psyker-class

[waxen jackal]

I love the eviscerator

[nocturne dust]

no, mk15 peak

[restive slate]

Literally shaking right now

[sturdy tendon]

I tried using MK3 until I could switch it to MK15

But I couldn't make sense of the move set

[broken carbon]

mk15 is just

the most boring thing ever

[sturdy tendon]

Mk15 is boring and extremely effective

[nocturne dust]

Well sure, maybe if you know your combos and actually are good at the game

smh my head

[broken carbon]

horde clear is push attack, light, repeat,

rev h1 for sniping an elite out of a horde/single target

that’s kind of all u have to know

oh also h1 sucks for cleave damage

so don’t use it in hordes

except for revved for cleaving to a rager

[sturdy tendon]

That's so very weird since H1 is horizontal

[restive slate]

Meow is like Tzeentch right now hahaha

[broken carbon]

huh

[broken carbon]

yeah

i’m currently advocating (and failing) for a bunch of changes to the mk3 evis

[sturdy tendon]

Still need to work on my eviserector

[restive slate]

You prefer the complex methods overall

Not questioning it of course

[broken carbon]

mk3 is very fun but it’s also very weird

[nocturne dust]

mk15 should do damage to more than 4 guys

[broken carbon]

it’s got an entirely unique property to it, where h1 will not latch onto a staggered enemy, except carapace

[sturdy tendon]

It does if you run crit Zealot

[broken carbon]

6 on revs, but i agree, damage caps are stupid

[broken carbon]

also l2 and l3, horizontal horde clear lights, deal more carapace damage than l1 and l4, the overhead lights

along with terrible cleave damage on h1, damage caps, the best horde clear being PA-L repeat

it’s a very strange weapon

but it’s also one of the most fun imo

desperation is perfect for it

[nocturne dust]

This looks very heretical

[broken carbon]

i wish i could get into the playtesting

just so i could get the mk3 changed

that’s it

[sturdy tendon]

PA for horde clear always feel so iffy due to consuming stamina

[nocturne dust]

I don't like having a useful push attack

[broken carbon]

stamina is useless imo

unless you use dclaw

other than dclaw, you should not be blocking

plus 20% more damage with desperation is very nice

[nocturne dust]

This is just zealot advice, right?

[broken carbon]

not really tbh, unless you have kinetic deflection. Blocking is entirely inferior to dodging in all situations

other than like

backstabs

[nocturne dust]

You run out of dodges and you can't dodge a thousand strikes

[rancid geyser]

.>

[sturdy tendon]

Sometimes you need like 2 seconds to get your dodges back

[broken carbon]

some people (dorn) say that sprinting down to 0% stamina is a terrible idea due to bursters n such, but i’ve never really had that problem due to how fast zealot and psyker’s stam regen is, on vet i could agree though

[sturdy tendon]

They are not infinite

[nocturne dust]

Pushing can open you up to being stabbed, so blocking good

[broken carbon]

push, don’t block

[broken carbon]

pushing is 360

[nocturne dust]

#psyker-class message

https://tenor.com/view/ahead-of-you-gif-18442352

[broken carbon]

pushing is 360 degrees

[nocturne dust]

Nothing has changed

[rancid geyser]

i think ppl forget that shoving is something you can do while sliding

[waxen jackal]

Gonna try out meows build now. Will report back

[rancid geyser]

and probably should be done while sliding

[waxen jackal]

Lol

[rancid geyser]

lmao

[broken carbon]

now your block has been broken and you’re even more dead than you were before

that’s the issue with blocking

[rancid geyser]

but then stating push dont block and also saying stamina isnt worth is weird

[nocturne dust]

not if you have stamina

[broken carbon]

this isn’t applicable to ogryn and vet

[waxen jackal]

Quick question tho, backstab is exactly what it sounds like right? You dash behind with fury of the faithful and hit them in the back?

[round charm]

warp flurry, or surge for voidstrike? i dont know the math on which gives more damage overall

[rancid geyser]

vet uses PSword

blocking is acceptable

[broken carbon]

but zealot and psyker both regen stam fast enough that it’s not really an issue

[rancid geyser]

bugging tf with the comment

[broken carbon]

no, what i’m saying isn’t

[rancid geyser]

its all characters tho

[broken carbon]

i don’t really play vet or ogryn

[rancid geyser]

i feel like if someone reads this and takes it to heart especially learning psyker it would be detrimental

you shouldnt ignore free tools

[restive cave]

Soulblaze can't proc, right?

[nocturne dust]

Blocking is incredibly useful and pushes are liabilities at the wrong time/against the wrong enemy

[broken carbon]

if you mean like kinetic flayer, then no

it cannot

[rancid geyser]

^

[restive cave]

er, can't proc crits*

[rancid geyser]

blocks are safer than shoves

[broken carbon]

no

[restive cave]

I'm thinking of switching out mettle/perfect timing for perilous assault/empyric shock for purgation staff/bb battery build

[broken carbon]

but also inferior, blocking in a situation against ragers or maulers or crushers (not even overheads) will instantly drain your stamina, and when your block is broken, you will tank some hits

even in horde situations

kinetic deflection avoids this

[buoyant maple]

Blocking just is not good in this game

[nocturne dust]

We have very different definitions of 'instant'

and also this is why block efficiency/stamina curios exist

[buoyant maple]

They have to tweak the guard broken status for block to be useful

[broken carbon]

this is true

[buoyant maple]

I would actually rather eat a melee hit than to have my guard broken

[rancid geyser]

block is useful it seem to me yall kinda suck with them ngl

[broken carbon]

having your block broken should not stagger you

[rancid geyser]

that rager comment go wild

[nocturne dust]

I mean, I agree but blocking isn't useless because of that

[rancid geyser]

ragers do not instantly break your guard

[broken carbon]

yes, but 3 of them will

[buoyant maple]

It’s not useless, it’s just way worse than where it should be

[broken carbon]

and a majority of the time you’re fighting a rager, there’s a pack of them

[nocturne dust]

if you take literally nothing to improve your block, sure

[buoyant maple]

Compared to dodges anyway

[rancid geyser]

and even if inferior to shoves -- which i dont agree with, blocks can guarentee no damage or chip, a shove can be a gamble

blocking is in a good spot idk, any buffs would be unneccessary

[broken carbon]

none of us r gonna change each others minds on this tbh

we can simply agree to disagree

[rancid geyser]

sure but the disagreement is needed

[broken carbon]

not really, you think you’re right, i think i’m right

[rancid geyser]

because just acquiescing in chat opens up pathways for bad game habits for ppl learning or considering

[broken carbon]

neither of us will change that opinion

[nocturne dust]

I agree dodges are more valuable but you run out of dodges.

[broken carbon]

but we’ve already had the discussion, both presented why, anyone who reads that will see both the pros and cons of blocking vs dodging/pushing

[buoyant maple]

Dodge & push are just generally better than block

[rancid geyser]

and this is why the disagreement is neccessary

lmao

[buoyant maple]

The block stamina cost in this game overall is really high

[potent echo]

Although, more people should block ragers (while dodging)

[broken carbon]

the debate has run its course, i was simply saying that it has, and that there isn’t much reason to continue the argument

[buoyant maple]

And guard break is a horrible mechanic

[rancid geyser]

if you just said blocking bad and we all said yeah -- that would be bad

[potent echo]

Many people just try to dodge and get shat on by 3 ragers

[buoyant maple]

With that said, block is not useless

[nocturne dust]

I agree with that. You're a little too reliant on curios/perks to make it work.

