#psyker-class
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I just wanna bludgeon heretics to death and spout tour guide lines to my associates
or maybe it was
at least with new scriers nodes (as broken as they may be) it gives you actual variety of choosing how you want to play gunker
and I like that
I think I enjoy this abusing scriers uptime currently though
It's always hilarious when you finish a horde and Savant's first words are "Though not to my liking, the camelid racing on atoma is allegedly sublime ^_^"
I would assume collateral is dump stat on most guns that have it. Unless there is a specific build that does a lot of increased dmg on staggered targets
bolt pistol wants collateral
does it?
considering its not spamming 100 shots a second
yes
lasguns on the other hand though id drop collateral
just so they stagger less out of my shots
but what heresy boy
does it actually make a difference
if you're good with the weapon probably not
look at the dev stream and say that again to me 
i at least play better than the devs
thats like being the tallest dwarf
and 99% of HD2 players "can" play the difficulty above 5 unlike the devs
good enough for me
clad are you a heresy player
and I dont think 99% of HD2 players are "good"
Can someone get this guy out of here
just cause they play helldive
Someone get him back to his nursing home
hes bullying me for doing auric exemplar on heresy
he would have cheesed it faster if train mission came out
when he was doing it
heresy train only
π€’
Should have done it on the magical maelstrom train idk
i did it before
he bullied me into getting A.S.S so i figured im half way to exemplar already
why not
did you really get it if you didn't run with 0 picked talents and sub-300 power weapons?
I think i got exemplar on a maelstrom streak helping people get ASS
too bad he hasnt gotten atoma's elite guard yet
I got exemplar in the same mission I got ASS, lol
idk game says i did
Can do it on train now too...
the emperor himself saved me twice on my run
Train too op pls nerf
i cant talk shit
kek
what happened
i think the train would be easier if you hopped off the ship and drop into the final boss fight
I saw him get 1 shotted by a sniper 1 second after it locked onto him
apparently it didnt make a sound or anything
lmfao
What does collateral do for you on bistol?
snipers make sounds?
assail go brrr
any more information i'd be mis leading
I do not run BPistol
I just know to dump mobi
ask him how he died to it
(he's still tramautized)
and besides I cant see his FOV
itd be a lot more player friendly if they paused the timer while defusing, then added time on the success. They should also take out the powercell section
No
Fuck player friendly
his fault for being weak of faith
you know what would be player friendly
actually having useful fucking talent descriptions
Train is extremely easy if you just stick together
frog needs to watch 69 my little dark age edits of the emperor
shit bait cause I didnt even mention train
I just mentioned how much I hate fatshark descriptions
if cica asked him to do it he would
Yes these are real changes that should be made
enhanced descriptions should be baseline
for talent/blessings
very crinfe
its not
I really like the recent change
what in the fuck kinda anime pose is this and when is fatshark gonna release it
Where they renamed power to strength but only on maybe 2 blessings
jesus
the stream hurts to watch
strength
is rampage still worded as damage despite being power/strength?
devs are using book in the middle of holy rev
fatshark needs to put guide with all the definitions for shit
well not for me
devs should be fired if they cant solo auric mael
so tru so tru
tru
fire everyone and hire dorn
darktide dies in a month

hire discord users, they'll be good devs obv
more like dorn dies in a week
The theme to one of best shows currently on TV.
Faster than fatshark is right now
dorn balances dark tide
I solemnly vow to take an od of ritalin daily and dev darktide 24/7
π
do not play with me anymore
Wait are the devs playing on console
the episode where soykers dont blow themselves up
I hear a controller
man, playing vt2 just makes me wish darktide had dual wield weapons
so is electrokinetic staff just the best one, or am i bugging, cause i have a low mastery one and it just feels good off rip
maybe its the versitility
you mean surge?
surge is pretty damn good
i mean whatever its called currently lmao
HER NAME IS SURGE
im only asking cause im maxxing out each staff
But it ain't me
eventully
this one just had the best feel so far
on inferno staff i felt like i kinda had to take assail in the end to deal with farther enemies, unless i wanted to sit on BR but i did come to appretiate BR during that time
its me
(I only use void when im evil maxxing and bored of gunker) which 99% of the time is never
or if im duoing and a melee maelstrom comes up (which is still evil maxxing)
cleaved through 18 poxwalkers and headshot a trapper
agri manstopper goes crazy
dorn is actually offering to mmt the devs 
I wonder how much more boss dmg I can net
single funniest thing
with agri revo scriers
that would ever happen
Siblings
this was the one i rolled havent touched it yet
but it feels good
if I go warp rider
MISSION SELECTION LEAKED
Do you see the redundancy?
