psyker-class

[nocturne dust]

imagine getting boss damage on psyker

illegal

[potent echo]

Just not on the staves

[gusty canopy]

Unironically that's m ybrain burst build

[late sapphire]

Why seers presence though

[potent echo]

Maybe one day

[late sapphire]

Do you mean scriers gaze?

[gusty canopy]

Yeha i meant Scriers not seers

[nocturne dust]

beam staff when

[late sapphire]

sg dd

[gusty canopy]

Seers presence is for my Anit Elite build

[potent echo]

Beam staff boss dps was so degenerate lmao

[mighty cipher]

Kinetic Resonance Lmao

[tame venture]

When GW does a 180 and stops being evil

[gusty canopy]

God i hate how this is not what i mean. XD

[potent echo]

Doesnt really help much honestly, rather go crit or cooldown

[nocturne dust]

Lmao, bro thinks BB is good boss damage 💀

[potent echo]

BB still loses to ds4 btw lol

[nocturne dust]

Come back when you can 2-hit the boss with a knife

[potent echo]

Even with all the buffs

[late sapphire]

btw @nocturne dust

[mighty cipher]

Cause I’m either top damage or they killed it before I even got a lock.

[late sapphire]

i checked and for some reason 60-80 cleave damage brings the h1 on target 1 from 330 to 360 base dmg (on infected/unarmored...)

[potent echo]

[nocturne dust]

[mighty cipher]

Especially against Beasts of Nurgle since I don’t have to worry about hitting weakpoint. I just lock on an start hacking away at its HP.

[nocturne dust]

If you're top dmg with BB you need to realize your teammates may be ill, and should thus be summarily executed to prevent Nurgle's spread.

[late sapphire]

Actually no i dont believe the attack breakdown

My bad

It's actually ass

[nocturne dust]

isn't the number change for... not carapace?

[rigid mortar]

I know psyker is squishy but what curios can boost my survivability? Also is more health better or toughness? Also from the last time I played back during November of last year I was kinda tanky and could take hits. Maybe it’s a skill issue

[late sapphire]

guh

my bad 2

[nocturne dust]

lol

[nocturne dust]

imo toughness is better unless you run Empyric Resolve, and may still be a not-bad choice

[late sapphire]

vs infected on patk bodyshot its 68 46 vs 63 43

[mighty cipher]

It’s good damage because it’s a consistent drain.

It’s three steps. Activate resonance. Look at boss. Hold M1. Profit.
All done from a safe distance as well.
Not every team has some sort of insane boss blasting option, so BR’s consistency is a godsend at times.

[late sapphire]

So i guess it is accurate

[rigid mortar]

So how would I get my toughness up? Also is there a way to reduce toughness damage?

[nocturne dust]

Purgatus is more damage more consistently

[late sapphire]

So anyways

cleave damage dump stat

i re-changed my mind

[nocturne dust]

lies

[late sapphire]

10% damage vs infected and unarmored

vs 5% movespeed or so

[nocturne dust]

Imagine caring about movespeed

[late sapphire]

i ❤️ movespeed

You know how it is man

If the pack of chaos spawns are chasing us two they're gonna get you first

And i with my mighty 0.07 sprint speed advantage will be miles away

[late sapphire]

toughness to survive, one 3stam to run away

you keep it up by taking some of the nodes at the top of the tree

7.5% toughness on kill is pretty self explanatory

The main thing is of course not getting hit

[rigid mortar]

Also tried zealot and I really like how the knife feels on there but on psyker it doesn’t feel the same. Like the speed and just stabbing. Is there someway to get that feeling with psyker?

[late sapphire]

You should try out the dueling sword, on both classes

[rigid mortar]

I can’t remember I think I had like two bars of health or something and I’m guessing that’s pretty bad

[late sapphire]

Two wounds is normal for psykers

[jovial juniper]

That's standard

[rigid mortar]

I used to like dueling sword but it just doesn’t feel the same. I could have sworn it had better horde clear

[sacred crane]

SIBLINGS what is a fun sword that makes me feel like a badass fancy swordsman
also outfit recommendations by chance

[late sapphire]

Dueling sword horde clear has always been ass

[rigid mortar]

Should I bump up my health then?

[late sapphire]

On zealot it's manageable because of all of the attack speed, damage and crit buffs

[sacred crane]

I recommend toughness for psyker

[late sapphire]

Upping your health will not give you more wounds

[rigid mortar]

Dueling sword or a knife but I’m still trying to test how knife feels

[sacred crane]

also wound curious are very eeeehhhh unless you are a certain zealot build

[late sapphire]

THE fancy sword is ofc the dueling sword

[sacred crane]

which one feels fanciest

errr

[late sapphire]

But the devil claw parry is also kinda fancy

[sacred crane]

looks coolest

[late sapphire]

I like the mark 4 because of the stabbing heavy attacks but supposedly the lights look robotic

Just try them out, you can swap back n force for free

[nocturne dust]

ah, but you see, with my 10% boost in damage I'll be able to kill the chaos spawns just quick enough thanks to not having to bother swapping to my staff to deal with the horde

[sacred crane]

knife is kinda of a great versitile weapon
good horde clear
great single target
best mobility

its a jack of all trades weapon, like the chainsword or shovels

[late sapphire]

good horde clear lel

[nocturne dust]

Knife is okay at horde clear if you bleed

[sacred crane]

riposte + any bleed

[cedar sable]

hows the force sword nowadays?

[sacred crane]

very strong

[nocturne dust]

Illisi is best horde clearer, Deimos is 2nd best single-target killer

DS4 is better at single targets, but worse for hordes than Deimos

[sacred crane]

Deimos for single target
Illisi for horde clear and versitility
Nobody talks about the ugly cousin

[cedar sable]

tyty all

[nocturne dust]

You could say the Obscurus is... obscure

[sacred crane]

ALSO FORCE SWORD HAS AMAZING DEFENSE

[rigid mortar]

So getting more toughness is by picking the right perks and do curios effect this as well? Sounds dumb but I haven’t gotten the chance to play in a couple of days

[nocturne dust]

[sacred crane]

NOBODY TALKS ABOUT FORCE SWORD SHOVE LIKE

[late sapphire]

force sword shove is a crutch idk

Just run away

[nocturne dust]

The force sword shove is eh

[sacred crane]

you can go bowling with pox walkers

[nocturne dust]

It messes you up for poxbursters if you don't time it right instead of just spamming the first push

[nocturne dust]

I use voidstrike for that

[sacred crane]

they just explode

[nocturne dust]

Indeed

I hit them with a bowling ball

they explode

[sacred crane]

Ngl the mk2 dueling sword looking kinda sexy

as in looks

[late sapphire]

turn it into a candy cane

[sacred crane]

i wanna make like a fancy psyker build complete with looks and abilities

[nocturne dust]

The red skin for dueling sword doesn't really look like a candy cane

same for the crusher

[sacred crane]

knife skin:

[nocturne dust]

Knife deserved it

[late sapphire]

I think the best feeling in darktide is grabbing a dueling sword and dueling a plague ogryn

When you get it down pat it's so enjoyable

[sacred crane]

ima use mark 2 sword for fancy psyker because it looks cooler and doesnt seem like an overpowered powerhouse like ds4

[nocturne dust]

Nah, the best feeling in Darktide is going bowling down a long, narrow hallway and then annihilating a pack of crushers with the same shot

[late sapphire]

So true

[late sapphire]

Yeah ds2 has sweepier lights and one heavy from the ds4 and one heavy from the ds5