[buoyant maple]

It’s just not good enough

[broken carbon]

yah this is true

[runic kiln]

hello fellow brainwitches/wizards. Whats the specifics on the new Smite Melee talent? Damage of x-y? 100% stun when its in effect? i know nothing pls help

[broken carbon]

block, dodge backwards, gun

[broken carbon]

it’s very little damage

[potent echo]

No stun

[rancid geyser]

exactly, but if you say blocking is not worth that sets a bad image for ppl reading

its useful

[potent echo]

Just extra 60-80 damage per target over 2 seconds

[rancid geyser]

especially in the case of avoiding ragers

[potent echo]

The over 2seconds part is the worst lol

[runic kiln]

yeah yikes

[broken carbon]

i don’t know the exact number but it’s not very useful, it has a niche interactionwith shock maul’s high voltage blessing, but that’s it

[nocturne dust]

nah, the damage is the worst part

Imagine if it killed crushers in 2 seconds

[buoyant maple]

Well
Taking a hit is better than getting guard broken
It just depends on whether you have enough stamina to block or not

[runic kiln]

gross as.

is it random chance to proc? seems to not rely on anything

[potent echo]

You think maybe it will kill some extra things in the horde but your next swing is gonna hit the same target and kill it anyway sooooo was the dot even useful

[broken carbon]

it’s on all heavies

[rancid geyser]

guard break is more of a stamina management problem than with guarding itself tho

.>

positioning as well

using a mechanic poorly does not make the mechanic bad

[nocturne dust]

Remove stamina when 👀

[round charm]

thoughts? assail heavy build with voidstrike and mk4 ds

[potent echo]

We sekiro now

[buoyant maple]

Nah, guard break is completely horrible

[broken carbon]

that’s just kinetic deflection

[buoyant maple]

Because this game has another mechanic

[rancid geyser]

git gud

hehehe

[buoyant maple]

If you have <50% stamina and take damage

For every damage instance you regain 1 stamina

[nocturne dust]

which is why it's on all my psyker builds

[broken carbon]

same

[buoyant maple]

So when you fight ragers you run into this funny situation where

[broken carbon]

KD is so stupid n i love it

[buoyant maple]

You get guard broken

[rancid geyser]

psyker chat is the last place where ppl should even debating if we should block tho

[restive cave]

I'm not a fan of pure assail builds tbh

[nocturne dust]

combining it with devil's claw makes it worse

[rancid geyser]

on G

[buoyant maple]

You get hit which regains stamina

[nocturne dust]

especially with the parry buff

[buoyant maple]

Which sends u back into block

And u get guard broken again

Infinite guard broken stagger loop

[broken carbon]

that one pygex clip of KD dclaw with SG against a bunch of ragers makes me tempted to play psyker again

[buoyant maple]

It’s really funny how this is a thing in this game

[nocturne dust]

You don't even need SG

[round charm]

its not pure, i just made a heavier lean into it. otherwise its mostly crit stuff and as many toughness dr nodes i could fit

[broken carbon]

yah but SG means more damage

so

[nocturne dust]

https://youtu.be/0jd_cVHxR3E

Literally one button

[broken carbon]

take the right side of empowered psionics, not left.

Guaranteed charge on elite kill is much better than an extra 4% chance

[round charm]

that's wild

[round charm]

ok

[broken carbon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1292308167555944542/caption_1.gif

[nocturne dust]

It's not even melee psyker or anything, I just plopped Devil's Claw on a random build

[neon cobalt]

HAHAHAHAA oh shiiiiitttt

[round charm]

that just makes it wilder

[buoyant maple]

I wish

[potent echo]

I don't get Dclaw when heavysword exists

Unless you are in love with parties and parries hsword just does it better

[round charm]

based on that alone, id saw dclaw wins on defensive values

[broken carbon]

LMFAOOOO

[split lance]

I’m going to throw an adult tantrum as it won’t load which msg ur replying too

[plucky flax]

Pick guaranteed ep stacks on elites for sure.

And pick combustion.

[spice veldt]

it's PEAK

[nocturne dust]

Well, you see, one of them is cool and lets you literally uno-reverse crusher overheads, while the other is hsword

[broken carbon]

parry is very very fun

and i like one shotting crushers with it

[split lance]

Is it the elevator one ?

[broken carbon]

yeah

[potent echo]

Needs more oompf and the dark souls sound effect

[split lance]

Ty

[round charm]

what point would I remove for that?

[split lance]

I was ready to fight my cat

[rancid geyser]

this might have been deserved

[broken carbon]

i wish that parrying an overhead would do a thrust instead of a slash, wouldn’t even have to be different stat wise, it’d just look cool

[split lance]

Never said it wasn’t

[broken carbon]

you didn’t even hit anything with ur surge staff lmfao

[split lance]

If only ya coulda heard vc

[split lance]

Shhhhhh

[plucky flax]

25 points tree.

The rest is your choice.

[nocturne dust]

KD

KD

take KD

do it

[sturdy tendon]

Can't leave home without my KD

[broken carbon]

kinetic deflection, true aim, empathetic evasion

oh

wait

nvm

thought u were the other guy asking for advice

[plucky flax]

Yeah I am new pls help.

[nocturne dust]

I'm crazy, I prefer anticipation over the crit evasion on most builds

[broken carbon]

shut up noob

go play on sedition

[plucky flax]

I did.

[rancid geyser]

i take it sometimes but never block on psyker

[plucky flax]

Played the melee maelstrom then got bored. My fault for bringing blaze trauma.

[broken carbon]

scoreboard rn

[rancid geyser]

so many 0 block games on 100 damage

[plucky flax]

It was 1.1mil.

[rancid geyser]

could be 0 damage if i just tried

[round charm]

awesome, thanks

[nocturne dust]

I went to sedition once recently and got matched with a bunch of high levels who played well enough that I assume they were also there to look at the newbies

[rancid geyser]

bullies

[broken carbon]

health is a resource best spent yeouch

[plucky flax]

Tbh I'd go for this. So 28 points. Tru aim is good on both void and assail.

So you really want it.

[clear heath]

take these

[rancid geyser]

saw some lvl 30s on heresy bullying a lvl 21 earlier talking shit about how they were playing

[nocturne dust]

Correct, but only if it is heretic health being spent.

[rancid geyser]

we so toxic

[nocturne dust]

[rancid geyser]

when you take damage you realize you arent actually nice at the game -- me I'm bad

[nocturne dust]

The lower difficulties are surprisingly toxic.

