psyker-class

[split lance]

Possibly

[strong gulch]

We can also pick this pack up later. It's fun to try to do.

[nocturne dust]

I'ma dip then if we ain't gonna run another one immediately. I'll probably be off my PC by then. 👋

[strong gulch]

Ha! Thanks for the games.

[nocturne dust]

Never forget that Atlas stole all my warpfire. Can't have shit on Atoma.

[strong gulch]

@split lance Also gonna dip.

[strong gulch]

Prometheus behavior.

[split lance]

Sounds good

Fun playing with yall

Even tho atlas was throwing the whole time

[strong gulch]

"Let me pad my numbers" was bait.

rewatching and 😂 😭

[split lance]

I just wanted one more shriek

[strong gulch]

gotta go scream

[wooden flare]

How would I go about making a double barrel Gunker build?

I’d prob want a force sword for easy warp kills no? Or does that not count for warp kills when you power it up

[strong gulch]

The force sword special counts as warp.

I don't know much about the gun, but I do know people have been liking surety of arms with it and revolver.

[potent echo]

I tried it on DB and I'm not a huge fan

Mainly because I don't use DB that often with my build

[split lance]

If I was to do DD surge how would that
Look

[languid dragon]

how much damage does a single stack of soul blaze do?

[nocturne dust]

see pins

[potent echo]

#psyker-class message

Probably like this honestly

This is the new psyker template

[strong gulch]

Basically the same as shriek DD but you have blitz freedom; but that's also pre WU. I haven't tried it with the fix yet.

[potent echo]

WU casting without the crit is

Probably still good but would it be better than creeping

[languid dragon]

but it dont have values lol

reading that graph I can see oh ok not very much

or 4 = just over 10

not very accurate lol

[strong gulch]

Doubt it. The aoe and uttility is hard to beat. SG WU surge is just another way to play. I don't think it's gonna be better.

A sinlge stack of SB isn't much and it varies by what it's applied to. IDK if you have access to mods, but debuff indicator will help you find those figures.

[rotund fable]

Inferno staff with penetrating flames and warp flurry is a pretty fun combination. the brittleness on crushers means I don't have to swap to my melee with uncanny as often when I get rushed by a pack of them.

[languid dragon]

Should I take solidity or puppet master?

only have room for one or the other

[crisp yacht]

staff build? probably solidity if so

[languid dragon]

yeah trying to do a voidblast soul blaze build

[crisp yacht]

solidity for sure

[languid dragon]

trying to get to warp siphon

[rotund fable]

my personal opinion: Solidity if run quietude for self sustain, Puppet master if you want to support the team.

[nocturne dust]

solidity, puppet master is not that great

[languid dragon]

Fair enough. What is coherency aura?

[nocturne dust]

It's a proximity buff you get when around the team

[languid dragon]

I do run quietude

[hearty cave]

So, in general, I play mostly Psyker, so much that over my 1k hours, I dont even have Ogryn to 30, and Vet is still under 20. I instantly fell in love with the Purgatus Staff, and when the released the Illisi, I took to it. For some reason, even though it says single target, the Illisi seems to cleave pretty well either way.

With that being said, what are good suggestions for other weapons loadouts? I have trouble not being able to use force swords to block bullets to close distance, and the flame staff to purge the heretics, using the Venting Shriek to quell, and the build feels like it covers all bases except long range, so I use Brain Burst for that, and heavy targets, like crushers.

[nocturne dust]

It is your aura (+elite damage/crit chance/ability cooldown) and a flat toughness regen (which is minor).

[frozen loom]

do same auras stack? like if 2 psykers have prescient

[languid dragon]

what about the next node, Penetration of the Soul or Empyric Resolve?

[glossy escarp]

Soublaze trauma is really fun, I run it with the mk4 dueling sword

[nocturne dust]

Generally, Empyric Resolve but ER is also dangerous if you're not prepared (and not really necessary if you don't like it)

[hearty cave]

I used to use duelling, until the Illisi came out. The ability to knock over ragers on call, block bullets and decent single target as well as group damage is hard to pass up. Does the trauma have the ability to knock over ragers easily? how do you deal with ranged units?

[frozen loom]

PotS doesn't work right

[nocturne dust]

The ds4 special stuns ragers and crushers

If you want another force sword that can block bullets, the Deimos is the single-target version

[glossy escarp]

Trauma knocks over anything except mutants and monsters, I use brain burst for long range

[nocturne dust]

Except never use the special on Deimos, its power is entirely in the h2 which will knockdown anything that isn't a boss if you hit its head

[glossy escarp]

And if you headshot, the dueling sword special staggers mutants out of their charge

[steel flame]

Yeah if you don't have your toughness Regen sorted empyric resolve can be a death sentence

[glossy escarp]

It's crazy

[steel flame]

Oop meant to reply

[hollow jolt]

Just don't get hit

[valid talon]

Hey guys, I havent played in a long time and could use a refresher. Does anyone have links to a good build or general advice?

[hollow jolt]

Empyric Resolve is a free -40% peril gen

[valid talon]

I'm using a MK4 duel sword and voidstrike right now

[hearty cave]

heavy attacks, lights, or specials stun them?
And I have used the Deimos, I just prefer the crowd control of Illisi

[valid talon]

Yeah I saw that skill and was like WHAT

[hollow jolt]

To be honest, I've literally not seen a voidstrike in months

[nocturne dust]

Something tells me the psykers asking for advice aren't in the 1% of psykers that never get hit

[hollow jolt]

From reg damnation to maelstroms

[nocturne dust]

I run voidstrike

[valid talon]

So...is voidstrike not good anymore?

[hollow jolt]

Then that'll be an important lesson to learn

[nocturne dust]

No, it's fine

[valid talon]

What do you usually see then?

[nocturne dust]

All the staves are good

[hollow jolt]

I literally don't know

I should research it

[steel flame]

Surge/nexus void is excellent

[valid talon]

I imagine if most people arnt using it then its probably not the best

[glossy escarp]

It's more a question of whether it's meta, no?

[nocturne dust]

The ds4 special, which is a jab, stuns on a headshot

[glossy escarp]

All of them feel good imo

[nocturne dust]

All of them are meta, some are just more meta than others

but like, they're all very strong

[valid talon]

Is the force staff still strong?

[steel flame]

You can actually take scriers with staves now with the new scriers upgrade that prevents blowing up

[hollow jolt]

Yes

[nocturne dust]

Voidstrike is probably the 'worst' because it requires a bit of aiming unlike every other staff

[valid talon]

Well, I remember it was weak but there was some kinda bug

And that apparently made it really strong

[hearty cave]

ah, ok, the special. Its always a bit hard for me to tag a single rager with it mid horde. Its why I like the block attack on force swords, it knocks rages on the ground, as well as nearby mobs

[hollow jolt]

Those bugs were fixed months ago

[steel flame]

Lightning or ground pound?

[valid talon]

Lightning

[hollow jolt]

Don't rely on them anymore 😔

[valid talon]

I assumed the bugs were fixed so I was curious how it holds up

[nocturne dust]

The surge (renamed electrokinetic) staff is currently the best staff

[valid talon]

I remember the floor one and the flamethrower one being really bad

But it seems they buffed them according to you lot

[hearty cave]

The flame one is good for crowds, and thats about it

[nocturne dust]

Purgatus/Inferno is a monster, and fire trauma is immune to melee

[valid talon]

Yeah but I got a dueling sword for crowds lmao

[hearty cave]

it just doesnt have good dmge for much else

[nocturne dust]

Completely incorrect, it kills everything except crushers. Even does okay damage against bosses.

