psyker-class

[radiant frigate]

and yes 5% on melee kill

exciting stuff

[wispy wagon]

Im trying to make Trauma more effective than killing trash and knocking shit over

[radiant frigate]

have you heard about our lord and saviour

[spice veldt]

the normal rules of peril apply
you don't blow up as long as the lingering buff is icon
but there is a bug where you still blow up with inferno and electrokinetic

[radiant frigate]

blaze trauma

[wispy wagon]

I wanna augment base damage with momentum and empyric

[waxen jackal]

I'm using voidstrike so that's good. And I'll keep an eye out for the icon then, thanks

[wispy wagon]

Does the soulblaze get buffed too from momentum and Empyric?

I mean I can try it but if you know im curious its whatev

[wind spruce]

Empyric doesn't buff damage, but yes all damage increases apply to soulblaze (except for that one +5% ranged damage node)

[wispy wagon]

not damage I get that but just warp damage caused by blaze or the staff blast itself

[wind spruce]

Yep, soulblaze is warp damage so that half of malefic momentum will affect it

[wispy wagon]

so almost +50% damage if you set it up right, and it doesnt seem to be that tough to proc both under high stress

[radiant frigate]

there is a funny amount of +damage in psyker talents

15% perfect timing 20% malefic momentum 20% warp rider

[wind spruce]

Way more than +50% damage tbh

[radiant frigate]

up to 24% warp siphon

[strong gulch]

It's all packed in this OP node.

/s

[radiant frigate]

up to idek from SG

still i do not understand what the SG tooltip is telling me

it says gain 10% and then gain 1% per second in SG up to 30%

is that an extra 30% on top of the 10%

[wind spruce]

Yes

[radiant frigate]

or is it alrogether up to 30%

[wind spruce]

10-40%

[late sapphire]

yes

[wind spruce]

But during the afterburn affect of scriers (the 10s where you can't blow up with Warp Unbound), you lose that 10% base damage and the crit increase

[wispy wagon]

Does this make any fuckin sense at all?

Am I really missing out by not getting soulblaze?

[patent wing]

what is this abomination

[wind spruce]

1. Trauma and smite fill the same role (CC).
2. You should ALWAYS take the bottom empowered psionics node that gives three stacks, and you should NEVER take the middle node that gives a garbage amount of toughness.
3. Never waste a weapon perk on sprint efficiency.
4. The rending above 75% peril node is garbage.
5. Your build doesn't need by crack of bone. When will you ever get use out of a small peril reduction in melee when you can just quell for about two seconds and drop 50% peril

6. The staff switch time node is garbage. Staffs already have a very quick wield speed.

[wind spruce]

7. Elites is an OK-ish perk on trauma but infested is pure garbage. You already oneshot poxwalkers very easily.

[radiant frigate]

8. the curios are Quite Something

[wind spruce]

9. You never EVER take venting shriek without creeping flames.

[patent wing]

10. dump stat on ds4 is not dmg but mobility

[wind spruce]

11. Warp expenditure is pretty garbage, you don't need it with soulstealer and quietude on trauma

[nocturne dust]

🤔 Would a 0% damage staff be able to throw them around?

[wind spruce]

0% damage would still oneshot easily

[nocturne dust]

Dang, that ledge penance will never be mine

[wind spruce]

12. Madrigal, KYS, dumpstat is cleave damage

[nocturne dust]

It's mobility

[wind spruce]

It's really not lol

[vapid lichen]

hi does anyone know if this node affects soulblaze

[steel flame]

Is it just me or is it super strange that fat shark felt the need to pay a bunch of creators to make tutorials for a crafting system that isn't complicated?

[nocturne dust]

It's not, people are dumb

[wind spruce]

Oooh I can very slightly hit hordes harder except that it doesn't even make a difference because weakspot hits already kill hordes in one hit, I love getting a 4% damage increase on the garbo second and third targets duelling sword hits even though most builds don't even use it for horde clear especially a trauma build

[patent wing]

diff between 60 and 75 mobi is 1,2% dodge distance

and some sprint speed

[steel flame]

Technically it should since soulflame qualifies as warp damage but it needs testing because this is fatshark

[nocturne dust]

Ooooh, I can dodge .0001 meters more

[patent wing]

whilst its 30% dmg for cleave 60 vs cleave 80

[wind spruce]

Exactly. Much more useful than like a 1% increase against the hordes you never hit

[wind spruce]

No its not...

How is it 30% damage

[steel flame]

If you dump cleave you lose just enough cleave that you won't be able to activate rampage on the ds4

Unless you take peril cleave

[patent wing]

yah i was looking the full range, between 60-80% cleave is like 5% dmg against infested

[nocturne dust]

I mean not much will change if you dump either, but mobility is definitely my preferred. You cannot feel it at all, whereas you can feel the dump in cleave dam under certain circumstances. Not optimal circumstances, but neither stat is going to matter for that.

[patent wing]

id still argue its not a KYS 💀 argument

https://tenor.com/view/buen-dia-gif-16699237582072412804

[steel flame]

Wot

In the world

[nocturne dust]

Nonsense, if you don't follow the precise will of the god emperor, you will be smote

[wind spruce]

I ❤️ u, u know this

[vapid lichen]

yeah thats what i was thinking lol

[patent wing]

ikr ❤️

[steel flame]

I'ma send death cult after you for thinking wrong thoughts

[nocturne dust]

Love is a pathway to desire, and desire is chaos.

[steel flame]

I still need to test to make sure. Just because it SHOULD work like that doesn't mean that fat shark actually knows how to code properly

[patent mango]

the crafting system seems way more complicated outside the game

but once you try it out its super shrimple lol

[steel flame]

I mean shit it's simpler than their best system which was weaves

[patent mango]

scary...

[steel flame]

They just bad at presenting it in a way that immediately makes sense

[wind spruce]

https://outplayed.tv/warhammer-40k-darktide/2vYJdz

nuh uh

no difference with regular light, and push attack can activate rampage on either sword

also, im pretty sure cleave damage doesnt even affect cleave targets

[strong gulch]

Thanks for the cursed thought brains. I was just thinking of armor penetration and cleave damage; then my brains had go think up "skin penetration". 🙃

[steel flame]

At least someone here will actually fact check here. Was fishing to see if anyone would check that 🫡

Gold star

🥇

Still think rampage is the best secondary blessing of saber, turns it into a real horde mulcher

I know most people prefer precog

Though I do also like shred

[nocturne dust]

uncanny + thrust

[wind spruce]

which I will never understand

precog is so fkn bad

[steel flame]

In other news

Scriers bolt pistol fucks real hard

[strong gulch]

I like the stab the same target one.

Relentless strikes. That's what I've been liking as my second DS blessing.

[steel flame]

I'll have to try that

[strong gulch]

Unless I'm crit fishing.

[steel flame]

Man I can feel the mettle nerf so hard on fire trauma x0

[buoyant maple]

DS horde clear is just bad period, rampage alleviates it slightly but it’s still comparatively quite bad

[waxen jackal]

Had my first 1hp clutch. Got the whole team up, we died later tho. That was crazy

[strong gulch]

I like that I don't have to hold my stabs, I don't have to hit weak spots or activate anything with a dodge and the stacks don't drop if you miss.

[buoyant maple]

I’d go riposte tbh

Riposte is just always good

[wind spruce]

60% vs 80% cleave damage. 15 damage against first target (mostly irrelevant, you're going to oneshot their 300 hp with literally any one of the 20 damage buffs psyker gets). 5 damage increase on second target... 3 damage on third

[nocturne dust]

Yes

[strong gulch]

This one is ready for its modling career.