[jovial juniper]

Same H1

[late sapphire]

You can still cycle the h1 to do good damage but it's not as strong dps wise as the ds4

[sacred crane]

its cooler because it has cooler attacks

anyways, what blessings do i bring again

of course uncanny

[late sapphire]

uncanny riposte

[ivory path]

This is fun but I definitely need that buff timer mod

[sacred crane]

WAIT what is a very fancy pew pew weapon for psyker

[nocturne dust]

thrust my beloved

[tame venture]

Repost always seems to be funky on if it wants to activate

[wind spruce]

It's super consistent in my experience

[tame venture]

Recon lasgun, Las piss,

[wind spruce]

And activate off all sorts of ranged attacks too

[nocturne dust]

Force Lasgun when

[sacred crane]

maybe las pistol
recon seems to soldier-like

[elder glade]

I now want a force lasgun

[sacred crane]

IVE BEEN ASKING FOR A PSYKER GUN FOR MONTHS

[tame venture]

It's suits gunker very well, especially the fast fire rate one with infernis

[late sapphire]

las pistol is fancy, even has a psyker specific special attack

[shy pewter]

I'm trying a build where you just spam the EK staff primary

Its very strong but omg is it annoying

[late sapphire]

ek staff... surge?

[nocturne dust]

lmb spam is good yes

[shy pewter]

"pew pew pewp ewp epew pew pew"

[nocturne dust]

annoying also yes

[sacred crane]

ok, now i need to select abilities and outfit, especially outfit
i wanna be like the product of james bond and john wick

[shy pewter]

Is it as annoying for everyone else as it is myself? I can probably live through it but if its this obnoxious to everyone its not worth it

[nocturne dust]

Me with my free fashion where I can be prisoner or officer

[shy pewter]

Its quite funny to go brrrrr tho

[late sapphire]

Worse, when several people do it, it blots out all sounds

[upper galleon]

It’s only annoying if you use a macro

[late sapphire]

Each ball is a sound source and darktide can only have so many

[upper galleon]

Aka, not just annoying it’s risking your account

[shy pewter]

Naw I dont macro

[sacred crane]

isnt it like canon psykers are forced to dress up

[late sapphire]

Macro to quell cancel maybe, macro to full auto no

[upper galleon]

Doing what you can naturally is fine and anyone who isn’t an idiot should be able to tell if someone is using full auto or just clicking vs using the quell macro

[upper galleon]

I am specifically referring to that macro

The quell cancel

[nocturne dust]

Have you seen our Inquisition? We follow like 0 rules

[late sapphire]

Manually quell canceling is not difficult, though

[upper galleon]

Like in my experience you can tell if someone is legit or not

[upper galleon]

There is a big difference between someone macro’ing it vs someone doing it naturally

[sacred crane]

me seeing a level 17 psyker named "averagefecesslinger"

[late sapphire]

True

Though i have been accused of cheating for just spamming lmb before

[upper galleon]

Yes but the average person is an idiot and half of then are dumber than average

It’s really obvious with the noise and dps output and just, way more balls since the macro can get it down to like, 15ms

Or something stupid i forgot

[sacred crane]

This is current build for fancy psyker:
las pistol
mk2 dueling sword
assail
scriers
crit chance
dd

[nocturne dust]

They should just remove quell cancelling

[upper galleon]

They did once lol

Idk why it suddenly returned

With a vengeance

[nocturne dust]

One of the devs is secretly a dirty quell canceller

[austere warren]

Psyker casino no give duelling sword. sadge.

[potent echo]

What's a soyker casino

[austere warren]

Melk and robot vendor.

The hell is a soyker?

[wind spruce]

But... it takes like 10 buys at most to get the dump stat you want?!

[orchid shadow]

The just need to put a cap on the fire rate if they want to do that. The quell cancel is there presumably for responsiveness to not lock you too long into an action.

[plucky flax]

Nah you do you screw your teammates

[fresh reef]

fatshark seal of quality

[warm bolt]

man i SUCK with Psyker

I feel like an actual glass cannon lmao

[spice veldt]

if you haven't split your dodge/jump keybind yet, i recommend doing that

[shy pewter]

Psyker is definitely the squishiest class, at least in my experience. Maybe there's some megachad psykers out there

[patent jacinth]

I would die horribly

[gusty canopy]

So Voidstrike staff is best for Disrupt Destiny and Scryer's Gaze. Right?

[patent jacinth]

No, that right is still held by mk5 IAG

I personally have no idea how it (voidstrike) preforms on that build but I know that forsaken gun tops every staff and most other weapons for that build

[gusty canopy]

gotcha.

Was wondering because im trying to go penance hunting and one of them is maintaining 15 stacks of Disrupt Destiny or more for 1800 seconds

and Assail doesnt trigger WPK

[patent jacinth]

I would say run the mk5 IAG

[gusty canopy]

which... i dont have yet.

[patent jacinth]

It’s a hungry little creature but it can handle everything below carapace at a frankly stupid speed

Bosses take like, 3 mags

[plucky flax]

WPK?

[gusty canopy]

weak point kill

[plucky flax]

For the 3 stacks?

[gusty canopy]

ya

[plucky flax]

It does for me.

[gusty canopy]

well only when i aim them, and only on the first target

everything else doesnt make it work.

which is weird because it should.

[patent jacinth]

Deny destiny suffers from being untestable in psyk and having a tendency of not showing up of buff bar half the time

[nocturne dust]

disrupt

disrupt destiny

[patent jacinth]

Deny is cooler

Shush

[plucky flax]

It works on left click too.

No need to aim.

[nocturne dust]

You're right, I'm denying you anyway

[gusty canopy]

???

WEird.

[wind spruce]

Aim slightly above enemies heads with assail (left and right click) for more consistent headshots

[nocturne dust]

Aiming is for filthy non-psykers

[plucky flax]

Just spam assail more and you get DD stacks.

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-kazuma-kiryu-pissed-off-gif-14586175

[gusty canopy]

alrighty. Thank you!

[patent jacinth]

You also coincidentally get 10 seconds of assail spam after maxing peril in scriers

[jovial juniper]

Fucking UI bug

[gusty canopy]

Also this i knew and i love it because it increases based on my peril

[jovial juniper]

Denying my 25 stacks

RAAAGH

[patent jacinth]

10 seconds to throw double cleave assail for free is no fucking joke

[plucky flax]

Only veri pro players use 25 stacks.

(not me)

[patent jacinth]

Running it psionics instead of DD only makes it sillier

[gusty canopy]

Fair enough

[patent jacinth]

Because now you can be throwing 12 cleave shards for free

I tried to test how much stuff I could kill in psyk versus a poxwalker blob with empowered blitz + gaze and I ran out of targets before I maxed

It’s just insane

[gusty canopy]

Amazing

[unborn dirge]

Be careful when using scirers gaze with assail. you need to wait for the stacks to actually start going down after you reach 100 peril. If you dont wait a split sec there is a change youll throw it before the 10sec proc

[plucky flax]

Only veri pro players can use warp unbound (not me)

[jovial juniper]

Bistol makes it easier to stack

Too bad I'm running a bad build

[unborn dirge]

I use the assail for trash enemies and the surge force for specialists and elites

[patent jacinth]

Assail does everything up to unyielding and carapace

[gusty canopy]

also can confirm with the Bistol. It's my old crit build.

