#psyker-class

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late sapphire
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If i could marry 100% peril bonuses i would

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(and then abuse them domestically)

radiant yew
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I just wanna bludgeon heretics to death and spout tour guide lines to my associates

summer prairie
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or maybe it was

mossy oyster
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at least with new scriers nodes (as broken as they may be) it gives you actual variety of choosing how you want to play gunker

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and I like that

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I think I enjoy this abusing scriers uptime currently though

radiant yew
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It's always hilarious when you finish a horde and Savant's first words are "Though not to my liking, the camelid racing on atoma is allegedly sublime ^_^"

analog agate
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I would assume collateral is dump stat on most guns that have it. Unless there is a specific build that does a lot of increased dmg on staggered targets

mossy oyster
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bolt pistol wants collateral

analog agate
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Does it?

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See, I am wrong

mossy oyster
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besides 60-61 mobi BPistol

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is fine

upper sun
mossy oyster
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considering its not spamming 100 shots a second

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yes

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lasguns on the other hand though id drop collateral

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just so they stagger less out of my shots

upper sun
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πŸ€”

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but

mossy oyster
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but what heresy boy

upper sun
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does it actually make a difference

mossy oyster
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if you're good with the weapon probably not

upper sun
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i at least play better than the devs

mossy oyster
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thats like being the tallest dwarf

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and 99% of HD2 players "can" play the difficulty above 5 unlike the devs

upper sun
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good enough for me

late sapphire
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clad are you a heresy player

mossy oyster
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and I dont think 99% of HD2 players are "good"

late sapphire
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Can someone get this guy out of here

mossy oyster
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just cause they play helldive

late sapphire
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Someone get him back to his nursing home

upper sun
mossy oyster
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he would have cheesed it faster if train mission came out

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when he was doing it

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heresy train only

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🀒

late sapphire
upper sun
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i did it before

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he bullied me into getting A.S.S so i figured im half way to exemplar already

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why not

nocturne dust
late sapphire
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I think i got exemplar on a maelstrom streak helping people get ASS

mossy oyster
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too bad he hasnt gotten atoma's elite guard yet

nocturne dust
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I got exemplar in the same mission I got ASS, lol

late sapphire
upper sun
late sapphire
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Train too op pls nerf

upper sun
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i cant talk shit

mossy oyster
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unlike the emperor punishing chud frog

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for Alt F4 cheesing it

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(deserved)

upper sun
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kek

upper sun
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what happened

mossy oyster
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frog just has terrible dog shit luck

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unironically

fiery stratus
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i think the train would be easier if you hopped off the ship and drop into the final boss fight

mossy oyster
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I saw him get 1 shotted by a sniper 1 second after it locked onto him

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apparently it didnt make a sound or anything

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lmfao

shy pewter
upper sun
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snipers make sounds?

fiery stratus
late sapphire
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train is already too easy

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the boss is a pushover

upper sun
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i thought they only made sounds on spawning

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not aiming

mossy oyster
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I do not run BPistol

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I just know to dump mobi

mossy oyster
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(he's still tramautized)

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and besides I cant see his FOV

upper sun
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yeah

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im not gonna do it

fiery stratus
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itd be a lot more player friendly if they paused the timer while defusing, then added time on the success. They should also take out the powercell section

mossy oyster
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so i dont know how he actually died

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but it was hilarious

upper sun
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his fault for being weak of faith

mossy oyster
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actually having useful fucking talent descriptions

late sapphire
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Train is extremely easy if you just stick together

mossy oyster
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and blessing descriptions

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lmfao

fiery stratus
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gottem

upper sun
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frog needs to watch 69 my little dark age edits of the emperor

mossy oyster
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shit bait cause I didnt even mention train

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I just mentioned how much I hate fatshark descriptions

late sapphire
fiery stratus
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Yes these are real changes that should be made

mossy oyster
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enhanced descriptions should be baseline

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for talent/blessings

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very crinfe

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its not

late sapphire
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I really like the recent change

fresh reef
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what in the fuck kinda anime pose is this and when is fatshark gonna release it

late sapphire
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Where they renamed power to strength but only on maybe 2 blessings

upper sun
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jesus

mossy oyster
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(and it doesnt have a single different change)

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besides the name

upper sun
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the stream hurts to watch

mossy oyster
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strength

clear heath
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is rampage still worded as damage despite being power/strength?

upper sun
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devs are using book in the middle of holy rev

fiery stratus
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fatshark needs to put guide with all the definitions for shit

mossy oyster
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rampage should be power which is dmg/impact/cleave

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and no it hasnt changed

clear heath
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desc is still wrong?

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wild

mossy oyster
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well not for me

late sapphire
upper sun
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so tru so tru

fiery stratus
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tru

upper sun
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fire everyone and hire dorn

mossy oyster
upper sun
fiery stratus
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hire discord users, they'll be good devs obv

upper sun
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more like dorn dies in a week

late sapphire
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Hire me i am a dev

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I will develop the entire game

late sapphire
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Faster than fatshark is right now

mossy oyster
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dorn balances dark tide

late sapphire
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I solemnly vow to take an od of ritalin daily and dev darktide 24/7

fresh reef
mossy oyster
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do not play with me anymore

upper sun
late sapphire
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Wait are the devs playing on console

mossy oyster
late sapphire
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I hear a controller

fiery stratus
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man, playing vt2 just makes me wish darktide had dual wield weapons

rancid geyser
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so is electrokinetic staff just the best one, or am i bugging, cause i have a low mastery one and it just feels good off rip

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maybe its the versitility

upper sun
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you mean surge?

late sapphire
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surge is pretty damn good

rancid geyser
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i mean whatever its called currently lmao

upper sun
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HER NAME IS SURGE

jovial juniper
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It's good but one can argue it's not the best atm

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Idk who that one is

rancid geyser
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im only asking cause im maxxing out each staff

jovial juniper
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But it ain't me

rancid geyser
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eventully

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this one just had the best feel so far

