelstroms also have like twice the exp of normal malice

[light solstice]

I don't think i can do a maelstrom rn

[atomic swan]

or just check which one has the best XP combination

[light solstice]

is there a list i can look at for what modifiers do?

[strong gulch]

If you click on the mission, there should be a summary of the mission in the top right corner with a modifier description attached at the bottom of that summary.

[fiery stratus]

This is a certified hood classic

[flint pawn]

A small mind is a tidy mind

[plucky flax]

Interesting build.

[fiery wigeon]

g am ing

[brazen rampart]

Why would you take the cdr aura over the crit chance aura, tho?

[fiery wigeon]

cuz its better

[brazen rampart]

For scrier's?

Nah.

[fiery wigeon]

ye

either works though

[ripe obsidian]

Eh. Revolver is for killing whatever you don't want to be around anymore. Elites, specials, that random shooter that broke your toughness. There's so much ammo in this game that unless you have three Gunlugger Ogryns magdumping into anything that moves, you won't run out using the revolver for elites/specials.

[fiery wigeon]

have more scriers uptime to get more crits from that

[late sapphire]

That's silly

[fiery wigeon]

theyre not entirely wrong

[late sapphire]

Also warp unbound is still bugged 😢

[fiery wigeon]

ive a feeling warp unbound is gonna be one of those things that never works properly

ive never had ammo issues with revolver beyond refilling the cylinder

but like i also rush up to melee everything with a pulse

fuckers still breathing deimos'll fix that

[late sapphire]

Exploded on the transition between sg and lingering while voidstriking

Obviously everyone else then ran off and immediately died

[fiery wigeon]

i do not trust warp unbound whatsoever

[late sapphire]

30s after i went down the match ended...

[ripe obsidian]

Revolver is my primary gun for Zealot and Veteran (without Survivalist, so no ammo regen) in Auric HISTG. So long as you get headshots and/or crits, nothing survives more than 2 shots. Sure, it's better to use melee when possible, but you don't need to be stingy with ammo

[fiery wigeon]

which is a shame cuz in theory its incredibly powerful

[plucky flax]

But have you tried bistol?

[potent echo]

Bistol good

[fiery wigeon]

bistol funny

[late sapphire]

I run it on zealot too, but i imagine we are both good enough at the game we don't just shoot every elite with revo

[potent echo]

I run surgical+DA bistol

[late sapphire]

Also also

[ripe obsidian]

Yes. Bistol Grenadier Veteran is silly.

[late sapphire]

Saw a smiker today who didn't have perilous combustion OR flame shriek

Told him he should check out those talents & he asked me to kill myself

[potent echo]

That's a SMHker

[late sapphire]

Love this game

[plucky flax]

Bistol supremecy

[potent echo]

Imagine talking to the average pub

[ripe obsidian]

Fair. I definitely dash-slide toward elites when possible

[potent echo]

Also I would like to report a bug, chainaxe rev does not give DD stacks

[ripe obsidian]

Only reason to talk in pubs is to RP

[potent echo]

I only type in uwu

[ripe obsidian]

I make jokes about party composition, such as feeling unsafe as a lone psyker with three zealots

[plucky flax]

I like playing as solo psyker.

No one crying about soulblaze stealing.

[potent echo]

Do people actually complain about that

[plucky flax]

Not really but sometimes people use creeping flames at low peril to apply the soulblaze stacks first even when not using burga.

Mild annoyance anyway.

[ripe obsidian]

Why would you apply soulblaze at low peril...?

That's silly.

[potent echo]

Dummy playstyle

Also no debuff mod

[plucky flax]

You can just spam it with burgatus.

But other staves you should almost always use it at above 84 unless you need the stagger.

[ripe obsidian]

What is burgatus here? Don't know that build

And yeah, I know to use it over 84. With purg, I mostly use it to stagger or push soulblaze stacks over the soft cap on monstrosities

[potent echo]

Burgertus purgatus inferno

[plucky flax]

I got over 300k damage in 9 mins last time I used it in train

Blaze away op man

[ripe obsidian]

I had something like 280k in 8.5 minutes today with blaze away purg

[potent echo]

Train annoyances 1, people who turn the valve to close the door immediately instead of after first minigame

[ripe obsidian]

Someone locked me and the veteran out today by doing that.

[potent echo]

Gaming

Could you climb over the though? Not sure

[ripe obsidian]

I didn't really have time to try

Too many enemies coming at us

[potent echo]

It's ogee

[ripe obsidian]

Purg gameplay is "turn off brain, relax and look at pretty lights"

Voidstrike is for when I want to pay more attention

[restive slate]

Then you forget its a Sniper Spam mission

[sweet beacon]

uhh what does "player abilties report" stand for in power DI?

[sweet beacon]

then it becomes turn off brain, relax and look at pretty lights and sometimes pop heads

[restive slate]

Aye

[light solstice]

i don't see it

[fiery stratus]

@light solstice its that part that says low intensity hunting grounds, tells you theres hounds in the area and theres fewer normal troops

[light solstice]

what about the exp bonus

[quartz barn]

Quickplay bonusses are shown in the top left corner

[ripe obsidian]

Purg without brain burst in pubs is a good way to get bullied by specials

[fiery stratus]

The absolute state of auric with randoms

[ripe obsidian]

It has been tough lately

[light solstice]

what is the point of exp past level 30?

[potent echo]

Pride

[ripe obsidian]

Number go up

[split lance]

purg works just fine without KF

KF and KD are interchangable on purg build

[potent echo]

I played trauma BR and I was literally soloing all the ranged engagements with unmodified BR

[ripe obsidian]

KF? Kinetic flayer? I never use that

[potent echo]

The other psyker was purg smite and didn't know what to do guh

Playing purg and not diving enemies in cover smh

[split lance]

Idk what BR mean s

[split lance]

wtf

[flint pawn]

Brain Rupture

[split lance]

then how bad are you on purg

[ripe obsidian]

???

[split lance]

oh lol

[ripe obsidian]

Kinetic flayer sucks

[split lance]

KF is broken

literally OP

[flint pawn]

at least I assume that's what they mean, don't know of another Psyker perk called BR

[ripe obsidian]

One brain burst every 15 seconds?

That's so weak

[restive slate]

How so?

[late sapphire]

Lets you roughly judge how good a player is

I'll pay extra attention to a level 37 player but assume a level 300 can handle himself

[radiant frigate]

free headsplosion on key targets

it good

potential lifesaver

[late sapphire]

Meticulously programmed to only trigger on enemies that already are almost dead

[ripe obsidian]

It's really not good. It's unreliable at best

[split lance]

on surge youll get 2 kills on one rmb, 1 tap mutants, on purg, literally every 15sec ur getting the proc

[split lance]

i use it on literally every build, so does atlas

agent chaos only runs it on Purg like a nerd

[ripe obsidian]

Okay? And Pygex says it's useless. We can all drop names.

