psyker-class

[radiant frigate]

yes hello

it was my fault

[gleaming orchid]

hi kat

[radiant frigate]

hi doublecough

[gleaming orchid]

im blaming you for pinging me

[radiant frigate]

i accept the blame, for it was I that pinged you

[gleaming orchid]

lol, shadowhearts in that screenshot

it was worth it to ping me

you’re forgiven

[radiant frigate]

🙏🏻

[gleaming orchid]

🤝

[radiant frigate]

🤝

[gleaming orchid]

i actually want to play psyker today but im still working

[radiant frigate]

my condolences

[strong gulch]

I don't have the armor, but I do have a number of these hoods.

[zinc phoenix]

tried this out in an auric, not bad. i ended up dropping the quell passive for psykinetic as i felt naked without the screeching. general burgatus complaint of slow, boring and insufficient ragdoll tho LOL

[ornate hamlet]

Yes

It's pretty nice. Plus all black, lol

Trauma

[dawn crypt]

whats the dump stat for dueling sword and combat axe

[strong gulch]

mobility

[dawn crypt]

for both right?

[ornate hamlet]

Do you have a specific one you're using ?

[small whale]

thank

[wind spruce]

Cleave damage for duelling sword

[dawn crypt]

combat axe i always use rashad or antax. and dueling sword not really, i kinda experiment with em

[small whale]

isnt it cleave damage

[dawn crypt]

oops antax sucks now, so rashad i guess

[strong gulch]

Mobility first then cleave damage.

But in this perfect weapon economy, you don't have to settle.

[small whale]

i know zealots/vets use it for hordeclear kinda but psyker really only needs it for muties/crushers/maulers

[wind spruce]

Mobility is more valuable imo

[ornate hamlet]

Chain axe build coming soon....as off work 😅🤣

[wind spruce]

We live and die by swift movement

[wind spruce]

It's fun

[strong gulch]

True, but I suppose it depends on builds.

[ornate hamlet]

Oh fuck yeah, sweet 😋

[strong gulch]

If you are doing gunker, more mobility and what not.

[mossy oyster]

wait

[small whale]

also my gf uses uncanny on the dueling sword mk iv, i was thinking thrust would be better than shred but it still doesnt one shot crushers

[mossy oyster]

theres 3 of them

I knew there was black / and red

[ornate hamlet]

Beloved Zarona 😅

[mossy oyster]

of course the last hood is just

black but slightly 2% more gilded

on the tassels

[small whale]

theres supposed to be a gray one too

coming soon prob

[wind spruce]

It does if you have DD/scriers

[small whale]

ahh

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-40k-psyker-explode-perils-gif-10586129510772702813

[strong gulch]

MORE PEG LEGS WHEN

[small whale]

so uncanny and riposte might be better than thrust or shred for non dd/scrier

[ornate hamlet]

Right?! Peg legs 40k 🦵 🦿 🍗

[mossy oyster]

soyker needs more blind folds/capes

until we get more

I will keep saying this

no more fucking toilet lids

[ornate hamlet]

Bring me more skin tight leather battle gear....

But make it metal 🤘

[wind spruce]

Yeah riposte is still the best generalist blessing to go with uncanny. If you're running a ranged weapon and blitz that can't deal with monstrosities I'd suggest relentless strikes

Thrust is pretty good too though

[strong gulch]

Oh right!! Do you know if cleave damage is working properly?

[wind spruce]

Helps with mutant oneshots on shit builds aka any build without DD

[small whale]

i think it still doesnt quite hit the mutie one shot breakpoint with thrust too unless u crit

[wind spruce]

It should be? But... who cares? It's a minor difference against just hordes

[strong gulch]

You can get the one shot with no crit thrust.

[raw token]

whats dd

[wind spruce]

It easily does with the maniac perk

[small whale]

disrupt destiny

[wind spruce]

Big booba

[small whale]

I'll need to test

[strong gulch]

I was asking because wasn't also supposed to have flak damage?

[raw token]

i dont use dd and get one shot muties almost 100% of the time

[strong gulch]

I remember Arco talking about it then I forgot.

[wind spruce]

If you have zero other horde clear flak on DS might be needed

But it can oneshot every flak enemy except ragers with a heavy, so it's really only for lights against like bruisers

[strong gulch]

I mean cleave damage working correctly also includes flak damage.

[wind spruce]

Except that you don't

You need all six warp charges and like 40% peril or something

[wind spruce]

I can't remember the tooltip

[strong gulch]

It was talked about A LONG time ago by Arco. I don't remember when tho. I just wrote it off because it has been bugged forever, but I also never heard anyone mention it being fixed.

[raw token]

i literally always have warp charges

so i do

[wind spruce]

Interesting

[wind spruce]

Womp womp

[strong gulch]

Yeah. Cleave damage is supposed to do flak. I haven't tesing to see the different between a low and high rolled stat tho.

Not huge either way.

[wind spruce]

I'll test it tomorrow if I have time. I've also been meaning to test penetration at different uncanny stacks

[strong gulch]

Oh cool. I'm curious.

[vast hare]

How long has this final node on Scrier's gaze been broken for?

Is it new with the update or has fatshark been ignoring it ever since the talent rework?

[plucky flax]

New crucis hammer PogChimp

[gleaming orchid]

noot noot

mlem mlem

[strong gulch]

It's a new node. Broken for it's entire life.

[knotty sage]

5% ranged damage from talent tree also applies to smite and secondary from surge?

[hasty valve]

How would you adjust this voidstrike + illisi build? Took a break from psyker and a bit lost with the new talent tree

[wind spruce]

The first and most important thing is picking up creeping flames... you never EVER skip that with shriek

[nocturne dust]

depends, how drastic are you willing to have it changed

[hasty valve]

Yeah I cut some corners to get to some of the new stuff

[upper sun]

forget the quell get creeping flames

[wind spruce]

You cannot cut that corner.

[hasty valve]

Gotcha. Anything else?

[hasty valve]

The build works more or less in auric now, but I'm willing to try new stuff

The void has nexus and flurry

[summer prairie]

empathic evasion not very useful with void

[wind spruce]

You want perilous combustion too. I'd drop EE.

[nocturne dust]

You can drop the bottom node of DD

[upper sun]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9c439ff6-95a7-46b4-9c4f-e97fe58460a5/voidstrike-nuker

this is what i do with void

[upper sun]

also this

[wind spruce]

This bottom dropping of DD is seriously questionable but give it a try I suppose

[nocturne dust]

my voidstrike surge build

[upper sun]

it doesnt give you anything at max stacks

[summer prairie]

I don't like dropping it, it's very annoying to get the stacks up

[wind spruce]

The point is to help you maintain/get to max stacks...

[summer prairie]

depending on the map

[wind spruce]

Id also suggest not running illisi on a voidstrike/assail build

It's a mistake.

[hasty valve]

Alright, for the bottom dd I can always cut quell speed

[nocturne dust]

It ain't, actually.

