psyker-class

[rancid geyser]

i can actually copy pasta

[lament moss]

Which not only has all of the block cost reduction, but also all of the stamina, for the sake of reducing the block cost further via scaling abuse. I also threw in 20% resistance to Snipers and 20% resistance to Gunners to truly earn my place on the jedi council

[rancid geyser]

that was after the whole mention on returns -- regardless, stating the diminishing returns thing is mad arbitrary, fair point however

[lament moss]

Thing is that sometimes people just do things without caring about diminishing returns

[mossy oyster]

I’d win

[rancid geyser]

yeah you only care when min maxing

[mossy oyster]

Min maxing is fun

get over it

[lament moss]

Like, I main Veteran, and my thing there is:

• Maximizing my toughness capacity,
• Maximizing my toughness damage resistance,
• Maximizing my toughness regeneration,
• Maximizing how much toughness I give to my homies

God knows I didn't consider DR whilst doing it but it works in Auric to an overkill degree

[wind spruce]

fyi this is why i run infernus. burn actually out dps'd ranged damage this mission lel (yes, i cherrypicked the example, its usually more like 25% of your combined range/burn damage but thats WITH assail adding to ranged)

[rancid geyser]

i main vet, and tbh i dont give a damn about toughness because iron will makes any amount broken

[wind spruce]

also how do i stop print screen doing both my screens 😦

[rancid geyser]

only thing i cared is if i could break the 3600 dps check to 1 shots a crusher in .5 seconds

[lament moss]

I agree, but I looked at that, and applied the MORE meme from the Star Wars sequels

[brisk vine]

How do I make a psyker that doesn't crumble to dust in melee? taking any kinda hit feels ungodly punishing no matter what build I cook up.

[wind spruce]

you pretty much cant

your only options are one with the warp and endurance

and shitloads of toughness regen

[lament moss]

Take a look at the build I just rolled, or consider getting yourself a Veteran Squad Leader friend and an Ogryn Tank friend

[brisk vine]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-rat-crying-rat-profound-sadness-fototeta-gif-27638214

[rancid geyser]

if mettel wasnt so weird id say that would be your way out

but atm sometimes it puts my toughness from 0-100

other times i get like 50

[eternal junco]

ngl best bet is to take a cc blitz/staff and use dueling sword or warpsword to pick off priority targets

psyker just doesn't have much in terms of anti-horde melee

[rancid geyser]

best melee is inferno staff

i die on this hill hehe

[brisk vine]

the damage I seem to put ou is fine, its just impossible for me to regulate my toughness because there's no melees that meaningfully interact with peril

illisi has helped, but even with a min roll warp resist I don't generate enough to keep myself alive

[rancid geyser]

im bad but even fire staff keeps me topped off

[wind spruce]

here's a better example 297k ranged + 180k burn, so burn is 37% of my damage, but assail is adding to the ranged damage

[eternal junco]

maybe try playing hit and run style where you fuck shit up until your toughness drops, then back off to generate and dump peril to restore toughness

[rancid geyser]

illisi with deflector, kinetic deflection and warp expenditure is a valid way to be tanky imo

i have clutched my ass off in auric with it

but that means your melee weapon is kinda ass

dunno if you'd be okay with that XD

[versed pagoda]

what mod gives you that information?

[wind spruce]

are you running scriers? i gen a lot of toughness in melee with duelling sword/knife high crit rates (with blessings/inate quality) through mettle and peril reduction from crack of bone helping the quietude engine

[wind spruce]

ovenproofs scoreboard extension

[wind spruce]

illisi is ass SQUAD

[rancid geyser]

no

i didnt say that

[wind spruce]

BOOOOO

[rancid geyser]

lmao

[wind spruce]

hahaha

[rancid geyser]

i just meant if they want to go the deflector route its not the greatest melee

but its fun having a PSG on the go

[wind spruce]

imagine building for fun

SMDH head

[rancid geyser]

PSG or nothin!

[wind spruce]

did you watch my 11 stam video?

[rancid geyser]

also i build to win, fun is a bonus, but winning is fun so idk

[wind spruce]

my kinda guy

[rancid geyser]

can you reply to the 11 stam clip?

[brisk vine]

I run scriers and have been rocking dueling sword with ripost/uncanny and have been jumping between the swords trying to get something to work

while the ults up things are fine, but getting hit in melee is still unreasonably punishing thanks to the stagger

[mossy oyster]

no more endurance scriers

[brisk vine]

like a bruiser will donk me from behind and suddenly I'm on the floor

[mossy oyster]

lets see how bad I die

[wind spruce]

thats a great build

are you running kinetic deflection @brisk vine

[brisk vine]

indeed my good sir

3 stam relic too

[wind spruce]

gotta keep itterating

[brisk vine]

but blocking doesn't kill the horde in front of me

or do anything about the gunners just out of reach

[wind spruce]

just gotta keep practicing ya dodges then g

[rancid geyser]

bruh XD

aint no need to be that damn tanky lmao

[mossy oyster]

gone for the full dmg

[lyric burrow]

yeah dodges is like 90% of your active defense in this gmae

[brisk vine]

I can clutch an auric blind folded as Zealot and Vet, but this character I just can't wrap my head around

[wind spruce]

wdym, you not fighting 32 plague ogryns in your game?!?

[rancid geyser]

i see 2 i alt f4

.>

[wind spruce]

we have arrived at basically the same spot for gunker

[mossy oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/yagami-yagami-light-yagami-raito-death-note-l-lawliet-gif-19231120

[wind spruce]

the only points im still not 100% on are the two it takes to get warp rider and whether i NEED the speed

but i have a need FOR speed so, y'know

[brisk vine]

what guns the go to for gunker? Revolver feels nice, but I don't feel I need the solo target.

[orchid ibex]

anybody who is a knife player, what's the biggest difference between the III and VI?

[wind spruce]

recon las gun goes BRRRRRRRRRRRR

[wind spruce]

because you can push attack for single target damage on psyker, the VI is better because its heavies have superior horde clear

[mossy oyster]

whats your setup anyway irosk

[ornate hamlet]

I have a quest'on about stamina things, isnt that kills survive chance, isnt it more good that you invest toughness and ehalth?

[mossy oyster]

my entire step of this gunker process

has been mk6 knife and agri revo

[orchid ibex]

@wind spruce thank you

[ornate hamlet]

I mean, most gunners break your force sword shield pretty quick

[brisk vine]

which mark? vb or whatever the super rapid fire one is?

[wind spruce]

mine is recon lasgun and knoife (duelling sword is better imo but im bored of it and knoife is fun)

[wind spruce]

super rapid fire for sure

its all about stacking burn

[mossy oyster]

knife mobility wins over DS for me

and it works just as fine as a DS

[brisk vine]

head hunter infurnus I presume?