[radiant frigate]

real (i have never used it)

[split lance]

pygex sucks

[restive slate]

Whoa

[split lance]

(idk who that is, before you white knight)

[ripe obsidian]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959

[radiant frigate]

kat thinks it's okay and is having a crisis of faith regarding the class

[restive slate]

Pygex is a big name

[late sapphire]

i dont like kinetic flayer

particularly on surge, it usually procs on elites you're already blasting

So it only has values vs maulers and larger

On purg maybe

[restive slate]

Will KF trigger when purg-ing a Bulwark shield?

[late sapphire]

Yknow you'll throw a fully charged secondary at a shotgunner and then kf procs and it dies half a second earlier wow how cool

[ripe obsidian]

Duelling Sword is more reliable for killing carapace enemies with purg than Kinetic Flayer

[radiant frigate]

kf big value on burster

[late sapphire]

Yeah and that's the main downside

[strong gulch]

The guide he writes is still being updated. He said it would take weeks.

[late sapphire]

I like pushing bursters with my lightning

I don't like bursters exploding in my face because of kf

[strong gulch]

Also Pygex is not the end all be all.

[strong gulch]

Accidental push attack oopsies.

[restive slate]

Anyone advocates Duelling Sword MK 2 and 5?

[late sapphire]

Pygex has done the community a great service by writing the guide but writing a guide doesn't make you the best player

[ripe obsidian]

I never said he was?

[late sapphire]

mk2 is cool

[radiant frigate]

does he still recommend toughness regen speed on curios

[late sapphire]

mk5 is kinda mid but also cool

[restive slate]

Wait KF triggers on push attacks too??

[late sapphire]

mk4 is objectively the best dueling sword for single target damage purposes but the others are still good

[radiant frigate]

if it does damage it can trigger

[strong gulch]

Pygex does a lot of work so that we have a comprehensive guide and a lot of info.

[ripe obsidian]

Not sure. I think the Ogrynomicon does, though

[split lance]

obviously

[strong gulch]

I never said you said that.

[split lance]

but a lucky procc is a lucky procc

[strong gulch]

Yes. Push attack does damage if it connects.

[restive slate]

Nuts

[split lance]

and considering most weapons do multiple hits of damage on one hit,

[late sapphire]

kf is ideally what 2000 damage per 15s

[split lance]

thats a lot of KF proccs

[radiant frigate]

you should really be more careful with those stray thoughts

[quartz barn]

Tbf what would you put on curios otherwise

[late sapphire]

it is quite considerable if it reliably procced

[quartz barn]

I guess abil regen, toughness and a gunner def

[late sapphire]

But compared to any other output option it's not impressive

I'd put it at a few % extra damage

[split lance]

tbf on psyker you dont need toughness regen

shit comes back instantly

so long as you can get a kill

[late sapphire]

Extra dockets

[radiant frigate]

currently i run with 2x gunner 2x sniper 2x corruption 3x toughness

[split lance]

i used to run that for a very long time

[restive slate]

Kinda need that now, I went from millionaire to bankrupt after returning on this update

[split lance]

but now i dont need em

god i love KF

makes me tingle and sparkle inside

[late sapphire]

Anyone know if powerdi can be used for damage breakdowns by source?

[restive slate]

Have you checked for lumps?

[late sapphire]

I don't like the ranged melee thing i want assail damage and kf damage stats and the like

[split lance]

those are my boobs

[strong gulch]

KF is really nice when it saves my hide. It does FEEL really nice now. Someone was saying that it's not a humongous damage boost but is still a boost demending on the build.

I haven't number crunched, but I'm def using it on tauma and purg.

[restive slate]

All 6 of them??

[late sapphire]

I should do a kf only run

[split lance]

um no the other 4 are actually siamese twins

[radiant frigate]

stop asking questions

[late sapphire]

kinetic flayer and push

[split lance]

kf + purg = 🤯

[strong gulch]

push attack

[restive slate]

What are you, keep of secret? Ah...

[split lance]

omg

i needa get a KF procc on staff push

[radiant frigate]

KF is ideal for staff bash

[strong gulch]

bash maxxing

[radiant frigate]

actual melee force staff when?

[strong gulch]

charged strikes

[radiant frigate]

i want to channel my inner monk

or a melee weapon that is just Iron Arm

big psyker punches

what if we just had a reverse trauma staff

with melee attacks as primary and the circle as a special

oh nvm that's just sienna scythe

[restive slate]

Psyker Melee Biomancer would be fun

Basically I CAST FIST moment

[radiant frigate]

i would like to cast sword

[restive slate]

Imagine if new staff is a Spear and is a more powerful boss killer version of Assail

[nocturne dust]

Force Javelin

[light solstice]

I feel like i am not getting what pycker is supposed to do

[echo root]

High damage + CC with no ammo requirement.

[light solstice]

I see

i guess but i don't know where to postion myself

with vet and zelot i got it and i felt like i had tools to survive and deal with my role

[echo root]

Stay with your team, let the zealot run around alone.

[light solstice]

that's been hard

it feels like the last few rounds have been

randoms

[echo root]

I mean you can run around alone, but it requires you to be confident + have a good setup

[light solstice]

I am playing quick matches

[echo root]

Just find the player that looks the most competent and follow them blindly.

[runic kiln]

wait warpsplitting works on assail?

dope

[strong gulch]

You don't even need much peril for it start benefitting assail too.

[flat nexus]

Does it benifit m1 surge staff?

[strong gulch]

No

Sadge

[flat nexus]

Agreed, i thought i could make horde clear better

[light solstice]

I call this build
"please i don't want to die from a stray bullet at level 10"

[strong gulch]

Seems like the attack needs to have some cleave on its own to get any meaningful difference with warp splitting.

[potent echo]

Nah...

Maybe

I used it on trauma and it's so bad

Purg has alot more hits though

[quartz barn]

You dont use a blitz on trauma, big dmg loss

Just shriek vs enemies outside of trauma range and always walk forward

[split lance]

On trauma it’s cracked wym

[restive slate]

Heck the foundation is already there, make it happen FS!

[restive slate]

If there's a Sniper, better to BB or Assail?

Oh wait lmb exists

Carry on

[runic kiln]

if im running bb i just bb and hide then no need to risk getting shot from the netcode issue lmao

[restive slate]

How's bb spam damage vs bosses?

[runic kiln]

pr good but not amazing

[restive slate]

Does it pale compared to the new meta lmb surge blessing spam?

[runic kiln]

i run it with double shield + fast pops on ult usage

[restive slate]

Alright I want to know your shield build, never ran shield in the past and I want its cosmetic haha

[runic kiln]

im a match rn

tag me again in 20m

[quartz barn]

I have wildfire for that

Unironically dont see snipers unless theyre chilling after an elevator

But uh, i have bb as pathing filler

Because all soulblaze perks are on the left

[split lance]

I genuinely don’t understand lmb surge surge

Like how is it even a little better than rmb

[restive slate]

Lotsa crits, lotsa big burst damage

But no stagger from rmb so not 100% reliable imo, great for boss damage tho

[split lance]

That’s just rmb tho? I only ever use lmb on a far away horde or fodder

I’ve never on a boss. Seems to do less dmg

[barren lintel]

its meant to be strong consistent dmg, but it has strong weaknesses, its best if you have a strong front line and people to handle the horde, but the moment you have to fight solo, it falls apart.