[hasty valve]

Although I like quietude since the void cranks up the peril

[hasty valve]

Never had issues with the illisi with void

[wind spruce]

It absolutely is. You do not need horde clear with assail, shriek and void. You do need boss damage and to a lesser extent assistance with huge armour packs and mutants

[hasty valve]

Very quick and good at chopping heads when they get too close

[nocturne dust]

Disagree, especially since they dropped one of the nodes on assail

Illisi also has uncanny

[wind spruce]

Assail is the tertiary horde clear in the build so it's not really that relevant

[hasty valve]

I like it vs ragers and scattered gunners tho

[wind spruce]

(Thats not counting melee(

[nocturne dust]

I mean, you can't really use voidstrike to horde clear if you're not in narrow hallways, and shriek is problematic as your only horde clear imo

[wind spruce]

Yeah exactly. It's not really for horde clear.

[tacit stump]

huh the shock mace is fun

[wind spruce]

Maybe if you're bad

[nocturne dust]

no u

[plucky flax]

I am bad and I use extra dd stacks on headshot.

[nocturne dust]

He has neither psykinetic or warp siphon on this build. He gets to endure the cooldown.

[plucky flax]

I horde clear with assail creeping flames and void only in this clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYEhbVfPU6c

[nocturne dust]

you used kiting and a hallway...

[plucky flax]

I am allowed to run

[upper sun]

smh why does unsanctioned get to use assail with void and we have to use smite

[magic kayak]

You aren't allowed to use game mechanics I guess lol

[plucky flax]

I don't understand smite with void? \

Where shooters clear?

[summer prairie]

smite with just smite

[wind spruce]

You're supposed to move around and use terrain...

[summer prairie]

who said anything about void

[nocturne dust]

yes but I'm just saying, my point is it's pretty difficult to use assail/VS/shriek to horde clear without abusing AI pathing or a hallway

[analog agate]

I get what you are saying Dead. Being, void isn’t as good at horde clear as purg/trauma unless they are far and packed. Hence, why the illisi can make sense. Which I agree. I’d still say the “get better” route would apply though haha and use assail with with the ds

[upper sun]

me

[wind spruce]

Yeah if you stand still surrounded 360 degrees by enemies void is gonna struggle lmao

[upper sun]

wait is this the new patch?

[plucky flax]

Yes.

[upper sun]

just curious i thought you didnt use assail much because of the pathing

[plucky flax]

Wut for void?

Always use assail with void.

[nocturne dust]

Hot take but you people just need to get better at dealing with big targets so you don't have to rely on your crutch of a DS4

[upper sun]

what about on surge

[plucky flax]

Never on surge.

Assail is for shooters clearing.

Surge clear shooters so fast alreaady.

[upper sun]

🤔

thats too finger horty

ill just use assail

[nocturne dust]

I mean, if you don't use assail, what, you use... smite? BB? ew and ew

[plucky flax]

Assail and surge is meme but you do you.

[upper sun]

😭

noooooo

[wind spruce]

Taking FOUR methods of horde clear definitely isn't a crutch though

[summer prairie]

smite/bb only for pathing for psykinetic

[plucky flax]

Unless you are somehow playing surge without creeping flames.

[nocturne dust]

Assail and surge is perfectly fine, don't worry.

[upper sun]

i go the long way to creeping flames

[nocturne dust]

I mean, my hottest take is never take venting shriek outside of maybe purgatus

[carmine agate]

If assail do u get the cleave talent?

[upper sun]

yeah

[wind spruce]

That is a hot take

[upper sun]

but i dont think it does too much tbh

[carmine agate]

Not even blaze trauma? 👀

[wind spruce]

My not hot just correct take is never take bubble ever.

[upper sun]

i take BB for blaze trauma

[wind spruce]

Garbage ability.

[nocturne dust]

SG looking at you from a distance

aiming the shot

critting

[upper sun]

i just copy unsanctioned's build there

[wind spruce]

Always take SG

[upper sun]

but the surge mechanics are unironically painful for me to do

so assail is easier

[plucky flax]

Wut?

You just right click.

[summer prairie]

SG is kind of fun but doesn't do much when in a clutch situation

[wind spruce]

Yeah wot

[upper sun]

its way too many actions per minute

[wind spruce]

Clad are you broken

[upper sun]

idc what yall say

[plucky flax]

Bro you don't even have to aim.

You just charge then shoot.

[nocturne dust]

Bro use surge voidstrike

[upper sun]

using surge in higher threat levels is way more clicks than any other staff

[plucky flax]

It's so much easier than void.

[wind spruce]

It's less than any other ranged weapon with assail...

[carmine agate]

Most apm to me is surge surge lmb spam build.

[upper sun]

"nuh uh"

FINE

FINE

look

[plucky flax]

Don't do blitz cancel meme it's not needed.

[summer prairie]

yeah but I can do that without SG, it's just higher but unsafe dps when the team is dead

[plucky flax]

Just full charge surge.

[upper sun]

ill queue up with surge in a bit

ill first do agents build then mine

[wind spruce]

SG voidstrike is a meme

[carmine agate]

I just like zapping stuff

[magic kayak]

I do enjoy surge a lot. So far I'm having the most fun with gunker, burga, and surge

[nocturne dust]

Not the insanity of SG tho, you can clear reapers like trash

[magic kayak]

the heavy sword is jus sweet

[carmine agate]

Im having fun w both surge lmb and surge rmb builds 👀

[nocturne dust]

Do I really have to take a video? UGH

[wind spruce]

No, don't bother

We know how it works

[upper sun]

reminder than u get 1 view everytime we argue about builds so i can copy it @plucky flax

[nocturne dust]

No you freaking don't if you think it's a meme

[wind spruce]

Ok do it then

[plucky flax]

[nocturne dust]

Aw but then I have to take a video 😭

[plucky flax]

I try to make the easiest most powerful build unless I clearly state it's a meme.

[carmine agate]

I made 2 surge staff cos i was too lazy to swap blessings everytime

[leaden thunder]

nuffin wrong with that

in fact i'd recommend it over swaping between blessings everytime

[nocturne dust]

nuthin wong wit dat

[wind spruce]

The reason I don't think SG void is worth it is you don't end up with that much more crit chance than just edging with nexus

Send me your SG void build

[nocturne dust]

Imagine edging

[plucky flax]

@upper sun this is certified meme. DS5 on zealot WARP SPEED
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1290052232464699402/Untitled_video_-_Made_with_Clipchamp_3.mp4?ex=66fbb704&is=66fa6584&hm=1aba398b18335193a6851f513162d8576b646852f75fb85e9ad33800aa80953e&

[nocturne dust]

also they are both usable at the same time

[carmine agate]

Mm. Can you name ur staves?

[leaden thunder]

I have 2 eviserators and chainswords on my zealot, one for crit one for regular

[nocturne dust]

why drop 1 or the other, lol

[summer prairie]

well you get +40% dmg +30% finesse

[nocturne dust]

More surge, more balls

[plucky flax]

Bro's hand moves so fast you can't even see the sword it becomes a blur.

[nocturne dust]

this is the more meme less damage version, you swap the SG node otherwise

[wind spruce]

Yeah that's basically the same as my version

[nocturne dust]

So fast my internet couldn't keep up 😭

[plucky flax]

Only very pro players can play gazer void.