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on inferno staff i felt like i kinda had to take assail in the end to deal with farther enemies, unless i wanted to sit on BR but i did come to appretiate BR during that time

mossy oyster
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its me

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(I only use void when im evil maxxing and bored of gunker) which 99% of the time is never

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or if im duoing and a melee maelstrom comes up (which is still evil maxxing)

fresh reef
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cleaved through 18 poxwalkers and headshot a trapper

upper sun
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"dornivanotic: I can put up a I-II"

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This dude

fresh reef
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agri manstopper goes crazy

upper sun
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dorn is actually offering to mmt the devs KEKW_ogryn

mossy oyster
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I wonder how much more boss dmg I can net

mossy oyster
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with agri revo scriers

fresh reef
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that would ever happen

mental grail
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Siblings

rancid geyser
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but it feels good

mossy oyster
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if I go warp rider

upper sun
jovial juniper
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Shock maul heavy activates and start shocking already

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You don't really need that node

mossy oyster
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shock maul lights can electrocute

scarlet rock
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So what exactly is the rough outline of this psyker melee build Im hearing about as well?

rancid geyser
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there are only 2 sources of electrocution in game right?

mossy oyster
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but no one uses knife on scriers for some reason really only feels like me/cole/yoshi run it

jovial juniper
rancid geyser
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does enfeeble actually work with the maul then?

jovial juniper
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Good question really

upper sun
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kick dorn for ham

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lose

latent mauve
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I crashed out

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Out of memory

upper sun
jovial juniper
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And if Enfeeble does work on shock maul it would probably stack with Skullcrusher

latent mauve
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I was choking a lot that game

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I could have done it without hp damage

jovial juniper
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Performance anxiety got you

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Kek

latent mauve
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Ye

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Did still kill two demonhosts

mossy oyster
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should have brought devs into 3VEG

mental grail
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Hand it over.

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How many unreleased poses are there?

jovial juniper
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Shit man, now I can't go into dev stream and kill DH
Time to spam smokes

latent mauve
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Peak entertainment

upper sun
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bruh

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this is why everything has rending

latent mauve
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I went out to smoke

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Anything of note happen

upper sun
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they forgot they were playing the game

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"huh were alive"

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while ham was going between true duo and tru solo

mossy oyster
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the players that take their hands off the controller/keyboard

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because they think run is over

upper sun
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bro theyre eating peppers mid event

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im dying

mossy oyster
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(these are the devs why and how)

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ok I wont question how

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but I will question why

upper sun
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punishment for playing the game

mossy oyster
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cursed by knowledge

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(that the devs lack somehow)

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whatever, give everything rending/brittleness

upper sun
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also 2 wounds

fresh reef
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What blessings should I use on dclaw?

craggy sigil
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why didnt u top dmg then

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did plasteel mog the other psyker though

crisp yacht
mild junco
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Guys, what is "overcharging" in Scrier's gaze modifiers ?

strong gulch
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When you go over 100% peril and explode.

mild junco
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How are those any useful then ? I mean, you only have powerful buffs for 1s before getting down ?

jovial juniper
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Heh did you know that after maxing out on Scrier's you have a 1.5 secs period where you can't explode

mild junco
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That sounds... horrible

jovial juniper
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What sounds horrible

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Are you sure we're dancing the same tango

mild junco
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the buffs that requires you to go down by yourself by mismanaging your peril

jovial juniper
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Oh Crystalline will

mild junco
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Because exploding from your own peril is like, never worth

mild junco
fresh reef
jovial juniper
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Scrier's? No

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You're misreading something

mild junco
mild junco
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So yeah, those seems to suck.

jovial juniper
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Oh no
Overcharging is Scrier's building peril with time

mild junco
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Ah

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That changes a lot of things

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So, those are, in fact, quite good

jovial juniper
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Yeah
Psyker_overcharging_stance

mild junco
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Well, sorry for the confusion. I didn't know the meaning of those words and thus got mislead

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Thank you

jovial juniper
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It's understandable really

mild junco
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(I feel like those descriptions could use some rewording)

jovial juniper
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I guess we also mixed Overloading with Overcharging kek

strong gulch
# mild junco How are those any useful then ? I mean, you only have powerful buffs for 1s befo...

Warp Unbound (WU) prevents you from exploding for "10s" (actually 11.5s) while using warp attacks at 100% peril. It's bugged right now tho. Surge staff (electro) charged and any purg staff (inferno) attacks will explode you while WU is active. Also, the protection doesn't always kick in right away, so sometimes you just explode anyways. If you stop warp attacking right before SG (Scrier's Gaze) ends and don't use the bugged attacks, you can freely use warp attacks at 100% peril with WU.

mild junco
mild junco
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(if it worked as intended, ofc)

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Thank you

rancid geyser
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again can anyone fill me in on what to put on this staff? I'm kinda winging it atm

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idk what blessings or perks specifically to use just put flak and caparace cause it doesnt aim at heads

plucky flax
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Just finished a game with surge where I failed on voidstrike. Pox gas monsters and snipers. In 30 mins

rancid geyser
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like maybe 1 less charge to kill ragers?

plucky flax
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Yeah 1 shot flamer if crit and 1 shot trapper no crit.

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2 shots dreg rager if 1 hit is crit.

rancid geyser
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oh easy ty

plucky flax
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You can run elite too for 1 shot scab gunner no crit.

spice shore
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where do you get such a detailed breakdown of a mission?

plucky flax
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But I prefer maniac to kill specials.

strong gulch
plucky flax
spice shore
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ah thanks

strong gulch
rancid geyser
plucky flax
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I played the map on voidstrike and it was so tough so I went with my most OP build and carried the next lobby ez.

rancid geyser
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rolling new weapons is expensive af tho ngl

plucky flax
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Also maniac let you 3 shots mutie if 1 is a crit.