If a pox gasser throws a single bomb into a horde, it loses a massive amount of strength. Its a Pyskarium build that ends up falling apart under pressure

[split lance]

h

Ah

Makes sense

[potent echo]

Anything without infinite cleave better have decent adms across the board

[nocturne dust]

Nonsense

Lmb is better because gunker wanted to play with staves

[barren lintel]

watched a guy try it during an auric, he was extremely heavy, and the moment he was the only one left, he immediately turned into meat paste and started blaming everyone else because he didnt have the ability to hit the dogs behind the horde

[potent echo]

Did he also run scriers lol

The ultimate fair weather build

[barren lintel]

nope, he had shout

shouted, the horde got immediately back up due to pox gas, and just ate him

[potent echo]

Shout should be slightly better but dogs are chill against burning

Ah rip

[nocturne dust]

Also, lmb outputs better damage than rmb on surge... provided you never miss a weakpoint or quell cancel

[potent echo]

How about the lmb talents

[nocturne dust]

They exist

[potent echo]

Sad

[nocturne dust]

I wish they didn't but they do

[potent echo]

I can only see the warp debuff one on purgy

[nocturne dust]

Rework that little alcove Fatshark

[potent echo]

The channel into bubble is so shid lmao

Unless they make beam staff one day

Then it will be broken

But also wield speed on staff like who cares

[nocturne dust]

Idk why the staff side got swap speed when gunker swaps way more

[potent echo]

Surge blitz cancel I guess

[nocturne dust]

why is souldrinker where swap speed should be (if swap speed has to exist at all)

[potent echo]

But also like ehh

True

[split lance]

I don’t play defensive. I couldn’t do this

[strong gulch]

Why are there 2 branching nodes on the left and three on the right in addition to swap speed existing.

[nocturne dust]

I mean, even if you don't play defensively, lmb spam works. I don't love that it does, but it's not bad that it does imo. In fact, lmb spam lets you be aggressive by suppressing everything in front of you

[limpid sonnet]

haven't tried psyker yet and I wanna learn the gun build.

[strong gulch]

Ye. That was the case even before lmb nodes.

[nocturne dust]

Shame.

[limpid sonnet]

sadge, doing veteran first

[nocturne dust]

Using a gun on the only class that can do without

[barren lintel]

one thing people will learn in time...
Never trust anything you build without proper testing in a real game in a bad situation, because Fatshark is really weird with how it makes its games

people who played Vermintide 2 on release will know real quick...things dont work the way you think they will

[nocturne dust]

To be fair, I don't think that's great advice because some builds can prevent bad situations from happening entirely.

[runic kiln]

psyker gun build is entirely focused on +crit chance and +weakspot damage basically, works really well when you get used to all the mechanics involved and especially the dodging and avoiding enemies (you usually pair this with a fast/weakspot melee weapon) but you try SO HARD to do with guns what others can do with normal builds

[limpid sonnet]

I see

[plucky flax]

I am defensive and slow chill player.

[barren lintel]

you can prevent bad situations from happening by just knowing your build and applying it to the situation. Most bad situations happen because of panic more than anything else (that or an infiltrate zealot/vet)

[nocturne dust]

Like Bubble often gets discounted because it's purely defensive, but it does a ton of stuff for the group that is extremely powerful and all of them are preventative

[nocturne dust]

I disagree, most bad situations happen because the director is a monkey with a button that says 'spawn more'

[sturdy tendon]

Tbh the problem with bubble is when you really need it, it gets demolished in like 5 seconds to 10 gunners and 3 snipers

[barren lintel]

Yup..

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, I do wish bubble held against gunners better

[barren lintel]

Offense is the best defense in this game

[native maple]

gotta love shield bubbles with limited health

[sturdy tendon]

And shriek can go through walls

[native maple]

at the very least it still blocks against trappers and flamers if I remember correctly

[barren lintel]

The slower you go, the more the director is going to punish you

[nocturne dust]

Hard disagree

[runic kiln]

this is what i run with my brainburst + shield build. melee is kind of whatever you wanna horde kill with when you get overwhelmed but i rarely use it. voidstrike is usually enough to make sure they dont get near you, and when you kill elites you can just chain brBurst to keep smoking them. Same thing with bosses, just drop a shield and headpop til you hit 100%, quell a lil and keep going.

its a fun build and lets me kind of play as a "jack of all trades" which is what i like. works for me on damnation/aurics so just change and swap out what you like, same as any other build 😛

[barren lintel]

Your choice

[nocturne dust]

Damage is important, but you don't clutch off damage and there's a reason so many take defensive nodes like KD and Zealot's invincibility.

[split lance]

[ivory path]

First time doing over 1M damage

[barren lintel]

That's meant to keep you going, everything is meant to keep you going and moving

[nocturne dust]

Sure

[barren lintel]

You'll learn one day, happens to everyone.

[glossy escarp]

What mod is that? Looks really nice

[runic kiln]

i love running bubble on the pox gas missions and just fuckin ignoring the pox gas cause bubble toughness regen negates it

[nocturne dust]

Isn't the director supposed to ease off if you take long? I say supposed because director is broken

[barren lintel]

? No

[ivory path]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/281 Its nice, but I might suggest keeping the scoreboard mod too because it takes a second to open power DI

[glossy escarp]

In V2 it also sics the hounds on you if you linger too long

[ivory path]

So if you want to check damage real quick while in game youll probably get yourself killed

[glossy escarp]

Thanks!

[nocturne dust]

I mean, if you take too long the director will try to kill you but if you push too hard, also the director will try to kill you

[ivory path]

One upside of it is im pretty sure it keeps your stats even if you DC, which scoreboard doesnt

[glossy escarp]

That's mostly if one or two people push way ahead of the core team though afaik

Not if the team moves quickly as a unit

[barren lintel]

It's meant to respond to the scenario. The longer you take, the worse it gets. Because it has a set number of Elites it can throw at your at a time but it has unlimited usage of specialists.

Specialists are meant to slow you down so you linger which allows it to spawn more events and elite at you so it can waste your resources.

You can only gain by moving forward and progress through the map, but if you are too spread or take too long it can just keep you there forever

[glossy escarp]

It's meant to punish rushers and stragglers

[nocturne dust]

resources

Imagine having those

Psyker gaming

[echo root]

Psyker gaming

[barren lintel]

Some maps, especially hourglass, have some of the nastiest areas in the game, that can keep you there indefinitely

[split lance]

I looked up lmb build. Its basically just “its lmb but we’re gonna use smite 98% of the time)

[barren lintel]

Which just makes some fights worse

[split lance]

I’m trying to kill the director

[nocturne dust]

Also, that doesn't sound like the director is punishing you for going slow. You only need to keep your head above water.