[hearty cave]

I mean, I melt groups of maulers and sometimes even ragers, but honestly, only if they are in a group

[valid talon]

Is dueling sword still a strong pick for psyker?

[nocturne dust]

Blaze Away is good, unsurprisingly

[jovial juniper]

Bad
Bad
Bad mindset

[nocturne dust]

ds4 is probably the strongest melee rn

[steel flame]

Surge m1 spam with surge/nexus is probably one of the best things in the game right now but it requires quell canceling to work, other than that surge staff is just good , not crazy

[valid talon]

Call it whatever you want, i'm not some super-pro playing the highest difficulties with experience

[nocturne dust]

other than maybe power sword on vet 🤔

[restive slate]

Voidstrike is good for bowling enemy heads

[valid talon]

I'm coming back after near a year

[hearty cave]

the main issue for it is the lack of range, but I also use spreading flames to try and counter that somewhat

watching whole areas on fire is fun

[valid talon]

So I just need advice for something solid while I figure things out

[nocturne dust]

slide.

[hearty cave]

I just block with my force sword and walk forward, lol

[nocturne dust]

ew

[hearty cave]

I never mastered the slide stuff

[nocturne dust]

I mean, you definitely have to if you want to be good at aurics, but otherwise, fair

[hearty cave]

I dont really play aurics

[lethal lagoon]

I have a scoreboard that says otherwise

(lmao the fire steal mechnaic is hilarious)

[valid talon]

I'm glad the RNG system seems to be gone

[hearty cave]

I'll join groups if they want me, but I'm almost strictly crowd control

[nocturne dust]

[nocturne dust]

Shush you DoT thief

[rotund fable]

This is my current Voidstrike build. Sit back a bit and launch the balls at about head height to go bowling for crits and delete whole lines of enemies. Empowered psionics is there for the rare occasion where 3 fast Brain Burst's are needed, but i go back and forth between it and Disrupt Destiny all the time.

[lethal lagoon]

I swear on Tren's life I never shriek below 83.3%(on purpose)

[hearty cave]

but yeah, for the most part, my time is spent on Damn or Heresy normal, and occasionally Heresy Aurics

[lethal lagoon]

[nocturne dust]

I mean shriek outranges purgatus by a lot

[potent echo]

The influx of level <50 in pub Aurics really love to hold W

If you don't do that the chances of surviving skyrockets

[rotund fable]

also goes through walls... and I once accidentally triggered a daemonhost by shrieking at it through a wall.

[steel flame]

I wish I could be more help but im deep on the crazy side of psyker builds that people in this discord just can't comprehend

[hearty cave]

I dont have true level downloaded, but I know I gotta be up there, lol. But even I know my limits, lower Aurics at best

[nocturne dust]

I've been noticing pubs pushing way harder since train came out, to their extreme detriment

[potent echo]

Boss spawns are triggered by invisible lines you cross so don't push forward during a horde/special wave and it's easy

[valid talon]

Well maybe just advice on melee weapons then

[potent echo]

Train event is unlimited spawn so it's better to push forward

[valid talon]

What ones do you guys like? Using the duel sword 4 right now

But I see we have a few more options than before

[hearty cave]

And the couple of times I was recruited into a damnation or maeltrom auric, I never left my staff, crowd control eternal, burning the chaff so the team can focus on elites and specials, and objectives

[nocturne dust]

ds4/deimos for single targets, the meta is illisi for hordes but I dislike illisi and am using the devil's claw currently

[steel flame]

But if you want any gun psyker builds or a fire trauma build that puts purgatus to shame or a shotgun psyker I can help there

[hearty cave]

I loved the heavy sword from zealots during my time as a shouty, but honestly, compared to the illisi, the HS just kinda falls off.
I guess its augmented by the fact that they get melee based passives and stuff alot

[potent echo]

HS is better than illisi

[wooden flare]

So remember when I asked if I could do a DB Gunker? Well I accidentally turned my Zealot into the Doomslayer

[nocturne dust]

I mean, it is against trash isn't it

[potent echo]

Yea that's it's job

[steel flame]

@nocturne dust If you put scriers with rampage/uncanny ds4 it fucks up hordes like nobodies business with lights

[valid talon]

I've found the duel sword can handle hordes too, is it not the case on higher difficulties?

[potent echo]

You have gun/staff for elites

[hearty cave]

honestly, aft6er doing like 5 missions with HS after the update on my psyker, I still prefer the Illisi. The lack of a bullet shield hurts my plastyle too much

[potent echo]

Deflector

[valid talon]

I don't remember using the power sword much

[hearty cave]

you leave Deflector alone, its my saving grace, lol

[nocturne dust]

I mean, you can use anything to defeat hordes if you're patient and skilled enough, but no ds4 ain't that great against hordes at higher levels because hordes balloon in numbers

[potent echo]

Ds4 can horde clear if you put rampage on it, with DD and warp splitting it's decent

[nocturne dust]

Should be built-in

[hearty cave]

its half the reason I susrvive major ranged groups

[steel flame]

I remember when it was

[nocturne dust]

true

[steel flame]

Those were good times

[hearty cave]

The the Emperor have mercy, I dont know what I'd do with myself, lol

[valid talon]

What are some good blessings for the duel sword and power sword then?

[potent echo]

Powersword?

[valid talon]

I dont even have a power sword but I do have a devils claw 1

[hearty cave]

power sword or force sword?

[valid talon]

The illisi blaze whatever

[nocturne dust]

Combine slaughterer/uncanny and make the sword do some real damage

[valid talon]

Force sword

[nocturne dust]

a what

[steel flame]

I was literally typing the same question xP

[strong gulch]

Agree. At the very least the block shouldn't impair our sight like it does.

[frozen loom]

deflector should be built into that peril block node

[nocturne dust]

Mods are a pathway to many abilities some consider... unnatural

[strong gulch]

Ye.

[nocturne dust]

KD is already good, let force swords have this

[frozen loom]

wait ur right
should be built into the force swords instead

[nocturne dust]

Illisi likes slaughterer. You can run uncanny or deflector for the other blessing. I forget what the other blessing should be for maximum horde murder.

[strong gulch]

Unstable?

[valid talon]

What even is rending?

[potent echo]

I run uncanny slaughterer and it's the simplest

[valid talon]

Unstable power looks like it can slap yeah

[steel flame]

Armor pierce, in the simplest terms

[potent echo]

Unstable loses to slaughterer easily

[nocturne dust]

How much you ignore armor, i.e. carapace (crushers)

[valid talon]

I can definately see that being useful

[steel flame]

Rending is...complicated

[strong gulch]

Talking about both for max horde mulching.

[potent echo]

I only take unstable on my Deimos mainly for boss dps

[valid talon]

On my dueling sword I have precognition and uncanny strike

[hearty cave]

Deflector is good, I use it to stop bullet hell games, but if you got the slide down, dont worry as much about it.
Executor is also insanely good if you hit heads constantly.
I run Slaughterer with my deflector, cuz kills rack up on trash mobs
Uncanny strike is really good to strip armour and do good dmg as well
Shred and Blazing Spirit is a good combo if you use spreading flames

[potent echo]

Executor also loses to slaughterer doesn't it

[steel flame]

I almost never use deflector because most of my stuff abuses empathic evasion

[nocturne dust]

Duelling sword I take uncanny (of course) and thrust (which is controversial because many prefer the on-dodge blessings, but it's really hard to beat thrust's ability to chew through mutants and other people interrupting your ranged fun)

[potent echo]

I never use deflector because assail exists

Shooters are shootn't

[strong gulch]

I would slaughterer uncanny for illisi if deflector isn't the go to for someone. Outside of that you're doing something rather specific or niche.