(not me)

[nocturne dust]

I'm your bargain bin pro player

[summer prairie]

you've to adjust your charge time based on how many SG stacks you have

surely everyone does that

[nocturne dust]

or just spam balls like a madman, the build stacks plenty of peril red

let the balls flow

[summer prairie]

I think most of the time the extra damage is wasted since I've no idea about the breakpoints with sg active

[nocturne dust]

that with battle meditation and no need to quell

[nocturne dust]

It is, but you output so much extra that it really doesn't matter. You can eat basically anything with this combo, from stacks of crushers, bosses, reapers, to hordes on an open field ned

[lethal lagoon]

I hate everything about this screenshot

I mean the build, i didn't even look at.

But those extra emphasis on the untaken lines is such bad design

[nocturne dust]

It's the website 🤷‍♂️

[lethal lagoon]

So clean, so beautiful

[nocturne dust]

Idk why the website gave me blue lines and what not

[echo bobcat]

Let's see Paul Allen's build template

[lethal lagoon]

[nocturne dust]

I agree yours looks better

[nocturne dust]

It might be one of my extensions, lol.

[wind spruce]

Are you running surge nexus

[nocturne dust]

si

[wet belfry]

is there a reason there are 0 blessings

[wind spruce]

Wot

[summer prairie]

go to mastery menu

click everything

[echo bobcat]

The mastery menu isn't at hadron

[steel flame]

It's in inventory

[nocturne dust]

It's in your inventory

[steel flame]

Jinx you owe me some amasec

[wet belfry]

so what you spend points to unlock blessings?

[steel flame]

Mmhmm

[echo bobcat]

Yes, in the masteries section of the operative menu

[nocturne dust]

I do not participate in jinx bylaws, I am a sovereign citizen

[carmine agate]

Unlock them and keep em forever. In any weap u wanna

[radiant frigate]

ah but bubble does The Funny™ vs bonbon

[steel flame]

Upper left circle shows how many points you need to spend till next tier of blessings

[radiant frigate]

and i really hate bonbon

[echo bobcat]

You have to spread the points across blessings to increase the blessing tier available

[nocturne dust]

Bubble is our one true savior

[echo bobcat]

Bubble is straight up godly vs bonbon and S tier in mostly melee mission types, half of the biggest threats are just able to be turned off.

[wind spruce]

S tier... in melee missions?! Why lol

[plucky flax]

Bubble in melee scab only

[echo bobcat]

It's mid ahh vs gunners on damn if you just place it where it gets gattted, but it's a run saver vs flamers trappers bombers in really dense sections.

[plucky flax]

Based.

[carmine agate]

Whats bonbon?

[echo bobcat]

I've even shielded DHS to stop bombers from setting them off.

Beast of nurgle.

[mossy oyster]

the dirty bubble when 10 maulers/5 bulwarks/ and 8 crushers run up on us

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-yakuza6-walking-tower-gif-27130594

[carmine agate]

Oh yea

[summer prairie]

that's why you take smite+bubble

[mossy oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/fall-asleep-sleepy-head-sleepy-gif-11967893

[echo bobcat]

Trauma bubble can feel literally unstoppable in ugly mixed horde situations.

[plucky flax]

I bet you are one of those dirty rending trauma player too.

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-emperor-palpatine-lightning-attack-power-gif-17421473

[echo bobcat]

Sometimes. I have a staff for each now.

[zinc phoenix]

Department of Homeland Security in da bubble

[nocturne dust]

I need more loadout slots

[plucky flax]

Me having 20+ loadouts.

[nocturne dust]

Yes I have the mod

[summer prairie]

are your loadouts also stuck

[echo bobcat]

I haven't started running mods yet but this possibility tempts me.

[summer prairie]

can't delete or change icon

[plucky flax]

It works for me.

[nocturne dust]

[plucky flax]

I can name them too.

[summer prairie]

sad

[carmine agate]

Can i rename staves? 👀

[nocturne dust]

Playing Darktide without mods is like drinking straight vanilla extract

[summer prairie]

I had set it to 24 slots

[nocturne dust]

with mods

[leaden thunder]

yum

[carmine agate]

Ah

[nocturne dust]

[carmine agate]

Gonna rename them lmb and rmb bcos its funny

[wet belfry]

so that means this abomination is apart of the world now

[echo bobcat]

I can't be making managing my buffs that don't always show up too easy. I enjoy trying to remember where those Bibles are, stoned as hell.

[wet belfry]

blazing spirit t4

[carmine agate]

Yes very neat

[lethal lagoon]

Aye brother it's so easy to roll a perfect staff nowdays, get that blast radius up

[wet belfry]

not at all op

[echo bobcat]

Wasn't bsp3 4 stacks anyway??

[lethal lagoon]

no

[echo bobcat]

Or am I trippin

[lethal lagoon]

You are trippin

[echo bobcat]

Word

[carmine agate]

Its 3 stacks iirc

[echo bobcat]

Is wildfire 4?

[nocturne dust]

health bars, peril bar, scoreboard, full auto, keep swinging...

[lethal lagoon]

wildfire is up to 4

[echo bobcat]

Or the other one PC?

[lethal lagoon]

3 is PC

[nocturne dust]

heck I use spidey sense because of hearing issues too. Accessibility, my beloved.

[lethal lagoon]

PC was 4 at some point I believe

Not even hearing issues, there's just too many sound queues, I can't hear bursters

[echo bobcat]

The audio has been inconsistent AF for weeks imo

[lethal lagoon]

And sometimes bursters still bug and are just 100% silent

I've turned around and been like inside a burster before

stealthy buggers

[nocturne dust]

Didn't notice, too busy not hearing

[echo bobcat]

Anyone been getting mariod by crushers or maulers lately? That's been fun. Idk if it's latency related or just a thing.

[strong gulch]

@wind spruce Cleave damage is still bugged. 45 and 80 provide the same numbers on flak.

[nocturne dust]

I have noticed a lot of extra lag after the update

feels like this happens every update

[chrome linden]

what kind of stats do i want on my curios? the perks i mean

[nocturne dust]

Depends

[echo bobcat]

I've never had a mauler swing on me as it was falling from above before like last week and I've seen it happen a few times since.

[nocturne dust]

I generally take toughness regen/sniper res/gunner res

but that's comfort for me mostly

[plucky flax]

Run triple resistance to not die from burster/flamer/bomber.

[carmine agate]

I still have ordo dockets.. defnitely not bcos im lazy..

[wet belfry]

I suppose surge synergizes pretty well with well the surge staff

[carmine agate]

Works only on lmb

[nocturne dust]

I have noticed a lot more flying enemies, lol

[carmine agate]

But lmb surge is fun

[summer prairie]

do you remember when Wrack and Ruin (PC) used to apply 1 stack of "agony" when you brainbursted an elite or specialist

that was strong

[nocturne dust]

if you want to break your fingers

[carmine agate]

Apm gremlin

I like ammo-less machinegun

[nocturne dust]

I would too if it was full auto like a machine gun

[carmine agate]

Oo but the 1 or 2 headshots on specials thats not bulwark/crusher is pretty sweet

[echo bobcat]

On pske I've been running toughness x2 with 1 block 1 sprint cool down x3 Stam Regen x2 been expirementing with 3rd curio and last roll for different builds.