[split lance]

Yea I skipped through the video stopping randomly

[barren lintel]

That's how the director has always been, ever since beta. I'm not saying go knife lightning speed, I'm saying that if the team isn't moving to the next area and hunkering down in a single location, then it's going to punish you for that because that's what it wants to do

[split lance]

It’s just smite

Over and over

[barren lintel]

The director isn't intelligent, it's a button masher

[flat nexus]

Keep in mind this will lag your game, you can set it to cycle 100 but that makes it in accurate compare to the oven proof scoreboard modifier

[light solstice]

what armor class are ragers?

[flat nexus]

Flak or maniac depending o nwhich one

[split lance]

Make it mash more buttons my maels have been dead. Less than 2mil dmg total

[barren lintel]

Maniac, zerkers are flak

[nocturne dust]

Sure, but that doesn't really make damage super valuable. Damage is super valuable because 99% of the game's objectives involves killing things, and damage is the only way to do that if you don't have a ledge nearby.

[light solstice]

thinking about what to add to this sword

[flat nexus]

I only know mk 6 knifes sorry i dont know any other weapons, so probably not best to ask me chief

[split lance]

I run slaughterer and deflect

[runic kiln]

make it a deimos and we are in business

[split lance]

Perk is maniac flak

[flat nexus]

M1 spam ?

[barren lintel]

Isn't saying that damage is involved in 99% of the objective not super valuable just denial then.

If you don't want to do damage, that's your choice, but understand that someone will have to carry your weight because you won't do it and if they can't, then the next person does until the pressure is too much

[split lance]

Flak unyielding is nice too

[runic kiln]

why would i spam

c:

[light solstice]

my current build is all about survivability
I am not max level yet so right now my game plan is:
assail spam
hit people with sword
gain toughness if not at max
stay by my freinds

[potent echo]

Who's dumping damage now

[nocturne dust]

No? I just said damage is super valuable so idk what you're on about.

[barren lintel]

Damage also isn't offense, offense is aggression and pushing through a blockade

[flat nexus]

@runic kiln

[split lance]

Assail will carry you in pretty much anything not auric damn

[barren lintel]

Offense is the best defense, not damage

[barren lintel]

I guess you're just arguing with yourself then

[runic kiln]

and then you juse use assail to buff melee damage 😄

[light solstice]

I know but i still get corrned by ragers a lot so i want to deal with them fast if i can

or faster

rather

well not a lot but when i am cornered it's by them

[nocturne dust]

Lol, no.

[potent echo]

Trauma staff is an instant solution

[runic kiln]

saber headshots with +peril=+damag ezpz

[potent echo]

Also blocking

Also duellingsword special

[nocturne dust]

I disagree with this

[runic kiln]

? im not an ogryn

[split lance]

If we do some quick thinking. Most offensive players more than likely going to have most range

[potent echo]

Blocking works very well against ragers

[nocturne dust]

Pushing too hard is a thing

[potent echo]

No matter the class

[runic kiln]

some weapons, such as sabre and axes, special ttack innterups their hitchains if you like them

[nocturne dust]

Not regrouping is how teams die

[light solstice]

I don't have that leveled up yet- and i don't want to slow down my leveling to 30 to do so

[barren lintel]

Mmmm depends, it's more how much their kit functions into a fight

[runic kiln]

also the op strat is just masstag them and backdodge til teammates help 👼

[split lance]

Ds4 would be a better option. What level are you? Ragers shouldn’t really be an issue with assail

[potent echo]

Forceswords push attack also floors them

Illisi special also staggers tbem

There's many solutions

Choose your favorite

[split lance]

Bc assail just reks ragers

[light solstice]

it does not always work for me

they do this combo you can't stagger

[potent echo]

The full push attack

Not just the push

[light solstice]

what do you mean full?

[potent echo]

Hold m1

[split lance]

If it’s not killing then…

[light solstice]

force sword has a special push?

[potent echo]

While blocking

Yes

[light solstice]

wish i knew that before

[split lance]

There is no support. There is only death

[potent echo]

It hits 1 target

[light solstice]

no wonder i was suffering

[potent echo]

But has like 15m range

Opens bulwarks too

[light solstice]

damm

[potent echo]

It won't help vs 5 ragers in your face

You push them before they are in your face

[split lance]

The block + lmb hold?

[light solstice]

yeah understandable but i may be able to get out of the situation

mabye

[barren lintel]

I take inferno shriek because it can just melt through any horde and combo and melt through the worst of it. Plus bb for heavy elites or chain killing gunners in the back.

Build allows to handle any situation but specializes in hordes and melee elite

[potent echo]

Block and dodge backwards is great

[light solstice]

before i thought the force sword had a weird push

[glossy escarp]

9 give or take, at least when I tested

[light solstice]

that didn't work well

[potent echo]

It's very long*

[barren lintel]

I normally average better 800 to 1000 kills per hisg auric so, i kill real good

[nocturne dust]

Can I introduce you to our lord and savior, the parry?

[glossy escarp]

9 meters is still A LOT for a push

[split lance]

Yeah I mean purg shriek is great for everything especially now with kf and blaze away

[potent echo]

Parry doesn't help vs 5 ragers though

[barren lintel]

? No it's always been like that

[split lance]

Only lacks on single target dmg

[potent echo]

You still get hit

Unless you are willing to trade hp

[split lance]

I’m saying it’s even better

[nocturne dust]

Director: "So yeah, I sent 20 billion crushers and bosses down at the same time."

[barren lintel]

Purg has always been that strong, they just... Buffed it for some weird reason

[light solstice]

this is my set up right now

[runic kiln]

force swords also have the double push if you hold it. very strong but stacks peril if you arent careful, can overload

[split lance]

What ya got on inferno rn.

[barren lintel]

Purg melts bosses and shriek with any dueling sword or bb kills crushers easily

[nocturne dust]

BB kills one at a time

Same for dueling sword

[split lance]

KF my beloved

[barren lintel]

So? I kill one at a time very quickly

[light solstice]

I have done nothing with it

i just needed something that would build peril without assail

[split lance]

Do you run EP with purg?????

Or charges

[barren lintel]

Ep

[nocturne dust]

ew

[split lance]

Ew indeed

But at least makes sense now

[barren lintel]

Didn't need warp charges because it doesn't with with purg

If your taking warp charge with purg... Oh boy

[split lance]

It makes purg much better

[barren lintel]

No it's doesn't

[nocturne dust]

.............it does work with purg

[barren lintel]

No it doesn't

[nocturne dust]

yes it does

[light solstice]

what's prug

[nocturne dust]

inferno staff

[split lance]

Brother. You get everything to 26+ stacks in seconds and then everything just drops around you

[light solstice]

oh

[split lance]

Inferno

[barren lintel]

Purg only benefits from power generation, not dmg generation

[devout sluice]

...it's literally meant for purg

[nocturne dust]

[devout sluice]

?

