psyker-class

[split lance]

PLEASE

PLEASE

[lethal lagoon]

It's up atm

So 4th not hugely needed

plus we are 0/10 now

[split lance]

NEEEES

wait

[lethal lagoon]

And we can wait for harley this way

[split lance]

You ever realize

[lethal lagoon]

No.

[split lance]

We don’t NEED A PSYKER

[lethal lagoon]

No.

Heresy.

Stop it.

[nocturne dust]

[wind spruce]

i hope you get hemarrhoids

and like real soon too

[potent echo]

Is auric exemplar 10 games without dying

[lethal lagoon]

Without your warpfire to steal, I was danking.

Yeah

We are spamming train

It's fun

I've gotton crazy good at teh puzzle lmao

[potent echo]

I feel like the puzzle is lying

Doesn't matter how center it is

[lethal lagoon]

Nah, it's WAAAY faster now

[wind spruce]

https://outplayed.tv/warhammer-40k-darktide/RQBW6Q

for anyone that was wondering what happens when u charge a BB at the end of warp unbound...

[lethal lagoon]

We got to the boss at like half way on teh timer

[split lance]

jokes on you i already got em

[strong gulch]

Yip. Found out on purg

If you charge up at 100 with WU and don't finish the cast before WU ends, u explode

[elder glade]

Become bounded

[languid dragon]

is the recon las gun any good on psycher? its kinda fun to use

[wind spruce]

its insanely good

[languid dragon]

oh nice I thought as much im just messing around and it seemed like a fun weapon

0 recoil uzi rifle thingo

[wind spruce]

https://discordapp.com/channels/727074276724965407/1158835513789272126/1293589941514670082

[languid dragon]

hahaha its called gunker

[narrow herald]

for gun psyker what blessings do yall go for on the DS? 🤔

[split lance]

flak unyeiliding

[narrow herald]

blessings not perks

[split lance]

oh

lmao

uncanny shred

same as without

as staff i mean

[narrow herald]

people still use shred?

[wind spruce]

we are clever boi

[wind spruce]

ew no

uncanny riposte

[narrow herald]

yeah riposte sounds much better

[split lance]

riposte is for losers

[wind spruce]

shred drops off way to often, especially if youre using melee attacks for movement speed (which you should)

[strong gulch]

imagine dodging

[narrow herald]

I use thrust on most of my staff builds, but for gun psyker I am assuming that riposte or precog would be better

since you will be in melee much more often and have PG stacking finesse

[wind spruce]

never use precog

the uptime isnt good enough

[narrow herald]

yes but precog is pretty nasty if you time it perfectly every time 😩

[wind spruce]

also contrary to intuition, once you have the finesse from DD you actually start getting more percentage value from crit than you do from DD

[narrow herald]

unfortuantly it is only really usable on zealot unless you are a god in the game

[wind spruce]

the issue isnt just that you have to have good timing, its that things arent always attacking you to be dodged

having 3x the duration largely solves this

[narrow herald]

yes I know but ive seen some nasty zealot combos with thrust and precog

😩

i can cope every once in a while

i might also use the riposte/uncanny DS on my voidstrike build

[languid dragon]

how does it compare to the voidblast soul blaze set up?

[narrow herald]

but usually thrust is more consistent for me unless I am going PG

[wind spruce]

there's absolutely no reason to compare them, they are both very good builds

[wind spruce]

on voidstrike i run relentless strikes because the main thing my duelling sword is needed for is killing monstrosities

and i like thrust on melee only maelstrom, but im not totally convinced its the pick yet outside that

what breakpoints are you using it for?

[split lance]

wanna run train

[narrow herald]

one shotting muties, even on body non crits

[narrow herald]

i cant im going to bed soon 😔

maybe 2morrow

[digital narwhal]

[wind spruce]

justifiable

(very)

[narrow herald]

2 shotting crushers too, but I realized that I am only taking the DS out to deal with muties or crushers

That's about it

[wind spruce]

except that your breakpoint isnt true

[narrow herald]

2 full thrusts don't kill a crusher?

[wind spruce]

nah the mutant thing

[narrow herald]

How

[wind spruce]

it doesnt one shot them

https://outplayed.tv/warhammer-40k-darktide/4Vwvo7

took all of 60s to test it

thats with warp charges and maniacs perk

[narrow herald]

I swear I always one shot them

However I am wondering if I should then remove mutant perk

Because with thrust it might be overkill

[wind spruce]

probably, yeah

[narrow herald]

But then again it lowers the required time to wind up the thrust

So even as a breakpoint it is still viable

[wind spruce]

If you have the cognitive ability to know when you've got the right amount of warp charges and peril to only need 1 stack of thrust instead of 2 and then meaningfully execute that you must be very good

Oh and uncanny strike, too.

[flint pawn]

I haven't played my psyker properly in like 2 weeks and now I'm dying left and right 😔

[ornate hamlet]

Mettle moment?

[lyric burrow]

lmao

[wind spruce]

Hahah what a scrub

[lyric burrow]

the infamous one bruiser

[wind spruce]

@split lance all that mass didn't help you there did it big boy

[lyric burrow]

reminds me of watching one smite psyker die to a poxwalker earlier today

[lethal lagoon]

Went uh... little too far there.

[lyric burrow]

well i didnt actually see it

but when i ran back it was one poxwalker

[lethal lagoon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1004447866250613048/1293777782727512064/967ute.gif

[feral knoll]

Heya. Been playing Recon Lasgun Scrier’s and it’s awesome. However. Unsure on the melee tk use

I like Deimos. But wanted to try a different weapon. Suggestions?

[split lance]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1004447866250613048/1293778694535512115/967v2e.gif

[lethal lagoon]

^ me telling tren not to stay in the front.

[wind spruce]

Duelling sword

Or knife

[split lance]

join us

[feral knoll]

Chain Axe on psyker is a little silly when the Scrier’s buffs add up

Which one is better overall?

[flint pawn]

Q: Does Perfect Timing affect Soulblaze from Purgatus?