[carmine agate]

Running over a team of ragers is fun w lmb

[strong gulch]

yes lol

[wind spruce]

On first target or secondary targets?

[echo bobcat]

See maulers feet enter top of screen.

Crumple. 😭

[carmine agate]

Lmb works surprisingly well against maulers n muties. Crushers/bulwarks tho..

Use back rmb instead

[spice veldt]

cleave damage is just the penetration stat but for unarmored/flak/infested and has nothing to do with cleaving, so it affects first and nth targets equally

[lunar hollow]

arcotash sighted

[spice veldt]

kill yourself

[lunar hollow]

insane

[carmine agate]

Cleaving on assail means it goes thru more b4 disappearing?

[nocturne dust]

Yes

[spice veldt]

yeah that's how I use that word as well

[nocturne dust]

Warp split your assail

[carmine agate]

Mm

[nocturne dust]

Do it

[carmine agate]

I have not tried assail yet

[echo bobcat]

It's goated to pretty good depending on difficulty/build.

[radiant frigate]

so, not a dump stat i'm hearing

assail is pretty goated because it leads into malefic momentum and it isn't smite

true fact

[echo bobcat]

It's not always crazy important for breakpoints so its pretty specific

[wind spruce]

Still dumpstat unless you're running a build without any other horde clear

[leaden thunder]

tbf dumpstat means like 60% now

[nocturne dust]

always did

[quartz barn]

61%*

[radiant frigate]

i want to apply sword to as many things as possible

[echo bobcat]

But you can't take the cool down per elite kill talent which I like a lot for most bubble builds.

[leaden thunder]

for an ideal weapon yeah but now should always be that

[nocturne dust]

no, 60%. If you get 61% you're not dumping hard enough.

[echo bobcat]

Choosing between it and having the best general purpose blitz sucks.

[radiant frigate]

psykinetic's aura is a strong contender too, yes

[strong gulch]

both

[nocturne dust]

Lawd I wish they would buff unempowered brainburst

Plz Fatshark, stop making EP a crutch 🙏

[radiant frigate]

i do wish it sucked a little less

but we cannot make it too spicy either

[echo bobcat]

It feels pretty mid sometimes on damn

[nocturne dust]

mid doesn't begin to describe it

[midnight hull]

So how good is surge blessing on surge staff? I heard it might be bugged.

[radiant frigate]

it's nice to pick off a running trapper when you can't or don't want to aim

[echo bobcat]

Yeah mid is not critical enough.

[leaden thunder]

only works on the primary shot

[radiant frigate]

it is the most reliable of damage sources

[leaden thunder]

so not the lightning

[radiant frigate]

and it can kill bonbon from any angle

[midnight hull]

dang, alright ty

[radiant frigate]

just doesn't do any of these things very quickly

[nocturne dust]

how about the inside angle?

[waxen jackal]

Damn the feeling when you get a great team all around is awesome

[echo bobcat]

It has its uses esp with purgatus, but the peril cost and channel time for the damage dealt always feels bad.

[nocturne dust]

Inversely, nothing I hate more than Rolling Steel where I am the carry

[waxen jackal]

Yeah, rolling steel can either be super easy or super difficult. Depending on the team

[wind spruce]

It oneshots everything besides ogryns, what more do you want?

[carmine agate]

I bring shield to rolling steel bcos of ppl falling over to loads of gunners

[echo bobcat]

I hate nothing more then a massive lag spike that leads to my death and then GGs when I'm carrying lol

[strong gulch]

The first target takes more damage than the second, but both first targets take the same damage and both second targets take the same damage regardless of my cleave damage stat rolls.

[nocturne dust]

Excuse me? Are we using the same brain burst cuz no it doesnt???

[wind spruce]

Good to know

[echo bobcat]

On damnation base BB does not do this at all

[summer prairie]

but you are only testing flak

[nocturne dust]

wrong reply

[waxen jackal]

The amount of gunners is kinda crazy sometimes

[summer prairie]

it works with unarmored/infested

[wind spruce]

Oh I read empowered

My bad

[nocturne dust]

yeh this

[nocturne dust]

smh my head

[lethal lagoon]

my head my head

[nocturne dust]

datsdajoke.jpg

[radiant frigate]

shaking my smh

[lethal lagoon]

datsdajoke.jpg

[nocturne dust]

shaking my arse for the God Emprah

[echo bobcat]

There have been wild spawns for the past few weeks I think there might be a bug to do with D/Cs making the director spazz.

[strong gulch]

Yes. That's the part that was the unknown.

[lethal lagoon]

I was partipating,not correcting

🪦

[nocturne dust]

I don't believe you because I can't take a joke, only give them.

[lethal lagoon]

🧟

👼

[radiant frigate]

ah, but i am correcting, and you were participating

[nocturne dust]

Wrong house.

👿

[lethal lagoon]

[echo bobcat]

Ur both heretics

[buoyant dust]

Anybody done some testing on the new purgatus blessings? I've seen some crazy DMG numbers on some of my scoreboards. Blaze away seems decent w nexus, haven't tried penetrating flame uet

[nocturne dust]

blaze away is BiS

goes with nexus

[radiant frigate]

apparently blaze away nexus is the go-to

[echo bobcat]

Nexus blaze away

It's goood

[nocturne dust]

penetrating flame is aight but not better than nexus

[carmine agate]

Penetrating is eh. Blaze is gud

[lethal lagoon]

I expected more from penetration.

Especially with the Gaze

[buoyant dust]

Ok that's what I've been running... Not sure how it tracks the "magazine" or whatever though

[carmine agate]

Purg is just not built for crushers

[lethal lagoon]

But what about 4 purgs?

[nocturne dust]

To think everyone was screaming about how OP it would be

[lethal lagoon]

I think that was just me

[nocturne dust]

You and Dorn

[waxen jackal]

When you get a kill with the force swords special, does that count as a warp kill?

[echo bobcat]

I thought it would be broken too but I wasn't saying it in here

[radiant frigate]

yeah but then we realized it's capped at 20%

[radiant frigate]

yes

[nocturne dust]

People yelled at me for saying it wouldn't be that OP even after that update

[upper sun]

🤔

idk what to play

surge or pick

[lethal lagoon]

Play EP smite again

[nocturne dust]

Play gunker

[upper sun]

no

NO

[nocturne dust]

dewet

[radiant frigate]

play melee psyker

[echo bobcat]

Purg works just fine on crushers though you just gotta be confident in your dslide

[buoyant dust]

That's a shame to hear that surge does not work on the secondary surge staff attack... I rarely if ever use the "primary" attack on it

[lethal lagoon]

Embrace the lightning

[carmine agate]

It just takes a tad too long

[lethal lagoon]

It calls for you

[upper sun]

no

[nocturne dust]

....I think any melee is better than purg, lol.