Shock maul heavy activates and start shocking already
You don't really need that node
shock maul lights can electrocute
So what exactly is the rough outline of this psyker melee build Im hearing about as well?
there are only 2 sources of electrocution in game right?
probably some combination of scriers + a dueling sword or a knife
but no one uses knife on scriers for some reason really only feels like me/cole/yoshi run it
Shock maul and smite yeah
does enfeeble actually work with the maul then?
Good question really

And if Enfeeble does work on shock maul it would probably stack with Skullcrusher
should have brought devs into 3VEG
Need.
Hand it over.
How many unreleased poses are there?
Shit man, now I can't go into dev stream and kill DH
Time to spam smokes
Peak entertainment
they forgot they were playing the game
"huh were alive"
while ham was going between true duo and tru solo
the players that take their hands off the controller/keyboard
because they think run is over
(these are the devs why and how)

ok I wont question how
but I will question why
punishment for playing the game
cursed by knowledge
(that the devs lack somehow)
whatever, give everything rending/brittleness
What blessings should I use on dclaw?
He be smiting
Guys, what is "overcharging" in Scrier's gaze modifiers ?
Exploding
When you go over 100% peril and explode.
How are those any useful then ? I mean, you only have powerful buffs for 1s before getting down ?
Heh did you know that after maxing out on Scrier's you have a 1.5 secs period where you can't explode
That sounds... horrible
the buffs that requires you to go down by yourself by mismanaging your peril
Oh Crystalline will
Because exploding from your own peril is like, never worth
No, the Scrier's gaze modifiers
Post screenshots por favor
Well, "only while overcharging" does mean that after you reached 100% and are about to explode, according to the explanations I got earlier
So yeah, those seems to suck.
Oh no
Overcharging is Scrier's building peril with time
Yeah
Psyker_overcharging_stance
Well, sorry for the confusion. I didn't know the meaning of those words and thus got mislead
Thank you
It's understandable really
(I feel like those descriptions could use some rewording)
I guess we also mixed Overloading with Overcharging kek
Warp Unbound (WU) prevents you from exploding for "10s" (actually 11.5s) while using warp attacks at 100% peril. It's bugged right now tho. Surge staff (electro) charged and any purg staff (inferno) attacks will explode you while WU is active. Also, the protection doesn't always kick in right away, so sometimes you just explode anyways. If you stop warp attacking right before SG (Scrier's Gaze) ends and don't use the bugged attacks, you can freely use warp attacks at 100% peril with WU.
Does it delay the explosion for 10s, or does it prevent the explosion altogether during this duration ?
Prevent.
again can anyone fill me in on what to put on this staff? I'm kinda winging it atm
idk what blessings or perks specifically to use just put flak and caparace cause it doesnt aim at heads
Just finished a game with surge where I failed on voidstrike. Pox gas monsters and snipers. In 30 mins
does maniac actually hit a diff BP?
like maybe 1 less charge to kill ragers?
Yeah 1 shot flamer if crit and 1 shot trapper no crit.
2 shots dreg rager if 1 hit is crit.
oh easy ty
You can run elite too for 1 shot scab gunner no crit.
where do you get such a detailed breakdown of a mission?
But I prefer maniac to kill specials.
Warp resist is generally the dump stat, but some people don't care about quell speed. The OG blessings are flurry and nexus with flak. The second perk is more of a personal choice because surge BPs are all over the place.
Flurry and blue stims are bugged right now and can name casting slower. It's acknowledged by fatshark.
Mod called scoreboard. I use the ovenproof addon for extra details.
ah thanks
Mod. It's score board with ovenproof plugin.
I always dump warp res. The 1st one is just what im using until i max my mastery
I played the map on voidstrike and it was so tough so I went with my most OP build and carried the next lobby ez.
rolling new weapons is expensive af tho ngl
Also maniac let you 3 shots mutie if 1 is a crit.
Which is quite likely if you hit the same target 3 times with surge due to extra crit chance and warp nexus.
Idk I like maniacs because specials keep fucking rounds over.
I'm an unyielding enjoyer, but maniac is def good.
Do you have a tree? This is what im using for it atm
This is seemingly always the case with fatshark. They need to refactor their codebase because it's clearly a plate of spaghetti
If brain exploding was just a function call, and the ability was built into the function or was checked before the pop, it would work to prevent every instance of perils of the warp.
This class hasn't seen an update where it wasn't riddled with bugs
It's good but run cdr aura instead.