[sacred crane]

@lethal lagoon am back, but must be quiet

[lethal lagoon]

Aye

Join up on any of us

[rapid cliff]

I'm dumb ass hell is the way to keep the torrent of lightning on the staff the same as the lightning ability where you hold right click and click left on and off to charge

i've had it where i just like do short bursts of lightning but i had the buttons wrong

[lethal lagoon]

3117858534

[potent echo]

Yes

[sacred crane]

Game is loading up

might go autopistol, but GOD i dont have a good one to level with

[lethal lagoon]

We are trying to do exemplar, so grab something leveled

[sacred crane]

@split lance 50% mobility for boltpistol

then collatoral

[wind spruce]

There is no torrent of lightning on the staff

[potent echo]

Grab EP smite

4 eepy smite easy exemplar

[rapid cliff]

oh ok

[lethal lagoon]

Might as well do auric heresy then

[potent echo]

True

[lyric burrow]

r/brandnewsentence

[kindred edge]

Perks and blessings on trauma staff?

[near wyvern]

Thx, will add with attributions

[potent echo]

#psyker-class message

[fiery wigeon]

oh w o w

[flint pawn]

Maximum Toughness Psyker time

🤣

[nocturne dust]

Now do it on Ogryn

[flint pawn]

I don't have the curios I think but max Toughness on Ogryn is somewhere like 250 260

I know I've gotten close

https://outplayed.tv/media/EO4jWa

[nocturne dust]

I'm not sure the max but I know the number is deceptive in comparison since they can get a lot more damage reduction

[flint pawn]

This is pre-update and I was using 16s I think, also no +5%s

https://outplayed.tv/media/XKr6X7

[potent echo]

It's just not the same after the FNP nerf

Used to eat reapers and gunners

[nocturne dust]

Ogryn: "That's not a gun. This is a gun." returns fire

[flint pawn]

hmm let me see how well what I have works now

[nocturne dust]

FNP didn't deserve this

[flint pawn]

what was the FNP nerf?

[potent echo]

It kinda did

Made it multiplicative instead of additive

[nocturne dust]

Over everything else?

[potent echo]

One step at a time

Baby steps

[nocturne dust]

No, illegal, all change all now

[potent echo]

Also assail not getting uncanny and stuff like that

But it still gets puncture

Same as vet grenades

Baby steps

[flint pawn]

There is an even bigger nerf

They moved one of the 10% TDR nodes and now it's literally impossible to get every toughness + tdr node and FNP at once 😔

exactly 1 point short

[nocturne dust]

didn't they also recently reduce FNP's numbers

[lethal lagoon]

semi-recently yeah

[nocturne dust]

Wdym, it was just last we...

[lethal lagoon]

the FNP berf?

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/savingprivateryan-ww2-old-soldier-matt-damon-gif-4203998

[lethal lagoon]

Wait they nerfed it twice?

[flint pawn]

I think I sold two of my tough curios because they were 15%s :(

anyways the loss of tdr is felt

cult gunners are able to break my toughness before reloading

but probably only because I have only 1 tough curio now

only 202 toughness

if I had more I'd still endure it

[nocturne dust]

How dare they

[flint pawn]

however Ogryns can still get 579 HP and that will simply have to do

welp back to toughness tank psyker

which I will now be referring to as Tanker

oh god I have to sacrifice important stuff to get keystones

[ornate hamlet]

Then it was not important

[round charm]

i dont want to level this any more, right? less collat the better?

[red bay]

whats the dump stat for the voidstrike staff?

[round charm]

voidstrike is radius iirc

[nocturne dust]

some like to dump warp resistance. Those people are wrong.

[flint pawn]

Dump damage

who needs damage anyway

[red bay]

whats the dump stat for the force sword?

[round charm]

dont you only dump damage on inferno or something?

[flint pawn]

Mobility I'm guessing

[nocturne dust]

warp resistance or mobility

[nocturne dust]

No

It used to be okay to dump damage on inferno, but then it got blaze away which amps direct damage and makes it actually useful, so now the dump is just warp res for it

[round charm]

ah, ok

plague ogryn knocked someone off level to a standable point

[potent echo]

Been here multiple times

[nocturne dust]

I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite spot on Atoma.

[spiral minnow]

hi, just saw surge bolt spam vid which i stumbled upon on reddit and when someone told me about it few days back here, i was like, nah, must be weak... but the cadency of machine gun and the results... woah... how to make it work? any tips n tricks? .) also the constant clicking will probably ruin my hand, so is there some mod or macro for the spamquell? ty

[nocturne dust]

FullAuto is the mod

[spiral minnow]

ty, so this and clicking quell between?
also any specific build for it? i suppose left tree for less peril generation?
and why they use surge staff? doesnt every staff (apart form purgatus) have same lmb bolt attack?

[desert yoke]

Tried playing an infinite block psyker and it didn’t feel too great

It seems like things either hit me for a fraction of a percent of peril
Or they just went through my block and oneshot me

[nocturne dust]

No you can't quell cancel with FullAuto. The build works well enough without quell cancelling, but if you really want to use quell cancelling you might have to do it manually.

Every staff aside from purgatus does get the bolts, but surge has the crit stat on it and lmbs like crits

[nocturne dust]

overheads will ignore blocks

This is the talent tree I recommend for lmb spam if you want maximum efficiency, it also lets you be a disgusting EP smite shrieker

but, to note, I find it an incredibly boring and annoying way to play which is why I don't really use it. There's probably plenty more experienced in lmb spam in this chat.

and this is how you would build the staff

Note that surge staff has been renamed to electrokinetic staff

[desert yoke]

That’s the build yeah, I didn’t know overheads went through
Is that a bug?

[nocturne dust]

No

[desert yoke]

Idk how to feel about the staff honestly

[nocturne dust]

They're designed to break blocks, unfortunately. Only shields/parries can stop it (Devil's Claw, Ogryn's shield)

[spiral minnow]

i played purgatus lmb build back in the day and u just stagger stagger stagger and that was all i could do in higher difficulties xD so i will survive this i guess .)

[nocturne dust]

It is a build that's very viable in auric. It's probably one of the best builds out there if you quell cancel (or just spam shriek and smite because smite)

[desert yoke]

Is there anything stopping you from just infinitely parrying with the Devils claw?

I don’t really use it

[nocturne dust]

No

[desert yoke]

So would the best infinite block build not just be a DC? 💀

[nocturne dust]

https://youtu.be/0jd_cVHxR3E

This is me spamming 1 button, the special button, and nothing else on a build not meant for melee

[nocturne dust]

wdym by DC?

