psyker-class

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/hide-the-pain-harold-gif-10576512

[lethal lagoon]

Generally no, but there are use cases.

[nocturne dust]

I promise. Unfortunately.

[lethal lagoon]

Oh I just saw your force sword

Yes that's an ideal force sword

[north hatch]

So don't upgrade it at all?

[lethal lagoon]

Although I guess it doesn't matter as much anymore, because you can't stroke the illy over and over again

Yeah.

If you want a normal, I'd just get another for 60 warp resist.

[split lance]

games?

[lethal lagoon]

I'd keep that one

[north hatch]

Kk

What's the point of having 60 warp resist

[lethal lagoon]

Sure, help me get malleous(50% on boss in private game) really fast.

Do you have that one?

[split lance]

ok

[split lance]

ye

[lethal lagoon]

Nerd.

[nocturne dust]

Just go shieldgryn and use special block on plagryn

[split lance]

theres some fucking nerds in 69. join 40k

[unique mist]

do the reduced peril generation nodes work to keep you in scriers gaze for longer?

[nocturne dust]

yes

[lethal lagoon]

I mean I feel like that's kinda the point of the 69 channel

[split lance]

ITS MY CHANNEL

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/georgetakei-ohmy-scandal-innuendo-sexy-gif-4591493

[lethal lagoon]

Let the nerds go at it

[nocturne dust]

More pre-servitors for the Omnissiah

[ripe gazelle]

what tis be meta loadouts

[tranquil dagger]

whats the best way to do cliffhanger

I feel like Im going insane

[nocturne dust]

pick a staff, go down left side of tree

done

[unique mist]

what are the bolt pistol blessings?

[nocturne dust]

Depending on the staff you have to make a few adjustments, but for psyker all the staves + creeping flames shriek is meta. Except maybe voidstrike which can make use of scrier's and is more weird.

[jovial juniper]

Surgical Puncture is the popular pick

[ripe obsidian]

You can if you quickswap weapons. Charge > QQ > charge, etc.

[nocturne dust]

swap cancel

[lethal lagoon]

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/jesusisafriend-out-of-this-house-exorcism-cross-church-gif-9309545

[zinc phoenix]

You can do it with psyker too if you stack block eff etc

[nocturne dust]

I mean yes but psyker can get tossed

[zinc phoenix]

that just makes it more fun 😂

[nocturne dust]

I think Ogryn works better because he just slides. Of course, sitting in a corner is what you want anyway, so it doesn't really matter

also Ogryn taunts which increases damage to boss

[zinc phoenix]

It’s such a boring penance tbh

Meanwhile I’m still trying to do the vet 90% one

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-ghost-barrel-explode-fly-gif-10528166394804192796

[lament sapphire]

Hey guys sorry if this is a repeat question; what do you have for builds you take on auric level missions? Trying to find a niche but having some trouble

I've finished veteran and ogryn penances but want to get better at being a crazy lady

[wind spruce]

All staves and some guns are great, best thing to do is decide which one feels the most natural to you and go from there. There's no "best" build for auric.

Or if you show us a build you've got for a weapon you like we'll tell you why it's wrong

[left basin]

firetrauma is bad and detracts from it's initial design as cc heavy elite deleter.

[serene roost]

Voidstrike is the only staff I've really used at that level, so I'd personally recommend that. Idk if I'm dumb, but I haven't been able to get the others to work yet

[fiery wigeon]

voidstrike is very strong

i think voidstrike is the best one because it does everything very well

[serene roost]

agreed

[lethal lagoon]

Voidstrike is a self-contained weapon

yeah

No reason to do anything but voidstrike

[fiery wigeon]

you take amazing single target damage and give it infinite cleave and a shot the size of a football field

[vital coyote]

well just did a game with chainsword and scriers gaze, holy shit thats a lot more fun than shriek with BB

[ripe gazelle]

deimos sword vs turtolsky?

[fiery wigeon]

i hate bb so much

[serene roost]

listening to it pop a couple dozen heads as I throw balls down a hallway is so satisfying

[fiery wigeon]

the what

[primal aurora]

Trauma would have been so much better if it was implosion instead of explosion

[vital coyote]

i decided to try out smite. feels pretty neat

[fiery wigeon]

idk what turtolsky is never heard of that

[ripe gazelle]

hevy sord

[fiery wigeon]

smite has its moments

[fiery wigeon]

ah that explains it

[lethal lagoon]

@split lance

[fiery wigeon]

i really should try the heavy sword some time

[vital coyote]

might switch to assail or however its spelled

[fiery wigeon]

deimos is extremely strong right now

[fiery wigeon]

assail

assail is decent allrounder

[lethal lagoon]

[serene roost]

I've been using smite with Empowered Psyonics, Empyrics Resolve and Battle Meditation, it does lots (enough) damage and goes forever

[fiery wigeon]

the problem with assail

you cannot take psykinetic aura

[vital coyote]

also accidentally killed enemies by knocking them off a bridge with voidblast. very funny

[fiery wigeon]

not taking psykinetic aura is a massive L

[vital coyote]

oh shit true

nvm no assail lol

i love being able to spam scier's gaze

[fiery wigeon]

i love assail

psykinetic aura is just busted

[vital coyote]

but i love scrier with chainsword

[wet flax]

does anyone know anything about the passive talent called warp splitting (100% cleave, based on peril)? does it only affect melee or can it affect assail or maybe primary and secondary staff actions?

[fiery wigeon]

and its not just your cooldowns either so everyone gets to spam their strong abilities

[vital coyote]

oh shit true

[fiery wigeon]

it SHOULD affect everything and last i heard it did

[vital coyote]

i wonder if i should run the CD aura over the CC one, but i love proccing my soulblaze, but it is only 5% i'd lose

[fiery wigeon]

CD aura is better but like both are good

[wet flax]

so say I have high peril and use a secondary voidstrike staff charged attack, it'll be an even crazier bowling ball?

[fiery wigeon]

voidstrike already has pretty arbitrarily high cleave doesnt it?

but yeah it should

[primal aurora]

Fire trauma blaze stacks aren't tied to charge level? So you can just spam minimum charge blasts when on max peril under Gaze 10 seconds warp immunity?