[nocturne dust]

He looks annoyed that he has to stand there

[wind spruce]

ashen steel

[waxen jackal]

Why do people say heresy is a trap difficulty?

[nocturne dust]

Do people say heresy is a trap difficulty?

[steel flame]

It used to be so much worse they buffed the ds cleave awhile back. Before the push attack was literally the only way to activate rampage, it was awful

[waxen jackal]

Yeah I've been told it a few times. Never explained themselves tho

[strong gulch]

Yes.

[nocturne dust]

Must be same people who say dueling sword is weak

[strong gulch]

Not really.

[steel flame]

I'm waiting for Ds to catch a nerf to armor pen

[narrow herald]

For Zealot is precog or repost better on a piety build? 🤔

[wind spruce]

Because people get stuck on heresy due to being afraid of damnation but the players are better on damnation (generally)

[buoyant maple]

I think u can get away with precog + riposte on zealot (no uncanny)

[steel flame]

Because vet being able to onetap crushers with no setup just doesn't seem fair xP

Dammit vet

That was psykers thing

Go eat chalk

[narrow herald]

But with uncanny which of the 2 would be better?

[nocturne dust]

when was that psyker's thing?

[buoyant maple]

Up to u tbh

[narrow herald]

or hell maybe even thrust

[strong gulch]

The typical skill level and map knowledge of the people on T4 is usually less and the director can be weirdly curded AF. Also like Irosk mentioned about the fear of moving onto a high difficulty.

[weary crane]

who wants to explain this then

[strong gulch]

STANDARD T4 just spawning in 30 ragers just because.

[wind spruce]

The One True Duelling ™️

[nocturne dust]

well you see, you didn't account for the crappy netcode

[waxen jackal]

That makes sense. Better teammates makes it easier

[buoyant maple]

I’m not a fan of thrust

Like Azrael said, I think holding for thrust is not worth it most of the time
U could just attack twice

[strong gulch]

dogs suck

[nocturne dust]

You don't even really need to do this with dueling sword, you'll get stacks just spamming heavies unless you're super precise

[buoyant maple]

I think if u had to pick between riposte/precog, I’d go riposte just because it’s a safer pick with higher uptime

[narrow herald]

me too, but I am wondering if on a class like zealot that has mobility if precog has more agancy

people in zealot chat love precog

prob because it is easy to get 60% crit on zealot just by playing the game

[buoyant maple]

That’s more due to duellist + precog being high damage after a dodge

[strong gulch]

Also mutants running past you then suddenly you're in their hands somehow.

[weary crane]

idk why they do, hounds use to work after the first patch on them. Now they are silent, bunny hop across the entire map and then pounce on you with 0 chargeup

[steel flame]

Shuttup, I'm just salty they got ds

XP

[nocturne dust]

It's okay, they'll nerf it soon.

[steel flame]

😭

[nocturne dust]

of course on a Fatshark timescale that means within the next 3 years

[strong gulch]

Dogs have always been an issue.

[buoyant maple]

It’s still just a single target one trick on veteran

[steel flame]

I still remember them randomly patching bromentum bayonet vet and ruined my weekend

[strong gulch]

The dogs have been tweaked here and there with varying degrees of success and failures.

[steel flame]

Rest in piece horde clear bayonet

[buoyant maple]

I didn’t like duelling sword that much on vet

[strong gulch]

rest in peas

[buoyant maple]

Horde clear is abysmal and veteran usually wants some kind of horde clear melee

[late sapphire]

green

[nocturne dust]

Can't you push green hounds while they're pouncing? At least, I've definitely been able to do that.

[waxen jackal]

I didn't even know you could push any hounds. Good to know

[nocturne dust]

lol

It's inconsistent though

If your connection is bad, try not to risk it

[waxen jackal]

Gotta time it right I'm guessing

[nocturne dust]

Nah, it just doesn't register

The timing is actually super generous, lol

[late sapphire]

thrust on zealot is okish because it stacks when you charge for a giga guaranteed kill anything deathblow

[buoyant maple]

Yea that’s the best case scenario for thrust tbh

[late sapphire]

i run uncanny precog and it works

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-mutant-warhammer-40k-darktide-mutant-gif-1118053842768353546

[proper osprey]

I still prefer the knife on zealot and vet than the ds

[late sapphire]

That's a you issue

Knife sucks

[proper osprey]

Uh

Right

[nocturne dust]

No no, he's right. Knife sucks. Don't use it. Dirty knife zealot.

[late sapphire]

knife zealot = i stand, ds psyker = i kneel

simple as

[proper osprey]

Anyway I the the ds on zealot is pretty good because it has good synergy with duelist

[weary crane]

May thy knife chip and shatter.

[waxen jackal]

Is a wound curio worth getting

[proper osprey]

They mad because they have no mobility

[nocturne dust]

I don't have one. I have a sword.

[leaden thunder]

no

[proper osprey]

Not really

[wispy wagon]

Thanks for the feedback

[weary crane]

https://tenor.com/view/dune-lisan-al-gaib-timothee-chalamet-dune-2-dune-part-two-gif-3759156317912335622

[leaden thunder]

it's generally better to play around not going down and preventing that

like save for a few rare exceptions, if I would go down twice between med stations the game is fucked

[waxen jackal]

Yeah that makes sense

[nocturne dust]

https://youtu.be/OgnxEzm3h1Q

[proper osprey]

I use the knife on my melee psyker

The mk6

Evil

[leaden thunder]

I say a few rare exceptions because I literally just got domed by a sniper that I didn't know was there and didn't hear, and died

but the team was doing very fine so it didn't matter

[crude cape]

man why did they change gun model names QQ
Whats the old columnus? is it the vraks now, not the 3rd one actually called columnus?

[nocturne dust]

vraks, yes

[radiant frigate]

real

knife is stupid and smelly

[leaden thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/plastic-man-real-real-powder-powder-that-makes-you-say-real-animated-comic-plastic-man-gif-7493651428267836743

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/sam-lake-hair-samlakehair-alanwake2-alan-wake-2-alan-wake-gif-4084097430794654700

[wispy wagon]

@wind sprucehow bout this? Reworked curious for more toughness

[jovial juniper]

She Sam on my lake

[wispy wagon]

could give up +1 smite for extra coherency idk

[mossy oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/alan-wake-sam-lake-alex-casey-alan-wake-2-mogged-gif-1380487082211128269

alan on my wake

[nocturne dust]

unlucky for some

[leaden thunder]

lol

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/alan-wake-alan-wake-2-alan-wake-aaa-gif-17006915372332537980

[lusty brook]

What perks do you guys like on dueling swords

[nocturne dust]

uncanny + thrust for me

[burnt valley]

do people know how the empower system works fully

[wispy wagon]

no good?

[nocturne dust]

awful

[wispy wagon]

noted

[burnt valley]

does the 2nd number show mean the number it can hit at max level

[wispy wagon]

Im going for Auric Tard wrangler

[nocturne dust]

I recommend Kinetic Deflection

I don't think I have a psyker build without it, lol

[burnt valley]

So if i upgraded this does it mean those will be the final stats or

[leaden thunder]

yes* but it isn't always 100% accurate

or it is and the ui is a little bugged

don't quite know

[nocturne dust]

yes, the right side numbers are the final stats... sometimes

is buggy

[burnt valley]

hmm

[leaden thunder]

but sometimes the maxes don't end up quite right

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, one of my weapons is 55% mobility when maxed, lol

[leaden thunder]

shouldn't be far off it tho

[burnt valley]

it didnt lie to me

[nocturne dust]

It's not super common that it does. It's occurred for me about 10% of the time

[burnt valley]

the good life of having a perfect force sword for once

what do u guys tend to pair with deflector nowadays

[nocturne dust]

which force sword

[wind spruce]

Never take unlucky for some, and I don't think the rending talent is worth it

[burnt valley]

mostly deimos but i tend to swap around for variety

[wind spruce]

Use those three points to get souldrinker or kinetic deflection

[brazen rampart]

Ui is bugged.