[hearty cave]

yes, cuz it is more power on slaughterer, for longer periods, but it requires a kill, which for monsters isnt always an options

[nocturne dust]

Assail is sadly not faster than bullet 😔

[potent echo]

Even for bosses executor isn't the best

Only against plagryns you can super consistently hit heads

Chaos spawn lol

[frozen loom]

for force swords i generally see a pair between: slaughterer, deflector, and uncanny. Unstable is nice if you can keep up the peril, but that's its own issue?

DS usually goes uncanny, riposte? Have people tested if agile is good?

[steel flame]

Agile is the go fast perk

[potent echo]

And during hordes it's super easy to keep up max slaughterer and mess up the elites mixed inside

[nocturne dust]

I mean, agile isn't bad but it's defensive

[hearty cave]

when they first released assail, and it was super good, you could do entire aurics with JUST the darts, and carry on top of it

[nocturne dust]

all damage, all the time

[steel flame]

I find the dodge perks completely overkill

[potent echo]

I like thrust on DS but it's a playstyle thing

[steel flame]

You just end up doing more overkill on stuff you can already one tap

[nocturne dust]

Thrust is the best blessing to come to duelling sword and I'm thankful others don't like it so it doesn't get nerfed. Instead, the base sword will be, lol.

[frozen loom]

zealot chat likes using thrust

[strong gulch]

I've been like relentless strikes as my DS second perk. I haven't tested anything for min maxing tho.

[potent echo]

You just oneshot stuff and it feels good

It's not that much worse than the other options so

[hearty cave]

ok, zealots will just try to oneshot with thammers, their opinions dont really count here, lol

[nocturne dust]

It's also easier to activate and kinda just free damage.

[waxen jackal]

I just need 6 more scriptures in the next day. Hopefully I got this

[nocturne dust]

Just don't do the event

Be like me

Ignore it

[waxen jackal]

I neeeeddd the diamantine

[frozen loom]

i didn't realize it was ending soon. I just got it done passively

[potent echo]

Some people need rations

[nocturne dust]

[hearty cave]

yeah, what did it give, melk bucks?

[nocturne dust]

Since when was diamantine a need

[hearty cave]

pff, I got like 30k of those

[potent echo]

I have too much rations

[atomic swan]

Slaughterer lose to everything because i dont use force sword to chop more than 3 heretics

[potent echo]

30k

Those are rookie numbers

[steel flame]

If I remember my diamantine is sitting at 70k

[strong gulch]

Same. I can't finish this mac n cheese.

[frozen loom]

even deimos easily stacks slaughterer

[nocturne dust]

Me cutting through a horde with devil's claw:

[potent echo]

My Deimos uses uncanny unstable

[waxen jackal]

I have 50. And Everytime I get a good stockpile, I want to try out a new weapon

[hearty cave]

I been gone for like 3 months until the weapon overhaul

[potent echo]

Unstable is just consistent and it just works no nothing no buildup

[nocturne dust]

Unless you're like me and quell habitually like a man fighting off withdrawal

[potent echo]

I almost never quell with new psyker tree

Crack of the bone is crack to my soul

[hearty cave]

I use venting shriek to quell

[nocturne dust]

But it says 11% and not 0% and it irks me

[waxen jackal]

I also really need wound curios so I can try out that crusher zealot. It sounds like a lot of fun

[hearty cave]

why self vent, when I can vent on heretics?

[nocturne dust]

because scrier's. Or bubble.

[nocturne dust]

You don't need diamantine for that

[potent echo]

Marty zealot is actually easy mode if you know what you are doing

[hearty cave]

I actually liked the square shield when I used it, put it at choke holds, pretty useful

[waxen jackal]

No I just also need those lol

I need the diamantine for other stuff

[nocturne dust]

Abandon diamantine, embrace curios

[waxen jackal]

I gotta level up crusher some how

[nocturne dust]

Use it

[hearty cave]

If your getting surrounded, and need the bubble, its already going bad. pony up and save the day, or die like the reject you are\

[nocturne dust]

This man doesn't play auric

[hearty cave]

nope, lol

[potent echo]

But chokes also don't need much help at all, vs dome that stabilises more situations

[nocturne dust]

If you're getting surrounded, it's just normal auric, lol

[waxen jackal]

But I need diamantine to consecrate and empower. Unless I get very very lucky

[potent echo]

Also special nope zone

[nocturne dust]

All enemies all the time everywhere

"There are no brakes on the heretic train"
- Director

[hearty cave]

I have played it, but I treat aurics like an invite only club. I dont go there without an exclusive invite from people who do it normally

[potent echo]

Me when I hold a choke and my 3 clueless teammates die in the open and ragequit

[waxen jackal]

The other day during a heresy mission we had 7 maulers, a DH, and a chaos spawn all together. It was nuts.

[potent echo]

Someone in that lobby was holding W

[hearty cave]

anda again, I almost exclusively run crowd control with the fire staff and illisi

[waxen jackal]

Real. I don't want to be a burden on the rest of the team lol

[nocturne dust]

Illisi and fire staff is indeed a weird combo

[nocturne dust]

If you can carry heresy, you are probably above the majority of auric pubs 💀

[hearty cave]

thing is, the last time I got invited into an auric maelstom, it was monster specials and I was apparently the savior of the day. I can do it, I just dont feel confident enough to do it in pubs

[nocturne dust]

Pubs indeed are a special level of difficulty

[hearty cave]

I was the last man standing for like 10min figh5ting off hordes to get to the team, the fire staff and force shield blocking bullets kept me alive

[nocturne dust]

until the one random who actually knows what they're doing comes in and carries

[hearty cave]

yeah, honestly, I could probably to well with the deimos for more single target, and still keep my bullet sponge

but I also use BB for single target, so I kinda got that covered

[waxen jackal]

Really?

[hearty cave]

yes. But you gotta carry like...you can be last man standing and pick up the team and still finish

[nocturne dust]

Yes but still be prepared to die. When I say that, it's also pointing out just how many pub players are awful 💀

[hearty cave]

yeah, pubs are wracked with people playing aurics and damn missions with sedition level skill

[nocturne dust]

nah, not to this extent. Only with the worst pubs or the unluckiest times.

You've got like a 50% chance for the team to be alright

and then for the server issues to kill you instead

[hearty cave]

I routinely carry in Heresy and Damn, and get asked into aurics on occasion because I simply out performed the whole team. But my numbers are always inflated when I live on the purge staff, and everything gets burned, so ALOT of my kills are shamelessly stolen last hits from DoTs

[potent echo]

The game only ends when you go down, as long as you don't die there's a hope for the game

[nocturne dust]

Like, I'd say if you can carry a heresy mission, just swan dive into auric. Even if you're not great, you're not going to learn auric without some matches on your belt.