[wet flax]

I was thinking more on the lines of charging it only slightly but still getting the same cleave as a heavy charge. I tried it on the psykhanium but I cant really tell

[vital coyote]

so idk too much with how toughness regen works. is quietude enough or should I grab something like souldrinker?

or is souldrinker only useful with either flame staff or the shriek that gives soulblaze

[fiery wigeon]

if you dont create soulblaze it wont do anything

its very good with flame staff

its solid with blaze shriek

force sword can also trigger it

which is pretty funny

[vital coyote]

i have perilous combustion, wildfire, and with my voidblast staff

yeye i was using force sword, but been wanting to mess with chainsword rn

should quietude be enough toughness for higher difficulties? i have been playing malice rn am scared to go higher rn lol

[fiery wigeon]

just dont get hit

[vital coyote]

very true

ill take this advice like in soulslikes o7

[fiery wigeon]

more toughness is always nice as long as youre not sacrificing major nodes for more of it

[vital coyote]

id probably need to sac like 2-3 nodes for it, so i dont think it would be suuper worth

[left basin]

gucci gang song best song

or is it run around and poke eyes song

[ripe yacht]

What am I looking for in a gunker build?

Gun wise.

[split lance]

@strong gulch finally rekt tf outta @lethal lagoon

[lethal lagoon]

[strong gulch]

ATLAS MAD

[lethal lagoon]

Imagine posting a scoreboard where it was under 600k

I could never

Also, even with a level 12, the mission was so dead.

What's up with the director nowadays

[mental grail]

Accatran Recon, Vrak IAG for fully automatic. Zarona II, Bolt Pistol, Accatran Laspistol for semi-auto.

[lethal lagoon]

First you take my train

And then my surge

What am I left?

[split lance]

Play one without me

[strong gulch]

booger frog

[split lance]

I’ll be back after the one is done

[split lance]

Imagine dying

COULDNT BE ME

[lethal lagoon]

Leave the team

My only option is to block you or unfriend you

I can't kick you lmao

[split lance]

I can’t get back to my pc :(

[nocturne dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1004447866250613048/1293777782727512064/967ute.gif

Yes I have it saved.

[split lance]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1004447866250613048/1293778694535512115/967v2e.gif

[lethal lagoon]

You back?

[split lance]

No

I’m angry

I need to calm down

[split lance]

(My package isn’t here yet)

[lethal lagoon]

You can order that in the mail?

[strong gulch]

yes

[nocturne dust]

too many pixels, 0/10

[lethal lagoon]

Just to be clear, I am about to head out.

[strong gulch]

Discord, make package arrive. Do the the thing.

[lethal lagoon]

So if you are memeing, get in here

[split lance]

I’m genuinely upset

It was supposed to be here yesterday

I’m like

[lethal lagoon]

[lethal lagoon]

Come be upset in here with me bb

[split lance]

Ok

I’m joining back

[nocturne dust]

come to think of it, didn't you do this exact manuever the enemy that hit you did (dropping down from ledge) on train only to get netted?

[lethal lagoon]

⏩

[nocturne dust]

Maybe tren's true enemy is ledges

[lethal lagoon]

tren's fatal weakness is backshots

[left basin]

i wanna play

and use bad builds

[feral knoll]

Normalize using whatever you want vs the meta

[left basin]

https://tenor.com/view/no-gif-6533142189269812111

whatever i want is big always big numbers

[nocturne dust]

can I introduce you to Kinetic Deflection Devil's Claw?

[left basin]

i've seen

[feral knoll]

That or being FAST

[left basin]

no iw ant big ban g

[feral knoll]

Now I have the idea to put knife on Psyker

I want to zoom

[left basin]

https://tenor.com/view/pencil-gif-10953474

someone who knows things, tell me

does mettle only proc once for a single projectile

being a critting voidstrike

[latent hill]

What’s heavy sword ideal for on a Psyker?

[nocturne dust]

not much

[left basin]

none, really, but probably the one with the easiert horizontal strikes might be in a scrier build with additional cleave???? maybe

[lethal lagoon]

Yes mettle got nerfed, it's one proc per crit roll.

[left basin]

no matter how much i try, i can't make scrierstrike work nicely

it's encroaching on zapstaff territory, and while it can do fucky shit with crowds, gorillion damage and all

if you haven't got a team to support your shenanigans, it just doesn't work and breaks over armor stacks

[ripe obsidian]

What is the general opinion of Empyric Shock on Voidstrike? I'm not sure it's worth using, since most of the time I am charging RMB instead of LMB

[left basin]

seems very iffy at best

rmb charge up is ass

even with flurry, and for lmb spam there's zapstaff

it's like balancing on two unicycles at the same time

[ripe obsidian]

It is slow to charge, sure. But I think weaving in LMB to stack Empyric Shock won't really make it better. Just make it take longer to get RMB off.

[left basin]

you probably could make it work, but i dont think it reaches any meaningful breakpoints or does something phenomenal

lmb is very kool, but yeah

[ripe obsidian]

I'm using those points for Warp Splitting instead to make my melee significantly more useful

[left basin]

it also works on void, too

[ripe obsidian]

Oh. Ohhhhhhhhhh.

[left basin]

at least, according to SOME people

[ripe obsidian]

That never even entered my mind

I will test it.

[left basin]

i am unsure at what point it does cool things

[left basin]

do tell if you find anything worthwhile

[ripe obsidian]

It seems to work, yeah

[left basin]

does it do anything spectacular

i remember p13 void on start and i still can't get off that high

[light solstice]

what does soulblaze do?

[ripe obsidian]

Seems to go from 10ish Poxwalkers cleaved to 15-16

At least on my first test

[left basin]

https://tenor.com/view/reasonsimbroke-larry-david-hbo-hbo-max-meh-gif-24169087

[ripe obsidian]

+1 or 2 more dreg ragers

6 shotgunners to at least 10

So, a meaningful increase if you can get stuff lined up

[left basin]

seems mediocre

[ripe obsidian]

Well, when it takes so long to charge RMB, hitting ~60% more enemies feels nice

Also apparently works with Assail

[left basin]

god i want scrier to be good with staves but i just can't find a usecase that doesn't feel like absolute ass

maybe... firetrauma..

voidstrike is VERY funny, don't get me wrong

[ripe obsidian]

This is my current Voidstrike build. It works pretty well.