[nocturne dust]

I use slaughterer on Illisi and uncanny on Deimos when pairing with deflector, but you could also swap those blessings if you want a more generalist weapon (i.e. slaughterer on Deimos for a more horde-clearing weapon and uncanny on Illisi to handle armor)

[burnt valley]

so pretty much same as it was before really xD

[nocturne dust]

si

[burnt valley]

unstable power holding all the L's

any new interesting stuff u can put on inferno staff or just same old same old flurry nexus

[nocturne dust]

blaze away

blaze away is BiS, meta build is pairing it with nexus.

[burnt valley]

hmm

so pen flame focus channel and all that kinda useless?

[nocturne dust]

pen flame isn't useless, it's alright, but it's not better than nexus

[burnt valley]

kinda funny that u can have run and gun

[lethal lagoon]

Keep in mind pen flame also helps your teammates

[burnt valley]

still same perks for inferno?

[lethal lagoon]

[lethal lagoon]

I don't know if crit chance is a good idea anymore if you are taking that 5% crit/toughness talent on warpfire death

[nocturne dust]

I was going to post my rolling steel scoreboard where I had PF and double the damage of the rest of the team combined and say "My teammates:" but can't find it 😭

[nocturne dust]

crit/flak, yeh

[burnt valley]

didnt go through crit went through elite dmg 😉

[lethal lagoon]

So... you were doing it wrong before which means you are doing it right now

Fake it till you make it

[burnt valley]

ment crit chance aura

[nocturne dust]

Actually souldrinker isn't worth it

[lethal lagoon]

Actually

I have no idea and haven't tried

So don't even argue with me

[nocturne dust]

You drop 3 points just for it

[lethal lagoon]

I'm definitely clueless

[nocturne dust]

Hi definitely clueless, I'm DeadVoid

https://tenor.com/view/sips-tea-stephen-a-smith-gif-13112895

[burnt valley]

depends what u drop for it tho really

but seems like dropping mettle or what not is kinda troll

[nocturne dust]

Yes but no because of opportunity cost

[lethal lagoon]

[nocturne dust]

There are better things to take

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/despair-suffer-suffering-sad-sad-quotes-gif-14270258133567956444

[burnt valley]

like solidity kek

[nocturne dust]

Solidity is 1 point, not 3

[burnt valley]

technically 2

[strong gulch]

Didn't realize how mentally fatigued I am until I left a match due to frustration. I queued up for a game and someone barreled me of the ledge at the first encounter. After getting pick up at respawn, they hit me with another barrel. A short distance away, they nearly did it again.

[nocturne dust]

The main issue is that souldrinker is on the wrong side of the tree

[nocturne dust]

I mean, it could be 0 if you go for warp charges

[burnt valley]

empowered psionics my beloved

[nocturne dust]

I prefer Warp Siphon because it buffs soulblaze

BB is such a problem even with EP

because specials

[strong gulch]

BB suffers when the team is competent.

[burnt valley]

find going all the way to siphon just has so much tax nodes to get there

[nocturne dust]

Eh, you do have to drop a lot, but on purgatus it's totally worth it, especially if you can handle ER

[strong gulch]

Even so, I do ep BB because it's less point hungry.

[nocturne dust]

ER, my beloved

[burnt valley]

assume u mean the -40% peril right

[nocturne dust]

yes, Empyric Resolve

[strong gulch]

ER makes 17% warp resist trauma comfy to play.

[nocturne dust]

I don't think I have a build without ER currently, lol

[hollow jolt]

I wonder if you can stack enough peril reduct to have effectively 100% peril reduct

[nocturne dust]

Unless you count other classes

[lethal lagoon]

Okay, swap names

[nocturne dust]

No, it's good. Don't get hit.

Smh my head.

[strong gulch]

I don't have it on my BB build with purg. I def have it on surge.

[burnt valley]

my surge staff build and voidblast actually use WS but that's about it really

[lethal lagoon]

ER is "don't get hit"

Now you really have to

[burnt valley]

but who knows could be trolling

[lethal lagoon]

Wait

Now I have to

[nocturne dust]

Yes. That's what I'm saying.

[lethal lagoon]

[nocturne dust]

Lol.

[strong gulch]

Or get hit anyways and just steamroll everything.

[nocturne dust]

I mean on purg I can see an argument against it, but I'm crazy and don't like edging unlike every other psyker

[strong gulch]

Valid gameplay sibling.

[nocturne dust]

The red peril perils my mind

[burnt valley]

just blow ones self up

ez peril reset

[nocturne dust]

Counterpoint: don't blow yourself up and kill everything in a 20 mile radius

[mighty cipher]

Meanwhile I’m over here maxing out it twice a frame with BT Scriers.

[muted sinew]

what is soulblaze?

[burnt valley]

you make it sound like i wanna live

[nocturne dust]

Lol, I use Warp Unbound but don't stay at high peril with SG... because I always reflexively quell

[nocturne dust]

blue flame for psykers

[mighty cipher]

Extreme Icy-Hot

[strong gulch]

Shorten your "I'm going to explode" animation and accidentally cancel your shriek. 😭

[burnt valley]

kinda lame how truely useless that crystalline will passive truely is tho

[nocturne dust]

They should make it an ogryn grenade level explosion with Crystalline Will

[muted sinew]

how do i trigger it though? i see it in talents, but no idea to to make it happen

[nocturne dust]

Make martyr psyker viable

[burnt valley]

or u just take half as much corruption so u can use a single health chunk to blow up twice 🙂

and be +3 wound psyker

[strong gulch]

Everyone green stim the psyker. I would hope red stim buffs the self boom.

[burnt valley]

going boom

[nocturne dust]

Most psyker-specific weapons have a way (blessings/crits) to apply soulblaze, Inferno staff applies it on every attack, Perilous Combustion is a talent that applies it to surrounding enemies on elite kills, and wildfire spreads it via death

[muted sinew]

oh ok ty

[nocturne dust]

Soulblaze isn't super important/useful unless you're going a full Inferno staff build

or taking venting shriek

[burnt valley]

how many point u manage to get into ur warp siphon like 2 or 3

[nocturne dust]

well, I guess fire trauma too

[nocturne dust]

lawd I need to hotkey these builds

[burnt valley]

as i would assume u want a many as u can right for toughness gen

cuz of ER

[nocturne dust]

Fudge, gameslantern is down?

[burnt valley]

lantern be dead af

[nocturne dust]

#psyker-class message

The burny burny ha ha build

[waxen jackal]

I can never tell if I'm getting better at the game or if I just get carried lol

[strong gulch]

There is a staff that only does soulblaze (aka SB) called the Inferno staff but is call purg here. There is a blazing spirit blessing on some weapons that applies SB on crit. There are also talents on the talent tree that can apply SB like Perilous Combustion (aka PC) and Creeping Flames (a modifier on the shriek ability; creeping flames is often referred as shriek because no one take the other option.).

[nocturne dust]

wdym? The 100-200 dmg is best ability, all should take

No build should go without

[radiant frigate]

i wish i could do 100-200 damage with scrier's gaze

[strong gulch]

I am disabled and use a cane and kick harder than that sleepy node. 😭

[nocturne dust]

At least it's not charged strike

[burnt valley]

pretty much how mine is rn minus the kinetic deflection due to taking bubble

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/uncanny-emoji-angry-hakayaki-hakayaki-angry-emoji-gif-13101565263917230073

[nocturne dust]

bubble wouldn't eat extra points

[burnt valley]

probs gunna change it tho use bubble too much

[muted sinew]

any blessings recommendations for electrokinetic staff?