[potent echo]

In heresy you aren't punished for holding W though

[nocturne dust]

Bosses

[potent echo]

In auric damn there are so many ambient + boss spawns

And special waves all the time

You turn a corner and 8 bulwarks

[hearty cave]

I had a mission where I killed like 80% of the specials, but only did 40% of the dmg to them. So its like...thats alot of last tick DoT kills

[nocturne dust]

The one that always gets me is turning a corner and immediately getting my toughness broken by a dozen gunners who somehow knew I was coming

[potent echo]

Then boss spawns, then dogwave, then the shooters in the next room start filling in because some poopoohead decided to aggro them

[clear bridge]

A fringe benefit of the disconnect-happy bastards

[hearty cave]

thats whats wrong with people, never enter a doorway until the room is more or less cleared

[potent echo]

It's just over at that point unless you retreat to many rooms away and hope you kill the boss before the horde is done beating on your teammate's bodies

[hearty cave]

I always backpedal into previous rooms before I retreat foward

[potent echo]

Great practice

Is how you solo clutch games (mainly because everyone in front is dead from overextending)

Auric needs at least 1 rear guard to kill the rager/mauler/crusher and special waves from the back

Game goes super smooth if someone is on point with that

[hearty cave]

I have only solo ran a single game, cuz they kept ignoring stuff, running to next door, opening it, and causing more trouble. When they went down, I passed rezzing them to prevent them from being a liability. Whole team of asshats can sit at the capture point for all I care, I will solo this whole level without you

but that was only in malice, lol

[zinc phoenix]

Shock maul with the block blessing and the more damage from zap is a lot of fun with a smite build and feels very thematic. The special attack interrupts crushers and ragers but can be finicky to land

Dclaw with kinetic deflection is hilarious. You can parry everything to death with minimal peril cost

Ds4 is good for stabbing things in the face and not much else

Knife works ok to good on gunker, there’s an art to it though and I don’t have it.

Deimos is glowy discount ds4 with the ability to stop bullets

Illsi is a horde clear weapon with a meme flame alt build.

Chainsword is good but nothing special, just feels like a worse version of other options.

Chainaxe is outshone by ds4/deimos at the can opener job

Can’t remember the rest

[zinc phoenix]

I see I converted you 😂

[waxen jackal]

Crusher fucks. The whole build.

[nocturne dust]

[stuck bridge]

your link isnt working

[nocturne dust]

Indeed.

[languid dragon]

oh realy? ok ill send screenshots instead

Is this any good? I'm new and having a cook.

[waxen jackal]

I don't like needing ammo

[nocturne dust]

Use revolver

[split lance]

This death is getting to me

[lethal lagoon]

I've learned I shouldn't give you advice

I literally said "Dont stand in the front" right before this

And the moment you listen to my dumbASS you get backshoted all over your ASS(auric storm survivor)

I think that actually happened a few times before you died

[nocturne dust]

I did have the thought at the time that he should be in the middle, but not sure if that would've saved him

[lethal lagoon]

he was killed by a bruiser dropping from the ceiling

[nocturne dust]

Dropbears are a terrifying enemy

[split lance]

I think so

[lethal lagoon]

Hab Dreyko

I think I said to run when the plague ogryn came

And then we all got stuck down there

Come to think of it, I killed everyone that time except myself

[split lance]

What about when I got pushed by a chaos spawn a mile ahead of the team

[lethal lagoon]

I think I was the one who lead us to drop down early, while you were hanging up top

And then you rushed down because I told you to

And then we lost

[split lance]

I tried running back to the bridge but chaos spawn didn’t let me do shut

Shit

[lethal lagoon]

Two elevators deaths is just hilarious though

[atomic swan]

do 1v1 him

[lethal lagoon]

That little bruiser, literally no other enemy alive, hitting you in the back

[nocturne dust]

he doesn't take kinetic deflection, the heretic

[split lance]

You surging it literally .2 sec too late

[lethal lagoon]

Or perhaps I surged it exactly when I meant to

[waxen jackal]

I gotta get something besides this auto shredder. I hate it

[lethal lagoon]

Oh yeah I tried to clip the video from my perspective

[nocturne dust]

wait, you use warp flurry?

[lethal lagoon]

But I ended up laughing a bunch and then got distracted

[atomic swan]

dont tank his full combo its should be fine
unless you are using Taxe

[split lance]

Lmao

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah. So the longer cast time could have done the damage

[nocturne dust]

Did the bug kill him?

[split lance]

I couldn’t even be upset at any of my deaths bc they were all insanely comical

Like the 1min DH

[atomic swan]

joke aside you should look for a way to go around
use anything, blocking LOS or elevations to kite/lose him

[steel flame]

whooo finally home, time for some bolter psyker

[lethal lagoon]

You getting us killed in the elevator is like that one friend in the group who always takes the joke too far.

[split lance]

It was a group effort

I’ll take 40% of the blame

No more than that

[lethal lagoon]

Fair.

I'll take 30%, and they can split the other 30.

[waxen jackal]

Mobility the dump for revolver?

[lethal lagoon]

ye

[nocturne dust]

ye

[lethal lagoon]

[nocturne dust]

[lethal lagoon]

Stealing my words like I stole all your damage

[split lance]

All our damage

[nocturne dust]

I was about to make a socialist joke but tren stole it 😭

Filthy thieving hobbitses

[split lance]

I was tryna make a communist joke

But couldn’t think of one

[nocturne dust]

I was trying to connect it to communal property, I was getting there, I just needed a bit more time 😔

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah, I borrowed the fire you were using to cook that joke with.

"borrowed"

[nocturne dust]

This is why I play voidstrike

[lethal lagoon]

[nocturne dust]

no fire, nothing to steal

[split lance]

How about you borrow some bitches

[lethal lagoon]

Ew?

[split lance]

[lethal lagoon]

But don't worry Tren, I have a special chair reserved for you anyways

[split lance]

Oh ?

[lethal lagoon]

[split lance]

What kinda chair

Is it comfy

[lethal lagoon]

Leather and expensive. But it's mostly a set piece.

So not very comfertable.

[split lance]

Oh

It better be cold

If it’s not

I’m going to be DRIPPING in sweat

[lethal lagoon]

It will be, quite cold, almost shocking. But it will quickly become uncomfertably warm.

[split lance]

Hmmm

Uncomfortably

[lethal lagoon]

[split lance]

Is how you spell it

[lethal lagoon]

Literally go fuck yourself

[split lance]

I saw the edit

And it was still wrong

[nocturne dust]

[lethal lagoon]

I have a condition.

It's called being me.

[split lance]

It’s called “giving tren advice and then getting him killed”

[lethal lagoon]

It really is

[waxen jackal]

For revolver should I do carapace/unyielding

[lethal lagoon]

You should do whatever you want because you are already perfect

[waxen jackal]

Aww

[split lance]

HE WAS TALKING TO ME

[lethal lagoon]

[waxen jackal]

Don't take this from me

Lol

[split lance]

Ur perfect and I love you

[nocturne dust]

flak & maniac iirc

[lethal lagoon]

Which revolver? and what kind of build?

[nocturne dust]

zarona, on a martyr zealot

[waxen jackal]

So flak and maniac on both the crusher and revolver?

[delicate ether]

crit building is scriers gaze the best route to go down?

[split lance]

If I do this. I may still die

[split lance]

Yes

Well

What gun

Or staff

[lethal lagoon]

I mean if you think about it, I took you down from at least 1 death a game, to like .5 deaths a game.

[delicate ether]

voidstrike force

[split lance]

You accidentally put a “.”