[desert yoke]

Devils claw

[nocturne dust]

ah, lol

Yes, the claw is probably the best except it doesn't block ranged, whereas force swords do

also the claw sucks against heavy armor unless you build very precisely to fight it

[desert yoke]

Ahhh right

[nocturne dust]

(with a blessing, deflector)

[wind spruce]

Yeah it's that poxwalker that eats your parry right before a crusher squashes you

[desert yoke]

That was the thing with the build I think, idrk how to use the force sword well

[nocturne dust]

They buffed the parry

It keeps blocking even after it parries for a bit

not sure if it still blocks overheads tho

[wind spruce]

That just closes the gap between parrying an enemy and getting hit by that same enemy before you riposte

Doesn't stop your parry getting eaten by a different enemy

[nocturne dust]

sure, but then you can just parry again

with a single stamina curio and ER, you get like 30% peril from a crusher overhead

[desert yoke]

The demonhost when the veteran manages to parry their magic, somehow

[nocturne dust]

so you can literally parry 3 crusher overheads in a row before even worrying about stamina

[desert yoke]

They should have a psyker mage enemy lol

[nocturne dust]

That's the daemonhost

[desert yoke]

Yeah but like a non ‘boss’ one

[nocturne dust]

would have to be a pretty dinky psyker then, and would be fighting shooters for a place probably

I guess they could be some sort of special

I don't want psykers tho, I want genestealers

[split lance]

Tyranid scum

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/bricky-bricky-bugs-40k-warhammer-40k-tyranids-gif-494463097919101862

[spiral minnow]

were u talking about purgatus or the autobolting? .)

[nocturne dust]

lmb spam

[desert yoke]

tyrannids really don’t interest me tbh

I haven’t really played much of SM2 partly because I just am not very interested in the bugs

[split lance]

https://tenor.com/view/gadriel-space-marine-2-warhammer-space-marine-warhammer-40000-gif-336276864448769752

[nocturne dust]

I mean the actual tyranids don't interest me

I'm more interested in the genestealers i.e. the stage before just buggagedon

[desert yoke]

A new enemy army could be cool, but it could split the devs attention a bit

[nocturne dust]

From what, their vacation?

[desert yoke]

Could be like HD2 where they have 30k people fighting terminids and 2k people fighting automatons lol

[nocturne dust]

I mean, they already solved that problem in Vermintide

Mixing factions.

[sacred crane]

https://tenor.com/view/tattletail-donttattle-run-fear-escape-gif-11606972142184926492

[fresh reef]

Siblings, I have some unfortunate news

I enjoy deadlock

[nocturne dust]

ew

[sacred crane]

https://tenor.com/view/gmd-giantmilkdud-roleplay-judge-gif-25935023

[fresh reef]

I pray this does not affect my personal hygiene

[sacred crane]

too late

[spice veldt]

Moba player now

lmaaaaoo

[sacred crane]

i can already smell the armpit sweat

[spice veldt]

highly lacking in anti perspirant

the next summer will consume you

[fresh reef]

Ironically I'm playing it to turn my brain off lol

[nocturne dust]

I think that's called sleep

[fresh reef]

Pick someone else's build, buy shit in order and just walk into lanes and kill things

It's quite relaxing

[nocturne dust]

Wack, I don't play PvP games because I find them way too stressful

[fresh reef]

That's valid as hell

[spice veldt]

my only reason to not play it is having to ask for an invite from the 1 trillion people already playing it

and because I don't think I can split my time well if I add in another game

[nocturne dust]

I'd play a single match of Counterstrike and then stop because I had the adrenaline shakes

[fresh reef]

I could send ya an invite if you want

Just pass me your steam code

[spice veldt]

you will not take me into a black hole

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/its-a-trick-star-wars-obi-wan-resto-send-no-reply-gif-26611418

[fresh reef]

Correct response

Good choice

[spice veldt]

I am a man of indomitable will

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/focus-commitment-will-gif-19916882

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/war-hammer-hammer-gif-25704599

I really should try to play something other than psyker, lol

[fresh reef]

This is an extremely satisfying gif

[spice veldt]

I am a highly heterosexual person, contrary to the majority of this discord

[fresh reef]

Playing mobas doesn't make you ga-

Yeah, nope, can't say that with a straight face

[nocturne dust]

You are correct, most here are emperorsexual

[spice veldt]

in other words, you're all ga

[strong gulch]

Huh. How is Crucian Roulette with the Surety of Arms talent vs surgical on Zarona revolver?

[nocturne dust]

Isn't it worse since Crucian increases crit only as you empty the mag?

You'd have to be dumping the ammo a lot for it to compare

[strong gulch]

That's why I'm asking in combination with surety of arms.

[nocturne dust]

Well, it's 6% per round and the gun has a mag of 5 iirc, so even at its best its 24% for a single shot, whereas surgical only requires waiting like a second to fire to get 30% and can stack up to 100%

I feel like regardless of reload speed, surgical is better

[strong gulch]

Hmm, I guess I was just excited for a different blessing and some that doesn't require waiting.

[nocturne dust]

I mean, when I use zarona on zealot I don't wait

surgical just stacks so fast

[strong gulch]

I've just had too many instances of needing to shoot faster than the stacks add up at all and repeatedly missing crits. More bad luck than not on the crit RNG. Also, I don't like SG with Zarona, but that means peril can be annoying to keep up.

[nocturne dust]

Fair, that's me with my voidstrike never surging

[strong gulch]

Surety can help keep peril up, BUT if trying to stack for CR, a lot of peril can be generated to the point of not having room for assail or SG.

[dull osprey]

Another day another reddit thread about smite not dealing damage

[plucky flax]

Reject revolver embrace bistol

[nocturne dust]

I dunno, I just ignore crit fishing and double tap everything with the Zarona

[plucky flax]

All the coolest cats use bistols

[dull osprey]

Hell no

Pistol is so slow i fall asleep inbetween shots

[nocturne dust]

but then I'd have to play something other than psyker

I refuse to not use a staff

[strong gulch]

good point

[plucky flax]

Bistol on psyker is exception.

It's cool.

Don't use revolver/vraks/recon las.

[nocturne dust]

No exceptions.

[plucky flax]

[nocturne dust]

Well, actually, I would be tempted by agrippina brauto if it was cool and good.

[lethal lagoon]

iT IS

[dull osprey]

Im no lore nerd but im interested about what people find cool about bistol

[nocturne dust]

It's... acceptable I guess.

[dull osprey]

Its an ugly slow lump of tincan

[lethal lagoon]

Your face is acceptable I guess.