[nocturne dust]

flurry/nexus if you want to use rmb

[radiant frigate]

does your cane have blessings on it

[nocturne dust]

I think it's... surge/nexus for lmb spam?

[radiant frigate]

uncaney strike..

[nocturne dust]

canny strike

[burnt valley]

seems to on my tree for some reason

[nocturne dust]

🤔

[burnt valley]

cant get deflection on the crit node above it

[nocturne dust]

you lvl 30, right?

[strong gulch]

It's got lightweight and foldable. They are OP.

[radiant frigate]

sounds really handy

[burnt valley]

ah i see now u dont take flayer

thats why

[waxen jackal]

Is empowered psionics worth having for assail? Or is disrupt destiny the better option. Voidstrike/force sword

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, no, investing in BB is pretty bad. You shouldn't pull it out unless literally nobody else is handling snipers.

[nocturne dust]

I would recommend DD for the other stuff in your kit, but EP does make assail feel nicer iirc.

[waxen jackal]

I might play around with both. See what's fun

[burnt valley]

still amuses me that this passive still exists

[strong gulch]

For a general build DD will be better. If you are specifically trying to max assail, EP is better. But there are other nodes to take like WR (warp rider) for more damage on higher peril, true aim (for more crits), Warp Splitting (WS) for more cleave with peril, and pathing into SG (scrier's gaze) and taking WU (warp unbound) to take advantage of 100% peril for 10 seconds with assail.

[burnt valley]

peeps still taking soulblaze stuff on surge staff now or

[strong gulch]

yes

PC and shriek

I do wildfire too

[buoyant maple]

There’s a really funny build with surge (crit double shot) and the staff primary attack blessing stuff on left side

Saw a psyker do it in my game today he had really high damage

[waxen jackal]

I have all of those other things lol so I'll probably stick with dd right now. Maybe change it up down the line

[nocturne dust]

lmb spam is strong

It also strongly breaks your fingers

[burnt valley]

take it that means u rebless from warp nex and flurry tho right

[buoyant maple]

Nexus + surge

For the funny

[burnt valley]

so that means ur alt attack can double shoot or nah

[buoyant maple]

Left click can double shoot and has very high crit chance

[waxen jackal]

I run nexus/surge on my voidblast and it does pretty well

[strong gulch]

nah

[buoyant maple]

The lightning can’t double shot

[strong gulch]

only primary

[burnt valley]

sadge

[strong gulch]

because this game hates surge

the staff

[burnt valley]

ill just leave it as double warp then until i roll a slightly better one than my current

[waxen jackal]

Other weapons it doubles the secondary tho right?

[burnt valley]

i know it does for strike

[strong gulch]

Only voidSTRIKE

[burnt valley]

pretty sure it never did for blast / trauma

[waxen jackal]

Okay I thought I was going crazy. I coulda sworn I saw double strikes

[burnt valley]

perks on surge still same or

[strong gulch]

Kinda. Flurry is bugged. It makes your cast slower. Some say they aren't having an issue.

[burnt valley]

perks not blessings xD

[strong gulch]

I'm running surge + nexus on surge right now.

[strong gulch]

Reading hard

[burnt valley]

[buoyant maple]

Flak + elite, same as before

[strong gulch]

So flak + personal choice

[burnt valley]

yep no change what did i expect xD

same for trauma or has that actually changed now

[strong gulch]

Surge's break points are all over the place.

[nocturne dust]

imagine if they shadowfixed it for trauma, lmao

[strong gulch]

same flak + crit chance for fire trauma

[burnt valley]

carapace for non flame version right?

[waxen jackal]

2 explosions would be sick

[strong gulch]

Yes

Could do maniac too.

[buoyant maple]

With blazing spirit buff I think u should just not bother with non-flame void blast anymore

Blazing spirit tier4 is 4 Soulblaze stacks on crit, max 12 stacks

[burnt valley]

fire trauma use rend and blaze or something else

[buoyant maple]

Nah, nexus + blazing spirit

[burnt valley]

ah kk

[strong gulch]

fire trauma is blazing spirit + nexus

[burnt valley]

ye ill keep this one as rend and make a new one

[nocturne dust]

gotta fish for that crit

[lethal lagoon]

Rending Blazing with Soul Drinker

@wind spruce

Did you try that yet?

[burnt valley]

does souldrinker cap out or just stacks infinitely

[strong gulch]

Tho, there is a niche build that uses rending + blazing spirit to setup melee hits. It relies on true aim for crits. True aim was nerfed tho, but if you're mostly melee then it doesn't matter. SG has WU now too.

It's a melee focus build.

[buoyant maple]

Does not stack so only 5% crit chance

[burnt valley]

ye so just giga dead choice

[lethal lagoon]

It's so dead that it revive as a zombie and is about to play a game.

🧟

[strong gulch]

Crit chance on souldrinker also can't be refreshed. You have to wait for the buff to expire before proccing it again.

[wind spruce]

Not yet but I can now if no one else has

It says warp attacks so it should affect it

[lethal lagoon]

probs need crit aura too

[burnt valley]

how bad is the toughness replenish on the ER btw

like noticeable or just outright removes it

[wind spruce]

Quite noticeable

[burnt valley]

not played a single game yet so clown all u want

[wind spruce]

Gotta make sure you have like three sources of toughness instead of two

[nocturne dust]

Nah, I don't notice it but defense is like my best skill

[lethal lagoon]

I meant more that ER was a bit of a clown

It's very noticeable lmao

[burnt valley]

hmm

[nocturne dust]

Like, psyker is fragile and you'll get deleted by enemies if you take multiple hits in quick successions anyway

[lethal lagoon]

You also have to consider quietitude and warp expen operate off peril

So you are getting basically 54% or something

[nocturne dust]

But soulstealer does not, and you can kill way more

[lethal lagoon]

100 . 7 = 67 * .6 = 40.2

[burnt valley]

soulstealer?

[lethal lagoon]

So ER, is in some ways, -60% toughness replenishment

Because you get toughness from peril in two skills

[nocturne dust]

toughness on warp kill

[burnt valley]

ah

[lethal lagoon]

You also get "toughness" from warp

DR

10-33% talent

[ornate hamlet]

This information is DISGUSTING

[lethal lagoon]

So it's even more than just -60% toughness replenishment

It might even be closer to 65-70 in practice

So ER is a bit of a clown

Cause it's deceptive in how it reduces your toughness regen

[burnt valley]

so if i had this + essense harvest ill be chillin anyway

[lethal lagoon]

Of course, this only applies to quietiude, warp expen, and 10-33% toughness DR

[burnt valley]

or should i flip these round

[nocturne dust]

while true, the peril gen red is absolutely worth it with the right build

[lethal lagoon]

I take it almost every build

I'm just pointing out the downside is way worse than you'd think

[strong gulch]

All true, but have you considered 17% warp resist trauma.

[nocturne dust]

Just don't get hit, e z

[nocturne dust]

Have you considered not dying?

[strong gulch]

Eat every shot and never dodge. (I really should die more tbh).

