psyker-class

[agile mural]

damn u can cancel the extra shot from quell cancelling from surge... thats... tricky...

[silver echo]

all i'll say is in a tier list of most to least dangerous elites/specs muties would be straight at the bottom for me

[zinc phoenix]

meanwhile vet eat crusher overhead and go "oh did i take a hit" lol

same lethality lol

[nocturne dust]

literally every class except psyker 😭

[silver echo]

maybe if they ever brought back the old nurgle blessed muties I might be a bit more scared

[burnt valley]

also not all psykers use warp siphon so dont always have same uptimes on shields bubbles almost always have to use siphon

[silver echo]

that's true, but they should all use it because its the best one and has no extra cost

oh wait i thought you meant seers sry

[burnt valley]

my doubl shield builds use psyonics

[silver echo]

no god why would you waste your points going siphon with a shield outside range mael

you have a 6 second downtime on bubble just from curios and seers idk why you would need more

and if you wanted more psykinetics would be enough

[nocturne dust]

that assumes you put cooldown reduction on curios

[burnt valley]

most go siphon for breakpoints what are u smoking

[nocturne dust]

which is eh

[silver echo]

yea you're playing psyker

[burnt valley]

cooldown is the thing u dont want

but its baked in by default

[nocturne dust]

Cooldown isn't that good on curios

[silver echo]

untrue

at least on a build where you're literally using your ability on CD

[burnt valley]

i cooldown my curious due to double shield no warp siphon

[silver echo]

which is most psyker builds I feel

[burnt valley]

with siphon hell no

[severe folio]

why no warp rider

the psyker guide we pinned isnt updated right ?

anyone know if it will be updated ?

[nocturne dust]

If you're using psykinetics and warp siphon, the extra ability cooldown is most often completely wasted. Even if you're not, the average down time is super minimal if you only have one or the other. 12% cooldown is not noticeable more often than not.

[zinc phoenix]

I like it with curios but I like 15% more health or toughness more than 12% cooldown most of the time

[silver echo]

I simply disagree

[nocturne dust]

Compare that to being able to take a sniper bullet to the face more than a couple times, or being able to stand in a hail of gunner fire. The choice is obvious imo.

[silver echo]

gunner resist is straight up bad lol

[nocturne dust]

It really isn't.

[zinc phoenix]

It’s nice being able to walk into a room of 20 gunners and not care 😂

[silver echo]

all three of my psy curios are hp, toughness, cdr

[burnt valley]

no stam regen kek

[zinc phoenix]

I take hp, tough, 2x gunner, 1x sniper, with two hp curios and a stam curio

[silver echo]

gunners either tickle you without it, from range, or still instantly delete you from being up close

[nocturne dust]

who the freak takes stam regen

[silver echo]

stam regen is the other top tier curio lol

[analog agate]

He explained in another comment he doesn’t spend much time in high peril as he is mostly quelling peril a lot to stay in SG

[zinc phoenix]

Stam regen really do be an odd pick

[burnt valley]

people who wanna block gunners for ever

[nocturne dust]

...you can do that without stam regen

[silver echo]

the only offensive curio options are cdr and stamina regen

[nocturne dust]

Psyker already has ungodly stamina regen

and can spam pushes

[silver echo]

yea that's why i use cdr

[nocturne dust]

CDR is useless

[burnt valley]

i was kidding

[silver echo]

it absolutely is not

[burnt valley]

christ

[zinc phoenix]

That’s too far, I would just say it’s situational

[nocturne dust]

Well not useless, but there's far better perks

[burnt valley]

pox sniper gunner ez pz

[silver echo]

literally just dodge the bright ass laser beam and don't walk into 20 gunners

[zinc phoenix]

I just don’t like being the guy in Scarface when I turn a corner

[nocturne dust]

just don't die bro

[silver echo]

maybe if they add a poxburster resist i'd switch to finally hurt less when people blow up bursters in your face but until then

[zinc phoenix]

And when there are like six snipers I value the sniper resist because I’m gonna eat one eventually

[silver echo]

tbh i run 1x sniper on my oggy

[zinc phoenix]

Maybe you can always dodge everything perfectly but I can’t 😂

[silver echo]

but otherwise I find it's just not worth

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, idk how you can claim you run aurics and then pretend you never get mobbed to death by snipers/gunners

[buoyant maple]

200+ health and 20% sniper resist
Everything else is personal preference

[nocturne dust]

especially without resistance

[silver echo]

snipers no, gunners it doesn't matter

[burnt valley]

most run gunner snipe almost always

[silver echo]

you die with or without the resist

[zinc phoenix]

You never roll the sniper auric?

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-believe-you-whatever-lies-gif-3602502

[analog agate]

Just click the heads. How hard is that?

[nocturne dust]

bro doesn't know how to use resist 💀

[zinc phoenix]

Sniper auric is up there with train for wiping teams imo

[burnt valley]

tbh i run 0 resist on psyker

because most shit is just a instant kill anyway

[zinc phoenix]

Esp if someone goes down and you end up with the goddamn scene from full metal jacket where dudes keep trying to rescue the guy who got sniped and is covered in beams then pikachu face when they get sniper buckcake

[analog agate]

I also run 0 resist. Live life on the high health/toughness edge

[nocturne dust]

but it's not if you have resist is the point

Like, the only thing that one-shots my build is a crusher overhead

[zinc phoenix]

If you run 3x sniper resist you don’t even lose health

[nocturne dust]

even mauler overheads take 2 hits

[burnt valley]

ye but a psyker most of the time on 100% hp or 20% health is no diff

[zinc phoenix]

When you get sniped

[buoyant maple]

Nah, it’s not possible on psyker without overtoughness

[nocturne dust]

💀

[burnt valley]

the whole point is just kill them before u

[silver echo]

also if you're running gunner resist with any staff you're super wrong

[zinc phoenix]

Fair it was probably because the endless stream of vets yelling me over tough

[silver echo]

since every staff has bonkers suppression built in

[nocturne dust]

Yes. Cooldown reduction ain't going to do that

[buoyant maple]

Veteran & ogryn can tank sniper shot with high enough resist
Psyker cannot
Zealot can FotF i-frame through it

[burnt valley]

that was a joke

[silver echo]

mf never heard of venting shriek

[nocturne dust]

If there was a magical curio stat that let me delete snipers before they existed, I would absolutely use it

[zinc phoenix]

Shriek is good but a lot of stuff is too far for shriek to matter

[nocturne dust]

Firstly, venting shriek is overrated. Secondly, snipers can hang outside of shriek range.

[zinc phoenix]

Like reaper mobs are sometimes frustratingly out of shriek range

And if you’re runnin trauma you’re basically melee 😂

[silver echo]

4 orbs will suppress a whole group of reapers

[zinc phoenix]

If you only play void I can see why you don’t value resist 🤷‍♀️

[silver echo]

iirc it's literally 2 primary attacks for gunners and 4 for reapers

no the m1 orbs do it

[nocturne dust]

and the moment a single reaper gets the drop on you, you're stunlocked and dead

[zinc phoenix]

Oh you mean lmb

Ok

[buoyant maple]

Staff m1 projectiles have very high suppression

[nocturne dust]

si

[silver echo]

you don't even have to come close to hitting them as well

also genuinely idk how reapers would get the drop on anybody

[nocturne dust]

Now that's not true, you have to be somewhat close

[silver echo]

they're huge and loud

[late sapphire]

they do jump from places from time to time

[nocturne dust]

You sure you play aurics?