[left basin]

i am well aware, but at that point might as well switch to zapstaff

[ripe obsidian]

But I am thinking about doing this instead:

[left basin]

probs better

dont get me wrong, scrierstrike allows for more or less usable surgeflurry

but after true aim this feels like a horrible step down

dunno dunno dunno this all feels ECH

[ripe obsidian]

ECH?

[left basin]

also known as meh

i guess you COULD make a staff that you can use indefinetely, but... quell. just quell. you still lose out on almost all of your stacks

[ripe obsidian]

My purge staff is more or less indefinite

[left basin]

splurge is basically indefinite anyways

it all feels like i could be doing thrice the amount of things while just going for flamevent warp siphon, while doing more than comparable damage

[verbal thistle]

I call this

"middle"

easy clear on an auric dman

[remote bloom]

It's definetly a middle ground build

[left basin]

it looks infuriating

i want to set it on fire

[verbal thistle]

with chainsword and double barrel

[left basin]

hm

[verbal thistle]

easy

[north hatch]

What's the dump stat for heavy sabre

[verbal thistle]

dueling sword? or Heavy sword

[north hatch]

Heavy

[verbal thistle]

Defense

[north hatch]

Wait this

Affects only stamina lol

I didn't read the tool tip I thought it would have a parry like the catachan sword

[left basin]

GOD I WANT SCRIERSTRIKE TO BE BETTER

i just FEEL like there's something i'm missing to it

like i'll find some stupid usecase for it that won't be just removing a line

somewhere there is some satan who's built perfectionism dd scrierstrike and does valhalla damage

[left basin]

that stops at the first thing that isn't paper*

[upper galleon]

I go transfer peril on mine

For scriers but you could probably get more dps with flurry

[left basin]

mhm

you absolutely do

and it feels natural

surge is not that bad anymore (since true aim :(((( )

[ripe gazelle]

Zealot main here, I have no idea how Psyker psychs. How doth the smite build worketh?

[left basin]

spreads aids slowly

[dusk void]

Smite doth sucketh

[left basin]

or spreads aids fast with the central node

[upper galleon]

You take creeping flames

From the venting ability

You take EP

You take other damage bonuses, scream to maximize edging at like 90% or whatever the maximum creeping flames percent is

[left basin]

and press f while holding your smite

[ripe gazelle]

#1158835513789272126 message i was kinda looking at this fellows 😓

[upper galleon]

Dont use it on crushers unless absolutely necessary cause you should take duelingsword or a staff that can kill crushers, and dont ise it on monstros

Absolutely cursed and not even that good

Smite can already rng an infinite with Battle mediation

[ripe gazelle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Fy8SPod_y4 there was also this i was curious aboutr

[upper galleon]

Also if ball spam you want surge nexus on your electro staff

Infinite scriers smite is a lot of wasted bonuses when the window for no exploding is perfect for assail

And you need creeping flames to actually kill things

[ripe gazelle]

alright well im very confused i must say

any good builds i can just copy to get my foot in the door lol

[upper galleon]

Im on my phone or else i would throw one up real quick

[ripe gazelle]

all i need is where i can find one

just whatevers meta really

i dont have any particular goals for a bujild

[upper galleon]

Here prob if more people were awake

[ripe gazelle]

😔

[verbal thistle]

what weapons are you gonna use

I can help

[ripe gazelle]

again i have no buckin clue lol

[verbal thistle]

go to brunt

and buy some that look cool

[ripe gazelle]

well i know which ones exist

heavy sword, deimos, and duelling sword all look good

[left basin]

if you're going for lmb spam i can give a couple pointers

heavy sword is ass on psyker

[ripe gazelle]

im not necessarily but wouldnt mind

[ornate sedge]

any recommended blessings for trauma staff

[verbal thistle]

soul blaze nexus

[ornate sedge]

fr already what i have? damn

this thing just does not feel good to me

[ripe gazelle]

devils claw too is cool

[ornate sedge]

way too much peril generation on it

[left basin]

fit as much crit as you can

[verbal thistle]

take reduce peril gen

[left basin]

• morb siphon

[left basin]

there's the brittle (or whatever it's called) flurry, but it's

mediocre at best

[jovial juniper]

Rending Shockwave

[left basin]

flame crits are just too much to pass up

and you still do VERY respectable damage

as in, when you crit 🙂

but you can mitigate almost any problem in melee with that satanical thing

just aim your charge at your feet, send shit flying

readjust aim, repeat previous thing

[north hatch]

Is empowered psionics smite still op

[left basin]

it's worse than before

[north hatch]

Damn

[hollow jolt]

its strong but not bullshit strong like before

[north hatch]

How was it nerfed

[left basin]

it... it wasn't

[north hatch]

How

How is it worse?

[hollow jolt]

I can't remember the details as that is literally like 6+ months ago

[left basin]

flamevent has an easy access to a very, very very overpowered build

[north hatch]

Oh wait no I'm not talking about

6+ months ago

[left basin]

right now it's IN SA NE

[north hatch]

I'm talking about right before the psyker tree rework

[ripe gazelle]

Yes I know gamelantern is bad for builds but I do like the concept of this, so is there a build i can do based on it? https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ba81400-4c60-4362-9756-f93428dfc021/azyr-psyker-smite-venting-shriek-empowered-psionics-auric-ready

[left basin]

throw out battle meditation

[north hatch]

Where do I see it

[left basin]

https://youtu.be/EujuYDonqvM

pugis expose

[north hatch]

This is what Im running for gun psyker

[ebon smelt]

Sibligns! What is the dump stat on the staffs?