[wind spruce]

i find my mobility is just as good if not better with duelling sword, because i use the light attack move tech to accelerate quickly. but i might be biased idk

[mossy oyster]

ah

another person huh

[wind spruce]

you dont need headhunter on psyker because of true aim

[mossy oyster]

I dont see anyone use L1

ive literally been the only one

[wind spruce]

true aim resets the headhunter chain making it basically useless

[mossy oyster]

QQ swapping with L1 as a soyker/zealot

to go faster

everyone is thrusting

they not on our wavelength

[wind spruce]

i left click, slide, quell, repeat xD

[brisk vine]

oh thought it would double dip in crit. Dumb that it works that way

I hate that

[wind spruce]

sweating hard

[wet belfry]

Knife has move tech aswell

[wind spruce]

yeah if a crit didnt reset headhunters chain it might be worth it, but it means we get to take dumdum so all is well

[wind spruce]

i dont know knife as well do tell

[wet belfry]

I have been damaged greatly

[wind spruce]

is it more than just i run fastly with a heavy attack?

[brisk vine]

👍

[wet belfry]

Ill be real with you i dont remember

Its not something i do consciously anymore

I just do it by muscle memory when moving

[rancid geyser]

depends on what you take but gunners getting through deflector is a personal choice made by the player

[wet belfry]

It has something to do with enganging an attack and then cancelling it with block

Probably h1

[brisk vine]

does the crit chance from scriers persist after the ult or is it only during?

[rancid geyser]

only during

[wind spruce]

ah right, you charge a heavy and then cancel before you swing, because the swing slows you down? i think thats right

[lament moss]

I only get Stamina because it reduces overall block cost, which then reduces the amount of Peril I have to pay to block melee and ranged attacks with my sword

[wet belfry]

Yea

[rancid geyser]

only thing that persists iirc is the damage boost and finess boost

[wind spruce]

i usually just slide before the swing for stamina conservation anyway

[wet belfry]

I do both sometimes

When i begin running out of stamina

But this is probably an action I’ve repeated over 10000 times by now

[wet belfry]

Arthritis comes for us all

[brisk vine]

why am i actively trying to not explode to get crit chance while zealot breathes and gets 80%+ crit chance

[rancid geyser]

kinetic deflection + ER = goated

[wind spruce]

yeah i need to play more knife to get it fully subconscious, with duelling sword ive done it so much i cant not do it even when its detrimental

[eternal junco]

dueling sword is poke poke poke

knife builds can vary

you got poke and you got slash

[wind spruce]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d2b3fdb-a7b0-4eda-856e-87229aac49a0/burn-gunker

this is my full recon build. im not sold yet that battle med is worth it, but its just funny to me to fully commit to peril reduction. it definitely helps bridge the gap when im reloading recon sometimes, and once you start shooting recon at a target its basically impossible for scriers to end

[rancid geyser]

2 flavors of poking

[mossy oyster]

soyker has innate 7.5% crit iirc

zeal has 5

[eternal junco]

I wish psyker could get more crit ngl

[wind spruce]

vet 5

ogryn 2.5 (suck it)

[mossy oyster]

so we can abuse EE and never have to dodge

[eternal junco]

surge voidstrike is so close to being really fun

[wind spruce]

also suck it vets, they used to have the most

[mossy oyster]

surely this wont have consequences

[rancid geyser]

you can get up to 73.5%

its overboard tho

ngl

[eternal junco]

surge vs

[wind spruce]

77.5% if i counted correctly

[rancid geyser]

yeah i think its the only one

[eternal junco]

double cannonball blast

I still am torn between surge nexus and surge flurry

[brisk vine]

how meaningful is perilous combustion? always seemed like a meme pick to me

oh Im red now

[wind spruce]

on void you can get nexus (20), surge (5), perk (5), basic node (5), aura (5), souldrinker (5), scriers (20), innate (7.5)

did i miss anything?

so maybe only 72.5%

[wet belfry]

I feel like the 20% damage reduction in scriers gaze just doesn’t make sense to pick up when you can just get more toughness instead

[eternal junco]

true in theory

[wet belfry]

Like 15 toughness is always active

[lament moss]

Just tested it and I can solo tank a Demonhost until it gets bored and leaves

[eternal junco]

souldrinker is inconsistent

[wet belfry]

Scriers gaze does not have a 100% uptime

[eternal junco]

still 67.5 cc is good

[lament moss]

This amuses me greatly

[wind spruce]

you could be right

im a big advocate of +toughness nodes, or i was before this patch

[eternal junco]

toughness on soyker is always great

since you can basically print it for free

[orchid ibex]

is it a good idea to bring a +3 stam curios? been doing hp/tough/tough

[wind spruce]

you also have to consider that that 20% isnt even 20% because of diminishing returns

[eternal junco]

if you like perilblocking and shoving it's a great idea

[wind spruce]

if youre running one with the warp and a few basic nodes along the way it can get as low as nearly 10%

[wet belfry]

I suppose not but im not very refreshed on how DR is calculated between all the nodes

Multiplicatives, additives…

[lament moss]

If you are doing something dumb like me, yes

[potent echo]

Toughness DR is additive for nodes

[wind spruce]

the basic nodes are additive with each other, then they are multiplicative against all other sources

[rancid geyser]

looks like i got over 88%

still excessive af and would never be worth it

[wind spruce]

SURGE STAFF CHEATING

[rancid geyser]

oy

its the only way to get that high!

subtract 21% crit then

lmao

[wind spruce]

hehe

[rancid geyser]

could never imagine using surge with gaze tho

that'd be a nightmare

[wind spruce]

stam is great if you A) arent great at dodging chaos spawns (learn to dodge scrub), B) arent great at extracting yourself from hordes/rager packs without needing a lot of blocks (learn to dodge scrub) and C) are running mk VI knoife and are push attack spamming (because you end up blocking more attacks, not because you need it for the pushes)

[shrewd comet]

i wish Surge affected Electrokinetic's secondary attack >_<

[rancid geyser]

to be fair if you are on force swords the push attack is kinda free

[lament moss]

The reason why I stack shit tons of stamina and block cost reduction is that I combine the sword blessing that allows you to block both ranged and melee attacks, with the talent that makes blocking cost peril instead of stamina. Stacking tons of stam simply reduces the cost of blocking even further, since it scales on that.

[rancid geyser]

it does, the 5% crit

the other part not so much

[lament moss]

I can just hold the right mouse button and tank anything on the grid

[shrewd comet]

i meant the double attack lol

[rancid geyser]

crit is worth tho

[lament moss]

proving that it would have lived if it was a shield super

[wet belfry]

Just look at case by case basis on why you are getting downed and you should have an answer, if you frequently get downed due to not being able to block grab a stamina curio.