[patent jacinth]

If I can’t be troubled to pull my gun assail just goes at everything

[unborn dirge]

lmao

random bs go

[patent jacinth]

There’s also really neat tech with assail

Active shards will track your right click target

So you can left click a whole bunch then pick something you want dead

[gusty canopy]

that's awesome!

[patent jacinth]

Active shards also track your cursor to an extent

[plucky flax]

Surge assail

[unborn dirge]

yeah, and they also follow where you point the cursor

[patent jacinth]

The only limits is their turn angle and the fact they can’t turn back twoards you tracking like this

[unborn dirge]

they kinda can but it takes a sec

[patent jacinth]

If shards fly past something you can’t get them to come back very easily

[near wyvern]

Interesting, I will add this to Ateneum after I have confirmed it

[slate oasis]

man it's super cool when you backfill into a 100% doomed train mission

[unborn dirge]

yeah, ive done that a couple of times

[plucky flax]

Miss me with that train.

[unborn dirge]

my main gripe is when people stay in one place to fight a horde instead of pushing

[vernal agate]

Question: Why is blast radius a dump stat on voidstrike?

[patent jacinth]

Train is fun when it works

[lusty brook]

Because

[patent jacinth]

When it doesn’t it just feels terrible

[unborn dirge]

bc the difference is so small

[near wyvern]

The blast radius doesn't really scale, but for flurry nexus void the dump stat is warp resist now

[unborn dirge]

if you look at the stat in inspect, you can see the min/max of said stat

also that

[near wyvern]

I haven't updated Atheneum info yet cause there is so much to do

[vernal agate]

Okay thanks! Is there any difference in the skill tree for surge voidstrike VS Flurry voidstrike?>

[potent echo]

Not charge rate?

[unborn dirge]

charge rate difference can be a whole 1.5 seconds

[near wyvern]

Video coming up today

[near wyvern]

Yes

[unborn dirge]

with blast radius the biggest difference is the total blast radius (2-4m)which does stagger, as apposed to the epicenter (1.5-2.5m)which does actual damage

that along with not having any way to make it better why blast radius is the dumb stat

[atomic swan]

I mean i cant stagger dead enemies

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/panda-animated-lazy-sleepy-cute-gif-6836156041740767298

guess which one triggered 2 daemons

[unborn dirge]

PSyKErS cAnT caRRy

lmao, some people you cant fix

[shy pewter]

Psykers can hard carry, I just struggle to clutch as a psyker lol

[nocturne dust]

It was very stressful, psykers can't carry 😭

[gusty canopy]

I could have told ya psykers could carry aand i barely play the game consistently

My Brainburst Anti-Elite build can do so quite well

[unborn dirge]

ive carried several times in auric

[nocturne dust]

Literally spawned in and watched bonbon eat the only other living teammate

[gusty canopy]

i just hate how melee gets.

i havent played Vermintide so i dont know hwo to optimize it

[patent jacinth]

Play zealot, they have a lot of talents and things that enforce good melee play

[gusty canopy]

Next on my list

[patent jacinth]

Specifically duelist and second wind

[unborn dirge]

honestly, its gonna sound weird, but learn to incorporate alt attack into your chain

[patent jacinth]

Dodges are key

Blocking is quite almost irrelevant in DT as apposed to VT

[unborn dirge]

yeah, only upside is how fast psyker stamina regens

[nocturne dust]

Nah, blocking is super useful at times

[gusty canopy]

that and their toughness too

[patent jacinth]

“Quite almost”

[unborn dirge]

nah dodging is better

[gusty canopy]

They can regen toughness like no one's business

[unborn dirge]

especially with nimble blessing and repost

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/like-a-sir-drink-meme-gif-16956131415775229969

[patent jacinth]

I agree that blocks are useful sometimes but not nearly as much as they were in VT

Removing the ability to block overheads hurts a lot

[unborn dirge]

just dodge

[atomic swan]

In Darktide your mobility is so good

[unborn dirge]

opens the enemy up for an open strike

[plucky flax]

Zealot and psyker can solo clutch really well. Vet just prevents team from ever getting into a shit situation by spamming shouts so we don't talk about them.

[patent jacinth]

Shout is lame anyway

[unborn dirge]

facts

[nocturne dust]

Hm, idk how it compares to VT, I didn't like VT as much and stuck to lower difficulties. Didn't play long enough to really get good.

[atomic swan]

You can just keep your distances instead of blocking

[unborn dirge]

shout is awesome

[plucky flax]

P sword P gun P shout

90% of vets run it.

[nocturne dust]

The P build

[unborn dirge]

just dont run res shout

[patent jacinth]

Most weapons don’t reach 5 dodges and overheads are blockable by everything

[patent jacinth]

It’s boring

[nocturne dust]

overheads being blockable would be nice

[patent jacinth]

I want my actions to have possible negative consequences

[unborn dirge]

not in damnation

[unborn dirge]

😂

[nocturne dust]

This man shoots barrels

while the team is standing next to them

[unborn dirge]

this guy shoots pox bursters

[clear heath]

barrel your teammates off the map to help preserve the difficulty of the game

[patent jacinth]

Woman, and yes I do

[plucky flax]

Create your own difficulty.

[patent jacinth]

Need that situational awareness progress somehow

[plucky flax]

Wait you guys die? Let me clutch.

[patent jacinth]

I won’t let morals stop me

[unborn dirge]

this woman is out of hand

[patent jacinth]

It’s fine I don’t actually OOB people

[gusty canopy]

Still love my Gun Them Down Boltor Vet

[patent jacinth]

Just give them a short flight to anywhere else

[gusty canopy]

Anyway

[clear heath]

I don't want teammates
I want spectators

[plucky flax]

Bolter is really strong now but ammo is still not as good as plamsa and the switch time is still slow.

I think plasma is still the best gun by far.

[patent jacinth]

Plasma is a point and click adventure

[unborn dirge]

bro were in psyker section

[nocturne dust]

Honestly, most impressive maneuver I ever saw was a vet using a barrel to launch himself away from the pack of crushers about to crunch him

[unborn dirge]

only cool kids

[gusty canopy]

Anyway, i still loge my psyker so much. ^^

[patent jacinth]

We love the tactical GTFO barrel

[gusty canopy]

I just wish i knew more about the game

[patent jacinth]

Think I’ve seen a clip of someone dodging a burster with one

[plucky flax]

Psyker is my main nearly lvl 750. Next closest is zealot at 666.

[unborn dirge]

sick

[plucky flax]

Top 1% psyker,.

[ember orbit]

Which button to quell peril?

PC

[nocturne dust]

I don't play this game enough to get near those levels

[atomic swan]

reload button

[unborn dirge]

R

gotta hold it

[patent jacinth]

Yeah my highest is like a little under 140 (vet)

[ember orbit]

Ty

[unborn dirge]

i used to know my level, but the updates keep messing with the mod files

[plucky flax]

Yous a baby

I think even my vet is close to 500

[patent jacinth]

I have 155 effective on vet because of a Manstopper character but yeah I only have like 430 hours

Not the insane numbers you people pull

[wind spruce]

Zatan

[unborn dirge]

so you must regularly run auric damnations

[atomic swan]

True Level mod is fine for me
maybe its messing by other mods

[plucky flax]

I only play auric board. 90% it's maelstrom

[unborn dirge]

goat

[plucky flax]

They call me top 1% unsanctioned

[unborn dirge]

i dont think so, i only use the most popular ones ever streamer uses

im pretty sure its my computer

[nocturne dust]

I dislike maelstrom because it takes too long

[patent jacinth]

I’ve modified a pack I found in a steam guide over time

[atomic swan]

True Level is the mod that shows +level

[plucky flax]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046914150363844779/1284798054016356473/image.png?ex=66ff032e&is=66fdb1ae&hm=c1117a1e0574d18ec02852ed5f99ec96d214d63315b51239579ef76ebfcd43c2&

Maelstrom tend to take anywhere between 20 to 35 mins for me.