[left basin]

which staff

[ebon smelt]

Electrokinetic

[left basin]

but warp res

we have moronic peril red anyway

[ebon smelt]

And i love to edge, so no warp resist needed

[left basin]

tldr - lmb on zapstaff built for crit does fucky shit with surge (double proj on lmb +5crit)

[north hatch]

Oh

Rip doesn't apply to me cause I'm not a staff user

[left basin]

there's also a small talent

on the left middle

called empyric shock

[north hatch]

Yeah I read about that it seems op

[left basin]

if you throw in quellcancel macro it's... inane

[ebon smelt]

Surge dosent affect the charge attack on the zapstaff?

I read somewhere that it can g ive more bolts

[north hatch]

Bleh I need to remake my brain burst gun psyker

[round charm]

is it normal for people to see you smite a whole room and just leave as though youve got it solo?

or is that just a veteran thing

[left basin]

you've got it solo with the lmb spam

maulers get stunned on lmb

[round charm]

sure, but if i smite an entire elite squad, id like some help maybe

[left basin]

and if there's a crusher or some shit - dash back, lmb a couple and zap it up

[round charm]

so im supposed to burst smite and not full channel?

[left basin]

nnnneh

it's just usecases

smite is for when your shit team needs a shit crutch

smite + flamevent, you know the drill

lmb spam is when you don't need much help otherwise because you get +30% warp damage after 5 strikes of your lmb on a target

[round charm]

my team was shit

3 vets never in coherency just solo running around everywhere, id try and save them with smite, and theyd just leave

[zinc phoenix]

Life be like that sometimes

[round charm]

oh, you mean regular lmb with shock?

[left basin]

zapstaff, yes

[zinc phoenix]

I had one mission where this fuckhead kept intentionally trying to barrel me off staircases

Idk why 🤷‍♀️

[left basin]

my suggestion is that you move away from smite and try some sort of a warp siphon thing instead

faster flamevents - big numbers - 5%cd on elite/specialist kill

[round charm]

i took the blitz purely for safety

[left basin]

you can leave the base smite for when you need to rapidly unfuck a situation

it's not very rapid, but

you know

i have it, but i don't really use it because zapstaff is fucky

don't take too much peril regen though (avoid inner tranquility node on warp siphon), you already have empyric resolve

you do get slower toughness regen, just so you're aware

[ripe gazelle]

In favor of what?

[round charm]

im just gonna go back to my assail build. its been like 5 games of people not capitalizing on everything being stunned

[ripe obsidian]

Just tried both builds. The cleave one felt way better to use. I'm not really struggling with peril management anyway, and quelling to a usable state takes like 0.5 seconds

Plus the cleave bonus makes melee feel just so much better

[zinc phoenix]

Killing is indeed generally more useful

[left basin]

https://youtu.be/EujuYDonqvM

[ripe obsidian]

Punching a hole through like 10 gunners in a hallway feels good.

[left basin]

avoid that build, this one does thigns better

[round charm]

i typically only smite when my team is overrun

otherwise its zapstaff spam and ds4 shanking

[ripe gazelle]

Ohhhh thank you!

[left basin]

listen to him intently, he has nice things to say

mix in a quellcancel macro

does... interesting things

[round charm]

you dont even need a macro. just alt tap lmb and r constantly

[left basin]

can you do that while dodging

[round charm]

my dodge is on a thumb button, so probably. i dont recall what the base dodge button is

[left basin]

then hats off to you

but yeah, flurry nexus is still very very useful

[zinc phoenix]

Same, it’s a massive boost to playability

[left basin]

and if you go bar for bar with a psyker that lmbs shit like a mong you'll be taking half their ult cd while zap autoaims with you

[round charm]

so does the quell cancel net more damage just due to fire rate? i wouldve thought the charge was significant

[left basin]

it stacks up empyric shock almost immediately

which is... inane

if you manage to hit HEADSHOTS with that

it's HORRID

[round charm]

i thought only primary did shock

[left basin]

what do you mean

[round charm]

does quell cancel shoot primary, or secondary fire?

[left basin]

primary on electrokinetic staff

you build it for crit with the new surge blessing = you get double balls

[round charm]

oh, so zapstaff is better shooting normally than using the actual zap part?

[left basin]

mhm

well, in this specific usecase

point is you stack up the +30 bonus VERY quickly

[sick tangle]

I use it with assail and only as zap for elites, I much prefer assail for dmg

[round charm]

i cant actually get zapstaff to quellcancel, or is it purely a lmb spam now?

[left basin]

this is a flamevent typa thing

[left basin]

lmb r lmb r lmb r

or.. macro

[round charm]

ah, ok. i see

[left basin]

if you mix in empathic evasion from the right side

you get range attack immunity

but you don't even really need it

[round charm]

so what am I changing on this?

nexus surge?

[left basin]

mhm

[round charm]

alright, ill need to tweak my build to fit shock in

[left basin]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/3pV5YEl_gCpV5SkdS60lqEbBrACJbMhDMYW0zYYIXbU/https/steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2458493930731998064/85374AAD445019D9EA6DB2983FA98F87DB31B6FB/?format=webp&width=1618&height=910

that's auric with green specialist-to-monster

i am not building it with EP SMITE, though

it's the warp siphon thing because you stack up stacks incredibly fast on doomstacks

and just continually use flamevent to regen your peril

but yeah, shotgunner doomstacks fold incredibly fast to headshots with this satanism

maulers get stunned

if you're good with snap headshots it's very,very verrrry nutty

[round charm]

i just copied the build you linked earlier, ill give it a test

[left basin]

the ep smite one?

[round charm]

yeah, or was that the right one

[left basin]

from pygex

[round charm]

yea

[left basin]

do try that

[round charm]

so im primarily left spamming trash, and right spamming ogryns after setting up empyric?

[left basin]

more or less

trash is other shit than ogryns

with the notable exception of the machinegunner ogryn, they get forced into a cowering animation

try and keep to targets if you're not overwhelmed for optimal empshocking

[left basin]

would you mind sending me your tree

or is it flamevent

riight you're using flamevent with it

[left basin]

headshots are important!