[late sapphire]

i've had a crusher physically jump into me before

[buoyant maple]

In a competent team, no
In a team where 2~3 people have bad target priority, it happens

[zinc phoenix]

Im dead sure ive had stuff spawn on me 😂

[nocturne dust]

Enemies teleport all the time, not to mention things are so hectic I'd be surprised if you could keep everything straight while carrying a pub

[potent echo]

Telopots post just dropped

[zinc phoenix]

?

[lethal lagoon]

I've played enough third person to confirm that enemies 100% spawn from thin air when nobody is looking

I've seen crushers just pop into existence

[nocturne dust]

I've watched a crusher pop in, bonk the ogryn from behind, and then pop out

[restive cave]

Any suggestions for builds with it? It seems to encourage getting kills but keeping your peril down to sustain it

[potent echo]

I just had a horde spawn out of thin air around me yesterday lmao

[potent echo]

Crack of bone or the ranged equivalent is more than enough

[lethal lagoon]

Not anymore, you have 10 seconds of infinite peril after scrier's ends

Pew pew spam assail everything dead

pew pew spam EP smite everything dead

pew pew spam voidstrike

everything also dead

[nocturne dust]

No no no, it's spam assail then pew pew pew

[lethal lagoon]

If you don't make sound effects while throwing assail, and then turn around and kill them with silence, we can't be friends.

[nocturne dust]

😔

[potent echo]

Uoh

[silver echo]

btw for other people interested about the value of gunner resist here's a quick breakdown https://youtu.be/VhK14ydlAes?si=DLQ3rt2Ufo3Yyygv&t=131 tanner can be kinda a jerk but he's pretty accurate tbh

[nocturne dust]

wait

wait

is that

[zinc phoenix]

I’m not watching a video

[nocturne dust]

is that the tanner?

lmao

[zinc phoenix]

Idk who that is

[nocturne dust]

there's guy named tanner who I've only heard about on this discord who's notoriously trash in both personality and in game

[potent echo]

Best darktide content creator

[nocturne dust]

lmao

[silver echo]

yea he's pretty abrasive not really a fan of his tbh

[potent echo]

Is that tanner's alt account

[silver echo]

but the point he makes about gunner resist is correct

[zinc phoenix]

What’s the tldr on his argument?

[potent echo]

If I have been using gunner resist for months does that make me a tanner simp

[zinc phoenix]

I know chaos doesn’t do gunner resist

[burnt valley]

at close range it never matters anyway but most classes dont have stupid high toughness DR

[zinc phoenix]

But I also know he’s stupendously better than me

[burnt valley]

ergo gunner resist helps

[silver echo]

gunners just deal so much damage that running them doesn't let you live longer

[lethal lagoon]

Without gunner resist, all it takes is you missing one gunner in a corner/sneak spawning in a corner, and you are GG on psyker

[potent echo]

Gunner resist just helps when I trade with them with void

Or burgertus

[nocturne dust]

Lol, several issues with the video

[potent echo]

I'm not running scared I'm going in

[lusty brook]

I'm so used to playing Ogryn I get shredded by gunners on psyker

[nocturne dust]

for one, they're running a vet with added resistance, which messes with calculations

[zinc phoenix]

I’m so shit with ogryn I have no idea how to build them 😂

[lusty brook]

Heavy attack

You don't need to dodge or block as Ogryn ever just heavy

[zinc phoenix]

Me in aurics with psyker “I am a god” me in regular damn with ogryn “im dyingggggggggg” 😂

[late sapphire]

toughness is worthless because when you are close to a gunner and getting shitfucked, 100 and 140 toughness are basically the same

[potent echo]

I have almost never pressed push on ogryn lol

[late sapphire]

this is a good argument

same for health

therefore all curious should be wounds

[nocturne dust]

for two, this video is clearly old and probably before multiple changes to gunners

[lethal lagoon]

If you are playing non-gunlogger Ogryn, your job is to basically always be in melee range of something.

[zinc phoenix]

But that’s a positioning error, if you’re that close to a gunner you should be sliding to give them a lil love tap

[lethal lagoon]

Treat enemies as little checkpoints

[silver echo]

ok but toughness and hp work on all enemies?

[late sapphire]

yeah exactly

[zinc phoenix]

So what matters is the experience at range

[potent echo]

Ogryn has unlimited toughness so you can actually be fighting within vision of 5 gunners lol

[burnt valley]

my curios when i dont give an f

[late sapphire]

ok so? when you are getting pounded by 10 ragers +50 toughness only lets you survive 0.1s longer

[zinc phoenix]

Because that’s when you’ll be taking random shots

[late sapphire]

therefore its worthless

[potent echo]

Revive speed Chad

Let's goo

[nocturne dust]

I am judging you immensely right now.

[late sapphire]

It's such a dumb video

[lethal lagoon]

I feel like if you take a screenshot you gotta give some fucks

[late sapphire]

Where is tanner i want to 1v1 him irl

[nocturne dust]

It is, lol

[burnt valley]

what else do i do whe psyker except res all the people i ultimately end up getting killed

[late sapphire]

Show him how useful gunner resist (a ballistic vest) is

[potent echo]

Revive speed is the best

[lethal lagoon]

Doesn't matter if you roll 3 revive speeds, you'll still be just .01 seconds short when it matters.

[zinc phoenix]

EMTs be like 👆

[potent echo]

Add the vet one and people standup instantly and they die cause they didn't expect it

[zinc phoenix]

Oh my god this happened to me

[nocturne dust]

Lol, I see too many of those vets in auric

[late sapphire]

Just revive people in barrel fire

[burnt valley]

nah but for real i barely runs these anymore xD

[cinder mesa]

Does surge work on electro staff now or smth? I keep seeing it in builds

[zinc phoenix]

I popped up instantly into a crusher overhead and died LOL

[late sapphire]

God i love it when that happens

Surge only works on surge lmb

Those are surge lmb builds

[mossy oyster]

point tax, and its redundant to get warp rider when I have a bunch of peril quelling talents the main point is to maintain scrier buffs for as long as possible

[slate oasis]

I also have revive speed on all my curios. with kinetic deflection I'm just safely picking people up all the time

[potent echo]

VT2 and handmaiden moment lol

[lethal lagoon]

That talent is god awful because they start saving their shouts

And shout is meant to be up as often as possible

[potent echo]

No the other one

[zinc phoenix]

I spam it on cooldown

Don’t care if there’s nothing there

[late sapphire]

Hmm

[silver echo]

I think they mean the right side one

[potent echo]

That improves pickup speed

[lethal lagoon]

Oh

[potent echo]

Assist speed too actually

Railing man

[late sapphire]

I think i should have my zealot cosplay an EMT

[burnt valley]

just take ally assist passive call it a day shout is for shouting not reviving

[late sapphire]

stealth + revive speed x3

[mossy oyster]

also im sure this is just a soyker thing you just feel it 10x harder on gunker

[lethal lagoon]

Okay but to be fair, stealth zealots cause at least half the deaths in any given game

[late sapphire]

The thing about revive shout is that you can also just shout, nade and revive normally

[lethal lagoon]

Sudden offloading of aggro is often deadly

[nocturne dust]

Are you really an EMT if you don't have to fight your way through an endless horde of totally-not-zombies?