[split lance]

Ye sg then

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah, I guess I did

[nocturne dust]

I think? I mean, it's a matter of preference for the zarona, it just kills things. You could put carapace and unyielding on it if you like, it's just a really strong gun for high value targets. Will probably kill most specials/elites regardless. I forget the specific breakpoints.

The blessing for zarona are hand cannon and surgical tho, that I know

[waxen jackal]

I appreciate the help. I didn't even realize there was another mk lol

[split lance]

Tbh

@lethal lagoon what if we go for 10 auric missions

The the maels later

[lethal lagoon]

Do you really think that will be easier?

Most of the maels we played today were kinda snoozy

[split lance]

No no. Just faster

[lethal lagoon]

Aurics are pretty consistent though

[split lance]

Bro fr

Why were so many so dead

[lethal lagoon]

Like you

[nocturne dust]

I mean, I do want to note that the build's weakness is indeed bosses. You can stun everything else with the crusher and just clobber things to death by spamming special -> h1 (though you do more damage by not using the special and the optimal combo, which you don't need to use and I never did, is l1 -> h2 for horde and h1 -> l2 for single targets unless I'm mixing them up and it's the opposite. I just spammed lights for horde and heavies for singles).

[lethal lagoon]

No but really, what was going on

[split lance]

https://tenor.com/view/got-em-lmao-mind-blown-squad-gif-17265113

[lethal lagoon]

We had maybe 1 that actually went crazy'

[split lance]

How bro feels rn

[lethal lagoon]

I mean yeah, that smile is pretty close

[potent echo]

You guys were too good

[lethal lagoon]

I'm willing to do auric exemplar with you

BUT

we have to do only auric train

[split lance]

Your not down

I’ll run it

[lethal lagoon]

I mean we'll probably need 4 people, cause I"ll need to save the train mission and it'll stop queueing eventually

Let's see if there's a train up now, we can do a test drive

[split lance]

I’m not on

In 15 I will be

[lethal lagoon]

Maybe a train will be up when you come back in 30 minutes

[waxen jackal]

Then ill prolly avoid unyielding. Might do carapace, flak or something idk.

I was just wondering about the combos too

[split lance]

Make it 45

[lethal lagoon]

There's no train anyways

Ima head to bed

[tawny pebble]

☮️

[primal plume]

Debuffs apply to bosses as well, right?

[strong gulch]

yes

[primal plume]

nice

[feral knoll]

“Nooooo. You’re a space wizard! Why aren’t you using a magic staff? Like a wizard or a mage would?”

Me: “Hehe. Laser gun go pew”

[languid dragon]

Whats a good way to get diamantine?

[analog agate]

Play damnation. Get orange items and salvage them.

[languid dragon]

im new lol only just started being able to clear diff 3

[sturdy tendon]

Damnation also has the most mats available in the first place

Not much else to it, just scrounge the map as much as you can

[waxen jackal]

My group was 4 Xbox players including me. That was more difficult than normal lol

[sturdy tendon]

And when you feel comfy with Malice just plunge deeper into the difficulty

Tbh the jump from Malice to Heresy is much harsher than the jump in difficulty from heresy to damnation

So there's that

[waxen jackal]

Cuz heresy can be on some BS sometimes

[nocturne dust]

it's mainly because heresy players are worse than damnation players

[waxen jackal]

But for some reason I can't do damnation. But I can do heresy all day. I don't get it.

[strong gulch]

but also regular T4 can just toss 20 ragers at you for no reason

[nocturne dust]

whereas you get players who can readily run aurics running damnation

[sturdy tendon]

Ah the fabled rager congas

[sturdy tendon]

Yeah, sometimes I drop down to regular damnation after running exclusively Aurics

[waxen jackal]

What's really funny is malestrom when there are like 11 mutants screaming at the same time

[sturdy tendon]

I should start playing Maelstorms

[nocturne dust]

Only 11?

[limpid lily]

why aint nobody using gigachad gunpsyker anymore :/

[nocturne dust]

Rookie numbers, gotta pump those numbers up

[nocturne dust]

Because the true gigachad was the staff psykers all along

[strong gulch]

Got a buddy who doesn't play this game much; so we'd to T4s with him. I swear the game knew to start acting up. Always had to cursed T4s when he played.

[nocturne dust]

game has a monthly quota for players

if you don't log in, it decided to spawn everything it can in your next mission

/s

[limpid lily]

macro-bind ball spam that blot out game's sounds? EHHHHH

[nocturne dust]

Bro thinks staff psykers use lmb spam

[limpid lily]

lol no xD

but still

[waxen jackal]

Sorry to bug you about the crusher build again, but you said skull crusher/ either slaughterer, thunderous, or thunder strike right?

[limpid lily]

I swear man, whenever I see ball-spam psykers that creat a line of balls that look like BEAM STAFF, it's always a bit rough

[sturdy tendon]

Because I haven't gotten to crafting guns for my Psyker yet and I am currently prioritizing Vet and Zealot for new weapons

[nocturne dust]

thunderous or slaughterer for the 2nd, thunder strike is useless because impact is stagger and the crusher already staggers everything

[waxen jackal]

Cool, I'm gonna go thunderous. I got the thunder names confused lol

[nocturne dust]

Slaughterer is more general/horde clear, thunderous will kill crushers/bosses better

[split lance]

@lethal lagoon

Hi

Sorry

[waxen jackal]

I'm hoping I can find some wound curios here soon. Of course sire melks inventory has different curios on psyker and zealot

[broken carbon]

don’t use thunderous

[split lance]

theres a lot going on at home

sorry

goodnight fren

[broken carbon]

take skullcrusher with either slaughterer or trauma/hammerblow.

Best is slaughterer and skullcrusher, but an impact blessing can be fun and help you get more value from skullcrusher

[strong gulch]

Take care. Hope you can manage whatever is happening.

[split lance]

ita a lot haha

[broken carbon]

thunderous seems good on paper, but in reality it’s not needed, when the crusher can do this

[split lance]

get on tho 😈

[broken carbon]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iOYRSUkPOq4HQjcXx?invite=cr-MSx6ak8sMjA0ODY2MDQ3LA

[sturdy tendon]

Can just spam the 250 Melk bucks curio button if you are really starved for them

But tbh beyond Zealot wound curios are a crutch

[lethal lagoon]

Yee I gotcha bro. I take care of my pops, so I know how 2 minutes turns into 2 hours.

[split lance]

yeah bro, taking care of my gramps and so had to take him to Dr

well i didnt take him but i had to get him outside and such

[lethal lagoon]

(Hardest part)

[split lance]

lmao fr

[lethal lagoon]

[split lance]

gotta setup the ramp, then gotta take him through the front then through some uneven grass and basically curl the chair at one point so he doesnt tip over before gettting to the driveway

lol

im going to say thats why my right arm is half an inch bigger than my right

[plucky flax]

L move

[lethal lagoon]

[split lance]

WAIT YA GOTTA SEE THE NEW ONE

[lethal lagoon]

Tried to copy the cool kids

[split lance]

#psyker-class message

thoughts on this one

[plucky flax]

Ass player certified

[split lance]

if only you could hear vc atlas had just finished saying "tren maybe you shouldnt be in the front"

[lethal lagoon]

How could I have known you were the backshot king

[split lance]

if only i didnt listen

[split lance]

my erectors are massive for a reason

[lethal lagoon]

Your homoerectors?