[carmine agate]

Lmb surge staff is a real thing now

[upper sun]

im gonna be a good boy and play ogryn

[carmine agate]

Its very stonks

[nocturne dust]

Even against packs, anything with uncanny will deal with crushers faster.

[steel flame]

Hey, quick question.
Would changing Warp Flury to Blaze Away be a good choice for the purgatas staff? Or is it better to keep flury because of high peril = more damage/crit?

[nocturne dust]

That's with penetrating flame btw

[upper sun]

@lethal lagoon maelstrom?????

wait

[echo bobcat]

It is but I can kill horde and move and then just poke the crusher

[nocturne dust]

Blaze Away is BiS yes

[upper sun]

i am not fucking playing hunting grounds with US ping

forget i said anything

[lethal lagoon]

I can go on your ping, I don't care.

[carmine agate]

Surge surge staff. Go all the crit stuff and peril resist. Spam lmb on staff like machinegun that mows down ppl

[buoyant dust]

Interesting... Might have to experiment with those new nodes on the talent tree. Care to share anymore?

[summer prairie]

by the way, took a while #psyker-class message

[lethal lagoon]

I won't smite either

[upper sun]

no

ill do yours

i need to be carried

[buoyant dust]

Ty, will give it a shot

[upper sun]

u can smite

[steel flame]

Bet, and i was thinking of keeping the second blessing as more crit for peril, is that still BiS for purgatas?

[nocturne dust]

nexus is the 2nd BiS, yes

[strong gulch]

I was having issues with silent packs. No howling and snarling from a distance. So I doubly don't recommend it.

[steel flame]

Groovy, thanks

[upper sun]

🤔

do u wanna join too?

[carmine agate]

Np. U can dm if query. Will reply when i see it

[upper sun]

thrust 3 thunderous thammer

were so fucking pubbing rn

[strong gulch]

I can't. 😭

I have cruddy chores to do.

[buoyant dust]

Will do, pretty sure I've played some games with ya. Your UN looks familiar.

[upper sun]

@lethal lagoon we have zero chance of winning btw

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/despair-suffer-suffering-sad-sad-quotes-gif-14270258133567956444

[lethal lagoon]

Sounds about right

[strong gulch]

Once day y'all can witness in person how mid I am at this game.

[nocturne dust]

I should use thammer but that would require me to stop playing Psyker

[buoyant dust]

Any other spicy new builds out there? Fully spaced melee/scrier psyker seems interesting but haven't had a chance to test it

Specced*

[nocturne dust]

Voidstrike SG is spicy, Purgatus is purgatussing harder

[wind spruce]

Everyone was so excited over nothing

As predicted

[buoyant dust]

SG void interesting... That would mean I'd have to give up my beloved creeping vent though

[nocturne dust]

shriek, ew

[echo bobcat]

I vary between being a God of throwing knives who does not go down to lagging like shit getting hit by everything and folded by all gunner packs as I rubber band in a tunnel of bullets.

[nocturne dust]

(this is a personal fact, not a personal opinion)

[strong gulch]

#psyker-class message

[echo bobcat]

Shriek is good when it gives me fricken warp charges back.

[buoyant dust]

If my calculations are correct, when peril hits 85 and you vent - you're going to see some serious shit.

[strong gulch]

I am a god!! gets stuck on a box and dies

Also same lol

[nocturne dust]

or just SG from the start and kill things harder with something other than funny blue flame

[long wharf]

But that's my secret, Doc. I'm always at 85 peril.

[nocturne dust]

Edgers, smh my head

[strong gulch]

staff lmb spam

https://tenor.com/view/balls-throwing-balls-work-gif-16897187

[nocturne dust]

Bonbon hungry. Bonbon eat snack on box.

https://tenor.com/view/baby-eat-camera-baby-eats-camera-camera-nom-nom-gif-20257243

[strong gulch]

Bonbon taxi service.

[strong gulch]

I'm actually terrified rn

[nocturne dust]

Whenever I get swallowed, I always get spat out into fire and immediately die

[echo bobcat]

I got passed to a muty and then into a net the other day.

Just doing nothing for like a whole minute and then dying.

[strong gulch]

Carried right to the DH.

You were the game's chosen.

[carmine agate]

I saw my fren got spat out of a window of the room we were fighting in, right into the welcome arms of a mixed horde

[nocturne dust]

Sometimes I wish psyker just had a grenade for such occasions

[echo bobcat]

I had a pretty funny one where I jumped off a ledge in lights out into the middle of a rager pack, might be the fastest I've ever died.

[strong gulch]

Bonbon making a donation to the nurgle blender.

[carmine agate]

u are the grenade 100% peril ezklap

[strong gulch]

Trauma staff of bust.

[ivory path]

So im seeing builds recommend the surge blessing for the surge force staff. That will only apply to the left click right? No double lightning from right click?

[carmine agate]

Yepp

[strong gulch]

Correct

[carmine agate]

Pew pew pew lmb strong suege surge staff

[nocturne dust]

With your kamikaze, you have killed checks note literally nothing

[ivory path]

been trying to practice quell cancelling but its hard to get the rythm

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-40k-psyker-explode-perils-gif-10586129510772702813

[carmine agate]

A for enthusiasm. As i run to my fren who was being attacked by a dog when im exploding (definitely on purpose)

[echo bobcat]

Looks like 1 causality to me.

[nocturne dust]

2nd hardest penance was killing an elite with a peril explosion

[patent mango]

is that a force greatsword in a trailer? lol

[echo bobcat]

Force swords are kinda big

[broken carbon]

get rid of smite, make it a molten beam and i’ll be happy

[nocturne dust]

Force it out of your mind sibling.

[ivory path]

I got that one accidentally getting my ass beat by a pack of ragers lol

[broken carbon]

(i just really want molten beam)

[patent mango]

its too late for me....

[echo bobcat]

The deimos feels loooong.

[nocturne dust]

Class DLC incoming in 3 years, trust

[broken carbon]

lmfao

[carmine agate]

Maybe the 5th class gets it

[nocturne dust]

Servitor with funny haha attack

[magic kayak]

Is it too much to ask for there to be an Ogryn psyker? If we can make female space marines anything is possible

[patent mango]

ogryn psyker would just use warp to be even stronger tbh

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/robots-gif-8913313

[echo bobcat]

Ogryns are just gestalt psykers like orcs

[magic kayak]

that would be awesome, maybe he could get the puny doggos off him by himself then

[carmine agate]

Ogryn psyker. Can use brain burst two ways

[nocturne dust]

Ogryn brain too big, too intelligent

[echo bobcat]

All of their psykers energy just makes the ogryns that other ogryns respect bigger and stronger.

[leaden thunder]

there is a case of a canon ogryn psyker, so they do exist

[magic kayak]

Ogryn Psyker has rear firing burgatus staff

[echo bobcat]

Just 1 recorded case though right?

[nocturne dust]

imagine knowing lore

[carmine agate]

Too special to be a reject ig

[nocturne dust]

sincerely, man just here for the tide of dark

[magic kayak]

imagine force shovel

[carmine agate]

Force pickaxe

[waxen jackal]

Force pickaxe would so badass

[magic kayak]

Or force slab shield, projectiles richochet back at enemies...