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/face-off-nicolas-cage-gif-15023880

[worldly elm]

Bistol feels like a worse revolver tbh

[dull osprey]

Cuz it is

[worldly elm]

Its also half as cool

[dull osprey]

Its the epitome of "mom can we have revolver" meme

[plucky flax]

It's a boltgun but it's smol and cute.

[worldly elm]

Why use an ugly ass brick when you can be a cool desperado

And also snipe snipers from across the map

[plucky flax]

Bistol carried me to a 1mil damage game.

[nocturne dust]

I can make no comments as I have not used guns since Unlocked and Loaded

[dull osprey]

Tbh im not sold on revolver either aethestically

[plucky flax]

It must be good.

[nocturne dust]

Were you using soulblaze tho

[dull osprey]

Its 40k in the future and instead of using magic pistol and laser boxes we have.... A revolver

[plucky flax]

Shhhhh

[worldly elm]

If it aint broke

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/jail-believe-it-or-not-believe-it-or-not-jail-parks-and-rec-gif-3275634010746838096

[plucky flax]

Only 219k from soulblaze.

[nocturne dust]

No shriek? Smh my head

[plucky flax]

Bistol supremecy.

[dull osprey]

Where my sound based modular weapons from dune

[nocturne dust]

which of those numbers is melee damage

[plucky flax]

244.9k melee damage?

[worldly elm]

You some kinda noise marine sympathiser or something

[nocturne dust]

How long was the match?

[plucky flax]

40 mins

It was extremely painful.

[dull osprey]

No but srsl i allways laughed about 40k in terms of this. 40k years of nonstop war and 0 innvotaion most of the guns are old

[plucky flax]

This is how cool it is https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1292602024759656498/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2024.10.06_-_22.52.24.10-00.00.13.706-00.00.29.980.mp4?ex=67084972&is=6706f7f2&hm=1ce518835a3c943c0b225c3f59f289bb000e1b6352c7c8bbbcaeaadad5c8403b&

Spectated me by your truly clad.

[worldly elm]

To be fair the impirium kinda revolves around having their heads up their asses and thinking backwards

[dull osprey]

Oh so its like balkan

[nocturne dust]

wait a minute, this isn't a psyker melee weapon

[plucky flax]

That was a different game.

[dull osprey]

Thats a veteran

[plucky flax]

Also bistol is a weapon with correct reload animation.

Doesn't rack the charging handle everytime.

Only when empty.

Veri cool

[echo root]

Does it come with 1 extra shot if you reload without emptying it as well?

[plucky flax]

No.

This is not battlefield.

[potent echo]

When will they fix revolver

[echo root]

I prefer Dayz where you can manually chamber bullets then slap the mag in.

[plucky flax]

Tarkov best reload animation.

[nocturne dust]

I prefer staves where the reloads are made up and it's all magic

[plucky flax]

Oh the fanning revolver?

[potent echo]

Both

If you cancel the reload they will keep emptying the chambers lol

[plucky flax]

That's why revolver stinky.

[echo root]

I thought this was only an issue with the one that can fan the hammer

[split lance]

geet on

[plucky flax]

What do you want my son?

I can only play 1 or 2 game I have to go run today. ALready skipped it yesterday.

[split lance]

we still get to play tho 😈

[potent echo]

Which servers y'all usually play on

[plucky flax]

US East I guess.

Do you have 2 more for twins or?

[split lance]

nah lets do mael or some

able to vc?

[plucky flax]

Ye

[plucky flax]

Joining?

[split lance]

im in 60

69

[potent echo]

In 4 hours

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/jameson-laugh-cackling-lmao-lol-gif-11834142

[plucky flax]

Classic clandisteum

You think you're safe at the start. Barrel/burster always find a way

[sage vigil]

Had a beast of nurgle spawn there it sucked

[cosmic sigil]

Training for speedrunning I see

[dull osprey]

The only map where i straight aprint ahead to explode every barrel idc about teammates

Fuk 'em barrela

[potent echo]

How are y'alls progress on the 3000 barrel kill penance

[dull osprey]

O_o

Fine

https://tenor.com/view/cry-crying-cat-crying-cat-cry-why-gif-27571714

[wind spruce]

You could try destroying the barrels

[dull osprey]

Hell no

Seeing flying unga bunga makes brain happy

[cosmic sigil]

i had a run yesterday with the same people from beginning to the start, no barreling at the beginning, no death during the first event... oh wait, we had a smyker that explains why

[plucky flax]

@split lance https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/286

@split lance gimp moment.

[nocturne dust]

When your pet has zoomies

[plucky flax]

I felt so bad I ruined his 360 slide headshot poke. 😦

[split lance]

why does damage have to be so low

[split lance]

poor guy

that 360 was sick tho ngl

[plucky flax]

Man has to play on ultra high sensitivity

Or he has massive desk

[split lance]

bois

what dpi yall on

im on 400

i feel its time for a change

i have a pretty big mousepad

i got into aim training like a fucking nerd

[plucky flax]

Hrm when I am on my pc with 27" monitor I think I am 400~600 can't remember.

[nocturne dust]

Idk I adjust the slider until the good movement happens. I think I have 600 dpi?

[plucky flax]

On my laptop with limited space I am on 1000 lol

17" laptop screen

[nocturne dust]

Yeesh, 600 is my limit otherwise I can't do long distance aim

or at least whatever it currently is

which I think is 600

[split lance]

600 is foul

its gotta be a multiple of 400

[nocturne dust]

Go 800 then

[split lance]

800 was it for a bit

im actually thinking of 1200

[plucky flax]

It depends on screen size tho

[nocturne dust]

Actually just set it to the max and see what happens

[plucky flax]

Small screen and small dpi is impossible

Why my pc with 4090 have to break

[nocturne dust]

Because you used to much money

[split lance]

ill send feet pics for that gpu

[split lance]

27in monitor

[plucky flax]

My laptop has 4080 mobile

It's equivalent to like 3080 desktop I think

[split lance]

holly

bruh

how many frames ya getting

[plucky flax]

I play with frames gen

So it's not real frames

[nocturne dust]

ew

[split lance]

eweweweweeweweeweewwewewewewewewewewew

[plucky flax]

Just get a 40s series card

[split lance]

https://tenor.com/view/block-button-block-button-peter-peter-griffin-gif-20311660

[plucky flax]

[split lance]

3090 is what im getting

[nocturne dust]

I think I have a 4060?

[split lance]

well i already have it

[plucky flax]

4060 can have frames gen

[split lance]

but im missing the power adapter

[nocturne dust]

something like that. They're all big numbers to me.