[atomic swan]

That will be sad if its your computer's problem

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-mermaidman-evil-gif-10846836

[nocturne dust]

I generally sit around 40 minutes which is just too long to me. I can do normal aurics in like 20 minutes (or like sub 15 with a good squad).

Although part of that 40 minutes tends to be randoms not knowing when to push

[plucky flax]

You gotta push the pace yourself.

Cos the 3 randoms won't do it.

[unborn dirge]

tbf im pretty much using 10 potatoes connected by copper wire

[nocturne dust]

I'm too much of a team player, I prefer keeping the back clear and making sure everyone sticks together

[plucky flax]

Last night here. Bros farming kills not doing objectives then won't run to extraction at the end they all die
https://youtu.be/XOz2-tanfls

990k damage so close to 1mil. (Old scoreboard was 1 mil )

[nocturne dust]

Are those green fire particle effects on enemies? is... has that been a thing?

I guess my graphics settings prevent those or something cuz I've never seen that effect

[plucky flax]

Green? You mean blue?

[nocturne dust]

Looks green on the mutant around 4:44

[plucky flax]

I think it was on gas.

[nocturne dust]

o, si

[shy pewter]

Lol, they waited 1 second too long and fucked around with that burster

On the catwalks

RIP

[plucky flax]

Yeah when I heard the burster and realised how dangerous that area was with ledge on the left I'm like "Yo time to GTFO"

[austere warren]

Yes and no for me. I get decently lucky and mostly play around with the same like 4-5 weapons.

Right now, I'm just collecting and deciding how I'll move. Got duelling swords to 20 earlier tonight and I swapped to run around on zealot to level thunder hammers.

Kind of a shit situation on my end since I got the rolls I want...Just not many guns I have to pick from atm and I'm not getting anything that's better/easier to build up at the moment.

Profane to transcendent is rough. Heresy is a pain right now and that's just how bad the starting rolls are. 80 in everything except defence.

[shy pewter]

Yup right call by you, your team didnt react to the urgency. Nice exit tho wp

[plucky flax]

I love creeping flames for the additional stagger/push.

[vernal agate]

right now is the meta build for voidstrike scriers or venting shriek xd

or is there an argument for both

[mossy oyster]

id say the latter

[nocturne dust]

I would say scriers

[mossy oyster]

pure DPS wise though maybe scriers beats it (98% sure)

venting shriek fire can get pretty silly tho

[plucky flax]

Also I always run KD for stuff like this. Never know when you'd have to clutch.

[plucky flax]

I've always ran void with creeping flames but it's just me.

Short smol clutch with assail void creeping flames
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYEhbVfPU6c

[nocturne dust]

Yeah but you're old and therefore bad

[mossy oyster]

the best part of this clutch is SDP interlude

https://tenor.com/view/agreed-yeah-gif-16049062

[plucky flax]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-homer-dance-gif-23875943

[mossy oyster]

such a good album

its crazy

[wind spruce]

So im like 99% sure souldrinker only procs off soulblaze killing blows, but can proc off other psykers owned soulblaze and their killing blows

[plucky flax]

Is there a buff icon?

I've never tried souldrinker it's just too far away.

And when I go right hand side I am not using burga or blaze trauma.

[nocturne dust]

souldrinker procs off any kill if the target has soulblaze, unless that changed in a hotfix

I tested it when it came out

[worthy halo]

As a rerolled mentally handicapped Smyker, where should I go and read so I can be better little fella and be useful in Aurics?

[wind spruce]

not in mission it doesnt

[nocturne dust]

The buff doesn't refresh tho

[wind spruce]

in psykhanium it does

[nocturne dust]

[wind spruce]

videos coming

[nocturne dust]

Dang it Fatshark

[wind spruce]

https://outplayed.tv/warhammer-40k-darktide/5nx86L

souldrinker proccing off teammates soulblaze

https://outplayed.tv/warhammer-40k-darktide/3lX5ER

souldrinker not proccing with soulblaze applied

@near wyvern you tested this yet?

soulblaze is the purple debuff, fyi

[mossy oyster]

time to drop souldrinker for something else

[wind spruce]

on gunker with just perilous combustion? yeah probably

until you're with a blaze trauma or purg psyker

[mossy oyster]

im da first

now I just wonder what to put it on

maybe 15 extra toughness or on soulstealer

[wind spruce]

close call

[nocturne dust]

wasn't worth it anyway

[wind spruce]

yeah 5% crit for all meaningful engagements and shitloads of toughness, not worth it

[nocturne dust]

not for Purgatus where it's a 3 point deviation. We all know gunkers don't exist

[ember orbit]

Which revolver is the ADS one?

Not the hipfire one

[atomic swan]

I dont think they were intended to farm there
I am guessing that there was a wave of disablers

The ogryn got net, zealot was using Chorus
but the psyker took 20 years to kill the trapper instead of free the ogryn first
then everybody flooded by disablers

[nocturne dust]

Zarona?

[sacred crane]

ok hear me out
scriers and mk2 dueling sword
IT SOMEHOW WORKS

[plucky flax]

Should have just ran like me

[sacred crane]

tbf
its fun when you actually manage to slaughter endgame hordes

[karmic finch]

M2 is just mIV if you can't aim XD.

You get a down swipe instead of a stab

It's nice still, not a bad weapon

[sacred crane]

ive somehow been clearing hordes with it

[severe folio]

youd have to check

[jovial juniper]

H2 is good

[thick carbon]

anyone feeling like their pre-update builds arent working nearly as well?

[wind spruce]

Nope

[jovial juniper]

Yeah they are better

[nocturne dust]

I mean, if you're going for the exact same builds as before, you might have some trouble with particular node placement like ER and the rending one pushing quell speed up, but they should be better/same strength if you just adjust a little

[tame venture]

honestly the heavys both being stabs seems more usable for me

[thick carbon]

wait, I think I realize what the issue is

gunner stunlock

[nocturne dust]

if you're using ER, gunner stunlock is a big threat, especially if you're used to toughness curios

[thick carbon]

what'

fucking fat fingers

what's ER? aside from Elden Ring

[restive ice]

estonian reinforcements

[potent echo]

ERP

[near wyvern]

Haven't tested it with an other player, doing it solo it seems to work, this one requires more thorough testing but I will add some notes to Atheneum

[near wyvern]

Emergency Rescue

[wind spruce]

Extra Rations

[near wyvern]

But in this case Empyric Resolve

Less peril less toughness node

[potent echo]

New acronyms

CotB

SD

[near wyvern]

SMH

[potent echo]

OWO

[nocturne dust]

Now is WS warp siphon or warp splitting

[near wyvern]

We are splitting terms here

[vestal fulcrum]

WSp

[near wyvern]

@patent jacinth

I tested the Assail LMB follow RMB target, this isn't the case. What happens is the RMB head highlight visualises the targeting system for Assails near your crosshairs.

If you take a group of enemies, throw some LMB and then jump and highlight an enemy on the back, the shards will not always go for it as there are heads on the way where the LMB will snap to.

Therefore, the LMB shards will not follow the RMB highlight, rather, the RMB highlight has the same targeting mechanic as the Assail shards that are flying, so if they have no target locked in they will go for the highlighted one.