[nocturne dust]

If you don't die, your games will go much smoother

[burnt valley]

trying to do a smite surge build but i feel im just trolling myself trying

[strong gulch]

[nocturne dust]

It's a protip from the God Emperor himself

[split lance]

if i level combat knife on psyker does it also level it for zealot

[wind spruce]

https://outplayed.tv/warhammer-40k-darktide/Xnazld

doesn't appear to work

[nocturne dust]

si

[strong gulch]

mastery only

[split lance]

not the weapon itself right

like i cant use same ds4 between classes

[nocturne dust]

individual weapons aren't shared but mastery is

[split lance]

wanna play sum

[burnt valley]

Me actually leaning towards a build on psyker with no keystones

[nocturne dust]

what is your UI

[wind spruce]

aesthetic perfection

[nocturne dust]

Not really judging, my own UI is a mess, but looks weird

[burnt valley]

Cant help but feel like smite build and keystone doesnt work

could just be me tho

[wind spruce]

It's ridiculously strong

[nocturne dust]

which keystone?

DD ain't doing crap

with smite

[burnt valley]

not a fan of gaze personally

[nocturne dust]

but EP is like the strongest build

with smite

[wind spruce]

Could be a bit rough, I ain't playing with ping and there's no one queueing on aus servers this time of day

[strong gulch]

Valid. This is for surge lmb spam.

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/uncanny-emoji-angry-hakayaki-hakayaki-angry-emoji-gif-13101565263917230073

[patent mango]

wuh...

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/fine-alright-all-good-no-worries-gif-10604362

[burnt valley]

ofc but i just feel i still have to trade a lot away from surge usability

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/i'm-not-fine-debbie-grayson-invincible-i'm-not-okay-i-need-help-gif-587321230464171351

[burnt valley]

seeing as surge not taking mettle and perfect timing is kinda troll

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/knockout-city-dodgeball-gif-26070508

surge lmb spam

[nocturne dust]

...why is that the either or?

[wind spruce]

got so close to finishing this duo mael run with a random pug 😦

i forgot how hard gunker is when you're not running assail

[ivory path]

What do you guys use for dump stat on surge staff? Quell speed?

[strong gulch]

warp resist

[burnt valley]

not an either or statement more just a limiting factor on points if u put 2 points in smite

[nocturne dust]

🤔 I'm not seeing what you're seeing

[split lance]

rip

[strong gulch]

Yeah smite build is smite focused, so a lot of what pumps surge up is sacrificed, but that's also the point.

[burnt valley]

its a smite + surge build that has PC and WF unless u only take those when using scream psyker

[split lance]

ill run on ping i dont mind but up to you

[burnt valley]

so ill be chillin if i just dumb the PC and WF shit

[ivory path]

so something along these lines?

[nocturne dust]

I'd make a build but gameslantern is down 😭

[strong gulch]

Perfect.

[wind spruce]

aight lets try it

[strong gulch]

Assuming no rounding errors.

[split lance]

bet

[wind spruce]

see if we get any team mates

[burnt valley]

all good u take the standard 3 points ep overpower and charge up

[split lance]

im in vc 40k brb tho getting some water

[burnt valley]

@nocturne dust top and bot of the tree

as i assume that pc pairs well with smite

[nocturne dust]

Yeah that seems alright. I would drop shield for venting shriek if you want the meta murder, but otherwise yeh

[burnt valley]

should i try and squeeze in wildfire or not bother

[nocturne dust]

I don't think you have anything less valuable than wildfire

[burnt valley]

can always drop 2nd shield 🙂

[nocturne dust]

other than maybe a smite node

[burnt valley]

tend to fat finger it anyway

[nocturne dust]

I suppose. I normally take bubble over walls anyway.

[burnt valley]

i'd drop quietude but i feel psyker not having that is troll af

[nocturne dust]

I would never drop quietude

[burnt valley]

or just drop enfeeble

enfeeble doesnt increase the dmg of smite itself does it

[nocturne dust]

I think it does, but neither of the smite nodes do much

[burnt valley]

didnt the + 1 node increase how many units total it can hold

[silk otter]

What is the ideal voidblast stat spread?

[nocturne dust]

Uh, I don't think so? iirc it just increases spread rate. It was less important than enfeeble in testing when I was messing around with it.

[nocturne dust]

dump warp res

[burnt valley]

me just dumping quell speed as i never not having the quell increase 😄

likely trolling my self but oh well

[nocturne dust]

eh, I mean, quell speed isn't super important either

[burnt valley]

hmm i forgot force sword perks on my new crafted one xD

flak man still right

or can i do elite cheesy stuff with a max 80 one now

would it not be all warp dmg scales based of ur primary staff attack

atleast thats how i read it anyway

[steep frost]

Maybe a stacking debuff, increasing the warp damage they take?

[restive ice]

left click staff hit bad guy
bad guy takes more damage from warp attack (staff, blitz, soulblaze, etc)

[blazing drift]

guys which mod for the purge staff debuff?

[leaden thunder]

do we know how it funcitons with the purges primary?

since it's aoe

[burnt valley]

shock doesnt work on purg staff

[timid sphinx]

good perks for duelist sword y'all?

duelling sword

[broken carbon]

uncanny precognition

[burnt valley]

when someone says perks but gives blessings

[placid crypt]

Maniac + Carapace works well

[unique mist]

if i wanted to make a Showstopper purgatus staff, what second blessing woudl you recommend?

[leaden thunder]

not

[burnt valley]

better question would be why

[restive ice]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-duck-gif-1363576254939741235

[leaden thunder]

showstopper is incredibly disapointing

it's not as fun as it sounds unfortunately, was like that on the flamer too

[jovial juniper]

Blaze Away

[leaden thunder]

but yes blaze would be your best bet

[wind spruce]

https://outplayed.tv/warhammer-40k-darktide/b8aY6Z

smol clutch

[unique mist]

is it that good?

[jovial juniper]

Yeah it's easy to stack

[leaden thunder]

• power is almost always good so long as you can actually make it work

and blaze is easy to make work

[burnt valley]

should probs put crit chance on it

[leaden thunder]

didn't even realize they gave it pen flame as well

[burnt valley]

testing the pen flame perk

if i dont like it ima go nexus instead

[leaden thunder]

we be running it on the flamer so i'd assume it's good, but purge also has nexus as an option

[ornate hamlet]

Best blessings for Voidblast staff?

[nocturne dust]

Nexus is better, pen flame doesn't really help you do anything interesting

and I say that as someone that uses pen flame because I can

[burnt valley]

I mean crits dont really = anything interesting either tho

for inferno

[nocturne dust]

wdym, they = more burny burny

[leaden thunder]

double durn stacks

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/yesss-fire-mistazelf-excited-restaurant-gif-22088135

[wind spruce]

when someone says perk but references a blessing

[burnt valley]

took u awhile to notice 😄

[strong gulch]

Fatshark renamed them.

[nocturne dust]

Hey guys, how we liking the voidblast perk? What about the blaze away talent?

[ornate hamlet]

has someone made a vigilant autogun build

[patent mango]

disrupt destiny ability

[ornate hamlet]

I heard they're brand new

[wind spruce]

https://outplayed.tv/warhammer-40k-darktide/oVP8JN

when your whole team leaves you hanging 😦

[waxen jackal]

Geeze heresy absolutely demolished me

[split plinth]

Hey I am new to Psyker and looking to take it into T5 Auric Levels is there a bread and butter build for that?

[ornate hamlet]

Assail, disrupt destiny, scrier's gaze with warp unbound and peril cleave

[split plinth]

Do you have a link for all talents and such?

i have my weapons planned out already

[magic kayak]

Purg staff with venting shriek and WS

[split plinth]

Do you have a link for all the talents and such.

[burnt valley]

sounds like a slur to me

[split plinth]

id believe you if the 4th person was named Tilly

[crisp yacht]

what weapons do you want to use?