Also I have KD but that because I like to be able to clutch. If you don't need it no worries.
I like elites mostly because it buffs your SB a bit more. I guess even specialist damage isn't that bad, I think it gets you hound crit 1-shot easier and with some additional damage also gets you flamers
Has this update changed the play style of psyker much at all?
I'm seeing surge and creeping flames still kind of goated
It is the goated build.
actually does +elites even buff sb (ok yeah it does)
It should if the target is elite.
Besides that one basically 0 peril generation staff scriers build not really
Kk, so business as usual, just now we don't have to spend infinite plasteel failing to get surge on a void strike and the illusive force sword auto crit blessing I can't even remember the name of
Solid, trauma is solid I just..
...hate it
actually that makes sense, are the blessings good? i have an extra point now dunno what to do withit lmao
Yeah run nexus flurry if you are playing right click.
What's this, playing right click?
Did they change something to make people realize psyker staves are actually good guns?
As in right click with surge.
Because if you play left click then you run surge (blessing) and nexus.
Actual screenshot of me in every game prior to this patch
I mess up the push for bursters with the force sword every time. I'll get it one of these days
I always fire the balls of death like crazy. They are and always have been very effective
I just saw a reddit post saying right click psyker , where as in the past, no one really ever seemed to use the primary fire unless it was on a surge staff where it is strictly terrible
It's literally the easiest push in the game. Your followup psychic push has huge range
what's surge secondary good at?
On controller it fucks me up.
I can do it with every other weapon
I played controller for my first 2k hours
Big damage with auto aim.
i guess i need it to crit then
Its really good for killing anything except chaff
You want flack and maniac and crit blessings
Your crit chance will be around 40%, which one hits most specialists
So do I start to hold trigger while the burster is running at me? So the push is going off when he gets to me
So you can just down anything problematic
Block push shove if the trick
Which iirc is block into push with a second push
Anyone got a good build for both Flurry and Surge voidstrike venting shriek? and the playstyle difference
That does the hand push out, you need to get good at this because it staggers most enemies allowing you to do the emperor's work
Also, off the shove, your Deimos goes directly into heavy 2, which is a stab that knocks even crushers to the ground
What stops you from playing flurry + surge on void?
With practice, you can juggle crushers, control bursters, stagger ragers and remotely shove dogs
I also don't imagine the tree would be different if you run nexus + surge or flurry + surge.
Mythusian, it's the exact same build as the surge flames except you want to free up two points for the headshot ctits
Play style is the same
I don't see flurry+surge being good without SG,
Shoot stab shoot, scream, stab shoot
Honk honk punch
I hate the tru aim nerf.
As in surge staff+flames?
Staff and flames yeah
It's just, outrageous
Pump damage up, cool downs down, scream it out constantly
For both Surge and Flurry?
Yeah
Actually what is the playstyle diff between flurry and surge voidstrike?
There's not one
Huh? It's the same staff. You just throw blue balls at enemies.
They both aim for DPS
One tries for double crit headshots to waste big shit, the other just shoots more
You should be playing the same, if one works better for you, do that
Got itπ
If you can get good at headshots, surge(void strike blessing)is probably ideal because you can crit so much
I think I get what youre saying. I might try out Deimos for a while. I've been using strictly illisi
Unless did you mean the surge staff?
IMO Deimos is better if you can learn the patterns
Once you get the pattern down for deimos it feels so damn good to use
Illisi is great at horde clear and just horizontal swings, which you are already solid at. Deimos does what you don't do, control and demolish single targets
Learning block push into H2 is the tech that makes you a god
Illisi tech is strictly Heavy 1 light 2 repeat
Yeaahhhh before the crafting update I didnt have tier 4 flurry, so i exclusiovely used surge voidstrike, and I found it tough to headshot much, and I always tried to like, LMB shots rather than spam right clicks xd, so it'll be cool to try flurry ]
Should I keep slaughterer on demios?
I'm assuming uncanny is still pretty good on it
Still goated. There are more playstyle options, but meta hasn't really changed. Gunker is stronger. The only main difference is I think is purg. If you're mechanically inclined, you can keep blaze away stacks up with LMB and quell with quell cancel then change back to RMB, but that's really needed because stacks build up quickly anyways.
Uncanny is the one that really matters, slaughterer is fine but it's often not procced when you are fighting elites so, meh
I'll find something else to throw on there
Shred is fine, the damage increase from warp peril level is fine
Deflector is also an option
I might do the damage from warp peril. Especially cuz I have SG with warp unbound
The small damage loss in exchange for bullet protection is nice
Defense is for nerds
With deflector, KD and a stam curio, you have so much survivability
JK I might try it out lol. I've never even considered it
Which kind of matters more than maybe a 10% damage buff for shit that you overkill anyways
This might sound dumb but what is KD?