[rancid geyser]

if it doubled rmb that would be busted

[eternal junco]

not worth over flurry tho

[lucid terrace]

I use it on my martyrdom psyker. Best build in the game

[wind spruce]

which is super fun and memey, but once you get to a certain skill level its just unnecessary because you can dodge slide to safety with just your natural stam/peril bar being sufficient

[rancid geyser]

idk i popped off in auric with it earlier

[eternal junco]

not saying it's not good flurry is just better

[rancid geyser]

i'd say its 100% worth lmao

i think its just a personal pref there

[lament moss]

https://tenor.com/view/memes-thednaofthesoul-memesthednaofthesoul-monsoon-metalgearrising-gif-26431019

[wind spruce]

depends how much you lmb spam

[lament moss]

I live for memes like this

[rancid geyser]

because having the 2 lmb for farther enemies is just nice

i used both lmb and rmb so this set up was just the best option for me

[eternal junco]

I wish surge double hit worked on trauma staff rightclick

[rancid geyser]

having 53% crit at 20% peril is just nice af

[lament moss]

Back in Last Stand mode for Dawn of War 2 me and my buddies would Hive Tyrant + 2 chaos sorcs, so that in round 16, we could make 2 demonic doppelganger clones, of the Nemesis demon version, of my Hive Tyrant. One of those could solo the final wave.

[wet belfry]

Always remember beta, when darktide was releaased and deflector was considered op

[lament moss]

I view this perma block build I just made as equally silly, but still equally funny

[wet belfry]

Opinions have changed

[rancid geyser]

still op in my eyes

[lament moss]

Besides there's still flamers to humility check me

Even if I am out there playing Jedi now

[eternal junco]

It'd be interesting to see a reflector blessing that sent bullets back when you ended the block

Kinda like ion's vortex shield

[rancid geyser]

this aint warframe or titanfall

XD

wanting ion/mag abilities in this game is something i am for tho

[eternal junco]

yeah I'm just a space wizard killing hordes of low level grunts to accomplish my main mission oh wai-

[lament moss]

This would get me harder than terminator armour

[eternal junco]

bringing Warframe abilities into this game would be broken asf

wf is a literal power fantasy

[rancid geyser]

would literally have ''return to sender: fuck you in particular" on every deflection

telling you im not the only one doing this in auric

[ripe yacht]

Has Warp Unbounded been fixed?

[rancid geyser]

nope

[ripe yacht]

Balls.

Danke.

[lament moss]

God this build is so funny

Hordes doing their best to melee and gun me down

My psyker:

I want to thank my friends, Kinetic Deflection, Deflector, +block cost reduction and +stamina

As long as I stand at the right place, 90% of the enemies just aggro onto my tiny crouched character and all the Veterans in quickplay go brr

Seems that the -20% damage to gunners and snipers doesn't affect how much it costs to block them tho

So that's going back to reducing the cooldown of venting shriek

[rancid geyser]

Add ER lmao

diabolical

could probably save curio slots that way

[wind spruce]

I thought it did, but might need to retest it. Id drop all the stam/block efficiency to see the difference more easily

[rancid geyser]

what i like to do on illisi sometimes is funnel them in a line then hack them down with blazing spirit

[rancid geyser]

its only damage

you dont take damage if you block

block only has a cost

[wind spruce]

Ok sweet

[wind spruce]

Do you have ovenproofs extension? I'd be curious to see how much damage you're getting from soulblaze (would need to be a build without venting shriek to really gage it)

[rancid geyser]

im not sure which one i have and my mental capacity to go into the mods folder atm and not fuck up is not there

lmao

i dont think i am doing a ton of soul blaze damage tho

because its a surge staff build

only time i use illisi is in emergencies or if its too taxing for me to shoot all the enemies

[wind spruce]

It's definitely worth getting, especially because the normal scoreboard mod has an error in the damage calculations

[rancid geyser]

i only want soulblaze spread for my damage stacks

this is my shit poor illisi

deflector for when im running and blazing spirit because its free stacks i just hack and slash in hordes

dumbest psyker alive

if you have a link to the mod i can put it on the burner

[wind spruce]

the big question with blazing spirit on melee though is how many stacks/how much damage are you actually getting before the enemy in question just dies. 4 stacks of soulblaze doesnt tick for that much, and on non-elites two crits often gonna kill it most of the time anyway

[wind spruce]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/241

[rancid geyser]

okay I need to explain something -- soul blaze here is only for my warp siphon procs, nothing else

i get warp siphon for more damage and when i vent i stack it right back up

specials/elite kills just enable me to get the stacks, i doubt any of the damage does anything before i outright kill most enemies

[wind spruce]

OH i see what you mean

wasnt sure what you meant

[rancid geyser]

yeah big brained it

i just want venting shriek CD and the damage from stacks

[wind spruce]

CDR is life

[rancid geyser]

yeap!

its fun spamming

until a mutant has to shut you down

pass me as a lay up for the sniper

[wind spruce]

why do 90% of mutant grabs land me in fire 😭

[rancid geyser]

that shit be brutal

ngl

XD

[orchid ibex]

tactical maneuver

[wind spruce]

Must be because im so good at the game, no other explanation

[rancid geyser]

it is, i feel like when im doing my greatest the moment i fuck up is the only chance i get

then its a wipe

or i play like shit after the rescue

[wind spruce]

or tfw you're playing like a God, realise you're playing like a God, and instantly stop playing like a God

[rancid geyser]

btw for ovenproof do i leave the scoreboard mod on -- or turn it off?

does it track you killstreaks?

[wind spruce]

leave it on

doesnt work without it

[rancid geyser]

highest i got with surge is 88

[wind spruce]

and nah doesnt track your killstreaks

[rancid geyser]

and highest with inferno was 127

XD

boo!

[median hawk]

Guys, what do you guys set your keybinds for your psyker ability? I feel as if the default (G) seems very unintuitive, because I often end up pressing F by mistake

I already have my two extra mouse keys set to slide-dodging and special attack

so I need a bit of insight

[wind spruce]

i moved it to F

[rancid geyser]

to be fair if you are missing the G key it might be that your key board isnt the right size for you

just a side take but eventually you get use to typing and knowing where the keys are without looking --- i bring this up because i actually had to get a bigger keyboard for myself when i started gaming

[orchid ibex]

i use middle mouse

[rancid geyser]

if i change any of the buttons im never gunna remember is changed them XD

oh jump is on a new key? i will never remember which one

[wind spruce]

im a sweater that "re-optimises" his keybinds every few months and it takes a solid week or two to not absolutely suck again

[potent echo]

I'm a turtleneck

[wind spruce]

but then how do you show off all that neck work you're doing in the gym

[rancid geyser]

ayo

idk where you are from but that saying got a completely different meaning in these parts XD

[median hawk]

Also, I'd like some advice on making an assail build that isnt a weird gun hybrid build that I keep seeing

I like Psyker because I suck at aiming

[lethal lagoon]

@split lance You still around?

[split lance]

Yeah sorry

[lethal lagoon]

Hop in big boy

[rancid geyser]

probably just path to empower psyonics and take ethereal shards and warp splitting

[ashen schooner]

there's an assail+voidstrike build I cripped from here a while back, it slaps pretty hard

[median hawk]

Any weapons that have good synergy with it? Staves and melee I mean

[native oyster]

Whats the dump stat for the flamestaff btw?