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Which is quite likely if you hit the same target 3 times with surge due to extra crit chance and warp nexus.

rancid geyser
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kinda wish the staff electrocuted

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maybe on crits but i wish it did

plucky flax
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Idk I like maniacs because specials keep fucking rounds over.

strong gulch
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I'm an unyielding enjoyer, but maniac is def good.

rancid geyser
echo turtle
# mild junco (if it worked as intended, ofc)

This is seemingly always the case with fatshark. They need to refactor their codebase because it's clearly a plate of spaghetti

If brain exploding was just a function call, and the ability was built into the function or was checked before the pop, it would work to prevent every instance of perils of the warp.

This class hasn't seen an update where it wasn't riddled with bugs

plucky flax
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It's good but run cdr aura instead.

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Also I have KD but that because I like to be able to clutch. If you don't need it no worries.

rancid geyser
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i was running the crit for illis

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soul flame spreading

summer prairie
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I like elites mostly because it buffs your SB a bit more. I guess even specialist damage isn't that bad, I think it gets you hound crit 1-shot easier and with some additional damage also gets you flamers

plucky flax
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Nah run cdr aura for sure.

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You want to spam creeping flames as often as possible.

echo turtle
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Has this update changed the play style of psyker much at all?

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I'm seeing surge and creeping flames still kind of goated

plucky flax
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It is the goated build.

summer prairie
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actually does +elites even buff sb (ok yeah it does)

plucky flax
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It should if the target is elite.

lone ravine
echo turtle
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Kk, so business as usual, just now we don't have to spend infinite plasteel failing to get surge on a void strike and the illusive force sword auto crit blessing I can't even remember the name of

plucky flax
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Also burga is really good now with blaze away.

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RIP blaze trauma SadgeCry

echo turtle
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Solid, trauma is solid I just..

...hate it

rancid geyser
plucky flax
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Yeah run nexus flurry if you are playing right click.

echo turtle
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What's this, playing right click?

Did they change something to make people realize psyker staves are actually good guns?

plucky flax
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As in right click with surge.

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Because if you play left click then you run surge (blessing) and nexus.

echo turtle
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Actual screenshot of me in every game prior to this patch

waxen jackal
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I mess up the push for bursters with the force sword every time. I'll get it one of these days

echo turtle
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I always fire the balls of death like crazy. They are and always have been very effective

I just saw a reddit post saying right click psyker , where as in the past, no one really ever seemed to use the primary fire unless it was on a surge staff where it is strictly terrible

echo turtle
languid pasture
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what's surge secondary good at?

waxen jackal
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I can do it with every other weapon

echo turtle
plucky flax
languid pasture
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i guess i need it to crit then

echo turtle
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Its really good for killing anything except chaff

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You want flack and maniac and crit blessings

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Your crit chance will be around 40%, which one hits most specialists

waxen jackal
echo turtle
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So you can just down anything problematic

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Block push shove if the trick

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Which iirc is block into push with a second push

vernal agate
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Anyone got a good build for both Flurry and Surge voidstrike venting shriek? and the playstyle difference

echo turtle
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That does the hand push out, you need to get good at this because it staggers most enemies allowing you to do the emperor's work

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Also, off the shove, your Deimos goes directly into heavy 2, which is a stab that knocks even crushers to the ground

plucky flax
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What stops you from playing flurry + surge on void?

echo turtle
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With practice, you can juggle crushers, control bursters, stagger ragers and remotely shove dogs

plucky flax
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I also don't imagine the tree would be different if you run nexus + surge or flurry + surge.

echo turtle
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Mythusian, it's the exact same build as the surge flames except you want to free up two points for the headshot ctits

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Play style is the same

summer prairie
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I don't see flurry+surge being good without SG,

echo turtle
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Shoot stab shoot, scream, stab shoot

Honk honk punch

plucky flax
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I hate the tru aim nerf.

echo turtle
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Staff and flames yeah

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It's just, outrageous

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Pump damage up, cool downs down, scream it out constantly

vernal agate
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For both Surge and Flurry?

echo turtle
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Yeah

vernal agate
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Actually what is the playstyle diff between flurry and surge voidstrike?

echo turtle
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There's not one

plucky flax
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Huh? It's the same staff. You just throw blue balls at enemies.

echo turtle
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They both aim for DPS

One tries for double crit headshots to waste big shit, the other just shoots more

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You should be playing the same, if one works better for you, do that

echo turtle
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If you can get good at headshots, surge(void strike blessing)is probably ideal because you can crit so much

waxen jackal
echo turtle
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Unless did you mean the surge staff?

echo turtle
scarlet rock
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Once you get the pattern down for deimos it feels so damn good to use

echo turtle
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Illisi is great at horde clear and just horizontal swings, which you are already solid at. Deimos does what you don't do, control and demolish single targets

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Learning block push into H2 is the tech that makes you a god

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Illisi tech is strictly Heavy 1 light 2 repeat

vernal agate
waxen jackal
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Should I keep slaughterer on demios?

fresh reef
waxen jackal
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I'm assuming uncanny is still pretty good on it

strong gulch
# echo turtle I'm seeing surge and creeping flames still kind of goated

Still goated. There are more playstyle options, but meta hasn't really changed. Gunker is stronger. The only main difference is I think is purg. If you're mechanically inclined, you can keep blaze away stacks up with LMB and quell with quell cancel then change back to RMB, but that's really needed because stacks build up quickly anyways.

echo turtle
waxen jackal
echo turtle
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Shred is fine, the damage increase from warp peril level is fine

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Deflector is also an option

waxen jackal
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I might do the damage from warp peril. Especially cuz I have SG with warp unbound

echo turtle
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The small damage loss in exchange for bullet protection is nice

waxen jackal
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Defense is for nerds

echo turtle
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With deflector, KD and a stam curio, you have so much survivability

waxen jackal
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JK I might try it out lol. I've never even considered it

echo turtle
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Which kind of matters more than maybe a 10% damage buff for shit that you overkill anyways

waxen jackal
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This might sound dumb but what is KD?