[split lance]

Do you by chance run auric missions?

[barren lintel]

Purgs damage is based on power generation, the better your power generation, the more it grows

[nocturne dust]

Bro doesn't know direct dmg is good on purg due to blaze away

[barren lintel]

Yes?

.... Blaze away is power generation

[devout sluice]

Ok

So lets define

[nocturne dust]

And warp siphon amps it further, it also boosts soulblaze btw

[split lance]

Not running charges on purg with shriek is wild

[barren lintel]

No it doesn't

[devout sluice]

What does power increase actually affect

[split lance]

Literally losing massive amounts of damage for no gain

[barren lintel]

Power effects dmg, cleave, and burn intensity, dmg only effects the direct damage done from the weapon itself.

[nocturne dust]

[split lance]

Actually the gain is killing elites one by one from afar bc you can’t kill em close

[nocturne dust]

Have you.... have you even tested it?

[barren lintel]

Shall i prove it

[light solstice]

so what is good on purg?

i was really focused on the force blade

[split lance]

If I send you a build will you run it for one auric mael.

[devout sluice]

Ok and since purg has irrelevantly high cleave, how does warp dmg, or generic "all damage" not affect stacks

[barren lintel]

Blaze away and nexus

[split lance]

Usually you want a good single target dmg melee

[barren lintel]

I got a better idea, I'll just show you my last auric mael, how about that

[split lance]

Eh

[nocturne dust]

Do it, I'm curious

[devout sluice]

We dont need to see that

[nocturne dust]

I will judge harshly

[devout sluice]

We need proof of how it does not modify stack dmg

For soulblaze

[barren lintel]

Kay

Do that too

[split lance]

Me too

[light solstice]

I have been haveing issues with the game running.
I don't know if it's my end in terms of my pc being bad or that my internet is fucking up.
but i have got disconnected from the server 4 times today

[split lance]

Servers on this game aren’t the best

[light solstice]

anyway it's a lot easier for me right now to just do add clear

so i don't get fucked when the game hitches for a second

[devout sluice]

@barren lintelare you free rn?

[devout sluice]

we can go call here and directly compare

[devout sluice]

beautiful damage

[nocturne dust]

43 minutes, lol

[split lance]

Single target melee bc ur inferno staff should be doing all the ad clear

[split lance]

Brother 43mins…..

[devout sluice]

deimos/obsucrus are
always a goat in that, but had some fun and good performance with chain axe too, duelling sword is no brainer

[nocturne dust]

and look at the ranged damage

[barren lintel]

you dont do auric mael often do you?

[nocturne dust]

It's almost like

[barren lintel]

You do know what those symbols on the auric mael are right?

[nocturne dust]

I do.

[split lance]

I run auric maels with them somewhat often

[devout sluice]

join strike team 2

[light solstice]

how do i look at these stats?

[devout sluice]

im gonna test this shit

[split lance]

I think our longest mission was less than 30min

[nocturne dust]

I'm judging harshly. Posting tons of damage on a 43 minute mission is expected.

[split lance]

You don’t want ur stats looking like that

[light solstice]

it feels like a watergun tbh

[split lance]

lol

[barren lintel]

You have no idea what that mael is do you?

[split lance]

Bc no levels

[nocturne dust]

and we screw around too

[light solstice]

and i don't have the cash to level it atm

[split lance]

I exclusively do maels

[barren lintel]

Then what are thost modifiers

[split lance]

Brother I’m 360 shooting the snipers

[devout sluice]

...

[light solstice]

i'm more concerned with leveling to 30 rn than optimal playing

i just need to get by

[devout sluice]

funny you say that, because the old way of "optimal playing" was levelling to 30 and then actually upgrading stuff you can get then

but now it all depends on your weapon mastery

[split lance]

Better weapons = higher difficulty = more xp = faster to level 30

[barren lintel]

Thats Specilists/Scab faction, no ammo pickups, Mostly Melee. Basically, its maulers, crushers, bulwarks through the entire run...basically, 20 million crushers coming at you

[devout sluice]

higher diff is still locked behind lvl requirenments

[split lance]

Idk I’m a nerd but I’m not a fat neckbeard kinda nerd

Either way

[devout sluice]

without friend to put him there he cant get on auric till 30

[nocturne dust]

isn't that just shock troop gauntlet

[barren lintel]

no

[nocturne dust]

One of the easier maels

[light solstice]

if i want to get better weapons aside from my force sword i'd have to sacrifice a lot of shit and i don't have the cash at the moment

[devout sluice]

you took purgatus on scab only?

[light solstice]

very broke

[devout sluice]

:I

[split lance]

I don’t think I’ve had a mael last that long since I was running rending trauma months ago

[barren lintel]

Yup, and those stats reflect hat

[light solstice]

so i need to get more cash by playing

[split lance]

They sure do bud. They sure do

God I love melee only

Literally my favorite

[nocturne dust]

Lol, that makes it funnier and worse

[devout sluice]

afaik purgatus vs carapce armor is shit

[split lance]

I don’t like it enough to be stuck in it for 43mins but definitely do like it a lot

[barren lintel]

It is very much shit

the other pysker was a Trauma as well

[light solstice]

so weapon stats contribute more to performance in game than your player build and abilites?

at least at this stage

[nocturne dust]

The fact your allies are worse is impressive.

The fact they're that much worse is stunning.

[barren lintel]

Its okay to be passive aggressive when you are wrong, but you should learn to keep your hostility in check

[split lance]

Tbh. Probably coulda gotten more warpfire dmg running charges. Probably would’ve brought mission timer down by 5min lol

[devout sluice]

they both do, but now both are independent, levelling up your character doesnt cost you anything, your resources are meant for upgrading your weapons

[nocturne dust]

Lmao, I wasn't wrong tho

[split lance]

Brother ur trying to flex an almost hour long mission

[barren lintel]

No, you are

[split lance]

That’s not the flex you think it is

[nocturne dust]

#psyker-class message

[devout sluice]

🙏🏻

[barren lintel]

give me one of yours then 🙂

[nocturne dust]

I was 100% correct

[barren lintel]

both of you, give me one of yours in comparrison

[split lance]

You’ve done 20min maels. You should know 43mins is not a flex

[split lance]

Look at my media lol

[barren lintel]

I brought the proof of my ability, now show me yours

[devout sluice]

@barren lintel so you take empowered psionics over warp charge? for what ability

[light solstice]

I was lementing my issues before but then i leveled up my sword from 210 to 380 and suddenly heresy is doable

[split lance]

@nocturne dust we gotta hop in a mael for 43min bro

[nocturne dust]

I'm not at my PC, I'm on a trip. Tren knows this. I can give it to you in a week and you can hold me to that.