[patent jacinth]

Weird

I’ve had them prioritize the highlighted target over someone next to them when trying this

Might be confirmation bias or something on my part

But it definitely seems to focus loose shards to someone if they’re close enough

[near wyvern]

That is because after they land, they aquire a new target similarly to how the highlight acquires a target

The highlight visualises the nearest enemy yo your crosshairs

Which is what the assail shards go for

If they have no target

But once they have a target, they ignore any new ones

[patent jacinth]

If rmb had a lock like brain burst this would be way more useful

[near wyvern]

RMB shards always lock the first hit to the highlight though, so if you have a highlight going on and throw the shard, it will follow even around corners to hit the target

[patent jacinth]

I meant the target of your rmb staying highlighted if they move away or someone overlaps them

Either way it’s nice to know more definitively how it works

[near wyvern]

Also the LMB shards hitting the highlighted target doesn't happen if the highlight is not within the 10m targeting range, further proving that LMB shards will not go for the highlight but rather the targeting mechanics for the highlight and the shards are the same

(Snapping to nearest head to crosshairs)

[patent jacinth]

I guess I just believed it worked this way because I heard something about it and it seemed to function this way when I tried it

[potent echo]

I know shards lose all tracking when you go into potw

Don't ask me how I know

[nocturne dust]

Imagine if shards exploded too

Crystalline Will + Assail explodey build

[ivory path]

Im really failing to understand all this complaining on reddit about smite psykers. Do they just not realize you can push out like a million damage with it with the right build?

[nocturne dust]

I mean, the reddit has the problem of having players from every difficulty level and people who haven't even played Darktide in months

[near wyvern]

Yeah EP ER Smite is the way to go for this patch to trivialise the game

Creeping Flames as well on that ofc

[nocturne dust]

Warp Rupture is good, I promise. You just have to play Sedition.

[potent echo]

PC is an optional talent

[ivory path]

I should run Karnak twins with smite build before it gets nerfed

[near wyvern]

Warp Rupture is good for high mobility Purga and Trauma builds because you don't really need any extra control nor damage over ranged so might as well take the aim hack for counter sniping across the map

[potent echo]

Isn't warp rupture the direct damage on shriek lol

[nocturne dust]

[nocturne dust]

yes

[near wyvern]

Oh wait

My bad

[potent echo]

Destroyed

Pygex just said warp rupture is good

[ivory path]

Have any of you tried out the 20% chance to explode elites on kill for the purg staff? Ive tried running it and I cant tell if its proc'ing or not. Dont really see any effects.

[near wyvern]

It doesn't matter what I say, read the Atheneum, that's what I think

[potent echo]

You are right

[near wyvern]

[ivory path]

Its a really cool sounding blessing in theory

[near wyvern]

Tried it in the meat grinder and the damage was laughable

[nocturne dust]

I don't believe you, which means I believe you.

[potent echo]

I had a flamer explode next to a reaper

Did thousands of damage

[ivory path]

I think they should lower the chance to like 5% and make it any enemy

[potent echo]

Isit based on %max hp or smth

[ivory path]

make waves explode

[near wyvern]

If the blessing had a similar explosion we could be cooking but in general you always want to avoid race conditions with your team

Shit needs to die ASAP

And you need to kit accordingly, you are not and should not be the only one doing the killing

[nocturne dust]

Make the explosion an Ogryn Grenade

[ivory path]

Or maybe not have it be damage oriented and make its CC based. Knock shit over when the explosion goes off

[patent jacinth]

It absolutely can, but that build is literally just holding both mouse buttons and watching the sparks

[nocturne dust]

The Purgatus does not need that, lol.

[ivory path]

combo with brittle blessing for an interesting support build

[near wyvern]

Bad design, purga already controls everything except Crushers, Bulwarks and Mutants

[patent jacinth]

And it makes fighting entirely trivial for your team while you are going

[ivory path]

My standard for trivializing the game is current smite lol

[patent jacinth]

I just don’t like smite because of how utterly insane of a cc tool it is

It just turns stuff off

[nocturne dust]

I'd like smite if charged strike was useful

[patent jacinth]

Assail is very comparable in sheer killing power with a empowered blitz build but I actually like it because its not just hold lmb and watch people dance

It also has a severe armor deficiency

[nocturne dust]

I don't really like any of the blitzes tbh. I mean, I use them when appropriate, but they all annoy me in some way. BB feels awful without EP, and EP doesn't stack from special kills, Assail just evaporates the moment the tiniest bit of armor appears, and smite never really has a good use case when you're not running the super OP, do-nothing EP shriek mess.

[patent jacinth]

I can agree with most of this

I do believe smite has a reasonable usecase, which is grabbing everyone near you and then letting go to knock them to the floor

[ruby scarab]

psyker blitzes are basically situational tools that you pull out for specific purposes

[patent jacinth]

Only way I can make myself use it

[near wyvern]

Smite is great utility for interrupting specials and pushing poxbursters

Quick LMB tap

[nocturne dust]

I mean, yes, you can use smite for stuff like that but... like... psyker has so many options to do the exact same thing and more

void staves will both knock down and murderize, surge stuns, Purgatus also CCs...

[ruby scarab]

smite is unironically the most versatile choice, it's basically a spammable panic button, has access to psykinetics aura, even if you don't count ER which really stretches things

[nocturne dust]

Taking smite for Psykinetics, while valid, isn't a smite thing, it's a Psykinetics thing

[ruby scarab]

well that's more of a downside for assail

[left basin]

I will kill horus heresy

[nocturne dust]

I also think smite is kinda poor as a panic button. It's not quick enough for when things really hit the fan imo.

Like, I'm either able to manage without smite or it's too late for smite

[ruby scarab]

definitely don't just pull it out at the last moment

[nocturne dust]

I mean yeah

but the point when you pull it out is also a point where I could be blasting away with a staff instead

[ruby scarab]

yup, it's mostly up to personal experience to feel if something's going wrong and you really need to smite to keep the run afloat

[nocturne dust]

Right. Smite is an opportunity cost, though. Things never go wrong enough that I need smite but also can't handle it without smite

and sometimes smite ain't really going to help, like when the boss spawns at the same time someone triggers a daemonhost

[ruby scarab]

oh definitely, one reason I hate damage smite build in particular is because you basically give up all boss damage at this point

and as a psyker you already got the short stick for boss damage to begin with

[nocturne dust]

I posted a match earlier where I had to chew through 3 bosses (2 daemons) on a smite/surge build, and I literally only pulled out smite twice that entire match, and the second time wasn't actually useful

There it is

I'm not sure the first time was that useful either, actually. Like, it helped, but I might've faired better if I'd used surge or my sword

[ruby scarab]

I remember someone mentioned that any run that you don't have to smite is a good run, and that has since been my guideline for using smite

[nocturne dust]

Idk mahn, I don't think that was a good run, lol

That was a very stressful run for me

[upper sun]

new slop rotation this week or no?

[sturdy tendon]

Isn't it bi-weekly?

Should be next week I think

[potent echo]

Next weak

[hoary leaf]

I did not realize how often that tech priest calls us "Pre-Servitors"

getting that a lot right now

[restive ice]

yeah a lot of those came from this update

[hoary leaf]

like to be fait he prolly aint wrong, but man he is chatty now

[desert yoke]

“How come no servitors are ogryn?”

[plucky flax]

Too dum dum

[desert yoke]

Wow.