[ripe obsidian]

I posted them earlier. I can again later, but I am not at my PC

Tbh the biggest limiting factor for me is that I am pretty bad at consistently getting headshots. If I could do that, I would probably be doing 20-30% better across all classes, but particularly Voidstrike Psyker

[ebon smelt]

Goddamn you are not joking. I just did a dam run to test this, and my mindless lmb spam got mee almost 500k damage

and most melee and elite kills

[frigid sparrow]

What blessings/perks are you guys using with Combat axe antax

[left basin]

point is whatever the fuck you're building can be fitted to a lmb-built zapstaff + empyric shock

and it's quite likely that it's going to be mildly horrific

[left basin]

it's also no joke a real good source of boss damage if you can consistently weakpoint

[ebon smelt]

I diint have a chance to test that because in that run there were two hammer zealots

bosses were just being 2 shot

but i imagine that this can just solo a beast of nurgle pretty easily

[left basin]

well, if you happen to be without those two. it's not optimal in any case, but it's still VERY VERY nutty

as in you can do anything at that point

[ebon smelt]

This really just do everything you need to, you dont don anything badly

Have we become a ultra marine psyker?

https://tenor.com/view/hands-looking-eyeglasses-my-hands-gif-16705955

[left basin]

team has (or you, depending who you ask) brain damage - ep smite + empshock built zapstaff

you wish to not use rmb to stack up your flamevent on your warp siphon - here you go

[ebon smelt]

Is is what i am running, mainly because smite is fun

[left basin]

it can probably do funny things on scrier too

well one thing's smite

the other is ep smite

with flamevent

[ebon smelt]

Flamevent being shriek with soul blaze staking?

[left basin]

yeah

[left basin]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/3pV5YEl_gCpV5SkdS60lqEbBrACJbMhDMYW0zYYIXbU/https/steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2458493930731998064/85374AAD445019D9EA6DB2983FA98F87DB31B6FB/?format=webp&width=1618&height=910

[ebon smelt]

And what is EP Smite?

[left basin]

fireshriek + warp siphon on that picture with zapstaff lmb

EP is the middle bottom node that spreads your smite faster

one of the metuh builds

[ebon smelt]

Oh, okay

So it is what i am running

[left basin]

people frown upon it

i don't because i am have a quellcancel macro set up on my thumb button

and that's debatably more cancer

[ebon smelt]

I heard about the quell canceling, but i havent gone around to seeing how it is done

I dont think about animation cancel since league days, i am not that sweaty anymore

[round charm]

left click, press r, left click

seems to about double the fire rate

maybe more

[left basin]

i once managed to pull of a fiora ult instacast with

... fuckery

[nocturne dust]

It can do much more than double, but human fingers have a real hard time being that fast

[nocturne dust]

How dare you bring aiming into psyker

[left basin]

more or less this

https://youtu.be/it2Rsx9tOLM

[unreal wasp]

Why did you teach me this

Wait wrong one

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/378358108139028500/1294895341782700072/Warhammer_40000__Darktide_2024-10-13_01-30-52.mp4?ex=670cacc3&is=670b5b43&hm=a69ad21a20121689216a85bf3d010af8b9e89e311346722655aabdd3c17dc11e&

[left basin]

some satanic people weaponswap fullcast electrokinetic (ITS FUCKING SURGGGE) rmb's for OPTIMAL DAMAGE OUTPUT

[round charm]

what perks are desired with surge zapstaff?

[left basin]

UNSURE, since there's... no breakpoints

crit

[nocturne dust]

flak and [preference]

[left basin]

shrug

[nocturne dust]

elite lets you one-shot one of the gunner types

[left basin]

on lmb?

[nocturne dust]

on rmb

isn't that zapstaff?

[left basin]

he's talking surge as in blessing

[nocturne dust]

o

[left basin]

i think he's talking lmb spam

[nocturne dust]

How dare they

[sturdy mantle]

why you guys play psyker, they made ogryn for a reason

[left basin]

i am thinking that i can probably make something funny with mind in motion + warp speed

[nocturne dust]

Idk, it doesn't sound interesting

[left basin]

infinite quell running!

would... MAYBE kinda a little bit solve my problems with scrierstrike

[nocturne dust]

Mind in motion should give you a speed boost while quelling

that would be neat

[left basin]

that would be fucking insane

[broken carbon]

because ogryn is super boring to play

[left basin]

if i stack toughness it's basically a really shitty kinetic deflection

[sturdy mantle]

because we win too fast?

[unreal wasp]

Now I'm ruined, slowly perfecting it

[left basin]

works on purge too

[broken carbon]

no because its boring to play

hold heavy

hold heavy

hold heavy

hold heavy

get trapped

thats it

[nocturne dust]

look at this dirty quell canceller

[left basin]

i infect

[sturdy mantle]

you don't know how to slide dodge

[broken carbon]

as long as u dont do it with a macro

its completely fine

but

SOMEONE HERE

[nocturne dust]

no no, it's still bad because I say so

[broken carbon]

THAT I TRUE DUOD WITH

IN A CIVI

used a macro

[broken carbon]

i do lol

i just dont enjoy playing ogryn

[unreal wasp]

You can tell I'm not doing it with a macro in the video because I occasionally fuck up

[broken carbon]

ogryn is fun on civi only because no ranged enemies

[nocturne dust]

I'll play ogryn as soon as they get staves and peril instead of stupid stinky ammunition

[sturdy mantle]

what do you think rock recharge is

[nocturne dust]

neither staves or peril

[sturdy mantle]

i have to stave off my peril when no rocks

[nocturne dust]

Your wordplay is acknowledged and rejected, slab lover.

[sturdy mantle]

your mom is slabbing on my lover all the times

[nocturne dust]

Jokes on you, I have 2 dads named Bob Bobinson.

[left basin]

https://youtu.be/kaF6_PMLkgY

[left basin]

here's lord and savior qcancering

[nocturne dust]

I never said Pygex was my lord and savior.

[left basin]

_>

[nocturne dust]

#NotMyLordAndSavior

[left basin]

well he's mine

[nocturne dust]

I see where you get your rotten stinky manner of play from.