[nocturne dust]

Give me a week

[split lance]

lol

No

[devout sluice]

im on pc

[split lance]

I’d die

[devout sluice]

come to strike team 2 vc

[nocturne dust]

😭

[devout sluice]

im genuienly interested Xd

[split lance]

I have ss of missions I’ve done in here

Unfortunately don’t think the timer is there

[nocturne dust]

Still waiting for evidence that warp siphon doesn't affect soulblaze

[split lance]

I’d have to wait till morning

[nocturne dust]

You can just idle in the spawn for a week, smh my head

[barren lintel]

not what I said

I said Purg benefits from Power Generation, not damage generation, again you are arguing with yourself

[light solstice]

I looked at my other characters and realized what my issue was before.
My problem wasn't me (nessarily) but more that i was hitting enemies with a pool noddle and was an anchor on my team as i did no damage

Didn't realize how important the number was till now

[nocturne dust]

#psyker-class message

#psyker-class message <-- Me

[barren lintel]

Ah I did say that, yes I am incorrect on that one, however, I do stand by that power generation is more benefifical in the end

[nocturne dust]

Well, sure, power generation is always more beneficial because it's damage + some

unless the damage boost is larger than the power boost

[barren lintel]

But the dmg boost gain benefits with what case then, especially considering how much you are required to give up into warp charges

[nocturne dust]

Not much? EP buffs BB, which isn't your main thing anyway and should be pulled out rarely. Soulblaze ticks away even on bosses, and you can deal with crushers with a melee. BB's main use is out-of-reach snipers which shouldn't require EP (unless you're on a sniper modifier, but I don't recommend trying to use BB, even EP BB, for that, lol)

[glossy escarp]

In my eyes warp charges are the clear winner if you need more ult uptime and EP is the clear choice if you need a more reliably effective blitz

Not that complicated

[barren lintel]

This is coming from someone, when I started this, I was 100% in warp charges as my main build FOR Pysker Purg, that was my baby, however, the benefit gained from going empowered handled situations in a wider array and provided much more overall clear in more multitiudes of situations, that being in dealing with crushers, bulwarks, and bosses

[nocturne dust]

Purg deals with bulwarks tho

and bosses

[late sapphire]

1.1mil at 43min is even worse for scab melee mael

Because total hp is way higher there

[nocturne dust]

You want to switch to a weapon with uncanny for bosses

[barren lintel]

thats with purg though

[nocturne dust]

because it helps soulblaze too

[late sapphire]

Sucks to suck man

[nocturne dust]

and crushers can be dealt with faster with DS or deimos over BB

BB is just ew

[barren lintel]

Absolutely it can, thats true, but it doesnt deal with crusher waves behind it, as well as situtions where, especially in pugs, where you need to handle things behind that as well

For me, being able to quickly eliminate bombers/gunners/reapers who have been triggered early, and more importantly, dogs on stragglers became more beneficial and allowed for a cleaner run

[nocturne dust]

BB doesn't deal with waves.

[barren lintel]

with the buffed Celerity, it shits on them now

[devout sluice]

i mean

[azure bridge]

out of curiosity has the psyker atheneum been updated yet?

[devout sluice]

this really became a point of preference

[nocturne dust]

I mean sure, but that's the stim

[split lance]

EP works best with monstrosities. If not then ur just wasting keystone

[barren lintel]

considering how many people ignore celerity, and even without that, its 3 free brain bursts that are empowered and I get af ree one on any elite kill

[devout sluice]

you started with an odd claim how warp doesnt benefit surge (it does) but now you're explaining you're playing with ep and celerity due to preference (that's ok) however that also does not increase "power"

[nocturne dust]

also you can eat gunners/reapers with purgatus

[barren lintel]

we moved on to a different point in the topic

[barren lintel]

not if they get triggered early, I play normally with pugs, and encoutners are often triggered very early due to people just shooting into groups ahead of the current one

[nocturne dust]

just dodge slide or bait them with cover

[barren lintel]

I can do that, the pugs cannot

[nocturne dust]

The pugs ain't going to survive because of slow brain bursting

[split lance]

lol

[barren lintel]

Always worked before, and more often than when I took warp charges, because I have the option now

[split lance]

Bro just 15 more sec and those 3 gunners are dead

[nocturne dust]

unless they're being threatened by lone reapers

which...

if they are

if they die, they die

[glossy escarp]

I like it for any moment that requires quick BBs, be it monsters or ranged elites or whatever. Normal BB is just a tad too slow to feel good but EP BB feels just right

[azure bridge]

what're the new good blessing combos to put onto infernos staff?

[nocturne dust]

You do you and we'll call it a major difference of opinion.

[barren lintel]

Fair

[split lance]

Charges = more creeping flames = faster soulblaze proccs = more soulblaze dmg = everything dead (and that’s without kf)

[split lance]

Not me tho. I’m not sleepy enough yet

[radiant frigate]

i would like warp charges a lot more if i could just decide not to consume them on ult for cdr

[barren lintel]

you get enough CDR just from killing elites anyways

[split lance]

EP BB as a build works great I’m not dogging on that. I’m dogging on purg ep bc of the pure amount of dps loss

[radiant frigate]

permanent 24% damage at a somewhat affordable price? satisfactory

the same thing but conditional and resetting every time i press f? not hehe

[split lance]

If you shriek at 30% or so everything staggered + everything gets 16+ soulblaze stacks and that’s enough to kill everything that isn’t a monstrosity or crusher

[nocturne dust]

but more abilities go bbbbbrrrrrrr

[glossy escarp]

That's fair

[split lance]

Press f harder to kill the elites and it comes back instantly

Which is why I love charges

[potent echo]

Press F to summon a force greatsword

[radiant frigate]

but what if i want disrupt destiny (long) or sg (long)

[split lance]

I’m not a bubble fan but bubble with charges quite literally means infinite bubbles

[radiant frigate]

reality anchor ER and inner tranquility

L O N G gaze

[split lance]

I’ve had fun on EP BB builds. Got like 200k monster damage on one

That felt cool

[nocturne dust]

I want that too but we can't always get what we want 😔

[barren lintel]

now if Empyric shock worked on purg, then that would just be broken

[split lance]

Omega broken

Good thing KF works on it tho

[potent echo]

Oh it doesn't?