Ok thanks. I'm still learning all the abbreviations
If you are using your deimos as a general take on anything weapon, slaughter + uncanny. If you are focusing on single target, uncanny + executor.
For whatever reason, they coded the perils blocking to scale with total stam. So you take a 3 stam and it like doubles or more your block efficiency on perils. Then you have a juicy stam reservoir when your perils max
It's to the point you can block almost indefinitely because the perils run down, which lets your stam charge back up
Empyric Resolve also works on KD
It's peril resist and then stam
Gotcha
I have my voidstrike that takes care of most things pretty well. But I might use demios for when I get cornered by an elite. Especially if I can get the shove/stab moves down like rhino was saying
Good to know.
But yeah, the block efficiency on deflector augments your stam reservoir even more, which is kind of nice
now if only deflector blocked sniper shots/nets
The alternative blessings down really augment DPS much when you really need it, which is why I don't really advocate for them anymore. Uncanny is the biggest factor on elites.
You already melt chaff or one shot them with light swings
Sadly, you do have to dodge that. Which the Deimos is best at (in terms of force swords)
Did the blessings change with this new update?
Or hide behind a Zealot and let their faith to the emperor protect them from the bullet!
Assail helps me with snipers a lot. when they are within range anyway.
Otherwise I'm fucked
Brain Rupture is a good Anti-sniper tool
As soon as you start to BR your local vet will aimbot the sniper
Oh, I see the surge staff now has surge
So, Surge staff with nexus + surge seems nuts
Am I understanding this right?
You rock a 40% crit chance, and your crits now proc twice?
Also whats the dump stat on a deomis for a perfect roll?
surge surge LMB is also very good anti sniper tool
Sniper will just get both of you. 
Warp resist
You will almost never use the charge attack
Does anyone know how much damage charged smite adds to a heavy attack?
yes
ohhh yeah yeah that tracks actually and makes sense
The rich get richer jfc
Does the + crit chance on Scriers linger after the ability runs out?
I've always been confused about that. The way it's worded could be taken to mean that just the damage bonus sticks around
The crit chance does not linger.
Ah weak
So psykers have combat shotguns now, does that include the sweet sweet kantreal flame shotgun?
Yes
it doesnt feel that too bad to me
Sick, anyone doing a flachete kantreal crit build yet?
inconsequential imo
It's most noticeable on fast firing like on guns.
hmm
I guess
it doesnt feel that bad with agri revo / Dbarrel
theres like what
a 1 second differentiation from old patch to this current true aim
(in terms of being able to stack it to 5)
It's noticeable on assail and zarona revolver imo.
I know this is just confirmation bias from how ive been playing
but its not that bad on assail either
tbf
Well it could proc multiple times before.
I still think its quite fast to stack
On 1 assail.
yeah that was broken lmfao
1 crit assail = instant true aim back
I think its perfectly fine rn
especially if you throw a few darts out while meleeing
Mettle nerf/ bug plus true aim nerf together tho. I don't like that.
no
but also true
surge does not work on surge
yeah mettle getting shot in the legs
feels bad
but im keeping it for movement speed on crit

oh it does
on LMB
not on the rmb
balls only.
LMB spammers love it
Oh my bad. I assume balls only was known. By bad on that.
nah its a macro
pedantics in chat
macro even 10x more π΄
Can someone brain blast this guy
its one of the highest damage builds on psyker
If you use a quell cancel macro you are bad at the game sry
highest damage β fun
what's a psyker build that will actually get stuff done by themself?
I dont play psyker much but I feel like I see a lot of them who have to rely quite heavily on their team to follow up on their attacks and abilities
Is there a build where I can be self reliant, both in staying alive and in killing enenmies?
Most of em
its called being a gunker
Only some sort of non ep smiker build needs others to follow up
I see those macro LMB surge builds like every other malestrom game
Duelling Sword Mk IV, Purgatus, BB with EP.
Group of Gunners ? Peak, lock BB, cycle EP.
Horde ? Purgatus
Monster ? Both
Elites too close ? Duelling sword.