echo turtle
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Kinetic deflection

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Which is ironically why you really want a stam curio

waxen jackal
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Ok thanks. I'm still learning all the abbreviations

strong gulch
echo turtle
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For whatever reason, they coded the perils blocking to scale with total stam. So you take a 3 stam and it like doubles or more your block efficiency on perils. Then you have a juicy stam reservoir when your perils max

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It's to the point you can block almost indefinitely because the perils run down, which lets your stam charge back up

nocturne dust
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Empyric Resolve also works on KD

strong gulch
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It's peril resist and then stam

echo turtle
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Gotcha

waxen jackal
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I have my voidstrike that takes care of most things pretty well. But I might use demios for when I get cornered by an elite. Especially if I can get the shove/stab moves down like rhino was saying

echo turtle
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Good to know.

But yeah, the block efficiency on deflector augments your stam reservoir even more, which is kind of nice

nocturne dust
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now if only deflector blocked sniper shots/nets

echo turtle
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The alternative blessings down really augment DPS much when you really need it, which is why I don't really advocate for them anymore. Uncanny is the biggest factor on elites.

You already melt chaff or one shot them with light swings

echo turtle
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Did the blessings change with this new update?

halcyon gust
waxen jackal
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Assail helps me with snipers a lot. when they are within range anyway.

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Otherwise I'm fucked

halcyon gust
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Brain Rupture is a good Anti-sniper tool

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As soon as you start to BR your local vet will aimbot the sniper

echo turtle
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Oh, I see the surge staff now has surge

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So, Surge staff with nexus + surge seems nuts

Am I understanding this right?

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You rock a 40% crit chance, and your crits now proc twice?

scarlet rock
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Also whats the dump stat on a deomis for a perfect roll?

carmine agate
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surge surge LMB is also very good anti sniper tool

strong gulch
echo turtle
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Does anyone know how much damage charged smite adds to a heavy attack?

scarlet rock
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ohhh yeah yeah that tracks actually and makes sense

echo turtle
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The rich get richer jfc

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Does the + crit chance on Scriers linger after the ability runs out?

I've always been confused about that. The way it's worded could be taken to mean that just the damage bonus sticks around

strong gulch
echo turtle
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Ah weak

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So psykers have combat shotguns now, does that include the sweet sweet kantreal flame shotgun?

radiant frigate
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Yes

mossy oyster
echo turtle
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Sick, anyone doing a flachete kantreal crit build yet?

radiant frigate
plucky flax
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It's most noticeable on fast firing like on guns.

mossy oyster
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hmm

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I guess

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it doesnt feel that bad with agri revo / Dbarrel

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theres like what

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a 1 second differentiation from old patch to this current true aim

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(in terms of being able to stack it to 5)

strong gulch
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It's noticeable on assail and zarona revolver imo.

mossy oyster
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I know this is just confirmation bias from how ive been playing

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but its not that bad on assail either

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tbf

plucky flax
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Well it could proc multiple times before.

mossy oyster
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I still think its quite fast to stack

plucky flax
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On 1 assail.

mossy oyster
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yeah that was broken lmfao

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1 crit assail = instant true aim back

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I think its perfectly fine rn

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especially if you throw a few darts out while meleeing

strong gulch
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Mettle nerf/ bug plus true aim nerf together tho. I don't like that.

strong gulch
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but also true

late sapphire
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surge does not work on surge

mossy oyster
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yeah mettle getting shot in the legs

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feels bad

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but im keeping it for movement speed on crit

small whale
mossy oyster
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on LMB

late sapphire
strong gulch
small whale
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LMB spammers love it

strong gulch
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Oh my bad. I assume balls only was known. By bad on that.

small whale
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nah its a macro

late sapphire
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pedantics in chat

mossy oyster
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macro even 10x more 😴

late sapphire
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Can someone brain blast this guy

small whale
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its one of the highest damage builds on psyker

late sapphire
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If you use a quell cancel macro you are bad at the game sry

mossy oyster
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highest damage β‰  fun

desert yoke
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what's a psyker build that will actually get stuff done by themself?

I dont play psyker much but I feel like I see a lot of them who have to rely quite heavily on their team to follow up on their attacks and abilities
Is there a build where I can be self reliant, both in staying alive and in killing enenmies?

mossy oyster
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LMB only run or macro LMB run

late sapphire
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Only some sort of non ep smiker build needs others to follow up

small whale
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I see those macro LMB surge builds like every other malestrom game

mild junco
late sapphire
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What we do with macro users is we kick em at the extract

minor kiln
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I use a modified version of this build, but it handles nearly everything very well

mossy oyster
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good luck killing that entire horde with smite

late sapphire
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ep smite kills hordes no prob

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particularly with venting shriek

minor kiln
#

EP smite deletes hordes

late sapphire
#

it's actually the best chaff killing build

small whale
#

every staff is good at killing chaff

late sapphire
#

surge

small whale
#

i seen lmb surge psykers mowing down chaff

late sapphire
#

Macros are cheating and don't count

#

Normal lmb fullauto speed is about the same horde clear as a ds in melee

#

EP smite shriek extends the definition of chaff to all non-ogryn enemies

#

it's the most braindead straightforward carry build you just keep ep smiting and any amount of enemies falls over after a few sec

ornate hamlet
minor kiln
#

EP smite with Surge staff, easiest way to hard carry a run.

desert yoke
ornate hamlet
floral trellis
#

Relatively new psyker here, how useful is Charged strike?
The damage doesn’t seem huge and doesn’t appear to last very long to me

late sapphire
#

bad

minor kiln
#

terrible ability

floral trellis
#

Ok glad I wasn’t imagining that, thanks

desert yoke
late sapphire
#

highest floor is ogryn

analog agate
#

Agreed. I think Ogryn is harder

floral trellis
#

Poor Ogryns being absolutely barraged by gunners

minor kiln
#

You can handle any situation with EP smite and surge. Only issue is that your monstrosity damage isn't great.