[rancid geyser]

very fucking toxic

[broken carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/this-fucking-sucks-crying-girl-tears-of-joy-clapping-danny-devito-gif-12766761978490409957

[rancid geyser]

i went to play zealot again after almost a year, i got shat on for not using certain blessings and perks alone

on thammer

[round charm]

alright, ill give it a shot. thanks again

[rancid geyser]

WHICH I HAVE NEVER USED

[sturdy tendon]

Probably wanted to finish the Melk no deaths weekly

[plucky flax]

Trust me I am top 1% sedition player.

[rancid geyser]

having ppl waiting for a rescus and still taking shit on VC is a weird experience

[potent echo]

Crucis is my new fav

[nocturne dust]

Funny, I see a guy in maelstrom running green weapons and below lvl 30 and nobody says a word

[plucky flax]

You'll do well just remember to spam assail a lot especially since you play EP.

[potent echo]

Ironhelm go home

[rancid geyser]

hate that door sections require all players if you dont rescue you cant move forward

[round charm]

i usually chuck it into hordes. is there a better/more optimal use for it?

[nocturne dust]

Nobody left behind

[rancid geyser]

its random toxic players

[plucky flax]

No just spam it. Literally free damage.

And horde clear.

Infinite blitz go brrrrr.

[buoyant maple]

Which map is that

[clear heath]

this is why barrels are useful

[potent echo]

Any airlock in most maps

[round charm]

will do. hopefully the voidstrike crits do some extra work in hallways for me

[clear heath]

if they fly off the map, you don't have to wait for them

[buoyant maple]

I mean, if u let them bleed out u can still progress

[runic kiln]

what does crit chance do for inferno staff again?

[plucky flax]

[rancid geyser]

but thats just me being toxic for no reason

lmao

[round charm]

I was thinking crit chance for voidtrike, but idk whats the best option for the other. are there breakpoints for one shotting i need to worry about?

[sturdy tendon]

2 soul blaze stacks

Per crit instead of 1

[restive slate]

Smooth brain appreciates this

[buoyant maple]

If they’re too hard to res I just give up and wait for them to die

[rancid geyser]

sometimes i do it

[restive slate]

Is it worth?

[sturdy tendon]

Yes

[restive slate]

Nice

[rancid geyser]

then you here the sound of someone turning on their mic -- and you just KNOW shit's about to get bad

[potent echo]

Sometimes a bomber throws fire into the airlock

[sturdy tendon]

There's virtually no reason not to want high crit on Purgatus

[split lance]

CLEAVE

[potent echo]

Excise vault run ender

The exit elevator

[restive slate]

With the mic in the back of their oesophagus

[rancid geyser]

ON GAWD

[potent echo]

Some players play around too much then die to special spawns lol

[sturdy tendon]

A Russian with open mic

Saying incomprehensible things

[buoyant maple]

If I hear people having bad mic at the start of a mission I will take my time to personally go into social and mute them in vc

[rancid geyser]

i opperate my menus too slow for that shit

im talking about the ppl that dont say shit all game tho

until they get mad

[buoyant maple]

They can be mad and spectate how to actually play the game

[rancid geyser]

at me -- when there are the one that went down

[clear heath]

it's pretty rare for me to hear someone use their mic in game
but i hate it every time

[rancid geyser]

''oh this kid is shit'' while I'm over here trying my damnedest to not fuck up lmao

[sturdy tendon]

Usually it's some Russian with that plays pretty well and only communicates what's necessary for me

[rancid geyser]

on that note i fell in love with the Thammer tho

[karmic finch]

It's handy to say shit like "crushers behind" etc

[buoyant maple]

If u swap ur weapons while sliding and progressing through the map you’ll look like a better player than u actually are

[sturdy tendon]

But I haven't heard VC in awhile now post update

[buoyant maple]

Works most of the time if u got teammates spectating

[sturdy tendon]

Feels like I am not running into them anymore now that the player base is higher

[nocturne dust]

more of the playerbase indeed is high

[sturdy tendon]

Tbh getting used to weapon swapping is pretty important skill to develop

[rancid geyser]

wait till you see the Xbox Icons

it gets real

[sturdy tendon]

Until you run something like the flamer

[rancid geyser]

almost certain all the toxic vc i have heard was from Xbox, but that might just be me hating

[sturdy tendon]

Then it's just melee 70% of the game with the occasional spurt on a horde

[nocturne dust]

This is why I love flame staff

[waxen jackal]

I was saying the same thing earlier. It's actually weird how little I hear mics

[nocturne dust]

spurt everything

[sturdy tendon]

Wish the flamer had the draw time of the Inferno staff

Feels like it takes ages before I can spurt all over a horde

[rancid geyser]

wish the flamer never had the bracing animation

[restive cave]

@runic kiln the 2 stacks on crit is important because of how soulblaze damage scales, btw

[nocturne dust]

it does, you just have to use a throwing knife

[restive cave]

If you test in psykhanium you'll see the stacks build then BAM suddenly the thing just dies

[rancid geyser]

wait really? I used throwing knives prolifically and never knew this

just gotta toss 1?

[sturdy tendon]

Yeah I need to start using the knives

[nocturne dust]

yes it animation cancels

[buoyant maple]

Toss 1 while drawing Boltgun/flamer and you’ll have it ready faster

[sturdy tendon]

Especially with a flamer since AOE is taken care of

And I lack sniping

[rancid geyser]

good to know but im sitting on thammer bolt pistol for a while now i think

just feels too good

[plucky flax]

How bad does psyker get with 200+ ping? I'll find out.

[nocturne dust]

Uh

I mean I can't play psyker the moment lag starts making things funky

which is fairly often

[sturdy tendon]

Playing Surge with lags is so bad

The noise

That fucking noise

[tiny tartan]

Any tips/build paths to use while leveling?

I'm wet tissue paper that hits like wet tissue paper

[primal aurora]

I have such mixed feelings about Bolt pistol. On one hand revolver is so much better as anti-specialist weapon, dealing with snipers, netters and such in quick and reliable fashion. On other hand Bolt pistol is just so Warhammer.

[languid dragon]

What is with people having a hissy and leaving the second someone gets downed

[nocturne dust]

you will always be wet tissue as psyker, but you must learn to hit like exterminatus

and dodge

[tiny tartan]

Any noteable perks/weapons/etc to use while leveling?

Sorry if I don't reply right away, currently in game

[compact cargo]

I'd probably go for trauma staff while leveling

[nocturne dust]

I mean, not really. You can use just what you get in game.

[compact cargo]

But that's just personal preference

[nocturne dust]

Breakpoints tend to be all off anyway

Like, if I had a choice I'd grab a staff, probably electro, and duelling sword 4

[sturdy tendon]

Get Assail and just dominate until a crusher shows up

[nocturne dust]

but kinda a waste to grab those without the proper perks backing them up, especially the staff

[paper ember]

6 crushers pack

[nocturne dust]

Actually you know what

Use assail

[sturdy tendon]

I don't think 6 crushers pack can spawn until heresy

[nocturne dust]

That's my levelling recommendation: assail the blitz

[primal aurora]

Smite (blitz) seems to be universally useful, since it is crowd control, so you can use it on higher lvl missions if you dare to go there underleveled. Assail probably would be pretty strong at early levels.
As for weapons, electro-staff is one of easiest to use, though be careful, as it doesn't deal with hordes too well.
Not sure when you unlock Illisi mark of Force sword, but I find it the most useful and fun weapon for Psyker.