[left basin]

https://tenor.com/view/hd-smirk-gif-7206957141966421326

he also does numbers in head so i don't have to

[nocturne dust]

[left basin]

besides, i am just waiting for scrierstrike to be recognized by the developers and suitably horribly overbuffed

because i need a plasmagun on a staff

[nocturne dust]

I doubt that'll happen

[left basin]

😦

no it will

[nocturne dust]

at least, I would hope it doesn't

[left basin]

SCRIERSTRIIIIKE

[nocturne dust]

I like scrierstrike but it's alright as is. Doesn't need a buff.

[left basin]

it's ech

[nocturne dust]

Of course, imo.

[left basin]

it's very many funs

but only if you have a team that teams

otherwise it's flamevent

[nocturne dust]

I mean, yeah, you can't trauma your feet or stun everyone in a ten mile radius or burn everything directly in front of you to death

[left basin]

https://tenor.com/view/eh-meh-jim-jim-halpert-the-office-gif-25317293

[nocturne dust]

that makes it balanced

[broken carbon]

yeah but you can voidstrike your feet

[nocturne dust]

So many enemies will ignore that unlike trauma tho 😔

[left basin]

and then voidstrike the mauler sitting next to your revive position

[broken carbon]

i was making fun of u

when u argued that void striking enemy’s feet

[nocturne dust]

Oh u still on that

[broken carbon]

was valid

LOL

yah i think it’s funny

i don’t care i just find it funny

[nocturne dust]

It is, you can do it and it's a thing that exists

[left basin]

I WANT MORE STAVES GODDAMNIT

[nocturne dust]

Me too

[left basin]

i want a SNIPER STAFF

[broken carbon]

bolt staff, beam staff

[nocturne dust]

Eh

[broken carbon]

the children yearn for the bolt staff…

[left basin]

change ep to a flame teleport

that'll do em

[nocturne dust]

voidstrike is mostly bolt

[left basin]

it's SLLLOOWWW

[nocturne dust]

sure

bigger bolt

[left basin]

i want a projectile speed boost. (and radius to crit amp)

and thrust.

.... and brittle.

[nocturne dust]

thrust on voidstrike

[left basin]

really really want that, in fact i'd very much prefer it to surge

mmmmmm kame hame ha...

mmmm break the points

[nocturne dust]

granted, but it works on the staff special

and nothing else

[left basin]

https://tenor.com/view/stabby-duck-very-mad-stabby-duck-honeyadoreyou-divya-gif-19892727

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/28stab-wounds-criminal-killer-interrogate-gif-17937824

[left basin]

REMOVE SURGE ADD THRUST

[nocturne dust]

No

Surge and thrust

[left basin]

i am already hooked on crits i cant

i need more crits

[nocturne dust]

Well, thrust won't do more crits

but surge does

[round charm]

why does everyone keep leaving game when they go down? wheres the faith?

[nocturne dust]

actually make the staff thrust also add crit

[runic kiln]

@radiant frigate @wind spruce RE- that quelling on headshot. now that im at my pc, yeah i meant the TTS+Crit fishing with accatran, i run the same accatran on gunker so much i forgot they were different things.

[nocturne dust]

They're impatient and/or lack ASS and are dirty ASS wanters

[round charm]

is ass an acronym here?

[nocturne dust]

....perhaps

[runic kiln]

people just assume its a lost match if you dont babysit them and stop them instadying on cooldown so they decide to leave early and rerollteammates

[round charm]

thats lame

[nocturne dust]

Auric Storm Survivor = ASS, but it's a meme to word it like you're talking about... something else 😏

[round charm]

those people are weak

[unreal wasp]

ASS

[round charm]

im in regular damnation games, can you even get ass there?

[nocturne dust]

I LOVE ASS

[nocturne dust]

oh no, that's just impatient people lol

[runic kiln]

the crusher-squads seem to love my ass for sure

[round charm]

it just doesnt make sense. if I can clutch up, its less time than finding and playing another game

[runic kiln]

^ also more fun

[nocturne dust]

If it was at least auric, auric exemplar would be a possible reason. ASS is auric maelstroms.

[left basin]

regular damnation is the borderlands for heresy denizens

[nocturne dust]

For you. Not very fun to watch someone else clutch (even if they succeed)

for most filthy leavers anyway

[left basin]

every time i stop playing this and come back to speed myself up there's heresy spillovers

[nocturne dust]

I mean, an easy solution would be to give a 5 minute wait time if someone disconnects from an active match and then chooses not to rejoin

Probably make people angry tho

[round charm]

if you leave enough games you should be forced to run like 5 bot only games

[unreal wasp]

Leaver penalty

[round charm]

there needs to be a punishment for baby griefing

[left basin]

low priority cutoff where you can only play heresy

https://tenor.com/view/mmhmm-mmhmm-meme-mmhmm-gif-mmhmm-twitch-gif-23291803

[lethal lagoon]

Already have that, it's called alimony and child support

[nocturne dust]

Lore-accurate rearguard commissar

[lethal lagoon]

So if you leave a darktide game, you have pay the other three players, 2.6 plasteel per day for a week.

[round charm]

gonna tax you 10% of your aquilas

[unreal wasp]

2.6k*

[left basin]

i need a dd stack indicator.

[nocturne dust]

Plasteel trading becomes a thing

[lethal lagoon]

Back when RNG was a thing, an auction house woulda been funny

Well not really, cause I probably would have sold my inventory all for cheap when I "quit"

[left basin]

absolutely non related question. does anyone run perfectionism on dd

[nocturne dust]

I don't run DD

[lethal lagoon]

I run these deez nuts

[nocturne dust]

disrupt deez

[unreal wasp]

WS muh beloved

[nocturne dust]

all hail warp siphon

[lethal lagoon]

all hail....

[unreal wasp]

Press F more often

[lethal lagoon]

Change F to left click

Just have it auto go

[round charm]

yall use f for your power? gross

[split lance]

Ur gross

Green goo pfp

[round charm]

its a frog, actually

[lethal lagoon]

I'm an mmo player, any of the dozens of possible keybind combinations around WASD are as simple as breathing.

[nocturne dust]

I rebound grenades to a number key

[left basin]

ws is flamevent only

[lethal lagoon]

Or I was...