mossy oyster
#

ogryn is just slow

#

im still giving it to soyker

#

for being a wet napkin

late sapphire
#

surge has ok monster damage

desert yoke
#

ogryn is my main and it was the easiest to pick up as a beginner for me

ornate hamlet
late sapphire
#

nah

minor kiln
desert yoke
late sapphire
#

if you run ds melee you can duel monstrosities if you're competent

mossy oyster
#

solo clutching as soyker no matter what build will still be more annoying than playing oggy (heavy toughness spam) zealot (free retry + healing) and vet (VoC toughness)

#

soyker doesnt get luxuries as crazy

#

besides smite turning everything off

late sapphire
ornate hamlet
#

smite and deflect are best utilities in the game

waxen jackal
#

So after some testing, demios fucks

late sapphire
#

VoC is the best utility ability

#

util psykers play the game wrong

ornate hamlet
late sapphire
#

focus on dps, the best cc is to just kill all enemies

echo turtle
# mossy oyster soyker doesnt get luxuries as crazy

It's definitely doable, I clutched a game where a person left assuming it was hopeless. One of the team mates that I got back up was kind of flabbergasted

Ogryn is kind of busted but they suffer when trying to deal with disablers, which are often clutch killers themselves

ornate hamlet
late sapphire
#

You are very mistaken

mossy oyster
#

its just the hardest on soyker

#

and ill keep thinking that way

echo turtle
late sapphire
#

stealth zealots have the easiest time clutching

#

stealth vets 2nd easiest

small whale
#

zealots are the clutch class wdym

radiant frigate
echo turtle
#

Yeah, but without stealth

#

Ogryn is like playing on a lower difficulty

analog agate
#

Clutching with ogryn is harder because you can only do so much much against special spam. Unless you are gun ogryn, kinda

ornate hamlet
#

Ogryn is easiest class

echo turtle
#

Learn the H2 shield bash repeat and you are legit unstoppable until you miss a net dodge

ornate hamlet
#

but it's also coolest

brisk vine
#

saying ogryn is easier than Zeleot is a wild take

late sapphire
#

h1 shield bash...

echo turtle
#

Oh yeah

#

My b

real silo
#

The surge blessing of the surge staff applies to the charger right click?

echo turtle
#

Typical ogryn player fucking up talkibg

waxen jackal
#

I've been using deflect and uncanny on demios like rino suggested. It's fantastic

ornate hamlet
late sapphire
#

monkey pfp checks out

mossy oyster
#

ogryn = heavy attack spam never ending toughness
zealot= 2nd try and free healing
vet = VoC toughness that can tank a crusher and stagger everything around him

radiant frigate
#

the class where you can facetank heavy spam a boss to death is harder than psyker?

mossy oyster
#

or if the vet is running infiltrate its even easier to get revives

#

soyker will continue to be the hardest/most annoying class to clutch with

#

despite your build

#

even if its EP smite

ornate hamlet
#

Ogryns heavy attack makes you immortal and loyal protector counters everything, including bosses

#

indomitable is literally cheating

analog agate
#

Yeah, until you run until multiple forms of disablers as ogryn

late sapphire
#

Waves of Specialists...

ornate hamlet
#

if you combine this 60 percent gunner damage redaction and 60 percent roughness generation speed, yeah

waxen jackal
#

I switched from leveling an orgryn to psyker, it was a shock lol

late sapphire
#

toughness regen speed on a clutch lol?

#

it does nothing without coherency

quartz barn
#

Clutching as ogryn is incredibly easy?

small whale
#

ogryns easier than zealot on lower difficulties but at malestrom and auric, zealot is the better one

analog agate
#

I feel you guys have strange clutch scenarios lmao. People usually go down because of special spam. Not hordes/gunners (for the most part)

small whale
#

solely due to how disablers are basically a one shot

quartz barn
#

As long as you can dodge trappers you are immortal

radiant frigate
mossy oyster
#

there isnt special spam when im in the lobby

#

special spam only happens after I die

ornate hamlet
mossy oyster
#

(and then the team follows 30 seconds after)

late sapphire
#

God i hate stealth zealots ngl

#

You have to pay attention to em

#

Three stealth zealot matches man

minor kiln
late sapphire
#

Worst dt experience ever

mossy oyster
ornate hamlet
quartz barn
#

Dont chase the stealth zealot pls

minor kiln
late sapphire
#

Anything happens, ever, and i hear i walk in the shadows x3 & all of the enemies turn and go to me

quartz barn
#

You only get yourself killed

desert yoke
#

is there a smite build based around killing enemies quickly with smite? lol

mossy oyster
#

EP flames

late sapphire
desert yoke
#

or just a good smite build, my reset after the update and ive forgotten it

analog agate
ornate hamlet
#

as a ogryn main, that stealth zealot always dying far away and I have to destroy an army to get him

mossy oyster
#

imagine getting a stealth player that ran off by themselves

waxen jackal
#

Woo! I got the going out with a bang achievement. Do to not paying attention to warp unbounds timer

radiant frigate
#

stealth psyker when?

mossy oyster
#

ill pick someone up who ran off if they're not a stealth shitter

lone ravine
stoic vessel
#

whats the diff between voidstrike & electrokinetic staff for m1 build?

quartz barn
#

Meanwhile you literally are supposed to run off when using stealth

radiant frigate
#

warp shroud modifier for sg

mossy oyster
lone ravine
late sapphire
late sapphire
quartz barn
#

But literally no one knows how to play stealth properly and crutches on the de aggro instead

desert yoke
late sapphire
#

so probably cdr

quartz barn
#

Abil regen ye

#

For shriek uptime

mossy oyster
#

my beloved says

#

krill

waxen jackal
#

Is demios a gateway drug to dueling sword?