[carmine agate]

Force rock

[waxen jackal]

Force rock would be even cooler

[magic kayak]

I think they call that Meteor

[nocturne dust]

Can we get obscurus to be cool first

[magic kayak]

Plot twist. Meteor from FF7 was actually ogryn psyker's rock

[waxen jackal]

Scriers with voidblast is fun af

[upper sun]

okie

@lethal lagoon that was on both of us tbh

[lethal lagoon]

WDYM

[upper sun]

u for DYING

[lethal lagoon]

I CANT DODGE BACKSHOTS ON EU PING

[upper sun]

me for not popping medicae sooner

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah fair

I really shouldn't have died though

[upper sun]

u said you didnt care about ping

but tbh

[lethal lagoon]

[upper sun]

i didnt expect us to make it that far

[lethal lagoon]

I was too relaxed

I normally don't.

[upper sun]

the zealot was not zealoting

lets just blame him

[waxen jackal]

Besides gunner/sniper damage what are other perks for curios? Toughness and health? Or toughness Regen?

[lethal lagoon]

Also, I had the most boss damage, so the zealots were really not zealoting

[upper sun]

toughness regen is meh

[upper sun]

post board

[waxen jackal]

Okay so gunner damage, health, and toughness sounds good?

For perks

[upper sun]

ye

[upper sun]

combat ability also nice

[wind spruce]

Toughness regen is underrated imo

[lethal lagoon]

Is coherency toughness regen hit by ER?

Cause if it's not, it's basically meta now then

[upper sun]

i was tonking

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah

[wind spruce]

Also pygex recommends it in his new video and he's right about everything, right?

[lethal lagoon]

Also surge does this weird thing when I lag, it like auto anim cancels

It's pretty fire

[upper sun]

he liked boltpistol before changes

[lethal lagoon]

You can queue for whatever

I won't go full Atlas and get covered in backshots this time

[upper sun]

:eh"

[lethal lagoon]

[upper sun]

i think i wanna go to sleep early

[lethal lagoon]

Euro needs his baby bottle to sleepy weepy

[sacred crane]

it has been finished

[lethal lagoon]

[upper sun]

yes

[lethal lagoon]

[upper sun]

i have PAPERwork to do tomorrow

and PAPER to print

and PAPER to fill out

[lethal lagoon]

Breh, I went to a lawyer so I wouldn't have to do paperwork, and they basically just told me what to do instead of doing it, and like smh, I hate doing adult things.

[upper sun]

ikr kill me now

[waxen jackal]

Don't do adult things, just play video games

[lethal lagoon]

They were a family friend, so I get they were trying to save me money(probably), but like... please just do it thanks so much.

[carmine agate]

Which psyker staff skin do you guys prefer? The eye or the skull one up now

[upper sun]

the upside down staff

idk thats what i got just this rotation

i vowed to never buy slop until crafting was fixed so (now)

[lethal lagoon]

How you likin it.

[carmine agate]

Hmmm tempted

[split lance]

Don’t listen to him @upper sun he’s lying

[upper sun]

hungary good

[vast knoll]

New assail seems pretty busted, which is a shame because its not very fun imo

[lethal lagoon]

Do you get paid in a foriegn currency?

[leaden thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/bulgaria-bulgarian-anime-gif-26003171

[lethal lagoon]

Cause that would make it pretty great

[upper sun]

uhhhhh im doing a masters

[carmine agate]

Assail build?

[lethal lagoon]

Ah, little school boy

[upper sun]

ye

[vast knoll]

one of the last maelstrom games I was in some guy did 1m damage just mashing his face into the assail button

[upper sun]

job next smester lets fuckin hope

im bored as shit

[carmine agate]

O.o what setup?

[lethal lagoon]

That's true, I can't avoid what I don't want to dodge

[split lance]

👀

[lethal lagoon]

[vast knoll]

assail, vent, disrupt... dueling sword + combat shotgun, but the shotgun mostly seemed like a panic button

[lethal lagoon]

Assail + vent isn't buffed...

I think he was just good lmao

[split lance]

@lethal lagoon what I’m hearing is. 4 assail psykers

[vast knoll]

assail benifits from the new cleave talent

[lethal lagoon]

Oh yeah I forgots about that

But, it's not OP without SG

[split lance]

Obviously with super gay

[lethal lagoon]

Cause SG you can spam assail at 100% peril for all the bonuses

You need the gays

They are crucial

[leaden thunder]

for some reason I didn't even register that the cleave talent didn't specify melee

[lethal lagoon]

Wait shit

Does that work with the shotgun too

[leaden thunder]

works with everything if it doesn't specify

[lethal lagoon]

Time to set up a shotgun build

[latent mauve]

my crowning achivement

kicked for cheating

[vast knoll]

seemed pretty effective, I was fiddling with a voidstrike build, and did about 600k so 400k over felt wild, since I was BLASTIN'

[brazen rampart]

Mix in true aim and manstopper...

[waxen jackal]

Wait you can spam assail while at 100 with scriers? Without dying?

[lethal lagoon]

Yes

Warp unbound

[strong gulch]

Just by looking at the rates in the meat grinder with bots, coherency toughness regen looks like it's the same with or without ER.

[lethal lagoon]

It's bugged For Surge Staff though

[leaden thunder]

manstopper kinda makes the cleave boost irrelevant right?

[vast knoll]

100 doesn't pop you during SG if you havent the follow up talent

[lethal lagoon]

You get 10 seconds of god-mode basically

[carmine agate]

Hmm shotgun w assail

[brazen rampart]

Cleave everything though...

[leaden thunder]

manstopper does already iirc

[lethal lagoon]

What's the best shotgun atm

[waxen jackal]

Thanks for the tip. I'm gonna have to use that

[lethal lagoon]

It's hilarious on EP smite too

[vast knoll]

uhhh fug I used to know this

[lethal lagoon]

You can get an infinite chain going basically

[mossy oyster]

I stack manstopper and 100% cleave talent

[waxen jackal]

Sure staff if the electric one right?

[mossy oyster]

also 100% cleave talent applies to everything

[lethal lagoon]

Yes

[mossy oyster]

including assail/melee

[lethal lagoon]

[mossy oyster]

so

[lethal lagoon]

These stupid fucking name changes

[waxen jackal]

I'm a new psyker player so I get confused lol

[lethal lagoon]

I'd imagine

[carmine agate]

Zap staff

[vast knoll]

I spent 20 min explaining which staff to use to a stoned friend last night

[lethal lagoon]

They had such good names, I basically refuse to use the new ones

Now it's like this guy stoned friend named the staves

^

[burnt valley]

anyone else feel like build options just got more limited

[carmine agate]

Purgatus..

[waxen jackal]

What was voidstrikes old name?

[lethal lagoon]

voidstrike

[waxen jackal]

Badass

[burnt valley]

trauma

[carmine agate]

Voidblast was trauma

[lethal lagoon]

Voidstrike -> Voidstrike
Trauma -> Voidblast
Purgatorous -> Inferno
Surge -> ThisNameIsASin

[waxen jackal]

Ohh that makes so much more sense now

Purgatorous is probably the coolest name in the game

And they took it from us

[lethal lagoon]

Don't copy my spelling lmao

But yes

[carmine agate]

Purgatus

Yea i miss it..