[split lance]

no

just

[lethal lagoon]

[split lance]

spinal

[lethal lagoon]

I thought you meant your ancenstors, the Homo erectus, were large and that's why you are large

[split lance]

oh

[lethal lagoon]

[split lance]

well

[lethal lagoon]

[split lance]

im quite large compared to everyone in my family

pretty much

even the large people i make look smol

[lethal lagoon]

How much of your average family member in weight do you consume in a year?

[split lance]

can you rephrase that

[lethal lagoon]

No.

[split lance]

ok

i eat 2lbs of chicken daily

so whatever that equates too

[sturdy tendon]

Man for some reason the messiest extraction I ever had was there and not Hab Dreyko

[lethal lagoon]

That end event can be brutal

The multi level stuff

And then the bridge spawning specials while you are chased

[split lance]

i hate that end event

[sturdy tendon]

I had a solo extraction there recently

[split lance]

yopu dont have to get on

but

vc

?

[sturdy tendon]

The Hab Dreyko extraction is fun though

Although the ramp part with the bridge is really dangerous

[lethal lagoon]

That's actually more work my room is a mess so it's really hard to plug in my mic

I really need to go bed though, I keep going on like 4-5 hours sleep

[sturdy tendon]

Sleep is important man, had a period of time that due to a virus my deep sleep got fucked up

[lethal lagoon]

@split lance

[sturdy tendon]

My knee issues returned with a Vengeance

Haven't gotten back to going to the gym yet

[lethal lagoon]

Collagen

I just put mine in my coffee

[split lance]

why is there no sound

also

[lethal lagoon]

I wanted a small file size

[split lance]

it literally looks like ur character is laughing at me

[lethal lagoon]

TBF, that is what is happening

I can grab one with sound, but not now.

[lethal lagoon]

I already closed it

[split lance]

shoulda kept the part in where you 180 to look at extraction so can see how close we were

[lethal lagoon]

I was gonna make a gif

[nocturne dust]

lmao, I like my surprised cameo

[lethal lagoon]

That's why I made it so short

[lethal lagoon]

I cut it right after you left the screen

on purpose

"what happened? oh he's dead"

[split lance]

literally looks like an oblivion npc

mfer ran away from his shop. saw nothing of interest and ran abck

[waxen jackal]

Sorry, I was mid match. Thanks for the tips

[split lance]

abck

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/oblivion-gif-18732240

[split lance]

literally what happened

[lethal lagoon]

Void you have an acute case of NPCness.

I'm afraid there's no cure

[nocturne dust]

Oh no, that sounds awful.

Anyway, you looking to buy, or sell?

[split lance]

what ya selling

[nocturne dust]

Warp explosions for the low low price of 100% peril and a boop

[split lance]

hmmmm

whats the boop come from

[nocturne dust]

anything that generates peril

[waxen jackal]

I spent 200k trying to get the right dump on the the revolver. I love gambling

[split lance]

ill drop a mil on an outfit if that makes you feel better

[sturdy tendon]

It's a great gun

Should make a revolver for my Psyker

[waxen jackal]

I got a 61% on mobility. That'll have to do for now.

Wait for the event, do I personally have to get 30 scriptures? Not the team?

[sturdy tendon]

Team

[split lance]

anyone

[sturdy tendon]

Just make sure it's the infected Moebian 21st

Otherwise it doesn't count

[waxen jackal]

Ohh

[sturdy tendon]

Tbh the infected Moebian 21st are one of the harder mods out there if you don't have a good CC/horde clearer melee

[broken carbon]

yeah of course

if u need a good crusher build i can send one

[primal radish]

run n gun doesnt reduce the spread for purg staff right?...

[potent echo]

Wait huh I didn't know this had to be

[cosmic sparrow]

ok after playing with my friend's psyker for 30 levels

[waxen jackal]

Someone already sent me one. Can I send it to you? See what you think also?

[cosmic sparrow]

there's no way psyker isnt a support class

[elder glade]

[nocturne dust]

bait

[sturdy tendon]

As much as chorus Zealot is a support class

[nocturne dust]

They'll say it's bad

[cosmic sparrow]

no like im deadass

all of psyker's best things are like

shields

smite

[elder glade]

The very moment you said smite

[cosmic sparrow]

mass stunning is so goated

whatever ability that is

[waxen jackal]

Its worked pretty good for me lol. Haven't died at all, went down once. Running heresy with 350 weapons

[nocturne dust]

I'm surprised you went down at all in heresy

[cosmic sparrow]

like im not trolling 😭

i s2g

[waxen jackal]

Can only pull so much weight lol

[nocturne dust]

but the point of that build is staying alive, not doing damage

[waxen jackal]

At least in that match

[elder glade]

That's the equivalent of saying that just because veteran has shout they are a support class

[nocturne dust]

It's a bad build for expert players because staying alive isn't that huge of a concern

[foggy prism]

knife pysker fun

stab

[waxen jackal]

And I don't have my curios yet

[cosmic sparrow]

i feel like if you spec into gun psyker with the self buff skill

[nocturne dust]

Ah, those are important, lol

[unique mist]

what is the meta place on each of the blaze force sword marks? have been using the ilissi for ages

[cosmic sparrow]

gunker's just worse vet

[nocturne dust]

Illisi is hordes, Deimos is single targets, obscurus sucks

[sturdy tendon]

Illisi for horde, Deimos for single target

[waxen jackal]

I have some curios. But not wound ones. So I'm working with 4 wounds

[elder glade]

Higher Crit and higher DPS along with the ability to ignore ranged damage completely. Only issue would be carapace.

[sturdy tendon]

4 wounds is 2 too many

[nocturne dust]

Hm, well the curios do make it better, not just because of martyrdom.

[nocturne dust]

martyr zealot

[unique mist]

"obscurus sucks"

[nocturne dust]

is what we're talking about

[sturdy tendon]

Oh

[waxen jackal]

Ya. My psyker has 2

[sturdy tendon]

I have wound curios from when I leveled Zealot

Decided to do a Martyr build since it doesn't matter what level the curio is

Now I have all the decent curios

[unique mist]

is curio stacking additive or multiplicative? what about curio sub-perks?

[waxen jackal]

I always seem to find them on my psyker. Like all the time. But not one yet on zealot

[nocturne dust]

like Bleed for the Emperor works off wounds, so the more wounds you have the better it is. In addition, if you get enough wounds then Holy revenant will heal enough for you to enter your 2nd wound, meaning you can always proc Bleed for the Emperor even after utilizing Until Death

[foggy prism]

which blessing would be good for the catachan mkIII

[nocturne dust]

Diminishingly multiplicative

[nocturne dust]

It does

[waxen jackal]

I'm still managing. But yeah it's not as strong as it should be yet.

[unique mist]

i wasn't saying it doesn't, it was just funny

[nocturne dust]

Souka

[sturdy tendon]

Just spam Melk

[waxen jackal]

At surviving anyway. The damage isn't awful either

[nocturne dust]

The damage on the build is decent but nothing compared to what Zealot can dish out at full capacity

because the crusher is the crusher, the build works

[sturdy tendon]

I usually run Thammer Martyr

[waxen jackal]

Maybe I can hybridize it. Good survivability and good damage

[nocturne dust]

I haven't bothered with trying thammer after its buff

too busy playing psyker

[sturdy tendon]

Always a great time seeing a monstrosity gone in a blink of an eye

[waxen jackal]

I do miss playing psyker

[restive slate]

Is it bad that I've never ran Martyrdom build since the game released?