[split plinth]

Laz Pistol and Blaze Force Sword/Shock Maul

Mostly cause i wanna cross level the Laz Pistol for my Vet

but any staff builds/ suggestions are welcome

[crisp yacht]

something like this is would be good force sword/las pistol build i think

[split plinth]

Thank you. Just need something quick to get through leveling. Once im 30 my friend was gonna help me with my build. But again thank you so much

[rose lily]

do we know if palpatine electrocution pairs with the shock maul's electrocution?
(for blessings and talents?)

[dark frigate]

guys

bolt pistol, mk iv blaze sword, smite, and venting shriek

I feel like a goddamn epistolary

[fringe tangle]

electro has extra blessing points?

[split plinth]

might be a visual bug

ive had that happen to me before

[weary arrow]

does anyone have a lmb staff guide? i see bunch of psykers go around leftclicking everything to death but when i tried it it sucked. Or maybe i sucked, regardless a build guide will be appreciated

[autumn smelt]

how fast were they leftclicking, was it like a machine gun

[weary arrow]

i dont really remember. is that important?

[vocal socket]

anyone have a screenshot of an inferno staff talent build, since gameslantern is down?

[rose lily]

electro on shock maul yeah

[mighty cipher]

So many new players. Amazing.

[cobalt bone]

btw is 17% max on toughness curio?

[fringe tangle]

No, electro staff. It has extra blessing points when maxed out. Maybe there's a cut blessing, but they left the extra blessing points in.

[fringe tangle]

yes

[cobalt bone]

lucky me darn

first time i seen that in my 300hrs xD

always thought 16% was max ._.

[mighty cipher]

Do you not check brunt?

Or Melk?

[cobalt bone]

not all the time

[brazen rampart]

Yes. Spamming lmb is normal, but some people use a macro with quell canceling and that's illegal according to fatshark.

If it was a nonstop stream of firebolts, then they were using a macro.

[spice veldt]

lmb bolt is especially strong if you're building crit

for some reason it just has high finesse multipliers

[wind spruce]

HURRY UP @split lance

[cobalt bone]

i can sometimes do it quite consistently but need to be careful not to blow up xD

[brazen rampart]

No, no, you don't understand what I'm saying.

It's a constant stream of firebolts.

As in they are touching each other.

Only macros can pull that off.

[latent mauve]

You’d hate me

With my 10 min smoke break every game

[wind spruce]

EVERY DAMN GAME?

I go for a smoke every 2 or 3

[latent mauve]

Yeah

[brazen rampart]

Dorn fell to the propaganda of the smoke commercials from family guy.

[latent mauve]

Must rest the hands after 10k clicks in one game

[ornate hamlet]

smonk

[zinc phoenix]

I saw a dude who went knife with void on lmb. Looked like he was running both the bolt side and the melee side of the tree with bb and shriek, didn’t seem like he had a keystone. Very interesting build

[ornate hamlet]

I don't get people who smoke

like bro, you putting a phallic object in your mouth and you telling me you inhale what's in it

[zinc phoenix]

They’re trying to get the maximum value out of other people’s taxes

[wind spruce]

Sounds like a good time

[thorn cedar]

its just a dogshit addiction, nothing mysterious

[zinc phoenix]

Oh and he had five wounds or something ridic

Really wacky build, I liked it

[rose lily]

oh ok, yeah

i'm stoked on how well electro staff goes with one of the "charge full and get boosted" talents on the left on the tree

[magic kayak]

I'm not even using blaze away and getting 700-800 kills a match on auricd with purg staff. Just using the brittle one to help team kill everything. Might switch to blaze away to see how it does

[latent mauve]

If I get cancer I’m throwing myself into a volcano

Dw

[red wind]

what's the best blitz for the skilled in psykhana penance? bb?

[fringe tangle]

Yeah, it's pretty nice. The primary attack staff builds are pretty fun.

I do wish surge cloned the lightning bolts though.

[rose lily]

hmm how do you mean clone?

[nocturne dust]

bro is scared of sausages

[ornate hamlet]

do you inhale sausages

[restive ice]

https://tenor.com/view/hot-dog-straw-gif-22095372

[nocturne dust]

What else are you supposed to do, let them rot?

https://tenor.com/view/too-much-food-food-coma-inhaling-food-kirby-gif-15288496

[late sapphire]

dump ethereal shards & tranquility through slaughter for warp rider @split plinth

ethereal shards is sucky if you have warp splitting (base cleave 2, ethereal shards +1, warp splitting +1 at low perils, +2 at medium perils)

tranquility through slaughter kinda does nothing for you imo

warp rider is good

[nocturne dust]

does warp splitting not stack with ethereal shards?

[late sapphire]

it does

but 4 targets is enough

imo

[nocturne dust]

never enough

[late sapphire]

and compared to warp rider...

[nocturne dust]

true, but I'd rather dump the shard regen

[fringe tangle]

Like it creates a second lightning bolt when you crit, much like how the normal bolts and the voidstrike bolts do.

[fringe tangle]

It does, you can get loads of kills on ragers with that

[fiery wigeon]

did they change how wildfire works at all?

[late sapphire]

no

[fiery wigeon]

i just reinstalled and am whacked in the face with an overhaul of my main's tree i am so excited

[fiery wigeon]

riiip

[late sapphire]

Maybe

Depends on which force sword he takes i guess

With an illsi you really dont need the shards to cleave much

[dusk void]

FUCK DARKTIDE SERVERS!!!!!!!!!!! IT KICKED ME OUT AT THE END OF THE MISSION. STUPID FUCKING FATSHARK NEEDS TO GET THEIR SHIT TOGETHER FOR THIS STUPID FUCKING SERVER PROBLEM. I HAVE BEEN KICKED OUT OF MISSIONS SOLEY DUE TO SERVER ERRORS AND I AM 5 SECONDS AWAY FROM LOSING MY SHIT

[nocturne dust]

Sibling, the server problems will never go away. It is simply Chaos messing with you.

[late sapphire]

You should try forming a good enough connection to the randoms that they wait a minute or two for you if you dc

[nocturne dust]

[rose lily]

ohhh ok

[dusk void]

I AM TRYING TO COMPLETE THE EVENT AND IT KICKED ME OUT!!!!!

[wind spruce]

3 targets*

[late sapphire]

4...

[dusk void]

You know what. Fuck the event. I have too much of this anyways

[potent echo]

My mats aren't even going down

Make new build, run like 3-4 games per build, everything comes back

[late sapphire]

I bankrupted myself

[nocturne dust]

Try harder

No runs, only build

[late sapphire]

Upgrading weapons to 500 is expensive man

[potent echo]

To roll or what

Ew build to rot in the digital sarcophagus?

[weary arrow]

anyone uses assail with disrupt destiny?

[nocturne dust]

build to test soon™️

the ole Fatshark soon

[wind spruce]

My b thought you meant ethereal shards by itself

[nocturne dust]

reading hard

[wind spruce]

Why scroll up for context when u can get things wrong

[plucky flax]

Yes

[weary arrow]

is it any good? or EP better?