[radiant frigate]

can't have permanent sg but zealot gets to have bp

it's not fair siblings

[barren lintel]

specifically on purg....feels targetted

[split lance]

Guys. I think I’m a kf simp through and through

[split lance]

I use kf on all staffs but vs bc I don’t use vs

[potent echo]

I think their code just doesnt count non-bubble as LMB

[split lance]

I should try more VS tho

[barren lintel]

Shriek is just too good sometimes to pass over

[split lance]

Yes

[barren lintel]

help, a dogs got me behind a wall....shriek, move on

[split lance]

Watching everything burn just feels amazing

. Kill elite, 84 peril, shriek, everything

[potent echo]

I remember doing laspistol push through a wall once because I didn't have shriek

[radiant frigate]

shriek really just is the psyker edition of voc

[barren lintel]

Watching a notification on a gunner that was hiding in a spawn door that just burned to death without you realizing it, after you've moved on and didnt even realize what happened is amazing

[split lance]

I play quite aggressive so I love shit dying behind me

[radiant frigate]

should start playing boneless shriek like i do boneless voc (no gold toughness) (no flames)

[potent echo]

Wth is boneless shriek

[radiant frigate]

no mods

just shriek

[barren lintel]

if warp rupture for shriek did more damage, Id consider it...but 200 dmg is just....sad

[potent echo]

Madness

[split lance]

Worthless dmg

Gimme more fire

[barren lintel]

_> now if pinning fire on shredder and blaze away didnt get nerfed, THEN I would reconsider

[radiant frigate]

i want a shriek that pops the head off a crusher, like a really high tone

[split lance]

KF

[radiant frigate]

think bigger: a shriek that casts BB on all targets hit

[barren lintel]

KF, the best way to use BB...unless its on a Burster, then we might have an issue

[late sapphire]

God i hate fatshark

[barren lintel]

well, someone will have the issue, not me, too far back

[late sapphire]

Exploded during the warp unbound transition again

[potent echo]

Which weepon

[split lance]

If you think about it really hard BB is just unzipping a 19 trillion petabyte zip (pics of my cat) directly into their brain

[late sapphire]

Voidstrike

[split lance]

It’s me. I’ll have the issue. If I’m not in the front I’m fighting to be in the front

[potent echo]

Need new staff marks for each staff, now

[split lance]

The pc busters like sending me to the back tho

[split lance]

Can we make the purg staff a concentrated beam like a magnifying glass

[potent echo]

Yes beam staff from vt2

[split lance]

Infinite cleave

[barren lintel]

we'll just say its a tactical choice, you are choosing to be bursted, so you can use it to avoid the 5 crushers about to smash you into paste

[potent echo]

Infinite cleave is

[split lance]

Idk what vt2 is

[split lance]

I want the crushers

[barren lintel]

Green crushers

[split lance]

I enjoy side stepping them as I poke my rod into them

My long rod

Jamming into them over and over

Penetrating them

[late sapphire]

Coruscation staff when

[split lance]

(I’m going to die to an add that I ignored)

[barren lintel]

no, you are going to die to the add that the zealot ignored so they can beat your score

[split lance]

||its going to take all 200 health in one swipe||

[split lance]

Zealots can try to beat my dmg but they can’t. I can die and get brought back and I’m still up

Not bc I’m good

[barren lintel]

or you are going to die to the shooer next to you because the vet who went plasma cant aim for shit

[split lance]

But bc I believe in the emperor more

[barren lintel]

praise be

[split lance]

Ong. I’m just gonna die to the crushers all overhead swinging at a different moment that makes it impossible to dodge them all

[potent echo]

If they give me a short ranged staff I can finally be a real melee psyker and not a fake zealot

[barren lintel]

Pyskers have been every class...

[split lance]

Tbf. Zealots are faking being psykers with ds4

[barren lintel]

zealots had a field day when Pyskers got illisi for the first time

[potent echo]

Illisi is not even that good

Imagine zealot with powersword

[barren lintel]

it was

Illisi used to be devistating and Demios was just a better TH

[split lance]

Don’t you dare spread illussy hate

[potent echo]

Can spell illussy without I'll 🤢

It is pretty good with gaze and DD though ngl

Anything with middle damage that suddenly starts oneshotting with support is just crazy

[split lance]

Ilussy

[barren lintel]

god now I wanna go back to warp charge purg again...

[split lance]

Do it

[potent echo]

Deimos is better than TH except vs bosses, still decent vs bosses though

[split lance]

Feel the stacks of soulblaze reach never before seen heights as everything around you drops dead

[haughty brook]

Hello make it still sense in endgame to play psyker with assail bubble trauma staff and IV duelsword?

[barren lintel]

uh...

I guess...it will knock down things so everyone else can kill them?

[potent echo]

Yes

You can play anything in endgame

[barren lintel]

:I

[split lance]

Oops I dropped this

[split lance]

Shriek at 30 peril

[barren lintel]

No I mean the trauma thing

[split lance]

Oooohhhh

I love trauma

[ornate hamlet]

any of yall wana game and help me get the tis but a flesh wound penance

[split lance]

It that guys build

But I love trauma

[ornate hamlet]

i would like to solo it but i found out i cant solo private mode

[split lance]

I’m supposed to be server meat head 😡😡😡

[potent echo]

I prefer fire reborn over psychic vampire

[split lance]

I would get on to help

[potent echo]

Or whatever the talents are called

[split lance]

But it’s 3:30am

[ornate hamlet]

i turned my clocks off so no time

i cant read numbers on discord bc idk how

alright thanks though. maybe an ogryn

[split lance]

Oh shit ur right

[barren lintel]

was about to say

[split lance]

I’m so used to going right when making that tree

[barren lintel]

no fire reborn....huh

thats a choice

[split lance]

It’s still work but yeah. Fire reborn much better

On trauma tho. Vampire. Even tho everything’s dying to blaze. Vampire just feels more consistent

I swap between both occasionally

[barren lintel]

Trauma tends to hang out with the rest of the crew more

[split lance]

I wonder. If there’s a way to get souldrinker on it

[barren lintel]

they ruined souldrinker by not letting it stack crit up to 3...

also by putting it on the right for some reason...

[potent echo]

What should I put as my 2nd perk on blaze trauma after flak

I currently have crit but it feels meh

[split lance]

No KF :Sadge

[potent echo]

No KD either oofy owchie

[split lance]

I use unyielding

[split lance]

I don’t run kd very much

[potent echo]

No 5% crit chance node either

[split lance]

Unless I’m purposely going to fight a DH

Or bosses

[potent echo]

Just negated the 5% you gain from drinker

[split lance]

Souldrinker makes up for it. Considering it’s up time is no less than 98%

[potent echo]

But both

[patent jacinth]

I should try kinetic deflection dclaw

That sounds properly silly

[split lance]

Actually this works perfect

[devout sluice]

is 10% rending really worth it over -40% peril gen?

[barren lintel]

you want peril, more dmg

[split lance]

Purg gains peril so slowly

[devout sluice]

ok yes

[split lance]

That having ER slows it down even more

[potent echo]

Not if you have 40% warp res purg like me

[devout sluice]

but get the peril

and way easier to keep it 75%+ and utilize

over

[barren lintel]

plus that -toughness regen tends to come up at the worst times

[split lance]

You can pretty easily use purge at 80+ with little to no issues

[potent echo]

Rending does absolutely nothing for any armor type not carapace btw

For soulblaze

[devout sluice]

giving a 12-30 dmg tick a conditional 10% increase /280 dmg from direct +10%

[potent echo]

At most you get a 2.5% increase in damage

[split lance]

Both nodes aren’t a good option but ya need peril so

[potent echo]

It's not 10%

[devout sluice]

yeah is what im going at

[potent echo]

Can't speak for purg vs crushers

[split lance]

On every other staff tho ER is the way to go

[devout sluice]

i'd take -40 peril regardless

[split lance]

Ig except vs

[potent echo]

Because uncanny exists and is the superior option

[split lance]

Kinda

[devout sluice]

technically you getting hit is avoidable

toughness generation from purgatus should be more than enough regardless of debuff

[split lance]

Wait this is actually shit bc of no evasion

[restive slate]

Arigats sounds fun to try

[split lance]

Fuck it drop pyskinetic for it

[runic kiln]

just gotta be careful you dont get surrounded

[runic kiln]

my tip is to super precharge your brburst if you can

[restive slate]

Precharge? Rmb?