[rancid geyser]

le world is your oyster, i would got like inferno staff tho

[wind spruce]

There's ya basic voidstrike or even all-rounder trauma build

[analog agate]

Warp res

[rancid geyser]

sec lemme mock one up, then you can probably just staight up upgrade it

[wind spruce]

assail has synergy with basically every ranged weapon, but it particularly helps voidstrike

[median hawk]

Well good to know

[wind spruce]

its synergy in terms of what the rest of your builds missing though, which is rather subjective. as opposed to synergy that makes the weapon stronger

[rancid geyser]

i would go something like this for assail, but mind you --- I am probably the most degenerate person here

i like weird shit

[split lance]

Lemme put in my laundry rq

[rancid geyser]

actually dont take soul stealer

take 5% crit

since assail can crit

[median hawk]

One other thing I would like to note... a lot of the time I get separated from my teammates and get left behind... I can't mod the game to make teammate outlines more visible because I play on GeForce NOW

[wind spruce]

Drop mind in motion for the crit

[strong gulch]

0 and the rest 80 is possible

WAIT

[median hawk]

Last time I played with people from this server I ended up suffering a lot because I can't see my team

[rancid geyser]

i actually value the movespeed lmao, its become a takes when i can for auric

but that's a valid choice

[strong gulch]

I looked at the wrong number again.

[wind spruce]

i just throw in a slide as I quell

[rancid geyser]

every bit of mobility keeps me farther from being a spectator

XD

and malefic momentum is nice for assail as well i like those 2 nodes in general

[lethal lagoon]

slide quelling is why mind in motion is basically a non-talent

[rancid geyser]

assail is funny for add clear

arguablly you could save it for a bit more damage on elites and specials

since you'd want to stack psionics

and not just waste it maybe?

i'd just spam em tho

[broken carbon]

why do people never fully charge electro staff

[rancid geyser]

i would if i had the blessing for it

its not one with warp flurry and on warp flurry you only fully charge on lvl 3 stack i think too

so i just want the rmb for the peril so i can use lmb

unless i wanna maybe stun something or maybe fight like a crusher

actually havent checked if my lmb is decent at killing those yet

yeah no, just rmb crushers lmao

[median hawk]

I feel as if the in-game party finder just straight-up doesnt work?

[jovial juniper]

It does work

But who's using it?

[median hawk]

I guess nobody... I just want a team that isnt going all elitist on always going for Damnation

I want to have fun, not be stressed the fuck out

[broken carbon]

wdym

like

you wanna play heresy?

[mossy oyster]

if your team is elitist wouldnt that be relaxing

[wind spruce]

homie its not elitism, its a skill difference

[mossy oyster]

unless you find people specifically talking shit to you

[wind spruce]

regular damnation is a snoozefest for many

[median hawk]

I just havent played in a bit

also as psyker I get left behind all the time, and it is frustrating

[mossy oyster]

nowadays soyker is the one doing that

https://tenor.com/view/touhou-player-rain-bullet-hell-avoid-gif-25730203

[lunar totem]

is that an enderman or somethi

[rancid geyser]

this, like why ae ppl in damnation ignoring elites?

[rancid geyser]

how big is you head so i know what size cap to get?

how much is many, because malice is legit a lot for most

[wind spruce]

Why don't you ask your mumma

https://tenor.com/view/oooh-chris-pratt-parks-and-rec-surprised-shocked-gif-14609379

[rancid geyser]

i cry 😦

[wind spruce]

Idk dude, like most of the regulars as far as I'm aware

[rancid geyser]

on the discord?

[wind spruce]

Just this chat

[rancid geyser]

imma be honest, all the ppl of on the discord are easily overshadowed by the ppl actually not on it

would say most ppl here on discord are better off than the ones not

just by proxy of having access to help

its sad because there is a team finder now

and no one uses it

[wind spruce]

Nahhh, this chat has a much higher proportion of elite players than the community at large and other samplings of players eg reddit

[lethal lagoon]

The default assumption in this chat in any conversation is that we are always discussing auric t5/mael

[rancid geyser]

me, but i really should stop that

[lethal lagoon]

[wind spruce]

You don't even know how to melee

[rancid geyser]

melee icky

just use gun

[lethal lagoon]

Hey i'm meleeing a lot to justify my choice of souldrinker

[rancid geyser]

this is an outdate post but how do yall feel about this?:

[rancid geyser]

As the title says, the level restrictions for playing on higher difficulties should be much higher than they are.

Currently, the requirement for playing Malice is only level 3, at which the player doesn’t even have their first talent. This difficulty feels more like it’s intended for level 15 at least.

Similarly Heresy and Damnation are accessible far sooner than they should be, when realistically they should probably require level 30. These difficulties are so brutal right now that only very good players have a reasonable chance of completing them with anything short of full gear.

[wind spruce]

LOOK AT THIS SHIT

lets ignore that you did the most damage

(and how many times i died)

[lethal lagoon]

[rancid geyser]

lmao

[lethal lagoon]

1.1k, I clearly know how to melee

A master knows not where to strike, but when not to strike.

[wind spruce]

Pretty sure that was a misclick

[lethal lagoon]

Unironically it might be.

[rancid geyser]

1.1K MELEE ON PSYKER IS OPTIMAL THO

[lethal lagoon]

I switch melee all the time for block/slide

And sometimes it input eats the switch back

[rancid geyser]

I'd say you had the drea run where you dont gotta swing

[lethal lagoon]

5.8k, I'm clearly a leet melee machine

[rancid geyser]

good stuff

[lethal lagoon]

[wind spruce]

NO THIS IS PEAK

[lethal lagoon]

How about you have a seat right over there https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1046913589614747719

[wind spruce]

stop being so good

[rancid geyser]

50k ranged damage is WILD

nah fam where is the report button?

[lethal lagoon]

Surge go brr

I think the last game I played with clad I went down like 5 times and died once.

Still 1st though, obviously I carried

[wind spruce]

It was mostly melee mael to be fair haha

[rancid geyser]

will you guys imm carry me so i have sacrifice mats?

[median hawk]

That and my team is like, never aware of where other teammates are

[rancid geyser]

aaah makes sense

i forget those exist

[wind spruce]

https://outplayed.tv/warhammer-40k-darktide/OWlaaX

BRRRRRRR

[rancid geyser]

when ppl dont try to stay in coherency i do not sac myself to get them when they go down

like if someone seperates i try

but if they are like running away from the team constantly they can burn

I BLAME FATSHARK FOR REMOVING THE COHERENCY INDICATOR

it was so damned good

[lethal lagoon]

You are so good at poking....

[rancid geyser]

like what kind of backwards thinking ass decision was that

[wind spruce]

Isn't it still on the buff bar?

[rancid geyser]

that is something missable

[wind spruce]

True

[rancid geyser]

there use to be a swirling circle on each character

that got deeper in blue color

the higher coherency was

it actually showed your radius

and instead of making it a toggle option they removed it like idiots

[wind spruce]

That is dumb

[rancid geyser]

indeed

now ppl only know they arent in coherency when they get bodied from not having toughness regen

[wind spruce]

Tbf the coherency toughness regen isn't THAT impactful

[orchid shadow]

There's an indicator on your bar when you're in range, no?