Rude

[sturdy tendon]

Most Servitors are vat grown in the first place though

[weary crane]

I am single handedly showing the other classes psyker is the best in my games

[desert yoke]

Your head explodes when you run out of ammo

[ivory path]

Am I missing some caveat to the lingering influence node? My disrupt destiny stacks keep randomly only lasting 4 seconds.

sometimes its super easy to keep them stacked, then I randomly cant get them stacked at all

[wind spruce]

theres a visual bug that stops the multiple stacks showing sometimes

what you're seeing that disappears super quickly is the speed buff on kill

[ivory path]

oh okay

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/mind-blown-head-explode-amazing-shocking-wow-gif-19681784

[mild junco]

Hi,
I've picked up a classic Surge Build from the thread, and since I've almost exclusively played a Purgatus - BB - EP build, I'm wondering, how does a psyker without access to BB or Assail handle a group of gunners ? Just slide from cover to cover until you reached them ?

[nocturne dust]

I mean, if you're using surge, you would use surge for the gunners and act similarly to how you would handle enemies being outside of assail range, you spam-slide at them

You could also use lmb spam to suppress/damage them on your way

[mild junco]

Aight, thank you !

[vast hare]

Yeah pretty much, surge onetaps them. You take smite and the upgrades that do +10% damage to electrocuted and +1 targets (for surge stick it just gives 2 targets that take half instead of 1)

and you just shock 'em

Surge staffs only weakness is crowds, but u take smite for the upgrades so it basically comes with a crowd clearing tool

so its a self-complete build

melee just as an emergency backup if ur peril is too high or u need to whack a doggo/mutie right the hell now

[mild junco]

Smite good for horde clear ?
Last time I used it, I went from 0 to 100% without even killing the first target

[nocturne dust]

empowered psionics

[ivory path]

empowered psionics, peril reduction stuff, and venting shriek

[wind spruce]

this is a classic surge build, which means warp charges

[nocturne dust]

The illisi was forged for such occasions

[wind spruce]

jumped in like halfway through this mission, idk how they were coping before i rocked up but i guess it explains the mission time lol

[nocturne dust]

The friendly damage stat, lol

[tall mango]

I’m trying so hard to see use in the new smite add on but it just seems like a throwaway point

[nocturne dust]

charged strike is awful, yes

[tall mango]

if it staggered maybe i could totally see a use for it

[nocturne dust]

or did actual damage

or at least looked cool

[tall mango]

Or did anything more then, i think 90 damage?

[nocturne dust]

something like that

[tall mango]

fatshark tempts me so with melee psyker

one day i’ll have my beloved two handed force sword, one day

[summer prairie]

charged strike should chain to a few additional enemies

[nocturne dust]

The monkey's paw curls

[tall mango]

don’t

[nocturne dust]

You get a force sword, but it's the first weapon that isn't viable on damnation... or anywhere but sedition

[tall mango]

https://tenor.com/view/this-peaks-this-reeks-memes-gif-14297312045594448732

[quartz barn]

Atleast we have the heavy sword now

[nocturne dust]

I don't like heavy sword, it can't deal with armor.

[tall mango]

exactly

[quartz barn]

It can oneshot a mutant horde in a single swing tho

[tall mango]

so can duelist sword

[quartz barn]

No?

[radiant frigate]

someone explain to me how heavy sword isn't just worse illisi

[tall mango]

fym no

just oneshot the horde one at a time

[nocturne dust]

mutant horde

[quartz barn]

^

[nocturne dust]

Sir, that is a non-oneshot

[tall mango]

but you realistically can’t oneshot the entire horde

[quartz barn]

You actually can lol

[tall mango]

they stagger quote far apart 90% of the time

[radiant frigate]

how often are muties stacked close enough for brumentum

[tall mango]

Whenever I get mutant hordes they are never close enough for that lmao

[nocturne dust]

Whenever I get mutant hordes they always come in like 3 waves at least

[rigid sky]

better single-target iirc

just not vs carapace

[radiant frigate]

maulers and crushers:

[nocturne dust]

so worse single-target

[tall mango]

incredible really

[radiant frigate]

better single target except against targets that matter

[rigid sky]

in most practical cases yeah

[radiant frigate]

Real

[rigid sky]

I wouldn't bother with it on psyker anyway

I have the feeling it'll shine on veteran most

[nocturne dust]

What doesn't

[tall mango]

for vet i’ve been rocking duelist sword and it’s honestly great

[uncut sinew]

Assail w EP deals with hordes, Seerge w Warp flurry and Warp nexus, MK4 duelling sword for survivability. Assail won't vibe check with Sciers, but the seerge is bugged for now. Been using this for a while and it works beautifully. Deletes elites and trash hordes

[tall mango]

i’ve heard the biggest winner with duelist sword is zealot though

[radiant frigate]

ds zealot is fucking dumb

[jovial juniper]

They don't need to use special
Is that enough? Idk

[rigid sky]

and psykers are gonna have to suffer for that pretty soon

[nocturne dust]

I tried ds zealot and I don't want to go back

my fingers still remember the pain

[quartz barn]

I mean ds is on of the best melees and zealot excels in melee

[rigid sky]

DS's balancing factor, before, was that it only existed on psyker

[tall mango]

i won’t be surprised when dueling sword gets an (admittedly deserved) nerf

[rigid sky]

Psyker's entire melee prowess relied on overpowered weapons to cover our weaker basic kit

[nocturne dust]

I demand they buff Deimos in exchange

[tall mango]

or give us another weapon

[rigid sky]

now those overpowered weapons are on classes with a strong basic melee kit

[jovial juniper]

Nuh uh Obscurus buff incoming

[nocturne dust]

Fatshark would never.

[rigid sky]

and frankly the ds4 is just doing the same shit a knife would do anyway (but better)

[nocturne dust]

Do it Fatshark. Prove me wrong.

[tall mango]

vet has shovel and power sword
zealot has heavy evis and thunder hammer
how come we only get 1 unique melee

[nocturne dust]

Ogryn whistling in the background

[tall mango]

this is why i propose we get a force spear and it’s just the dueling sword but even better

[tall mango]

ogryn is a special case he gets all the special toys because he’s been good

[rigid sky]

fuck it give us slab shield

[radiant frigate]

force greatsword but it's jist evis XV psyker edition

[nocturne dust]

force greatsword but it's just ogryn pickaxe

[radiant frigate]

with uncanny strike and slaughterer

[tall mango]

i’m okay with that

force spear or halberd would be really cool though, especially seeing as we have no glaive type weapons at all in DT

[nocturne dust]

Meh, I want more staves

[plucky flax]

Bolt > voidstrike.

[nocturne dust]

Fatshark will add the bolt staff and then call it voidbolt

[tall mango]

more staffs will be great of course

i’ve been playing more rogue trader and some of the staffs are pretty cool

[potent echo]

add a beam staff to inferno

blazeaway/nexus beam staff 🤤

[summer prairie]

I guess with ER Surge you want to quell for 2 or 3 tics to get value out of it. Even without it quelling one tic is enough for one full charge with flurry up

with ER you basically always get one full charge per tic quelled and it's a bit more efficient to quell for more than 1 tic

[late sapphire]

They're gonna add a black hole staff and call it voidvoid

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/no-stop-pleading-begging-please-gif-17517986

[jovial juniper]

Trauma staff but reversed

[nocturne dust]

would actually be neat

[narrow fern]

That actually sounds pretty sick

[summer prairie]

everything explodes except the area within the circle?