[late sapphire]

Good point, i will bring a flamer for direct treatment of large scale acute botherance

[nocturne dust]

flamer to cauterize the infection

https://tenor.com/view/stranger-things-fire-flame-gif-14920648

[silver echo]

revive shout could lose the 50% cooldown increase entirely and still be kinda bad

[late sapphire]

Guaranteed 100% complaint free

[silk otter]

should i buy? what is dump stat for this?

[nocturne dust]

damage or warp res is dump

so is aight

[late sapphire]

Used to be damage now it's warp res

[lethal lagoon]

This was basically half the people I rezzed back when deflector could block shots during revives.

[late sapphire]

It's so easy to get perfect statlines now

[lethal lagoon]

I just remembered that stuff

it was hilarious

Rez someone in front of like 8 gunners, no toughness on rez back then, instant death

[silk otter]

Ok ig I wait for warp res? idk

[nocturne dust]

Ngl, I've been looking at my purgatus scoreboards and the ranged damage seems way too high

[late sapphire]

Blaze away amps it

[nocturne dust]

it must really amp it

It's like 1/3rd of total damage on my warp res dumped staff and sometimes more.

[burnt valley]

I assume peeps say warp res due to higher warp = more dmg for purg

[potent echo]

Quelling is super fast and usually you are overedging so yea

[nocturne dust]

That and purg doesn't generate tons of peril anyway

[analog agate]

And 60-80 doesn’t matter much. And a lot of people are running ER for purg

[potent echo]

It does if you have 40% warp res

[nocturne dust]

[zinc phoenix]

You are not wrong

[potent echo]

Bleghh ER inferno

[nocturne dust]

Just run 0% warp res, e z

[burnt valley]

like every build isnt using ER anyway xD

[potent echo]

I got the perfect roll and a level 450 burgertus

[nocturne dust]

I actually like ER inferno

[potent echo]

With 40% warp res

[nocturne dust]

it generates just enough peril on 60% that you can dump shriek off cooldown

[zinc phoenix]

Book zealot is like stealth zealot but instead of screwing your team over by aggro dumping on them you give everyone toughness while stunning all enemies

Idk why anyone would take the stealth stuff

[nocturne dust]

bro y r u running 40%

what madness is this

[potent echo]

Stealth zealot exists to delete bosses

If they can't then they should stop

[burnt valley]

feel there is never gunna be a time i dont use empowered psionics on psyker anyway personally but will still always get ER either way

[zinc phoenix]

But you can just thunder thunder THUNDERHAMMER

I swear tho I can’t fucking aim the hammer

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/the-road-to-el-dorado-both-both-is-good-gif-8304204

[potent echo]

Stealth thunderhammer onecycle captains

[lethal lagoon]

Oh yeah, with the update, I can finally use thunder hammer

[potent echo]

Gimme peril don't give me res

[lethal lagoon]

I wasted so much plasteel trying to roll one and just gave up

[zinc phoenix]

I still couldn’t aim the damn thing

[potent echo]

I'm slippery slidey no resistance

[nocturne dust]

Filthy edger, go back to Slaanesh

[potent echo]

My soyker is all oiled up

[burnt valley]

rocks crystalline will +3wounds if only

[zinc phoenix]

I wish curios gave more wounds

[potent echo]

Perhaps

[nocturne dust]

Crystalline Will should make you an ogryn bomb

[neon cobalt]

great team mates

[uneven obsidian]

warp flurry still bugged or they fix it yet?

[silver echo]

there were 2 wound curios at launch

got removed for some reason

maybe when red weapons are back

[burnt valley]

if that perk was half the corruption and if u put +20% corrution resist id be blowing myself up a lot on purpose but allas u cannot as no fun is allowed

[lethal lagoon]

I mean on Surge warp flurry is still the main option

Also sometimes it'll anim bug and you'll get basically animation canceled surge RMBs

[burnt valley]

imagine not using flurry nexus

[zinc phoenix]

If it made you the equivalent of ogryn bomb with a wider area I’d stack wounds and try it

[burnt valley]

unless ur lmbing

[zinc phoenix]

That feels like the most lore appropriate way to psyker

[uneven obsidian]

i ask cuz someone on reddit was sayin the perk was bugged and didn't work since patch

[lethal lagoon]

Oh

that's 100% untrue

[uneven obsidian]

kk cool

[nocturne dust]

"I used the daemons to kill the daemons"

[burnt valley]

over throwing balls in peoples face i think not

[lethal lagoon]

It has a fairly niche issue where it seems to make the actual cast of the staff take longer, but it's still higher DPS overall

[zinc phoenix]

Suicide bombing

[burnt valley]

voidstrike into 100% peril duurrr

[nocturne dust]

They can't kill you if you kill yourself first

[lethal lagoon]

versus the charge

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/think-about-it-reece-simpson-kayode-ewumi-roll-safe-meme-gif-17305682

[lethal lagoon]

Fuck

You are too fast

I hate you

[burnt valley]

cystalline will buff when

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/kachow-cars-lightning-mc-queen-pixar-disney-gif-5931942

[silver echo]

I actually saw someone running a wound psyker in one of my aurics today

they were as bad as you would expect

[lethal lagoon]

Aww

I thought they were using the blow up talent to not go down

[burnt valley]

cuz perk lacks vision

[silver echo]

they were

not going down doesn't stop you from dying entirely unfortunately

[lethal lagoon]

Buff psyker blow up to Ogryn grenade damage now

[nocturne dust]

If Warp Unbound wasn't a thing, Crystalline Will + Scrier's would've been funny to see

[lethal lagoon]

Wait so what happens after the talent activates

are you back at 0 peril?

[nocturne dust]

iirc

ye

[lethal lagoon]

Wait a minute...

I can just infinite surge

[burnt valley]

would be funny if it reduced corruption dmg by 40% on overloading and curio 60% was enough to make it 100% so u could in theory being a 1hp time bomb

[lethal lagoon]

I bet I can last long enough between health stations

I knew it was a good idea not to scrap my wound curios

Time for my 3 wound arc

[burnt valley]

the fact u take full curse dmg just makes it zZzZz

[lethal lagoon]

That's 5 peril bars

I will go out in style

[burnt valley]

would be nicer if it was a viable option tho

to deliberately commit

even if it was to only kill hordes

be the 1hp wonder psyker just blowing up

[silver echo]

still better to blow up than go down normally I guess

[burnt valley]

aint worth the point as u usually struggle to make one to put it there

[silver echo]

well yea

[zinc phoenix]

I just want the boom to be more spectacular

[burnt valley]

only builds that can really are psionics builds

just doing 3 points instead of 4

[zinc phoenix]

I don’t really care if it’s a good idea to spend a point making something I basically never do extra hilariously effective, I just want it to be a really cool big explosion 😂

Maybe summon some ghostly demons and shit

Or make the walls start oozing blood

[silver echo]

does anyone know if any of the damage buffs actually change the explosion damage or if it's always fixed

[zinc phoenix]

Amp this shit up, the whole point of the game is the larp

[silver echo]

the blow up should as least spread some warpfire

[mossy oyster]

I told hahnda to test warp rider with crystalline explosion

it increased the explosion damage by like what

200 at best?