[wind spruce]

It's more just general team cohesion

[rancid geyser]

you would be so damned surprised how many ppl dont know what that is tho

SO MANY

and then they are tunneled when playing so they wont be looking at if much either

im just venting but we HAD a good thing

[rancid geyser]

i tinks it is

[lethal lagoon]

True and Real

[rancid geyser]

it helps alleviate chip, so that the one time i fuck up it doesnt have to be the only time i get to fuck up

[lethal lagoon]

Another smite is dumb clip

[rancid geyser]

Rai tu ning!!

[lethal lagoon]

⚡

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

[wind spruce]

Pog

[lethal lagoon]

Pog and Champ

[split lance]

Hi

[lethal lagoon]

[split lance]

STILL ON?

[lethal lagoon]

[lethal lagoon]

If it makes you feel better we did a private match so you could join mid game

[split lance]

yeah i got super busy sorry guys @strong gulch

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah no problem Trenasauros rex.

[split lance]

[lethal lagoon]

[split lance]

[lethal lagoon]

[split lance]

[lethal lagoon]

[split lance]

i only have cringe anime ones left

[lethal lagoon]

That's the best part of an emote chain

All you have left is cringe and must make a choice

[split lance]

[lethal lagoon]

you or me, life or the great beyond.

[split lance]

[lethal lagoon]

Alright, fine, I admit it.

You are more cringe than me

You win, gosh

[split lance]

yeah

yeah yeah '

[sacred crane]

siblings what perks and blessings should i be using for the rrrrrrr chainsword rrrrrrrr

[rose lily]

do we know if palpatine electrocution pairs with the shock maul's electrocution?
(for blessings and talents?)

[sacred crane]

naw it doesnt

seperate zap zap

[weak galleon]

I have a perfect OCD inducing Surge staff for you.
Will it fail any breakpoints or smth?

[lethal lagoon]

Actually yes.

I think you lose a special breakpoint

Don't remember which

Honestly it's so easy to roll a perfect weapon nowadays, just shoot for a 60 warp resist one

[weak galleon]

which should be perfect?

I mean for that breakpoint

[lethal lagoon]

Unironically, 79-80 damage hits a special's breakpoint I believe.

You want more quell too so you can 1-2 tick 1-2 surge shots at peril edgeing level

[weak galleon]

okay, ty.

[lethal lagoon]

So just shoot for one with 60 warp resist

You should only have to buy from brunt's armory at most 10 times

[weak galleon]

forget about this.
I've rolled 80 mobility 13 times, 78 - 1 time, 75 - 1 time, when tried to get a weapon for zealot.

RNG, me and games are incompatible.

[lethal lagoon]

[slate oasis]

so just to make sure, you can't get higher than four 80s and a 61 on weapons right? there's not like a "god roll" of getting tiny bit more like a 63 or something?

[acoustic osprey]

yes, 380 is total, they said on the patch notes they are looking to fix the rounding error

[slate oasis]

ah okay. the weird 61 was just making me question things

[acoustic osprey]

dump stats still hold true?
voidstrike - blast
voidblast - warp resist
inferno - dmg
electro - crit bonus

[weak galleon]

well, look at that, that should be serviceable.
Not going to push luck any further, still need a lot of it for other classes.

[lethal lagoon]

No.

Voidstrike is still blast, the other 3 are all warp resist

You can certainly dump damage on inferno though if you are lazy

[weak galleon]

why is voidstrike blast?

[acoustic osprey]

i see thanks

[lethal lagoon]

blast radius is pointless and just causes problems

On voidstrike

[weak galleon]

how so

[acoustic osprey]

for that 5 headshot crit node

[lethal lagoon]

It can block headshots

[spice veldt]

mostly affects the outer explosion which is poopoo on voidstrike and mostly irrelevant

[lethal lagoon]

and doesn't particularly do any real damage

And it just bounces enemies around for no reason

Now on "Voidblast" , blast radius is peak

[acoustic osprey]

the only staff that ended up being 60 warp resist is the voidstrike

[lethal lagoon]

[lethal lagoon]

[weak galleon]

wait wtf.

[lethal lagoon]

Yes.

And 2 crits will kill all non-elites in that circle

from the warpfire

[acoustic osprey]

them warpfires are a lot of fun to watch

[lethal lagoon]

So will this btw

Which is why you shriek after voidblast for maximum memes

[weak galleon]

that I know about, I had no idea about blaze trauma AoE.

or remember from old day, at least.

[sacred crane]

remember siblings, always use shriek around 85 peril so that you get the most use out of screaming!

[weak galleon]

tbh, 60 warp resist Void is not so bad, it at least lets me get some peril up for bonuses.

but I do run that -40% peril talent in addition to warp charges.

[zinc phoenix]

It’d be great to get some wild overhead shots like this in game

[lethal lagoon]

you can

I do by accident all the time

[rancid geyser]

not 100?

[zinc phoenix]

Only way I’ve done it is getting barreled into space

[lethal lagoon]

Oh I mean I have a mod

[lethal lagoon]

Remember sibligns, shriek before your other siblings so you can steal their damage

[rancid geyser]

would assume 100 most use out of scream would be using it and maintaining your damage buff as close to 20% no?

am i bugging?

[sacred crane]

at 85-ish peril, that is when you reach the final breaking point for soulblaze stacks or damage but who tf uses damage

[lethal lagoon]

85 is just the min to get 6 stacks of warpfire

[rancid geyser]

but warp rider still exists

[sacred crane]

anything beyond doesnt increase anything

[lethal lagoon]

Well technically 83.33

But 85 is safer

[sacred crane]

i always do it at 85

yummy trash burn

[rancid geyser]

see i havent started using it yet but yall were telling me to let inferno burn things with the dot and i still gotta say relying on dot when i can just nuke something is just not to my liking

its why i was defending not dumping damage on that staff and just blasting dudes with blue fire on 80 damage

[sacred crane]

also FUCK this guy for saying shriek is awful

[rancid geyser]

oh

you dont know my history with that man

[broken carbon]

tanner has the worst takes ever

[rancid geyser]

he had me blocked for calling him out in this discord a few months ago

[broken carbon]

everyone here hates him

[hidden rune]

[rancid geyser]

his cruscean revolver take, he took down the video after is tarted calling him out

cussed me out then he blocked me

[sacred crane]

just need to know, he has horrid takes

[rancid geyser]

i know first hand

[sacred crane]

SHRIEK IS LITERALLY POSSIBLY THE BEST HORDE CLEAR ABILITY IN THIS GAME

[rancid geyser]

ppl like him are why i whole heartedly need empirical evidence and testing through heuristics

[sacred crane]

KILLS ALL TRASH MOBS

[rancid geyser]

i remember how early i started calling him out, ppl actually bullied the fuck out of me for it

glad to see that i won

bitch...