[nocturne dust]

things get dragged to a spot that then explodes

[summer prairie]

that could be a blessing too

but that would be a shame

[tall mango]

Nah make it a different mark of the trauma staff

Could have one for electro kinetic that functions more closely to Smite then base staff, doing decent damage but stuning more enemies then the other electro staff

[nocturne dust]

trauma staff with blast radius dump stat?

[late sapphire]

Old surge nah no way

They should add one where you can throw lightning bolts

Call it the surgebolt

[potent echo]

one day we need to call them by equinox and nomanus

unfortunate naming for the latter one

electrokinetic nomanus staff mmm yes flow through meeee

[jovial juniper]

But it's a voidstrike variant

[late sapphire]

[acoustic swallow]

How does Blaze-Away work on Inferno Staff?
Like will the damage ticks be higher?

[nocturne dust]

It works on soulblaze, yes

[severe folio]

is the columnus mk5 no longer available to us

[nocturne dust]

renamed

it is vraks or something now

[severe folio]

oh

then

do you know which one is it

and is dumdum still good for them lol

[warm bolt]

It's called the Vraks mk5

and yes, dundum and fire frenzy or dundum and deathspitter (think this one is better)

[severe folio]

ok

Rampage nerfed ?

[jovial juniper]

Afaik no

[severe folio]

crazy

[radiant frigate]

what if we got a voidstrike variant that just obliterates the fuck out of the first target but has no cleave

i have been informed that this is called "surge staff"

[cosmic sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/ambulance-serge-lights-gif-13126018

Serge Staff

boom boom lights

[ancient plover]

thank you guys for that assail build

I really like scryzers with assail

[fresh reef]

Anyone tried the brautos on psyker yet?

[jovial juniper]

Funny horde shooter

#psyker-class message

#psyker-class message

[stable edge]

hi, how work channeled force passive? just charge staff with RMB and attacks with LMB?

[fiery wigeon]

warp unbound does not seem to be working for me when im using lightning staff

[jovial juniper]

It doesn't work with Purgatus as well

[fiery wigeon]

damn

well rip that i just wanted to maximize surge

[nocturne dust]

I blew myself up with voidstrike with it, but that seems to be rare

[late sapphire]

it really isn't

surge does nowhere near as much damage

[patent mango]

if only surge worked on surge rmb

[analog agate]

It would make it as good as when it was glitched last year.

[patent mango]

dont rember glitch was it the ep one?

[analog agate]

Well, not as good as but better than now

Yeah

[patent mango]

i c

[analog agate]

Swap canceling electro staff gets it kinda there now, though

[plucky flax]

Me I do damage

[late sapphire]

I do more

[plucky flax]

Pro

[late sapphire]

Peak surge dps is below peak voidstrike dps i think

But surge is much more consistent

[analog agate]

I honestly think surge has better properties where it matters. Namely, taking out spread out shooters/gunners/specials quickly. Granted, I am not the biggest void player so maybe I am missing something with it

[late sapphire]

That's what you bring assail for

[mossy oyster]

the only thing you're missing is the voidstrike projectile

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1202399927322419230.webp?size=96&quality=lossless

[plucky flax]

I do more on my surge build than my assail void build

[late sapphire]

I do about the same on both

But for scab melee mael for example i will always take voidstrike

[mossy oyster]

id say surge and void fill the same situation out you described though

[late sapphire]

Can't bowl three maulers in one surge cast, can in one voidstrike cast

[mossy oyster]

3?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1202399927322419230.webp?size=96&quality=lossless

[late sapphire]

3...

[mossy oyster]

melee maelstroms have been crazy lately

last time I evil maxxed in a melee maelstrom

[plucky flax]

Scab melee is for trauma

[mossy oyster]

I popped scriers void

and 1 shotted 8-9 maulers

https://tenor.com/view/gojo-satoru-gif-949319236308169219

[late sapphire]

So true

[mossy oyster]

I actually like melee with void simply for the fact they spam me with 30 ragers + 10 maulers

consistently

[late sapphire]

Idk i feel with true aim and sg you can burst out with insane dps on voidstrike

[mossy oyster]

makes for quite the nice bubble wrap

[late sapphire]

Surge might do similar damage over an entire game but it's always roughly the same dps

[mossy oyster]

you can really meme true aim (in a melee maelstrom anyway cause it wont be nearly as bad) and take surge blazing spirit

[late sapphire]

Except for when you shriek to ctrl+a ctrl+d an entire horde

[mossy oyster]

surge blazing spirit meme would be ok on void during a CIVI

not during any other situation imo

(mainly because free soulblaze from true aim and surge= double fireball) anything thats not already overkilled will be overburnt

[brazen drum]

hello what's the dump stat for bolt pistol for gun psykers?

[late sapphire]

mobility

[brazen drum]

awesome thank you !

[radiant yew]

Does Reality Anchor apply to Scrier's peril generation?

[late sapphire]

Everything

[radiant yew]

So it provides 20% more Scrier's Gaze uptime

[summer prairie]

no

[late sapphire]

Every reduction applies to all sources

And no

[rancid geyser]

it does

[late sapphire]

SG perils increase faster over time

[rancid geyser]

every source

you can even see it in real time

[mossy oyster]

does SG peril have a percentage increase

over time

[summer prairie]

it has a ramp up

[late sapphire]

More stacks means more perils

[jovial juniper]

Scab melee is for Perfectionism

[nocturne dust]

I like voidstrike a lot more than surge because of the way voidstrike packages damage. Yeah, it's slower, but it hits a lot harder. It's fairly trivial to line up enemies.

[radiant yew]

Is it worth taking if I don't use other warp based attacks

[late sapphire]

No

[mossy oyster]

wheres my scientist at higui

[radiant yew]

I.e. pop gaze, switch to shotgun and maul

[zinc phoenix]

people complaining about the ai when theyve got a visibile skill issue always gets me

[late sapphire]

Grab the reduce peril on melee / ranged nodes if you want that

[jovial juniper]

At work lmao

[late sapphire]

Crack of Bone and the other one as well

[zinc phoenix]

"oh i should have survived a sniper hit i have a bunch of toughness" like bro the mistake was fighting while in a sniper beam

[mossy oyster]

are there actual number/percentage increases while in SG (peril wise)

like a definitive number

you can answer this later higui

[rancid geyser]

me complaining about my skill issue when the UI is the problem 🙂

[zinc phoenix]

i do just fine with the base game ui lol

[rancid geyser]

im joking

[radiant yew]

Ooo Purloin Providence looks good

[rancid geyser]

lmao

[mossy oyster]

its not

[rancid geyser]

but yeah i started playing the game vanilla

[late sapphire]

Sometimes man sometimes a zealot with a sniper on him dodges into you

Feels bad

[rancid geyser]

there is a lack of skill with some of the mods now

[radiant yew]

It's a chance to instantly quell peril, letting me stay in gaze longer :(

[mossy oyster]

purloin providence is a worse battle meditation

and battle meditation/purloin providence is a worse crack of bone

[clear heath]

should've dodged his dodge bro

pvp game

[rancid geyser]

0 attention to detail some ppl legit cant play without the mod that shows where specials are

[mossy oyster]

(because crack of bone is guaranteed peril quell/reduction)

just for meleeing heads

[late sapphire]

It's ok i barreled the zealot in question off a ledge last time it happened

[radiant yew]

Oh yeah are there shock mauls with overhead heavies?