[silver echo]

make it drop a blue warpfire puddle

[mossy oyster]

I dont want to get on another crystalline rant

talent just sucks and shouldnt exist

[silver echo]

ehh it's ok

still not even the worst psyker talent

[mossy oyster]

to me

it is

[silver echo]

it's just for malice players who blow up on accident a lot anyways

[burnt valley]

its for non ER users

[silver echo]

genuinely I would much rather a psyker on my team with crystalline than unlucky for some

[frozen whale]

I need help

going for auric survivor

[potent echo]

Good luck 🫡

[silver echo]

now that i'm looking at unlucky does it actually not even fill your own toughness or is the description just not detailed enough

[potent echo]

I think it does but

[silver echo]

I assume it would

[potent echo]

It's not even max toughness, 50% is like 2 shots from a shooter

[silver echo]

but that's not what it says

[potent echo]

Also I think you must be in coherency too so it's

[slate oasis]

in order to know this someone would've had to have used the ability at some point, so we'll simply never know

[late sapphire]

Run train

[potent echo]

If they changed it to constantly regenerating toughness it might be an actual choice

[frozen whale]

update wiped my build

I need a new one

[potent echo]

Build again

[agile mural]

why warp res dump instead of like quell speed, is the difference just that minimal or something else

[late sapphire]

#psyker-class message

[potent echo]

Depending on your playstyle you might want as much peril as you can generate to get buffed

But also quelling speed difference is very noticeable

[agile mural]

like ye u would think u would like to shoot more often at higher peril without going overboard with warp resistance but hrm... idk...

[severe folio]

truu

[late sapphire]

60 to 80 warp resist is 14.5 to 13.5 peril on fully charged rmb

[potent echo]

If you are edging with overperil, warp res doesn't really help

[agile mural]

just trying to figure out whats right for lmb spam staff

[late sapphire]

60 to 80 quell speed is idk maybe +10% to +40% quell speed, i.e. 110% to 140%

[potent echo]

Electrokinetic?

[agile mural]

ye

[slate oasis]

thoughts on wildfire on a voidstrike build with perilous combustion? is this basically be a waste of a talent point or nah

[potent echo]

If you really are commiting to lmb you can dump charge rate

Worst advice

[late sapphire]

waste

[agile mural]

with surge n warp

[uneven obsidian]

whats better on deimos: first target or warp resist?

[late sapphire]

for voidstrike you should really go scriers gaze disrupt destiny though

force swords dump warp resist.

[potent echo]

Warp res might be more important for lmb spam because you can't do the overperil cheese

[late sapphire]

the special on deimos takes so long a few % of peril dont matter the gen is still super slow

[silver echo]

depending on the build you sometimes even want the fabled 0% warp resist sword

[late sapphire]

you probably won't find the time to special several times in a row on high difficulty

[silver echo]

now that easy god rolls are a thing that has to be the only major gear hunt left right?

a perfect force with 0% warp resist

[late sapphire]

The hunt is to get the 1500 diamantine you need to upgrade a weapon from 300 to 500

Weird weapons like a 0% resist or something yeah i guess those are rare now

[analog agate]

60 vs 80% quell speed on trauma is ~0.4 sec difference

[potent echo]

Lowest I could get was 40% resist

[late sapphire]

Do you have the numbers?

[potent echo]

With 80 in everything else

[late sapphire]

I genuinely cant be arsed to make a 60 quell speed staff to check

[potent echo]

Does it affect the tic breakpoint for edge casting though

I think trauma needs ~2 tics

2 - 1 - 1 loop kind of deal

[analog agate]

Or 0.5. No, that was based of my counting which obviously isn’t that accurate. Objective measurement was 2 ticks vs 3 ticks. I think Arco gave the more accurate time a few hours ago

[restive cave]

hmm, smite doesn't seem to synergize as well with scrier's compared to assail, does it?

[potent echo]

No it doesn't

[restive cave]

I tried

[silver echo]

tbh what doesn't scriers synergize well with now

[burnt valley]

doesnt synergize we me fuk scriers 🙂

[restive cave]

Smite doesn't seem to do great with scrier's tbh

it cooks your peril way too fast lol

[silver echo]

yea you turn it on at 99% peril to get a free 10 more seconds of smite

[restive cave]

ahhh

I'm doing that differently then 😂

[burnt valley]

not much diff than doing ER EP tho

[late sapphire]

surge and purgatus 😢

[silver echo]

for purely smite spamming it's better than vent since it has a shorter cd

[restive cave]

What's ER EP?

[late sapphire]

surge smite is ass though, with er & ep you can use venting shriek to almost skip quelling

EP is empowered psionics

[burnt valley]

empyric resolve empowered psionics

[restive cave]

Oh

[late sapphire]

ER is empyric resolve

[restive cave]

EP only felt good for brain bursting when I was playing with it

[late sapphire]

You end up basically smiting for free

[burnt valley]

it makes smite kills elites pretty much

[silver echo]

really for me it felt the worst with bb

since the built in 75% speed point seemed like enough if you just want to spam

[restive cave]

Doesn't EP for smite just increase its speed and jump?

[silver echo]

and take warp siphon for the cdr

[burnt valley]

speed and dmg

[silver echo]

no it's 3x damage

it turns smite into a purg staff lol

ep smite scriers is pretty fun

it's a smyker but you can actually kill things

[burnt valley]

ER EP can smite kill anything that isnt a ogryn anyway sometimes not maulers

[late sapphire]

With venting shriek you snowball really quickly

As long as you have a mixed horde to kill, you keep getting cdr, keep shrieking, smiting, kill, cdr, repeat

[silver echo]

I like scriers since it lets you take on the things smite is weak against instead of being more horde clear

[strong gulch]

Shriek + PC makes EP smite do banana damage.

[burnt valley]

i mean smites only weakness is ogryns tho

[silver echo]

and bosses

[burnt valley]

thats an obvious thing didnt feel i needed to say it

[silver echo]

sure but those are both things scriers is gonna help you with a lot more than vent

[strong gulch]

If you do it right bulwarks and reapers go down too.

[burnt valley]

yeah but kinda more tricky sometimes with ER EP version usually need to smite twice

[late sapphire]

Not really

up to 30% dmg and 10s of smiting time is ehh

[burnt valley]

vent = burn stacks = spread = everything being dead

with PC wildfire

[late sapphire]

Don't need wildfire no

[burnt valley]

ofc but smite ur typically using surge so u take it anyway most of the time

[late sapphire]

But Perilous Combustion + Venting Shriek is already kind of insane

Wildfire just does nothing in this scenario

[burnt valley]

there is rarely a time u take a surge staff and not have PC wildfire tho

just saying

[ornate sedge]

been enjoying EP smite with soulblaze shout. anyone else?