XD

[sacred crane]

Say like, a horde is attacking with a pack of ragers in it
Use shriek to clear that entire horde so you can deal with the ragers

LIKE

SHRIEK IS FRICKIN AMAZING

[broken carbon]

not only that, kill one of the ragers, that’s enough burn stacks to kill the rest

perilous combustion and shriek, when they work

they work vv well

[rancid geyser]

never gave me a chance to even respond

[sacred crane]

I will be honest and say i only use perilious on my purge build

[rancid geyser]

much dis taste

as if ppl dont work or got lives

[sacred crane]

(he is a femboy)

[broken carbon]

lmfao

[rancid geyser]

when i got back from work i couldnt even respond lmao

[sacred crane]

Honestly, I wanna gather a few of the active psyker mains here and make a full on video guild for psyker, complete with all nodes, builds, weapons and blessings

just to say FUCK YOU TANNER YOUR PYSKER TREE VIDEO SUCKS

[weak galleon]

so how do you build for a void like that?
Also doesnt seem like I can achieve that aoe on 80 blast, anything I'm missing?

[broken carbon]

erm

guide*

[sacred crane]

because blast radius kinda does nothing

[broken carbon]

i wonder if @near wyvern is making one

[spice veldt]

voidblast (trauma), not voidstrike

[sacred crane]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1129755245686292503/1143584039190663208/jumbo_josh_dies_for_our_sins.gif

[weak galleon]

Yes.

[lethal lagoon]

The pov makes it look wider than it is

[sacred crane]

PLEASE NO OFFENSE BUT PLEASE CLAL IT TRAUMA

[spice veldt]

the different perspectives is probably skewing your perception of distance

[lethal lagoon]

But it's still bigger than you thik

[rancid geyser]

no

[lethal lagoon]

Cause it's round

[weak galleon]

might as well, out of old habit.

[rancid geyser]

new age is upon us!

[weak galleon]

we got 2 voids now

[spice veldt]

voidBLAST voidBLAST voidBLAST

[rancid geyser]

Void Blasto!

[spice veldt]

blast staff

strike staff

vblast

vbucks

[sacred crane]

the one in my mind and the one in my heart (three days grace starts playing as i flick my long, black emo hair)

[rancid geyser]

.>

[sacred crane]

https://tenor.com/view/emo-emo-kid-holding-back-meme-he-itchin-up-to-fye-emo-kid-clutching-emo-kid-gif-11947330188346210441

[rancid geyser]

ebony darkness sounds like a chuunibyou name lmao

[spice veldt]

oh you don't know do you

he doesn't know

[rancid geyser]

legit cringed from reading that

[lethal lagoon]

[rancid geyser]

what|?

[broken carbon]

https://youtu.be/Ffh7cWRrqF4?si=NcypZdgmQvExGyBc

[spice veldt]

that excerpt is from a harry potter fanfic

[broken carbon]

isn’t internet historian like

problematic now

or someone in that video

idk

also hi at o

arho

to

[lethal lagoon]

I just have one word about harry potter fanfics... "Ropes"

[broken carbon]

arco

[lethal lagoon]

[spice veldt]

i know that he copied an article word-for-word for a script in the cave diving video

[rancid geyser]

im not about to even search that up

[spice veldt]

hi mao

[rancid geyser]

hard pass

[spice veldt]

weak mind

[rancid geyser]

yes

[broken carbon]

ah, right

[rancid geyser]

the weakest mental

[lethal lagoon]

I still feel like you are a different person without your old pfp

[rancid geyser]

would be the 1st to submit to a daemonette

[lethal lagoon]

You don't hax the ball anymore these days

[broken carbon]

i rebranded

[lethal lagoon]

You are Mass Effect 4

[restive cave]

How well does the revolver work as an anti ogryn weapon for psyker?

[lethal lagoon]

I mean it's okay agaisnt crushers

The others it's okayish

Psyker doesn't really have an anti-crusher gun other than revolver really

limited plague ogryn damage

[rancid geyser]

just poke em

[lethal lagoon]

Yueah

[broken carbon]

@mossy oyster

[mossy oyster]

I 2 shot bulwarks have 1 shotted a reaper and can 2-3 shot crushers

with agri revo

[lethal lagoon]

With agri?

[mossy oyster]

I’ve also 1 shotted bulwarks before

[lethal lagoon]

I should try agri again

[late sapphire]

tanner is notably a very unstable person

[sour bison]

what is this?

[rose lily]

aww so sad, electro melee psyker down the drain

[late sapphire]

It's empyric shock

Enemies you hit with a staffs primary attack (lil balls for surge voidstrike n trauma, small fire cloud for purgatus) get debuffed to take more warp damage

[restive cave]

Oh whoa lol

Any particular build?

[late sapphire]

revolver does great unyielding damage

[sour bison]

thx

[late sapphire]

not that impressive carapace damage

zarona surgical hand cannon or agri crucian roulette hand cannon

[restive cave]

Ahh I didn't realize. I figured bolt pistol would've been better than it but it feels very mid

Great at deleting specialists and elites though

[mossy oyster]

revolver is goated with unyielding damage yea

[late sapphire]

zarona - aim, wait for surgical, headshot
agri - fan, dump rounds, run and reload

[mossy oyster]

so I run carapace/maniac

[late sapphire]

bistol kinda sucks, always has

zarona has huge cleave agri less so

if you want to use agri to reliably shoot specials through a crowd without just dumping a mag you're shit outta luck - warp splitting might help, though

with warp splitting and zarona you're guaranteed a hit no matter how much chaff is between you and the target

[mossy oyster]

they buffed agri cleave

[late sapphire]

no 3stam 😢

[mossy oyster]

and warp splitting cleave

its basically a hipfiring/magdumping zarona

[late sapphire]

in short, run agri 100% with an sg dd build but i still prefer zarona for sidearm purposes otherwise

[restive cave]

What exactly does cleave do in a pistol? How much it penetrates mass?

[late sapphire]

Yes

Melee, hitscan and projectiles have cleave

[upper galleon]

yes, cleave functions the same on melee or ranged, it is just the direction the damaging part is going

[restive cave]

LOL this is almost exactly my build talent tree wise already

Perfect

[late sapphire]

Cleave is 'how much hitmass of stuff you can damage before the attack stops going'

[mossy oyster]

this gunker build

has 120 toughness

and 205 hp

if im remembering perfectly correctly

its all fun and games until toughness break then the real game starts

[upper galleon]

i do not know if some ranged stuff has quirks like some of the hswords have increased cleave effectiveness into the flak armor type on some swings

[restive cave]

oh yes

Getting shat on by gunners at range

and by the time you get close

"how quickly can I get my toughness back"

[late sapphire]

keep sliding

[restive cave]

It's hard on damnation when there's like 5 reapers and 5 gunners 😭

literally hail of lead

[mossy oyster]

I run and slide diagonal

when approaching gunners

[jovial juniper]

Sprint Dodge my beloved

[mossy oyster]

when are they replacing anticipation

or making it actually worthwhile

[late sapphire]

from 1 to 2 lol

[jovial juniper]

That's a lot

[restive cave]

100% increase

🙃

[late sapphire]

a whole 4 targets with warp splitting

zarona is like what 10

[jovial juniper]

12

[late sapphire]

baseline 12?