[plucky flax]

They are both good. Dd increase damage from your melee and range too. I think ever since the dd duration buff it's better

[fiery wigeon]

what does the "electric effect on heavy" smite passive actually do

[weary arrow]

electric staff charged attack

[fiery wigeon]

ooh

[pure junco]

Anyone else getting a bug with destiny keystone breaking sometimes and not counting the 10 second talent

[rose lily]

am i reading this right for Empyric Resolve?

it's a win-lose telent

[cold hornet]

Yes, but it's very WIN

[fiery wigeon]

-40% is massive

-30% toughness is a sizeable chunk too but you can just not get hit :P

makes it easier to not get hit when you have a bajillion peril to use to kill everything

[potent echo]

I don't get peril reduction though

If you edge it's kind useless

[nocturne dust]

Peril management is actually a lot of time

peril reduction means less time spent managing peril

[fiery wigeon]

^

[potent echo]

If you edge its like maybe you only need to quell 1 tic instead of 2

But with quell speed it's like 🤷‍♂️

[patent jacinth]

I have gone entire hordes with Inferno without venting cause of that node

[potent echo]

How is that a good thing

Means no nexus or rider value

[nocturne dust]

add in some sort of passive quelling like battle meditation and you may never need to quell

[patent jacinth]

It just proves a point

[potent echo]

Colour me confused

[nocturne dust]

The value out of these isn't really different if you don't edge anyway, they just have longer value cycles instead

[pure junco]

Bump

[nocturne dust]

and edging is dumb

but even if you do edge, it's still beneficial. Stack it with other forms of peril gen reduction for madness.

[potent echo]

If I'm playing WC I want insane peril gen so I can keep spamming creeping

I can see some value for shield builds but also crack of bone exists

[nocturne dust]

well, your first problem is using shriek

Don't

[potent echo]

Huh

Shriek bad now

[nocturne dust]

It's not a build for shrieking, it's a build for SG

[potent echo]

Ah

Should have clarified

[nocturne dust]

I mean you can use shriek with it, but SG works much better with it

just like you can use bubble

It's not terrible with shriek, I think I still use shriek and ER with purgatus, but you'll definitely be fighting to build peril and have to play differently, lol.

[vocal socket]

does empyric shock apply to purg/inferno?

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/luna-cat-shaking-head-gif-13593506101986476598

[buoyant maple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/985983134275366943/1290532370029477929/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2024.10.01_-_00.34.14.11.mp4?ex=66fccd6d&is=66fb7bed&hm=00cb19d01fbc080b15dcfdf688ff4424dfa6e352e73c549d0d4ce5b7f6334e48&

Very funny

[rose lily]

what changes did they make to the electro staff since this big update?

[fringe tangle]

Penetration of soul is not very good. Vet gets that without peril. Would be better if it work exactly like Warp Rider, make it up to a 20% rending bonus as well.

[buoyant maple]

Surge blessing is super funny

[fringe tangle]

Ogryn also has a shit version of vets rending skill, his requires elite kills to become active.

[potent echo]

If it worked on non warp attacks too it would be decent-ish

So my tacaxe psyker can do something vs crushers lmao

[fringe tangle]

Yeah true

Or if they really want it only on warp attacks, just remove activation condition and make it a flat 15% rending bonus, that would be ok.

[potent echo]

Assail brrr

[dusk void]

I really feel like FatShark didn't know what they were doing with these two nodes here. Why is souldrinker on the right side of the tree when all of the soulblaze talents is on the left side of the tree? I feel like these two nodes need to switch places. Also, how can I complain to FatShark about this and the server errors?

[fringe tangle]

Yeah, I noticed that as well, they 100% should switch the placing and maybe make Perilous Assault do something in addition to swap speed. Psykers stuff swaps pretty fast by default.

[proper osprey]

How does that one talent work that gives you 40% peril reduction but 30%less toughness regen?

Like as in all regen?

Or just coherence

[fringe tangle]

Maybe movement speed buff could scale with peril? Although that might feel a bit wonky having sudden speed boost, so better have it be ranged attack speed instead.

[fringe tangle]

You build up peril 40% less and your toughness regens 30% less. As in if you were to regen 10 toughness, you would get 7 instead.

[dusk void]

Great for staff psykers to deal out more warp attacks, but also makes you more fragile

[fringe tangle]

The downside doesn't generally matter a lot, like if you have enough regen stacked it won't matter a lot, but if you only have a few ways to regen toughness you will notice the debuff a lot more.

A good way to balance out the debuff can be to take maxed bubble shield, since that regens toughness quick and blocks the bullets.

[dusk void]

Wouldn't souldrinker help in that case to regenerate toughness since you would kill enemies with the soulblaze applied to them?

You'd kill a lot of heretics with the large aoe being casted

[fringe tangle]

yes, that can help quite a bit. Also note the soul blazed enemies don't have to die from the fire damage, they can die from anything and it still counts as them dying from soul blaze.

[proper osprey]

I hate that soul drinker is all the way on the right side of the tree

[fringe tangle]

yeah, should be switched as @dusk void said above.

[dusk void]

Then you'd say that souldrinker is a useful node to help with the repercussions of the -30% toughness regeneration

[proper osprey]

Unless they either rework it again or increase the level cap I see no need for it

But it is amazing

Extremely good

But not point efficient

[strong gulch]

@wet bronze @split lance @left walrus I forget who asked, but this is the mod that said when I put down a healing pack.
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/161

[split lance]

THANK YOU

[fringe tangle]

It is, but is just poorly placed in the skill tree. Better to just grab Soulstealer since that's basically the same skill, but regens a bit more.

[dusk void]

Soulstealer is based on warp attack kills. Souldrinker applies to literally anything. I'll complain to FatShark about it, if I can

[fringe tangle]

yeah, please do. I want to see perilous assault and souldrinker switched.

[dusk void]

But you only need 6 stacks of soulblaze to kill trash mobs and non-elite gunners. I'll still complain

[proper osprey]

[weary arrow]

is true aim worth 2 points for assail psyker?

[proper osprey]

Evil ass psyker if that happens

[proper osprey]

Yeah I like it

Imagine if you could mix blitzs

Imagine bb with assail

[potent echo]

True aim mix with melee is amazing

Melee a few times, throw one crit assail

Big pp

[proper osprey]

I think ep should be reworked as well

Like a big aoe of bb or shotgun assail

Would be evil

Still don’t like building around my blitzes though

[fringe tangle]

Give EP assail splash damage lmao.

exploding blue pebbles

[proper osprey]

That wouldn’t be bad

I would love more stacks than 3!

[fringe tangle]

yeah, maybe assail should only consume half a stack.

[dusk void]

Them crack rocks to me

[proper osprey]

If I’m gonna build around my blitz I’ll need that

[split lance]

hey so

melk is obsolete now isnt he

whats dump stat on chainsword

[weary arrow]

man, i just need like 2-3 more skill points to get everything i want... increase lvl cap by 5 already!

[fringe tangle]

mobility

[split lance]

siiiiiiiick

brunt coming in clutvh

[fringe tangle]

it's pretty easy to get perfect weapons from brunts now, usually takes like 5 rolls on average, although sometimes takes up to 10.

[sturdy tendon]

Mobility/Defense is pretty much the default dump stat

[split lance]

ooh its in the requestions not from rolling

[dusk void]

Also, thanks @near wyvern for creating this psyker guide. Love doing my build research on here https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959

[fringe tangle]

oh, nice then.

[sturdy tendon]

I wish Zealot had something like this, finding info on weapons is pretty annoying

The new Veteran one is pretty good though

[shrewd comet]

is assail any good?

[sturdy tendon]

Yes

[fiery wigeon]

assail is great

[sturdy tendon]

The best blitz for lower difficulties, falls off a bit on heresy and damnation but remains solid

[fiery wigeon]

decent trash clear and the aimed fire can take out lots of lower health hvts on its own

[elder glade]

Yea, assail is pretty good

[sturdy tendon]

Your blitz should compliment your ranged and melee weapons

Take whatever blitz can help you with what your build struggles with

[fiery wigeon]

yeah

[late sapphire]

Tried out dueling sword zealot (knives-charge-piety tree)

It's so good

You kill weakened monstrosities in seconds

And unlike the thammer you kill everything else in seconds also

[sturdy tendon]

I need to make a proper DS for my Zealot and Vet

But I am so dry on diamantine

[late sapphire]

It's so good

Don't listen to the zealots though

They recommend thrust precog, it sucks ass

[sturdy tendon]

Already have maxed mastery from all my blessings pre update

[late sapphire]

I'm running uncanny precog now, together with all of the buffs you crusher onetap when you're in the thick of it anyways

[plucky flax]

I run uncanny precog on zealot too.