[silver echo]

yea everyone that uses smite

[ornate sedge]

aight

[burnt valley]

where is that again?

[agile mural]

i dont know how to fit this one how do i do dis. dunno whats important for this mess. (lmb staffspam) i really dont know if the 3 primary click tree bits are worth it but... dunno what else to do. it feels ok but...

[uneven obsidian]

stamina vs sprint efficiency?

[silver echo]

empyric resolve is just so good for skymer it greatly reduces downtime it honestly might be nerfed if fatshark actually does some real nerfs

[ornate sedge]

why brain burst? without fast cast or ep it kinda sucks

[agile mural]

point saving mostly.

[burnt valley]

aint point saving tho xD

[agile mural]

could be smite but... feels worse being nude

[silver echo]

if you're using staves with scryers take warp unbound

[agile mural]

whys that

seems like a dead point

[silver echo]

it's 10 seconds of not needing to quell at all

just full uptime

[ornate sedge]

imo, smite is much better here than bb. same point cost

[analog agate]

What weapon are you using

[burnt valley]

most smite specific builds still use only one point in smite xD

cuz its that strong on its own

[agile mural]

mk4 duel

[ornate sedge]

smite benefits pretty heavily from the perk that gives it more chains but it doesnt need it

[burnt valley]

from whats been said all that does its help it spread doesnt change how many it can hold

[ornate sedge]

fr?

[burnt valley]

from what i keep hearing here ye

[ornate sedge]

misleading ass perk

[potent echo]

It's still useful for a smiteker build

[silver echo]

a lot of perks are tbh

[burnt valley]

basically increases ur cone

[late sapphire]

took wildfire over psykinetics aura

[agile mural]

ofc.

[potent echo]

Wait does warp splitting help smite

[late sapphire]

my man...

[potent echo]

Haven't played smykers this patch

[burnt valley]

and peeps find enfeeble to be meh point aswell

[lusty brook]

Does anyone know if warp splitting affects voidblast?

Does it even have cleave

[late sapphire]

void...blast...?

it's an explosion

[silver echo]

voidstrike

[potent echo]

It already has infinite cleave

[ornate sedge]

it gives cleave to the basic attack

[lusty brook]

Oh word nevermind then

Saves points

[potent echo]

Still good for melee and assail though

Depends on how stretched you are for points

[silver echo]

oh wait blast is tauma now

[potent echo]

Ye

[silver echo]

yea lmao it has infinte cleave

[ornate sedge]

yeah why did they do that name change? shit sucks

[analog agate]

#psyker-class message FYI on smite node

[silver echo]

i'd bet everything it's some stupid games workshop bs

[ornate sedge]

they intervened over some dumb lore accuracy nonsense you think?

[wind spruce]

Emotional abuse*

[silver echo]

give the other saltzpyre classes flail + shield reee

[agile mural]

hmm

[lethal lagoon]

true

[agile mural]

interesting, smite things are all useless then?

[ornate sedge]

if they really want lore accuracy they should force the devs to add more psyker staves

[lethal lagoon]

Unless you are running EP smite*

[wind spruce]

I can only apologise!

[analog agate]

Someone else tried testing out souldrinker and found it was working even when not a DOT death. I don’t know who to believe anymore

[lethal lagoon]

Can I report you to HR for following HR guidelines too closely?

[wind spruce]

Were they testing in mission or in psykhanium?

[silver echo]

mission

[lethal lagoon]

in

[analog agate]

First psyk. Then mission

[ornate sedge]

purgatus build with souldrinker does feel pretty good

[burnt valley]

do find it funny that if u take elec enemies on heavy with smite + chainaxe thrust u can 1 shot crushers

[wind spruce]

They've got me on notice for manipulative use of corporatese!

[lethal lagoon]

I hate it

I hate everything about it

[wind spruce]

ARGH

[analog agate]

Let me find the post

[lethal lagoon]

Ever since i learned that was an HR corporate thing, and I've started noticing all the people I know texting with HR speak naturally, I lose my mind

LOSE MY MIND

ITS ALL GONE

[analog agate]

#psyker-class message

[ornate sedge]

call them slurs

[wind spruce]

Except for when it doesn't work I guess

[ornate sedge]

SNIPER (derogatory)

[lethal lagoon]

You are a pickled vegatable

[ornate sedge]

[lethal lagoon]

Brined in the sauce of society

[late sapphire]

Called a colleague 'heresy boy', almost got fired

[ornate sedge]

call him sissy boy next time double down

[late sapphire]

That may lead to unexpected steamy outcomes

Which i will be avoiding

[lethal lagoon]

You forgot to add "!" to show your openness and excitement in the workplace while still keeping things formal

Heresy boy! would have been fine

[wind spruce]

It definitely works off other people's soulblaze AND killing blows

[ornate sedge]

is there an internal cooldown on souldrinker

[wind spruce]

https://outplayed.tv/warhammer-40k-darktide/5nx86L

[lethal lagoon]

I don't think so, but the buff doesn't reset

So you can get more toughness but the 5 second crit buff doesn't reset

[ornate sedge]

damn

[split lance]

“!”

[ornate sedge]

doesnt really matter either way if the world is on fire

[wind spruce]

How dare you!

[lethal lagoon]

Crawl back into the abyss from whence you came foul creature!

[split lance]

Omg mom I’m famous

[ornate sedge]

Bigger!

[split lance]

I’ll touch you lil bro “!”

I’ve never actually seen “!” Used before

Ever

[lethal lagoon]

It's corpo speak

It's infected the texting of a lot of people I know

[split lance]

I worked in finances for a while

Never saw it

[lethal lagoon]

It's semi-recent

[split lance]

Maybe bc not huge company

Quite small really

[ornate sedge]

i feel like you take psychic damage whenever you're in a slack chat

[lethal lagoon]

How fitting!

!

[warm bolt]

This Maelstrom was pain (i suck at Psyker)

[split lance]

Are you calling my legs small

Wow

[ornate sedge]

"No problem, I will get those reports drawn up!"

[split lance]

I’ve been trying to grow them for over a year

And this is how I’m getting treated

Ur right tho

“!”

[late sapphire]

You should water them more

[restive cave]

Is the revolver better than the bolt pistol better for killing carapace stuff? I'm running assail/SG/DD and feels like ogryns are the main thing I can't kill easily

[split lance]

Can you help me

[late sapphire]

run voidstrike

[restive cave]

huh, interesting

[late sapphire]

#psyker-class message

[restive cave]

charged attack voidstrike? What blessings?

[late sapphire]

linked my build

[restive cave]

ty

[lethal lagoon]

Fwurry Surgey is what I likely wikey!

[ornate sedge]

warp nexus with surge is the only voidstrike build

there is no other

[late sapphire]

In short, you stick on nexus surge and throw huge crits

[lethal lagoon]

Flurry Nexus has higher DPS

It's been tested!

[late sapphire]

Doesn't matter

[lethal lagoon]

It kinda matters, friend!

[late sapphire]

Straight forward dps is not the same as actual combat

[lethal lagoon]

But I respect your opinion on the subject!

[ornate sedge]

speak in this manner again and i will report you to the inquisition

[lethal lagoon]

[lethal lagoon]

Oh nosies, being poked and proded and given constant attention, that would be so auwuful!