I liked trauma too. Its like the explosions giving ppl blunt force trauma vibes

[vast knoll]

yeah my friend asked about it yesterday and was like "whats that one staff called?" and I was like.. uh Purgatation or w/e and he was like "I don't see it"

I thought he was an idiot till I remembered the name change

[late sapphire]

yes

it's peak

[waxen jackal]

Is a weapon with 74% max on everything okay to use? At least until I find one with 80s and 60

[late sapphire]

don't waste a point on +1 assail cleave now

[vast knoll]

its fine, especially now

[late sapphire]

you'll live

[lethal lagoon]

no.

It's so easy to get a perfect weapon now, it should cost at most 100k.

[carmine agate]

Do ya have a sample build?

[late sapphire]

literally just take the point out of ethereal shards and put it anywhere else

if you take warp splitting

[vast knoll]

I mean if you don't have masteries its fine, im def using some bootycheeks old weapons just for t4 perks on random alt builts

[lethal lagoon]

I meant for getting a weapon with perfect stats

If you have some old weapons, they give bonus mastery when sacrificed to the same category

[waxen jackal]

Ive been looking for one with the right dump stat and 80s on the rest. But haven't found one. I haven't been playing a ton lately tho

[burnt valley]

anyone found a use for charged strike on smite at all?

or its it just meme af

[lethal lagoon]

I don't see the point, cause if you are speccing into smite, melee is like the last thing you need.

I guess if you are doing a melee build and want pysch aura, it's kinda worth?

But I dunno

[radiant frigate]

flechette manstopper sg shotgun time

[leaden thunder]

it feels cool

[burnt valley]

Just cant help but feel like ur struggling to reach bottom of trees now

[radiant frigate]

if only it was on all hits

[waxen jackal]

And either quell speed or warp resistance for the dump right?

[radiant frigate]

instead of just heavies

[lethal lagoon]

60 warp resist is generally ideal for every warp weapon atm, except voidstrike, you want 60% blast radius.

just to be clear voidstrike wants 60 blast, not voidblast.

[late sapphire]

(voidblast wants 60 strike)

hence the naming

[waxen jackal]

Yeah I'm using voidstrike. So I'm looking for 60% black radius. Damn I've seen some of those

[weary crane]

can anyone explain how I died?

[lethal lagoon]

yeah, blast radius can actually be bad on voidstrike.

So you want that as the dump for sure.

[waxen jackal]

Good to know

[upper sun]

i cant notice the diff between 60 and 80 warp resist on voidstrike

[lethal lagoon]

You had no wounds?

[plucky flax]

Yeah but if you have 80% warp resist that's also way too high for voidstrike.

[brazen rampart]

No KD?

[vast knoll]

no toughness, standing in poop, boss melee into low HP?

[burnt valley]

1 would assume hit went through block like most orgryn attacks do

[brazen rampart]

You aint blocking shit without KD on a knife.

[weary crane]

I have kd

[lethal lagoon]

even if he had KD, I think the plague ogryn overhead is treated like other overheads

you can't block it

[upper sun]

no deimos with stamina block

[magic kayak]

should have parried it

[weary crane]

It did it again

It didnt increase peril

[late sapphire]

2 stam kd

[weary crane]

Just ignored the block

[magic kayak]

It you don't use devil's claw you aint playing

[lethal lagoon]

So yeah, it's the overhead

[leaden thunder]

some attacks do that

[burnt valley]

no down left bud

[magic kayak]

unblockable, like crusher but less damage, more stagger

[late sapphire]

I don't think you can afford an ogryn overhead block on 2 stam kd

[leaden thunder]

just like how some attacks can counter dodging or at least used to

[weary crane]

It didnt increase my peril

[late sapphire]

Even if it was blockable

[lethal lagoon]

Go check if a crusher overhead in the pysch increases your peril

[magic kayak]

I run +3 stam on all pysker builds as a prerequisite

[lethal lagoon]

You seem stuck on that lmao

[upper sun]

i dont think you can block it even with +5 stamina KD and deflector

[lethal lagoon]

That's my point.

[leaden thunder]

ragers could hit you through dodge partially (idk if they have changed that or not)

[magic kayak]

yeah you can't because crusher overhead is unblockable

[burnt valley]

all i remember is that ogryn attacks go through blocks often and do bleed through dmg wouldnt surprise me if the overhead does the same now tbh

[leaden thunder]

overheads hit through block, etc

[waxen jackal]

And for force sword, warp resistance as dump?

[lethal lagoon]

yes

[burnt valley]

ogryn shield request ur location 🙂

[magic kayak]

ok that's not a block that's a slab

[lethal lagoon]

You are the only person on the planet who can get 50% of their damage from shriek, so hush.

[weary crane]

look

this is how it works

[leaden thunder]

I think unless you are bracing it'd still go through it

not sure tho

normally don't let them hit me when I shieldgryn

[plucky flax]

People be holding onto ability to save it for next round.

[lethal lagoon]

Those were two different attacks?

[burnt valley]

u had full toughness so no bleed through

[burnt valley]

that too

[lethal lagoon]

Neither of those was the overhead lmao

[magic kayak]

I use shriek even against a lonely mob sometimes if I have 6 ws stacks

[patent mango]

i think plague ogryn attacks go through block

[weary crane]

it does

[patent mango]

or at least a percentage

[burnt valley]

any attack from a ogryn boss its going to do health dmg when ur not at full toughness its nothing new

[weary crane]

it overhead into my back

[magic kayak]

how do I clean up these scoreboards? can't tell what categories go to what on the mod options

[weary crane]

it didnt block anything

[burnt valley]

^ if u know u know

So do void strike builds no longer go for true aim now or

[restive ice]

the description on the ovenproof scoreboard plugin lists the contents of each category

[magic kayak]

ah I didn't notice that, thanks

[mossy oyster]

KD abusers when an unblockable overhead approaches them

https://tenor.com/view/worried-scared-oh-no-stop-it-fearful-gif-12534009

[jovial juniper]

KD dclaw enjoyers

[vast knoll]

Im just trying to get voidstrike to feel a bit better, SG is so tempting, but vent feels really good not only as a back off tool, but just clearing for additional casting.

I think it may be too slow in its effectiveness however, its massive burst damage but with a good team stuff dies so quickly

[plucky flax]

[magic kayak]

I find VS is amazing in all modes of play

SG is super fun though especially with heavy sword

[plucky flax]

Use assail to compliment void

[burnt valley]

I honestly cant even decide what to take period for voidstrike now tbh

[vast knoll]

I was still doing good damage but in the Maelstrom games I finished today I felt like it wasn't super effective because bosses were melting pretty much instantly ect

[plucky flax]

Void is really weak against monsters

[magic kayak]

venting shriek is perfect for protecting your flank also

yeah voidstrike isn't ever going to do much against monsters, I feel like you use your melee or bb for monsters

[vast knoll]

yeah just an example of damage output

[plucky flax]

You ignore and hope team will deal with it

[weary crane]

Yeah I love parry, shame dclaw has negative penetration

[magic kayak]

if you get a fully charged headshot on ogryn though he can stagger

at least it used to

[radiant frigate]

plogryn left hand slam is unblockable

[weary crane]

Is that intended?