radiant frigate
#

Yes

lone ravine
#

I use Deimos….

mossy oyster
#

its the gateway drug to knife

lone ravine
#

I’m at risk then

waxen jackal
#

We will see if it has a little kick, it does

ornate hamlet
quartz barn
#

All the deimos users i see in game are ass Sitgryn

radiant frigate
mossy oyster
late sapphire
mossy oyster
#

I love secret missions from ninja gaiden and DMC

#

how could you tell

#

(dies)

radiant frigate
#

actually this would be cool as an alternative to perils explosion

mossy oyster
#

if a soyker wakes up a DH they have to 1v1 it in the warp

quartz barn
#

Would be cool

lone ravine
radiant frigate
#

you just go to the shadow realm and have to fight your way out

late sapphire
#

1v1ed a dh today... those fuckers should be afraid of stairs really

quartz barn
#

More like ledges

quartz barn
#

Ik i played with you KEKW_ogryn

plucky flax
quartz barn
#

Dw we hard carried

plucky flax
#

I don't remember.

quartz barn
#

AM flawless

#

With the 2 scared oggies

#

Meanwhile funny blue ball

plucky flax
quartz barn
#

Been a while tho, im just a casual now

#

Still talk shit in disc all the same chadgryn

strong gulch
#

Just did a match with someone screaming my name. KEKW_ogryn

waxen jackal
#

But I just started using it lil

scarlet rock
#

What are the best traits on a deimos rn?

plucky flax
#

Uncanny for sure.

quartz barn
#

A lot of people just kill themselves with it

scarlet rock
#

or I guess illisi too

plucky flax
#

Slaughterer on illisi.

quartz barn
#

Locking themselves in place with the special at the wrong time

scarlet rock
#

not blessings the perks or what ever theyre called

waxen jackal
#

Oh yeah, I don't do that. I'm just bad in general

strong gulch
#

Also did gunners get suppression resistance or something because I cannot make them stop firing lately with funny balls?

They aren't green or anything.

quartz barn
#

They removed (?) the explosion stagger on void

strong gulch
#

I mean lmb

quartz barn
#

Or its a lot weaker / lower radius

#

Ye nvm i dont lmb KEKW_ogryn

waxen jackal
#

I would kill to have my buffs in the middle of the screen

plucky flax
#

They helped me out of the corner by kicking me.

#

Thank you based teammates. PraygeA

strong gulch
#

I just did a mission to get more ordos so I could get a mk 3 knife because I deleted mine only to remember that I can just changed the mark now. 😭

quartz barn
strong gulch
#

move tech

plucky flax
#

Deimos with cleave talent was doing work tho.

#

And mm assail swapping.

late sapphire
#

Imagine standing in the elevator and complaining the other guy is taking long instead of just going to get them

quartz barn
#

Ye pubs are a lot worse now

late sapphire
#

That's what vc is there for, though

plucky flax
#

I tried to get to them but it was impossible.

late sapphire
#

Grabbing the laggard and then shitting on the idiots hard enough they leave

quartz barn
#

Vc is there for people telling me im bad without even doing anything Sitgryn

late sapphire
#

So true

quartz barn
#

"We need more ogryns"

strong gulch
#

Charged Strikes for knife push attack spam is funny.

plucky flax
#

I can agree post patch pubs in auric board/maelstrom are super sus.

#

If I test meme builds it becomes extra hard. NOOO

mossy oyster
#

thats why you get a strong build thats fun

#

its how I solve shitty pubs usually as a gunker or if im using scriers void

plucky flax
#

I don't want to spam surge creeping flames every round.

plucky flax
#

I like deimos assail recon las tbh.

mossy oyster
#

I can not combine Fswords with scriers

plucky flax
#

But it's harder to clutch due to gazer instead of creeping flames.

waxen jackal
#

God I hate ragers so much

mossy oyster
#

I always take the mobility talent so having that just go to waste without using a DS or knife

#

feels like butt

plucky flax
#

I tried ds4 with it but the horde clear is not great.

mossy oyster
#

I think its better now cause warp split

#

but id still rather use a mk6

plucky flax
#

Yeah for sure.

#

With the mm talent assail weaving clear much better.

mossy oyster
#

yeah its crazy strong

plucky flax
#

But deimos with uncanny slaughterer + cleave talent makes it clear horde really well.

mossy oyster
#

gunker flows on a better cycle now

#

cause of that MM tweak

#

(even if it is a bit broke)

late sapphire
plucky flax
#

1 assail at near max peril can kill 5 + chaffs.

analog agate
#

Are you guys finding you don’t bother with plasteel/diam anymore in matches? I was a packrat before the update, but now I am finding I don’t look anymore

plucky flax
late sapphire
#

with ethereal shards and warp splitting its exactly 5 chaff

plucky flax
#

Stack to 5 times up to 15% damage.

upper sun
late sapphire
#

Oh yeah it's a good talent yeah

mossy oyster
#

MM is strong asf

#

was strong before

#

stronger now

plucky flax
#

I tried illisi* with uncanny slaughterer too. It's fine to fight 1 or 2 crushers.

broken carbon
#

i ran into an assail user macro quell canceling

plucky flax
#

But against 4+ it becomes hard. nooooo

broken carbon
#

it was also a purg staff user

plucky flax
#

So I went back to deimos.

broken carbon
#

i fucking HATE PURG USERS

broken carbon
#

asked hehehehhehehehehehehehhehehe

mossy oyster
#

exactly

#

now shut up

#

id use Fswords on scriers but

late sapphire
#

Now now kids if you don't stop fighting you will be made to sit in the smiker corner

mossy oyster
#

mobility is so dog ass

strong gulch
plucky flax
#

That's also why I use deimos.