[runic kiln]

ye

have it ready to pop

[potent echo]

Idk why precharge is so much slower than lmb

Feels like you need a 1 second headstart to get any value

[languid dragon]

Does more rating = more damage? e.g. Will this staff do more damage if I finish it?

[plucky flax]

No it's determined by the stats.

[languid dragon]

So leave it at 490 since warp res is a dump stat?

[slate oasis]

nah warp res is still useful it's just the least important

[tribal echo]

is soul blaze alright now?

[wind spruce]

It's always been really strong

[potent echo]

On voidblast warp res is required

[tribal echo]

i should try making a build around it

[potent echo]

It's kinda tight for the onetic maxcast breakpoint

[edgy heart]

Planning to make sienna fuegonasus, what voice do you think fits her tone/personality

[slate oasis]

maybe female seer. she sounds older than the others at least

[vestal fulcrum]

Female Seer, totally

[plucky flax]

Nah go max upgrade for trauma. If it was burga I would leave it

[languid dragon]

burga?

[ivory path]

I honestly prefer doing quell as my dump stat for all staves. To me it makes edging warp rider easier.

[plucky flax]

Burgatus pretty tasty now.

[potent echo]

Depends on the staff

[patent steeple]

I myself honestly don't have much of a choice but to tolerate high quell speed. All of my staffs are so good in the other stats that I don't wanna try farming for new ones and upgrade those new ones to 500...

[potent echo]

Voidblast is pretty tight if you want optimal quell ticks

[zinc phoenix]

It’s pretty easy to roll 60 w/ 4x 80 now

Other stat distributions are tougher

[sturdy tendon]

It's easy to roll, but unless you have thousands of diamantine lying around it's not exactly cheap

[compact cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-gif-17556910517109081583

[wind spruce]

It's not even farming It's just hitting left click 20 times and using one billionth of your excess ordos

[compact cargo]

We do Ogryn theft

[patent steeple]

bold of you to assume I have excess ordos 😭

[wind spruce]

Send me pics of grass pls

[slate oasis]

slap that +10% ordo dockets on all your curios and get to purging heretics

[patent steeple]

That's a good idea, actually. Imma go do that.

now I just need to figure out what curio stat buffs I don't need on my psyker's curios...

[flint pawn]

Illegally modify the blessing and perks to all be + ordo dockets

who needs stats anyway just dodge 5head

[edgy heart]

How about in terms of personality

[languid dragon]

Do crushers have resistance to soul blaze or something? 21 stacks and its hp bar is not moving

[sacred crane]

Seer all the way

[sacred crane]

Carapace damage multiplier is 0.1

So yeah, they are lol

[late sapphire]

They are covered in thick armor

Which somehow extends to their souls i guess

[languid dragon]

Their soul must be too I guess

[flint pawn]

Time for Penetrating Flame

[sacred crane]

Crushers are least likely to suffer heart conditions confirmed

[flint pawn]

You'll kill them sometime this year

+25% Carapace and +10% Elites on the staff too

full send

[sacred crane]

Nuh uh
+5% crit chance +25% maniac damage fire trauma

[flint pawn]

nah

carapace elites penetrating flame blaze away purgatus is the wave

trust me

[sacred crane]

+perilious +wildfire +creeping flames = death

[flint pawn]

what else can we do

throw in Kinetic Flayer in too

[languid dragon]

isnt wilfire bait?

[flint pawn]

extra damage from warp charges, extra damage based on peril, +7.5% elite damage passive

it's worth it I swear

how much damage does this all even do in total

time to test it

[azure bridge]

is penetrating flame worth taking?

[flint pawn]

I would assume not, I don't think I've seen it used but who cares we're not going for viability we're going for memes here

[late sapphire]

More or less

Penetrating flames is not really worth taking, only really helps with carapace and that's only crusher

Your multiplier goes up from like 10% to 30% which is x3 but the time to kill only goes from 30 years to 10 years which is unimpressive

[languid dragon]

are we talking about the same node?

[late sapphire]

wildfire and penetrating flames are two different things, no

clarified the message

[flint pawn]

shhhhh, maybe I can make it 9 years

[azure bridge]

how does blaze away function on the infernos staff then? Is the power increase a snap shot or does your soul fire damage decrease if you dont maintain the buff?

[flint pawn]

it's based on the charge meter of the secondary

if you fully charge your secondary it ramps up until about halfway down the meter when it caps

[late sapphire]

stacks decay but you can actually upkeep them between secondaries

Haven't used it though

[azure bridge]

I've been u sing blaze away more recently i guess I'll just need to give penetrating flames a shot and see how it fairs in comparison

[late sapphire]

I'd drop nexus over blaze away

[azure bridge]

even though nexus synergizes with the rest of the kit?

[late sapphire]

up to 20% more stacks, maybe like 10% avg vs up to 40% overall damage

[azure bridge]

i meant more because crits trigger that one node

[late sapphire]

You lose a bit of toughness from mettle but that's ok i think

[azure bridge]

that makes you auto dodge ranged shots

[flint pawn]

oh yeah. it's glorious. this is not going to work.

[echo root]

No warp res dumb?

[flint pawn]

lazy to fix

[echo root]

No flak dmg perk

[flint pawn]

psh who needs it

we're going crusher killer purgatus

I'm not insane I swear

[late sapphire]

Damage dump, crusher ttk could be 0.3% faster

[echo root]

Technically you don't need it, it's just free dmg

[late sapphire]

Come on man

[echo root]

Toothpick kills crusher in 2 hits anyways

[late sapphire]

We don't do reasonable builds here

[flint pawn]

Scrier's Gaze Purgatus

everything is set

let's see how many years this takes

[arctic shard]

The emperor protects but that was a struggle

[flint pawn]

what the fuck this kind of sort of works

25.?? seconds to kill 4 crushers with this abomination of a purgatus

[plucky flax]

Based

[flint pawn]

I didn't even trigger scrier's gaze

it is time to IMMEDIATELY bring this into auric maelstrom and throw the match

I am peaking at 166 damage soulblaze ticks with the shriek after stacking up staff soulblaze

on crushers

throwing Kinetic Flayer into the mix and this kinda sorta barely works

screw dueling sword this is the shit

[quartz barn]

Time to die to the peril bug

[languid dragon]

I cannot tell if serious or sarcastic

[flint pawn]

somewhere in between

a sort of "this is usable but please don't"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzrIOYKCq_g

this is awful, this is stupid

but hey

it isn't a tactical axe