[paper ember]

I was just trolling

[tiny tartan]

I just found out about assail so I've been runnin it

[nocturne dust]

The issue with electro is it really wants its breakpoints

[tiny tartan]

Is it worth taking the "regenerate toughness on doing X" perks?

Or should I just maximize dmg?

[runic kiln]

cheers, making some soul blaze/headpop build so was checking how the purgatus went with it all

[nocturne dust]

yes, except the 2.5% on peril

[sturdy tendon]

Get perilious combustion

[paper ember]

Assails is very good to snipe or clean hordes or a line of gunners if you know how to redirect it

[wind spruce]

Most builds should take quietude, mettle and soulstealer. Almost no builds should take warp expenditure.

[nocturne dust]

Psyker's best defensive trait is toughness regen through talents (and kinetic deflection but that's way down the tree)

[sturdy tendon]

Like Kinetic Deflection

It's something that every build has to have

For me at least

[quartz barn]

Not mandatory, but good if you block a lot

Or get revives i guess

[tiny tartan]

What uhhh, red should I use?

I heard bubble is pretty good

[sturdy tendon]

It's very handy when you got a horde on your ass and need to get shriek off

[sturdy tendon]

Shriek is the easiest to use and a pretty good crutch while learning peril management

[tiny tartan]

Ahh alright, I'll probably get bubble once I hit 30 and become confident in the class

[quartz barn]

Tbf all but scriers can be seen as a crutch lmao

[wind spruce]

Killing enemies is a crutch

[tiny tartan]

When I hit lvl 30 I really want to make a build revolving around Inferno/Soulfire and all of that shit

[tiny tartan]

Trauma staff?

[primal plume]

First time I did this much

[sturdy tendon]

Voidblast

[tiny tartan]

I thought there's only voidstrike, voidblast, inferno, a-

Ah

[sturdy tendon]

We're still traumatized from the name change

[unreal wasp]

Using Trauma Staff (Voidblast) right now just for the mastery skin. It's not bad but it's definitely not my Surge Staff.

Literally going to get the mastery skin for Voidblast and immediately just put it on my Surge

[sturdy tendon]

But yeah, people should stop recommending weapons with their old names

[sturdy tendon]

Last patch Obese Dolphin changed the names of a lot of weapons

[unreal wasp]

The annoying thing about some of the names is that they're even longer than the old names

Who wants to type out "Electrokinetic" instead of "Surge", damn you Fatshark

[sturdy tendon]

Like recon 6d is now XII

Voidblast and Voidstrike are too similar names for comfort

Probably why people refuse to use the new name

[nocturne dust]

Mandatory because I say so

[nocturne dust]

Shriek is a devastating horde clearer

creeping flames go bbbbrrrrrr

[unreal wasp]

People who use Shriek only to stop themself from exploding instead of getting big DoT damage off cooldown

[round charm]

of course I know him, he's me

[clear heath]

incredible

[unreal wasp]

I had Smite equipped and wasn't even using it for the funny heavy damage

Now I'm using Brain Rupture and barely using it except for bosses just for Kinetic Flayer

[fluid lynx]

same, im no brain lmb gang lately lol

[nocturne dust]

pull the DH first and then leave

[sturdy tendon]

Tbh I don't like playing with smykers that only smite

At least if it's not EP smite

[nocturne dust]

I mean only smiting is a bit much, yeah

[unreal wasp]

Staff-Empowered Smite is best smite

[sturdy tendon]

EP smite actually kills stuff instead of waiting for others to kill for them

[clear heath]

it feels kinda cheesy to just have everything stunned all the time too

i only smite like 3 times per game

[unreal wasp]

Scuse me, Staff-bound Smite*

[fluid lynx]

EP smite and that new -40% peril

[nocturne dust]

Then use smite for charged strike. No stun.

[echo root]

I never remember which one is which

[compact cargo]

Kin, is the exploding build still viable?

[sturdy tendon]

Strike is the cannon

[runic kiln]

I like smite as a safety net for when i want to babysit people. usually use it when im aiming for melee penance or smth, just bust smite out to save teammates then back to bidness as usual

[sturdy tendon]

Blast is the floor AOE

[nocturne dust]

never was

[echo root]

Yeah that makes sense, but blast both names could describe both of the weapons

[compact cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/darthvader-nooooo-funny-starwars-no-gif-4920019

[sturdy tendon]

Yeah, why I still refer to Voidblast as Trauma

[plucky flax]

How long was game?

[nocturne dust]

strike is the most strikey of the staves, blast is the most blasty of the staves

[fluid lynx]

this is the way to be.

[compact cargo]

Ball staff should be the official name

[quartz barn]

Ballin'

[plucky flax]

Trauma my beloved.

[nocturne dust]

orb

[primal plume]

idk

[plucky flax]

It inflicts trauma upon myself for playing it.

[compact cargo]

Ball staff
Floor staff
Flashbang staff
Palpatine staff

[echo root]

I personally dislike the voidstaves, they feel worse than purgatus/elektro

[quartz barn]

How is inferno flashbang?

[echo root]

It makes it hard for teammates to see shit

[compact cargo]

On high settings with reflective surfaces it blinds your team in corridors

[sturdy tendon]

It blinds the absolute shit of everyone that is remotely in the direction of the flames

[quartz barn]

Cant relate because every time i get a purg teammate they're shit

[plucky flax]

Your scoreboard doesn't show? Press f2 for scoreboard history.

[sturdy tendon]

At least you know that aside from some specialists everything in that direction is deleted

[compact cargo]

Think I love trauma, Palpatine and double barrel

Wizard with a gun

[primal plume]

Not my screenshot technically

i dont have the mod

[nocturne dust]

ball, circle, line, cone

[sturdy tendon]

How long is left for the Moebian 21st event?

[wind spruce]

2 hours

[nocturne dust]

Get worse graphics

[sturdy tendon]

Nice, finally no more Moebian hordes

[fluid lynx]

1500k damage is a ton. i usually do auric damnations and i average 4-500, 6-700 on a real good meat grinder. whats your whole build/ how did you do so much damage, sibling? cause damn!

[sturdy tendon]

They were fun to deal with initially, but I grew tired of them

[wind spruce]

I just made that up

[primal plume]

Voidstrike. The secret is having 2 teammates be dead weight

[nocturne dust]

I would assume by having a bad team that extended the match

[sturdy tendon]

[plucky flax]

If you can do 1mil damage in around 30 mins that's really good dps rate.

At least for me.

[desert yoke]

What sorta subclass would you like to see from psyker if they added another skill tree branch?

[plucky flax]

But when the game drags to 40+ mins yeah it becomes bonker.

[sturdy tendon]

I want to have Kine Blades

[nocturne dust]

I want a true melee psyker

[sturdy tendon]

But I guess Assail sort of does the same thing

[desert yoke]

It’s kinda cool becaise psykers can do basically anything

[compact cargo]

Can we tank?