[nocturne dust]

[left basin]

shield is a lie.

[lethal lagoon]

[lethal lagoon]

[left basin]

i sometimes play wotlk on freeshards

[nocturne dust]

wat no

[left basin]

that's where i have the macro disease coming from

[nocturne dust]

get shielded nerd

[left basin]

nnnneh

[nocturne dust]

then get shielded again

and again

[round charm]

dodge, special attack, power, blitz all on my mouse buttons

[nocturne dust]

and again

[round charm]

im too lazy to move my hands

[left basin]

do you have a mmo mouse

[round charm]

logitech hero. 2 thumb buttons, 2 more buttons near left click

[unreal wasp]

Doesn't even press WASD, character auto-walks forward and he just turns with mouse

[round charm]

scroll wheel to move

[nocturne dust]

You know there's research that says you aim better if you have less other tasks handled by the same hand (i.e. button presses)?

[left basin]

502?

[lethal lagoon]

Clickers....

[round charm]

i think so

[lethal lagoon]

[nocturne dust]

Ey, I use the hero too

[left basin]

those are for switching dpi you philistine

[round charm]

ive been doing it for so long id probably be worse swapping off

[lethal lagoon]

Mouse buttons is just fancy tech so you don't feel as lame for being a clicker(I also have a hero)

[round charm]

dpi buttons are behind the scroll wheel

[split lance]

slimy mfer

[nocturne dust]

Practice makes permanent

[lethal lagoon]

What DPI do you guys have on your hero?

I'm usually at 6400, anything lower than 3k feels like sludge.

[nocturne dust]

I have no idea

[left basin]

25 so i can optimally dodge spin

[round charm]

i think im on 1200

[lethal lagoon]

If you have no idea, it's probably 400-800

[nocturne dust]

Some number between 0 and infinity

[split lance]

are you fr/

?

im on 400

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah?

[round charm]

oh wait, im on 2400

[lethal lagoon]

Jesus

[nocturne dust]

I messed with it when I set it up

[lethal lagoon]

400?

Is your mousepad the size of your back?

[nocturne dust]

but then I've used that mouse for years so

[lethal lagoon]

[left basin]

i need dd.

[nocturne dust]

ew

[left basin]

I WANT DOUBLE D's

[nocturne dust]

I DON'T BUT I RESPECT YOUR LIFE CHOICES AND THINK YOU ARE A VALID HUMAN BEING

unless you're a disgusting xeno

[split lance]

bigger

[lethal lagoon]

https://humanbenchmark.com/tests/aim

[left basin]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-emoji-sad-emoji-emoji-stare-disgust-gif-405076546600269050

[lethal lagoon]

Post your score

[desert yoke]

What are the best duelling sword blessings?

[split lance]

186ms

[lethal lagoon]

Are you man or machine?

[left basin]

do you do speed

[split lance]

whats the average?

wait

[lethal lagoon]

That's like top 1% lmao

[split lance]

i see the bell curve

also

im lying

[lethal lagoon]

I figured

[lethal lagoon]

you answered too fast

[nocturne dust]

my score:

[lethal lagoon]

that's more like it

[lethal lagoon]

fuck I did 383

But I'm 30

And you are a youngin

So I get a 10% correction

so I win

suck it

[split lance]

heres an actual good perception of aim

[lethal lagoon]

https://humanbenchmark.com/tests/typing

[split lance]

NO

idk how to type

thats not a joke

[lethal lagoon]

Alright do this one then https://humanbenchmark.com/tests/reactiontime

This is a good age test

[split lance]

im not doing more than this

[lethal lagoon]

"Click to keep going"

It takes an average

the first one is always fast

[split lance]

i got a 175

[split lance]

3rd attempt

[lethal lagoon]

Get goomba by this old ass man

My first attempt

[split lance]

i do have pretty slow reaction time tho

[lethal lagoon]

[split lance]

i always have

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah me too, I was a rusher/camper, actual fair fights never worked for me in CoD

[split lance]

im a quick scoping demon on cod

[lethal lagoon]

Nope only first try counts, I'm sticking with that logic and will never break or bend.

[round charm]

could be worse

[lethal lagoon]

Smh, 0/10 direction reading

[split lance]

im going to grind till im in the 200s

[round charm]

oh, its averaging

[split lance]

nvm its getting worse

[split lance]

ge ton

get one

on

gamin time

and i wont leave

excpet to pee

and maybe get watter

[lethal lagoon]

East coast brother.

And I still need to take my dog out, it was raining smh

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah but I have a 10% age bonus

so I win

[round charm]

interesting to see the difference between both my monitors

my 2nd monitor is like 230ms

[lethal lagoon]

The elden ring till 4+ am killed me lmao

[split lance]

brb

gonna borrow my friends 360Hz monitor

[lethal lagoon]

[left basin]

yall from where

[split lance]

and try it again

[lethal lagoon]

East coast U.S

[split lance]

truuuuuuuuue

get on anyway tho

please

[radiant frigate]

headhunter is complete overkill with sg and true aim

[split lance]

@plucky flax wanna play

[lethal lagoon]

Brother it's 7 am in UK

You trying to get that morning breath agent chaos

[split lance]

i sense that hes awake

[lethal lagoon]

[left basin]

that's the best kill

[radiant frigate]

but is it as good as 30% more kill with dumdum?

[left basin]

well can you kill crumshers

[split lance]

i seriously need better positioning

[runic kiln]

mor dakka crit chance go brr

[radiant frigate]

it's an accatran so no

[left basin]

but the veterans can 😦

[plucky flax]

Wtf

Y u no sleep?