[nocturne dust]

I mean you can try but it already grabs some good damage nodes on the way like Duellist

[sturdy tendon]

Shame that's it's bugged but oh well

[restive slate]

No looking at your hands anymore

[restive slate]

It's bugged?

[sturdy tendon]

Martyrdom is a very comfy build

[sturdy tendon]

Defense is not 60%/61%

[upper galleon]

Yes, you have to turn in your zealot card

[upper galleon]

Every other stat got rounded up or something

That’s wack

[nocturne dust]

I have an eviscerator with its dump at 55% while maxed

[restive slate]

Wait let me test my new build 1st, gunner zealot

[sturdy tendon]

Oh yeah new slop rotation today

Oh no, tomorrow actually

[nocturne dust]

oh, and to note, that healing for full wound combo means you kinda don't want health on curio substats despite having a ton of health damage reduction

[waxen jackal]

What perks should I put on the curios?

Toughness and regen?

[nocturne dust]

still largely preference. I would use toughness, regen, and either gunner or sniper resist

[broken carbon]

sure

[nocturne dust]

Lacking toughness curios does make dealing with ranged a bit more spicy if you're not prepared for slide spam

[broken carbon]

you want at least 2x gunner resist, and after that i usually take 3x toughness and 3x health

toughness regen is not good though

toughness regen only applies to coherency regen, which is disable when in melee combat

[sturdy tendon]

Toughness regen is purely coherency toughness

It's trash

[nocturne dust]

Health messes with the build

[broken carbon]

which is when you want toughness, so it’s worthless

how

[nocturne dust]

Bleed for the Emperor + Holy Revenant filling a wound and more

[broken carbon]

that’s fine?

[sturdy tendon]

You would have more HP per wound

[broken carbon]

yeah

proportionally it’s still the same

it wouldn’t affect anything

[nocturne dust]

Holy Revenant heals a percentage of max health?

[broken carbon]

yes

it’s 25% of your health

[nocturne dust]

🤔 Hm, didn't know

[broken carbon]

not 25 health

my builds regen up to 59 health most of the time

[nocturne dust]

Shows how much I play anything other than psyker

[broken carbon]

why r u giving zealot build advice then !!!

i stopped giving psyker build advice with the rework

because i do not care to learn the new tree right now

[nocturne dust]

I mentioned it in passing as an unkillable build and they were curious

[broken carbon]

ah

[sturdy tendon]

Tbh sometimes you get too low and then a Pox walker can tickle your balls and you die

[waxen jackal]

Dm'ed you

[sturdy tendon]

But otherwise it's a very tanky build

[waxen jackal]

I can put it on here if you rather

[sturdy tendon]

But given that this is Psyker chat, I assume we're all used to dying by getting tickled by Pox walkers

[restive slate]

Shooters for me

[split lance]

this pub was not it

lol

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, that does look like the normal build

[broken carbon]

good balance can be dropped for desperation, the push attack on the crusher is very good

[restive slate]

What ranged?

[broken carbon]

whatever you want, i take bolter but you can take really whatever

crusher can do everything

so it’s very up to choice

[restive slate]

Also I like how throwing knives allow for so many different ranged weapon choices

[sturdy tendon]

Bolt pistol or revolver, which do you guys prefer?

[nocturne dust]

I honestly hate throwing knives

[broken carbon]

grenades r useless compared to knives imo

[sturdy tendon]

Tbh both have their merits

[restive slate]

What do you think of the new blessings, such as rending on staggered?

[sturdy tendon]

Tbh grenades on Zealot are something I am usually so conservative with due to not having any grenade regen like on Vet

So yeah I can see knives being overall better

But the flame patch is invaluable on some builds

[plucky flax]

Bistol

[broken carbon]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iOYRSUkPOq4HQjcXx?invite=cr-MSx6ak8sMjA0ODY2MDQ3LA

not needed

slaughterer is BiS now

[restive slate]

Same, like potions in any fantasy setting. Never used up till even the final boss

[split lance]

i wanna try it

i dont wanna level it

[sturdy tendon]

I still like the Revolver, the punch through and rending makes it deal with some issues very handily

[plucky flax]

I can hop on and play it for you to see.

[split lance]

e?

me?

[plucky flax]

Yeah they are both good.

Bistol is just COOLER

[sturdy tendon]

Bistol is very solid, I recommend

[plucky flax]

The cyberpunk reload is too swag.

[nocturne dust]

I feel like that's completely unfair to flame grenades

[restive slate]

For Revolver, what better to pair with Rending Shot?

Surgical or Crucian?

[sturdy tendon]

Flame grenades are one of the best tools to deal with hunting grounds

[sturdy tendon]

I run surgical

[plucky flax]

Surgical yep yep.

[broken carbon]

any weapon can deal with hunting grounds lol

just need to have decent positioning

(find a choke point)

[broken carbon]

surgical

[restive slate]

Wow very unanimous, thanks for answer

[sturdy tendon]

Sometimes you just get caught in the open

[broken carbon]

dodge and push

[waxen jackal]

Thank you, sorry I try to multitask when I'm playing. Sometimes it's easier than others lol

[broken carbon]

all good

[radiant lance]

Perks on Electro staff?

[desert yoke]

Really? I’ve seen dogs be completely fine in fire

[broken carbon]

did you see the clip i posted

[desert yoke]

Well, ‘completely’ is a stretch

[waxen jackal]

Looking right now

[sturdy tendon]

Warp Nexus + Surge/Warp Flurry

Depending on what you want to spam

[broken carbon]

also id check out josho’s crusher guide, its out of date regarding blessings, but its accurate for combos and such, its pinned in #zealot-class

[sturdy tendon]

Oh perks

[waxen jackal]

That's kinda insane lol

[sturdy tendon]

Not blessings

I run Flak + Maniac

[restive slate]

Sometimes I play low difficulties with a pop out youtube video just to farm

[sturdy tendon]

But Flak + Elite is also good

[radiant lance]

Cool, thanks 🙂

[broken carbon]

push attack does more damage to carapace than h1 in all situations except with chastise

the crusher has a lot of very unique properties

that makes it very fun to learn and use

[restive slate]

If only the Power Maul was as good as Crusher

[sturdy tendon]

How's the crusher at dealing with crushers?

[split lance]

it really does look solid

[nocturne dust]

I just spam lights for groups and heavies for singles and that works at auric

[broken carbon]

look at the clip i posted

[desert yoke]

It crushes them

[split lance]

ive never gunker before

[restive slate]

It crushes

[nocturne dust]

crusher stronk

[waxen jackal]

I'm gonna have 2 loadout, one yours, and one dead void and see what's up with them. Since it's essentially the same weapons and everything.

[split lance]

i have no guns leveled lol

[radiant frigate]

if only we had info on that in the attack breakdown

[broken carbon]

you can one shot crushers with chastise h1 (with a couple buffs), push attack is amazing against carapace, stagger with empowered attacks

overall very good

[plucky flax]

Did you get ASS?

[nocturne dust]

I mean, the entire purpose of my build wasn't to be meta or devastating, it was to stay alive. It was like training wheels for auric.