[desert yoke]

I’d like some sorta ‘just melt them by looking at them’ ability but it’d probably be a bit to similar to fire

[sturdy tendon]

I guess it'll be similar to how Surge and Smite relate to each other

[desert yoke]

Personal bubble shield psyker

[nocturne dust]

somehow making enemies turn on each other would also be cool but I doubt ever a thing in a tide game

[compact cargo]

Forgor bubble existed

[sturdy tendon]

Kineblades should be able to penetrate carapace

[compact cargo]

I want my team to suffer range/no toughness regen so they focus them so I rarely pack it

[nocturne dust]

Kinetic Deflection says yes

[desert yoke]

Yeah but one for just yourself would be cool to make a tanky psyker

You’d still be squishy, but just behind your shield

[nocturne dust]

Kinetic Deflection

[compact cargo]

I'm surprised we don't have any biomancer traits

[sturdy tendon]

Oh right biomancy

[compact cargo]

It's like the only psyker ability we don't have access to

[sturdy tendon]

Biomancy is the most viable option to implement

I don't see how we can do telepathy though

[desert yoke]

What would biomancy do?

[fluid lynx]

divination

[desert yoke]

You find out if you’re gonna win

[unreal wasp]

I mean, in certain aspects we have Biomancy

[sturdy tendon]

Melee damage, poison and a lot of survivability

[nocturne dust]

"I've made a terrible mistake"

[desert yoke]

When your divination psyker leaves 5 seconds into the round

[unreal wasp]

Bio-lightning, Smite, Enfeeble, Warp Speed, etc

[nocturne dust]

Biomancy tree gives you the ability to know you shouldn't have picked biomancy

[fluid lynx]

vet kinda has a divination skill

[desert yoke]

Do they?

[nocturne dust]

executioner's stance highlights targets

[desert yoke]

I imagine it as just locking in and picking out your best targets

[fluid lynx]

im a slow typer lol

[unreal wasp]

If it didn't show them through walls I'd also agree that it's only that

[nocturne dust]

I mean, yeah, not really divination

[desert yoke]

Ik it works through walls but that’s kinda just a mechanics quirk

[sturdy tendon]

He is just using auspex

[nocturne dust]

I guess one could argue Disrupt Destiny is divination. Kinda in the name.

[sturdy tendon]

Perfectly fine lore wise

[desert yoke]

Ogryn: why think of future? Can barely think of present

[sturdy tendon]

Tbh I want a tech adept class

[nocturne dust]

same

[unreal wasp]

Feel like for the most part, the big thing we don't have in terms of "biomancy" is healing.
And unless it was something like Warrior Priest's healing in Vermintide, we don't need straight healing.

[fluid lynx]

pyromancy skills like from rogue trader would be cool

[unreal wasp]

[desert yoke]

VARLETS

[fluid lynx]

turn crushers into bombs

[sturdy tendon]

Ah yes setting yourself on fire and running around like a Maniac

How fun

[fluid lynx]

that too. i think we are on to something here

[desert yoke]

You burst into flames instead of your brain exploding

[unreal wasp]

Borderlands 2 Krieg

[sturdy tendon]

Pyromancer blade dancer executioner is hilariously broken

[fluid lynx]

that skill where your party doesnt take as much fire damage would be nice

[sturdy tendon]

I always like when Hadron calls me a good varlet

[desert yoke]

When I think I’m gonna crush some puny heretics and the scrawny wizard sets my soul on fire

[nocturne dust]

we have toughness healing via bubble

[unreal wasp]

Toughness "healing" is fine

Vet and Zealot also have that, that's akin to Kruber's shout giving temp HP in Vermintide

[nocturne dust]

I mean, healing actual health in anyway would be very hard to balance

[unreal wasp]

The only ability that can straight HEAL you in Vermintide is Warrior Priest's iirc, and you have to take damage to get back more health

[late sapphire]

grail knight kruber regen

[nocturne dust]

Elf girl regen

[compact cargo]

Veteran Smoke gives a ton of thp

And beer!

What else could you want, best vt2 career

[nocturne dust]

A 2 handed Kruber warhammer

[desert yoke]

Wait what?

Smoke gives you health?

[unreal wasp]

Ranger Vet

[compact cargo]

Ranger veteran*

[unreal wasp]

Bardin

[nocturne dust]

wrong game

[desert yoke]

Oh

[potent echo]

That's a weird way to spell unchained

[desert yoke]

Never played vermintife

[compact cargo]

Veteran smoke here lowers your fps and breaks enemy pathing

Wait, if veteran smoke gave toughness it'd be quite good

[desert yoke]

They really should improve smoke

I’ve seen it like 5 times at most

[unreal wasp]

And also sometimes doesn't keep enemies from attacking you even if there were players outside of the smoke

[potent echo]

Smoke needs an instant detonation

The fuse is way too long

[compact cargo]

Snipers ignore smoke
Hordes just don't lunge
Ranged enemies change target and sometimes ignore it
Heavies keep firing through

[sturdy tendon]

Tbh getting used to DarkTide ruined any notion of me being able to play VerminTide

[unreal wasp]

Haven't had that happen to me personally but I've had a Vet smoke an objective, get on it, and I watch enemies just run into the smoke and smack him

[desert yoke]

It’s just like do you want:
-mass bleed frag grenades
-armour destroying grenades
-smoke grenades

Lol

[compact cargo]

Can still play outcast engineer

[sturdy tendon]

No sprinting, sliding and temp HP

[potent echo]

Smoke grenades are great okay

[plucky flax]

Smoke nades are goated.

[desert yoke]

I’m over here smokin’ my grenade

(I’ve never used them)

[potent echo]

Achyls/gorgon v0.5

[sturdy tendon]

It's pretty good on venting purge sniper spam

Although it makes you see even less shit

[potent echo]

Smoke just makes diving actually safe and not a prayer

[unreal wasp]

Ah yes, putting down smoke to hide from the snipers that are hiding in the already present smoke

[potent echo]

You throw smoke at the enemies

[sturdy tendon]

Fun mod

[round charm]

man, that build that agent gave me earlier works like a charm. just need to get better at not getting hit

[potent echo]

Then run in

[sturdy tendon]

The tertium rave party modifier

[desert yoke]

I’ll never understand why people don’t get this

Even in games like Squad, they throw smokes at their feet instead of at the enemy

It’s so odd

[nocturne dust]

same, I vastly prefer Darktide even with all the... problems

[sturdy tendon]

Post mastery I have no reason to look at VerminTide anymore

Whatever weapon I want I will eventually get

[potent echo]

Vermintide has better banter

Wait a minute

[plucky flax]

Top tier psyker pogchimp

[nocturne dust]

You'll never get original javelin

[round charm]

i like vermintide a lot, but its still too grindy to gear

[desert yoke]

I’ve only seen a clip of them talking about cheese

[potent echo]

Watch them add reds to darktide (next year)

[sturdy tendon]

Tbh it's so rare that I hear banter anymore, auric damnation doesn't have enough breaks for banter to trigger consistently

[nocturne dust]

I do wish they'd stuck with actual characters and banter like in Vermintide

[plucky flax]

But then you can't always play psyker.

[nocturne dust]

Wdym, we already have red... skins.

[plucky flax]

1 per team kinda sucks.