#

For the longer dodge.

mossy oyster
#

its a big waste of the scriers speed talent

upper sun
plucky flax
#

When I pop gazer to fight maulers/crushers on deimos I actually just light spam.

mossy oyster
#

id try deimos with scriers gunker

#

but

#

mk6 supremacy

upper sun
#

im funmaxxing rn

late sapphire
#

ds4 sg is peak sorry

broken carbon
late sapphire
#

deimos sucks

broken carbon
#

i just

#

guh

upper sun
#

damn........

#

blaze away

late sapphire
#

Look ma im on tv

upper sun
#

theres a 30 minute video of pygex holding blaze away stacks for 90% of the game

#

like

#

unironically

broken carbon
#

eugh

#

why did psyker get buffed in all the ways that arent even cool

upper sun
#

you can keep them up while u switch from lmb to rmb

#

its kinda hard tho

#

idk how he does it

broken carbon
#

no brainburst changes, just a bunch of raw damage buffs

mossy oyster
#

I bet its so hard

plucky flax
#

Give back old assail with super fast charge and uncanny weaving + handcannon nooooo

upper sun
#

assail+uncanny bad
blaze away on purge good

mossy oyster
#

must require 80% usage of your brain

upper sun
#

HUH

upper sun
mossy oyster
#

ive seen you jump and walk off ascension riser (on heresy)

#

im surprised you got soyker to level 30

#

honestly

#

without having your brain short circuit

upper sun
#

huh

#

psyker is 3 buttons

#

w lmb and rmb

#

zealot has to dodge sometimes

#

its veri hard

mossy oyster
#

reject all soyker builds

#

run gunker 120 toughness

upper sun
#

no

rancid geyser
upper sun
#

if i wanted guns id play vet

strong gulch
#

I'm constantly forgetting my buttons and jumping fences. I won't change.

mossy oyster
#

vet dont shoot warp bullets

upper sun
#

neither do we

upper sun
#

beg

mossy oyster
#

enemies explode with warp energy when I kill them

strong gulch
mossy oyster
#

ive seen

#

a few of the sweatier siblings

#

have 90 toughness builds

#

and I think they make sense (if im thinking about them in the right way)

rancid geyser
#

then try explaining why you need the ammo more than vet

mossy oyster
#

considering you have a bunch of toughness regen spam talents and they're % based maybe lower toughness is better

rancid geyser
#

you dont

mossy oyster
#

so you fill the bar back up faster

#

IF thats how I think it works

strong gulch
mossy oyster
#

well im talking like talent maxxing and probably stamina and 1 21% HP

zinc phoenix
#

trying to grind weapons on damnation is a bitch

mossy oyster
zinc phoenix
#

i get people who manage to die as voc iron will veterans

#

like how do you die with that build

#

and here i am trying to carry with a fucking level 1 knife

strong gulch
#

YOu mean real builds and not funny ball maxing.

mossy oyster
#

I think 90 toughness gunker is

#

probably the sweatiest level of min max for it

#

might try it out sometime

#

run HP and stamina curios

west stream
#

I like how if I throw scryers gaze on my gunker and dive into horde swinging I cant die

rancid geyser
west stream
#

peril is kept low by cleave and toughness keeps topping up

#

Though, theres always risk of not seeing a mauler and becoming psycake

strong gulch
#

The quell talents around SG are bananas.

zinc phoenix
west stream
#

I need to try more guns for gunker tho

#

I have a good laspistol and a decent revolver

mossy oyster
#

use shotguns/lasguns

#

agri revo and DBarrel

zinc phoenix
#

its great. get mad at work thing then join game and get mad at that

rancid geyser
#

oof

#

is game brother, why you have to be mad?

mossy oyster
#

because people can be invested in something

upper sun
#

stop having feelings staregryn

mossy oyster
#

nope thats why ive been having more fun than you

#

fake gloriana enjoyer

waxen jackal
#

I would trade one of my fingers for some datamantine

upper sun
#

no

#

go play the game

tame venture
#

Imagine if there was a cash shop option for resources

#

Some people would

upper sun
#

no

#

ban

waxen jackal
#

Lol I am. I just can't get ahead. I don't mind tho. I used to have that problem with plasteel.now I have thousands

plucky flax
#

Aye.

#

I have 200k+ plasteels now and only 100k diamante. whatthefuck_heresy

upper sun
#

40k plasteel ~5k diamantine

#

i build a few weapoins from zero

#

i wonder if i should build a new pickaxe mine is 80 80 80 78 62

#

might need that extra 2% cleave rite?

full panther
#

I haven't played psyker in ages, seems like the soulblaze build with the inferno staff is pretty strong right now?

plucky flax
#

Nah.

full panther
#

is the nomanus force staff still alright?

plucky flax
#

It's not damage stat.

#

Unless it's cleave damage? But even so.

pure junco
#

got my auric survivor title playing psyker the other day

#

god i love this class

analog agate
#

Let me answer anyways. Yes. All staves are good

#

But some are better than others

full panther
#

the lightning staff

plucky flax
#

Ah yes it's OP if you build creeping flames spam with it.

analog agate
#

It was my second favorite staff before the new update. I’ll continue using it when flurry is fixed

vestal fulcrum
#

DD Assail with Warp Splitting is absolutely nutty

#

Assail is my favourite force staff whatthefuck_heresy

mossy oyster
#

DBarrel and agri revolver are my favorite staves

full panther
#

wait what's broken about flurry rn?

radiant frigate
#

force swords are my favorite staff

analog agate
ashen schooner
#

anyone have a link to the bolt pistol build, finally remaking all my shit and forget everything it needs

fallow dock
#

Hey guys so I’m looking at my smite build, I have empowered psionics but obv I wouldn’t be activating my blitz as often as if I were using brain burst or assail, so to u guys is it worth it getting Charged Up or could I use the talent point elsewhere?

radiant frigate
fallow dock
#

Ye

radiant frigate
#

if so then yeah definitely get it, because the charge does not disappear until you finish your cast