[broken carbon]

against everything

[sturdy tendon]

Tbh I am used to being able to one shot crushers with Thammer

[waxen jackal]

Yeah I like staying alive lol

[sturdy tendon]

But the ttk of Thammer on crushers is pretty meh

[broken carbon]

it works but not well, you wouldn’t be dealing much damage and you’d be taking a good chunk of it too

[nocturne dust]

Me too, but now I can do it without Zealot's unholy survivability

[broken carbon]

huh

[sturdy tendon]

More of dealing with crusher packs then singular ones

[nocturne dust]

Disagree, you definitely deal 'enough' with the crusher to make it work

[sturdy tendon]

When compared to DS

[split lance]

ASS as in ASSaulted? yes! the penance? no

[waxen jackal]

I've never used throwing knives tho

[plucky flax]

Why so bad?

[broken carbon]

ok let’s be real here who’s the zealot main and who’s the psyker main

[split lance]

both videos i showed you were on mael runs

[sturdy tendon]

The activation feels like it takes ages

[split lance]

lmao

[broken carbon]

they’re very fun, and imo the best part of playing zealot

[restive slate]

Takes a bit of getting used to but they one hit a lot of the dangerous enemies

[nocturne dust]

As someone not in tune with zealot, my statement stands as a point for the filthy casuals.

[plucky flax]

Just don't die it's not hard.

[split lance]

omg you wanna see what happened first mael after the one we played earlier

not a joke, 1min into the mael

[broken carbon]

they’ll one shot every specialist except mutants, and gunners. They can reach a rager one shot with a couple buffs up

[nocturne dust]

they only one shot if you hit the weakspot tho

[split lance]

i left for comical reasons

not bc im cheating

[waxen jackal]

Are you aiming them like a gun?

[radiant frigate]

wtf fake kat

[broken carbon]

i recommend builds that are conducive to players learning zealot

[broken carbon]

wdym? they are 100% accurate but have projectile drop

[nocturne dust]

Guess I'll never learn

[broken carbon]

they throw instantly, you don’t equip them

[radiant frigate]

which is a bit jarring

[broken carbon]

also the projectile drop isn’t notable until about

25ish meters

20-25 meters is when the projectile drop becomes particularly noticeable

[waxen jackal]

Imma go test them out. Idk how to say what I'm trying to say

[broken carbon]

but you won’t be using them that far except snipers

[nocturne dust]

they also have like a bit of magnetism, no?

[broken carbon]

yes

they either have big hit boxes or head magnetism

idk which

but even aiming a couple inches to the side of a trapper’s head will hit the trapper

and they’ll cleave a chaff enemy

[restive cave]

How exactly does blaze away work on the inferno force staff? What counts as its magazine?

[nocturne dust]

the rmb charge

blaze away stronk

[restive cave]

Guide says warp flurry/warp nexus A tier, then focused channeling B. I'm guessing blaze away was one of the new ones added?

[nocturne dust]

yes, blaze away is new

[sturdy tendon]

Yes

[nocturne dust]

and S tier

[restive cave]

sweet

[sturdy tendon]

And Flurry is pretty meh on Purgatus

[restive cave]

Leveling it now and rolled level 3 blaze away yeeet

[waxen jackal]

Oof. Yeah the knives are tough on controller. Cuz down on the d pad is the special. Imma try it out tho

[spice veldt]

evidently the solution is to buy a foot pedal

[nocturne dust]

I can't believe people actually play on console

[waxen jackal]

I have no choice

[nocturne dust]

mods my beloved

[plucky flax]

Take blaze away nexus.

[sturdy tendon]

Crosshairs on ads is something I just can't to without

The insistence on crappy iron sights on a lot of weapons is so annoying

[plucky flax]

OOoh melee scab only.

[restive slate]

Which is your favourite?

[plucky flax]

Do I want to ruin it for people with blaze trauma?

[strong gulch]

works by chaining or spamming lmb
also works on rmb and you don't even have to cast that long to get all of the stacks

[nocturne dust]

You want me to pick just one?

[round charm]

whats the most optimal time/way to use assail?

[restive slate]

Remember to aim in front of the enemies, gotta push them away from our allies

[strong gulch]

I kinda feel you. Mine is on middle mouse scroll down

[restive slate]

Omg same, feels most reliable

[nocturne dust]

Hhhhhmmmm, probably player outlines. Only way I can distinguish ogryns

[desert yoke]

ALL the time

[restive slate]

T-two??

[plucky flax]

Yes.

Will do thanks for tip

[sturdy tendon]

Thinking that the friendly ogryn is a bulwark or vice versa

[waxen jackal]

Really the only mod im really jealous of is moving your buffs to the middle of the screen

[sturdy tendon]

A classic

[restive cave]

That's what I'm running right now, it's kinda.. ridiculous in damage lol

[nocturne dust]

keep swinging and player outlines

one for my fingies, one for my eyes

[restive slate]

Yea keep those eye muscles at neutral

[waxen jackal]

It would help with SG so much

[nocturne dust]

There's also the warp unbound timer mod

which I use over the buff bar nonsense

[broken carbon]

health bars, crit chance, numericUI, psych ward, powerDI and/or scoreboard

in no particular order

[gusty canopy]

Q: is all the mastery spread across all the classes or…?

[nocturne dust]

powerDI scares me

[restive slate]

I'm not sure how you work out the combos with Keep Swinging

I get it for the shooting one as it improves Headhunter experience

[nocturne dust]

You guys are using combos?

[restive slate]

Crit chance?

[broken carbon]

it’s great for wondering how the fuck someone managed to take 3k damage

and then seeing that they dodged like 200 times total

[broken carbon]

mod that shows your crit chance

[restive cave]

How do you like powerDI vs. scoreboard?

[desert yoke]

Lol true

[sturdy tendon]

It's universal

[waxen jackal]

Yeah that's really the only buff I really need to see

[restive slate]

Ooooh I want it

[broken carbon]

i have both, scoreboard is nice for a quick general view, powerDI for seeing more precise breakdowns

[broken carbon]

it’s called show crit chance or something like it

it’s good for crit builds

so u can see how much value ur actually getting out of it

[gusty canopy]

Ok so if i max out the mastery on the bolt pistol on my psyker, my Veteran could have the bolt pistol maxed out mastery?

[broken carbon]

yes

[sturdy tendon]

Yes

[broken carbon]

mastery is universal to all classes

[gusty canopy]

Bitchin! Thanks~

[sturdy tendon]

But maxing out power is expensive anyhow

[restive slate]

Me and my heavy, light, light, heavy chainsword combo in the middle of the horde stumbling

[gusty canopy]

Also got all the penances of my psyker finished~

[broken carbon]

pawesome

[nocturne dust]

Like, there's a strong reason I prefer weapons that use lights and heavies for different things. I have a hard time mixing and matching, but I make it work even on auric

[sturdy tendon]

I like heavies for horde clear

Easier on the fingers

[waxen jackal]

What curios would you recommend for this build?

[sturdy tendon]

Probably why I find Thammer so comfy

[desert yoke]

What do you mean you shouldn’t heavy attack only?!?!

[nocturne dust]

I like lights for horde clear so I don't have to push.... or at least did until that no longer worked

[restive slate]

It's why the new Eviscerator feels so much better

[sturdy tendon]

Heavies for both single target and horde clear

[broken carbon]

i run 3 toughness, with 3x toughness, 3x hp, and 2x gunner resist

final slot is whatever u want

[waxen jackal]

Prolly sniper for me

[desert yoke]

Me after I’m on my 50th light attack and the single poxwalker still isn’t dead

[broken carbon]

worst opinion ever, mk15 is so boring, mk3 is peak

[restive slate]

You right, never thought of it that way. Only difference is charge special

Anyone use Ironhelm Thammer anymore?