[desert yoke]

https://youtu.be/kMJVqKFuisM?si=pOwk6yPcMhxhF7mT

[plucky flax]

I prefer the freedom of playing whatever class I want with mates.

[nocturne dust]

Yeah but the personalities don't really interact with duplicates anyway

[unreal wasp]

Biggest reason I play Darktide over Vermintide, not forced to not play the class I want to play if someone else wants to play a different class (or the same class) on that character

[sturdy tendon]

If they have different personalities they do

Though

[nocturne dust]

Exactly

[sturdy tendon]

I had a game with 3 F Savant Psykers including me

[nocturne dust]

Established characters don't need to be any different

[sturdy tendon]

Felt like a schizo episode

[desert yoke]

LOL

“My beloved says your beloved is stupid!”

“Yeah? Well my beloved says….”

[unreal wasp]

Wanting to play Warrior Priest but then your friend wants to play Bounty Hunter or another friend wants to play Zealot

[sturdy tendon]

Like one of us goes on a killing spree and hearing the same voice talking to you and complimenting you

[desert yoke]

Lore accurate psyker

Who tf is the seer even speaking to

[nocturne dust]

"No beloved, we can't kill everyone"
The other psyker: "Thank you, beloved!"

[desert yoke]

Is it the seer who has their beloved?

[sturdy tendon]

At least not a lot of people run F judge

So I am usually alone in using that voice

[unreal wasp]

If it's "My Beloved" that they're talking to, they, at the very least, believe it's the emperor

[round charm]

id like to think its the warp itself, just in a sexy pose

[sturdy tendon]

Either a shard of the emperor or a daemon

50/50

[desert yoke]

Yeah, I just can’t imagine it actually being the emperor

[mossy oyster]

its the emperor

[nocturne dust]

I dunno if a shard of emps would encourage killing the squad

[round charm]

the stronger a psyker gets, the tastier a mcnugget he becomes

[unreal wasp]

I like the idea that two of the psyker personalities believe that their powers are a gift from the Emperor

The other being Savant

Then you have the warp gremlin

[nocturne dust]

I think Beloved is a demon masquerading as emps

[late sapphire]

I dunno he has never had a good temper

[nocturne dust]

Fair, I dunno wh40k lore cuz I'm not a fan

[desert yoke]

This guy HATES warhammer 40k

[nocturne dust]

Religiously.

[unreal wasp]

Grab that guy

[desert yoke]

Put him in the sack

[sturdy tendon]

Hates Warhammer yet plays it

Curious

[nocturne dust]

All hail Chaos

https://tenor.com/view/teletubbies-dipsy-running-away-scared-run-away-gif-25928776

[desert yoke]

You hate the imperium get you are a citizen of it. Curious.

[nocturne dust]

Are heretics citizens?

[sturdy tendon]

The interrogation of Salvor Lementov has some great lines in regards to this actually

"you, are an honorable man Salvor Lementov, I regret to say it, but the galaxy spits on honorable men"

[unreal wasp]

Expatriots at the very least

[desert yoke]

I forgot the name of that commissar swordmaster who cut a chaos marine’s arm off

Wish he won the fight, honestly

[sturdy tendon]

Ci ci Ciaphas Cain hero of the imperium?

[desert yoke]

Maybe

[sturdy tendon]

Did you know that Ciaphas reads like Kiaphas

[nocturne dust]

I heard from a Reddit comment that Ciaphas died of old age.

[desert yoke]

Oh, maybe not him then

[nocturne dust]

I have the most reliable source, lol.

[sturdy tendon]

I am reading his books now

They are very fun

Commissar Cain is a very likeable character

[desert yoke]

It’s this guy who’s great with a sword and he cuts a space marine’s arm off
But the SM just tanks it and takes the opportunity to kill him

[nocturne dust]

Also I want to note that I have no idea who Ciaphas is, I only have that context from that one reddit comment

[sturdy tendon]

Ciaphas Cain is a hero with impostor syndrome and a great drive for self preservation in a culture that celebrates martyrs

[nocturne dust]

Sounds like a good story.

[sturdy tendon]

It is

But it's so ancient that some of the lore surrounding it is out of date

Like having skitarii shouting, or Necrons using the warp

[nocturne dust]

The skitarii shouting is just a speaker attached to them

(I had no idea skitarii don't shout, lol)

[sturdy tendon]

Skitarii communicate with each other using the noosphere

Aka the internet of the ad mech

[nocturne dust]

Dunno what that is

ah

[late sapphire]

bluetooth toasters

[nocturne dust]

So they need to touch grass

I don't really get into the lore of wh40k because I find the whole grim darkness part depressing

[sturdy tendon]

Depends on the story

Not all is constantly grim and dark

There are plenty of pockets of happiness and regular lives

[nocturne dust]

I mean sure, but the whole is pretty bad

[sturdy tendon]

What makes them so eery and frightening is their complete silence and extreme synchronization

[sturdy tendon]

Understandable

[radiant frigate]

what if you tap into their comms

what would you find

[sturdy tendon]

Binaric or other incomprehensible languages

[potent echo]

Dial up modem sounds

[languid dragon]

Should I keep going or do I stop since its only warp resistance that goes up

[waxen jackal]

No way dude, I clutched this match. Got the last scripture I needed and my game crashed on the elevator

False alarm. I still got all the stuff

[plucky flax]

If you crash there's a grace period.

Like 5 mins or so.

You even get the gift and dockets/plasteels if the match is finished.

[waxen jackal]

I got scared cuz I just pressed the elevator button and then crashed

Good to know tho

[vestal fulcrum]

Wait, really?

[round charm]

isnt blast radius the dump?

[languid dragon]

you're thinking void strike

[round charm]

oh, i can read

my b

[old ore]

does the item's power lvl do anything?

[plucky flax]

Yes.

[quartz barn]

Never changed from what i can tell

Still tied to dmg output etc

[old ore]

just not noticing a dmg difference between a 320 and a 470 weapon

but I guess the current dmg roll is more important

[quartz barn]

I mean its the overal rating, so if the dmg stat is the same on both you'll do the same dmg

[sturdy tendon]

The power difference makes no difference if the important stats are already maxed

If it's only the dump stats that gets raised than yeah you'll see no difference

[late sapphire]

No, it's not like vermintide 2

Which is why i think calling it power level and putting it to 500 scaling is dumb it's just total statline rating * ~1.31

[winter siren]

blessing descriptions still broken

what makes it funnier is its only 1 tier of a blessing. 1,2,4 all read right.

[potent echo]

I don't get this blessing honestly

You gotta hit horde in order to hit crushers

But also only for 2.5 seconds

[sturdy tendon]

It looks pretty good against scab rager congas though

[glossy escarp]

A ripper with light em up will also be pretty good against rager congas

[sturdy tendon]

Plenty of enemies that are not Pox walkers where rending is useful

[glossy escarp]

And nearly everything else as well

[sturdy tendon]

I like heavy sword against rager spam

SP>H1
Rinse and repeat

[glossy escarp]

Oh right

This isn't ogryn chat, sorry siblings

I mean trauma blaze or empowered smite will annihilate everything

Glory to psykos

[potent echo]

Flak ragers seem like the only thing the blessing is made for

[late sapphire]

bruisers too

[sturdy tendon]

Moebian 21st

[potent echo]

Headtaker brumo deals with them fine

[wind spruce]

Thrust headtaker is my go to on heavy sword now

Shit is so strong

[potent echo]

Thrust?