[potent echo]

Higher dps for ranged backline cringekers

[ancient plover]

Are there some cool nicht builds?

[ornate sedge]

🔨

[late sapphire]

One voidstrike double ball crit instakills a crusher or several maulers

[ancient plover]

Havent played gunzyker

[analog agate]

Nein

[potent echo]

True aim existing throws a whole spanner into the argument

[analog agate]

Und, ja…

[lethal lagoon]

No it doesn't? It just confirms what I said!

[late sapphire]

I don't like flurry because i throw half balls all the time

[potent echo]

Nuh uh

Melee until 5 true aim then swap for double ball

[ancient plover]

[lethal lagoon]

Melee on voidstrike? Might as well just use some random vraks gun and play full melee!

[analog agate]

Niche build atm would be lmb staff build

[lethal lagoon]

Not anymore

[potent echo]

False dichotomy deez

[restive cave]

alright, time to try voidstrike lol

[lethal lagoon]

here's a niche surge staff build, I doubt anyone else is running this.

[potent echo]

Melee voidker best psyker

[lethal lagoon]

Well except me of course, teehee!

[ornate sedge]

illisi best weapon

shwoomp

[restive cave]

illisi fucking amazing

[analog agate]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d1c7c37-2acc-4d60-b975-81f71d2867be/blaze-blast-nuke-build?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

my niche blaze trauma build… which I still maintain is really good

[potent echo]

I thought illisi was mid but SG and DD just changes any mid weapon into a god weapon

[restive cave]

can confirm

[potent echo]

Also 10% melee attack speed

It's peak

[lethal lagoon]

I guess not grabbing souldrinker on blaze trauma is niche now?

Surely!

[late sapphire]

🤔 more ranged damage than total damage

gods damn you scoreboard plugins

[lethal lagoon]

Oh wow, it's best not to use such aggressive language when describing other people's interests, okay!

[potent echo]

First total damage is the bad one from the default plugin

[lethal lagoon]

Okay!

[potent echo]

Are you illisi curious

[lethal lagoon]

[late sapphire]

Atlas if you don't stop i will be sad and will report you to HR

[strong gulch]

Alternative fire trauma build

edit: Old screenshot. Updated one has crit aura.

[lethal lagoon]

I have become HR itself!

I am HR

Fuck!

[late sapphire]

you didnt take the crit chance aura and node 😢

[potent echo]

Do not the HR

[lethal lagoon]

Do you use blazing on this lmb build?

[analog agate]

I take default scoreboard with grain of salt. But accurate scoreboard, to my knowledge, wasn’t updated since he only focuses on his other mod

[strong gulch]

OOP this old screen shot. I have that on the one I run. oopsies

[potent echo]

Is SG any good with trauma though

You don't get the 20% crit during unbound

[lethal lagoon]

I didn't like it.

[strong gulch]

It's RMB build

[lethal lagoon]

"Alternative fire" confused me, I see!

[potent echo]

Englishn't

[lethal lagoon]

I thought it was a play on words, alternative fire as in lmb instead of rmb and then alternative fire as in different source for the blazing, being the lmb. I quite liked it!

Wow!

Wait...

I think I get it.

It's kinda fun!

[strong gulch]

You're going through a whole jouney.

[lethal lagoon]

I mentioned earlier how some HR was pushing weird language changes, like adding "!" to the end of certain phrases and sentences.

[full panther]

what's the dumpstat on voidstrike? blast radius?

[lethal lagoon]

I feel like they are just trying to justify their jobs in workplaces where most people are already socially liberal.

[late sapphire]

I maintain that HR is a plague upon the modern workplace

A group of busybodies hired solely to harass hard working engineers like me

[lethal lagoon]

Harass is a bit of a strong word my friend, try something like "advise without my consent"!

That actually sounds way worse, so nvm

[strong gulch]

Depends. Some workplaces really need HR. Others seem made worse.

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah that's what I mean.

[late sapphire]

According to a sourvey conducted by the journal of just me actually about 90% of employee dissatisfaction is caused by hr and management being annoying

[rose lily]

do we know if palpatine electrocution pairs with the shock maul's electrocution?
(for blessings and talents?)

[lethal lagoon]

Every large bussiness has them, so when some places geniunely don't need them, HR starts turning into something really weird.

And by "large" I don't mean to imply small isn't just as valuable!

[rose lily]

... what about the poverty wages??

[late sapphire]

I'm german 🇩🇪 💪

[ancient plover]

Same

[late sapphire]

Pay's good in my industry

[ancient plover]

Does psyker have any build that deletes bosses .

[lethal lagoon]

Gumker

[analog agate]

Gun psyker

[late sapphire]

sg dd vraks 5 infantry autogun

or recon lasgun or laspistol (inferno, both)

[lethal lagoon]

I feel like rather than HR, those places need a camera system and a direct line to the police.

[ancient plover]

So you just pop scryers and unload ?

[late sapphire]

Yes

[lethal lagoon]

Ye

[late sapphire]

On the head, preferrably

I feel like the more comfortable and well paying the job, the more HR expands to fill the gap and ensure the employees suffer as much as possible

[ancient plover]

Hmmm care to share the build never played gunzyker how is it defensive wise?

[late sapphire]

From events where they try to force you to play some game or dance a silly jig to policing your tone and language down to punctuation marks...

[ancient plover]

Do you not get a lot of toughness by warp killa

Kills

[late sapphire]

You bring assail

[lethal lagoon]

Mettle

great on guns

[mellow prairie]

looks badass doesnt he 😎
too bad I can't afford 1400 aquilas 🤏 🕶️ 🥹

[lethal lagoon]

That hat used to be 900

Fatshark up the price the next time around cause it was so popular

[mellow prairie]

ugh

seriously?

that sucks

[lethal lagoon]

I'm like 77.3% sure.

They 100% upped the price on a different item

So it's not impossible

[mellow prairie]

looks badass tho

i'm tempted to buy it

[lethal lagoon]

It is indeed probably the best helmet

[ancient plover]

I missed so many cool psyker outfits

Fatshark is really stupid to rotate the shop

[analog agate]

I exclusively use that hat. If only it didn’t have the stupid rag over the face

[ancient plover]

They would make so much more money

[lethal lagoon]

I was about to say that, then I got too lazy. They could literally just sell the hat for the same price without the face part

[analog agate]

And we would all buy it…

Again

[lethal lagoon]

[kindred edge]

Precog vs Riposte on DS?

[late sapphire]

precog if primary weapon riposte if sidearm

[kindred edge]

ty

[mellow prairie]

are there any "new" weapons worth using for the psyker

"new" as in, guns from other classes

obviously anything other than staff is less than optimal. But I used to play shredder autopistol psyker, so I'm not unfamiliar with it

I was using combat shotgun while leveling up my veteran earlier. I was thinking, would this go hard on a psyker? Shotgun for short range, brain burst for long range? maybe?