[jovial juniper]

No 6.5 iirc

[restive cave]

Any suggestions on fun melee weapons to try for psyker? I've been a force sword stan my entire darktide and kinda want to switch it up now that I've 20'd it

[late sapphire]

In short, with agri you used to experience the great joy of lining up a shot at a trapper and having it blocked by a single chaff mob

And with a zarona revo you shoot at a shotgunner and accidentally kill the 5 other shotgunners that were lined up behind it

[restive cave]

lmao like the bolter, one random arm..

[late sapphire]

dueling sword!

[restive cave]

(before the recent patch)

[restive cave]

gdi I just sold one LOL

[late sapphire]

knife is supposedly fun, the devils claw swords have a neat parry

ah, the shockmaul works ok on psyker as well

[restive cave]

I never quite understood the shockmaul

[elder glade]

Would definitely try out the dueling sword. Devils claw is good. Psyker with the Mk 6 combat blade can be interesting with the push attack spam

[late sapphire]

chainsword and heavy sword, as well as all of the axes i've found kinda meh

[restive cave]

Besides the special being funny to poke things with like a taser

[late sapphire]

chain axe is funny

[restive cave]

Wait, psyker gets chain axe and chainsword?

[elder glade]

Yea

[late sapphire]

As of unlocked and loaded yes

[restive cave]

I never even noticed lol

[late sapphire]

I'd 100% recommend the dueling swords first though

[spice veldt]

psykers collectively hit the gym

[late sapphire]

Used to be a psyker exclusive weapon

[late sapphire]

You never see psykers run em cause they kinda suck on psyker

[restive cave]

What's the dump stat for dueling? Defences I'm guessing?

[late sapphire]

Watch out

That stat is cleave damage on other marks

It is also the dump stat though lel

[oblique basalt]

Does the surge blessing affect staves secondary attack or only lmb?

[restive cave]

LOL

[late sapphire]

cleave damage on dueling from 60 to 80 is like 10% dmg vs infected and unarmored

[late sapphire]

All projectiles

i.e. out of the rmbs, only the voidstrike rmb

they fucking germed my game 😭

[restive cave]

LOL

[ornate hamlet]

the bear does what now

also holy shit stop calling the bear wird

it has feelings too

[iron stone]

Hey guys, Smite still doesnt crit, right? Just the staff secondary?

[late sapphire]

Smite does not crit, staves do. What does smite have to do with staves, though?

[iron stone]

My brother was asking, wanted to make sure my info wasnt outdated.

[tame venture]

for trauma staff, the stat spread for both fire and flurry builds is ultimately just 80s with warp resist on 60?

[late sapphire]

Yes

[tame venture]

that makes those easier to set up

[strong gulch]

No problem. Things happen. Like me refusing to get my glass of water from the kitchen during the loading screen. I'd do it again too.

Some things just have to happen.

[mental mist]

Does soulstealer proc off of soulblaze?

Does mettle proc from soulblaze crits?

[restive cave]

Wait, why exactly does the chainsword/chainaxe not work well for psyker?

[strong gulch]

Any warp kills procs soulstealer and souldblaze is warp. Soulblaze itself is a DOT and doesn't crit, so it can't proc mettle. BUT purg (inferno) when built correctly crits often and procs mettle a lot.

[tame venture]

Psykers have better alternatives for melee weapons for dealing all-round horde damage such as Duelling Swords or the Illisi Force Sword.

[restive cave]

ahh. I'm not finding the duelling sword to be working particularly well with hordes - illisi FS that one I know (and maxed out pretty fast)

Using the Mk II, maybe that's the wrong one?

[strong gulch]

DS isn't great at hordes. But it can manage them, especially with asaail to help. They excell more at single target. Because they do so well with single target and can mange hordes (with some effort), that's why it's heavily favored.

DS2 handles horde better the the DS4.

[restive cave]

Gotcha

Yeah, I feel like my melee is my "manage horde" option mostly

[strong gulch]

Even so, I wouldn't pair a DS with a single target weapon unless you have something to shore up DS's horde clear or just want to use that weapon.

According to someone's testing, and idk about the build, but chainswords apparently has better horde clear than illisi.

Worth asking around.

[rancid geyser]

about 20% crit is the point where it has near permanent uptime in hordes

[near wyvern]

I mean, there is the Atheneum. I haven't updated the strong and weak node list yet mainly because I want to properly play with them all first but I have a pretty good idea which nodes are worth it and which are not

[cold ivy]

I think in terms of pure horde clear, savage sweep/wrath + rampage chainsword kills faster than illisi, but there may be a few benefits to running illisi:

1. slaughterer gives power instead of rampage's damage, so it might help soulblaze if you're running creeping flames (i'm not 100% whether rampage damage applies to everything or just your melee)?
2. force sword push attack has crazy stagger so it can get you out of sticky situations
3. you can manipulate your peril up or down with the force sword, since you can quell/activate special

[near wyvern]

EP smite with LMB Electeo revolves around this, and many other disgusting things

https://youtu.be/EujuYDonqvM

[broken carbon]

disgusting build

stupidly overpowered

[restive cave]

ty

[restive cave]

I'd believe that, playing chainsword a lot on my vet lol

[mossy oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/lasers-concert-lights-gif-5102526

surge LMB only run

1 million damage

[restive cave]

yeah I keep trying to quell with my duelling sword LOL

big rip

blew my brains out so many times this run

[plucky flax]

Rampage is also power

[cold ivy]

oh good to know

[restive cave]

Rampage is damage only

[cold ivy]

the description says damage but maybe it's actually coded as power? it wouldn't be the first time a blessing description has been inaccurate

[restive cave]

ah

[rancid geyser]

huh, that is surprising

lmb is legit a special killer lmao

i have fully converted

lost kinetic deflection for this but its worth!

[unique mist]

what's the best way for psykers to deal with hordes of maulers?

[restive cave]

voidstrike staff

I am now a voidstrike stan lol

[unique mist]

i can't remember, do you go for the body or the head on voidstrike vs maulers? ik body is flak, head is carapace

[restive cave]

usually my team is in enough of disarray if a horde of maulers shows up that I'll just yeet it if I can

[unreal wasp]

You know. I'm fucking stupid. Using surge staff and I have smite equipped. Normally I don't use smite at all, am basically just using it to make my Illisi heavies stronger. Was just doing phage tree and we were having trouble keeping things off the objective boy. I could've just smited.

Forgot I have smite because I never use it

[brisk vine]

I use smite as basically just a giga push, the knockdown on fodder when you release is so nice for horde control.

[late sapphire]

surge voidstrike on an sg dd build

trauma (voidblast) on other builds

ds4 does the trick well, but is risky if you are bad

[unreal wasp]

Well that's the crazy thing too, I should be using Smite MORE after the update because I can't spam peril charge with force swords anymore so I have a reason to actually smite a horde to prime my Creeping Flames now

[plucky flax]

I smite maybe once every 5 games.