[late sapphire]

No brumo 😭

[potent echo]

Heavyswords have thrust?

[glossy escarp]

21st pisses me off sometimes man, they're so chunky compared to the normal trash

[wind spruce]

Yeah as of this patch

[late sapphire]

As of unlocked and loaded they do

[potent echo]

[sturdy tendon]

They are also so fast and deadly

[glossy escarp]

But I don't see them, I notice the TTK skyrockets

[sturdy tendon]

Can't wait for the event to be over tbh

I am so over them now

[wind spruce]

Just a casual +100% power on full stacks

[potent echo]

Tbh they do add actual horde density to the game

[plucky flax]

I think someone mentioned the 21st chaffs have flak head too.

Even if the model is naked head.

[potent echo]

Yea they do, tested in psyk

[glossy escarp]

It's a cool idea but I'm partly color blind, so in the dark areas it's a crapshoot to tell them apart

[potent echo]

Also you can hear the flak hits

[sturdy tendon]

At least Bromentum heavy sword chunks then all the same

[glossy escarp]

Same with seeing shooters and such

[sturdy tendon]

They are annoying on my Thammer Zealot though

But at least they get perma staggered

[potent echo]

Flak vs thammer cleave

[plucky flax]

I do damage so much less on vet compared to psyker.

I am just noob vet player.

[potent echo]

Uncanny shids all over them

[sturdy tendon]

Spam frags

Frags are love

Can't leave home without em

[wind spruce]

Vet worst class. Psyker best. Simples.

[potent echo]

I would have said zealot worst class but thammer buffs

[plucky flax]

I am stealing ds4 from psyker to use on vet.

Not sure what 2nd blessing to use.

[sturdy tendon]

I ran DS4 WS vet recently

[plucky flax]

I tried riposte uncanny but I already have this one so it didn't feel that good.

[sturdy tendon]

It's rough on the fingers

[wind spruce]

I'm assuming you're taking rampage?

[plucky flax]

So I am trying uncanny shred now.

[wind spruce]

Oh surprising

[plucky flax]

No I am horde clearing with db shotgun. 😄

[wind spruce]

Lmao fair

[plucky flax]

Weapon specialist and double barrel.

[sturdy tendon]

That's exactly what I ran

With kraks

[plucky flax]

Just spam shotgun into horde after 1 melee kill Xd

[potent echo]

Really cool except no assail

[sturdy tendon]

It's pretty fun

[plucky flax]

1 melee kill = 1 free shell

[sturdy tendon]

But the apm is rough on the fingers

[potent echo]

But you get smokes

[plucky flax]

Veri based keystone.

[wind spruce]

Assail is bad didn't you hear

[round charm]

assail is great

[plucky flax]

I tried deathspitter manstopper last round but it didn't feel too good so I am trying manstopper scattershot this time.

[sturdy tendon]

Vet keystones are so weird

[potent echo]

Do manstopper double barrel

[wind spruce]

I be memein'

[round charm]

jesus, thats some damage

[vestal fulcrum]

Scattershot is fairly redundant since you can rely on WS to guarantee crits

[potent echo]

Imagine a darktide where this can be on zealot, psyker or vet 🥹

[plucky flax]

I understand. But I am not waiting for 10 stacks of WS for crit.

[wind spruce]

Deathspitter feels like it would usually drop off before doing anything outside of back to back shots into a large horde. Might aswell go for the crit

[round charm]

do gun using psykers use anything other than scriers usually?

[plucky flax]

I literally get 1 melee kill for free ammo and shoot again.

[potent echo]

It's 3 stacks, you get 33% per stack

[vestal fulcrum]

but you only need like 3

[plucky flax]

Huh...

[potent echo]

Technically 2

[plucky flax]

Maybe I go fullbore.

I dunno deathspitter didn't feel that good.

[vestal fulcrum]

Full Bore is ass

[plucky flax]

Maybe bleed actually.

[wind spruce]

Sometimes bubble and more rarely shriek. 99% of the time scriers.

[plucky flax]

The bleed shotty.

[potent echo]

Deathspitter is weird

[vestal fulcrum]

16 pellets with wide spread is hard to achieve Full Bore reliably

[potent echo]

Double barrel is the way to go

[stuck sinew]

Shriek is nice if you want horde clear

[round charm]

i found myself forgetting to even use scriers when i was shooting

[plucky flax]

I went manstopper flechette.

It will bleed.

[potent echo]

Mad man

[wind spruce]

Yeah I still do that despite hundreds of true levels using scriers.

[vestal fulcrum]

If I had to play DB on Vet, I’d go Deathspitter/Manstopper or Manstopper/Flechette, or Manstopper/Quick-load (or Double Barrel for quicker chained disposition of fat elites)

[plucky flax]

Vet is built different.

I have p shout and it's literally impossible to lose.

Pls nerf this ability.

[vestal fulcrum]

barrels Agent off the map

[plucky flax]

[potent echo]

Yellow toughness should give stagger resist too

[plucky flax]

It should just give invisibility+invincibility during the duration.

[potent echo]

[round charm]

a teamwide invis would be disgusting

[plucky flax]

[potent echo]

What do the heretics even fight

[plucky flax]

Veri fair and balanced for vet.

[vestal fulcrum]

Could be a very exploitable but very cool augment for Smoke Grenades

[round charm]

i was literally just thinking that

[vestal fulcrum]

… if Blitzes other than Psyker’s would have upgrades in the first place

[potent echo]

Oneday bombs away on ogryn will be good

[sturdy tendon]

Oh right one of the bistol blessings applies to grenades

I gotta see how that works

My beloved frags are gonna shred hordes so much harder

[potent echo]

Wait they do

[round charm]

which recon lasgun is the good one?

[sturdy tendon]

Yes

[sturdy tendon]

Everyone of them has a different strength

[round charm]

the crit string one

[wind spruce]

Vld.

You want the fastest firing one

[sturdy tendon]

I personally like XII( formerly VId)

[round charm]

ok, so its the XII now?

[sturdy tendon]

Ye

[round charm]

ok, so im good to go here then

[wind spruce]

Yeah but you want to dump collateral not mobility

(not that it's a big deal)

[round charm]

aethaeneum says differently

but it makes sense you want them jiggling less for better headshot control

too bad im outta money

[sturdy tendon]

One of the recons has some funky interactions with Psyker

The one that consumes 2 ammo per shot and has cleave

[round charm]

how so?

[echo root]

You can get one gazillion cleave

[sturdy tendon]

You can raise the Cleave higher

[round charm]

so it just has uber penetration?

[echo root]

The peril = cleave perk

[potent echo]

14 is the one with cleave

[round charm]

interesting

[potent echo]

It's like the agrip brauto of recons

[sturdy tendon]

Yeah, you can have the cleave of the Revolver on an automatic weapon

[wind spruce]

I did like 2 minutes of testing and I was hitting the same number of bruisers (2) at no peril as I was at full

[echo root]

You drop collateral to 60% since it makes things not fall over / move their head around while you're shooting them.