[split lance]

3060ti has it too

[nocturne dust]

Sure but I turn it off.

[plucky flax]

You can play fsr frames gen instead

Don't think it's as good as nvidia frames gen tho

[split lance]

wait is this even fucking usable

[split lance]

oooh its like a nvidia 40 series thing?

i thought you were talking about the dlss or something

[plucky flax]

Yeah only 40s series card can get nvidia frames gen

[split lance]

oh

sadge

[plucky flax]

Dlss is a different thing

[split lance]

chaos

when you get 5090

will you keep me in mind for ur 4090

[plucky flax]

I won't buy it when it comes out

[split lance]

ill send feet pics or something

[plucky flax]

4090 will still be good

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, I only get a new card when I absolutely need to

[split lance]

this is a good vraks right?

[nocturne dust]

my last card was a 1060

[nocturne dust]

I mean the max stats look good, yeh

[plucky flax]

5090 launches with an incredible price of $2.5k

Pls buy

(I have stocks in nvidia)

[nocturne dust]

at least it's not an h100

Can you imagine getting an h100 for gaming?

[split lance]

thats more money than i have in all my bank accounts combined

[plucky flax]

You should think about saving more.

How old are you?

[nocturne dust]

Rude question Adults can be broke too

[plucky flax]

I know but a lot of adults spend too much on random shits

[nocturne dust]

Fair. Remember kids, you don't need to be old to be rich, just have a rich parent.

[split lance]

23

all my money goes to gym and food

im not actually that broke

but stillbroke

omg look

[round charm]

is crit chance all additive, or does each gun have its own base it multiplies off of?

[radiant frigate]

additive

some weapons have extra crit but it is rare

[potent echo]

Anyone living US willing to commit a crime and ship me a GPU for cheap (I'm kidding)

[brazen rampart]

The only weapons I know that have inherent higher crit bases are tac axes, revolvers, and the surge staff.

[mossy oyster]

(knives)

[brazen rampart]

(I will NOT be calling it "electrokinetic")

[radiant frigate]

i am told laspistol does too

[brazen rampart]

Right right knives have higher crit chance but don't have a critical bonus stat.

[potent echo]

The lowest priced 4090 I can buy is like 2300USD

[radiant frigate]

imagine how many force greatswords you could get at that price

[potent echo]

Exactly zero

[radiant frigate]

[round charm]

alright, which one of you was the level 2900 i just played a game with

[quartz barn]

Im only +330

[dull osprey]

From sykers skudie is the highest i know

Ans i dont think she is the highest

[quartz barn]

Ive seen a handfull of 2000+

But remember that this is on one char so idk

[dull osprey]

Well dt is not gud enuf for me over vt to sink my time into it

Its fun once in a while but cmon man

Chaos wastes

[wind spruce]

Amazing story

[lusty lake]

honestly, this class is pretty funny to use

[plucky flax]

It's the best.

[dull osprey]

For falling asleep ogryn beats it

[lusty lake]

Rezed a Veteran and he screamed for me to get away from him

was pretty funny

[plucky flax]

Ogryn is too fat I can't play it well.

[radiant frigate]

i have seen one 2000+

i have also seen them leave when things got bad

i also forgot the name but they are technically in this chat

[upper sun]

buy horse creatine instead

[nocturne dust]

Me joining near the end of the session and watching everyone else get to mess around with cool stuff:

[plucky flax]

Buy e-girl's bath water.

Gives you big muscles.

[nocturne dust]

Buy slaves to douse you in e-girl bath water, the way the God Emperor intended

Sorry, not slaves, servitors.

[upper sun]

the vitors makes it ok 🙂

[nocturne dust]

It's okay if there's a skull visible.

[upper sun]

HUH

WHERE ARE THE WEAPON SKINS

I HAVE TO WAIT TWO MORE WEEKS FOR WEAPON SKINS?

[nocturne dust]

Don't buy weapon skins and you won't have to wait

[radiant frigate]

i would buy weapon skins for force greatsword (wink wink nudge nudge)

[quartz barn]

Use weapon custom so you already have the "new" skins

Usually been sitting in the database for a few weeks if not months already

[languid dragon]

Is there a dump stat for the combat blade?

[vestal fulcrum]

Mobility

[potent echo]

Penetration

[vestal fulcrum]

All other modifiers kind of influence damage

[potent echo]

With uncanny you don't need pen

[languid dragon]

uncanny is bait tbh

[potent echo]

Nuh uh

[vestal fulcrum]

You first need to stack Uncanny to deal normal damage, though - Penetration gives you frontloaded ADMs

[potent echo]

Only flak and cara

[vestal fulcrum]

Yeah, but then do you need Uncanny if you have solid-er ADMs against Carapace?

[weary crane]

Wdum

[vestal fulcrum]

Unless you take, IDK, Flesh Tearer for your second blessing

[weary crane]

It's just raw damage vs armoured

[vestal fulcrum]

Then whatever

[weary crane]

Rending is a debuff not a buff

[potent echo]

Uncanny still bis for psyker

Unless the crit lords gonna rise up

[vestal fulcrum]

Rending is a buff
Brittleness is a debuff
Both use the same function that increases ADMs of your/somebody else’s weapons against Flak/Cara/Maniac/Unyielding armour types

[nocturne dust]

Rending is a debuff because it's a crutch, you shouldn't use it /s

[wind spruce]

I tested that and it was a surprisingly larger damage difference than expected

[potent echo]

[languid dragon]

flesh/ripost or flesh/mercy feel much more consistant tbh

than uncanny

[wind spruce]

Have fun taking 6 headshots to kill a crusher

[potent echo]

I play knife by spamming push attacks

[wind spruce]

You know what's underwhelming af

Flesh tearer

[potent echo]

Flesh tearer without zealot talent synergy is bleg

Scourge or smth

[wind spruce]

This was my bleed damage on a game where I was using it a bunch on monstrosities

[vestal fulcrum]

I was expecting to see Precog mentioned

unless, you know, Precog is just shit ergo not worth mentioning

[potent echo]

Burning damage huh

Infernus?