[lethal lagoon]

He's west coast

It's still okayish for him

[split lance]

i stg i havent been on all day

actually i should sleep

[plucky flax]

[runic kiln]

yeah just havnt rerolled the accatran since update tho, had that before hand and it was neato burrito

[bold maple]

the 10% attack speed talent is crazy good with duelling sword

alas you cant have brain rupture with it

[radiant frigate]

you can

[left basin]

hye

[radiant frigate]

just can't have bb with mm

[bold maple]

takes up too much point

to climb all the way over

[plucky flax]

Hi

[lethal lagoon]

My Surge staff build

With DS or Illy, both go hard with the 10% buff

[plucky flax]

Worst surge tree I've ever seen

[lethal lagoon]

^ look at this smiter

Disgusting

[compact cargo]

[plucky flax]

🗿

[lethal lagoon]

Unlimited power, more like limited brain power

[clear heath]

damn he gave up the 5% crit node for the conditional 5% crit node

wild

[compact cargo]

No Kinetic deflection

[lethal lagoon]

I like the idea of my teammates warp fire healing me.

[compact cargo]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/392970995155075074/1074295359507009607/4x.gif

[plucky flax]

[lethal lagoon]

I don't like KD, cause if I get used to KD, I need it on every build

[compact cargo]

Yes

[clear heath]

kinda true tbh

[radiant frigate]

more concerned about the peril reduction node under auras

[lethal lagoon]

[left basin]

why block when dodge

[lethal lagoon]

I'm not 100% sure that's on purpose.

[left basin]

why dodge when stagger

why stagger when kill

[lethal lagoon]

Deez nuts

[radiant frigate]

good luck killing staggering and dodging when picking up a teammate

[clear heath]

ok is flayer actually good enough now to take with a surge staff build?

[lethal lagoon]

"picking up a teammate"

https://tenor.com/view/spiderman-j-jonah-jameson-laugh-laughing-lol-gif-4596905

[radiant frigate]

no res gang?

[clear heath]

why res when i can get more spectators instead?

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/tempting-proposition-offer-sadly-i-must-say-no-the-witcher-yennifer-gif-16021641

[lethal lagoon]

I only pick up a teammate if I know they will die shortly after because they can't handle the enviroment I revived them in.

(I'm actually way too nice and quick about revives and resuces)

[jovial juniper]

I pick up teammates so they can proc unlucky for some

[lethal lagoon]

I kinda wanna run that now

[left basin]

added mods > didnt work > reapplied > relaunched > tried to figure out what the fuck is wrong > didn't save txt > relaunched > some mods missing > forgot to add mods that dl'd

[compact cargo]

Picking up pubers
Ignore them do they quit and get replaced

[left basin]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-sad-cat-cat-cry-cat-cry-gif-18340701370131332749

2 days 4 hrs sleep isn't my prime

i fucking forgot a mod agin

[ivory path]

Does empowered psionics affect kinetic flayer?

[jovial juniper]

Yes

1800 or so to cara with EP

Vs 1300 without

Doesn't eat the EP charge as well

It also seems like BB can proc flayer

I just one hit a Crusher

For 3600 hp

💀

[ivory path]

whats flayer again?

oh

kinetic

[jovial juniper]

[ivory path]

Sorry putting together build while glancing at chat

[ivory path]

just burst 2 brains in one head? lol

[jovial juniper]

Targets the right and left side

[plucky flax]

Does it? When I play ep bb the flayer proc seems to be just regular bb.

[ivory path]

wonder if kinetic can proc this as well

[spiral minnow]

how do u set up that macro? i tryied it manually, but its hard to keep it up constantly and u jsuthave to focus on it too much rather than on other things

[ivory path]

When you guys make a build, how many sources of toughness replenishment do you try to include? Hard to gauge how tanky ill be prior to getting into a round.

[uncut sinew]

i'd recommend to atleast have soulstealer and quietude

usually that's enough

[jovial juniper]

1800 with EP

1387 without

So unless there's some shenanigans going on behind the scenes
EP flayer should be a thing against all enemies

(nice video quality 💀)

I also mentioned that BB could proc Flayer

[spiral minnow]

hi, tryied to make macro for quellcanceling myself, so i added macro option to my razer which was missing whole time in the options and made this quell cancel macro on repeat while holding button, is that right or should i adjust anything? ty

[broken carbon]

brain burst needs to have its unyielding buffed to be able to kill bulwarks in 2 EP charges again

3 charges to kill a bulwark vs 2 for a crusher is very stupid

[compact cargo]

Not an issue for gunker

BB
Blast the head

Or trickshot assail

If ur funny

[plucky flax]

I see.

[spiral minnow]

also... i have only this blue electro staff and when i see those stats now i just hope quell speed is the dump stat rn xD is it?

oh, so found another, which one to keep ideally?

[plucky flax]

Find one with 60 warp resist.

[spiral minnow]

crap, ok, ty .)

brunt just gives me all with 80 xDD

300k less money but .)

[left basin]

i have a 502, it has a very hacky programmable thing in it

as in, badly made (but native to my mouse)

logitech sucks mega ass when making software

otherwise you'd have to look for some software.

[desert yoke]

just watched a 1-shot mutie kill three of our squad

[left basin]

WHHHHAT?

[desert yoke]

if only any one of the 3 veterans on my team had some sort of weapon to shoot it with

[left basin]

set up 0.5 second durations between actions

[sterile vale]

BB has been able to proc flayer since before the class rework

[spiral minnow]

found the option in my razor synapsae even tho i have basic razer mouse, had to download macro module and tryied it, but the effects were staggering itself with most numbers i tryied

[left basin]

as in lmb 50ms r 50ms lmb

[spiral minnow]

tryied 0,5 and it was slower than fullauto mod, got around 0.17-0.20 to be more effective, but with staggering effect .(

[left basin]

try playing around with that, see if that works

[spiral minnow]

yeah, will try but rn i jwill jsut enjoy the game with full auto and worry about exact number later .)

[left basin]

it's still very powerful even without this

[spiral minnow]

any tips on perks for surge staff? i suppose crit and? ty

[flint pawn]

help I'm kinda liking Obscurus

I'm going to commit a crime

[left basin]

unsure, since there's no direct breakpoint. play around in psyk, see what you like the least

flak seems the most reasonable + crit

[radiant frigate]

you will find your way back to the others in time

[plucky flax]

Built different

[deep pine]

Does this work on staff primary attack?

[devout sluice]

It affects everything so yes technically, but how much it does needs to be tested per case

Cleave also does not mean you'll do more damage to more targets, you'll just punch through more