[late sapphire]

cant cleave carapace

(citation needed)

[stuck bridge]

this is a thing?

are you serious

[plucky flax]

[restive cave]

lmfao

you should have said no

and brought it

[orchid shadow]

Yeah, that's a thing. I've had people just drop as soon as I join, presumable seeing the Smite icon, my noob portrait frame and my sweet sweet green prison gear!

[stuck bridge]

thats kinda pathetic

reminds me when people were doin that with the buffed surge staff

[restive cave]

lmao green prison gear OP

[rancid geyser]

no fucking way

[rancid geyser]

oy, y you not tell me lmb on surge staff good?

no longer do i play touching 2 buttons when i can touch 1

[plucky flax]

It's pretty good but not as easy to play as right click surge and harder to solo clutch.

I still prefer normal creeping flames spam.

[rancid geyser]

fair, i didt get my ass handed to me trying to learn it

i didnt realize lmb had infinite range because my dlss made it look like it dissapated

[restive cave]

tfw moebian 21st modifier and no one brings anti-flak

[rancid geyser]

aim for the head

[restive cave]

yeah I'm the only one actually killing anything because I already go for the head to proc weakpoint hits 😂

[orchid shadow]

If you can get used to quell canceling, you can machinegun the left click. Just watch out for that carpel tunnel. Or get a macro capable mouse. 😛 It has good suppression too when hordes get close.

[rancid geyser]

tried this and died from hitting 100% peril too fast

lmao

its weeird doing it too the animation especially

[nocturne dust]

iirc didn't someone test and find out the head is also flak for no reason

[rancid geyser]

even it was wouldnt it still be a weakpoint?

but also thats fucked

[nocturne dust]

I could be misremembering

[rancid geyser]

lmao

[nocturne dust]

I mean yeah

[nocturne dust]

also yeah, lol

[orchid shadow]

I leaned into it by taking Empyric Resolve and and Warp Siphon tree for peril generation reduction. Along with the first node from Venting Shriek, you can spam for a stupidly long amount of time.

[rancid geyser]

may my tunnels be carpeled!

legit gunna have to take a break lmao

[rancid geyser]

im not only spamming lmb sadly i learned just earlier that tapping up crushers can let you delete them with rmb

[nocturne dust]

#psyker-class message

[rancid geyser]

this shit right here is legit

[nocturne dust]

I remember

[rancid geyser]

i am assuming each time i shoot 2 projectiles that is just 2x empyric shock

right fat shark?!

[nocturne dust]

bad build, no KD

0/10

[rancid geyser]

i want it

but im also greeding for the 5% crit

so i have 53% at 20 peril

[nocturne dust]

I mean do you really need wildfire?

[rancid geyser]

i tested and kinda

im still iffy on it

i dont want shriek to be the only way i mass spread

i ended up swapping off of deflector for this atm

[nocturne dust]

I mean, you could dump warp charges and go EP to combine lmb spam and smite

[rancid geyser]

just shred + blazing spirit now

[nocturne dust]

I mean, makes sense without KD

[rancid geyser]

did you just suggest that i use my warp ability?!

holy!

[nocturne dust]

I think the crit chance aura ain't worth it, lol

[rancid geyser]

i forgot that sahit even exist ngl

it is!

[nocturne dust]

lies

[rancid geyser]

2 shots asap is more dps

[nocturne dust]

counterpoint: it's 5%

[rancid geyser]

its the diff between breaking 50% crit early and not

[nocturne dust]

early

[rancid geyser]

i mean its 1 and half rmbs

thats fast and i have ER

it would take longer without it 😦

[nocturne dust]

rmbs? Without the rmb to lmb buff?

[rancid geyser]

for the peril

[nocturne dust]

I mean sure but then why not bring the rmb to lmb buff node

That sounds a lot better than crit chance

but I also don't use lmb spam

[rancid geyser]

when i hit my stacks i can touch crushers

that was without the 5% tho

still i just like extra boolet

i had fun with deflection

time to remove the crutch

[orchid shadow]

You have diminishing returns the higher your crit chance. Would personally take the lower CD from Seer's Presence for Vent cycle . I do miss the KD with this build, but then again, this is just so much fun. 😛

https://youtu.be/9c1wHfwiDQ8?si=JhCrmFmWjKVhAj5B

[nocturne dust]

you take that back

I would've gone with something like this

[rancid geyser]

I STAND---ON MY OWN TWO FEET

[nocturne dust]

but again I don't use lmb spam so 🤷‍♂️

[rancid geyser]

no shriek spam|?

[nocturne dust]

You've already got Psykinetics in there, what more do you need? lol

[late sapphire]

weird looking tree

[rancid geyser]

for the instant 50% off my life threatening affliction

[late sapphire]

why are the lines you picked such a low contrast blue

[nocturne dust]

mobile

[rancid geyser]

maybe i did prio crit a bit too much

[nocturne dust]

😭

[rancid geyser]

i go seer's presence

[nocturne dust]

specifically, mobile on gameslantern has blue lines on my phone for some reason

[rancid geyser]

i cry tho, i just never use deflector since i started lmb spam

lmao

nothing is shooting at me to warrant it

i just like the sound of deflector tho, i think that's why i use it so much

[nocturne dust]

I mean I use KD for more than deflector, lol

[rancid geyser]

im on illisi because the bzzzttzzz!

also fire spread lmao

i am a dork that likes seeing blue enemies

[nocturne dust]

I'd use Illisi on occasion. I don't love it though, the extra windup time due to charging bothers me.

[rancid geyser]

im used to power sword

vet main and all

[nocturne dust]

Deimos is my favorite force sword specifically because you don't use the special, lol

[rancid geyser]

i think deimos is okay

illisi is just --- power up -- CLEAVE!! -- CLEAVE -- REPEAT!!

the exact same as power sword in hordes

only thing is that it doesnt 2 tap crushers in half a second

[nocturne dust]

It's alright. I really wish deflector was just built-in.

[rancid geyser]

didnt it use to be

im almost certain it used to be

[nocturne dust]

Once upon a time

[rancid geyser]

i FEEL like it was

yeah cause i too touched psyker at one point before this

[wind spruce]

There was a bug at one point that made it built in

Didn't last long

[rancid geyser]

guess i was lucky

[nocturne dust]

it was a feature

[rancid geyser]

i remember blowing myself up using that shit

[wind spruce]

There was definitely a bug at one point

[nocturne dust]

I'm joking about a bug being a feature, I don't really remember those days. I kinda bounced off Darktide due to all the... y'know. Bugs.

[rancid geyser]

i dont blame you

i had to get my money's worth tho

[nocturne dust]

I only really started playing after the talent tree rework I think?

[rancid geyser]

im testing the 2 trees and missing this 2 rmb kill is hurting my soul

being greedy is not good, but god this is so nice

[nocturne dust]

Wdym? your tree with seer's?

[rancid geyser]

after struggling to stay on ranged vs crushers all the time ive been playing psyker

[rancid geyser]

yeah i miss it some times