[wind spruce]

It's so good

[potent echo]

How do you get so much burn wtf

[radiant frigate]

well

200k boss damage

[wind spruce]

Stacking it on monstrosities and letting it burn

[radiant frigate]

• accatran lasgun or laspistol

[potent echo]

That means you aren't knifing them

[radiant frigate]

• a bit of scrying

[potent echo]

Liar spotted

[radiant frigate]

you can do both

[wind spruce]

Was doing both hehe

[radiant frigate]

that's like peak bp zealot gameplay

see things? m1 m1 m1 m1 m1 m1 m1

[wind spruce]

But my point is if it wasn't a monstrous mael bleed would've done wayyy less

[potent echo]

M1 🤢

[radiant frigate]

knife laspistol be like that

see a heretic? lights to the head

bigger heretic? lights to the head

armored big heretic? yup lights to the head

[potent echo]

Push attack tho

[plucky flax]

On vet but still. Just hishock game no extra monsters.

107 kills with bleed.

[radiant frigate]

oh my lord the crit chance crit damage flesh tearer riposte knife

tannercore

[plucky flax]

Crit damage?

[radiant frigate]

and the crit chance crit damage surge surge

[plucky flax]

^

[upper sun]

scourge uncanny is all you need

[potent echo]

Who is that cursed individual

[upper sun]

you can knife punch crushers to death

[potent echo]

The staff wasnt even orange

Punch is a trap

[plucky flax]

Oh.

That psyker is built different.

He was actually really good.

[weary crane]

But damage buff doesnt cap right? It would just stack with pen?

[plucky flax]

(even if he died twice)

[potent echo]

Who needs good builds when you play well

[plucky flax]

But never felt like he was a hindrance.

[radiant frigate]

just critmaxxing

[upper sun]

the zealot was such a hindrance always leaving the team when bosses came

[wind spruce]

And it still only did 24k damage 💀

[potent echo]

They were probably assail/surge spamming

[plucky flax]

2B so it was smite.

[potent echo]

And yea the bleed isn't even 20% of the melee damage

[plucky flax]

I think bleed is good and worth it.

On all classes with knife.

[vestal fulcrum]

It caps at 100% and then offers diminishing returns in form of % rending value being converted to damage, but only at 4:1 exchange rate

I don’t know why this matters though, don’t dump Penetration

And ideally don’t use US

[potent echo]

I won't complain about build if they are top2 scoreboard

Fine I guess no dump pen on knife 🫃

[plucky flax]

I personally don't. I go 60 mobility

I am kind of addicted to no horde clear vet meme

Smoke speed aura stealth knife bistol is built different

[radiant frigate]

i am not complaining, just terrified

[plucky flax]

Can easily use a combat axe or p sword but it's funny to shank a horde

[potent echo]

True

[vestal fulcrum]

Anything not having VoC as the pillar of the build is worthy of praise

[plucky flax]

Fair. Too many p shouts around. What if I don't want yellow toughness

[quartz barn]

Ran into a special ping vet that had ping on lmb, while running the single shot las gun

[potent echo]

But what if I am bad at the game 🥹

[quartz barn]

But they would spam shoot faster than their gun could fire......

[potent echo]

Lessannoyingping mod is more or less necessary

[radiant frigate]

what about boneless voc

(no overtoughness)

[vestal fulcrum]

They feed their parrot chicken

I play like that constantly

Because I don’t play VoC at all if I can help it

[upper sun]

VoC should restore 100% of toughness factoring in other VoC stacks

also voice should stack to 5

[stuck sinew]

Fatshaaark
Bring back Sustained Fire executioner stance, and my life is yours!!

[plucky flax]

Based

[stuck sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-anger-rage-temper-tantrum-noo-gif-19623014

[upper sun]

no

[vestal fulcrum]

That will never happen

[upper sun]

stop enjoying things

[vestal fulcrum]

Exe Stance is solid, though - people just don’t exactly like putting effort into making things work

[stuck sinew]

I use it a lot

[radiant frigate]

it is solid but it is worthless for melee

[upper sun]

does it still cancel when you weapon swap?

[stuck sinew]

But I do miss 30 round bolter mags

[plucky flax]

Nein

[vestal fulcrum]

I don’t think it does that anymore

[upper sun]

does the duration still fade when you swap?

if so still worthless

[radiant frigate]

does that mean you can keep the duration going if you kill the targets but with melee

that would be funny

[upper sun]

yes

make melee pause it

NOW

[stuck sinew]

Melee no longer kills it

[vestal fulcrum]

Make melee pause it, stack a duration of over 1 minute throughout the run

Unload

[stuck sinew]

Edging my Bastion 220

[radiant frigate]

[vestal fulcrum]

I remember the days when Lv30 Vet exe upgrades allowed the duration to exceed 5s

[potent echo]

It still can though?

[upper sun]

tbh

either zealot or vet should lose stealth

it doesnt make sense for both classes to have the same ult

[potent echo]

Nah

[upper sun]

yes

[potent echo]

Psyker should gain stealth

[upper sun]

[potent echo]

And ogryn!

[upper sun]

https://tenor.com/view/drax-invisible-invisable-still-infinity-war-gif-13730214

[vestal fulcrum]

No, it’s just a refresh of the duration, not <the duration> stacking with each “refresh”

Unless something has changed and FS unearthed an ancient piece of code that overrides it now, as is often the case from one big patch to another

[radiant frigate]

psyker should gain a stealth field

make team invisible

[upper sun]

so tru so tru

actually

stealth should be built into every ability for every class

[potent echo]

Saltspyre/sienna should have had a stealth power

[vestal fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/aight-imma-head-out-im-out-this-bitch-bye-gif-15194343

I want to be able to do this

[upper sun]

port over sienna kirillian and saltzpyre

[potent echo]

It's called "leave match"

[upper sun]

fuck the dwarf tho no one likes him

port all vt2 player char, enemies and weapons

[quartz barn]

Space bardin pog

[vestal fulcrum]

[potent echo]

Space grail knight

With quests!

[upper sun]

i want to unloat a bolter into a chaos knight(i have 2 hours in vt2 i have never even seen a chaos knight)

[potent echo]

Strength potion birthing 🫃

[stuck sinew]

Just a bottle of his piss

[stuck sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/bardin-slayer-vermintide-gif-24272560

[upper sun]

damn thats crazy im throwing away all your dummies

[potent echo]

In vt2 you can just shoot your team

[upper sun]

not in my theat level

[potent echo]

🍼

[stuck sinew]

SIGMAR BLESS THIS SHOT

[upper sun]

man

shits so hard to see in vt2

idk how yall played it

[potent echo]

Darktide didn't exist yet

[broken carbon]

real

once we get chaos wastes there’s basically no reason to play vt2 lol

[upper sun]

bros be like ah yes this pixle over there is the ratling rat of hooking players i have to turn left or itll teleport behind me

[broken carbon]

well

if we get chaos wastes

[upper sun]

believe

[broken carbon]

i really hope we do

[upper sun]

trust the plan just 2 more weeks

[potent echo]

Fatshark seems to be still doing well-ish

No massive layoffs (yet)

[upper sun]

fellow believers fatshark is coming up with a plan

[upper sun]

I gave them 20 dollars for the crafting update

i did my part

(i got the game on discount)

[stuck sinew]

I got the game in a GPU bundle

[upper sun]

wellllllllll

someone paid them

[potent echo]

AMD?