Rinse, repeat
I don't
What we do with macro users is we kick em at the extract
I use a modified version of this build, but it handles nearly everything very well
here is my build
here the credentials
also realistically any soyker/player worth their salt should be able to hold their own (unless you use smite)
good luck killing that entire horde with smite
EP smite deletes hordes
it's actually the best chaff killing build
every staff is good at killing chaff
surge
i seen lmb surge psykers mowing down chaff
Macros are cheating and don't count
Normal lmb fullauto speed is about the same horde clear as a ds in melee
EP smite shriek extends the definition of chaff to all non-ogryn enemies
it's the most braindead straightforward carry build you just keep ep smiting and any amount of enemies falls over after a few sec
Pretty much every one of them should self-reliant, I play support psyker but I am able to take out most of the enemies myself
EP smite with Surge staff, easiest way to hard carry a run.
for many, many psykers i feel the need to help them out
Ehh, it's expected, psyker is the highest skill-ceiling class
Relatively new psyker here, how useful is Charged strike?
The damage doesnβt seem huge and doesnβt appear to last very long to me
bad
terrible ability
Ok glad I wasnβt imagining that, thanks
probably highest skill floor, i feel like at a certain level skill isnt really related to classes enough to define any ceilings
highest floor is ogryn
Agreed. I think Ogryn is harder
Poor Ogryns being absolutely barraged by gunners
You can handle any situation with EP smite and surge. Only issue is that your monstrosity damage isn't great.
surge has ok monster damage
ogryn is my main and it was the easiest to pick up as a beginner for me
Any average ogryn bulwark can make maelstrom a breeze
nah
Yea but other classes can double or triple that damage.
yeah this, you get a lot more value out of an average ogryn than an average psyker imo
if you run ds melee you can duel monstrosities if you're competent
solo clutching as soyker no matter what build will still be more annoying than playing oggy (heavy toughness spam) zealot (free retry + healing) and vet (VoC toughness)
soyker doesnt get luxuries as crazy
besides smite turning everything off
Yah no shit a thammer zealot twoshots a monstrosity
Eh yeah, psyker has strongest utilities tho, a good psyker can bring victory in auric with even shittiest players
smite and deflect are best utilities in the game
So after some testing, demios fucks
Nah
VoC is the best utility ability
util psykers play the game wrong
it can take your wife and house
focus on dps, the best cc is to just kill all enemies
It's definitely doable, I clutched a game where a person left assuming it was hopeless. One of the team mates that I got back up was kind of flabbergasted
Ogryn is kind of busted but they suffer when trying to deal with disablers, which are often clutch killers themselves
you are gonna die if a gunner looks funny to you
I didnt say it isnt
You are very mistaken
I think they clutch better than veterans, maybe zealots too
zealots are the clutch class wdym
what
Clutching with ogryn is harder because you can only do so much much against special spam. Unless you are gun ogryn, kinda
Ogryn is easiest class
Learn the H2 shield bash repeat and you are legit unstoppable until you miss a net dodge
but it's also coolest
saying ogryn is easier than Zeleot is a wild take
h1 shield bash...
.
The surge blessing of the surge staff applies to the charger right click?
no
Typical ogryn player fucking up talkibg
I've been using deflect and uncanny on demios like rino suggested. It's fantastic
lmao, I have a ogryn bastion build, I don't have to even move or dodge most of the time lmao
monkey pfp checks out
ogryn = heavy attack spam never ending toughness
zealot= 2nd try and free healing
vet = VoC toughness that can tank a crusher and stagger everything around him
the class where you can facetank heavy spam a boss to death is harder than psyker?
or if the vet is running infiltrate its even easier to get revives
soyker will continue to be the hardest/most annoying class to clutch with
despite your build
even if its EP smite
Ogryns heavy attack makes you immortal and loyal protector counters everything, including bosses
indomitable is literally cheating
Yeah, until you run until multiple forms of disablers as ogryn
Waves of Specialists...
if you combine this 60 percent gunner damage redaction and 60 percent roughness generation speed, yeah
I switched from leveling an orgryn to psyker, it was a shock lol
Clutching as ogryn is incredibly easy?