#

and then you have 0 charges after a cast

#

so your next cast is garbage unless you kill another elite through some other means inbetween casts

fallow dock
#

Ahh ok I haven't personally had to cast back to back really since I have Empyric Resolve and Venting Shriek but that's good to know

zinc phoenix
#

Empyric resolve is starting to feel like the iron will of this class

radiant frigate
#

disagree

#

iron will is useful

#

(always useful)

#

empyric resolve can be actively detrimental

analog agate
#

It think it can be good for SG builds. For WS builds? Eh, it is take it or leave it for a lot of people

radiant frigate
#

WS as in.. warp siphon? warp splitting? wenting shriek?

analog agate
#

Sorry, so used to only one. warp siphon. I realize it is on the way there so technically a SG build uses warp siphon too. I should specify non SG builds that use warp siphon I am still undecided

radiant frigate
#

i guess it can be useful if you do something silly like sg surge

mossy oyster
#

having to path towards ER with SG

#

sounds

#

ugly

#

real ugly

radiant frigate
#

extremely niche however because that's a peril hog ability and peril hog staff

radiant frigate
#

we hates it

analog agate
#

Well, I don’t use either πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ. I have been using it with blaze blast and been successful though

#

BB. Blaze blast. Brain Burst. I wish they just left names alone

plucky flax
#

Flurry is not broken if you do full charge on surge staff.

#

But if you do minimum charge then yes it's broken.

#

Also don't play blue stim with surge that's super broken.

split lance
vagrant sapphire
#

How exactly does smite work? Do both versions do the same damage? Because I always feel main does more damage than charged.

plucky flax
#

Yeah it still increases your charge time significantly. And with full charge your animation doesn't get stuck from the previous cast.

jovial juniper
#

Does that help?

vagrant sapphire
blissful solar
#

I'm gonna go with no given what he said

analog agate
#

Should be easy enough to test in meat grinder

vagrant sapphire
#

Good point

zinc phoenix
#

Left click is pretty nice for quickly pushing bursters

#

So many times I’ve saved people who were about to get splatted with a last second left click smite push

analog agate
vagrant sapphire
#

They do same damage

vagrant sapphire
zinc phoenix
vagrant sapphire
#

Stunning small groups

analog agate
#

I so rarely use it so I guess I can’t talk much about smite though.

lethal lagoon
#

62 mobility?

#

In this economy?

upper sun
#

so tru so tru

#

80 cleave is gonna be life changing

#

idk how i even played with 78

analog agate
#

I love the branx.

rancid geyser
#

have fun grinding

waxen jackal
#

I like the demios special more than ilisi

blissful solar
#

deimos is the best imo

#

being able to left click to stab is so useful I can't bear to try the others

tame venture
#

Iliad is good to have powered up delete sweeps

blissful solar
#

that was what made me want to use it but it's a bit slow compared to the instant speed of the deimos left click + block spamming

little pier
#

What is the god roll perk/blessing combo for inferno staff?

plucky flax
#

Flak + something (I like unyielding) then nexus and blaze away.

rancid geyser
#

i perfer penetrating

#

infernoe doesnt stakc fast

rigid sky
#

It seems to stack pretty fast to me

#

And you can keep it stacked by spamming low charge pulses

little pier
#

I thought it stacked fast enough

split lance
#

bottom is standard blaze trauma so not sending full build but whats best for these

#

ive seen a combo of em a lot

little pier
#

Thats all you need

#

Battle Meditation is really good though imo

#

I dont even use soul stealer but I don't mean that in a way like it's not good.

analog agate
#

Is BM a thing now because it aids in the non stop casting of inferno?

#

I haven’t actually watched Pygex’s video and don’t play inferno staff so I don’t know

rancid geyser
#

battle meditation on inferno staff is nice if you have space for it

#

i take it over kinetic deflection

upper sun
#

btw what do we think about this for revolver illisi?

mossy oyster
#

warp rider is less valuable if you're running peril quelling talents

#

TTS/Crack of Bone

upper sun
#

actually yeah you're right

#

maybe crit aura?

mossy oyster
#

try this

ornate hamlet
#

I wouldn't personally recommend warp rider with crack of bone, yeah

#

You're gonna be quelling a lot

mossy oyster
ornate hamlet
#

Something I would consider is replacing the peril on non-warp ranged crit thing which name I forgot

#

With KD

#

And then get surety of arms right below it for faster reload speed on the revolver

mossy oyster
#

I used surety of arms on agri

#

didnt feel a difference personally

ornate hamlet
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If you're getting PC, you could also pull one point away from one of the SG nodes into souldrinker

mossy oyster
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Irosk was testing earlier

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and he said hes pretty sure soulblaze needs to kill the target

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to proc souldrinker

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free point to use

ornate hamlet
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It's got a bit of an odd activation since apparently it needs to be your soulblaze

mossy oyster
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if you're running gunker you arent really relying on soulblaze to kill things

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its a nice addition

ornate hamlet
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From my testing, it seems to work when you kill stuff with other damage while they're under your soulblaze

mossy oyster
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to have DoT damage though

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thats under the impression I was on

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if it does work without blaze needing to be the killing blow

ornate hamlet
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But I think it was Irosk that showed a video of it straight up refusing to activate

mossy oyster
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keep souldrinker

rancid geyser
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i can finally try a fully kitted staff now

mossy oyster
ornate hamlet
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We narrowed it down to either needing to be your soulblaze, or a display bug

rancid geyser
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wish me luck in auric!

ornate hamlet
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Since display bugs aren't unheard of and we get DD's working half of the time

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And also because 5% crit chance is something we don't really see well in the middle of the game

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Maybe souldrinker could be tracked on video by checking the toughness regen

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To see if the display is bugged or if it's really the thing about it needing to be your soulblaze

rancid geyser
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you need soulblaze to proc it but it shows up 100% of the time for me

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either inferno staff kills or from wildfire/perilous combustion

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blazing spirit*

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kills from the inferno staff last hitting procs it too*

lethal lagoon