[upper sun]

get real

[potent echo]

I forgor who sponsored DT

[stuck sinew]

It was a 3070

[upper sun]

if it was amd then fsr would work

[potent echo]

True

They just only added fsr fg

[dull osprey]

Bullshit

[potent echo]

Is fsr still 1.0 lmao my mfao

[dull osprey]

Modded realm and melee is better in vt

And its sword and board fantasy

[stuck sinew]

Melee enemies are better

[upper sun]

modded realm is not gonna happen any time soon

[potent echo]

I hate shields

Never give me a shield

[upper sun]

unironically mods need to die so we can motivate fatshark to fix their game

[broken carbon]

modded realm sure but melee?

[dull osprey]

Yes

[upper sun]

MMT is actively killing most intrest in a better mission selection

[broken carbon]

melee feels so gross in vt2

[stuck sinew]

At least Darktide gave everything a special attack

[potent echo]

Modded realm is cool but I have no friends to play with

[upper sun]

thats fine

[dull osprey]

Skissue

[broken carbon]

vermintide 2 just feels gross to play as a whole

i got my fun out of it

[potent echo]

I remember running a 8 bardin lobby like once

[broken carbon]

but darktide is a much better game as a whole imo

[dull osprey]

Well you are allowed to be wrong

[broken carbon]

i’ve been in this server for longer so i’m right sry

[broken carbon]

objectively correct thanks to seniority

[dull osprey]

Btw the reason dt players find vt bad cuz they dont know how to melee

[dull osprey]

Dt allows for far lax melee gameplay and they get away with it

[upper sun]

someone needs to stop me from going into the forum

[broken carbon]

i know how to melee lol

it just wasn’t very fun

[dull osprey]

No u dont

U think you do but u dont

[broken carbon]

alright bro lmfao

[upper sun]

i think ogryn dodges are bad and they should knock eneimes out of the way
Ogryn is fine, his dodge is already huge, :3333333333333333333

[plucky flax]

It's tru I can't melee.

That's why I psyker.

[stuck sinew]

If Darktide is so great then why doesn't it have Bubblespunk Halesplurge

[dull osprey]

Theres a ton of dt players who play A5 like its nothing then they try VT and they are stuck on legend cuz they cant overpower stuff like they do in melee

Memes aside vt is just a clear step above dt

Spacing and general melee style is way more important

[broken carbon]

think that might be one of the hottest takes in this server actually

[potent echo]

Damn I forgot my pet name for that guy

[dull osprey]

Not really

[stuck sinew]

I'm stuck in legend because I never bought the DLC

[dull osprey]

Guess why all the 5k+ hours modded guys keep playing vt instead of dt

[potent echo]

Something burgertown

[dull osprey]

And its not lack of modded server in dt

[broken carbon]

because some people prefer other games

that’s fine

if you want to dump 5k hours into an older game that’s completely fine

[dull osprey]

There are somr things that dt does better as well but ultimately its a sidegrade

And not a clear update

[broken carbon]

you say this like it’s fact

it’s really not

[dull osprey]

It is

[broken carbon]

in my opinion and many others, darktide is a direct upgrade in almost all ways to vermintide 2

[potent echo]

They did streamline melee combos alot

[broken carbon]

in your opinion, vermintide 2 and darktide are similar

that’s fine

but neither of us are objectively correct

[potent echo]

Darktide movement itself already ended vt2 for me

[wind spruce]

Bro this isn't Reddit

[potent echo]

Sprintless slideless maidenless vt2

[slender coyote]

oh yeah darktide movement is more enjoyable to me

[broken carbon]

movement, more varied core combat, unique weapons (weapon specials)

much more enjoyable to play

and possibility for skill expression feels much higher

[slender coyote]

are you guys seriously arguing about your opinions

[languid dragon]

Did the columnus get renamed aswell?

[slender coyote]

this is subjective not objective

[late sapphire]

eyes

[broken carbon]

i’m just agreeing with @potent echo

[late sapphire]

i disagree a lot

darktide is much easier

[slender coyote]

oh ok

[wind spruce]

Most arguments are about opinions

[broken carbon]

this is true

[late sapphire]

The power scaling in darktide is also way higher

[dull osprey]

There is literally nothing challenging in dt atm

[glossy escarp]

I don't know what you guys are smoking tbh, but I don't care to bicker either

[stuck sinew]

Pros of Vermintide: it has Saltzpyre
Cons of Vermintide: it has the Elf

[dull osprey]

95% of the difficulty are bugs and ur teammates

[late sapphire]

THE ELF IS HORIZONTAL

[broken carbon]

true duo a 3veg without a smite psyker or thunder hammer lol

or dueling sword

[wind spruce]

Post your all greys no talent maelstrom

[late sapphire]

Imagine how difficult a vermintide specials gauntlet would be

[potent echo]

If I die, retUrn Me tO the SoIl

[dull osprey]

Bro im 3k hour vt i know how to melee with shit weapons

[broken carbon]

the only thing much better than DT imo is the dialogue in VT2 tbh

[dull osprey]

I already did maelstroms with grey weapons

[late sapphire]

Now do vermintide maelstrom

[dull osprey]

Ogryn power maul on grey was rad

[late sapphire]

That shit SUCKS

[glossy escarp]

Pros of darktide: ogryn
Cons of darktide: that FUCKING cadia vet who NEVER shuts up

[potent echo]

Idk how much of it is waitaminutetwonulnregimentsvanishedwithoutatraceatpoggersbridge

[dull osprey]

Thats called first level of chaos waste

[glossy escarp]

^^

[late sapphire]

Chaos Wastes was fun man i wish we get it in dt

[dull osprey]

Like dt players cant comprehend how different is

[broken carbon]

elf? elf!!!