ogryns easier than zealot on lower difficulties but at malestrom and auric, zealot is the better one
I feel you guys have strange clutch scenarios lmao. People usually go down because of special spam. Not hordes/gunners (for the most part)
solely due to how disablers are basically a one shot
As long as you can dodge trappers you are immortal
I think he plays malice
hordes and gunners can come after
agreeing on this, zealot is basically " oh fuck " measure button
(and then the team follows 30 seconds after)
God i hate stealth zealots ngl
You have to pay attention to em
Three stealth zealot matches man
If anyone agrees that Surge perk should also apply to RMB of the Electrokinetic staff, go leave your posts here. https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/surge-blessing-does-not-work-with-voidblast-staff-and-electrokinetic-staff/99094/24
Worst dt experience ever
you might have to be the one stopping special spam then
me too lmao
Dont chase the stealth zealot pls
Bug the devs to make that change
Anything happens, ever, and i hear i walk in the shadows x3 & all of the enemies turn and go to me
You only get yourself killed
is there a smite build based around killing enemies quickly with smite? lol
EP flames
ep smite venting shriek
Ep keystone
or just a good smite build, my reset after the update and ive forgotten it
I am. Which is why I almost never do ogryn. Cause people are dogshit at priority targeting
as a ogryn main, that stealth zealot always dying far away and I have to destroy an army to get him
imagine getting a stealth player that ran off by themselves
Woo! I got the going out with a bang achievement. Do to not paying attention to warp unbounds timer
stealth psyker when?
ill pick someone up who ran off if they're not a stealth shitter
This is what I save my ogryn nade for.
whats the diff between voidstrike & electrokinetic staff for m1 build?
Meanwhile you literally are supposed to run off when using stealth
warp shroud modifier for sg
surge has the critical bonus stat
He can hide his body but not his mind
surge has higher crit% due to crit bonus stat
m1 macro build?
I would like it if psyker got a stealth ability where you just go DONT LOOK AT ME and go 'invisible'
But literally no one knows how to play stealth properly and crutches on the de aggro instead
seer only
Thatβs ogryns stelf
what about tthe aura?
Is demios a gateway drug to dueling sword?
Yes
I use Deimosβ¦.
its the gateway drug to knife
Iβm at risk then
We will see if it has a little kick, it does
some might say better if you can use special attacks
All the deimos users i see in game are ass 
stealth psyker except you literally just phase out of reality and go to the warp and fight daemons until you get back
(it lasts as long as scriers generates)
some might be very wrong
actually this would be cool as an alternative to perils explosion
Would be cool
Turn into a DH when you fail the fight
you just go to the shadow realm and have to fight your way out
1v1ed a dh today... those fuckers should be afraid of stairs really
More like ledges
It's me.
Ik i played with you 
Dw we hard carried
I don't remember.

Me
Just did a match with someone screaming my name. 
But I just started using it lil
What are the best traits on a deimos rn?
Uncanny for sure.
A lot of people just kill themselves with it
or I guess illisi too
Slaughterer on illisi.
Locking themselves in place with the special at the wrong time
not blessings the perks or what ever theyre called
That is so me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgYFhEHItag
Oh yeah, I don't do that. I'm just bad in general
Also did gunners get suppression resistance or something because I cannot make them stop firing lately with funny balls?
They aren't green or anything.
They removed (?) the explosion stagger on void
I mean lmb
I would kill to have my buffs in the middle of the screen
I just did a mission to get more ordos so I could get a mk 3 knife because I deleted mine only to remember that I can just changed the mark now. π
Simply mutie or barrel jump instead
move tech
I swear to god sometimes i think i'm the only person with an iq in the triple digits in a match
Imagine standing in the elevator and complaining the other guy is taking long instead of just going to get them
Ye pubs are a lot worse now
That's what vc is there for, though
I tried to get to them but it was impossible.
Grabbing the laggard and then shitting on the idiots hard enough they leave
Vc is there for people telling me im bad without even doing anything 
So true
"We need more ogryns"
Charged Strikes for knife push attack spam is funny.
I can agree post patch pubs in auric board/maelstrom are super sus.
If I test meme builds it becomes extra hard. 
thats why you get a strong build thats fun
its how I solve shitty pubs usually as a gunker or if im using scriers void
I don't want to spam surge creeping flames every round.
I like deimos assail recon las tbh.
I can not combine Fswords with scriers
But it's harder to clutch due to gazer instead of creeping flames.
God I hate ragers so much
I always take the mobility talent so having that just go to waste without using a DS or knife
feels like butt
I tried ds4 with it but the horde clear is not great.
yeah its crazy strong
But deimos with uncanny slaughterer + cleave talent makes it clear horde really well.
gunker flows on a better cycle now
cause of that MM tweak
(even if it is a bit broke)
mm talent?
1 assail at near max peril can kill 5 + chaffs.