[analog agate]

I honestly don’t think a lot of testing has happened with the new stuff. I assume nothing will change for meta

We already had access to the best. Ds iv, illisi, columnus

[silver echo]

yea heavy sword is pretty good on vet if you don't just want to use rashad every game but I really don't see it bringing anything an illisi doesn't already have

[stoic vessel]

how do psykers get so much crit rate? i pop scier but still cant seem to get that much crit

[silver echo]

warp nexus and/or true aim

[mellow prairie]

thoughts on combat shotgun and boltgun/pistol?

would any of these jive well with psyker

boltgun/pistol kind of does things the staff does but worse, i.e., crowd control/crowd stagger

[silver echo]

can't use a bolter on pysker but bpistol is pretty good

[mellow prairie]

ahh yeah

[silver echo]

I heard the braced autoguns were pretty decent on gunker

[slate oasis]

nexus + prescience + crit chance boost + true aim + crit chance perk

[mellow prairie]

psyker already had shredder autopistol so braced autoguns doesn't really bring a new niche particularly

[silver echo]

yea problem with braced autos on psy is bad finesse and wants headshots

[silver echo]

couldn't an agripinaa one have double cleave thanks to the new talent

[restive cave]

I maxed out bolt pistol on psyker, worked nice

especially with run and gun

[stoic vessel]

does riposte buff my staff crit or melee only

[tame venture]

What is the proper setup(blessings) for autopisser anyway?

[lime edge]

let me sell you on something that you wouldn't expect would be good:

double barrel on gun psyker

[rose lily]

do we know if palpatine electrocution pairs with the shock maul's electrocution?
(for blessings and talents?)

[mellow prairie]

go on

double barrel on gun psyker is good because

high crit? or

like whats up with it

i haven't used double barrel yet

so idk

[slate oasis]

I could've sworn it was cheaper too but apparently it was always 1400. (post from a year ago)

[lethal lagoon]

It's older than a year

[lusty brook]

Are the recon lasguns any good for scriers? I don't feel like leveling up vet and I like the recon lasguns

[lethal lagoon]

The fastest recon is crazy strong

dumdum infernous

[lusty brook]

Glad to hear it

Now I just need to level them up

Why does nobody use the other ones

[mellow prairie]

can shotguns build for crit?

[lethal lagoon]

they just aren't as good

Nothing much to it

[lime edge]

so the double barrel has an oddly good synergy with psyker i've found so far because of the usual meta blessings
man stopper, which gives you increased cleave on critical hit and 25% attack stagger
and scattershot which gives you 6-12% critical chance for each enemy hit by your previous attack

psyker does have the highest base crit chance but the real thing is

1. you get a lot of extra opportunities for extra damage, such as malefic momentum (bonus damage for non-warp attacks after warp-based kills,) or warp rider (20% extra damage based on peril) and of course, scrier's gaze
2. psyker has a new talent where you get 25% extra reload speed but it gives you up to 25% peril based on the clip, which is really spectacular for loading one barrel and really good for loading two
   but also you can leverage it to access Warp Rider a lot easier, and you can use it to access Warp Splitting which gives you up to 100% cleave based on your peril as well
3. you get a guaranteed crit on the right tree just for making five (5) weakspot hits which is easy as tits to accomplish w/ a dueling sword or a combat axe or deimos force sword

so at the low low cost of 'occupying a lot of ammo' you can be making some m.A.A.d crits/damage and achieving insane cleave for insane room cleave

i'm still experimenting with it but

it's been pretty good

[lethal lagoon]

I lost a bet in the discord and the weapon they made me use was double barrled shotgun.

[patent jacinth]

That isn’t a punishment

That’s a reward

[lethal lagoon]

It was

[lime edge]

main downside is because you're basically constantly at high peril due to the reload talent, uh

you won't explode based on that alone

[lethal lagoon]

I mean it was right before this patch

[lime edge]

like even if you use scriers and then reload you won't explode

[lethal lagoon]

I actually kinda wanna try it again after reading your wall of text

[lime edge]

but you're gonna have a hard time doing ANYTHING else that generates peril besides using your gun

so I've been experimenting with running that one subtree that gives you soulblaze around elites and shit that you kill just to get a little extra warp damage in

[restive cave]

why dumdum and infernus? is DOT damage good these days?

[lethal lagoon]

PC?

It's been OP since patch 13, hasn't changed much.

[restive cave]

been a while since I've played 🙂

[lethal lagoon]

I was talking to ice cream

[restive cave]

oh

[lethal lagoon]

true aim means headhunter is useless, infernous will kill a rager after you've gotten it to 50% through shooting

[potent echo]

Double barrel and assail works really well on paper

Anti horde, anti shooter,

Then anti armor melee

[restive cave]

ahh

[lethal lagoon]

When PC goes brr and you get 20 elite kills scrolling on the top

[lime edge]

yeah the main downside of the double barrel is its still kinda ass against carapace armor

[lethal lagoon]

[lime edge]

like you're hitting, say, ragers or anything with flak armor so hard that they might as well have never existed

but crushers even with both barrels even point blank even with scrier's

takes multiple PB's

[lethal lagoon]

You sacrifice horde clear though

Now that I think about it, Psyker doesn't have any ability to make guns handle crushers.

Even revolver is mehish.

Like it can kill em, but it got nerfed, and it reloads so slow

[latent mauve]

Good

[quick tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-hunter-gif-21179010

Pov: a crusher sees some psyker butt

[lethal lagoon]

[latent mauve]

I hate onslaught

[lethal lagoon]

TBF, no onslaught would make it more fun to play psyker

So let's do it

[latent mauve]

One of my crazier takes is duelist shouldn’t apply to ranged weapons

[lethal lagoon]

Does it apply to ranged weapons?

[latent mauve]

Yeah

[lethal lagoon]

That feels accidental

[latent mauve]

Its not

[lethal lagoon]

[latent mauve]

It’s the reason autopistol works on zealot only

[lethal lagoon]

ohhhh

[lime edge]

i have reasonable success w/ the bolt pistol

[lethal lagoon]

I never understood why people used it on zealot and never bothered to ask

[lime edge]

bolt pistol is just kinda based on psyker in general tho

[lethal lagoon]

I forgot bolt pistol existed honestly

[lime edge]

i love it

[vernal agate]

Question about gunker? Whats people's go to gun for that build? I kinda like the columnus, feels like the most generl purpose one

[lime edge]

i really do love it and i've loved it even before this patch

[latent mauve]

Mk2 laspistol

[lethal lagoon]

columnus got renamed vrak 5 or something.

Recon lasgun hot right now

[latent mauve]

Agri brauto

[lethal lagoon]

I was getting ready to try that ^ , it was my fave gun on vet

I like any weapon where the most optimal playstyle is on meth.

[latent mauve]

I have an ultra meth build that actually hurts my hands to play

[split lance]

I still don’t understand how columnus gets changed to vraks but a different gun is now columnus

[latent mauve]

Martydom tactical axe 2 shred headtaker

[lethal lagoon]

Oh I hate taxe

[latent mauve]

Could use actual movesets

M1 spam is funny though

[nocturne dust]

isn't that every weapon

[lethal lagoon]

Voidstrike?

[latent mauve]

Devil’s claw

Not methed

[vernal agate]

Hows the agripinaa on gunker?

mk 1

[lethal lagoon]

I understand electrokinetic staff and extrapolate from there.