[dull osprey]

When you clear a horde woth crowbill

Which literally has no cleave

[glossy escarp]

Oh yeah lmao

[dull osprey]

Like u legit spend 3 minutes every mobpack

[late sapphire]

Don't buy random weapons

[dull osprey]

Pushing and spacing

[late sapphire]

Simple as

[glossy escarp]

Works on Necro but it's painful otherwise

[dull osprey]

Hell no they are cheaper and more fun XD

[plucky flax]

I had 1.4k hours in vt2.

When dt came out I stopped completely.

[broken carbon]

real

[glossy escarp]

Something something play the game with 9 broken fingers and no eyes

[plucky flax]

1.4k hours when sister of thorns came out. I stopped soon after that. Never played the priest update.

[late sapphire]

I was always too bad to use random weapons

[stuck sinew]

I think I've about tripled my Vermintide playtime in Darktide

[plucky flax]

I member when moonbow was OP

[glossy escarp]

Priest rocks, highly recommend it

[plucky flax]

Unlimited horde clear weapon.

[potent echo]

I played a little bit of warrior priest but not the emosienna

[broken carbon]

same with a friend of mine, he has at least 1k+ in vt2 and he just stopped almost entirely when dt came out

[late sapphire]

I think it's insane that there are people who can play cata 3 deathwish onslaught

[potent echo]

Sienna flamesword BW brainrot build

[late sapphire]

genuinely inhuman

[plucky flax]

I had many solo clutches in cata just like I have now in auric mael.

Game is just as easy.

[late sapphire]

I think cata is a bit harder than auric mael

[potent echo]

You cant outrun stuff like on dt

[late sapphire]

Then again i had half the playtime in vt than i do in darktide now

[potent echo]

Well technically you can but you need the power of ledges

[late sapphire]

Ledges my beloved

My heart breaks every time i see a level 1k+ player who can't use terrain to his advantage

[glossy escarp]

Good luck outrunning iceskate walkers with the 2 seconds of sprint you get lmao

[potent echo]

They weren't vt2 pilled

[glossy escarp]

Why not just shoot them in the head?

[potent echo]

Spoken like a true W presser

[glossy escarp]

"best CC is killing the enemy" or so I hear

[broken carbon]

however consider, it’s fun to jump into 200 enemies

[broken carbon]

no need to crowd control if there is no crowd

[glossy escarp]

Ok then you do it

I'll crack open a beer and watch

[broken carbon]

huh

[hasty breach]

does Damage still give no real benefit to the Inferno / purgatus? i notice Damage now governs Burning Intensity in inspection?

[broken carbon]

it does not, no

as far as i know, nothings changed regarding that

[late sapphire]

Damage is a bit more impactful now that it's also buffed by blaze away

[hasty breach]

yea all these cool new blessings

[broken carbon]

n most builds you should be dumping warp resist anyway

[late sapphire]

Lower than 60 if possible yeah

[dull osprey]

0 warp to offset the new talents

[broken carbon]

true god roll is 1 warp resist

[stuck sinew]

Not 0?

[dull osprey]

Too many man of culture

[stuck sinew]

You can roll zeroes

[broken carbon]

oh that’s true

i forgor

[hasty breach]

so hard to obtain the Arcane Knowledge for this game sometimes

[glossy escarp]

Would be helpful if the stuff said in-game could actually be trusted, as a start

[broken carbon]

i’ve started screenshotting advice and saving it for when people ask questions

[glossy escarp]

Not to mention the wonky interactions between stuff

[broken carbon]

a zealot chat regular has a bunch of screenshots of things I and a few others have said too

cracking open the tome to try to remember what the hell rending is

[upper sun]

make a macro

[broken carbon]

wuh

[upper sun]

thammer dumpstat should be cntrl 1 unironically

[broken carbon]

[upper sun]

DEFENCE IS THE DUMP STAT

[dull osprey]

D-what?

[broken carbon]

i thought for the longest time that increasing cleave increased cleave damage

it does not

[dull osprey]

Ye its 101% fatshark fault

[broken carbon]

despite cleave target stat

[dull osprey]

They hide info like ity their life crusade

[broken carbon]

saying

“cleave damage distribution”

and having some arbitrary number

[dull osprey]

On top of that they are incosistent and has a lot of exceptions which makes no sense

[broken carbon]

turns out, that number is actually the fucking hitmass it can cleave im pretty sure

and then cleave damage is an entirely different stat

eugh

i spent like 45 minutes trying to figure out how cleave targets affected evis

and the damage distribution

[plucky flax]

This is based.
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1g0gcpr/me_like_new_grenade_gauntlet_sah/

[broken carbon]

i even had higui try to help me

a zealot chatter went into the fucking code

and got so lost he gave up

this game is a work of a mad man

[glossy escarp]

Yeah, cleave is weird

[broken carbon]

then i realized i was an idiot

[glossy escarp]

Stagger cleave and damage cleave are entirely different sides of the ocean too, which doesn't help

[broken carbon]

and that cleave targets has no effect

on cleave damage

[hasty breach]

does warp siphon still not reduce the scrier's gaze CD?

[broken carbon]

i still don’t know if power increases cleave damage distribution or not

actually ik how i could test it

[glossy escarp]

If it's anything like V2, higher power gives more cleave but the damage cleave is capped at a certain amount

And what increases is stagger cleave

[broken carbon]

ik the multipliers for the mk3 evis

and ik rampage is power

so i can just do that later

[glossy escarp]

I'm sure you remember the old Thammer that couldn't kill trash to save its life

[broken carbon]

also do ADMs change with cleave

because

i’ve seen a dclaw spark blue on carapace after cleaving

on a heavy

heavies which don’t usually spark blue

unless the blue spark/hit marker is based solely off the damage you’re dealing?

[broken carbon]

yeah

it made me very sad

[glossy escarp]

Isn't the blue spark just "you hit carapace dumdum"?

[upper sun]

doesnt blue mean zero damage?

[frozen loom]

... gonna try using DS mkII, not sure if it's just me or if the light combos faster since the H1 is exactly the same

[broken carbon]

for ranged yes

[broken carbon]

no, if you heavy into carapace it won’t spark blue

and it’ll deal some damage

like 300 on a dclaw

[glossy escarp]

Yeah, but if you're already cleaving other targets beforehand it might not have enough damage left over?

That's my theory so far at least

[broken carbon]

yah it depends if the spark is dependent on ADM or damage dealt

[sterile vale]

Isn't the blue spark just if you deal less than 1% of your damage or something