Are you guys finding you donβt bother with plasteel/diam anymore in matches? I was a packrat before the update, but now I am finding I donβt look anymore
kill with warp and non warp increase each other's damage.
with ethereal shards and warp splitting its exactly 5 chaff
Stack to 5 times up to 15% damage.
i FUCKING LOVE MM
Oh yeah it's a good talent yeah
I tried illisi* with uncanny slaughterer too. It's fine to fight 1 or 2 crushers.
i ran into an assail user macro quell canceling
But against 4+ it becomes hard. 
it was also a purg staff user
So I went back to deimos.
i fucking HATE PURG USERS
who?
asked hehehehhehehehehehehehhehehe
Now now kids if you don't stop fighting you will be made to sit in the smiker corner
mobility is so dog ass
I still grab it them, but I overall feel less inclined to go looking. But then sometimes my "MUST FIND MATS" kicks in and go treasure goblin mode.
its a big waste of the scriers speed talent
woe blaze away stacks upon yee
yes
im funmaxxing rn
ds4 sg is peak sorry
i have a clip of him just holding down m1 for 30 seconds
deimos sucks
Look ma im on tv
theres a 30 minute video of pygex holding blaze away stacks for 90% of the game
like
unironically
you can keep them up while u switch from lmb to rmb
its kinda hard tho
idk how he does it
no brainburst changes, just a bunch of raw damage buffs
I bet its so hard
Give back old assail with super fast charge and uncanny weaving + handcannon 
assail+uncanny bad
blaze away on purge good
must require 80% usage of your brain
HUH
101% for me
ive seen you jump and walk off ascension riser (on heresy)
im surprised you got soyker to level 30
honestly
without having your brain short circuit
huh
psyker is 3 buttons
w lmb and rmb
zealot has to dodge sometimes
its veri hard
no
GOATED
if i wanted guns id play vet
I'm constantly forgetting my buttons and jumping fences. I won't change.
vet dont shoot warp bullets
neither do we
beg
enemies explode with warp energy when I kill them
surge lmb with less than 100 toughness 
ive seen
a few of the sweatier siblings
have 90 toughness builds
and I think they make sense (if im thinking about them in the right way)
THIS i feel like gun builds are just trying harder to do something vet does so easily
then try explaining why you need the ammo more than vet
considering you have a bunch of toughness regen spam talents and they're % based maybe lower toughness is better
you dont
I just took crystalline will and wound curios because SG WU and and surge bug.
well im talking like talent maxxing and probably stamina and 1 21% HP
trying to grind weapons on damnation is a bitch
do the train mission
i get people who manage to die as voc iron will veterans
like how do you die with that build
and here i am trying to carry with a fucking level 1 knife
YOu mean real builds and not funny ball maxing.
I think 90 toughness gunker is
probably the sweatiest level of min max for it
might try it out sometime
run HP and stamina curios
I like how if I throw scryers gaze on my gunker and dive into horde swinging I cant die
wanna grind with me? the ppl on damnation are a bit brainless atm
peril is kept low by cleave and toughness keeps topping up
Though, theres always risk of not seeing a mauler and becoming psycake
The quell talents around SG are bananas.
i am very in and out, just grabbing a game when i am too annoyed with a work thing LOL
I need to try more guns for gunker tho
I have a good laspistol and a decent revolver
its great. get mad at work thing then join game and get mad at that
because people can be invested in something
stop having feelings 
I would trade one of my fingers for some datamantine
Lol I am. I just can't get ahead. I don't mind tho. I used to have that problem with plasteel.now I have thousands
40k plasteel ~5k diamantine
i build a few weapoins from zero
i wonder if i should build a new pickaxe mine is 80 80 80 78 62
might need that extra 2% cleave rite?
I haven't played psyker in ages, seems like the soulblaze build with the inferno staff is pretty strong right now?
Nah.
is the nomanus force staff still alright?
Which one is that
Let me answer anyways. Yes. All staves are good
But some are better than others
the lightning staff
Ah yes it's OP if you build creeping flames spam with it.
It was my second favorite staff before the new update. Iβll continue using it when flurry is fixed
DD Assail with Warp Splitting is absolutely nutty
Assail is my favourite force staff 
DBarrel and agri revolver are my favorite staves
wait what's broken about flurry rn?
force swords are my favorite staff
Doesnβt really work or can actively make your charged chains slower. Use Surge blessing until fix
anyone have a link to the bolt pistol build, finally remaking all my shit and forget everything it needs
Hey guys so Iβm looking at my smite build, I have empowered psionics but obv I wouldnβt be activating my blitz as often as if I were using brain burst or assail, so to u guys is it worth it getting Charged Up or could I use the talent point elsewhere?
ty
is that the thing where you store up to 3 charges?