I'm going for an enforcer equipment build

[late sapphire]

Yeah

[zinc phoenix]

i have learned to echolocate them in missions LOL

[radiant yew]

Guaranteed overheads let me proc By Crack of Bone more often

[zinc phoenix]

sometimes ill literally stop to pivot the character a few times to work out where the special is

[brazen rampart]

Both shock mauls have an overhead heavy iirc, but agni is a far easier maul to use for strikedown attacks.

[mossy oyster]

purloin providence and battle meditation suck

(and I like battle meditation)

but they just suck sadly

[late sapphire]

Purloin Providence sucks hard

BM is ok

[radiant yew]

Is battle meditation the whole "on kill, chance to quell peril" perk I have

Oh it is

[late sapphire]

it's 1% avg

on an assail shard that kills 4 trashmobs that's a 40% discount

[radiant yew]

I use it with Quietude and Warp Expenditure

[late sapphire]

and it scales with peril reductions

[rancid geyser]

the directional sound is good in the game, but after watching some vids ppl clearly arent even using skill when there is a radial notification that shows the direction of every special/elite

[mossy oyster]

compare % chances of quelling peril compared to guaranteed peril quell, and you decide which one would be better for scrier's spamming/upkeep

[late sapphire]

BM is actually kinda insane with WS and ER

[rancid geyser]

then some of them try to talk shit on your gameplay

[zinc phoenix]

yeh that just feels like cheating or the people who play with light level changes in the dark levels

[summer prairie]

For every 12s spent in SG the peril cost increases by 100%. Maybe.

[late sapphire]

80% peril reduction means Battle Meditation is 5x as effective

[radiant yew]

I get 2.5% toughness back for making 10% peril, I get 5% toughness back for healing 10% peril

[late sapphire]

Warp Expenditure sucks

Unspec it immediately

[nocturne dust]

warp splitting siphon

[zinc phoenix]

i wish theyd stop changing trait names every five minutes

i cant remember wtf is what

[radiant yew]

But it gives me toughness regen as long as Gaze is active

[late sapphire]

It sucks

[radiant yew]

:(

[mossy oyster]

quietude/soulstealer does it better

for simply quelling and killing shit with warp attacks

respectively

[late sapphire]

he is playing nonwarp damage only

[radiant yew]

The peril feedback loop :(

[late sapphire]

so no soulstealer

[mossy oyster]

sucks to be him then I guess

[rancid geyser]

it only gives decent gen when gaze is like 20+

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-fade-fade-away-disappear-evaporate-gif-16638726229780416323

[rancid geyser]

before that its kinda not noticable

[late sapphire]

warp expenditure sucks big time though

25% toughness for 100% peril lol

literally half a trashmob hit

[radiant yew]

Might take Endurance then

[mossy oyster]

I gotta get on and re-tweak my gunker build

[radiant yew]

Just to have Toughness resistance

[rancid geyser]

endurance is good, makes you tanky

[mossy oyster]

meh

I say it makes you

"tanky"

[late sapphire]

one with the warp and endurance are ok picks

bring you from 2 to 4 trashmob hits until toughness breaks lol

[radiant yew]

Combine it with the scaling resistance maybe?

I'm going shotgun/maul

[late sapphire]

Tbh i think pure gunker is stinky

Bring assail and grab soulstealer

[mossy oyster]

real gunker

[late sapphire]

Toss shards to heal

[radiant yew]

Oh I have shards!

I'm only level 13 now though

[mossy oyster]

should probably get to 30

before build crafting then

(esp with soyker)

zealot can get 15-18 and just be fine (because by that time we get to duelist/until death)

[late sapphire]

Low level psyker kinda sucks

Fuck sg, even, grab assail and go all in on the shard spam

It sorta solves all problems up to damnation

[mossy oyster]

true you wanna power level

assail EP fire shriek

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1202399927322419230.webp?size=96&quality=lossless

[radiant yew]

I'm kinda doing fine as is though?

[mossy oyster]

difficulty deletion button until T5

[scarlet rock]

What are the best blessing for the deimos nowadays?

[mossy oyster]

its not about doing fine or not

its just about what levels the fastest

[radiant yew]

I'm not hard carrying but I was level 9 doing high int malices happy

[late sapphire]

uncanny slaughter

which one is malice is that diff3

[plucky flax]

No warp rider. D:

[mossy oyster]

point tax

sad

cause im a warp rider abuser

[plucky flax]

Do you need quitude with gun though?

[mossy oyster]

but with the current setup I enjoy abusing being in scrier's longer

[plucky flax]

I don't use it with guns.

[radiant yew]

Savant's SG lines are peak tbh

[scarlet rock]

I figured just wanted to double check tbh, and how is surge/nexus on surge staff? I thought it sound pretty solid but wasnt sure

[mossy oyster]

its for quelling and getting toughness passively

[late sapphire]

surge doesnt work on rmb

[mossy oyster]

or instantly cause crack of bone/TTS

[late sapphire]

go flurry nexus

[plucky flax]

Hrm I see.

[late sapphire]

surge only dupes projectiles, i.e. only works properly on voidstrike

[scarlet rock]

oh thats good to know tyty

[plucky flax]

My gun build is just similar to old build with only the increase cleave talent.

[mossy oyster]

theres a reason im combining these few things in my current gunker build

[plucky flax]

I am not pro enough to use these gimicks.

[scarlet rock]

back to flurry/nexus then lmao

[late sapphire]

flurry is also kinda fucked

[mossy oyster]

maximum scrier's uptime abuse

[late sapphire]

if you run flurry always fully charge your blasts

[mossy oyster]

(while also being "tanky")

and abusing scriers buffs

quite nice

[scarlet rock]

I honestly always do anyways just out of habit

[plucky flax]

Yeah you're not getting any peril with that.

[late sapphire]

flurry actually makes rmb blasts slower if you just spam them outright (but with more charge)

[plucky flax]

But the damage

[mossy oyster]

you talking about my build chaos

[plucky flax]

Ye

Warp rider 20% damage OP

[mossy oyster]

last run I went on I got 700-800K

lol

[plucky flax]

[scarlet rock]

good to know, probably never would have noticed the surge bug and I rarely send out the rmbs without fully charging them cuz idk my brain just goes "fill the bar"

[mossy oyster]

I agree I love warp rider especially with warp unbound

but warp rider is just a point tax if I want to use the new scrier nodes

its annoying

[radiant yew]

I imagine Disrupt Destiny is the only real option for SG melee psykers

[plucky flax]

I bow down to the master

[mossy oyster]

(I am not giving up TDR or move SPD) on scriers

[near wyvern]

Surge nexus works on electro staff if you ho LMB build. It's stupid how effective it is but it's not a build you can properly carry with

[mossy oyster]

movement speed is what sells me on scriers so much

endurance is a nice bonus though

[late sapphire]

warp speed is great but kinda useless with a ds

[plucky flax]

I use tdr movespeed and extra finesse damage.

[late sapphire]

no idea what melee you run though

[shy pewter]

I'm assuming a psyker with a bolt pistol will be dumping collateral, is that correct?

[mossy oyster]

if I go with your idea tho Chaos, I would drop endurance and soul stealer

and go towards warp rider

I might try it out later

get even dumber damage

maybe actually 1 shot bulwarks/2 tap crushers

[plucky flax]

Nah if you use crack and bone or whatever it's called. WEakspot quell peril.

Then no reason to run warp rider.

[mossy oyster]

oh yea true

counter intuitive

I went from both opposite ends of scriers gameplay lmfao

abusing 100% peril bonuses

to completely reducing peril and abusing scrier bonuses instead