[sturdy tendon]

I use Thrust on my Psyker for Mutie one shots

But see no point on Zealot and Vet

[plucky flax]

If you want uncanny riposte/shred is also really good for even more crits damage.

[late sapphire]

I also dumped the ranged and boss damage nodes at the top for the melee damage on swing one on the bottom

Fuck ranged damage man

[late sapphire]

Piety build so i already have lots of crit

[sturdy tendon]

At least it's braindead easy to make proper weapons, just so damn costly

[plucky flax]

Yes.

[late sapphire]

Better to up finesse than crit at that point

Quadratic growth n all that

[sturdy tendon]

I need some curios on my, Zealot stuck on Martyr until I get some toughness and health curios

[late sapphire]

Dump melkbux

[sturdy tendon]

Yeah I should

[late sapphire]

Idk what curios i run

3stam health toughness maybe

[plucky flax]

Some guy called Unsanctioned playing really bad zealot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hS0cARX_OAk

[sturdy tendon]

That's what I run on Vet tbh

Pretty solid set up by default

[late sapphire]

i have unyielding cara on my ds

only for monstrosity mael though

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/784851933315858462/1290546049571885120/image.png?ex=66fcda2b&is=66fb88ab&hm=b4f75f2f2bc15af9331218957fe896a218f5e31d43a87fa36e5aeb7395e062f7&

this was last run

[sturdy tendon]

How's the horde clear though?

[late sapphire]

800k damage 700k overkill damage

does that answer the question?

[plucky flax]

I have flak for extra horde clear against bruisers.

[sturdy tendon]

Well, I am mostly playing Thammer so it probably is better than it at the least

[late sapphire]

ds4 cleave sucks

ds5 heavies suck more

ds4 with buffs up can easily upkeep in a horde

You can kill fast enough to clear paths through the horde and move freely, even

Just not wipe it out directly

People like running ds4 flamer for that reason, i run ds4 zarona revolver to reach enemies through the horde

[sturdy tendon]

What side ark do you bring with the DS?

Oh Zarona DS is nice idea

[late sapphire]

ds2 is underrated i think

you get access to one good heavy and one bad heavy, and the lights are better at horde clear than ds4

[sturdy tendon]

Already have good revolvers on both vet and Zealot

[late sapphire]

if you h1 l1 or h1 special you do well with the ds2

[plucky flax]

I haven't been to zealot chat in 10 years since they told me my martyrdom loner stealth build was trash.

[sturdy tendon]

Zealot chat is weird

[late sapphire]

Man

It feels so good to have zealot melee QoL

Melee psyker fucks but it also sucks when you get hit and then die instantly

[sturdy tendon]

Yeah, melee on Zealot is just so much more survivable

[late sapphire]

On zealot i can fuck around knowing i have immortality long enough to kill a crusher pack in my back pocket

[sturdy tendon]

Meanwhile Psyker you get done in by the slightest breeze

[summer musk]

melee psyker is like "i am god, i am incredible, look at these moves, you can't catch me- i have fallen and I can't get up"

[late sapphire]

Outside of that the piety crits with precog and duelist up are insane

4 headshots kill a weakened monstrosity

[mossy oyster]

gunker melee feels amazing until you dont dodge 1 shotgunner or 1 gunner

https://tenor.com/view/kanye-west-kanyewest-yeezy-meme-gif-22503154

[sturdy tendon]

That's something that always saddens me when I play Psyker

The monstrosity damage is usually garbage

[mossy oyster]

use an Agri and a DS4 or a knife

or a CiAG

laspistol burn isnt too bad either same with lasguns

[sturdy tendon]

I usually run Surge Illisi Smite

[mossy oyster]

ah sorry for your loss

tickling the monstrosity

[sturdy tendon]

But I recently started playing more Burger staff

[late sapphire]

Ngl

a ds4, overconfidence and a dream

that's all you need

[summer musk]

I used to play a brain burst/flamestaff/shriek psyker that was a boss melter but it wasn't quite as fast as like, a vet just sneezing kraks and deleting the beast of nurgle

[late sapphire]

You can hit a BoN in its weakspot from the front btw, with the ds4 pokes

[sturdy tendon]

Yeah, I just let my teammates deal with it while I handle the horde

Bonbon is the easier monstrosity tbh

[late sapphire]

Surge does serviceable monstrosity damage if you swapcancel the lightning

Easiest is plague ogryn no question

[mossy oyster]

if you have a bubble

[sturdy tendon]

Unless you don't have a place to fall back to

[late sapphire]

Predictable attacks big head

Dodge poke repeat dead

To 1v1, that is... i guess in a teamfight BoN is the simplest

[sturdy tendon]

Bonbon is slow and you can infinitely kite it

[late sapphire]

Same with the other two

[sturdy tendon]

Spawn is undoubtedly the hardest though

[late sapphire]

Hop obstacles and use ledges

Like in dead by daylight

Spawn is hardest because it throws me through walls

[sturdy tendon]

It also has a grab that can go through all your wounds if no one is nearby

[plucky flax]

Surge is good against monster.

[late sapphire]

My issue with the grab is more that when it lets you go, it puts you a solid 2m in front of it and usually out of the map into instadeath

[mossy oyster]

not fast enough for my liking

but I wont deny it can do damage

[plucky flax]

It won't compete with vet krak or thunder hammer.

But each crit is close to 2k damage.

[mossy oyster]

ive seen it do good dmg in 3VEG before

[late sapphire]

Surge is a solid '2nd best boss dps in average team'

[plucky flax]

It's faster than BB.

[mossy oyster]

its just not to my personal level of speed

agri scriers though

now that is fun

[late sapphire]

agri?

[steel flame]

jesus christ they NEVER should have givin dueling saber to zealot, im level fucking 16 with a 340 ds4 with t1 blessings. in no universe should i be out damaging 3 30+ players this handily

[late sapphire]

You mean viag

[mossy oyster]

no

agri revo

[late sapphire]

Hm

it's alright

[late sapphire]

it's so good man

[steel flame]

dueling saber should have stayed with psyker cause now its gonna catch nerfs

[late sapphire]

Wait until you find out how easy it is to fight monstrosities as a ds zealot

[potent echo]

It's probably more a player issue

[potent echo]

If it does it's fine with me tbh

People need to suffer with me on tacaxe

[steel flame]

pls god no

[late sapphire]

ds was fittingly powerful for psyker

imagine illsi zealot horde clear

[sturdy tendon]

At least the Deimos will remain for single target if the DS gets nerfed

[steel flame]

like ds4 is a fucking power house on psyker, but even then it couldnt cruise through damnation at 16 with shit blessings and half a skill tree

on zealot its pure bullshit

[late sapphire]

Yeah

On psyker the ds can only ever be a sidearm

Maybe two or three of your talents benefit it

On zealot? My entire tree is invested into the ds... even dumped the super good ranged damage node for more ds power, and it just works

[sturdy tendon]

It's my reliable mutie one shotter for Burger runs

[plucky flax]

How do you 1 shot mutie?

Need to soften it first

[sturdy tendon]

Thrust

[late sapphire]

By stabbing it duh