[potent echo]

Bruisers are thicc

[wind spruce]

Idk if I was being dumb though, I got bored of it quickly

[potent echo]

Maybe on poxwalkers

[wind spruce]

Yeah possibly

[round charm]

when do you use scriers? i just keep holding it

i think i played 2 games forgetting to press it at all

[potent echo]

Anytime your peril hits zero

[echo root]

On cooldown

[wind spruce]

As soon as you start firing your recon or meleeing something which isn't an isolated special

[potent echo]

But yea because I hold gaze too much I just took creeping instead

[round charm]

so 2+ people, dump the scree?

[potent echo]

You'll get a feel for it

[wind spruce]

If you're shooting with TTS you can just pop scriers at 90%. You'll go straight back down to 0 before half your clips empty

[potent echo]

But when edging at high peril I rarely think about SG

But yea perhaps with the talent it'll be better

Haven't tried it in a game yet

I have a bpistol gaze and dbshotty gaze build

[wind spruce]

It's absolutely nuts. And if you use surety of arms your reload is usually quick enough that you can start shooting again before a 15-20+ stack scriers hits max peril and just drop it to zero again

[potent echo]

I hate that surety still gives peril above 80% where it has no effect like why

[wind spruce]

Or even without surety tbf (I've only really tested it for a game or two)

[wind spruce]

It shouldn't do, does it?

Do you mean when scriers is active

[potent echo]

It does

[wind spruce]

Da fuq

[potent echo]

Nah just when you are at >80

I played dbshotty and it's just blegh

I just took both barrels blessings and forgot the talent

[wind spruce]

So you start the reload when you're above 75% and you gain peril?

[potent echo]

It gains at the end of the reload

It's so scuffed

[wind spruce]

Yeah but it should have a peril check at the start of the reload to see if it's going to be faster

[potent echo]

I guess it's to prevent you from spamming reload cancel to get 100% peril instantly

[wind spruce]

Ok just to be be really clear. Scenario is you hit reload when you're at 80% peril. When you finish the reload you're still at 80% peril, and then surety puts you up to 100%?

[potent echo]

Yea

It's more usually the case where you start reloading at 80%, your peril drops but gets shot back up, but you don't get the reload speed

[wind spruce]

Lame

Hopefully they're aware of it

But also I only like 80% believe you xD

[wind spruce]

In general, yeah. You'll also want to hold back scriers sometimes when there's a bunch of shooters you want to assail, but this isn't as relevant now that we have warp unbound

[vestal fulcrum]

Warp Unbound is sort of a must-pick right now, no?

I still haven’t played the “new” Gun Psyker

[wind spruce]

Definitely is, yeah

ALSO, kinetic resonance scriers is now real af

Big upgrade for my old non-assail gunker build

[wind spruce]

I was going to say something nice then I saw zealot

But, also, nice

[fiery stratus]

Lmao

Its kinda psyker adjacent tbh, the build is almost the same as my gun psyker. Swap scriers/fury knives/assail

obviously they function differently

[forest path]

hi can i ask anyone what is the best build for psyker now? not psyker gun tho.

[sturdy tendon]

I'd say Eletrokinetic Warp Siphon Creeping flames is the best generalist build with the most ease of use

What's best though is purely subjective

[potent echo]

Best depends on how well you can pilot the build

[forest path]

i want to know what os best for auric mailstrom solo or duo

[potent echo]

It's not easy answer as pee vet

[sturdy tendon]

Yeah, there's no Plasma gun here

[potent echo]

The easiest to pilot build for sure is EP smite

With ER

[sturdy tendon]

But you can role play as a plasma gun vet with Voidstrike

[wind spruce]

That doesn't make any sense bro

[potent echo]

But idk about promoting that playstyle

[wind spruce]

If you are good enough for duos or solos the answer is going to depend on your skill with the staff in question

[potent echo]

Maybe we are being trolled

[forest path]

no

[potent echo]

If you are playing duos you can definitely make anything work

As long as your build has options vs hordes/elites/bosses

[fiery stratus]

solo auric you need like perfect placement, or the abilty to stagger ie trauma

[wind spruce]

WAKE UP KIDS, NEW GUNKER BUILD JUST DROPPED!

[fiery stratus]

but i like assail for when im bad and walk into a room of gunners

[potent echo]

No flayer uwu

[forest path]

i feel like when im try to cover my weakness there will be another

[wind spruce]

This is frenetic psyker. You run AT the pack of gunners.

[sturdy tendon]

That's the nature of all builds

Take a good horde clearer now you can't snipe

Take a sniper but you can't horde clear

[round charm]

the build i got from someone the other day has smite instead of assail. id love assail, though. i prefer being more active than just waiting for my team to kill for me

[fiery stratus]

this game wasn't designed for solo really, always a opening somewhere

[sturdy tendon]

Etc etc

[wind spruce]

Blaze trauma with kinetic resonance. Boom, no weaknesses.

[wind spruce]

You definitely want assail on your standard gunker builds.

[forest path]

try that

[fiery stratus]

If they made a solo mode they'd have to tune it to 1 player. Even the average auric player has a real hard time soloing

[forest path]

wont work

[potent echo]

You cant have everything, you will only be semi bad at something though

My standard
Deimos
Assail
Voidstrike

Isn't very good vs bosses but decent

[late sapphire]

voidstrike balling

[wind spruce]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d2b3fdb-a7b0-4eda-856e-87229aac49a0/burn-gunker

[forest path]

feel the build is good but cant deal what ton of guner reaper sniper

[wind spruce]

This is my recon build.

[wind spruce]

It absolutely can

[sturdy tendon]

The standard void ball has infinite range and hilarious amounts of Suppression

[winter siren]

im running smite surge illisi rn but feeling that "im in danger" moment when i freeze a couple crushers and nobody kills them

[wind spruce]

Just burn them and head pop them, its literally that simple

[late sapphire]

surge can deal well enough with crushers

[potent echo]

Pick up Deimos instead of illisi

[wind spruce]

Just kill them yourself with surge

[potent echo]

The stagger on H2 dunks crushers

[sturdy tendon]

Spam short cast lightnings from the surge

Don't fully charge

Just spam

[forest path]

i know it can but somthime it too far or not fast enough

[late sapphire]

No

flurry bug

[sturdy tendon]

Oh right

[winter siren]

cant surge them fast enough to kill them when they pop out close

[late sapphire]

no reason to half charge anymore

[sturdy tendon]

Fuck me

[wind spruce]

If they are far away they don't matter

[potent echo]

Also short casts means you not really doing damage

Either that or put uncanny on your illisi and it's almost the same

[sturdy tendon]

Once the Flurry bug is fixed it's less about killing them and more about perma staggering them while you chip away at their HP

[potent echo]

They have smite though

[winter siren]

yeah im running precog uncanny illisi, nexus flurry surge, and dome

[potent echo]

Might as well just smite them

[sturdy tendon]

True

[late sapphire]

dome...