[split lance]

Inferno staff too

[nocturne dust]

Fair

[latent mauve]

After playing ds2 today, I have come to the conclusion I don’t like it

[orchid ibex]

I've been using agripina on mine, lots of fun

[latent mauve]

Ds5 forever

[nocturne dust]

although they did buff the parry

[split lance]

I thought you meant destiny 2 for a second

[nocturne dust]

wonder how badly you can spam it now

[latent mauve]

They still didn’t fix the special input bug on it

So optimal dclaw play is to spam the key

[lime edge]

ok so i think i might be onto something with the following tree

[split lance]

I like this emoji but I’d rather be caught in a role play discord server than in osmongolds

[lime edge]

you are never going to really be using smite it's just an easy way to get both sides of that top half

[lethal lagoon]

what blessings for this, still the same?

[latent mauve]

Ye

[lethal lagoon]

Why wildfire?

[latent mauve]

I just like the brauto

[lime edge]

your objective is just this thing.

[nocturne dust]

Inferno is just blasting your enemies with meth until they OD

[split lance]

Works irl too

[lethal lagoon]

I have a bunch of streamer servers, some auto-kick inactives, it's annoying

Like this one

[split lance]

I’ve been inactive in this one before. Wonder how long ya gotta be inactive for for it to kick you

[latent mauve]

Ds5 has become my favourite meth weapon

[lethal lagoon]

Who would have thought a bunch of rich gamers have the best emotes

[nocturne dust]

I don't even see a point to autokicking

[lime edge]

so the reason for wildfire is because you're going to be double barreling a lot of elites and specialists and getting reliable kills on them
and perilous combustion doesn't give the most fantastic stacks (that's what your blazing spirit illisi is for) but it does keep your malefic momentum up really consistently from, say, poxwalkers that you got down but not out

[nocturne dust]

I think my favorite meth weapon is the crusher

[latent mauve]

Did you see the demonhost kill on stream

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2266643388?t=0h22m25s

Peak

[vernal agate]

Hey guys would this build be good for both Flurry voidstrike and surge staff?

[latent mauve]

[upper galleon]

if you are going flurry staff you generally want true aim so you can proc surge, which is the best blessing for voidstrike staff

[latent mauve]

Me and Hamdolsun were going to go double smite if they had us both in lobby

Cancermaxx

[upper galleon]

but it's good for surge

[nocturne dust]

Peak was attempting hitting the daemonhost with lights on a ds and missing

[latent mauve]

Yeah

They were average heresy pub tier

Not that bad, expected worse, played with devs that were worse

[vernal agate]

Wait sorry can I clarify

So for Warp Nexus+Surge on voidstrike, I take true aim

[latent mauve]

Not sure how much of it was just being carried instead of pure pubbing

[vernal agate]

But for Warp Nexus+Flurry, I don't really need to take True Aim?

[deft osprey]

Why does the surge staff feel a little clunky now? I feel like I can't spam the secondary attacks as much, there's this weird delay after charging it

[upper galleon]

without surge, nexus is a dead blessing tbh

[latent mauve]

Choked pretty hard

Public pressure

Damage taken not 0 I must repent

[upper galleon]

flurry+surge+ true aim talent is the best combo for void dps

[nocturne dust]

not necessarily

[upper galleon]

add in DD instead of warp charges and it's a specialized void build that onetaps crushers

[nocturne dust]

sus

[vernal agate]

Oooh yep I think I was previously running DD rather than warp charges

[lethal lagoon]

wildfire won't really contribute to warp kills, it spreads up 4, and that includes stacks already on them, and more often than not it will spread 1 stack to 4 enemies and quickly dissapate

[upper galleon]

but if you want it to be generalist with electrokinetic staff, warp charges is fine

yea for a double barrel build i would never take wildfire

just a self tax when cdr is right there

[lethal lagoon]

wildfire is for a build like blaze Trauma, cause having an extra 1-2 stack + 4, get's you to max and the regular mob kill point

There is some syngery with souldrinker though

I mean the main point is you are taking smite which isn't going to do a lot on this build, versus assail

[vernal agate]

Got it 😁

Has anyone actually tried to see how much mastery xp a game of Darktide gives xd

[upper galleon]

a lot xd

[vernal agate]

Rather than just sacrificing weapons

[lethal lagoon]

32,000 for all damnation

[vernal agate]

Imma go try it now for my infantry autogun psyker

[vernal agate]

Damn

[lethal lagoon]

auric regular mael, etc

always 32000

except the train of course

[upper galleon]

sacrifice same weapons to weapon type, buy/make greens to sacrifice if you have spare resources and want to power level

and just play the game

[vernal agate]

Do yall think blaze illisi or heavy sword would be good for gun psyker with a columnus xd

Something with horde clear basically

[nocturne dust]

Illisi is always a good pick

[orchid ibex]

Is there an issue with DD stacks not working or displaying right now? I've been having games where the stacks just don't show up.

[vernal agate]

Yeahhh I’ve always just been sacrificing xd, havnt actually had to play games to level up mastery…until gun psyker

[nocturne dust]

Not a new issue iirc

[lethal lagoon]

cosmetic issue going on for a while now

You can use a buff bar mod to fix it

[orchid ibex]

Ah so the stacks are there just no visuals

[lethal lagoon]

yeppers

[latent mauve]

Peak entertainment in lower diffs, you should grant them your gifts (smite)

[lethal lagoon]

I'm so shocked you get people who notice you

[late sapphire]

I feel i was mentioned here

[lethal lagoon]

I literally got a bunch of compliments for a "clutch" on the magi boss.

The kicker was I was watching them from a corner

I literally was just watching and they all died

And then I "clutched"

[latent mauve]

High mobility weapon + naked = hacker

[nocturne dust]

a clutch is a clutch

[lethal lagoon]

Oh yeah, forgot you were part of the pervert crew(tm)

Yeah, the knife zoomies can look speed hacky

[latent mauve]

It was ds2

[upper galleon]

it's a visual bug, you still get the bonuses

[lethal lagoon]

[latent mauve]

Wasn’t even playing that fast

I got kicked the last time I played fast knife in a pub

[lethal lagoon]

I literally just ran to the revive point fairly easily.

[latent mauve]

For dodge sliding

[nocturne dust]

be worse

e z

[lethal lagoon]

Get trapped before they kick you, so they feel superior when they revive you later.

And then no kicking

[nocturne dust]

bro nice clutch

[lethal lagoon]

Honestly though, I would 100% kick you if I didn't know about mods

Lots of online games can get you banned from playing on the same team with a "hacker"

[latent mauve]

I do get that high end knife play looks like cheating

But ds2?

[nocturne dust]

wtf kinda online games are those

[lethal lagoon]

Uhhh, WoW, HD2(I think), Any Souls game

I haven't really played multiplayer games like I used to

[latent mauve]

Knife movement looks like speed hacks

[nocturne dust]

dumb games

[latent mauve]

Especially if you combine it with movement from objects

[lethal lagoon]

Git Gud

[nocturne dust]

I am gud, that's why I don't play them

[lethal lagoon]

Unironically though, they are less fun to play(and watch) if you are naturally good.

[latent mauve]

Yeah

Elden ring was easy