Ye
if so then yeah definitely get it, because the charge does not disappear until you finish your cast
and then you have 0 charges after a cast
so your next cast is garbage unless you kill another elite through some other means inbetween casts
Ahh ok I haven't personally had to cast back to back really since I have Empyric Resolve and Venting Shriek but that's good to know
Empyric resolve is starting to feel like the iron will of this class
disagree
iron will is useful
(always useful)
empyric resolve can be actively detrimental
It think it can be good for SG builds. For WS builds? Eh, it is take it or leave it for a lot of people
WS as in.. warp siphon? warp splitting? wenting shriek?
Sorry, so used to only one. warp siphon. I realize it is on the way there so technically a SG build uses warp siphon too. I should specify non SG builds that use warp siphon I am still undecided
i guess it can be useful if you do something silly like sg surge
extremely niche however because that's a peril hog ability and peril hog staff
Well, I donβt use either π€·ββοΈ. I have been using it with blaze blast and been successful though
BB. Blaze blast. Brain Burst. I wish they just left names alone
Flurry is not broken if you do full charge on surge staff.
But if you do minimum charge then yes it's broken.
Also don't play blue stim with surge that's super broken.
is it still worth having it if you can only full cast as of rn
How exactly does smite work? Do both versions do the same damage? Because I always feel main does more damage than charged.
Yeah it still increases your charge time significantly. And with full charge your animation doesn't get stuck from the previous cast.
Charged good
Not charged fast
Does that help?
Damage same?
I'm gonna go with no given what he said
Should be easy enough to test in meat grinder
Good point
Left click is pretty nice for quickly pushing bursters
So many times Iβve saved people who were about to get splatted with a last second left click smite push
I was gonna quipβ¦. Does anyone use left click besides burster
They do same damage
It's good for when you really really really need it quick
Any of the disablers but yea
Stunning small groups
I so rarely use it so I guess I canβt talk much about smite though.

62 mobility?
In this economy?


I love the branx.
you can have 4 80s and 62
have fun grinding
I like the demios special more than ilisi
deimos is the best imo
being able to left click to stab is so useful I can't bear to try the others
Iliad is good to have powered up delete sweeps
that was what made me want to use it but it's a bit slow compared to the instant speed of the deimos left click + block spamming
What is the god roll perk/blessing combo for inferno staff?
Flak + something (I like unyielding) then nexus and blaze away.
It seems to stack pretty fast to me
And you can keep it stacked by spamming low charge pulses
I thought it stacked fast enough
bottom is standard blaze trauma so not sending full build but whats best for these
ive seen a combo of em a lot
Thats all you need
Battle Meditation is really good though imo
I dont even use soul stealer but I don't mean that in a way like it's not good.
Is BM a thing now because it aids in the non stop casting of inferno?
I havenβt actually watched Pygexβs video and donβt play inferno staff so I donβt know
battle meditation on inferno staff is nice if you have space for it
i take it over kinetic deflection
btw what do we think about this for revolver illisi?
warp rider is less valuable if you're running peril quelling talents
TTS/Crack of Bone
try this
I wouldn't personally recommend warp rider with crack of bone, yeah
You're gonna be quelling a lot
Something I would consider is replacing the peril on non-warp ranged crit thing which name I forgot
With KD
And then get surety of arms right below it for faster reload speed on the revolver
If you're getting PC, you could also pull one point away from one of the SG nodes into souldrinker
Irosk was testing earlier
and he said hes pretty sure soulblaze needs to kill the target
to proc souldrinker
free point to use
It's got a bit of an odd activation since apparently it needs to be your soulblaze
if you're running gunker you arent really relying on soulblaze to kill things
its a nice addition
From my testing, it seems to work when you kill stuff with other damage while they're under your soulblaze
to have DoT damage though
thats under the impression I was on
if it does work without blaze needing to be the killing blow
But I think it was Irosk that showed a video of it straight up refusing to activate
keep souldrinker
i can finally try a fully kitted staff now
I think that was off another soykers blaze stacks though
We narrowed it down to either needing to be your soulblaze, or a display bug
wish me luck in auric!
Since display bugs aren't unheard of and we get DD's working half of the time
And also because 5% crit chance is something we don't really see well in the middle of the game
Maybe souldrinker could be tracked on video by checking the toughness regen
To see if the display is bugged or if it's really the thing about it needing to be your soulblaze
i dont think souldrinker was one of the bugged mods
you need soulblaze to proc it but it shows up 100% of the time for me
either inferno staff kills or from wildfire/perilous combustion
blazing spirit*
cant get it without soulblaze
kills from the inferno staff last hitting procs it too*
Good thing there's no bugs with Surge staff atm. Given there was one with every major patch that sure is surprising. Enjoy the full experience.