[magic kayak]

you used to be able to stun lock plague ogryn with fully charged void to the dome

[radiant frigate]

Yes

same for plogryn stomp

or crusher overheads

[spice veldt]

multiple attacks in this game are designated to be unblockable

[vast knoll]

get like 1 half charged blast into a carapace / flak pack and assail already killed everything XD

[weary crane]

Well I get stomp because that's the floor

[magic kayak]

yeah but you can still dclaw parry them 😄

[radiant frigate]

yeah but then youo're using dclaw

[weary crane]

Put parry on rashad and ill use it

[magic kayak]

lol I've seen some amazing plays with dclaw

[weary crane]

https://youtube.com/shorts/VeOgccvK6DQ?si=v05OBnbOOSj7UjXW

This is me parrying an ogyrn

[magic kayak]

https://youtu.be/-2D_saYHQ88?si=yJB9P5OGgjehuyyL

auric maelstrom clutch against like 6 monsters

to be fair, it's zealot but still

[plucky flax]

I've seen this guys stuff he's really good but knife would have made it so much easier

I am too noob to play dc well

[magic kayak]

yeah he is really good for sure. I was also wondering if knife wouldn't just be better

he seems to run DC pretty consistently in his builds, something to be said about mastering your tools

[burnt valley]

can smite crit?

[lethal lagoon]

Nein

[burnt valley]

assumed as much

[radiant frigate]

"wow the parry is doing really good work here" but then i am just left thinking that another weapon choice could have prevented this situation

[plucky flax]

He plays dc like I play surge. Using bad weapon and win.

[radiant frigate]

i only play good weapons 😭

[plucky flax]

According to this chat better stick with voidstrike only.

[radiant frigate]

according to me, both good

[plucky flax]

Oh and inferno I guess.

Went from really mid to strong now with blaze away.

Op blessing

[radiant frigate]

this does not make me like it however

[leaden thunder]

I still remember when psyker chat gaslit themselves into only using the antax's push attack(this was a very long time ago)

[lunar hollow]

antax push attack meta was so based

[radiant frigate]

i may only play good weapons but that does not mean i play every weapon that is considered good

then again i also play agri iag and laspistol, which i do not really see people talking about

[leaden thunder]

I remember crab, me and a couple others having to explain why it wasn't a good idea and it was horrible

[radiant frigate]

i wasn't around at the time

[leaden thunder]

it was like pre-class rework

[radiant frigate]

i played a bit at release, leveled every class to 30 and then decided "rat game better"

[plucky flax]

Mk2 Las pistol is really good

[lunar hollow]

it was i think right after launch

[radiant frigate]

then i popped in for a bit after rework and decided "rat game still better"

[lunar hollow]

it didn't last v long

[leaden thunder]

yep

[lunar hollow]

they should bring back old infinite cleave bm

[radiant frigate]

then rat game deteriorated

[leaden thunder]

it kinda still does

[radiant frigate]

and now i'm here

[leaden thunder]

just have to actually hit head all the time

it even fucking ignores cleave damage caps

[lunar hollow]

it's still capped at 4 targets

[radiant frigate]

member when a grey power sword was the most powerful melee weapon you could imagine

[lunar hollow]

u have to take a lame blessing like perfect strike or sunder to ignore armor stop

[lunar hollow]

i got cycler like a week or two before the psword nerf that killed all attempts at balancing the game for a year

[plucky flax]

Old power cycle letting you do like 5 or 6 power strikes

Darcy malded hard when it was nerfed to 3

[lunar hollow]

darcy wanted a tier 5 blessing slot exclusively for an upgraded power cycler

those takes were fuckin incredible im so sad she got nuked

[leaden thunder]

I was sure most of darcy's takes where sarcastic

[radiant frigate]

i am team "less impactful blessings" but i guess it is fine now that you can actually choose what to get

[leaden thunder]

i'll take less impact blessings as well

[strong gulch]

In the clip where you died, you didn't have toughness for the overhead. So you took health damage. You were grey with low health and died. You need full toughness to not take health damage by the overhead. Blocking and KD don't affect that. Testing in the meat grinder with 100% toughness and KD while trying to block an plague ogryn overhead does increase my peril. Same if I have low toughness but have enough health to eat the hit. The overhead is a toughness or health check. This is all specific to this overhead tho; not the other attacks that can actually be blocked.

[lunar hollow]

darcy very often did the thing where you pretend everything is ironic to disguise a terrible opinion

[radiant frigate]

i do not know this darcy person

therefore darcy is not real

[wispy wagon]

Can trauma oneshot common specials now?

[plucky flax]

Darcy was #1 vet abuser

When volley fire gave like 50% toughness damage reduction

[late sapphire]

voidstrike sg dd fucks so hard

[plucky flax]

And instant reload bolter that was my fav. They need to bring back that talent

[late sapphire]

i moved true aim stacks and sg into the center of my screen for maximum sweat

[lunar hollow]

75%

[leaden thunder]

and was almost permanent

[radiant frigate]

ah, yes

[leaden thunder]

I remember just fucking face tanking like 10ish gunners

[radiant frigate]

when volley fire was voc

or hey, remember camouflage?

[lunar hollow]

the tooltip said "ranged toughness DR" for the longest time (it was just regular toughness dr) and then one patch they decided to fix the tooltip

[radiant frigate]

stand still to turn fucking invisible

[lunar hollow]

instead of nerfing unwavering focus

[radiant frigate]

wHAT

[late sapphire]

it was so good

[radiant frigate]

???

[late sapphire]

used to match with 3 camo vets

greatest experience

infinite mobs for the ogryn meat grinder

[leaden thunder]

there was no specific types of toughness dr at the time

[wispy wagon]

my brain short circuits reading this

[radiant frigate]

this game has been through some things

[wispy wagon]

so I gain 30% less toughness?

[plucky flax]

Yes

[radiant frigate]

generate less peril, gain less toughness

max toughness stays the same

[lunar hollow]

fatshark tooltips are always leagues ahead in terms of mechanical complexity compared to what the actual mechanic is

it's funny

[waxen jackal]

So I was trying the warp unbound thing and it was awesome. Will you always drop below 100 When SG is over? Even if you're using a staff? Or do you need to be careful

[leaden thunder]

or leagues behind

[radiant frigate]

the rate at which you refill it is reduced

[wispy wagon]

How am I gaining toughness to begin with? Just in general from my talents/items?

[leaden thunder]

and there is no inbetween

[plucky flax]

It's good talent in weapon that generates lots of peril like electro formerly surge

[lunar hollow]

true

[radiant frigate]

from coherency and from talents

[wispy wagon]

I see

thx

[late sapphire]

and 5% on melee kill!

[radiant frigate]

potentially from gear